#2971 RHOC S19E06 Part 2: New OLA, Old Tricks

Summary

Watch What Crappens #2971 – RHOC S19E06 Part 2: New OLA, Old Tricks

Podcast Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode Date: August 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie plunge into the chaos of Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19, Episode 6, Part 2. The focus? Tamara’s crumbling attempts to stir up past drama, a messy “roofie” rumor, shifting loyalties, and the group’s collective meltdown during a voodoo workshop in New Orleans. This recap is a hilariously unfiltered roast of the cast's antics—both past and present—with Ben and Ronnie gleefully skewering everyone’s motivations, failures, and a parade of feeble manipulations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Return of "Naked Wasted" and the Roofie Rumor

Timestamp: 03:00 – 13:31

• Tamara’s Spinning the Past: The hosts hilariously dissect Tamara’s attempt to reframe the infamous "naked wasted" party, where Gretchen was intentionally given too many shots and Tamara’s son hit on her in a bathroom.
  • Quote (Ben/Ronnie, 05:30):
    “You purposely got her as shit-faced as possible then sent your fucking disgusting piece of shit son into the bathroom to try and like, fuck her… basically tried to get your son to kind of sexually assault Gretchen in a bathroom. You disgusting fucking pig.”
• Telephone Game of the Rumor: Tamara claims Katie told bloggers Gretchen said Tamara “roofied” her.
  • Ben and Ronnie point out that Tamara is purposely muddying the waters to pit Gretchen against Katie, but the rumor isn’t even that gripping and mainly serves to dredge up Tamara's own ugly history.
• Gretchen’s Perspective:
  • Gretchen is confused by the accusation, stating, “Supposedly Katie said this—but I don’t believe that… ask her tonight.” (08:01)
• Hosts’ Take:
  • The rumor is a weak manipulation, backfiring heavily on Tamara, who ends up looking desperate and out of touch.

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2. Voodoo Workshop Mayhem

Timestamp: 13:31 – 16:27

• Arts and Crafts with a Voodoo Kick:
  • The cast partakes in a voodoo-themed arts and crafts event, led by “Mary the bloody Mary,” that devolves into giggles, accidental pricks, and doll-baptizing.
• Highlights:
  • “Okay, it’s a boy. I baptize this basic little baby. Hold it tight. I’m gonna slap it. Boo. I eat Boo. I eat bobo…” (Heather, 14:27)
• Comic Relief:
  • Jen: “I put a pin in my voodoo doll and I felt bad about it. But then what was worse is my voodoo doll said, I feel bad.” (16:01)

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3. Shaky Reconciliations and Schemy Motivations

Timestamp: 16:27 – 21:31

• Tamara’s Alliance Plots:
  • Tamara attempts to cozy up to Gretchen and Shannon with over-the-top gestures ("I’d love to be friends with you. Maybe one day I can give you back your V advice.” 16:29)
  • The hosts note Tamara historically lulls people into thinking she wants peace before twisting things again.
• Shannon’s Skepticism:
  • Shannon, unconvinced, hilariously disputes Tamara’s sincerity: “I am not jumping back into a situation where we are brushing each other’s hair and braiding it… but, yes, Tamara, you can brush my hair.” (20:41)

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4. Car Rides & Cross-Talk

Timestamp: 23:13 – 27:42

• Split Car Gossip:
  • As the cast splits into cars heading to dinner, they continue dissecting the rumor web. Gretchen and Katie discuss whether the roofie accusation ever happened; Katie denies it. (26:14)
  • "She’s trying to get Gretchen to turn against Katie... but it’s not even that strong to turn someone against someone," Ben remarks. (11:04)
• Host Commentary:
  • The “attempted manipulation is so convoluted even the women can’t keep it straight"—a point hilariously emphasized by Ben and Ronnie’s repeated summaries of the rumor’s nonsensical journey.

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5. Dinner Meltdown: Group Dynamics Implode

Timestamp: 31:04 – 44:43

• Tamara’s Plans Failing Spectacularly:
  • At dinner, Tamara expects someone else to confront Katie, but is left twisting as her manipulative efforts sputter amid mounting confusion.
  • Host zinger: “She’s doing a bad job, and it’s just not like Tamara… are you on Xanax?… you’re not even being a horrible person well today!” (43:21)
• Gina and Heather Call Out Tamara:
  • Gina bluntly tells Tamara, “You’re being rude and you’re sloshed,” sparking a mini-intervention where Tamara is accused of being too drunk to deal with the group. (45:01)
• Tamara’s Meltdown:
  • Feeling isolated, Tamara leaves the dinner table in a huff à la Bali, with Ben narrating her spiral: “Plan A, failed. Plan B, fail. Even Heather turned on me. What do I do from here?” (46:54)
  • Quote: “She’s just been nice to Gretchen… Everybody knows it. They shouldn’t even call the episode Naked Wasted. They should have called the episode ‘at least someone brought you a sweater after wasted.’ And that person was me.” (51:23)

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6. Out-of-Control Group Accusations

Timestamp: 36:01 – 53:15

• Shannon’s Over-the-Top Outrage:
  • Shannon explodes at Katie, accusing her of hurting the entire table: “Every single person at this table except Jen, you have hurt. And Jen is already hurt because there’s a former fatty photo of her.” (36:25)
• Katie’s Nonchalance:
  • Katie, unbothered, shrugs off the attack: “Oh, my God, Shannon. Whatever.” (35:58)
• Hosts Analyze Motivation:
  • Ben speculates Shannon wants Tamara to look better by making someone else the villain: “She needs to make somebody worse than Tamara, you know, so that Tamara’s not the bad one so she can be friends with her.” (37:58)
• Absurdity Accumulates:
  • Jen demands closure: “Let’s just all have it out then. Where’s the picture, Tamara? Leave my picture... the former fatty photo. The thing that everyone’s been talking about.” (41:48)

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7. The Final Straw: Tamara Quits—Again

Timestamp: 52:24 – 55:15

• Tamara’s Dramatic Exit:
  • After being dog-piled, Tamara flees, angrily summoning Eddie for a flight home and declaring her resignation in an Instagram post: “When life gives you real problems, this reality shit doesn’t make sense. Peace out. I’m out.” (54:06)
• Cast’s Reaction:
  • Gina: “She quit. Former fatty photo was bad enough.” (54:13)
  • Hosts chortle over Tamara’s “classic move” to dramatically quit when cornered: “That was just totally a Tamra move where she gets caught and she runs like hell.” (54:36)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Tamara’s Convoluted Manipulations:
  • “This is a naked man. You know, not that she could get naked, but just, you know. Cause, you know, naked waisted, like, truth. Naked truth.” (Gina, 05:00)
  • “This woman who’s sitting here looking like she has a plastic pumpkin from Hot Spirit Halloween store taped to her face is going to talk about authentic people. No, I’m not. I’m not going to take that.” (Heather, 07:19)
• On Group Loyalty Shifts:
  • “She is not rolling over, and she is not gonna come jumping back into her friendship with Tamara. Hell to the no.” (Shannon, 19:20)
• On the Voodoo Workshop:
  • “I baptize this basic little baby. Okay, hold it tight. I’m gonna slap it. Boo. I eat Boo. I eat bobo.” (Heather, 14:27)
• On the Dinner Table Insanity:
  • “You got one eye open. You got no idea what’s going on.” (Gina, 45:33)
  • “She’s been marinating in Tamara juice on her way here. She’s, like, shown up ready to rumble.” (Heather, 30:28)
• On Tamara’s Exit:
  • “Plan A, failed. Plan B, fail. Even Heather turned on me. What do I do from here? You will never see me again.” (Gina, 46:54)
  • “She really posted that?... She quit. Former fatty photo was bad enough.” (Gina/Jen, 54:09)

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Episode Structure (with Timestamps)

| Timestamp | Segment Summary | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:00–13:31 | Naked Wasted recap, roofie rumor escalation, Tamara's failed spin attempts | | 13:31–16:27 | Voodoo arts and crafts scene—comic relief amidst group tension | | 16:27–21:31 | Tamara placates Gretchen & Shannon, faux-repair of alliances | | 23:13–27:42 | Car ride cross-talk, continuing rumor confusion, Gretchen & Katie's chat | | 31:04–44:43 | Dinner scenes: Tamara's manipulation unravels, group turns on Tamara, chaos peaks | | 36:01–53:15 | Shannon's attack on Katie, group pile-on, absurd finger-pointing, Jen’s photo drama | | 52:24–55:15 | Tamara's dramatic walk-out, attempted quitting, the cast’s gobsmacked reactions | | 55:15–56:09 | Hosts debrief: Everyone finally calls out Tamara, rare group unity, what's next? |

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Takeaway & Tone

Ben and Ronnie deliver their classic, biting RHOC commentary—keenly aware of every hypocrisy, double standard, and clumsy power play in the franchise. This episode is a master class in Housewives group dynamics: as Tamara’s old tricks wear thin, everyone—from Shannon to Gretchen—finds themselves drawn into, and finally rejecting, her toxicity. The recap is rich with belly laughs, outrageous analogies, and withering impressions—the perfect primer for anyone who skipped the episode but craves the mess and humor that only Bravo (and Crappens) can deliver.

