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Well, hello and welcome to watch what happens. This is is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay, it's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.
Brittany Cartwright
My take on it was a little different because I thought this was like a masterful like sort of faux owning my mistake moment by her. And this is sort of like one of the reasons why, why I really, really love Bronwyn. Because she's like, yeah, I said it in a way that sounds like a lie. And then like, it's just basically like I kind of did lie. And I did it because she does this thing. Like I can't believe I. It was more important for me to lie in that moment than it was to uphold like my situation with Todd and our anniversary or whatever. I just did it to feel cool. And I thought they wouldn't notice cause I just conned them with another stupid thing. So she's basically saying, yes, I lied, but. But I lied because I thought they'd be too stupid to catch me. And I was doing it so that way I could be so I could feel cool. So like she, she somehow admits it in a way that makes you feel sympathetic for her. And it's like the implication is I did it to feel cool because the other women are such bitches that they wouldn't let me into their group on, on my own. So I had to resort to this tactic. And I was like, that is so shrewd. Like, that's so shrewd the way she subtly like inserts these elements into this mea culpa moment.
Heather Gay
Yeah, it's like she's both doing that what you said. And she's also doing a little bit of like, well, it wasn't really a lie, but these women are too stupid to understand English. So I guess technically it was a lie. Even though it was just how I use words. You know, I guess all apart.
Brittany Cartwright
She was like, trying. They're just all idiots. Yeah. I think she said she was trying to be. I think she's like saying. Trying to say that she was trying to be coy. But people were like, no, you said you were gonna buy a necklace and you didn't buy it. We haven't seen it yet. So did you buy your necklace yet?
Heather Gay
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
We don't care about your coy remarks.
Heather Gay
So Brittany's like, all you have to do is say, I lied. I'm sorry.
Whitney Rose
The end.
Heather Gay
And she was, oh, well, let me know when you've cleared up the lies that you've told, Boo Boo. Okay? How about that?
Brittany Cartwright
And Ramen is like. And then we'll talk about you telling me how to clear up mine. Okay. She's like, well, don't call me Boo Boo. That's so condescending. Call me Ms. Boo Boo. Thank you very much.
Heather Gay
Does everyone here know what it's like to not be on a trip with your friends and have them all talk about you? And this is a pivot to me talking about when Bronwyn didn't invite me on that trip last year. Okay, so surely you're gonna let me go off on this. And Mary goes, I do, because I was on a trip with my friends, and when I went to bed, all of my friends, Lisa talked about me. So I know what it's like. I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm not gonna get to complain about my last time that I was kicked off the lunch table.
Brittany Cartwright
Wow, Mary really one up me on that one. She's like, gia said some things, and she has had information outside of Britney about everyone at the table. And then we see a series of Lisa flashbacks. Like, I heard Shonda. Circle jerks.
Heather Gay
Yeah, but that was a response to.
Brittany Cartwright
Jump out of the gate with.
Heather Gay
Yeah, I know, but they edit this. This is what I was talking about earlier, how they edit this all to make it look like this is Lisa being a monster. But Lisa just said that because Whitney was spreading around that John was cheating or whatever, that he was making out with people and Lisa was giving people hand jobs or whatever the fuck that thing was. And then the next one is, Meredith said I had mental issues. Oh, my God. I don't pop pills. You do. Again, that was a response. Cameron has had religious trauma being a member of Mary's church. He mortgaged his house and gave her 300 grands, which was when she was fighting with Mary.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, I don't.
Heather Gay
I don't know. I Can't I just.
Brittany Cartwright
I just chuckled.
Heather Gay
Stand for that one.
Brittany Cartwright
I was like.
Heather Gay
And Whitney saying, you plan things about my marriage and my business. Oh, yeah, go get your proof. And then I'm going to say the.
Brittany Cartwright
Fuck out of you. Yeah. So. And then Lisa is saying. She said, there's this other thing about the honor code. It just is a lot of Lisa.
Heather Gay
The jeweler comes up, or Lisa saying she's the jeweler, said, you guys didn't buy it. Or the hoop earrings. And Bronwyn saying, well, that's very weird that a jeweler would tell someone else what I did or didn't say, isn't it? Okay, so all of these. Lisa was either retaliating or just completely. Right, so whatever.
Brittany Cartwright
Also, I mean, if you want to talk about, like, oh, Lisa always seems to have all the information on people. We had a whole season of Whitney.
Whitney Rose
Saying, you did jizz for jazz. Okay?
Brittany Cartwright
I mean, it was a whole season of accusations that Lisa Barlow was trading sexual favors to get to consider to a jazz game. So, like, let's you all have tabs on each other, okay? You all do this cast.
