#2980 RHOM S7E12 Part Two: The Strain in Spain Stays Mainly in the Plane

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Watch What Crappens Episode #2980 Recap

RHOM S7E12 Part Two: The Strain in Spain Stays Mainly in the Plane

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: August 25, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Ben and Ronnie continuing their irreverent, sharply funny recap of “The Real Housewives of Miami” Season 7, Episode 12. The focus: chaos in Spain as the fractured cast grapples with group dynamics, botched confrontations, questionable word choices, and a never-ending feud about Instagram unfollows and phone usage. The hosts deliver their signature blend of loving mockery, pop culture references, and genuine fan insights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lisa's Unfollowing Drama (03:43–06:14)

• Tile Making Scene: Julia and Marisol plan to confront Lisa about her refusal to unfollow Marcus at Larsa’s request.
• Adriana, often the “loose cannon,” is surprisingly the voice of reason, urging Lisa to take control:

  “You don't want to unfollow Marcus on Larsa's demand because that means she's winning. At the same time, I feel like you're empowering her because she's using that to run the whole group against you.” – Adriana (05:11)

• Ultimately, Lisa unfollows Marcus, which triggers “hallelujah music” and jokes about pigs flying.
• Ben quips on the group’s shifting alliances:

  “This show tricks us all the time.” (04:37)

2. Phone Basket Controversy (12:25–15:17)

• Prepping for Marbella: Marisol insists everyone stash their phones in a basket on both the jet and at the house, citing group discomfort over Lisa's habitual notetaking during conflict.
• Lisa objects, saying she needs her phone for her kids.
• Ronnie humorously summarizes Housewives psychology:

  “One thing a real housewife cannot stand is someone holding them accountable for things they actually said.” (13:21)

• There’s much riffing on Lisa’s parenting, Lenny’s uselessness, and Marisol’s role as “basket monitor.”

3. Housewives “Personal Growth” & Evolving Opinions (08:48–10:20)

• Both hosts in self-reflective mode admit they've found themselves liking cast members they once “detested”—Marisol, for Ben, and Heather Dubrow/Bronwyn for Ronnie.
• Ronnie jokes about the possibility of becoming a Kyle Richards stan:

  “What’s next? Am I going to become a Kyle Stan on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills?” (10:15)

4. Dinner & “Ratchet” Gate: Loaded Words and Explosive Feuds (31:29–35:53)

• Lisa is very late to dinner, which irritates everyone.
• The early dinner conversation devolves rapidly when Adriana refers to Kiki as “ratchet,” a loaded term with racial undertones.
• Gertie, Kiki, and the hosts bristle at the inappropriateness:

  “It's so loaded coming from a non-black woman…we all know how that hits and we know how inappropriate it is.” – Ben (32:05)

• Kiki fires back brilliantly:

  “You are too old to be talking about this to people.” — Kiki (35:13)

5. Age Shaming and Housewife Taboos (35:27–36:44)

• Kiki’s “too old” retort stuns the group. Adriana spins it into “ageism,” which the hosts mercilessly mock, citing Adriana’s frequent age-related insults.
• Ronnie on Real Housewives taboos:

  “The ultimate taboo on Real Housewives is to call someone old.” (35:28)

6. Production Appreciation – Why RHOM Excels (18:07–19:29)

• Ben sings the praises of the show's vibrant production, especially the unique palm frond transitions to commercial breaks:

  “The way the palm fronds come from the edges of the screen and fill up everything, I mean, this show just has…” (18:20)

• Both agree how rare it is for a “silly” reality show to get such visual care.

7. The Mid-Episode Social Media Stunt (25:32–26:23)

• The ladies discover Kiki's stick-on phone accessory and are suddenly enthralled, filming themselves like “sixth graders with a camcorder.”
• The hosts revel in this childish levity amid all the fighting.

8. Post-Dinner Storm-Outs and Meltdowns (38:36–39:38)

• Stephanie, emotional over the group's dysfunction, attempts a dramatic storm out (“This is my storm-out, not yours!”).
• Marisol, Alexia, and others also leave, exasperated by the escalating drama.

9. Airplane Charter Power Trip and Plane Etiquette (46:20–48:08)

• Stephanie draws literal diagrams for the return flight to ensure no one has to sit near their enemies, designating a “criminal area” and banning zippers to protect her expensive seats.
• Marisol jokes:

  “She’s taking this plane and using it as a weapon.” (47:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Adriana’s Rationality:

  “I’m really appreciating Adriana…she acts, actually can have a really good head on her shoulders when she gets out of her own way.” — Ben (03:43)

• On Kiki's Response:

  “You are too old to be talking about this to people.” — Kiki (35:13)

• On Housewives Accountability:

  “A real housewife cannot stand is someone holding them accountable for things they actually said.” — Ronnie (13:21)

• Stephanie claims her “storm out:”

  “No, you’re not coming with me. This is my storm out. Not your storm out, too. We are not allies in this. You sit down. I'm leaving.” — Ben as Stephanie (39:01)

• On Production Quality:

  "There’s just something about the show. Every little element that they add in terms of the visual presentation just kind of puts it in its own league. I just love it." — Ben (18:31)

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Timestamps by Segment

| Time | Segment/Content | |:------------:|:----------------------------------------------------------| | 03:43–06:14 | Lisa’s social media drama & Adriana’s role as peacemaker | | 12:25–15:17 | Phone basket controversy & Marisol's house rules | | 08:48–10:20 | Reflections on changing opinions about Housewives | | 18:07–19:29 | Praise of RHOM production & palm frond transitions | | 25:32–26:23 | The sticky phone video “sixth grade” bit | | 31:29–35:53 | Dinner scene, “ratchet” comment, and age shaming | | 38:36–39:38 | Stephanie’s storm-out and Housewives ally rivalries | | 46:20–48:08 | Plane charting power trip and ban on zippers |

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Tone & Language

The tone throughout remains affectionate yet barbed, laden with Bravo in-jokes, self-aware sarcasm, and frequent impressions of Housewives’ speech. The hosts revel in the absurdity, mixing pop culture commentary with genuine observations about RHOM’s storytelling and cast evolution.

