#2960 RHOM S7E9 Part 1: Preppy Le Pieu

Summary

Watch What Crappens: Episode #2960 – RHOM S7E9 Part 1: Preppy Le Pieu

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: August 7, 2025
Podcast: Wondery
Episode Description: In this episode, Ben and Ronnie dive deep into the latest happenings in "The Real Housewives of Miami" Season 7, Episode 9, titled "Preppy Le Pieu." They dissect the drama, financial upheavals, and lavish lifestyles portrayed on the show, all while delivering their signature blend of humor and sharp commentary.

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1. Introduction and Initial Discussion

Timestamp: [03:23] – [04:09]

Ben and Ronnie kick off the episode with their usual camaraderie, briefly touching on personal updates before diving into the main topic. Ben jokes about his recent eyelid surgery, setting a lighthearted tone for the episode.

Ben Mandelker:
"I'm sick of wearing the glasses." [03:49]

Ronnie Karam:
"Look at those eyelids." [03:45]

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2. Stephanie Branj’s Financial Turmoil

Timestamp: [04:55] – [07:35]

The hosts shift focus to Stephanie Branj from "The Real Housewives of Miami," discussing her recent financial issues.

Ben Mandelker:
"I found Stephanie Shoji and her husband Massoud were forced to sell their 12,000 square foot home after failing to repay an $8 million mortgage loan on time." [06:31]

Ben highlights the severity of Stephanie and Massoud's financial predicament, emphasizing the rapid foreclosure process.

Ronnie Karam:
"We can sense financial issues a mile away when someone comes in looking like a minion in Chanel." [07:56]

Ronnie comments on the portrayal of wealth in the show, noting how extravagant displays often mask underlying financial struggles.

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3. The Dog Drama: Basquiat’s Antics

Timestamp: [07:35] – [20:44]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to exploring Adriana’s dog, Basquiat, whose behavior becomes a focal point of humor and critique.

Ben Mandelker:
"She's taking her dog to a place for dogs to mate. What an odd business." [10:21]

Ben humorously critiques the scene where Adriana brings her dog to a "doge" facility, mistaking it for a dog grooming place, only to discover it's a breeding center.

Ronnie Karam:
"I'm still trying to look up the dog's name. It's driving me absolutely bonkers." [15:39]

Ronnie expresses frustration over not being able to remember or find Basquiat’s name, adding to the comedic element of their discussion.

Ben Mandelker:
"Basquiat’s favorite type are human legs. And we see a montage of Basquiat humping so many legs. It is so funny because it's this super floofy dog humping everyone’s legs." [10:52]

The hosts find the dog's overly affectionate and inappropriate behavior both hilarious and a bit absurd, using it as a metaphor for the excesses depicted in the show.

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4. Marisol and Julia’s Friendship Struggles

Timestamp: [25:16] – [38:58]

Ben and Ronnie delve into the turbulent friendship between Marisol and Julia, highlighting key moments and conflicts.

Ben Mandelker:
"They're on opposite planets. What's happened with you? She's offended." [25:16]

Ben explains the growing rift between Marisol and Julia, attributing it to misunderstandings and lack of communication.

Ronnie Karam:
"I think everybody needs some therapy in this group." [30:17]

Ronnie suggests that the constant drama among the cast members might benefit from professional intervention, hinting at deeper emotional issues driving the conflicts.

Ben Mandelker:
"This is why we want to organize a trip to get away from Todd." [33:13]

The idea of a getaway trip to Seville emerges as a potential solution for easing tensions, though it’s met with skepticism regarding its effectiveness.

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5. Character Dynamics and Upcoming Events

Timestamp: [38:58] – [57:04]

The discussion shifts to the interactions between other cast members, including Massoud and Stephanie’s awkward meetings with Martina and the general social dynamics at play.

Ronnie Karam:
"Massoud is trying so hard to look young, but it doesn't work." [38:58]

Ronnie critiques Massoud’s attempts to appear youthful, highlighting the age-related insecurities and societal pressures faced by the cast.

Ben Mandelker:
"Martina isn’t even performatively humble at all. It’s so funny because she’s accomplished a lot. There’s no rule she has to be humble." [39:45]

Ben points out Martina’s genuine demeanor, contrasting her with other cast members’ sometimes superficial behaviors.

Ronnie Karam:
"Martina is such a tennis diva. She won’t deal with anyone below a certain level." [46:17]

The hosts analyze Martina’s competitive nature and how it affects her relationships within the group, particularly her interactions with younger or less accomplished members.

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6. Thematic Analysis: Wealth, Friendship, and Drama

Timestamp: [07:35] – [57:04]

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie weave themes of wealth disparity, the fragility of friendships, and the constant undercurrent of drama that fuels "The Real Housewives" series.

Ronnie Karam:
"People wind up hiding food from their smart dogs. That’s not an asset to me." [13:50]

Using the metaphor of overcomplicated pet ownership, Ronnie draws parallels to the complicated relationships and hidden issues among the housewives.

Ben Mandelker:
"I don’t want my animals to be on the dumb side. I want them to be low energy." [14:05]

Ben extends the metaphor, suggesting a preference for simplicity and low drama, contrasting sharply with the show's portrayal of high-octane interactions.

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7. Conclusion and Teasers for Part 2

Timestamp: [58:13] – [58:29]

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie tease the continuation of their discussion in Part 2, encouraging listeners to stay tuned for more insights and laughs.

Ben Mandelker:
"Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers." [58:13]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ben Mandelker:
  "I found Stephanie Shoji and her husband Massoud were forced to sell their 12,000 square foot home after failing to repay an $8 million mortgage loan on time." [06:31]

• Ronnie Karam:
  "We can sense financial issues a mile away when someone comes in looking like a minion in Chanel." [07:56]

• Ben Mandelker:
  "Basquiat’s favorite type are human legs. And we see a montage of Basquiat humping so many legs. It is so funny because it's this super floofy dog humping everyone’s legs." [10:52]

• Ronnie Karam:
  "I think everybody needs some therapy in this group." [30:17]

• Ben Mandelker:
  "Martina isn’t even performatively humble at all. It’s so funny because she’s accomplished a lot. There’s no rule she has to be humble." [39:45]

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Final Thoughts

In Episode #2960 of "Watch What Crappens," Ben and Ronnie offer a comprehensive and humorous analysis of the latest "Real Housewives of Miami" episode. Through their sharp observations and witty banter, they uncover the intricate web of relationships, financial strains, and personal dramas that make the show a captivating spectacle. Listeners are left eagerly anticipating Part 2, where the duo promises to delve even deeper into the unfolding drama.