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Listen for:

• The real LGBTQ+ villain origin story of “Naked Wasted”
• Tamara’s increasingly desperate strategies and crumbling house of lies
• The tightrope walk between alliance-building and sabotage
• A rare RHOC moment: The entire cast unites… against Tamara

Crappens gold, through and through.

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[Shannon Beador]

Who cares what happens when there's so much what happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. I do remember as a kid asking my parents if we could ever go to Meepos. I was like, can we go to Meepos? And my mom was like, where's that? I was like, that's where Balki is from. My mom was like, who?

[Jen Armstrong]

I was like, balki Martin.

[Shannon Beador]

Basically. You know, I think I was my mom's Heather Dubrow. Guys, let's Just. Let's just. I am not familiar. Balky bar, tuckless.

[Heather Dubrow]

Sounds poor. No, we cannot.

[Shannon Beador]

Is he on TV land? Getting back to this, Katie said I.

[Heather Dubrow]

Told her that I roofied you. Okay? And so Shannon's like, are you kidding me?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She said that you what? Now we add Gretchen to the list.

[Heather Dubrow]

Another person victimized by Katie.

[Jen Armstrong]

She is saying that you make Gretchen's roof when we all know that Gretchen built her roof herself. No, Shannon, that's not what that means.

[Shannon Beador]

No, no, but here's what I was going to say. Tamara has heard from someone who has heard about this conversation that Katie is relaying. Is it possible in somewhere along the way that details were blurred or relayed improperly or heard improperly? Like, is it possible that Katie said to Kiki something like, oh, yeah, Gretchen was telling me how Tamara tried to get her wasted, you know, so that way she'd, like, get blackout or something.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah. And Tamara twisted and then like.

[Shannon Beador]

And then someone says this, sort of rephrases that and tells it to Tamra. And then now it's at roofie level because that's what this all is about. And Tamara is always. Always claims like, oh, well, you misheard. Or it wasn't really like that. When Tamara is the queen of taking a shred of something and spinning it out of control and making it sound like it was something else entirely.

[Heather Dubrow]

This is Janet.

[Jen Armstrong]

Every single time.

[Heather Dubrow]

It's a Janet move. It's a classic Bravo move. She's, like, pulling it. Well, I mean, I guess Janet took it from Tamra first, so it's like a Tamra that Janet took that Tamara is taking back now. But, yeah, it's a typical thing. Like, Gretchen probably talked about naked wasted. And Tamara's like, oh, now she's accusing.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Me of roofing her.

[Heather Dubrow]

You know, it's like, no, but. And we know that that's what it's about because Tamara tells US she's like, 17 Tamara. And this is Tamara's history, you know, she's like, let me just rephrase this history. Let me reframe it, because it was fucking horrible. So let me just remind the audience what a Not a big deal this.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Was 17 years ago. Me and the girls would see how great Gretchen outwasted. But then when we were together, she was so prim and proper. So I had a party, and me and Vicky were joking, and we said, let's get Gretchen wasted. Naked wasted, so we could see the real Gretchen. That's that man. This is a naked man. You know, not that she could get naked, but just, you know. Cause, you know, naked waisted, like, truth. Naked truth. So then, like, what a nice. Wasn't it? Was it nice of us to do that? No, but that was it. Nothing more than it.

[Heather Dubrow]

No, that was not it. You got Gretchen over there, applied her with shot after shot. You didn't force her. I mean, she did drink on her own, but you purposely got her as shit faced as possible, then sent your fucking disgusting piece of shit son into the bathroom to try and like, fuck her so that she would. You would have evidence against her with her old man that she was dating at the time, which could have led to sexual assaults. And thank God Gretchen was strong enough at that point to back that fucker off. And it was all on microphone. But you basically tried to get your son to kind of sexually assault Gretchen in a bathroom. You disgusting fucking pig. So for you to bring that up now and act like everybody's being so dramatic all these years later when basically. Not basically anything. You're guilty. You are guilty, ma'.

[Jen Armstrong]

Am.

[Heather Dubrow]

But we're disgusting.

[Shannon Beador]

What's actually so funny to me? And by the way, we re. We recently rewatched Naked Wasted because we recapped it. I like either actually a few years after our last tour, like, but two years ago, we watched it and was still. Like, it was as wild as we remembered it. Like, it holds up. But what's so funny is even if you just take Tamra, like, just what she says here, just take out everything you just said. Like, let's just see. Let's just take her defense right here. Like, oh, we would see, like, Gretchen out and about, and she'd always be drunk, and then she'd actually, like, act prim and proper around us on camera. And we're like, we want to show the real Gretchen. Are people not allowed to get wasted at night at a bar? And then if they show up for work on camera, for the nation to be like, I'm gonna try to, like, actually get my shit, keep my shit together and actually try to, like, represent myself. Well, it was like this defense that she's like, that's all we were doing. I was like, you trying to expose, like, what you perceive as the real Gretchen is actually such a vicious, nasty thing that you're doing. And you're being like, whatever. We're just trying to expose the truth. Like, you're the liberator. Like, you're the truth teller. You're the. Who has to champion authenticity. This woman who's sitting here looking like she has a plastic Pumpkin from Hot Spirit Halloween store taped to her face is going to talk about authentic people. No, I'm not. I'm not going to take that. Just, we don't have to go back to naked wasted.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So Gretchen's like, hell, no, I didn't say that.

[Heather Dubrow]

So she's like, I'm trying to comprehend this. I mean, supposedly Katie said this, but.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I have this weird feeling in the back of my mind. I'm trying to consider the source. It's telling you that she said this.

[Heather Dubrow]

And I'm like, yes, Gretchen, duh. Like, you're immediately gonna sit down and believe Tamara. I mean, I hope that not even you are that dumb, you know? So she's like, yeah, I don't believe that. And Shannon's like, okay, well, then ask her tonight. And Tamara's like, well, I got told.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I got told by two people.

[Heather Dubrow]

Who are your people, Tamara?

[Shannon Beador]

Once again, Tamra.

[Jen Armstrong]

Tamara, that's like, you be going to talking to bloggers.

[Shannon Beador]

A. Not only are you one of the bloggers, part of the ecosystem of content creators. Bravo. Content creators. That we're all part. But you talk to two other people. Like, it's like, how do you not see how. Like, why is it, like. Like, Katie is not allowed to, like, be a little messy on the side with content creators, but then, like, but you are. I just don't understand this. Like, just. I just say all of you just get messy and just have fun with it.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, that's.

[Shannon Beador]

With all this, like, sanctimonious, like, how could you. You're like, how could you. How could you betray the circle in this way? Kind of.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous. So Shannon's like, well, I mean, just.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Put the recording aside.

[Heather Dubrow]

Forget the recording front.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I am livid over this. I have something new now. And.

[Jen Armstrong]

How.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Dare you? How long have you been holding on to that, Tamara?