Heather Gay
The shit they do on this show is so funny. And I love all the flashback clips because half of them, they're in crazy costumes, too. When they're fighting, like, bad wigs, it's like Marilyn Monroe yelling, you called me a whore to my husband. So then we cut back, and Meredith's like, listen, let's just deal with this with Lisa. I mean, we don't know what's going on, and Lisa's not here, so why are we talking about it without Ling Something.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, okay. And promise, like, I'm not trying to do it behind her back. Mary's like, I don't care. I can do with or without her. I'm good. I'm good. Meredith is like, well, I'm not pointing fingers at you. I'm saying this is where the whole conversation went. And I think that we should just pivot. And I would literally listen to anything else right now than talk about Lisa.
Whitney Rose
So Brittany's like.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, God, I never should have said we should bivot, you guys.
Heather Gay
You know that I'm kind of the announcement girl. So here I am making an announcement, standing up, dinging a water bottle. Okay, guys, Jared and I got engaged, and they all just stare at her. Meredith's fate. Meredith's head is just sideways, and it's, like, slightly twitching. Like, really?
Whitney Rose
Yes. And then we got unengaged two weeks after that.
Brittany Cartwright
And Mary goes, what is in the world?
Heather Gay
Well, that Was short and sweet. Britney doesn't understand how an announcement works. Heather and Britney's like, we just decided, you know what? Our kids aren't on board. And we just really want our kids to be a part of it. And they weren't happy because we were so on and off last year. And so, yeah, we decided to call it off. So. Ding, ding, ding. Yeah, it's a double announcement. We got engaged, and then we broke off the engagement. So I'm guess what shop is open for hugs. If anybody wants to bring their hugs in, I'm here.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, our kids are really not in support of it because we were. We've just been so on and off. And so to prove to our kids that those days of us being on and off are over, we decided to turn off our engagement that we just turned on. So that's it, everyone. That's it.
Heather Gay
Is he dating other women? No, he's still turning me on. Okay, well, are you still seeing him? Yeah, like, every day. And Mary goes, oh, my God, help me, Lord. And Whitney goes, really? Because I run into the. Into him at the gym all the time.
Whitney Rose
Yeah, and he appears single.
Brittany Cartwright
And Heather's like, what do you mean he appears single? Like, he just, like, shows up out of nowhere. He just appears, and then he does it on his own.
Whitney Rose
No, I'm just saying, I never see him on a machine. I. I see him at the Lifetime Cafe on dates.
Brittany Cartwright
Brittany's like, I mean, he's a really social person.
Whitney Rose
No, but he's on dates. And he introduces me to them, like, here's my date. And I'm like, hi, I'm Whitney. Do you want to buy some prison jewelry? And they say, no. And I'm like, but my business, it's really awkward every time.
Heather Gay
Well, first time, first of all, is it even considered a date if you're meeting at the Lifetime Cafe? When he's like, don't diss the Lifetime Cafe. It's amazing. You'd be surprised. Don't sleep on the chicken salad. Heather's like, I've literally slept on chicken salad. And I feel judged. I'm feeling judged right now.
Brittany Cartwright
Whitney's business must really be failing if she's probably been paid to somehow put in this weird endorsement for the Lifetime Cafe in her gym. At the 24 hour cafe now offering.
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Heather Gay
Well, this is a good time to break. We have fun activities planned, ladies. Some will go fishing. I remember the first time we went camping in our rv. We went fly Fishing. And Electra caught her first fish and I flew. It was super exciting. Great camping activity. So everybody's just like, oh, Jesus, now we have to fish. They just stare at her like, I'm gonna kill you, Angie. Second activity is a kayak in sub zero degree weather. It's like winter out there. You're going to put me in a fucking kayak?
Brittany Cartwright
No way. So there's. They split up into groups and everything and. Or they decide they're going to split up. And so now we have Mary Meredith and Brittany getting ready to go fishing and they're playing their camcorders. And then Joe and Dusty are there. They're the fishing guys. They're like putting on boots and stuff. And then Heather, Whitney and Bronwyn are going to go kayaking with a guy named Kevin. And Ron was like, I've never kayaked. Never, never kayaked. And Heather's like, well, there's two kayaks though.
Whitney Rose
It's a single and a double.
Brittany Cartwright
You, you know, we should get together in it. So basically, Bronwyn and Heather get into a kayak together. And you know, Whitney's saying Heather and.
Whitney Rose
Bronwyn are a tough case. I'm gonna stick them in a kayak together until they work out their problems. I'm gonna parent trap them.
Heather Gay
Perhaps I'll take this opportunity to teach Bronwyn how to do a kayak death roll. And hopefully she won't get stuck.
Whitney Rose
By the way, in the summer, the Lifetime Cafe has a delicious lobster roll, speaking of rolls, available for a low price if you're a membership of the gym.
Heather Gay
So this is wacky times. They get in the kayaks, it's crazy. They're hard to drive. And Bronwyn and Heather have a few laughs together. So you know, their friends now, I guess for this five minutes. And then the fly fishing girls. Meredith is, she's like, all right, so I'm supposed to cast this like a rainbow. Is that right? And he's like, correct. Yeah. Well, I'm a good rainbow thrower. Who knew? You know, just threw Brooks into the workforce. So that was some toddler rainbow toddler thrower. And Brittany is casting hers. And then Mary Meredith.
