#3045 Crappy Hour 10/20/25: Lea Black

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3045: Crappy Hour 10/20/25: Lea Black (October 21, 2025)

Overview

In this special Crappy Hour episode, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam welcome their longtime friend and Real Housewives of Miami alum Lea Black. The episode offers a blend of personal updates, insider Housewives gossip, sizzling behind-the-scenes tales, and the latest Bravo headlines. With Lea’s trademark candor and sharp wit, the conversation dives deep into Miami cast drama, Lea's perspectives on the Housewives experience, Beverly Hills comparisons, and juicy Bravo news—ranging from recent arrests to reality star breakups.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

[03:07] Lea Black Joins – Reflecting on a Decade of Friendship

• Lea is introduced as an early crappens listener and long-term friend.
• She jokes, “I look 10 years younger and you guys look 10 years older.” ([04:04], Lea Black)
• Lea is candid about her grief following husband Roy Black’s passing: she's been hibernating and this is her first public appearance in months.

[05:12] Real Housewives of Miami Gossip & Reunion Fallout

• Lea hasn’t watched the latest season, but she’s been sent clips and is in the know on "gossip fest" Miami.
• Discussion of the drama between Julia, Martina, and Adriana, notably Adriana accusing Julia of an affair with a "Haitian mortician."
• Lea confirms she heard buzz before the reunion: “If you’re going to poke the bear, be ready for the retaliation, because Adriana’s got a really big temper and she cannot censor herself.” ([06:15], Lea Black)

[08:17] Behind-the-Scenes on Nicole, Marisol, and Housewife Power Moves

• Lea confirms she advised Dr. Nicole about joining RHOM, warning her about backstabbing castmates.
• She shares producers told her Nicole was intentionally pushed off the show by other cast members, particularly Marisol.
• On Marisol: “She’ll do anything… she hires a writer to write one-liners for her, hoping they’ll go viral.” ([09:39], Lea Black)

[10:35] Insights on Miami’s Newbie Stephanie Shojai and Cast Connections

• Lea has never heard of Stephanie Shojai or her husband, despite Miami’s small social circles.
• She admits she's only in light touch with Lisa Hochstein and is no longer close to most cast members.

[11:53] Relationship with Alexia and Strong Words on Show Ethics

• Lea helped Alexia join the show despite opposition from Alexia’s husband, Herman.
• On Alexia, Lea says: “She had two faces… when they outed Herman, that was crossing a line for me. There’s no going back from that.” ([13:15], Lea Black)
• She’s critical of using real-life pain as storyline fodder and “painting herself a hero.”

[15:02] Would Lea Ever Return? Beverly Hills—A Better Fit?

• Lea is standoffish about returning: “They’d have to wear name tags… you can’t recognize any of them.” ([16:01], Lea Black)
• She shares positive relationships with Larsa Pippen and Lisa Hochstein.
• Responds humorously to rumored Santeria curses placed on her: “I don’t know anybody THAT dark that would put a hex on somebody to get them off a TV show.” ([17:03], Lea Black)
• She muses she’d have fit better with Beverly Hills’ “highbrow gossip” and “not gutter skank,” but recognizes the LA circuit is crowded with starlets.

[19:53] Beverly Hills Relationships & The Reality of Housewives Ambitions

• Lea lists her real-life connections in Beverly Hills: Lisa Rinna, Lisa Vanderpump and Ken, Erica Jayne, and Kyle Richards; she respects their work ethic.
• On the ambitions behind the scenes: “In Miami, they never saw the bigger picture... while they plotted to bring me down, I was plotting branding lines for each of them.” ([21:32], Lea Black)
• Her approach is to empower women to make money and be independent.

[23:31] Miami Cast Self-Perception & Unfiltered Opinions

• Lea teases the cast’s shamelessness and lack of self-awareness, referencing Alexia’s infamous “I’m a star” scene.
• They riff on product placement with a humorous aside about croissants (actually pumpkins) in Lea’s background.

[24:08] Lea Black Skincare – Entrepreneurial Roots & Special Offer

• Lea explains her longstanding skincare business, notably pioneering CBD products and focusing on quality/science.
• Announces an exclusive Crappens deal for listeners: iPads + eye cream bundle for $99, valued at $218 (promo code mentioned: crappensblack.com).

[28:26] Lea Signs Off: Love, Loyalty, and the Willingness to Spill

• Lea closes by reaffirming her affection for Ben, Ronnie, and their audience, expressing gratitude for the chance to connect post-loss.
• Hosts reflect: “That’s so refreshing to meet someone who really doesn’t give a crap if they’re back on the show or not.” ([28:46], Ronnie)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Housewife Feuds: “The behavior was just... I was blindsided by the behavior, and I couldn’t even wrap my head around it.” ([17:03], Lea Black)
• On Miami Social Life: “Miami’s a very small town in a big way.” ([10:35], Lea Black)
• On Skincare Entrepreneurship: “It’s not a lick-and-stick line. Some people just call 1-800-skincare and put their name on it... We actually do the work.” ([24:08], Lea Black)
• On Bravo Fame Strategies: “I like that [Beverly Hills] is highbrow gossip and fighting, not gutter skank. And I like that.” ([18:23], Lea Black)
• On Miami’s Double-Edged Stardom: “Your personality, it’s not a show. I don’t even know what it is. And within their mind, they’re movie stars and in their mind, they’re the new stars.” ([22:32], Lea Black)
• On Drama Ethics: “Using someone who can’t defend themselves as a storyline? For me, that is rotten to the core. Who does that?” ([14:15], Lea Black)

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Bravo Headlines Breakdown

[29:45] Real Housewives of Potomac – Wendy and Eddie's Insurance Fraud Arrest

• Ben and Ronnie recap the facts and speculate on the consequences.
• Wendy’s public statement post-arrest: generic, noncommittal.
• “There’s a lot more yarn to pull from this yarn ball.” ([32:12], Ben)

[34:56] Salt Lake City Hot Goss — “Soup Man” or “Suit Man”?

• Miscommunication leads to wild rumors of Angie’s affair.
• The “Soup Man” is likely an executive named Peter Nelson (the “Suit Man”), tied to podcast gossip.
• “Of course Lisa Barlow butchers it… This is how rumors start.” ([37:12], Ben)

[38:04] Bravo Relationships & Legal Woes

• Breakups: Ariana Biermann, MJ and Tommy.
• Legal: Aaron Phypers arrested for allegedly abusing Denise Richards, prompting hosts’ strong condemnation.
• Miami’s Julia Lemigova reportedly seeking treatment for PTSD; she and Martina remain together.

[40:29] Potomac’s Ashley Darby Sings “Cell Block Tango”

• Ben plays a clip: “It’s not the worst we’ve heard but it’s a little community theater.”
• Live listener comments roast the performance: “My ears are bleeding!”

