#2962 RHOC S19E04: NOLAve Lost

Summary

Watch What Crappens - Episode #2962: RHOC S19E04 "NOLAve Lost"

Release Date: August 8, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the latest drama unfolding in Season 19 of The Real Housewives of Orange County (RHOC), specifically focusing on Episode 4 titled "NOLAve Lost." The duo provides a humorous and critical analysis of the cast's trip to New Orleans, highlighting interpersonal conflicts, character developments, and memorable moments that fans and newcomers alike will find engaging.

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Trip to New Orleans: Setting the Stage

The episode kicks off with Ben and Ronnie setting the scene for the RHOC cast's New Orleans getaway. They highlight the anticipation and underlying tensions as the Housewives embark on their vacation, a traditional backdrop ripe for both camaraderie and conflict.

Ben Mandelker reflects:
"It's fitting that Gretchen showed up in her extreme Fox News hair because she is finally getting some pushback for her social media posting this week."
(05:35)

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Gretchen Rossi's Controversial Behavior

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Gretchen Rossi, who has been a polarizing figure in the season. Ben and Ronnie express their disdain for Gretchen's recent social media antics, labeling her remarks as transphobic, homophobic, and racist. They dissect specific instances where Gretchen has exhibited offensive behavior, such as liking disparaging posts and making insensitive comments.

Ronnie Karam emphasizes:
"She's a transphobic, homophobic, racist."
(07:04)

Ben shares screenshots of Gretchen's unsettling posts, including inflammatory statements linking homosexuality to pedophilia and advocating for the normalization of harmful behaviors.

Ben Mandelker exclaims:
"Look at this photo. She looks so different. And I said, she looks cute. And I made it an all caps and elongated cute to make it sound fatter."
(31:18)

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Interpersonal Conflicts and "Fatty Photos"

The tension between cast members becomes apparent with the recurring theme of "fatty photos." Gina Kirschenheiter, portraying herself as a feisty member of the group, confronts Tamara over the dissemination of unflattering photographs.

Gina states:
"Stay in your bed; I don't need to hear this."
(07:36)

The hosts mock the overuse of the term "fatty photo," highlighting the melodramatic reactions and the unnecessary focus on body image issues within the group dynamics.

Ben Mandelker mockingly remarks:
"Why would you show my fatty photo?"
(16:28)

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Party Planning and Decor Critiques

As the Housewives prepare for a big party in New Orleans, the hosts comment on Gina's home decor, contrasting her previous limited space with her current larger, more ostentatious setup. They poke fun at her excessive word art and the superficial aspects of her hosting style.

Gina humorously quips:
"It smells like not vegetables."
(10:50)

Ben and Ronnie highlight Gina's over-the-top decorating choices, such as a self-named Roomba and elaborate signage, portraying her as out of touch and overly concerned with appearances.

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Tamara's Struggle and Support Systems

Tamara struggles with her friend's battle with cancer, seeking support from the group. However, Ronnie and Ben criticize Tamara for leveraging someone else's tragedy for personal sympathy, suggesting that her approach is disingenuous and self-serving.

Ronnie points out:
"It's like she's trying to use the victim cloak, and it's not even hers."
(28:55)

They argue that Tamara's behavior contrasts with Teddi's more composed handling of her cancer diagnosis, painting Tamara as manipulative and exploitative.

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Humorous Skits and Character Exaggerations

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie incorporate comedic skits that exaggerate the Housewives' behaviors. These segments include exaggerated attempts at friendship, mockery of vacation mishaps like spilled drinks, and satirical portrayals of each cast member's quirks.

Ben humorously narrates:
"So Tamara's like, I can't eat today, guys. I'm just thinking about Teddy's tumor news."
(26:16)

Ronnie adds:
"She just wants to mess it up. It's not bad. It's not cool."
(52:42)

These skits serve to amplify the absurdity of the Housewives' interactions, making light of their conflicts and personal struggles.

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Final Showdown and Departure

As the trip progresses, tensions culminate in heated exchanges and dramatic confrontations. The Housewives accuse each other of hypocrisy, insensitivity, and manipulation, leading to heightened drama that is both entertaining and cringe-worthy.

Gina dramatically exclaims:
"I'm the more linear one."
(57:29)

Ben concludes:
"You are the worst person in the world. You were spreading around fatty pictures."
(79:57)

The episode wraps up with the cast departing New Orleans, leaving unresolved tensions and setting the stage for future conflicts in the season.

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Conclusion

This episode of Watch What Crappens offers a sharp, witty critique of RHOC's latest episode, "NOLAve Lost." Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam skillfully navigate the complex web of relationships and conflicts within the Housewives, providing insightful and humorous commentary that underscores the sensational nature of reality TV drama. Their analysis not only entertains but also offers a critical lens through which to view the often superficial and contentious interactions of the cast.

As Ronnie signs off:
"Such a funny episode. Such a good season. Thank you, everyone, for being here."
(80:16)

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Notable Quotes

• Ben Mandelker:
  "What a dick. What a dick."
  (05:50)

• Ronnie Karam:
  "It's the difference between poor people fat and rich people skinny."
  (30:44)

• Gina Kirschenheiter:
  "I did dangle myself from a rope."
  (50:46)

• Tamra Judge:
  [Promotional pitch not included in summary]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the glorious and beautiful Ronnie Carol.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Hi. Hi.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello. How are you?

[Ronnie Karam]

Just dandy. We're here. We're queer. And it's Friday. It's Orange County Day. And actually, I would say it's not just Orange County Day. It is Gretchen Rossi, like super Fox News hair day because she really took it to the next level. She is like ready to take over Fox Friends with that hair. Like that. Is she? And you know what? God bless. God bless that white, platinum white anchor lady hair that she's got. Today we are talking Orange County. We have a wonderful Patreon that you can join where we have bonus episodes. And this week we talked on our bonus episode about Project Runway and Big Brother and the Naked Gun and a baby shower and I think maybe something else. I don't remember. But we had a lot of fun just chatting it up. So there is that. We do a weekly bonus episode. We do things like Trailer Trash is where we make fun of trailers for upcoming shows. And Salt Lake City feels like it's right around the corner, so keep an eye out for that, etc. Also, crappin's on demand where you can watch us, not just listen. We have a video component to this podcast and it is there on Patreon. And then a week after they go, go onto YouTube. But you know, for your fresh content, go to Patreon and a lovely Discord channel as well. And then on Monday, we have Crappy hour, that's at 5:30 where we talk about Bravo gossip, et cetera. And then you guys get a chance to hop on and chat with us and air whatever's on your mind. That's at 5:30 Western, 8:30 Eastern. And we are going to alternate Monday's crappy hour and Amazon lives. So it's going to be a super, super fun Monday, always, for the rest of eternity. Ronnie, what's going on with you?

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, it's fitting that Gretchen showed up in her extreme Fox News hair because she is finally getting some pushback for her social media posting this week. Have you been reading any of the Gretchen news?

[Ronnie Karam]

I have. Shockingly, I have.

[Ben Mandelker]

What a dick. What a dick.

[Ronnie Karam]

What happened now? What did our. I was just about to say I'm really enjoying Gretchen this season. I was just about to do a whole thing of, like, you know what? I'm really happy that Gretchen's back. I think she's doing a great job. But now what before.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, that's why I'm opening with this, so you don't fall into too deep of a hole. Because I just gonna come in and fangirl over this chick. Well, one of them is she and Jen Pedranti made some, like, video doing Asian voices and making squinty eyes and stuff. Katie Janela went on. Katie Janela went on virtual reality with the boys and was talking about that not being cool. And then right after that, someone finally went. Gretchen's social media, which, you know, I've mentioned a couple of times, is horrifying. I was not glad she was coming back at all. Because, listen, I know that there are people from all over the political spectrum here. I'm not here to get into, like, Trumpy this, Trumpy that. You know, not that I've never been guilty of that. But, you know, it's not only that. It's not only a political thing. Like, she's got transphobic. She's just a transphobic, homophobic, homo, homo, homosexual, homophobic, racist.

