#3023 RHOM S7E18: Sleeping with the Enemy

Summary

Watch What Crappens — Episode #3023: RHOM S7E18: "Sleeping with the Enemy"

Date: October 4, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Main Topic: Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM) Season 7 Reunion, Part 1

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Overview

This episode dives into the first installment of the RHOM Season 7 reunion. Ben and Ronnie deliver their trademark blend of sharp wit, Bravo-nerd analysis, and snark as they break down the explosive group dynamics, key confrontations, and that bombshell revelation among the Housewives. Key topics include: the infamous water-tossing incident, the fallout between Gertie and Julia, Alexia’s breakup, accusations of racism, and the jaw-dropping end-of-episode confession.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Anticipating the Bombshell(s) ([02:25])

• Ben and Ronnie speculate over what the big reunion revelation ("bombshell") would be. Initially, they think it’s between Adriana and Julia, joking about a small “Gwyneth’s head in a box.”
• Ben: “I wasn’t expecting this as the bombshell...”
• Ronnie: “That's a good one. Good for you, Julia.”

2. Reunion Set-Up and Cast Arrivals ([03:20–07:50])

• Clips of the Housewives prepping; humorous chatter about priorities, e.g. Larsa:
  “I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, and my boyfriend. Not in first grade.” ([03:48])
  • Ben immediately wants that line immortalized on a poster.
• Lisa’s punctuality shocks everyone; Adriana brings her emotional support dog, Basquiat, sparking debate on her actual music single: "I Love My Dog".

3. Emotional Toll and Backstage Vulnerabilities ([04:40–05:49])

• Julia is emotional, feeling the audience has turned on her:
  “It’s just the last month… really hard for me and for my family.”
  • The hosts note the harsh commentary Julia receives online and predict a mood swing.

4. Shots, Tequila, and Initial Jokes ([08:32–10:12])

• The reunion starts on a rooftop bar set with tequila shots, establishing the Miami party energy.
  • Ronnie: “This is the only reunion where we begin with the tequila shot, which is funny.”

5. Revisiting the Water Toss and Its Aftermath ([20:06–30:46])

• Main Issue: The cast’s contrasting reactions to Gertie having water thrown on her by Julia at a public event.
  • Gertie and fans felt other women minimized the (racist, humiliating) undertone, while more trivial altercations got bigger reactions.
• Larsa attempts an excuse:
  “Sometimes, like, we're like, what happened? … It wasn't rehearsed or something. So, like, it's okay because she didn't rehearse it.” ([21:33])
• The hosts note hypocrisy: everyone ignores violence until it happens to them.
• Ronnie: “It just felt… icky.”
• Ben: “It was humiliating in a way other moments weren't.” ([28:11])
• New unseen footage shows there was some reprimand of Julia, but the initial edit made it seem like the group didn’t react at all ([29:21]).

6. Online Fallout, Accusations, and Social Media Dynamics ([24:38–32:03])

• Kiki describes being accused of racism for her lack of visible support.
• Andy reads Gertie's comments:
  “I’m being pulled physically when I haven't done anything. But you want to make it seem like I'm being held back because I’m about to swing like an angry black woman.”
• Ben and Ronnie debate whether the other women’s requests for Gertie to "shut down" online attacks are fair—both agree the real issue is the audience calling out hypocrisy, not Gertie herself.
• Gertie insists: “They came to perform. I came to inform. They thought chaos was power. Well, I just let Lego do the heavy lifting. #Gertie” ([31:13])

7. Apologies, Non-Apologies, and Resolution Fatigue ([35:30–47:40])

• Julia repeatedly apologizes (at least “nine times” by her count) but notes every apology, which Ben says “drains the sincerity.”
• Gertie wants more than blanket apologies—specific accountability for the cruise incident and being painted as a hang-on.
• Ben: “If you sincerely want to apologize and move on, you’re not going to throw it in the other person’s face how many times you’ve apologized.”

8. Alexia’s Breakup and Narcissism Party ([13:48–18:46])

• Alexia confirms her split from Todd:
  • “We're no longer together, Andy. And zero contact. I haven’t seen, I haven’t spoken to him. I blocked him from my social media.”
• Discussion of Todd’s online jabs and Alexia’s new sense of power post-breakup.

9. Stephanie’s Wealth, "Bossiness," and Family Strife ([51:12–56:09])

• Stephanie gets grilled for flaunting her money and being too blunt.
  • Stephanie: “When a football player wins the Super Bowl, they wear a Super Bowl ring... I’ve won the old man balls Super Bowl.”
• Admits she wants her estranged family to see that she's “an asshole to everyone,” not just them.

10. Godparents, Friendship Fractures, and Adriana vs. Julia ([60:31–63:08])

• Julia reveals she never considered Adriana as godmother for her sons, despite Adriana’s support during the adoption process. Adriana expresses hurt, listing all the ways she’s supported Julia.
• The hosts joke: “I asked you to be the godmother of Bosky, my tiny, little horny dog.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Larsa: “I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, and my boyfriend.” ([03:48])
• Gertie: “They came to perform. I came to inform…” (#Gertie) ([31:13])
• Ben: “If you sincerely want to apologize and move on, you’re not going to throw it in the other person’s face how many times you’ve apologized.” ([45:00])
• Stephanie: (on family conflict) “No, you should get along with me because I’m terrible to so many people. That’s really important.” ([55:33])
• Ronnie: “It just felt… icky.” ([28:58])
• Julia: “We slept together. Get tuna. Tuna. You know what I’m saying?” (the episode’s bombshell) ([63:25])
• Ronnie: “You slept with somebody and then you just ghosted them. That’s not cool.” ([64:00])
• Ben (about Adriana and Julia): “Painting the narrative of Julia of trying to have a big reality TV moment and like getting cut out.” ([35:07])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:25] — Reunion bombshell anticipation
• [03:48] — Larsa’s “feet, children, boyfriend” phone photo quote
• [04:53] — Julia breaks down backstage, hate from viewers
• [08:32] — Tequila toast kicks off reunion
• [20:06] — Return to the “water toss” incident and group reactions
• [24:38] — Kiki and Gertie discuss online accusations and fallout
• [31:13] — Andy reads Gertie’s key “chaos vs. inform” social post
• [35:30] — Julia’s repeated apologies, sincerity debates
• [47:40] — Ben & Ronnie note Gertie’s “moving targets” and communication struggles
• [51:12] — Stephanie called out for her style and approach to relationships
• [60:31] — Julia and Adriana’s rift over godparenting
• [63:08–63:25] — Julia drops the bombshell: “Adriana and I slept together.”

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Bombshell of the Episode ([63:08–63:25])

In the final moments, Julia admits:
“Adriana and I slept together… Get tuna. Tuna. You know what I’m saying?”

• Ben, Ronnie, and the reunion set are shocked. Ronnie adds: “Doesn’t that make it worse on Julia’s part? Like, you slept with somebody and then you just ghosted them. That's not cool.”
• Teased for continuation in next week’s reunion.

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Tone & Episode Vibe

• Classic Watch What Crappens—snarky, breezy, inside-bravo banter with satirical impressions and sharp, off-the-cuff analysis. The hosts blend their love for Bravo with dry, biting observations, giving every side of the drama their comedic lens.
• Emotional moments get real, but the hosts always return to roasting everyone, especially when sincerity feels manufactured or when apologies seem performative.
• The episode balances humor (“I love my dog, I love my dog”) with thoughtful cultural critiques about group behavior, racism accusations, and reality TV’s impact on real relationships.

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Final Takeaways

• Much of the reunion’s conflict boils down to prior slights (real and perceived), messy communication, and the Housewives' inability to articulate or own nuances of their behavior.
• Gertie’s quest for meaningful apology and Julia’s struggle to give it are at the heart of the episode.
• The final Julia–Adriana reveal guarantees fireworks in next week’s follow-up.

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For RHOM fans and Bravo obsessives alike, this recap episode serves as both a hilarious play-by-play and a genuine commentary on the franchise’s never-ending drama, hypocrisy, and shade.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Michelle Collins]

Drop what you're doing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Go get Reese's now. Do not stay calm. Push people out of the way. What happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today is the hilarious and glorious Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie, how are you?

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, hello. How's it going?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's going really well. We're talking about the Miami reunion today, which was pretty amazing. Very excited to get into it. Monday, we've got crappy hour, so join us for that. That's gonna be 5:30 on the West Coast, 8:30 on the east coast. And also join us on Patreon. We did a, we did a recap of With Love Megan, which is on Netflix. So that's our bonus episode. You also have video content on there that's available for a week before it goes to YouTube. So you get that exclusive window. So we have a lot of fun on there. Excited for that. I want to give out. Can I give a shout out to our friend Michelle Collins? I forgot to mention this on the OC Recap, but I went to see her show Wednesday night. Her show. And I think it's called. Wait, why Don't I know you? That's. That's the name of her show. When I tell you it was the funniest thing ever. Like, I literally, like, I almost peed my pants. And that's not an exaggeration. I literally had a moment where I thought, wow, I'm getting old. Because I, I really had to like, be concerned. So I. That's just my way of saying if she's coming to your city, definitely go see her. It was so funny. We always have friends and so, like, go check, go check out Michelle's show. And it's also appropriate because she's from Miami, so there's a tie in to this. But yeah, I just wanted to give her a shout out about that.

