#3056 RHOSLC S607 Part 1: Below Deck Thrown Under

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3056 Recap – RHOSLC S607 Part 1: Below Deck Thrown Under

Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Original Release: October 29, 2025
Episode Focus: The long-anticipated Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) / Below Deck crossover, featuring the Housewives embarking on a luxury yacht adventure with classic Bravo chaos—vegan themes, elaborate costumes, and plenty of accusations about leaked secrets.

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OVERVIEW

Ben and Ronnie, as always, bring their signature mixture of sharp wit and affectionate ribbing as they unpack part one of RHOSLC’s Below Deck crossover. This episode sees the Salt Lake City cast setting sail while engaging in their trademark blend of bickering, secret-leaking accusations, emotional oversharing, and some highly questionable flirtation with yacht staff. Fans get both a send-up of Bravo’s crossover attempts (and their scheduling mishaps) and a thoroughly detailed exploration of ongoing cast drama, from mysterious sealed legal records to which Housewife really can’t read a room (it’s still Lisa).

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MAJOR DISCUSSION POINTS & HIGHLIGHTS

1. Below Deck Crossover: Setup and Spills

• Opening Banter & Scheduling Chaos (01:22–02:39)
  The hosts roast Bravo for awkward episode timing (“Halloween party after Halloween” – Michelle, 01:56), production headaches, and the network’s oddly persistent vegan theme week.

  • Memorable Quote:

    "Whoever that person is on the production team, we see you and we know you did a good job. This is not your fault. Okay? This is not your fault. Stop hurting yourself." – Ronnie (02:39)

• Meet the Crew and Initial Impressions (03:00–06:12)
  The guys riff on the novelty of Housewives meeting Below Deck staff, especially the “male stew with the back comb-over”—a centerpiece for jokes (03:17–03:55). Ronnie relishes the “spoof” quality.

  • Quote:

    “This show's so unserious.” – Ronnie (03:00)

• Yacht Boarding and Room Assignments (09:12–16:44)
  There’s much banter about which Housewives will room together, with Heather and Whitney’s sisterhood getting special attention, while Bronwyn and Brittany are stuck as reluctant roommates, portending further comedy and drama.

2. Bronwyn’s Alleged Scandals – Secrecy, Speculation, and Shifting Stories

• Bronwyn’s Arrival and Fashion (23:35–27:34)
  Bronwyn pulls a classic Bravo entrance, arriving in an inflatable “Benny the Cab” costume already seen on her Instagram. The panel debates the etiquette of recycling novelty looks and gets the first whiffs of Bronwyn’s “sealed legal issues.”

• Lunch Table Confrontation: The ‘Sealed Record’ Mystery (31:29–53:24)
  The Housewives prod Bronwyn about newly emerged reports of fraud, theft, and possible identity shenanigans in her past.

  • Bronwyn alternately denies and half-admits to sins-of-youth (eviction, “grand piano, not grand theft” – 32:00), while steering suspicion toward Lisa as the possible leak to the press (45:06–47:26).

  • The hosts sharply point out holes in her shifting story ("She’s putting up a straw man" – Ronnie, 44:03).

  • Notable Quotes:

    “Have I been part of a traveling circus? I can’t say. I cannot say that for sure. Okay, but that’s sealed. It’s sealed.” – Michelle (47:00)
    “I think Bronwyn is completely full of shit. And I've always thought Bronwyn is completely full of shit. I think she lies and she gets caught in her lies all the time on this show. But... I do like Bronwyn. She's really good on the show... I have to tip my inflatable hat to you. Well done." – Ronnie (37:42)

• The Lisa Defense: Is She the Leak?
  Panel debates whether Lisa is the source of all negative press, critiquing both Bronwyn’s (and Heather’s) campaign to pin everything on her and Lisa’s “failures to be chill” in response (39:34).

  • The cyclical nature of Bravo’s “who leaked it?” storylines is called out, as well as the irony of all the Housewives using bloggers/sources (60:13–61:42).

3. Classic Housewife Banter and Physical Comedy

• Yacht Antics: Vomit & Flirtation (55:14–57:29)
  Angie’s seasickness becomes a set piece, with every messy detail on display. Brittany’s attempts at romance with literally any male crew member (especially Joao and “Mike the Hair”) are lampooned for their hilariously tone-deaf persistence.

  • Quote: “Are you really this unable to pick up on social cues? Social, sexual cues? Ma'am, please back away… we're barking up the wrong hairy tree.” – Ronnie (14:11, 14:20)

• Running Gags: The Cucumber Mystery & Sisterhood Speeches (30:08–41:53)
  A random cucumber found in a Housewife’s luggage sparks elaborate speculation (“What is this? What is this?” – 30:23), and there's a sendup of Heather’s earnest but forced sisterhood metaphors, both mercilessly mocked by the hosts.

4. Meta-Commentary and Fan Service

• The hosts continually break the fourth wall:

  • Pointing out audience gullibility to the show’s manufactured cliffhangers (22:31)

  • Highlighting the repetition of “digging up dirt” as a Bravo narrative staple across franchises (60:13–61:42)

  • Offering legal “pop-up video” insights from their own Discord community (36:07)

  • Quote:

    “People have time on their hands, and they're dedicated... it doesn't have to be a cast member to do it. If it's out there, it's out there.” – Michelle (48:09)

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NOTABLE QUOTES WITH CONTEXT & TIMESTAMPS

• On Bravo production mishaps
  “This is not your fault. Okay? This is not your fault. Stop hurting yourself.” – Ronnie (02:39)

• Introducing the “male stew”
  “He’s got a back comb over… really super tweezed eyebrows. I cannot wait to find out more about this person.” – Ronnie (03:17)

• Bronwyn on her legal issues
  “No, it’s not grand theft? No. No, it’s not true. No. I bought a grand piano, but I did not have grand theft.” – Bronwyn (32:00)

• On Housewives room pairings
  “Neither one of them really wins with this pairing... You’ve got Brittany over there talking about men the whole time and then you’ve got Bronwyn on the other side trying to blow up her clothes like inflating them.” – Ronnie (16:01)

