#3002 RHOSLC S601 Part One: The Mer Witch Project

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3002 — RHOSLC S601 Part One: The Mer Witch Project (09/17/2025)

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Episode Overview

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive into the season premiere of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 6, dissecting the absurdity, drama, and signature Salt Lake weirdness. The episode—“The Mer Witch Project”—spoofs horror tropes, kicks off with a chaotic girls' trip, and sets the stage for a season heavy on villain edits, mounting lawsuits, and campy Bravo antics. Ben and Ronnie praise the show’s willingness to embrace its “blatantly stupid” energy and cover the evolving dynamics, notably Lisa Barlow’s absence and everyone’s schemes to snatch the spotlight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Initial Impressions & Thematic Ridiculousness

• Ben: "Salt Lake City is the only Housewives show that can have a premiere like this—heavily produced, stupid... we're supposed to believe they're getting lost in the woods and attacked by a ghost. It's ridiculous, but so funny" (04:28).
• Ronnie: Agrees, loving the camp, and notes that the cast came “ready to go” with old fights and new acting. Ronnie especially delights in Heather’s perennial “I’m just innocent” act and suspects she orchestrated the Blair Witch spoof. “Heather’s the biggest hokey producer… she’s the one who’s like, let's make a whole Blair Witch episode” (06:56).

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2. Lisa Barlow’s Absence: Villain Edit & Ramifications

• Ben: Shares scoop from Hollywood Reporter that Lisa’s absence wasn't entirely contractual. "Bravo’s going to punish her all season long for skipping the opening trip" (05:47).
• Ronnie: Frames this as a strategic misstep: “It shows they can do the show without you, and that’s never good… don’t do it. Be careful. Baby Gorgeous, I need you in my life” (06:28).
• Memorable Quote:
  • “If you are not doing what [production] want, they're going to find a way to make you look bad. So you got to play.” — Ben (06:15)

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3. Character Archetypes & Season Setups

• Heather: “More media trained than ever,” according to Ben (19:35). Her interviews are notably polished, sticking to her “wacky housewife” shtick.
• Whitney: Already moving to play the “sweet, innocent” angle for the premiere.
• Bronwyn: Ronnie predicts a sophomore slump, expecting the cast—and eventually viewers—to turn on her. However, “Watching the premiere, I remembered all the things I liked about Bronwyn. She’s so sharp with a clap back” (08:10).
• Mary: Still unimpressed and disinterested, especially by enforced group activities and the very idea of an RV.

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4. The RV Trip: Pranks, Strippers & Class Divide

• Angie & Mary: Angie arrives in a massive RV (dressed for work, per Mary's shade). Mary’s history with RVs (via her grandmother) makes her loathe the idea: “I did this as a kid. I don't need to do this as an adult. Okay, thanks” (13:36).
• Travel Style: Ben and Ronnie riff on how RHOSLC is the “parking lot cast”—used to makeshift setups, Costco cheese plates in the snow, and low-budget ‘glam’. “Spending a night in an RV is par for the course” (16:22).
• Strippers: A SWAT “raid” on the RV is an elaborate prank that leads to male strippers awkwardly trying to perform in the cramped space. Mary is horrified: “You don’t even know me!” (30:18)
  • Memorable Quote: “They didn't even have to whack anybody in the face with their dongs. Lunchtime, Chili's boys.” — Ronnie (29:31)

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5. Lisa’s Absence Takes Center Stage (Again)

• The rest of the cast immediately discusses Lisa dodging the trip. Longstanding grievances and alliances resurface:
  • Heather: “Why are we going on a girl’s trip with five ongoing disputes? That's actually kind of tame for this group/Bravo’s making us do this” (21:07).
  • Ronnie on Lisa’s phone presence: “I love Lisa, but I don’t ever want to get stuck on the phone with her. She just goes on and on about herself and never takes a breath” (32:10).
  • Ben (mocking Lisa): “I don’t want to name drop, but people forget I have, like, a very full plate. It’s, like, so full. I’ll be with Ben Affleck and Blake Lively.” (32:41)
  • Whitney and Brittany spiral into MLM jokes and accusations about each other’s businesses.

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6. Lunch, Camcorders, & Past-its-Prime Technology

• Gift Bags (Sort Of): Brittany sets up a group activity with branded camcorders. The hosts riff on how “Here it’s a camcorder” is the Salt Lake equivalent of Beverly Hills’ designer swag (45:15).
• The group ultimately plays along, shooting faux interviews and silly camp videos (“I love that this cast, they'll do it. We all hate Britney, want to set her on fire, but we'll play with camcorders” — Ronnie, 43:02).

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7. Conflict Table: MLMs, Lawsuits, and Lies

• MLM Accusations: Jokes about Whitney’s new candy business (“I came up with these like chocolate coated candies… I'm gonna call them MLMs, not M&Ms. So it's a little bit better.” — Brittany as Whitney, 35:30)
• Lisa’s Lawsuits: A significant chunk devoted to rumors swirling around “multiple lawsuits” Lisa faces. Bronwyn is particularly invested in airing Lisa’s dirty laundry.
  • Ben: “I mean, Lisa and I have worked really hard on our friendship, and I want to be a supportive friend. So every instinct in my body is: defend your friend... and get me a small bolero jacket to hide in.” (53:26)
  • The cast debates the gravity of these lawsuits, with jokes about not understanding what a lawsuit even is (51:36).

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8. Jen Shah Comparisons (“The New Gensha?”)

• Angie throws a bomb: “It's similar to what Jen Shah did” (54:15).
  • Ben: Predicts this will spark a running feud for the season—“How could you say I was like Gensha? That is the worst thing you could ever say about me.” (54:23)
• Heather and Bronwyn get into a spat about past lies, specifically the $4M necklace—“Shouldn’t have said I own the necklace when I didn’t have it… that's my trust to bear” (57:56).

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• “It was like a blatantly stupid premiere. And it was so funny. They're the only show that can do this.” — Ben (04:28)
• “This is the parking lot cast. You know, they do everything in the parking lot.” — Ronnie (17:32)
• “You don't even know me!” — Mary to stripper (30:18)
• “You buy an MLM, then you sell it to someone, and they sell the MLM, and before you know it, everyone has diabetes.” — Ronnie, MLM discussion (35:56)
• “I don't even understand Angie's analogy. I mean, these are not criminal charges. This is a civil lawsuit… This is coming from DJ lawyer Meredith Marks, okay?” — Ronnie (55:10)
• “You just got caught red handed lying about a four million dollar necklace.” — Heather (57:04)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:17 | Ben & Ronnie first impressions: embracing SLC's camp/horror spoof | | 04:28 | Ben on the show’s “blatantly stupid” premiere | | 05:47 | Ben and Ronnie dissect Lisa Barlow's absence and production ‘revenge’ | | 10:41 | The “Blair Witch” opening and the mockery of fake friendship/sisterhood | | 13:36 | Angie and Mary’s RV trip begins; Mary openly dreads it | | 18:01 | The group gathers at Beauty Lab, discusses Lisa skipping the trip | | 20:57 | Heather rehashes cast grievances & alliances, pivots to lawsuit chatter | | 26:23 | Entering the RV—Bronwyn’s germaphobe complaints | | 28:18 | Prank “SWAT team” leads to awkward stripper scene in the RV | | 32:10 | Lisa’s “excuses” for missing the trip & Ben’s lengthy Lisa impression | | 35:30 | MLM jokes as Whitney’s candy business scheme dramatized | | 39:30 | Arrival at Provo River Resort, cast laments the lack of luxury | | 41:58 | Brittany’s camcorder activity—group nostalgia/jokes about SLC “party favors” | | 45:15 | Ben compares SLC gifts to Beverly Hills, quips about camcorders as luxury | | 50:22 | The cast airs dirty laundry regarding Lisa’s lawsuits and nonattendance | | 54:15 | Angie compares Lisa’s legal issues to Jen Shah—“This will be a thing” | | 57:04 | Heather counters Bronwyn’s hypocrisy with the $4M necklace lie |

