#3051 RHOC S19E16 Part Two: Watch Your Tulip

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens #3051

"RHOC S19E16 Part Two: Watch Your Tulip"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: October 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively installment, Ben and Ronnie deliver Part Two of their recap of Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19, Episode 16 ("Watch Your Tulip"). The hosts gleefully break down the housewives’ escapades in Amsterdam, including their hilarious “crockpot” hot tub rides, iconic one-liners, and the ongoing Gretchen-Tamara feud. The episode crescendos with an exploration of Gretchen's alleged social media controversy, stirring up questions of authenticity, friendship, and hypocrisy among the cast. Ben and Ronnie keep the recap quick-witted and irreverent, peppering the analysis with memorable impressions, sharp observations, and snark.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Amsterdam Antics: Housewife Hot Tub Chaos

• [00:42-05:11]
  • The women prepare for their floating hot tub tour, featuring a ripe blend of apprehension ("Is the water full of carb vomit?" – Shannon) and playful one-upmanship over who commands the boats.
  • Emily distributes not-so-subtle “disgusting” baseball caps (e.g., "Wrong Hole", "Moister than an Oyster"), cueing a classic debate about the word "moist" that sends the ladies into fits.

    Shannon: "Everyone knows I hate that word moist!" [02:39]

  • Hot tub racing turns slapstick as Shannon steers her boat inches from calamity, channeling physical comedy and ultimately crashing—an incident they joke has become her seasonal signature.

    Tom: "For someone so scared about getting her toe in dirty water, she’s like 1 millimeter from, like, going overboard." [03:54]

2. The Gretchen-Tamara Feud Redux

• [05:11-19:02]
  • Tension remains between Gretchen and Tamara, with mediation attempts yielding only temporary truces. Emily, caught in the middle, points out patterns of “Code Red” behavior and hypocrisy.
  • Notable is Gretchen’s apology for past charity-event drama, met with skepticism due to her perceived "flip-flopping" and honesty card-playing.

    Ronnie: "They always play the honest card. I mean, Gina just did it like five seconds ago." [12:00]

  • Emotional rawness surfaces as Gretchen tearfully expresses how past hurt and mutual betrayals have left her struggling to move forward.

    Gretchen: "I just don’t want to be the person you guys are seeing right now." [17:39]

3. Real Life Headlines & Financial Fumbles

• [13:38-16:52]
  • Tamara brings up a real-life headline about Jen’s alleged six-figure judgment case, grilling her on financial issues.

    Tamara: "Real Housewives of Orange County’s Jennifer Pedronte ordered to pay six figure judgment after allegedly failing to pay rent." [14:58]

  • Jen handles the moment with blunt honesty and sarcasm, diffusing attempts at shaming her by owning up.

    Jen: "No, I do owe it, Tamara. I do." [15:29]

  • This scene sets the tone for a running theme: the cast’s barely-concealed schadenfreude and self-awareness about fame, jobs, and public perception.

4. Gretchen’s Alleged Social Media Scandal

• [35:25-41:48]
  • The episode takes a heavier turn when Gina and Emily discuss alarming anti-LGBTQ+ and anti-trans posts that Gretchen allegedly liked on social media.

    Tom: "It’s the post where Gretchen famously liked anti trans and homophobic...there were homophobic posts too, right?" [36:21]

  • Both hosts and housewives express horror, confusion, and the ethical dilemma of confronting Gretchen on camera after weeks of hesitation.

    Ronnie: "They are such hypocrites. But I'm glad that someone is going to bring it up." [39:13]

  • Ben and Ronnie express profound disappointment, questioning Gretchen’s sincerity, especially as she tries to “rehabilitate” her image with performative allyship.

    Ronnie: "...likening homosexuality to pedophilia...This is not stuff you just wake up...[and say] ‘I learned and I'm different now.’" [41:25]

  • An upcoming confrontation is teased for the next episode, promising fireworks.

5. Classic Comedy & Housewives-isms

• Throughout
  • The recap is threaded with the hosts’ comedic takes: from Shannon’s exaggerated complaints about her injured toe ([20:19]), to riffs about “Boom Boom Sausage” in the Amsterdam food hall ([25:31]), to lampooning the cast’s self-awareness about their jobs (or lack thereof) ([16:38]).
  • The episode closes with the “Super Premium Sponsor” shoutouts—a beloved, tongue-in-cheek roll call that devotees expect and cherish.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the floating hot tubs:

  "It's a crockpot. Just get in there. It's going to slowly cook us until we're dead. We're having housewives for dinner." – Emily [01:17]

• On drama tactics:

  "I just want everybody to know I can be crass and useless in multiple countries." – Emily [01:36]
  "She’s like, ‘Well, maybe I need to take a look at it because… I don’t want to keep doing it.’" – Jen, as Gretchen makes a breakthrough [12:20]

• On the ongoing feud:

  "They’re just grasping for straws. They’ve got nothing, basically, is what’s happening." – Ronnie [34:54]

• On the social media scandal:

  "You really picked up on that. See, you know, you’re really good at that, Ronnie." – Tom, on the hosts' ability to decode housewife strategy [28:50]
  "I'm all for if someone is doing something like homophobic, hateful and then they like, they stop and they listen and they learn... But it has to be real and has to be sincere." – Tom [40:47]

• Comic relief:

  "Well, that was a bit crass. Adeline, I am your mother, after all. I mean, I did bring you into this world." – Shannon, fake-calling her daughter about her toe [20:43]
  "She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniella Etchells!" – Sponsor Roll Call [43:05]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:42-05:11] – Amsterdam floating hot tub shenanigans & hat comedy
• [05:11-19:02] – Gretchen & Tamara feud; apologies & emotional breakdowns
• [13:38-16:52] – Jen’s rent embarrassment and job shade
• [35:25-41:48] – Gretchen’s alleged anti-LGBTQ+ social posts and discussion of confronting her
• [25:03-27:03] – Food hall “Boom Boom Sausage” and group comic bits

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The Hosts’ Tone & Style

Ben and Ronnie maintain their signature blend of affection and irreverence—mocking the housewives’ dramatics while celebrating their quirks. The language is playful, sharp, and peppered with impressions and silly asides. Nothing is off limits, whether it’s Housewives’ hypocrisy, Bravo editing, or their own status as professional recappers.

