#3007 Crappy Hour 9-22-25: RHONY and RHONJ Casting Rumors

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #3007

Crappy Hour 9-22-25: RHONY and RHONJ Casting Rumors

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: September 23, 2025
Theme: A comedic, gossipy dive into the latest rumors and news surrounding The Real Housewives of New York (RHONY), The Real Housewives of New Jersey (RHONJ), and other Bravo casting stories, along with reaction to recent viral Bravo moments.

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Overview

In this Crappy Hour episode, Ben and Ronnie tackle the latest swirl of casting rumors and Bravo drama, focusing on the alleged shake-ups in RHONY and RHONJ. The pair dissect cast lists floating online, riff on viral Bravo moments and infamous Housewife quotes, and touch on trending stories from across the “Bravoverse.” Their signature blend of humor, improv, and sharp cultural analysis is on full display as they discuss what makes great Housewives casting, share tangents about pet care during the Rapture, and recap awkward real-life run-ins with Bravo celebrities and fans.

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Main Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. The (Non-)Arrival of the Rapture and Russ Hashanah

• [03:05–07:39]
  • Ronnie and Ben open with tongue-in-cheek banter about people online claiming the Rapture was imminent.
  • Jokes about whether animals are taken in the Rapture and how pet care would be handled.
    • Quote: Ronnie: “I guess the sinners are gonna stay down here and take care of all the holy people’s pets, I guess, is how the Rapture works.” (04:22)
  • Ben pivots to wishing a real “Happy Rosh Hashanah,” and the two joke about commemorating the Jewish holiday in T-shirts.

2. Viral Housewife Moments—Sarah from RHODubai

• [07:47–09:51]
  • Social media’s latest: Sarah from RHODubai’s nonsensical “Don’t love your job, job your love” quote goes viral.
    • Ben: “...for the majority of the world, minus like 25,000 people, they have no idea who this lady is. She just shows up out of nowhere saying this bullshit.” (08:28)
  • Ronnie: “That girl’s not getting raptured because, you know, God’s like, no...”
  • The hosts revisit past jokes about Sarah’s “spiritual platitude, bullshit comments.”

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3. RHONY Casting Rumors & Speculation

3.1. Erin Lichy and OG Cast Encounters

• [10:32–12:43]
  • Ronnie recounts Erin’s tales about encountering OGs like Sonja (“never remembers who I am”) and Ramona (“I don’t watch that, it’s doing terribly”).
    • Ben: “That’s so Ramona. ‘I look young. They look old. I look young. They look old.’” (12:43)

3.2. Who’s In, Who’s Out: Rumored New and Returning Housewives

• [13:02–21:20]
  • Reported returning: Sai, Erin Jessel, and maybe Jenna.
    • Ronnie: “Fine. I just need more time.” (13:52)
    • Ben and Ronnie wish for a cast representing the “worst of New York,” not just influencers or fashion people.
  • Discussion of rumored new cast members, including:
    • Nicole Daisy Toye (Martha Stewart’s makeup artist, “really rich”)
    • June Ambrose (celebrity stylist; listeners excited about her)
    • Erica Faye Jones (real estate developer, Faye Resnick vibes; possible Potomac connection)
    • Chanel Jones (Today Show host, potential for TV-fake realness)
    • Sarah Wettenhall (owner Colony Palm Beach/Hedges East Hampton, “sounds terrible—let’s do it”)
  • Ben: “Shows are about the people who employ the makeup artists—not necessarily the makeup artists.” (18:25)
  • “There are crazy people from all walks of life… Bravo tried to do something that was out of the pages of Cosmo… no one wants Cosmo… we want stupid people from Town and Country.” (16:44)

3.3. Jenna Lyons: Friend or Full-Time?

• [30:32–31:08]
  • Ben: “I think that Jenna should be a friend of… she might need like a friend-of season and then we can reevaluate…”

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4. RHONJ Casting Turmoil

• [31:14–34:35]
  • Rumors of Teresa Giudice being out due to refusing to film with Melissa.
  • The hosts are skeptical: “I really cannot tell what the situation is with Teresa. …Bravo is never going to drop Teresa, but people are saying Louie is too much of a liability.” (32:14)
  • Story of a drunken afterparty where Jackie Goldschneider tells Jen Fessler she only cares about famous people:
    • Ronnie: “It was just so awkward...I was cracking up and just hearing Jen Fessler.” (36:20)

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5. Other Bravo News & Predictions

5.1. Rhode Island and BravoCon Previews

• [36:20–37:48]
  • Anticipation for BravoCon announcements: possible Rhode Island cast reveals, Summer House sizzle, and even Ladies of London teasers.

5.2. Summer House: Paige Quits

• [46:52–49:49]
  • Ben reads headline about Paige DeSorbo quitting; speculation about her wanting to move on to bigger things and not deal with “Kyle, Jesse Solomon, Lexi Wood…”
    • Ben: “Let her do famous things… She worked hard!”

5.3. RHOA Casting Shifts & K. Michelle’s Clapback

• [50:44–53:02]
  • Controversy as K. Michelle is rumored for RHOA; she fires back at Gizelle Bryant and Robyn Dixon:
    • K. Michelle (via Ronnie): “You little couch potatoes just yapping...”
    • Ben: “Weaponizing couch potato against Robin is oddly so perfect.”

5.4. Atlanta & Potomac Miscellany

• [53:07–54:33]
  • Kenya Moore’s salon reportedly closed/foreclosed, and a viral video is suspected of showing a “rat” (actually her Yorkie). The irony is not lost on anyone.

5.5. Jen Shah: Will She Be Back?

• [54:33–55:50]
  • Andy Cohen says he never wants to see Jen Shah again, but Ben and Ronnie suspect Bravo will bring her back “for ratings.”

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6. Real-Life Bravo Party Drama

• [39:30–46:40]
  • Ronnie recounts a heated political argument with Kelly Dodd and her husband at a Jeff Lewis party, ending with “we agreed to disagree.”
    • “One thing I love is screaming in arguments with people I disagree with… but we always find a way to make up and laugh together.” – Ronnie (40:40–42:06)
  • Ben’s awkward position being caught in the middle:
    • Ben: “If I leave now, then it seems like I’m running away from this thing… I just want to go home and have dinner.” (46:23)