[Ronnie Karam]

Someone from Orange county is. Someone from Orange county has these qualities.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. But at least, you know, as they always say to us, keep it in your bedroom. I don't need to hear it. Like, if that's your thought, then you do that at home. I don't need to hear this. Like, I don't need you. So here's some screenshots that she's been liking. This was compiled, I Believe, by Bambi4183 over on the Insta. But here's just an example. When you open the door to homosexuality, you open the door to pedophilia. You'll never win by normalizing perversion. That's a Gretchen.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, Gretchen. Gretchen Rossi.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, Gretchen. Another one is. She didn't write these. She's liking these. Then another One says sin is a slippery slope. If you think it's bad now, give it a couple of years. If you want to save the kids, start by calling homosexuality what it is. And then this mixed with her racist ass post that she actually made off. Gretchen, like, seriously, go back to the fucking rock you crawled under. What a horrible, horrible, disgusting human being. And also, keep kicking Tamara's ass while you're here. I mean, if you're gonna be here, keep doing what you're doing. But also off.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, Gretchen, who probably has, like, several gay men on her team, you know, forming that Megan Kelly tribute on her head, is, like, still gonna, like all these homophobic things. That's just. I mean, I'm always. I'm always so shocked when homophobes go on to Bravo. I'm like, you know, like. Like, it's either like, you are biting the hand that feeds you or you're selling out your own views, you know, just to get some money. So either way, you're a shitty person. I mean, what.

[Ben Mandelker]

I guess going off and, like, going off on, quote, unquote, perversion. So I guess, you know, the only kind of perversion you like is young chicks selling themselves to old, rich men. Like, that's okay with you. Off. Gretchen, get off your. Your. Your toad stool. Okay. Sick of hearing you keep kicking Tamara's ass. You're doing great.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we open with y. Start this Friday with a nice, strong.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was like, okay, great. Here we. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. We're gonna have a fun episode. So we start with Gina.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, you can say off to somebody and still have a fun episode, but, you know, I felt like it was.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, she needs to.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't want to waste the.

[Ronnie Karam]

All the way off. Yeah, she needs to. All the way off. There's no room for, like, that sort of hateful language and. And thought process, I think, in 2025 in general. And if you are liking those posts, you can off, too. How about that? So Gina is saying, oh, my God, can you put.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Can you put clean Latifah in the garage?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's asking Trevor Travis, whatever his name is, to do this because she's getting ready for a big party, and she has a Roomba that she's named Clean Latifah. And she's like, that's not the point.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That I'm going for. Yeah, I'm going for. I'm really going for more of a, like, you know, cardboard box type.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, the furniture is sun chairs. You know what I'm saying?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Get Queen Latifah out of here. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Shannon's in glam getting ready.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And she's like, well, I will be re gifting a candle that Earl to Pearl gave me. Apparently it is the scent of a lake, which I am still refusing to let into my life. So I'm going to give Gina a lake. A lake candle. And. And apparently it will automatically extinguish itself if a hurricane is coming for it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's got an adorable name. It is called you didn't comfort me when a hurricane was ravaging my home. Gina's gonna love this.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It smells like not vegetables.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Ryan, we go over to Jen's house and Ryan's coming down, hobbling down a staircase because his knee and everything. And he's showing Jen address. And then we see Gretchen and Glam.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, oh, well, my friend is gonna be there. Tamara.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Slade's like, are you talking about Captain Evil? Gosh, I don't know why his stand up career never really took off.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because he is crazy, isn't it? God, how is he not still a hilarious DJ on the radio? Wow. So back to Gina.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, oh my God, it looks so good in here. Oh, ding dong. Ding dong. Ding dong. That's definitely Emily because she liked ding dongs a lot.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're like hilarious like that.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

We're like ding dongs.

[Ben Mandelker]

So.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, because she's, she is like hitting, she's doing that thing where she's like ding donging a lot. Because like that's Emily's humor. Is that like her, her joke style is that she acts like a six year old, right? Like she has, she has food dangling out of her mouth. She has the doorbell lots of times. Like, isn't this funny? Regressive. Regressive. So yeah, she's there and people start showing up and everyone's just so impressed that Gina has more than 300 square feet now. They're like, oh, wow, look at all this. You have, you have, you have an open concept, but not because it was forced that way. There's like, it's actually, it's an open concept that's not for walls. It's not like a Monica open concept. It's like you actually have multiple rooms where you could have had walls and you don't have walls as opposed to all the furniture in just one small.

[Ben Mandelker]

Room as opposed to a studio apartment. Like, wow, what an open concept. And it's not a park.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow, this is, I love that. This house is like the opposite of Gretchen. It's an open concept.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the Gretchen comes like, oh, my God, Gina.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

The house is so pre.

[Ben Mandelker]

Take a tour. Which, you know, is. Is two rooms. And so we see the kids rooms and stuff. And then there's a container in the laundry room that says, check your pockets.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like just, you know, there was a time when we would clock Gina for her decor. And I think that when she lived in her small home, she didn't have room for her decor. And now that she's in a larger house again, the decor is back. I mean, the little like, check your pockets.

[Ben Mandelker]

She loves some word art. That's a. Gina's always been a thing.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Kitchen. Buy a place.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's acting like she's. I want to make Gina some. We should make some merch. That just says in merch art font.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I feel so bad. I feel bad.

[Ronnie Karam]

I feel she would. She would make a great TSA agent.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, check your pocket.

[Ronnie Karam]

She puts it up there. It just has like a sign up that says security welcome live laugh screening.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is a visual interpretation of how much she's grown. And yes, I'm referring. Referring to the check your pocket sign. She really deserves this.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I don't know what.

[Ben Mandelker]

Check your pockets before you leave the house and make sure you haven't been pickpocketed by one of these poor children really hungry here.

[Ronnie Karam]

When I. This is how much she's. This is a visual interpretation of how much she's grown. And then I wrote and how much work she's put into her beach. I'm pretty sure that was a typo on my part. What did I mean by how much work she's put into her beach? The idea of Gina even having anything close to private beach is hilarious. I don't know what that's all about.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Gina's like, charlie's here.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She made a bunch of food because she kiddos all my party. She's the one who did the bull party. Do you guys remember that? It's the one that I kaded from inside my house while you guys were on a boom because I wasn't feeling good.

[Ronnie Karam]

Of course I remember that party because that's when they went on a tiny little boat and Heather came up the stairs and reached what was clearly there was no more to the boat. And she goes, is there another. Is there another floor? Is there another floor to this yacht? I mean, look up, Heather. There's no more Urana Gina yacht. There's one floor and one floor only.

[Ben Mandelker]

So did Jen get to go meet Tamra and Jen did have lunch with Tamara. It started with a whole, I'm obsessed with her things. Just. Oh, God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like a single white female, and I've taken photos of her to go to the doctor to look like her. That's what she's saying. And Gina's like, oh, actually, Heather told.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Me Tamara pulled out her phone and.

[Ben Mandelker]

She pulled out, like, this former fatty photo of Jen. And by the way, fatty photo.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That's what we're saying today.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everybody's about to say, we're gonna say.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Fanny photo, like, 20 times today. Okay. It was like a fanny photo.

[Ronnie Karam]

2024. Emily. I can't. You know, when I had to wear this size, it just reminded me that I just am different than everyone else. That's really hard. 2025 fanny photo, fatty. Who's a fatty photo?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, my God. Like, look at fatty.

[Ronnie Karam]

Look at the fatty photo.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, my God. She's like a fatty photo bitch. Why would she show my fatty photo?

[Ben Mandelker]

What's Tamara's point? What is her point? This is ridiculous. How do you cry about this low point? You're. You're pointing this low point. You're in and you're going to therapy and you're still finding time. A fatty photo of me.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I mean, it's a fatty photo. I have a question. Was the photo a picture of a fat you, or was the photo itself fat? Was it like thick stalk, like. No, Gina, it's not the point.

[Ronnie Karam]

I have lots of fat photos of Tamara would like them. Actually, I post them. I don't care.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, oh, Emily doesn't care. Really? Because last year you had a season long breakdown because somebody gave you jeans that were not as. As small as everyone else's jeans. Someone gave you the size of jeans that you wear, and you literally had a breakdown about it all season. But now everyone's just supposed to be calm about it because your buddy Tamara did it. You fucking hypocrite. Emily. Oh, my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ding dong, ding dong, ding dong. Hello, I am here. It's television's Heather Dubrow. And I have arrived with a housewarming gift. I hear there's talk about fatty photos. So to celebrate, I have brought you an ice cream machine. And by me saying I brought you an ice cream machine, I have brought Alfredo here. Alfredo, bring in the ice cream machine. Thank you. You can just put it on one of the poor stools here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Put it somewhere a fat person can find it.

[Ronnie Karam]

We've also brought a ring light, so that way you can take your fatty photo with the thing that's making you a fatty photo. The ice cream machine. Enjoy.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was just in Paris for two days, which made me think of ice cream. They love it there. Somehow they don't gain any weight. Isn't that amazing? Sorry, Jen. Is it too soon? Do you know about the fatty photo?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Why are we talking about the fatty photo?

[Ronnie Karam]

There is no one on this cast who is going to use that ice cream machine. Not a single one of them. Well, first of all, the only one who would would be Gina. But she. Well, she just. Her problem is that she won't understand how to. How to work it. She'll be putting like masking tape and.

