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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, you gorgeous man.
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Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
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Good. I love seeing you in a hotel. Setting the vertical blinds really brings us back, doesn't it?
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Is. Isn't this gorgeous? Look, I'll move out of the way so everyone can see the crack of light coming through. Oh, yeah, beautiful. I am recording.
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Are they. Those are curtains.
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They're. They're just curtains. They're just your standard hotel curtains. But I am recording from the Big Easy right here in the heart of New Orleans. It's so exciting. A New Orleans podcast. At least on my end.
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Yeah, I'm just home, but I've been looking at all your pictures, going all over Nola. It's cute. You've met some of the crappy, crappy listener Crappin's listeners. You got some pralines? Pralines?
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Whoa, whoa. No, it's the craziest thing. I got in Saturday around noon or one. I dropped myself off in the hotel and I was like, let me launch myself into the French Quarter. So I started walking over there. I walked like two blocks and then I hear Ben Mandelker and I look and it is someone named Kate who we Actually met in Seattle. Kate lives in Washington. But Kate famously sent us that video of Heather debrow talking to someone at the no NOLA airport, because I guess she was in NOLA earlier this year and this was Kate again. And Kate had gotten married the night before, and she was now packing up to leave to go on to the next chapter, whatever. But I guess she had come back to New Orleans to get married. And what are the odds? I almost didn't even take that walking route and I changed it at the last second. And what were the odds to run into Kate, who lives in D. In Washington, not D.C. but Washington state right there on the street? So that was very funny to me. I love it. Yeah. And then on top of that, also our friend Michelle Turner from Entertainment Tonight, she was staying a block away, it turns out. So then I went and got to hang out with her. And then she's like, I'm going to drive you. She's like, I'll drive you to dinner. Because I had a dinner reservation. And then there was a parade and the parade let out. Of course. There was a parade, by the way. Of course, in New Orleans, the parade, that all. It was a crazy parade. And we got stuck in the parade traffic for an hour to go like two miles away. It was wild. Wild. So it's been like a. It's been full of all sorts of adventure here in. Oh, oh, did I. Did I lose my connection here a little bit?
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So you were. You were just sitting in traffic with Michelle?
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I was for an hour, which was great. It's a great way to bond with someone. So.
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Yeah, that's a great. That's a great person to get stuck in traffic with.
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She's awesome. That's what we did for an hour. We just. We just sang that. We sang the Entertainment Tonight theme song for an hour.
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Talked about what a little bitch John Tesh was. Mary Hart.
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Am I right? So it's been so fun here. Oh, I saw a little baby alligator. A little baby alligator. Isn't that funny? Yeah, that's pretty cute, I guess. It's not funny. It's not funny at all. It's just like. It was basically.
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Well, it's funny for you because I already imagined the squeal you squealed as you ran and hid.
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No, I was from. I was in a safe distance. No, Dom and I went back to that. Remember we went to that park where we went to. What's it called? Cafe Dumond. So Dom and I went back to that park and there's like a little Like, a little lake, a little pond in there. And there was, like, a little girl just, like, walking around, and she started throwing bread at all the. At all the ibises. All these birds are flocking, and it's like, don't do that, because you're going to attract the alligators. And sure enough, there had been, like, a little alligator that had been sunning. I mean, it was about as long as a shoe, maybe a little bit longer. And then, of course, it started paddling over, like, oh, yeah. I mean, get an ibis. As if it could. It was so small. But I love that, like, toxic masculinity runs even in alligators. And so. So then, like, we had to, like, tell the little girls, like, parents, like, don't throw bread because it attracts birds and birds attract alligators. And they're like, huh? Like, because there's an alligator right there, they're like, oh, no, Charlize, get over here.
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So anyway, they're like, whatever, loser. Their child's legs are sticking out of an alligator mouth. Like, whatever. It's like being rolled.
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And I'm so upset. And I'm so upset because Robin, the singer from Southern Charm New Orleans, she sings in this hotel, but not during the time that I'm staying here. It's like, on Thursdays only. So I'm very sad that to be missing Robin. Aw.
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Well, good.
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I'm glad you're in my entire New Orleans. Yes, my New Orleans. Wrap up for everyone. This has been Ben's eye on New Orleans. Oh, I also ate at Nina Compton's restaurant last night. That's the last thing I'll mention. Nina Compton, who is on Top Chef, who we love, and we also feel like should have won her season of Top Chef. Was that Top Chef Philadelphia? Maybe she was on. I don't remember, but she should have won Top Chef. And we ate at a restaurant last night, which I gotta say, was good. Not great. Not gonna lie. It could have been better. Could have been better.
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Carlos Gaetan's restaurant in Disneyland. Like Downtown Disney. He has a restaurant in Downtown Disney. And it was amazing.
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Yeah.
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He's a Top Chef. It was. He's a Michelin star Chef now. I had no idea.
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Wow.
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So delicious. That was some of the best food I've ever had. We both had a Top Chef weekend.
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I know. I was sad about Nina's restaurant. I sort of got the sense that, like, Nina's restaurant was probably amazing when it first opened, but now it's been a few years, and I don't think she's back there in the kitchen. And it's kind of like one of those things where you feel like maybe the quality has lapsed a little bit. Like, it was overall, like, good, but, like, there was some stuff that was so salty. Like, my entree was so salty, Like, I almost couldn't finish it. But of course I did. But it was. It was good. It was definitely good.
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That was a shame.
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I love that. I know. I love Nina, too. I don't hold it against her. I hold it against whoever's running the kitchen back there.
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Yeah. All right, well, whoever works there, kill that person and everybody else should be fired. Throw that person overboard. Throw that person to the baby alligator. And everybody else, welcome to Watro Kraffin. So tonight we are doing Amazon live at 4pm Pacific Time. Join us there. You can find that on your Amazon Prime TV app or you can just find the link in our link in bio at Instagram. And then next Monday, we will be doing crappy hour at 5:30pm Pacific time over on YouTube live Patreon. And Instagram is free everywhere. So just join us for that super fun. And I think that's it. That's all we have to promote right now.
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That's it.
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Whoa. Isn't that great?
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Yeah.
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So today is Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode 4 Tropic. Like, it's hot.
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What a funny episode. This episode was so good. Potomac is really strong this season. Less strong is Kieran. She's really. She's starting to grade me. Why is it that anytime someone walks onto an episode, Kieran gives them stank eye? Like, really? Like you were trying too hard to be relevant this season. Like, you went from being invisible to doing too much.
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Well, you know why I'm liking this season so far? Because it's an audition season and we love some Bravo auditions. This is where Bravo is like, oh, it's time. We need to get a whole bunch of new housewives. Let's just throw a whole bunch of people in there. And I include Kierna in this because even though she's been here three years now, it doesn't seem like it.
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She's still.
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They're like, you're still auditioning, Kierna? But, yeah, everybody's auditioning. And it's like Housewives improv. You guys come in here, we're going to put you to lunch. You guys better fight about something or you're out of here. Da na na na na na na na na. And they have to come in and do their audition and they are trying so fucking hard. And it's so stupid. It's literally one of the dumbest seasons of any Housewives show. I think we've watched as far as like trying to have a fight every five minutes. And they're all just idiotic. They're all idiotic. I mean, Giselle came after someone in all seriousness over Instagram filters.
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She really.
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I mean, it's so stupid, but it's still funny. And I love to watch a good audition. That's why Chorus Line is such a great show and even movie, despite the bad reviews when it came out.
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I hope you settled that.