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Final Thoughts

This episode exemplifies Watch What Crappens at its best: a raucous, insightful, and lovingly snark-filled take on the Real Housewives universe. The balance of slapstick humor, pop culture analysis, and genuine examination of heavy issues (like Gretchen’s alleged social posts) keeps the show both hilarious and relevant.
Listeners are left eagerly awaiting the next confrontation, and, as always, the hosts close things out with their signature sponsor roll call—ending on a high (and hilariously arbitrary) note.

Transcript

[Tom]

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[Jen]

That happens.

[Shannon]

Over little features?

[Tom]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

[Ronnie]

So now they go back to the hotel to change in bathing suits and.

[Jen]

Jen's like, oh, I just can't wait to put on a bathing suit. Shannon's like, oh, yeah, a bathing suit and a hot tub sounds darling.

[Shannon]

Hello, sir. Who is our. Our captain who won't be on our boat with us? That's real safe. So is the water. Is the water. Is it. Is this safe water or is it. Does it come from the river? Is it full of muck? Is it full of people throwing up because they've had too much space cake? A lot of carbs. A lot of carbs in this river from carb vomit.

[Jen]

I've got a little blister on my toe, sir.

[Emily]

It's a crock pot. Just get in there. It's going to slowly cook us until we're dead. We're having housewives for dinner.

[Heather]

So, Emily, I just want to make an announcement to what you're about to say. Ronnie, I got very funny baseball caps, Rose, all to wear. I'm so hilarious.

[Emily]

I just want everybody to know I can be crass and useless in multiple countries. Here are your disgusting hats.

[Ronnie]

So she passes around these baseball caps.

[Jen]

And one's like, I love.

[Ronnie]

They're not even subtle caps.

[Jen]

Wrong hole.

[Gina]

And I like it.

[Ronnie]

And Shannon says, moister than an oyster. And Emily see or Heather sees these.

[Jen]

And she's like, well, I know why they think that I'm not funny, because this is not funny. So if this is the kind of sense of humor you're looking for, you will not find that at the ground.

[Shannon]

Lingza.

[Tamara]

Thank you. No, I was being serious, Alfredo.

[Tom]

This is not funny.

[Jen]

I am not moister than an oyster.

[Emily]

We all clearly. She's not. She's wrapped in Spanx.

[Ronnie]

Wouldn't span make you more moist? I mean, just in general, I don't know about.

[Tom]

I think I've. But I think if I were in Spanx, I'd have a lot of more moistness on.

[Shannon]

I'd have a. I'd have a higher.

[Tom]

Degree of moistitude on my body.

[Shannon]

Oh, yeah, please stop saying that because everyone knows I hate that word moist.

[Slade]

No one likes the word moist.

[Shannon]

And I'll tell you who hates it the most. Barbara. That's her name, right? Barbara.

[Ronnie]

So one hot tub. Floating hot tub thing is gonna be Emily, Gretchen, and Tamara. Okay? And of course, Emily's the one who divides up the boats and makes the most dramatic boat she can.

[Jen]

And Gretchen's like, oh, this is a death trap.

[Ronnie]

And then Emily is saying, this is my last try.

[Emily]

Once this crockpot comes to land, I'm done.

[Ronnie]

So now Shannon is holding her foot.

[Jen]

Out like, I don't want my blister touching the water. Am I falling off the boat?

[Emily]

Where's my blister?

[Slade]

I don't want to wait. I don't want to wait for this blister to get infected. I'm leaving my ankle outside the crock pot just to be safe.

[Shannon]

The space cake, everyone. I apologize.

[Ronnie]

So Shannon is designated the one who is going to drive the boat because, you know, she's from a boat family.

[Jen]

And everybody fucking knows it.

[Ronnie]

And Tamara is driving.

[Gina]

Right.

[Jen]

Her boat.

[Ronnie]

And so it becomes like a race on a very slow, you know, two slow moving hot tub things in the water.

[Tom]

Yeah. And Shannon's being all cartoonish about the way she, like, controls the rudder. I don't think it needs that much body language, but she's, like, flopping herself all around. She's also, like, dangling off the side of it. For someone who is so scared about getting her toe in. In dirty water, I mean, she is like 1 millimeter from, like, going overboard. I was actually quite concerned about her, but she's all on the side there.

[Slade]

She's like, oh, look at me.

[Shannon]

I'm wacky.

[Tom]

But then somehow she still winds up crashing her hot tub into a boat. And if I were that boat owner, I would not be happy at all. Maybe I'm just, like, used to blow deck where, like, any small thing hits the hole. You're like, that's $1 million worth of damage. But I was like, this is. Don't do that. Don't crash your hot tub into someone's nice boat.

[Gina]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

This isn't just the corner of a house to clip. Okay. This is a bigger deal, ma'. Am.

[Tom]

A house boot.

[Ronnie]

I know. I love that. Every. Every season now, Shannon's just going to clip something.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Driving something. Drunkenly. This is going to be her new thing.

[Shannon]

So Shannon's like, oh, I'm a boater. Okay, I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry for clipping your boat, but. Oh. Oh, did he just smile at me? Is that a. Is that my new boyfriend? No. Oh, he is just actually giving me the finger.

[Slade]

Okay.

[Shannon]

All right, good. Good day to you, sir.

[Jen]

Gina's like, oh, wow. Now we're driving. Now we're cooking with gas. That's a show with the groundlings. You for the shout out. Well, I understand the concept of this person didn't do anything to me, you know, whatever her name is, Denise. But I just thought things were different. I thought things were different with her because in her conversations with me, she doesn't really seem to be friends with Alexis.

[Ronnie]

And then we see a clip of Shannon asking her about Alexis and Jen.

[Jen]

Being like, oh, I don't even see Alexis, Shannon. And I don't think I'm going to go to her wedding, Shannon, because I know that. I know what that would do to us. And I'm telling you the truth on that. Shannon. Telling you the truth.

[Tom]

So Jed is being a little slippery on this front, but at the same time, she's still not planning to go to the wedding regardless. And as we found out, she actually had her invitation revoked, so it's not.

[Ronnie]

Even an issue because she wasn't there after Alexis had surgery.

[Tom]

She didn't.

[Ronnie]

Probably God knows what surgery it was, but Alexis is like, yeah, I had.

[Jen]

Surgery and Jen wasn't there. So unfortunately, she was disinvited to the wedding of the century. So I hope she can learn her lesson and one day we can come back and be real friends again.