[Ben Mandelker]

Staples can't ragu in there and shit. And whatever she finds in the check your pockets bin.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Guys, my ragu ice cream didn't work out. I feel bad. I broke the ice cream machine.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Tamra is. Then Tamara arrives and she is, you know, obviously very sad because she's like, you know, the situation with Teddi and she's like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

After my fight with Jen, my social anxiety is heightened. I'm expecting someone to come after me at every given moment. I checked once, I've checked twice, and all my former fatty photos are still safe. But I don't know what's gonna happen next. Who's gonna reveal my fatty photos? I'm terrified coming to this party. Everybody's just so mean to me. It's so rough going in places. What people might confront me about things I said about him. Terrible, terrible life. I'm leaving.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Gretchen's like, we don't have to.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Say hi to her, do we? Like, this is so awkward.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so a person just ignore her.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gretchen's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Can we just treat her like a trans person and eradicate her? That would be great.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love. I love Gretchen being anti trans when she is the one who is transitioned the most on TV from a. From a human face to basically an ink spot.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, that lady, she's de transitioned. Maybe that's why she wants everybody to detransition. It doesn't mean erasing your nose, Tamra. Gretchen.

[Ronnie Karam]

Gretchen is the one who knows the most about what it's like to transition because she's the one who has actually erased everything on her face. Am I being problematic right now? I can't tell. I'm just trying to diss Gretchen.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm just trying to diss her. Guys, I think it got out of hand.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, I don't want to say hi. So all the women gather on the sofa and it is really awkward because Tamara, you know Tamara brings in this energy that's like you're the one who fucks with everybody and now you're going to come in here and try and and get pity off somebody else's cancer. This is so fucking Tamara. It's like, okay, I don't have My own cancer storyline. So I'm gonna steal someone else's from a different show because I've been an asshole all season.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, okay, Tamra, also, congratulations on this. On your sudden onset social anxiety, which has never existed until this scene.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, my God, I have such social anxiety, which is, of course, why I went on a very calming show like the Traitors.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gretchen is like, okay, well, Gina.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What'S your favorite part of the house? And she's like, well, it's really nice to have a pantry. That's where, like, dreams come true.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's what I always say to Alfredo. I say, go into the pantry. Your dreams will come true in there.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Yeah. Also, like, I did all my draws.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she goes, oh, wait, you say draws, not drawers. Is that typical ice cream lover? I told you it would be the perfect place to drop that thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love how hyper regional your New York accent is, unlike mine, which I've erased. Thanks to the Syracuse College School of Performing Arts. We had accent training, something that, unfortunately, Wendy Malik never did. I think we all remember when she tried to play an Italian nursemaid in that feature film called Italian Nursemaids. It was a terrible film. I don't know. Did anyone see it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Very on the nose. Very on the nose.

[Ronnie Karam]

Which is. Which is what the. Gina's ragu sauce is currently on her nose after she tried to put it in my ice cream machine. I'm gonna stop talking now.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Gina, what's your favorite?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, no, sorry. I did that. So Shannon comes, and she's like, gina.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I brought you my tagline.

[Ben Mandelker]

In a bowl, there's lemons. In a bowl, there's soap.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You're welcome. So this is so nice. Nice, Gina. Wow. So this is the entryway to the. This is the house. Oh, well, this is. It is.

[Ben Mandelker]

There are walls here, so that's good.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wow. Room for a sofa and a dining room table. Wow. This is. You've really come up in the world. Very, very, very nice table.

[Ben Mandelker]

Transition into a bunk bed or where the kids sleep.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Have room. I think I'm gonna like it here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do, do, do, do, do, do. What am I in a mansion?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Am I in a mansion? What is this, the lullaby of Broadway? I mean, luxury everywhere?

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gina's like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I'm, like, really underwhelmed by Shannon's response. Oh, it's nice. All she has to say is, it's nice.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, that's all she's gonna say, because last time she ever said anything about your house, you started a feud with her for an entire season.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I can't believe Shannon.

[Ronnie Karam]

Remember that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. So. And she's gonna do it again because this is how she.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Yeah. And then when you walked into my house, well, you said, was. It was nice. Like, you didn't even congratulate me on, like, everything I accomplished.

[Ronnie Karam]

Again, it's nothing more than that, Gina. It's just a perfectly nice standard house. That's it. It's nice. It's a very nice. It's a nice house. I mean, we give her shit. It's a nice house, but that's all you get. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a very nice.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're on Bravo. We see much nicer houses.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a. Nah. It's a house who prepared. So Tamara can't eat today.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, I can't eat today, guys. I'm just thinking about Teddy's tumor news.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we talk about Teddy's cancer and stuff, and she says that they were in New Orleans two weeks ago going to the super bowl, and Teddy fell down the stairs.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And they were like, marble stairs. They were marble stairs.

[Ben Mandelker]

And finally, Teddy was feeling better. I don't know why that detail.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, I just want stairs the worst. Which meant it was worse for me. Downstairs, there were marble stairs, and there were marbles on the stairs, which we thought that's why she fell down, but that's not why.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's. Tamara was sad because it's sad because Teddy was finally feeling like herself, and now she's got to go into treatment. Okay, now I'm gonna say this. This is where I got annoyed. Well, one of the many different places. And I'm in a constant state of being annoyed. But, you know, we've obviously, over the years, given Teddi so much shit, like, endless shit. But one thing that I think that we probably both would believe would be that, like, I'm sure Teddi hates that Tamara's going on the show and acting more dramatic than Teddi herself is acting. Because Teddi's whole vibe is like, I got cancer. Hi, I'm Teddy. I got cancer. I'm moving on. Like, that's been her vibe, I think, which I think is actually really cool. But I feel like Tamara.

[Ben Mandelker]

And lists all the people who haven't reached out enough, but go ahead. But, yeah, for the most part, why not?

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what? Actually, I'm gonna say why not?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's when you have the right. For sure, you have the right. You have to get petty about who's been texting.

[Ronnie Karam]

Play that card. But Tamara, like, look, I'm not gonna Take away that. It's like a mo. It's distressing. Your. One of your best friends has. Has cancer and has tumors. Of course. Of course. That's so distressing. But there's kind of a feeling of like, Teddi's being strong right now. Like, how about you be strong with her rather than, like. Cause she's kind of, I think, painting Teddy as. In a way that I don't think. Teddy seems to be wanting to be painted at the moment. So it kind of rubbed me the wrong way that Tamra was. As you said, it felt more like Tamara was squeezing this out for pity as opposed to truly honoring the vibe that Teddi wants.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like it said. And if you bring that up with your friends and you're like, you know, my best friend is. Got cancer and it's horrible, and everything she's going through is bumming me out. And of course people are gonna be. That's understandable. And of course your friends are gonna support you. It's just that Tamara's doing this because she knows she's in trouble, and this is. She always finds a thing to bring up. Yeah. It's like she's trying to use the victim cloak, and it's not even hers, it's somebody else's, you know, and it's just gross. It's annoying.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's using someone else's victim cloak, and that person themselves doesn't seem to even be using it, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Right. So it's like she left the chair and Tamara picked it right up and put it on. Like, I'll wear this.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You're not going to use it. I'll use it.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like someone rented a car. And then Tamara went and took the car and started driving it like it was her own. It's like, no, it's not your car to drive. And it's not even my car to drive. What are you doing?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Jen and Shannon are outside with I don't know who, And Gina's like, oh, by the way, I'm Gina, so I'm here to really start some shit. She's. Oh, no. Jen's like, Gina says that she thinks there's a fat photo going around. And Emma'. Oh, well, you're the one who knows. I mean, apparently Tamara had photos of Jen before, right? Heather. And Heather's like, oh, it was one. It was one. It was one.

[Ronnie Karam]

One. One photo. One photo we crushed was disgusting. It was some fat lady. So we put it in the ice cream machine and hoped it would go away forever.

[Ben Mandelker]

We Put it under the ice cream spout and just let Alfredo pour all the fatty things all over it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Fun fact. Alfredo went and made an ice cream out of Alfredo sauce. It was so meta.

[Ben Mandelker]

We said the. The fatty lady in the photo would probably call it a milkshake.

[Ronnie Karam]

We decided this year for Halloween, we're going to put up the picture of the fat lady on the window and scare all the children.

[Ben Mandelker]

What was the point of the photo? Photo to show that there was a fatty photo. That was the point. There was a fat person. It's in the name of the photo. It's a fatty photo to show there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Are very scary photos in the world.

[Ben Mandelker]

So to explain that you need different style of lenses for different styles of people. Fisheye.