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I hope I get it. How many housewives do they need? So that's how I'm looking at it and it's making it much more enjoyable.
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Yeah, I think it's like a great season so far. I am a little surprised that angel is a full time housewife because she definitely gives friend of energy. She feels like a new version of Jacqueline quite a bit. So I'm really surprised. Maybe it's because she has a football player husband, but Jassy has a football player husband and she's not full time. And I always. I was thinking to myself originally, like, it's shocking that they didn't make Jassy a full time housewife both last season and this season. But now I'm realizing that there is a certain joy in like keeping Jassy as a friend of like. Like there's certain people, like on Miami, you have Adriana and Marisol who are kept in friend of jail and because they want it so badly that it's almost more. It's almost funnier seeing them strive so hard to get the act, like to be like full time, like housewife. How Marlo was so good as someone who just wanted to be a housewife and then she became housewife and it wasn't as good. And so I think they discovered that with Jassy, she's someone who probably could be a housewife, but it's a bit more entertaining to keep her on the fringes. So she's like working really hard for it.
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Mm. Yeah. I mean, Jassy's kind of a non starter for me. She always has been. I don't really get it. I shouldn't say non starter, no pun intended, because someone's been a starter for 10 years or whatever, which is another stupid argument in this. But she's. But I agree about the other one, angel, but I love that angel doesn't really seem cut out for this. And so they're Just, you know, it's like when you have a piece of meat that's too rough and you don't want to marinate it overnight. And so you put it in a plastic bag with all of the seasonings and then you just beat the crap out of it with a mallet and just hope that it, hope that it tenderizes. That's what they're doing right now to Angel. They've thrown her in a plastic bag with some adobo and some chicken stock and they are just pounding the shit out of her for no reason. And it's hilarious. They just keep attacking this poor woman for nothing. She hasn't done anything to anyone. And they're literally like, let's just pound angel every episode. Let's see if we can make it.
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Well, they sense weakness. They sense weakness and she's like a little slippery.
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They also sense money. And you know, this cast gets very jealous.
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They do. There's money, there's weakness, there's slipperiness. Because, I mean, angel does sometimes forget certain things that have been, you know, shown on camera. So I think they're, they don't, I don't think that they respect someone who comes on as a lap dog and they're seeing her as a lap dog and there probably is a sense of like, wait a second, she gets to be a full time housewife, but she is giving friend of energy because the friend of are usually the lap dogs. So I think they're coming for her about. I, I think they just. The reason why Giselle is going to come at her about Instagram filters is because she senses that this woman is weak and she can do it, you know, and angel does not do a very good job of being like, you better shut the fuck up, Giselle. You know, she instead tries to sort of explain it, etc. And now Wendy, Wendy is eating her up. And I don't know how she's going to make it through this season, quite frankly. I think she's like, I think she's, she's already, she's already lost.
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I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going to, I'm not putting it past her because the ones who have like retreats and the ones that are into meditation, I say it every time there's a character like this. They are always the craziest people in real life and on these shows. And so they just need to break her down. And they will, they will break her down. She's already close. They're going to break her and then we'll see what comes out. You know, they're going to make that flower bloom early, so we're going to see what's going to happen. I'm still holding out hope for her. I'm still holding out hope they want.
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Her to turn on Kieran. If she turns on Kierna, which there were sort of hints that she was going to, then, then I think they will be happy. And the funny part is, which I almost forgot about, is that we had the first sign of a rift between Kieran and Angel was the fact that angel actually stood up for Wendy in the whole beef about Wendy asking Kierna if she did her own makeup. And angel said, well, did you ask Wendy how she was doing? So, if anything, angel was taking up for Wendy. And then Wendy completely, you know, last episode kind of like, turned the tables on Angel. And now angel, of course, doesn't like Wendy anymore. But I think if she turns on Kierna, then Giselle will ease off. Because they love that. They love when someone turns on their friend. Yeah.
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They just need to get them fighting so that they don't have to try so hard. Because Ashley and Giselle and Wendy are all three trying really hard. They're just like, let's start some fights, get these people going so we can sit back and not have to do much, you know? But it's gonna take a lot of work, so we'll see who breaks first and who becomes crazy. But they got Tia today, too. And Tia didn't have any problem shutting Ashley down, which was glorious.
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It was glorious to see.
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Tia had a great episode. She cemented herself as one of my faves.
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Oh, yeah.
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Even though she already.
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Yes, Tia was so good. Yeah, she already was. But now we actually have something tangible to be, like, why she's our favorite. Beyond just having an accent, it was like she lived up exactly to our potential. And Tia. Tia walks around this cast like she's been on the show for four years already, which is what I love about her. She's so self possessed. And she just. I mean, the way she just. Wow. The way she handled Ashley was so hilarious and so great. She basically treated Ashley like one of her daughters and got it together. And then her own son. She got her son together. When her son, like, threatened to be adopted away from the family, she's like, okay, well, don't do it before Sunday.
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Thank you so much. And be sure it's somewhere close so I can call you. Mommy will miss you when you're adopted. So good. All right. Well, let's get it going. So we are on our way to Preakness in the sprinter van, and Karen is still trying with Stacy. She's, you know, she's done with Stacy. And she's like, you can do anything now, Stacy. And she's like, kay hates me. I just. I've never understood when. I mean, I'm just breathing. And she's like, I hate the way you breathe, girl. Everyone on this cast hates the way you breathe. Have you not been paying attention the past four weeks?
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Use a different analogy. This one sets you up for failure. So Kieran is like, stacey, stop touching me. Stop touching me in your hair. Like, just, Stacey, you gotta try to be my friend. And everyone's like, Giselle's like, yes, Stacy, you are a toucher. Put your butt back. Get your butt back over there. Yeah, I think that, like, I'm ready to see some horses and, like, make some money. Like, that's the only came here to do and everything. So now they're, like, settling down from their little fight that they had before.
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And Greg has given her 20s to give to everybody. Big spender over there. So now they go to Preakness. And this is so Kieran, too, to be like, my boyfriend gave us money to spend. Ladies, here's a 20.
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I know. Giving everyone $20. Kierna, come on.
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That is so sad. I mean, Hundy's, maybe Hyundai, minimum. If you're going to be handing out.
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Bills, I think 20. And then how many are like, yeah.
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And then she's like, I'm going to give that girl less money. Less than 20, girl. Come on. Is there a laundromat buy so you can get some actual quarters to give people? You cheap ass. So they arrive, and Wendy has little gold binoculars, which she holds up all the time because that's a plop. And she's in the bop comedy. And she's hilarious. Wendy's like, hilarious, you guys. So she does that. They take a group shot and stuff. And she's like, I'm so excited to host the ladies at Puignes. We can all enjoy the festivities. First lady, first lady. First lady. First lady. First lady.
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First lady, who I know very well. I'm going to be seeing her in a little bit. She's going to love us. She can hang out with us. So Kiana gives out her $20 and again, less, less to Stacy. And then. And then they're all just, like, all excited to be there and everything. And Stacy is like, like, cannot believe she got less. And Kieran Karen was trying to get changed to give Stacy the fewer than $20. I think, again, Kieran really thinks that she's being, like, so hilarious by giving Stacy less than $20. But I'm like, you don't understand. You just like that $20 is already your high watermark. It's just too sad. Like, so it doesn't. It's not funny when you're giving Stacy less. It's just more emphasizes how sad your initial offer is. And later on, Giselle will show you exactly what a Potomac level shade prop shade is. Not like giving $15 instead of $20.
