#3043 RHOP S10E03 Part One: Chin Checks and Balances

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens #3043 — RHOP S10E03 Pt. 1 “Chin Checks and Balances”

Date: October 20, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Podcast: Watch What Crappens (Wondery)

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Overview

Ben and Ronnie, in classic comedic form, break down the third episode of Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10. The main theme revolves around the continuing “try-hard” energy of Kierna (Karen alternate), attempts at creating drama from lackluster origins, housewife taglines, and the emerging skirmishes and alliances. The hosts hilariously evaluate each housewife’s storyline, the petty fights about off-camera friendships, and laugh through new side plots of “chin checks,” luxury hiking, and the dreaded generational trauma of GoGurt.

Tone: Sarcastic, silly, and affectionately mocking — firmly in the Watch What Crappens tradition.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Housewives Tagline Breakdown (07:01–10:32)

• The episode kicks off with the hosts reading and roasting each Potomac housewife’s new tagline.
  • Giselle: “When the nest is empty, it’s time for naked, grown and sexy.”
    “Why do I feel like Giselle’s not gonna be doing any of those things?” – Ben (07:13)
  • Wendy: “I put the high in higher education.”
    “You also put the high behind bars.” – Ronnie (07:45)
  • Stacy: “Some people believe the lies, but still I rise.”
    Ronnie and Ben joke she’s swiping Maya Angelou, and they want her to pay copyright.
  • Kieran: “Beauty is my business, but getting you together is my specialty.”
    Hosts actually like this one, noting it’s “good wordplay.”
  • Tia: “You can only clutch pearls if you have them. Darling, I have loads.”
  • Angel: “Hell hath no fury like an angel scorned.”
    Hosts immediately joke she backs down anyway.
  • Ashley: “This cherry blossom is ready for her second bloom.”
    “Ashley, you’ve been blooming for a long time... TikTok dance count as a bloom?” – Ben (10:06)

Memorable Quote

“I think hers should be, ‘I have a new billboard, and you bill be bored.’”
— Ronnie (08:27)

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2. Karen vs. Wendy: Friendship Fight (17:48–39:18)

Setup

Kieran (Karen) and Wendy meet on a park bench (Ingmar Bergman/spy-movie vibes), and Kieran accuses Wendy of being “a TV friend” who ignores her off-camera.

Host Analysis

• The fight is characterized as deeply petty, stemming from a lack of attention at a brunch and not being checked on during “bad diarrhea.”
• “If you run into your co-worker at a restaurant, you’re not necessarily saying, ‘Oh my god, come sit down at the table with me.’" – Ben (22:09)
• Ronnie compares Kieran’s energy to Kristen Taekman desperate for Bethenny’s attention (“Who even are you?”).
• They berate the entire concept of manufacturing drama from off-camera “friendship” slights, calling it “Kristen Taekman energy” and saying, “all that counts is Wendy is nice to you on camera, that’s what matters. It’s TV.”

Quote Highlight

“Why aren’t you as good friends with me off camera? I’m asking you on camera.”
— Ben (20:18)

Timestamps

• Karen launches into grievances about who was first to plan the Preakness event and is clearly upset Wendy got the “First Lady of Maryland” invite (25:54–29:55).
• Flashbacks to past fake friendship moments and stale brunches at Kieran’s apartment.
• Final verdict: Karen is coming in too hot, Wendy laughs it off (“this is what she’s bringing to me, I don’t know what to do with it” – 37:15), and the “fight” fizzles with more cackling than confrontation.

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3. Housewife Side-plots & Family Scenes

Ashley’s Spin Class Story (11:18–12:09)

Ashley attempts to rebrand post-divorce empowerment as “going to spin class,” which Ben describes as a reach.

• “She’s trying to turn going to exercise class into an empowering statement of her womanhood... It’s fine. You’re just going to an exercise class.” – Ben (11:58)

Stacy’s Pageant Mom Moment (12:17–15:22)

Stacy drags daughter Arabella to pageant training but hijacks the walk herself to relive her own glory.

• “Are you really there to teach Arabella? Or are you just having your moment on camera?” – Ben (13:39)
• Classic “stage mom” behavior, as Arabella is described as being there just to “please” her mom.

Angel’s Family: GoGurt Trauma & Orchid Rant (39:20–44:32)

• Angel’s son Bobby blames his distaste for yogurt on “too much GoGurt as a kid,” sparking a hilarious riff by the hosts.
• Long comedic tangent about how orchids are “loser flowers” meant to make you feel like a failure, and the symbolism of recurring orchid trauma.
  • “They don’t like me. They truly don’t like me. They’re getting me a failure plant.” — Ronnie (42:54)

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4. “Chin Check” Drama: Language and Housewife Conflict (44:47–46:50)

• Angel is re-offended by being accused of “chin-checking” at a previous housewives event.
• Hosts debate meanings: Is it physical? Is it urban dictionary? Either way, they mock the tendency to rehash, escalate, and get offended anew by old Housewife lingo.
  • “She’s forgiving something and then waking up and getting upset all over again ... that’s what you’re supposed to do. So welcome to work.” – Ronnie (45:59)

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5. Crappens Classic: Obsessing Over Minor Cast Members (46:50–54:50)

• Jassy, a returning “friend of” housewife, is welcomed back for lunch with Stacy, leading to more shade about minor football scandals and messy inter-housewife friendships.
• Several minutes are spent trying to recall if Jassy’s boyfriend made it into the NFL, which team, and if there was a cheating baby scandal, with both hosts googling live.
  • The “word on the street” is about Giselle having a new boyfriend, and the hosts ridicule the idea that anyone’s hiding this given it’s widely reported online.
  • “It’s Google. You like to Google.” – Ben (54:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |---------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | 07:13 | “Why do I feel like Giselle’s not gonna be doing any of those things?” | Ben | | 08:27 | “I think hers should be, ‘I have a new billboard, and you bill be bored.’” | Ronnie | | 20:18 | “Why aren’t you as good friends with me off camera? I’m asking you on camera.” | Ben | | 22:09 | “If you run into your co-worker at a restaurant, you’re not necessarily saying, ‘Oh my god, come sit down with me.’” | Ben | | 29:55 | “Let’s settle down on this First Lady of Maryland stuff... this is not like Julie Andrews invited you to Camelot.” | Ben | | 37:15 | “The level of hand-holding Kieran needs in a friendship exceeds where I am as a grown ass woman...” | Wendy (quoting Ben) | | 42:54 | “They don’t like me. They truly don’t like me. They’re getting me a failure plant.” | Ronnie | | 45:59 | “That’s what you’re supposed to do. So welcome to work.” | Ronnie | | 54:48 | “It’s Google. You like to Google.” | Ben |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & Taglines: 05:57–10:32
• Ashley Spinning Empowerment: 11:18–12:09
• Pageant Mom Walk: 12:17–15:22
• Karen/Wendy Park Bench Showdown: 17:48–39:18
• GoGurt & Orchid Tangent: 39:20–44:32
• Angel “Chin Check” Chat: 44:47–46:50
• Jassy Returns, Football Snafus: 46:50–54:50