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Summary & Takeaway

A quintessential “Watch What Crappens” episode, this recap delivers all the drama and comedy a Bravo fan craves. From Lisa’s desperate attempts to keep her phone, to Adriana’s disastrous word choice, to Stephanie’s over-the-top flight “rules,” Ben and Ronnie blend sharp critique with pure fandom. The result: an endlessly quotable, insightful, and hilarious breakdown of why “The Real Housewives of Miami” and its viewers are all, gloriously, a little bit delulu.

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[A]

Well, hello and welcome to watchwalker Robins. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

[B]

So back at the tile making, Julia is like, says that she and she and Marisol are going to talk to Lisa. They're going to have a conversation with her and like, oh, well, you know what? She doesn't like people telling her what to do. She's like, peter, you know, an artist doesn't like people telling them what to do. Julie's like, well, I don't like it either. She's like, but Lars has been telling her literally since June. Like, lisa, please, you're on my. You're my friend, you're following Marcus and you know what he's done to me and my family. And she just doesn't want to do it because Lars is telling her what to do, you know. So then we go back to the other group and Adriana is basically Adriana. This episode, through like 75% of this episode is looking very sane. And I'm like having moments where I'm like, you know, I'm really appreciating Adriana. We sort of forget she's so smart. She is very educated and she can, she acts actually can have a really good, like, head on her shoulders when she gets out of her own way. And so, you know, I'm like, wow, look at Adriana being a voice of reason in this scene right now.

[A]

Yeah, I know. It's always funny. This show, this show tricks us all the time. So Gertie is like, listen, I know you're not ready to unfollow Marcus and it's so stupid. But the factor is, it's escalated everything. You have to unfollow Marcus. But she's been so aggressive. No she's not going to tell me what to do. Adriana, you're the voice of Seasons. What do you think? The voice of reason. Hold on, let me write that down.

[B]

Reason. That's a good one. I like that. Makes more sense.

[A]

I love reasons. They're so good in cereal. No, that's raisins. Okay, let me write that down.

[B]

Let me write that down. Adriana's like, you don't want to unfollow Marcus on Larsa's demand because that means she's winning. At the same time, I feel like you're empowering her because she's using that to run the whole group against you.

[A]

He says, Like, I mean, thank you. Very, very well said. God.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I love it when she's like this.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Like, but I also love it when.

[A]

She'S like, you shut up with your stupid, old, wrinkly, bony knees. Why don't you get face surgery on your knees?

[B]

But, like, in this moment, there's, like, clarity, and Adriana says something smart, and Lisa's like, okay, you know what? I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'll do. I'll do it. I'll do it. And so she unfollows Marcus, and they play, like, hallelujah music, and it's a whole big exciting thing.

[A]

You see that, guys? I think I see pigs flying. Kiki and Lisa's like, yeah, you know, I don't think Lars is going to go, you know what? Thank you, friend. I think we can move on now. Okay? It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.

[B]

Nope, it will. Definitely not. But it's good to take away that chip. And in fact, I think Adriana says that in the background somewhere, like, you took away that chip. So now we go back to the hotel, and Marisol is going to have a sedative. I had this conversation with Monk, and she says if Stephanie's. It's Stephanie's plane. Stephanie's choice.

[A]

Stupid.

[B]

Can we not bring. Can we not bring women's rights language into this?

[A]

It's her choice. I mean, we're not in Florida at the moment or Texas or something like that.

[B]

Planned airplane hood.

[A]

It's her choice. For now. For now.

[B]

I know. For now.

[A]

So Lisa joins J. RO versus Fly.

[B]

Am I right? How should get there?

[A]

Someone wrote. Someone wrote me a DM and said, ronnie, please stop bringing politics into everything. You're ruining it. Listen, if you think little jokes like that are bringing politics into it, if you think of the things that I've said, just think of the things that I could be saying, okay? And send me a fucking gold medal in the gold fucking medal for all the things I haven't said in the past 13 years, okay?

[B]

Yeah. And next time you vote for someone who. Who advocates for rem, removing the rights of someone to just live as their normal selves, I think that normal. That person gets to say, can we keep politics out of my life? Thank you very much.

[A]

So, yeah. Yeah. Jesus.

[B]

So let's not everyone look how activated, like, now we're going to be all airplane comments. We just got so salty. So quickly.

[A]

Lisa comes to talk to Julia and Marisol, and she's like, hi, everybody. And this is what cracks me up, because Lisa has shown up to literally every scene so positive. She's like, hi, guys. Like, even when she's late, she's like, hi, guys. I just wanted to come to your room and say, hi, sorry I'm late, or whatever. She didn't say, sorry, I'm late. That part. That was the problem. But, you know, she comes into every scene like, hi, guys, let's start afresh. Clean slate, right? And I'm like, sit down. We need to talk to you, monkey. You're about to get grilled. All right?

[B]

I'm so mad at Marisol because her stupid nicknames have invaded my life. Like, I hear, like, I. Like, I'll be walking around, I'll hear, hey, Keeks. I'll be, hey, Monk. And New York Times just came out with a new game called Pips. And, like, all I can hear is pimps.

[A]

Oh, it's pants. I tell people that. It doesn't even make any sense. Let's say, hey, pimps.

[B]

I hate this because it means that Marisol is no longer the forgettable whatever on this show. Like, she actually, like, officially now has a place in my heart. It makes me so mad.

[A]

Me, too. This is the first. Well, I think it started last year, and I think it's super interesting because she was just so boring and lame. And I think I went over this last week, but she was so terrible the first run of the show. The second show, she came back as a carbon copy of her mother. Like, she was just trying too hard to have all the jokes and the props. And the props. And she spent a couple of years doing that, and she's really gotten the hang of it. I think she's really good now. She's.