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I mean, you might as well be handing out discount car wash coupons. You know, it's embarrassing, Karen. It's embarrassing. So now they're like, you know, twerking for their money or whatever. And now she's like, I'll give you a titty. And so Stacy tries to twerk with them. And, you know, it's Stacy twerking, which is basically like watching a toothpick in the wind.
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Just kind of toothpick in the wind.
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It's not gonna work.
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No. So then they're just still all talking everything, and they're being silly, placing bets. And Wendy, in the middle of it, says, you know, just bring my name up to Angel. She'll talk about me for seven minutes. And Giselle's like, ooh, something happened. Something's happening. Where'd you all go, by the way? Where'd you all go to school? Temple. And Wendy's like, yeah, but we didn't know. We don't know each other. I never spoke with her whatsoever. But then she goes, but I did hear that she didn't graduate. Which is funny. Like, you don't know. You didn't know her. You didn't speak with her, but somehow you know whether or not she graduated from Temple. Interesting.
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Yeah. And angel isn't trying to make a storyline like, she knows Wendy. This isn't that. And Wendy's trying to make it that. But it's not that Wendy every season wants to make it like somebody's just dying to know her. It's like, thing all over again where she's like, oh, she's just dying to know me. As if her mom didn't call her and threaten her life or whatever that whole thing was. She's like, sure, but also, I miss that storyline. The way of the mob threatening Wendy's.
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Mom, calling and threatening Neca.
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That was so good.
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A season of Shrine Fights. Oh, my God.
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I.
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This. The Shrine Battle was. Was a Rough one. But that was another example where Wendy was like, I don't even know the school. I don't know who she is. And I was like, Wendy was, like, friends with Wendy. I'm sorry. Neca was friends with Wendy's sister. Like, they definitely knew each other. And Wendy was acting like she didn't know. So again, here comes Wendy acting like she doesn't know who angel is and yet seems to know enough that. That she didn't graduate. So Giselle.
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But all angel said was that she know she knew her, but they weren't friends like, that. They just went to the same school and she saw school. So Angel's not trying to make it sound like, oh, I know Wendy.
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Ooh.
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But Wendy's trying to make it sound like angel is saying that. And it's, you know, it's kind of embarrassing for Wendy, but it's very on brand, so I enjoy it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
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So Giselle's like, wow. But just the other day, she said she graduated in, what, 09? And you graduated 03. And Wendy's like, 06. So Giselle's like, well, let me check my sources, because the word on the street is that didn't happen. Well, I think something may have transpired. That's why she left. And, like, Wendy's, like, looking away like. Like she's dropping. Dropping some tea and everything.
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And Giselle. Giselle's really funny in this scene because she just kind of drops her mouth and looks at Wendy like, oh, my God. That is the least subtle I've ever seen. You try to be. As far as trying to get me to be messy, but I'll do it anyway. She just laughs in her face. She's like, okay, I'll still do it. She's like, you still have no chill with any of this storyline forming, but I'll do it for you anyway. I'm bored.
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I know. In fact, I'm surprised that that's what you. That she chose Instagram filters over graduation controversy for this evening's grand clash at the dinner table. She's like, you know what? I will go with the one that I can more easily prosecute. What are these? Instagram filters.
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Yeah. So, wow, guys. Huge controversy. One of them graduated in 09, and one of them graduated in 03. So it's big. There's a big fight brewing. So now they're talking about whether or not Stacy bet, and she's like, I'm not betting. Kay's. Giving a tutorial. I don't know, but I put that $20 in my pocket.
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Girl.
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That's how you stay rich.
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And then meanwhile, this, like, random guy, we cut to, like, this guy, this, like, handsome guy is talking to Ashley, and he's like, you seem like an interesting person. I'd love to get to know bit more, maybe take you out. I was like, wow. So this man is. He looks tall, handsome, wealthy, respectful, interesting. He has no shot with Ashley unless you are Bald and over 60 and creepy and look like you may want to throw a ring into a volcano. I'm sorry, sir. You better move along.
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I'm sorry. Unless you look like the bottom of a shoe, you are not welcome here, sir.
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Unless you look like one of the rock trolls from Frozen. Unfortunately, you're just gonna have to move on, sir. What? You thought you could just win over Ashley because you're handsome and seem to have a nice personality and a respectful. I don't think so, sir.
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Unless you have the face of a baby as seen through one of those machines they look at babies at. What are those machines? What is it called when you go to get your baby looked at when it's inside your stomach?
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Ultrasound.
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Yeah. Unless you have the face of an electrosound baby.
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Unless you look like the baby from Roger Rabbit playing the boss. Baby playing Gollum, you're just not going to have a shot at Ashley Darby.
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I'm sorry, but unless you look like a blister that's about to pop, you are not welcome here, sir. Okay. We need crustier. Crusty.
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Good luck to you.
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Sorry. Not in a shame for everything out of your eyes and nose. Sorry.
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Shame on you for thinking that your beautiful face and nice personality would ever win over a woman. You have failed.
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But also, what a thirst bomb to be at Preakness with cameras everywhere and being like, I'm gonna go hit on one of those people on camera. Like, sit. Go over there.
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Yes.
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No one needs you here. You thirsty? Thirsty man. So now they sit down to eat, and Angel's feet hurt. That's her storyline. And Stacy's like, I can't believe Ashley's been here five minutes and she already has a date. How is that possible? Wait, are you still seeing Beavis? What happened to Beavis? And she's like, well, well, we're figuring it out. But right now, I have no boyfriend and no husband.
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So you're single until you're married? That's how I feel. And Stacey's like, giselle, do you have a boyfriend? I Do not. Duh. So you're single? I'm single. All right. I'll just stick that in my pocket for later tonight. Got it.
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So we find out that angel is going to try and set Giselle up with somebody. And Wendy's like, is he bald? He is. Is he chocolate? Giselle's like, oh, my God, I hate you guys. And he is. And they're like, that's all she. That's all she needs. Good job. Good pick.
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Yeah. We see pictures of Jamal and Sherman. Sherman. God, the one that got away. Sherman. That's him. Giselle's like, okay, you have some work to do after. After this trip. So Ashley is. They're all sitting at this table. So Ash is going to try to be messy, and she's about to fail because she's like, hey, everyone. So I called you guys while you were shopping, and, like, I was very happy to invite Wendy and Giselle to come over and have a fun time. And then from what I understand, Tia, you called me rude because I didn't invite the whole group. And so we've seen that.
A
Basically, audition time. Let's see how it goes. It's audition number one. Tia. Tia, love your headshot. Don't have much credits, but you know what? We're here to find new talent. Let's see how she does.
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So we see a flashback, and basically it was like. Like, four of the of the women were there or something like that. Or three of the women, and Ashley called them, was on speakerphone, and invited only two of the three women to go shopping with her, excluding Tia. And so when Ash got off the phone, Tia was like, hey, rude. And so now Ash has heard that Tia said rude because clearly Giselle was like, oh, Tia said you were rude because Giselle is so messy. And now the audition begins. And scene.
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Well, it was just tongue in cheek because we were all there. Now, usually if you're not inviting the other people, you would maybe not invite them in front of the person you're inviting. So, yeah, I was like, oh, rude. And then Kierna goes, what's tongue in cheek? Sorry, it's Kierna. We don't have time to teach you English, okay? It's hard enough trying to teach you housewifery. You are here in your third year, and you still don't know how to do this. We can't teach you English as well. Okay, what's next? Freaking math? We don't have time for this, okay? Don't homeschool.