[Heather Dubrow]

How long?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, four weeks.

[Jen Armstrong]

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You had to hold on to that terrible information that Katie said that Gretchen.

[Shannon Beador]

Said, by the way, even holding on to this information, which is that, what is Tamara upset about? Is she upset about that Gretchen said it to Katie? Is she upset that Katie said this to Kiki? I don't understand what it is.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, I don't either. But this never came out. So Kiki never said anything and Katie never said anything. The only reason this is coming out is because Tamara's bringing out. So if Tamara's bringing it out, she's doing it on purpose. So why is she making Gretchen think that the Rumor is that Gretchen was roofing, but who. How's that going to make Gretchen look bad? It still only makes Tamara look bad. Like, why is she bringing that out? Because, you know, there's people who are like, well, did she roofy her? You know, like, I don't really get Tamara's motivation in this, and I think Tamara is kind of losing her touch because she used to be very good at manipulating everybody and getting stuff out there, but this isn't even a good one.

[Shannon Beador]

Like, well, she's trying to get Gretchen to turn against Katie. She's trying to be like, hey, just so you know, this person that you're standing. Standing up for, that you said has never done anything to you, she's going around telling people of the media that. That you are making claims about roofies. But, like, it's even. That's like. Like it's just not the strongest, like, turn. Like, loyalty shifting rumor. Like, you should be horrified to know that someone's saying that you're accusing me of roofing. And I know you would never make an accusation like that. So she's saying you would make an accusation that's way more exaggerated than what happened. Like, it's not. Not even that strong to turn someone against someone and confess it is very confusing. Yeah. I can't even say it straight without having to, like, double check that I'm saying it right.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah. So, like, what's the motivation? So, Katie. So I'm going to get you mad because Katie told a blogger something that you said in private, but then that's like, well, did. Wouldn't her first question be like, did I roofie you? I don't know. This whole thing is crazy. And I don't like why Tamara is even bringing this up publicly, because it only makes Tamra look bad because it brings back naked wasted, which I know that she thinks she can reframe, then that everybody's stupid, and it's too long ago that no one's going to remember that she tried to have her son attack Gretchen or whatever happened there, which that's not really far from the truth. It was a pretty gross episode. So she's. Tamara's just making herself look bad. Like, how badly are you losing your touch here?

[Shannon Beador]

She's just. She's not being patient. That's her problem. Because normally she's patient, and she waits for. For Katie to slip up and say something about Gretchen, and that's why she's. Anytime. I think she's been nice to Katie. She's just been trying to get Stuff that she can use against her. And she just hasn't been able to get anything where she can say to Gretchen, hey, Katie said this about you. So the best that she has is Katie said that you said this thing about me, which is a gross exaggeration. And now you should be mad that she mischaracterized the way you used. Said that I treated you strong enough.

[Heather Dubrow]

But it does make me wonder, because Gretchen did drink that night. Like we saw. We just recapped it. So she did have a lot of shots and stuff that night that they were feeding her. But why would Tamara say she said I roofied you? Because there's no way to go back and prove that Tamara didn't roofie Gretchen. And if she did. If she. If Gretchen did say that Tamara roofied me, I would believe it, because she was completely out of it that night. So why would Tamara put that in people's heads is what I'm saying. There's no way to prove that Tamara didn't roof. Roofie the girl. So it's just, like, a very sloppy thing for Tamara to put out there to the public. Because if Gretchen said, Tamara roofied me that night, I believe her.

[Shannon Beador]

But she also would have said it. And she mentions this. She's like, it's been 12 years. I would have mentioned it by now. She's like, I'm not above men. I'm. I'm Betty.

[Heather Dubrow]

I will do this.

[Shannon Beador]

I. I responded to your daughter's Facebook thing. Like, if. You know, if. If I could have done this, if I could have accused you of roofing me, I would have.

[Heather Dubrow]

Or is she trying to trick Gretchen into saying what you did that night wasn't that bad, and it's no big deal. I never would have said Roofy, because then that gets Tamara kind of off the hook for that night. I just. I'm just trying to understand motivations. That's making me crazy.

[Shannon Beador]

No, I think. I don't think. I think the motivation. I think it's truly that some. I think I believe that it was the. The comments started off like, tamara got me blackout, and Katie says blackout and black. The. I think black something like blackout, or I couldn't remember anything, and Tamara did this to me. And then somehow it gets back to Tamara, and. And either Tamara hears Roofy or someone says roofie, but, like, to me, it's, like, very obviously a game of telephone, and it's silly. So back in. Back in the voodoo parlor, they all are sitting around a table where there's a. There's A, they're all doing arts and crafts. Their voodoo, the voodoo things. And Mary, the bloody Mary is like, okay, everyone pick up your doll, and I'm going to do a group zap. And then an individual waking. Is Zach a part of voodoo? Is that like.

[Heather Dubrow]

Why are you asking me? I don't fucking know.

[Shannon Beador]

We're gonna give Zack, everyone.

[Heather Dubrow]

We're gonna get Tamara's evil infinity stone. Bring these things to life. Hold us still. Hold us still. And Katie's like, it's a him, actually. She goes, okay, it's a boy. I baptize you in the name of. What's his name? Matt. Okay, basic. I baptize this basic little baby. Okay, hold it tight. I'm gonna slap it. Boo. I eat Boo. I eat bobo. I eat bobo. Okay. Okay. I eat bobo. That's kind of like amen, Hallelujah. But it's in voodoo. Okay.

[Shannon Beador]

By the way, there is something called zaps Voodoo potato chips. So maybe that's where she got it. Okay, everyone, we're gonna have potato chips after this.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I'm in. Okay, I'm back. I'm back.

[Shannon Beador]

Oh, I like to be spanked. This is fun. Just stay away from the face. I don't want to have another surgery. And neither does my doll. So Mary's going around baptizing all the dolls and everything. She's like, I baptize you in the name of Gina.

[Jen Armstrong]

I feel mad. I feel bad Ties. And Gina's like, I'm so intrigued by voodoo. Like, most people think it's like evil spirits and dark, you know, and then.

[Shannon Beador]

Accustomer being like, just remember to feed it on a regular basis. Add things to it. Everything you do, add it with purpose. It's your ancient and voodoo vision board. Which is really all she needed to start with is like, tell these women that they'll be making a vision board. And they would have been all been on board from the beginning. Yeah.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, my God. This is crazy. My voodoo doll is already living in a tiny shoebox with 19 other voodoo dolls. The box has cursive, and it says box.

[Jen Armstrong]

I put a pin in my voodoo doll, and I felt bad about it. But then what was worse is that my voodoo doll said, I feel bad. I literally feel bad. You put a pin in me. Did someone just poke me?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I feel me.

[Heather Dubrow]

Okay. Dress it for different. Put it away, put it to sleep. You know, those kinds of things.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Okay, well, let's not talk about putting myself to sleep.

[Heather Dubrow]

So Tamara's like, well, I don't want.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

To go back with you on everything. Gretchen, I just want to be friends with you. It's me and you. We're such good friends, right? I mean, I wasn't in a good place at the time. I was so mad to Simon, for crying out loud. I mean, look at you. You're so cute. You're just so beautiful. Gretchen, I'd love to be friends with you. Maybe one day I can give you back your V advice.

[Jen Armstrong]

However, the things that Tamara's always been good at is, like, making you feel like there's hope for change, for, like, moving forward. And, like, yes, in my soul. Like, my soul wants to believe it's true, because I want that for her. And I. I absolutely do, do, do. Tamara's like, I've been courageous to it, because I thought maybe you did tell her that. And now. Now that I know that you didn't say that I roofed you, I 100% believe you. God, what a bitch Katie is. We all hate her, right? I can tell by your reaction you hate her. You love me. You're part of us now.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Guys, I literally can't. I can't be back in this again, you guys. I'm serious. I can't be back.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Gretchen, like, starts like, what are you doing back here, Gretchen? You can't be in this shit again. You came back to Real Housewives. You've been clawing your way back into Real Housewives of Orange county since you left. Don't start crying now. You're finally in it. Rejoice.