[Ronnie Caram]

She is one of the funniest people on the planet. Yeah, she's hilarious, that lady. Right on, Michelle. Another tour. Nail it, baby. Nail it.

[Ben Mandelker]

But today we're talking about other funny women who are funny for different reasons, and that is this reunion. What did you think, Ronnie, about this first installment?

[Ronnie Caram]

I can't believe they gave us the bombshell. Do you think that was the bombshell, or is there another one?

[Ben Mandelker]

That was the bombshell that I. I guess it was such a good bombshell. That's going to have a repercussions throughout the rest of the. The rest of the. The reunion. But I was not expecting that as the.

[Ronnie Caram]

Because I didn't know what I was expecting. We've seen the preview that Adriana gives Julia a box, and she's like, I have a. I have a present for you. And so she opens it, and everyone's shocked. Like it's a tiny little Gwyneth's head in there or something. So I thought that was going to be the bombshell. So I don't know. Are there more bombshells coming?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I thought the bombshell was going to be, like, you know, Adriana, always my friend. But it turns out we're gonna get some, like, emails that were, like, threatening and abusive. Whatever. I thought it was gonna be like that, but I wasn't expecting this. So.

[Ronnie Caram]

That's a good one.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was a good one. Good for you, Julia.

[Ronnie Caram]

So we open with everybody coming to.

[Andy Cohen]

The reunion, getting their makeup did, as usual. Lisa's as cute as a cucumber. I'm at school as a cucumber. Because you know what I have on my side? The truth. The truth is on my side.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jody. You got Jody on your side.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm gonna. Jodi, you always got me. Listen, I can guarantee you this. I don't know what's going to happen today. My mouth's not gonna open.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lar says, like, I'm not really.

[Larsa Pippen]

Like, a receiver alike. I don't need to keep, like, things on my phone. Like, I keep beautiful photos of my feet and my children. My boyfriend not in first grade.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, I love that order of priorities.

[Ronnie Caram]

My feet, my children, and my boyfriend. I'm not in first grade. Yeah, mature people keep pictures of their feet on their phones. Lara.

[Ben Mandelker]

I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, and my boyfriend. That is, like, such an amazing quote. I hope that gets, like, put on to, like, a poster someday.

[Ronnie Caram]

So we see her boyfriend, Jeff Kobe. He's laughing on the couch. He just loves this. He's like, my feet, my children, my boyfriend.

[Andy Cohen]

Our man in for life, I tell you.

[Ronnie Caram]

So we go over to Stephanie's dressing room, and she's just being wacky. Like, Stephanie really corrected in the middle of the season. And now she's just going to be.

[Andy Cohen]

Like, fun and love everybody.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, guys, no joke. You have 11 minutes. Which, by the way, how many times does she say that to makeup people? Like, that's, like, the moment she loves. Guys, no joke. It's 11 minutes. You better hurry up. Then we go to Julia, and she's, like, already crying.

[Julia]

She's like, it's just the last month, a lot of comments. It was really hard for me and for my family.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we see all these quotes of people being like, julia needs to be deported back to Russia. Julia needs to be dragged, literally and figuratively. Oops. Julia's running the show 100% hated this bitch. So she's not doing so well emotionally with the fact that the audience has turned on her massively.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, she's like, I'm not the weak.

[Andy Cohen]

I'm so sensitive.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's, like, sobbing in her chair. And I felt for her for a minute, and then I remembered that she's gonna be awful in about five. So I was like, I'm gonna hold off on that. I'll hold off on my empathy or my sympathy for a while, babe. So then Adriana is checking on Gertie, and they're both ready for battle. And meanwhile, Julie is still sobbing.

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, I don't even have Martina with me. She's with the boys at home. I really wish she could be here for me to admit to America that I ch.

[Ronnie Caram]

I have to do this alone.

[Ben Mandelker]

Alexi and Marisol run in. Oh, bro. Okay. Come on, Jay. They give a big group hug, like, oh, no, it's. It's okay. We got you. We got you. We got you. Andy walks in and he's like, hey.

[Stephanie]

Hey, Cher. Oh, that's what I was going for.

[Ben Mandelker]

But with more dick.

[Stephanie]

Well, that's perfect. How you feeling about today?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, we have our little difference, but we'll get to it.

[Stephanie]

Wrong answer. You're supposed to say, we're gonna scream at each other, and I don't know how we get through it. Ok. All right. Set an intention.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay. Gonna say hi to Alexia now. Hi, Alexia. Hola K. I'm moving Andy to oh Me Amarillo, Itula, Ao.

[Stephanie]

Mama Tambien.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Stephanie comes out. Oh, this is a beautiful set. Oh, this is almost. This is almost as nice as show my bazaar. This is really nice. This is really, really nice. Do you guys have a. Do you guys have a, like, an espresso machine slash stage for Adriana's band? No. Okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she gets first chair, which I think is.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're right. I didn't even pay attention to that. She did get first.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, she got first chair. And so then, you know, everybody arrives and compliments each other, but Kiki doesn't like that. Stephanie'. She doesn't have her tits out. She's like, you need more tit. That's what you need. Next time, more tits out. So then Julia comes. You know, everybody comes out and says hi. But the big news is Lisa is on time, everybody. And they're shocked. And Adriana brings her damn dog on Basquiat, and she's like, it's my emotional support dog, Andy. I need Bosky here. I love him. I don't know if you've heard my new single, which is raging all over the charts. I love my dog, I love my.

[Ben Mandelker]

Dog I love my dog, I Love My dog.

[Ronnie Caram]

Literally released that as a song.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did she?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love my.

[Ronnie Caram]

Posted on. I posted a thing of Taylor Swift's new album coming out and put her face on it, and it's I Love My Dog.

[Andy Cohen]

And I'm like, yeah, it's a good album.

[Ronnie Caram]

Taylor's best album in years. And, yeah, that's from the professional recording of I Love My Dog.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I. But I didn't realize she like Lisa on, like, itunes. I thought it was just. It's fine. Well, I would expect nothing less from her. So then Bosky can't stay out there. It'll be too chaotic because we know that boss got gonna try to hump every leg. We saw the footage from earlier in the season when he went to his horse dog to have one last trip to paradise.

[Ronnie Caram]

That was good. That was my favorite scene of the season.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that was great, actually.

[Andy Cohen]

Hey, everybody. Welcome to o Miami Season 7 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, hoping to earn all the red flags for most likely to ask Shady questions tonight. Hola, sombreros.

[Stephanie]

Hola. Oh, Macarena. Okay, ladies, Tonight our location is inspired by one of Miami's many iconic and vibrant rooftop bars. And it would be a Miami reunion unless we kick things off with some tequila. God, I wonder why these readings are always so chaotic. Okay, everyone, drink up.

[Ronnie Caram]

He says this is the only reunion where we begin with the tequila shot, which is funny. So they. They take.

[Kiki]

Hey, Kiki. Don't, like, try to get, like, too late. Come on, like.

[Andy Cohen]

All right, Mary Soul, give us a toast.

[Ronnie Caram]

Cheers, everybody. Let's just have a good reunion.

[Andy Cohen]

All right?

[Ronnie Caram]

That's my cheers.

[Stephanie]

All right, Stephanie. If nautical staff was as cool as a cucumber, what can we expect from reunion. Steph, thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Andy, thank you for making a call back to, like, my viral joke that it, like, broke the Internet. Like, nautical staff is so funny. Hashtag nautical staff. I'm just gonna be trying to be cool as cucumber, too, but, you know, like, I'm. I'm still gonna, like, voice my opinion, like, all right.

[Stephanie]

And Larsa, you brought a special guest today. Is it a framed photo of your feet?

[Kiki]

No, like, I feel like I brought my, like, boyfriend. Like, because, like, I feel like. Like, everybody's like, I feel like met him, like, so. But, like, he's here.

[Stephanie]

Like, how long has it been?

[Larsa Pippen]

I think, like, eight months.

[Stephanie]

No, since you guys last broke up.

[Larsa Pippen]

Oh, probably like, two days ago, but, yeah, it's great.

[Andy Cohen]

And he wants to marry you by the end of the year. I read it in the French magazine.

[Ronnie Caram]

And it says Real Housewives.

[Andy Cohen]

Lara Pippin reacts to Jeff Kobe saying they're getting married in November as he.

[Ronnie Caram]

Talks about ring shopping. Plus, she reveals while he's why he stands out from past relationships. So is she going to be Ms. Kobe? Mrs. Kobe by 2026, and she's like.

[Kiki]

I, like, feel like. Like, I feel like. I think so, like, feel.

[Larsa Pippen]

Yeah, I think so.

[Stephanie]

Okay, cool. Well, we all know this is gonna end in failure, so we'll let you try to pretend like it's gonna be something.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ms. Kobe trying it.

[Stephanie]

So Andy's like, kiki, what's the latest on the new condo you're living in?