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Notable Quotes

• “[Sarah from Dubai] just shows up out of nowhere saying this bullshit.” — Ben (08:28)
• “You know, you just need someone who’s insane to be a good Housewife… and it’s nothing to do with diversity. There are ignorant people of every color and I think they should all be represented.” — Ronnie (15:45)
• [On new RHONY speculated cast] “She sounds terrible. Let’s do it.”— Ronnie on Sarah Wettenhall (30:03)
• “[Jen Fessler] I slept with Tony Soprano. I don’t know if you’ve heard.” — Ronnie as Jen Fessler (34:42)
• “Let me go yodel in peace; I’m around here selling out shows and you’re selling baseball hats, but you’re worried about me…” — K. Michelle (as read by Ronnie) (51:57)
• “[Ronnie] One thing I love is screaming in arguments with people I disagree with… but we always laugh together.” (40:40)
• “[Jen Shah] is going to worm her way back in there somehow.” — Ronnie (54:52)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:05 – Rapture banter & Real-life holiday talk
• 07:47 – Sarah Dubai’s viral “job your love” quote
• 10:32 – Erin RHONY run-ins and OG cast shade
• 13:02 – Casting rumors begin: who’s in, who’s out (infographic discussion)
• 18:16–21:20 – June Ambrose, stylists, and audience reactions
• 30:32 – Jenna Lyons: friend-of debate
• 31:14 – NJ drama about Teresa and Melissa
• 34:35 – Jackie and Jen Fessler’s afterparty spat
• 36:20–37:48 – BravoCon teases and Summer House city spin-off
• 46:52–49:49 – Paige DeSorbo “quits” Summer House
• 50:44–53:02 – K. Michelle v. Robyn & Gizelle; RHOA buzz
• 53:07 – Kenya Moore’s salon and viral “rat” video
• 54:33–55:50 – Jen Shah’s potential return discussion
• 39:30–46:40 – Jeff Lewis party/Real-life Bravo confrontation

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Conclusion

This episode is classic “Crappens”—a rapid-fire, joke-filled, passionate deconstruction of Bravo’s current and rumored drama. The hosts’ deep knowledge of the franchises shines through as they provide both snark and genuine creative suggestions for the future of RHONY, RHONJ, and RHOA. They balance viral meme analysis, true gossip, Community (audience) Q&A, and personal stories, keeping the tone rambunctiously fun for Bravo fans both casual and obsessed.

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For the full, unfiltered sass, running gags, and listener shoutouts, listen to the complete episode wherever you get podcasts!

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

Yes, Virgin. Yeah. Thanks, Virgin Voyages for sponsoring this lovely crappy hour. And it could be the final crappy hour ever. I mean, Virgin could be our final sponsor, because tomorrow is the Rapture, people. It is the Rapture. Whole people are going to heaven, and the rest of us are.

[Ben]

Wait a second. Okay, wait. Why is there a rapture on Russ Hashanah, by the way? Happy Russ Hashanah. To my fellow happy Rapture.

[Ronnie]

Sha. No, Happy Russ. Yeah.

[Ben]

Wait, why is there a rapture tomorrow? Where did that come from? I feel like normally there's, like, leading up. No, I thought, like, normally there's like. Remember when there was one in, like, 2012, it was like, everyone's talking about the rapture, the rapture, May 20, May 21, whenever it was. You can't just, like, have a surprise Rapture. It doesn't work that way.

[Ronnie]

I didn't know till a few days ago. I started seeing all these tiktoks posted on Reddit of people being like, y', all, the Raptors coming. We're so excited. You know, we're selling all our stuff. I'm just sitting out here looking at the stars and just. I just can't wait for Rapture Day. Like, people are so excited that think they're getting Raptured. I saw a lady today who was, like, going to Walmart to buy more Bibles, which. I don't know. Do you just need those for the raptures, like, to prove that you're, like, the most religious?

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Ronnie]

But she was stocking up on Bibles, and she was leaving, like, to go when she left notes on how to take care of her pets. I guess the sinners are gonna stay down here and take care of all the holy people's pets, I guess, is how the Rapture works. That's how it seems to be in their mind.

[Ben]

So the Rapture does not take animals, too, Just humans, I guess.

[Ronnie]

Well, some people are like, oh, my gosh, will they take the dogs? You know, that's like, a big thing on TikTok right now. They're like, is Jesus gonna take our dogs or just us? But I used to be. I was raised that the Rapture meant that the sinners all burn. I think we all burn down here, and then the holy people get taken up. But I think now people are like, oh, no, you just have to stay on Earth and take care of our pets, I guess.

[Ben]

Oh, okay. So it's just basically like free dog city. Okay. Yeah. Dog sitting.

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Ben]

Well, I hope that there's no Rapture tomorrow because Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is on, so I would. That'd be terrible timing. We're just adc.

[Ronnie]

KDC says some of us can finally get a house.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's hilarious.

[Ronnie]

Well, I got a huge deal on this house, the Rapture Market. It was pretty good this year.

[Ben]

The new show on hgtv, Rapture Hunters. Well, now that a whole bunch of inventories opened up, Joyce and Michael have decided to move to Manhattan.

[Ronnie]

One of their. One of their places is close to the center of town. The other place is close to the.

[Ben]

Burning fiery pits of hell.

[Ronnie]

Which will they choose?

[Ben]

Great news, everyone. Lola Broadhead says she's in the UK. It's 1:33am and the rapture has not happened yet. So fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. I mean, it's all. Look, it's already happened. I mean, look, I mean, if you're like, in Asia, you've been. You've been in prime Rapture, Rapture time for many hours. Does the Rapture care about time zones? Is it like.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's the thing. No one knows what time exactly because there's so many different time zones, you know, so people are going to be waiting for a while. It's not going to be like, I was completely wrong at 6:00am you know, it's going to take a couple of days. And then there, you know, we'll see if there are a couple of days left.

[Ben]

It's like it. It's like finding you have a package that's showing up with FedEx ground, and you're like, well, it's out for delivery. It's arriving sometime today. And then at like, five, four, you're like, sorry, it's coming in. We don't really know when it's coming in. You'll get an update in a few days. Like, but what about the Rapture?

[Ronnie]

Exactly. Yeah, you've been rescheduled. The Rapture has been rescheduled. So just wait. So I don't know. We'll see. Time will tell. Okay? Time will tell. But good luck to everybody out there. Let's hope we get taken.

[Ben]

Well, happy Russia, Shana. For real. I forgot that it was tonight. I thought it was tomorrow. It is tomorrow, but I forgot that it actually starts tonight. I'm being a bad jewelry. So apologies to whoever was hoping that I'd make them a Russ Hashanah dinner tonight. Because I'm not. Because I didn't. And I have no apples. And I went to the market today, and I still didn't buy any apples, which was my failure.

[Ronnie]

But. But, but you know what?

[Ben]

But.

[Ronnie]

But blue is a very Jewish color, and we're both in blue.

[Ben]

We're blue.

[Ronnie]

So you know what? We're honoring. This is our honor. This is our. Our fancy Russias on a T shirt.

[Ben]

So let's talk some Bravo stuff, shall we? Let's. Let's kick off the new year with some Bravo. Some Bravo goss, shall we?

[Ronnie]

Okay. Well, what do you want to start with?

[Ben]

Well, you know what? Actually, there's something I want to start with. Let's, you know, I always like to start, you know, with like, a little stupid thing there's something we have not addressed. And I don't know if you've even seen this. Have you been aware on TikTok and on social media that Sarah from Real Housewives of Dubai has gone viral? Have you seen her little quote going all over social media from a few weeks ago?