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My friend in high school, Sana, She Used to think the expression was tongue in chic. So she used to be like, ooh, I love that. It's very tongue in cheek. I'm like, sana, you're saying it wrong. And she's like, really? I was like, yes, Sana now writes for the New Yorker, but, you know, whatever. Also, English was not her first language.
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Maybe not anymore. This is going to come up in the lunchroom, and they're going to be like, you're out of here.
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She's like, well, I just always wanted to write for such a Tongue in Cheek publication. But she doesn't write for the New Yorker. She writes short stories that. Anyway, this point is.
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That's pretty good. But at one point, Writer, you've been published in the New Yorker.
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I know. She's really good. She's really good. But I just loved how she's always been like. Cause Sana was. Sana was very. I always enjoyed Sana quite a bit, but it was always so funny when I just remember being in chemistry class, and she just turned around and said, ben, that's very tongue. And she. Tongue in cheek. I was like, tongue in cheek. It didn't make any sense.
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You know, for me to make fun of everybody or make fun of anybody is really something, because until a few years ago, I said that things were macabre. So there you go.
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Yeah, like. Like Hanukkah. It's like, judas macabre.
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So there you go.
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Well, I. I've also entered a phase in my life where, for no good reason, I now say, no, I can't even. I can't even remember the word that I mispronounced. It's the one. It starts. It's one of those Latin words. Whatever. Moving on.
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So Tia tries to explain. She says, tongue in cheek. Well, it wasn't that serious or deep, but I want to know. Okay, well, it just rolled off my tongue. Yeah, but it's like a chin check. But it's not just. No, chin check is aggressive. Tongue in cheek is not aggressive. My God.
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I understand that both expressions feature parts of the face, but they're not exactly the same thing. Kiana, you're both.
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And Ashley, who I also think doesn't know what tongue in cheek means, is like. Yeah, but then you kind of shaded me, and you said it was tongue in cheek. She goes, no. I said, no, listen, tongue in cheek is not shade.
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Keep up. Keep up.
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And when he goes, oh, no, not keep up.
B
Keep up was great. Keep up. I'm a British person telling you about tongue in cheek. Also, I don't know if Ness. Actually, I don't. I'm not totally sure that when Tia said rude that it was totally tongue in cheek. But it was, I guess tongue in cheek enough. So Ash is like, well, sometimes when people do something that's tongue in cheek, it's inadvertently shady. So I am keeping up. Actually, if I think you're rude today, I will say to you, actually, I think you're very rude.
A
So if I.
B
So if I apologize and I said I did not mean it, I've already spoken about it. I don't know what you're struggling with.
A
I'm not struggling. And Giselle's like, this is no longer tongue in cheek. It's like Giselle's got it. I like that Giselle got it.
B
Especially if there's been a real offense, then we can be offended. But if I said I've apologized now it's your choice. If you want to keep digging, dig. But I'm not going to get dirty with you. And can I just say I do have an issue with you right now. Because when I met Giselle, she said to me, the minute my friend Ashley meets you, she's going to fancy you. And nothing. Not a bum pinch, not an anything. I'm just disappointed. See how miraculously made this light hearted? So you've forgotten about the fact that I just totally destroyed you over the issue of tongue in cheek.
A
Told me that you were a lesbian for attention. And I was really hoping that I would get hit on in some sort of a way. A little bum chick, a little make out in a western bar in front of handsome men to try and pull their attention towards you. And nothing. Nothing. Not even a little Katy Perry. I kissed a girl in passing. Come on. She's like, where's my. Where's my bi action? But also just to clear the air, it was fucking rude, Ashley, for you to call on microphone when. When three people are there and only invite two of them. That is rude. So what are you asking for? An apology was rude?
B
Yeah, it was 100% rude. And by the way, Tia saying is like the smallest thing compared to the things that people actually do. Going back to that shrine fight, don't forget, that entire shrine fight was started because Ashley sat down Wendy and spread some misinformation. I would say like, you know, you're gonna like try to comfortia for just saying the word rude when you actually caused a season long rift between two women because you were being messy. I don't think that like you're one to be complaining about people doing obnoxious things. So Jassy then comes over, she's like, hey, oh my God, they let me film with you guys today. How's everyone doing? And so she's all excited. Everyone says hi and it's like, oh, my God, Jassy. And of course they cut to Kieran who has like stink sang face on. It's like, what now, Kiera? Like, what? What did Jassy do? And.
A
Number two, Jassy versus Angel. Here we go. So Angel's like, oh, hey, so I hear you're a wag. And it says on the screen wives and girlfriends of high, high profile sportsmen and women. Jassy's like, wait, yeah. So Jassy's like, huh? And she's like, fellow wag here. So they kind of give high fives. And so she's like, oh, and you're a princess over there. Nice to meet you. So they talk about Darius and they're, you know, planning their wedding. And guys, dating is one thing, but planning a wedding, that is a whole different thing. I mean, where do we put the illegitimate children? I mean, can they hold flowers yet? Are they allowed to be flower girls? So they do that. They've closed the rsvp.
B
I love when. And I love when Jessie just going back for a second. When Jess sits down, everything is going good. And she goes, we're in counseling. She's like, guys, it's so great. We're in counseling. That's like, I already told the producers, I think they may film it. Fingers crossed.
A
Guys, we're planning a wedding right now through the shrink because Darius is still crazy. Well, hopefully we work that out before the wedding. Yeah, it's going great. So we closed the RSVPs and it's just a weight off my shoulder. So, you know, it's time for some girl time. Am I right? What better time? Just got out of therapy. Come to Preakness. Come to Preakness.
B
So Angel's like, oh, Jassy. What position does he play? He's a linebacker. What was. What position was Bobby? Oh, he was a tackle. He started for 10 years. Yeah, started. That means he. He was a. He was an important. Bobby Massey tackle. He's a football player. So famous. Oh my God, you should see when he would talk to Bob Costas. Like Bob Costas said he was his favorite. Yeah, Just putting that out there. Yeah. Yeah, it was huge. Huge fan. People. People just love my husband. Anyway, tell me more about yours.
A
What a coincidence. Ashley has been starting for 10 years. As well as she's like, yeah, tongue in cheek, my ass. So then Wendy's like, oh, no, not started. I know. She didn't say started. I know that's right. Like, that was offensive. What she said was not offensive. I don't care what anybody says. I was not offensive. She asked, what is he playing? And she said, he was a tackle and he started for 10 years.
B
But, like, it was one thing. I don't know. It landed a little bit like a brag. She was like, he was a starter. He was a starter. Like, it was almost like, well, if the question was what position was it? Like, she just sort of leaned in and then added that little sizzle to it. It just. I don't know. There is a difference between saying, oh, he was a. He was a tackle and he was a starter for 10 years, which was really cool. That's one thing versus, like, what position. What position does your husband play? Oh, he's a linebagger. My husband was attacker. He was a starter. He was a starter.
A
Well, I'm sorry that my husband there.
B
Was, like, a thirsty element.
A
I'm sorry that my husband has a better resume than your husband, but I'm not gonna dim my light for your husband, okay. For your tackle husband. I mean, for your linebacker husband. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna dim. I'm not gonna dim my startle light. My starter light for a linebacker. Okay.
B
Well, it came off a little bit more as a flex than as exposition, if you ask me. And it will be.
A
Well, they're allowed to flex. They literally call themselves wags. I mean, that's a wife of a sports person. So I say, that's what you do. Your bragging is in your nickname. So I say, go for it.
B
So.
A
Let'S just call that.
B
It's okay, it's a minor. It's. That's a. It's a. It's. It's a minor. Minor split. It's not. Not the end of the world.
