Brandi Glanville (2:46)

This was. Oh, my gosh, this was crazy. I mean, good for Olivia. She's like, I'm showing up in my pantaloons and I'm giving this woman the business and that's it. And I love that. She was just like, hell, no, lady. You don't call me. You don't make any effort towards me, and then you want to have a little pity on tv. So you're going to have me come to some coffee shop and I'm supposed to, like, jump in your arms and start crying over steamers? You got another fucking thing coming, lady. You remember last time you tried this shit? You made out with your boyfriend in front of me the whole time. And that's the last time you tried to see me. So thanks. But it would be nice if you actually made an effort, you know, that didn't involve a man being there or you being on a fucking camera, you know? You know, I was like, damn, Olivia for President. Jesus.

Tinsley Mortimer (3:31)

She was amazingly self possessed. She really was like, we've seen a lot of these teenagers, these. That they come on. They're usually a bit timid or they're kind of nervous or, I don't know, they. They kind of mumbled through their. Their. Their issues. And she was just like, nope. I've been down this road with you before, mother, and I'm not gonna let you get away with it. Now America will see how you treat me. I was like, yes, she was great.

Brandi Glanville (3:57)

So she's like, oh, yeah. I just. I don't even know how that happened. I really don't. I've just been in the habit of choosing men for so long because, you know, I have kids that I don't even get to see. And she's like, oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. You're not going to put that on us. You don't get to talk about how sad you are because you have kids who don't talk to you. She's like, no, but I'm not. I'm really trying. I'm trying to get to know you. You like steamers. I got you a steamer. Here we. Steamers.

Tinsley Mortimer (4:23)

So then we see Olivia. She actually speak. It's sort of amazing. We've never even met Olivia, and now she already has, like, a confessional towards us. She looks great. She's all glammed up. She's gorgeous. She's like, my mom was everything you'd want of a mom. So present in our lives. Every field trip, every dance recital, every school talent show, she was there, and she was so much fun. I was 12 when she got remarried, and it was like somebody flipped a switch in her brain to turn that person off completely. So, like, to go from, I love my mom, she comes with me to everything, to begging her for attention. It was so hard because I knew that she can be a loving mother who cares about her kids. I know it's in her. It's like, damn, that's awful that Olivia had to go through that and goes through it currently.

Brandi Glanville (5:04)

And such a crazy switch to flip because usually you. I don't think I've heard this before where it's like, she was amazing. Like, she went to every dance, every, you know, every class, every recital. She was there. You know, we see all these pictures of them being happy and hanging out, and it's like. And then suddenly she just didn't ever want anything to do with me because she found a man. I mean, that's just fucking crazy. And she's like, I think it's important that you take accountability and realize I wanted a mom. I mean, what kid is like, I don't want my mom to raise me, you know, Like, I can't wait to talk to my dad about periods. And Olivia's like, oh, I know. But, you know, that's sad. That's sad, Olivia. And I'm so sorry, but I just. I don't know how to make it better. I mean, I just don't know how I can't go back. And she's like, yeah, I know, but I put yourself. And I put myself in your shoes, and I think, I would never do that. So why did you do that? And she's like, I don't know. It's not the right answer, girl. Like, you. Like, I'm. I know this isn't going the way that you thought it was going to go on camera, but you can't just do this to somebody and then just be like, I don't know. Water under the brid.

Tinsley Mortimer (6:17)

Right, Olivia? Well, I have a question. Have you ever seen the wolf cry at the blue corn? Mother, stop doing Pocahontas. You can't do that. Every time we have a tough conversation.

Brandi Glanville (6:30)

She'S like, listen here, touring company. I'm not gonna listen to that. Listen to that. Off brand Judy Kuhn. Okay, I'm not going for that.

Tinsley Mortimer (6:41)

So she's like, yeah, amusement park Singer?

Brandi Glanville (6:46)

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not here for a non union apology, okay? And Olivia's like, well, I feel like it's important for you to figure out why you prioritize a relationship with a man over me so it doesn't happen again, because that's my worst fear. And she starts crying and she's like, I mean, it felt like it was me, like I was the one who did something wrong. She goes, I'm so sorry. Of course it's not you. Of course it's not you. It was me. And she's like, but why? And she goes, I just. I don't know. I mean, you were there. You were cute. But someone thought I was hot. What do you want me to say? Have you never felt a spotlight on your face?

Tinsley Mortimer (7:27)

Mother, you cannot weird al the Pocahontas lyrics and see what you're doing. So, Brittany, have you ever felt a spotlight? Brittany is like, I'm sorry. You're my precious baby that you know nothing about. But I really want to get to know again. Like, you still like steamers, right? Mother, get off the steamers. I don't. I don't know what you're talking about. I was four. Okay, look, I would love the. I just would love the opportunity, okay, if you'll. If you'll let me get to know you. Well, I just don't want to get hurt again. Sorry.

Brandi Glanville (7:57)

Why are you rubbing a cactus? Your. Your hands are bleeding. Something I do now. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't you.

Tinsley Mortimer (8:05)

When you were. Well, don't you remember when you were two, we looked at the cartoon cactus on TV and you loved it. You laughed so much. I was 2, mother. I was 2. I don't like cacti anym.