[42:15] Atlanta News: Phaedra Parks, Edie, and Social Media Chaos

• Phaedra hired to represent Kelly in a court case, hosts debate the wisdom of this.
• Explosive Brit Edie Instagram video drags Shamea Morton.

[49:31] Miami’s Social Worker Scuffle

• Messy Instagram comments: Gertie responds to Julia’s “social worker” for interfering in the drama.

[50:01] McBee Dynasty Update

• Stephen McBee Sr. is sentenced to two years for fraud (“Not as shocking as Wendy Osefo!”).
• New season ordered for the show—viewers will see fallout.

[53:16] Below Deck’s Camille Arrested

• Camille arrested for DUI; mugshot described as “rough, as Bravo shots go. Probably bottom three.”

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Fun Banter & Miscellany

• Talk of Santeria curses, croissants actually being pumpkins, and promote-lea humor.
• Repeated appreciation for Lea’s candor and unapologetic style.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:07 – Lea Black joins / Miami gossip
• 11:53 – Lea on Alexia, Herman, and show ethics
• 15:02 – Returning to RHOM? / Beverly Hills connections
• 24:08 – Lea Black Skincare pitch & offer
• 29:45 – Potomac: Wendy/Eddie insurance fraud headline
• 34:56 – Salt Lake City: “Soup Man” controversy
• 38:04 – Relationship/Legal news: Aaron & Denise, Biermanns
• 40:29 – Ashley Darby singing reactions
• 42:15 – Atlanta: Phaedra, Edie, social media drama
• 50:01 – McBee Dynasty sentencing
• 53:16 – Camille (Below Deck) DUI arrest

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Summary

A vibrant, unfiltered episode bringing together sharp Housewives commentary and real friendship. Lea Black lays bare the tactics, rivalries, and mercenary motives of Miami—and why she’d fit better with Beverly Hills’ “highbrow” drama. The Crappens boys keep things rolling with news from the wider Bravo world, including legal woes, relationship off-ramps, and classic, campy moments. From playful shade to honest emotion, this episode’s a must-listen for any fan who wants both laughter and inside tea on the Bravo-verse.

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Memorable Quote:

“While they plotted to bring me down, I was plotting a cooking line for one girl, a lingerie line for another... I was building them empires, and they were trying to destroy me.”
—Lea Black ([21:32])

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Find Leah Black on Instagram: @leahblackmiami

For exclusive skincare offers: leahblack.com (promo code: crappensblack)

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[A]

Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

[B]

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

[A]

Good. How you doing today?

[B]

B we well, I feel like a war hero. I went to Whole Foods to return some items and I survived the parking lot, so kind of feel like kind of a bit more of a man. There was. There was a lot I had to avoid, but I did it. I survived.

[A]

So, yeah, pretty good. Whole Foods is supposed to be such a peaceful place because there's so much, you know, like, healthy stuff in there. There's like crystals and like organic soap. But every time I go in there, I've said the F word and the C word at least 10 times trying to get through that parking. It's like you need the crystals by the time you get into that damn place, you do.

[B]

And there's a lot of idiots that are trying to get into that parking lot. To me included. I'll just say it. I'll just say it right now. Me included. But like, you see some of these ladies in their yoga pants and they're like hats. And then they're like, they're like doing some weird diagonal thing where they're just across all the lanes doing nothing. And you're like, where are you going? Are you coming in? You're going out? Are you trying to park? Are you parked? And then there's two girls just like standing there, just talking. Literally have a conversation in the driveway where people are trying to turn in on San Monica Boulevard. I was like, but I did it and I'm here. Still I rise. Still I rise.

[A]

I rise. Well, everybody, today's a very special episode of Crappy Hour because we have one of our first podcast friends. This is. This lady was one of our first listeners actually, and called us up right when we started crapp ins and said, hey, I heard you were making fun of me. I want to come on and hear it.

[C]

And.

[A]

She came on and then she lives in LA part time. So when she started coming here, started having us over to her house all the time. And so we've been friends with this lady now for over 10 years. Ben, you know that our 10 year anniversary came out. Well, it must be longer than that. Actually, it was the beginning of the podcast. But anyway, please introduce podcast friend and our real life friend, Ms. Leah Blank. Leah Blank.

[B]

Leah Blank. I'll put you in the center. You're acting like you should be in the center.

[A]

Tear it down. Hi, honey.

[C]

I love you guys. Welcome. It's been a long time. 10 years. I look 10 years younger and you guys look 10 years older.

[B]

How's that happen? Love that.

[A]

Excuse me. You shouldn't say things like that. We're about to talk about your youthening products.

[C]

That's why I was 10 years younger.

[A]

So, Leo, what have you been up to lately? It's been rough over there with the passing of Roy. So everybody's condolences to you.

[C]

It's been the roughest three months ever. This is my first time to talk to anybody other than my dogs and the. And the people that work at the house. I don't go anywhere. I don't talk to anybody. I don't return any calls. I. I'm just hibernating. You're my first outing experience.

[A]

Thanks for being here.

[B]

We're honored for that. That's. We know that's a hard, a hard thing that You've been going through so really, really love and hugs.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Well, I saw you here in L. A. You were packing up the house. I came to see you the other day and we were talking about stuff and I was asking you about your. Your thoughts on this current season of Miami. And what did you tell me?

[C]

I told you shame on me. But I haven't watched it. But I did see some of the clips that people clip and then they send you the link to see the clip. I saw some of that and that's all I know about it. But I know the behind the scenes because I live in Miami and everybody knows everything in Miami. It's a gossip fest city over here. Spanish didn't matter. They all figure out a way to translate that gossip.

[A]

Yeah, you have to be bilingual over there just so you can get.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

Well, so have you heard, I guess one of the big questions that came out of the reunion, even though you didn't watch it, there was a big question about Julia and Martina and Adriana. Did you hear any gossip about whether or not Julia has been, you know, having affairs? Is Adrian. You know, Adriana accused Julia of having an affair with a Haitian mortician, and Julia actually had to buy this man a coffee maker. And I saw that rumor.

[C]

I saw.

[B]

I didn't hear that as Adriana, a reliable source.

[C]

Well, I will say before the reunion, there was buzz on the street in Miami that. That. That she was going to say something, that something was going to come out, and somebody texted me that. I didn't even reply back. I just, like, finger in my ears. And so I wasn't surprised when I saw the. The clip. But what the. The problem that the other girl's name. What's her name? Julia. Julia. The problem Julia had is she underestimates Adriana. If you're gonna poke the bear, you better be ready for the retaliation because Adriana's got a really big temper and she cannot censor herself. So she should have known. I guess she didn't watch any previous shows or didn't know her that well. But if you're going to poke the bear, be ready for the retaliation because Adriana is not going to. She's not going to let anybody get away with it. She's going to say what's on her mind and that's it. She did.