[B]

I think she's actually found her exact lane and her exact vibe. Like, she is like, I. I. I don't know. Like. Like, I get annoyed sometimes that she. She does have these lines that she's like, I won't sit there. I'm not going on this party if Adriana's there. She always has this simmering feud with Adriana. But, yeah, I don't know. The. The fact that I'm going around being like paps, and you're going around going pimps.

[A]

It's crazy, right? I'm having a weird year with that, though. I don't know. It's one of those things where I don't know if they're changing or if I'm changing. But I noticed, like, I like her now, which is uncomfortable for me because she's made me crazy for so many years. And I noticed that in the preview of Salt Lake City, I was like, oh, my God, Bronwyn. They're being so mean to Bronwyn. I don't like that. Like, I'm feeling defensive over, like, protective over Bronwyn, which is super weird because she makes me crazy. I'm loving Heather Dubrow on O.C.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, what's next? Am I going to become a Kyle Stan on Real House? Us in Beverly Hills?

[B]

What's happening to me? Yeah, it could all happen. Well, Pips. Okay, Monk, get on over here. Get on.

[A]

I'm going to be like Ben, you know, who's really changed for the better. Shep. What a good person. Just love him. Love him.

[B]

Now, admittedly, of all those people, Shep, is your. Is, like, the least of your of the ones I think that you detest, right?

[A]

Oh, no, I detest the most.

[B]

Really? You detest more than Kyle Richards?

[A]

Oh, the men on Southern Charm. I detest more probably than anybody combined on all of these shows. Kyle just makes me crazy. You know, I would probably hang out with Kyle in real life. I'd probably like her in real life.

[B]

I would hang out with all of them. That's the saddest part. I would hang out with literally everyone on Bravo. I like that.

[A]

I would run for most of them.

[B]

They're all fun, so. Because they're also, like, crazy psychos. Yeah. Be fun. And I am. At the end of the day, I'm a fan. I'm. I'm. You know, when we do this podcast, I like to be like, I'm a commentator, but the truth is, I'm a fan. So. Come on, sit over here, Monk. Come on, sit over here, Monk. Okay, we have Marbella, and we are going on Stephanie's jet. It Is short flight. And we are going to see my friends Derek and Jeffs. And it's extra special because we're going to ask them to be goats. We're going to say, can you transition into goats? And then you can come to my farm and I can take care of you. And they.

[A]

Oh, my God, yes. That's so special. I can't wait to be there for that. I'm going to be there for that again. I can't wait. So that's. We're leaving at 5:00pm Right? 10:00am Okay, 4:00pm 10:00am all right, I'll be there at 6.

[B]

Well, I'll be on my best behavior if that's what I'm here for. Because she already knows. She already knows. Mom and dad or mom and mom have, like, been like, okay, Lisa, we know, like, you're in housewives mode tomorrow. You have to be in, like, human being in the real world mode. These are like. These are non reality stars, and they're important. So be on good behavior tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, well, I. I love hearing that because they are very important people. Okay? They are God, gods. And so, Marisol, they're godparents. Marisol's like, all right, monkey, you gotta put your phone away because everyone's very uncomfortable about the note taking. I can't pull my phone away. I got a kid. All right, well, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna have a basket on the jet, and when we get to the house, there's a basket for the phone. So we're gonna put our phones in the masking, all right? Because people don't want you to be able to take notes there. You can have your phone back and take notes after. But I won't remember after. That's why you can have it after. Do you understand, Monkey?

[B]

Are you guys making the rules for everyone else? Yes, of course. We all have to do that. I can't do that. Here's the problem, Monk. Okay? The note taking is everyone on high alert, okay? We gotta de escalate. We gotta get down to go from orange to yellow. Maybe we can even get to green again. But, like, right now, we're in red Situation red.

[A]

One thing a real housewife cannot stand is someone holding them accountable for things they actually said. Monkey, we're very, very uncomfortable with that.

[B]

Okay, listen, a lot of these women have sold exclusives to People magazine. And we can't have someone else writing an article about them. And that includes you, Monk. Okay? You gotta put the phone away.

[A]

But I'm only taking Notes on Larsa because she likes to twist things and lie. Like, I have to keep it straight. How am I gonna remember things.

[B]

One day? You take on Larsa. Next time you take on me. First day came for Larsa and I said nothing. Then she came for Adriana, and I say nothing.

[A]

First they took notes on Larsa, I said nothing. So Lisa's like, listen, I have to be able to pick up the phone. I've got two small children. All right, well, when you're here, how can you help them if they're over there? If your baby calls and says, I've been left in a hot car, I'm dying, how are you gonna save them if you're here? It doesn't matter if you're on the phone. What are you gonna listen to them die slowly on a phone?

[B]

I actually probably call 911 and tell them to go fetch my baby. All right, bad example. Okay, how about this? Your kids are. Your kids are. Are at the home and they want to have locale pizza again. Because that's what you taught them that they're supposed to like. And you're not there to make it for them. So who you gonna call? Ghostbusters. That was a joke. You like that little on the fly joke?

[A]

Ghostbusters busters. God, I love penises. That was funny. All right, use that one. People love when I talk about penises. They love it. So she was basically saying, well, if you're not there, somebody's got to be taking care of the kids. Why can't they help the kids? And she's like, nobody helps. And she goes, their father doesn't. You can't. Well, Lenny. You really think Lenny's that big of a help? No, I believe that he's not a help.

[B]

They're basically like someone is overseeing the kids right now. There is some adult that's overseeing the kids, right? And I guess she's saying, well, but if there's like a medical emergency, you know, I have to think Lenny's a piece of shit. But I think if there's a true emergency, I think Lenny will probably step up.