[Ronnie Karam]

So wide lens cinema. It was demonstrate imax. The difference between. It was to demonstrate the difference between poor people fat and rich people skinny. That's it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I don't get the point of it. And she goes, well, you know what she said? Look at this photo. She looks so different. And I said, she looks cute. And I made it an all caps and elongated cute to make it sound fatter.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like when you see a fat baby, you say, oh, so cute. Because you know they will naturally lose that fat. So you find that process cute. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she showed you my fatty photo to be kind. No, no, no. It was more like you want to be her meaning, in case nobody understands what that meant. She meant like you were coming to the gym and you wanted to do a. A fitness thing with her and you spell it out from another person's view and you can kind of see what she's. And she's like, wait a minute.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wait, Heather.

[Ben Mandelker]

Heather.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What?

[Ben Mandelker]

Heather.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Heather.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, no, no, no, no. Look, it's not my fight. It's not my fight. I'm just telling you what you said.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

But you're about to tell me that you could see it from her perspective.

[Ronnie Karam]

Not her perspective from one's perspective, which is obscured by the fat person in the photo.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, all I'm saying is there's two sides to are both on one person, which creates a fatty photo.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm gonna have so many nightmares tonight. So Jen says, you know, she's like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You know, no, Heather's always going to go bad for Tamara because she's scared of her. That's the problem.

[Ronnie Karam]

Look, there's two sides everything, you know.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You, Heather, you were bamboozled.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm not familiar. I don't understand that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jen's just so funny, indignant. To me, it's cracking the air. She's like, heather, Heather, you have been bamboozled. No, not my fight. But you were about to say you could see it. Well, okay, okay, fine. And Shannon's like, well, I don't think Tamara does anything innocently. And Heather supporting Tamara right now is just hurting her.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And that is my opinion. Do you get it? That's a job from. It's a big thing. The taglines for me today. So, yeah, I did that bit with Earl, and he just. He just stared at me and told me that his former stepson still hasn't visited. And I thought, well, you're really taking the wind out of my sails. And he said, don't talk about wind because there's a hurricane coming to my house. I said, I can't really seem to do anything right. He said, you really can't. And it's been tough. It's been tough. But we went on another date after that.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jen says again, Heather, you are bamboozled.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That is. Is up.

[Ben Mandelker]

You don't do that to another woman. Well, you can if they're fatty. I'm just.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Hey. Hey. So what do you guys think? Just like you guys think they're just talking about me out there, huh? What do you think?

[Ronnie Karam]

Because one group's inside, one group's outside.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And Gina's like, well, every group that you're not in is talking shit about you. That's why when we're not in one group, I feel bad.

[Ben Mandelker]

So back to Heather. She's like, so you are upset? I didn't say that's fucked up. Well, I. I don't think it was presented that way. I think I was very non committal about the whole thing. Non committal.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, we are not going to adjudicate whether or not I was committal about the fatty photo. The horrifying fatty photo. So Jen goes, but you know her.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Undertone, the presentation doesn't matter.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, I like Jen, but is she taking up for me when Katie says something? Does she step in when Drake. Drake doesn't come over after my sixth invitation? Does she stick up for me? Does she advocate for me with Drake and the basketball player, what's his name? Bon Bon? I don't think so, homie.

[Ben Mandelker]

And not only do I not know, I don't care. She does it with that frown, teeth thing she does. She's like, I don't care.

[Ronnie Karam]

Which is exactly why I'm bringing it up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Katie, Gretchen, Jean and Tamara are inside. And Katie's like, did you ever talk to Jen And Tamara's like, well, I.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Went to lunch with her, and it went left so fast, she started calling me names, calling me, her, the horrible names.

[Ben Mandelker]

She goes, well, didn't you call her Single White Female?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Well, yeah, because she asked me, and I said, you're obsessed. You're reaching out to people who don't like me to build relationships with them.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Gretchen goes, like who?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She goes, like, you. Well, she needed consoling.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, you literally went out and told people the FBI raided Ryan, and.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I apologize for that. I mean, what's the big deal? What happened to the Times if you could just accuse someone of being raided by the FBI?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it was a simple sorry. That's all that required. Come on. And Gretchen's like, I feel like you're.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Not really ever learning your lesson. Like, you didn't, because you did the same thing to Ryan, and you do it all the time. You keep doing the same things over and over. Come on, Gretchen. I don't want to keep on going over the same old set forever. Like, he would text me for 12 years, scratching up head. I've been just so attacked. I'm so attacked.

[Ronnie Karam]

Started it.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Who?

[Ronnie Karam]

Who started it? That. Would you? Tamara. She's been on defense for 12 years. She hasn't been attacking. For 12 years, she's been on defense. Don't make me defend Gretchen on the same episode where we were pointing out that she's a transphobe. Homophobe. Okay? You know, do this to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like. It's like a fight of the asshole. It's like two assholes just going at each other. So Gretchen's like, you are actually delusional. And she gets up and walks off, and she's like, I'm gonna excuse myself.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Delusional. Literally delusional.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she goes outside to sit by the other one. She makes a big scene.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, can I sit by you guys? Because I don't want to sit by someone. Delusional.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did you just learn the word? You're really holding tight to that one.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, did you apologize for that Facebook comment? Because you should show that you're the bigger person. That's what I always do, which is why I really showed I was the bigger person with Katie earlier this season. Right? And Miracle remembers that moment.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So she's like, well, I always have to be the bigger person, and I'm over.

[Ronnie Karam]

Can we stop talking about this photo? It's disturbing enough that we had to look at it.

[Ben Mandelker]

We already have a bigger person in the room, and that's Jen. Jen, do you have anything to say?

[Ronnie Karam]

Jen, would you like to apologize to us for being fat in our presence?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It was a long time ago.

[Ben Mandelker]

The memory of it hurts. I just got an extended seatbelt for the memory of you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, Jen, when we leave this party, we're going to ask you to leave from that exit instead. That is the fat person exit. Thank you so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Gretchen's like, you can't reason with.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Someone whacked out in the head. I want to stoop to her level. That's what I want to do.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I hope all the gay and trans people in the world feel the same way right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they all go inside. I'm like, you guys want to see my ass?

[Ben Mandelker]

Not really. Luann just passes by. Not really.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, over the fence, like Wilson. Not really. Well, Ann, you're supposed to be hiding your face. I'm what? A cabaret star is supposed to hide her face behind the fence? I don't think so. Be cool.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Gina has gifts for everybody. So she hands them all gifts, and.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Then she's like, don't open them yet. I gotta do a thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she goes upstairs and hangs out a window, and she's wearing, like, a New Orleans, you know, costume, like a bunch of beads. And she's got a little horn. She's pulling a little horn.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's like, ladies, you know I'm no stranger to the magic, and I've had a magic experience for myself on the show since we're all talking about old clips today. So I think you guys are in need of voodoo. Help yourselves. I planned a trip to nola, and like, they like to say in New Orleans, don't forget to check your pockets.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she throws beads. And Tamara's like. So Tamara goes off with. She goes inside, because New Orleans, it's too much for her. It's too much.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What's in Mia. It's okay. It's okay. But I'll just talk about former fatty photos and going to the city of Fat Tuesday. It's too much, too much for me right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Guys, don't you understand? The last time Tamara was in NOLA was when Teddy fell down the stairs.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

They were marble. Marble stairs. Oh, my God. That's right. I remember my old house. I used to fall down the ladder to the second floor all the time. Oh, God.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Tamara's like, I'm just telling myself, she'll make it.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She'll make it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Gretchen's like, wow, she's really good.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

At playing the victim, huh?

[Ben Mandelker]

Gretchen not giving an inch. She's like, no, yeah, I will not accept your friend has cancer card. No, it is not accepted. Sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's not the hero we want, but she's the hero. We have to quote Batman. So Tamra and Sophia at home. So Sophia is looking at her Spotify stats, and she got a thousand monthly listeners, which is cool. And she wrote a song about a girl who met a guy online who ends up being cannibal. The song is accountable. The song is called the Love life of Erika Jayne. So congratulations.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, my God. She's gossiping. She's doing everything herself. I mean, look at this. Her face. The girl who writes a song about a girl falling in love with a cannibal.

[Ben Mandelker]

I won.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wasn't there a song about that? We are cannibals.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. Anyway, it doesn't ring a bell, but I'm sure there is. I love that she's got a stolen Cannibal song. She's like. She's just, like, taking really macabre ideas, but they've already been done.

[Ronnie Karam]

Everything's been done at this point.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna write a song about this hotel in California where everybody goes to die.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Tamara's like, could you make me a song?

[Ronnie Karam]

Sure. Is it called I think the bitch is Back? That's not a new song, but so he's like, no, you can't even sing. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna write you a song.