• Heather, on her fantasy survival kit for a deserted island with Captain Jason:
  “A bikini and condoms. I’m just kidding. Of course. It’d be a copy of all three of my best selling books.” – Heather (10:52)

• On Lisa’s inability to be chill:
  “She just can’t do the stoic thing and let the other person lose their shit. Like, she just falls into every single trap… it’s like she sees the carrot in the middle. The far. She goes, oh, look, it’s a carrot for me to snack on. And then she’s in a net, you know, Every single time.” – Michelle (39:34)

• On the Housewife “seals”
  “Do I know how to throw a fish at a seal? Yes. Have I been part of a traveling circus? I can't say.” – Michelle (47:00)

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IMPORTANT SEGMENT TIMESTAMPS

• [01:22] Crossover and Bravo scheduling discussion
• [03:00–07:00] Introduction of Below Deck crew and Housewives’ arrival
• [09:12–16:44] Yacht boarding, room assignments, relationship setups
• [23:35–27:34] Bronwyn’s entrance and fashion, first murmurs of scandal
• [31:29–53:24] Lunch: confrontation over Bronwyn’s sealed case, accusations of leaking
• [54:00–57:29] Swimming/rafting antics, Angie’s seasickness
• [60:13–62:14] Meta-commentary on “leak” plot device/reality in Bravo universe
• [66:12–68:59] Heather & Whitney plot, recruiting Meredith to confront Lisa

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TONE & STYLE

In keeping with Ben and Ronnie’s playful, gossipy style, the summary is full of banter, sarcastic asides, and a mix of deep fandom and open mockery. The commentary is equal parts pop-culture riff, reality TV insight, and subversive fourth-wall breaking.

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CONCLUSION & TEASE FOR PART 2

The episode ends with the “bad weather” (Heather & Whitney) cabal plotting to set up Lisa for group confrontation, wanting Meredith to “take the fall,” and more chaos promised in part two. Throughout, the hosts remain gleefully skeptical of every Housewife’s claims—and the authenticity of production “mysteries”—but celebrate every moment of absurdity, making it a perfect primer for Bravo obsessives tuning in or skipping ahead.

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To hear how the confrontation with Lisa plays out, and to find out if anyone ever learns the cucumber’s fate, stay tuned—for part two of the recap!

Transcript

[Michelle Collins]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Ye Olde Bluvs. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, you handsome man. How are you doing?

[Michelle Collins]

I'm great, thanks. How are you doing?

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Michelle Collins]

Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Come on. You ask questions, we talk about Bravo news. It's a good time, so join us for that. But today, it's the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, the big Below Deck down under episode.

[Michelle Collins]

Yes, it's the big Below Deck down under crossover, timed specifically during a different below deck season. And even though it's Below Deck down under, they're in the Caribbean. So lots of things are spooky and strange this holiday week.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's going crazy. And also they are really veganing it up over on Bravo this week because we had Below Deck and then we're going to have a wife swap later that's vegan. So it's vegan week on Bravo as well. So I hope that no one's eating meat or meat products.

[Michelle Collins]

That's right. And it looks like next week on Salt Lake City, the Salt Lake City down under crossover. It looks like they're having some sort of like, Halloween party, which is also wonderfully timed to come out after Halloween. So I gotta say, they really coordinated this one.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, four guys over there because, you know, they worked hard to get that on Halloween, you know, and they just timed it wrong. It's like, come on, man.

[Michelle Collins]

Something went wrong. They decided. They all, they just were like, you know what? We're gonna delay the season a week. And that poor coordinator that had to make all these calls to make sure the schedule was right and everything was perfect, all their work just went out the window. So whoever, that, whoever that person is on the production team, we see you and we know you did a good Job.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. This is not your fault. Okay? This is not your fault. Stop hurting yourself. So we open with a very down under shot, which is. Yeah, the water, you know, they love some underwater shots on there. And like, look how scary it is. Look how scary. We even see a shark. A shark swimming by. This show's so unserious.

[Michelle Collins]

I love it. I know this. It's so ridiculous. Also, this is a very exciting episode because there are a lot of people who watch Housewives who do not watch Below Deck whatsoever. So this is for them, I think, actually their first taste at what a Below Deck episode might be like. So welcome to the other half of Bravo.

[Ronnie Karam]

And it actually looks like a spoof of Below Deck, which I really liked. Like there's a deckhand or. No, a stew, a male stew this time, which I think it's. It's not our first time, but it's been a long time since we've had a male stew and. Well, I guess not that long, Fraser, but you know what I mean. And he has some hair on him. He's got some hair on him. That raises some questions. He's got a back comb over. Like he's trying to hide his back bald spot. So he's combing it over from the back to the front in sort of a bouffant. And then he. He's got like really super tweezed eyebrows. I'm. I cannot wait to find out more about this person.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, I'd love to know what's. What the story is behind that hair and how like that feels like somehow a luxury experience for guests to see that hair. Like this is supposed to be a five star luxury experience. Then you see that hair and you're like, is it or am I just at the Jersey Shore?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And then the biggest surprise of the. Of that season is ruined because we find out who the crew is. And we've got Daisy and we've got Ben. Ben back from the. Back from the ether. It's Ben coming back to the banner's back.

[Michelle Collins]

And then there's Joao. Joao who came in fresh from Zimbabwe. Back in Zim, I was spending my time enjoying some relaxation, but I'm now back on Below Deck Down Under.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just here to make sure women don't get ahead.

[Michelle Collins]

Just here to say the C word a few times and then moving along. And then we also have Alicia, who was the sous chef last season. Alicia is like the Daisy of Downton Abbey. She sort of putters around. She doesn't really know what she's doing, but it's nice that they put her back in there. I'm sure Ben's gonna love her.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love her. And I knew I recognized her, but I didn't know from where. And it's because she's not a sous chef this time. This time she is a. A steal, and so I didn't recognize her.

[Michelle Collins]

She is sous chef. Yeah, she's still a sous chef.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, I thought she was a stew now because she's in a regular uniform and everything.