[Shannon]

Someday. Someday.

[Tom]

So Jen's like, well, whenever I met.

[Shannon]

Alexis last year, you and I weren't like we are now. And if you say it hurts when I'm with her, you know, I can hear that. Well, I'm not saying don't be friends. I'm saying if you had to choose between her, me, you choose me.

[Gina]

Right?

[Shannon]

I'm just saying lines were crossed. And it doesn't mean that I have to listen to it.

[Gina]

I just.

[Shannon]

I just wonder why you think she's so great. I mean, last time I checked, she didn't throw you a bridal shower. Right. Last time I. I checked. Check. She didn't get you a nice cake.

[Slade]

That said, congrats on your upcoming nuptial, Cynthia.

[Shannon]

But that's okay. I mean, we all have different ways we show up for our friends if we are, in fact friends in the first place.

[Ronnie]

And like you said, Jen being Slippery. I do think that Jen kind of is full of shit a lot of times, because she says right now, does.

[Jen]

Alexis talk to me about Shannon? No. No, of course not. And I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

[Ronnie]

I don't believe you. What else is Alexis going to talk to you about? I don't think Alexis talks to anybody on that show and doesn't bring up Shannon every five seconds. That's just not how life works.

[Tom]

Yeah, I agree. And so then they're driving by the boat and Shannon goes, wait.

[Shannon]

Wait a second. Is. Does that boat say Jansen? Is that.

[Slade]

Wait, is that John Jackson's son? Hi, it's Shannon, and remember me?

[Shannon]

I was.

[Slade]

I was the. The woman that your father jilted and.

[Shannon]

Ruined and ensued, which is hilarious, because I was the one who was left with nothing. But anyway, and I paid for everything. I actually paid for your boat, so.

[Slade]

I get to see.

[Shannon]

Oh, you know what? That is actually a potted plant. It's some tulips.

[Slade]

Okay.

[Shannon]

All right, moving on.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Emily]

Okay, now we're at the other one. So, Gretchen, is there anything you'd like to say to Tamral? Because she's open to listening. So say fight. Do something. I don't want to have to do.

[Ronnie]

Something on this show.

[Emily]

Do you guys want me to pull the chicken sandwich out of my purse? I'll do it.

[Slade]

Talk loud because I got the engine by my ear. Yeah, my little power play. I can't hear you, Gretchen.

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Gina]

Tamara's like, no, I don't want to say nothing.

[Emily]

Well, Gretchen, is there anything you want to say? Oh, okay. Tamara said she'd listen. She told me.

[Gina]

Well, talk that. Yeah, talk that.

[Jen]

Okay, well, I know you probably won't.

[Gina]

Be receptive to this. Why would you say that? You say you start off with negative comment. What am I supposed to say about it, bitch?

[Slade]

However, because I messed up and I feel really bad about it now.

[Gina]

Yeah, but that's how we agreed to, like, stop talking about it. We agreed to no more, remember?

[Slade]

Yeah, I messed it up. I. I messed it up and I feel bad. Slade told me I should feel bad, and I feel bad about it now.

[Jen]

Oh, my God.

[Gina]

She feels okay, So I could hear.

[Shannon]

That across the canal.

[Gina]

All right, then what was your intention with the charity thing? Because you and Slade came at me, and then you heckled me and stuff. The only one here is used to getting heckled is Heather. Okay, but you're not Reba McIntyre, and I'm not Hither Dubrow.

[Slade]

Well, I mean, that's because. However it's because everyone was saying you were going around and telling them something about Slade, and I just was, like, really upset about it.

[Emily]

Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's because people knew that she had had a conversation with Katie, and so people were just asking what happened.

[Ronnie]

You know, of course, Emily bringing it.

[Emily]

To her own thing, it's like, yeah, I mean, I think she's really hurt because you guys had a pact and.

[Katie]

You breached the pact and I messed up.

[Slade]

And, like, I just felt justified at the time. And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying that I messed up.

[Emily]

Yeah, but sometimes you think it's okay for you to do stuff. And, like, just because Tamara does and it's like a never ending cycle.

[Slade]

Okay, well, so am I just supposed to, like, not do anything no matter what she says?

[Emily]

I'm assuring you. I've known Tamara for a long time. In the past three years, she has not said one word about you.

[Tom]

Okay, or you haven't been listening. Let's be honest.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And so Gretchen's like, emily's a flip flopper. I mean, what the hell? Why am I the only one that's being singled out? And she's right, because Emily has been talking her up, like, this whole time, you know, so now it's two hours earlier. And Gretchen's like, well, I said I'm sorry. And then she came in and started screaming and said, you. So I guess I'm a little anxious to try that again.

[Gina]

And.

[Ronnie]

And Emily's like, yeah, Tamara lives in.

[Emily]

Code red time all the time.

[Tom]

And so. And then Gretchen's saying that she decided to get in the hot tub because she just wants to move forward, but she also is like, yeah, but they are the. Those two women are the most aggressive to me.

[Shannon]

So I don't know if it was the best decision.

[Tom]

So Gretchen's telling Emily, like, you know, just. Just because she hasn't said it to you, Emily, doesn't mean she hasn't said it to other people. Hasn't talked about me to other people.

[Emily]

Yeah, it's like, well, you know, I mean, come on, that's not the right attitude.

[Gina]

And T's like, I don't talk about you. You're not even running it.

[Shannon]

Oh, my God. I don't think that boat ride's going good. They might as well just pull the plug out of the bottom and sink the bowl.

[Jen]

Yeah, look at Retch's hands. They're like, going like crazy. And she's like, oh, I can't give you 20 off. I can't give you 20% off. I won't give you 20% off with that attitude.

[Tamara]

By the way, here's the coupon so you can watch the HD network on Mark Cuban's Strange TV platform.

[Ronnie]

Okay. There you go.

[Emily]

Gretchen, you have to recognize your partner how we got into this because you've also perpetuated this stuff. You've also said things, and I've repeated them every single time.

[Gina]

Okay, yeah.

[Slade]

But the way that I see it is that if someone asks me a question, I answer it honestly and Christianly. So maybe I need to look at that a little bit.

[Jen]

I just need to look at being less of a child of Jesus and more of a Satan's child to fit in with the rest of you.