[Jen Armstrong]

Well, Katie is insinuating that Tamara committed an illegal act, and that is bad. And that takes Katie's issues with everyone, every single one of us, to another level. And I want to get to the bottom of this. And by this, I mean this bag of beignets that I just picked up.

[Shannon Beador]

Should we pause for a snack?

[Jen Armstrong]

No. And I think everyone's gonna want to get to the bottom of this.

[Heather Dubrow]

So now everybody's getting ready for dinner, and, you know, it's time to go on to the next fight.

[Shannon Beador]

So.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Scene.

[Heather Dubrow]

That's the preamble. So Jen is talking to Ryan, and she's like, I'm gonna bring this picture up tonight, and she's not gonna hide from it. And then in Heather's room, she's on the phone with Terry having a wacky scene about walking the Mardi Gras puppy parade. And he's like, oh, you showed your boob for beads. Just tell me. Tell me you did. She goes, oh, my God. I wouldn't show my boobs. Are they diamond Beads? I don't think so.

[Shannon Beador]

I'm not Wendy Malik taking off her top just so she could be in some TV show with Harrison Ford.

[Heather Dubrow]

I'm not Daisy Fuentes, okay? Wait for the diamond boots.

[Shannon Beador]

Travis slutting it up so that way she can get an extra refill at Starbucks.

[Heather Dubrow]

So in Shannon's room, Shannon's a mess, as usual. Her hair is all sticking up. I think her goal tonight is to go from the mom and Married with Children. I'm not really sure what Shannon's doing, but she's trying.

[Shannon Beador]

And I'll tell you what she's doing. She is not rolling over, and she is not gonna come jumping back into her friendship with Tamara. Hell to the no. She will not jump back into that friendship. So Tamara comes over, and they Kiki. Yeah.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Hey, bestie. Pink promise. This is so fun. So fun being Pink best friend. God, Mrs. So much. God. No one can drink with me like Shannon can. Yeah, girl.

[Jen Armstrong]

Oh, I think I just peed on my pants again because I'm so happy to see my best friend, who I am not gonna be friends with anymore. Get on over here for a hug.

[Shannon Beador]

So Shannon's like, what's in your glass?

[Jen Armstrong]

And Tammy goes, oh, it's just water.

[Shannon Beador]

And we see the water. It's literally like, the color of Pinot Grigio. It's like. It's either Pinot Grigio or you are getting your water from a very dangerous source.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Well, I'm a little bit nervous. Okay, Shirley, best friend, can I press your hair? Can I miss your hair? Shirley, I love you so much. Okay, you know what? You know, I'm just nervous for the day because I don't know exactly how to bring it up. You know, it's just so deep. It's so dark. Talking about movies and stuff like that. Do you have any movies? They're really good.

[Shannon Beador]

And Shannon's like, well, you know what?

[Jen Armstrong]

I just want to remind the audience I am not jumping back into a situation where we are brushing each other's hair and braiding it. But, yes, Hammer, you can brush my hair.

[Shannon Beador]

Since you did ask.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You know what?

[Jen Armstrong]

Hearing what you said today, I am so livid about it. And it took me about 45 minutes to actually parse it out and figure out what you were really saying. But then once I did figure it out, I decided I was pretty much still livid about it. And Tamara's like, yeah. Cause I feel like Shan and I are back to a really good place. It feels great to have her on my side. It really does. Like I have your back, girl.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's so good being best friends again. Okay, take care of yourself. Get ready. I'm gonna be downstairs waiting for you. Okay. Don't forget your phone. And don't forget your underwear. Shannon put our little drunk. I said that in a friendly way. Alcoholic bits with so glad we're back to be besties.

[Heather Dubrow]

Oh God, Tamara trying to be nice. Tamara is killing me. It's so fucking funny to see it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

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[Shannon Beador]

Then the other ladies. Everyone's like climbing into the car and.

[Jen Armstrong]

Gina's like, oh my God, I can't go in the back today. I feel like a sausage.

[Shannon Beador]

And Heather goes, you don't look like a sausage. You look like a box that arrives from ups. You know, very square, long, wide, unflattering bad color for you.

[Heather Dubrow]

Does anybody have a blue light?

[Jen Armstrong]

Just kidding.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What do you mean? Okay. Okay. You know what? You look great, Tina. Whatever. It's not about you today. Okay, Did.

[Heather Dubrow]

So Shannon comes and she's in her own car.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, what, did Tamara already leave and that we were best friends again? I guess his sister that needs to take a little hike. I don't know. Oh, my God. I still have a beignet on my knee. How did I get a beignet on my knee?

[Heather Dubrow]

This is delicious.

[Jen Armstrong]

Oh, I just remembered.

[Shannon Beador]

It's because I had the driver pull over at the beignet stand, and I bought three of them and I left one on my knee by accident.

[Jen Armstrong]

I said, this will be a treat for later. And guess what? It's been about 45 seconds. That counts as later.

[Heather Dubrow]

Now Jen goes over to Gretchen's room, and she's like, oh, my God, why are you not ready?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, I'm not ready. I needed to talk to you first. I'm wearing a bathrobe. It's a bathrobe of sadness. I just haven't seen you since the whole voodoo thing. And, you know, I.

[Heather Dubrow]

And then back in the car, Gina's.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, what did you do when you ran out of the voodoo? Well, I had a hard time with Gretchen, my new best friend, but a good person.

[Jen Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Shannon Beador]

Oh, was it a good heart to heart?

[Jen Armstrong]

Like, yeah, we talked about Katie and we talked about how shitty she is. So, yeah, it was a great heart to heart.

[Shannon Beador]

Oh, okay. Oh, God. You did not do that, Tamara. You did not flop hand, flop hand, flop hand. So then back to Gretchen, she's like, you know Tamara.

[Jen Armstrong]

All of a sudden she says to me, like, I heard, like, bloggers like, that Katie told them that.

[Shannon Beador]

Like, I told Katie that Tamara roofed me the night of the naked wasted. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, what? And Jen is like, wow, I don't.

[Jen Armstrong]

Know if I followed that, but naked wasted, Is that a. Is that a brand? I love their work. No, no, no. But I don't know even if I. How I feel about that.

[Shannon Beador]

So then we go back to the other car on Tamara saying, oh, Katie said that I roofied her and had this.

[Heather Dubrow]

That. That she roofied her.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What? The literal, like, what, like, was this about your. Like, Heather's body? You were saying something about some story that she planted or something? Is it there? And Tamara's like, that was illegal.

[Jen Armstrong]

I don't trust Katie. But I think Tamara isn't all opportunity kind of girl.

[Shannon Beador]

So Tamara is like, am I the.

[Jen Armstrong]

Asshole that's gonna bring it up tonight?

[Shannon Beador]

I'm like, yes, it will be you. Because you're the only one who seems to care about this right now.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, you're the. You're the one who brought it up in the first place, you dummy. So Gina's like, well, I'm gonna hit.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Katie's side of the story, because I don't know what to believe.

[Heather Dubrow]

So then Katie comes over to Gretchen's hotel room, and she tells her. And Katie's like, well, Gretchen says, yeah, you know, I got told Tamara, by Tamara, that you went to bloggers, and you told them this crazy story. Story that Tamara roofied me. And she's like, no. She goes, you never went to a blogger? She's like, no. And so Katie's like, okay, so now this is coming together. Tamara said to me, the quiet woman.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I didn't want to bring it up, but you told something, something about me. Tell somebody something about me. It's really bad. Katie and I had it from two people. You said, something, somebody about something, about something, somebody, something, somewhere, sometime.

[Shannon Beador]

Katie's like, what did I say?

[Jen Armstrong]

I'm not gonna say it because it was really bad. And I don't know, maybe. Maybe if. If I just say it. Cause it's so bad, maybe I'll root for you afterwards so you don't remember.

[Heather Dubrow]

Okay. So Heather is questioning if I'm planning stories with Kiki Monique. And we see flashback to two weeks before when Heather's like, I heard you were asking Kiki to put out stories to hurt us.