Brittany Cartwright
Meredith, fly fishing is how I would imagine she would conduct a symphony. She's like just flopping her wrist left and right, just very slowly being like, well, I hope I catch a fish. All right, didn't catch a fish. I'm ready to sit down now.
Heather Gay
Well, I'm not really a fisherman. I don't know anything about fish other than it's where I get my caviar. So Meredith is like, so how long does it typically take to catch a fish? It's like, well, that's a trillion dollar question, ma'. Am. Well, is it like, five minutes? Is it five hours? I mean, how long do I have to stand here?
Brittany Cartwright
We call it fishing, not catching. Well, that's a terrible brand. I will. Okay, I'm just gonna. I don't like this at all. Mary's like, well, I'll feel bad. I'm gonna want to throw it back. Throw it back out and free it. Okay. Because first of all, it's gonna choke. I know. I'm gonna have to try and resuscitate if we leave it out, and I don't want to have to do, like, fish cpr.
Whitney Rose
How do you.
Brittany Cartwright
How do you do that, Mary?
Heather Gay
Mary tells the guy. She goes, so, what's your name again? And goes, Dusty. Gusty. Dusty. Gusty. Dusty, Gusty. Gusty would know. Ask Gusty. It's like, yeah, we can't bring them back to life once they're dead. Mary is like, you can't bring them back. Oh, my God. That's not true. That's. That's not true. I'll just put it on the side of the rock. Do cpr. What.
Brittany Cartwright
What if I use a defibrillator? That's definitely not going to bring the fish back. You'll just have dinner at that point. Oh.
Heather Gay
So they just stare at Mary for a minute, and then Meredith goes, okay. But, like, seriously, most days, how long does it take to catch a fish? Can we just get back to that?
Brittany Cartwright
I have to feed my toddler soon. This is taking way too long. So then it's a commercial break, and now we're on Heather Cam. And Heather is approaching the camping guide, Kevin, and she's like, so I have a question.
Whitney Rose
Is this not, like, the area where.
Brittany Cartwright
The legend of Molly Sorensen happened? And he's like, it is. And she was the fundamentalist Mormon that made it her mission to find girls that would come up here to make out with their boyfriends or sin, and she would kidnap them and sacrifice them. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about, but since you want me to play along, I'll say, sure. This is the story.
Heather Gay
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
I don't think this is a real legend, because I looked it up, and I saw nothing about Molly Sorensen.
Heather Gay
Yeah, I don't. I've never heard it, but I've never been, like, a virginal, innocent person that Gets killed for having sex, you know, So I don't know, but Kevin's like, yeah, we hear screams all through the night. You know, we thought they'd be owls, but that's not how owls sound. And some people come up missing. It's like, oh, so are we gonna be okay? She goes, listen, we've got a lot of sinners over here. So the sun goes down and we see Angie cam. And so they're gonna make a fire. And this cast, another reason this cast is so real. They make a fire, it's blowing smoke in all of their faces. No one can breathe. And they're like, we're shooting here. So that's it. We're just gonna sit here and we're gonna fucking take it.
Brittany Cartwright
Truly. So they all are, like, gathering around this fire, and they're. Now they're gonna cook their dinner, which is unfortunately not. This is not an A plus experience for them because the groceries are very spotty. We did not, unfortunately, have a scene like we did on Beverly Hills, where they actually went into a supermarket, and we're like, oh, my God, they actually sell hot dog buns here.
Whitney Rose
Not just hot dogs.
Brittany Cartwright
What is this miracle place?
Heather Gay
But Angie doesn't really eat. I mean, we've seen clips. You know how Angie's like, I am going to have a scene with my father where I show him how I cook. It's like she doesn't, like, seem to really know what she's making. It's like, here is a grilled piece of salmon, and she was gonna bring.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, a whole lamb to cook on that campfire. And like, Angie, we can't do a lamb. Can you just bring some hot dogs? That's fine. So basically, she got hot dogs, but she didn't get buns, and she didn't, like, get napkins or something. Or she, like. She really missed, like, she didn't get ketchup. So they kind of are, like, putting together this, like, slap dash kind of barbecue thing. Mary just pulls out some supermarket bagel, and then she starts eating it like a. Like a piece of bread in a way that was, like, really weird to me. She's just biting into it. And they all look like they were starving and unhappy.
Heather Gay
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And she. The best part was she bought a brag. She brought a bag of asparagus with no way to cook asparagus.
Brittany Cartwright
Just a bag of asparagus.
Heather Gay
Yeah. So then they talk about. They all laugh about that stuff, and then they eat some raw hot dogs, and we don't get Any Beverly Hills. Like, oh, my God, a hot dog. I eat one hot dog every year. Hot dogs once a year. And Erica, like, look at me eating the hot dog. Look at me. I'm gonna eat a hot dog too. Yep, here it goes. Eating the hot dog. Me too. You first. You first. Okay, I ate some. Why is there a hot dog in the bush?