[Ben Mandelker]

A show about God, no, I'm living in a different condo, but I don't even have made plans to move into Showma before I even knew about Stephanie. So something you got to give me half off. Somebody's like, what?

[Stephanie]

Half off?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's crazy. You know it doesn't work that way.

[Andy Cohen]

This is big discount. Marisol, how is your pristine colon saying?

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, great colon questions. Today? It feels especially good. Andy, my knees could use a little help. My knees have taken a little bit of a bullying disease, man. Even my colon's feeling fine. Thanks for asking.

[Stephanie]

Jeez, Adriana, who has a higher sex drive, you or Basquiat? Remember when you had a boyfriend? Him for one episode at the beginning of the season.

[Ronnie Caram]

However, he has not hired somebody from France to come in and pretend that he's the boyfriend for a few months. So I don't know who wins this one. Andy, it's a toss up visit. Toss up?

[Stephanie]

Julia, you're coming up on a year since you and Martina have had the boys in your life. Do they have any sense of what a champion Martina is?

[Julia]

Yes, I, I think they do, because Martina walks in and wakes him up every morning by saying, wake up. A champion is waking you up. So I think they're starting to get the point.

[Andy Cohen]

They understand because Martina watches tennis all day and she tells the boys, champion on tv.

[Julia]

Look at champion on tv.

[Kiki]

I can tell you they, they call.

[Andy Cohen]

Steffi Graf useless and sorrowful. So what? I don't know. You take this how you will.

[Julia]

Whenever we go to Denny's, Martina will only make allow them to eat a Grand Slam. And she says, I want that, but the real one, not some pussy version with pancakes. And then she throws the pancake on the floor.

[Stephanie]

It's so funny, Lisa.

[Andy Cohen]

We're gonna cover a lot of different topics. Any plans to take notes? I always take notes, Andy. Well, you recently rang the opening bell at nasdaq, which was hilarious. Why did they let you in the room?

[Ronnie Caram]

What the fuck were you doing in that?

[Stephanie]

What are all the other celebrities taken that day?

[Ben Mandelker]

How did Lisa Hochstein ring a bell at the Nasdaq? Did she think it was nascar? What happened here?

[Andy Cohen]

That was a real pitch me moment, Andy. It was on my bucket list, really.

[Ben Mandelker]

And my bucket list.

[Ronnie Caram]

I want to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, she didn't even do the, she did the Nasdaq, which is not even the stock exchange. Gertie got to be the New York Stock Exchange. Not that one's better than the other, I don't think, but, like, I do like that Lisa has his moment with nasdaq, but then it's like and superseded by gritty doing the New York Stock Exchange instead.

[Gertie]

She's like, yes, I got to do that. It was, it was really amazing. I, I, I couldn't believe that, that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was able to do that.

[Gertie]

And unlike a cruise ship, I was actually allowed to be there. And I wasn't kicked off for some reason, but yeah, it was for breast cancer.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was symbolic.

[Gertie]

Where's your, where's your belt, Captain Sandy.

[Andy Cohen]

Alexia, when I last saw you, you said your relationship with Todd changes. So how's it doing at 11:35am today?

[Ronnie Caram]

We're no longer together, Andy. And zero contact. I haven't seen, I haven't spoken to him. I blocked him from my social media.

[Andy Cohen]

From my phone, from my emails, from everything.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's the only way to do it, Andy. That's how I am. Strong. It's me strong.

[Michelle Collins]

Hold on.

[Ronnie Caram]

Something's butting in my pocket.

[Michelle Collins]

Maybe it's thought maybe it's it's not Todd.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's not Todd. We're still broken up.

[Stephanie]

Are you still going by Nepala?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, legally I am, but, like, not that that it matters, but, like, on social media, I removed Nepala. It's just Alexia, you know, like Madonna. I'm just Alexia. I never really identified with that last name. I never feel like, you know, and I feel like you really have to feel it, you know, I never felt like Nippola, you know, like, you know what? I feel free, Andy, because all you have. You have no idea. I would come to these reunions, and I would be in a fight, and they would torture me, and he would say that none of you women were my friends, and I would say, no.

[Gertie]

But I'm a star. Of course they love me. I'm a star.

[Ben Mandelker]

And you know what? You know. You know, like, that's. That's all I was. That's what I was going through on the show.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, he would pick fights with her, and she told me the day before, Todd picked a fight with me. And then we'd go to the reunion. He wouldn't talk to her. She'd go home, and he still wouldn't talk to her. I mean, I don't know how she came out of here and did it, because the reunion is a hard day. It's a very difficult day. We're artists, and to come out here and just perform our art like this takes something, Andy. I mean, we all went to school for this for many, many years. This is a very, very difficult profession. And to not have the support of the old man who's currently funding your condo dreams, I mean, it is. It's rough, Andy.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, thank God I got Steve back there being like the. Being like the iron that I need to keep me going.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, look.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, Steve, how you doing? Oh, can someone wake up Steve? I don't think he realizes.

[Ronnie Caram]

Hey, can we cut to the Steve Cam to see what Steve's up to? Cut to Steve just being like. So your name is Jeff. Play football? Football, yeah. Basketball? Yeah. I'm more of a golf. More of a golf kind of a person myself. Don't you golf? No.

[Ben Mandelker]

You have a. You ever listen to Frankie Avalon? No. So Andy is like.

[Stephanie]

It's like, okay, well, Todd's been active on social media. Islington boys on Instagram posted a question to Todd, and he said, the wife of a friend said that she's driving his fake car, living in his fake apartment.

[Ben Mandelker]

What should she do?

[Stephanie]

To which Todd replied, hello, Islington Boys. I would like to say I'm very sorry that you had to be endured that question over here on social media. The truth is that actually it depends. Does the woman bring anything to the relationship or is she just there to get things? Hold on. New piece of paper.

[Julia]

I apologize to Alexia.

[Stephanie]

When I said that comment 10 seconds ago, that was not my best self. I was in an angry place. And sometimes when you're angry, you say things you don't mean. Please accept this box of Godiva chocolates on my behalf to know that I meant nothing by it at all. Thank you, Todd.

[Andy Cohen]

I would like to apologize heretofore and now at this to dip in dots for not offering their services during my apologies. I have now remedied this and sent Alexia Dippin Darts to apologize for my behavior, which was thereto forth unreliably nasty. Thank you so much for your matter to this attention.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you know, first of all, that's like very typical Todd, because we all know he loves to do videos. And then we see videos of Todd like giving all those apologies and like, so it doesn't. It doesn't surprise me that he would say something like that because he obviously knows that I wasn't there for the money. Okay? I was just there for the good apartment, I think.

[Stephanie]

Okay, well, with the narcissist.

[Ronnie Caram]

Which is why I'm dating a poor person right now, Andy. You know, like my next person's gonna be poor.

[Andy Cohen]

Really?

[Ronnie Caram]

No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not there for the money, but I would not be there without the money.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Kiki]

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[Ronnie Caram]

Basically, she's like, we all know Todd's a raging fucking crazy person and goes and makes rude videos online. That's part of his charm, Andy. So then the question is, okay, well, you now finally admit that that narcissist party was for Todd. And so of course Alexia flip flops and she's like, okay, now I'm gonna admit it, Stephanie. That was for him. That was for him.

[Michelle Collins]

That's true.

[Ronnie Caram]

That's true. I know. It's like a big shock to everybody. Like, after I said, this is a narcissist party and it's for Todd. But it was for Todd. It was.

[Gertie]

Stephanie's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, I knew it. I knew it was about Toddler, and.

[Stephanie]

It'S like, okay, there you go. So are you going to start d.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are you going to start dating? Well, I feel like I should, but. Because, you know, like, you know that there's an old expression that says one nail drives out another. Like a Spanish saying that's like a new nail takes out. Like, when you cut your nail, the nail. Another nail grows back. So, you know, like, what I'm trying to say is, I'm going to get a manicure after this at Frank. At Frankie and Frankie and Alexia's Nail Salon. Thank you.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, Mary Soul explains that it means, like, the best way to get over somebody is to get under somebody new, basically. Well, she does.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, is that what that meant?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, she's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought she lived. She points at the finger. I thought when she pointed at the finger, it meant, like, a new nail comes in when you get rid of the old one.

[Ronnie Caram]

My biggest revenge is getting my power, Andy. That's my biggest revenge. Okay, you know what? I'm taking my. You know what? I gave somebody new hair today, and I won. I won, Andy.

[Stephanie]

So you feel like you have your power back?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, I do.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Although, actually, there's a power outage, so I actually don't have power in the condo. But, like, you know, generally speaking.

[Ronnie Caram]

But I got it back. Yeah, it's not powerful, but I got it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I got it.

[Andy Cohen]

Well, that's great. All right, let's switch gears. Gertie, viewers love seeing you with Nicole this season for five minutes. How was that? Do you hang out?

[Michelle Collins]

She's like, we. We're set to see each other very soon. It'll be a mini reunion, Andy. Mini. It's going to be amazing here.

[Gertie]

I have the details for it right here. Please join Nicole on a boat with Captain Sandy. God damn it. I'm gonna get kicked out of the restaurant again.

[Andy Cohen]

Well, I'm curious if you think your issues with Julia would have turned out differently if Nicole were there?