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Conclusion

Ben and Ronnie highlight the perennial absurdities of RHOP: the way minor social sads devolve into multi-episode feuds, the Housewife art of spinning nothing into a storyline, and the comedy gold of language misunderstandings (“chin check,” “premium rises”). Through relentless jokes, pop culture riffing, and mock-serious analysis, the podcast deconstructs both the episode’s events and Bravo’s formula for drama.

Fans who missed the episode will come away understanding alliances, conflict setups, and why half the group is currently feuding about brunch invitations and state government spouses. Above all, they’ll get the affectionate, irreverent, and sometimes savage humor that defines Watch What Crappens.

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End of Part One Recap.
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[A]

Will. Will at least one of her fights be interesting?

[B]

Yes.

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One of her nonsensical, stupid fights. Can they be interesting? No, they're really not. But it is interesting watching her try over and over. And you know what a for effort.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I love a housewife that takes notes. You know, she heard the audience, and the audience basically last season was, listen, why is Kieran the housewife? And she said, I'm gonna step it up. And she also clearly told Greg, listen, I don't. I don't know what you're thinking, but, like, you either get on board New Kierna or you don't, because this train is leaving the station. And he came this. This episode, and, like, he was all smiles, acting like he was actually enjoying the experience, which he wasn't, and trying to be all silly. So she's sort of getting things in shape over there, I guess.

[A]

Well, she brought her mom, and her mom is the most important thing, because her mom was like, I'm not gonna stay in this party. Like, why would I stay here? I'm not gonna be here with these trifling, you know? And then she did stay and just judged the whole thing, which I loved. She stayed and stood by the fireplace and just gave looks to everybody. Like, at one point, she was even waving her hand like, oh, no, no.

[B]

I know. She's like a school chaperone. She was.

[A]

She's like, do not make me step in there. So funny. She's a great addition. Bring. Ditch Karen or bring the mom. That's who I know.

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I think that's. I think that that would be a good direction.

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Yeah.

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So shall. Shall we start in with our taglines for this?

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Let's do her taglines, everybody. Giselle is first. When the nest is empty, it's time for naked, grown, and sexy.

[B]

Why Do I feel like Giselle's not gonna be doing any of those things?

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Giselle's not gonna be doing anything but stirring shit. That's what she does. You know, I liked her line in this episode when she said, I didn't. These girls say such stupid things. I don't even have to make stuff up anymore. Which I liked.

[B]

Wendy admitting. Yeah. She's like, I could just. They could just let her rip. Wendy's line is, I put the high in higher education. Oh, that already didn't age so well.

[A]

You also put the high behind bars.

[B]

You put the high end mug shots. We've seen the pictures.

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So, Stacy, some people believe the lies, but still I rise.

[B]

Jeremiah Angelou loves. Loves this.

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Listen here, angel loser. You can't just steal from Maya Angelou. You better pay. You better pay the copyrights.

[B]

Kieran's is. Beauty is my business, but getting you together is my specialty. That one's pretty good, actually. I think that's a. That's a. That. That's a good. That's some good word play there.

[A]

I think hers should be, I have a new billboard, and you bill be bored.

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You build.

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Rochelle.

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Lolly steps in. Don't worry, I will do line. You bill be bored. So wait, I got this.

[A]

I can do this. You will be bored.

[B]

You bill be bored.

[A]

So then we move over to Tia, who's like, you can only clutch pearls if you have them. And, darling, I have loads.

[B]

Great. Love, Tia. I'm just happy with anything she says.

[A]

She.

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She could have been like, I went.

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To the supermarket the other day and I found something that was on sale.

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I'd be like, oh, fabulous.

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Tagline Data's horrible creatures. The end.

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Angels is hell hath no fury like an angel scorned.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we see that in today's episode as you immediately back down and go after whoever. Care to watch.

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You too, right.

[A]

Angel should have been. I will charge you to go outside. Is her business of, like, making people pay to go on hikes, which is still the biggest ripoff business I've ever heard. So then is Ashley, or if you.

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Come for me, if you come for me, I'll say, take a hike.

[A]

This cherry blossom is ready for her second bloom. Come on, Ashley. These lines came after your second bloom. Okay? You missed it. You missed the boat.

[B]

Ashley, Ashley, you've been blooming for a long time. You've been having lots of blooms. I mean, you had the Luke Gilbranson bloom. You had the Ralph bloom. You had the Beavis and Butthead bloom. I mean, there's been a lot of blooming.

[A]

Blooming doesn't only have to do with men.

[B]

Okay, well, I feel like with Ashley, it does, because what else is she doing? It's like, oh, she is. Does the TikTok dance count as a bloom?

[A]

She's singing. She's drag kinging. And as we learned today, she's going to exercise classes.

[B]

Michelle Lolly returns. She is dragging.

[A]

She is dragging. So let's see what the ladies are up to today. Angel. Angel's talking about her new house that she's shopping for with Bobby for this TV show that they're shooting that we're watching, and she wants to spend 7 million. And he's like, God damn. And then we go to Ashley. He's like, that's a lot of hiking trips. It's a lot of luxury hiking trips in Colorado.

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He's like, you know I'm not still playing football, right? Like, my income is done for my life. I'm done.

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Let's save some money. Let's save some money. Yeah.

[B]

Ashley is at spin class. It looks like she's at, like, a spin yoga class, which I don't even know how those two concepts work together, but she's saying, like, since I got divorced, it's, like, really something. I'm raising who I am, the woman that I am right now. And, like, if there's, like, a class of, like, other women, that really activates my brain. I just want to be the fastest and the strongest and the best. So she has. She's going to exercise class. She's trying to somehow, like, turn going to exercise class into, like, an, like, an empowering statement of her womanhood and independence after divorce. But I'm like, that's fine. You're just going to an exercise class. You're going to spin class. I thought that was interesting.