A
I think. Another example. I've got an announcement to make.
B
It's just another thing where angel is just sort of. She's, like, kind of, like, flopping a little bit. She's not quite, like, land. Whatever. If she is just trying to benignly say, like, oh, my God, yeah, he was a starter for, like, 10 years. Whatever. If she was trying to say that, I don't think it landed the way she was. She was intending well, no, not with.
A
Everybody around her going, oh, I can't.
B
Believe she said that.
A
So Wendy's like, oh, no, not started. I know. That's why. And Angel's like, yeah, he did. He was a 10 year starter. So Wendy pulls out her binoculars and she's like, ooh, 10 years starter. Ooh. Then you thought of. I'm like, how many degrees do you have again?
B
And then when Ms.
A
Person who doesn't like bragging and others.
B
Give me a break. That's true. That's very true. And then Jassy does mention Darius is on his seventh year. Sixth child. Seventh year. So happy counseling. They go outside to go watch some races, and the horses are going by and everything. And Ashley is. Ash is asking Kierna, are you okay with Jassy? Like, your body language really changed when she showed up at the table. And Karen is like, well, I thought we were. I mean, I heard some interesting things. And then, like, she had, like, a problem with me, apparently. And now she's like, well, she's been talking about you in the streets and I came back to you. Is that what you're saying? And she's like, yeah, like someone brought it back to me. Like, yeah, like, Jesse, come here, Jesse. Okay, Jesse. I kind of word that, like, you and Stacy had an issue with me.
A
Not. Not. Audition number three, Kierna versus Jassy. Ben.
B
Jess is like, well, I'm not aware either. I don't think. I don't think I was talking unless I was talking about you in counseling with Darius. We're doing it, guys. We did it, Joe.
A
So Kieran is like, you told me this, Wendy. And so Wendy's like, what?
B
What?
A
Yeah, remember when you come on auditions, we don't have all day here, okay? We've got a lot of people to see. The lines are around the block.
B
Keep it.
A
So she's like, okay, you remember when you said that Jassy and Stacy had, like, a little issue with me? And she's like, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, guys. This is the first lady. This is the first lady. Okay, hold on. See that lady behind the fence that they're not letting us get near? Hold on a second. Let me go up to the fence. First lady. First lady. It's me. First lady. First lady. So she's like, first lady Dunmore. First lady Dunmore. How are you, first lady? And then we just see. We just see a blur on the face and an arrow pointing through the fence at the first lady.
B
Dawn Moore barely even gets into frame. Like, it's literally like it's so off the side and there's like a little Thing that says Don Moore did not want to appear on Real Housewives of Potomac. She's like. And I'm like, I'm wondering if she made that request after Wendy went to jail. I kind of think, no. I think this is even before Wendy got arrested. I think Dawn Moore was like, I want nothing to do with this. Uh, and in fact, you know that because Dawn Moore literally had put up a fence. Like, she was on the other side of a fence. Like, the Real Housewives were, like, in their own penned off area. Stay away.
A
It's like chain link.
B
Yeah.
A
So Don Moore. Dawn Moore. Hi, Dawn Moore. Do you have anything to say to television? She's like, please don't show me. So Giselle's like, okay, what was happening at.
B
Oh, so Karen is like, okay, like, back to my fight. So I, like, told Jassy that you and Stacy had, like, an issue. So to me. So, like. And that wasn't privy about. And I was, like, very taken aback by that because I said, like, wow, I didn't know that Jesse. I had an issue. And Jesse's like, well, I'm a little bit taken back as well. What's going on? Should we get some more cameras in here? Because this is sort of like a big Jassy fight right now. Anyone? Anyone? No?
A
Okay. Okay, let me do. Don Moore's not looking anymore, right? First Lady Don Moore. Okay, First Lady Dawn Moore is not here anymore. We can continue. So you and I were talking on the phone. Remember there was a whole conversation about who's going to be at the NAACP Awards? And then I said, do you know if Kay is coming? And then you said, ah, So I don't know like that. So that's the conversation I had with you. You know, I said it. That. This seems like there's something there. This seems like there's something there. That was it. Because, remember, you said, I don't know. That sounds like it could be something. I mean, come on. Are you guys even hiring a pianist for this audition? Make some effort.
B
Commercials. Here comes one right now. So Jass is like, okay, so it seems like there's like, there's something there, and we have a beef is like two different things. Like, Wendy was just being messy. You know, she's like, no, I wasn't being messy. I was just saying it seemed like there might have been an issue there. So Jassy is basically like, yeah, that was a stretch. So Kieran's like, well, Wendy told me that she had just picked up an issue. And then when. When people Say they picked up an issue. They, like, didn't pick it up from nowhere. So, like, Karen, here's the thing. Why, like, if. If you suspect that Wendy no longer has your best interest and is a fake friend to you, if you think that this woman is out to undermine you, as you've been saying for the first four episodes of the season or three episodes, why do you suddenly believe that her word is gospel when it comes to what Jassy has to say?
A
Karen is not the brightest bulb on the tree.
B
She's like, okay, I'll bulb in the silverware drawer. That's for sure. She's. Yeah, Kieran. Kieran is just trying it. I mean, like, every single person who comes onto the screen, she has an issue. Every single person, she is trying so hard. And like, I'm glad she's trying more than last season. But, like, let's. Let's keep it within reason.
A
So Kieran was like, jassy, we can do a lot of things, but baby, I don't have time to do no lie. And Jassy's like, okay, listen. Now look, I know that you're going through a lot with Greg. Yeah. So I don't want you to take that out on me. I mean, I know how difficult it must be to be with you. You know, that polyester enforcer. So, you know, I'm sorry for you. Your skin must be itching for that uniform. So I'm sorry.
B
I know you must be going through a lot with Greg. With what? With him not being a football player, not being a seven year starter, not having really anything close to having abs. That must be very difficult for you. But you know, my heart goes out to. It was. It was so beautifully condescending. I loved it from Jassy.
A
Don't speak on me and my man. You know that you do lying. So I'm gonna keep it at that. Lying doer.
B
Oh, I do lying.
A
She's like, oh, I do lying now, do I?
B
I do lying. Oh, got it.
A
Okay.
B
Got it.
A
Yeah, I do lying. Okay, okay.
B
You're going through a lot and I'm gonna. I'm gonna be here for you. You're going through so much, sis. I understand. She's like, no, you're going through a lot. You're marrying a man that has two kids on you. I get it. And we see a flashback to Jassy trying to explain that situation was good. There were two boys that were created before me. They were manufactured before I arrived.
A
There were pre existing souls that were put together, creatively before I arrived on the scene, like, oh, okay. So Stacy's like, that is too low. That is too low. And Keanu's like, you're marrying a man that had two kids on you. So I can understand that you're going through a lot, but, baby, I'm not going through nothing. And Jassy's like, okay, I just want to give you some grace. Okay. That's so sad.
B
I mean, Kay's in a rough spot. I would be upset, too, if all I got was a little condo that he didn't even pay for. Oh, man, she's so. She's being so hilarious to me because, you know, I love an asshole like that. You know, I love a. When. Like a. Like when someone is just gonna, like, condescend like that. Ugh. I love it.
A
But, yeah, Kieran is starting it, and she's losing it very quickly. So Tia's like, well, is she coming on holiday with us? I like that one. Mad, jazzy girl. Giselle's like, I don't know. I haven't decided. And Karen is saying, oh, well, it's giving me vibes. And I remember, you know, I'm sorry, that's a no for me. Please don't take me out of my element. I'm working very hard. And Angel. Angel. Now, this is important, because angel just goes, bring Charisse. I like her. She didn't say, don't bring Jassy. She just said, bring Shareese. I like her.