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Summary Tone & Style

Staying true to Ben and Ronnie’s irreverent wit, the episode balances roast-level mocking with a baseline of affection for Salt Lake City’s uniquely messy style. The hosts weave in pop culture references, inside Bravo jokes, and exaggerated role-play (notably lampooning Lisa, Heather, Mary, and Whitney), maintaining a tone both openly derisive and delighted by the “crappens” of it all.

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For those who haven’t watched the episode, Ben and Ronnie’s recap—while hilariously savage—highlights the peculiar brilliance of RHOSLC: not just the fights or feuds, but the willingness to produce an entire premiere around a hammy haunted woods motif, and to lean into the quirks that make these Housewives and their city so distinct.

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

Hi.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Well, thank you everybody.

[Ronnie]

Welcome to the show. Today is a very important day. It's a very special time in our lives because it is the premiere, the season premiere of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. If you want to watch this recap on video, join us over at Patreon for Crappin's on Demand. That's also where we do our bonus episodes. We've got a few new trailer or a couple new trailer trashes up over there. So go check that out there for Real Housewives of Potomac and Below Deck Med. And coming this week, probably Wife Swap. I don't know. The Bravo Wife Swap thing. Who knows? There's.

[Ben]

I'm not sure there's a trailer for that. I think.

[Ronnie]

I thought there was. Oh, you can look.

[Ben]

It might just.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Oh, it's so silly. I mean, I laughed. It's Salt Lake City is the only Housewives show that can have a premiere like this. Like kind of heavily produced. Stupid. You know, this like a cliffhanger. That's not even a cliffhanger. Like we're supposed to believe they're getting lost in the woods and are going to be attacked by a ghost. Like that's, it's ridiculous. Like this is. It was like, it was like a blatantly stupid premiere. And it was so funny. Like they're the only show that can do this. Like normally, you know me, I would get mad. I'll get in a tizzy. Like this scripted, but it was, it was good. And Lisa not being there. I just read a. An article in the Hollywood Reporter that was an interview with, among other people, the showrunner for Salt Lake City and also an executive at Bravo. And they were like, yeah, you know, like, the question was whether or not Lisa wasn't there because she hadn't signed on yet. It was question whether or not she's gonna come back. They're like, no.

[Brittany]

I mean, you know.

[Ben]

You know, we really do think that she had to work. I mean, if she chose, you know, she could she have moved her work trip, like, maybe. But that was her choice.

[Brittany]

And, you know, it allowed the women.

[Ben]

To all talk about her with her without her being there in a way.

[Brittany]

That they wouldn't have normally been able to. And I think we'll see the ramifications.

[Ben]

Of it throughout the season. I was like, okay, Bravo is going to punish her all season long for skipping the opening trip.

[Ronnie]

Got it.

[Ben]

What did you think?

[Ronnie]

Another Lisa Barlow villain edit, which I love because she makes it so easy too, you know, I mean, even in the clips they showed. Although the clips they showed today were pretty unfair because they show clips of Lisa being evil and telling people off and having an opinion, but it's all in retaliation as shit they started. So Team Lisa. Thank you, Team Lisa Barlow.

[Ben]

Team Baby Gorgeous, you got to show up. You got to show, Baby Gorgeous, you got to show up for the cast trips. Otherwise, production will always get their revenge. If you are not doing what they want, they're going to find a way to make you look bad. So you got to play.

[Ronnie]

Well, not only that, but it shows that they can do the show without you, you know, and that's not. That's never good. That's really backfired, and it's blown up in people's faces many times when they're like, I almost. I'm not going to go. And then they're like, oh, it was still entertaining without you. Bye. We're not going to pay you your, you know, zillion dollars a year or whatever they. I mean, it's not a zillion. It's Housewives, but still, we're not gonna pay you that money, so don't do it. Be careful. Baby Gorgeous, I need you in my life. So here we start. I loved it. I mean, I died laughing the whole time. I thought it was hilarious, you know, and everybody came back kind of ready to go, like with the old seasons fights, but, you know, kind of on a new. Heather's doing that. Look at me. I'm just innocent. Heather, which she does every season. Like what? I didn't hear that. You know, she does her. And then Heather's the biggest hokey producer, you know, because she's the one who's like, let's make a whole Blair Witch episode, you know, so yeah, she's ma'. Am.

[Ben]

That she's clearly like. Yeah, she's clearly like had her fingerprints all over this stupid premise for this episode. Yes.

[Ronnie]

Whitney. You know, we see, we see everybody setting up their ham handed seasons. We see everybody trying their. Their sweet innocent act for the first episode. Bronwyn coming back, just acting like, look at me. Just fun loving girl, you know?

[Ben]

Loved it.

[Ronnie]

I thought it was great. Mary complaining about everything. Meredith staying calm for about five seconds. I love Britney that they invited Britney back and didn't make her a full time housewife, but still brought her back. I think that was very important. That was a good move. So overall I loved it. I mean, listen, if I can laugh and this was super sized. So if you can laugh for a full hour and a half, I give them credit.

[Ben]

Yeah. 100 and I was again, I think this is definitely going to be the season that the audience is going to turn on Bronwyn because sophomore seasons are tough. The. I feel like the cast is going to go after her. She was popular last season and people were already kind of. You were pretty early in. In sort of get it, like sort of being skeptical about her. And by the end of the season people were already like really starting to go in that direction. And I was like, this can be the season. And even I'm like that. I'm like, like, it's infectious. It gets into you, like under your skin. But then watching the premiere, I was like, oh, I. I'm like remembering all the things I really liked about Bronwyn and like how quick and how sharp she is with like a clap back. She's just.

[Ronnie]

I just missed the head. The constant head nodding.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Of Bronwyn. There's a lot of head nodding work in this recap because it's Ronwyn and Meredith. So in one show. We're going to need to like get our next back in order. You know, I'm weird of Marx and then there's. You agree with that. Yes. So you are saying you're a stupid, dumb bitch and you deserve to die. Mm. You are. So there's all of that. So let's get going with it. We open with everybody recording themselves on camcorders and it's just wacky and it's like one of Those girls. Here we are in camcorders and we hear Mary in the voiceover saying, true friendship unfolds over time, shaped by hardship, grace, shared memories, and made safe with trust. But when trust is gone, fear takes over and Blaine points fingers and friend turns against friend. And then it turns into a horror movie.

