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Well, hello and welcome to watch what happens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, Ben. Hi.
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How's it going?
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Good. What's going on with you this morning, this beautiful Tuesday morning?
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You know, I'm just enjoying September and we, we just wrapped up Below Deck last night. I couldn't be happier. Actually. I'm in a tremendous mood because it means I no longer have to watch this season of Below Deck because I thought it was the worst season they've ever had. I'm saying it right now, everyone. I'm saying it right now. I thought it was in.
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Disagree. Disagree.
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Yeah, I thought it was terrible. It actually got to me. I thought it was gonna be the best season. I thought it opened up so strong and as it went along I started to realize this is actually the opposite. This was, this season was absolutely insufferable for me and I languished my way through the last night's episode. Languished. But you know, it's below deck. You know, they have good seasons, bad seasons. This one just did not really hit for me, unfortunately. Sorry.
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Well, I wish it hit Silane because I was really hoping that this was gonna be a fight between Rainbow and Silane that would end up in a fight on an island with somebody dead, you know. And then I was like, wow, well sulainan that guy do it. You know, I was very invested. So what can I say, you know, I was like, oh, I hope the toilet gets cleaned. But I enjoyed everyone. Welcome to the show. We did Amazon Live this week. It was so much fun. We do those every other Monday at 4pm Pacific over on Amazon. You can get links on our Instagram link in bio. Also when we're not doing that every other Monday, we are doing crappy hour at 5:30pm Pacific Time. So that'll be this coming Monday. So join us for that. That's super fun. You can find that on Patreon for free or on Instagram or on YouTube, our YouTube channel. YouTube. You can also find a bunch of free videos because we put all of our video rec up there a week after they're released. If you want them new, you get them on Patreon, like right now. Like all you people watching right now. Fresh on Patreon. Hello. Crap. Ins on demand. Also, that's where you get our bonus episodes. We've got a few trailer trashes up there, which is where we trash trailers. We did Real Housewives of Potomac and Real Housewives of. What was the other thing? No, Below Deck Mediterranean, which starts what, next week or something. And we'll probably do a wife swap. I don't know. We haven't talked about it, But Wife Swap is coming out on Bravo, so there should be a trailer for that. I don't know. But go check over on Patreon to find all that good stuff. And today it's below deck. Season 12 Episode 1612 over, by the Way.
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Yeah, over the Rainbow, starring Michael Joseph. Michael Joseph's Over Rainbow, by the way. Speaking about that, Bravo, Housewives House. Like Wife Swap. I thought it was that, like, the housewives swap families, but they just swap with normies. I did not realize that. Did you know that?
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No, I still didn't know that until you told me right now. So they're not swapping with each other?
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No, I. Because I watched, like, the. I watched like, the. The little sizzle reel or whatever it was that they released today. And it was like Melissa Gorga saying something like, oh, my God, I have to go to Idaho and Emily Simpson be like. And. And I. I just assumed that, like, Emily was taking over Wendy's family or something like that. But then they showed at the end of the trailer or like, the commercial, like, some just like Normie is being like, what have I gotten myself into? So that'll be. It'll be an interesting show for sure.
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Well, I feel like that's like a real life wife. Wife Swap. Because, you know, the name comes from kind of swinging, right? Like Wife Swap. And I feel like swingers, when you swap, you always get someone homelier or as homely as your current partner. You know, I don't think it ever works where you get someone better. So I think that makes sense. It's like, wow, we're swapping, but is the grass really greener? No, we're all basics.
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I don't think I personally would want to swap into any of the Real Housewives lies. I don't know. I feel like we see them on TV and Not sure. I see, like, the upside of suddenly, like, Swapping in and, like, pretending that Shane is my husband.
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No one needs Joe Gorga running around their house screaming about how he needs to get the poison out. Nobody needs that.
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No one needs that at all.
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I know things that are normal on housewives would probably be considered, like, assault on a regular show. You know, Emily's gonna go in there and diagnose everybody's child with something and be like, I don't love you as much.
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I just don't love you as much.
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I'm trying to divorce everybody's husband.
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I think this is basically just Bravo's attempt to do, like, some sort of, like, maximal crappy lake situation, sending housewives off into, like, rural areas where it's like, oh, my God, this is crazy. The kids all need to get their peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and go to school. So.
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Well, I think if you want us to watch how real housewives deal with the real world, I want to see them take on these jobs that are, like, under fire for being, you know, terrible. Like, send them to the iPhone factory. You know, send them to, you know, the. The shipping. Like, the. The shipping places where they have to go, you know, work with no breaks and stuff like that. Do that, do that. That's what I want to see. I want to see Angie trying to figure out how to lead a train union.
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I. It is time to organize. I would. I hope that they bring back Marguerite Perrine for a. Perrin Perrine.
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The.
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The crazy lady from Wife Swap. Like, the only. The. When Wife Swap originally aired in like, 2005, the only episode that was ever worth watching was that crazy lady Marguerite. Do you remember that. That lady who is like this God fear. She was like, I'm a God warrior. She was crazy.
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And oh, I saw the clips of that. Oh, yeah, these are sinners. These are people of Satan.
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That was truly the best, like, Wife Swap, like, kind of like climax in that moment. And it was great. It was a great time for all of us.
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And so did Joe Gorga. Super weird. Super weird.
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Let's. Let's resurrect that lady on Twitter with Joe Gorga. How about that?
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I'm down. But in the meantime, we're gonna have a below deck swap, because below deck will be switching over to Anyone need a hug? Below Deck Medium next week.