B
Correct. She did. By the way, the moment that Kierna said, that's a no for me, it's like, sorry, like, don't take me out of my element. I'm working hard. Giselle just hears. Okay, so that means I definitely bring Jesse. Absolutely. Like, the moment you tell Giselle, please don't. Please don't force me to be in a place with this person. Giselle is going to do everything she can to make sure that person is there.
A
Yeah. Okay, let's go pack for the trip. So we start with Ashley and her. Her friend Corey, her stylist. And they are talking about needing warm stuff because, you know, Ashley thinks it's either Bermuda or Bahamas or Barbados. Something with a B. Okay, Just pack for something with a.
B
B. Yeah, it's none of those. It's actually Nevis, which I think I spent all of last episode calling Nevis, but. And then angel, she's. She's saying she's optimistic about having a good time in Nevis, and she just hopes that it's an opportunity for sisterhood. Lol that has never happened ever, in the history of Real Housewives of any city. There's no such thing as sisterhood. That's just a word they use every now and then when they're sick of fighting and they want to just sort of sweep everything under the rug. This is a sisterhood. And we may love. We may fight hard, but we love hard. Because that's what a sisterhood does. That's their way of saying, I'm exhausted. Do we have to fight anymore? I just want to have dessert.
A
Yeah.
B
But, yeah, she thinks that there's gonna be some sort of sisterhood, and that's not gonna happen whatsoever for you, Angel.
A
So now it's two days later, and it's 4am and it's airport gathering. Let's go. So Kierna sees Angel, and she's like, oh, so this is your first girls trip? She goes, yeah, post mommy. Post being a mommy. Which you would known if we've really been best friends for seven years or whatever, 20 years or whatever we're trying to say on this show. So let's turn.
B
That is hilarious. You're totally right. How does Kierna not know that?
A
Yeah. So then Jassy. Jazzy joins them. And we keep saying Jassy, but it's Jazzy. It's just.
B
Just.
A
It's just spelled with two S's.
B
So I don't know. Is it. I wish that was Jassy.
A
They all call her Jazz Jazzy. So she's like, hi, girls. I was given a late invite. I'm just happy to be here with a late invite. Honey, it's better to have a late invite than have to wear polyester every day because my boyfriend won't pay for my condo.
B
Am I right, Jesse? I'm. By the way, I'm still gonna call her. I'm committed to Jassy, at least through this episode, because I can't. I can't switch middle episode to Jazzy. It's like I have to do a reset. It's like Nevis. Last. Last week was Nevis. This week is Nevis. I will. I will update appropriately next week if. If necessary, but Jesse is here for the moment. Jesse's a fun girl. Jassy drives Kiana crazy, so there's no reason for me not to invite her. And Jesse has been through a lot when it comes to Mr. Darius, and we had to go through it a lot with a lot of baby mama drama. And anyway, long story short, she looks like she's gonna piss off one of the cast. Members, and I just want to laugh. So she's here.
A
So now we see some airplane footage. Time. And Ashley's like, we're about to see some kitties in St. Kitts, and all the ladies are in first class, but Jazzy has economy.
B
Yeah, I love that. And she really is. They're pulling out all the.
A
Just not working today. I'm sorry, what'd you say?
B
No, she's so excited just to be there that she doesn't even mind that she's, like, in a middle seat in, like, row, like, 500Z, and she's like, honey, me sitting in the back. In economy, it was okay, because at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing, quite literally. I've got no perks back here. No amenities. I had to pay $50 for a Biscoff cookie, but either way, the champagne's gonna taste just as good in the back as it does in the front. I just have to pay a lot of money for it. So happy.
A
And now we've arrived in St. Kitts. They've tried to pull out all the stops to piss off Jazzy, and it did not work. So let's keep trying, guys. So now they get in another sprinter van, and Giselle explains Nevis to us, and they have to land, Then they have to take a boat. And so she loves going from one island to another island, because that's called living. God.
B
I like that she tries to put a spin on it. That's. I don't think that's really called living. That's just called inconvenience. But either way, then they're, like, sitting there. They're all in their van because they get in the. They pile in the van first because they're all in first class, and they have to sit and wait for Jassy to come off the plane. And she is embedded deep, deep, deep in that plane, and they. She. They're waiting so long for her that they are then convinced that she's just somehow disappeared off the plane. Like, she's like. She got flight planned. Like, she's just gone. And she's like. Like, she and Stacey's like. But the cleaning crew went in. The cleaning crew's gone in already. There's no one left. Which also amuses me, because do they know that, like, they send the cleaning crew in while people are deplaning? Like, you know, you're always going out of the plane, and the cleaning crew's already in there, but they. I guess they're so used to flying maybe first class that they don't even realize what it's like for the rest of people to. To get off of a plane. So they're like, but she's gone. She must have fallen out the plane. Someone should look in the ocean for her. Is she alive? She may have died by now.
A
The cleaning crew is there. I love when the cleaning crew comes on the plane and gives you dirty looks, like you're in their way. Like, I'm just trying to deplane, sir. And like, I guess I'll just wait here for you to pass.
B
I would be mad at us, too. We're slobs.
A
Well, like, I just have any other.
B
The way the plane looks. But the plane is such a mess when we all get off of it, especially. Honestly, the most hilarious thing is in business class. And first, the way people just fling their blankets all over the place. It's like a. Like, there was like, a pillow fight up there every single time you get out of walk through there. Like, what the hell?
A
I would.
B
If I were a cleaning crew, I'd be mad at every single one of us. I mean, I'm mad at all of us. I'm not even on the cleaning crew. I just look around and people are disgusting at all times, including myself. Let's be honest.
A
Yeah, people are really gross. And people love boogers. It's bad. So they're trying to figure out what happened to poor Jazzy. And Kieran is like, international. Jazzy, where are you? Did they put you in the back of the plane? So then we see 1:24, 1:35, 1:46pm and finally Jazzy comes down. She's like, hi, everybody. Hi. It's me, Jazzy.
B
That is wild that it took 20 minutes for her to come out from the back of that plane. Like, that's. I am really confused about that. So they. Now they have to. They take this, like, van, and it brings them over to, like, the customs house. They have to clear customs in this, like, it's like a yacht lounge before they get on their yacht to go to Nevis. So they're all gathered around, and Wendy's asking what they're gonna be doing today. And Giselle's like, well, we're going to get our yacht, and then we're going to go over to where we can be staying at the Four Seasons, and we'll get our rooms. It'll be great. Great. Well, does anyone have any goals about anything that they would like to achieve during this trip? So angel says that she has a goal, and her goal is to Know everyone better. And for everyone to know her better on maybe a little bit of a different level, the sort of level that you get when your husband's been a starter for 10 years.
A
Well, I've reached out to angel to give her the warm welcome that I did not receive. And I've received kind of a lukewarm reception. And I know that she's very close with Kay, but I'm hopefully that in Nevis, she will have the opportunity to get to know her outside of Kay. Have you seen that clip of Stacy on qvc? It's so funny, so good.
B
No, tell me about it.