[Shannon Beador]

And Katie's like, and I feel like this has all been a plan since the very beginning to make me look like a bad person. Why is she doing this to me?

[Heather Dubrow]

So Katie's like, well, I'm not gonna just lie. I didn't do that. And I know you have your doubts right now, but hand to God, I didn't do it. I mean, God, it's never ending with these people.

[Shannon Beador]

So Gretchen's like, well, when she said.

[Jen Armstrong]

This, I was just like, wait, what? But then I got back, and I started talking to Slade, and. And then, like, that doesn't even sound like something Katie would do.

[Shannon Beador]

And Katie's like, well, I didn't do it. So, Kate. Gretchen's like, well, all of a sudden, I just felt like I'm getting bamboozled over here by somebody telling me that this is what happened, so that I. I'm. She's trying to get. So I come at you, and I freak out at you. And I get pissed out off at you. And this is, by the way, all feeling like the traitors, which, by the way, announced that they will be doing us all civilian season coming up, by the way. By the way, by the way, by the way.

[Heather Dubrow]

Boring. So, Gretchen. Yeah, I love Gretchen. Slowly figuring things out.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's like I feel like maybe I got bamboozled.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, Gretchen. It's like Beautiful Mind numbers flying around her head. But they're like one plus one plus one. It just takes her forever, you know?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

It's like, wait a minute. Maybe she said it. So I get mad at you, but then I would be mad at you. Wait a minute. I've got it.

[Shannon Beador]

Yes.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yes, Gretchen.

[Shannon Beador]

She connected the dots. All two of them. So Gretchen is like. Well, she's basically like, no.

[Jen Armstrong]

When you have to deal with an individual that's willing to go and get the greatest lengths to destroy people, to harm people, to hurt people, it's just hard to believe that person over the person that's never shown that to me in their life. Huh.

[Shannon Beador]

So Jen is like, okay, well, how.

[Jen Armstrong]

Much time do you need? Because we've got to go to dinner. And, you know, if you're going to take 15 minutes, that's 15 more minutes.

[Shannon Beador]

I have to find this former fatty photo of mine. It's really bothering me.

[Jen Armstrong]

Have you guys seen this photo?

[Heather Dubrow]

So Heather's like, joking about making Shannon some dating pictures for Raya. And then we see a fake bio for Shannon. Shannon, 61, interested in love. Likes my dog Archie. The quiet woman, Lemon man in a bowl, golden door, dislikes liars, bad teeth, plates, sound bowls and houses that go too far into the street.

[Shannon Beador]

Men who don't like vegetables. So. So then Tamara's like, guess what Shannon had told them?

[Jen Armstrong]

And sh. Like, oh, she. She told you Heather?

[Shannon Beador]

And Heather's like, oh, yeah, we heard. We heard all about it. So Tamar's like, so who's gonna sit next to me? So there's like a question because, like, everyone who's still arrived, still due to arrive at dinner hates Tamara. They're laughing about this, by the way. Tamara is also blatantly trying to get Gina to fall into her trap, which I thought she would, which is that Tamara's not going to bring this up at dinner. Tamara's gonna sit there and all angry. And the Gina's be like, you know what?

[Jen Armstrong]

I feel bad because, Katie, look at Tamara over there because, like, I found out that you've been telling people that Tamara's roofing everyone in Orange county, and that's Just not none. Nice.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, she's been doing it this whole time. Like, guys, am I gonna have to be the one to bring this up? I'm gonna tell. Half this cast is stuff, so at least there's a chance that one of you is gonna bring it up. One of you is gonna bring it up. Right, guys? And no one does. Like, she's starting to fail, by the way. She shows up to this dinner with possum eyes on a thousand. They're completely black. Like, completely blacked out. And she's doing that little squint. I mean, she's just looking. She is just, like, a hundred. She's been marinating in Tamara juice on her way here. She's, like, shown up ready to rumble. So Shannon's like, well, can we talk.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

About how Katie is late? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

[Heather Dubrow]

So then in the car, they're talking about Tamara being, like, so manipulative, and, you know, she's so good at making you question yourself. So then at the table, Tamara's like, wait a minute.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What if my plan doesn't work? Okay? What else am I? What's plan B? Okay, guys, I didn't consider this, but what if Gretchen did tell Katie that I roofied her? So let's all be prepared to get mad at Gretchen if Gretchen doesn't follow through. By being mad at Katie. By being mad at Gretchen for spreading the rumor that I roofied Gretchen. Okay, everybody got it.

[Shannon Beador]

Heather and Gina are like, she didn't. So Katie is. So then they walk in, and Katie's like, you know when you walk into a room and they're all talking about you, it's awkward. I'm like, yeah, welcome to this show. So Emily's like, why were you guys so late? It was me, because Gretchen is like, I was taking forever, so it's awkward. And, you know, they're making sort of small talk talk and everything. And, like, Tamara saying she has hiccups. So Heather's like, can you scare her, please? Here. Here's a photo of Wendy. You just show it in her face.

[Heather Dubrow]

So Tamara's just like. Little bubbles are coming out of her mouth. And so she's like, kristen, you want.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

To go talk about?

[Heather Dubrow]

So they go talk privately, and she.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So, am I gonna bring it up tonight? Are you gonna bring it up? Do you think. Do you not want me to bring it up? Because it's just so nasty, so mean. If you want to bring it up, you want to use this microphone.

[Shannon Beador]

I know.

[Jen Armstrong]

I read out some cue Cards for you if you needed. Just some prompts to help you along.

[Shannon Beador]

So Gretchen's like. And Tamara's like.

[Jen Armstrong]

She's like, wait, did you talk to her about it? What did you say?

[Shannon Beador]

She goes, well, she said that she didn't do it.

[Jen Armstrong]

She goes, and do you believe that she said that?

[Shannon Beador]

She's like, yeah. And so then Katie comes out, gets up because she knows they're talking about it. So Shannon's like, wait, it's.

[Jen Armstrong]

Where is Katie going? Is she going to the bathroom? Is she going to the Radio Shack to get another tape recorder to record me? What is happening with Katie right now?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Is she going to the bathroom or the lie room? The. Okay, now, did you guys hear about what's happening today? A lot of shit. Okay. Do you know?

[Heather Dubrow]

And Jen's like, I think I understand it. There was a show on while I Love Lucy was airing. Something about being wasted while you're naked. I'm really not sure. I just. I'm too young to remember that far back.

[Shannon Beador]

Jen, how do you feel about this?

[Jen Armstrong]

She's well, you know, I've. I've had a lot of conversations with Gretchen, and if Gretchen felt like she was roofied, I think she would have heard of that. You know, I think she would have said that.

[Shannon Beador]

So Gina's like, honestly, Jen, she would have loved to have brought this.

[Jen Armstrong]

Like, she would have loved to have.

[Shannon Beador]

Talked about being roofied. So now out in the hall now, it's Katy, Tamara, and. And Gretchen. And, you know, Katie is denying that she talked to Kiki about this. And Tamara's like, so.

[Jen Armstrong]

So why did I get, like, two people reach out to me and tell me the same story?

[Shannon Beador]

And Tamara's like, like. I mean, she's like, you know, somebody. Like, what? Katie says, who was it?

[Jen Armstrong]

And she's someone who doesn't want to be named. I cannot reveal my sources.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I won't reveal my sources. Deep in throat. Welcome Deep in throat.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Katie's like, well, it's not true. And Gretchen says, I mean, I was.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Really looking forward to moving. Moving forward with you, and, like, I still want to have a talk with you. So we can either harp on this, because. Wait, are you saying I pulled this out of my ass? Gretchen? She's like, no, I didn't say that's what happened. I just asked, like, listen, she said she didn't do it. Okay, whatever.

[Heather Dubrow]

And she was like. Storms off all pissed because it didn't work. So she storms back to the table.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And she's like, plan B. Gretchen believes Kate Lady What? Get her, everybody. What is that? We were best friends, me and Gretchen. Been best friends for years. I just got betrayed by not getting accused of roofing her. It's a betrayal. How dare you not accuse me of roofing you?