[A]

He's got a boob in one hand and a nose in another hand. What is he gonna do, pick up a phone? No, he's got to put the boob in the nose back. He's gonna have a nose in the boob and a boob on the nose. You've got to pay attention. Can't just be picking.

[B]

Guys are shitty. Guys are shitty. But if there's also an emergency, I do Think Jody will spring into action, and she's like, but he is not their dad. Yes. It's like, I get that. But, like, if he. If. If something needs to be tended to for the kids and there's no adult around, I think Jody will do it, and I think it'll be okay. But, I mean, I don't know. This is a complicated situation. I know it's. It's more. It's trickier than that. But that being said, I do feel like Lisa is using this as a crutch to keep her phone. And, like. Like, I think. I think she'll be fine. I think she'll be fine. If there's a real issue, they'll call production.

[A]

But also, I thought this call. I thought this conversation was supposed to be about Lisa being late and starting fights on the plane. Wasn't it? I don't think. I didn't think it was about taking notes, but now Marisol is making about her thing, and it's supposed to be about. Stephanie doesn't want you on the plane if you're going to be late. Right.

[B]

Honestly, I don't really know what this.

[A]

They've changed it.

[B]

So Marisa's like, are you kidding me? I mean, Jody's not going to help you with your kids in an emergency. I mean, what kind of love is that? She's. Guys, I will remove myself from this beautiful rooftop presidential suite terrace next to the H VAC system, okay? Because this is bananas. Okay? You guys are trying to tell me what to do with my phone, and it's nuts. It's bananas and nuts. It's actually a very nutritious snack. What this all is.

[A]

I feel like I'm not wanted. All right, I love you guys. Bye. And Julie is like, this is exactly why I don't want to happen in Marbella. This is what I don't want to happen. It's me tell her nothing and then her scream, Lenny and jump off roof. Lisa, come back. Oh, God. She got stuck on flagpole. She got stuck on. Somebody please bring crazy Face back up, please. She's our friend. I'm glad she wore belt.

[B]

I think that we went to commercial at this point, and I would like to point something out that I feel like we've never really pointed out, or if we have. It's been a long time. We talk a lot about how good this show is. We talk about how the production design is amazing. The colors are vibrant, the way it's shot. We talk about the music. Obviously, the cast is doing great things. Storytelling Everything. One thing we never talk about that I absolutely love that they do on this show is that when they cut to commercial, the way they bring the palm fronds onto the screen, I just love it. No other housewives does it. Every other housewife, if they're gonna. If they're gonna cut to commercial, they'll cut to their title card or sort of like zoom in. But the way the palm fronds come from the edges of the screen and fill up everything, I mean, this show just has guys.

[A]

I don't know if that is mentioned, but he's. He's really into Apple and making transitions. I am. And they do do a really good job on that. On this show.

[B]

I appreciate their use of Apple motion with those Tom Frond. They're white. Yeah. It was like. It's like a bunch of move things that they did, maybe with, like, a Replicator, but either way, like, it's. It's just an ad. There's just something about the show. Every little element that they add in terms of the visual presentation just kind of puts it in its own league. I just love it.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good. This show's really well done.

[B]

And what do you think about the palm fronds, Ron?

[A]

Think they're. I think they're fabulous. I think the whole production on this show is good. I mean, it's just so bright and vibrant and beautiful. It's a beautiful show to look at. I mean, especially for such a silly thing, you know, it's like taking. I love that they're taking such a silly thing and putting such art into it, because it's really rare that you see that on these shows. And while it's not completely rare, I mean, I think they do a really good job on Salt Lake City with the music and how they've made that so original. I like how all the different companies are making. Making, you know, trying to make things so unique.

[B]

Yeah. They're trying to really jazz it up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now it's nighttime. Everyone's in glam.

[A]

Or.

[B]

And by everyone's in glam, I mean, I think only Larsa has a makeup person, maybe Lisa, everyone else just doing their own makeup. And Adriana comes into Gertie's room with no makeup on. And Gertie's like, what? You have no makeup on. I look at this, there's nothing. There's nothing. I'm not your makeup artist. What are you. What? This is ridiculous.

[A]

She goes, you do it for me. She goes, I'm not a makeup artist, but she does it anyway. And she goes, oh, my God. You know, we're very different looking. I don't know that we're gonna have the same kind of thing. And Adriana goes, it's okay. I like to look dark. And Gertie just looks at the camera like, okay, what the fuck?

[B]

That won't be the last time you're giving that look dirty tonight. Yeah. When she said that, that was soap.

[A]

Just the way that Gertie looked at the camera was so funny. So now they all meet downstairs, and Marisol's like, kinks. I'm missing it in kinks.

[B]

And then they're all Kiki. What. What's. What did she do? She has something on the back of.

[A]

Her phone that she's using, the thing that I used to use. Do you remember when we started doing Crappy Hour and I couldn't get my phone? We were doing it on Instagram Live, and we had to use our phones. We hadn't figured out how to. There wasn't a way yet for us to use our regular webcams for it. And so we were trying to get our phones angled at the right way to do a full hour on the thing. And so I bought one of those sticky things, and I would stick it to my screen right under, you know, under my camera so we could use both the camera and the phone camera. And it kept falling. Don't you remember that? It would fall every time?

[B]

I do. I didn't realize that's what Kiki was using. Was it like a sticky. So she had, like, an adhesive on the back of her phone.

[A]

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This was the funniest thing ever. So she does this thing where she sticks her phone to, like, a wall, and they're all so enamored, like, oh, my God, I can't. How did you do that? And then it's like they just become, like, sixth graders playing with a camcorder for the first time. They all start doing this, like, video, and they're like, just, you know, they were there for two hours just making a little video. Them walking up to the camera and then, like, walking off camera like that. That was their favorite thing. Like, I'm gonna walk up to the camera, and then I'm gonna walk off. Yeah, walk off. And then Marisol shows up from the bottom. They were just like, they could have been happy if that was the rest their entire vacation.