[Ben Mandelker]

We've already made you a song, and it's called hey Betch. And there will be no better Tamra song ever written than hey Betch. So it will be playing at the end of this episode. Thank you.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Hey, Batch. Hey, B.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we go to Katie and son being boring. I mean, they're boring. She's like, my son plays the piano. I don't care. And also, he makes his own songs, and they're not about cannibals. What a nerd.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, I love when the Housewives, when the producers are like, let's add some thematic parallels. In an episode, you have Sophia making songs on Spotify, and then you have Bandon making songs not on Spotify. Loser. Loser. Way to not get ahead in the business. Congratulations. Good luck making songs by yourself that go nowhere without Spotify. Dumbass.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, listen to your song on Nobody Heard it if I.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow. Please welcome Four time. Never had a Grammy, Never will. Loser. Bandon just Josh in.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Just a little baby.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we go to Emily and her family, and she's like, slopped some ground beef into a pan, is pushing it around. And so her son's like, what is that? And she goes, ground beef. I just got it out of my purse. You want to try it? And he's like, no, it looks weird. And then he runs off. She's like, oh, my God. He's got an eating disorder. You think his ground beef looks weird? Oh, my God. So she makes it another. Another scene with that.

[Ronnie Karam]

To be fair, that may be most people's reactions to Emily's pan of ground beef that she's working.

[Ben Mandelker]

They did not look appetizing. I can't imagine any kid walking in and seeing that in a pan and being like, delicious. Mom. Put it on. It's like raw beef.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes. Can I have a piece of that half cooked ground beef? It looked horrible.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, I can't believe he doesn't want to eat it. Shane, we need to do something. Emily, you're going. You're riding a little hard on this storyline.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Emily does. Emily has a conversation with Shane and you know, they're talking about how they're going to. They're going to find out where he is on the spectrum soon. So then we have Jen and Ryan at the gym and they're working on their. Their workout plan because they're going to get married. Are we going to see their wedding on the season? I feel like they're queuing it up, but there was no indication, I feel like anywhere that there's going to be a wedding.

[Ben Mandelker]

It doesn't feel like this Bravo wedding ever, because they're just going to be on a beach. So Done.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, done. So they're working out and Jen is saying that, like, a lot of women struggle with confidence and body image. So here, hearing that Tamara showing off a fatty photo of me is just gross. I mean, how old are you? I can't believe she's throwing a fatty, fatty photo. Big blubbery, fatty photo of me. Why do they keep saying fatty photo? They're saying fatty so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. It's cracking me up. So Brian's like, oh, sorry. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And by the way, I think we should also point out like a.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's just a photo. Like she's like a little heavier in the photo, but like, they make it sound one like she is in Gilbert Grape. And also, even if she were like, who cares? But like, they, they are. They really are acting like these are old problematic tweets that are going to get her canceled. Allah. Gretchen.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it's, well, doing it to be mean. Like, she.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I don't even like it. Look at this. She used to be fat.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, that's. Tamara is so disgusting. But the way that everyone's acting. You're right. And that's why we're laughing so much about it. Because like a fatty photo. You see the picture, it's like, what, you had a kid a month ago? Like, what are you talking about? About Jen has a perfect Barbie body. Like, nobody.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Only in Orange county would people be scandalized by somebody being a different weight at a different time. You know, it's so stupid.

[Ronnie Karam]

But also just the way that they're kind of like so insensitive about like, they're, they're horrified about it, but they're just the way that they keep saying, like, look at this fatty photo. I can't believe she's showing a fatty photo. Did you hear there's a fatty photo going around? And there's just like the way they keep saying fatty is like, it's just, it's so mean. And they just keep saying it over and over again in this. That with like clutching their pearls. I just, it's, it's, it's why this show is hilarious to watch.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So now they're talking about the kid situation and Ryan's like, yeah, you know, I'm just having a problem with your ex. I mean, it's problematic. This guy. It's been over a year. You know, the kids live with us, you've got a lump sum in your divorce degree. He hasn't paid a dollar towards. He doesn't pay them anything. And then we see Jeff Lewis show the biggest shit stir on this show these days. He's on his show, and he's like, so you got $500 in your divorce? And she's like, well, it's 200, but no, I have not received any of that. Okay, well, you get 6,000amonth in whatever. And she's like, well, unfortunately, he has not been able to make those payments.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So he did give me a bag.

[Ronnie Karam]

Of peppermint patties and says that this exonerates him from all obligations. And I did agree until Ryan said, this is not the same thing as $200,000.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And I said, you're right. You're absolutely right.

[Ronnie Karam]

So we gave him back the peppermint patties.

[Ben Mandelker]

Then Tamara cheered for me somewhere. I just felt Tamara cheering for me. She's like, you know, I just worry this situation is going to be a drag for Ryan. You know, I just don't want it to be a drag, because then he'll want fun, and then he'll leave me. What am I going to do? And so she's like, you know, at least we're communicating. And thank you for telling me how much it's bothering you, because to get the attention of my last husband, I'm to going. I mean, the only time I could even get his attention was to get naked. And then suddenly, the laptop would close and the AirPods would come out, and he's like, well, I definitely need to get some more AirPods.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bam.

[Ronnie Karam]

So there we go to Gina at Shannon's, and she's like, oh, my God, look, I brought.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I brought pizza. It's Gina's pizza.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ask me to borrow $20.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I just can't.

[Ben Mandelker]

The poor pizza.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

This pizza's styled so poorly.

[Ben Mandelker]

You brought me a pizza and the box says pizza?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That is so you. Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

How funny, because I remember walking down the streets of New York City eating pizza with hands and being a normal person. And did I ever get a box of Gina's pizza? I don't think so.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why do pizza boxes always say pizza? It's like you're the most obvious box box in the world. Like, no one is gonna think a pizza box is anything else. The only thing shaped like a pizza box is a pizza box. Okay. Yeah, you don't save yourself the font.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, it's like, oh, my God, did someone deliver me a Frisbee? I finally got A Frisbee. Oh, it's a pizza. I really need to write pizza on that so I don't get my hopes up.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I just ate a Frisbee.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gina is marveling at all of Shannon's plates.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wow. I've never seen so many plates in my life. It's like, so many plates, and they're.

[Ronnie Karam]

All made of middle.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that Gina, shocked by someone having different kinds of plates for different things. She's like, wow, none of those are people.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That's crazy. I feel bad for people. Please.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she asked Shannon how she's feeling.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's like, well, I'm alone, and I love it. I. It's just so crazy how much fun I'm having being all alone with none of my kids here to talk to me, no husband, nobody around trying to kiss me or make me feel good about myself. I'm just so happy. You know what I love about being alone is you just get to sit at home and think about how you went to some hotel once, and man after man after man came through that door and still couldn't find love. Oh, I'm happy. I'm a very happy person. At home alone. Home alone. Sometimes I just go. Go up to the bathroom and put.

[Ronnie Karam]

After spray on my cheeks and go.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wow, it's like Alister.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, home alone, kid was miserable. Look at his childhood. And he's even got a marriage.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So I'm so happy.

[Ben Mandelker]

So happy for him.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Sometimes I put all my jewelry out on a table and hope maybe two burglars will come by and. And visit. But nope.

[Ben Mandelker]

I wouldn't even make any.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I wouldn't even make any crazy traps.

[Ben Mandelker]

For them or anything.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I just.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would be the crazy trap.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You won.

[Ben Mandelker]

You won me, Steal me, take me away.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I did dangle myself from a rope.

[Ronnie Karam]

And hope that a burglar would walk in so it comes swinging at their.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Face like a paint can and just make out, but didn't really. No one ever opened that door.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I just dangled there for a whole afternoon.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Gina's like, okay, well, how you feeling?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And, well, you got a bunch of men. I don't know why you're upset. Oh, well, I've got Adam and Phil. They want to hang out with me.

[Ben Mandelker]

But they don't want to get into it with me.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So, yeah, I wasn't really listening. Can you believe Shannon? Can you believe that there's a form of fat photo of Jen?

[Ben Mandelker]

Former fatty photo say, oh, well, there's a hypocrisy there. She can dish it out, but she cannot take it. So Gina's like, yeah, she's not growing. She's mean. And so now we talk about Gina, and she's like, well, you know, like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

We'Re both working, and that's good, but, like, we haven't seen Travis's son for.

[Ben Mandelker]

Three weeks, and his ex stopped sending him to school. And I know it's because I sent. You know, it's a response to us moving in together.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So, like, I have.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, I feel bad about that, but.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, I don't know what to do.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, what is enough, enough here?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Well, I don't like to use the whole bottle. Oh, I. I thought you were talking about the hairspray that you've been using. Oh, no.

[Ronnie Karam]

That'S.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You're talking about your. This. This lady. Oh, yeah, it's very difficult. Yeah, it's, like, difficult to think that your choices are, like, either live apart and be happy or live together and pay a price with clean, or just.