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She's like, I'm a woman, and now I'm doing what I want to do. I'm going to spin class. I was like, you've always gone to spin class. I know.

[B]

I know. You were going to spin class with Michael also. But now I'm better than everyone else.

[A]

Now we go to Stacy and Arabella, who's taking a pageant class with, like, a beauty queen lady, and she's teaching her to walk. And can I just tell you, Arabella looks like her father, and she does not want to do this. It looks like you're. It looks like you're making the ex husband try and do it. And he's like, I will do this because I want to please you, but this is the only reason I'm here. Please take me for cookie after. Thank you.

[B]

Yes. But it's all worth it, because we really see the purpose of this is not for Arabella to get pageant experience. The purpose is for Stacy to relive her pageant experience because the instructor is like, okay, now walk. Walk. Okay, one, two, head up, whole way. Beautiful. Okay, let's say she's like, do you mind if I step in? I just want to show her what. What. What genes she comes from. Okay, here we go. And then, of course, Stacy fully takes the stage and does her pageant walk and does it, like, perfectly with that, like, additional veneer of QVC experience and.

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The pigpen cloud that's. That's following her around of breath, because that's all I can think of. You see, these ladies, that. That's what they do to somebody. They make. They make stinky breath a thing. And now that's all I see when she walks. That's not fair. That's not fair. I hope they have a lot to answer. Answer for. At the reunion. I almost said answer for. Answer for. I thought they have a lot to answer for at the reunion because that's.

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Wow. Well, I'm sorry that this pageant scene was clouded by the breath. A breath cloud. But anyway, yeah, Stacy does it. And I always think it's funny when this happens because it's clearly like, are you really there to teach Arabella? Are you just having your moment on camera? Because this was gonna come back in therapy in about five or six years for her, just so, you know, like, yeah. Mother never even let me do my pageant classes. She always would take the stage. I mean, we all know this is where it's headed.

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That's why my parents put me in bowling league, so they could just watch me rise to the top and live their dreams out, which never happened. We always won the trophy where the person has just dropped a. A bowling ball on their toe and they're grabbing their toe, they're like, ow. And that's the trophy.

[B]

That's a trophy.

[A]

We were last place every year. Yeah, it's a last place trophy.

[B]

Wow. I think I told you the story about Ruth the bowling ball, right? I think I did at one point, but that was my finest moment in bowling is when, you know you're choosing a bowling ball. And then I found a ball at the alley. It just said Ruth on it. And I was like, this is my ball. There's no more to that story. I just love to. I just love to Remind people that somewhere out there, there's, like, a red. It's like a maroon bowling ball somewhere in, like, Mount Kisco, New York, that just says Ruth.

[A]

Yeah, my meemaw's was Ramona, because that was her name. Ramona. And so there's a bowling ball out there that said Ramona, too. I like to bowl with hers. My fingers got too big. Know what? It was all over. So then, yeah, she's just living out her dreams. And, you know, she is, because she's brought her gay there to be like, yes, you're walking, right? Yes, you're doing it great. So. But I actually.

[B]

Actually, I. What I love about AJ Is he's a little bit. Not that at the same time, because, like, once she does, her whole thing is like, okay, okay, you ready to come back down? You ready to take your seat? This is not your moment. Like, he's kind of like, okay, Stacy, let's not be ridiculous.

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He's like, I'm working on my next meal ticket. Your daughter. Sit down. Sit down.

[B]

Take a seat.

[A]

The new premium rises. Not the premium. That's insurance. Those new supreme rises. Sit down.

[B]

Premium. New premium rises. UK slang, everyone.

[A]

The latest Ryan Murphy Show. The newest premium rises is between Flo and Jake from State Farm. Who's gonna win?

[B]

Monster. Monster. Colon. Flow. Played by. By Maggie Gyllenol.

[A]

No, it'll still be Stephanie Courtney. You cannot fire Stephanie Courtney. She will always survive.

[B]

I'll play my own Ryan Murphy bio. I'll do it. But why is Jessica Lang in this? I don't understand that. Sorry. I needed a gay icon.

[A]

She's playing Jake from State Farm. Stop calling me, please.

[B]

That would be Ron Murphy's move. He's just get all the old gay divas, just line them up and put them in, like. And Gene's smart as the gecko. Like, what?

[A]

Yeah, so they FaceTime papa so he can see the final walk through. And so poor Arabella has to do it. Arabella, show your daddy.

[B]

Show him, Arabella. Show him.

[A]

And she's like, you know, we're not telling Arabella that we're back together because divorce is hard. So we're just lying to her. We know, Stacy. That seems to be what you're being accused of all season. I love that she's like, how dare you accuse me of being a liar. I'm lying to my daughter for another season. It's been fun.

[B]

I can't wait for the twist to come out. That. That, like, what's his name again? Thiago? Thierry. Whatever. I Can't wait for. For Tiamo. Timo. Timo. I can't Temu. I can't wait for the twist to be that, like, her, her husband and Arabella already. Like, he's already told Arabella, and they're just actually pretending. He's pretending that he hasn't told her, and she's pretending like she doesn't know just because it's too hard for Stacy to deal with. Like, all this time she's trying to protect them, but they're protecting her. Right. Wouldn't that be so sweet and entertaining?

[A]

Sweet turn. But Arabella's extremely smart, so she knows things that are clearly not fine. She knows things are clearly not final. So, yeah, they FaceTime the dad, and he watches and he's like, oh, great. I'm glad you found ways to waste more of my money. And then we go to Kierna and Wendy. And now this is a Salt Lake City scene if I've ever seen one. I mean, what are you two doing? Something illegal. This looked like Deep Throat right here. I mean, she was sitting on a bench by the river.

[B]

And Wendy, John Carre is happening in this scene. What? Where is the briefcase? It was like somewhere between, like, an 80s, like, Cold War spy movie, but also like Ingmar Bergman. Because I remember I saw like, one Ingmar Bergman movie where there was a couple, and they were sitting on separate benches, but talking to each other. And I was like, this is so artsy and spy at the same time. What is happening here? And it's all shot from behind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who was the operative here?