[A]

Yeah, well, it was hell to get here, guys. I'm dealing with a lot, and I'm not gonna give Larsa the satisfaction of driving me out of this group, so I'm coming to dinner. And they're like, okay, so are you gonna come down to the lobby? She's like, no. No, I'm not. You guys go ahead with that without me. I'm running a little bit behind.

[B]

So.

[A]

90 minutes earlier, we find out Marisol called her. She's like, listen, Lisa. Listen, monkey. I just want to see you at dinner. You can do it, Lisa. I think it's really important you come to dinner. Who are we gonna yell at? Lisa, come to dinner.

[B]

So they all go to dinner, and they're. Adriana and Gertie are, like, the last to get to the vans. And so Adriana pokes her head into Julia's van, and she's like, oh, it's crowded. So she goes to the other van, and Julia's like, oh, Adriana literally looked at me and then walked the other way. And Stephanie's up because you're fighting. She doesn't even say, can I squeeze in? Can you even believe it? There's room for three goat in here. She can sit. So then Stephanie is like, hey, Gertie, I have some serious gossip for you. Kiki found a boyfriend in Sevilla. And we see footage of, like, Kiki talking to some guy. This is a little piece of gossip that goes nowhere on the show, I might add.

[A]

Yeah, no one cares. Well, 40 years ago when I lived here, I was 17. Oh, well, why didn't you marry a Spaniard? Alexia? Just. Well, actually, I was engaged to a Spanish guy. His grandfather was the owner of Pepsi Cola in Spain. And Mary sounds like, wow, you missed that ball. Jeez.

[B]

I know. Really, I'm looking for that PepsiCola CEO and hopes he's single and not gay. And we can put them back together because we need a big band aid. And by a big band aid, I mean a big band aid. Look, Josh, I want him to have a big penis for Alexia. Penises. Right, everyone? Should we do the drawing bit again?

[A]

Marry the human embodiment of cream soda? Store brand.

[B]

At store brand.

[A]

No.

[B]

So they ever.

[A]

You know, I'd marry Cock a Cola.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Love penises.

[B]

You know what I love? Orange soda. I would also marry Sun Coxed. Sun Cox soda. Get it?

[A]

Free sons. All right, that's not a soda, but, you know, it's got a dog.

[B]

You know what about 7, 7 o'. Clock, just.

[A]

So everybody comes to dinner and. Except Lisa, of course. And Marisol's like, I need to just sit somewhere I can kick Alexia under the table. Oh. Oh. Julia and Marisol are hosting. And they decided when we come back to the hotel, we're gonna meet up with Lisa. Okay. Yeah. Well, I said to her, I said, here's a caveat. And she said, what's that? And I said, you know the caveat. And she said, can I eat it? I said, no, that's a carrot. And then she wrote. Was very, very upset. Okay?

[B]

She thought I was talking about a fast, casual place called Cava. I don't even know what that is. But you have to put your phone in a basket when you get on the plane, and then you have to put your phone in a basket when you get to the house. You have to put the basket in a larger basket and then put that basket in a suitcase and send that suitcase to the first basket and then the other basket back there. Do a lot of basket stuff. She couldn't follow it all. She was trying to write down, bless her heart. Her pen ran out, ran out of ink, and she started to cry. It was a tough conversation, by the.

[A]

Way, she decided to unfollow Marcus right in front of us. She did it right in front of us, everybody. I'm so proud of her. And Marisol's like, oh, thank God, baby Jesus. Well, we're so, like, past that even, Like, I mean, like, Adriana, that's like the bare, like, minimum. Like. Like, I don't even, like, care about that.

[B]

Like, Adriana. I didn't know we were going to announce it because we all made a pact that we weren't going to announce that. Adriana. We did.

[A]

We did.

[B]

We did.

[A]

Oh, well, I guess I missed that part.

[B]

You were sitting right there.

[A]

No, but I was looking at the birds. I was looking at the birds. And then we see the clip. They literally made a pinky promise. Gertie's like, okay, we're going to promise. We're going to remember by linking our pinkies. So we're going to promise not to tell anybody. Everybody know that's what linking a pinky means. Okay, Link. You link your pinky. You link your pinky, Adriana. It's like a physical thing. They all did. She's like, although, I don't know. I was watching birds.

[B]

So actually. But when you watch it, you see that, like, Lisa, Gertie, and Kiki do the pinky thing. And Adrian is just sitting there, sort of zoning out, and they're like, adriana. And they pull her hand into it. So I think that she just was not paying attention. Like, I think she. She was truthfully looking at the birds.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

But either way, it's so funny. So she does that. So then Lisa, meanwhile, Lisa comes in, like, va va voom. I mean, she looks great. I mean, she has this. This outfit on, and she's like, yeah, I'm going to dinner. So she comes in. They're all.

[A]

She would have been there half an hour earlier if they didn't take a whole setup on the street to watch her walk slowly across the street across the crosswalk. You know, they did that 10 times for traffic to not be in the.

[B]

Crosswalk, but they're all eating their entrees and she walks in. I'm like, wait, you're at your. They're at the entrees and you're walking in during their entrees? I'm sorry, that's just so rude and inappropriate. Like, that's just. That's. That's ridiculous. So Larsa goes, who shows up two hours late and acts like everything's okay? Like, and then the caption says, only one hour late, as if it's like, oh, only one hour. No big deal. One hour late to a dinner.

[A]

Guess where she lives. She lives in a place called To Lulike. Luland. Like, she's like, to do like, Lulike.

[B]

Land? Yeah.

[A]

Like, she's from Choga panther to Lulu.

[B]

So Kiki goes, lisa, we made. We made a promise not to say anything, but Adriana ran her mouth. And Adrian's like, no, it's not like that, though. She's like, it was like that. Kiki, stop being so ratchet. And Kiki is like. Everyone's like. Cuz. Like, that is a loaded comment to say Gertie.