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Below Deck mid.
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No more of a spit swap Capri pants swap. Okay, who's in my. Who's in my ankle socks? Okay, so here we go. Below Deck. Season 12 Episode 16 over the Rainbow. We get interviews and we know that it's the end of the season because there's like lots of green screen. They didn't even put anything up. They're like, guys, this is what it looks behind the scenes. And it's a green screen.
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They are acting like scandal is about to happen on this boat. Like, we made it. America has seen this crazy, riveting season of people banging each other. How's it all gonna shake out? I'm like, why do we have to have. Why are they making it seem like we're doing a camera's pick. Pick back up episode? It's just. It's just the maids. The maids are just. They're finishing up their charter. They're like hitting the toilet bowl one last time.
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Every day is hell, so you've got to be ready for hell, Anthony. And then we see the flashbacks of Anthony losing his mind and throwing dish rags.
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This is best, his best, his best act. And then we see like, oh my God, all this stuff. And then we see Kelly being kicked off the boat dam. And then we see Kyle and he's like, with Helen on the beach and oh my God, so much scandal happened.
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Isn't it funny how Kelly's whole thing like, you Democrat, you're all Democrats. Like, how fitting that is right now in this time. Just seeing that clip, I was like, well, you got to give it to below deck. They. They keep it modern. Because that's basically if you, if you turn on the news right now, that's basically what's happening. Everyone's like, democrat. It was democr. You're all a bunch of fucking Kelly's. Sit down, all of you. So Anthony's like, yeah, tonight's an incredibly big challenge because we do have a lot of restriction. I do it for you, daddy. I do it for you, daddy. He kept saying that in this episode. Like, daddy, Daddy, I'm doing this gluten free plate for you, daddy. This is all for you, daddy. I'm figuring out the fish. Free gluten free for you, daddy. It's like, okay, could you just leave your dad alone, okay? This poor guy, he's like, please, son, don't stop throwing the dishwag.
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The son. I'm sorry, but I am in heaven now. I cannot pay attention to your eight course meal. There are real celebrities up here. I spoke to Napoleon last night. He's really cool. I don't know why people say he's a complex. He is a complex personality, but, you know, come on. Like, you're kind of interrupting my flow right now. So.
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So the captain is going to Be eating at the table tonight, which could send Anthony over the edge. So he spends half an hour really plucking those eyebrows to make sure he's ready. And he's ready. He's done. So Anthony.
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He'S going to bust out his. He's going to pull out his best mommy dearest look for tonight's meal, like, eight courses. Every course I have to do, that's one more lash that comes out.
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Yeah. He's like, I'm 90s eyebrows today, people. We're gonna do this back in the day before gluten allergies. Let's do this.
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So everyone sits down for the big fire and ice dinner. And then everything is. There's so many slow mo shots. I don't know why. They just. It's been a lot all season, but this episode, they were like, like, okay, Cindy, one episode left. Just give us everything. We know you've come come up with a lot of good slow mo filters. She's like, yes, I'm gonna do it. It's like someone sitting down in a chair. It's like slow motion, close up of a lady taking your seat. Slow motion, close up of putting something in the oven, by the way. Also, the other thing is this, okay? Anthony has a lot of stress. He's got to do an eight course meal before these damn fireworks go off. Can the producers, like, get out of his way? Must they put a GoPro on the sheet pan that he puts into the oven? Because, you know, he's like, I just want to cook my food. Like, no, no, stop. We have to put a GoPro into the sheet pan notice. So we know what it's like to be put into an oven. I'm like, why are you doing this? This poor man. Let him cook.
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I was cracking up at that, too. The GoPro on the sheet pan. Like, oh, okay, wow. Now we know what it's like, the life inside of an oven. Yeah. That's why that other guy quit, too. That original chef was like, get out of my kitchen. I'm trying to cook. God damn it. Get these cameras out of here. I can't do it. And they're like, just get someone desperate enough to put a GoPro on a sheet pan and make sure he's barely got eyebrow eyebrows left. Please, please, whoever it is, please get.
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Your GoPro out of my polenta. Oh, Daddy says you can put GoPro on my blender. Go ahead, go for it, Swan.
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GoPro. So, yeah, he's stressed out. And I just love the. Only Anthony could make fireworks this Stressful. He's like, oh, we have firework tonight. I do this for you, Danny. I do it for you. So he introduces the dinner, the fire and ice tasting. For the first course, it's iced avocado mouss over black garlic paste. Gross. Iced avocado mousse. That's like frozen guacamole.
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I'm okay with that.
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I want my guac room temp. Don't serve me some. Like an iced avocado.
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Listen, you are on. You on super yacht with coronary food for daddy. Come on, be open to these things. So they have it. They enjoy their ice, their iced avocado mousse. And then Barbara and Jess are in the crew mess talking. Jess is like, I don't know where. I didn't know where you were. Oh, I thought you were in a different room. And I walked in that room and you weren't there. And if I had only paid attention, I would have known you weren't in that room. It is the consequences of my actions.
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Oh, you're off in August. What if I meet up with you in August instead of now? Do you think that would be okay? Because we could spend more time together? You want to go to New York and fuck your butt off in the. I'm convinced that she. And you know, I hate saying this because I really like Barbara, but I think Jess is totally using her for real estate. She's using her for 100%.