Brandi Glanville (8:14)

This whole scene was crazy to watch. This was crazy. And just the end with Britney doing her, like, Lifetime movie tears was. I just. It was cringy. And I felt so bad for Olivia, although, you know, good for her because apparently she has a really good dad, you know, and sister, because she is so confident and look knows exactly what she's feeling like, she's extremely in touch with what she's feeling. And it's so impressive that somebody, especially that young, can lay out exactly their problems. Like, here's exactly why I'm pissed. There's no, you know, acting out in other ways to kind of get around to the point. It's like, no, this is exactly why I'm pissed. When are you gonna stop doing this? And Britney's just like. I mean, yeah, Britney's just like, I don't know because I think I'm literally still doing it with Jared. So what can I tell you?

Tinsley Mortimer (9:07)

I think, you know, one thing that like, we. And by not just the two of us, but I think like the, the audience has always noticed about Britney is the way this group will just slam her left and right all the time. And she's like, guys. And we always laugh how like she just, she just keeps on taking it. Like she just. They will say the meanest things. Like last week Brahman was like, you guys, I think we could all agree we all have good hair, so let's stop making fun of each other. Well, of course, except for, except for Britney. It's just like she gets strays left and right. And it's like, funny because she just takes it. But it also kind of speaks to like this like, emotional shell that she has where I think that she just doesn't get like she's, she doesn't get the emotional input or understand. Like something is, something is kind of broken in her. And so when you see that applied to her relationship with her daughter, it's like, not as funny anymore because I mean, it'll still be funny when she receives strays, but like the way I think sort of like that emotional numbing that she has when, when she receives these strays, when it's applied to the, to how she's receiving very earnest and sincere cries for help from her daughter, it's like it, it lands in a very different way.

Brandi Glanville (10:15)

I think she's just a narcissist who loves attention and that's all she knows. And like, the lady is making fun of her. She doesn't care because she. It's funny, you know, she's on a TV show so she's being mentioned and that's all she cares about. Like, she showed up to an interview last week, you know, after they did the Vanity Fair. They did the Vanity Fair article and all the ladies were featured as Desperate Housewives. It was, you know, a play on that shoot or an homage to that shoot. And so everybody showed up in the same bathing suits and did the same poses. And Brittany was like the only one who was left out of it. So she showed up to the interview wearing a bikini, you know, Wearing.

Tinsley Mortimer (10:51)

Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (10:52)

And like, it's funny because, like, haha. But it's also just somebody who has. It's just shameless, you know, it's just.

Tinsley Mortimer (11:02)

Because she was like, guys, I just had to, I had to wear this. I mean, come on. Right? Of course I Had to wear it. I'm like, you didn't have to. Was it like everyone, no one was crying out being like, oh my God, Britney must wear a swimsuit. That'd be hilarious. She thinks that though it does speak to some sort of narcissistic quality that she has. So now let's go over to Meredith and Heather walking alongside a chain link fence with Snow white melting on the side.

Brandi Glanville (11:28)

I love a good old fashioned SLC scene. You know, this is like exterior of a junkyard. All right, let's do this scene. So they drive up and Heather's like, oh my God, are you driving yourself? Look at this. Meredith Marks is driving herself. I never thought I'd see it.

Tinsley Mortimer (11:50)

Yes, this is true, but it's been a tough 24 hours. Yesterday afternoon, my throat was getting sore. Sorry, Heather. And so I went and grabbed the coldies and I didn't even chew it. And I chipped a tooth on the candy somehow. And then Brooksie was walking around barefoot and I said, don't walk. You'll cut your foot on the tooth shark that's on the floor. It was very scary.

Brandi Glanville (12:16)

Then somehow I walked to the edge of the bathroom. I kicked my toe on the shower. That toe is blue. Backing away from that, I stepped on the Lego, waved my arms until I cracked my hand into a mirror and flew down the stairs. Head first. Tumble, tumble, tumble. Hit my head on the chandelier that fell down, crashed down on my knee. Before you knew it, I grabbed for anything I could. It was a fire poker. I started waving at the chandelier and electrocuted myself. And then the house started on fire. It was just quiet.

Tinsley Mortimer (12:53)

And then if I'm limping, when I tried to go upstairs to save my toddler, a paint can came swinging down on a rope and hit me in the forehead. And I said, oh my God. And then I went down to the boiler room. I burned myself on the boiler. One thing after another. Oh my God, I'll never go back to that house again.

Brandi Glanville (13:13)

It's like I was trying to rob my own parents house.

Tinsley Mortimer (13:20)

Well, that sounds awful. Well, is that why you're wearing those? Seems like this doesn't seem like the right shoes for this walk. Well, honestly, it's easier because my legs are conditioned to being in heels. I was. My mother put me in heels as soon as I came out of the womb. And I've actually never worn anything flat before, so I actually have feet. They're in the shape of pumps.

Brandi Glanville (13:41)

So funny. She's like my, I'm conditioned To being in heels. So what's healthier?

Tinsley Mortimer (13:50)

Wow. Anyway, this is a beautiful environment that you've chosen for us. I love the way the sun hits that dirty snow over there in the corner. It's very scenic.