[Ben]

Yeah. And the footage is like, when it's the happy part of that little monologue. We see them on these camcorders and they're together and they're joking and they're sweet. It's like summer camp. And they're like, oh, friendships. True friendships. I was like, none of you guys are true. Truly friends. You guys all hate each other. Okay? We've sat through five seasons of you guys yelling at each other nonstop over the stupidest things. Okay? Like, please, let's not pretend you're really friends.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. They're like, oh, it's just sisterhood. It's housewives. It's all about the sisterhood. And then, boom. They're all running and afraid of getting killed by something in the woods. And it's all black and white. And they're all shooting themselves with camcorders, but they're doing it from under their faces where they're holding their flashlights. And that's just never where you want to shoot with you start getting facial work done. You know what I mean? Cuz, like, only the facade looks right. The minute you start turning and having angles, you start seeing all the staples.

[Ben]

Yeah. That's why everyone on Love island looks crazy, because they all have their faces, like, specifically custom to their one angle that they have on social media, on like, TikTok or on Instagram. So the moment that you see them sort of like in motion from different angles, everything feels weird. But what's also funny in retrospect, this monologue of, like, when the trust is gone, fear takes over and blame points fingers, yada, yada, yada. And we see this Blair Witch footage. They did not get lost in the woods and chased by a ghost because they lost trust with each other. They are doing this because Heather said, let's go into the woods and find a ghost. This was. This actually was because of trusts.

[Brittany]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You trusted the wrong girlfriend and now she's feeding you to some ghost. So Angie pulls up to Mary's house in an rv, which is horrifying. I mean, thinking of Anthony driving an RV around. Love that. That should be allowed.

[Ben]

Yeah. I was actually a little surprised that. Well, at first, you know, she pulls up and she's behind the wheel. So I thought okay, they sh. They shot the RV coming in and then they got like a pickup of her sitting at the wheel to make it look like she drove it. But she. Angie actually drives an rv and she's in like a little business suit. And it was surprising. And Angie's like, mary Cosby, here we go. You ready for your class a Greek away. I mean, get away. And Mary's like, why are you dressed like you're going to the office?

[Ronnie]

And Andrea continues the tradition of talking to Mary like she's a 90 year old woman, you know, that she's taken care of. She's like, hello, Mary, Are you excited to go on a get away? Everything she said. And Mary just disses her and she just ignores it. And she's like, yeah, can you believe we're doing this, Auntie Mary? Mary's like, no. So then we meet Teague, the driver. He's going to be driving, and Angie is wearing this huge crazy bow dress like a linebacker bow. And she's like, I know by the look of this dress you wouldn't believe that I would be into RV living. And I wasn't until Sean forced me to buy one. But now it has been the funnest time bonding with my family. And it's the only RV they could find that has a bed the size of a football field so that she doesn't have to touch her husband. That's sweet.

[Ben]

I'm waiting for them to like, renovate the interior so it's just a gleaming, stark white RV on the inside with like one like, piece of pink that's like a piece of art that Electra made. Once it dawned on me, why have I never done this with the ladies? And I know the perfect person to host it with, and it's going to be Mary. Mary is. Is unwittingly co hosting a trip in an rv, which does not seem like something Mary is totally down for. And by not seems like something she's totally down for. She hates it. She hates this entirely.

[Ronnie]

No, she's like, yeah, I did this as a kid. I don't need to do this as an adult. Okay, thanks. Because her grandma owned RVs, which means that Mary owned RVs because Mary inherited all that stuff because she married the grandma's husband. So I just sold all these RVs, okay? They all smelled like my grandpa. I mean, my husband and I. I don't need to be in this again, okay?

[Ben]

I. When I was a kid, I wanted an RV so badly. Like, the idea of like, that you could be sitting At a table while you drive somewhere was so amazing to me. And I don't. I mean, I've stepped inside of, like, trail trailers before or, like, I think I've been inside an rv, but I've never actually driven somewhere in an rv. And, like, I don't like the idea of actually being the driver in an rv, but, like, I do see the appeal of, like, I don't want to camp. I want to take an RV from one city to another than stay at a nice hotel. I just want to have a nice accommodation.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, like, tour bus. You know, when I was growing up, my meemaw and papa had a mobile home, and they would take me and my cousin Matt across the country. And it was so fun. You know, we would have peanut butter and banana. No peanut butter and butter sandwiches in the morning for breakfast. And tang. That was our healthy breakfast every day. And then we would just go. I saw the whole country. You know, I saw the Grand Canyon. I saw Dollywood. And at Dollywood, I ran away. Cause I got sick of being bossed around. And so me and my cousin ran away and just did Dollywood by herself. And they were calling the police and my parents. Oh, the memories. So I see an RV and I'm like, yes, run away. Let's do it.

[Ben]

Rv, which stands for Ronnie Vivaciousness.

[Ronnie]

Ronnie Vibes. Run away from home.

[Brittany]

Better.

[Ben]

I am. I. I am in, like, a Salt Lake City hangover. This is going to be an interesting recap. Just like, I feel like I'm like, you know what it is like when you feel, like, awake, but, like, the words just are not coming out properly. That's what today is going to be like.

[Ronnie]

Just warning, well, you are in good company because we are talking Salt Lake City and they don't know many words. So she reminds us that after New York, there were some fractures in some of the Greek ships. So we see flashbacks to the reunion where everybody's fighting with each other. And so Angie's tricking them all, and she's told them all that they're going on a luxurious vacation. Little do they know they're going to be sleeping in an rv. There is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. It is you, Zorba, and. And your closest frenemies. So, Dawn D.

[Ben]

We are using. We're using faj Greek yogurt as pillows. Why do I feel like the only one who's really going to be not down for this will be Meredith. I feel like RVs are not Meredith's vibe at all. But everyone else, like, this is Salt Lake City. I feel like everyone else will be like, okay, fine, we'll stay in an rv. I mean, this is the only Real Housewives show where they will unfold some Kirkland chairs in a parking lot next to a pile of dirty snow in April and pull out, like, a tray of supermarket cheeses and shoot a scene. Like, there's so, like, rv, like, spending a night in an rv. This is just, like, par for the course for them. This is not like the Real Housewives of Miami or Beverly Hills. Like, this is just. This is like a weekend. A weekend excursion for them.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. This is actually kind of a nice trip for this cast. They didn't even get to do anything glamorous until two years ago until they got rid of Jen Shaw. Yeah.

[Ben]

And then even when they. Even last year when they went and, like, went to Mexico, they. They had, like, an international trip to Mexico, they still had to have their big, climactic dinner at a restaurant in an amusement park. Like, that's just, like, what this cast is.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's how this cast rolls. Yeah, this is the parking lot cast. You know, they do everything in the parking lot. Yeah. They'll pull over on the side of the road and have a scene, you know, in the shoulder of a freeway. That's just how this cast rolls. So them. Them acting like it's so not glamorous. Like, Whitney, you're about to be living in one of these, if you're lucky. You know what I mean?

[Ben]

Whitney, you go to Sturgis every year, okay? Like, let's not act like you were. Like, you need to be, like, fetid in, like, the Ritz Carlton of Paris.

[Ronnie]

So Heather, Whitney, Bronwyn, Meredith, and Brittany are all standing outside beauty lab, which is never a good sign. And Heather's like, guys, where do you think we're going? And she kept saying, it's somewhere glamorous. And when he's like, I tried to call and get that info from Mary, and she wouldn't. Bitch.

