#3029 RHOSLC S604 Part One: Warm and Muzzie

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Episode: #3029 – RHOSLC S604 Part One: Warm and Muzzie
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: October 8, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the latest installment of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) Season 6, focusing on its explosively dysfunctional mother-daughter dynamics, memorable cast confrontations, and signature Salt Lake Housewives absurdity. Ben and Ronnie break down the notorious "Clarity Luncheon," business feuds, psychological family wounds, and truly classic Housewives one-liners, all while celebrating and skewering Bravo's wildest reality show. The hosts' hilarious recaps, personal reflections, and tangents (especially on mommy issues) make for a rich, engaging episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Introduction: Mother-Daughter Mayhem

[02:16]

• Ronnie introduces the central theme: “It is a toxic mother’s episode... If you've got mommy issues, this is probably not the episode to listen to. ‘Cause guess who else does? Me. And I was triggered.”
• Ben calls the main scene “the most captivating mother-daughter scene we've seen since Linda and Monica,” referencing another legendary RHOSLC blow-up.
• The hosts prime listeners for “a gift to anybody with mommy issues” (referring to the episode’s deep emotional turbulence and messiness).

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2. Clarity Luncheon: Lawsuits, Lies, and French Fries

[05:37–15:51]

Lisa’s Clarity Luncheon Fireworks

• The lunch is intended as a truth-telling, peace-making event, but quickly devolves into chaos.
• Lisa’s defensive spiral:
  • Ben: "Lisa set up this whole brunch like, this is the time to put it all out on the table... And literally everything that people asked her, she was like, I don't have to answer that. I don't have to. You suck dick for money."
  • Ronnie: “You're always hurling insults, Lisa. I mean, why do you have to insult... everybody?”

Whitney's Attempted Walkout

• Whitney dramatically attempts to leave: “I am triggered. I am leaving. I am going to the elevator… I'm removing myself until she tuckers herself out.” [07:24]
• The hosts mock her performance and note she never truly exits, only to return for group make-up.

Angie K. vs. Lisa: ‘French Fries’ & Franchises

• Angie and Lisa feud over their respective businesses:
  • Angie: “You own french fries, I own franchises.” [09:33]
  • Mary (deadpan): “French fries. She said, you do french fries, and I do franchises.” [09:39]
• Ben hails it as “the line of the season” with “levels to it.”
• The hosts dissect whether this is actually an insult and riff on the supposed fast food theme. [11:20]

Business Insults Escalate

• Angie calls Lisa’s son’s “Fresh Wolf” line a “C line.”
• Ben: “They keep dissing each other with good things. She's like, wow, your product deserves a Walmart part sponsorship.” [14:41]
• Heather interjects with a grand “women’s empowerment” monologue calling for unity and discouraging low blows. [16:18]

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3. Vulnerability Olympic Finals & Housewives Make-Ups

[17:48–21:58]

• A string of (slightly insincere) apologies and declarations of love:
  • Lisa: “I'm gonna be vulnerable. Vulnerable. Okay. I grew up different than everybody, so it looks different, but I'm vulnerable…" [18:40]
  • Ben and Ronnie both remark how the group’s long-standing feuds resolve, only to dissolve into praise and toasts almost instantly.
  • Ronnie: “I love this show. I love that 5 seconds ago they're like, fuck you, slut. You stupid whore… You're nothing… your kids suck too… and five minutes later, they're like, love you. I love you so much.” [21:40]

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4. Meredith’s Boutique: Caviar, Threesomes & Seth’s Wackiness

[23:46–24:38]

• Meredith plans to open a caviar and jewelry lounge, with Seth providing “wacky” comic relief.
• Ronnie quips about a family member almost "getting electrocuted" with their usual irreverent banter.

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5. Whitney Rose’s CEO-Pole Metaphor

[25:17–28:24]

• Whitney brings her stripper pole back into the house, framing it as a spiritual journey:
  • “After my turn into CEO, I forgot about what's really important. Okay, Leona Helmsley, calm down over there.” [26:01]
  • Ben: “Now I'm a CE-pole.”
• Ben and Ronnie lampoon Whitney's convoluted metaphors about flowers and self-actualization.

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6. Lisa & Bronwyn: The ‘Race to the Bottom’ Summit

[28:24–41:01]

• Lisa and Bronwyn meet at the Vita Tequila Lounge to discuss past betrayals and trade corporate-speak about accountability and forgiveness.
• Bronwyn confronts Lisa about making humiliating comments (e.g., “You suck dick for clothes,”) vs. her own mild comments about Lisa’s husband. [33:39–34:23]
  • Bronwyn: “That's what I'm saying about a race to the bottom, you know? Race to the bottom.”
• Both apologize, establish off-limits topics (husbands & children), and semi-sincerely agree to move forward.

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7. Mary’s Church, Family Feud, and Loss

[41:20–49:24]

• Mary visits her newly renovated church with cousin Big Joe; comic banter about a nail sticking out of a pew (“Stigmata!”).
• Emotional turn: Mary reveals her mother has died, recounts familial betrayals (her mother tried to seize the church, called police, got removed), and reflects on the lack of closure.
  • Ronnie: “She had her escorted out of the church and now she has been escorted off of the earth, you know, and she's like, yeah, it's full circle.” [46:21]
• The hosts deeply empathize with Mary’s damaged maternal relationship and the generational trauma in her storyline.
  • Ben: “My heart really broke for Mary during this. We've had glimpses… every time it's very sad. She was treated so badly by her mom.”

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8. Angie & Heather: Salon Business, Dusty Products & Amex Drama

[49:35–55:34]

• At Angie's Lunatic Fringe salon, she recounts Lisa’s assistant buying all of Lisa’s son’s products, revealing they’ve been gathering dust in storage.
• Ronnie mocks Angie for complaining about sales when the products aren't on display.
• The Amex fight: accusations of using (and repaying) other people’s credit cards, which the hosts lampoon as the quintessential Salt Lake City ‘mortgage’ insult.
  • Ben: “If the debt has been paid within the diss, it’s not really a diss, is it?” [54:15]

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9. Tangents & Classic Housewives Absurdity

Throughout

• The episode is full of Ben and Ronnie’s comedic tangents: imagining sit-com spinoffs for Lunatic Fringe, debating Greek currency, and riffing signature Housewives tropes.
• “You do French fries; I do franchises”—unanimously crowned the episode’s line.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ronnie [02:16]: “If you’ve got mommy issues, this is probably not the episode to listen to. ‘Cause guess who else does? Me. And I was triggered.”
• Ben [03:30]: “Linda and Monica… it was like a one act play. This one though was, this one was, was a doozy… I was clutching… I was also thinking about you, Ronnie, the entire time.”
• Ronnie [09:39]: “French fries. She said, you do french fries, and I do franchises.”
• Ben [10:16]: "'You do french fries; I do franchise.' That is… I’m putting that on a T-shirt."
• Ronnie [21:40]: “I love this show. I love that five seconds ago they're like, ‘fuck you slut, your kids suck too…’ and five minutes later, they're like, ‘love you, I love you so much!’”
• Lisa (impersonated by Ronnie) [18:40]: “I’m gonna be vulnerable. Vulnerable. Okay. I grew up different than everybody, so it looks different, but I’m vulnerable…”
• Angie [53:19]: “My salon is not dusty. Look around. Look at Jacké's station. It is clean as a whistle. No dust to be found.”