[Ronnie]

The one where she said, don't, don't let your job. Don't do the job you love. Love that.

[Ben]

What did she say? No, don't. Don't love your job. Job, your love.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Job your love. Yeah. That's been going for a while.

[Ben]

It's been going on for a while. But I feel like we've never addressed it, and I feel like we just have to address, like, we have to say, like, we are aware that this is happening. And I think it's. What's to me so funny about it is that for the. For the majority of the world, for like the entire world population, minus, like 25,000 people, they have no idea who this lady is. She just shows up out of nowhere saying this bullshit. And then for those of us who know who Sarah is, I think this is the most hilarious thing because I just love that we sat through two seasons of her speaking utter bullshit that makes no sense, being a total faker. And now she's basically getting roasted by the world. And of course, she sees it as praise. She sees it as, like her message.

[Ronnie]

Getting, oh, my God, I went viral. You know, like I said, don't do the job you love, job you love. Drop your job or whatever. Don't love your job, job, your love.

[Ben]

Yeah. She tries to explain what this actually means. Don't love your job, job your love. She tries to explain it as, like, you know, the love that you have. Like, treat it like a job. Like, go and, like, you know, show up and, like, you put in your hours and, like, that's your love. Like, that's. That's what's like, shut up, Sarah. Shut up, Sarah. And.

[Ronnie]

And.

[Ben]

And then the fact that, like, she. They all have to say, Dr. Sarah Al. Mom, Donnie, when she, like, went like, she had, like, this bogus. Not. I'm not going to say bogus, but she got a stupid degree. She got a stupid doctorate, and now everyone has to call her a doctor. She's just. I don't know.

[Ronnie]

Well, you know, ridiculous, Hilarious. I think I never brought it up because I feel like we've already done that before when we talked about Dubai, because we would always make comments like that, you know, because she was always making some spiritual platitude, bullshit comments. And so I felt like we had already done so many riffs on that that it just seemed like one of those times where something we constantly made fun of literally came true right in front of our eyes. And it just made me feel good. I will tell you this much. That girl's not getting raptured because, you know, God's like, no, don't drop your last.

[Ben]

Don't.

[Ronnie]

Don't drop your don't. Love.

[Ben]

Your rapture. Rapture. Your love. Which actually makes more sense than what she says.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she's still a dummy. So there are some Real Housewives of New York casting rumors. Well, first I saw a clip of an interview with Aaron. Aaron, Leechy Queen. Oh, wow. You know, you all, if. Even if you don't watch New York, you might know her as the person who brought a very special alcohol to America for the first time.

[Ben]

Yeah, Mezcal.

[Ronnie]

Mezcal. She brought me. What an innovator we had. Never heard. Aaron's pretty good. It's pretty good. I heard mezcal.

[Ben]

I heard it's great. I'm so glad that she invented it.

[Ronnie]

She's the Christopher Columbus of mezcal.

[Ben]

She really is. She brought it over to America in blankets filled with smallpox.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Her mezcal is her smallpox blanket.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Remember that next time you take a sip.

[Ben]

Eren, who is just full of so much personality. And really, one has to credit Aaron for really being a breakout star on that reboot. Thank God for her. Thank God for all that humor and personality.

[Ronnie]

She's just so Erin in this interview. So she's talking about who she knows from the OG cast, and she's like, yeah, well, I see Sonya, but she never remembers who I am. I mean, it's, like, ridiculous. I'm like, hello. Like, I literally know you. Like, we've literally met. And she just. Every time she sees me, she's like, who are you? I mean, really. I mean, Aaron. You're Aaron. You know, Aaron.

[Ben]

And Sonia's. Sonia, too. Like, you're forgettable and she's forgetful. I mean, what do you expect? Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And then she says that her mom. She says, luann's a blast. Dorinda's a blast. Bethany's actually been very nice to me on dm. Like, she really. She told me where to get the best chicken salad. I thought the. That was really nice. But her mom lives in Ramona's apartment building. Not her apartment, but her apartment building. And they ran into each other, and my mom said something to her like, oh, yeah, my daughter's on the show now. And she's like, oh, yeah, I don't watch that. It's doing terribly. And my mom's, like, dying. She's like, okay, thanks. That's so Ramona.

[Ben]

That's so Ramona. Like, you know what? I'm sorry. You know, I can't watch the reboot. But you know what? I was doing terribly. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But from what I've heard, everyone on the show looks older than me. Okay. Because I look young. They look old. I look young. They look old.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Okay, so there are casting rumors on Real Housewives of New York. I mean, you got to hand it to them for. They just keep trying, you know? That's commendable.

[Ben]

Yeah, it really is. So we know that Bryn is gone. We know that Rebecca Minkoff. Becky. Becky Minkoff is gone.

[Ronnie]

Becky backs Becca.

[Ben]

So there's. Over on entertainment now.com, there's a handy infographic. Actually, this came. The infographic really came from the IG account where what happens live. So, by the way, there's no. There's.

[Ronnie]

There's.

[Ben]

There's nothing that says any of this is true. This is just what's going through the gossip mill right now. And so the goss is that returning players are sai, Aaron Jessel, and maybe Jenna. How do you feel about just that rumor alone?

[Ronnie]

I mean. Fine, Fine. I think I just need more time. You know? I need more time.

[Ben]

What if time was the next person coming back? It's gonna be psy. Aaron Jessel and time.

[Ronnie]

Can we worry about this after Rapture time? It's one of those stories where I'm like, yeah, I don't know that I'm Ready? Yeah. I just need some more time. I mean, look, every. Every season we try and scrub the DVR of our brains and start. Start anew. So I just hope it's better. The last one was super not great and ended really badly. So I don't know. I don't know that any of that was these people's fault, but I. I don't really credit them with giving a great season either. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. You know, I hope. I hope it's great. I want New York to be great. So that's what I'll say. I'll keep it positive like that. I want New York to be great. So whatever you're doing over there, I hope you do it greatly.

[Ben]

I think that's a great. That's a great attitude. I think we all. We're actually all rooting. We're like Tara Banks. We're rooting for you. We're all rooting for you. We want New York to be great. It has a great legacy. I'm not trying to be a pun with that, but it does have a great legacy and we want nothing but the best. It's one of the greatest cities in the nation, if not the world. It has such a unique identity. Like, it just needs to be given a cast that should reflect the greatness of New York. But actually maybe not the true greatness of New York because they actually tried to address the true greatness in New York by showing like, of this big, diverse cast of fascinating, you know, art already fashion forward people. But it's like, no, I actually want kind of the worst of New York. I kind of want the awful people in the Upper east side who are tone deaf and obnoxious and they go to the Hamptons. They don't. They don't understand how much things cost and. And they're terrible. Like, that's actually what I want. I want to go into their worlds. I don't need to go into an influencer's world. I know I don't. It's not exciting for me to go into a Brinwood Field world so.