[Brittany]

What was that?

[Ben]

Bitch?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Did you.

[Brittany]

Oh, wait.

[Ben]

Sorry, everyone. She means budge. Sorry, it's been a while. I have to turn my Whitney translation on.

[Ronnie]

Okay, don't tell me what I meant.

[Brittany]

You exploited my vocabulary.

[Ben]

Heather's like. She's like, oh, well, with Angie, I.

[Brittany]

Thought she'd sing like a canary. And she was just mysterious as you.

[Ben]

Can be about where we'll be going.

[Ronnie]

Where are they? Meredith's like, well, I can't marry. You know, I didn't ask anything other than what I should pack So I don't know anymore. And Mary, we see the invite, and it's called the class A Getaway. And it says, bring bikini boots and blessings. And to illustrate this, there's bikini boots and a cross. So.

[Ben]

And. But there's also an airplane, isn't there?

[Ronnie]

Yes, there's an airplane and it's all.

[Ben]

Like, drawn like yellow submarine style. So Heather's like, well, based on the.

[Brittany]

Invite, there's only a few places that we can be going.

[Ben]

There's a private plane, there's a pier over water, and there's a tropical drink.

[Brittany]

But then there's the invite also said boots.

[Ben]

Heather is even more media training, sound media train sounding this season than ever before. She's always, like, very good in her. In her interviews, but she's even more like, hello, I'm on camera now and I'm doing an interview.

[Ronnie]

I'm just. I'm a wacky housewife. Yeah, Heather. Heather sticks to her guns on this. This stick until you really get under her skin. And then she flips, you know, and that's what. That's what we need. But I'm fine with the shtick for now because, you know, it's episode one, Slow burn, Slow burn into it. So Bronwyn's like, well, I packed a little bit of everything. So I'm. I've got something. I've got. I've got hideous outfits in whatever genre we choose.

[Brittany]

I mean, we could be helicoptering in.

[Ben]

For all I know. I mean, I'm ready for anything. I mean, and Lord knows I have a lot of experience with helicopters, Todd. You know what I'm saying? Anyone? Think about it.

[Ronnie]

She's been helicoptering, Todd, for years. So now they're like, oh, my God, where's. Where's Angie and. And Mary? What the hell? Oh, and we're also missing Lisa. And Meredith's like, oh, Lisa's not coming. She didn't tell you? And they're like, what? Lisa's not coming? Oh, my God. Everyone who hates Lisa is like, oh, she's not coming. Because they were planning on just railing on Lisa.

[Ben]

They were so ready. So now Heather says, so now seems like a good time to update you on where everyone stands with each other.

[Brittany]

Meredith cannot stand Britney.

[Ben]

I'm not a fan of Bronwyns. I'm not really sure where Mary stands anyone, but that's kind of what you get with Mary.

[Brittany]

And then there's Angie, Whitney, and especially.

[Ben]

Bronwyn, who are all not getting along with Lisa right now. One might ask, why are we Going on a girls trip when there are five ongoing disputes, but that's actually kind of tame for this group. Slash Bravo's making us do this.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, pretty much. So the RV pulls up and no one really notices at first because it's beauty lab. I'm sure RVs pull in there all the time, you know, so like, whatever. But then the, the urban.

[Ben]

It just starts. A family of 12. Yeah. To get their facials.

[Ronnie]

Heather's like, you know, it's that Mormon family special. You know, bring all the kids in to start their Botox. Preventative. It's preventative. Five and up. Five and up. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Their denim is durable and fits right. And their real leather jackets bring that clean, classic edge without the elevated price tag.

[Ronnie]

What makes quints different? They partner directly with ethical factories and skip the middlemen. So you get top tier fabrics and craftsmanship at half the price of similar brands.

[Ben]

So, Rani, you just got something from Quinn's, didn't you? Didn't something just arrive?

[Ronnie]

It is gorge. Speaking of cashmere, I just got a cashmere hoodie from them. It's like an oatmeal color. It is so beautiful. Like I'm almost afraid to wear it because I don't want to mess it up. It's one of the nicest things in my wardrobe. So when I need to class it up this fall, you will be seeing me in this hoodie.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

Oh, my God. The boats are beautiful. They're so modern. The rooms are just so luxurious. I love all the colored lighting in there, the balconies.

[Ben]

I also just love that they are tailored for adult experiences. That makes me so happy.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

So they start honking and it is Angie. The honk is like, grease, grease, grease, grease, grease, grease, grease, grease. And it's Angie.

[Ben]

Athens, Athens.

[Ronnie]

Athens.

[Ben]

Oh, she has an old timey horn. Yeah, an old time, yeah. UGA horn that says Athens. That's real old timey. That's a few thousand years old. They found this in the Acropolis. It's an old horn they used on the Argo. Athens.

[Ronnie]

So Britney's like, wait, so we're not flying somewhere? No, we are not flying. But you gave me an invitation with a plane and I'm ready for bikinis. I'm wearing a bikini. And she opens her jacket and she's wearing a bikini. They're like, oh, my God. Fucking Brittany showing up in a bikini.

[Ben]

She was gonna wear a bikini on the airplane. That's what that means. She was like. She was. Who wears a bikini on an airplane? Who wears a bikini on a commercial flight?

[Ronnie]

God bless Genji's little heart. I mean, God bless Brittany's little heart. Just reading the invite and taking every word so literal. Well, did they all get different invitations than me? Because it said bikinis, boots and blessings. I mean, why am I the only one wearing a bikini? What about me?

[Ben]

It means pack those things. It doesn't mean you have to wear them on whatever mode of transportation we'll be taking to the trip. So it's like, yeah. You really took the theme to heart, huh? Yeah. I have no idea where we're going, but unless she's planning on going to a pool party with a congressman, I'm.

[Brittany]

Not sure where this outfit even works.

[Ben]

So they. They get on like the Britney, like Brittany wearing that bikini under that. Like, was that some sort of like felt jacket that she was wearing over it? Or a felt top was like a.

[Ronnie]

Like a. Like a camel trench or something.

[Ben]

Camel, camel hair. It was. I was like, okay, we are so back. So they get in and they get into this rv. It's a nice rv, but I actually felt.

[Brittany]

I felt it was a very cramped.

[Ben]

Rv because it's so nice that all the seating is, like big armchairs, but as a result, they're all, like, stuffed in there in the back. And Bronwyn is not happy because she is. She's. She says, I live my life as.

[Brittany]

A germaphobe, and it's a very small, enclosed space, and I don't like when.

[Ben]

Other people are coughing or breathing or eating snacks and we're all using the.

[Brittany]

Same air for everything. And if anybody could make a hazmat suit chic on a camping trip. Camping trip, it would have been me. I just needed a little bit more.

[Ronnie]

Advanced Notice you're a germaphobe, huh? Because last season your house was covered in dog poop that you hadn't cleaned up in, like, a million days. And you're married to Todd, who, you know, spits at you while he talks and is a constant silent fart. I don't believe you. I do not believe you. Well, I don't believe this. Latent germaphobe. Germaphobia.

[Brittany]

I have a ritual. Every two days I go to CVS.

[Ben]

And I get over the counter medications.