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, there's definitely none of that performative. Like, I. We're like celebrities. They're just like us moments, like they do on Beverly Hills. Because actually, like, what we do see is that the few people who do eat hot dogs, they've kind of like curled the hot dogs up in, like, a. There's like, burger buns. So they're like eating them in the burger buns in that way. And you know that, like, if we're on Beverly Hills, they would not know what to do. Like, well, well, first of all, they wouldn't even have the bun. And second of all, they just. They would not know. Well, we don't have hot dog buns. We have these burger buns. But I don't know. The hot dog is not the same shape as the burger bun, so we can't use it. Oh, well, I guess we're just not gonna have dinner tonight. Yeah. It just wouldn't be something that they would be able to figure out. But on this show, they're all sitting there with their hot dogs and the burger buns, which, by the way, for the record, I hate that. I hate having a hot dog in a breaded product that is not a hot dog bun. It's so annoying. Right? You have all that, like, non. Like, when you have. There's the part that sticks out from the bread that doesn't have any bread with it, so you're just eating, like, salt, like, solo hot dog. And then when you get to the bread, there's too much bread. Ugh. Hate it.
Heather Gay
I don't think there's ever too much bread. I'm just in it for the buns.
Brittany Cartwright
The proportions wrong. Proportions wrong. When you have it, like in a slice of bread.
Heather Gay
Yeah. It's not well thought out. Hot dogs in general, everybody knows, you know, they're not. They're not well thought out. They don't fit in the bun properly. And then you've got the whole, like, there's always one. There's a certain amount of hot dogs in the package, and there's one fewer bun, so it never really makes sense.
Brittany Cartwright
Worst grift. It's the worst grift that we've all.
Heather Gay
Hot Dogs have been us over for years. You know, no one's really ever done anything about it. And look at congress is like trying to fix all this bullshit that doesn't need fixing. Like get in there and deal with hot dog people.
Brittany Cartwright
I was just about to say that. Why can't like, let's, let's put some of this, this energy into something that's really useful, like getting hot dog buns and hot dog packages on the same. On the same page. Okay, it's time. It's time that we address this.
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Heather Gay
So Heather says, bronwyn, when you were at byu, did you ever hear of creepy stuff that would happen at Provo Canyon? And she's like, of course I did. Yeah, because girls would go missing. Is that true? I've heard stories. I've heard stories. I've heard a lot of stories that girls would come to Provo Canyon and there were things about their businesses and they weren't going right. And I'll tell you that much. I'm not sure if they're true, but I will tell you that I've heard them. I've heard them.
Brittany Cartwright
That's. That's why whenever you go into any Italian deli, they always say, don't go to Provo alone. Don't go to Provo alone. Don't think that's what they're saying.
Heather Gay
Well, I don't want to put a damper on this trip, but I love provolone. And this canyon is notorious for, like, freaky shit. And it's the, you know, the legend of Molly Sorensen, the polygamist girl who escaped the colony and had been seeking retaliation on the community ever since. On young girls, mostly. And Angie goes, what community? And Meredith goes, well, yeah, we're not young. We're saying.
Whitney Rose
I think we've aged out.
Brittany Cartwright
Of being abducted by ghosts. So I'm not too concerned. And if I do see a ghost, I'll say, you can leave.
Heather Gay
I'm just saying it's freaky. It's freaky. Girls go missing and women that had, like, sinned and she would basically bring them to justice, that's what would happen. She would take virgins and then she would murder them. No, she would take virgins who became sluts and then she would murder them for becoming sluts.
Brittany Cartwright
Heather is definitely regressing to her, like 12 year old self on a sleepover, trying to scare all the other girls and, like, no one's really. No one cares. Yeah, I mean, I never would have been a good time girl at BYU because. Because I knew the legend of Molly Sorensen. What happens to good time girls? And what you don't. You don't want to. Don't want to mess with her because we talked about it all the time at byu, especially when we were a freshman. Especially when we're out partying and flashing guys with our tits because we're good time girls. Oops, didn't mean to say that part.
Heather Gay
It's six years later, and Heather is still worried about being called a good time girl. I love it. I love that this tortures her her whole life. Like, she's never gonna let it go. She's like, I couldn't have been a good time girl. I was afraid of Molly Sorensen. You see, all these years later, still proving my point.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, I heard that Molly Sorensen goes and abducts people who use a thumbs up emoji, which is why I never would use that in a phone text.
Heather Gay
Molly Sorensen would murder people by sending them a thumbs up text emoji, which everybody knows means you're about to die, you slut. Everybody knows it so well we forgot to Google murders in Provo Canyon. Whitney's like, angie didn't do the research. So Heather's like, you guys might be surprised to see me helping Bronwyn with her hot dog, but I'm a good person because when you're in nature, it puts everything into perspective. It's just so beautiful.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes, everything's in perspective, which means that you can help someone else when their hot dog gets stuck on their little fork thing. So Brahman's like, yeah, yeah, we really.