[Ronnie]

Well. It's also, also, I think one thing they were trying to do, you know, beyond the diversity, because New York had been getting in so much trouble because of comments that not Dorinda, that Ramona was making and the season with Ebony and all that that happened, that was a disaster of a season. And I think that they were coming back thinking, you know what? We'll give the audience what they want. Non problematic People who aren't going to get canceled. And of course that ended up backfiring with Brynn. But at the time, you know, you could kind of see what they were going for. The problem with that is non problematic. People who don't. Aren't going to get canceled any minute don't make good housewives. To be a good real housewife, you have to be insane and you have to prepare to try and like, they're going to counsel them at some point, they're going to say something. They're going to be so bold that they're going to get in trouble. And that's part of the being a real housewife. And it, it's nothing to do with the diversity. It doesn't mean you have to have a bunch of ignorant white ladies, but there are ignorant people of every color and I think they should all be represented.

[Ben]

Absolutely. Well, there are plenty of crazy people from all walks of life that they should find. And instead, Bravo tried to do something that was like, I don't know, out of the pages of like Cosmo or something. And it was like, no one wants Cosmo. We want to watch. We want to like, see the stupid people from like Town and Country or something. But yeah, we need it. We need to fix that. However, I mean, I. It wasn't a total outright failure. I do think that Jessel was a great find. Someone who is delusional, who is ridiculous, who says ridiculous things. Like, that's where Jessel. Jesse was so strong. They did not send her this last season. I always said that was a mistake. I think Aaron, I don't know Aaron, like, I believe it or not, I actually was rooting for Aaron to be better than she was. I think Aaron was. She was trying. She, she understood the assignment, but she just couldn't execute it the way I think that she saw that she could. She knew that she had to stir the pot. She knew she had to get into things, but she just wasn't compelling in the way she, in the way she did it. And you know, I think Psy was most improved. So when they said that Jessel. The rumor is Jessel and Sai come back. I can't believe that I'm actually in a place where I'm like, okay with Psy being back because after the first season, I like, I never wanted to see her on my TV again.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, they changed. Yeah, but still not hilarious Psy or Aaron. So I need more hilarity. So let's see who we've got here. One lady is named Nicole Daisy. Toye, Martha Stewart's makeup artist.

[Ben]

I, I appreciate the link to Martha Stewart. I don't feel like makeup artist is, I don't feel like makeup artists is where we should go for a Real Housewife.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, like we need Martha Stewart. We don't need Martha Stewart.

[Ben]

Exactly. I mean, what don't we want to be aspirational? Now, of course there's like makeup artists that are like the top of their career and they are like, very esteemed and they are artists and they are like really wonderful at what they do. And, and by the way, almost to a T, every single makeup artist I've ever met in my entire life has always been absolutely batshit crazy, oftentimes in a great way, in a great hilarious way. But I think that these shows are about the people who employ the makeup artists, not necessarily the makeup artists.

[Ronnie]

Well, wait, you're gonna get another one because now we have June Ambrose, who is a celebrity stylist. Okay, that's just a whole different show. You know what I mean? Put June and Nicole on a different show where stylists are going out and fighting with each other and like fighting over clients and stuff like that.

[Ben]

I feel like I've heard of June Ambrose before. I don't know where I've heard of her before. I'm sure someone's going to weigh in.

[Ronnie]

Well, her pict like this, she's like looking up, which I like.

[Ben]

I like that. Carrie. Shoot. I don't, I, I, I just came in. I, I missed the, the context of this. But Carrie in the comments says Carol is garbage. So a perfect housewife. Great. I'm always good for anyone. Garbage. Yeah. June Amers.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I don't know Stylists. My concern with a stylist is that like we just sort of had two seasons of people coming from that world and it was not great.

[Ronnie]

So Brianna is saying now June has been in the game for over 30 years.

[Ben]

Right? She's famous. Right. She's, she's known. Right.

[Ronnie]

And a lot of this is to, not a lot of this. We, I mean, we don't know. We see just like a little, they're literally, literally teeny tiny pictures with their names and what they do. So this is all blind. We don't, we don't have any idea if these people would be good or not. Because when I first saw Ramona Singer on tv, I said absolutely not. And I would not watch that show because she looked insane. She was like, well, just like kind of cross eyed. Like, look, I just, and just her attitude and I thought, no, how. Why would they cast this person? Which, of course, once I did start watching it, completely understood how they cast her. But, you know, you never really know until you see somebody in their element if they're going to be good or not. So the next one, by the way.

[Ben]

I just want to say people in the comments are really like, they're saying that June is really. She's sort of like an icon. She's been in the game for a long time. And people seem to be actually quite excited at the idea of June being a real housewife. So I'm actually going to trust our listeners on this because I know our list, like, we're all kind of on the same page. And if our listeners are saying she's been around for a while and if she was on the show, like, that would be a get. I. I trust that. Okay. Like, I believe that. Just how like we always said that, like on Beverly Hills, like, why do they not have Nicolette Sheridan, right? Like, where's Nicolette Sheridan? I kind of feel like it sort of seems like maybe we're getting some of that energy here with June Ambrose.

[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

So the next one up is Erica Fay Jones, who's a real estate developer. And it's interesting that she has Faye in her name because she has Faye Resmick face. And here, you know what, I'm going to share this so we can show people these who we're talking about. Why not window share the window share the ladies. Let's bring the ladies up, shall we? Okay, so Erica Faye is right here. I'm getting Fay face, aren't you? And her name is Erica Fay.

[Ben]

Yeah. And on top of that, actually I'm looking at some other pictures on Google Images and she sort of has like an Eva Longoria meets Lindsay from Summer House face to which I think is like a great sign. That's a great. That's a great combo, Eric. One photo.

[Ronnie]

What's her name? Jones. Okay, let's see. Let's go to Google Images. Let's see. Yeah, this is the picture they used, which is kind of Faye face, right? Oh, my God. Oh, that's Charlie Kirk's wife. Is that what that is? Erica Fay Jones, divorce. Who is that? I'm getting all my faces mixed up. Like they got Charlie Kirk's wife to be on New York. Let's start spreading the rumors. Isn't that who this is?

[Ben]

Yeah, it looks like it might be. It might be.

[Ronnie]

I think that is her, right?

[Ben]

I think it probably is.

[Ronnie]

Oh, Google Images is trolling us. Okay, so that's her. So I don't know. She's a real estate developer. What do I know? Okay, so then we get Junior.

[Ben]

By the way, Junior in the comments says that Martha's makeup artist has her own company and is really rich.

[Ronnie]

Okay, they need to say that. Like, make a description. Yeah, say like rich crazy lady with a makeup company. That's how you sell it, you know. Tell me it's just someone's makeup artist. That's a.

[Ben]

That's a different makeup entrepreneur. Like Chanel Ion.