[Brittany]

To deal with any sort of potential germs that might be coming into my body.

[Ben]

And of course, I pick up a new bag of Werther's Originals for Todd.

[Ronnie]

So, germaphobe, I thought it would be special that we're, like, close ladies. We can spend close time together. And so Brittany's like, oh, yeah, we are really close. And she's sitting right next to Meredith. She's like, jesus, help. Help me.

[Ben]

So then all of a sudden, police start to swarm the RV in a site that is very reminiscent of season two, Salt Lake City. It's swat. It's a SWAT team. But we all know, like. We all know where this is going because this is like. Like, this is the stripper version of the SWAT team, which means they just have shirts that say swat. They don't actually have any gear or anything that makes them look remotely like real SWAT team. SWAT team members, right? So they knock on the door and.

[Brittany]

They'Re like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. What is happening? What is going on?

[Ronnie]

We're here for Whitney. We're here for Whitney. Whitney, get out of the rv. So. Oh, my God. What is go. What is going to happen with me? So she comes out and they handcuff her, but guess what? It's strippers.

[Ben]

Yeah, you've been a bad girl. A very bad girl. And they start to strip, and then they, like, the strippers come onto the Onto the rv, but there's, like, no room for them. It's so cramped. So they're just sort of like in the doorway kind of like writhing and taking off their shirts and stuff.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, they just take off their shirts and kind of do a couple of fist bumps and they're out. She didn't really think that one through.

[Ben]

Didn't quite work the way it was supposed to work.

[Ronnie]

When I heard we were departing from beauty lab, I knew I had to pull a prank, and so I got strippers. It was harder than I thought to find male strippers in Utah, by the way, which I find kind of odd.

[Ben]

You would think that there'd be enough, like, repressed emotions that there'd be tons.

[Ronnie]

Of them, but I guess it's hard to get them to where they get down further than the long underwear or whatever, you know? But she found them, so here they are.

[Ben]

Here they are.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Easiest job ever. They're like, wow, we didn't even have to whack anybody in the face with our dongs. We're done. Nailed it. Lunchtime, Chili's. Chili's boys.

[Ben]

I will say the stripper quality on Salt Lake City, maybe not as high as on. Maybe a show like Atlanta, but I appreciate the. I appreciate the attempt. I appreciate the attempt.

[Ronnie]

They were hot. I love a small space stripper like here, okay? I want you to strip for my party, but you're relegated to the laundry closet. Okay?

[Ben]

It's like, that works. You know what it is? It's like house hunter's tiny homes. You know, like you have, like, full size. Like, you can be a stripper in, like, a full size room that has space. Or you come on to Salt Lake City and you strip in a very, very small, confined space. And everyone watches saying, how can they live like that? You know, the tiny home version.

[Ronnie]

Tiny home stripper. And Mary is mortified. She's like, no, I will. No, no, no, no, no, no. And one comes up to her and starts touching her, and she goes, you don't even know me.

[Ben]

Stripper has to. There has to be a thorough, like, get to know Mary phase before they can do any lap dances.

[Ronnie]

So now everybody does shots and they won't tell them where they're going, but it's going to be an hour away, okay? And Heather's like, an hour north, an hour south, an hour east, or an hour west. Which is it going to be? South. And Britney says, so we're gonna pass my house then. And Mary goes, yeah, maybe we can drop you off. Kidding. Kind of Kidding. Mostly kidding.

[Ben]

By the way, I just have to say one last thing about the strippers. I love when Mary goes.

[Brittany]

I mean, where are the muscles?

[Ben]

So, yeah, they're going an hour away, so. Which is hilarious that they're staying actually so local. And Mary is. So Brittany's, you know, making jokes about. About dropping Britney off. And Mary says, you know how some people just get on your nerves? And it just cuts to Brittany going. I'm like, hello, Hello, Hello. Just one of them.

[Ronnie]

We've got an hour to gaze into each other's eyes, talk about whatever we want. I'll start. Grape leaves. So they're like, wait a minute, Where's Lisa? Uh. Oh, dun, dun, dun. Well, not very clear. She said she had some work going on, so she was gonna go out of town. And we see flashback of Lisa on the phone. And Lisa is one of those housewives you don't ever want to get stuck on the phone with. We've both had experiences with them, and I love Lisa, but I don't ever want to get stuck on the phone with Lisa because she just goes on and on and on about herself and never takes a breath. She could be talking to the opera. She could be talking to the guy at the other end of movie phone. You know, you never know. You never have a chance to say anything. And she's like. Well, she's like, hi. I don't want to spend the night with Bronwyn because she's a pathological liar and she can't tell the truth to save her life. It's, like, disgusting. It's, like, literally disgusting. Like, I can.

[Ben]

I'm working.

[Ronnie]

I've got work to do. I'm going to.

[Ben]

I don't.

[Ronnie]

I don't want to, like, name drop, but it's, like a big deal. You know, people forget. Like, what people forget is that I have, like, a very full plate. It's, like, so full. I keep it, like, kind of private. So I'm not going to drop names, but I'm going to be with Ben and Blake Affleck and Lively. So would I rather be with you or Ben Affleck and Blake Lively? I don't know.

[Ben]

What is it with the women on these Mormon shows trying to name drop Ben Affleck all the time. Yeah. I have to testify in the Justin Baldoni case against Blake Lively. Yeah, I just. I guess I'm sort of like, a key witness. Yeah. So I've just got, like, things to do. Sorry, can't make it to the camping trip.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm I brought Ben Affleck in town so that we can go stand up to Jenna Affleck and remind him. Remind her that he's not related to them.

[Ben]

It's just trying to weasel her way into that Dunkin Donuts commercial. And she's like. And Ben and Blake, she's like, yeah, I'll be with Ben Affleck and Blake Lively. Blake Lively, who's married to Ryan Reynolds. So I'll basically be with him too. And since Ryan Reynolds is like in like that Marvel movie Deadpool, I'm basically an avenger now. So, yeah, I've got like new friends. I've got to hang out with them. Bye. You'll have fun with Bronwyn.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Manji's like, well, it wasn't very clear if it was work or more the fact that Bronwyn was coming on the trip. But everyone is invited. It's probably Bronwyn because we know she's not working.

[Ben]

Which by the way, and had Angie saying, well, was that or Bronwyn coming on the trip is like, it's totally lighting a fire, right? Yeah. Bronwyn's like, don't blame it on me. And so Brittany goes, well, I talked.

[Brittany]

To her, you know, she was definitely working and like, she has like a huge work thing. Like a huge thing. Like something about like, like thanos, like coming to like earth and she has to like go fight him off. Like, I don't know, like, she has a lot to do.

[Ronnie]

She would miss a girls trip over work. I don't believe it. Like, yeah, she would. I mean, don't drag her. Don't drag her, Whitney. Don't Dr. Her. She's a very good friend of mine. Lisa and I are extremely close. We are extremely close. And you're one to talk with me.

[Brittany]

I don't think she's working.

[Ronnie]

Oh yeah, you're one to talk. You're one to talk. Your business is getting dragged right now on social media. What about that? What about your business getting dragged?

[Brittany]

What? Are you kidding me? Brittany, Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

[Ben]

And we see her lines that say.