Whitney Rose
You know, we kayaked it out. It was really fun.
Brittany Cartwright
It was really fun. Wow. Is it really nature, or do you think it's actually just fun that we're on a trip without Lisa and you can actually just be yourself? Heather goes, that's a shitty thing to say, Angie. Even though I was definitely thinking that.
Heather Gay
No, really, though. You don't think I'm myself around Lisa? You don't? I'm not myself around Lisa Barlow. Well, would you be nice to Bronwyn if Lisa was here? Well, I think that I would have had a good moment with her on a kayak. For sure. For sure. I would. And they're like, wow, Heather finally being herself without Lisa. Which is so silly. Heather's been friends with Lisa for five minutes.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. But also, hasn't this been, like, an ongoing, like. Well, that they. They go to on this show for a while? It was Heather's different person when she's not around Jen Shaw and then wasn't. Did Heather say this about Lisa at some point? Like, Lisa's a better person when she's maybe not around Meredith? I don't know. That part may be a confabulation on my part. But basically they're saying to Heather, like, yeah, look, you're so much more fun without Lisa around. Gosh. And Heather's like, well, I mean, okay, my stuff with Bronwyn is not about Lisa. And I thought it was worse that you jumped on board with it. And when he's like.
Whitney Rose
But it's, like, hard if you're, like, on the ads, I think with, like, Lisa, could someone interrupt me? I don't really know where my sentence.
Brittany Cartwright
Is going.
Heather Gay
But, like, who feels on the outs with Lisa right now, besides Bronwyn? Anybody? And Whitney's like, hello. Yeah. The very next day after New York, Lisa went online and started calling me a liar again. It was horrible. Well, because you were lying about her in the reunion, so that's why she was doing it. She's making her sound like she's being bullied. And Meredith's like, oh, and you didn't do anything online? You didn't do anything. I haven't done one thing. I stayed off.
Whitney Rose
Yeah. When any. Anytime something went on sale, the new iPhone went on sale. And I was like, I'm not getting in that line. I'm offline.
Brittany Cartwright
Brittany's like, well, I think that's, like, a little hypocritical because, like, I have a question.
Whitney Rose
Okay.
Brittany Cartwright
I have a question.
Whitney Rose
Why would you even say something so horrific, like, you just. I can't even say. It's so crass. But you said you do Jared for money.
Brittany Cartwright
How could you even say something like that, Whitney?
Heather Gay
Everybody just groans. They're like, oh, shut up. There's like, is Britney even a part of the same conversation? What is she talking about? And Whitney's like, I didn't say you did. I asked if you did. Yes, you did. You did say it. You said, why do you have sex with Jared for money? That's exactly what you said. No, I posed it as a question. Oh, she didn't say you have sex, by the way. She said, you suck dick.
Brittany Cartwright
She said you suck dick.
Whitney Rose
Am I right? Question mark.
Brittany Cartwright
So it's a question. So. So Whitney's like, yeah, when you came.
Whitney Rose
For my business, I put it back on you. And I said, what do you do for money? And then I said, ha. Because that was stronger. And yeah, I'm not proud that I said, you suck dick. Suck Jared's dick. But I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I said that.
Heather Gay
What does that have to do with people shading your business online? Why can't I shade your business online without being called a deep putter in her mouth?
Brittany Cartwright
Or.
Whitney Rose
Because it hurt, Britney. It hurt.
Heather Gay
But you literally, out of the blue said, britney USD for Jared.
Whitney Rose
I mean, because. Because you out of the blue brought up my business, Britney.
Heather Gay
No, because you were trying to shade Lisa and I was defending.
Whitney Rose
That's why Lisa's not a window. I wasn't trying to shade her.
Heather Gay
Then why would you say that when you were like, getting dragged on social media? That's a new low, Whitney. That is a new low, and I'm really disappointed. It's a real new low. It's because.
Whitney Rose
Because I had a business that failed, okay? That's it. Justin went in awe with me, and now we have nothing. It failed. It felt real bad, okay?
Heather Gay
I don't have a business pending lawsuits and in, like, general is in legal turmoil. Like, I have a business that failed. I had to fire 30 employees. Do you think that was fine? It wasn't fun. Okay.
Whitney Rose
Although we did have a little bit of, like, we put out some lemonade and put out party hats and said, congrats, now that you're fired, you get a free piece of Prism jewelry. So it was actually, actually, like, firing them was pretty fun, now that I think about it. We had a great time.
Heather Gay
Yeah, but, Whitney, that's why it's so hypocritical for you to be making fun of Somebody else's troubles that they're having in business. Do you not see that this is exactly why you're a fucking hypocrite. But she's put on the victim cloak, so it has shielded her. So Brom. So now everybody's just like, oh, you know, they're just staring at her and Bromwick.