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100%. Barbara needs to start working on looking at red flags, okay? If you, if you're working, you're working amongst the waves anyway, so you should be paying attention to these flags because this is so obvious to anyone watching that this lady is purely using it when she says, maybe instead of hanging out now, let's hang out in like several months from now. No, we all know how that. What that means. Come on, Barbara. And then Barbara says, well, I do have feelings for Jess. I mean, part of me really wants to see where this goes and. But I had a long distance relationship before, and it's something that I definitely don't want to have again because I know how easily I get hurt. I'm confused. It's not nice. You know, there is like, if you get easily hurt, why are you messing with this lady right now?
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Because she's really hot. I mean, look, we all. We all know what that's like, and I get it. You know, red flags don't mean anything. Some. When the person is hot enough, a red flag just looks like a sheet. You know, it's like I could under that sheet, you know, lay it down, let's on it. You know, I'll take that red flag because, you know, a person's hot enough, you put that to the side.
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Okay, I guess so. I'll allow it.
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But protect your real estate, you know, even when you're renting, it's still yours. You know, protect it because you live somewhere like New York, people will be coming to see you all the time and you need to start protecting yourself. So Barbara, you know, Jess is like, where do we stand in our relationship? Well, I mean, you just someone else in the shower about five minutes ago. So can we not talk about our relationship right now? You little couch surfer. You little cooch surfer. So Barbara's like, well, I think we keep in touch. And she goes, oh, exactly what I wanted to hear. Just keep in touch.
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She probably literally wants to keep in touch. So then Anthony serves his next course. He's torching his bruleeing. This is an onion brulee for daddy. Because everything he brulee is, everything for fire is literally. He just lights on fire. So they. He brings on.
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Can I. This was the longest service of all time. He's like, oh, I don't know how I'm going to have time to do this before firework. Please, Daddy, give me strength. He relays that even on. Even with editing on tv. I was like, wow, you're doing each one at the table. Each one is taking at least two minutes. Can they eat their damn brulee? Do this in the back.
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I know I that well. That was Fraser who said that. He's like, shouldn't you be doing this up at the table? I think they'd like to see it. I'm like, I don't want to see someone like, I thought the same thing. I was like, just do it ahead of time and bring it out all at once. Because I don't want to be sitting there if I'm number one in the brulee line. If you brulee and I have to sit there and just like, wait, yeah, everyone else to get bruleed when there's like eight ladies there.
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Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, by the way, you're correct. Everything does look really good. I think he did a great job with this final dinner thing.
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Yeah.
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But it was very literal, you know, fire and ice, everything will be on fire. I will make everything on fire. Literal fire. You know, you could have. You took the. You took the assignment extremely literally. But, you know, it did look good. So onion brulee and then so one of the guests is like, oh, but I'm. I'm ice. I'm only allowed to talk about cool things. Well, you failed so far, all of you ladies on this boat.
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You didn't talk enough about cool things. Yeah, they definitely did not have that. So then there's some stickle, and there's more flames on that, and then there's like, a mushroom thing. And then one of the ladies is like, I'm not tasting mushroom. It's like, really, Kathy? Like, no, I'm not. Like, whatever, and just moves on. I'm like, we're just gonna move on from the lady who doesn't taste mushroom. There was a time in our lives when below deck would hear an entire episode over a lady not tasting the mushroom in her mushroom dish. And there would be a commercial break, and there'd be promos, and it would be a cliffhanger, and it'd be like, we're not gonna get our tip. And now it's just like, I just am not tasting mushroom. And everyone says, get over it. And then we go back to watching Jess and Barbara or Celine and Kyle and Damo downstairs. It's just, I. I want to. Petty service issues back, front, and center on blow deck.
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But also, fuck that lady, because she was just trying to have her Top Chef regular person moment where they. Where they have those challenges where it's. They show the audience eating, you know, and they're like, we're regular people, and I don't appreciate that there's no mushroom. And they're just trying to get their camera time. And I think everyone knew she was just trying. And so they were like, shut up, Kathy. Because it was mushroom risotto. Okay? It was risotto covered in mushroom. Like, there was mushrooms everywhere. It was brown. And she was like, I'm really not getting any mushroom. Like, you really need to try harder, Kathy, because this is literally covered in mushrooms. She's like, what?
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Mushrooms were mushrooms?
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You're eating a mushroom right now. It just. It seems.
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You know what a mushroom tastes like, Kathy. You know what it tastes like, Kathy. I mean, I tasted mushrooms. I was watching it. That's why I was like, this should have been a cliffhanger, because this lady is obviously an awful person, because she does. She's clearly trying to have a moment with the mushrooms, and it's just her luck that she's on the season where they don't care about moments like these anymore.
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Yeah. And then there's no spoons for the ice cream, so. Oh, so people have to start running around. Yes, they have to run around. It's like a huge moment. And then is a baked Alaska with Grand Marnier, because you know what you can do with that? Start it on fire. And so he does. Because it's fire. And guess what else it is? Ice.
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It's fire and ice. Fire and ice. You know what else it is? A state. And it's baked. Someone baked the state. Alaska. A lot of things. It's a geography lesson. It's a reference to Northern exposure.
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So then, let's see. So Fraser is like, he nailed it. Look at the excitement on my face. The guests always love your food. Why do you think? Why do you doubt yourself? Is it because I'm running around? Running around, you saying, don't fail, don't fail, don't fail. You smell. Don't fail. Possibly.