[Michelle Collins]

At first I thought it was actually Margot from Down under, like, two seasons ago, but it wasn't. It was just Alicia. Alicia had a torrid romance with a passionate and fiery and actually violent Greek man last season.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then we was violent towards cabinets. That's for sure. Those cabinets took a beating.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, they. There's a dent down there. So there's a lot of returning faces on this charter that, you know, was very exciting to see. But actually, for as much as this was a. A Real Housewives Below Deck crossover, it was, by and large, a Real Housewives episode. I think the only difference is that unlike other vacation episodes, they go on this time. Some of the staff was mic'd up and you. You could. You heard some. Some fleeting comments, but it really wasn't very much like a Below Deck episode. Right?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. And we'll see the other side when we watch Below Deck. Isn't that the fun of it? I hope so. So we open with a shot of the. Of the sea, and it looks really scary. They're making it like a scary movie. And then we just hear an echo as Mary saying, are you okay? Are. Are. Are. Are. Are you okay? And Daisy. Paging Dr. Jason. Captain Jason, get up here. Dr. Jason. Jason, come to the main saloon. Dr. Captain Jason. And then we hear echoes of Lisa crying. Good night, baby, you are loved. Good night, baby, you are loved. A robotic voice Jared. You are loved. On repeat, before the voice distorts. You are loved.

[Michelle Collins]

You are loved. Baby, you are loved.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mommy, why don't you ever call me? And then we see a stuffed unicorn floating by in the water. Someone's gonna die tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, it's like the white lotus. It's just the white low point. I don't know. So now everyone's arriving at the airport in. In Utah. So we're gonna flash. We're gonna flash back a few days, and they're all arriving in Salt Lake City. And Mary struggling with her bags. And Whitney. I just got a text from Bronwyn. It says, hi. Sorry for the late notice. I'm not going to make my flight. Have a safe trip. I'm coming. Still just going to meet you guys in Canute. Canoe. Can, can, can. Can I start over? It's Canawan Whitney Canoe to get the boat. We're taking a canoe on vacation. I'm confused.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm not surprised that Bronman is coming late. I'd be surprised if she comes at all. Because what I've seen in the headlines is serious. She's damned if she does, and she that she's damned if she doesn't. Because if she does, then we're all going to talk about it, and if she doesn't, we're all going to talk about it. Hold for shrug.

[Michelle Collins]

If you damn, damn if you do and damn if you don't. Is there a damn? Is there a damn do we. Are we in a resident as a yacht in a reservoir? I'm confused.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Mary comes, they're all cheering, and then Lisa and Meredith make it last second, and it's time to go on the plane. Brittany, who has learned nothing, is recording herself and Heather on her phone. And then they land, and Heather's like, it took us 15 hours to get here, but we finally arrived in Kaniwan because we're women. Women who believe in each other. Women who believe in soaring over clouds through all obstacles.

[Michelle Collins]

And then everyone's getting into a van, and Lisa's like, isn't this where all the billionaires come? Like, Ben, like my good friend Ben and Blake. Where are they? Hi, Ben. Hi, Blake. Lisa, that's a pineapple tree. Oh, no, I'm pretty sure that's Ben Affleck. Yeah, we're friends.

[Ronnie Karam]

You guys. Look at what we're about to get on right now. And we see the yacht, and Brittany's like, oh, my God, I hope there's men on that ship. Does anybody think there's going to be single men on that ship? Hold on. I brought a picture of my daughter to put under the seat and ignore while we're here.

[Michelle Collins]

If you want to drive off with it, that's fine. So then they get on to the. They get to the yacht, and there's Captain Jason. He's like, hi, Heather. Hi, Whitney. And they give a big hug, and Heather says, I met Captain Jason when I was on a trip in Australia with Whitney, having a sisterhood, and we hung out for a week, and I told him every single story about how Mormonism traumatized me. And by the end of it, he said, okay, you can leave now. And I Said I won't leave because we're sisters. And we are ride or die till the end, Captain Jason. And now comes the part where we ride, ride on your yacht.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see a month earlier, Heather and Jason on the phone. She's like, I would love to take the girls on your yacht. We're women. Women who love experiences and sisterhood. You can be our captain. He's like, well, that's normally how it works on my boat. So you trying to trap me at sea, you little minx? I am. I'm gonna trap you at sea. Maritime law, when it applies, you know, you know how it goes.

[Michelle Collins]

Well, that would be amazing. We really have to bring our A game for you girls. So what that means is tonight that when you come in, when you come onto our yacht, When I crush this yacht, it'll be into a fabulous location. Oh, that sounds wonderful, Captain Jason. I love a luxury crash.

[Ronnie Karam]

So the producer asks her what she would bring if she was stuck on an island with Captain Jason. And she's like, a bikini and condoms.

[Michelle Collins]

I'm just kidding. Of course. It'd be a copy of all three of my best selling books.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm an author, and by condoms, I mean lots of pages of my novels to wrap around his penis.

[Michelle Collins]

I would bring a picture of my daughters to remind me that they're out of my fucking house already. Oh, God. Sisterhood.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lisa's like, hi there. I'm probably going to be your lowest maintenance guest.

[Michelle Collins]

Everyone's got to be on their best behavior, girls. And so Angie's saying. Angie's like saying hello to every single one. She's like, giving them their own little, like, picnic baskets full of, like, a Greek spread that she's made. Here's your tzatziki. Here are your domas. Here is your spanakopada. It is great to meet you all. I am the best. I am Angie. And so they're like, okay, come on, hurry up, Angie. Come on. We want to get on the boat.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's just say you will never work so hard for your money in your life, lady. Thank you. We're going to get well acquainted. All right. This is Daisy. We're going to cruise around for an hour, get some spots, and hopefully we'll get you wet, then we'll get you in the water. They're like, oh, my God, he's going to get us wet. Joao's like, other way around, Captain.

[Michelle Collins]

Back in zim, that's a popular expression. So then Lisa says, any chance I got to go. I get onto A yacht. I'm like, yes, pick me. I'm in. But this will be, like, so nice for Angie. She's normally in, like, an rv, but Angie's like, I have never been on a yacht in my life. The closest I got was when I went to Greece and got into a life size replica of Jason and the Argonauts.

[Ronnie Karam]

The.