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, Ronnie.

[Ronnie Karam]

Look at those eyelids.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, everybody. I've still got one wonky eye, but you know what? Who cares?

[Ronnie Karam]

It's.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's less wonky than it has been. So it's like bring it out today. Bring it out. I'm sick of wearing the glasses.

[Ronnie Karam]

It looks great. I mean, I'm very happy. You are no longer a star of the James Bond film Sty. Another day Tomorrow, Never Sties.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm back to Pussy Galore.

[Ronnie Karam]

Golden Sty. No, your sty is gone. And your recovery has been so rapid. Now, finally, I feel like you're, you're there. You're there. You're, you're, you're Your eyelids. Your fresh new eyelids can finally be spectacular.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're close. But you know what? It's been a month in glasses. Like, that's crazy. I didn't know it was going to be all that. But anyway, that's enough eyelid talk, everybody. Welcome to Watch what Crabbins. It's a very special day today because Stephanie brags about her plane a lot. You know what we should do? You know what I'm going to start doing? While you do the intro, I'm going to start Googling Stephanie's ass. Okay, Stephanie show. Ja. Okay, Ben, go ahead. I'm writing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

I found Stephanie Shoji and her husband Massoud were forced to sell their 12,000 square foot home Morris style after failing to repay an $8 million mortgage loan on time. They didn't pay the entirety of the 8 million. They borrowed, and the bank filed a foreclosure on January 6th. What a date. God, what a date. That's an asshole date to lose Steph. January 6th. And they filed foreclosure and they sold it on the 17th. And yeah, that's pretty much it. I just wanted to look up that because I'd heard some. There's all these rumblings about Stephanie and her kind of lying ways. So I haven't gone too far into that because I'm waiting for it to come out on the show. You know, sometimes I spoil myself too much by reading too much gossip and then it happens on the show and I'm like, whatever, that's no big deal. They lost everything. We saw it coming. I want to see it coming. I want to see it happen on the show. So, you know, I'm trying to, like, avoid spoilers, but she bragged about her plane so much, I had to look it up. So there you go.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, at this point, we are seasoned Real Housewives viewers. We can sense financial issues a mile away when someone comes in looking like a minion in Chanel. You know, there are some mortgage issues there are lawsuits, there are debts, there are bankruptcies hiding behind those pearl necklaces.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And, you know, it's. It's also got us attuned to feeling rich when we're not. Because, like, you get so snotty watching housewives about silly things you have no business doing being snotty about. Like, Stephanie whips out. Her first scene is pulling out. She's, like, with an assistant or something, and she pulls out a Lady Dior purse, And it says, 50, $900. And I was like, oh, that is so sad, because my other friend has one that's $95,000.

[Ronnie Karam]

I thought the same thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm embarrassed for you. Meanwhile, I have a hole in my big toe on my sock. I was literally. I had my foot up on the ottoman, and I was like, you're judging this woman while your big toe is coming out of your sock, sir?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I had the exact same reaction. I basically am a victim to bag inflation because of this network. Because last week, Nicole pulled out that $95,000 Hermes bag, I think, and we're like, oh, my God, that's crazy. $95,000 for a bag. But now I'm like, $5,900 for a bag. What is it? Is that like. Did you get it at cvs? I've totally become a snob about something I never would buy, like, any time. Yeah, exactly.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she does that, and then Julia and Marisol meet up at a restaurant, and Julia almost knocks something over while she's hugging her, and she's like, oh, look what I did. Water. Water. Me and water. You know, look at that. I almost knocked over the water again. Me and my hilarious water.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's what I do. And then Adriana, she arrives at a dog facility, and it's called dog, which, as we all know, stands for Department of Government. And then it was actually so efficient, they actually got rid of the E. But no, it's actually in this case. Yeah. It would be funny if she showed up at doge. She's like, I am here to work. I'm here to fire people. But it's actually.

[Ben Mandelker]

There are too many people in the Democratic Organization of Gardeners. I'm gonna get rid of it.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm here to fire npr. Okay, but no, but she's actually at a place, I guess, where dogs can mate. And so this was one of the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Funniest scenes I've ever seen on the house.

[Ronnie Karam]

I loved it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I died laughing because I. I thought, oh, she's going to a dog groomer. And no, it was not it was a whorehouse for dogs. So she's telling her dog, are you lucky for your day? Are you ready for your date? You're gonna get lucky today. So she tells us. I've scoped all the parks in Miami. We've been looking high and low. We can't find a bitch. I'm gonna find the right bitch for you. Don't you worry. Because here I am. I find a place that birds brings dogs together to have one trip in paradise before he gets clip, clip. He's like, no, no. Clip, clip. So he's gonna get it out because her dog is a sex addiction. Yes, that dog has trouble.

[Ronnie Karam]

That dog loves sex. What's the name of the dog again? Why can't I remember it?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. I don't really pay attention to little, fluffy, snotty dogs like that little.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's because it is.

[Ben Mandelker]

I won't learn their name.

[Ronnie Karam]

French poodle, Right? It's a white French poodle. Correct.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a floofy.

[Ronnie Karam]

It looks like.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. It's like a. Is our French pooples. Aren't French poodles bigger?

[Ronnie Karam]

Maybe a toy. A toy poodle. A French toy poodle.

[Ben Mandelker]

French toy.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's a toy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Would it be a French toy poodle or a toy French poodle? Sammy?

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know, but.

[Ben Mandelker]

It knows all the scripts for all the play scripts for everything.