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I just always have this feeling to feel like it was not enough. And I'm going to work on that. You know, it's like. But I'm so glad I put my faith in you to come back and show America that I'm not a dick wad after all. Yes. But without you, I would never be at this level on this season. So thank you. Thank you for recommending me brulee at the table. Otherwise I would still be shitty. Shitty chef down in the galley.
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I hope to see you for many, many more seasons together. I'm sorry I'm busy that day, but thank you. Thank you so much. So Kyle and Solane are cuddling up and Kyle's in love. You know, he's like, we've been through a lot, but we both made terrible decisions along the way. And there's been deceit. But now we're back and I'm not with Celine, but there's definitely feelings. Maybe me more so than her, but I'm just such an emotional guy. You're drunk. You're drunk with the shakes. And I think you're just gonna take any blanket that passes you. And also, she's extremely hot. It's not like she's.
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Yeah, he's like extremely.
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I love her.
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Deeply damaged. Yeah, you're damaged. And you're looking for a fairy tale to make it seem like all the damage isn't there, but you're damaged. This is not going to work out. And you, like, I don't care that he, he wants to bang Celine because she is super hot, but like him saying stuff that there's emotions involved. I'm like, please, sir, can you not, can you not bore us with this ridiculousness there? Why are you attaching emotions to this person who already showed you earlier this season that she has no interest in any emotions back towards you? And that's fine as well. But now you're gonna burden us with your emotional. That like, we all can be like, we know your emotional bullshit's fake too, and you're just doing this to feel. Let's make us like feel some sort of like, like, oh, poor Kyle. Kyle. Kyle has it rough. And like, I'm just, I don't want to hear it from you guys.
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On a reality shows, especially this one do that. They're like, oh, my feelings are so hurt. They always do that at the end of the season so that they can go to bars and girls like, oh, your heart was so hurt. I can help you. They're like going for the, you know, the post season poo. Say that's what they're going for.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not buying it. And the only reason you like her is A, she's hot and B, you're an alcoholic and she has one in cigarette breath.
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Yeah, I think that really is it. It's just like, just, I kind of just want him to just stand in it and say like, yeah, she's hot. I just want to bang her a little bit. But when he's like, oh, I'm, I, I can't help it. I just got emotionally attached. I'm like, sir, we saw you banging on the, the piss laden floor of a bathroom three weeks ago. And by the way, when they showed.
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The flashback, you stuck your wiener in big ang like 4 weeks ago.
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And also like, he really talks. Like, this is like the, the great romance of our times. And when they show like at some point during this episode, they show flashbacks. And maybe it could be here where he's like, we've had our ups and our downs. And they show like when he and Ce got together, that was 20 days ago. And then their issue that they had was 11 days ago. I'm like, you're talking about it. This is two weeks. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Like, don't. Just, just Bang. And enjoy it. Like, please don't give us all this emo crap along. I don't want to have to be invested. It's not so much that I'm invested in the emo crap is that then the show gets invested in, and we have slow moments and sadness and, like, I can't. I cannot. I guess I'm really on one today. I'm sorry, Ronnie. I don't know why I'm really, like, I don't know why I'm steaming mad today, but I am really on one today about Blow Deck.
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No, I get it. Look. And you're someone who loves Love Island. So my initial thought is, like, you love it on Love island, but I think it's different because it's Love island, and that's what you see on Love Island. But this. I want to see you clean a toilet, and that's it. It's very important to me. I want to see you clean a toilet. I want to see you forget the forks. I want to see you, you know, like, figure out how to blow up balloons for ice and fire. That's what I want to see.
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That's exactly correct. And I thought about that. I actually had that exact same thought process, which is like, I love when. When there's this drama on Love island, but, like, it's just. It's not like this. This isn't Love Island. And so it's just. It's not what I'm tuning in for.
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This is toilet rush Island. Okay?
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It's Toilet Island.
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It's Toilet Brush Island. Get out your toilet brush. I have no interest in you without a cleaning product in your hand. And that's it.
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Yeah. Yeah. So it's just. It's. It's so tiresome.
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So just to hear, like, I go to the car wash, the entertainment is the bristles coming down over my car and me being in it going, I'm dying. You know, as the things splash you and all that. That's the entertainment. I don't want to go through. Through there and just watch the car. Car wash, guys. That's. This is just not the place for that squirt. My car, not me.
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You really should stop driving convertibles through the car wash, Ronnie. No wonder why they're so traumatic.
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I'm taking my best breath through the car. The car wash.
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I'm dying.
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So, Fraser. This is also an episode where Fraser acts like he just won an Emmy Award. He's like, I can't believe it. I can't believe we're here. My crew, this Season dealt with different obstacles and challenges. There were dinners, there were picnics, toilet cleanings. Feels like we've been chased by a feral dog with rabies, but we pulled it off. Well done to us. I'm very proud. Ow. I actually just got bit by a feral dog with rabies. Damn it. You caught me. That would have made this season, actually, if there was a feral dog with rabies, who would have improved this.
B
I would love that. I would love that as, like, a story arc, because that's actually one frontier that reality TV has truly not taken us to. Is if is just the feral rabies storyline. The. As long as it's caught early and there's no true danger, then it's great. Obviously, we don't want anyone to get true rabies. I remember the one time, and I remember one time, like, when I was, like, 22, my friend Kate had a party and my other. Another Kate, like, slept overnight at the party, and then she woke up in the morning and she had, like, a bruise and she was confused. So she went to the doctor, and they were concerned that a rabid bat had bit her in the middle of the night. So she had to have rabies shots for a few weeks. Yeah. And I just thought, man, that sucks. But also a hilarious concept. The bat got in in the middle of the night and bit her and gave rabies. But by the way, I've. I've always been afraid of rabies. I don't know, I've had this irrational fear.