[A]

It would be kind of. I thought it would be kind of fun if we told you, we updated you on what was going on on the show now, and you just kind of give us Your opinions on all. Ok. Oh, God.

[C]

I'm. My big mouth. You're going to get me in trouble. I'm always in trouble. Anyway.

[B]

It's all right.

[A]

Okay. So the first one was that. That Adriana had this, you know, bisexual gay affair with Julia. Believe it or not.

[C]

I don't. I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt that it happened. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

[A]

Do you know there on the show, there was someone called the Haitian mortician?

[C]

I heard about that on that clip. Yes, I saw that on the clip. That is so Miami. That is just so Miami. Everything from Santa Ria, which, you know, at Santa Ria is when they sacrifice animals and put hexes on people. And the Haitian mortician, that is just so Miami that seriously, it wouldn't even. That's like normal here, that kind of stuff.

[A]

Miami. Alexia and Todd, what are your thoughts on Alexi and Marisol? Because there was one. There was one accusation in the reunion that Nicole. You know Dr. Nicole, right? From.

[C]

I know her at a. Not really well, but I do know her and we have mutual friends. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So there was actually asked my advice about signing on to the show. So I know her a little bit.

[A]

What did you say?

[C]

The truth, you know, that. That it's what you make of it. And would anything you, you know, don't do anything that you don't want to be publicized or taped because the film. The cameras are running all the time. And that there were a couple of people that she absolutely needed to watch her back about because they would do whatever they could to bring her down because she was a prettier, younger, thinner version, and they weren't going to have it.

[B]

I was right about it, Marisol.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, they couldn't wait to get her off the show. They ran her off, was the inside story that I heard from producers. So I don't know.

[A]

Well, there was an. There was an accusation on the reunion that Nicole said that Marisol h. A PI to come after her.

[C]

Oh, that wouldn't surprise me at all. But she wouldn't have hired it. She would have traded something to get it for free. But I wouldn't be surprised.

[A]

She wouldn't have paid.

[C]

Wouldn't surprise me.

[B]

What is Mary?

[C]

I mean, this is a girl that I. This is. She'll get somebody. I'll get you a free dress. You know, I'll get. I. I know somebody. They'll give you a free dinner at a restaurant. She'll do something to get out of paying, but I won't be surprised that she figured out a way to. To do that. I mean, this is a girl that hires a writer to write one liners for her, hoping they'll go viral and she gifts out of them so she'll do anything. You know, I mean, that's just. That's her. That's who she is.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That they ran Nicole off, you know, that's what one of the producers told me, that the two girls couldn't run her off fast enough. So I guess they did. Maybe it was investigator. Maybe it was gossiping about her, her family, her husband, who knows? I don't know. I didn't follow it. But they will find a way to run her off if they don't want her on there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you, you run. You run in big, powerful circles. Have you encountered or dealt with Stephanie Shojai, the newbie, or. Or her husband of the Shoma Group?

[C]

You know, this is really funny. Miami's a very small town in a big way. And I have never even heard of her before. I was shocked. I didn't. I know I had never heard of her. And I still wouldn't be able to pick her out of a lineup because one picture I saw she had blonde hair and another picture, her hair was back and it looked like brown and a bun. And I was like, is that the. So I don't know. I don't know anything about her. No opinion, no comment. No, I don't know anything about her. She could be the most fabulous person in the world or she could be the worst. I don't know.

[B]

Have you ever encountered Massoud before?

[C]

Who?

[B]

That's her husband. That's her husband. Developer.

[C]

I never heard of him either. I mean, maybe I live in my own little world, but I'd never heard of him. Yeah.

[A]

So who else do you still know from the cast? Do you keep in contact with anybody on there? Do you keep in contact with Lisa?

[C]

A little bit. With Lisa, I used to keep closer touch with Lisa than I have recently. Who else? Who are some of them? I can't remember who they are. No.

[B]

What about Alexia? Where do you. What was it? What has been the arc of your relationship with Alexia? Because when you were on Miami in the. In the early days, Alexia was much more of a side character. And when they brought it back, they really centered her. So what was your relationship with Alexia back then?

[C]

With Alexia? Her husband Herman at the time did not want her to go on the show. And he like literally just put his foot down. She wanted on there so bad So I tried to help convince him to let her on. And I said, let her on the show, Herman. I'll have her back. She'll be fine. It's all going to work out. And I kind of helped include convince him to let her get on the show. And then for me, I always said she had two faces. You know, when I was selling my skincare cream, I'm like, I can sell her double because she's got two faces. And, you know, and she does have two faces. And for me, the final straw with her, in addition to the conniving and the lying and the backstabbing and the rest of that that she does with her sidekick over there, was when they outed Herman. That was crossing a line for me. There's no going back from that. That is. There is no going back from that. You don't do that to somebody that supported you and your two kids because your husband was in jail and you had nothing and they Support you for 10 years and give you a great life, and then they're six feet under and can't defend themselves. And you use it as a storyline. For me, there was no going back from that.

[A]

Oh, that's interesting. Because when that happened, she was kind of a hero, I think, with the audience.

[C]

That's all bullshit. Because let me tell you, when I used to go to every single thing they ever had in mind, me, I hosted the first white party in my backyard. That's how far back I go with the gay community. I was at every event they ever had. I hosted half of them. I did the parade, I did it all. And all those years, I never saw one thing ever. She was never at one thing.

[A]

We saw her to Gay Pride. And in this, in this, not this season, but in this version of the show. And she was a little problematic, actually.

[C]

Well, when she, when she outed Herman, they had to paint her as a friend to the gay community or it would have made her look like who she is. Somebody that outed a gay husband that she knew was gay all along.

[A]

So she did know he was gay. So she did know he was gay all along. Yeah, and I don't care on the show, like, I can't believe it. I heard from the ex, you know, I can't believe this is happening.

[C]

I thought Herman, I thought Herman was one of the most stand up guys. He always defended me. He always reached out to me. He would meet me for drinks at the Fountain Blue Hotel and confide in me and give me all the gossip. He was a great guy. And I think she resented my relationship with him too. But the fact that she outed him when he wasn't here to defend himself or tell his side of the story and they connived that, the two of them, to have a storyline and put that out there in the public domain, there's no going back from that. For me. That wow is rotten to the core. Who does that?

[B]

If you were to ever go back on Real Houses Miami, which I would really like, by the way, I would love you to go back on this show.

[C]

Would you like what?

[B]

Would you say this to her? Would you tell us to Alexia?

[C]

I don't know that they're worth my time to talk to. You know, after that last reunion when they all attacked me and they, they all came at me. I find out later from my friend that owns a dress store that they had been in the dress store practicing how they were going to bring me down all week. They had scripts and they had ideas and who was going to say what, how they're going to bring me down. I'm walking into Houston's with Roy and Roy Jr. The restaurant the next day after the reunion and she's calling me, hey, let's get together. How you doing? I'm like, what are you talking about? And I said, what do you. Why would I want to ever talk to you? And she goes, oh, that was just off. That was all just for the show. I'm like, no, nothing's ever just for the show. We don't do things just for the show. That's not who we are. That's not who I am. You know, could I go back on that show? They'd all have to wear name tags because you can't recognize any of them.