[Michelle Collins]

But I see Lisa and my good energy goes, womp, womp, womp, womp, womp. And I'm planning on keeping my distance, okay? So I can. Or I could stand next to her and make my ankles look smaller. Ha ha, ha ha. Greek shade. Greek shade.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now they go to the bar and they're getting cocktails and stuff. And Daisy's like, we've got champagne and we've got a little margarita shot as well. After this, I'm only gonna do my tequila, though, okay? So you know what? We need to make sure that you have my tequila. You've heard of it, right, Veda? No, I haven't heard of that. It's mine. You've heard of it, right, Vida? Everybody drinks that. The first lady. The first lady of Rome. Everybody. Everybody loves it. Blake Lively, Blake Shelton, Blake Masters, Tim, Blake Nelson.

[Michelle Collins]

Daisy gives her this look like, are you kidding me? Listen, I drink every. I take a taste of every single bottle of alcohol that comes onto the spot. And I can tell you right now, we've never even heard Vita tequila. Lady Daisy just has this. She just is giving her this look like you're trying it. We do not have Vita tequila on this yacht. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Joao is mad because there's so many bags. Of course. And now Mike now is the hair. Mike. Mike, the hair comes up, helmet. And he brings some drinks and he's made a margarita shot. And she's like, a margarita shot. Margarita shot. That's margarita shot. It's a shawl a shot. Yeah, a shawl a shot. I love your accent. I love it. You have such a cute accent. This guy is clearly tweezed to the border. Like, he's just looking at her like, uh huh.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Are you really this unable to pick up on social cues? You know, social, sexual cues? Ma', Am, please back away.

[Michelle Collins]

We're barking up the wrong hairy tree. So she's.

[Ronnie Karam]

In smorgasborg.

[Michelle Collins]

I'm in a smorgasbord of heaven right now. A big old fashioned smorgasbord. There are men everywhere, and not only just men, but, like, hot ones with big muscles who love Lady Gaga. It's amazing. We love the same music. All is right with the world.

[Ronnie Karam]

I've always wanted a man I can share an eyebrow pencil with.

[Michelle Collins]

So are there only six of you? Is there another person coming? Cuz we're told there's supposed to be another person coming. Oh yes, there's another one coming. Our sister. Our long lost sister. Cuz we are women and we leave no one behind. Whether we're in the pioneer days or in the Catawan days, we are all here together. But yes, we can leave port without her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well there's six women and one hot dog coming, but she'll be here late. But if she arrives and we've taken off, how will she get to us?

[Michelle Collins]

Everyone knows that when a boat leaves port no one can ever reach it again.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll organize it. Don't worry about it. She'll swim. Hey Brittany, that's not a way to talk about your sister. You don't have to worry. We organize transport to the boat. It'll be fine. So now they get the yacht tour and Whitney and Heather are going to take the master. Of course Meredith gets the room.

[Michelle Collins]

Running gag and then Mary and Angie get a room together and then Heather winds up sticking Bronwyn and Britney together which is, I mean look, you snooze, you lose and you really do lose I guess. But wow, that's a pairing that I can't imagine is going to be fun for either of them.

[Ronnie Karam]

Neither one of them really wins with this pairing. I mean I wouldn't want to room with either one of these people. You've got Britney over there talking about men the whole time and then you've got brought one on the other side trying to blow up her clothes like inflating them.

[Michelle Collins]

Do you think this trip was how they were supposed to start the season? Because remember the whole like camping trip that they started was the, the invitation said like put your bikinis on for sun and were they was was the plan originally to do like to start off with below deck and then like the timing didn't work out so then they're like okay, let's go camping instead.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh that makes sense. Yeah but that wouldn't be cool to trick them onto a below deck yacht because they wouldn't know to pack three suitcases or whatever.

[Michelle Collins]

That's true too. And I just said that would be an interesting theory and I take that back. It's actually not an interesting theory at all.

[Ronnie Karam]

It is fascinating.

[Michelle Collins]

Literally a pretty dull theory. You think that this trip was supposed to be earlier?

[Ronnie Karam]

It's a theory and I love a theory. So Brittany's Like I have to share with Bronwyn. No, you have grit. You can do this. Listen, you're walking around with teeth the size of a child's head. You can take this. I'm sure you can stand pain. How can you even eat with those things? You're a trooper. It'll be fine. She might not even show. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin commercial.

[Michelle Collins]

So then we go to the galley where chef Ben is there with sous chef. Sous chef. Sous chef. Alicia. And she's. Or we. I never remember if her name is Alicia or Elise. Alicia or Lisa.

[Ronnie Karam]

Alicia, I think. Yeah, Alicia.

[Michelle Collins]

So they said this will be the hardest money you've ever worked for, Ben. Oh yes. I. I hope that that's reflected in the tip, to be honest. Otherwise I'm stealing all their jewelry. And then I will cry about my greatest torment in life going to boarding school.

[Ronnie Karam]

Good luck stealing all that jewelry. That's all fake or borrowed. Never steal a housewives jewelry, okay? You're never getting anywhere with that. Steal the Amex.

[Michelle Collins]

But I think they want you to steal the jewelry that like literally get that insurance money. I mean, hello. Someone of the Palm Springs airport still like hit the payday.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wendy's filing an insurance claim on this. This trip and she's not even on it.

[Michelle Collins]

So now the girls are up in the. At the top deck. They're saying bon voyage to really no one at all. And Heather's like, you guys listen to me for one second. Whitney and I actually were friends with Captain Jason. I just want to mention that again. I just really like flexing that I know one of the captains from a below deck and I just want us to all be on our best behavior. And so then Lisa goes, but where is he? Where's Captain Jason? Was he.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's driving the boat.

[Michelle Collins]

He has to come in with the logic. That's a bad sign, Lisa.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well he doesn't even know that we're totally crazy. Britney's like, I'm a sucker for the leader of his ship.

[Michelle Collins]

He'll be revived. So you're into Captain Jason, Britney? I mean, if he's into me, I'm into him. That's just how I roll. I just want a man to love me.