[Ronnie Karam]

You have to, like, go through that poodle and get the rights before you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Quote on Gary Glen Ross.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's very withholding about rights if you want to put on a production at your school. So the poodle is there. She brought the poodle on to watch what happens live. And I didn't watch the episode, but I watched clips. And what I liked was that the poodle was just kind of like, freely roaming around that set. And I, you know, famously really dislike poodles. I find that they are very hyperactive in a way that does not work with what I like in my personal space. So I generally dislike all poodles, and I dislike all poodle mixes, no matter how cute they are. There's like, one or two exceptions that I will be okay with. But, like, generally speaking, when I see poodle, I get. Not only do I not like poodles, I think I even like poodles even less, because inevitably, the poodle owners always say, and I know some of you in our sweet audience are saying this right now, but they're so smart. And as I always say, I'm not commissioning this poodle to build me a wing on my house. I'm not looking for this poodle to develop a new vaccine. I don't need a dog to be smart.

[Ben Mandelker]

People do dogs. It's weird because I had a Jack Russell before Bueller. I had a Jack Russell named Xena for 16 years. Loved this dog. That was my first, like, dog to have as an adult. And this dog was really smart. You know, she was a great dog. But everywhere we went, people were like, oh, a Jack Russell. And then they would start testing her. They would be like, oh, my God, do this, do that, sit down, roll over. You know what? What can your dog do? And I was like, why does the dog have to do anything? It poops outside. That's really all I require. Like, honestly, all I require is potty training and giving me love. That's all I need from a dog. But these people are like, does your dog know calculate calculus? Because that is a Jack Russell and they are very, very smart. And now I have Bueller and he's just like, you know, a half pit bull, half Chihuahua. He looks all Frankensteined. He's all weir alone expect from Bueller. And it is like a vacation going around. People, they're like, well, the dog didn't take my wallet. So you've got a good dog, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I feel like all my friends who have quote unquote smart dogs, what they wind up doing is having to hide food from the dogs the entire, entire time. It's about latching cabinets closed. I'm like, that's not an asset to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't want.

[Ronnie Karam]

I want my animals to be on the dumb side.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I want them to be low energy.

[Ben Mandelker]

What are you doing on my bank of America account? Get the hell out of there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes. So that's my preamble to say that usually when I see a poodle, I'm just like. But this poodle was cracking me up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, honestly, in general, it's just like the floofy dogs that people are like, oh, my God, it's so cute. It's like over groomed. It has bows in the hair. I don't like that stuff.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And that's what. Well, that's what I'm saying is that, like, this dog is like this. And so I'm like, ugh, this dog. But I was cracking up at this dog because it is so foofy. But ultimately you are reminded that it is. At the end of the day, despite all its bows and little cute sweaters and, like, grooming, it's still a Dog, and it is ready to fuck.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just the idea. I mean, who even thinks of that? Like, I'm getting my dog Snip, so he's not going to get laid properly, so I'm going to take him. And then someone else is like, I'm taking my dog. I'm going to take my female dog there to get fucked by some stranger. What an odd business. I mean, I get it for breeding if you want to, like, breed or whatever. No offense, straight people, but, you know, a dog.

[Ronnie Karam]

A dog. Yeah, but, you know, people. You know, people love doing this stuff. I'm still trying to look up the dog's name. I. For the life of me, I can't figure it out. I find all sorts of photos of Adriana's dog, but it is. It is just. I cannot find the name of it. It's driving me absolutely bonkers. Now who's the dumb dog? Me.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the perfect person to join for this scene is Lisa. I don't know why, it just makes sense for Lisa because she always had those parties with Lenny in Miami, like, especially the Halloween parties. I think that's where he met Katrina or whatever the lady he ran off with. So that was kind of like a key party, right? It's like a bunch of Instagram and onlyfans models and stuff would go and just like, fuck rich guys at parties, from what we heard. And so it's funny that Adriana brings Lisa. She's like, nah, she's a swinger. She gets it. She gets it. You know, this is where we. We. We brought Lenny before he left. Lisa.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lenny had his many rodeos, final rodeos here. The dog's name is Basquiat. Duh. Of course his name is Bas.

[Ben Mandelker]

Of course. Of course that dog is too groomed to be named Basquiat. Basquiat was just messy, you know, it was all about mess. You can't just have this floofy little dog with BO hair.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Like, if anything, he needs to have, like, a little crown. Isn't that, like Basquiat's thing? Like, the little. The little. As evidenced by me sticking my fingers on my head as if that shows. Looks like a crown, but I basically made a. I made myself look like a little buffalo. So they. They go. So Basquiat and Basquiat's last lady go to this back area to have. Have a nice moment. And, you know, it's Basquiat and, honey, these. This is the. These are the lovebirds. And Adriana's making, like, conversation with the mom and everything. And Then we see a montage. Adriana says that Basquiat's favorite type are human legs. And we see a montage of Basquiat humping so many legs. And again, it is so funny because it's this like. It's this quaffed, groomed, like super like foofy dog be like on everyone's legs. And it keeps going. It's great. I was. It was hilarious.

[Ben Mandelker]

And. And Adrana is like, I hope he get catfished.

[Ronnie Karam]

I missed that. I missed funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then the mom's there of Honey, who is the lady that Basquiat is banging. And so they're making small talk like, how old is Bosquia? It's three. And Honey is one. I'm like, honey is one what? What kind of parenting are we doing in this country when you're taking your one year old? I mean, I know that, that that's longer in dog year, but even dog years are seven years. What are we doing here, people?

[Ronnie Karam]

What is the stand? What is the standard time? Standard? What is the standard time that people normally neuter or neuter their dogs? Is it in like within their first year? Is it three? Like Adriana saying that this is like three years in Basgot's three years old. I always thought it was a little earlier.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think very early. Yeah, you do it. Yeah, I mean, I guess you can do it whenever you want, but yeah, generally you do it early. I've gotten my dogs always done fairly soon after I get them. I think one time was so scary because I couldn't. I didn't have money to go get it done proper. So they have like a low income trailer, basically. It was in. It was in like the deep valley and it was in the parking lot of a big lot. And I had to go at seven in the morning and just leave Xena in there. And I was waiting outside like, this isn't right. This isn't right. But it was 20 bucks. And you know, she never humped anyone's leg. Jesus. I guess it was cheaper than taking her to get laid in a dog brothel. And the dog brothel.