A
That's not irrational. That is a. A rational fear of getting rabies.
B
It's like, growing up, my house was sort of like. It was like, like, surrounded by, like, sort of like a big wooded area. Like, my driveway was like, I had to walk, like, like, down this long driveway to get to the bus stop. And I was always afraid a rapid raccoon was going to come out of the woods and bite me.
A
Yeah. I read Very Fresh 12 and I have. I always wanted someone around me to get rabies. I didn't necessarily want to get it, but, like, Cujo is basically a mom and a her son hiding in a car as this dog is attacking their car. And they're like, oh, my God, how do we get to the front door? And the car won't start? And then, oh, God, now we have to get around. Now we have to get around this dog. That's the whole book. And it was so scary. And I just always wanted to find a way to get my sister rabies, because I can imagine, like, me and my mom hiding in the station wagon while my sister is banging up against the car. My sister's, like, so sweet, by the way. So just imagining her all feral out there like, let me in, Mommy. Let me in. And we just wouldn't let her in. That was always my dream as a kid, which is probably kind of sick. As far as Fraser goes, you know, saying things like, feels like we've been chased with a feral dog with rabies. You know, Fraser seems fine and everything. I think he did an okay job this season. But overall, my overall note is I need more cow valley. And that's it. I just. I need. Feels like we've been chased by a feral dog with rabies. Like, you're fired, you know?
B
Yeah, I think.
A
Get out.
B
I think it's time. I need more Razor also, because, like, honestly, like, he didn't. He did an all right job. I think that's Elaine. I think Celine sucks. I'm sorry. Celine sucks.
A
I love her, and she's an icon.
B
I. I feel like I was like that with her for so long. I was like, she's hilarious. Like, she has this really ridiculous attitude. But then I really. I had this moment last night where I was like, you know, we all know she's a terrible worker. She's a terrible worker. But at a moment last night watching this show where I was like, you know what? I think I, like, just in time for the season to end, I kind of hit my wall with her, and I went from being like, oh, she's so amusing, to, like, she's like, she fucking sucks. I'm sorry. Celine fucking sucks. She, like, is a bad worker. She's obnoxious. She really only cares about herself. And you know that Bravo's gonna bring her back because she's kind of a breakout star of the season, and she. I mean, she's already gonna be on Love Island Games. So I just feel like. I don't know, I'm just like, she sucks. And Frazier Fraser should have, like, acknowledged, like, he should have seen that, and you should have seen, like, how much work other people were having to put in because of her. And because he had some sort of, like, ego thing that he was, like, not going to fire someone because he wanted to change his image for the season. I think that's shitty because other people had to suffer for what he wanted to prove to, like, himself in America, and he should have fired Slain a long time ago. And that is my feeling on that.
A
Well, other people may have suffered, but I gained because she brought me so much Entertainment. Like, I literally, if they sold posters of Celine, I would buy one and put it in my room. Like, I love her. And I think that there's reason he kept her was because as bad as she was, it made him look better in his mind to the audience because he was finding a way to keep her. And so that was his only. So I think his big arc for the season was like, look at me. I've gotten to the point where I don't fight with anyone, even if they're Sir Lane. Didn't I do a good job? When meanwhile, it means he kind of did a bad job because he didn't. He can't win. You know, I'm sure in his mind he's like, I can't win with these fucking people. You know, like, first they're mad at me for fighting with people and firing them, and now they're mad at me for not fighting with someone and firing them. But the thing is, you were in trouble before because you were, like, having like, really weird, immature fights with a bunch of girls, which is never a great look, honestly. And you were taking it too. You were getting way too personal with it and getting way too, like, bitchy with people in your job. And it was. It was unprofessional. You know, it wasn't that you thought Camille sucked. Camille did suck. It's like how you went about it was. Was very immature. So, you know, you can't win. You didn't win. But yeah, no, I mean, thank you for keeping Celine.
B
I mean, I. Look, look, my. My Celine feeling kicked in right at the right time. I got like a whole season's worth of entertainment from her. And then at the last minute, I just sort of had this moment of like, oh, Bravo's gonna probably bring this girl back. And that's so shitty because she is like, she's bad. I'm not saying she's a bad person, but she's like, so self involved, she's so obnoxious, and she causes so much damage to people around her. I was like, God, she really sucks. And she. And I think what was terrible is that, like, Fraser, I think in the past, maybe he got in trouble for, like, wanting to fire someone too quickly. And so, like, it was good that he, like, really tried to work with someone and tried to make it and tried to make it last. But at a certain point, like, you know, you're. You're rewarding someone for getting marginally better and punishing someone who's actually working really, really hard, like Rainbow. And I Just think that's like. I don't know. I think that's like. And I think that. I think that she should have been symbolically fired for this last episode. Personally, even though the charter was over, I think still fire her ass.
A
Yeah. Just on the last day, he's like, we're not gonna fire her on the drop day. And I think the audience would have have really liked him more if he had been like, you're terrible. Please leave. And then so, you know, we could have just watched Rainbow, like, have a nervous breakdown as she had to change all the sheets herself. I mean, that would have been a good ending.
B
I. In fact, I actually thought that that's we're gonna be getting that. I was like, okay, there will be some justice. Anyway, enough of my ranting. I'm. I'm sorry. I'm just really ranting today.