[Ronnie]

I love the Gretchen, like, words. It like, oh, I'm just sorry I'm so honest. Maybe I need to learn to lie.

[Jen]

More to be around you guys.

[Tom]

They always play the honest card. I mean, Gina just did it, like, five seconds ago.

[Shannon]

I was being honest.

[Heather]

So Emily's like, what if she said, hey, Tamara. What if she were more introspective and recognized that she was actually fueling the fire?

[Gina]

Yeah, that would really help if you said that. You know what inspector means, you dumb bitch?

[Jen]

And she's like, well, maybe I need.

[Gina]

To take a look at it because.

[Jen]

I don't want to keep doing it. And maybe I'm doing it unknowingly.

[Slade]

That's the best thing you ever said to me, bitch. Right there. Wow. It's a breakthrough for five seconds. Before I get mad at you later.

[Gina]

Give me this screen. No more. No more. I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick of it. You get rid of it. That she's like, okay, I agree. I hope we both can do it, though, and not just me.

[Tom]

So the producer says, are you hopeful?

[Slade]

It's like, not even a little bit. Had I felt like there was a change, it would have been when she supposedly welcomed Jesus Christ into her heart. But it didn't happen then. So you really think I'm gonna think she's changed now?

[Tom]

I mean, I appreciate her calling out Tamara's, you know, baptism hypocrisy, but, you know, people are changing without. Because also Gretchen's.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, people. Yeah, there. I like that whole thing. Like, well, without religion, how would you.

[Jen]

Know that murder is bad?

[Tom]

It's like, well, if she didn't change when she accepted Jesus into real life, she'll never change the rest of her life.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so.

[Tom]

So now they're parking the jacuzzi they go back to the hotel, and Tamara.

[Ronnie]

Tamara's made up with Heather, so she's immediately got a gen headline ready. I mean, Tamara is like.

[Jen]

She's a pro.

[Ronnie]

You gotta hand it to her.

[Gina]

She's like, okay, that's everything solved, that one. Okay, we need the next chapter. We still got half an episode left. Oh, hey, look, I got my I heart notification because we get headlines, and then I Heart chooses what headline they're gonna put on the podcast since. Yeah, this one's about you. Whoops. Well, did something happen again?

[Shannon]

This is.

[Tom]

Now, keep in mind, everyone, the. This show. The season began with Tamara being furious at Katie because of talk that Tam. Like, you know, Katie was talking to too many podcasters and talking to too many content creators and. And, like, spreading, you know, untruths or whatever. And now here comes Tamara, you know, basically brazenly announcing that she's gonna be talking about one of her cast members on a podcast.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Well, at least I will say for Tamara, at least she's doing it to Jen's face. And it's a headline that's already out there from In Touch magazine. And she's giving her a to, like, at least comment on it, which. So.

[Tom]

Which is admirable. But it's also funny because Tamara. This is Tamara's sly way of being like, look, it's. A producer sent this to me, so now I've got to talk about it, you know, because Tamara can also say, I don't want to talk about my current cast member. Yeah, she could just do that. But she's presenting it under this veneer of being, like, a caring and considerate friend.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So the headline is from In Touch. Real Housewives of Orange County's Jennifer Pedronte ordered to pay six figure judgment after allegedly failing to pay rent. And so she's like, yeah, I mean.

[Jen]

That'S the same judgment as it was last year. We did a modified rent plan during COVID but now we're back in full business, and the money is owed back. Parking lots do not pay themselves. Okay, so that's what it is.

[Gina]

Okay, See? You sure it's nothing more?

[Jen]

It's like, no, I mean, it's bad. We're broke and we owe a lot of money. What do you want from me?

[Gina]

Okay, but. But you don't owe it.

[Jen]

No, I do owe it, Tamara. I do.

[Gina]

So you're going to prison.

[Jen]

I could go to prison.

[Ronnie]

Like, Tamara wants something more, but Jen's just like, no, here's the honest truth.

[Gina]

Ah, damn it all Gonna have to get back on the phone and find something else.

[Tom]

So they get to vans and Elm's.

[Heather]

Like, hey, Tammers, what's on your phone?

[Slade]

Jen was ordered to pay judgment after.

[Gina]

Allegedly failing to pay red on her studio.

[Tom]

Jen's like, well, you know, when Tamara.

[Shannon]

Shows that she has concerns for me, I don't know how to feel about it. There are moments I feel like Tamara generally wants something good for me, but it never lasts.

[Heather]

Oh, that was an interesting insight, Jen, but this is another reason why she has to be smarter. This is why Jen has to be smarter about her Instagram and setting herself up, because she's got big girl issues. And that's not just a reference to her former fatty photo lawsuits and owing money. That's big deal. When you have big girl issues and people coming after you for money, you've got to get yourself up financially. So earn those $3 from Instagram.

[Gina]

Yeah. Instead of spending all your time with Eric from Three's company, maybe you should go to school and get a job.

[Jen]

Excuse me.

[Shannon]

Excuse me.

[Jen]

This is Vicki. Vicki Gulfels in here.

[Ronnie]

Good job. Good job.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Gina]

Yeah, she couldn't have been so much better off right now. She could have been so much better off five years into this if she just got the job.

[Shannon]

That's. That's.

[Tom]

That's hilarious on this show saying that. So Shannon's like, oh, she's so.

[Ronnie]

Well, she does have a job now because she's a podcaster and she sells that weed stuff that. Those CBD things. But, yeah, in general on this show, when they're. When they tried each other over jobs is pretty.

[Tom]

I know, I know.

[Shannon]

So Shannon's like, so what happened, Emily, in your boat? Did you have a nice time? We had. I had a lovely time with mine. I was with Gina. And also. What's her name? Jamari? Is that her name?

[Tom]

I don't know if I know who.

[Shannon]

She is, but she's lovely, and she's my best friend.

[Ronnie]

So then in the other van, Gene.

[Jen]

Is like, oh, my God, you guys sounded like you a lot. What were you hot about?

[Ronnie]

Gretchen's crying, and Heather's like, whoa, Gretchen.

[Jen]

Why are you crying? Oh, something's coming out of Gretchen. She's like, there's just been so much hurt over the years, and I don't want to be the person that you guys are seeing right now.

[Ronnie]

And I'm wondering if something came out online that she saw. Like, I wonder if something was released of, like, an article about all of her tweets or whatever it was because it is kind of weird that she's like all of a sudden like, oh, and she's just crying and, like, not gonna show up today.