[Michelle Collins]

My issue with Julia would be great if she had picked up the phone and called me directly. Andy. Instead of having Norma, some lady named Norma call me and telling me that I'm fired.

[Stephanie]

Well, one of the biggest things that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Viewers reacted to was the women's lack.

[Stephanie]

Of reaction to the water toss.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we See all that, and Gertie.

[Gertie]

Is saying, well, I. Like, I was. Like, I was repacked. It was like, re. Like, I literally repacked. I literally repacked.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know what she's even trying to say there. But then. Oh, I guess this is. This is just the fight. Sorry. Sorry. I thought this was. We're back in present time, but we're still in the. In the flashback. So they have the fight, the water thing. And Alexia's like, yeah. I mean, like, looking back and reliving this and, like, watching it, like, I wish I would have said something, and I wish I would have done more. And, I mean, the way that Julia disrespected Gertie, that was not okay. Okay. It was not. Right. You know? And I feel like we were just in shock, because who would do that in front of a star? Right? And at that moment, there was, like, no excuse that we didn't stick up for Gertie, except for all the excuses we're about to give.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So I wanted to. I want you to know that there's no excuse. And, like, I'm never going to say anything about it, even though I'm about to make 20 excuses about it and tell you how it's your fault. Okay?

[Kiki]

And so Lars is like, yeah, but, like. Like, sometimes, like, we're like, what happened? But, like, we were like, I feel like I don't condone this behavior, but Julia didn't know she was going to do that. So it wasn't rehearsed or something. So, like, it's okay because she didn't rehearse it. So, like, I think it was, like, very reactive. Like, she just wanted to throw it at the table, and we all got soaked. It wasn't just. It wasn't just Gertie.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm like, oh, okay, okay. So you guys don't want to make any excuses.

[Ben Mandelker]

All dresses matter.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. All tablecloths matter, Guys. It's like, the same thing.

[Michelle Collins]

So, wait, you confirmed that she intended to throw the water towards me?

[Andy Cohen]

Well, it was directly at her. Like, what do you. What do you need? Confirmation?

[Kiki]

I'm saying, like, we should have all done more, but, like, however, like, sometimes when you're sitting there, you don't do anything. Like, you didn't do anything when Adriana threw a whole glass at me. Gertie.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then we go back to 2022.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we see that there was. That did happen. And there. No. There was no reaction from anyone. And Adrian's like, I did not throw a glass at you.

[Larsa Pippen]

She's like, you threw a whole glass at me. A drink and a glass. A drink inside of a glass. But the drink came out of the glass because you threw it. So it fell out of the glass, but they both came out.

[Kiki]

Also, you threw ice at me that day. Don't forget. Like, you threw ice at me because there was. Like, you threw a straw at me, too.

[Larsa Pippen]

Remember, there's an umbrella. Someone took an umbrella and shrank it and put it in the.

[Ben Mandelker]

In the glass.

[Larsa Pippen]

Instead of, like, celebrating that, like, amazing feat of science, you threw it. You almost broke the scientific miracle.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah. That is called beaker deflection. Okay? You're trying to bring science into something to deflect. Okay? And I don't know what you're saying. Like, what are you getting at right now?

[Andy Cohen]

Wait, do you accept Alexia's apology?

[Michelle Collins]

No, that wasn't an apology. No, no. I literally came to listen more than I'm going to speak, so I would like to listen for an apology.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like. But like, she. So she's like, okay, well, you know what? There is a history in this group, and there is a pattern of people throwing objects or things and not liking it. But when it happens to you, that's when you get upset, which I love. It's.

[Michelle Collins]

I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's a history of throwing things in this group. And you don't say anything. But what happens to you? You get upset. And you have every right to be upset, just like everyone else did when it happened to them. We've all had things thrown at each other. It comes for you one of these days. First they threw a cocktail umbrella at Larsa. We say nothing. Then they throw an ice cube at Adriana, and we say nothing.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then you know what? The juice box comes at Lisa, and we said nothing, you know, and then the water came. But now you're saying something about the water.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, I don't think so. Kiki's like, my thing is, me and Gertie, we were good. And even at that event, like, I stood up for you as a friend, which is. I understand you probably think I did not do my best, but as a friend, in that moment, that's what I would want the friend to do for me. And we see footage of, like, Kiki kind of, like, at that moment, trying to, like, pull Gertie away and, like, calmer down. And Kiki basically says that in the wake of that, she actually got threats and people were saying that she was racist or something like that.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she says, yeah, I'm getting all sorts of threats.

[Michelle Collins]

And Gertie's like, racist about what?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she says, because I wasn't supporting, and she was.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh, so now you're racist?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she said, well, that's what the whole Internet was saying. I'm being tagged from your post, from everything. And Andy's like, wait, it's my understanding.

[Andy Cohen]

That you said in the press that by her removing. By her removing you, she made you look like an angry black woman.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, well, that's not saying that she's a racist. Right, right. I'm. Gertie never said that. I mean, I can understand how they would say, okay, well, everybody's coming at us online and calling us racist. You know, Gertie said that's the audience doing that, not Gertie. But I guess they're saying Gertie is, like.

[Ben Mandelker]

In a distracted by article, Gertie is quoted as saying, because this is on. They put this up. And she's saying, I'm being pulled physically when I haven't done anything. But you want to make it seem like I'm being held back because I'm about to swing like an angry black woman. Kiki, stop it. Let's not do that. So Gertie is also saying that. And so Kiki is like. Like, I'm keeping getting tagged and people are threatening me, and they're literally saying, like, fafo around and find out. Alexa's like, what's happening? Gertie is the second half of the season, we go to Spain and there was some kind of resolution, and we're all getting along, and even you and Julia appear to be in a good place. And then the show comes out, and then you went and do a press tour, and then this whole war starts on social media, you know, and it didn't even include me a star. And so then we see, like, more headlines about all this.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. But also, she's talking about stuff that happened on the show. I mean, what the hell? Like, they all do it. They all talk about whatever storylines are going on the show. Like, the fight is fresh. So I don't know. I don't know. So, I mean, I kind of get what they're saying here, but, like, they're basically. Basically I. What I hear Alexia saying is, we had a little fight. There was some water thrown. It wasn't that big of a deal. It happens all the time.

[Ben Mandelker]

The.

[Ronnie Caram]

Then you made up, and then. Then you act like you're offended again and let everybody call us racist is basically what she's saying. Right. Which Okay, I can see that. But it's not Gertie's job to go out there and say, they're not racist. Nothing they did.

[Michelle Collins]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Ronnie Caram]

We've all seen. We all saw the show. I mean, the audience pretty overwhelmingly felt like it was not cool what you guys did and how you overreacted to Gertie putting text up on a screen, but didn't give a shit that Julia just, like, attacked her in this thing. That's not cool. And it doesn't matter that you do it all the time, because you all have something to say about it when it happens. Happens to you. It's not like it just goes by without anybody saying anything. So the audience saw it. So blame the audience.

[Ben Mandelker]

And there was something like. Even before we got to the text message thing that happened later at Gertie's event, we all clocked it. When it happened after. Right after the episode aired, we all clocked at this. There was. There was an undertone of something feeling problematic about this because it wasn't just like the other, like, water throwing things were, like, little, like, whatever. But there was something about, like, being in, like, a wedding. And, like, it was like Julia was. Julia's basis for being angry at Gertie felt so tenuous at best already. And there was something about, like, that she just, like, really soaked Gertie at, like, in a context that just felt. It just felt like more humiliating than the other things we saw. Like, you cannot compare Kiki throwing a juice box at Lisa on that. On that boat to. To that moment. Like, that was not a humiliating moment. Okay? Even if. Even if Lisa felt some sort of way about having an object being thrown at her, like, I'm sorry. This was just. You know, there's. It was like a. It was like all the loved ones were there, the husbands were there. It was. It just was like a. A time when you sort of don't expect that. And it just was. It came off as really sort of like, more hurtful than the other spill.

[Ronnie Caram]

It was also the lead up to it, because the season started with Alexia being like, you know what, Gordy? You're just too much. You're too loud. Like, you got. You're just too loud. You need to stop being so loud. And Mary's all being like, yeah, you know, you're just too much. You're just too loud. Like, no one wants to be around that. So it had come after that. That's how the season opened with you guys being like, she's too much. And Everybody kind of trying to ice her out and saying she's too much and she's too loud and she's too energetic and she's too this and that. And then when Julia came after her at that wedding, it was literally out of nowhere. They were having a little argument about text, and then she stands up and just. It was so over the top, and nobody did anything and then took her side. And that's why it's weird, you know, it didn't feel. I don't want to go to say, like, racist. It just felt icky, and it felt like you should. Did no better.

[Ben Mandelker]

I felt icky. Agreed. Although what we're. What we find out later in this episode, which I thought was fascinating, was that there actually was a bit more of a reaction towards Julia than what they actually had aired, which is a little up, because it kind of, like, held a lot of these women out to dry. You know, they're like, oh, they didn't have any reaction. But we saw that they actually did have some reaction, but it still was not as big as the reaction later on in the season.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Now, all of this said, I do think that Gertie, you know, she's so stubborn in her.