[Ronnie]

From reality blurb, Whitney has been accused of being involved in an MLM scheme. Okay, it's not even an accusation. It's literally like, would you like to be involved in multi level marketing? Call Whitney. It's not like, it's not like some investigative reporting going on. It was literally an MLM scheme.

[Brittany]

No, I wanted to make a healthier version of, of candies. So I came up with these like chocolate coated candies. That are sugar. Have a sugar shell. And I'm gonna be like, mmm, you're gonna love them. That's why I call them MLMs, not M&Ms. So it's, like, a little bit better.

[Ben]

It's like, Whitney, you're literally selling MLMs with your MLM.

[Brittany]

What?

[Ben]

Sorry, that was a long way to go for that.

[Ronnie]

You buy an MLM and then you sell it to somebody, and they sell the mlm, and you get a piece of their mlm, and before you know it, everybody has diabetes.

[Brittany]

Yes. When you get a bag of MLMs, you have to send one MLM back to the person above you in the pyramid, because our office is in a pyramid. It's not a scheme. It's an actual pyramid. And then, like, that person has to send an M and MLM up, and then the person at the top has so many MLMs.

[Ronnie]

Whitney's just saying this because she feels emboldened. Elise is not here. She can say whatever she wants and get away with it, but you can't, because I am here to stand up for my best friend friend, Lisa Barlow.

[Brittany]

Yeah, out of nowhere, I was questioning where Lisa was. That's all I was doing.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that was shady, because she is on a business trip with someone whose name I won't drop, named Ben Affleck and Blake Liverly. So. How dare you? How dare you?

[Brittany]

You know nothing about my business.

[Ronnie]

Well, you don't have a right to drag Lisa. She's a very loyal friend. A very, very loyal friend. No one is kinder to Wendy than her.

[Brittany]

Wait, so, like, what do you do for money? How do you make money sucking dick?

[Ronnie]

Are you kidding me, Whitney?

[Brittany]

Yeah, yeah. You just went there with me, Brittany, and that was low, and it was so undeserved.

[Ronnie]

It's not low. Your business is being dragged on social media in the public eye.

[Brittany]

I'm at. I'm at a. I'm under. I'm up the bottom of a rock. I mean, I'm like a rock fell on. Wait, hold on. Okay, wait. I'm at. I'm at rock bottom, bitch, and I'll climb my way out on top of.

[Ben]

You, and then I'll have sex with you.

[Brittany]

Wait, huh? What am I supposed to say?

[Ronnie]

Come on, guys, we're flummoxing. Whitney, we just started the trip. You don't have a right to drag Lisa just because she's not here. And Bron was like, you need to keep your hands out of my face or I'm gonna jump into.

[Brittany]

Lisa's a really good friend. Of mine. She's a good friend and I'm not gonna let someone just throw shade when she's not here.

[Ronnie]

That's all of you.

[Ben]

Quietly to send to her mother's like.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I don't know when they became friends. So then we see. She goes, you'd have to ask Lisa when they became friends. So we see a shot of Lisa's couch where she should be sitting and it's just empty. And it says, where's Lisa? On a business trip.

[Ben]

They're trolling her. So Britney's like, Lisa's.

[Brittany]

Yeah, Lisa's like a sister to me, okay? She's. I got really close with her after Puerto Vallarta and just because she and Meredith are close, it doesn't affect our relationship whatsoever.

[Ronnie]

Britney, don't say anything mean about Whitney's business. She's like, I, I didn't give any detail. I just said I read about it online. She's like, especially don't kick a one legged dog when they're down. Sorry, Whitney.

[Brittany]

You kicked a dog. That's not right. I'm calling the essic at Merson.

[Ronnie]

Hey, I've got four. I'm a four legged dog.

[Brittany]

You exploited my fourth leg.

[Ben]

So there's a bump and everything falls off the shelves. So they arrive at the Provo river resort, which is one of the more scenic places they've gone to on this show. Although there's like a rusted out school bus on the side and trash cans and like rabid raccoons doing like reenacting river dance in the corner.

[Ronnie]

Like it's a toothless guy playing, you know, he's playing the banjo.

[Ben]

It definitely feels like that scene in Sinners when the vampires approach the nightclub and are like playing their banjos. Like, stay away, stay away.

[Ronnie]

They would actually fit in as that cast. The people approaching them, the religious people, they're like just singing the religious songs on their way there.

[Ben]

Singing mbap.

[Ronnie]

I would like to sing my favorite song from temple.

[Brittany]

Can you let us into your club?

[Ronnie]

So is that a dumpster? Oh, my God. Ron was like, I was picturing like a glamorous cabin. Yeah. Like maybe something fabulous and a chef. But you know, we'd say, oh, it's so freezing. And then we'd run out into the hot tub or something like that. I don't know.

[Ben]

I planned that line all the entire trip. I was, I was thinking, oh, it's freezing, or oh, it's freezing, or oh, it's freezing. I did it like 10 times.

[Ronnie]

But there's no hot Tub, and it's muddy. And Mary's like, we're not just in nature, we're in the trenches. I mean, there's mud, there's trees. She's mortified by trees. She's like, how dare you bring me somewhere with trees.

[Ben]

I think mud and trees are. That's fairly. Well, mud is not great, but it's acceptable. I think the rusted school bus in the corner is more of an issue for me. I thought it was actually funny when someone said, there's a dumpster. I'm like, well, at least there's someplace to put your trash. I'd be happy to see a dumpster, personally.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Whitney's like, I grew up in a Winnebago, which no one is shocked by. And Mary's like, yeah, I don't know how my name got attached to this trip. Like, this is not me. I did not do this.

[Ben]

Whitney in the Winnebago. I don't know the Whitney. You know, Winnebago is different than saying that you won a bagel once when you grew up.

[Brittany]

Oh, okay. Never mind.

[Ronnie]

Well, cheers, everyone. Welcome to nature. Let us have lunch. I got a sandwich trays from the store. So no one's allowed to have phones or anything. And then Brittany, of course, stands up, and immediately it's like, everybody, I have a literal activity planned for us.

[Brittany]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

I didn't clear it with the hostesses, but I actually think since I'm the video girl and you all know me is the. The video girl. It's kind of my wraparound here. So fun. Isn't it fun, girls? And they're all just staring or like, you recorded us. And that was not funny, ma'.

[Ben]

Am.

[Ronnie]

Brittany brings it back like it's one of her greatest hits. She's like, yeah, remember me? Recording girl?

[Brittany]

She's like, well, so I had somehow.

[Ben]

Landed a corporate sponsorship, and you all have camcorders. So she gives them all camcorders. I was surprised at how jealous I was in that moment. I was like, I want a camcorder. I don't know why, because we all have our phones. Like, there's literally no need for a camcorder anymore, which is sad. But it was also, like, so Britney to be like, here's a piece of antiquated technology that you have no use for and already have all the capabilities on your phone, but it's another piece of clutter for your house. Enjoy. And they all were looking at her like, what is wrong with this woman? And yet they did. Also the thing that I would do, which was immediately get onto their camcorders and shoot all sorts of silly videos like they were kids again.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. They were looking at her like, you're crazy. But that's another thing I really like about this cast is they'll, they'll do it. They're like, okay, I mean, we're, we're playing with camcorders. We'll do it. We all hate Britney, want to, you know, settle on fire, but we'll do this. And we don't want to be here camping, but I guess we're just gonna do this. So let's, you know, they're all game commercials.