[Tom]

That's a great theory. That's a great theory. So how does.

[Ronnie]

It's a common.

[Tamara]

It's coming. So you see that you guys are both hurting each other, right?

[Shannon]

You.

[Tamara]

You, you see that, right? It's like when I catch Alfredo and Alfredo throwing my noble balls at each other. Those are for the restaurant, not for playtime.

[Tom]

That's what I would say.

[Gina]

Yeah.

[Jen]

Like, I see, but, like, I just don't know what I'm doing and I don't want to be that person. I don't want to hurt nobody. I think it's a defense mechanism. And Heather's like, whoa. Wow. The fact that you're saying what you're saying is super impressed. There were at least 4, 3 syllable words in there.

[Tamara]

At her core, Gretchen is a really sweet girl.

[Shannon]

And.

[Tamara]

And I definitely won't regret saying this. I never heard her trash people. We've always had a very nice relationship, and it's nice to know that we can come to the end of the season. On that lovely note, between us, she's.

[Jen]

Not an evil menace. So I feel bad that she's going through this.

[Tamara]

When I see her, I don't say my turn still me. I say our turn still us.

[Jen]

Here comes one right now.

[Ronnie]

See, I don't. I think Heather has gotten so good at this. I think Heather's gotten so good at this. I think, of course Heather knows all of this stuff. I think she's really buttering up the audience.

[Jen]

Like, oh, Gretchen, what a sweet person. She would never do anything. Here I am standing up for Gretchen constantly.

[Tom]

So she probably recorded when it comes to, like, three months later after she already knew about this.

[Tamara]

And she's.

[Tom]

And she's like, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna really show America how.

[Ronnie]

How I.

[Tom]

My heart is open to this woman who's about to hurt me.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Gretchen cries. So they go back to the hotel room and Jen calls Ryan and shows her hat. And it's her says, throat, goat. And he's like, wow, love your hat, honey. Got a heart on.

[Jen]

She's like, well, Gina said that. I think when you deep throat you, I think it means like, when you deep throat you sound like a goat. That's what the hat means, honey.

[Tom]

Of course Gina would think that.

[Shannon]

Lingua. Wait, what does goat mean? So Shannon's like, adeline, hi, this is your mother calling. I have an emergency I can't walk. Today may be the last day that I have my toe. I may have to have it amputated. Adeline, do you have anything. Any last words for my toe, please? This is the last time you'll get to see it.

[Tom]

On the.

[Shannon]

On the plus side, I will be about 3 ounces lighter, so, you know.

[Slade]

Take it where you can get it.

[Ronnie]

Dear toe. Sorry, you're not her head. Love, Adeline.

[Shannon]

Well, that was a bit. I think that was a bit crass. Adeline, I am your mother, after all. I mean, I did bring you into this world.

[Jen]

Space cakes.

[Ronnie]

So then Emily leaves a voicemail, and.

[Emily]

She'S like, hi, Luke, I miss you. I'll be home in three days, but I need you to be good, okay? Be good, Luke. Be good.

[Tom]

Yeah, except she's. She's like, very, like, I'll be home.

[Heather]

In three more days. I need you to be good, Luke. Okay, I love that.

[Tom]

She's like, well, I don't know why he's. I don't know why he always acts like a little baby when he's around me. And then she's, like, leaving voicemails from.

[Katie]

Like, would you be a good boy? You know, so then, like, in the.

[Ronnie]

Middle of the night.

[Tom]

Then Heather FaceTimes Terry about going to Ace's game. She's like. He's like, well, I'm gonna sit in the bleachers.

[Shannon]

Me, Terry debrow sitting in the bleachers. Ha.

[Tamara]

Terry's a dad that spends time with the children and knows them, and that's so sweet. I've never done that. If it doesn't take place in the penthouse, I'm not going. But my dad was a great provider, but we didn't have that close a relationship. I realize now how grateful and lucky I am having grown up with a father who was emotionally distant, and I never really knew where I stood with him. But that's the thing about generational trauma. You. You just have to get through it.

[Jen]

Alfredo. So, Terry, when you are sitting in the bleachers with the less privileged, do they recognize you? Terry?

[Ronnie]

And he's like, how? Come on. When, Pete, when don't people recognize me? I mean, if people don't recognize.

[Jen]

Did it even happen? If they don't know Terry Dubrow, are they even alive?

[Tamara]

You are Television's Terry DeBrow. If they don't recognize you, you make sure they recognize you.

[Tom]

Bring a billboard next time right down.

[Ronnie]

The street from me. Like, right when you turn to come to my house, there's A billboard for Happy Place. Reba, Mike Guitar. And I crack up every time. Every time I pass it, I'm like, bitch.

[Tamara]

She never had me on Happy's Place. And I thought she was a friend.

[Jen]

So Miserable Witch's Place.

[Tom]

So I just did a drink. So back to the lobby. So Heather, in an attempt to also be Fudge.

[Tamara]

Because by the way. Okay, time to go to the next destination. We are missing Jan and Gretcher's. Gretcher's. It is very fun to add an ers at the end. Let me try this one, Wenders. That's for Wendy Malik, because I don't know, she has a friend to do that for her.

[Jen]

Sorry, that one doesn't really ring.

[Katie]

Loser.

[Jen]

That's good.

[Ronnie]

That's good for Wendy.

[Jen]

Someone pass it on.

[Shannon]

Pass that on.

[Ronnie]

So they get in a sprinter vans, and Gina's talking about how Gretchen just.

[Jen]

Doesn'T feel good on the bus and she doesn't know if she's gonna come.

[Ronnie]

And, oh, no, what's wrong with Gretcher's? And 10 minutes earlier, Jen's asking her what's wrong?

[Jen]

And she's like, I don't know. I just can't stop crying. But where does that come from? All the years, all the pain, all the hating of Tamara. What is it? Yeah, I mean, all of that. All of that.

[Ronnie]

So Jen's like, yeah, she's very emotional.

[Gina]

Emotional about what? What's she emotional about? Stupid.

[Shannon]

Oh, my God. Tamara, don't take it immediately as an attack on you.

[Jen]

Don't react.

[Tamara]

Be like Wendy Malik in an acting scene. Don't react.

[Jen]

What you're going to do was open your mouth and step back. Oh, my God, look at the name of that restaurant. Look at that name of the restaurant.