[A]

Gertie screamed.

[B]

She's like, oh, yeah. It's so loaded coming from a non black woman and going. And like, you, we all know how that hits and we know how inappropriate it is for her to say that. And Kiki, like, the look on Kiki's face is like, what? Excuse me? I mean, it was like. Everyone's like, oh.

[A]

Oh, my God. It was idiotic. When Gertie squealed. Like, Gordy. Gertie scream squealed and I died laughing. I was like, that was so, so funny. And Adriana's like, what?

[B]

What?

[A]

I was. And he goes, what do you mean? Stop being so ratchet? And she goes, because I was breaking good news. And he's like, no, that's fucked up. She was, no, it was good news. And she's your. No, I'm talking about you calling me ratchet. And Alexi is like, oh, my God, I'm gonna choke on a bone. I'm gonna choke on a bone. In a good way or a bad way, bro.

[B]

Like a penis. Like a penis, bro. Okay, geeks is having a fight. We should watch. So Kiki. I mean, Kiki is rightfully furious because it is. It was just wildly inappropriate, you know, for Adriana to say that. And Kiki is like. He's like, you're the ratchet, the ratchet of them all. You're the most ratchet of them all. We made a promise, and you call me ratchet. She goes, I didn't see a promise. It's like, did you call me ratchet? And Julia's like, adriana, don't react. Kiki is overreacting. I'm like, okay, Julia, we do not need you to come in to step in here and say, who is overreacting? I think Kiki's reaction is 100% valid and 100 deserved and not an overreaction whatsoever.

[A]

Yeah, nobody needs problematic acid, Julia being the arbiter of what's problematic or what's not. And so Kiki's like, what? She called me ratchet. Like, I'm gonna. Now I'll go ratchet for real on her ass. And Gertie's like, let me look it up. I'm gonna look it up for you, audience. Ratchet. What does it mean? R A T C H E T. Low class or out of control. Used in a disparaging or complimentary way. What? Wait a minute. Who wrote this?

[B]

Second definition. A word used by Hannah Berner excessively on Summer House. Still doesn't clarify anything.

[A]

And Stephanie's like, I think Adriana must have meant to use a different word. There's no way that she meant to use that word. Right. She knew that. Right.

[B]

So Alexia, then Alexis. Oh, you know, she used the wrong word. All these women, they use the wrong words all the time. They always use the wrong words. Okay, could someone pass me the goods? Because someone passed.

[A]

I dare you. I don't even know what you're going to try, but I dare you. Would you? What?

[B]

You say, could someone pass me the HP printer? I'm sorry. I meant the water. Sorry, I used the wrong word again. I'm, like, desperately looking around my office for like, oh, no, Ben. You're making a joke about using the wrong word, but you can't even come up with a word to use as a wrong word. Can someone please pass me the. The Google router, please?

[A]

That's like saying ghetto. It's not nice. You're not supposed to say that. You called me ratchet because you're trying to throw me under a bus. And she's like, you are too old to be talking about this to people. Oh, my God, stop.

[B]

What a beautiful response. Because Kiki. Because not only did Kiki say you were too old, the way she said old, she goes, you are too old. Like, she. She just emphasized it in such a good way. It's like, that is the ultimate. That is Ultimate.

[A]

That is the ultimate.

[B]

The old tomit taboo on Real Housewives is to call someone old. And knowledge. Did she call someone old? And. And she's right. Adriana is too old to be saying these things. As in, you're. You're.

[A]

You're.

[B]

You're too smart. You can't be stupid and smart at the same time. She's. And the fact that she emphasized old to someone on this show, on this show especially. Oh, I was like, okay, now it's on. Here we go. Here we go.

[A]

Oh, I'm old. Because you are the same age as my fucking mom. You're the ratchet one. Of course you're old. Yes, you're old. You want to deny it. You want to deny being old. And Alexia's like, she's old. I mean, she's older. I mean, I don't know. I'm old too.

[B]

I don't know. Adrian's like, oh, I'm old, so I guess I'm expired. It's ageism. Okay, you know what? Why don't you just send a tour guide to come look at me and all my child work? Because I'm some old. I'm old like a palace, like Alcazar, who don't want. Don't mind me. I'm just old.

[A]

Typical Adriana. She says the most ridiculous thing. She just accused me of being old, and then, thankfully, the editors put it in. Shut up, you old. Get plastic surgery on your wrinkled knees because they need it.

[B]

She literally just age shamed Marisol. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. You guys are Delulu. Okay, Delulu, timeout. You guys, in order for us to get back to a dulu place where we can all coexist and see the good and Delulu in each other, we have to understand that we have friends. We're going to be friends, and we are just. What we need is Jesus. We need Jesus. No, we need common sense.

[A]

Like, for Kiki, you can only be friends if you're young, okay? So if you're old, you can no longer be friends. That's what she said.

[B]

All right, guys, let's have a lovely time. I want to apologize to everybody about yesterday. I wanted to remove myself, and I did, and I dealt with it myself. And anyone want to take my phone? Look at me. I'm handing off an olive branch. Although it's a phone, but it could be an olive branch.

[A]

And they're just looking at her like, this is not about you right now.

[B]

You know?

[A]

And she's like, no, no, I Want to clarify? In the last two and a half years, I'm constantly taking notes because the lawyers, you know, and whoever else is gonna say I gotta take notes because of everything. Okay, well, I'm sorry. I gotta get back to Miami because I have to babysit her kids, because that's what grandmothers do. So bye. Goodbye, everybody. Goodbye. I have to go get in a cocoon like old people. Bye.

[B]

Sorry. I have to go find Morgan Freeman to drive me around. And I have to make sure I tell my story to Kathy Bates. She's just gonna go through every Jessica Tandy role. Oh, sorry. I have little robot aliens living in my tenement right now that are repairing things. Sorry, batteries not included.