[A]

And Wendy keeps showing up in completely inappropriate outfits, like, literally everywhere they are. And I don't know if it's because they were arrested for the fraud and all that stuff, but I'm just like, oh, my God, that's just so much money you're wasting for a park bench scene. You know what I mean? I know you can never wear that again. I know you're on tv, but you're on a bench at a river. It's not even a nice river. It's like a. It's like the shitty east river or something, you know? And Karen is sitting there, you know, we only see her back. And then Wendy comes in this crazy looking jumpsuit, like this pastel romper thing, and sits down. Then Karen, it just kind of turns to her, starts talking to her side. Like, just face that. She's reading a newspaper. She's like, okay, let's get right to it. Let me start by saying this. I wanted to bring it Outside of a party setting for us to have a conversation, we can discuss issues that I feel we're having. Do not look at me. Look straight ahead.

[B]

The eagle has landed and the nest is under the bench. So she says that she feels like Wendy just wants to be TV friends, you know, and off camera just felt a little phony, like didn't feel like a genuine relationship and that like the. Her behavior is not as consistent with someone who has ever liked her. So naturally, to get to the root of why they aren't as good friends off camera than they are on camera, she has decided to address this on camera.

[A]

Yeah, she wants to only confront her on camera about their camera.

[B]

Why aren't you as good friends with me off camera? I'm asking you on camera.

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[A]

So, Karen, I know you've watched a lot of Housewives shows. I know that we'd all prefer Housewives shows where everybody's friends and that's how we know each other. But we know that's a bunch of bullshit. And when people bring people on as friends, it doesn't mean they're really friends. You know, we know that Wendy's not your really friend. We've always known. Especially when Wendy was like, I'm not staying in the same room as Kierna. They'll know and didn't come check on you when you had diarrhea, which I don't remember. I mean, I don't know if you remember it, but that was an entire storyline. That was a very huge storyline. That was Kieran's first victim storyline was like, no one checked on me and I had really Bad diarrhea.

[B]

Thanks for watching on her about diarrhea. It's like, not even a joke. That was her storyline. Yeah, she. The other thing is, like, they're your co workers, I feel like, more than friends. And so you can be friends with your co workers, but, like, if you run into your co worker at a restaurant, you're not necessarily saying, like, oh, my God, come sit down at the table with me. You're good. You're trying to kind of maybe have, like, some separation. I mean, I do think that Wendy's an. But I also think that Kieran is, like, really trying to make this a thing, and Wendy just doesn't have the time for it. Wendy, you know, is. Is like, Kierna is. Is this someone on her show who's not been terribly effective. And, like, also, I feel like Kieran kind of has kid sister vibes on this show a little bit. Sort of like what Ashley's initial role was like. So, you know, I kind of, like, understand Wendy being kind of frosty. I mean, it's not nice. It's not nice that she's.

[A]

You know what this is? This is Kristen Takeman energy from Real Housewives of New York. When Bethany came back on, and she was just like, why would you be friends with me? Why aren't we friends? Aren't we friends? What are you. Why are you putting me in a little box? And Bethany's like, I don't have time for this. Okay. Who are you? Who. Who even are you? Like, I don't even know who you are. Why am I being forced to fight with this new person? Yeah, it's giving those vibes. And yes, Wendy can be an asshole. Everybody knows it. But it's like, Kieran is so late for this that it's like, we already knew Wendy was an asshole. Like, we've. Yeah, Wendy's been an asshole, and now we accept Wendy as the asshole that she is. And so now we kind of like Wendy being an. If that makes any sense. Maybe not like it, but especially when you're trying too hard to have fights with her, because really, all that counts is Wendy is always really nice to you on camera, especially when no one else really was Karena. And, you know, you should be grateful that someone's nice to you on camera. It's on camera. That's what matters. It's tv.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And also, I don't love fights that are about things that happen off camera. Like, unless that's, like, something really, really, you know, strong. Like, Scandal was something that happened off camera, that's fine. But if it's like, you know, you're not as nice to me off cameras, on camera, I mean, I mean, that's okay. But I don't. I think that Kieran was coming in really hot on this issue. She could. I think her vibe should be more like, hey, I want to check in. Because I kind of feel like when the cameras aren't rolling, I feel like we have a different vibe. And I just want to know, like, if there's something that maybe like, I've done that made you not so, like, made you want to act differently around me. I don't know. But she's coming in, like, accusatory. Like, you're different to me, you're different. And I don't like this. And you're condescending and. Well, first of all, Wendy's always been condescending, so that's your fault for not realizing that until now. But also, it's like, you're not going to get in if you're trying to mend a friendship. I don't think you're really gonna get anywhere by sitting someone down and then just like pointing a finger at them and telling them why they suck.

[A]

Also, it's like week three and you haven't shut up about this and you've given us nothing that's really, you know, condemnable. It's like, I don't care about. First of all, you got mad that she didn't say hi to you while she was giving a speech, which is weird. And then, I mean, you've given us nothing to hang our hats on. You know what I mean? And so even with current circumstances going on, I have to be team Wendy because you're just trying too hard. It's ridiculous.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. And it's like she. Her big thing is that she interrupted, she sat down in a conversation and then was upset that she was not, like, being addressed more. Which, I mean, you know, if a friend sits down, you do try to sort of like, do sort of non verbal things to welcome them in, but at the same time you went and like joined a conversation and then you're like, shocked that you didn't become the center of it.

[A]

So, yeah, weird.

[B]

That's on you.

[A]

So now the new thing is she's like, I don't have shit to do with this, but are you doing Preakness? And Wendy says, yes. But wait, Kieran is like. Because I planned on hosting for the Black Eyed Susan event as well. And either we could come together here or we could have two separate events here. Because I did the legwork of trying to make this an event. And Wendy goes. I did the legwork. And first lady Dawn Moore, her team reached out to me, which, oh, my God. Dawn Moore's at home. Like, oh, Jesus.

[B]

She's like, what? I messed that one up.

[A]

She's like, this has been a rough two weeks for me. Okay? Just please leave my name out of your mouth. Can we have that. Edit it out. Can we just edit that out of the peacock person?

[B]

Yes. She's like, let's have dawn less. Don L. No, please don't mention me right now. Thank you very much. But I also love, you know, when Kieran's like, I put into leg work to make an event for this Black Eyed Susan thing. I love that. What ultimately winds up being is like. Like fruit salad in her apartment at the table where there's not enough seats for everyone to sit at. It's like a very, like. It's actually a very standard brunch that, like, I think most people might have. But, like, on Real Housewives, they were just. Were like, kind of cramped into, like, the. Around this table. You know, they had to put two place settings. At the end, someone's in front of.

[A]

Like, a really ugly closet door, like, to be shot.

[B]

You know, there's like, not enough room for, like. For, like, her mom and Greg to, like, be not in the scene because they're all like. It's just. She's like, I put a lot of legwork into this, okay? I sourced some really good pineapple and melon.