[Gina]

The ball.

[Tom]

So they're walking around a food hall.

[Slade]

And Tamara goes, I feel like we're at the mall.

[Tamara]

We are, except I don't see my mural of my tree with my children in it. Oh, I thought you said the mall house. No, we're at an actual mall. Yes.

[Tom]

Yes, we are there.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

I love that. Amsterdam's like, look, we do not have very many rules here, and people can get pretty wild, but we are not going to have Real Housewives filming in our restaurants. Have fun at food courts.

[Tom]

Okay, this is the fourth food court they've been to.

[Tamara]

I think Hannah's like, so we carry our own trays. Is that how it works? I'm not sure. I thought it was called an entree, not our tray. I don't know.

[Jen]

Is this called an on the rich person tray. Because that's what it is. I don't appreciate this. Okay, this is me, Heather Dubrow, actor for the people. May we please get a classic hot dog and onion rings, please? People will love that because I famously didn't let my husband order them for a. Sorry, a ranch party that we had one time. So look at me. Fun, fun. Heather Dubrow.

[Tamara]

Wait a moment. There is a. Look, there's a sign and. Oh, it's a very hilarious and funny sign. And it's what I'm going to say to Terry. It says, it's boom, boom, sausage time. Again from the top. It's boom, boom, sausage time. Okay, let me, let me. I. I said it's boom, boom, sausage time. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Jen]

Alfredo couldn't pudamcha while he was holding my tray. Unfortunately.

[Tamara]

Alfredo, pick up my linguini that you dropped.

[Emily]

We're shenanigans.

[Tamara]

Emily.

[Emily]

I'm the nickname person. We're shenanigans.

[Ronnie]

Sheena's like, excuse me, please stop trying to steal my name for your show because I'm going to be a future housewife of Orange county and I'm going to have something to say about this next year corner.

[Tom]

Kiki, Monique cannot like help me like come up with the name Shenanigans.

[Shannon]

And the fact that you're just like.

[Tom]

Taking it is like a real issue. I think we have to send her back down to Orange County.

[Ronnie]

Sheena Annigaines.

[Tom]

So Shannon and Jen are like doing a wacky dance through the food hall. Like they're windmilling their arms around. I think they're trying to do like a call back to Shannon's synchronized swimming bit, which I think they're really trying to make that happen. And I'm gonna say this right now, even as a big Shannon fan, that's not gonna happen.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's. That was never fun. So then we have a scene of Jen trying to set Shannon up with the 20 year old bartender. And then the women gather at the.

[Jen]

Table and Heather's like, I ordered some spring rolls. They're coming up, everybody, right after winter.

[Tamara]

Apparently that's when you take your alfredo, roll them in a carpet and send them down a hill in the spring rolls. It's so fun.

[Gina]

That really bug. Now I'm really bugs. I'm not going to say anything to her. I'm just bugged about Gretchen. I'm just bugged.

[Jen]

Well, Gretchen was very upset. She was upset.

[Gina]

Oh, you think she went and talked to Slade?

[Jen]

Well, when you're that Emotional. You call your husband. Just like when I found out what Boom Boom Sausage was, Terry was the.

[Ronnie]

First person on the horn.

[Jen]

Am I right, ladies?

[Tamara]

Boom boom sausage. So great. I almost went and called Drake, but then I remembered that we hadn't actually met yet.

[Tom]

But I.

[Tamara]

In my mind, I think that we're best friends, and we exchanged numbers, so I just. I just texted it to a random person on the book.

[Shannon]

So.

[Tamara]

Gretchen.

[Tom]

Gretchen. FaceTime. We see Gretchen at home. FaceTiming Slate.

[Slade]

Hi, Slade. I had a little meltdown. I'm trying to move forward. I really am.

[Shannon]

He's like, you know what, with everything that's happened in the past, you should just. I know. At this point, let it go. There's obviously emotional issues on both sides, and if she's willing to work things out, I know for a fact that.

[Tom]

You'D have an interest in doing that, too.

[Ronnie]

And this is where I said, oh, this is. They know what's coming. Because even for Slade to be like.

[Jen]

Oh, you know what, honey, forgive. Forget it's Tamara. Welcome her. Welcome her.

[Ronnie]

Reach out those beautiful arms of yours and just give Tamara a hug. I was like, oh, the producers warned them, or it came out on. On Instagram or something. Because she knows what's coming for sure.

[Tom]

Yeah, that's a. I think that's. You really picked up on that. See, you know, you're really good at that, Ronnie. You're really good at it. I was like, oh. I was like, that's strange.

[Ronnie]

I was like, all you have to say is people on Housewives are liars.

[Emily]

Then you win.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You get it right?

[Tom]

Gina is back. Back at the Food Hall. Gina's like, you know, I've always tried.

[Shannon]

To get Gretchen to see who? Who.

[Jen]

How?

[Shannon]

Gretches.

[Katie]

Oh, thank you.

[Shannon]

To see her side of things, and she never sees it. Like, in that bus, she did. I'm telling you right now, she swat Tamra. And I'm telling you, Tamra. Yeah. No, no, it was genuine. It was, like, genuine.

[Gina]

Yeah, it was. When Performative.

[Jen]

No, you want to talk about performative, you'll come to Cooking With Gas on Thursday. It's at the Groundlings now. How do you think she feels? Picked on like the new kid in town?

[Gina]

I don't want to pretend like she's a good person. I'm not going to do it.

[Jen]

Well, I told her she should come. Should I not tell her she should come? Because it feels like maybe she shouldn't come. I mean, I did tell her about Boom Boom Sausage. I love that you told her. About that.

[Tamara]

I love that that's our thing now. That's our thing, right? God, I love being carefree.

[Katie]

And since what are you such good.

[Gina]

Friends with the other.

[Tamara]

If you ever come for me and my boom boom sausage again, it will cost you a lot, Emily Simpson.

[Ronnie]

So Gretchen comes in.

[Jen]

She's like, I'm only two hours late.

[Ronnie]

But, I mean, so everyone's kind of tense because they were just talking about her.

[Jen]

Are you okay, Gretchers? Are you okay?

[Tom]

Us?

[Slade]

Yeah, I'm okay.

[Jen]

Well, I'm glad you're here, because I almost had to do something for this show, but now I'm glad that other people can yell at you.