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 02:16 – Introduction, “Toxic Mother’s” theme, previewing key scenes
• 05:37–15:51 – Clarity Luncheon fiasco, business insults, Whitney’s walkout
• 18:40–21:58 – Housewives “vulnerability contest” and rapid-fire make-up/forgiveness
• 23:46 – Meredith’s caviar lounge plans and Seth’s comic relief
• 25:17–28:24 – Whitney brings back her pole (“Make America Pole Again”)
• 28:24–41:01 – Lisa and Bronwyn’s emotional confrontation at Vita Tequila Lounge
• 41:20–49:24 – Mary’s church, traumatic history with her mother, and family losses
• 49:35–55:34 – Angie & Heather at Lunatic Fringe, business shade and Amex drama

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Tone & Language

Ben and Ronnie’s signature irreverent, sharp, and affectionate snark toward the Housewives and each other suffuses the episode. Their humor veers from parody to sincere empathy—especially during the more moving emotional storylines—making this recap essential for fans who love both the drama and the comedy of Bravo's universe.

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Conclusion

This Part One recap of RHOSLC S6E04 by Watch What Crappens is a hilarious, incisive romp through one of the season’s most emotionally and comically charged episodes, perfectly capturing both the outlandish highs and genuine lows of Salt Lake City’s most infamous Bravo stars.

For more, listen to Part Two of the recap!

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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's the gorgeous Ben von Den Mandelka over there. Hi Ben.

[B]

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[A]

Welcome to the show everybody. It is a very special episode. It is a toxic mother's episode of Watch what Crap in Salt Lake City coming down the pike. Mom's not looking so great today. If you've got mommy issues, this is probably not the episode to listen to. Cuz guess who else does? Me. And I was triggered. I was triggered.

[B]

It's going to be a big moment. This was the most captivating mother Daughter scene we've seen since Linda and Monica, I will say. And that scene lives in my head like that was to me one of the most gripping, intense, fascinating scenes we've ever seen on Bravo. And then this one came right along and is right up there with it, if you ask me.

[A]

Well, I have to say, Linda and Monica at least seemed like they were having fun, you know, like they're that kind of mother who fight to the death. And they just like, they seem like that's so fun, you know, that they do it every day. They kick each other out, they steal each other's cars. You know, whatever's going on with them, they seem to be enjoying it. This was not as enjoyable to me. This, I mean, that was like a fun romp compared to this. Geez. Good Lord, Muzzy, muzzle that woman. Take it. Take, take it from her name and muzzle Muzzy. That's what I say.

[B]

Well, Linda and Monica, I don't think anything's really going to live up to that. Also that that scene was so intense and it was so long, it like literally had a commercial break in the middle of it and still kept on going because there was so much. And on top of that, you had Linda talking to like a, A plant in the corner. Yeah, the plant. And like eating guacamole for dessert. Like it was so unhinged and there was so much that they were unpacking. It was so. It was like a one act play. This one though was, this one was, was a doozy though. I mean, it was. I, I was, I was clutching. And I was also thinking about you, Ronnie, the entire time. I was like, ooh, Ronnie is going to be on one tomorrow. That's what I was thinking last night when I was watching it. I was like, I'm just gonna listen.

[A]

You know, my, my parental issues. I'm older now, I'm calmer. We've discussed it all. We don't have the issue. But let me tell you, those, those old scars, man, they start burning. You know when, when I see shit like this and it wasn't just bro, Mary talking about her mother. And then you've got that nitwit Brittany talking about her daughters and Whitney, of all people, whose storyline is finding a pole again, it's like, oh, Jesus Christ.

[B]

Is lecturing. Truly.

[A]

That's her storyline lecturing Brittany. I mean, the whole thing was just a gift to anybody with mommy issues. It's like there's just so much. But as usual, before we get into it, crappy hour is every other Monday we just did one this week. It was so much fun. 5:30 Pacific Time, Amazon Live. We're gonna be doing probably weekly. Cause we just love doing those. So we're gonna be doing those probably weekly starting soon. Those are every other Monday for now when we're not doing the Amazon Lives. And Those are at 4pm Pacific Time. You can find those on your Amazon prime channel or on the Internet or on your phone. Wherever you are, just come find the information in our link in bio over at our Instagram. Watch what crappens. I'm Ronnie Karam and that's Ben Mandelker. So that, that. Let's get to this episode, shall we?

[B]

Let's get into it. I mean, also, you know, for all the mommy stuff, there was just. This was a good episode actually. Like, I have to say I loved this episode because it was also. It gave us like a little bit of a breather from the non stop fighting. But then it also, it had the fighting too. And I thought there was like really like, you know, touching moments as well. And there was what seemed to be resolution that we know is not going to be truly resolution. But it, like sometimes with these episodes, it gets really tense when people just hate each other. You do sort of kind of crave them to just like understand each other so that they gave us that. But where we pick up, we're still in the thick of it. And basically we're at Lisa's Clarity luncheon, which I didn't realize it was called a Clarity luncheon, which. That's so funny. So basically Lisa is like blowing her gasket because of everyone coming for her lawsuits and Bronwyn saying, she asked you a question and you're hurling insults at her. I don't remember who she said.

[A]

I don't remember who asked you a question. Yeah, she asked you. Yeah, she asked you a question about being a crook and a thief and a liar. I love how they gaslight on this show. They're like, I just don't understand where you're so mad, Lisa. Like, what are you so mad about? That said, Lisa did have this huge thing where she's like, oh, yeah? You want to ask me a question? Then ask me a question. Okay. What about your business? You're a whore. That's the answer. That's the answer. You're a whore. Okay, does anybody else have any questions?

[B]

Yeah, that was the clarity. Because Lisa set up this whole brunch like, this is the time to put it all out on the table. Ask me anything and I will Answer anything. And literally everything that people asked her, she was like, I don't have to answer that. I don't have to. You suck dick for money. I don't have to answer that. At least I haven't a happy family.