[A]

So she's like, yeah, well, I did the legwork, and first lady Dawn Moore reached out to me. And so Kieran is like, okay, fine. So I get. And she's like, what's the issue, Kieran? She's like, then host your thing. And she's like, but I don't understand the issue. And she's like, but there's not an issue then. So who did it first? So that's. If you guys are going to fight about this, we need to know, was this a party you were going to have together? Was this something Kieran was going to do and then Wendy stole it when she got those. The. The first lady invite? Or was this something Wendy said, I want to do this thing, and Kieran said, okay, I'll host a pre. Thing for it. And now they're fighting, so they don't want to do it together. I need more details on this stupid fight.

[B]

I feel like Kierna, I think, reading between the Lines. Kieran was excited to host, like, a Proper Housewives party. And instead, Wendy has come in and is kind of like the first lady of Maryland. Reached out about doing something. So I'm definitely going to do that.

[A]

That.

[B]

And so now Kieran, probably her big thing that she was gonna do now, got downgraded last second into being a brunch. This brunch I just made fun of her for. But it probably was like a last minute switcheroo. She got downgraded on the schedule. But I'm sorry, it was the first lady of Maryland of, like, I'm sorry that. That trumps Kierna. I. I like. And if I were at Kierna, I'd be like, oh, that's so cool. We should definitely do that. That's cool. We're gonna go to, like, the governor's mansion or be in the governor's box or whatever in Westmore. Westmoreland. Very hot governor, too, I'd like to point out. Like, of course you do that. You're not. It's like, go hang out with Wes Moore. A hot governor versus Greg on the sofa. Hello. This is an obvious choice.

[A]

So Wendy tells us. I'm so excited to host the ladies at Preakness. It's one of the races that's part of the Triple Crown. It's a staple in the Maryland community. And then we see a flashback of the ladies going in 2017. And she's like. And let's be very clear, first lady of Maryland, India, she asked me. So.

[B]

Okay. Now, that being said, everything is like, let's settle down on this first lady of Maryland stuff, though. Also, at the same time, I know. I just, like, did a whole state, like, they're like, oh, my God, it's Westmore icon. No, but like, at the same time, like, let's also relax here, okay? Like, it's cool that the first lady of Maryland invited you, but, like, let's just, like, take a breather, okay? This is not like, you know, Julie Andrews was like, come to my mansion in Camelot or wherever she lives.

[A]

You know, what if she was like, Julie Andrews invited me to weakness.

[B]

I don't know why. I don't know why Julie Andrews became.

[A]

Why does Julie Andrews trump the first lady of Maryland? I mean, what the hell?

[B]

Well, I think Julie Andrews is more. I know. What do you.

[A]

There's no term limits.

[B]

I don't know why. Yeah, there's no term limits on spinning around on a mountain. Okay. I don't know why a doe will.

[A]

Always be dear people. A Female deer. Okay, sorry. First lady of Maryland, Don Moore.

[B]

I think Don Moore seems great, but let's.

[A]

She's like Julie Andrews. That's all we're saying.

[B]

She's no Julie Andrews. And, like, it's funny because, like, Wendy, like, she. She just bragged about Dawn Moore one too many times. And I've already now. And, like, you know what? I've had enough.

[A]

Yeah, we've had it with you. Don Moore, trying to get on the show. What if Don Moore. What if they showed up? They show up, and Don Moore's like, you know what, Wendy? I feel like you're just trying to be a TV friend. I would love that. Like, everybody's just turning on Wendy.

[B]

Wasn't Don Moore on last season? Or did she send something when Wendy and Eddie had their big party? I think. Or maybe they sent, like, a letter like, from the offices of Dawn Moore or something like that.

[A]

Oh, yeah. They're like, we endorse this. What was it like, the renewal of their vows. What was it? There was something. Yeah, she read.

[B]

We should have known.

[A]

Yeah, she. She did read something where she's like. And this is from the first lady of Maryland. It's like, okay, so Karen was like, oh, wow. So. So I just got, you know, basically overshadowed by the first lady. Okay, got it. So she's like, okay, let's move on from this, because I want to have a real conversation. When we were at Ashley's Bloom Ball, you were very, very condescending. Oh, for Christ's sake. We're going back to the Bloom Ball. We didn't even want to go to the Bloom Ball in the first place. Now we have to go back there. Kierna.

[B]

Kieran, can we go to this Blue ball is wilting me. And then, by the way, the only footage, the only evidence they can pull up of Wendy being condescending is just like a shot of her face just being blank and bored listening to whatever Karen is saying. I was like, that's not condescension. That's just like, really? I have. Like, you're gonna come at me right now, and I'm just trying to have a conversation with Giselle.

[A]

Yeah, she was just lifting up her dress and talking to Giselle about her dress. Karen is like, how dare you? I walked up, and you didn't immediately drop your dress and say, hello, Kieran. We're discussing my dress. So Wendy is like, what brought you to me at Astley's event? I'll be honest with you. That's very juvenile to me. And I don't understand it. She goes, false, false, false. Okay, that's not true, but go ahead. False. Go ahead with your foster tease.

[B]

Whether it's false or not, I'm telling you how I feel. And not just how I feel, but how Dawn Moore feels, First lady of Maryland. So I want you to know that I saw red flags and you as a friend, and I saw state flags when I visited Dawn Moore. And I was just trying to navigate it because I was trying to learn you better.

[A]

Yeah. And Karena goes, same, same, same, same.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Well, but for me, like, I was like, dang, she doesn't call me. You know, me, the person who's always had your back in the group. On my birthday last year, it was. Ashley said that you got your. Your business, like, from. From drug money. And guess what? I was the only one in that group that chased after you much the way Dawn Moore chased after me with the invitation to the Preakness. And you know what? It's okay. Don't worry about. I said to her, don't worry. Don't worry. It's okay. It's okay. And that's the kind of friend I've been to you. The kind of friend who consoles you even though she's friends with the first lady of Maryland.

[A]

That is funny, though, that Wendy's only evidence of them being friends is her hugging her and going, it's okay that they called your boyfriend a drug dealer. Like, that's their only evidence of friendship. Kieran, why are you acting like you guys are best friends? It's so weird. So she's like, yeah, but you know what, Wendy? Here's what you do. You show up whenever there's a moment where you have to align and look like a friend. But then privately, I expected more from our friendship.