[Ronnie]

Come on. Speaking of, somebody in the comments also said Chanel said she was going to be moving to New York while her son went to school. So come on, people, pay attention.

[Ben]

I think we need to, like, with Real Housewives of Dubai, they just really need to take that cast. It's like, it should be like a corporate reorg. Just, like, put everyone, just put them and just scatter them into different shows. But Caroline Brooks here, put Chanel there, put Caroline Stanbury somewhere else. Like, just. There is raw talent on that show. Let's not lose it. Okay?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Okay. Who do we have next here? I'm looking at a different window. You go next. Do you still have it up?

[Ben]

Okay. Yes. Chanel Jones. Chanel. Chanel Jones Cheyennel.

[Ronnie]

She's a Today show host. So I like that because she can always be like, oh, hi, ladies. How are we doing?

[Ben]

Oh, I know.

[Ronnie]

I love Today show hosts. Like Hoda. I mean, wasn't Hoda. Wasn't Hoda. Not Hoda. Sorry, Hoda.

[Ben]

I had a Hoda.

[Ronnie]

Today's show.

[Ben]

Hoda Kotbi, third hour.

[Ronnie]

I liked her when she was always like, hey, how's everybody doing today? We're going over a new kind of coffee that I can't live without. I can't live without it. I love coffee. I like that. Constantly laughing, on the verge of maniacal, you know, Shakes kind of a person.

[Ben]

Yeah, I, I think if you're gonna do like a TV host, it, like, you have to, like, it's a double edged sword because either they're like, very fake and they're not gonna really give you their true self because they have a broadcasting career they care about, or like, you want someone like Stacy from Potomac who maybe is like out of a job or moved to this to get like a higher job and has like that fake thing, but you can see there's like chicanery, like underneath the surface that comes out in a really fun way. Like, so I think that, yeah, like.

[Ronnie]

Her gardener or something, you know, like, I think that there's something under that maniacal, like, happiness. There's always something like she pinches babies or something, you know, so I'm the same as you. I'm rooting for it.

[Ben]

Erica Faye Jones is Giselle's Bryant's best friend and business partner. Says Michael Horn, who is, by the way, Michael Horn has a podcast. You all should listen to it. I think we did know that. But didn't Erica show up on some Potomac episodes? Now that, now that Michael says it, yeah.

[Ronnie]

I didn't know.

[Ben]

I feel like she showed up and I think she did.

[Ronnie]

I think that's a plus. Right? Okay, so now we have Sarah Wettenhall Owner of the Colony, Palm beach and Hedges, East Hampton.

[Ben]

Oh, put her in.

[Ronnie]

She's gonna be awful.

[Ben]

She's a. Yes, she's gonna be awful.

[Ronnie]

She sounds terrible. Let's do it. Bring her terrible.

[Ben]

She is capitalizing off of super wealthy people, and she probably has certain ideas of, like, what's right and what's wrong. And she's probably asked backwards. Get her in there right away.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So this is nine people, including Jenna. So we'll see how this pans out. But you know what? You guys keep on cooking in that kitchen, and I. I can't wait to see what you bring out.

[Ben]

And I would say this.

[Ronnie]

Share this.

[Ben]

I'm gonna say that Jenna. I think that she should be a friend of. I think I had high hopes for Jenna because I loved her show. Whatever. I'm blanking what it was called. But the show that she had on hbo, Max before this, I thought she was quirky and fun and fabulous, and that did not translate onto Housewives. So I appreciate that. Appreciate that Jenna is original and she's like a different type of housewife, and I like that. I do like that she's very successful and wealthy and. But I think that, like, maybe she might need, like, a friend of season and then we can reevaluate to see if she can come back to, like, full fledged housewife.

[Ronnie]

But I love her.

[Ben]

I just don't know if she's. I don't know if she was quite compelling enough to be housewife.

[Ronnie]

Well, there are other rumors swirling about Real Housewives of New Jersey casting. There have been rumors that Teresa is not being asked back because she's refusing to film with Melissa still. So basically, in one. In one interview, she says, I'm not desperate for that job. I'll be fine. Blink, blink, blink, blink, blink. And then another, she. Because then people were like, oh, my God, Teresa's really not coming back. And then so in another interview, she was like, well, you know, my door is, like, cracked. Like, you know, like, I'm kind of open to it. You know, like, I could maybe like, making it make up with her. But, like, I. We'll see how it goes. So she's kind of backpedaling on that. And someone said, hey, Teresa, is it true you're not coming back to Real Housewives of New Jersey? And she was like, whatever. I'm the og.

[Ben]

I cannot tell. I really cannot tell what the situation is with Teresa. I. I keep on saying that Bravo is never going to drop Teresa, but people are saying, like. Like, Louie is like, too Much of a liability. I really don't know how it's going to shake out.

[Ronnie]

Well, we still don't know what's going on with Jersey, but apparently they've got a lot of headlines coming out. So I think that it's. Something's going on over there because the publicity machine is back on.

[Ben]

It's gearing up.

[Ronnie]

Recently, Jen Fessler and Jackie Goldschneider were. They were at the Page Six virtual reality after party for their award show that they had. And Jen's like, well, it's me, Jen Fessler, here with Jackie Gold tonight. We're just having a blast at this party. What a great night. And Jackie's like, you know, where our friendship went wrong was when you cared only about the famous people in the room and you didn't value our friendship. And it's just a long silence because they're just, like, recording some random thing at a party. Yeah, where the fuck did that? And Jackie's like, audibly wasted. Like, you can hear her. She's like, yeah, you don't appreciate me like you appreciate everybody else. And that hurts me, Jen Fessler. And Jen's like, oh, well, I didn't realize you felt that way. I slept with Tony Soprano. I don't know if you've heard. Yeah, well, it hurt me, man. All you care about is fame. And she's like, well, I'm sorry that you feel like that. Maybe we could talk about that at a different time. Well, you know, it's just very hurtful because I invested so much into our friendship. You don't even care about me. You only care about famous people. You're always looking towards the door to see who's coming in. You don't care about me. Who is me? What about Jackie?

[Ben]

I mean, I really like Jackie, but this is very rich coming from the person who, like, dropped Margaret to go hang out with Teresa. Like, I don't know. Like, it's. I'm like, you know, Jackie, your reputation on this front has not been stellar. I have to. I have to say.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. But the audio is pretty amazing. You should listen to it. I'm thinking of making it like an extended ringtone. Cause it was just so awkward. And Jen Fessler is just trying to have fun. And they're at this fun awards show and Jackie was just not having it.

[Ben]

This is. This is when they were recording a pod. She was drunk during their podcast.

[Ronnie]

No, no, it was an after party for their award show because they just had their Award show. Yeah.

[Ben]

Oh, it was caught on audio. I thought this was like their podcast that she said that.