[Jen Armstrong]

You know, she was sat. When I told Gretchen, she was saddled with me. Hey, was this just an act with Gretchen? Is she a liar all along? Is she a fake person? Is she the most fake person here on this cast? Because what she said is legal and a lie.

[Shannon Beador]

So now you have Tamara and Shannon.

[Jen Armstrong]

Both saying they did something illegal.

[Shannon Beador]

I mean, they're both, like, on this crusade. So now Katie and Gretchen return, and.

[Jen Armstrong]

Shannon's like, well, congratulations, Katie. You ate the last beignet. Congratulations. I guess none of us get dessert now.

[Heather Dubrow]

Your excuses worked for one person. Oh, Shannon, be quiet. Like, have your own things to be mad. She is so out of. She is so out of order.

[Shannon Beador]

And I love so. And I love Katie just being like, oh, my God, Shannon. Whatever.

[Jen Armstrong]

Whatever.

[Shannon Beador]

Yeah, whatever. You're not involved.

[Jen Armstrong]

Well, I, I, I. I'm angry. My anger is involved. I was voodooed by. I was voodooed by.

[Shannon Beador]

I was.

[Jen Armstrong]

I'm a victim of voodoo right now. And you did the doll.

[Heather Dubrow]

K's like, yeah, we got it, Shannon. Everybody knows you're angry. I'm loving watching Katie deal with Shannon because Shannon is just doing her indignant lady thing, and Katie's like, she loved her sandwich.

[Shannon Beador]

Shut up.

[Jen Armstrong]

Yeah, every. Every single person.

[Shannon Beador]

And this is when Shannon does that thing where she points. Like, she points at everyone like, like she's trying to do, like, a magic spell on them really quickly.

[Jen Armstrong]

Like, every single person at this table. Why is my finger wand not working? I'm working. I'm whacking my finger wand. Every single person at this table except Jen, you have hurt. And Jen is already hurt because there's a former fatty photo of her. So let's give her some space. Okay. Every single person has been hurt by you, Katie. You.

[Heather Dubrow]

Okay, well, I've owned it when I've done something wrong, Shannon.

[Jen Armstrong]

Oh.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, you've owned it. Well, who wants to be around someone that hurts an entire table of people.

[Jen Armstrong]

Including the table itself? Look, look. Look at this table. It's crying my. I have tears on my kneecaps.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Katie just rolls her eyes. She goes, oh, my God. I didn't say it.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh, you said, stop lying.

[Heather Dubrow]

I'm loving watching all of this blow up in Shannon's face kind of with the audience, because Shannon is just, like, on a mission from the Lord in This in these episodes, she is so convinced that she's correct.

[Shannon Beador]

I almost think this thing with Katie is so over. Her reaction to Katie is so over the top. I almost feel like Shannon wants to be friends with Tamara again, but she doesn't want to deal with all the. That people will give her. So it's almost like she just needs something. So, like, this is the opportunity to get mad at Katie. And so that way, it's like. It's like, okay, like, you can see, like, Tamara had my back all along. We are good friends. It's like. It's like she's so over the top mad about this recording that happened when you're on a show that's recorded that, like, I feel like there's, like, an ulterior psychological motive going on.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah. Like, she needs to make somebody worse than Tamra, you know, so that Tamara's not the bad one so she can be friends with her. I mean. Yeah, I think you're right. She's sticking up for her. Yeah. Like, look, she's been sticking up for me. That makes sense. So it's like, I love Shannon, but she can. Oh, I'm sorry. What were you gonna say?

[Shannon Beador]

I was gonna say, like, because Shannon is screaming in the restaurant now. The waiter comes by, and she goes.

[Jen Armstrong]

I can't stand you. I can't stand you.

[Shannon Beador]

I was like, what? You like, She's. She's making a scene.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah. She's being. She's being pretty terrible this season, which is hilarious to me. Don't necessarily change, but. Wow.

[Shannon Beador]

That's what she does. She's. She alternates back and forth.

[Heather Dubrow]

So she's like, katie, I'm gonna say.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

This is someone who just wet their pants 10 minutes ago.

[Heather Dubrow]

You are known as the leak in this group.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

And that is something in this group.

[Jen Armstrong]

From the bottom to the top, from the windows to the walls to the sweat drops down my balls.

[Shannon Beador]

So then Heather is like, it's too much. It's too much. And so Gretchen's like, well, where's the.

[Jen Armstrong]

Proof that any of this happened? I mean, I. And I haven't seen anything. So I'm just supposed to be like, oh, fuck you, and come after her. That's what you want me to do?

[Shannon Beador]

And Heather's like, no, no, no, no, no. I get that. I get that.

[Jen Armstrong]

And Gina's like, I think she's struggling because it's her friend.

[Shannon Beador]

I was like, wow, Gina really picking up on the nuances of the situation.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She doesn't want to just say, oh, fuck you, Katie. Because she doesn't know, you know, Like, I feel bad.

[Shannon Beador]

That's difficult. That's difficult. Okay, I agree. Point for Gina. Point for Gina, everyone.

[Heather Dubrow]

And also, guys, beyond all of this speculation, I didn't do it. So there's that as well.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Gretchen's like, yeah, this person has done.

[Heather Dubrow]

So much to me, Tamara. I mean, do you really think I'm.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Just gonna believe this shit?

[Heather Dubrow]

No. Shannon's like, there are multiple reputable, reputable reporters. Barbara Walters called from heaven. She was maybe one of the people. There are people who report things with reputations. You don't know who they are.

[Jen Armstrong]

Well, what she knows that it was. Barbara Walters called, and then she said, hold on, I've got Cokey on the other line. Wanted to make it a. A three way. So it was Cokie and Barbara from ABC Heaven, and they were both reporting on this, and they see everything.

[Heather Dubrow]

Reputable Jack shows up. He's like, where? Where?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Not that. Cokey Jacks, go away.

[Heather Dubrow]

This is not your show. Also, I can guarantee. Oh, sorry.

[Shannon Beador]

No, no, you'll guarantee.

[Heather Dubrow]

Sorry, I keep stepping on you. I don't mean to. I can guarantee you that there are not multiple reputable reporters reporting on Kiki Monique hearing gossip at lunch. No, there's literally, Tom Brokaw is not at lunch. Like, well, did you hear about Kiki Monique and what she heard from a lady from Orange County?

[Shannon Beador]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jen Armstrong]

Here comes one right now.

[Shannon Beador]

So Gina's like, oh, I don't know.

[Jen Armstrong]

Why Tamara would think that Gretchen would ever believe anything that came out of her mouth. Like, has this ever historically gone well for these women in the past 12 years? No.

[Shannon Beador]

So Jen is like, did you ever.

[Jen Armstrong]

Ask Katie about it? No. No.

[Shannon Beador]

Because she didn't want it to be a thing when it wasn't the vacation yet.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I wanted to ask Gretchen, and today she was disgusted. She was crying. Back when we were best friends, remember Gretchen?

[Heather Dubrow]

And she's like, I wasn't crying.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I was just like. I mean, I was like, what? Jenna was like, yeah, you were. You were crying. You were so upset about it. You were so upset about it. I was there for you. I remember I said, patting you on the back, I've sewn up your wounds. It's like, I'm here for you guys and we're best friends.

[Heather Dubrow]

She's like, well, I mean, okay, I was emotional. And Joan's like, okay, so let's just all have it out then. Where's the picture? Tamara?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Leave my picture.

[Jen Armstrong]

The former fatty photo. The thing that everyone's been talking about.

[Shannon Beador]

The Thing that's on top of everyone's minds.

[Jen Armstrong]

Everyone wants to know, where is this photo? And Tamara's like, that's not what tonight's scene is about, the batch. But it's. I need to see this photo.

[Shannon Beador]

We all want to have Katie come to the table. Okay? We want.

[Jen Armstrong]

We want Katie come to the table. And if everyone's been hurt. Well, everyone's been hurt here by you.