[Michelle Collins]

Like, she's like, no, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know, she's. She's got the winds of the audience behind her as well. So I think she's coming into this. Like, I won this.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's a little way. Yeah, she's a little hot. The thing with when Gertie is angry, she, like, literally cannot hear input.

[Ronnie Caram]

So it is frustrating on these shows, especially at the reunion. Like, the rule is you fight and then you make up, then you fight and then you make up, and then you have a huge fight, and it's entertaining. And then you have to forgive each other and stuff. And I don't necessarily blame Gertie for being like, no, you don't get to just come here and pretend you're sor. Because social media got mad at you. Which I think is what she's saying right now without saying it. But Alexia's like, oh, you know, I never would have done that after thinking about it. Like, I'm really sad for Gertie now. Like, no, you're mad because, like, you're saying that because the audience is coming for you, you know? Yeah. So I don't blame Gertie for not just immediately swallowing it and moving on. The fact is, it was some.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So. So then Alexia's saying. Alexia is basically now, like, complaining that Kurti went to social media And. And, like, sort of attacked them on social media. She's like, you know, every single episode when this was happening, I mean, like, you know, like. I mean, we're all together. We don't think that it's right. It's not right. It's not right that you go on social media, fan the flames. You're fanning the flames. And we see Gertie's text and everything.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Gertie's like, no, no, these were bad. I don't. I think that they're. They're overreacting to stuff. They're trying to accuse her of saying that they're racist. And she never said that. And I don't think she hinted at it either. This thing with Kiki was another black woman. And she didn't say. She was just saying, like, you should know better than to try and make me look like an angry black woman in front of all these people. So Gertie's like, okay, well, show me then. Tell me exactly what you're talking about. These tweets or whatever I did. So we see one from her and.

[Michelle Collins]

It says, they came to perform. I came to inform. They thought chaos was power. Well, I just let Lego do the heavy lifting. Gertie.

[Ronnie Caram]

Hashtag Gertie. I don't think that that was fanning the flames or being bad. I think that's a normal social media.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, they all get on social media and say crazy things. I mean, Larsa, for crying out loud. So Gertie is like, I wasn't saying this.

[Gertie]

She did this because of this, because it created some sort of flame that's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, okay, well, you're not aware of it.

[Gertie]

No, I'm asking you, like, what is. What did I put on social media? Just, I would like to know.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, well, for example, the one with, like, Julia to the waters.

[Gertie]

Like, well, I never posted that.

[Ben Mandelker]

But you never acknowledged on your priest that you were in a good place with Julia.

[Stephanie]

And he's like, okay, all right. Well, maybe she was reacting to what was airing at the time. Alexia. That's what it was.

[Gertie]

Gertie's like, well, I do appreciate that. You saying that the press, that you wish that you could have done more, but because, like, you know what you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did, you did do. You did do more.

[Gertie]

And now we're going to play the footage of what happened after I got the water tossed. Not a terrible. Not a goodie. I'm going to. I'm going to do all security.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, like, let's.

[Gertie]

Let's roll the Footage.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's hold the footage, which I love when Housewives prompted the director to, like.

[Michelle Collins]

Package roll that beautiful bean footage, please.

[Gertie]

You didn't get me a towel. You didn't get me security, nothing. We're gonna see that right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I like that Lars is like.

[Larsa Pippen]

Well, you didn't get me a towel.

[Ronnie Caram]

Two years ago either, when someone was throwing water on me.

[Michelle Collins]

What I did is get you guys verbally then hazing me after that. So you did do a lot after you hate hazed me. You hazed me.

[Ronnie Caram]

So then we see 11 minutes after the water tossed. And Alexi is going, well, I'm just saying, you know, like, you put all your eggs in one basket and how did that work out for you? And she's like, what?

[Michelle Collins]

What are you talking about?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, larsa says nicole because you're friends only with Nicole.

[Kiki]

And that's what we're saying.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, you're wondering, like, why we're not.

[Kiki]

Your friends now, but, like, you were.

[Ronnie Caram]

Only friends with Nicole.

[Kiki]

Now Nicole's gone, you don't have, like, friends. Like.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm telling you. And I'm telling you. So, like, I'm saying, I, I felt like you were a little bit disconnected with everybody in the group, which is why it's okay for you to get one of them on your head. That's all I, I. And he's like, yeah, I agree, by the way. So, like, this was like, they, they did, like, literally tear into her. So it's funny because they, they do tear. We see them tear into Julia later. But I did forget that they also were, like, being really shitty to Gertie right afterwards.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So Andy's like, gertie, what's your reaction.

[Andy Cohen]

To the equivocation of other people getting things thrown at them and not reacting?

[Michelle Collins]

She like, well, there's context behind that. And we all know that this is part of a bigger idea or concept.

[Kiki]

And Lars is like, she never, like, answers the question.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, oh, my God, she literally did. But you're kind of.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Gertie had a good line.

[Ronnie Caram]

I probably don't know what concept means.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Gertie. I liked when Gertie said this.

[Gertie]

Well, you know Julia, she's a three pet offender.

[Ben Mandelker]

Julia, of course. And the fact of the matter is.

[Gertie]

That you've all tried it at Marisol.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which Marisol forgets, you know. Oh, I, I didn't forget.

[Gertie]

I just.

[Ben Mandelker]

You didn't help me either. And you got. By the way. No one helped me when she threw ice at me by the way. Remember that? No.

[Ronnie Caram]

Someone stopped her, didn't they? When she threw the ice bucket, someone came over and like, yeah, so. So someone helped you and they couldn't really help you when they all had.

[Michelle Collins]

You were all sitting down.

[Ronnie Caram]

Weren't they all sitting down? Like in a big circle in beach chairs or something? I mean, come on.

[Gertie]

And number two was at the Mamacita's luncheon where for some reason she felt the need to break glassware and break a chair when Nicole had to pay for a replacement.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then was he footage that we never saw before of Julia screaming like, say yes.

[Julia]

Did you say yes or no? Did you say, stop, stop, stop. Did you see it?

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's banging a chair on the ground. I was like, why? Why don't we get to see that?

[Ronnie Caram]

Why didn't we get to see that? Why have they been holding Julia's crazy back? And also how people, and including me, forget how fucking psycho Julia is. I mean, they've. Some of the clips they showed, I was like, oh, my God, I forgot that Julia goes this crazy on people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then Gertie's like.

[Gertie]

And then number three is when she physically assaulted me and she finally landed her moment on tv.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, I like that. Like painting the narrative of Julia of like trying to have a big reality TV moment and like getting cut out.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Michelle Collins]

Finally she co starred me. So she got picked up. That's what happened. Yeah, that's what happened. You're welcome.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, why hasn't Julia spoken one word?

[Stephanie]

She's like, yeah, well, I'm about to ask her what made you throw the water that night?

[Julia]

Oh, I understand that watching the footage brought you back horrible memories and I'm very sorry. Again, I was out of character. I reacted, I overreacted. It was slightly tequila and health, but it is not excuse. There was no excuse for it. Nothing that I do is planned or really rehearsed.

[Larsa Pippen]

I am sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

Why do they keep saying that? Like that gets her off the hook when. Yeah, because Larsa said it about her too.

[Kiki]

Like, it's not like she planned it. Yes, I didn't plan it.

[Ronnie Caram]

What is that?

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that she was accused of? Because I think when she threw the water, it felt like kind of awkward and clunky. Almost like she was planning to do that all along. I think that people felt that at the time.

[Ronnie Caram]

It did seem like that. It did seem like. It was like, I'm gonna be mad, I'm gonna scream, we're gonna have this huge fight and I'm gonna throw Water. It did feel like that, but I don't think that anybody said it here. I mean, I probably said it, but.

[Michelle Collins]

Gertie's like, wow, that's scary. Julia.

[Andy Cohen]

She goes, well, this is how I am scary.

[Ronnie Caram]

So and so. Adriana's like, except the defense. You just got here.

[Michelle Collins]

Well, it's been three times. You've done it three times.

[Kiki]

Let her finish, though. Like, let her finish, though. Let her finish, though. Like, she didn't panic. Go ahead, finish your speech.

[Julia]

I am incredibly sorry, and I already said sorry to you. Get in. I would like to see it one more time because, I mean, from not only my heart, but God's heart. And all I can say, sincerely, I'm very, very sorry.

[Michelle Collins]

Three times. Three times. Three. No, three times.

[Julia]

Between you and I, it happened. It happened one time between one of us. Okay, it's just all the scoreboards, really only one, because it's brought around other people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Commercials. Here comes one right now.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay, we've heard a bunch of fake, stupid apologies. Let's talk about Gertie's celebration of life event.

[Ronnie Caram]

Dun, dun, dun.

[Andy Cohen]

Ladies, the big issue that resonated with viewers was your outrage at Gertie showing the text versus your response to the water being thrown. Marisol, you are raising your knee. Go ahead.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's, like, moral. Yeah, you know what? I would like to say something, because I looked to. I took Julia to the bathroom to calm her down, and I told her where we're miked. So you can roll the footage if you want, but I said, don't throw anything at anybody ever, unless it's Adriana's face.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we see footage of. Of Julia, like, Marisol and Julia going to the bathroom at the wedding.