Brandi Glanville (13:59)

Well, can we talk about the garden party that quickly turns? Well, I went shopping with Lisa, and there was part of me that felt like I wasn't getting through at all. I mean, how many times do you have to say sisterhood before a person gets it, you know? Oh, gosh. And, you know, I love Lisa. I've always loved Lisa, haven't I? And I just want to defend her, don't I?

Tinsley Mortimer (14:19)

Oh.

Brandi Glanville (14:19)

But I also don't want to be a fool because, you know, also, I wasn't Lisa's friend for a while. And this is very recent, so it's the first time I'm seeing how she pulls you in and kind of slings the mud. And like, I used to think she was truly fearless, and now I'm wondering if she was fearless. She'd just say these things to our faces and not drop them in other people's buckets. She does say them to your faces. You are such a manipulator. I cannot believe you. Not only did you start this whole war between everybody, but now you're sitting here acting like she's saying things behind your back. And everything that she said, she said to your all's face.

Tinsley Mortimer (14:51)

And also her saying, like, Heather saying, wow, you know, this. I. Now I'm seeing how she pulls you in and then slings mud. I was like, heather, this is what you would always accuse her of for the first three seasons of the show. Three or four seasons. And her. And I love Heather being like, I always thought Lisa Barlo was fearless. Oh, come on.

Brandi Glanville (15:13)

So she's like, yeah. I mean, it feels like the pieces are falling into places. Like, you know, she has a very specific move, and that's to dig up dark skeletons. I think the best. And I mean, this is a compliment, but I think the best detective work on this show wasn't that you who found Monica's. You know, Monica? I think that was the best detective work. I mean, the. What. What would you blame Lisa for doing detective work on? I think she's gotten caught on the necklace thing, but I don't even think that was bad because Brahma was not lying about the necklace, which we found out later. And what else was there? Am I forgetting something?

Tinsley Mortimer (15:53)

I'm not sure. Well, maybe Lisa was behind saying that Angie was in the Greek mafia that same season. I'M not sure. I don't know if I don't know what other stuff Lisa has. Well, Lisa will. What Lisa does is she throws out accusations. That's not what I heard. I heard that you were doing this or that. Like, she does kind of like, remember at the end of last season, she. She said something kind of like. Well, I heard that you were doing three sums. I think she said that to Angie or what? She sort of. She hurdles. She hurls rumors that she may or may not.

Brandi Glanville (16:25)

Monica Garcia brought up the Greek mafia stuff, and Meredith Marks was accused of bringing up the rumors.

Tinsley Mortimer (16:31)

I had to Google it was. I apologize.

Brandi Glanville (16:34)

No, I mean, there's a lot. So much happens on this show. You know, like, you have to look.

Tinsley Mortimer (16:38)

Heather's like, well, it made me think, why did you let Lisa off the hook at Whitney's party? That was supposed to be the time when you turn on her. That's why we were all there. Well, the thing is, when Lisa and I had our falling out a couple of years ago, she did profusely apologize to me for years.

Brandi Glanville (16:56)

You know why? Because she got caught red handed and she couldn't deflect and she couldn't avoid it and she couldn't bob and weave and she was caught, and so she owned it. Yeah, but that wasn't even talking behind her back. That was going off to herself in a bathroom on a mic when the mic was on. Right. That's what. Right.

Tinsley Mortimer (17:14)

Well, but then the question was whether or not she. She was, like, aware. Like, did she. Was it a hot mic moment intentionally or was it unintentional? That was always the debate. Meredith says, well, my view is that when somebody shows you who they are, you deal with them accordingly. Okay, but what if she didn't? Right? And you're gonna zero that. Like, what if she didn't?

Brandi Glanville (17:37)

She's like, but Meredith, she did it. I mean, God love her. We've known this woman for so many years. I mean, it tracks. You know, she's never going to say she did it and she's sorry. But it's kind of what Angie was saying. You know, she's done it to everyone at different times, and it just makes me doubt Lisa, and that's why I believe Angie. So, see, Heather's trying to submit. She's playing her hand too soon because she started the season, like, subtly trying to throw Lisa under the bus, and now she's like, literally trying to rally everybody. But it's Lisa, so it'll probably work. She'll get Lisa. Lisa in two seconds.

Tinsley Mortimer (18:07)

But, I mean, look, Heather, from my standpoint, I don't have a great track record with Angie. So at this point, she said she didn't do it. I have to give her the benefit of the doubt until I have something coming to me that tells me otherwise.

Brandi Glanville (18:23)

So she's like, listen, I believe Lisa. Why is Angie's mouth. Why is whatever comes out of Angie's mouth gospel? You know, like, what about the commentary on your Barbie CER kicks? Was that true, too? We see a flashback of that.

Tinsley Mortimer (18:38)

It's like, was she telling the truth?

Brandi Glanville (18:40)

Yeah. And Heather's like, well, I don't want to be in a friendship with Lisa if I have to keep her at arms length or watch my back or wonder if she's only, like, not digging up dirt on me because she's not mad at me right now. Who did she dig up? I'm just, like, so confused.