[Ben]

Here comes one right now.

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[Ben]

I love, I just, I also just like I just, I love that this camcorders is their special treat. Like you know, you go on to Beverly Hills and Kathy Hilton's giving everyone like Baccarat glass or you know they're flying on Stephanie Shojai's private plane front to Sevilla, then down to Marbella, then up back to Sevilla, then back to Miami. And here it's like you all get a camcorder.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, here it is, a camcorder.

[Ben]

We went to Best Buy and picked this up on the way. Enjoy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So they make a bunch of funny videos and stuff. And of course, Mary's camcorder goes black. Immediately. You just hear going, well, how does this work?

[Ben]

I think she hit the fade out button because it, like, faded to black. And she's like, wait, which is. She didn't realize. I mean, that fade out button. I don't know, Ronnie, when you were a kid, how much did you love the fade out button? Like, you'd be like, every time you make these little scenes, it's like, well, here I am walking through the kitchen and scene fade out. That was like my. That was like my. My director's touch.

[Ronnie]

No, I never used any of that stuff. I just used the main. Because you know me, I'm like, fix it in post. You know, be like, okay, here I am standing in front of my mother's bedroom. Okay, cut. I never cut it. I'm just like, someone will edit that later. There's so many videos of me as a kid going, cut. It's like, you're recording yourself, you moron. There's nobody to cut this. So Whitney's like, this wasn't on my bingo card for today, but I'm happy to be here with all of you. I just love being in nature. It just puts everything into perspective. Like, why didn't Lisa come? Let's think about it. When someone plans a girls trip, you go. And when you don't go, it's to make a statement. Like, we would have rearranged a trip around her, but it's just a way for her to say, I'm not. I'm not into you guys as much as you're into me. And, oh, gosh, Heather always makes it like, oh, my God, she wouldn't invite me to her lunch table at byu.

[Ben]

That's exactly right.

[Ronnie]

Every single time.

[Ben]

It goes back to that.

[Brittany]

Well, she hasn't shared anything with me, but I read what's online and, you know, we always have to believe everything we read online unless you read something about Prism. And I think that there's just, like, a lot out there, you know, she has.

[Ronnie]

I'm sorry, she.

[Ben]

No, no. Yeah. She was just getting mad at Brittany because Brittany read stuff about Whitney's business.

[Brittany]

Why are you reading things on blooms of reality. But now she's like, well, I read stuff on on reality burp that says that Lisa killed 10 people. So I don't know.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she has a lot of people accusing her of crazy accusations. Oh, God, I love Whitney English.

[Ben]

Just accusing her of accusations. I heard that Lisa's been accusing people of things. You're an accuser.

[Ronnie]

Didn't she just mention this the other day? Heather to you and say everything was okay? And Heather's like, yeah, she said it was all bullshit. That's what she said. But Heather, aren't you claiming in about five minutes that you've heard none of this? Heather's so bad. Then Brittany's like, well, that's what she said to me too. As her best friend, I think I would know.

[Brittany]

Well, interesting timing, huh? Interesting timing for Lisa to be too busy. That's air quotes, okay?

[Ben]

To go on a free girls trip.

[Brittany]

Maybe she's air quote too busy reading about herself in the press with all of her lawsuits. It's just very convenient timing for Lisa's.

[Ben]

Schedule to be max out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's what I've heard. Knock, knock.

[Ben]

Who?

[Ronnie]

Who's there?

[Ben]

No, I said nod. Nodded.

[Ronnie]

Who's there?

[Brittany]

Oh, oh. Who's there? Orange. Wait. I always thought it was called a nod, nod joke.

[Ronnie]

Bronwyn is nodding so emphatically that Brittany thinks it's a knock, knock joke.

[Brittany]

Hello?

[Ben]

Whitney?

[Brittany]

Hello? Someone there?

[Ronnie]

Well, what I've heard is that there's multiple issues and some of them are not done yet. They're not done. That's what I heard. They're not done. I've changed to shaking my head now. What do you think of that? Nope, I'm nodding again. Now I'm nodding.

[Brittany]

Go back to the nodding.

[Ronnie]

It's very serious for somebody who's so worried.

[Brittany]

You know what? Now? Now we're gonna get serious.

[Ben]

Because I'm gonna not only nod, but I'm gonna go to a three quarter view when I talk.

[Brittany]

Okay? Because for somebody who's so worried about my finances, and now let's move all.

[Ben]

The shoulders forward and do some extra.

[Brittany]

You know, lurch forward to really emphasize.

[Ben]

Something'S not in lurch about your jewelry.

[Brittany]

Someone who's so interested about jewelry or what your husband may or may not have done and that she heard from someone else. Nod, nod and never did. I mean, whatever you want to call it. For somebody who talks an awful lot, maybe she should spend some of that.

[Ben]

Time working on some of the stuff she's got to fix. Nod big Nod.

[Ronnie]

Well, wouldn't not showing up on a girl's trip to work be working on some of the things that she's going to fix? I don't know. It feels like she's already doing what you want her to do. So Angie's like, you seem to know something that you don't want to say. And Heather's like, spit it out, Bronwyn. Just say it. Just say it, Brynwin. Just say it, Brynwin.

[Brittany]

Well, Lisa's go to accusation is that.

[Ben]

All of us are liars when she.

[Brittany]

Doesn'T like what we say, and then she is the one pointing it out.

[Ben]

And never sharing with us what's hard.

[Brittany]

Or what's difficult or messy or frankly, maybe even fucking bullshit about her own life.

[Ben]

Guess what? She doesn't even go to Wendy's. I tracked her there. I said it.

[Ronnie]

That's why she talks. So. Because then if she talks, then other people don't have to say that she talks about accusations about it. Burn. Well, Mary's like, yeah, we can't talk about her stuff, but she can always talk about ours. Oh, yeah, and by the way, most of the lawsuits that I've looked at, I mean, I don't know how many there are. I don't. I don't. Hold on. Let me shake my head for a second just to. Just to emphasize I do not know how many there are. 100, 110, 3,000. I don't know. But I've seen at least five that have been filed against Lisa or Lisa's businesses or Lisa and her husband or Lisa and her husband's businesses or businesses. And Lisa and her husband. And her husband and. And his businesses along with Lisa. That's what I've seen.

[Ben]

And one against Henry, which was weird.

[Ronnie]

I've seen it.

[Ben]

And Heather's like. Like, file lawsuits against Lisa Barlow. Yeah, Lisa and John. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't understand. What is a lawsuit?

[Brittany]

I don't even know. Is that like a little outfit you.

[Ben]

Put on the law to make the.

[Brittany]

Law more complicated, acceptable to people?

[Ben]

And Brahman's like, no, it's a serious.

[Brittany]

These are serious allegations, and it's for a lot of money.

[Ben]

I mean, so she's litigating. She's in court right now. I don't understand.

[Ronnie]

Even though I just said I spoke to Lisa about this, and she said all the accusations are. I didn't even know there were accusations. What are you talking about? I've never heard of anything like this. And what are you doing Reading testimonials Are you googling? What are you doing, bro? Conwyn? And she's like, it was in the Salt Lake City Tribune, Heather. Okay, The Tribune, everybody. The Tribune, everybody.