Brittany Cartwright
That's a good one.
Heather Gay
I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that your business felt.
Whitney Rose
I felt.
Heather Gay
Yeah, I didn't know it felt.
Brittany Cartwright
I felt.
Heather Gay
I didn't know.
Whitney Rose
I felt. It's something I was really excited about and that started as a massive success. And by started as a massive success, you know, I sold a few things and then it just went downhill from there. Then I failed.
Heather Gay
Yeah, her whole changing the name of the company halfway through was stupid. Like, you've worked all these years on building a brand, and then you're like, nah, I'm going to just change it and change everything about it and then pretend I was designing jewelry that I'm getting off of Temu or whatever.
Brittany Cartwright
Was it Milo?
Heather Gay
And the first one was Whitney Rose, Wasn't it? Wasn't it just like Whitney Rose? And then she changed it to the name of her kids and then she had Prism. So I'm not really sure which one felled, but it's a lot of changes there. Not a lot of consistency. So she's like, I'm not a stranger to the ebbs and flows of business, but I have never actually had something just flat out tank. We're talking millions, thousands. And it's just so emotionally hard for me because I didn't just felt myself. I felt my employees, I felt my customers, I felt my family. Like, I just felt like the weight of everyone this is affected. I felt how much I felt. You know what I mean?
Brittany Cartwright
I feel like there was like a confessional look a year or two ago that you could say, did tank. I think you did tank on at least one thing so far.
Whitney Rose
But I felt. I felt. You're like, I made a bad choice and I'm clearing. I'm cleaning up all that shit from.
Brittany Cartwright
It, which is that I decided to take a poop with a toilet seat down.
Whitney Rose
It was a terrible choice.
Brittany Cartwright
And now I'm cleaning it up.
Whitney Rose
But I don't need my.
Heather Gay
I'm sorry, Whit. Okay? I'm sorry. You can say that I suck d for money now. You can say it now. But I don't think. I don't think you are sorry because why would you sling mud at me today. Why would you bring it up? Why would you even bring up someone's business? How could you do that to a woman when we're talking about Lisa's business styling?
Whitney Rose
How could you sling mud at me?
Brittany Cartwright
It's like. Well, to me, fair. We are kind of surrounded and sitting in mud. It's almost like anything we do. Fling some mud somewhere.
Whitney Rose
No. So maybe learn the lesson that unless you know facts, you don't go there.
Brittany Cartwright
Whitney Rose, suddenly getting on a pedestal about facts is hilarious.
Whitney Rose
Bronwyn has facts. Those are court documents. Mine are. Are tiktokers that want to get famous off of my failure. My failure. I just want you to have the facts. And I'm not scared to admit it. I love facts. That's why my favorite show growing up was Different Strokes.
Brittany Cartwright
I. I know you thought I was.
Whitney Rose
Gonna say Facts of Life.
Brittany Cartwright
It wasn't that one. But I like Different Strokes.
Whitney Rose
I'm not.
Heather Gay
And I end this by asking everybody sitting here, what you talking about, Willis? What you talking about? Okay, I'm sorry. You know what? That's fair. I'm really sorry, Whitney. I'm really sorry.
Whitney Rose
No, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you may not be right for some. Think about it, Britney.
Heather Gay
You know, I've had so many business failures before Beauty Lab. You know, we don't talk about our losses as women, as sisters. We don't talk about that. We talk about winning. We don't talk about failing.
Whitney Rose
Okay?
Heather Gay
And I think that this is the time.
Brittany Cartwright
That's why I'm. That's why we'd be talking about my. I will be talking about my losses in my new New York Times bestseller book, I Just won.
Heather Gay
The Winning Mormon by Heather Gay. And Brahm was like. But the losses, that's where you learn something. That's where you learn something. You should talk about your loss. Which is why I'm going on a TED Talk tour about lying about that necklace, because that was. That wasn't right. That was.
Brittany Cartwright
Ghost of Lisa Barlow says I do talk about my losses. For instance, I lost a $60,000 ring in palm Springs. Yeah. So that was a loss. That was a loss.
Heather Gay
Monica has it. Monica's still wearing in her TikToks. She's still wearing in her TikToks. I have to say, like, it takes a lot of courage to be an entrepreneur or to take a risk or to start your own business or to buy an RV or to have a twin size bed that you share with your husband. That would never happen. And thanks for being vulnerable because really I believe that. I think all of us are in business or have our own business. Know how hard it is. They're like, oh, my God, we're just sisters, guys. So Whitney's like, yeah. And I have to watch my back every day that someone's going to write a story. And Brittany comes up behind her and starts hugging her and she's like, ew, I'm not ready for a hug. God.
Whitney Rose
Well, okay, But I still want an apology for the dick sucking comments.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, she did apologize, by the way, just now. Oh, my God, Brittany. Brittany. She's like pouring her heart out.
Whitney Rose
Well, I can still give you sympathy and still think that, like, it was a shitty thing to say.