[Ronnie Karam]

I admire Britney's fervor to the opposite sex. Listen, I'm not the type to overtly flirt. He needs to flirt with me first. All I really like to do is follow men around and ask them important questions like how did your arms get so big? Will you Marry me. Do you want children? I've always wanted daughters.

[Michelle Collins]

Brittany saying that she's not the type to overtly flirt is hilarious. As we watch her over at Leaf flirt for the rest of the episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

With Captain with literally everything. Everything that moves. So she's like, well, I'm all for Britney having her Jack and Rose Titanic moment, but I want her to feel like the king of the world without the boat sinking.

[Michelle Collins]

Chose the wrong captain for that. So let's cut to the footage once again of him crashing his yacht into a restaurant in New Zealand.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, can we please show the destroyed dockside chilies?

[Michelle Collins]

That would be great for people who don't watch below deck. Captain Jason did crash his yacht into a dock, and it was on the news.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wait, what about Jared? Oh, we're on a 30 day break. Oh, okay. So free game then. Any of these guys take any of them? She's like, yeah, but I'd like to hang out with Captain Jason the most.

[Michelle Collins]

So I was gonna say that after. After my reading with Terrence, I decided to do the 30 day break, but then, you know, Jared showed up to help me the other day to pack, and I guess 30 days starting now. Again? What, Daughter?

[Ronnie Karam]

Now, if you're saying you want to go for Captain Jason. Oh, God. But we don't want to hear one word about Jared. And I mean it.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah. If you say Jared's name on this trip, we're going to splash you with water.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah. Jared, Jared, Jared.

[Michelle Collins]

Meredith just picks up a picture and dumps it on Brittany.

[Ronnie Karam]

The entire pitcher of water. She's like, I like this idea. Wow. This is the first time I've ever agreed with Whitney.

[Michelle Collins]

Daisy comes out from the, like the. The salon area and she's like, oh, my God, what is going on here? Been waiting two years to be able to dump that picture on Brittany.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, we told you we're gonna hold you accountable, Brittany. And we did. With a pitcher of water. So Daisy is whispering to Heather that Bronwyn is on her way. Dun, dun, dun. We see a tender coming, and Heather's like, let's go and greet our sister. I want her to feel welcome. We'll find out the details later. Okay. So they go scream Bronwyn and wave, and they're just ready to roast her, you know?

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, but I like that Heather saying that about like, we'll find out the details later. That was her way of saying, guys, let's not shoot our wad yet. We're gonna, we're gonna. Let's have a cliffhanger at dinner tonight. Let's. For right now we're gonna just do some fun and games. So Bronw.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't want us to, I don't want us to bring up Bronwyn's issues until we've all agreed to blame them on Lisa later. Okay?

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, that's actually what it is.

[Ronnie Karam]

So ham handed. I'm surprised the audience falls for this. The audience falls for this hook, line and sinker every single time. And you see Heather, you see the little tick tocks going behind her eyes, like tick, tick, tick, tick, trying to come up with something. And everybody falls for it. They're like, oh my God, it must be Lisa. When you see how they're planning this the whole time, it cracks me up. We're a gullible people as an audience.

[Michelle Collins]

We, we really are. But it's fun to be gullible sometimes. It's fun. Just go along with the story.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll still believe in, you know, I'll still go laughing them all. Why not?

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, I believe in Elsie and Heidi and Nadrina. So like I'm, I'm fine with some professional wrestling, but in, you know, lady form with gossip.

[Ronnie Karam]

So. Also, just a note to cops, it would be nice if you guys would stop trying to arrest me. Okay. He's sitting there to have his lap sat on. So you have to be a child, sit on Santa's lap. Fuck out of here. Who's the perk? He's the one asking people to sit on his lap. Sleep me alone. I'd like one holiday season to pass without a ticket.

[Michelle Collins]

So Bronwyn arrives and she's dressed like Benny the cab from Roger Rabbit. And she's like, I don't know what I'm walking into, but I am gonna dress like an old timey taxi cab for some reason. And I'm sure that these women have seen these allegations and I'm sure they've discussed it. Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh. And of course I have Todd's words reverberating in my head.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't want so much salt on this. I could have a blood pressure attack right here in the ferals.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay. No, I think, I think it was some other words that were in. I remember Todd's other words.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get off my lawn.

[Michelle Collins]

No, those words too. But like, I think there was another.

[Ronnie Karam]

Set of words that were reverberating just like chocolate milk. If you put chocolate milk in it.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh no. And here comes some muzzy words. Oh no. Muzzy words.

[Ronnie Karam]

I wish I'd never had You.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh, no. Back to Todd words.

[Ronnie Karam]

My knees hurt when it's raining outside.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh, my God. Muzzy and Todd together. Oh, no.

[Ronnie Karam]

Think about your father. Think about your father.

[Michelle Collins]

He has a position in church. Church. Church.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, Lisa, your best friend is here. Oh, my God. She always wears a costume. Wow. Oh, yeah. I've seen this look before. Yeah, I've seen it on Instagram. Whatever. Used look. Used look incoming. And then we see that she has, in fact, used this look before. We see multiple Instagram posts with her wearing an inflatable on her head.

[Michelle Collins]

I am gonna allow this because I think the fashion faux pas is, like, when you recycle a dress on the red carpet. I think inflatable, you're gonna try to get as much use that. Like, I think you're allowed to get, like, four or five uses out of it. Like, it's okay. I'm going to allow the Benny the Cab costume.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Lisa is talking to Angie. What'd you say?

[Michelle Collins]

Sound like Michelle Lolly approved it. This is Michelle Lally, and I approve this message.

[Ronnie Karam]

It will be okay. I will accept your outbid.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay, so Lisa's talking to Angie, and Lisa's like, for me, I just feel like she's got, like, a lot going on on her plate right now, especially after trying to retaliate against me. So, yeah, I'm going to just, like, I'm totally in a good place with her right now. But, like, if you want to, like, pick up this bone that I'm putting down and talk about how she has all these headlines against her, like, you should do that. It'll be totally cool. You know?

[Ronnie Karam]

What do you know? Why are you saying that? Why are you saying that? Brittany's like, I know stuff. You know stuff. We all know stuff.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, I mean, we all saw it. And of course, by it, I'm talking about this costume she's wearing, like, her fifth time already. Like, give it up, girl.