[B]

Years ago.

[A]

Larsa looks exactly the same. Leah. You know who actually does, you know who actually does look the same that.

[C]

I've never had a crossword with? I have no issues with Larsa. She's always been very good to me and her husband too. He, he's a stand up guy. I've always had no issues with him.

[A]

Yeah, you're friends with Anna still, you know who looks exactly the same? Lisa Hochstein. She looks exactly the same. I think because she, you know, maybe she went a little too far early on and so it's kind of, I don't know, I think she looks exactly the same as she used to. Yeah, she's maintained. There's a question in here. What cast member put some kind of a Santeria curse on you or something? Oh, that was Marisol So what's the story of that? Because I forget that.

[C]

So I was at the opening of the SLS hotel. I forget after season one, and I run into Christy Rice, and everybody knows we kind of had some conflict. That kind of conflict that we had is like Disneyland conflict of this stuff, right?

[B]

Going to the gala, right?

[C]

Yeah. And she came up to me and she just, she, she told me, she said, my mother goes to this reader, and this reader had your picture and the drag queen's picture there and said that, you know, Marisol had asked them to put a hex on you to get you off the show. I just rolled my eyes like, okay, good luck with that. You know, But I just. The point is, it's who, who are you being in the matter in any given circumstance? I don't know anybody that's that dark that would put a hex on somebody to get them off of a TV show. I mean, it's just not in my consciousness. I, I grew up in Texas, where you have the key to the neighbor's door and everybody's rooting for you and everybody wants you to be fabulous. And, you know, I was shocked. The behavior was just. I was blindsided by the behavior, and I couldn't even wrap my head around it. I was like, what? And so I didn't even know they had people that put X's on people, but apparently it's a thing. Santeria is a thing. That was my first experience with it on the show. I'm just kidding.

[B]

Do you think that maybe you'd be a better fit on Beverly Hills? I mean, because that's the other thing is that, like, you know, you have a house here in la. Like, maybe Beverly Hills, I would have.

[C]

Been a better fit for Beverly Hills because. Well, first, I, I, I love some of the girls on there. I, I really do. Some of them where the audience likes them or not. I know who they are, and maybe they don't come across that way on the show, but there are some really good people on that show. I love the producer of that show, Alex Baskin, and I. And I like some of the girls on the show, and I like that it was highbrow gossip and fighting, you know, not gutter skank, and I like that. So, yeah, I probably would have been a better fit. But on the other hand, you've got to realize in la, there's probably a line from my house in the Hollywood Hills to the grove of young, beautiful girls that want to be on that show, so it's never a contender. Do you understand what I mean? It's like there's like, way too many people with bigger names, too gorgeous, too fabulous, too rich, too famous in line ahead of me to ever be on the show. So it was never even really. I never really thought about it. It wouldn't happen. But would I be a friend? I would have been a better. I would have been a better fit for that show, I think. Would I be a friend of what?

[B]

A friend? Like, would you be on Beverly Hills if they said, hey, we want you to be a friend of. Of the cast or something like that?

[C]

I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't rule it out. It's not something I haven't really thought about. I guess it would depend on who I was friends with. If it was authentic, I might consider it. If it was fake, I wouldn't do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Were you friends with. On the cast right now?

[C]

Is it like in Beverly Hills? I wouldn't say I'm friendly. I was very friendly with Lisa Rinna. I adore her. I was always friendly with Lisa and Ken. I. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Erica Jane, what she's been through and the way she came out on the other side. I mean, who doesn't applaud that? So, yeah, you know, I'd have to think about who else. But yeah, for the most part.

[A]

Oh, Lord.

[C]

And Kyle. I was friendly with Kyle. You know, I've been.

[A]

Oh, my gosh, we'd go crazy with you.

[C]

And I wouldn't say friendly, friendly with her.

[A]

Time for a commercial. It's time for a Grappens commercial.

[C]

Yeah, you know, I should.

[A]

We should do the replay. Erica, Zane and Kyle, we'd be arguing all the time in real life.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Believe me, I don't. I wouldn't probably say she even knows who I am, but I have interacted with her a few times. I don't have any issues. I don't know. I like the girls on the show because I feel like that they brought their A game every time. You know what I mean? Do you remember how many hours they spend in hair and makeup and wardrobe to go on that show? So, no, I couldn't do the show. I wouldn't be able to do the show for that reason.

[B]

Yeah, but you know what's so great about you is that you really do just say what's on your mind and you. You give your opinion very unfiltered and such, and Beverly Hills is such a show where they are so filtered.

[A]

And they are.

[B]

So they are. They clutch their pearls all the time. And I would love someone like you just to come in and just, just, just say things like, just be, you know, like.

[C]

You gotta realize in Beverly Hills, this is just a part time gig for them and a stepping stone for some big movie part they want to be in or some big Broadway show they want to be in or some big influencer thing they want to do. So they kind of have to watch their minds and, you know, mind their, their, their manners a little bit because they're one, they're seeing the bigger picture in Miami. They never saw the bigger picture when I, when they were plotting against me. What I was plotting was a cooking line for one girl, a lingerie line for another girl, a fitness line for another girl. I had them all lined up as how I could market them, brand them, sell their products and give them, build them a little mini empire that they could have residual passive income for the rest of their life. That's what I was doing while they were plotting to bring me down. That's the difference between me and them.

[A]

You're even like that with us. I mean, you tell me every time I see, what are you selling? What are you selling?

[C]

Sell it.

[B]

Sell something.

[C]

I love people. I love to promote people and I love to make, have other people make money off of my ideas. And I love to train and motivate women to earn what they're worth rather than what someone's willing to pay them. And that's what I do and who I am. And I was blindsided by this. We have to bring you down and torture you and lie about you and make you look bad in order to be a star on this show. Well, what are you talking about? You're not a star. Your personality, it's not a show. It's. I don't even know what it is. And within their mind, they're moving stars and their mind, they're the new stars.

[A]

Yeah, well, you know, Alexia had a big thing on the show where she was like, I'm a star. You know, I'm a star. Okay? And so that was a big thing. They all got mad at her because she said she was born to be the star. Yeah, I was born a star. So that was actually. That's funny that you bring that up.

[C]

Telling you the self awareness, it's so shameless. You can't embarrass them.

[A]

By the way, someone else in the comment just said, I can't stop looking at the croissants behind Leah on the picture. See, it's not just me looking at.

[B]

Those and thinking, I thought those were donuts.

[A]

No, they're pumpkins.

[B]

Oh, they're pumpkins.