[B]

She's like, what are you trying to chase? Why are you chasing this friendship, then?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, privately. Are people calling your boyfriend a drug dealer that she should be there privately? Because that's what she was there for you for. So that's it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you want from her? It's so weird that you're making me stick up for Wendy. It feels like this is the wrong season to be sticking up for Wendy of all seasons. But I can't help it. You're just coming up with too much bullshit, you know? And Wendy can be wrong and all the other stuff that she's done and still be right in this. And I think that's the case here. Here, Kierna, like, you're going against Someone who should be universally being, like, kind of dogged on right now because of everything going on in the press. And you've got us on her side. I mean, what the hell, Kieran? This is how bad you are at this right now. Rethink.

[B]

Yeah. Isn't it weird? I feel like. I feel like. I feel like we're all kind of in a holding pattern on Wendy right now. We're like, should we. Should we be, like, really angry at Wendy? Is there more to the story? I feel like we're all just sort of, like, watching. But it hasn't actually affected my view of her on this show just yet. I just have cringe moments, like, with her, with her tagline, you know?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, what can you do? You just go through week by week. You know what? Day by day. We can just take it day by day. We're housewives, addicts. We have to think of this, like our addiction. You know, we can't just waste all our anger and be mad when people tell us to and, you know, make bad choices just because we feel like it. You know, we take this day by day. And today, I think Wendy is correct.

[B]

Yes. So Kiana's like, no, I'm gonna have a drink.

[A]

Damn it. Damn it. I ruined it.

[B]

She's. Kiana says, when I feel like it comes to a point in that friendship that we can't connect on it. Like, I don't like it, and, like, it makes me feel uncomfortable because I feel like I can't show up and be my authentic self with a person that I've seen on my. As my friend. And then when I sat across me at the event and watched, just. I just watch you be. So let me see. Go back to the Bloom Ball with Giselle when he's talking to Giselle about her outfit. Because I'm watching you sitting there locked in with Giselle, and you don't even like her. She's like, wait. But, like. Because it was our conversation. We were talking. That's why I was locked in with her.

[A]

But you don't even like her. And she goes, you don't even like her. She goes, no, actually, I do like her. She goes, oh, but you're talking about me. No, because you don't like her. She does that a lot today. Karen, you don't understand. Everybody talks about each other. This is housewives. You cannot like somebody. And then the next day, you're at lunch in a stupid outfit with them. That's how the show is. You have to talk to people. You don't like on this show.

[B]

I'm going to say something that I would never say to Stacy. Take a breath for a second. Okay.

[A]

Exhale. But if Stacy was here, I would say, inside breath. Inside breath. So Wendy's like, calm down. She goes, I am calm. And she says, when I was talking to Giselle, my co. That was my conversation with Suzelle. And I know. I don't even know what the issue is. And she's like, here's what you did. The Wendy I talked to on the phone is very excited about me, but it really centers around the show. Okay. Because you're on a show together. Who cares? What else is she going to be excited about? Your relationship with Greg. You're fake moving to another apartment so you don't take shit from the audience about still being with Greg. Which, by the way, you're hypocritically getting on Stacy 4 and probably Giselle later this season. So Kieran is like, yeah, you're excited on the phone, but then you're not excited in real person. And Wendy just starts doing her cackle that like.

[B]

Yeah. When you're just like, I've had enough. She starts laughing and she's like, this is what she's bringing to me. I don't know what to do with it. It seems like the level of hand holding that Kieran needs in a friendship exceeds where I am as a grown ass woman who's friends with the first lady of Maryland.

[A]

Yeah. And so Kieran is like, stop it. But Wendy just gets up to leave and still keeps cackling. And she's like, I still don't like you and you're raggedy. Goodbye. Thank you. So Kierna is like, this is all the confirmation I needed. The fake laugh that I'm not really hearing you. To me, it's just a lot of deflection. Kierna, she doesn't like you. Let me just tell you the truth. The reader getting on Wendy is correct. She only likes you on the show because you're an ally. Now you're being an asshole on the show. And you're going to find out real quick what it's like to have her not as your ally because you just you up Karen for no reason. She doesn't like you. She didn't like you. She's not gonna like you. That's just how it is. She's showing up to punch in and then she's gonna punch out. So she can punch in and be on your side or she can punch in and be your Enemy. And you're about to find out the second choice. It's not a good one. Bad choice.

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah, she's sort of in this. Basically, Karena concludes that, like, I think we're not Riley enemies, but we're not really friends. And they flip each other off as Kieran leaves. And Wendy just keeps on doing this laugh. But then they do this weird. Then they have this weird moment. They both start, like, walking away from the river. And, like, Wendy almost, like, she, like, hugs Kieran. There's, like, a side hug with her laugh. And Karen's like, get off me. And I was like, what was that about? You guys just had a fight, but you're trying to kind of, like, do a side hug with her? Did you guys just say, like, okay, good scene. We just wrapped that up. Let's go have lunch.

[A]

Wendy's energy is just, like, laughing it off. And she's like, I'm not gonna fight with you. That's what I'm getting from her. Like, she's not even mad. She's just like, girl, I'm not gonna give you a fight on tv. Sorry. Like, bye, Have a good day. Okay. I wasted this outfit on a park bench, so have a good day.

[B]

Yeah, seriously.

[A]

Goodbye.

[B]

So now we go over to Angel's house, Bobby, and we get a new type of generational trauma. It's so rare that we're able to get a new kind of trauma on any of these Housewives shows. We've gone through so many of them. But Bobby Soft launches a new one, which is that when Patricia, his mom, says, offers some yogurt to him, he says, nah, I don't eat yogurt. Had too much go gurt as a kid.

[A]

I was like, oh, so it's my fault you don't like yogurt or fruit? The mother can never win. The mother could never win.

[B]

All I wanted to do was show you love, and I showed you that love through gogurt. And now this is how you repay me.

[A]

The doctor's like, show me on this Pop Tart where gogurt hurt you.

[B]

He's like, got the gogurt. That's why he was such a good football player, because he just, like, envisioned all the other opponents as sticks of gogurt.

[A]

He's like this Teddy Britain. This teddy bear is gogurt. Tell it how you feel. Tell it how you feel. So it's breakfast for the kids. And angel has a lot of orchids, A lot of. Or orchids. And I feel like that that's a Rich person thing to be like, look at me with all my flowers that die every five minutes. I could just get more.

[B]

I can just get more. This is a good family.

[A]

We've got as many ogres, many ok, orchids as we want.