[Ronnie]

No, I think they're doing like a live. Like an Instagram live or something from the after party. And this is when she chose to bring this up. And she's like, you know, we're on live right now. Yeah. And that's what I'm seeing. You do respect our friendship. I invested so much into this friendship.

[Ben]

You know, Jennifer in the comments says, ben, you really like Jackie. She's shown who she really is and she sucks. No, I agree. I think that Jackie has fully. She fully fell on her. Her face this last season. And I don't like. I don't like how she treated Margaret and I think also like her role in that stupid scandal. I don't even remember exactly what it was at this point anymore. That she was the one who talked to the woman instead was really, really bad. I still, I always liked her as a real housewife. I just, I think she lost her way. And so I, I would like her to have a season where she, like a. A redemption season, but she ended on a sucky note. So, like, if people say, like, oh, Jackie sucks, like, I wouldn't be like, no, she's the best. I'd be like, well, she had a sucky last season. And you know what? That's what happens. You have a sucky last if, if you, if you suck in your season, you never know if you're gonna get another season to redeem yourself. And so that's got to be awesome.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. But, you know, just the awkward silences, just the making it awkward and the amount of awkward silences in that recording, I was like, okay, well, you know, I wouldn't mind if we revisited Jackie because that shit's funny. I was cracking up and just hearing Jen Fessler again, because he's still so Jen Festler, he made me excited for Jersey.

[Ben]

Yeah. I mean, this is good. We're building up a. A Jersey. A Jersey desire. But I wonder if, like, I wonder if Rhode island is going to just like, steal all that thunder because, like, really the talk has been about Rhode island and what they just finished filming Ray, and so now they're getting ready for their. Like, that's gonna be. I feel like all the attention is going to be there. I wonder if there's gonna be any Rhode island cast reveals or anything that's gonna happen at BravoCon. What do you think?

[Ronnie]

Probably. Yeah. It seems like they're holding a lot for BravoCon, right?

[Ben]

Yeah. I feel like there's gonna be some. Like, maybe they'll, like, introduce the casts, even if they're not ready to show us any footage. But I would be. I feel like they'll have some footage or maybe, like, a sizzle. Not a sizzle, but like a teaser, if not a full trailer for bravocon. And I. I think we're gonna get that, and I think we're gonna get a Vanderpump rules teaser. And maybe even the ladies of London. I think we get everything at Bravo Con of everything.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God. Ladies of London. Yes. I hope they. I hope they don't fumble. Ladies of London. I'm so excited.

[Ben]

I know all the teasers are coming out. I mean, like, we also had the summer house teaser. Speaking of summer house, there was, like, the tiniest little teaser that dropped a few days ago that was basically giving us what we've always dreamed of, which is a spin off that of what happens in the city in between the weekends. And I cannot tell you. I am so excited for this. I am so, so excited. Like, this is what I've wanted for, like, nine years.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's gonna be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, of course. I mean, it depends on which way they go. We didn't see anything. They didn't show us anything. Except that we're gonna have a city spin off. So I don't know who's gonna be in that. So I don't know. I'm reserved. But, yeah, I'm excited at this point. Bravo's got me to the point where I'm just so excited to see anything. You know what I mean?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I'm like, come on, give me something here. Like, what am I doing tonight? Nothing. Okay. I mean, this. But, you know, after this, I'm like, I'm watching baking show. Come on, man, give me something. Bravo.

[Ben]

Ronnie, your lighting's looking really good all of a sudden. It was good all the entire time. But you have this nice, like, oh.

[Ronnie]

It'S getting dark outside. That's why.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's getting dark. So you're looking very highlighted and.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, thank you. Thank you, son, for going down. You're really working with my cheekbones. Ronnie. Ben. Ronnie, how was the Jeff Lewis party? I heard it was a mess with Kelly Todd and her husband there. I'll just say husband. Yeah, there was some drama at that Jeff Lewis party. You know what? Look, I'm a very liberal person. They're very conservative people, and Kelly and I both have very extreme tempers, and we have fought many a time, actually. We argue Almost every time we see each other, and this was no exception. But we. But that said, we also laugh together quite a bit, but we don't agree on anything. And so we got into kind of a screaming match in the middle of this hotel lobby, me and the couple, and it went on and on. I just couldn't believe some of the stuff I was hearing we've made up for. I'm not going to get into it because it's politics, and we don't really talk about that on this show because it's. Especially right now. It's really inflaming everybody. Obviously, it inflamed me. I lost my shit, basically, is what happened. And I woke up feeling like I should have been more embarrassed than I was, but I wasn't really. But it was ugly. It ended well. We decided to agree to disagree, and that's pretty much how that ended. But, yeah, I don't know how I expected to go to a Jeff Lewis thing and for there not to be drama, but I didn't necessarily expect that it was going to be with me. But listen, one thing I love is screaming in arguments with people that I disagree with. So I had a good night, ultimately. But I think everything I had to say, I said to their face, and I think they did, too. And we ended it as well as. You know, we ended it well. We agreed to disagree.

[Ben]

You know, you guys were, like, having this whole political argument. I was like, oh, my God, are we really doing this right here? You guys. You guys were, like, fighting, and then all of a sudden, three seconds later, you guys were, like, clutching each other, like, like, oh, my God, I love you. It was like, literally knowing those Real Housewives episodes when, like, people go from, like. Like on Miami, when they're like. Like when Stephanie and Alexi are, like, fighting, the next thing you know, it's like, I love you. It's like, that's what you got. I was like, I can't. You guys are.

[Ronnie]

But it was.

[Ben]

It was. You guys were having a political argument, but it was not as. It wasn't very deep in terms of, like.

[Ronnie]

Well, it wasn't that deep. I mean, look, you've. Everybody's been having the same arguments all over the country. I don't think anything either one of us said was groundbreaking or knew it was basically liberal talking points versus conservative talk. I just. Was so. I just got so pissed because, you know, Kelly is not some wilting flower. I mean, Kelly, when she argues, it's like, dude, you're wrong. Communism. You know, she's That's. That was. That. And so then, of course, I start matching that. And then before you know it, we're not even taking it that seriously. But at one point, you know, everybody's sitting there just like this, you know, looking at us, and I was like, oh, okay, well, I guess we should wrap this up. So basically I was like, look, you know, Kelly, I've never agreed with you. We have a long history of disagreeing and getting in fights, but we always find a way to make up and still laugh together when we're in the same place. And, you know, it's ridiculous to. To. In this country, we're on such different pages right now. We do have to be able to communicate with each other. Even when you don't agree, it's important to tell people when you think their ideas are stupid and not just let them pass by, because there are some times I cannot just. Just be quiet. But it's also important to kind of listen, I guess, and then have the conversation because, I mean, what else are we going to do? We're just all going to be beating each other up in the street soon. So, yeah, that was that. So, yeah, that. That happened. But it ended. It ended okay.