[Ben Mandelker]

Live alone and have some poor person bringing you boxes that say pizza.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gina's like, yeah, but I'm, like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Not giving it up to someone who wants to take it. You know what I'm saying? I. I don't know what you're saying. Actually, do you think marriage will help? Do you guys want to get married? Because I would love to watch another.

[Ronnie Karam]

Divorce season for you.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Well, I don't know. Like, she just wants to mess it up. It's not bad. It's not cool. I feel bad.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she doesn't know if she can handle this the rest of her life, and she's definitely not having more children. And this does sound like hell. Oh, my gosh. Imagine.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, terrible.

[Ben Mandelker]

And the prize you get at the end of the day is Travis. I mean, no offense.

[Ronnie Karam]

And could you imagine? This lady is not sending the kid to school. We were just talking about this. What was it on. On unschooled.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unschooling. Yes, Unschooling your children. It's a thing. It's a thing that people do now. So Gina is packing with meatball.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I do like, meatball. Meatball. Did you fall?

[Ronnie Karam]

And then meatball's like, I did. Thank you for announcing that to. To America. It was a silent but deadly. But you just made it loud and deadly. And then Ryan is Ryan and Jenner packing. And Jen's like, what is Mardi Gras, by the way?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's just an excuse to get drunk and show boobs.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Ryan's like, can I come? So then Ryan's like, shane, yeah, it's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Where, you know, Mardi Gras happens, you know? You've heard of Fat Tuesday. How dare you, Ryan? How dare you bring that up right now? It's not the time.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Why would you say that?

[Ronnie Karam]

I hear there's photos. So I hear Tamara showing a photo of Mardi Gras around, just not right. Right.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we go to Shane and Emily being wacky, and he's like, I went to New Orleans once. We went into a voodoo shop. Pretty creepy. I love Shane. A little Mormon kid going into a voodoo shop, just still horrifying him to this day.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know Elmo's like, there are people in this group who are possessed. We can do an exorcism. And thankfully, we leave that scene. And then we go to Shannon and she's talking to. To her daughter and she's like, well.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Okay, I don't want any. I don't want to risk any negative voodoo shit coming inside me.

[Ronnie Karam]

And the daughter's like, oh, mom.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What? I just don't want anything coming inside me. I don't. Here's what I don't want. I don't want like a big explosion of who knows what. I don't want a big creamy voodoo moment that's gonna come right inside me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mom, you just. Please stop. Can we leave this FaceTime now?

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's airport time. So they're going and they have to do separate flights because it's not easy.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Getting all of these with a non.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stop, non stop flight with first clean us. Like, it's hard. It's like hard to get to bro to fly commercial, period. And Heather did look disgusted this entire trip.

[Ronnie Karam]

She just, you know, she had like a pack like, like, like 6 inches tall of like, wet wipes. She's like, hold on one second. Let me just wipe this down. Like, ma', am, don't worry. We. We cleaned down all the. Make sure this is Covid free. No germs. No, it's not germs. It's just poor oils. Poor people oils. Let's just wipe those all off. Thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they also call it first class, but it's like, it's one of the planes. It doesn't have true first class. It has the. Just like, slightly bigger seats, but that's it. You're still like, rammed in there. And I love that for heads.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Because it's not a transcon, A pure transcon flight. So it's also. It's only going from, like, LAX to New Orleans, only going halfway across the country. They don't get, like, the pods that you would if you're going from, like, New York to.

[Ben Mandelker]

But even though. Even the normal first class, like, even without all that, you know, the normal one has, like, the big, wide seats, like, with the thing in the middle and all that. They didn't even have that. They just had those, like, sad ones where you're like, oh, my God, I found first class for cheap. And then you get on there and you're like, oh, first class.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, comfort plus. But don't forget, Gina booked the tickets.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I feel the tickets.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're lucky they weren't sitting on those Spirit airline, like, bicycle seats and that they're making you do now.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're on Gina's Pizza Airlines. So they arrive.

[Ben Mandelker]

Heather is IFB Airlines.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I feel bad.

[Ronnie Karam]

Heather's, like, trying to do a bit. She's like, oh, my goodness. I love it. I love it. I love the poor people airlines. Do you guys have.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Have.

[Ronnie Karam]

What are they called? Pretzels. I would love one of those. Thank you so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

So one group gets on the plane. Meanwhile, the other group is in. Shannon is in a spanx store in the airport, and she's like, I have to go to the spanx store.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I wear Spanx every day.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm seeing if they have new stuff. So then Gina is talking about beads. Oh.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, oh, my God, they've got beads at the store.

[Ben Mandelker]

She goes, oh, yeah, you flash them for beads. If you come home with beads. I know what you're doing.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What?

[Ronnie Karam]

No, it was rhetorical.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What am I doing?

[Ronnie Karam]

It means you flash your boobs.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh.

[Ronnie Karam]

Anyway, we're staying in the same room, everyone, because we're like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

We're like Burton.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ernie, right?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Yeah, we're like Ernie, but I'm like, more like. I'm more like Bert, because I'm, like, more linear. I'm like, the linear one.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm like, like. I don't think that's the right use of linear, but sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also, you're calling her fat.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

What the. So what is with this show?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's like, I'm the more, you know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Linear one, and I'm always like, yeah, I'm the fat. The fat orange one. So then, now that I want.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, I was. I was saying I wouldn't want to be called the orange one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, the fat orange one. So, I mean, you're powerful. At least. You're powerful. You got a lot of power for.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

A couple of years.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know what you're talking about. I just. It's like, it's not my favorite color.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we go down, we go to the hotel. Gretchen, Katie, Gina and Emily are the ones that get to New Orleans. And so they walk around, they go to the water and they see stuff in the water. And Katie's like, is that an alligator?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And Gina is like, oh, my God, alligators live here. Oh, my God, what's this river?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Katie doesn't know. So she looks up the river and.

[Ronnie Karam]

Gina was like, none of them know. Gina calls the river the bayou. She thinks the bayou is just a B. Is a. Is a. Is the name of a river in America.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's the bayou.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's not even the bayou river.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

This is just what the bayou is.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're on literally the most famous river in the entire country. One of the most famous rivers in the entire world.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What is this? What river is this? Anyway?

[Ronnie Karam]

And by the way, when you go down, I'm like on one all of a sudden, when you go down to New Orleans, they're like signs everywhere. That's like, mississippi River, Mississippi River. Come board the Mississippi River Queen.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, where are we now? Why is this place? I'm confused.

[Ben Mandelker]

I like that. They go up and ask a local.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

They'Re like, what river is that?

[Ben Mandelker]

And he goes, it's just a river. He gets an X. And then Katie is like, no, no, it's a river. But it's called something. You guys, let me look it up. So she. I don't know what she does, but she still doesn't get it. And the producer tells her it's the Mississippi. She goes, well, I don't, I don't know about geography. God.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what? You don't have to know about geography, but at least be able to use Google Maps, please. Although actually, in defense. In defense, fence. Google Maps drives me nuts. Because how many times do you, like, look to see what the name of a street is and the name is not there and you have to, like, scroll all the way up the street because they decided to put the label elsewhere. And the label does not dynamically move down to where you're looking at that moment. That actually, actually drives me nuts. But it does not take away from the fact that they still should have known that that was the Mississippi River.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you're still dummies.

[Ronnie Karam]

Dumb, dumb people.

[Ben Mandelker]

On the plane, Heather is doing that standing up thing where she's talking to her friends standing up, because this is what you should be able to do on private church jets. So this is how the other half lives. Normal people.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, I Hate when people stand in the aisle to talk to their friends. I don't know why. It drives me nuts. They're always lingering over someone. They always have their hand on someone else's seat. Someone's probably trying to sleep nearby, and they're having a conversation, always dangling over. And when Heather does it, she really dangles over. She really gets that Coraline's mother dangle going, you know, and it's just. It's too much.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Shanna's being super wacky, and she's like, I'm putting stuff on my lips, and you want some. And Heather goes, oh, you want me to put nipple cream on my lips?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, it's nipple cream.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, God, I'm good.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You know, when you live alone, you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Know, you just sort of forget.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You forget what cream is for. What am I right? God, so many creams.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mother, please just stop. Stop talking. So Emily's like, oh, you know, I went horseback riding with Jen the other day, and she said that Shannon told her not to roll on her. And Tama's like, well, I wouldn't either.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Especially with that photo going around.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Emily's like, well, Shannon likes to have an ally. Says they're acting like they don't do this.

[Ben Mandelker]

Burton, Ernie, like, who's fucking talking? Look what happened the second Gina tried to hang out with anyone else.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

I can't believe you're leaving me for Other to bro. Enjoy your life with other to bro. I'm just gonna sit here and eat this fried chicken in my purse if we have to.