[A]

You're always hurling insults, Lisa. I mean, why do you have to insult. Insult everybody? And then Whitney's like, I am triggered. I am leaving. I am going to the elevator. I cannot believe this. Whitney's. Whitney's terrible. Acting as she's trying to stalk off to the elevator is so fucking funny. And she never leaves, of course. And at the end of the fight, I was like, is Britney sitting there? They're like, okay, everybody, we're. We're made up now. Britney's there. It's like, okay, I guess she came back from the elevator. Well, if Lisa wants to clear up these allegations, then she should be listening to our questions. But she's an irrational toddler, and I'm not going to stoop. I'm removing myself until she tuckers herself out. I am triggered.

[B]

So then Lisa turns to Angie and is like, you said the nastiest things about my. Which is basically Angie making the joke that Lisa's the new Jen Shaw. And she goes, but, like, guess what? You only own one and a half Lunatic fringe salons. Which, by the way, that's like a perfect. That's like something. If you only own somehow one and a half salons, that's nothing to, like, turn your nose up about. So Angie's like, who told you that I own one and a half? That's not true. Yeah, the rest are franchised. They're franchises. She's like, let me help you count my cash. I have three stations that I own and also a pint of Tzatzaki Tzatziki. And the rest are franchises. It's a model I'm proud of.

[A]

Yeah, but you know what? Be honest about what you own. You're always like, I own ten salons, but you own one and a half. Is one and a half. She's like, I do not have one and a half. Why do I have to specify? Hello, everyone. My name is Angie K. I am Greek, and I own seven Greek salons.

[B]

One and a half. One and a half. There is no one and a half. You lie and you throw shit out there to insult me. And so Angie tells us. I finally figured out Lisa's tactic out. She lies to deflect and makes someone else to target. And everyone is tired of it. But you know what? They're not tired of me being Greek.

[A]

I love that she's figured Lisa out. It's taken a while. Was it really this deep of a mystery? I didn't lie. You know what? I didn't do it. Insult. Yo, you took it as an insult. You just took it as an insult that you own one and a half. Okay? And she's like, you have no idea what I own. So now they're fighting over how many businesses she owns. And Angie goes, you own french fries. I own franchises. You should stick to it. You should stick to it. I am Greek. And she's like, what do you mean? And Mary goes, french fries. There's like, french fries. She said, you do french fries, and I do franchises.

[B]

America's. Ooh, that was good. It was good. I was like that. I was like, is that going to be our, like, high body count hair of this season? I mean, it's early, but, like, you do french fries. I do franchise. That is. I mean, that's, like, got levels to it. I, like. I'm putting that one on a T shirt. Like, I'm going to wear that one out. I mean, well, I won't really wear that one out, but, like.

[A]

You do French fries.

[B]

I'll be like a sassy chart. I would be, like a sassy girl from 2005. Look at my statement T shirt.

[A]

I mean, it would be better, honestly, if she had, like, a potato farm or something. Or, like, did french fries. I don't know. I need it.

[B]

If you were, like, family, then that'd be impressive.

[A]

But, I mean, it's a head scratcher. It's a typical Angie one where you have to, like, scratch your head after and be like, wait, she does french fries? When did Lisa come out with the line of friend? Oh, you know what? I guess maybe she's talking about Wendy's, which is also a franchise. Oh, my God. Franchise fight is what she's saying. She's talking about you focus. So dumb.

[B]

You focus on getting fast food. I focus on running businesses or on another level. It's like you come into, like, you come in to buy the fries. I'm the one selling the fries. Like, you're the customer. I'm. I'm the manager.

[A]

I'm the fr.

[B]

It's actually, like, on so many levels. It's like, you're a fast food person. I'm a business person. You're a customer. I'm management. You know, you're. There's probably a good third one there, but I petered out.

[A]

I feel so dumb. I lost my. Didn't really get that. She was like coming at her about Wendy's, but yeah, that is good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But either, either thing isn't really a diss. I mean, someone has a huge Wendy sponsorship. That's kind of good. But Angie, having franchises, like having a business that's so successful that it's been franchised is also really good. So they're like dissing each other with good things, which I like about this show. They're keeping it positive.

[B]

I didn't think it was like a diss on the Wendy's sponsorship. I think it was more like Lisa has really made that a big part of her personality. Like, she doesn't even like the food in Italy because it's too fresh. She likes fast food. Like, that's her thing. I love fast food. I like going to Wendy's. I like going to McDonald's. We like going to Sonic. Like, we love fast food. So she's just saying, like, look, that's your thing, your lane is that you enjoy fast food like the trash box that you are. And I'm in management because only good people work in business management. Right. But like, that's. It was, it was cutting and it was, it's also cutting because Lisa has been trying to position herself as this mover and shaker. Like, she's hangs out with Blake Lively and Ben Affleck and all these celebrities and like, yeah, Tom Selleck is coming to the beat of Tequila Lounge. It's amazing. But she's basically like, you think that you're in the celebrity class. You're just, you're just a lady who goes to the drive thru that I own. That's kind of like the implication. And it's just, it hits Lisa like it was just a. It's just a. It was a real, it's a real humdinger.

[A]

Just like you. I'm super proud of what I created. Okay. Because it's not just us. It's not just us. Okay, well, let me ask you this. I invested in your son's line. I put it on my shelf to support Jack and your family. But you are doing nothing to help market it. But you're out trying to peddle yourself to get a partnership with Carystos, someone that I've been partners with for 26 years. And she's like, I didn't pedal it. They love my shiny pretty.

[B]

Ha.

[A]

They love that. And she starts doing her two finger comb of her hair. They love my shiny hair.

[B]

I love how first instinct is to like to elevate her hair. Instead of saying, no, I 100% do, like, market for Fresh Wolf and I do it all the time. And the fact that you don't see my hard work shows what a shitty friend you are. Like, that was like the obvious path forward, but instead she's like, my heart's pretty. So, yeah, of course I'm going to work with Carousest.

[A]

Why are you not promoting Fresh Wolf? Promote your son's Fresh Wolf. It is a sea line. It didn't really belong on my shelves in the first place. Kerastas belongs on my shelves.

[B]

It's actually a luxury men's grooming line, which is why I don't market it whatsoever to any sort of salons. She's like, is it just. Yeah, yeah, it is. Well, it belongs in Walmart. Which, by the way, I would be so happy to have a product that was sold in Walmart. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

They keep dissing each other with good things. She's like, wow, your product deserves a Walmart. Walmart part sponsorship.

[B]

Your product deserves to have a huge distribution across the country at affordable prices.

[A]

Mary did an interview recently and she was saying that Angie came up to her and she's like, I have some gossip. And she's like, what? She goes, I saw. I think it was Lisa. It was either Lisa or Meredith. She's like, I saw them in a Walmart and is this a huge diss? So funny. So that's her thing. It belongs in Walmart. You are very jealous. No, bitch, you are. You are jealous. You question every single fucking thing I have. Just fucking stop. Just fucking stop. This is ridiculous. I mean, now you're coming for my kids brand and calling it a list or C list. Like, oh, my God, we're at a point of no return. Nobody wants to hear the business being called a C level business. Can we just accept that that was not a nice thing to say?