[A]

Are you kidding me? Old people have to babysit her kids for her? That's what she said. Oh, no, no, no. You know. You know who's taking care of my mother? Me. It's me who's taking care of her. Oh, Respect. Respect. Respect. Respect. Respect. Respect.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

Respect. I'm done. So Stephanie rises up all of a sudden and starts crying. She's like, I am done. There is no way I'm taking a single chance to do something nice for Julia. This happens again. This is the third dinner that all of you guys have ruined. I am leaving. She goes, I'm leaving too. Goodbye, says the old person. She goes, you're not coming with me.

[B]

She's like, this is my scene. She's like, no, no. I love that she turned Adrian. I was like, no, you're not coming with me. This is my storm out. Not your storm out, too. We are not allies in this. You sit down. I'm leaving.

[A]

She's like, well, I gotta go babysit her kids so she can party. Seven is like, no, I'm not going with you.

[B]

All you girls are crazy. Honestly, I'm embarrassed. Listen, we are in Spain. They don't do this here. Okay, cut to last night being like, leave those name out of it. I don't want them to know we are American. Okay? I don't want them to know. I think that ship has sailed.

[A]

I don't want them to know we're American.

[B]

The way I die. Camera crews. The camera crews and the screaming all night was a little bit of a tip off.

[A]

So funny. So she gets up to leave with Marisol. Now they're walking out with them. So Lisa is like, oh, sorry. At the table. Sorry. And she goes up to this teenage guy. She's like, sorry, sorry. Okay, everybody drinks on the. I guess the house. I don't know. I'M not paying for that. They're paying for that, right? The restaurant will get it.

[B]

She's like, sorry, guys, for making a scene. And then she walks away. She trips and falls over and almost falls on her face removed.

[A]

That chamber got in my way.

[B]

And watching her trip, she trips in such a funny way. I watch it like five different times. She's like. It's like. It was like some weird, like, super Mario skidding or something like that.

[A]

It was impressive because she tripped, but she caught herself on her stiletto heel and then was like, wobbling and like, somehow managed to, like, wobble it back straight. I mean, that's talent.

[B]

Oh, God, it was so, so funny. So down by the vans. So now you have all the people who've stormed out, but not Adriana. Adriana tried to storm out with the group, but they. I don't know. Where did Adriana wind up staying with the table because. Because she did not get to be part of the storm out van. So we have Marisol and she's like, well, tonight escalated because the Keeks and Adriana. I mean, Lisa, you know, Lisa. Lisa and you. Larsa. Larsa. Because Lars is with them too. She's like, you know, lisa and you, Larson were moving forward. I thought it's like, oh, well, you know, it's always something. It's always something. And then Stephanie is in the way back of this van, and she's claustrophobic, and she's like, guys, guys, I'm getting claustrophobic in the air. Are you gonna move or what?

[A]

Like, I can't.

[B]

I can't do this anymore. I'm getting claustrophobic.

[A]

She's so ridiculous. So now she's crying. Nothing happened to Stephanie. Nothing. She's just trying to take everybody else's shit. It was so funny. So now they get back to the hotel, Stephanie's crying, and she's like, no, no, I. Like, I don't. I'm good. We can't just take some and leave other people on the plane. And then, oh, now what am I supposed do to. To do. Who am I supposed to kick off? So now we have to watch Stephanie cry to decide who she's going to kick off of her old man ball plane.

[B]

Yeah. And Marisol's like, oh, God, it was so embarrassing. I mean, you know, at least Lisa last night, she kept a normal tone, but those two are just absolutely disgusting. I really actually thought it was offensive that, like, it became a discussion of, like, wow, Kiki and Adriana were so loud and terrible because I Feel like Kiki. Like, I feel like Kiki was. It was really offensive what Adriana said. I think Kiki was allowed to have an emotional moment. And the fact that they're kind of, like, making it that, like, both Kiki and Adriana were out of control. Adriana was out of control. Adriana was wrong here, and Kiki was reacting. I just don't think that Kiki should have been lumped into this. Like.

[A]

Well, Kiki was also yelling at the restaurant. I mean, I think that Kiki.

[B]

Alexia was yelling the night before.

[A]

Well, that's. That's the thing. That's. Any of these ladies acting like the other ones are not behaving and they're so embarrassed is hilarious because they all act like in public. They're always screaming at each other in public. It's not the first time this has happened. So them. Them acting like, oh, my God, I can't believe she. Dude. I mean, we just saw it with Gertie this season when Gertie gets water thrown all over her. But Gertie's the asshole, you know?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And I just feel like Kiki had. Of all. Of all the outbursts that we saw over the past last two nights, of two nights of dinners, Kiki's, I felt, was the one that was most earned because I think she had something that was offensive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think it was just. I just didn't like this whole vibe of, like, oh, like, she is. As, like, the false equivalency of, like, oh, well, she and Adriana, they're both just being terrible. It's like, no, Kiki, like, had something terrible that was said to her.

[A]

Well, yeah, the conversation should have been like, Adriana's just throwing out, like, casually racist terms at somebody. Like, what the. And that never even came up. Like, nobody even said that. Like, I don't know if they didn't.

[B]

Or at least problematic more than. Maybe not. Maybe not outwardly, maybe not. I don't know if it, like, if it's all the way at the level of, like, racist. Probably could be. But at the very least, problematic, and she should have known better. And I don't know. I just. I just didn't like the way that then they were like, oh, they're being so on. They're being so uncouth when, like, Marisol. To be fair, Marisol rarely yells because she doesn't have that energy. But Alexia, Alexi has meltdowns in public.

[A]

All the time, constantly. And Stephanie's. Stephanie just stood up and walked out and had a Fit in front of a whole.

[B]

And yelled at the table.