A
Are you sorry? That's what we do. I'm not even in a bad things.
B
No, I'm not even a bad mood. I'm just like. I'm like, maybe I'm in a bad mood. I don't know. Am I in a bad mood? I don't know.
A
Are you in a bad mood? Well, this is also kind of an early morning recording for us. We had a meeting that we had to get up for on the east coast this morning, so we're recording a little early. But I like it.
B
I think I'm in a bad mood.
A
If this is a bad mood, I like it.
B
I think I'm actually in a good mood. I think I'm in a good mood.
A
Listen, who cares? You're allowed to sit around a bitch. Who are you apologizing to? That's all we do every day. So anyway, it's a final night of charter and there's a fireworks show. It's huge. And everyone acts like they've never seen fireworks before. Like, oh, my God, it's fireworks. Thank you, Daddy. I did it for you, Daddy. And yeah, fireworks. It is cool seeing them close up like that because this is where, like, fireworks can kill you. You know, where they're so close. They didn't though. It's like, there's no Feral dogs. No one got hit by a firework. So it's all kind of a letdown.
B
Yeah. Remember the time when they did a. A big fireworks show? July 4th fireworks show down in San Diego, and there was an error and they set up all the fireworks all at once.
A
Oh, my God. Yeah. That's terrible. There was something that happened like that this summer somewhere, and it Was insane. Like, a fireworks factory went off.
B
It was like, oh, yeah, that happens every once in a while. Once in a while, someone, like, something goes wrong in a fireworks factory, and it's real chaos. But I just remember that San Diego thing. All these people showed up, found a picnic blanket, and got ready for their big fireworks show. And then they all went off in five seconds and it was over. And it was like, wait, what? Oh, God, fireworks. They're hilarious. Frazier says, I finished this season with the same interior team, and I'm so happy about it. Every season has different personalities. Every year is a whole new game and test. But this year, I think I passed. No, you failed. You did not fire your worst stew, who is terrible. Okay, I'm gonna say you failed on this one.
A
And they give him a big stamp that said past. I wish it was spelled P A S T. I'm the past. Because they had a commercial for Below Deck Med. And just seeing Daisy with her new haircut, I was like, why am I so excited to just see Daisy with a new haircut and, like, on a different boat? I was like, this is the excitement I need when I see the Chief Stew coming back. And I'm like, oh, my God, I can't wait to see what Daisy's like, what's she gonna do without Gary? What's she gonna do without calling? What's gonna happen? And I just, you know, I'm sorry for it. I just don't feel it. So. Carrie. Oh, sorry.
B
Just as. Just as a. Just so we, you know, people will write in. Daisy was actually in the Salt Lake City preview because they're going to go on to the low deck down underboat on Salt Lake City this season. Not mad.
A
No, that's right.
B
I'm just letting. I'm saying that only because other people will say, actually, it wasn't Blow Deck Med that you saw it on.
A
That was down under. You're right. Yeah. But still, you know, and, well, that one happened. And that's another one. Asha also had that cute haircut. They both got that same short bob kind of haircut, actually. So I did see a bob. So I was correct about that. I was very excited about another bob, but it was Asha's bob, and I felt the same excitement about her. You know, you felt.
B
So both bobs were exciting, as they should be.
A
You know what? You've been out entertained by two bobs, Fraser. Okay? Two separate bobs have both out entertained you.
B
If Fraser comes on next season with Asia's little bob, that would be hilarious. I've changed up my look a little bit.
A
Fraser's like, I'm doing what I can this season. The audience said that they liked Bob's. So here I am, back with the bulb.
B
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A
Daddy.
B
With impossibly thin eyebrows.
A
You see, Daddy. Thank you, Daddy. This is for you, Daddy. As the chef leaves. As the captain leaves. So Damo hangs with the guests and is still, you know, they're still wooing about things like, oh my, go to baked Alaska.
B
Woo.
A
Fireworks. Woo. We're single. And Damos like, wow, they're a huge temptation. Look, they're hot. They're rich enough to charter a yacht. And if you're looking for a future ex fiance, I'm here to play. You're so gross. And also, someone posted in a comment on Instagram, I thought, I think her name was Betty Ba or Betty Ba. I'm sorry, I forgot your name. I. I promised myself I would remember your name because I freaking loved this comment. She said, Damo looks just like Steve Martin. I cannot get it out of my head yet. He has Steve Martin face. He has his face. None of his charm or talent, unfortunately, but he's definitely got the face.
B
Steve Martin face with like 1987 Annie Potts hair. Yes.
A
Yes. Isn't it crazy? He has his exact face.
B
It is wild, actually.
A
Only herpes in the building. So he checks on the guest. He's like, is there anything you need? And they're like, probably. Woo.
B
Woo.
A
Please. One of those basic bees. Please, please do it. I dare you, you hypocrite.
B
So now it's late at night and Celine and Rainbow, it's their final lates. And Rainbow is like, oh my God, this is the last late list. Oh my God. This is good, bro. Yeah. And so it's like, yes, this is the last one. Last one. I hate doing this. Me too. Me too. Tonight is the last. So I want to play. I want to have fun because I really work hard. I do my best all the time. Period. Okay? And this, I think this is the time for celebrating. And no more leaves.