[B]

My toddler, who happens to be part of the LGBTQ community, does say that the C word is back, but apparently you cannot use it with businesses. So I think that there are some apologies that are old Doug.

[A]

After Jug, after dag. It's a dag. That was a dag.

[B]

Hold on, hold on, everyone. I would like a word. Let me do a three finger point.

[A]

A monologue by Heather. A women's empowerment monologue from Heather Gay.

[B]

I'm going to do a three finger point to show how serious I am about this. I felt like you were absolutely, totally, unfairly attacked when we went camping and you weren't there. To defend yourself. And I understand your desire to clear your name, for you to go low and count her franchises, count her money. And then, Angie, you just flipped it right back, and you're telling her the business line that she developed with her sons is a sea line, and that's like the. Some sort of dis. We are here as women. We are here as entrepreneurs. We are here as people who've been held back by our own daughters while we wait for them to slowly get out of the house. And this is how we treat each other. I say no, ladies, we can be better.

[A]

Think about our ancestors back on the wagons, coming over in long underwear. Were they coming after each other for being too Walmart? Were they? Or for owning one and a half wagons instead of a franchise of wagons? What kind of women are we?

[B]

It was not a dis.

[A]

It was not a diss. It is a diss. You're doing it to be a diss, and I'm not afraid to say it to you. You don't need to go low, and you don't need to go lower. We all need to get in our new offices with ice mint walls and create books. Books that millions of little girls will read. For instance, inspiration.

[B]

I want to be clear. I want to be able to talk to you honestly. And I'm nodding my head to show that this is important to me. This was horrible. Horrible. And I'm not friends with you.

[A]

Horrible.

[B]

Let me just say Nelly wasn't horrible. It was horrible. It was horrifying, but mainly horrible. And I'm not friends with you because of your legal filings or because of your tequila. God knows it's not the tequila. I'm not friends with you because of your sponsorships. I'm friends with you because we have great times together. Being away from my daughters who hold me back year after year, this has not been a great time. I think you could probably say the same. Everyone at this table could say the same. That you are a fearless, strong person, and when you're on someone's side, you feel invincible. But when you're against somebody, you feel completely vulnerable. And I have felt a vulnerable.

[A]

Oh, for Christ's sake, someone pull a curtain. Jesus Christ. Is this a poetry slam? Take the mic. Take the mic. Lisa's like, you know what? But there's times that I felt vulnerable, too. Hey, hey, you guys. You guys watch me. I'm gonna be vulnerable. Okay? Vulnerable. Vulnerable. Okay. I grew up different than everybody, so it looks different, but I'm vulnerable. And catsunifers. You. I love You. I love you. And I'm so sensitive when it comes to you. Vulnerability, guys. Vulnerable. I'm being vulnerable. She's so ridiculous. Because when you love someone hard and when they do something to you, it hurts.

[B]

It hurts way harder.

[A]

And you know what? I thought we were in a good place. And then it happens at camp. You have a conversation at camp. It's really fucking hurtful. Hold on a minute.

[B]

This is vulnerability. Crying vulnerability. I apologize. I accept your apology in my vulnerable state. And I have all those same feelings about you. And even when I want to wring your little neck, I do love you, too. And that's why I do get emotional. And that's why I fight back as hard as I do.

[A]

And you. And you, Heather, I'm your biggest champion. And I really love you, Heather. You're extremely honest with me, you know, even though your last name is Gay. And I really don't approve because it's not in either of my religions. But you're extremely hard on me when you need to be. And I feel like you're only as good as the people you're around. You know what? Yeah. And that's why I had to get rid of my daughters, those good for nothing little sluts. So thank God. But it's from my heart. And I think you guys know I don't say things I don't mean. It's like I told Blake Lively the other day. I said, please stay. Do you have a headshot you could sign? Because I'll put it up in my premier Vida Tequila Lounge.

[B]

You know what? And like, Bronwyn, there's things I see in you and I acknowledge in you. Like, I don't understand about you, even if you don't think I see it. Like, I see that you could be a good person sometime. Like, you look like someone who might want to go to Wendy's. And I like that about you and Bronwyn's.

[A]

Like, you know what? Sometimes you may see a little frosty. But you know what? My love for you is Biggie sized. So, you know, go get your, like, limited shamrock edition. Wait a minute. Are you just doing a Frosty ad right now? Listen, I'm sorry, but it's hard to talk to the only person who hasn't taken this hint in season two and gotten hair extensions. I'm sorry.

[B]

Well, I want to say it clearly in front of everybody. I did not take any pride in hearing about this stuff. I just wanted you to stop talking about me. And I know that I hurt you, and I know that you hurt me. And when you're ready to say that, I think that's when we move forward. And to end that, I'll give it a triple. It's the fourth one, actually.

[A]

Okay. Can we raise a glass to friends that love hard and hurt hard, but I love each and every single one of you. It's important to love your fans, and I do. So cheers, everybody. They're like, cheers. I love this show. I love that 5 seconds ago they're like, fuck you, slut. You stupid whore.

[B]

You're nothing.

[A]

Your kids suck too. Your kids can't even do business. And five minutes later, they're like, love you. I love you so much. I love your posters. You had the best posters made. You are Greek.

[B]

I also love how when Lisa was saying, I love each and every one of you, they were showing all the women around the table and I was like, oh, yeah, there's that girl Amy. I forgot she was there.

[A]

He's smiling.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

So now let's go over to the Meredith Marks boutique where Seth can be wacky. It's wacky times with Seth. So they are gonna be opening a store. And Meredith is like, so here's what I'm thinking. The front part of this side should be just like this and super and tiny chic little jewelry store that people walk into. Or if you're Jen Shaw's posse, then you can shoplift from. And then they go through the back. A speakeasy caviar lounge. And in theory, we could go up a level. We'll go back 20ft for the biggest caviar lounge that Park City's ever seen. Watch up here.

[A]

We could do crazy things up here. Maybe threesomes. Maybe we could get Polly up here. Oh, Seth, that's an addict.

[B]

Put Chloe on my shoulders and we can see. Well, be careful. The light's up there.

[A]

Chloe, my other toddler's about to get electrocuted. Oh, my God. Then we go to Mary and Heather having lunch. And Heather's like, I'm parched. You know, I overdrank yesterday because I gave, you know, such a touching monologue. I took your tequila. Then I took Angie's tequila. And Mary's like, I don't drink tequila. I just. All I taste is medicine. Like, it tastes like hospital.

[B]

She's like, oh, so in hospital not only has a smell, it also has a taste. She's like, well, all smells have a taste. Like when you pass gas, someone say, oh, my God, my mouth was open. And then you. Never mind. Yeah, and it was like, I'm not.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

I'm not following.