[A]

And she wasn't even involved in anything. They're all ridiculous. And then Lisa comes in and they all. They're all. Anybody in this cast getting pissed off at yelling is ridiculous. But, yeah, I was surprised that Adriana got away with nobody even calling her out on how problematic that was. And I'm wondering if they're thinking. Because I think even at one point, someone was like, maybe it was when Alexi was saying, like, I don't think they understand the words. Like, people don't know words, you know? And I wonder if that was. That was the closest we got to somebody being like, I don't think she knew what she was saying. I think that's what they. Then maybe that's what.

[B]

But then it was because Gertie did say, it's like saying, you're ghetto. And so, like, it just has a very loaded. It's a very loaded thing to say.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like we all pretty much know better in 2025, but we know better. Jesus.

[B]

And I think that maybe the reason why. I think that Gertie. I'm not Gertie. Kiki. Kiki had such a great, you know, like, counter attack by calling her old. It was so. It was so pure and it was so effective that there's almost an element of, like, justice was served. But. But, yeah, like, it's. It still is. It still is not right at all.

[A]

So Stephanie's now crying, and so they sit down at the hotel bar, and Lars is like. I mean, like, I feel like even when I have words, like, I talk low, I'm just not, like, one of those people to yell. Yeah, you've been yelling in public multiple times just in this trip. And she goes, yeah.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

Like, even if the house was on fire, I would just be like, the house is on fire. I wouldn't be like, the house is on, like, fire. Like, I would be like, the house is on fire.

[B]

Has on fire, like, house. Like. So they're all laughing about Larsa having a quiet voice. And then Stephanie is like, like, I'm like, actually so surprised that Alexia is really there for me. She's making me feel really good. And I feel like I'm seeing some light at the end of this dark tunnel. With Alexia making you feel good about what? Nothing happened to you. You stormed out of a dinner at the Real Housewives.

[A]

She's crying and having a fit, and Alexi is like, oh, you know why you're crying? Because, like, You. You're not used to it. Like, we're used to it, so we don't care. But, like, you're. You're. You're new, so, like, you don't know, but, like, this is how it gets, you know? And she's like, oh, she's, like, being so nice to me in my. My dark times.

[B]

So that. So then Stephanie starts coming up. She has all these papers they have to sign, I guess, to go on the. On the plane. But she then decides that she is going to draw out a schematic where they're gonna figure out the seating arrangements on the plane, so that way no one has to sit next to anyone they don't want to. Of course, when she does this, she, like, yells across the entire hotel. Hotel lobby to the receptionist, like, can I get a pencil? Instead of going up and getting a pencil like any normal human would be. Would do. So she sits there and she starts drawing up this map. And she is on such a power trip with this map, and she's, like, arranging. I can't even follow it. She's saying something about there's, like, a criminal seat. Is that where Adriana's gonna sit?

[A]

Because there's different sections of the plane so they can cordon people off into different rooms, I think. So. She's like, this is the criminal area. So someone will be alone back here. And then no one can. You know, they can't start fights. So I think we should put there. And if they disrespect me for 22 minutes, they drive back. And Marisol's like, yeah. Even though I think this is a lot, I mean, she's taking this plane and using it as a weapon. And she goes, oh, my. But we can put them in there because there's a door, and it closes. There's a full door. Like a door. We could just lock them in there.

[B]

It's like a door. It's like a door. It's like a door. It's like. It's natural door, guys. It's like, yes, we understand what a door is. I mean, the isolated scene here, it makes me feel like everyone's being punished, and it's just not sitting well with me. Pun intended. Because we're talking about a seating chart, and I just don't want any part of it. Although I will take full part of it.

[A]

Yeah. While I say I don't want any part of it, I'm gonna sit here and help with a seating chart and not say anything. So I'm gonna stand against it and she goes, and also, I don't want people wearing zippers on their clothes and cutting my seats, so we're gonna have to do something about that, too. Oh, and also, I don't know if you guys understand how much I don't like pooping. Alexia's just looking at her like, I liked you for five minutes.

[B]

Yeah, this is way too many strings attached. Also, you're so wealthy then, enough that you can have your own large private plane that you can't get material that can hold up to a zipper. Well, then you are lame.

[A]

Yeah, she sucks. And I think she actually had a decent episode. Most of the episode, I was kind of enjoying Stephanie, and then I was like, oh, no. Yeah, she still sucks by the end. Boo. Boo, man. But for the whole episode. Wow, what a great ep. And it just ends with Marel going, this is why I drink, people.

[B]

Classic Marel. Yeah, that's what I drink.

[A]

Great episode, though.

[B]

Overall, so entertaining. And the trip continues. We're going to see how this all pans out. Thanks, everyone, for being here. Oh, and by the way, you know what I just realized? We're recording this. We're recording the day that this airs. Ronnie, we didn't. I can't believe I didn't say this at the top of the episode. Happy 50th birthday. Oh, my gosh.

[A]

You have to tell. You're telling. You tell me every day. You're so sweet. We did a bonus episode. We did this one. Then we're gonna record again on Monday.

[B]

But it's just funny because we. Yeah, because it's. The time is all off. But I forgot that this is actually airing on Ronnie's birthday. So everyone give Ronnie a huge amount of birthday love, because this is a big one.

[A]

Oh, thank you.

[B]

And we love you, Ronnie. You're so.

[A]

I made it to 50. Who knew? Didn't see that one, too.

[B]

You did it. Well. You've given me, at the very least, 20 great years of laughs and love and friendship.

[A]

So I love you, too.

[B]

I'm happy. I'm honored to have been along the ride with you for that amount of time and looking forward to 20 more years and 20 more years after that. And we love you and your sweet. Hope you have celebrate. Have a great 50th birthday celebration. And yeah, everyone, everyone give Ronnie some love.

[A]

Thank you, Ben. Love you. And we love you guys. We'll talk to you next time.

[B]

Bye.

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You're sweet, man.

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