[Ronnie Karam]

So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why do we need an hour to talk about this one scene? Like nothing really even happened in the scene. But it was so cute and funny. We'll just stay here all day talking about different dog things. Okay? So she's. They hook up and romantic music plays and the dogs see each other and Honey and Basquiat do the deed and they get pictures. Just like a nice video of it. Larsa's gonna be jealous that this dog is like getting its own OnlyFans promo because Lars has never really gotten to do that. We've never seen Larsa do like a foot shoot or whatever.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, Yeah. I just was so happy for Basquiat because when Basquiat was done doing his deed, Basquiat and Honey came out of the hideaway and the rest of the people in the villa, the rest of the dogs just like clapped their paws together. And then like Basquiat went off with the boys and Honey went off with the girls and they talked about what happened. And then later on they played did a challenge where they had to like transfer ketchup from one mouth to another. And then at the recoupling, what was shocking to me was how Basquiat dropped Honey and she had to be kicked off the island. I was. It was. Was a terrible.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh my God. And the worst is right before she get kicked up, Got kicked off, she fell asleep with the other girl dogs and they put her paw in hot water and she peed herself and then she got kicked off the island. It was awkward.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And then G was like, wait. So she got to go to dog. Great. My dream date. Great. Thanks.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Perfect couple. Ivy, Olivia Colman and Theo Rose, Benedict Cumberbatch have it successful careers, a loving marriage and great kids. But when Theo's career comes crashing down, just as Ivy's fame starts to skyrocket, a tinderbox of fierce competition and growing resentment ignites, threatening to destroy everything they've built if they don't destroy each other first.

[Ronnie Karam]

All's fair when love is war.

[Ben Mandelker]

For anyone who's ever been in a relationship, the Roses is a crowd pleasing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Comedy starring Benedict Cumberbatch, Olivia Colman, Andy Samberg, Allison Janney, Shuti gatwa and Kate McKinnon.

[Ben Mandelker]

From the director of Meet the Parents and writer of Poor Things, directed by.

[Ronnie Karam]

Jay Roach and Screenplay by Tony McNamara.

[Ben Mandelker]

This movie looks absolutely hilarious. I love Olivia Colman so much. I'll see anything she's in. And this one looks like a home run in theaters everywhere. August 29th. So there's a preppy party. Marisol is having a prepper party, a preppy party. And they're talking about what to wear. And Lisa's like, I hate themes. I hate themes. Unless they're like, lady who gets money to do bad things in Grand Theft Auto, That's a theme I can get behind. What is preppy?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, what is preppy? Sadriana's like, well, I, you know, like I didn't feel invited. You know, I felt Marisol sent out. She sent out the group chat and like, she never reached out to me. And nevertheless, I'm going to go because, you know, cameras, because the whole boat thing and I kind of regret it. And then we cut to her last week being like, fuck off, you old whore. Go get plastic surgery on your bony knees, because they need it. There's someone, there's someone on Twitter whose name is Marisol's Bony Knees. And I just think that's the funniest Twitter name. It's so funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've been calling people dry knees all week. That was my favorite. Dry knees. Dry knees. Picture. Dry knees. So Adriana's like, yeah, you know, it was a lapse of judgment. I'll say it was a lapse of judgment. And Lisa's like, yeah, I probably wouldn't have said pony knees if, you know, maybe I would take that back. It's like, I'm not proud of it. I'm not proud. She's like, okay, well, good. I'm glad you're taking accountable accountability. I don't know the word, but, you know, stop the calculus. And she's like, I am accountable. I'm ready to move on. And I love when peop the person who did the. I love when the perpetrators are the ones that are ready to move on. I want to say that if I'm ever arrested for something. All right, guys. All right, all right. I robbed the house. Sorry. I'm ready to move on from this.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think I'm ready, guys. I've been thinking about it, and I've processed this, and I understand. And I think we're. I think. I think it's time that we all moved on. I feel ready to move on. Because always in their mind, it's always like, well, the reason why I was a perpetrator is because you did something that offended me. But now I'm over that because I got out my perpetration, and so I. I think we can move on. Meanwhile, someone's sitting there with a house that's burned down.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. Thank you for your apology for having a flammable house. Thank you. So then we go back to Marisol and Julia, and Marisol's like, I invited Adrianna to my property line. Julie's like, well, you guys are completely on opposite planet. What happened with you? Well, I guess she's offended. Sorry. I heard you took me a drink of taking a drink.

[Ronnie Karam]

I forgot to give myself a straw today. So now when I drink coffee, it's like a whole process I've got to do away from my mic, otherwise you guys are gonna hear lots of ice clanking around. Who wants to hear that? Especially when there's a preppy party afoot. But anyway. Well, I guess she got offended because Kiki told her I didn't want to be on the same boat as her. I mean, why would I? I mean, I was already. It was just escalating the whole time. And then we were playing the mind exercise. She kept on giving me all the red flags. I mean, why would she give me the red flags?

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we. We cut to the narcissism party, where Daniel, the narcissism expert, is calling out different narcissistic traits. How are you not calling out having an Instagram full of you shirtless, saying, like, 30 second memes, you fucking narcissist leader.

[Ronnie Karam]

And also, don't stop.

[Ben Mandelker]

So don't stop.