[Ronnie Karam]

How is that even going to save you from drowning if it's, like, holding only the top of your head above the water? Stupid, stupid, stupid. You know what? Bronwyn and I are fine. And I don't like to throw around the word karma, but, like, I think it's grossly overused. I'm so sick of hearing the word karma. Like, it's, like, totally ridiculous. Like, can we get a new word? But, you know, why did you come for me so hard when you've got such icky skeletons in your closet?

[Michelle Collins]

So Bronwyn gets only.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lisa thinks the word karma is only Used is grossly overused because everyone's always telling you you're getting karma. She's like, why is everybody always using that word? It's only with you. It's only with you that they're using that word.

[Michelle Collins]

She's just like.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's.

[Michelle Collins]

She's just very, very. She's had too much exposure to Boy George. So much of that song. So Lisa is like, oh, my God, Bronwyn, you come with your own life raft. Yay. That was funny, right? And when he's like, is this fashion or costume? Lisa's. It's not Max. So is it Fastum? Costume? What? How do you mix fashion? I'm confused.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay? It's like. It's like mixing two words together. Like, you. You're a dunt. Okay, does that make any sense?

[Michelle Collins]

No.

[Ronnie Karam]

Bronwyn's like, sorry, guys, I didn't want to make a whole entrance. I'm so sorry. That's why I asked them to drop me by rope from a helicopter onto this boat wearing an inflatable dress. I hope I didn't make too much of a splash.

[Michelle Collins]

I know, right? So Brittany. Heather's like, let's get into our bikinis for lunch. And Brittany is saying, oh, my God, Bronwyn, we're literally sleeping in the same bed together. We're sleeping in the same bed together. I mean, I'm used to, you know, sharing a bed with unpleasant things like Todd, but, like, wow, this is a lot. Okay. This is a lot, bitch. My name is Bronwyn, not Jared. So we're not sleeping in the same bed together. Sorry, that was not my best work. I'm just a little disoriented. I still have Todd going through my head, not Christian Sirianna, which would have helped more in that moment.

[Ronnie Karam]

But if we do sleep together, can we get a nice big Hefty bag full of some kind of cold animal flesh that we can glue a little hair to? I'm just not going to be able to sleep otherwise.

[Michelle Collins]

Can we arrange for a bowl of Werther's Originals to be on our bedside? He sometimes just likes to hear the sound of the wrappers.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, Just don't call me Jared. Wait, I heard Jared's name, but I didn't say it. I didn't say it. Meredith just comes by with another pitcher of water and dumps it on Britney's head.

[Michelle Collins]

She's just basically like that janitor on TVs. Bloopers and practical jokes coming in, like, with the sweeping, you know? Except she has a picture Instead. So now Daisy and Ben are discussing lunch about what they're going to make, and Whitney and Heather are looking for a nipple cover. So Daisy's like, oh, I'll cruel. All cruel. Please, please keep an eye out for a missing nipple cover. In Zim, we call that. In Zim, we call that a. I don't really know what we call that in Zim, actually. I don't know why it's hard to radio the crew about that. I'll get back to work.

[Ronnie Karam]

Angie starts to get seasick. She's like, oh, oh, my God, my. I'm starting to feel like chickpeas turning into hummus. Something is happening in my stomach. And then Bronwyn and Brittany goes to their room, and Brittany's like, oh, look at this stuffed animal I got. It's a unicorn. And look, I can pull a string and look what it says. Good night, baby. You are loved. I'll tell Donnie and Marie hi for you, as I am their cousin. Mwah.

[Michelle Collins]

They didn't play the last part of the recording that said, you are loved, Stephanie. Well, I don't know who Stephanie is, but I think that's his new nickname for me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Then we cut to a stew unpacking a cucumber from one of Heather or Whitney's bags, and she's like, oh, my God, could you look at this? It's a cucumber. What is this? What is this? Is this a cucumber? What is that? What is that?

[Michelle Collins]

What is the cucumber for? So then Lisa and Meredith's room. Meredith is saying, you know, what do you think? Like, Bronwyn showed up fully inflatable as wild?

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, it's on brand. It's on brand, right? It's on brand. I wouldn't expect anything less. I wouldn't expect anything non inflatable. That's for sure. That's for sure.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah. Well, I didn't say a word. And we didn't even ask because Heather said not to, so of course we did not. Do you think she'll bring it up on her own, though?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, maybe an iteration. Maybe an iteration of the truth. Maybe like an inflatable iteration.

[Michelle Collins]

Yes. Well, I just like an honest answer because that would be nice for once.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, we'll hope for. We'll hope for honest. But you know what? We're probably gonna get an iteration. It's probably going to be an iteration.

[Michelle Collins]

Well, maybe if I DJ for her, maybe the music will soothe her into telling us the truth.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now we go back to Britain and Brittany And Bronwyn and Brittany's like, so, where have you been? Why did you not come with us?

[Michelle Collins]

Well, I'm. Okay, well, the reason why is I. I almost didn't even come at all.

[Ronnie Karam]

Why?

[Michelle Collins]

Which is something I often say at night with Todd, and. Well, look, I'm just, like, not ready to say yet, but somebody in this group is definitely planting stories about me in the press, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, well, no, but I heard those stories. But you think that someone from this group. Someone from this group would want stories?

[Michelle Collins]

Of course it is. Huh. I'm just.

[Ronnie Karam]

So the whole. The whole grand theft thing isn't true? It's not true?

[Michelle Collins]

No, it's not grand theft? No. No, it's not true. No. I bought a grand piano, but I did not have grand theft.

[Ronnie Karam]

So you didn't do whatever someone is saying? Are you sure you didn't do it?