A
So she pours herself a gigantic glass of wine. And then the guests are hanging out on the deck and they're talking about drinking and wanting to do shots. Let's do shots with Damo. He's so sexy. Tell us about Martin Short. Is he really funny? So they do an ice luge shot thing and then let's see. So Selene is doing shots with them. Yeah. So, yeah. She's doing that, and Rainbow sees that and she's like, are you kidding me, bro? I'm so irritated. Taking shots with guests, doing fuck all at night. Like, I don't understand how you are this selfish and narcissistic. Fuck all this bullshit, you stupid bitch.
B
I'll see you in the. The Dutch Island. One woman enters, two women enter, one woman leaves. Cislane is like, okay, go.
A
Okay.
B
I'm going to jump. I'm going to jump on you gonna jump like this, so just be ready. And Rampa's like, yeah, okay. Mary Lou Bratton, can we just, like, do whatever we're gonna do after work? Because I really need Celine to, like, be here and, like, that way I can go to bed. Okay. Like, it's latte. We don't care. Okay, don't. Okay, move your arm away. And then Celine just, like, runs across the deck and, like, jumps onto Damo in such a way. I actually rewound this a few times. I was like, how did she do that? She, like, jumped and, like, her legs wound up, like, above his shoulders.
A
Oh, she was above his shoulders. I thought she was just, like, on his waist.
B
No, those legs were up by his neck.
A
Wow.
B
I was like, finally you do something skillful, skill based.
A
Yeah. Now if you could only, you know, maybe do that with a fork and knife in your couch, you could set a table decently.
B
That's all she needed.
A
Yeah. So now Dambo's with Rainbow, and he's asking if she needs help. And she's like, I'm done too. I'm just doing laundry. I mean, so. So might need a hand. But I'm not helping her. And if I was the chief Stew, I would. Would never hire her. He's like, well, she's not a yachty. She's a socialite. A socialite. That's a pretty loose use of that term. Where'd he come up with that? She's not a socialite. What has she ever donated other than her spit?
B
Yeah, I'm. I'm not sure. I'm. She's social. Lights off. So then. And he's like. And you don't ever have to work with her ever again. So she's like, I'm not. And I'm thankful. Okay, so now demos goes down, and now Celine is. Celine is, like, doing handstands, and she's like, oh, this is nice. This is nice doing. This is nice. Also, I love when she, like, jumped into Damo's arms afterwards. She's like, I love to jump. So now she's like jumping and doing handstands. Maybe she was like a gymnast at some point, which. Did she ever say she was like training to be a gymnast as a child? She's surprisingly like, athletic.
A
No, but I like that the producers were like, okay, Celine, it's the season finale. Nothing has happened. Just please try to give Rainbow a nervous breakdown. Sick. Okay, I will do. I'm not children. So she's just gonna do whatever she can. And this has to kill Rainbow because she's also jumping all over the guy that Rainbow's been flirting with. You know which Rainbow either. And then he does the ultimate when he says, good night, Cinderella. Because he's not saying like, good night, Cinderella from the ball. He's saying good night, Cinderella on the ground picking up little rice bits so she can eventually take a bath and go to a ball. You know, it's like she just gets kicked in the nuts over and over again tonight.
B
Yeah, she really does. So then it's like 3:30 in the morning and Selena's like drinking this wine and Rainbow comes into the to the salon and she's like, like, you're not supposed to be drinking. The only reason I'm awake is because you're taking so long to finish.
A
I'm still working. I'm not. I'm not just chilling. I'm doing work too, bro.
B
I want to go to bed. Okay.
A
No, I know. No, I know it's not funny. I know it's not funny.
B
Are you kidding me? No. You know what? You bro. You. You bro.
A
You. Dutch.
B
You. Okay, Dutch, You. I've only ever tried to help you, and you're standing there and you're laughing. I genuinely think you are the worst person I've ever had to work with.
A
No, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
B
You don't even give a.
A
You don't even give a.
B
You don't give a. I am gently so thankful I never have to work with you again. I am just like so over it. Okay.
A
I don't know. You don't have to be pink. You don't have to be pink like that. I don't know why you're so pink.
B
Pink?
A
Are you pink?
B
Well, her name is literally Rainbow, but like, her face is. Her face is red. She's screaming. Sorry. And by the way, they're also screaming, there are guests downstairs. I was like, you guys both need to shut it right now. Like, you're acting like it's an off day, but there are guests down there and of course. I thought this was gonna be a thing. The guests heard fighting and it gets back to Captain Carrie and they both are gonna get reprimanded or no, no, it wasn't.
A
Yeah. So it's the final day, 7am I have a three page long letter from Rainbow because of course Rainbow's like, oh, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna tell on her. I'm gonna tell on. So, so. Oh, good one, Rainbow. First of all, you've told on her for the past three weeks over like stupid, like I saw her standing there like hugging someone, smoking a cigarette, which literally no one is gonna care about. And now no one cares about it. You know, like you've got to save them up. And also she's texting Fraser while he's asleep and he gave her the job of dealing with this girl. So I don't know who you think you're making look bad, but it's kind of you because you're supposed to be managing her. Although Selene sucks. So just let me just practice. I get, I get where Selena is coming from, but her whole like, I'm gonna go tattletail of Fraser and we're see, we'll see how she likes it. And he's like, I don't care, I don't care. Do you understand? Listen, the Fraser without a Bob would have cared, but this new Fraser doesn't. And she's wildly entertaining.