[Ronnie Karam]

Also don't stop. Please. In fact, please be more narcissistic. We'll see it all. Show us everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

All narcissists who work out five times a day. And like, going around shirtless. Keep being narcissists. Everyone else, fix yourself. Okay? We don't have room for homely narcissists on Instagram.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, no, that's. That's absolutely correct.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, she got offended because Kiki told her I don't want to be on the bond with her. But why would I want to be on the same boat with her? I mean, now I have dry knees. Now I have dry knees. Do you have. I've been driving, staring at my knees for days, and she's calling me old. I mean, she's older than me. It was just escalating. It was escalating the whole time. And when we were playing the mind exercise, she's giving me all the red flags. I'm like, I mean, come on.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm not gonna lie. I was surprised to hear that Marisol is younger than Adriana. Because the thing is that, like, everyone.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is surprised to hear that Marisol is younger than Adrianna. Marisol's even surprised. Look at her. Like, she. I'm older than her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, that's again, because all her references. All her references are like, I mean, look at this guy. Look how Adriana's dating a young whippersnapper of a guy. Who is he, Mickey Rooney? Am I right, everyone?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Well, and also, she doesn't help herself because she does dress like the older woman in the telenovela, you know, who's like, the evil. The evil one in the telenovela. And she's like this. She's wearing her, you know, widow's veil and stuff and a widow's outfit, and she's married to an older guy, which is rare because most of them pick. You know, look at Adriana. She's with that, like, French call boy or whatever he is, right?

[Ronnie Karam]

Who, by the way, seems to be locked away somewhere. We haven't seen him since the first episode.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you know, paid by the hour. So we go, we come back, and she's like, yeah. I mean, if you're trying to move forward, why are you still picking? Just stop picking. She just gets so nasty. I mean, my physical appearance, body shaming, my knees. Can you imagine? My knees have good jeans. They're blue.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's older than me. I mean, she kept calling me an old lady. I'm like, you're older than me? Oh, God. She's like a regular Lauren. So Lisa's. Lisa's like, well, I don't like that. Julia's kind of forming a little group with them, and then you're almost like the outsider. Like, I don't like that for you. Maybe that's. That's another reason that you lashed out. I don't mind that Julia has relationship with the other girls in the group. The only thing I mind is Julia having a relationship with other girls in the group. I don't know if I could be any clearer.

[Ben Mandelker]

She knows who Marisol is, but all of a sudden, she's forgotten all of that. And so then we go back to the other two, and Julie is like, I hate what she said to you. I don't like what she did. I love your knees. I love your knees. I love that if I take a little piece of wood and rub it on your knees, I can make fire for babies. Babies and gods.

[Ronnie Karam]

I said, adriana, the only person who could do something to our friendship is you yourself. End goat. You cannot be lashing out at people like that, especially when you decide to move forward. And Samaracel's like, yeah, well, you know, Gertie is in our group, and then we're gonna go continue seeing her. So what are you gonna do to move when you to move forward? Because I don't know what I, you know, I know what I do with Adriana's. I just ignore her. I just pretend it's bogey at the end of the bar, and I'm just gonna be off to Casablanca on my own. You know what I'm saying? People get these references, right? I'm connecting with the Youngins, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, for, you know, me and Gerdy's friendship, the ship has sailed. And Captain Sandy is on it, and she's glad she only had dinner with me, but we could definitely be cordial.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, now Alexi and Stephanie are having some kind of weird stuff going on, and I feel like, you know what? I feel like everybody needs some therapy in this group, and I want to do something for Alexi. I'm having a spontaneous idea right now because. Because I feel like she's just been on this emotional roller coaster for, I don't know, 60 years. At this point, I'm not sure. And so then we see flashbacks to Alexia having her standard season long emotional issues. This is so good.

[Ben Mandelker]

When they were at that dinner, she's like, I'm only having my. This dinner for my friend because he's coming in town. I don't want anything to be about Todd, okay? Nothing about this dinner is about Todd. We're only here to celebrate my friends. And then five minutes later, it's like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please don't ever let me go back to the narcissist. Everybody, please help me. Please.

[Ronnie Karam]

And not only. Not only did Alexia make that dinner about herself, she made it so much about herself that it has been a constant flashback and has also in many ways, been like a kernel that has driven the entire season. Like, wait, I thought you hated narcissists. You had.

[Ben Mandelker]

You.

[Ronnie Karam]

You broke down in a restaurant and talked about how you hated narcissists.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So good.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Julie is like, we need to get her out of Miami because otherwise she will go back to Todd. So where should we go? Let's go to Seville. She's like, seville, Seville, Seville. You know, and she's like, I like Saville. You know, it reminds me of that saying in Spanish. Yes. I love this saying. Captain Sandy will not sit with non lesbians. It's not my fault.

[Ronnie Karam]

My favorite saying is, when there's one seat left for Captain Sandy, you better sit yourself in another restaurant.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's about people who don't tend to their business. They lose their business.

[Ronnie Karam]

Don't follow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, more. Maybe she can lose her mind and lose thought and she goes, okay, yeah, maybe just make sayings. Whatever you want to make them, Julia. Who cares?

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's call.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's call Alexia. So they do. And Alexi's like, star speaking. Star. Yes. Blink in Spanish.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey. Hey there. Well, look. Look who I'm with. It's Julia. So we thought it'd be a good idea to go back to Spain because you love Spain so much. And we could. We could go to Seville. We got a Sevilla, you know. Oh, of course. I love it. I absolutely love it. And we can get you away from Todd. Oh, perfect. Perfect. You know what? That's what I need a break from Todd. But by the way, I have to be back on November 18th because that's birthday as November 19th.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is why we want to organize trip to get it away from Todd. Oh, you know what? Thank you for being such good friends. I love you girls. You girls always bring a smile to my face. You know that. You know that. Please, I have to go now. Todd might call me.

[Ronnie Karam]

You guys bring me a Todd to my face. That's what I say. When I want to say smile, I say toad. Todd Samaro. Soul's like, okay, one caveat that we're not talking about Todd. No dudes, okay? No bros, bro. Okay, I'm not even gonna talk about Steve, the alpha male of the group. Okay? We're not talking about dudes on this trip. Okay? You know, she hung up. I think she hung up about five minutes ago. Didn't she?

[Ben Mandelker]

Meanwhile, at DOG.

[Ronnie Karam]

Now, we see Basquiat finishing the boxes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he doesn't.

[Ronnie Karam]

They get.

[Ben Mandelker]

We get a picture.

[Ronnie Karam]

We get this picture of, like, Basquiat, like, on top of honey, just, like, smiling at the camera. Like, if. If I'm going out, I'm going out in style.