[Michelle Collins]

Nope. And it's changed 18 times. First. First it was that I stole a car, and then it was that of all the. All kinds of other things. And I'm just. I'm not going to repeat them because it's disgusting and it's manipulative and it's trying to dig into my past and find something to discredit me. And I'm not embarrassed about my past. I've made a lot of mistakes, Brittany. I once had my eyebrows like, my mom's huge mistakes. Okay. But I'm not embarrassed about my past.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I think, honestly, Bronwyn, we're all wondering if it's true. Because it's like. I mean, you can look it up like it's public record, Bronwyn.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay, actually, it's not public record. And there's, like, some very specific shadiness going on. And it bothers me to know that you guys have been talking about it behind my back. Yeah. Because, like, not one person called me and asked if it was okay. No one, except for Mary. But she thought she was. Yeah, she thought she was calling Sephora. So, like, I really don't count that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you know, she thought she was calling Sephora, and she asked me for 10% of my income, which is super bizarre. And then she started yelling at me for not getting her a Birkin for her birthday and told me that Jesus doesn't like poor people. It's very confusing. It's very, very, very confusing.

[Michelle Collins]

Like that preacher who just got shamed. Did you see that? There was a. Like this. This mother and her son, like, walk up and give a donation to this preacher, and she was like, here's twelve Hundred dollars. And he literally shames him. He goes, twelve hundred, Come on. Like you couldn't do two thousand in front of the entire congregation or son. So then he got shamed in front of everyone. It was funny.

[Ronnie Karam]

People just keep on going. Just keep on hacking ourselves in there. Great job, buddy. She goes on and on about how none of this is true. These are mistakes she made in the past. We're talking 20 years ago. So she was evicted from an apartment, whatever. She was having a baby. And that's just a long time ago and untrue. And there's a case, they're trying to say it's current, but that's 10 plus years ago. And the only thing they can find because it's been sealed is some penal code. And that penal code lists lots of things. It doesn't mean she's guilty of all of them. I mean, it lists identity theft, grand theft, fraud, loving crackers. You know, all those things are listed under that penal code. And she's only guilty of probably one of them. Maybe. Maybe. Possibly so. I mean, it's embarrassing. It's incredibly difficult because of the stress it puts on my family. Mostly Todd, who probably got that sealed in the first place. Let's be honest. I mean, it's just stressful. How dare you even bring it up? And how dare you talk behind my back about it. Like, girl, you started the season coming in on Lisa's stuff. You. You did that yourself. Not talking to Lisa to her face, coming in with all of this crazy stuff. You have no leg to stand on. I do think this stuff is interesting because I did try to search for what the hell is going on. I found a lot of threads about what people think could be going on. Like they're trying to read between the lines of what they can find. But there is no way to find out what was going on. And it sucks. It's a mystery I don't like, because normally with this stuff, you can figure it out. You spend enough time on Reddit and you can figure it out. But I couldn't figure anything out. All I found was that I thought was interesting was Bronwyn had a post up a while back that's like, okay, I made some very serious mistakes when I was working for this place that I regret. And I'm a different person now. But those are very regretful mistakes. And I will own up to them by not talking about them at all and refusing to talk about them, but I totally own up to them. And they are mistakes that are in the past. And I'm a person who's not blah.

[Michelle Collins]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And I believe them for giving myself, you know, Bronwyn. Her Instagram posts are like a page of text, so it's hard. You have to, like, enlarge it to read it. So that was it. But it sounded like it had something to do with probably stealing from work or, you know, signing. I don't know. God knows what was going on. But it sounded like she had something to do with her job. But other than that, Ben, I cannot tell. I cannot tell.

[Michelle Collins]

Well, I just want to say that you got a lot of support last week because talking about. You were talking about sealed records, etc. And just want to say that in our lovely Discord community, Tori from Tori Town, she said, Ronnie is correct. A sealed record is not the same as a gag order. And I wish I could do a little pop in bubble for the legal clarifications because Tori from Torytown is a lawyer. So I just wanted to want you to know the lawyers have your back on that one. I just want to go back to one thing. I think that Bronwyn is a little ridiculous for also being shocked that people are talking about her behind her back, given the way the season began. I do want to know just because I feel like it's important to note that there is like a slight. There is a little bit of a different context. One is like, Lisa is actively going through, like, has lawsuits that are in the newspaper. And it's like, whoa, what's going on with Lisa? Versus And. And she also was not on good terms with Lisa, so she wouldn't call Lisa to say what's going on. And then the other version, and with Bronwyn, she's on good terms with some of the ladies. And on top of that, this is kind of like stuff that's been dug up as opposed to active current events. So it's like a slightly different context, but I think still the larger idea of like, what they talked about me behind my back is a bit ridiculous. And she, she should know and she should really be. She. And not only should she know, she should be ready to just be like, this is what happened at this point. It's. It's out there. And so, like, just say it and get it over with.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I have to say, you know, I think Bronwyn is completely full of shit. And I've always thought Bronwyn is completely full of shit. I think she lies and she gets caught in her lies all the time on this show. But that said I do like Bronwyn. I think she's really good on the show. And I'm extremely impressed with how she's handling this because it's frustrating as a viewer because you're like, well, what happened then? You fucking liar. Tell me the truth. But. But she doesn't have to, and she's not going to. And she has a great deal of help here in spinning this on Lisa with Heather and Whitney. She's got bad weather on her side, but she is handling this very well. I mean, the fact that no one's even coming after her. I mean, she's a hero online. People are like, my God, Bronwyn. Yes, Queen. Not having to speak, which is crazy for a housewives audience, because the housewives audience, man, they wanna know, and they're like, you're going to jail. And look at the reaction to all the people who've been arrested on Bravo, which is quite a few now. It's pretty hardcore. The fact that she's coming out of this kind of a hero is. I mean, I have to tip my hat to you, madame. I have to tip my inflatable hat to you. Well done.