Tinsley Mortimer (18:58)

No one should be digging up dirt on their friends. And I definitely won't be doing it with my broken toe anyway. Anyone who's doing that is not a friend.

Brandi Glanville (19:05)

Suitman isn't dirt that Lisa dug up. That was stuff that was talked about on a podcast, and that was. People were talking about online. I feel like a lot of times they get on this show and they go look at all the gossip that's going around on TikTok and Reddit and everything else, and then they bring it up to each other, and then they accuse each other of spreading it when it's been out on the Internet the whole time, you know?

Tinsley Mortimer (19:27)

Yeah. Yeah. So Heather's like, I believe that Lisa's done that, though, and I believe that she did that to you. And it's going to keep happening. If we keep looking at. If we keep looking the other way, and we're going to have resentments, and I don't want to be in a friendship like that. I really don't. This is a sisterhood. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Meredith would even think that this is something that we can just overlook. Like, she may have. She may have, she may not have. But, you know, girls will be girls. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore. I'm just sort of throwing cliches. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Am I right? Can't cry over spilled milk. Can't have your cake and eat it, too. It's a sisterhood of cake.

Brandi Glanville (20:05)

Heather, Heather, Heather. She's trying so hard, but forgets that everybody was coming after Meredith for setting everything up for the past couple of years. Just like they're like she's accusing Lisa of doing now. This was your storyline against heaven, against Meredith for years. It has been for years. And now you're trying to get Meredith to say that it's always been Lisa. I mean, if it's always been Lisa, it's also always been married. So you're trying to, it's like you're trying to get someone on your side for something that has been in trouble for the same thing for years now. So that's just crazy, this logic. So she's like, well, I just want us to be able to acknowledge when we're fucked up, move on. Okay, then acknowledge that you went and started all this with Lisa and the other women right at the start.

Tinsley Mortimer (20:49)

That's what I say.

Brandi Glanville (20:50)

And she's like, the rest of us are able to say we're sorry, but I would love for Lisa to say she's sorry for a few things too.

Tinsley Mortimer (20:58)

Well, good luck with that.

Brandi Glanville (20:59)

Yeah, good luck with that. She's gonna do that. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

Tinsley Mortimer (21:09)

As the weather cools, I'm swapping in the pieces that actually get the job done. Warm, durable, and built to last. And Quince delivers every time with wardrobe staples that'll carry you through the season.

Brandi Glanville (21:21)

Quince has the fall staples you'll actually want to wear on repeat. Like 100% Mongolian cashmere from just 60 bucks. Classic fit, denim and real leather and wool outerwear that looks sharp and holds up.

Tinsley Mortimer (21:33)

A lot of people have been asking me about my Quince Mongolian cashmere and I have to say it's soft and it's delicious. And to complete the look, I actually went and I got a watch band, a titanium watch band. So that way my little watch looks a lot more chic than when I wear the exercise band that came came with it. So really it's like a one stop shop for me for looking chic for fall.

Brandi Glanville (21:54)

Oh, so fancy. Yes. I got a cashmere hoodie from there and I look pretty amazing in it. Layer up this fall with pieces that feel good as they look. Go to quince.com crappens for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N c e.com crappens free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com Krappins.

Tinsley Mortimer (22:21)

Now we're at Whitney's house and I don't know what's going on with Whitney in the scene. But her hair looks crazy because it's, like, red. But then she's got, like, a brown patch right in the front, which I know. Roots, whatever. Her makeup is off. Like, she. I think she was alerted 10 minutes before the scene that they'd be shooting at her house. Like, oh, my God. Have to get ready. She looks bonkers.

Brandi Glanville (22:42)

So. All right. One of the important things about this trip is a preference sheet, and we're leaving, and you have to do yours, Mary, you're going to regret it if you don't. So they have to fill out their preference sheets, and we see Heather filling out hers in a flashback with Meredith. And Heather's like, please tell us what your ideal breakfast looks like on this order.

Tinsley Mortimer (23:05)

Okay.

Brandi Glanville (23:06)

Wake up. Huevos rancheros, overcooked bacon, eggs Benedict, donuts, and sisterhood.

Tinsley Mortimer (23:14)

I'm not really into breakfast. I. That's more of a time when I just feed up some pureed vegetables to Brooksie, but I don't really eat anything.

Brandi Glanville (23:22)

Yeah, let's just move on to lunch. Move on to lunch. Move on to lunch.

Tinsley Mortimer (23:27)

I want dark Tenagall on the boat, please. Dark Tenigal. Thank y'. All.

Brandi Glanville (23:32)

I'm gonna say, must have glitter spray. This is gonna be an epic trip.

Tinsley Mortimer (23:37)

Oh, I'm sure that. I'm sure Daisy's gonna love that. All your glitter spray everywhere on this luxury. Oh, they're spraying their glitter again. What am I supposed to do? Just wipe up all this shininess? Just sink the boat already and send me off on a dinghy?

Brandi Glanville (23:52)

So Whitney's like, I don't know why the bougiest person doesn't want to do the bougiest thing on the bougiest boat. Did I say bougiest already? So they're trying to get Mary to do it. And so we see that Mary has very strong preferences. And it's 2003 Dom Perignon. We see the flashback to the hotel where she gets on the phone with room service, and it's like, do you have 2003 Dom Perignon? And they say, no. And she's like.