[Stephanie]

And Julia's like, I'm going to cry.

[Julia]

I'm going to cry. Oh, no. I'm literally going to cry.

[Stephanie]

I'm going, oh, all right, well, hey.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just see, look, don't throw things.

[Ronnie Caram]

I was very angry with Julia, and I was equally angry. I just don't like it in public, in a display. It's humiliating. You know, neither of them were right to me.

[Kiki]

I said that.

[Michelle Collins]

No, no, no, no, no. I want to respond, you know, because the big difference between these two things, like, I'm happy that you said, behind the scenes, don't throw water, but would have been great, like, hey, ladies, we need to have a discussion in front of me, because that's the problem. I never saw with me present.

[Kiki]

But that's not true, though. Like, that's not true, though.

[Ronnie Caram]

So then we see Another flashback to two minutes after the water toss. They've left all this stuff out, which, yeah, is crazy. So there's all this stuff that we haven't seen. And Kiki is now helping Gertie clean water off. And Gertie and Mary Soul's like, yeah, I don't like throwing of stuff. And Larsa says, yeah, I don't like this.

[Kiki]

Like, I feel like we can't, like, throw drinks. Like, we can, I feel like, do that really, like, she.

[Ben Mandelker]

She literally reprimands Julia, like, right in.

[Gertie]

Front of Gertie, goes, well, thank you, Larsa. Thank you, Lara.

[Ben Mandelker]

Again, this was not as big of a reaction as the other event, but, you know, it was. It was a reaction.

[Gertie]

So Gertie's like, well, actions speak volume and your inaction speak volume as well.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're like, no, Gertie. But like, you had the same situation last season with Larsa.

[Gertie]

And Gerdy's like, well, we're talking about this season. No, but, like, you're not going to.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tell me when, like, what I'm going to talk about Gerdy, because I'm talking about last season and you sat here and we listened to you. And you need to respect us too, because I'm gonna say what I need to say. Okay. Because I'm a star.

[Ronnie Caram]

But what was the thing that she's saying? The situation with Larsa last year, the same situation with Larsa.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know, to be honest. Her. Her situation with Larsa was just that Larsa blabbed about her cancer, right?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes, she was blabbing about her cancer. That's what I thought too. So Alexia is like, no, you need to talk. Let us talk. You know, we give advice to Larsa that she should have had the conversation with you instead of making it about everybody else.

[Kiki]

Yeah, but, like, you never, like, answered your phone, like, and you didn't, like, answer your text, like, like I said, you like flowers. I feel like. And you, like, I didn't. You didn't, like, respond.

[Michelle Collins]

She's, oh, behind closed doors. Behind closed doors.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Andy's like, he's agreeing with you.

[Michelle Collins]

She's like, oh, well, you know what? But they're ready to public shame me, so they can't public apologize, but they.

[Ronnie Caram]

Can public shame, which I get.

[Ben Mandelker]

No one's public shaming you.

[Gertie]

Stay on Earth. Stay on Earth.

[Andy Cohen]

I was like, okay, well, stay on Earth.

[Ben Mandelker]

What.

[Stephanie]

What did the text messages prove that you put up?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, the point was that after, like.

[Gertie]

Multiple attempts of saying, guys, look, it's not true.

[Michelle Collins]

Look, look, look.

[Gertie]

No one wanted to listen.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, but what did it prove?

[Gertie]

It proved everything. But they don't read, Andy. They just don't read.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Adrian's like, well, just say that you were invited and didn't ask and didn't ask to go. And, like, that's what the point was.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, she's just trying to help her because they're just asking her for simple clarification, and that's what she should have said. They're proving that I never begged to go on this cruise. Julie is crazy, right?

[Michelle Collins]

So Gertie's like, wait, wait. I get to a point with people not listening. You feel unseen, and, you know, it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Feels like I don't matter and can't reprimand her in front of me because of this little click thing. And then, you know, you get to.

[Michelle Collins]

A point where it doesn't matter. And that was my breaking point. And I said, I'm done. I'm done. I'm doing it and I'm done. That's it. Texts are going on the screen.

[Stephanie]

All right, well, so this event. These events, they happen on the show. She's apologized to you maybe five times on camera now. Where do you go from here?

[Gertie]

Well, I think that we need to come to a place right now, presently, and I wish it would have been at the premiere party where you say, you know what? Something big happened between me and Gertie, but I want to move us, see us move forward.

[Stephanie]

Okay, so what about tonight, though? I'm trying to set this up for a hug, an apology, something like that. So come on, you can do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, where.

[Michelle Collins]

Where are you today, Julia?

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, where am I? I am right in front of you. I am girl. A girl standing in front of God in bookstore, wondering why Julia Roberts is on bus.

[Ronnie Caram]

Is she a new film?

[Andy Cohen]

I love her.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay, get to the point. Just say sorry.

[Kiki]

I'm so sorry.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay, well, why didn't you call me before? Watch what happens live. Apology. Why didn't you call me? You haven't called me for anything.

[Kiki]

Well, I did not call you.

[Ronnie Caram]

My children were under attack.

[Andy Cohen]

You could have. Like a good friend. You are. You could have volunteered and say something to stop spreading this hate.

[Ronnie Caram]

My children.

[Michelle Collins]

My boys.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, stop with you dragging your boys on here as props. That's crazy. You could have still called her and worked this out. That's nuts.

[Gertie]

Well, I had no idea the public was attacking your.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your children.

[Julia]

No, not the public. Was Martina making them up at 4 in the morning, make them play tennis every single Morning, they're out there, attack.

[Andy Cohen]

Them with balls.

[Ronnie Caram]

Saying, run faster, loser.

[Andy Cohen]

Run faster.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she says she went online. She accuses Gertie of going online and discussed publicly shaming us for changing the boy's name, referring to them like grown children. And we see the tweet from Gertie, and it says, I've never judged Martina for anything she has done in the public eye, let alone never questioned them for renaming their adopted grown kids.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Julia's saying that they can.

[Ronnie Caram]

What was this? Why was this bad? I don't.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know.

[Ronnie Caram]

I have to see what it was a reply to, because I. I've never judged Martina for anything in the public eye. So that means that it was based on something somebody had said about Martina or something, or Martina must have said something, let alone never question them for renaming their adopted grown kids. Saying they're. So she's just saying I'm not. She's saying I'm not judging them, but I guess they're saying that is judging them by bringing it up in a tweet.

[Ben Mandelker]

Very confused. Sure. But basically, Julia says they spoke to child psychologists, and it was like, okay.

[Stephanie]

And Andy's like, okay, well, you post about the kids for their security, which.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, she's putting them on tv. So I don't know that that really. That was our personal choice for them and their security, which means you're putting them on tv.

[Larsa Pippen]

So, guys, kids are off limits. Like, kids are off limits, okay? You don't ever talk about the kids. You just wait for them to turn 18, and then you start dating them.

[Stephanie]

And he's like, okay, well, so here we are.

[Ben Mandelker]

Here we are. Okay.

[Stephanie]

Where do you go with this, Gertie?

[Gertie]

Well, I'm right here, okay? I didn't start this fight. I never knew about this fight. Can you at least admit that it was not about the cruise at all?

[Julia]

No, it was not about the cruise.

[Gertie]

Yes. Because of the cruise. I think you saw an opportunity, but.

[Julia]

You just publicly humiliated me with text messages to prove that you are not asking to go on cruise. But it's not about the cruise.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Gertie]

Yes. Why can't you follow along?

[Julia]

Okay, I'm just going to say the only opportunity I'm seeing is how to move forward.

[Ben Mandelker]

You.

[Julia]

Because how you and I face each other after eight months, and that is the only goal. And I am now apologizing for you. What is this? Nine times. Nine times by apologizing?

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, I hate when she keeps announcing the number of times she's apologized because that totally drains the sincerity out of it. If you're keeping tabs on how many times you apologize, yes, you've maybe may have done it many times. But if you sincerely want to apologize and move on, you're not going to throw it in the other person's face. How many times you've apologized. Just say. I just keep saying, like, I really. I truly, truly, truly want to move on with you.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, it's also annoying because Andy started it by saying she apologized five times. So now every time she apologized, she.

[Kiki]

Goes, now it's a six time. Right, Andy?

[Andy Cohen]

Now, right?

[Julia]

And can we get counter. Can we get counter up?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's doing this whole thing where she's got her eyes half closed. Like, she's just so. She's about to fall into a. Just a depression hole. And she's like, my only core wish.

[Andy Cohen]

Aim, desire that I have is to go down on my knees to beg for your forgiveness.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, okay, okay, no one's asking for that.

[Michelle Collins]

And Gertie's like, no, no. You called me psychopath. Scary. You said at Lisa's party she's fake.

[Andy Cohen]

And she goes, But I apologize 10 times now.

[Michelle Collins]

But those things matter because I'm not fake. And I've been nothing but a good friend to you. And so when we're there eight months and you have nothing bad, there's nothing. One text message from you in eight months, you know, like, I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

[Andy Cohen]

It's like, I'm sorry. What do I do to make it better?