[Shannon Beador]

As well, which I like that she mentioned that, like, okay, like, you guys are saying that Katie's hurt everyone, but, like, Tamara, like, let's be real here. Tamara's one who's really hurt people.

[Jen Armstrong]

So, like, what was the intent of the picture with me? I've been asking. I've been asking. I've been hearing about it. Where's the former fatty photo of me?

[Heather Dubrow]

And I love the.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Tamara goes, I don't care about that.

[Heather Dubrow]

Well, it's not about what you care.

[Shannon Beador]

About to care about.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, you're the one.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She goes, I was just retaliating because you keep telling me.

[Heather Dubrow]

She goes, no, you were retaliating because.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I'm obsessed with you.

[Heather Dubrow]

And so then you start showing pictures of me.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, but I was like, you reached out to me in 2013 as a fan, and you're like, hey, she.

[Heather Dubrow]

What are you talking about, by the way? Are we on something? I mean, are you on Xanax? Because Tamara does have black eyes, and she is so furious that her plans aren't working. She's doing a bad job, and it's just not like Tamara and I think it just. As cast members on the TV show, they're like, you're not even doing. You're always a horrible person, but you're not even being a horrible person. While today, like, are you okay? Like, you're fucked up. What's wrong?

[Shannon Beador]

She's like, like, what are you talking about?

[Jen Armstrong]

Are we on something? I mean, Xanax or something? You're not even making sense.

[Shannon Beador]

Just stay on track, okay?

[Jen Armstrong]

We're supposed to be having a fight.

[Shannon Beador]

And Emily's like, you know what the issue is here is the whole thing here. What you're saying is that she's obsessed with you. Like, to me, that's a deflection of what's real. The real root issues between the two of you. And Jen's like, yeah, what is the issue?

[Jen Armstrong]

I don't know. What is it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. First, no, I don't know.

[Shannon Beador]

First.

[Jen Armstrong]

No, I said it first. No, I don't know. I don't know. Until affinity. What? Not you. That's not allowed. That's not fair. Until affinity. I don't know.

[Heather Dubrow]

And now Emily and Gina just start laughing because this is making no sense. And Tamara's, like, clearly up, right?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So Tamara's like, well, I think it's been negative today over the past two years, you know?

[Heather Dubrow]

And Gretchen goes, okay, but where did it start?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That's none of your business. Christ, you're not my best friend no more.

[Heather Dubrow]

She goes, okay, then.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Yeah. You don't know. Stupid Gretzkin heads. I can't believe we were best friends for 10 years. Stupid.

[Jen Armstrong]

See, it just. Just takes a little time, and it always creeps right back out. Unlike my former fatty photo. Where is it?

[Heather Dubrow]

But there's a nicer way to say.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

That was like, yeah, but Gretn didn't know nothing. So that's what I'm trying to say. Heather. How. How nice will that be when I'm saying Greta know nothing? Okay. Gretn didn't know anything. Okay. There. Stupid.

[Jen Armstrong]

She knows a lot.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Stupid. Stupid on her face.

[Jen Armstrong]

She knows a lot. She knows a lot. Thank you so much for pointing out that she knows a lot.

[Shannon Beador]

And Tamara's like, what?

[Jen Armstrong]

You what?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You told her?

[Shannon Beador]

And Kitty's like, what? Tamara's like, you.

[Jen Armstrong]

What do you mean, what?

[Shannon Beador]

Well, I'm asking Jan off. She's like, I'm not. I'm not gonna fuck off.

[Jen Armstrong]

You know what? All right, you know what?

[Shannon Beador]

Then Gina, out of nowhere goes, all.

[Jen Armstrong]

Right, you know what? Tamara, you're being rude, and you're sloshed. Yeah. That is what's happening here. Yeah. And I'm not being.

[Shannon Beador]

And, Tamara, you're being rude.

[Jen Armstrong]

I'm not being fucking rude. You're being fucking rude to everybody at this table. Tamara, this is actually my table, and I don't appreciate that.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I was like, do you know how hot Travis and I work for this table?

[Jen Armstrong]

Who? Who?

[Shannon Beador]

Travis? I don't understand. Is that the waiter?

[Heather Dubrow]

And Gina's like, it's too much.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I mean, it's too much. Like, you got one eye open. You got no idea what's going on.

[Heather Dubrow]

When she did that, you got one eye open because it cuts to Tamara. Tamara's like, you're a.

[Shannon Beador]

Yeah, you got.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

No idea what's going on. Like, don't comment. The one sober person at the table. Because, like, I'm just too sober for the. In general. And let's say it's not fun to be in the middle of all your Tamra.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Heather goes for any of us, which was the real stab, because Heather is the one that's completely on Tamara's side all the time. So that was a real stab. And also for people to know about the fatty photo. It must have been Heather telling everybody. So Tamara is really getting her ass handed to her at this table.

[Shannon Beador]

Yeah. So Emily's like, jen, what would you need?

[Jen Armstrong]

No, I say table it. I don't think tonight is the night. I do agree with a little bit of what Gina's saying. I don't know what's going on. You don't seem like you're in your right mind to be totally transparent.

[Shannon Beador]

You don't. And it's just amazing because they're all like, you're wasted. And Tamara has just had a little scene where she declared she decided to not drink anymore. And you won't see a drop of alcohol in her when she has conversations anymore. And so now she's been busted. Like, I mean, this is. I mean, to. To really flop this hard in five hours.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, it's embarrassing. I mean, give it a whack eye. She's just sitting there like, oh, my.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

God, what do I do now? Plan A, failed. Plan B, fail. Even Heather turned on me. What do I do from here? You will never see me again.

[Shannon Beador]

Know.

[Heather Dubrow]

She's getting that look in her eye. So I'm like, well, this is dumb. Like, I. I don't even know where to go for here. And Heather's like, gretchen, you want to try my gumbo? Yeah, yeah. It's very good. It's gumbo that sings Beyonce lyrics.

[Shannon Beador]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So those lyrics are so simple, even Wendy Mal could sing along. So Gretchen is like.

[Jen Armstrong]

She's like, no, thank you.

[Shannon Beador]

She's like, does anyone want to try my yaya?

[Jen Armstrong]

Look at me.

[Shannon Beador]

Television's Heather Dubrow experiencing things like yaya and gumbo and jambalaya. Ya. Oh, wait. I think I just realized jambalaya is yaya. I'm learning.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I don't want nothing from you. Heather De Bro.

[Heather Dubrow]

Just. Why would you say that?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I don't want it. I don't want it. It's that simple. Keep your yaya away from me. Yahoo.

[Shannon Beador]

Ha.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I don't want nothing from you.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Shannon's like, well, I don't know.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

How many drinks she had, but.

[Heather Dubrow]

But she did walk into my room with something she claimed was water.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Oh. Didn't look like water.

[Heather Dubrow]

I just heard five hours ago that I'm never gonna see her wasted again.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So what is she doing, this alcoholic?

[Heather Dubrow]

I love that Shannon. It's like the tables are turning for Shannon. It's like, oh, my God, it's already time that I get to turn the alcoholic storyline back on Tamara.

[Shannon Beador]

So then Tamara gets up from the table because she's been doing for the past, like, two minutes, she's been sitting there, like, quiet, like.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, I'm not gonna talk.

[Jen Armstrong]

I'm upset. I'm gonna cry on the inside.

[Shannon Beador]

So now she gets up and she leaves, and it's basically like Bali 2.0. So she goes out, and Jen's like, this is bad.

[Jen Armstrong]

This is not a good night. Just kidding. I'm laughing.

[Shannon Beador]

It's great. So Gina's like, it's because she's lost.

[Jen Armstrong]

Because I said she's lost.

[Shannon Beador]

I swear, if Gina says sloshed one more time, I'm revoking all the good things I said about her at the beginning of the episode.

[Heather Dubrow]

I mean, Tamara walks off, and they immediately all start like, oh, my God, Tamara's fucked up. Like, oh, my God. What's going on? So good. So then Tamara goes to the elevator, and a producer comes up, and he's like, are you all right, Tamara?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She goes, I just want to go home. I just want to go home. I'm waiting for the elevator because those are stairs, and Teddy fell down those one time. I can't be traumatized.