[Tom]

By the way, what did you think about Tamara being pissy before Gretchen got there? When you know, that Tamara didn't like that Gretchen was feeling emotional and that Gretchen was, like, having a moment. Do you think that Tamara was like, oh, this is. She's trying to make herself seem like a victim here and, like, get, like, curry favor? Or do you think Tamara was just, like, being classically Tamara unhinged?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think she was like, oh, here's Gretchen acting like I victimized her again. You know, like, she said, we're made up, and now she's gonna act like a big victim. Like, I did something to her in that hot tub.

[Tom]

Right.

[Ronnie]

You know, because no one else was there. So Gretchen could say whatever she wants.

[Tom]

Right? So. So Gina is, like. She's, like, sitting across from Emily, and.

[Shannon]

She'S like, yeah, like, ask her. Ask Gretchen how she's doing. Like, ask how she feels to talk about. Or not. He asked Gretchen if she thinks that Shannon and Jen have a good friendship. He asked, Gret, do you think that, like, Shannon should throw me a party because I, like, moved in with Travis.

[Emily]

Wait, this feels awkward. Why do I have to do it?

[Jen]

Because I already said, how you doing?

[Emily]

Okay, then Tamara should do it. You do a Tamara?

[Shannon]

No.

[Ronnie]

So, grat.

[Jen]

Wait, what are you guys looking at?

[Shannon]

Well, I mean, everybody asked about you, and I said, she needs a minute, and she's upset, and, you know, it takes a long time and a lot of aquanet to get your hair in that, you know, like, Darth Vader blonde Darth Vader shape shape. So, like, you know, I was just trying to explain and explain your absence.

[Emily]

Grudgers. Do you want to talk about it? Come on, Gretchers.

[Jen]

She's like, no.

[Emily]

Well, I guess she needs time to process.

[Ronnie]

So Jen's like, okay, well, what's the emotion?

[Gina]

Lots of pain.

[Jen]

I hate this back and forth Tamara's.

[Gina]

Like, but we stopped it. You just started it back up. She can't say you hate it when you were the one who engaged in it. Come on.

[Tamara]

But she apologized. Hashtag boom sausage.

[Gina]

Today she did. What about yesterday?

[Shannon]

She apologized at self defense, so there was that, too. Remember that?

[Gina]

Anyway, she still did it. She still did it.

[Tamara]

I'm not saying that it was good what she did. I'm not saying it's good that she said you slept with Nelson, but she apologized.

[Jen]

I'm just feeling it's never going to be resolved.

[Emily]

Well, you guys, you agree to the crock pot to stop talking about each other. So what happened about that?

[Jen]

She's like, well, I mean, it was so long ago, but it doesn't really matter because those emotions don't disappear. You know? And I was hoping that maybe we could be like, looking back, I shouldn't have done these things. I shouldn't have said these things, you know? And Shannon's like, I can sympathize with Gretchen, because sometimes you want an apology, but the apology has to be authentic. And I've been in that situation where I just think I'm just never going to get anything authentic from Tamara. And then she grabs my boobs and puts a napkin in my choat, and we're back to square one.

[Shannon]

God, we have so much fun.

[Tamara]

Okay, everyone here has to be accountable for their part in this feud.

[Slade]

Well, however, I absolutely want to be accountable for that. And if you feel like I've been bashing you for 12 years, I'm sorry for that.

[Shannon]

Tamara.

[Slade]

Tamara's like, yeah, I know we talked about it earlier.

[Tom]

I'm like, well, okay, Tamara's being a little annoying to me. Okay, I understand why she was annoyed at Gretchen, because it seems like Gretchen was gonna be try to make herself the whole victim in this and get sympathy. But now Tamara is like, gretchen comes in here and. And Gretch. And Tamara is like, gets. Goes back to that.

[Gina]

You started it. You started it.

[Tom]

After they had allegedly, like, put down their arms. So now she's gone back to, you started. You started it. And now she's going to reverse and be like, we already talked about this. We already settled it.

[Shannon]

I'm like, what?

[Gina]

You can't.

[Katie]

Which way are you going to go, Tamara?

[Tom]

You're driving me nuts right now.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's like, why? But I think she's speaking for the audience, too, because I'm like, oh, my God, why are we talking about this again? And, like, shut up.

[Jen]

And Tamara's like, we got to Go over it.

[Gina]

Yeah, but.

[Tom]

But that's because Tamara went back to it. I mean, this is. I'm not exonerating. I'm not saying that Gretchen is like that. That Tamara doesn't have a right to be annoyed at Gretchen for trying to garner sympathy. But Tamara is the one who went right back to and said, well, you started it. It's like you guys just resolved this in those stupid boats, and now you're going back to it. And now when Gretchen's now attempting to apologize or take some accountability, now you're being like, whatever, I don't want to hear it, because we already talked about this.

[Ronnie]

So there, it's just like a circle. They're just grasping for straws. They've got nothing, basically, is what's happening. So Tamara's like, oh, my God, we agreed to not say anything, and now you want more apologies?

[Jen]

And she's like, well, I don't want this.

[Emily]

Then we'll be stuck in the same place.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, because you guys keep bringing it to the same place. So they keep kind of going in circles with this whole thing, and they're saying that maybe Gretchen is just releasing all this emotion of all these years, and that's why she's emotional. So they just leave it at that. But now it's the next day, and.

[Jen]

We get very serious music, and Gina and Emily are in bed together.

[Ronnie]

And Emily's like, well, I just have.

[Emily]

A hard time with Gretchen because there's times when I find her to be endearing. And then, you know, like, she takes a look at herself with I, which I appreciate.

[Jen]

And Gina's like, yeah, but that's why I'm struggling, because, like, I. The person in front of me, I lying. I'm starting to think, is she this other person? Like, the post, the social media? I can't get it out of my head, Emily. Which is why I haven't brought it up for the three weeks that I've known about it.

[Tom]

Yeah, I know. You know what I can't get out of my head? Why Gina, for some reason, is in full drag makeup sitting on this bed. I was like, what is going on? She's got, like, the lion outlines on her lips. She's got, like, the heavy blush. Like, are you guys. What. What's the next event you two are going to?

[Shannon]

So Gina says, about two weeks ago, I was at the dispensary with Tamara, and she brought up these incredibly alarming posts that Gretchen had liked.

[Tom]

So we see Tamara, she just is.