[Ronnie Karam]

If we have to sit through another season of Emily and Gina complaining to each other that they don't have each other's backs. Like, please.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Emily's like, why is it. Why is the opposite I. I keep telling everyone to do.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And Gina's like, well, we want everyone to get along. That's what we famously like. That's why every time. Every year when people tune in to see us, they say, like, let's watch Gina, Emily, and how they make sure that everyone gets along.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but they're also the couple that starts the most on the show. I mean, Tamara does, obviously, but they spread Tamara, you know, they're the Spreading. Like, Gina's. Gina started this whole Katie, you know, thing, the fatty photo things. I mean, they're starting. They start it. So Gina's like, yeah, we want everyone to get along.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, Gretchen, you. You. Like, we get. You got problems with Tamra.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Emily's like, we'll work our way up to that. That's a big one. That's a big one. And so Gretchen's like, yeah, you guys, you know what?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I'm praying about it a lot.

[Ben Mandelker]

I really am. I'm just asking Jesus to, like, change my heart. But she has to take accountability and document somewhere that she won't try to get a penis later because it's really important for the children of this country. And I'm all about forgiveness, but the Bible doesn't require you to reconcile with people who are trying to harm you. You. And that is called Wizardom. I was like, really?

[Ronnie Karam]

You did say wisdom, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

I rewounded five times and laughed and said stupid wisdom.

[Ronnie Karam]

She said wizardom.

[Ben Mandelker]

Dumb hooker ass. Gretchen.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God. Gretchen. Well, first of all, stop praying to God to find, like, some sort of forgiveness in your heart for Tamara. God created God, not Tamara's the devil. I don't think God wants you to be forgiving to the devil.

[Ben Mandelker]

God created the devil, too. Have you watched the nature show? Take a look at what God's created. Have you seen a lion eat a deer?

[Ronnie Karam]

God's also got other things to deal with. Not trying to help you reconcile or coexist with Tamra. So Gretchen's like, what's it gonna take.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

For that woman to stop spreading the lies?

[Ronnie Karam]

So now the other plane lands, and Jen has a lot of luggage, but Tamara helps her, which just goes to show that there's hope. And Jen says, you know, when Tamara is kind, it feels like she's, like my girlfriend again.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

But, like, something in my brain says, be careful because the other shoe will drop. No. Well. Cause your foot's too fat for my fatty hat. It's gonna be stuck on there for years. Yeah, Stop dropping shoes and start trying to drop some weight, bitch. So Shannon's like, well, my suitcase is wet. What is it rainy? Is this sweat? What is this sweat?

[Ben Mandelker]

And someone's like, it's sweat. She goes, oh, that is disgusting.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's just so wet. Everything is just so wet. It's just. I just can't. It's. You know, it's very exciting, but it's. I'm so excited about this trip that. Look, my case got wet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mother, I swear to God, if you do not stop talking on this episode, I am going to come down there and put some duct tape on your.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I had so much fun in New Orleans.

[Ben Mandelker]

The first thing I did, I was like, wow, this place is great. I'm wet.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wet as can be. Wet as a whistle.

[Ronnie Karam]

So we're. Heather's in a room. Champagne. Oh, look, look, I got myself champagne. That is so nice of me to give that to myself. Oh, I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just loved Heather walking around this tiny, dingy, dark room looking like. Trying to look like she was okay with it. It was so funny. She's like, look, I can walk from the bed all the way to the other end of the room by just taking one step. And there's champagne. I'm sure it's a delicious brand as well.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, they were in a Four Seasons, but I think Heather is like, yes, but we stay at the Five Seasons.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is a bit down market for us.

[Ben Mandelker]

It looked down market for Heather, that room.

[Ronnie Karam]

For sure. It did.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Shannon had to wacky trying to get her suitcase open moment. And Katie goes over to Jen's room and Tamara comes to Tamara's room. Gina comes to Tamara's room.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And Gina's like, come around to my room. I just wanted to come by your room and see how you dealing with everything. I'm dealing bad. Everybody's on me. Everybody. That is so mean to you, Tam. A poor thing. I am a poor thing. Let's give her. Get your hand off me. While you trying to be me. I am you now. You're not taking my stitch. Oh, my God. I just walked in on Tamara having a one woman show. Scary. How you doing, Tamra? She's like, I'm nervous. I have social anxiety and I have to have dinner with all these people.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Katie is saying, talking to Jen and she's like, you know, they brought up the pics of you again. You know, the fatty pics, the super, super fatty, fatty, fatty photos. And, you know, I just said it's unfair and, you know, to say that she's moving on. And then you bring out the fatty photos. Like, why would they just bring out Blubber 3.0 photos?

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jen's like, you know what we should do? Why don't we sit her down and just say, tamara, your apologies do not work anymore. They just don't work. And so we go back to Gina.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, yeah, let's have a good night tonight. Because that could spiral into more good night.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, oh, my God, you.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Made me feel so much better. Wow. Wow. How sad is it that I. I'm in a season where my only refuge is Gina.

[Ronnie Karam]

And that is sad. That's a sad place to be. So then we are in a car now it's. It's a little bit later, and they're in a car. Car, I guess going to dinner or wherever they're going. Lunch maybe. And Heather and Katie and Jen and Gretchen are in the car and Jen is like, well, we went on a riverboat today.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It was fun and peaceful.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, and now we're here. Went from one disgusting mode of transportation to another. Great trip, everyone.

[Ben Mandelker]

So in Shannon's van, Emily's like, hey, Shannon. And she lifts up her skirt and she's like, I'm not going to have to look at your vagranda the whole night. And Shannon just look are skirt all the way up and they blur out her vags.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And she's like, well, I guess I just put some.

[Ben Mandelker]

Some nipple cream on here accidentally. So.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

This is why you always have to stop by the spanx store in the airport. Because now I didn't get my spanx. And look, look what you see.

[Ronnie Karam]

Blur. So now they arrive at the restaurant and when they get there, the host is like, okay, everyone, I'm gonna show your table, but we're gonna pass the ghosts table first.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

The ghost.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, is that Gina Keough?

[Ronnie Karam]

No, she's still alive.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, it is the lady who is this lady who designed the swimsuits. No, it's not her either.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, is it. Is it the. The. Is it not. What was her name again? I wanted to say Vicky, but it's not Vicky. Peggy. Peggy. One and two. Is it a double ghost of both peggies.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, that reminds me. No ball in house. That reminds me. Where has Vicky been? She's not a friend of this season. Wasn't she here last year?

[Ronnie Karam]

She was here last year. Did we not see? Remember last year when she arrived in the middle of trip, she went in the door. Yeah, we haven't seen any Vicki. No Victoria so far.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nope. No Vicki so far. Okay, so not that I'm complaining, but. So then we get they. They're trying to guess who the ghost is. So then Shannon's like, well, I have heard ghosts having parties in my house at night. I hope they're having fun. Once I was upset in my kitchen, sitting there alone, thinking how happy I am. And a ghost just sat there and stared at me and ate chips very slowly.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Who are you gonna call? Anyone. Really? Anyone? Shannon Busters.

[Ronnie Karam]

So the host, she's has a very sad experience with that song.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

There's something strange in the neighborhood. Who are you gonna call? Many people. Because they don't answer the phones anymore.

[Ben Mandelker]

For me, it doesn't matter who I'd call. They won't answer. So the host interest the ghost table. And it's Pierre and Pierre was a resident owner in the 1700s. It was his grand estate. So I'm sure it was a very pleasant place. Like, just think of what was going on in the 1700s in this place.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah. You know who would love it? Thomas Ravenel. So, Heather, have some repression soup.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sounds delicious.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Yeah. So then Heather's like, oh, wouldn't it be fun to haunt Chateau Soup Dubro? See if they took my etched window down. See if they have rounded. See if they put. See if they ever let Richard Marks out of the basement. Oh, it would be so hilarious. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Joe will be right with you. And Gina's like, wait a minute.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Is Joe with us, or is he, like, a ghost, too? Because, like, I don't know if I want, like, a waiter. That's a goals. Because, like, that would mean that the weight is probably, like, invisible, right? Like, how's he gonna carry a dream? I'm like, hilarious.

[Ronnie Karam]

I have a question about the turtle soup. Is that actual turtle, or is this, like, how when we say Wendy Malik has a career? Technically, yes, I guess it's a career, but we all know it's not really a career.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And Tamara's like, you're not eating a turtle. Come on. And she was like, I'll try the turtle soup. Because, like, I like to try things where we are.