[A]

Tasting farts. So then we go to Whitney and Justin for my favorite scene of the episode. I miss the old days when people would be like, whitney Rose has a pole in her house. So let's put the poll back up. Justin, it's been so hard being a CEO. I forgot about what really matters. What really, really matters.

[B]

That's why I'm a proud member of mapa. Make America pole again. So she also. I think she got it wrong. I don't think people were like, whitney. Whitney Rose has a poll in her house. Like, oh, God, we have to watch Whitney Rose on her pole in her house again. I think people. I don't think it was. People were excited about it.

[A]

I don't think one person in America was like, oh, my God, we really need pole dancing over women being CEOs. What is happening to this country? What is happening to this country? Women leaving the poll to become CEOs. What the hell? And I like that she's just so loosely using the term CEO, too. She's like, after My turn into CEO, I forgot about what's really important. Okay, Leona Helmsley, calm down over there.

[B]

Now I'm a CE pole. So she's like, well, everyone thought it was, like, the juiciest tea, and moms would gossip about it in carpool. And it was like, the weird around town, and I didn't care. It made me want to do it even bigger and morer and louderer, and I stuffed that away when I became a CEO. I forgot. And the failure of my business has really taken a toll on me, a toll that only a pole can fix. I need a pole for the toll. But now it's an abrupt sign from the universe saying, it's like God said, get back on your course. Stop trying to do things like business and stuff. Get on a pole.

[A]

I love that in Whitney's mind, God is like, whitney, this is a sign. Get back on the pole. And then God spoke to me. He spoke to me through a burning bush. He said, whitney, grab up, squeeze hard, slide down.

[B]

And then I like what she explains to Justin. You know what it's like? You know those flowers that, like, close in but then open up? I'm like, you mean flowers? You mean, like, all of them?

[A]

I was trying to think of what she mouths like a Venus flytrap. What is she talking about? And then they open up again like this, and she's, like, bending over her butt in his face. He's like, yeah, okay. Just trying to figure out how to work this L Wrench, honey. Yeah, but it's like I had to close off, and now that I'm coming out the other side, it's like that kind of flower when it closes off, and then it comes out the other side of the flower. Honey, just. This is. This is your husband. Talk to you. Get back on the pole. Just get on the pole. Okay? Please.

[B]

God said, get on the pole. God did not say make metaphors. So then we go. So then we go to Lisa and Bronwyn. So they meet at the Premier Vita Tequila Lounge, which I think we have to go to next time. We're in Salt Lake City, and Lisa's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, Ronwin, we're almost in the same jeans. I'm, like, not even joking. Bronwyn's wearing this crazy graphic print that's like. It's super utre. Like, it's like all these colors, all these images, and Lisa's just, like, in jeans. I was like, lisa, you are not about to wear Bronwyn's jeans. I'm Gonna tell you that right now. First of all, I'm not even sure that they were jeans. There were these. It was, like, flowy fabric with, like, bell bottoms and stuff.

[A]

Yeah, I wore the wrong pants because I have other. I'm liking, like, a crazy pants era, and I wore these to the recap today.

[B]

Let's see. Show some leg. Oh, look at that. That's fun.

[A]

I'm wearing my Bronwyn pants for the recap today, you know, to get into a little bit of the mood. So it's fashion, guys. It's fashion. So, yeah, we launched it in June. We had great parties during Sundance. Blake, Ryan. Ryan and Blake. Blake and Ryan. You know how it goes. Fun people on stage, which we love.

[B]

Bronwyn's like, oh, that is your favorite. And it's like. I'm like, is that a worthy thing?

[A]

But, like, yeah, she's about celebrities. She's like, oh, you sure do love your celebrities. Okay, so why am I at this. Why am I at this Costco, The Tequila Lounge? Because that's. It smells flammable in here.

[B]

Well, you know, I felt like there were, like, so many voices. Yes. Or die. And it was, like, hard to hear anything. So I thought it'd be, like, good if we chatted and kind of, like, figured things out in the presence of the Vita Tequila Lounge, which solves everything for everyone. You know, if Joseph Baldoni had been here, he could have totally fixed things with Blake. Mm.

[A]

Mm. Damaging things were sad. And you know what? I'm so sorry about those. And I think it really stemmed from you feeling hurt about our friendship and me feeling hurt about our friendship, and I don't wanna sit in that space anymore. Listen, I don't wanna sit in the space of losing. So it would be great if you didn't attack me in public anymore. What do I have to do? Okay, well, what's going on between you and I? I mean, we can be honest, Lisa. We can be honest. It's been been. It's been on purpose. It's been hurtful. It's been hurtful, Lisa.

[B]

Yeah, I think what happened was I said things that I didn't realize were, like, a big deal for you, which I take accountability for. And we see a flashback to, like, this ongoing issue with Lisa and this other family, and that was Bronwyn's ex's family. And yada, at least, is like.

[A]

Because she. Lisa, was friends with the dad. The dead dad's the dead father of the child's parents and knows them from church and stuff. So Bronwyn was like, you know, these parents fucked me over. And Lisa was. At first, it was. Lisa was like, oh, yeah, I totally feel for you, and I feel for everyone in this situation. But then later came out that Lisa was saying that the mom said that Bronwyn faked a miscarriage so that she never had to introduce the daughter to them. I mean, it was just. That was a whole. That was a whole thing. That was dark. That was crazy. Yeah.

[B]

So Bronwyn says. Basically says, I don't. I don't think it was your intention to hurt me. And I think actually, like, she's like, I want to clear this up. I just. You know, I had. When the way it began, like, I had nothing but appreciation, gratitude, and. And she's like, yeah, I thought that. And we see. We go back to that, like, really moving scene where they talked about it last season in, like, the nail salon. And Brian was saying how she, like, would have only shared it with her. And she's like, I never felt like more nothing other than appreciative that, like, you put your time and effort into this, into. And you risk putting your relationship with them in a really weird place by talking to them. For me, and I always was grateful for that. And, you know, I've handled it with the most important person, which is Gwen, and we're in a good place. And I think it's just. She goes. Ron goes. I think it's just like a race to the bottom right now, because, like, where we are, it's just. It's not who I want to be. And it's funny because this is like, Bronwyn's kind of, like, corporate talk that she sometimes leans into. And it's funny because Lisa then borrows it, like, five seconds later, as if it's like, Lisa's corporate talk, but, like, she just steals it from Bronwyn. But, yeah, she basically is like, I just. You know, I don't want to. I don't feel the need to defend myself or my life. And if there's a mistake that I made, I need to be accountable for that, and I need to be remorseful for that.

[A]

You know what? I'm accountable for doing the same thing. You know, like the Deliverables. I mean, it made me defensive, you know, but I had a pie chart. And John is my everything. He was, like, all orange, and there was only a sliver of blue, which is everything else. And the biggest trigger for me is when someone brings his name up. You know, it's really hard unless they bring up fresh wealth. Because that's a big trigger for me, too, because you know what? It really is fresh. And wolves are nice animals. So unless you're, like, in his business or in his bank account, like, it's hard for me to hear anything nasty about him, you know? And I think at Amy's house, that, like, set me off to a different level. It was like, a different level.