[Slade]

Like, hey, look at this. Yeah, go fight My fat.

[Tom]

And she basically shows the post. We have to assume very heavily it's the post where Gretchen famously liked anti trans and homophobic. There were homophobic posts too, right? I mean, it's all the same. Not the same, but it's like similar. And so Gina is like, it's so awful.

[Heather]

Emily's like, I think that's like, why I'm short with her because, like, I know about it, you know, so it's hard for me to like, recover from that.

[Tom]

Like, but you guys didn't. You guys are still waiting like two weeks to like, like, for these people who like, love to brandish the honesty flag. They are like, okay, this is a really shitty, terrible thing that Gretchen did, but you guys are going to just like wait two weeks on it and then use it as like a plot device. I was like, okay, sure, yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, again, like, you knew first. Tamara knows about this stuff and she's going to make them bring it up. Because Tamra's like, well, if I bring it up, everyone's going to call me a. But then they never bring it up. And then they wait and then they're like, well, we're desperate. We're bringing it up. You know, we have nothing. If they're. If Gretchen's not going to fight with Tamara anymore, then we need something else. Let's bring in the big guns.

[Tom]

Yeah. And so they're basically saying, yeah, like.

[Ronnie]

Oh yeah, have a hard time believing that's who Gretchen is. How could you? She's in Fox News cosplay literally every day. Like, how is this surprising? And she like a family picture prayer.

[Tom]

Before going up to Heather's house.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She's like, well, I just live by.

[Emily]

The rule of the innocent until proven guilty.

[Tom]

And at this point, yeah, sure, Emily, Yes.

[Emily]

Unless it's anybody I've ever fought with.

[Ronnie]

In the past five years.

[Emily]

But at this point, the information is coming from Tamara, so that's suspect.

[Jen]

And Gina's like, oh my God, I can't let this thing go now. Even though I've let it go for 3 weeks. Cuz it really bothers me.

[Emily]

Are you gonna tell Heather?

[Jen]

She's like, well, I don't want to tell Heather, but like, I don't want to start a thing. But like, it's such a real topic. Especially if I had. I'm like, I have to bring it off. Like, I don't want it to be the jewels. But like, it's such.

[Ronnie]

Well, what are they photoshopping likes on posts? I don't think someone would go that far to Photoshop mics on posts.

[Shannon]

So Gina's like, I'm genuinely confused by this. And anything I've heard Gretchen say has been love and light. And I mean, for God's sakes, the woman is over 40 and she still wears headbands and bows. And she doesn't seem like the sort of person that's, like, walking around launching.

[Tom]

Hate campaigns on people. I'm like, she seems like literally the exact sort of person. If you say that exact description is, like, the exact person I would expect to launch a hate campaign against someone.

[Emily]

Yeah, well, obviously, we should give her an opportunity to explain or address it.

[Jen]

Yeah. And that's something she should explain because, like, it's something she needs to explain because it's not good. And that's not okay. Even though I found out about it and I've been, like, really close with her ever since.

[Ronnie]

They are such hypocrites. But I'm glad that someone is going to bring it up.

[Tom]

I was just about to. I was about to say, like, at, like, yes, it seems questionable that they waited so long. And of course they're using it, like, in an opportunistic way. But at the same time, you know what? They. I appreciate that they are horrified by it. And, like, let's not lose sight of that, because they should be horrified.

[Shannon]

And.

[Tom]

And I'm glad that it's. It's significant for them. So it's gonna be a show next week, and I'm bracing. I'm putting on my helmet, and we are. We see previews of Heather yelling at Gretchen, as she should, and it's gonna be a wild one.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, here we go. And I will. You know, we. I went over these screenshots one time. I read you guys a bunch of them on one of the episodes. I don't have them up right now, but I'll have them up for next time because even looking for them through this, I'm seeing that headlines like, Gretchen denies ever liking these posts. Like, she's, I guess, trying to say that it's a lie. And a few weeks ago, she even followed Queer News Daily because it's like, this stuff. She knows this stuff is going to come out, so she starts following these people that'll make everyone else look like a liar. Like, no, I totally follow Queers News Daily. It's like the most obvious thing. You know, she just typed in Queer or Gay and just followed whatever she could. It's like, after the thing with Katie happened and they were calling her racist, she Called every Asian person she knew and had a luncheon and then posed in one picture with like seven Asian girls and was like, I just love.

[Jen]

Hanging out with my friends hands.

[Ronnie]

Like, we see you, Gretchen. You're not that subtle girl. Like, come on now and listen.

[Tom]

I'm all for if someone is doing something like homophobic, hateful and then they like, they stop and they listen and they learn and they, they hear from people and they, they do some work and they realize that, you know, oh, I was being closed minded. I want to better myself. I want to actually like show people that I, I actually care about improving myself on this. Like that, that I, I listen to that and I care about that and I appreciate when people really do that. But it has to be real and has to be sincere. And so, you know. Well, I'll have, I'll have to see how sincere I feel Gretchen is. But I'm not gonna, I'm very low.

[Ronnie]

No, very low. Lacking. The, like these posts she was lacking are horrible. They were horrible. It's like likening homosexuality to pedophilia. You know all the they said about trans people. This is not stuff. You just wake up, oh, I learned.

[Jen]

And I'm different now.

[Ronnie]

No, her. You know her for real. Like, that's not something you're just like.

[Jen]

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot about it.

[Ronnie]

Like, I'm different now in two days.

[Tom]

Yeah, no, what I'm saying is that like, like generally I'm, I'm okay for people to learn and grow, but, but for Gretchen, my, my, my hopes are very, very low.

[Ronnie]

Very low. Very low.

[Emily]

Very low.

[Tamara]

Too bad.

[Tom]

I was raises at the start of the season.

[Ronnie]

Too bad, too bad, Gretchen. Loser. Well, bye. Have fun with your demise.

[Tom]

Lose.

[Ronnie]

So that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of Orange County. God. This was a week of two part recaps for almost every. I think we did them for almost every show this week. That was crazy. It's been a fun one. It's been fun talking to you as always, my little Ben. Ben and everyone else, we will see you on Monday. We'll be back here with some Potomac action. And then in the afternoon we'll be doing Amazon live. For those of you who partake in that, find links for everything in our link in bio and we'll talk to you next time. Love you guys.

[Tamara]

Bye.

[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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[Tom]

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[Ronnie]

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