[Ronnie Caram]

How about not just apologize for shit when you're on tv? How about, like, be a real life fucking decent person? I think is her point, you know, her point is like, why do I have to come on here and forgive all these people after they've been tortured online when not one of them has made a real life effort to be nice? You know, they're bitches to me all year. It's like two years in a row with Julia working behind my back and being an evil asshole to me. And now all sudden I have to forgive her because she's crying on tv and I have to make a public show so people don't go bully her children, which, by the way, stop bullying her children. If anybody's doing that, that's psycho. But, you know, obviously. But I don't think Gertie needs to, like, fold either. I don't believe one thing Julia says at this point.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he's like, well, the cruise.

[Gertie]

The cruise.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jo.

[Julia]

Like, but the Clues were two years ago.

[Larsa Pippen]

Well, she needs to admit that the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cruise was a big deal, but not.

[Gertie]

Going to learn anything.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, weren't you just saying. We have to admit this isn't about the cruise. This is the thing. Why it's also tough with Gertie because she's, like, a moving target. And, like, it's like, wait, she was saying, like, it's not about the cruise, but now it is about the cruise. It's like, it's a little. Like. I would kind of go a little nuts trying to, like, reason with her. I think you just have to, like, once she's, like. Once she's pissed off and once she's activated, you just kind of can't. Like, you just. You can't, like, really expect much. You just have to wait for it to be calmed down, and then you can have those things. I'm not defending Julia. I'm just saying that Gertie is also, like, really, like, she just gets. She gets into a mode, and it's like, you can't get through.

[Ronnie Caram]

I have to say I get it, because I feel like they're gaslighting her. They keep acting like, what? But, Gertie, I said I'm sorry. But you're not saying what you apologize, what you're sorry for. You haven't admitted that the cruise thing was bullshit, that you did all this stuff behind her back. Gertie's not, like, verbalizing. She's just saying, like, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. Which I think is failing her. But she's not verbalizing what the real problems are. And I think it's making her crazy that this lady is just sitting there saying, but I said I'm sorry. And it's like, but, you know, you're not saying you're sorry. You didn't say anything about the cruise. Why you were wrong about that, that you were lying behind my back and going to these ladies that, you know, don't like me and talking all this shit to them to get on their good side when none of this stuff even happened. I never begged you to go on a cruise. I never did all this shit. So I can see why she's kind of. Of going crazy, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it makes sense why she's going crazy, but I wish she. If. If that's the reason why what you were saying. I wish she would.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's not like, verbal tools to say it. Yeah, she's assuming, like, you know, she wants them to say, like, when you're wrong. You want the other person to say, I'm sorry. And this is why I'm sorry. You know what I mean? And they're not going to give her that. But the as far as the cruise being two years ago, Julie's like, the cruise was two years ago. Who cares? But it was a year later that you were making it a storyline. It was not. It shouldn't have been a big deal then either, you know? Oh, it's crazy making.

[Stephanie]

So Andy's like, well, this is clear. You guys aren't gonna resolve this tonight. So it's complicated. It's deep. Blah, blah, blah.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Kiki]

What do you want to do, Bullyer? Like, what? What? She's apologized 10 times. Like, stop bullying her.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's like, oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay. Thanks, Larsa.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, thanks.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Adriana's like, garrity, you're taking the bait. You have to say about the lies about the facts of the cruise. You just have to say it.

[Gertie]

Well, it's not about the details of the cruise.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, but it is, Gertie. I also feel like sometimes Gertie is not honest with herself. Like, it is about that. That's why she put up the text messages in the first place. And it's okay that it's about that. You should be pissed because you were treated like on that cruise. And then Julia made it sound like you were a hangar on and being like a diva. Like, it is about that. And as well as other things.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. I think Adriana was actually giving her good advice here. She's like, you need to just specify why you're mad. And she's like, please, I promise you. They already said they don't want to talk about the details. So she was goes, okay, well, then I'm gonna go too. Like, if everybody's gonna get up, I'm gonna go, PP too. Because now they're. This is all kind of backstage stuff. So Gertie's like, listen, Adriana, you gotta get a hold of yourself. She goes, but I'm just trying to help you.

[Michelle Collins]

And she's like, no, no, it's not about the details. Nobody cares about the cruise, okay? We did good. We did good.

[Ronnie Caram]

I promise you.

[Michelle Collins]

Now you're getting too heated.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm just like, I'm not heated. I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, gertie's saying that. So now they come back to the set, and Lisa's like, I just want you guys to make up. That's also.

[Gertie]

Well, there's no band aids. And it's because We've got to talk about the issue.

[Ben Mandelker]

If we can't do that, then we won't do that. And then Stephanie's like, oh, my God, the sofa's green where I was sitting. Isn't that outrageous? I am such an outrageous housewife. There's an iconic moment, right? We're gonna remember this for the next 10 years. The green sofa. So show my group.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh, Ms. Green. Careful on that plane now, you hear?

[Kiki]

Oh, she's like, not getting like, on that plane, like, with that outfit.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, there's no way, like, so she's gonna be leaving literally right after this. Going to work. Andy. I've, like, never multitask so much in my life. Those condos don't show themselves.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, you're. The reunion's gonna be done at 9pm you're not like.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, she just, she does like, condo advertising. I don't know what this girl is trying to pull, but yeah, it's hilarious when she's like, oh my God, I'm such a boss. Babe.

[Michelle Collins]

I've gotta go, I've gotta go.

[Andy Cohen]

This is like crazy. Like, I've got so many things to do today for my Internet ads for.

[Stephanie]

The condo this season, we met a new housewife who made clear from the get those that she's a mighty Mouse that brings home plen of cheddar. But some thought that, that this no nonsense businesswoman was a little too plain spoken. Emphasis on plane. It's wordplay. Larsa, I know you were confused. Could someone spell out the two words.

[Ben Mandelker]

For her and explain to Larsa?

[Andy Cohen]

So, Stephanie, we got a lot of comments about you flaunting your wealth. Brantlin on Twitter says, why is my name Brandlin? It's a stupid name. Okay, Stephanie seems to be leading with her wealth. And Leva from Southern charm says, Stephanie's doing the most every chance she gets. She's talking about her money. Well, let me explain, okay? When a football player wins the super bowl, they wear a Super bowl ring and they walk around and they show the super bowl ring.

[Ronnie Caram]

So it's kind of like, you know.

[Andy Cohen]

I've won the old man ball. Super bowl. Okay? I got the biggest and the oldest old man balls. I literally fly on them. Andy, I won.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's literally like if Taylor Swift gets Jason. Kelsey, I got Joe Montana. Basically current era Joe Montana. It's like I literally won so much. So she says that she's like, really proud.

[Stephanie]

And he's like, well, you really came in so confidently. I'm curious, what did you learn about Yourself watching the show back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, for sure. I learned that my tone is something that, like, comes across so harsh when it's not what I truly mean. But, like, listen, Andy, I'm working in a predominantly male dominated world, and you're not going to get very far in life in that industry being the soft spoken, quiet one. Okay, Those Internet ads do not sell themselves. Sometimes you just got to say, I want 500 cpm, and they just have to listen to you.

[Ronnie Caram]

But you know what?

[Andy Cohen]

My heart is pure and I love deep, so I just need to express that. Okay, Oklahoma from Homo says, would you ever consider hiring the ladies of Shoma and. Or the ladies at Shoma?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, I learned with my sisters that women are so.

[Andy Cohen]

I will never hire another woman in this male dominated.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, she doesn't say that. She's like, no, I'm not gonna hire a real housewife.

[Andy Cohen]

You crazy? Are you nuts?

[Ben Mandelker]

So then he's like, asking, oh, do you, Marisol? Alexia. You called her bossy. What kind of boss you think she would be? Oh, demanding one. But that's a good thing, huh?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Andy's asking about the rumor that she was hired by his ex wife to be her assistant. Oh, my God, that's gotten so much traction. Just like the Runway under my private plane. Like so many podcasts, like, never met. Okay, first of all, I never met his ex wife. Never worked for her, never her assistant. She was. They were separate for eight years before anything even happened.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay, well, intelligent from Jen says, you didn't meet Massoud at a basketball game. You were hired by his ex wife to be her assistant. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Andy Cohen]

That is not true, Andy. That is absolutely. I haven't even met the woman. I haven't even met her.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Adriana goes, until recently when we were having lunch and we went to lunch, and all of the sudden she froze and she goes, oh, my God. Oh, my God, it's Massoud's wife.

[Andy Cohen]

She goes, ex wife.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, I don't want her to yell at me about the fact that I basically tore up her entire swimming pool and moved a little bit farther down the yard. Oh, my God, that'd be so awkward.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Andy Cohen]

So Charlotte from the web says, stephanie, I've had trouble with my sisters. Have you made progress with either of them? She goes, listen, I'm no piece of cake. I also don't eat pieces of cake.

[Ronnie Caram]

My sisters do.

[Andy Cohen]

Which is why they're hideous. And, you know, I've tried with them, but, you know, it's like, we speak different languages.

[Ronnie Caram]

Mine has dollar signs.