[B]

Yeah, but me saying maybe John is stressed is not the same thing as you saying, I suck dick for clothes. And that's what I'm saying about a race to the bottom, you know? Race to the bottom. Yeah. Well, a low comment is like, never, okay? I don't want to race to the bottom. You ever heard of that? That expression, it's so good, I just made it up. I don't want to make it low comments, okay? I just don't want to do this. I don't want to raise to the bottom bra when it's like, like, okay, well, you did just steal Race to the bottom from me, which I took from corporate America. And when I make a joke to somebody, I think it's, you know, as a friend. And then four years later, you say you suck dick for clothes. That's not really repeating it the same way I said it. Head nod. That's like twisting it to make it dark and say, I don't respect my husband. I'm a whore. Big head nod on that one. It's different. It's different. Big head nods.

[A]

Okay, you know what? I don't think you're a whore, okay? And I've never said that you're a whore, but that's what the insinuation is when you say I suck dick for money. Well, you know what? It's different when you're married, you know? And I would never call you a whore. You're not a whore. You're not a whore. You're a really slutty girl who got lucky. You know what? And God bless you. She's like, well, okay, here's what I want to do. I don't want to go back and parcel out every single thing, okay? You've been hurt by the things that were directed at you because they were directed at you. I was directing them at you, and they hit you. And so you got hurt. And I was hurt at the things that were directed at me. And so I'm sorry. So let's be friends, okay? Let's just.

[B]

Let's just.

[A]

Let's just be nice to each other. And she was like, okay, thank you. But you Know what? I hear everything you said. I mean, mostly nods. You just nodded, right? Did you actually say anything? Because all I can hear is nodding, like I'm feeling hypnotized. Right? Why am I tapping my head? Are you telling me to tap my head while you're nodding? Stop hypnotizing me, slut. Okay, you're racing to the bottom right now, okay? So try, try and move forward, please. Okay? Let's not talk about each other's husbands, okay? We married two pasty guys that most other people wouldn't touch.

[B]

Can we just be grateful for that number husbands, okay? Okay. And Todd is off limits and so is John. Yeah. Yeah. And full stop. Okay? Okay. So, by the way, I just want to say, I've never said anything about the kids. I never. I've never said anything about the boys. I haven't. I. I don't even know what's going on with Jack. Is he real? Is that just like a snowman? Was that a movie you were talking about? That. That movie with the snowman who came to life? Anyway, I just hope he's on his way soon, home soon. That's. I hope it's good. Just. Yeah. Jack comes home in like, less than two months. It's like, so soon. I hope he'll be okay because he's like. He's run so many Michelin star restaurants. I hope he's okay coming back to Salt Lake City because, like, that'll be an adjustment for him for sure. Yeah.

[A]

It's gonna be really hard adjusting coming back to Salt Lake City after spending so much time in glamorous Columbia. Okay, well, Gwen's still at home and she graduated. She's not left. She has not left home. Oh, wow, that's good. So how's that? Well, my mom's also living with me right now, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Can I stay here? Can I stay here? I would actually rather be at Vita Tequila Lounge.

[B]

I need to make peace with you because I've got a house full of dog shit, my daughter's boyfriend and his semen everywhere, and my mom's eyebrows terrorizing me while also wearing novelty T shirts. So I just want to know, can I just stay in Jack's room before he gets back from Columbia? Thank you.

[A]

Well, my mom was really upset the other day because Gwen and I had a disagreement and she was like, well, I'm sick to my stomach. Oh, you think it triggered her? Did it trigger her? Yeah, well, she said. She said to me that I think we should be grandparents before we're parents. You know, she was like, I'm so much more soft and open minded with Gwen than I was with you. And it really was an important moment for me for my mom to acknowledge that she's been really hard. Of course, then she called me a slut and threw a pan at my head and told me that she regretted ever seeing me again and tried to run me over with the car while I was in the house. Thankfully, it was a weak car, it's a smart car. So it just hit the curb and stopped. But it could have been ugly, Lisa. It could have been ugly. God, I love my mom. Gotta love her.

[B]

Yeah. And which is funny, this whole little story sort of seems to imply that the next time we see Muzzy, she might be like kinder and softer because she's sort of having her own epiphanies on the side. So the. Which is, by the way, does not happen.

[A]

Well, that's kind of what Bronwyn is doing, is spending the season trying to convince us that the people in her life don't hate her guts. Like Todd and, and Muzzy. And I think it's kind of a normal thing, you know, when you're in a situation where you have such a strong, you know, judgy personality growing up that you kind of try and compensate. Like they didn't mean it or they don't. It's kind of an abuse thing, right? Like an abusive behavior thing. When you deal with that a lot, you're just like, they didn't mean it or they love me. Surely they meant this other thing. And Muzzy's just right there to be like, no, I didn't mean anything else. I meant exactly, exactly what I said.

[B]

Tart. Tart. So Brawin's like, well, you know, like I've noticed as I've gotten older, there's things about myself I hold really rigidly like everything. And I like to control how people feel about me. And I like to speak for myself and I, I don't like anybody else to speak for me. And I, I wanna, I want correct words. And I'm, I'm really just trying to let go of all that. I'm like really, Robin? Rigid. I, I would never have, have never would have noticed by the fact that your lips are pursed so tight that they are actually caving into each other and just making one big closed mouth. I will give her credit though, for acknowledging this because if you think about it, there's, there's sort of like an element of Bronwyn that there must be a parallel to, like Erica Jane, in some weird way in terms of, like, tough mothers, complicated relationship with their mothers, and they have this, like, very big fashion style. They're trying to be, like, expressive and, like, be like, this is me, and take up space in that way. But they are both for. As being fun and fabulous as they are, they both are actually very rigid and tough. And the difference is that I feel like Bronwyn has some self awareness, whereas Erica's like, what is empathy? Erica's just starting to realize certain things.

[A]

You know, But I don't feel nothing for anybody but myself.

[B]

But then on the. On the flip side, Erica is realizing, you know what? I can just be a villain. And I just will. I will be that. And it's working out really well for her. Like, she's like, way more entertaining as just this cold ice queen who's just trying to understand the concept of empathy. Whereas Bronwyn, as she says, she's trying to control the way people feel about her. And that's always going to be.

[A]

Yeah, they veer off like. Like, Bronwyn is like, I want everybody to love my husband. And Erika Jane's like, oh, yeah, my husband's a criminal. I'm dating somebody named Baghdad Bob. All y', all, she doesn't give a fuck. But it did take her a while to embrace that. That side of herself.

[B]

I'm so happy.