[Ben]

Yeah, it was quite. It was. It was. It was funny. It was funny. And the worst part was that I wanted to go home because I was like, I hadn't had dinner yet, and I wanted to go home and, like, just, like, watch shows for the podcast. But then I was like, if I leave now, then it seems like I'm running away from this thing. I was like, I don't. I'm not running away. I'm not uncomfortable. I'm not awkward. I just want to go home. And it's like, you know what? You know, when you're, like, ready to just, like, you're like, you're ready to start saying your buys at a party and then something happens and then you, like, you can't. And I was having a really fun time at the party, but, like, you know, like, it was just one of those things, like, now I've got to sit here and they're having it. Like, the last thing I want to do is sit here during a political argument in the middle of this hotel. But it was.

[Ronnie]

Well, it had been a long week of just reading stuff and reading in the news and reading all these. These idiotic things being said, and I just. People were just sitting there letting it happen, and I was like, hell, no. Like, I just started getting so pissed, and I'm pretty. I'VE gotten pretty good as I've gotten older about keeping my temper in check, but good Lord, it left me that day. And at one point, I was just like, it. You know, like, if I'm never again, I don't care.

[Ben]

The best part. The best part was at one point, Ronnie leaned back in his chair and he crossed his legs and he cupped his hands around his knee, and he goes, I'm sitting back. I'm sitting back. I'm not interrupting. I'm sitting back.

[Ronnie]

Oh, yeah, let me talk. Let me talk. I'm like. They're screaming, and they're like, no, you have to let the other side talk too. And I was like, okay, fine. So I sat back and crossed my legs and said, fine, talk. Like, let me talk. Let me talk. I said, I'm sitting back and crossing my leg. It's like, that is letting you talk. Talk. Let me talk. I said, but you are talking. No, but let me talk. I said, you are talking.

[Ben]

It was. It was a sight to behold, everyone. And I'm so glad it was. It was like, it's. I'm so glad it's over. But, yeah, you guys. But like, yeah, it was. I don't know if. I don't know.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Someone says they were talking about it. You should ignore it. You know, they said you should just ignore stuff like that. I know, and normally I'm okay with ignoring it, but sometimes I just can't ignore it. Sometimes you need. You need a solid. Fuck you. And I think they got one in, and I got one in. And then we ended it. It ended fine. And someone said, what did Jeff do? Jeff sat there like this. I was sitting. Okay, first of all, this was the setup. I'm. I'm sitting next to Jeff. Okay. We're in these two easy chairs or whatever. So Jeff is there. Jeff is like this. Because, you know, Jeff loves that shit. Jeff. Jeff loves that. Lakendra's on my lap. Like, Lakendra's literally standing on my lap. And Ben was sitting on the other side of my lap. We were all three sharing a chair.

[Ben]

Like, Kendra, Ron and I were sitting on a chair together, and I was trying to talk to Kristin Takeman and Kristen Takeman, too.

[Ronnie]

It's across from us. Yeah.

[Ben]

I was trying to talk to Kristen Takeman, and these two were having their political argument under me. At one point, I was standing. I was like, okay, I'm gonna go. And then. And then. And then I was trying to talk to Kristen Takeman, and they were screaming at each other under me while Standing there, and I was like. I was like, okay, I can't have this guy. I was like, I can't. There's like, they're. But they were screaming. But then they were. Then you guys were, like, hugging at the same time. It was so crazy. It was hilarious. It was.

[Ronnie]

Well, the hugging happened way after that. But you know what?

[Ben]

No, no, but there was. There was a moment where you guys, like, clasped like, you were, like. Had, like, a joyous moment, and then you got.

[Ronnie]

Well, because it was intense. I mean, when I'm telling you where. We were screaming at each other. We were screaming at each other. It wasn't just like, you're. You're in correct on this, and I don't really agree with you. It was like, on both of our part, we were going crazy. And so it was just intense. And I think after, it was like, oh, my God, what did we just do? Because you see everyone's face around. Everyone's, like, horrified. So, yeah, whatever. So that happened. But all in all, I mean, it was still. It was still a fun night, you know, no hard feelings or whatever. So. And anything I have to say about the politics of it or whatever we argued about, I'll say to their face, and I'm sure they'll say it to mine, too, so no worries. But anyway, that was that. I don't want to take any more time. My only regret was, oh, my God, I hope that I didn't upset Ben, because, you know, that's like being married to a crazy person. You're stuck with somebody at a party, and something that, like, that happens. And that was our first time at one of those parties, too. We've never gone to one of those. So I was like, oh, God, poor Ben, you know?

[Ben]

But, yeah, I was like, I just. I just want to go home and have dinner. That's all I want to do. And now I'm like. I'm like, do I have to stay here to have to, like, have her on his back? Which, of course, I. I was supposed to have your back. I don't think I did anything that would indicate.

[Ronnie]

That's all. That's all. You don't have. You know, it's not like I was being personally attacked or anything like that. It was nothing like that. So, anyway, that was that. All right, back to the headlines, my little friends.

[Ben]

All right, well, let's talk about. I just saw this headline right here. Paige desorbo discusses real reason she quit Summer House, realizing she hated her boyfriend while filming a reality TV brainwashing. Wow. So, by the way, I just saw this headline while we were looking at the other article. I saw it on the side. I was like, well, I've got to click on this because I want to know what this is, what this is. So where I'm gonna, like, read this on the fly with everyone here. Paige desorbo addressed her decision to leave Summerhouse. She hinted at reality TV's brainwashing. The star also alluded to an ex boyfriend who acted like a principal. I wonder who that could be. Last year, Paige broke up with Southern Trump's Craig Conover, who said he was. He was blindsided. And so she said, I just had this overwhelming sense that I couldn't go back. I know I would have been doing a disservice to the show. They expect a certain level of showing up, and I just couldn't give them that. And I definitely had to get over the feeling that my. My career would be over. The element thinking that, like, you need that show in that network. And Hannah reminded me that they're not in charge of your career. And being on reality tv, there's a level of. This is like a harsh word, but, like, brainwashing, sort of like whoever brainwashed Lindsay that whatever she's wearing is actually stylish, that kind of thing. So, yeah. And so she. Then she says, I had a. I had a boyfriend once, and he worked with one of his friends, and he was very adamant to me about how it's, like, not easy working with your friend. And he would always be like, it's a clear boundary. Like, once a week, you have a phone call where it's just like, the two of you just like, talk about work stuff. And I was like, what are you, our principal? 1,000%.

[Ronnie]

What are you the principal?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

[Ben]

I don't think it says what the real reason is that she left the show.

[Ronnie]

She left the show because she didn't need it. I mean, you got. You got really big and rich. Like, why. Why am I going back on Summer House? I don't need that. And she didn't want to give up summers anymore from. From what I'm reading from this. But, yeah, so. So Paige quit.