[C]

Does all the graphics and media and packaging and everything. He's really brilliant. Those are pumpkins. I guess because it's coming up on Thanksgiving.

[A]

Yeah, it's fall. You got to get your pumpkin in there. I know, I see. Croissants.

[C]

All right, Leah, one of my skincare products right there.

[A]

Yeah, I was going to say, speaking of businesses and growing businesses, tell us what's going on with Leah Black Skincare.

[C]

Well, you know, I've been doing this since I was 20 years old. I branded and ran two or three skincare companies of my own. And I pioneered the CBD line, literally got it approved and pioneered and got it into my skin care line. And I have a full, complete line. A lot of it is CBD based and the results are visual. You see the results immediately. And people, when they become a customer, they rarely leave. They always stay with me. So I pride myself in the best customer service and the best quality of raw ingredients that you can get in a skincare line. It's all science based. It's all backed up with testimonials before is after science, data, research, development, all of that. It's not a lick and stick line. You know, some people call 1-800-skin care and order their product and put their name on it, but they have a vanity project. It's not that it's like, you know, we actually really do the work. So I have, you know, every day wake up, you wash your face with the wash, the wash, or you could use the exfoliant if you want. And then you put on a moisturizer. Could be the CBD moisturizer, it could be the regular moisturizer or it could be the really intense moisturizer. And then I have an oil that's 1,000 milligrams of CBD, which I don't think anybody has a thousand milligrams of CBD in their oil. And I use that at night. And then I use the non surgical facelift kit, which is really what built the company. It's a mask you put on that lifts, tones, firms, opens up the pores, cleans out the pores and really lifts, tones, firms and tightens the skin. And then your favorite product that you like are the iPads. And I can't believe you're not wearing them for this fabulous presentation.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I left mine in Texas. And you can really tell I've got some, some.

[C]

It does get rid of the puffiness and the bags. Then I have the shampoo and I have the chest pads too. You know, women age in their chest. So I have these iPads that you can put. And I have them in the size for your hands and for your. Look. Let me show you.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

You can just, you can put your glasses on and go to the grocery store.

[A]

Just, just keep on going. So what did you put together for you that.

[C]

Because I wanted to introduce this to your, your audience. I've been with your audience and been with you for all these years and we've never talked about the product on there. And I know you don't want to turn it into an infomercial and I don't mean to. I just want your customers to have the benefit of trying the product. So I put together a 99 package where they can get the iPads. A box of the iPads come in a box and they can get the eye cream for $99. It's valued at $218. And if the shipping is free and they can do that up through the November 24th.

[A]

And then how do they, how do they do it?

[C]

Okay. And then if they don't want those, they can get 25% off on anything else they want in the line until the 31st of October with the. You're going to love this with the promo code crappensblack.com and there will be a banner to click on. It's very simple.

[A]

Okay, I love it. Right on. Well, get some, get some. And send me some of those iPads. I need some.

[C]

And they're good on the chest too. And hands.

[A]

Well, I'm not even looking that far down. You know, at this point. This is all, this is all. I look at the waddle up.

[C]

Refrigerator too. People like these in the refrigerator because they're.

[A]

Yeah. Do you have any waddle? Do you have any waddle stuff? Yeah.

[C]

I don't want to get political, but you know, there's a picture out there right now on the COVID Time magazine where somebody makes your water look like it's.

[A]

I look downright presidential. Is that what you're telling me? That's funny. All right, Leo, we sure love you, everybody. Follow Leo. Love you, Leah. On Instagram at Leah Black Miami, you'll find links in Links links in bio there. Go to leahblack.com I see you in Texas special. Yes, I'll be back soon. You know, I'll be back there soon. So we'll hang out there, and then we'll see you when you come back here to finish up the house and stuff like that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But we sure love you. And thanks for so much for coming on here, baby.

[C]

I've never done a 99 special, and it's just for you guys because I really want your audience to love my products. And I love you. I hope you invite me back.

[A]

We love you. Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thanks for the tea, Leah. We'll talk to you later. Later.

[C]

I know I'm in trouble. Probably.

[A]

Probably. Love you. It's a good kind, though. Yeah. I love that she's so willing to just come on and say whatever the hell she wants to. That's so. That's so refreshing to meet someone who really doesn't give a crap if they're back on the show or not, you know, because most people, I feel like, are always trying to get back on. It's like, screw those people. Why would I want to hang out with them anyway, you know?

[B]

No, I. I really, I. I don't. Every time I say I want Leah Black back on the Real Housewives, it's not because we know her or not because she was like our first guest ever on Crappins. It truly is because I find her endlessly entertaining. And she does. She just does cut right through the. So, like, if Kyle were to say some on Beverly Hills, I just would love Leah to be like, well, that's.

[A]

Ridiculous, you know, And.

[B]

Well, you never said that. The other day you went to the mall. You said you weren't going to go to the mall. Then you went to the mall, and now here I am, and we. Now. Now you're saying you're telling all these different people you went to the mall, but I know you didn't go to the mall. So which one is it? I don't understand. I'd be like, I would be ready. I'm ready for that. I want that on my Beverly Hills.

[A]

Yeah, well, we'll see. Time will tell. All right, so let's get into some Bravo headlines for the week. So a lot of you. This is two weeks later, right, Than our last crappy hour. And of course, right after we do crappy hour, Wendy and Eddie get arrested of Real Housewives of Potomac. That was very shortly after we did our last crappy hour. So we talked about. We've talked about that at length in a couple of recaps already, but just to kind of review, because people who don't listen to every recap want us to talk about that. So what Say you. I mean, there's breaking down their arrest. I'm sure you guys all know by now what happened. It's basically insurance fraud that they're accused of faking a robbery in their home, saying that someone broke in, stole all this stuff. Well, then they find out that a lot of the purses and Birkins and outfits and stuff that. That they said were stolen were actually returned for money. And there was an email that Eddie sent Wendy that was like, hey, can we add anything onto this insurance claim? Because I really want to max out the insurance. I really want to max that. I mean, they weren't very bright about it. Also, there was ring. They have ring cameras, but there was no footage of anybody entering or leaving the home. There are motion sensors in the home. They never went off. So it just wasn't the brightest trickery, for sure. So what have you heard since the arrest and stuff? Ben, what are some updates?

[B]

Well, they've been sort of quiet. Nothing has really happened. However, she did break her silence yesterday. And if you want to hear what her statement is, be prepared to be underwhelmed. Because, of course, there were headlines on, like, EW and people that were like, Dr. Wendy AO breaks her silence. And then it was basically just her saying, do it all. God remains faithful. Like, okay, well, yeah, I know. Thank you for the outpouring of love, support, and prayers for myself and most importantly, my family during this time. We are forever grateful. Pray hands. And then she tells everyone to tune in to, like, tonight's Real Housewives of Potomac. So, you know, she's. She hasn't really said anything yet, but I did see there was report that I guess there was crushing. They had crushing debt is what I read in one area. So that's one of the things that they. The investigators flagged. So I don't know. Like, I still feel like there's a lot more yarn to pull from this yarn ball.