[A]

Now they agree to be friends. And Lisa's like, yeah, you know what? I'm glad we could have this conversation. And no voices were raised. She goes, yeah, no voices were raised. That might be more impressive for you than for me because you raised your voices. I'm more cutting. And here you're more cutting the cheeks. So pretty much, I hate your guts. Yeah, I hate you, too. Okay, please leave. Okay. Have you been evicted yet?

[B]

Okay, see you soon. Yep, just me being cutting. Just me being me. Right? Okay. You can shout if you want to. I got some cuts in there. Say hi.

[A]

Forever Patch commercials. Here comes one right now.

[B]

And now we go to Mary, and she's with her cousin Big Joe, who I think we met a few seasons ago. And they go to her church. Her church is back. And she's taking a look. She's walking around. She sees the portrait of her grandma with Jesus, which is a classic. This.

[A]

I can't. Every time I see this portrait, I crack up. It's just her grandma sitting up there. And Jesus is like, hello, welcome. Welcome to heaven. It's like, yes, thank you. Taking my rightful place at Jesus's table in heaven, baby. So Mary's like, wow. So they got all the chairs done. Okay, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Are all of the chairs done? Are all of the. Did the benches all get done? Because. Wait, wait, there's a nail. Wait, there's a nail sticking out of this. But that could. Someone could bleed someone, like, oh, that'll stab someone.

[B]

You really don't miss anything. She's like, yeah, you miss. You have like, sir, Big Joe, you cannot just leave exposed nails in a pew, okay? That's not. That's some final destination shit. Mary's like. She's like, well, I'm excited to reopen my church. But, like, why is her nail sticking out? Like, you did all this renovation and forgot that?

[A]

He's like, I thought we were going with the whole, like, you come to this church and suddenly you've got stigmata thing. It's not on your back, Joe. It's not on your back.

[B]

Okay, so he basically, he's a general contractor and he spent a year doing the floors upstairs, basically. And she's like, yeah, he's family. And he milks it for sure. And so they sit down in a non exposed nail part of the pew and they're talking about the church to talk about Robert, first of all. They're talking about how his first steps were actually up there on the altar and in front of the whole congregation, and everyone cheered, which is actually kind of very special. And they talk about him, and she's saying that he's doing well, but now that she's like a lot closer with him, like, she knows. Like, she knows when he's like, falling off the wagon and everything. And Big Joe starts to actually tear up a bit because he feels bad for Robert and stuff like that.

[A]

Yeah. So then they start talking about her mom because her mom died. I didn't know that her mom passed away.

[B]

I did not know.

[A]

So they're talking about how just the way Mary tells these stories, she's like, yeah. And, you know, for some reason, my mom thought she was supposed to take over this church when grandma died. He's like, yeah, I have no idea why she would think that. It's like, yeah, she thought so. But, you know, marrying the grand, that was odd to both of us, you know, like, he wants to marry me. Like, I mean, he disobeyed what mama wanted. That's all he wanted. He wasn't trying to do anything extra. I mean, I just can't believe mom would get so upset that I married my grandma's daughter husband. I just don't get it. I know.

[B]

And then.

[A]

I mean, it seems pretty normal, so. Fucking looney Tunes. Just that. It's because I was sitting there and I watched a scene. I was like, nice scene. Like, it's just going normally. And then I was thinking about it later, and I'm like, could you think about what was actually being said during that?

[B]

I had the exact same thing. I was like, sitting there like, oh, my God, her church is back. This is so lovely. Oh, my God. Oh. Like, I can't believe the mom would say that. And I was like, you know, it was like, two years ago. We're like, what a fucked up. Like, she married her grandfather and she runs a cult, and now we're like, look at her, you know, love is love.

[A]

Like, God, I love the new benches in Mary's church. No, there's no more questions. Like, what happened to that church? And what did happen to all these people who claimed that Mary was, you know, impoverishing them and making them poor? It's like a couple seasons passed by, and everything. Everything just normalizes. We're like, oh, my God. I know. I can't believe anybody got mad at you for marrying your grandfather and stealing this church. Good for you, girl. Good for you.

[B]

A church that may or may not be a cult. But we're like, you know what? I don't know. I think we just sort of got to a place where, like, you know what? There's bigger fish to fry in our lives.

[A]

Everybody needs somewhere to go after school. Am I right?

[B]

Everyone? Every pot has its lid. Okay, so she. She talks about. They both are talking about how her mom really wanted power, and I guess it sounded like there was some sort of confrontation that happened at the congregation.

[A]

This is good. Yes. The mom showed up to the church during church and was like, this is mine. And, like, tried to take over the church. And then they called the police on her ass and had her arrested at the church. I mean, that. That's.

[B]

And I love how they try to be, like, polite about it. They're like, well, yeah, it was crazy. I mean, she showed up, and then she said what she said. And then the police were called, and they said, who do you want out? And someone was escorted out. It's like, was it the organ player? Who is it? Come on, give me some hints. Who was it? Was it. Oh, my God. It was the lady in the third row. Oh, I knew she was. Oh, the mom. What? I had no idea.

[A]

So she is saying, you know her mom. Now it's full circle because she had her escorted out of the church and now she has been escorted off of the earth, you know, and she's like, yeah, it's full circle. And I don't know how I feel about it. It's like a rollercoaster, you know, it hurts, but it's a close chapter now and feel like it was a storm or a battle that I had been in for all these years because she would put articles in the paper about me, she put lies out there about us. I mean it was always something telling people that I married my grandfather. I mean, well, that was true, but still, I mean, just horrible. And so she's talking about how when her mom walked out of her life, she actually has to mourn it all over again because, you know, she was mourning her mom. But I guess there was always a chance that they could make up or something. But you know, now she's dead and so she has to kind of re. Mourn her.

[B]

I have to say my heart really broke for Mary during this. Cause it just sort of, you know, we've had glimpse she's talked about her mom here and there and every time it's very sad. But like, you know, she was treated so badly by her mom. It sounds like it's like when she told stories, the reunion about how they grew up with money, they weren't impoverished, but her mom just like wouldn't buy food for the kids. They just had nothing in the refrigerator. And I just, I don't know, I just think about like all the hurt that she must feel and like that's. It's just brutal and like this like.

[A]

The whole situation is really just completely breaks your heart and sad. Yeah, it's lunatic. Because even if, you know, no matter what side you take on it, because it is salacious, like everything that's happened in this storyline is completely salacious. But even if you take the anti Mary side of it all, the fact that a child was even in the position to marry their grandfather is fucking crazy. Like, it's crazy what kind of family was, you know, what kind of family was that that she grew up in? So you know, whatever, whatever she may be now, you know, it comes from somewhere and it's.