[Ben Mandelker]

And also, I get turtle sou sometimes in my backyard. And you never know when you're gonna.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Need to feed the kids.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow, Gretchen, you look like you're the detective emoji because you're wearing a fedora.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And Tamara's like, oh, God, another Gretchen costume. You know, she went on, she in and searched rich detective, and for 15 bucks, this is what she got. Ha. Bern.

[Ben Mandelker]

So do you have to travel from Skylar? Because one thing I regret is not traveling more without the children. Okay, by the way, who. Who's with your children? Jen. And she's like, well, Ryan. I mean, they're supposed to be with Will, but that's not really working out. She's like, how do. How do him and Ryan interact? And she says, well, they usually don't, but they did today because Ryan had the kids, and he went to. Went up to. To the ex, and he said, how could you do this? Pay your child support? And Will said, he does the best he can. You know, he pays the driver's insurance. And, you know, he said he's on the loan for Harrison School. He's one of 10 people. But, yeah, so that was his defense.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Jen tells us that, like, Will's very controlling and, like, by Ryan, like, confronting Will. Will's probably going to retaliate by blocking her and make life hard, etc. So Emily's like, well, if he's. If he's ordered to pay support for it, he has to pay it, God damn it. And Katie's like, I just feel bad for Ryan. Matt has been in the same spot, you know, and she talks about custody issues and everything.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And he was like, you know, it's hard to sit back and be the person to do nothing. Like his. Travis's ex was contacting my child and my ex husband, and I haven't seen his steps on in a month. And he's like, not at school.

[Ronnie Karam]

Outrageous that we're letting this poor woman talk so much at the dinner. This is. You're only allowed to have five minutes, Gina.

[Ben Mandelker]

Emily's like, I'm a lawyer. He should be in front of a judge. So Heather, one of the waiters, comes behind Heather and spills a drink on her. And I died. I mean, this is. This trip is hell for Heather. Heather is hating every second of this fucking trip. But did she stand up into the waiter's drink? It looks like she was standing and that's why she got spilled on. Right?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Or was she because he got spilled on.

[Ronnie Karam]

I watched it several times because what you first see is that the waiter's putting down, like, an espresso martini, and then it, like, knocks over. But then Heather stands up after that and then winds up wiping her back. I think what happens is he had a tray of espresso martinis, and as he's leaning forward to put down one, the tray tilted and they fell on Heather's back, which startled him, which is why the one on the table, he shook it because he's like, oh, shit. So all we do lots of spilling. I think that. I think the spill we saw was actually the secondary spill, and that there was a main spill that happened on Heather's back, which is sad that we didn't get to see the full view of it, but great knowing that a service person spilled a cocktail down Heather de Bro's back. Oh, my God, that person.

[Ben Mandelker]

And no one ever seen Joe again.

[Ronnie Karam]

Fed to the fed to the alligators in the Mississippi river, which turned out to be just logs.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sorry. Can we have him replaced with an Alfredo?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, at least if they're gonna spill on me, at least they spilled with my own glassware that I sent ahead of me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I tried to bring Alfredo, but he got lost in the luggage. So Jen's like, oh, my God. For all of the people for the ghost to spill on. I mean, that cost more money than my whole month's reaction rent before I got evicted. I mean, that. That happened.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

How could you get evicted when I'm the realtor?

[Ronnie Karam]

So Emily is like, okay, well, Tamara, you and Gretchen really need to have a sit down.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And she's like, yeah, I'd rather talk to Jen. Okay. All right, go in chronological order, but, like, not tonight, because tonight we're gonna have fun. All right.

[Ronnie Karam]

As the food comes, they like the turtle sound soup. Because turtle soup's good. I had it once, like 10 years ago. I enjoyed it. It's fine. And then just in case anyone wanted an express culinary review on turtle soup, that's my thought.

[Ben Mandelker]

Flash review by Ben.

[Ronnie Karam]

Flash review.

[Ben Mandelker]

I like turtle soup. All right, so, Shannon.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey, turtle soup not so bad. Moving on.

[Ben Mandelker]

They start talking about Shannon getting a missed call from Adam. And Jen's like, okay, Shannon, if you could create a man on a vision board, what would you put? Well, first of all, a man.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Any.

[Ben Mandelker]

Any man, really.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I don't.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't care. A man with vision. I don't even care, really. Whoever you want.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Yeah. I don't know if you guys know this, but earlier this evening, Slimer came.

[Ronnie Karam]

To my room, and I thought, honestly.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I would date him. A little messy, but gives me something to do. Clean up after him.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I've got one. Would you date a short guy?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Hello.

[Ronnie Karam]

That was very personal.

[Ben Mandelker]

It wasn't. It wasn't. Terry's worn lifts for years. Oh, God, he's got lifts. They're from China. And his shoes are high and very highly priced, so he probably won't be getting any more anytime soon.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, Shadow, you have a bevy of men. Okay? A bevy.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Well, they don't want to be intimate. They're just friends. They're friends, and most of them are ghosts.

[Ronnie Karam]

At this point, it's been an issue.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's very hard to make out with someone when they have no corporal presence.

[Ronnie Karam]

Someone's like, well, I can't even imagine being single. The only thing that's worse than a fatty photo is a single photo. Am I right, everyone?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, you have to give blowjobs and get on top again. I don't do that. I like it from behind so I can watch TV. I like watching my 600 pound life while I'm getting banged. If I could add snacks, I would because I'm wacky.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Well, how about you, Dabrow?

[Ronnie Karam]

How about me? What Are you gonna weigh in on this? I'm sorry, I'm just thinking about the many sternly worded letters I'm gonna be writing to the management of this restaurant for having an espresso martini trickling down my back for the rest of this evening. Continue on without me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm just thinking £600. How many gens was that?

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, that's. That's like two maids right there.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Emily. So Gina's like, oh, I know she likes being on. And Emily says, okay, yeah. She's probably like, oh, yeah, Terry, tell me about your stock portfolio.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Talk about stuff was like, I want videos. I never ever made a sex video. Ever have you. And just want everyone to know that if you have made a sex video, you do not count as an actress. Just want to say some ground rules right away.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I don't know if you would count this one where I just got basically espresso martinis bukhaki by Joe. And Shannon goes, well, I'm sure Katie has sex videos because she records. That's what she does.

[Ronnie Karam]

The Katie's like, you're right. She goes, well, it's something for her to talk about. Bonnie rape.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

But my favorite position is on this side, cuz, so I could go to bed. I'll show you. Let's get down on the floor.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's, I guess on the floor. And she's like emulating having sex on the floor of a nice restaurant where I was like, ugh, if only the. That careless waiter could come back and spill an entire tray on her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Joe, the waiter is upset. He looks very upset that they're fucking on the floor. And Jen's like, well, you know that my vagina, it doesn't work.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

June's like, oh, my God, your vagina is broken.

[Ben Mandelker]

And jam was like, yeah, the holes.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Those closed up, right, with the laser thing, what you do to it?

[Ben Mandelker]

And she goes, it was pelvic floor surgery. It's. It's literally right now, it's just a tip. Just a tip goes in there.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's like that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kitty'S like, her mouth must be tired.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Guys, I'm having so much fun. But, like, some of us have our differences. But, like, I'm happy that you're all here and we're having the best time ever. Friendship, friendship, friendship.

[Ben Mandelker]

And 24 hours later, you're the.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

The leak. Stop lying. I cannot stand you.

[Ben Mandelker]

You are the worst person in the world. You were spreading around fatty pictures.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

None of this is your business. You're Rude. And you're slos. She's. She's losing her mind. I'm out of here.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm out of person. Poor person.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And Gina says, oh, my God, you guys.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Tamara just quit the show.

[Ronnie Karam]

Such a funny episode. Such a good season. Thank you, everyone, for being here. Hope you all have a tremendous weekend. If you're in New Orleans, I hope you survived having these people in your town. So, thanks, everyone. Have a great weekend, and we'll see you on Monday. Bye for crappy hour.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Bye. Walk into the club.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everybody say my name. Walk into the mall and say.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Everywhere I go, people holler Every day I raise my hands up and holler back. Hey, batch. Hey, batch. Hey, batch.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you don't know me, you're welcome to blow me.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Batch. Hey, batch. Hey, batch. Every day's a parade. Don't even try to shade. Magazines are blogs.

[Ben Mandelker]

When a Facebook admits that I ruled them all. Cause when I play, I went duh. People magazine called and said I'm debate.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Asked me lots of questions I answered everyone Headbutts, headbutts, headbutts.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pretend not to love me but don't.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Think you're above me. Bats. Headbutts, headbutt.

[Ben Mandelker]

You could try to hate me but life celebrates me.

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Always a good time when you're wasting time with Bravo she ain't no shrinking violet Coutar. We love you guys. If you like, watch what crappens. You can listen ad free right now by joining Wondery in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcast Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short [e-mail] survey.