[B]

We went from gogurt to orchids, and we're never looking back. Like no angel. We'd like a better tagline from you, but she's holding up. There's a orchid flower that's on the table like. Like the bug that the whole flower fell off.

[A]

And that's how they do they. The whole. I know.

[B]

And she's like.

[A]

And then you're left with a stem and some bark thinking, will that ever come back? So it's happening to me right now, every day. I'm like, it's coming back. Are you coming back? People have been writing me letters saying, it will come back. It will come back. Keep it going. So I keep doing the watering thing. I keep going through the motions. Still not back. Yeah, orchids.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. I agree. And that's how I actually think that's.

[A]

What I call them. Dorkid. You're a dorkid is what you're dorkid.

[B]

Maybe it went from being an orchid to an orc adult. It said, I'm leaving this stem, going off to better pastures.

[A]

Commercials.

[B]

Here comes one right now. Anyway, this is actually why I think that they don't normally have orchids, because I think anyone who ever has had an orchid or Z had a friend who's had an orchid. Because anyone who has a friend who has an orchid will always have. Will have the rant that you just had, which is like, I'm so mad my orchid died. Like, I've been on the receiving end of that for so many times, and I'm always very sympathetic. I'm not sick of it. It's actually a rant I really enjoy. But you can tell she's never had an orchid before because she's, like, shocked. She's like, what happened to this flower? I'm like, it's an orchid, bitch.

[A]

That's what happened to orchids. They're loser flowers. And you know, when this guy gave me this orchid at our little crappin's thing, someone brought it to me. And at first I was like, that is so sweet. Those are such gorgeous flowers. But then I thought, this person wants me to fail. You know what I mean? And you know who it was? It was my mortgage guy. It was my mortgage guy who gave it to me.

[B]

Well, it's a straight Catch flower. What can you expect?

[A]

Well, his girlfriend got it, but I was like, these people want me to fail. You know what I mean? They don't want me to have a good refi rate. They ultimately want me to. They're getting me a failure plant. Because everybody with an orchid knows those plants make you feel like a fucking failure. Everybody knows it. And I was like, they don't like me. They truly don't like me.

[B]

So anyway, I mean, on top of that, like, so their whole thing, I feel like, with orchids is that they. They look like, I think, like giant bee vaginas, Right? Is that why the bees love going to them? They crawl up in there because they're.

[A]

Like, oh, yeah, I've never looked at a bee vagina up close. How am I supposed to know?

[B]

I just seem to remember when I was a kid in, like, science class that the bees loved going to, like, the orchids mimic something sexual for the bees, I think. So bees get all up in there. So I'm like, okay, so you're. First of all.

[A]

So you're telling me the orchid died because I stuck my penis in it. That actually. I need to actually look that up?

[B]

I probably should. Well, I probably should look into this more. But I seem to remember that there was some. So, okay, Natural History Museum has a headline right here. Right here, the Natural History Museum of the uk Headline, Sneaky Orchids Manipulate Bees for Pollination. I mean, it's all right there in the headline, am I right? Sneaky orchid, Sneaky orchid, Sneaky orchid.

[A]

Okay, so we're talking about orchids so much because it's an angel scene and there's not much else to talk about. So she talks about her mother passing but giving her a lot of wisdom. And then they talk about her mom for a while, and now they're talking about, let's see, a package and others talking about their kids. And her mom's protecting her through stuff. Okay, so now they're talking about the girls.

[B]

He's crying in the corner because he's thinking about gogurt. Yeah, continue.

[A]

Gogurt is in the corner just laughing maniacally. It's like, got another one. Go, girl.

[B]

It's actually an orchid.

[A]

An orchid's growing out of a gogurt. Like, I'll get you both. I'll take this entire couple down.

[B]

The orcas from, like, needful things. It's like, oh, here's a little trinket from your childhood to destroy you.

[A]

So they start talking about the little party they had at their house. And Angel's like, giselle walked in here, and she basically related that Kay said she chin checked me when I went to her talks and caviar event. So then we see a flashback to that, and she's like, and then I woke up upset because, number one, that didn't happen. And number two, why would she use that type of language? Chin checked. How could she? I'm an outdoor expert. I'm a luxury outdoor expert.

[B]

I have orchids that I'm very comfortable and know how to care for. I have those here. What? Chin check? I think last week we were talking about chin checking, and I thought chin checking meant that you just, like, jut your chin out. Like, you'd be like, hey, quiet. But what I learned this week is that chin checking is like an actual little fist on the chin. It's like a little punch on the chin. I didn't realize it was quite literally punching you in the chin.

[A]

I still like the urban dictionaries. One better of, like, you know that your girlfriend's cheating because she's got the outline of someone's balls on her face.

[B]

Yeah, that's a great one.

[A]

I can't stop thinking of that. Every time they say it, I start laughing. So now she's decided that she didn't like this chin check thing even more. She woke up. Now that she's. She's a true. I think she's doing a good job as a housewife because she's forgiving something and then waking up and getting upset all over again and then deciding to make it another episode. And you know what? That's what you're supposed to do. So welcome to work. So he's like, yeah, chin check is like, boom to the chin. Like, it's a punch to the chin. She goes, yeah, that's actually physical. And he goes, yeah, like, she checked your chin. Like, she go guarded your chin. And Angel's like, yeah, there we go. And so I need to have a deeper conversation with Kay about why she had to do that, because I have her back no matter what. But it is an issue where I feel disrespected for being accused of chin checking. Somebody the language.

[B]

And then Bobby takes something out of the oven with teeny, tiny oven mitts, and he's like, look at these. The biggest. The biggest oven mitts in the world. Huh, Everyone? But, like, the sad truth is that they're probably, like, an extra large oven, and he's just so big that, like, they just fit on his, like, fingertips. So he pulls them out, and now we go over to lunchtime at Circa, and Stacy is there with none other than Jassy. Jassy is back. I was so happy to see Jassy. I was surprised. I was like, oh, here comes Jassy. I like her because she likes to be all fancied, but you just know that it's gonna crumble away. I was surprised that she wasn't a full time housewife this season. Were you a little surprised?

[A]

No, no. I couldn't pick Jassy out of a lineup. Like, I wouldn't have remembered her. I mean, no offense, she was always nice, but she didn't do much, did she? All I remember, well, he had that party at her house. She was like, look, it's a mansion. Look at all these rich, fabulous people. It's such a fabulous party. And everyone's like, oh, her boyfriend didn't make it into the. Into the NFL. What was that?