Brittany Cartwright
Okay, let's do one step at a time. One step at a time. Let's go step by step.
Whitney Rose
I also like that one too. That was up there with different strokes.
Brittany Cartwright
Okay, sympathy first and then you can work on apology later.
Heather Gay
They're not mutually excusive, as Meredith would say. Okay, sympathy first, apologies later, Brittany. And so Britney's like, well, how can she say whatever she wants? But then I make a slight gaffe and I have to fall all over myself apologizing. What's that about? What's it about?
Brittany Cartwright
The gaff. Gaff? Yeah, gaffs. So Angie's like, britney, you have caught you like him in hot.
Whitney Rose
She's like, thank you so much.
Brittany Cartwright
I knew that bikini was the right decision. No, that's not what that means.
Whitney Rose
Oh, well, I'm just clapping back and just standing up for myself. I felt like I was a punching bag and I don't want that anymore. I don't want to be a punching bag. Guys, I have an announcement. I'm no longer a punching bag.
Brittany Cartwright
Okay, Brittany, we don't want to hear it. The one person who was nice to you, you went after it. In case you. You can't figure that out. It was me. Remember when you said I was crying in the bathroom late at night? I remember. And you burned this bridge.
Heather Gay
I'm not interested. I'm not interested in you. Britain is like, meredith, you turned on me on a dime. Meredith. And then we see the recording thing. Are you recording us? I am done with you. I have had enough of you.
Whitney Rose
We were good friends. Then all of a sudden.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, no, we were never good friends.
Heather Gay
Friends.
Brittany Cartwright
We were barely even friends. I barely even knew you. Do not lie.
Heather Gay
Oh, really? Oh, really? Lie? Yeah. How many times have I talked to you on the telephone, Britney? Have I ever picked up the phone and called you, she goes, yes, you have. Yes, you have. What? Once. Twice.
Brittany Cartwright
Twice. 200% more than you thought.
Heather Gay
And we also went to lunch for a couple of hours, and that was nice. Don't laugh at me. She's like.
Whitney Rose
They talked on the phone twice.
Heather Gay
No.
Whitney Rose
Well, you used me.
Brittany Cartwright
You used me, Meredith.
Whitney Rose
Oh.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, I use you? Yeah. Cause I really need you. My toddler is more famous than your fingernail, and I'm the one who used you. I don't think so.
Heather Gay
Yes, you use me. It's a punching bag for your lit. Your latent aggression.
Whitney Rose
Murder sees me as the weakest link, and she could just go after me like a target. And I absolutely think that. But she doesn't know me that well.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, well, you're the one who just was proclaiming that you guys were really good friends. You were the one who just was like, we're really good friends. We spoke on the phone. She doesn't know me that well, like, within, like, 10 seconds of saying those things.
Heather Gay
Brittany. Well, I don't need a thing from you. And I find you to be absolutely uninteresting. All right? I have zero, zero respect for you, all right? You're like Ro to me. I will always choose caviar. Always.
Brittany Cartwright
Okay, listen, guys, Guys, Heather Gay here. I have done a little research on the legend of Molly McButter.
Heather Gay
I'm sorry.
Brittany Cartwright
Molly Sorensen. Mary's like, isn't it time for us to go to bed already? No. Don't you want to do a little investigating, Mary? Don't you want to do this? Let's go on a little tour and see what we can find out here in the dark. Oh, God.
Heather Gay
And Mary's like, in every scary movie, the black person gets killed first. So I'm not, like, I'm not doing.
Brittany Cartwright
This, but they do.
Heather Gay
So they do it.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, they're gonna do it. So they get on their cameras, and they're. And Heather's, like, locked and loaded. Camcorders ready, eyes and ears open. Anything spooky, stay in tune with yourself.
Whitney Rose
And if anything happens, scream.
Brittany Cartwright
That's the first rule.
Whitney Rose
Noise is our friend.
Brittany Cartwright
Is this a rule for Molly Sorensen, or is this their rule for going to a reunion at the end of the season? Oh, you did we freeze.
Heather Gay
Yeah, we froze for a second. What'd you say?
Brittany Cartwright
I said when she said, if anything happens, scream. That's the first rule. Noise is our friend. I was like, is this for finding Molly Sorensen, or is this, like, your advice for doing that's?
Heather Gay
How I feel when I turn on your show. I'm like, noise is our friend. I love the screaming. It feels so good. So think of the legend of Provo Canyon, the things we heard at BYU and heard around the campfire growing up. And most of all, think of the fact that Molly Sorensen is still on the hunt and she's looking for women with loose morals. And then she shines her camera at Britney.
Brittany Cartwright
Why are we walking in the mud? So then there's like a noise. Did you hear that?
Whitney Rose
I don't like this.
Brittany Cartwright
Let's go. I don't like it. I don't like this at all. They start to run, and then they're like, they're freaking out. They're.
Whitney Rose
They're.