[Andy Cohen]

There's have, you know, IOUs. So you understand, Andy, they're poor.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And I've learned so much by speaking to Alexia. And all the girls have taught me a lot, actually. And I've tried, and there's, like, not a lot of progress. But I have emailed because I, like, learned how to do that. And, like, you know, I'm, like, really hoping that they watch this show because I feel like they'll be able to see that, like, I really, truly care. But they'll also see, like, like, look, she has problems with all her friends, so it's like, they'll see I'm an but an to everyone. They're not just, like, the. On the receiving end of, like, targeted behavior. I think that's really important.

[Kiki]

Yeah, like, she's the problem, Andy. That's what she's like saying.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, Kurt is like, yeah, that gives.

[Michelle Collins]

Some perspective to say it's not just them.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's such a. If that winds up being the conciliar, conciliatory tone that they. That they need. It's like, no. I want you to know. You guys think I'm targeting you. I'm an to everyone. That's it. Don't you wanna. Don't you wanna let this to everyone back into your life? This person who can't get along with a single person in her own life because she's too much of a douchebag herself. Don't you want her back in your life?

[Stephanie]

It's not against you personally.

[Ronnie Caram]

That was golden. She's so unself aware.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was one of my favorite, like, mental workarounds for why, like, someone should, like, resolve their issues. Like, no, you should get along with me because I'm actually terrible to so many different people. I think it's actually really important.

[Andy Cohen]

All right, Lisa, I have a very important question. When Jody referred to ac, Was he talking out me?

[Stephanie]

Does he have any ac? By the way, I was going to.

[Ronnie Caram]

Say it's kind of an odd parallel to make. But think Griffin allegations from years ago.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's true. So Lisa's like, oh, my God. He was talking about a. Ay means air conditioning.

[Stephanie]

All right. Yeah, we. We know. Well, everyone knows that Lisa Hoxy lives in Lisa Land.

[Andy Cohen]

Lisa World. Lisa World. That's my website, Andy. Okay, trying to do an intro here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, We. It was. We. We wrote it like that for a reason.

[Stephanie]

Okay. And by the way, your website is Lisa World.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay.

[Stephanie]

Well, her behavior raised a few eyebrows, and more than A few red flags Lisa's already lost.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a reference to the party you were at. Remember the party? No.

[Stephanie]

Okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

So he asks, has she listened to what Jody said about controlling the chaos?

[Andy Cohen]

Goes, yeah, I got a therapist. And, like, it's good because, like, it shows me about time management, you know, because, like, that really opened my eyes. I don't want people waiting on me. Okay, but that took years. She goes, yeah, but you know what? I have a problem. I don't calculate time, but I'm working on it, and I take full accountability for that.

[Gertie]

Oh, yeah, she takes accountability. That's great. That's really wonderful how she does that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

This so cracks me up just how the ladies all have something to say on each other's things. And did you notice at one point no one shuts up? And I noticed at one point that they turn off their mics on this one because on the other ones, they never turn off their mic. You hear every little thing they whisper. But in this one, Andy will be asking a question, and you literally hear people talking at full voice in the background.

[Ben Mandelker]

You do.

[Ronnie Caram]

They just had to turn off their mics. They've just stopped trying to control it. Speaking of controlled chaos. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's literally like filming a reunion in a. Like a food hall. It's just nothing but background voices.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's like when we do those bonus episodes in the food court or the. Yeah, you know, an airplane or like an u. What am I saying? An airport or whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

So.

[Stephanie]

Well, Alexia's narcissist party. That was a rough night for you, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

She. Oh, she's like, yeah, I was late. So I had the target on my back from the get go.

[Stephanie]

Okay, well, you were not only late, you were defiant about it. I wonder if you had fallen on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your sword a little bit. Yeah, well, why would I fall on a sword? That's stupid. You die. Okay, well, Stephanie's like, andy, what? Even if she would have walked in and said, sorry, done whatever, I still would have been livid because it's like, that's who I am. I'm like, hilarious. Will you tell my sisters I'm like, so awful to people. That would help a lot. Thanks.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she finalized her divorce. How was the co parenting? Martina recently said on Twitter that surrogacy is wrong and sometimes you can't have it all.

[Andy Cohen]

And I wonder, because both Logan and Elle are born via surrogacy.

[Ronnie Caram]

So what's your reaction?

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, I was shocked. I couldn't believe it at first. I had to ask Jody what all those letters meant. And when he said it was surrogacy, I was like, is this a joke? I'm surprised that she didn't even retract that. Oh, she took the comment down. We had numerous discussions about it, and I disagree with her 100% with that. And I got her to agree with this. Surrogacy is only wrong for trans people.

[Ronnie Caram]

So take the olive.

[Ben Mandelker]

We also. There was also a moment where Lisa was talking about, like, you know, like, is she gonna get engaged?

[Stephanie]

And she's like, well, everyone, big news.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she puts up her hands, like, look at the ring. And they're like, oh.

[Stephanie]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait, is there a ring?

[Stephanie]

No, but why did you hold up your hands?

[Ben Mandelker]

I was manifesting. It's like, you can't do that, Lisa. You can't hold up your hands like you're engaged. Oh. Oh, sorry.

[Andy Cohen]

That's the goal, Andy. That's the goal. Okay. It's the goal.

[Stephanie]

All right. Well, Julia, by the way, obviously, we got to see you ask Derek and to be the boy's godfather in Marbella. Well, most of us got to see it because two of you didn't go anyway. You asked an old queen to be a God godfather. Did you and Martina ever ask anyone to be the godmother?

[Julia]

No.

[Stephanie]

And was Adriana ever in contention to be the godmother?

[Julia]

No.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wow. Wow. That is like the deepest dagger in my heart. That is the deepest dagger.

[Michelle Collins]

And Gertie's like, didn't she write two character letters for you? She goes, exactly.

[Ronnie Caram]

Because when they were trying and needed a home study, someone to vouch for them, and I did it not once, but twice, and I recorded it with piano behind it. And I asked you to be the godmother of Bosky, so why could Adriana.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're doing so well. She was doing so well. She's like, that is so cool. I was there for you. I wrote letters for you. I asked you to be the godmother to my tiny, little horny dog.

[Ronnie Caram]

So unserious.

[Ben Mandelker]

Julia's like, that's a little bit different.

[Gertie]

That is her baby.

[Stephanie]

He's my baby.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love my dog.

[Gertie]

I love my dog.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love my dog.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh.

[Andy Cohen]

When Julie and Adriana first met, they were so obsessed with each other, they actually got friend games, which we.

[Ronnie Caram]

We all saw it coming back then, but now the honeymoon's over. So we see some clips of them starting to sour, their friendship, starting to source. And then we come back to the present, and Andy says, well, it seems.

[Andy Cohen]

Like Marisol And Alexia's friendship with Julia was the catalyst for the division in your friendship. Would you think that's fair?

[Kiki]

And Julia's like, andy, can I say something to give some clarity?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, he's asking me a question. He's asking me a question.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah, he asked her a question.

[Julia]

Clarity, clarity, clarity.

[Stephanie]

Hold on.

[Andy Cohen]

I did ask her. I did ask her.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, I feel like when she wanted to be friends with Alexi, I was fine with it. And Alexia wasn't instigating. But when Marisol got in the picture, Julia transformed herself, and she took a dive on the dark side. I didn't even know who she was. So, yes, there's something underneath it. Oh, wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Blame me for everything. What am I? Just a.

[Stephanie]

A lady with old knees who can't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Eat pasta for dinner and has to hang out with Steve every year and get married again? Why don't you take responsibility for your own behavior once Adriana?

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, maybe. Maybe enabling her to bring her true self out. And. Okay, so Julia finally gets to talk, and she's like, okay, I would like.

[Andy Cohen]

To say something that would bring clarity, hopefully, on why we are where we are with Adriana. Where we are in the Hamptons. Adriana and I slept together.

[Stephanie]

And everyone's, like, in the same bed, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

You shared a bed.

[Julia]

No, we slept together. Get tuna. Tuna. You know what I'm saying?

[Ronnie Caram]

I love that. They show next week, and Adriana's going.

[Andy Cohen]

I didn't cease anybody.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is what you do. You seduce people.

[Ronnie Caram]

So they banged. So do you think it was just that one time, or did they have, like, a. An affair?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. I think we're going to find out.

[Ronnie Caram]

But apparently they even do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know it looks.

[Ronnie Caram]

I read rumors that this is what it was gonna be, and I didn't believe it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, wow.

[Ronnie Caram]

That was actually it, so. But doesn't that even make it worse on Julia's part? Like, you slept with somebody and then you just ghosted them. That's not cool.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, so it makes it complicated. Well, we're gonna find out next week. It's a good cliffhanger for us. Thank you, everyone, for being here. We hope you have a wonderful weekend back on Monday with Potomac. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good one. Good. Good night. Good thing that Miami reunions always, always come strong. So we will talk to you.

[Ronnie Caram]

No punishment.

[Ben Mandelker]

No. Did not mean that.

[Ronnie Caram]

You're really not going to be able to get out of this one. All right, everybody, thank you for being with us. We'll see you next week.

[Andy Cohen]

Bye.

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