A
It's been going around online. It's her selling something on qvc. She's selling a blue sweater with a camel on it. Okay. And she's like, well, everybody, this is royal blue. So let's start with that royal blue. And as you'll notice, it's a camel on it. Now, this is for Christmas, because, you know. You know how everybody arrived to see baby Jesus. They were on a camel. They came on camels to see him. As you can see here, royal blue. Red. Because red is the color that Jesus loved more than any other. A camel with a beautiful sweater. Just to see baby Jesus. You know, it's just the bullshit that they do on qvc. But Stacy is so good at it, and you can see that her whole Housewives career is already just her QVC host voice.
B
It's. Stacy has been such such a great find. You know, we loved her last year, and it feels like she's really blossoming this season. And I also get the sense that people are kind of paying attention to Stacy more now. I think that people. I think, like Stacy last season, but it seems like people now are really kind of seeing the potential that she has to be, like, kind of a great housewife. And last night on Watch what Happens Live, apparently everyone was buzzing on Twitter about this, because Andy told Stacy, I find you endlessly entertaining. So everyone's like, oh, my God, she got the Andy seal of approval. She'll be with us for years and years. Which is true. And also, by the way, I'm like, that, too. I'm very happy about that, because I think Stacy is. She has that. She has a. A great combination. Someone on another. Another person on Twitter. I'm, like, doing the Twitter report today was like, Stacy has that perfect mixture of being sort of delusional, but also, like, things just for, like, roll. Like, narcissist and, like, things roll off her head. Like, you know, like, she just, like, like, she kind of takes it on the chin but keeps on going. She doesn't get, like, crazy about it. Like, she kind of has what it takes to be a perfect housewife.
A
Yeah, she's very unbothered, for sure. Well, I want to acknowledge that. We know it's very difficult the first trip that you take without your children. So we're here if you want to lean in. Okay, Angel. So they all cheers to angel missing her little babies.
B
Yeah. And then the. The. The lounge rep comes up and is like, ladies, I already have you processed through immigration, but we do have a problem with Ms. Massie. The Customs officer said that you're not permitted to use camouflage on the suitcases and also that they do not care if your husband started in the NFL for 10 seasons. When we see that this is on your passport application. Oh, oh. So apparently, this is, like, you're not.
A
Going to have on your passport that your husband was a starter for 10 years. So could you have this?
B
But can I wear camouflage if my husband was a starter? No, no, no. That's against the law. You cannot wear camouflage. Here.
A
I was like, you brought camouflage? And then we see on the screen, we see an email from production that says, in Nevis, it is illegal for anyone, including children, to wear camouflage.
B
Okay.
A
We don't want other people or bushes. That's very scary.
B
You're not allowed to blend in. So luckily, Tia has a lot of space in her bag. So they basically put. They put Angel's bag in Tia's bag, and Tia's like, ooh, look at this. I mean, I'm acquiring things as I go along. I've just acquired a whole backpack.
A
Oh, here.
B
Find us keepers.
A
They're like, why do you have an empty suitcase in the first place? It wasn't empty, but I'm thankful it was partially empty because my friend would have gone to jail with a camouflage bag. That is how you go on vacation. You bring a half empty bag so you can shop. Duh. Those housewives.
B
Yeah, exactly. So then Kierna is enjoying the snacks, and she's like, the malls. The balls are really good. I need some balls. Anyone? Like, some big malls. And then they. They start talking about balls. And Stacy's like, I don't typically eat balls. It's not my thing. Wendy's like, stacy, do you suck balls? Oh, as in the food? As in dick. Oh, my God, Wendy, I don't know that I've even had that encounter just yet. I mean, I'd rather just talk about camels wearing sweaters.
A
Is that why you got divorced? Ah. And they're like, probably. Ha ha, ha, ha. And Tia's like, well, hopefully I don't strike you as a ball sucker either. But the thing is, I'm surprising. I'm layered. I reserve the right to suck a ball or two.
B
So. And I like that. Stacy goes, wendy, how dare you ask me about balls. You're an academic. Was. So then, now they're going. Now they get on their boat and everything, and they're on this, like, 15 minute yacht, and they're getting on board, and then they all pop. They have some more champagne, and Ashley's like, well, I will say it's really nice that we're all here. And, you know, last time we were at Kay's house, and things got a little tense with some of us. So it's nice that, like, we're able to sit here and enjoy some bubbly, which I always like that. Like, it was tense last time. So it's nice that we can have fun now, which is always a preamble to let's make it tense like it was last time.
A
Yeah. And Wendy, in case you guys didn't remember, turned 40 last year. So let's have another party for Wendy being 40. And then Jazz, you know, everybody's talking about how amazing it's gonna come, how amazing it's gonna be, and Giselle cannot have this, so da na na na.
B
Na na na na na.
A
So Jazzy's like, well, we've got a couple of beautiful women here, new, and so welcome the newbies. Let's show everybody a good time. And Giselle's like, well, that may or may not have wanted you to come. So Jazzy heard Jessica.
B
I heard that, yeah.
A
She's like, I've heard.
B
Who didn't want Jassy to come on the boat, didn't want her to come on this trip. So basically, Angel's like, wait, who didn't want you to come? Me. Is it me? He's like, well, I'll speak on it. After the Preakness, I had a little lunch with Jesse, and Jesse's like, yes, it was a great lunch. I was so happy to be have lunch on television. Oh, my God. Right after counseling. We're in counseling, still got. It's working out great. And we see this flashback to this lunch, and basically, I think it essentially comes out that angel wanted. Giselle says that angel wanted Shareese to come instead, right?
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Yes.
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Basically.
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She's like, well, I asked her if she was available to come on the trip, and she said, yes. And I said, good, because some girls did not want. Okay, Angel. For me to invite you. And everyone's like, some people said, bring Shareese instead. That's what you said, Angel. And she's like, no, I didn't. Just because, I mean, I didn't know you at the time. She's, wait, so do you know Shareese? And she's like, yeah, I do know Shareese. I've known her for a while. Okay. And she knows my husband, who's been.
B
A starter for 10. Yeah, we're Wags. Starters. Starters, starters. We see a flashback to the second Bloom ball where Charisse and Angel say hello and everything. So Stacy's like, well, why would you say that? Well, I'm gonna be honest. I don't remember saying, do not bring Jazzy. But, you know, if I did, Giselle didn't listen anyway, so.
A
And by the way, this is a lie. That's not what angel said. Angel just said, bring Charisse.
B
That's it. Yeah.
A
So Jazzy's like, well, was there a certain energy that you didn't like? I mean, what made you say that? And Angel's like, like, yeah, I don't remember saying that. Well, because of the comment. I was like, maybe this is some wax stuff before. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Are we gonna fight? We need to figure out what's going on now.
B
So then now that the boat starts to go, and Giselle's like, we need to figure out what's going on. So Kieran says, the thing is between, like, yes, you know, I. Like, I'm not phony, and, like, I don't like to be fake. So for that reason, like, I'm not gonna be vague. And Jaz is like, well, if you're not phone, you're fake, then say what you said about Wendy. And he was like, well, what did I say about Wendy? When he's like, oh, was it recently, or was it a while ago? And Jesse goes, it was like, six months ago. And Wendy's like, oh, so she was talking about me six months ago?
A
Wow.
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Wow, wow. Yeah, it wasn't recent. It was before. I was in counseling with Darius.
A
Now it's very clear that the whole time, Kiana was just deflecting. You're the bad friend. And you talked behind my back. And I've not talked behind you about you behind your back to any of these women. Any of these women. Okay, well, what did Kate actually say about Wendy? Would you care to reveal that Jazzy and Jazzy's like, I'll be sipping my drink. But, you know, it's not both. Jazzy, if you're gonna bring it up, say what she said for sake. This is the most awkward audition. Everyone is failing. You're all fired. You're all fired.