B
Yeah, I mean like Rambo. Like her tattling is just delivered in such a sort of like, like angry kid sister way that no one takes it seriously and she just needs to work on her gravitas. She needs to. She needs to. She needs to. Instead of doing things like Fraser. So you didn't give Selena break. We're not doing breaks yet. Right. Because she's out there having bowl cereal. It's like that's like not going to be as effective as sitting down saying, I'm doing a lot of the work, I need you to help here as my supervisor because I'm reaching my wits end because she's not doing what she needs to do and it's affecting my performance or something like that. But like the tattling means that when you get to a situation like this, you're just not taken seriously. And it's actually kind of because I, I just think that like Fraser has Elaine's back more than, than rainbows and he should have Rainbow's back more, but she doesn't make it easy for herself by being so, so tattly.
A
Well, we all know. You know, when there's two little kids and one runs to their mom constantly, it's like, oh, my God, Ronnie trying to pull out my eyelashes. Eventually the. The mom's just gonna be like, you know what? No one likes a tattletale. You know? You know what, Carly? No one likes a tattletale. Go to your room. And then she gets in trouble. And meanwhile I've got like, eyelashes that I'm gluing onto my doll, and I'm just happy as pie.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
And that's just how it is. She's the tattletale. No one likes the tattletale. And also she tattletales badly because she's like, oh my God, she's drinking with the guests and she's fucking around. And then she's drinking wine, white wine, while she cleans. Okay, but you put while she cleans into the complaint, which means she's actually working and drinking white wine. And no one's going to get mad at her for doing that on the last night. They're just not.
B
And honestly, no one would if. Yeah, but, but also, if you're going to, if you're going to like, spend the energy to tattle, you're. You're basically tattling into a void. You might as well at this point, like, tattle to carry. Right? Right. Like it's your last night. If, if Celine's gonna go for it, why don't you go for it? Why don't you do. Why don't you be the Celine of tattling and just. Yeah, and just tell Captain Carrie and let him do a symbolic firing. Because honestly, I can't imagine that a captain would be happy about that. I feel like a captain would say, I don't care. Like, I don't care if it's day one or day Zed, you're out of here. There's a super yacht. You gotta have standards. And let this be a lesson so you can grow floors. What an honor. It's been here for me to see you flourish as I follow you. Like, I would have loved that.
A
Well, and also stop picking up her slack and just say, hey, Fraser, it's 2 in the morning. I've done as I've done 75% of this list. I'm exhausted. Celine's drunken is refusing to finish. So you deal with that how you want to deal with it. Bye. And that's it. Like, if Fraser wants to be like this the whole season and let you take up the slack, then just say, listen, Fraser, I've Done more than I can do. And like, legally it's probably not legal because it's international. But like my union says I need this amount of sleep and she's not doing her job. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead and leave that up to you. And then, boom, leave it up to him. And then that frustration falls on him. But like picking up all season and then complaining about it, like doing all of her work for her and then complaining about it is just not the way to go. And I see why she's doing it because she wants to, to prove that she's like the hardest worker. But that comes with a price tag. You just need to say she's not doing her job. And the job doesn't get done when everybody's woken up and she gets yelled at. You won't get yelled at. She will. And Fraser is ultimately the manager of all of you. So if she's not getting it done, Fraser is ultimately responsible. So I think she just needs kind of a different tactic because Rainbow is, you know, as a person probably super annoying, but she's a good worker and she's painting herself into a corner with all this enabling bullshit.
B
I think we need to open up a tattle clinic for future stews. Like listen, when you get onto that boat, this is how you tattle. Yeah, this is.
A
Yeah, you manipulate. You do you know there's ways that you have to, to massage the situation. Crying and stomping your feet just is not it. That's not how to lead. I mean, unless you're leading.
B
Look how Damo does it.
A
Unless you're leading America, that's not really the way to lead.
B
I would say follow Damo's lead because he tattles very effectively. He, he. Although he's also a guy and like people tend to be more open to, I think men tattling than women tattling. I think when woman tattles, people like, oh whatever, she's just a tattle. But then like if a guy does, it's like, oh, that's pretty cool that the bro brought me some interesting observations, you know, man. But either way, I think like Damo was very effective with his tattling this season and Rainbow just has to like, just has to learn how to, how to make sure her message really drives home.
A
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Lemke we cannot tell a lie It's Sarah tell of son Shannon out of.
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A can and Anthony please don't stop at solely and pop let's take off with Tamla playing She ain't no shrinking.
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Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Episode: #3000 – Below Deck S12E16 Part One: French Disconnection
Release Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
This milestone episode of Watch What Crappens finds Ben and Ronnie diving into the Below Deck Season 12 finale, “Over the Rainbow” (S12E16), offering their signature blend of mockery, pop culture insight, and Bravo superfan energy. The hosts discuss the perceived decline of this particular Below Deck season, analyze cast dynamics, and indulge in rants about reality TV tropes, all while keeping things light and witty.
"I thought it was the worst season they've ever had. I'm saying it right now, everyone. I'm saying it right now." (03:36)
This episode is a must-listen for Bravo and Below Deck fans fed up with manufactured romance and missing the petty, work-based mishaps of earlier seasons. Ben and Ronnie highlight the absurd structure of the finale, relentlessly roast the cast’s failings (with playful affection), and offer real talk on workplace dynamics—relevant to Bravo super-fans and anyone who’s ever had a bad co-worker. The episode’s final minutes double down on why knowing how (and when) to tattle is the unsung superpower of any Chief Stew—or reality TV contestant.
Favorite Closing Exchange:
End of Part One Recap. Tune in for Part Two of the Below Deck S12E16 breakdown!