[Ben Mandelker]

I hope we get the whole story of what happens to Basquiat now that he gets snipped. Is he just gonna be like, what is life? Just sitting on the couch, like, what is life? What do I even do with this? Read a book. God.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, well, now I can be a guard for Khaleesi. So we go to Gertie's home. He has real big plans. So we go to Gertie's home, and Gertie is. She calls Dr. Jackie from marriage Medicine, and she's like, oh, that haircut that you have is my favorite. On you, baby. I love it so much. And she's like, oh, well, I need to tell my stylist about it. My stylist, as you know, is a giant plastic vagina that I'll be showing everyone on the next season of Marriage Medicine for many. For many episodes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, in vaginal health for the hair. Which is why I tap my head with a dildo every single day. I've written a book about it. Gertie's like, these girls don't understand me. Nobody understands what it's like. That's cancer. Except you. And she's like, yes. Well, sometimes when friends are bad, friends are good, because you need to thank them for showing you that goodness can be badness and badness can be goodness. Waste not, want not. Two birds in a hand are better than one hand in a bush.

[Ronnie Karam]

I wasn't following any of that because I was transcribing, so that way I can put it up on screen for my next humiliation party. Alrighty. I'm just trying to tell you I'm having trouble having sex. Do you ever have trouble having sex? What's life like for you? What's going on with you? And I'm just keep talking all the way through the scene. So they just. They bond. They bond. Jackie gives her some advice on dealing with, you know, aftermath of breast cancer and being a survivor, et cetera. It's very nice.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm just dealing with shitty friends, you know, because she's like, these girls don't even understand me. I don't know what to do. No, no, no. She's like, well, you know, sometimes when people don't understand you, a Drowning man is bigger than a man who's swimming in a lake. Do you understand what I'm saying? She's like, ah, well, a bird flying overhead is smarter than a hamster on a wheel. And a BMW that's going backwards at 30 miles an hour. Do you understand?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, ah, Listen, Gertie, Big MacMadill T. A quarter Pounder with some cheese filet, a fish, a hamburger, a cheeseburger, a Happy Meal, McDonald's tasty Goldie French fries. Regular or larger size?

[Ben Mandelker]

I would like you to tell those women, just look them straight in the face and say, hold the pickles, hold the lettuce. Special orders don't upset us. All we ask is that you let us have it your way.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then say, we have the meats.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was a very nice phone call full of Dr. Jackie platitudes. And Gertie's like, okay, okay. Well, before you go sniffling, sneezing, nighttime coffee, snuffy heads so you can rest, medicine. Okay, okay, I've gotta go.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, and one last thing. We are farmers. I did like one of Jackie's, one of her. Dr. Jackie's little little sayings. Because she was just telling Gertie, you just got to look forward. She goes, that's why when we drive, you got us. You gotta. You have a little. A little rear view mirror and a big windshield because you'll look back a little bit, but there's a lot more to look at going forward. And also, if you don't look out the windshield, you'll crash into a wall.

[Ben Mandelker]

Crash.

[Ronnie Karam]

Still, I like. I was like, I like that one. Dr. Jackie. I think all Dr. Jackie had to say was this. Now, listen, Gertie, I know it's difficult. You're dealing with very difficult people in your cast. Is quad on your cast? No. Okay, then I don't want to hear it anymore. You have it easy. And we had a Mariah. We had a Mariah segment era on our show.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, there's a reason that stop signs are on the street and not inside the car. Because otherwise, when would you stop? All right.

[Ronnie Karam]

If we didn't have stop signs, Toya would just keep on driving into bushes. We've had to discuss this many times with her.

[Ben Mandelker]

So let's go to Il Gabiano restaurant. Massoud and Stephanie are arriving in matching cheesy outfits, and they're both trying so hard. She's caught. She's, like, trying to be rich and he's trying to be young, and it doesn't work. For either of them, they both look like posers. Sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

They look ridiculous. Well, he is so ridiculous when he tries to look young, like when he was doing his tick tock challenges or he wears his hat backwards. It's more cringy than when Mauricio does it. Because Massoud really, I mean, I think he's like, approaching, like, early 80s. And it's just watching him trying to do, like, this Abercrombie and Fitch moment. It's like, oh, come on, Massoud. So they sit down. Massoud is so excited to meet Martina because he. He is a Martina super fan. And he really can't even hide it in this scene, which is really funny because he's very, very wealthy, or at least presents as very, very wealthy. And you sort of feel like when you're really, really wealthy, you don't act like a blubbering mess around celebrities. But he kind of is. He's kind of a disaster.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And I like that Martina isn't even like, performatively humble at all, ever. It's so funny to me. And she's accomplished a lot. She doesn't have to be. There's no rule that says she has to be. It's just a funny demeanor to me because Stephanie's like, oh, oh, you've met my husband. You know, my husband has been dying to meet you. She goes, yeah, she told me that you know more about me than I do. I'm amazing. I know. All right, go ahead, say what you have to say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Seriously. So, yeah, he's, like, really excited. And then. But of course, first they have to start talking about, like, the kids, you know, and, like, how everything's going with the babies.

[Ben Mandelker]

But it's not really just a standard conversation because it's so depressing. They're like, so, how are your new babies? And Martina's like, oh, you know, they still cry when we leave for about two seconds. And then diversion, distraction. You know how they are just off doing whatever. And Stephanie's like, well, how old are you going to be when they're 20? The fuck kind of question is that.

[Ronnie Karam]

To say, I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jesus, you're married to Methuselah. What are you talking about?

[Ronnie Karam]

How old is Masoud going to be when you turn 20? Stephanie. So. So Martina is like, well, you know, they still cry when we leave. And for about two seconds. Oh, yeah, I said this part. God.

[Ben Mandelker]

God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sometimes I just like to say it again just because I know Massoud is so excited to hear me talk. So he's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Julia's like, she just turned 67. 68. Julia. I love that Julia has no idea how old her wife is. Julia is just out of it. She didn't know where her kids went to school. She doesn't know how old her wife was. Her wife is getting cancer treatments. Julia's off getting a facelift. I mean, what the hell?