[Brittany]

What is the. The Tribune? Is that like a bus? Is that a new bus line that people are taking?

[Ben]

I don't know what these things are. Salt Lake trip.

[Ronnie]

It is everywhere. Angie, have you seen it? She's like, I've seen it. You've seen it too, Mary. You've seen it. You've seen it too, Teague. Teague, have you seen it? Tika seen it. Tika seen it. And Heather's like, what? I've never heard of any of this. This is absolute insanity. I love Heather. Now for you to pretend you didn't see it. I think Stevie Wonder saw it. Stevie Wonders at home, like, well, hey, why are you dragging me into this?

[Ben]

Don't. Don't. Like, please don't. I thought we were past Stevie Wonder jokes. Didn't we leave Those in the 80s? So Angie is like, if you're saying you don't know, you're playing stupid. And we've all seen the same things. Lisa talks a big game, and then you hear all this other stuff going on. It's weird.

[Brittany]

Oh, God.

[Ben]

This whole thing makes me uncomfortable. Why Bronwyn thinks she would tell us this. Why everyone at the table seems so riveted by it. I mean, Lisa and I have worked really hard on our friendship, and I want to be a supportive friend. So every instinct in my body is.

[Brittany]

Like, defend your friend.

[Ben]

I'm just thinking about what I would want someone to do in that position for me. And when I thought about it, I thought, I would like them to get me a very small bolero jacket to hide in.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, you know what? Borrowing money is part of business. And I think the lawsuits are about borrowing money. I mean, what are you gonna do? It's part of doing business. Like, yeah, but so is paying it back some. So is paying it back. You've got to pay the money back. You've got to pay it back. And I'm saying, this is Bronwyn, and this is the only name that I've ever used. And I've never been accused of anything in grand theft auto, so I don't want anybody even to mention that, okay? At least for a few episodes. Okay?

[Ben]

This is.

[Brittany]

Well, it's like.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, it's like I told my toddler, you have to pay the nice man if you want to keep the electronic fly swatter, okay?

[Brittany]

He did.

[Ben]

Because it's business.

[Ronnie]

And Heather's. Angie's like, Heather, one might say it is similar to what Jen Shaw did.

[Ben]

No, this is a real sticking point. It's not. And this is gonna be a thing. I know this is gonna be a thing. Like, fast forward to, like, two weeks from now. Lisa be like, how could you say I was like, Gensha? That is the worst thing you could ever say about me. I guarantee that stupid line is gonna haunt it. And the reason why also is because in this Hollywood Reporter article, the journalist says, well, Angie says in the premiere that Lisa is like Jen Shaw. What do you guys think about that? I was like, okay, this is gonna be a thing. This is gonna be a talking point. Because, like, I just. I just feel like it's gonna be a whole thing because, you know, Heather's.

[Brittany]

Gonna say, well, Angie was saying that you were like Jan Shaw.

[Ben]

She said that about me? Oh, just brace yourselves, everyone.

[Ronnie]

What the are you spewing from your mouth, Angie K? I don't even understand Angie's analogy. I mean, these are not criminal charges. This is a civil lawsuit that has yet to go to trial. And this is is coming from DJ lawyer Meredith Marks. Okay? The state of Utah is not coming after Lisa Barlow, nor is the United States of America, nor our five bean salads, for that matter.

[Ben]

But I'll tell you who is coming after Lisa Barlow.

[Brittany]

Me. Because I need an extra hand.

[Ben]

Help me slice this lemon because my sister is busy this week. Weekend.

[Ronnie]

I mean, this is blowing my GD mind. You're comparing LB to Jen Shaw and YouTuber, like, bonding over this? What is going on? Why are we even talking about Jen Shaw? We shouldn't be talking about her. We shouldn't say her name. We shouldn't unearth her spirit because she's in prison where she belongs. You better watch your mouth, because Jen Shaw is about to be out in five minutes, and she is going to curb stomp you. She's got new tricks. What about my curb?

[Ben]

So Bronwyn's like, I know.

[Brittany]

Okay, Heather, I know you can't stand me, and that's fine.

[Ben]

You don't have to. Heather's like, that's not true.

[Brittany]

It's like, but you just said if.

[Ben]

Anybody compared someone to Jen, it would be too far.

[Brittany]

What about when Lisa compared me to Jen? Was it too far? Then Lisa publicly tweeted that.

[Ben]

I was like, I. I didn't hear that. And if I did hear that, I probably would have laughed. Well, I just told you.

[Brittany]

It's like, well, I'm not on Twitter. Googling. Your fucking name, Bronwyn. I have a relationship with you based on this, and what I have on you is not great. And I'm not gonna sit here and have you tell me all the shit about Lisa's business when you just got caught red handed lying about a four million dollar necklace.

[Ben]

Oh, she is quick.

[Ronnie]

Oop, oop. So might I add a in there? Thank you. Thank you. So we see a flashback to the necklace where Andy's like, so you do have a necklace? She's like, oh, you know what I should do? I should probably have shown it. I should probably have brought it so I could show the other ladies. That would have been great, wouldn't it? I could. I could have done that. I sure could have. Yeah, I could have.

[Ben]

Is this Ronwin?

[Brittany]

Is this retaliation to the necklace? Is that what this is?

[Ben]

She's.

[Brittany]

Well, you know what?

[Ben]

But promised.

[Brittany]

It's my fault. I should not have tried to be cutesy about it.

[Ben]

Cutesy about the $4 million necklace that I didn't buy, but I could have if I wanted to. But I didn't buy.

[Brittany]

But you didn't own the necklace. No, and I said I shouldn't have. I shouldn't have said it that way. I shouldn't have said I own the.

[Ben]

Necklace when I didn't have it. I shouldn't have said it that way. I should have said I don't own the necklace.

[Brittany]

That's my fault.

[Ben]

That's my trust to bear.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I get it. I was just trying to protect myself and the jeweler and it came out sounding like a lie. And that's bad on me because it was a lie. I should have made to sound like the truth more. So that's on me. I should have made it sound more truthful.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Brittany]

I know. I wasn't going to. I knew I wasn't going to buy the necklace, but I made the girls believe that I had it by saying.

[Ben]

You know, when I wear it, you'll see it. And thinking that I would get a different version and they just wouldn't notice because they're all stupid. You know, it's between you and me, America. That's okay. And that was wrong.

[Brittany]

And how did that become more important.

[Ben]

To me than my integrity or the importance of Todd and our anniversary? I thought that I was being tough enough to not give a damn about what anyone else thinks, and I thought they were dumb enough to not follow up.

[Ronnie]

And just this whole monologue she's doing this really tight smile while she nods and you know that Todd is making her do this because she does not look happy that she has to do this. But she's like. And you know, I know it sounded like a lie and that is unfortunate because I was just trying to look cool and I don't know why I would do this to Todd. And I's because Todd is very important to me and I would never want to embarrass Todd over this. It's like, oh God. So things are going real well over there with Todd, huh?

[Brittany]

Hey everyone, this is the end of.

[Ben]

Part one of this recap for part two. Keep an eye on your podcast feed. It is coming up in just a moment. Thanks so much for listening.

[Brittany]

Catch you on the second half.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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