Tinsley Mortimer (24:21)

So she keeps telling Angie, okay, just put down 2003 Dom Perignon. Okay. And parfait for breakfast. Yogurt parfait. 2003 Dom Perignon. Okay, I got that part. And 2003 Dom Perignon.

Brandi Glanville (24:32)

Blueberries, Egyptian cotton sheets. 2003 Don Perignon. Like, okay, we got that one.

Tinsley Mortimer (24:40)

Mary is like, I've been on a yacht before. I love it. It's something about it. There's Something about a boat. For me, it's like. Feels like it's at night and it's just rocking to sleep. Maybe because I was never rocked to sleep. I just get it from the boat. It's like, oh, that turned sad very quickly. So Angie, they're just going through more of this stuff, and then they're just like, coffee or tea. Speaking of tea, have you guys seen all the tea on Bronwyn floating around on the Internet, which is a word that ends with tea.

Brandi Glanville (25:07)

Have you seen Mary? Like, just today, the first thing I saw was Bronwyn. Allegations of identity theft. Like, it's crazy, right?

Tinsley Mortimer (25:19)

When I read the headlines, I was. Hey, wait, what is. What is Trixie say? Oh, yeah, Gagged. I try to. Oh, wait, wait. Message to future employers for Justin. That's not a real gag. Oh, but sometimes we do do the real gag. What am I trying to say again? I'm lost.

Brandi Glanville (25:39)

I was lost, but then I found gagging again. I'm back, baby.

Tinsley Mortimer (25:45)

That's why I Magag, Make America. Gagging again.

Brandi Glanville (25:51)

Oh, we're gagging. So I try to choose friends who are not part of the Utah crime circle, but obviously my picker's wrong. So has anyone talked to Bronwyn? Has anyone talked to her? Let's go to Bronwyn at Todd at the Edison Club social house. So she comes in in bikini bottoms. You know, which. Which everyone. Which everyone in trouble. Everyone who's, like, suffering in the press right now. The first thing we do, like, you know what? I'm putting on my underwear and I'm going to dinner.

Tinsley Mortimer (26:25)

Okay, listen, you gotta sometimes make an ode to SpongeBob Bikini Bottom. Well, I got you a drink that you, like. Loaded myself up on Diet Coke, so we're good to go. And I just. In the spirit of transparency, your beverage did have a cherry on it, and I did eat it.

Brandi Glanville (26:40)

I got you a Shirley Temple. Sorry about the cherry, loser.

Tinsley Mortimer (26:45)

Now they just call it a temple because I. The Shirley part.

Brandi Glanville (26:49)

Okay, so what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? I know you saw my messages. These ridiculous headlines that have nothing to do with anything, but, you know, talking about all the things that have actually happened to me. So what are we gonna do about it? So she explains to us there's two separate things happening here. There are mistakes I made in college. We're talking 20 years ago, okay? And I mean, what. I had an eviction notice after I left byu. I mean, okay, I paid it later, okay? And then they're saying that allegedly I committed crimes Current day in the last year or so, identity theft, grant theft, fraud. I mean, all these things listed under the penal code. Okay, there's just so many things under the same penal code. What actually happened was almost 10 years ago. Nothing recent, but it's a case that's dismissed and then it was sealed, so I just can't talk about it because it was sealed.

Tinsley Mortimer (27:36)

Okay, you most. Ten years ago means nine years max, right? Like, that's about nine years ago. And nine years ago was about2016, 2017. I don't know, that still seems pretty close. That's like, not like, oh, way back in crazy college times.

Brandi Glanville (27:54)

But then what is the year above? So if she committed crimes during the current day in the past year or so, identity theft, grand theft, fraud, all these things, then why did it happen almost 10 years ago?

Tinsley Mortimer (28:06)

She's saying it didn't happen recently. She said. She said the thing they're. They're talking about is if it hap. As if it happened just right now. It happened like 10 years ago, but it got dismissed. And then it was also sealed, so I'm not even allowed to even talk about it because it's sealed.

Brandi Glanville (28:21)

Oh, okay, so she's saying this. They're acting like this is recent, but this was 10 years ago. Okay? So she's like, yeah, that was dismissed and sealed, and so I can't legally talk about it. Well, that's not what being sealed means. Of course you can talk about it. They can't talk about it. The court can't. Well, like, the court is sealed. Your lips aren't sealed.

Tinsley Mortimer (28:40)

I don't know what the rule is about the ceiling, you know, like, I don't know what.

Brandi Glanville (28:43)

What.

Tinsley Mortimer (28:43)

What that is, but Todd's like, well, you know, this lying bullshit online in the press, you know, it affects us all.

Brandi Glanville (28:48)

Well, you get a case sealed if it's embarrassing to you. So if there's a case that, you know, whatever happened and you asked for the Kate to be the case to be sealed, that's because it could be, you know, reputation harming. I think you can get that, like your first or second. I mean, I just watch Law and Order. That's all I know it from, you know, law shows, but from what I understand, the case being sealed doesn't mean you can't talk about it. If you were the one that was being, you know, it was sealed in her favor. You know what does that make any sense? Like, you asked for the case to be sealed so your reputation isn't damaged, so you're the one you can talk about the case. I just think that the court isn't allowed to release documents on your case.