[B]

But you know what I love, I love that from what we can see that Mary really is just like so loving to her son because like that's a cycle that could have continued on and like that like it's just, you know, it's just, it's sad that like that, that Mary just was not receiving love from her own Mother, like, I cannot even imagine. I come from, like, mother love privilege, where I have, like, lots of love coming from me for my. From my mom. And, like, that, like, she actually had to go through her life, and then now it's just. It's always gonna, like, there never was a resolution. Not that there had to be, but if she was on some level hoping for that, that's gone. And, like, that's. That is, like, incredibly tough. And. Yeah. But I'm so happy that she does not. She does not continue that forward and that she shows so much love to her son, which is why it's actually also heartbreaking that her son is in such a tough place, and she just keeps on trying to pour love into him, and they have such an uphill battle to go. But anyway, I was very moved by the scene ultimately, particularly the part about the nail in the pew. I was like, what?

[A]

Yeah. All right, so let's go over to Angie at Lunatic Friends. Is it the one we don't know? Yeah, we don't know.

[B]

Let's go from Mary pouring out her heart and the tragedies in her life and contemplating the sadness of certain parental relationships to Heather getting a perm. A test perm at a hair salon.

[A]

Yeah. So Heather comes over, and Angie's like, my cosmetology license lapsed a while ago, so I have to retake tests on mannequin heads. So what better mannequin head than Heather Gay? Sometimes I literally will knock her on the forehead to make sure she is a real person.

[B]

You know what I love?

[A]

Not convinced.

[B]

You know what I love about Lunatic Fringe is that whenever they do a scene there, like, Lunatic Fringe is like, an actual sitcom set. Doesn't it look exactly like an NBC sitcom that would air on, like, Saturdays between two different and golden girls? Like a show about a hair salon. And this is the set, and you enter from the top, but you can also enter from the side. It's just like a. Like, there is no fourth wall. It's just. That's it.

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They should make it one. I'm surprised it isn't a show yet. They're trying to do everything in Salt Lake City right now. How is there not a Lunatic Fringe show?

[B]

Let's. Let's write a multicam sitcom called Lunatic Fringe, and it takes place in. In the salon. And, like, we can have Jack. We have to cast Jack A. In it. By the way, speaking of 227, like, Jack A. Is like, the. The older person who's been doing it forever.

[A]

She comes in, she's like, oh, I am Greek. Mary.

[B]

Oh, Mary.

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Oh, Mary. I'm green. I've got some Hispanic opener.

[B]

I just. That was not a.

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That could be her tagline.

[B]

That's her framer entrance.

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Okay, that's the third time we brought up 227 this week.

[B]

Lewis, the news.

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Oh, no, now it doesn't count because you said it.

[B]

You said it. I'm sorry.

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Lunatic Fringe is canceled. Just kidding. Back to the drawing board. Back to the drawing board. Back to our premiere Vita tequila idea.

[B]

Yeah. So Angie is like. She's saying she's. She's gonna do this test perm. And she's like, oh, you will never believe what happened. I am sitting here with Sean the other day, and this really cute gal walks in, and I thought she had a hair appointment. And she said, hi, I'm Lisa's assistant. And I said, hello, do you have a hair appointment? And she said, no. Here's what I want from you. I am here to get all the fresh Wolf products today. And I was like, what?

[A]

And I was like, is this a joke? And she said, no. So I had to go down to the storage room and find the product. It was dusty. I love that she's got all the product in the storage room, but she's yelling at Lisa that it's not sold. Well, maybe because it's sitting in the storage room, for one thing. I can't believe no one bought that shitty product in the storage room.

[B]

I can't believe no one said, hey, can I see what products you may have in your storage room? It's a shock. So.

[A]

So she goes to get the product. It's been dusty. She packs it. And then the assistant says, lisa Venmo'd you some money for product. I don't want her money. But apparently the Venmo already went through. So she's. She gets a text from Lisa, and it says, $600 venmo son. I can send my cleaners to help. Sorry your salon is so dusty.

[B]

My salon is not dusty. Look around. Look at Jack a station. It is clean as a whistle. No dust to be found.

[A]

Oh, but she literally just said the product was all dusty. She's still so funny. So she's like. So I just said, you should probably have sent the $600 to other people that are claiming that you owe them money.

[B]

I didn't say you owed me any money. And my salon is not dirty. Your products are, though, because they've been sitting here for two years, so there's that.

[A]

So then she Throws her grenade back. Well, at least I don't have to borrow money to take vacations and pay it back after using a card I should never have used to begin with. What are you talking about? And aren't you the one being accused of using somebody's amex card? So now they're gonna start fighting over amex cards that they don't. Everybody in Salt Lake City just has access to an amex card that's not theirs.

[B]

Also, you can't, like, diss someone for, like, oh, you had to use someone else's money to go on vacation, and then you paid them back. It's like, well, if. If the. If the debt has been paid within the dis. It's not really a dis, is it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, wow. You're so poor, you can't even afford your own vacation. So you went on vacation on someone else's dime, and then you paid them back. It's like, that's.

[A]

It's very House.

[B]

Very acceptable.

[A]

It's like, the fight where people are like, oh, my God, you have a mortgage.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It was like on. Remember on Southern hospitality, when it was like, did you know that Emmy went and bought us all uniforms, and then she used her own money and then she reimbursed herself? Like, how could you do that?

[A]

Well, she. Store credits. Remember? Like, she got store credits for influencing or something. And they're like, she pocketed our money and used her free clothes to get our uniforms.

[B]

Still is, like, a reimbursement. So, yeah. So they. So Lisa has now accused Angie of using someone else's credit card that she never should have used in the first place and then paid them back, but solely to go on vacation. So now we understand Jackie's role in all of this, huh?

[A]

Yeah, I have my own shekels. So at that point, I just stopped responding. I am not gonna engage with her craziness. Are shekels Greek money? To stop to ask.

[B]

Shekels? I thought shekels were, like. I thought it's like Yiddish. It's like, oh, you have a shekel. I'll look it up. Shekel.

[A]

One Israeli new shekel equals, like, from 31.

[B]

Oh, yes. It's a Mesopotamian coin.

[A]

What is the currency in Greece? It's the Euro. Never mind.

[B]

What about the old Greek currency? Okay, drachma. The drachma, the drachma.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

Was it, like, sincerity? Sincerity?

[A]

I don't know. Look up old.

[B]

Old. I have. I play a lot of.

[A]

How far can we go back?

[B]

I have a lot of board games that take place in ancient Greece and it's always like use one sesairsti or whatever. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, I just see the drachma.

[B]

Ancient Greek.

[A]

Yeah, it was through the holiness Hellenistic period up to the Roman period. Yeah, the drachma. Isn't that what you said?

[B]

Yes, and the original thing said drachma was the was the currency from 1833 until like the euro came around. But now it's saying also it was ancient Greek. So like lots of drachma.

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Yeah. Well now it is an American express card from Greece with a Greek flag. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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