[A]

Yeah. So I think we're just gonna have to wait and see. I was kind of annoyed at first because she was supposed to be the first wife swap episode that aired of that show, and they pulled the episode, and so there was a lot of talk, like, is Wendy getting fired? Did they get rid of her wife swap episode? Thankfully, it looks like they put it back on the schedule for later in the season. They just took.

[B]

Yeah, it's actually. It's actually scheduled for November 9th, which is so funny because the sentencing is on November 7th. Wow. Good to see that Bravo is still up to its shenanigans. They're literally gonna air the show two days after her sentencing.

[A]

Well, I thought it was kind of bad for them because that would be so much hearing. Hearing. But I thought that it would be such good publicity. Well, not great publicity, but it would be publicity for Y swap to have just aired it that it seemed weird that they didn't air it. But I guess maybe they found something they could get more ratings for. I mean, I don't know. I think that maybe ride the publicity wave.

[B]

But I think they don't want to look too much like they're exploiting criminals, you know, or really bad behavior because there is still the. The specter of Bethany out there being like reality reckoning.

[C]

Reality reckoning.

[B]

You know, like these are the things that Bravo encourages its stars to do. So like they, you know, they need to pretend like they don't condone this sort of stuff. But I'm sure, I'm sure people will watch this episode of Wendy's Wife Swap for sure. Looking for clues for, you know.

[A]

Yeah, they'll be watching with magnifying glasses. Heck yeah. I mean, even in the real episodes now I was watching Potomac, like, where did you get that outfit that you're wearing to the bench at the river to have this scene? And why are you wearing that? You know, you start watching everything differently. So that's Wendy. I mean, I don't know. It's only been a couple of weeks, but yeah, that's the thing about only doing crappy hour every couple of weeks. You know, like, I'm bored. I feel like they've already been to present, been out and it's time for the redemption season. That's. Yeah, this is definitely a storylines work on me.

[B]

I am, I'm very interested to see the next Beats a few beats in the stand scandal because I think it's fascinating. Like I really, I really can't believe that these two seemingly very intelligent people got in, went down this path and like that's, that's wildly, you know, fascinating to me. So I'm definitely going to be tuning in to all the story beats, but there really is nothing that's happened since. Since the arrest. You know, the initial shock has worn down. And so, you know, it felt definitely funny when the tagline was I put the high in higher education because it's like we are a little concerned that maybe, maybe too much higher education went into this plan that you guys went into because it's not working out for you.

[A]

Yeah, well, something that I've been more interested in than that, I think because this Is newer news is the Soup man controversy on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. I thought that was so hilarious when they got in that fight at the restaurant where, I don't know, there was a murder suicide in front of a dog and Lisa accused Angie of having an affair with someone named the Soup Man. And so we thought that was hilarious, obviously. Well, of course, leave it to the Internet to give us reasons to make even a conspiracy about a Soup Man. Now I was googling who is the Soup Man? But there were some Reddit threads recently because Sophia Franklin, who is she used to be the co host of Call Her Daddy back in the day before they broke up and that became a single host hosted show. She has her own podcast now. And she was talking to Meredith at some point and was saying, you know what's really weird is that like, I think Angie dated my ex once. And then Meredith went off and on and on about Angie and kind of didn't get into that. But apparently Sophia used to refer to her ex boyfriend as Suitman and he's in Salt Lake City. So now everybody is saying, oh, it wasn't Soup man, it was Suit Man. And so everybody thinks that Angie has been having an affair or was having an affair a while ago named Suitman, who is apparently. I'm getting this from a comment on Reddit. Suitman, according to Google, is Peter Nelson. He worked as an executive VP for HBO Sports and left in 2020. And he's a Harvard graduate in Ancient Greek.

[B]

Oh, that's the. It all seems like, like a little far fetched. But then that, that little element there. Ooh, a Harvard graduate in Ancient Greek. Yes, That's a damning correlation.

[A]

That's crazy, right? And so all of this is just gossip. Like, who knows if any of this is true. The only reason I'm repeating it is because it's out there. It's everywhere. You know, I've been seeing it all over the place and because Sophia Franklin brought it up on her show, so it would be interesting to see what happens. I hope it's not true because I don't want Angie getting in trouble. I like Angie, obviously.

[B]

So yeah, I hope it's not true either. But I think if it is true, the funniest part about it is that of course Lisa Barlow butchers it and goes on to national TV and says, I heard all the rumors about you and the Soup Man. It's like, the Soup man. This is how things, this is how rumors start. What? It's a Soup man and you turn him into the soup, man. Like, it doesn't even make it. That's just classically Sabarlo right there.

[A]

Yeah. So there's other stuff going on in relationships. On Bravo, we've got what's her Buns Beerman. Ariana Biermann broke up with her boyfriend, and MJ and Tommy filed for divorce.

[B]

I didn't know about that.

[A]

Yeah, that just.

[B]

Someone just said it right there.

[A]

Yeah, I think that was just announced. And Aaron Phipper is that mother. Effer was just thrown in jail. He got arrested for abusing Denise. They went into court, and she was detailing some of the abuse, and they arrested his ass right in court, and he's out today on a $200,000 bail. So I hope that. That. That one rots. What a piece of crap that guy is. And I hope your parents rot too, and I hope somebody kicks him out of that damn house. You're a disgusting human being, sir. So that's all the love stuff on Bravo that I could find. Wow.

[B]

I'm glad that they. I'm glad that he was arrested. I mean, what a piece of that guy is. He just. I mean, he is exactly what everyone always, always suspected him to be, you know, and they did a good job of, like, you know, pulling, like, the wool sort of over our eyes with the Denise Richards and her wild things and all that. But, you know, he is. He really is a user. And. And we definitely flagged it in the beginning of that show when Denise was, like, laughing off, oh, Aaron. Well, Aaron's family moved into our house, and now we're in condos that we're renting. We're like, why is this family. They moved in during COVID or something, and they're still there, but, like, something is not right with this situation.

[A]

Yeah. Not good. Oh, actually, that's not the end of the relationship talk, because Martina and Julia are staying together is what we're hearing from Real Housewives Miami and Julia Lemingova seeking treatment for PTSD after explosive outbursts on Real Housewives of Miami. It was a cry for help. So Julia came out with a lot of articles the week of the. The week during the weeks of the reunion because she was getting so hammered. So one is that she had ptsd. So I hope we all feel bad for her. And also, she is starting opera school, which nobody deserves that.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's time. It's time to retire. The opera thing. Like, that was really. Should not have even come back for a second season. And. And it's too late. I'm Gonna say this right now. It's too late to go on your opera journey. I feel like your vocal cords are probably set in place. Everything is locked in. Sorry. The bread has been baked. Now it's time to just enjoy your moment on the display case, because this is not you. You just can't go back in there. Sorry. It's over.