[Ronnie Karam]

Summer Sweet is like, so. Martina, talk to me. I used to watch you. Obviously, that's why I'm wearing this Martina T shirt. Yeah, I noticed that. But we used to watch you all the time. I mean, to find you against. What's her name. I appreciate you pretending to forget Chris Everett's name. That. That really warms my heart.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's funny. That's what we used to call her. What's her name. So that actually works out perfect.

[Ronnie Karam]

My favorite thing with Chris Everett is the way her hair would always fluff so delicately every time the ball went flying by her because she never could hit it back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are you missing those times? Those times that you got to play with what's her face? And it's like, well, if I could still play, I would. But, you know, I don't miss the stress. When I retired in 94, my mom said I look 10 years younger because the stress, it was gone forever until I met this one.

[Ronnie Karam]

This let me you understand how stressful it was to have to try to make conversation with Chris Everett. God, talk about boring. So. So Massoud is like, so you going to cut your coach, your sons, or maybe, I don't know, handsome gentleman who looks like he might be only 24 years old when he has backwards hat on? No, I will not.

[Ben Mandelker]

But he has motorcycle jacket. Well, that's tempting, but still very, very tight pants. Very tight pants.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, there. Does he have any canvases that I can hit tennis balls onto making art?

[Ben Mandelker]

I might teach them artwork. I forgot that she did that. Her art, where she would hit a tennis ball into a. Into a wet canvas. That was good. Whatever happened to that?

[Ronnie Karam]

I did like it, actually, quite a bit.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So basically she's like, she'll supervise her son's but and she says if they take it on later then she'll, she'll step in. But she's like, but I need someone else to teach them basics. You know, like Chris Everett, you know, someone who just deals with low level skills.

[Ben Mandelker]

I need someone else to teach them the Chris Everett's, you know, the basics.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love that Martina is such a tennis diva that she like, she's like, I'm not gonna deal with anyone who's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, who's below a certain level, not even my own children. Like, they need. If I'm gonna play tennis with my children, someone else needs to bring them up to, like, us. Open level. But until then, I'm not even gonna hold a racket in their presence.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, they can barely hold a banana at this point. But, you know, if ever they. If ever they get off their asses and do something, maybe, you know, one of them just dropped an egg.

[Ronnie Karam]

It was on Chris Everett's head, so we. We applauded him.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Stephanie's like, so, do you have siblings, Julia? And she's like, I have brother. One brother, 12 years younger. He's in Moscow. We go once or twice a year. I'm super close, super close. And she's like, oh, yeah, I have twin sisters. We stop talking to each other. We don't speak the same language. I mean, I. I don't mean to sound depressing about it. It's like, can you just. Are you asking someone else about their life?

[Ronnie Karam]

Or, like, no, she just wanted a segue. It's just that way she could talk about that. She's. She does not care about Julia's family. She just wanted to set up the conversation so she could talk about how her bitch twin sisters don't talk to her or their parents, so that way she could continue to weaponize this platform against them, publicly shame them.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's okay, because then Julia takes it right back and makes it about her again, but with something else. She's like, no, no. You know, we're having difficult time with older daughters because. Because we don't have communication with him anymore because of our new family dynamic. It's growing pains. And she says that the adoption came as a surprise to her girls because you didn't tell them. I mean, is that what you were getting out of this? Like, she did?

[Ronnie Karam]

Here's what I was thinking.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're gonna adopt kids. And then the next minute, they've got two new kids, and they're like, excuse me, where is my inheritance going? Like, what the hell?

[Ronnie Karam]

Not only. Where's. Not only. Where's my inheritance? Like. Like, no offense, you two are both a bit older, and we're gonna have to be the ones taking care of these kids ultimately. Like, when they're, like, 10 or 11, you know, like, we're probably gonna have to step in, or, like, they're gonna have to live with us. Who knows? Who knows what life has in store. But they know it's basically. They know it's more than just like, suddenly two new brothers. It's like, oh, we have to take care of these kids out of nowhere. But also. But even that being said, like, Like, I mean, I can't. I kind of can't imagine just suddenly stop talking to your mom. Because she. She kids well. But I imagine being like, mom, like, mom. That's so annoying. Stop it. But I can't imagine being like, I'm never talking to her again because she's opening her house up to two children that need a house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, we don't obviously know the whole story, but it. From what Julia is saying here, they didn't really tell the kids. Like, there's no communication. I think the kids are just like, no.

[Ronnie Karam]

The kids were given a Zoom link and they chose not to come. Just kidding. They were late to the Zoom link, and so it was up to them to read about it in the news and that they. If they chose to. If they had chosen to come onto the Zoom five minutes earlier, they could have been looped in like everyone else who was cool.

[Ben Mandelker]

Julia would too. I'm sorry. They read it in people. That's why they read if they don't get to Zoom. So I think it's about.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think it's about inheritance. I think it's about inheritance, and I think it's also. It's inheritance and knowing that they just have to. This will be an up. This is going to be a responsibility that's going to land on them ultimately. Because, you know, I think that Martina and Julia are older and, like, it's not going to be. It's. I don't think it's gonna be a cakewalk.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So, yeah, she says they are upset with us for not communicating enough with them about what's going to happen. So you didn't. Them. I just was cracking up. That is so Julia. So I cannot believe my daughters are.

[Ronnie Karam]

Not talking to me after. I did not talk to my daughters about what we are doing.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we see a clip to illustrate how close she is with her brother in Moscow and they're on FaceTime. And she's like, I don't know what to do. The girls won't talk to me. I've tried to call them, but they won't. They won't. I tried to have my sons facetime them. They just hang up on them. I don't know what to do. And he's like, listen, here's what I always say. Hold the pickle hold the lettuce.

[Ronnie Karam]

Special orders.