Brittany Cartwright
They've, like, now, like, worked themselves into a tizzy. And Heather's like, I don't know how we get home.
Whitney Rose
How do we get home?
Brittany Cartwright
How do we get home? I'm like, run towards all the light of the production in the corner there. You see.
Heather Gay
Looks right into the camcorder. She puts it right in her face and she's like.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, gosh, just start seeing her Miss Saigon again. Well, we can't go forward. I think we need to go back. I don't want to go here. There's no toddlers in this area. I want to go back to the safety.
Heather Gay
Yeah. And then we just start hearing screams coming from everywhere. And Meredith's like, I don't like this. I don't like this. And they're standing on in the middle of a train track.
Brittany Cartwright
You see, like, you see just flashes.
Heather Gay
Of lights, like they're all gonna die. And they end this episode making us think that these women are really gonna be killed by Molly Sorence in the Slut Killer. And they take themselves completely serious.
Brittany Cartwright
And I loved it. It was dying. Well, again, only this show can have this silly ass thing as an actual. Like they said, we're gonna start the season off with a cliffhanger about, like, a ghost that's gonna kill the entire cast. That's what they. That's what production really said. Like, this is where we're gonna leave off and we're all on board.
Heather Gay
And that's what they did. And it worked. I loved it. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. Thanks for being on Crappins on Demand and on Patreon everywhere else. We'll see you Monday night at 5:30pm Pacific to do some crappy hour. Bye, everybody.
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Podcast Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: September 17, 2025
This episode of Watch What Crappens is part two of Ben and Ronnie’s gleeful, snarky recap of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 6, Episode 1. The hosts dig deep into the cast trip, expose the intricate webs of lies, business failures, and grievances, and take apart the episode’s centerpiece: the legend of "Molly Sorensen, the Provo Canyon Slut Killer." Their signature loving mockery hits its stride as they cover hot dog disasters, failed business ventures, ghost stories, and friendship betrayals, all delivered with whip-smart banter.
“She somehow admits it in a way that makes you feel sympathetic for her.” (Ben, 04:13)
“Well, that was short and sweet. Britney doesn’t understand how an announcement works.” (Heather Gay, 09:26)
“The proportions wrong. When you have it, like in a slice of bread…” (Brittany Cartwright, 20:23)
“Hot Dogs have been [screwing] us over for years. … Congress, get in there and deal with hot dog people.” (Heather Gay, 20:44)
“It failed. It felt real bad, okay?” (Whitney Rose, 31:40)
Bronwyn’s meta-lie:
“I lied because I thought they’d be too stupid to catch me. And I was doing it so that way I could feel cool.”
— Ben (summarizing), 03:58
Whitney, on awkward run-ins:
“Do you want to buy some prison jewelry? And they say no. And I’m like, but my business, it’s really awkward every time.”
— Whitney Rose, 10:47
On hot dog disasters:
“Hot Dogs have been [screwing] us over for years... Congress, get in there and deal with hot dog people.”
— Heather Gay, 20:44
On the Molly Sorensen legend:
“Molly Sorensen would murder people by sending them a thumbs up text emoji, which everybody knows means you’re about to die, you slut.”
— Heather Gay, 26:58
Whitney’s failed business reveal:
“It felt real bad, okay? … I felt how much I felt. You know what I mean?”
— Whitney Rose, 33:56
On group dynamics:
“Wow, Heather finally being herself without Lisa. Which is so silly. Heather’s been friends with Lisa for five minutes.”
— Brittany Cartwright, 27:55
Ending cliffhanger:
“They end this episode making us think that these women are really gonna be killed by Molly Sorensen the Slut Killer. And they take themselves completely serious. And I loved it.”
— Heather Gay, 43:16
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|---------------------| | 03:36–05:14 | Bronwyn’s confession and lie analysis | | 05:14–08:04 | Jewelry accusations, Lisa as information broker | | 09:00–11:23 | Brittany’s double engagement announcement | | 11:43–16:32 | Campsite activities/fishing/kayak hilarity | | 15:59–17:11, 24:38–26:05, 40:32–43:26 | Molly Sorensen ghost story threads & cliffhanger | | 17:11–20:54 | Hot dog dinner and bun arithmetic debate | | 27:30–28:49 | Group dynamic without Lisa Barlow | | 29:04–37:34 | Business failures, hypocrisy, insults | | 38:07–40:16 | Brittany vs. Meredith friendship math | | 40:32–43:26 | Ghost hunt and horror-movie sendup ending |
Ben and Ronnie maintain their classic Crappens tone: part parody, part affectionate Bravo obsession, always irreverent. They freely hop into impressions of cast members, peppering their recap with running gags about Housewives logic, failed products, and petty squabbles. Their banter is quick, referential, and full of both critiques and praise for the show’s self-aware ridiculousness.
This episode is a must-listen for Bravo fans who cherish both the drama of RHOSLC and the meta-commentary that only Ben and Ronnie can deliver.