Tinsley Mortimer (29:26)

Oh, well, sorry.

Brandi Glanville (29:28)

Go ahead.

Tinsley Mortimer (29:29)

No, it's fine. So Todd is now saying how all this lying is affecting him personally and professionally. Just the other day they started telling me that palm pilots are dead. And that's only because of these rumors. God, my entire business is sinking.

Brandi Glanville (29:43)

And she's like, I know, I know it's going to cause a problem for you. I know. I'm sorry about that. Because I know it's going to be a concern. I know that my name next to any of these words reflects poorly on you. And, you know, you need to be seen as someone who is, you know, trustworthy and beyond reproach and going to show Dennis the Menace who's boss. You know, I get that. And I know Todd. I know, I know. Okay, So I get it. And I just separate from that. But I saw your text and I should think about not going on the stream trip, so I want to talk about that.

Tinsley Mortimer (30:11)

So just. Just in case anyone didn't see the parallels, Ra's whole issue with her mom is that when she had Gwen and there's all this crazy that, like Bronwyn's concerns. Bronwyn's choices were last on anyone's priorities. She had to be more concerned about her dad and his position in the church and his reputation because of her actions. And that was a higher priority than how she was doing. And now here we are again, where she is the brunt of tabloid rumors that are embarrassing or maybe jilting or whatever. And she has to be concerned about Todd's position in his professional career that probably already peaked 20 years ago. Just want to say that she's found herself back in the same position.

Brandi Glanville (30:56)

Yeah, it is an interesting parallel, but yeah, I would be interested to see what this stuff is, you know, Meaning.

Tinsley Mortimer (31:03)

That, like, he should be saying, not like, you understand that this is going to hurt things for me professionally. He should be saying, what do you need from me? I'm sorry that you are see that you are, like, on the receiving end of all these. These rumors that are absolutely not true. Don't worry about me. I'll get through this, people. My reputation is good enough that, like, it's not going to be an issue for me professionally. Right. Like the fact that he's trying. He's. He's piling on and making her feel shitty.

Brandi Glanville (31:32)

Well, I think it's also. And I hate being in the position where I'm kind of Standing up for Todd here. But I don't know what Bronwyn did, so I don't know how bad this is that he got this covered up and sealed and all of this other shit. So I don't know. But I think that what's exacerbating it probably for Todd, if you put yourself in Todd's shoes, is that she's like, okay, so all these rumors about are about me. So I'm gonna go film a TV show on a boat with these women who are gonna do nothing but make this 20 times worse than, you know, because I'm obsessed with being on this TV show. So I think he's just like, oh, my God. I think he's just like, can we just get off this fucking TV show at this point? What more do you need? Like, now they're really trying to ruin our lives. Like, what more do you need? You know, I mean, I get you're supposed to support your spouse, but, like, if it seems like it's ruining your whole life, how much support are you supposed to give before it's like, well, when do you support me? Like, how much of this is going to ruin my life that I have to just put up with so you can be on your TV show? It's not like it's just some fun TV show that happens to be a minor inconvenience. This is like life ruining stuff. You know, I think any spouse would be a little bit like, what the, bro?

Tinsley Mortimer (32:39)

Yeah, But I think then that conversation happens before you start up your next. Your, your next season, right? Like, it's like, this is ruining our life. This is having an impact on me professionally. I know you like it, but I don't think I can do this or whatever, but I just feel like I just don't like that, that his first response is about, like, his profession. That like, he's having. This is gonna be harder for him. This guy who is. Who, by the way, the, the guys he probably deals with in corporate America do things probably 10 times worse than anything that Brahman's ever done. But.

Brandi Glanville (33:12)

Well, I don't think he said anything mean to her. I, I think mine was. He said, you know, you know, this lying bullshit online in the press affects all of us personally, professionally. That's all he said. I don't think he was like, damn it, Bronwyn, what have you done now? He was just like, this in the press is. It's like a killer. What should we. What are we going to do about it?

Tinsley Mortimer (33:31)

But like, she has to come in here and grovel and be like, well, I know this really affects you. And like, oh my God.

Brandi Glanville (33:36)

I know, you know, you can't marry an old grumpy man and then be like, why is my old man grumpy? Like, I mean, I don't know what to okay the old man.

Tinsley Mortimer (33:47)

I feel like this conversation can be had, but I think the priority right now is making sure that your wife is okay and like, like everything's in good standing and that she knows that you have her back. And then you can say, but by the way, maybe we should, we should reconsider this show because it's, it's now starting to affect things larger than just like squabbles, you know, that you have Palm Springs. I just felt like he was not there for her in this moment and I felt like she had to spend more time tending to him. I know what you're saying, though, like, we don't know like already how much he's had to deal with in terms of these, in terms of these legal affairs. And they've already been maybe a burden on them in the past, and it's sort of like bringing something back ups, you know, et cetera. But I just didn't love that she had to come in and just take care of him when she was the one, like, having her embarrassing past.