[A]

Yeah, it's done. Give it up. Hang up the towel. What are you singing here that you want to talk about?

[B]

Well, I mean, if we're talking about singing, Ronnie, I mean, who am I to deny everyone from the news that there is a. Well, she's not a new Chantez, but she seems to have been inspired by one of her co stars on the Love Hotel. That's right. None other than Ashley. Ashley Darby went to 54 below, and she went and sang some show tunes. I'm gonna press play. Maybe we can. I think. I think you'll be able to hear it on. Wait, no, here, I'll set this. Is everyone ready to hear Ashley Darby singing at 54 below? All right, press play. And I press play. And then it gets the spinning circle. Thanks a lot. So maybe, like, the Internet's like. No, we are protecting you.

[A]

We are protecting the Internet. Doesn't want you getting ptsd.

[B]

Can you hear this?

[A]

Oh, she's making her play for Chicago, huh? Good luck to you.

[B]

It's not the worst we've heard, but it's a little community theater. She's in, like, a pink sparkly dress. So anyway.

[A]

Oh, wow. The reviews are in. I just want to tell you what the listeners are saying as that went on. No. How could you do this to us? Question mark? Stop that. Stop that. No, you stop it right now. Who okayed this? My ears are bleeding. Who's the piano player? That's my favorite. Who's the piano player?

[B]

She's like, yeah, she's the one person to sell Block Tango that everyone agrees. No, she should be there. No, he did not. None of us had that coming. None of us had that coming. It was not deserved. Not a justifiable crime. So that. That's like singing in the. In the world. Now, some other stuff that is in here. There. Where. Where was it? I mean, people were real. By the way, I was surprised how many people were really alarmed by Ariana and Hudson breaking up. I think they were more concerned for Kim Zolciak's sake, because I think Kim was really banking on that Hudson, that. That fried chicken money to. To. To be the next chapter of her life, literally. And that's gone. Yeah. So I am a little, you know, I think we're all a bit concerned for. For her on that front. And speaking of Atlanta, this is some news that just broke about like two hours ago. This is stupid but amusing, which is that Kelly, you may remember her from the. One of the newbies from Real Housewives of Atlanta. Because I know most people are like, who's Kelly? Like, she's. She's new housewife. She hired Phaedra to represent her in a court battle with her ex. Do you think that's a smart idea, Ronnie? Do you think that will actually be a productive use of Kelly's money?

[A]

You know, I don't know. I don't know how success. I mean, I know that she's been a lawyer for a long time. Obviously it's Phaedra Parks, but I don't know that I'd want like a undertaker lawyer. I mean, I don't.

[B]

She does.

[A]

She has her. She has her hands on her fingers in a lot of pots. You know what I mean? So, I don't know. I think I'd want someone maybe focused on, like, more focused on being a Laura. Do we hear of any, like, high power cases? I think the only case we saw her taking was that one where she was taking like a big briefcase of cash in a parking lot. And her first.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Remember?

[B]

Well, there's Bobby Brown. She. She represented Bobby Brown, which I think was her. Her clothes.

[A]

That went well, did it?

[B]

Probably not. There was the. The briefcase guy. Oh, wait. There was also the party planner who wanted to sue Candy. So. Yeah, that's. That's a positive endorsement. Yeah. I feel like this is maybe not Kelly's wisest move. I feel like. When was the last time Phaedra actually was practicing law?

[A]

I don't know. I think she's been practicing. Right. I think she's like an on, on again, off again law practice.

[B]

By the way, Michelle in the comments says, do you have hazel eyes, Ronnie?

[A]

I do.

[B]

Like Kelly Clarkson.

[A]

Yes. I do have hazel eyes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can start to. You can tell a little more in the dark because the. The light is brighter on my face.

[B]

I think mine are brown, but I'm like, mine change my eyes. The lights can get into it in bright light.

[A]

Mine will become hazel. Or if I'm in a park or something like that, that's green. They'll turn bright green. It's really weird.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your eyes are cool. So hazel right now. Yeah, they're super hazel.

[A]

They're hazel.

[B]

Big hazel energy.

[A]

Did we Already go over the Brit Edie video that she made in a pool. Did we already talk about this in Atlanta? So she's in the pool, I guess, with a friend and her husband, and she's just, you know, going on and on about, you know, fuck those people. She means a bitch. And they want to talk about my videos. Oh, yeah? Well, what about Shamia's porn? There's Shamia porn, and you can find it on the Internet. So go look for it, everybody, because you'll find Shamia porn. I mean, it was a really long video. I watched a lot of it, but that was the gist of it. You know, she's. She's never coming back to the show. She's too good for. Why would she even go to the reunion? No one deserved her time. They're all a bunch of liars. And Shamia has porn on the Internet.

[B]

Yeah. It seems like a weird thing to proclaim while you're simultaneously suing Bravo for, like, a bad work environment because someone was claiming that there was porn of you being displayed at an event. So you just go around and you do it to Shamia, who was like, not part of that. It just goes to show what trash Britt Edie is. And, like, if you're gonna quit a show, quit a show, but don't quit a show. And then, you know, just keep complaining about it and trying to stay relevant on the show. If you want to stay relevant on the show, you would have stayed with the show and it wouldn't have been so ridiculous. Not that we wanted you to stay. I'm happy that Britt Edie is gone. One of the worst casting choices of all time for Bravo. I think she's, like, down there with Diana Jenkins.

[A]

Yeah, she was not good.

[B]

Although I would. I would. I would argue that Diana Jenkins. Diana Jenkins was probably one of the most vile people that Bravo ever hired, but I would argue that Diana Jenkins had a lot of campy appeal because she was so awful, but she had that kind of, like, European villainess energy that, like, is, like, very funny to me as, like, a gay man. But Brit Edie just didn't even bring camp. She just was like, trash. Lying trash. And I said good riddance to her.

[A]

Yeah. Why? Gosh. So.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

So there's just some stuff that I'm reading in the comments here. Sarah says Adriana was on a podcast where she said one of the reasons Julia's daughters is upset with her is because Julia used the daughter to care for Martina while she was away in Europe for facial Surgery.

[B]

Oh, and that gets to a little bit of what Gertie was talking about. When Gertie brought up the face, the, the, the. The facelift at the wedding, that was one of the precursors to Julia tossing the water in her face. Julia is obviously very sensitive about that because Gertie said something along the lines of, while Martina is, like, sick, you went off and got yourself a facelift. And so especially if the daughter is then the one who had to take care of Martina during that time, then. Yeah, I can imagine that adds some, Some. Some texture to that situation.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of Miami, there. So there was. There was a thing recently with Gertie she was commenting on. She's speaking with Emily Hanks. Hi, Emily. Love ya. She was speaking on her Instagram recent post and Julia's social worker left a comment. So Gertie says, no, I did not offer to get on the cruise. She asked me. And that's what. That's what my text messages proved. Till this day, I still don't know why my text messages were blurred in the first place.