[Heather Dubrow]

And back at the table, Gretchen's like, yeah, when she screamed at me, like, man, I was like, I'm not touching this. And she says, when she gets this.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Psycho, you can see something in her eyes.

[Heather Dubrow]

And that is the truth. I mean, those eyes change. Heather's are always black, but Tamara's change.

[Shannon Beador]

So Heather goes out to the hallway, and she's like, tamara, what is going on with you, honey? Why are you talking to all these poor people out here?

[Jen Armstrong]

Tamara's like, I just want to go home.

[Shannon Beador]

You can go home, but don't talk to the poor. It's just not. It's beneath you. You know? You're not helping yourself.

[Jen Armstrong]

How am I not being myself right now?

[Shannon Beador]

I don't know, but I'm uncomfortable in this hallway with people in T shirts and shorts and headpieces. Who are these people? Can we get away from them?

[Jen Armstrong]

No.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

No, Because. What?

[Jen Armstrong]

So I'm not yelling, and that's why I'm like, you guys are uncomfortable with it?

[Shannon Beador]

She's like, I don't want you to yell. I just want you to come back to the table so we can gang up on Katie some more.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

What is it? What do you want from me? What do people want from it? What do you want?

[Heather Dubrow]

So she starts having a fit, and she's. She's like, back at the table. Jen's like, oh, my God, Shannon, if it were you and you showed up like that, you would be, like, a drunk. You'd be drunk.

[Jen Armstrong]

Well, I. I gave Regina's water. I. I didn't.

[Shannon Beador]

I didn't really know what else to do. I just wanted to keep her as.

[Jen Armstrong]

Drunk as possible so that way that.

[Shannon Beador]

He could get off me for once.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

So I just wanted to give her.

[Heather Dubrow]

Gina's water so that way she could have something to drink so I could finish her martini.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I mean, waste not, want nothing.

[Heather Dubrow]

So then back in the hallway, Tamara's.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, I just sat down with Gretchen where I told her everything. And now all of a sudden, I'm the. I'm the forgetting man that someone's not accused of me of rufying up.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Heather's like, well, you know, I'm the.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Just let me be. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. Heather. No.

[Shannon Beador]

No, I don't give a. Heather, no one's saying. Honey, honey. No one's saying you're an asshole. I'm saying, with Gretchen, she probably needs to take a step back. Okay, look, stand right here. I'll let my hand flop onto your head as I say, take a step back. Look, I'm doing a small slam dunk with my hand on your head. Take a step back. Do you feel relaxed now? Take a step back.

[Heather Dubrow]

So Tamara's yelling in the hallway, and they can all hear her.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's like, I don't give a fuck. Just, this girl's contacted my daughter, which is a lie. She's called my husband gay, which is a possibility. Hey, she's gone after me a million times, and I've been so fucking nice to her. I'm so nice to Grace. And everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. They shouldn't even call the episode Naked Wasted. They should have called the episode someone at least brought you a sweater after wasted. And that person was me. But I can't believe it. But someone.

[Jen Armstrong]

You know when someone's husband's dying of cancer and you go on TV and you. You accuse them of having an affair and say that this person called you in the middle of the night, and then you torment them this. With this rumor for years and years and years, this is how you would pay me.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

I've just been nice to you. That's it. It's so hard Being a good person.

[Heather Dubrow]

So she runs out because the elevator's not coming. And, you know, some producer is downstairs holding that elevator. They're like, do not let Tamara get in the elevator. So she just goes down the stairs instead and keeps looking behind her like, fucking cameras.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

You're following me, right? Okay, come on. Come on, guys.

[Heather Dubrow]

So inside, they're like, yeah, that girl's crazy and drunk. Something's going on with her. And then downstairs, Tamara's alone in the restaurant. She's. She just turns to the camera and.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She'S like, do we have to call for me? Am I going to have to come Uber?

[Shannon Beador]

They're like, we're not paying for you to leave the shoot that you're supposed to be part of, you know? So Gina's like, tamara just texted me off. What? What? And then she's like, and then.

[Jen Armstrong]

And so then I wrote back to go to bed.

[Shannon Beador]

And then Tamara says, you were out of line. And Katie is like, well, let me see if I get one. Oh, I didn't even get one. That's too bad. I was gonna tell Kiki about it.

[Heather Dubrow]

Nothing to forward to. Kiki, could you send me a screenshot of the one that you got? That would be great. Well, she said, I'm out. Gina crossed the line. No one is authentic. What did you do, Gina?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She goes, well, I told her I was sloshed and not to tell. Not to tell me. Fuck you. Yeah, I've had it with Tamra. I mean, you claim on your working yourself, but, like, you just said, fuck you. The wrong person.

[Heather Dubrow]

All right, everyone, as Gretchen would say, shut the fuck up. Gretchen. What a line. God, I hope that makes it to the ads. What a wonderful line.

[Shannon Beador]

Did Gretchen say. Is that a Gretchen phrase? Shut the fuck up.

[Heather Dubrow]

I love that. She's, like, iconic. Down heaven. They have all turned on Tamra, and they're back at the table like, yes, we nailed camera Tamara.

[Shannon Beador]

Finally, Gretchen up and Gina. And Tamara's calling Eddie, be like, can.

[Jen Armstrong]

You find me a flight out of here? I'm over. I'm done.

[Shannon Beador]

So then Gina's like, oh, my God.

[Jen Armstrong]

She put on an Instagram. It was a long run. When life gives you real problems, this reality shit doesn't make sense. Peace out. I'm out.

[Shannon Beador]

Jen's like, she really posted that?

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Wow. She quit. She quit.

[Jen Armstrong]

Former fatty photo was bad enough.

[Shannon Beador]

She just quit the show.

[Heather Dubrow]

Former fatty photo. She used really fat font.

[Shannon Beador]

That font used to be bigger, actually, so. So, yeah, they're all like, she quit. Oh, my God. And Gretchen's like, yeah, I literally said in my head, she will probably try to quit the show now because I think, was Gretchen there in Bali when she did this also? I don't remember. No, maybe not.

[Heather Dubrow]

I don't think Gretchen was on that season, but I think that was just totally a Tamra move where she gets caught and she runs like hell, you know? And so Gina's like, I don't know what it is.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Like, I don't know if it was a cry for attention. I just don't know.

[Heather Dubrow]

And so Jen's like, well, once again, you know, Katie's in the line of fire and it's like, here's the grenade. Hold it. I'm just gonna put in the. Pull the pin and walk away. Explosion. Huge explosion. I'm in a wedding bikini. Ryan has a boner. He's taking out his airplane. AirPods. I don't even know what's happening anymore. Tamara's on the phone with Eddie in the car.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

She's. Goodbye, I'll see you when I get home.

[Heather Dubrow]

So I'm in Big Bear.

[Shannon Beador]

And that is the end. To be continued. What will happen? Well, I think we all know that Tamara comes back to shoot. But it was a real surprising turn of turn of events. I mean, we knew that Tamara quit during the New Orleans trip. We know that everyone, like, she had some sort of meltdown. But what I was not expecting was that the entire cast was going to turn against her and, like, call her out. Like, that was actually pretty shocking and gratifying to watch.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, it was lovely. It was lovely. It was a lovely time enjoyed by all. Nice job. I mean, we got a full two hour recap out of this. That's crazy. Hope we didn't hurt your heads, everybody. It's a lot of screaming, but a lot of fun screaming. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks for being with us on Crappins on demand over on YouTube and Patreon. Patreon. And we'll see you guys next week. Also, Monday is Amazon Live, 4pm Pacific time over on Amazon Live. Check our socials to get the links and all that good stuff.

[Gina Kirschenheiter]

Lincoln Baya. Okay. Like, and subscribe.

[Heather Dubrow]

It sucks. Love you guys.

[Shannon Beador]

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[Shannon Beador]

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[Heather Dubrow]

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