Brandi Glanville (34:38)

I don't know, it seems like they, they've got a good partnership in a way, to me. You know, I think we look at this and everybody's like that grumpy old asshol. You shouldn't be with him. And I'm, I'm partly like that too. I mean, I was saying in the scene before, like, I think a marriage should be happy. I mean, in my head it should, should seem more happy than this has ever seemed. But at the same time, the vibes they have, it's like they're at the social club, they're having drinks, and her first thing is to come in and just be like, okay, what are we going to do? You know what I mean? They seem to have a partnership where it's like, okay, how are we dealing with this? Where are we going? I didn't really see her coming in here being like, oh my God, Todd, I'm so sorry. I see her being like, okay, how are we going to deal with this? You know, and him being like, okay, let's. I mean, I see it as them kind of. He's a gruff asshole. I'm not going to say he's not. Obviously. I've said it a million Times, but it seems like they've got some kind of partnership that works for them, is all I'm saying.

Tinsley Mortimer (35:29)

They do. I don't deny that. But I. But also, they're smart people and they know about reality tv. They know everything comes out. There's no hiding. Every single thing is going to come out. Maybe they had convinced themselves that this part wouldn't come out. And if anything, we've learned from Wendy and Eddie that smart people do stupid, stupid things. But, like, I don't know, I just have a. I just have a hard time believing that they, like. I just think it's hard to believe that they're. I don't know. I just don't like that she's. She's not the priority in this moment right now for him that, like, she's obviously texted him frantically to be like, oh, my God, this shit is going public. I wanna, like, I need to talk with you. Etc. And I don't know, I just felt like I just.

Brandi Glanville (36:13)

Well, he was texting back. He was saying, yeah, I don't think now's the right time to go on a trip, the cast trip with these people. This is like some heavy. You know. And she's like, no, I'm going on the trip. So I'm. I mean, I don't know, but. And here's another reason I have a feeling completely another reason I have a problem completely falling for Bronwyn because she's immediate, look what she immediately does. And when you say these people are smart, look what she immediately does. She's like, oh, well, you know, based on our past, there's a heavy possibility that Lisa started these rumors. You know, there's a possibility if she didn't start them, she's perpetuating them. Do you know that? And I want to be done fighting with Lisa and that she could have been sitting there pretending to be my friend and pretending that she wanted to make up, and then this is what she's doing behind my back. That's pretty diabolical. This stuff was coming out all over the Internet, I think, because people started researching Bronwyn when it seemed like she was lying all the time last year. You know what I mean? So to me, it's like, here we go. You're gonna scapegoat Lisa Barlow again for this. Which she will use it. Lisa Barlow will use this. I see her. I'm not saying she's above using it. I just see Bronwyn. Bronwyn seems kind of diabolical to me, too. So I'm Just not. I'm just not in the whole, like, Bronwyn's a total victim. Wow, wow, wow, Bronwyn thing. I don't think Bronwyn's a super villain either. I'm actually enjoying Bronwyn a lot more this season than I did last season. But I'm just not ready to jump in the boat of, like, oh, poor Bronwyn. She needs more from Todd. I think she seems to get quite a bit from Todd. And I don't even mean financially because obviously that's something. But I think they have some kind of weird partnership friendship thing that I don't really understand. But it's not coming across to me as him being, like, emotionally abusive to her at this point. It's coming across to me as him being like, all right, well, how can we deal with this? First thing is probably not to go on TV and make this even worse on a group trip where you're stuck on a boat with these people.

Tinsley Mortimer (38:08)

You know, I don't think he's being emotionally abusive. I just think that, you know, he's just sort of, I think, condescending to her. And whether or not she deserves to be condescended to, that's the gray area. I mean, you'd like to think no one deserves to be condescended to.

Brandi Glanville (38:22)

No one deserves to be condended to. I just think they have, like, vibe. Yeah.

Tinsley Mortimer (38:26)

But I think, I do think, though, that it is a leap that Bronwyn immediately starts blaming Lisa for this. Like, that's a little wild. Is it? That she is Lisa, the only person she told about these. These things that happened in her past, because that would make a little bit more sense. But it is. It is kind of hilarious that she. That she immediately starts pointing the finger at Lisa Barlow. Like, that's. It's actually a pretty big jump.

Brandi Glanville (38:48)

And I think a lot of the energy he's giving her is energy that we've been getting from him the whole time, which is parent daughter energy.

Tinsley Mortimer (38:55)

Right?

Brandi Glanville (38:56)

Because he's like, well, because he says, I wouldn't go on that trip. And she goes, well, what are you worried about? Which is such a ding dong question. Like, really? Fraud, grand theft fraud? I mean, what are you talking about? What are you worried about? And he's like, well, a tiger can't change his stripes, okay? And she's not gonna change. And what I said to you a year ago, I don't know why you get in the gutter with her. Because that's what it is. You just get in the gutter and muck around with slime. You get down with dogs and wonder why you're covered in fleas. You eat a lollipop and then wonder why your teeth got cavities. If you decide to go, I get it. You're a big girl. You're a grown woman in the dinosaur costume and underwear in public. But I understand. Just don't come home complaining that you and Lisa got into a fight. Because I assume it's gonna happen. You're setting yourself up for it, and it's on you.