[Ben]

Yeah. I wouldn't want to give up my summer anymore either. I mean, I think, like. I mean, I love Paige on Summer House. I don't know what Summer House is going to be like without her. But quite frankly, if you have now reached the level where Paige is selling out Radio City Music hall, like, two or three times, In a row in one week. And like doing all these fashion things, covering the Oscars for Vanity Fair, and like being in all these magazines and going on late night tv and then you have to spend your entire summer in a house with Kyle and Jesse Solomon. Of all, like, of people like that. Like, no, thank you, Lexi Wood. She had to spend those summer with Lexi Wood. Like, get her out of that house. Let her do famous things. She did it. She worked hard. She made it to a new tier of fame. Let her go to cool parties and spend time where she deserves, which is a quiet beach house where she can sit back and drink a lemonade at 3pm and a gin and tonic after that and watch Love island and just be a happy person in a quiet house.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you go live it, Paige. You go live now. I'm not sure what to expect from summer house either. Although I did see a clip of Jesse walking through the street singing, like, he made like a music video for himself. And I couldn't bring myself to press play on that because I can't listen to Jesse. I'm sorry. Like, you know, there are some. There are some things that I have a red line about and that's it. And I would not cross it. I would not click on the little volume button. But I did watch a whole video of him walking through the street singing. And it was this that big stupid face. And so I know we have that to look forward to. A big stupid face. That's all I know. The rest of it, I'm just gonna wait until it's upon us.

[Ben]

Well, unfortunately, there's billboards with Lexi Wood all over my neighborhood here. And so I feel like I could just never get away from her. I feel like she's left the show, but she hasn't left my life. I just see them and it's like.

[Ronnie]

Hang out with me and my family. Okay, so something that's looking promising is Real Housewives of Atlanta casting singer K. Michelle fires back at Gisele Bryant and Robin Duncan Nixon for questioning her role on Atlanta. And blast Robin as a couch potato.

[Ben]

Why is it funny? I heard that there was like. I saw there was a. I saw there was a lot of K. Michelle stuff going around. And in my mind, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna circle back to this one. It's closer to crappy hour. And then I actually never circled around to it. But yeah, great.

[Ronnie]

So on. So Robin said Atlanta Bravo shows are running out of people. In response to K. Michelle joining Real Housewives of Atlanta, and angel love joining Married to Medicine. Allegedly they're using people from other networks now. So K. Michelle responded and said, why be so worried about me and my overly educated and successful self and what I might be doing? Robin, you ran out of a job a long time ago. You would love to be recycled, you little couch potatoes just yapping.

[Ben]

To be fair, she was recycled onto the traders.

[Ronnie]

You should have rammed through that hotel lobby where your husband was lady. And Giselle, you look beautiful. Leave me alone and y' all go lodl. Oh, and let me go yodel in peace. I'm around here selling out shows and you're selling baseball hats, but you're worried about me and what I might be doing. The nerve of this couch potato.

[Ben]

Wow. I love her. I love K. Michelle. Wow. That's also like, we have a new hero. There's so listen, a lot of people have been called couch potatoes and couch potato is not even really like such a. I don't know, like, weaponizing couch potato in that way against Robin is just somehow oddly so perfect that I kind of love it.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Ben]

The let me go yodel in peace is also hilarious. I love that she said, let me go yodel in peace because how many times have I said that? How many times has Paige desorbo said that? No wonder why she's going on that show anymore.

[Ronnie]

That shit's hilarious. So, I mean, that show's not going to be coming back for a while, I don't think. But God damn, I know that I have a new hero when it does come back. So welcome K. Michelle. Can't wait to see what you bring.

[Ben]

Yeah, great work. Great work. K. Michelle, that was. You're really. You're really getting me excited right now.

[Ronnie]

In other Atlanta news, Kenya did a video and her hair salon, which I think was foreclosed on this week. There were court documents being. Or court papers being passed around that she has been foreclosed on and her salon is officially closed. I don't have them in front of me, but that's what I read. And she is still doing her confessionals in her salon. And people were like, oh my God, is that a rat? Because you see something walking behind her at one point like, oh my God, Kenya has a rat in her salon while she's trying to shade Karen Huger. And I think it was just her Yorkie, like one of her little Yorkies. That's amazing. But the fact that people were saying, oh, she has a rat in her salon was just such funny karma for Kenya. Cuz Kenya was Being really mean. I mean, Karen Huger obviously just got out of jail, and Kenya was like, oh, Karen, you got out of jail? So were you the top or the bottom? Yeah. Like, were you the top bunk or the bottom bunk, Karen? I mean, just, you know, Kenya being. Yeah, Kenya.

[Ben]

Yeah. But by the way, I'm looking at the video, and I. I don't. It's definitely a dog. It's not a rat. But it's just funny to think about. It's like dumping a dog.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I don't think it was a rat either. I could tell that it was a dog. It's just. It was just funny that Kenya's karma was all that people took from that video as well. Kenya still sucks. She's got rats in her salon, and now her salon is foreclosed. So, you know, karma's karma is a quick worker.

[Ben]

Speaking of jail time, a quote that's been going around is that Andy Cohen has been saying he never wants. Wants to see Jen Shaw again. Do we think that will ever. That. Do we think that statement is at odds with her actually coming back onto the show? Because I still think Bravo's gonna bring her back.

[Ronnie]

They're gonna bring her back. I don't believe for one second that they're not gonna bring Jen Shaw back. I just don't believe it. I mean, you can't convince me of it. They're gonna bring her back. She's gonna worm her way back in there somehow. But maybe. I mean, maybe not.

[Ben]

But, I mean, I don't think the show doesn't need her. But I think that, like, I would not be surprised if they do it just to get under Heather. Heather Gay's skin. You know, I don't think.

[Ronnie]

I don't want her back. I don't want Jen Shaw back.

[Ben]

I don't think anyone wants her back.

[Ronnie]

But, no, I think that. I think that they would see it as a big ratings boost to have the girl who just went to prison come back. You know, it'll be like Whitney Rose.

[Ben]

Who'S gonna shoot a scene with her. It's gonna be like, yeah, I met with her. Yeah, because she put in the time. Can't you put in the time? Can she be better for, like, the things that you do? So you never listen to me, Lisa. Because I think everyone deserves a shot the way you don't give me a shot, Lisa. I gave her the time. Yeah. You know, it's gonna be one of.

[Ronnie]

Those, what did you go to jail for sucking dick?

[Ben]

You exploited my vagina. And I'LL just end on that note. It'll just be like. It'll go black.

[Ronnie]

Oh, hey. It's time to talk to the audience. What the heck? Time is flowing today, Ben.

[Ben]

Time has flown. So we're gonna go talk to the audience. This will be the end of the audio portion. And just as a reminder, this episode of watch what Crappens is brought to you by Virgin Voyages. Thank you so much, virgin, for sponsoring thank you so much, happy hour Virgin.

[Ronnie]

Thank you so much, Virgin so much. Thank you so, so much. Yeah. To everyone on audio, thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you in a couple of weeks. Bye. Bye.

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