[Ben Mandelker]

Have you been watching Mary the Medicine? So Martina's like, well, it's just sad, you know, because you can't have that time back. You know, you have regrets that you wasted this time because it's so precious and you just can't have it back. But, you know, I get it out of my system like everything else, with a toothpick. A toothpick right here. Doesn't she always look like she's got a toothpick in her mouth? She's always like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she looks like a toothpick. I just want her to wear a big floppy top hat at one point so that way she can complete her Tom Petty look. That's all I want. So I'm free. Free falling. Sorry. That's Chris Everett chasing after a ball.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Stephanie's like, this really hits home because my sisters aren't speaking to my parents. And my advice to Julia is she just nips it in the bud. Just nip it in the bud. You aren't. You still want to speak to your sister. So whatever she says, it's too long. It's been too long for her to turn back. Oh, lady, I'm team sisters. I can tell you that right now. I'm team sisters.

[Ronnie Karam]

You were in Sisters, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sure you flaunt your shit all in front of your sisters. You ended up stealing some man, some wife's husband, and now you're walking around her house like, I want every piece of that woman gutted out of this house. I mean, you're not cute, ma'. Am. I'm team sisters.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, we know that Patty and Selma are probably in the right on this one. So then we go over. So Masouda's like, well, you know, life is tough and you have to make the best out of it. A lot of these guys really coming in with a lot of really, really sage advice. Time heals everything. Life is tough. You gotta make the best out of it. If you ever wanted proof that men are really listening, this scene is it. They're like, okay, now, you know, he's like, the best part of waking up is Folgers in your cup. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's just long. It's just taglines now. That's all.

[Ronnie Karam]

It just like, I'm loving it. So Julia's like, on is the place. Wait, what is it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Ace is the place, right? Ace is the place for you. Is the place for. It's not coming to me, but God damn, that tune's addictive. Isn't it? It's his place in the happy hardware store.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's the one that I'm always singing. Oh, the Sky Rizzy song. God, I love the Sky Rizzy song. You do love Nothing Is Everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nothing is Everything, Skyri.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, nothing is Everything. You ever think about that? Okay, well, on that note, speaking of nothing, Marisol has an idea. We are going to go a girl's trip to Sevilla. Would you like to come? She's like, yeah, so. Oh, that was a direct yes. She's like, I want to come.

[Ben Mandelker]

Can I come?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, no, you have to babysit boys. Unless you can get daughters to babysit boys. Oh, let's have daughters babysit boys. Like, mom, this is why we're not talking to you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Put boys in bags, ship to daughter. And Stephanie's like, I'm gonna take my airplane. My airplane. You have access to your husband's business plane, Erica Jane. Okay, we all know that ain't your airplane. Stop it. And Martina's like, no, I really want to go. And Stephanie's like, you are coming with me on my airplane, but who else did you invite? And so she's already starting to use her plane as a weapon. Like, we already see it coming. And Julia tells her is obviously Alexia because it's her trip, kind of. And she's like, well, should we go to bar and talk about Alexia for a second so the husbands don't have to hear? And she's like, well, I don't know where this is going, but I'd love to let Astro over here get some autographs. He's like, oh, goody, goody. The young boy inside of me cannot wait to talk to sexy Martina.

[Ronnie Karam]

This was such an awkward transition. Shall we go talk at bar about Alexia? What is. What is this strange staging that they're.

[Ben Mandelker]

Having so, like, thing in the 50s? Like, ladies, business doesn't belong in front of the gentleman. That's.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know. So then we. Julia's like, right now, it's big clash with Garrity, so we just have to know how to deal with it. So Stephanie's like, well, I'm new to this group, and I feel like everyone's welcomed me except for Alexia, the Rottweiler, the. The slobbering, crazy, humping Rottweiler that she is. And I just feel unwelcome by her. I know you're gonna, like, stick up for her because you've been friends with her longer. She's like, well, I know, but you cannot make excuses for a bully. You just cannot do that. Now, excuse me, I've got 80 men on a construction side I've got to yell at. Get back to work, you losers. Otherwise I'm going to throw you you into a pool. Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please do not support bullies. Now, let's make a list of people I can bully off of my plane.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know. So meanwhile, Martina stuck with Massoud and he's like, you know, you were in very good shape. I never forget looking at your arms. So much veins. It was like looking at map of highway. Seriously?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, that's why Julia fell in love with me. Because of my amazing arm. She said she saw him on tv. That's what I got. That's what I got. My hot lady with great arms and brilliant at tennis. Anything else? You got anything else? Just keep it coming.

[Ronnie Karam]

People would always say, Martina, she's the veiny one. Chris Everett, that's like yogurt in a skirt.

[Ben Mandelker]

Am I right?

[Ronnie Karam]

Am I right? No.

[Ben Mandelker]

One time someone complimented Chris's arms and I said, no, sir, I'm sorry that you're actually talking to a trash can. Chris is over there. This is over there.

[Ronnie Karam]

When you guys are talking about Chris's arms, are you talking about her arms or the lines in the tennis court? Because as far as I could tell, they're both lying flat out on the grass.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, I'd like an order. Waiter, Come over here. Misero, Come over here. I'd like to get an order of Chris Everett's arms. I'm sorry, noodles.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my favorite is when Chris Everett would serve. And every time, well, she would never get it in. And before the ref could even say fault, I'd go, your fault for being stupid every single time.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, we are really faltering here. I hope the ladies come back soon. No, no, really. Let's talk about our tour.

[Ronnie Karam]

Getting drunken. You know what? Blah, blah, fizz, fizz. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Do you want to. Do you want to babysit a couple of egg dropping children who don't know how to play anything?

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what Masoud, a wise man once told me, Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that KitKat bar.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sorry. I just finished that chapter on the Dr. Jackie book and I'm more in love with you than ever. So then we go back to Julia and she's like, I talk to Alexia almost every day. And I' 100% sure, knowing your personality, you can have conversation. You can get over it. And she's like, oh, oh, really? Well, I want to talk to her. I hope they have planes on her Southwest airline that she'll be riding to Seville. And Julie is like, well, I thought we could meet in different place, different continent and see how we could make it work. And she's like, oh, okay, here's to Spain. Let's hope everything comes back hunky dory.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes, hunky dory. I don't understand that phrase.

[Ben Mandelker]

Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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