B
Don't protect Kierna. Yeah. So Giselle's like, well, in all transparency. Yeah. Kay and Wendy, y' all were in a good space. Well, I'm very confused, but, you know, I'm the fake and phony one now, that. That's why I don't understand. And Jassy's like, well, I didn't say she called you fake and phony, but there were some things to say she had to say. So.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Which, by the way, this is. Jassy's doing a very good job, I think, of deflecting off of the. She's actually protecting angel in a weird way, because angel should be in the hot seat. And now she's just pivoted into being, like, an anti Kierna moment.
A
Yes. So Kieran is like, you lost me there. So Ashley's trying to figure it out. She just laughs. She's like, I don't think anyone's getting this. I don't think anyone's getting, oh, the audition's still going. And now she's like, are you high? Karen is like, jazzy, you're full of shit, but go ahead. And you're full of shit. And you're mad about your conversation with Stacy. And she's like, I'm full of shit because I called you out. Like, you called me out for telling you about the conversation.
B
Guys, you need to fill in the blanks for some of us.
A
Some of us have.
B
Are busy doing other interesting things, like smuggling in a camouflage backpack.
A
I'm sick of this fighting that I've started. So I would like Wendy to say her last piece, and then we are done with this. For me to start another fight.
B
Well, I just want to say, k, you know, based on the timeline that Jassy has given at the time, that we had no issue. And Kenner's like, we did have an issue, actually. It's like, okay, well, if I hear that you talk to people, I'll be very, very, very hurt. She goes, well, you should be. So now, like, Karen, I was, like, denying that she said anything, but now she's saying, no, but we did have an issue. But I didn't say anything, but we had an issue.
A
Well, I think what hurts me the most is that instead of bringing this issue directly to me, the way of wend would. She has decided to tell everyone else in the group. We don't even know what the problem is. Wendy, can we just stop with this? This is the worst fight ever.
B
So.
A
But you know what? That's because you try to take somebody and teach him things. And Wendy's like, wait, are you we. Are you talking about Jassy? And she's like, no, she's not even here. I don't even know Jassy. And Jassy's like, oh, ho's mad. But I'm here. I'm here, okay? I'm here. Well, who's the hoe? You're the hoe. Weren't you the side chick? She had never been the side chick. Always been the fiance. Something you'll never be. What did she say? Side chick? What is this? What is the size of this?
B
Is there. Is there. So there's a chicken and then there's a chick, but the chick is off to the side. I mean, what's going on here? I'm so confused. Why are we talking about so many birds? I don't even know what language they're speaking.
A
So she's like, never be. I wouldn't want that shit. And Giselle's like, okay, we're taking a time out. So, angel, are you good with Jazzy? Would you like to fight with Jazzy now? She's like, okay, okay, I'll say something. Well, can she finish? And Wendy's like, no, no, because this is important. This is important. She's also like, okay, your next audition round will have to hold, please. Wendy's like, because me and Stacey talked about it. Now, we noticed when Jazzy came into Preakness, the Angel, you started talking about how your husband was a starter for 10 years as soon as Jazzy walked in the room. That was almost like a dig.
B
So the Angel's like, well, if there's a commitment to misunderstanding me, I understand that. No, it's not. Because if we wanted to, I wouldn't have brought it to you. She goes, okay, let me just this. She asked me about my husband. And we see a flashback where Jassy never asked that. Angel asked Jassy, what position does your husband play? And Jassy said, he's a linebacker. And then Angel's like, my husband does 10 years. 10 year starters. And I so explained to her it was a 10 year starter, which I still don't even know what that means, but my husband said, it's a good thing. So congratulations to your. To your Husband starting something, whatever that may be.
A
Well, the reason the timing happened is because she walked into the room, and so, you know, and. And so any other place to talk? Angel's trying to explain, like, well, I saw her, so I introduced her to myself with things. Or I introduced her. I introduced myself to her with things that we had in common. You know, she's trying to explain basic logic to people, but they don't really get it. And she's like. So Wendy's like, did you know Jazzy before she walked in the room? And she says, well, I knew that she was a wag, but that's it. So the producer asks her, is Jazzy the wag that you consider? Is she a wag of a bench warmer, basically? And angel laughs. And now she gets snotty. She's like, well, there are absolutely differing degrees of NFL players, but every player makes a difference on the team.
B
Yeah, I. But I thought that Jassy said that Darius was a starter. I mean, whatever. He's got a Super bowl ring. So that. Hey. So Stacy's like, well, I have to say this, angel, do you have it in your heart to have relationships with other people that may not enjoy k someone like me? And Jassy's like, no, Darius, like, I don't know. What. Oh, he's a linebacker.
A
Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
B
What did I say?
A
Starting?
B
I said, well, linebacker, line starter has nothing to do with your position. I mean, like, you can be a starting linebacker. Starter is basically like, are you on the field when. When the game starts, essentially.
A
And I'm saying, I hate all this sports talk. Just keep it off my. I just realized, I started saying as.
B
I'm saying, well, starter is different. I was like, oh, Ronnie, did you.
A
See me glaze over? My eyes glazed over like a Christmas ham, girl. I can't with this, keep it off my shelf.
B
I was like, ronnie just did as much sports exposure as he wants for the week, which is looking up linebacker.
A
I thought I had something really good there. I was like, excuse me, he's a linebacker, not a starter.
B
I'm like, as someone who has like a 1 in 7 losing score in fantasy football, let me tell you something about this.
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Date: October 27, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode Recap: Recapping Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode 4 “Tropic Like It’s Hot”
In this lively and hilarious episode, Ben and Ronnie recap a mayhem-filled installment of the Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP), Season 10 Episode 4, highlighting the Bravo tradition of midseason cast “auditions” and the group’s chaotic road to the Preakness Stakes and their first group trip to Nevis. The hosts dissect the season’s “try-hard” energy, the emergence of new and returning cast members (especially Angel, Jassy/Jazzy, Tia, and Kierna/Karen), and serve up shade, biting commentary, and signature impressions of the ladies’ high-stakes social maneuvering.
The main focus: How each cast member is trying to solidify or keep their spot, from manufactured drama to the pettiest of pot-stirring, with especially memorable moments around Instagram filters, “starter” football husbands, and truly bizarre social one-upmanship.
[Preakness sequence starts ~16:06]
“That is the least subtle I’ve ever seen you try to be as far as trying to get me to be messy, but I’ll do it anyway.” – Ronnie as Giselle, mocking Wendy, [21:56]
Jassy bonds with Angel over their “WAG” (Wives And Girlfriends) status; conversation devolves into competitive bragging about football husbands’ status.
Flexing becomes a group sport: Wendy and the others mock Angel for “bragging” while noting her own “degree” flexes.
Jassy’s weaponized condescension: “I know you must be going through a lot with Greg. With what? With him not being a football player…My heart goes out to you.” (43:12–43:32)
**Battle escalates to personal digs about marriages, money, and side chick rumors—classic Housewives escalation with hosts cackling at the “beautifully condescending” lines.
Ben and Ronnie revel in the absurdity, actively rooting for the most try-hard and chaotic among the cast. They crown Tia as a standout, debate the merits of keeping certain personalities on the fringe, and praise Stacy’s “unbothered” QVC-trained confidence (see discussion of her “camel Christmas sweater” sales pitch at [53:16]). The episode ends mid-trip, with the tension setting up an “audition from hell” in Nevis (to be continued in Part 2).
For more RHOP, group trip mayhem, and disastrous Bravo “auditions,” listen to Part 2!