[B]

Like?

[A]

Didn't he get.

[B]

No, he.

[A]

Didn't he lose his position or something? Or he was just, like, benched or something like that? Yeah, it didn't go well. He didn't get drafted or whatever. I mean, I don't really understand.

[B]

He went to the Kansas. He went. Well, he was on the. Oh, he was on the Chiefs. And they won. Oh, because they had the party. Because he won the Super Bowl. But then he was hoping to go. I don't know. I don't know what it was. I thought there was some, like, minor scandal about Jassy that was gonna, like, power her onto the show, but it.

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Didn't he have a baby with somebody while they were.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

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Broken up for a week.

[B]

See, that's why I loved her, because she was very slippery with the truth in a way that I found was very funny. But anyway, she's back. Back. So they're sitting down, they're talking, and Stacy, they're. They're bonding over the fact that. That they bonded in Miami because they both went down to Miami for Mia's birthday party and then Mia ditched them, as was discussed on the reunion last season.

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He, Darius Harris, is an American professional football football linebacker for the New England Patriots. Oh, so there you go. Just in case anybody gets annoyed with me for not knowing what the hell I'm talking about, because I admittedly don't. I don't know anything about sports. So there you go. But you see, this is what happens when Jassy comes back. I have to start Googling sports shit because I say stupid things and then I have to fix them. Okay, so where Were you?

[B]

I was just saying how they bonded because they both went down to Mia for Mia's birthday party. Went down to Miami, AKA Miami.

[A]

So this is another friendship for tv, because that was a long time ago. So she's like, wow, so good to see you. Remember how we got so bonded over that Mia Miami trip?

[B]

Trip.

[A]

Yeah, me neither. I barely remember it too. But God, is so good to have a girlfriend. Have I told you that Arabella isn't as good of a walker as me?

[B]

No. I have to say, I want to start by apologizing not for Arabella's performance. She'll never be as good as me. But I just. I don't think that I've been a very good friend. And Jassy goes, that's okay. You know it. I'm just happy to be here since I'm not a full fledged housewife. Well, I pride myself on friendships and the support that I give and get when I love someone. And I love you, but I have a lot going on. And Jassy's like, well, I mean, last time I talked to you on the phone, you know, you were baking schnitzel for your ex husband.

[A]

And she's like, yeah, we're working it out. Okay. You know, tell me about your wedding plans. Do you have a dress? Should I say dresses? She's like, you should definitely say dresses. I've got a lot of dresses. Okay, well, let's pretend I care about your wedding before we start talking about other people. Okay, so listen, everybody's really mean to me in the group now. Now, Kay sent an invitation to the group. She was having a pre party before Preakness, but Wendy also mentioned that this was something she was involved in. So at this point, I'm putting on a dress and. What's it called? What's it called? A fascinator. A fascinator.

[B]

And we see Kieran's text that's like, you know, hey, I was invited to Black Eyed season day at Preakness, and I'd love for you to come by. I'm having a pre game at my apartment, so come dress for the derby and don't forget your dollars for. But then Wendy's text comes through that says, hi, lady, I'd love for you to join me at Black Eyed Susan day at Preakness. The first lady of Maryland, Dawn Moore, my friend, invited me for the day, and I'd love for you to come enjoy the event in your best derby wear.

[A]

Yeah. So Stacy's like, wow, I just can't tell you how hard it is for me. Every time I've gotten together with the ladies, they gang up on me. And Ashley and Giselle demanded that I present my divorce paper papers. By the way, did you read that she does have divorce papers. She is legit divorced. Yes. That's what was reported this week by tmz, which is basically the real news.

[B]

Wow. So Stacy's saying they're just not happy for me. Jassy then, you know, says that her grandparents got divorced and then they continue to basically have. They were divorced for six months and then they continued a 60 year old marriage. So, you know, it's not crazy. Things like this happen. And then Stacy's like, and didn't Giselle get together with her husband? And there's that too. Speaking of Giselle. Word on the street. That's her famous line. I'm using it now. Word on the street. I don't know if you're aware, but Giselle has a new man.

[A]

Word on the street is that Giselle is the word on the street. And she's got a man. So we see a blurred out picture, a paparazzi photo of Giselle with some guy, and his name is like on.

[B]

The headline, which is funny, I didn't write it down, but they show they're like, Sean Springs.

[A]

His name is Sean Springs. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to stop the show.

[B]

I'm looking.

[A]

I was saying that's his name, Sean Springs. And so Stacy's like, do you think Darius knows him? She goes, probably. So while she's worried about my man, we need to find out about her man.

[B]

So I don't care.

[A]

Is he cheating on somebody? Like, why is it bad if she's dating somebody? Because she's not sharing it.

[B]

Yeah. About to say, isn't Giselle allowed to date someone? Maybe it's that she's. Maybe that she's not divulging into the group. I don't know if she is, if she has to divulge it to the group. I think the issue is that Stacy, it seems like there are untruths surrounding her marital status and her relationship with, with, with Timo and like, whether or not they were together all the time. Like, everything with TJ Was he paid for? Was he not paid for? Was it real? Was it not real? Like, there's no issues surrounding whether or not Giselle is dating a football player. It's like dating.

[A]

Yeah. Who cares?

[B]

Who cares?

[A]

Yeah. So he is an American football former professional football player who was a comeback in The national football league for 13 seasons, which. That's good, because Giselle's good on this show, but she's not great with coming back, so maybe. Maybe he can help her. He. He played college ball for the Buckeyes, learned all. All earned all American honors, and he was selected by the Seahawks third overall in the 1997 NFL Draft.

[B]

Well, well, look at that. He was a cornerback. Yeah.

[A]

So. Oh, a corner. I thought it said comeback. God, I'm so blind.

[B]

It's a comeback.

[A]

I'm really losing it. Maybe it's time to get some glasses.

[B]

You may have had a comeback moment.

[A]

I really don't know about sports. I was like, what's a comeback? I love that. I love that they have that in football. Maybe I'm interested in this sport.

[B]

It's just like Valerie Cherish playing football.

[A]

You want to tackle me? I will wither you with a comeback. I think. Acidic comeback. Hey, you don't even want to hear what I have to say about orchids.

[B]

So Stacy shows this to Jassy, and Jassy's like. Like, wow, how'd you pull this tea? This is unlike you, Stacy. I'm like, I'm sure she just googled, is Gisele Bryant dating anyone? And this popped up. It's a news story.

[A]

Yeah, it's literally a news story.

[B]

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