[C]

Place.

[A]

There was no big reveal. No big reveal. Except for the simple fact. Shrug. Shrug emoji. This is a shrug emoji with a shaking head. Okay. But blurring them made it seem like I was exposing intimate details, which I would never do. I would never do that. So then there's a comment by Connie going that says, at Gertie Design, you are the eternal victim. You get four dots in this ellipses move on space dot com. This show defines no one space dot. So, Connie, I'm sorry, but Connie typing a comment like my mom spaces before periods. Four periods in an ellipse. And Gertie responds, Hi, Connie, I recognize you from our show. You are Julia's social worker, but did she pay you a bonus to also be on her social media spokesperson? Stay out of this and stick to foster caring. I will publicly expose all the nasty comments you have wrote about me and sent me three. Three periods and an ellipses. And if you've seen the show, you know I will. So keep it up, Connie. Thumbs up emoji.

[B]

Maybe she is Julia's social worker. Like, she literally works on her social media. Like that's truly what the social is.

[A]

Oh, she's a. She's the social worker getting the kids for her and going and fighting for Julia on comments on Instagram.

[B]

Grow up, Connie going, yeah, come on, Connie. I have something that I'm loath to bring up because, you know, I don't really like to talk about this at all. Oh, really?

[A]

Well, keep it up, Connie. Keep it up.

[C]

Keep it up. Keep it up.

[B]

Yeah, though. But I feel like. I feel like I should mention this, but there is McBee Dynasty news.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Which is that Stephen McBee was sentenced. It's. It's happened. It's happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Stephen McBee Senior, America's Sweetheart. He is. He's going to jail for two years for fraud. See, now the thing is this, him going to jail for fraud, like, that's not shocking. That's not like Wendy Osefo shocking. You look at this guy and you say, this is someone who's going to commit fraud if he hasn't already, you know, so, yeah. Two years. Two years behind bars.

[A]

I wonder who. First season. You're like, this guy's totally going to jail at some point because he kept saying, oh, you know, our equipment's always getting stolen. And you know, guys, if we have one more insurance claim, we're in trouble. We can't have another insurance claim. And it's like, I mean, it seems so obvious now looking back, you know. So, yeah, he got a couple of years. So it'll be interesting for the. To see because the boys also got a season three of the show. So they picked up filming to watch his sentencing or to film his sentencing. And I guess that they're going to be shooting a third season of that show. So we will be seeing how the boys are dealing with the most most important farm in.

[B]

What's the.

[A]

What's the name of their place that they live?

[B]

Missouri. In Gatlin.

[A]

In Gatlin, Missouri. Yeah. In Gatlin.

[B]

It's the most important. You are the most pessimistic person I ever met about farms. Sentencing. That's also. When Cole tries to form a thought. They call that sentencing.

[A]

He.

[B]

They. Speaking of Cole, he posted a story and it's a picture from the wedding, from Jesse's wedding. It's like Jesse and What's the name of his wife?

[C]

Wife.

[B]

Like Claire or something like that. What's her name? Lydia. Lindsay.

[A]

Just. I don't know. I don't. I don't remember the wife. Whatever her name is. I'm there for Jesse. I'm just there.

[B]

Yes. So Jesse and. And whatever her face was.

[A]

I know the mom is Christy.

[B]

Christy is the mom. There's Cole and then lady Cole and then there's Steve Senior and then there's a Caitlin.

[A]

There should be a Beth, but I don't think there is a bath. I feel like it should be, though.

[B]

What's the Name of the. The blonde twit. The young one. I see. I've already purged their names. Yeah, I don't know.

[A]

I don't remember.

[B]

She. Kayla. Kin. Whatever her name is. Oh, she's the worst Cola. Cola.

[A]

Kayla.

[B]

Her name is Kayla.

[A]

No, Kayla is his ex girlfriend. Kayla is main guy Steven's X. Yeah, right.

[B]

So she's so. So we see all. All the McBees. They're all standing and it says, we will get through anything together to the hardest working man.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's our turn to be here for you. We got you, dad. Like, yeah, you'll get through anything except for, like a splash of coffee or, like, some Kool Aid because you guys are wearing so much white right now, and you guys will all crumble to bits the moment that gets stained. That's like. All I want to do is just take some sort of, like, vividly red liquid and splash it at that Instagram story right now.

[A]

Oh, so they wore. They all wore white on an Instagram story about their dad being.

[B]

It's supposed to 1.

[A]

It's a little on the nose.

[B]

Guys, wedding photo.

[A]

It's a wedding.

[B]

It's like nothing shows how we stand strong like standing here behind a bride and a groom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With a octagonal arch. Not so far away.

[A]

Hexagonal band. That was hexagonal.

[B]

Hexagonal. Hexagonal.

[A]

Well, he went to jail. Another shocking arrest was Camille from below deck. She was arrested for a dui.

[B]

This is like my favorite thing that I read. Yeah, that idiot. She's an idiot in so many different ways. And now she's added another dimension to it.

[A]

Well, that's a lot of people being arrested and breaking up and being thrown in jail and being almost thrown in jail. I mean, come on. There's a lot of. A lot of court. You know who's working right now on Bravo? People in the court system. They have a very busy time in Bravo news right now because there's a lot going on.

[B]

Did you see Camille's mug shot?

[A]

Not it.

[B]

It. I'm gonna tell you this right now. Not as good as Wendy and Eddie's. Camille looks like she literally just, like, crashed right through a 711 or something. She does not. This is a rough mug shot, as Bravo shots go. This is probably bottom three.

[A]

It's also a terrible camera that they're using. It's like a very grainy. It's not very good, but she is. It does say she's six feet. Is that true? Oh, no, she's five foot six. Sorry. I was reading it wrong. I was like, damn, she's six feet.

[B]

Yeah, she looks a little rough.

[A]

She looks rough and she's wearing like a little jewel tear on her. The very edge of her eyes.

[B]

She's. She's peaked. She's done.

[A]

Yeah, she's done. You cooked your cooks, Camille. Well, I think it's time to turn this over and talk to some of our listeners. What say you ban it?

[B]

Sounds like a great idea. Let's do it.

[A]

All right, everybody who's just listening, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks to Leah Black for being here. Follow Leah at Leah Black Miami on Instagram. Go get her crappin's $99 [e-mail] or if you want to find links in bio, do that. Go to LeahBlack Miami on Instagram, go to link in bio, find all her stuff, Go buy her stuff. And thanks, Leah. And everybody on audio, we'll talk to you next time. Everybody on video, if you want to come up here and keep chatting for the next 10, 15 minutes or so, we will put a link up for you and everyone else will talk to you next time. Bye.

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