Tinsley Mortimer (39:42)

It's.

Brandi Glanville (39:43)

That's literally on you.

Tinsley Mortimer (39:45)

Well, he's right about that.

Brandi Glanville (39:46)

I say right and I.

Tinsley Mortimer (39:48)

And I think that's fair. And like, I. I think he's fine. It's like, go. You're gonna do this. There will be a fight. I don't really want to hear it. I'm telling you right now, this is not a smart idea. But she's got to go to work. Gotta get that paycheck.

Brandi Glanville (40:01)

Yeah.

Tinsley Mortimer (40:02)

Off. So off to the Caribbean she goes. Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (40:06)

So let's see. Looks like a disaster. We see the preview and Lisa is just sobbing down stairways the whole time.

Tinsley Mortimer (40:16)

A show. Yay.

Brandi Glanville (40:18)

Yay.

Tinsley Mortimer (40:19)

Thanks, everyone for being here. Fun times.

Brandi Glanville (40:22)

Yeah. Good times, everybody. Thanks for joining us. We will be back tomorrow with a little wife swap action. Thanks for being here. See you next time. Bye.

Tinsley Mortimer (40:33)

Watch what crap. INS would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King. It's always a place party on Allison Block.

Brandi Glanville (40:40)

Our way is the Amber way.

Tinsley Mortimer (40:42)

It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clap.

Brandi Glanville (40:50)

Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, She's a Daniella Etchells. We never miss her call. It's diane Call Aaron McNicholas.

Tinsley Mortimer (40:59)

She don't miss no Trickolas Hava Nagila Weber you'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. I go, you go. We all go for Hugo Jamie. She has no less namey.

Brandi Glanville (41:10)

She's our kind of mess. It's Jennifer Messer Sipped some scotch with Jessica Trotch.

Tinsley Mortimer (41:15)

She's our favorite streamer.

Brandi Glanville (41:16)

Caroline Peacock, Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacy B. Que sera sera. Whatever will be will Lauren Sills be. She gets an A from us. It's Lindsey D. Let's give a kissarino to Lisalino. Fresh as a daisy. It's Maisie McHenry. We love her on the rocks. It's Melissa Cox. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the.

Tinsley Mortimer (41:40)

Burg this is living with Michelle Vivian.

Brandi Glanville (41:43)

I love ya. Olivia Williamson.

Tinsley Mortimer (41:45)

She sure is swell.

Brandi Glanville (41:47)

It's Raquel yes, we can.

Tinsley Mortimer (41:49)

It's Savannah Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman let's share with Sharon Eldridge Darn skippy, it's Tippy.

Brandi Glanville (41:56)

And our super premium sponsors She's VVIP It's Amanda V. You can't lose when you're with Amy Baldwin somebody get us.

Tinsley Mortimer (42:04)

10Cc'S of Betsy, Maryland.

Brandi Glanville (42:06)

We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva.

Tinsley Mortimer (42:09)

Let'S get real with Caitlin o' Neal.

Brandi Glanville (42:11)

Put us on a stretcher It's Charlotte Fletcher don't get salty With Christine Pepper can't have a meal without the Emily.

Tinsley Mortimer (42:18)

Sides who, what, why, where?

Brandi Glanville (42:20)

And Gwen Pentland let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs it's our queen It's Queen Laifa Nobody holds a candle.

Tinsley Mortimer (42:29)

To Jamie Kendall Hail the cork master the master of the cork Jennifer Corcoran we got our wish It's Jen Plish she's not harsh She's Jill Hirsch My Favorite Murdo Karen McMurdo She's a total.

Brandi Glanville (42:41)

Knockout It's Katie Manock we love him.

Tinsley Mortimer (42:43)

Madly It's Kyle Pod Shadley in the study with a candlestick It's Leslie Peacock G It's Lisa H We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron she's a wiz It's Liz Sarthi always killing it.

Brandi Glanville (42:56)

It's Lola Al Kalani the incredible edible Matthews sisters She eases our woes it's Melissa St. Rose there's a chance of meatballs It's Rebecca Cloud Maximum love for.

Tinsley Mortimer (43:07)

Sandy Maximoska she's the queen bee It's.

Brandi Glanville (43:10)

Sarah Lemke we cannot tell a lie It's Sarah tell of son Shannon out.

Tinsley Mortimer (43:15)

Of a cannon Anthony, please don't stop it's solely and pop let's take off with Tamla Plain we're obsessed doll with.

Brandi Glanville (43:22)

Tessa V she ain't no shrinking violet couture we love you guys. If you like watch what crappens. You can listen ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey@wondry.com. i'm done with subscriptions, streaming, fitness, razors, vitamins. I've got subscriptions for everything in my life. They lock you in and half the time I can't figure out how to unsubscribe. That's why I'm so excited about the new Blue Apron. Now you can get delicious meals delivered with no subscription needed, including new pre made options. Keep the flavor, ditch the subscription. Get 20% off your first two orders with code APRON20. Terms and conditions apply. Visit blueapron.com terms for more.