[Michelle Collins]

Your yellow inflatable hat. The one who's helped her the most has been Lisa, because Lisa just does not. Lisa has no chill. And even if Lisa is completely innocent in the accusations that come out later this episode, she just always fails with every single argument. I mean, that's the way it's been for every single season. She just has no ability to just to be chill. And she tries. She tries so hard. She usually starts off an argument doing that, like, little squint thing. Which is what? I never said that. Why would you say that? Okay. If you're going to say these things, you have to really believe it, because I don't want to hear it anymore. Like, she cannot. She just can't do the stoic thing and let the other person lose their shit. Like, she just falls into every single trap. It's like she sees the carrot in the middle. The far. She goes, oh, look, it's a carrot for me to snack on. And then she's in a net, you know, Every single time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yep. So when I said to Todd, you know, when I told Todd that I was coming here, he said, I don't think you should fly halfway across the world to be with people who do this to you. And where is my fiber? Do you want me to poop out pellets for the rest of my life? And I said, look, you know, Todd, sorry, we'll talk to muzzy. But it's very upsetting for Todd. You know, he doesn't deal with nastiness and lies. He's a very upstanding business person. He's very serious. He works with very serious people who still believe that you should type on actual buttons on your phone instead of touch screens. And it upsets my daughter. It upsets my husband. I need time to figure this out with them. I need time. I need time.

[Michelle Collins]

You know, I don't want to add more to Todd's plate. He's already very stressed out trying to figure out the difference between im, a dm, an email, and a text. Okay? So it's just. It's a lot for him right now. So Britney goes, oh, interesting. Which is her way of saying, I zoned out. I wasn't listening.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Brittany's not buying any of this. She's just, like, flashing those teeth, like, interesting, sting. Like, we're gonna get you. We're gonna get you. And I love that these two ladies are staying in the same room and are still gonna come for each other the entire episode. Like, they don't even give a crap. Like, I'll have to sleep next to you. I don't care. You're a.

[Michelle Collins]

You're a. Commercials.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here comes one right now.

[Michelle Collins]

So one of the stews goes up to Daisy's, like, you know what? I found a cucumber. Oh, you found a cucumber? In their bags. In their bags. No, you didn't.

[Ronnie Karam]

I found it.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh, I know. It was this thick. I put it next to their bed. I don't know if it was a midnight snack or whatever. And so then the producer was just asking everyone, did you pack a giant cucumber? And Meredith was like, what? What? What?

[Ronnie Karam]

Nether goes, what kind of question is that? Which I liked. And Bronwyn says, I don't cook. So Angie thinks everyone's going to blame her because there are cucumbers and Greek guys. It was a suitcase in a room. We know it has to be whoever's room that was. Why don't you just ask the person whose suitcase it is? And then we never find out, do we? Who's cucumber?

[Michelle Collins]

No, they just are trying to make it some sort of gag. I'm like, you know, you have footage of the cucumber being pulled out of someone's bag, and you can probably see whose bag that was. I don't know why you're trying to make it a mystery for us, because we don't even care about this. Like, it's not an interesting mystery for us.

[Ronnie Karam]

So it's kind of like, what are you, the Sopranos? Like, this is how you're going to end it. We're just never going to find out. The cucumber. They're like. And now we're going to find out who brought the cucumber. Black screen. Nobody ever knows. What the hell?

[Michelle Collins]

Don't stop believing. Angie is now puking in the toilet because she's got seasickness. And everyone's taking pictures with Ben. He's making lunch and everyone's gathering at the table and. And they get their salads and everything. And Heather is sorry. No, go ahead.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sisterhood. Guys, it's lunchtime, which means it's time for a speech. Guys, it's our first meal together on the yacht and Bronwyn's here and I just want to say sandwiches are like friendship. You have a bunch of white things and then in the middle you've got a bunch of mess. And somehow we're going to make it taste good together because we're sisters and that's what sisters do.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, that was great. Hey, Bronwyn, is everything okay though?

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, you know, it's just very upsetting because a lot of things have upset Todd. And you know, people just keep. They just keep trying to dig into my past. They just keep digging and digging and they're trying to say things that aren't true. And you know, maybe Todd thought maybe I would be better at home with him. You know, he thought maybe I would be better at home with him than here with people who are trying to ruin my life.

[Michelle Collins]

Well, I didn't look into specifics, but I just saw things that went from just a few years back to 20 years back. And I think it would be in your best interests just to clear it up because it looks a lot worse in my guess than it probably is. So while you do that, I also would like to offer that if anyone has any hangars, a plane is ready to come in. I just. I really need to feed a toddler right now. Okay. I'm without Brooksy. Don't know what to do with myself.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Meredith. Well, I did get kicked out of BYU. Okay, 20 years ago. And when I left BYU, I did not pay my last month of rent. Okay? Uh huh. So it took me a few months to get my life together. Okay, well that's weird because didn't she say she was evicted? So if you're not paying your last month of rent, you already get evicted. Like what do you get Evicted after a week.

[Michelle Collins]

I think it would.

[Ronnie Karam]

Still not trying to find holes. But I have gotten an eviction notice, and it took a few months. That would be my big, dirty secret. Ronnie had an eviction notice after a few months. Dun, dun, dun. And then I tried to get my life together, and then there was a judgment, and I didn't pay my last couple of months rent at my apartment. Okay, well, so now it's two months. Okay, well, that was 20 years ago. I was 19. I was pregnant. I mean, who can remember? I had pregnancy brain. I was renting the baby. I thought I had signed a lease for the baby. So I was actually paying my uterus to rent. So what's the big deal? Stop trying to ruin my life. Okay?

[Michelle Collins]

Mary's like, but how is it that this is even coming up in the press? Well, someone's trying to bring that up. Well, you know what, ladies? Not only are we a sisterhood, but I have to admit, the charges, they're just. There are more charges that are coming out, and they're. They're saying that they're four years old. Almost as old as my first book that I wrote. Remember when I did that? You exploited my vagina? Yep. It was that one four years ago. Well, okay. Well, I haven't charged against me.

[Ronnie Karam]

I haven't seen anything about the eviction. I haven't seen that in any of the, you know, gossips being spread like, oh, she was evicted. I don't. I think that that's kind of a straw man that she's putting up. Like, well, okay, I've done some wrong things, like, I got evicted once, but I haven't seen that in any of the. I mean, the allegations are like, you know, grand theft auto and fraud and stuff like that. But she's saying, no, you know, there's no charges from four years ago. There's a new thing that people are trying to say was there because something went on at work, but I cooperated with the authorities about the thing that happened at work, and there were not charges against me. But then years later, all the charges against not me went through, but then it was sealed. So I guess she's saying she was included in charges, but they weren't against her. But because she was included in charges, now it looks like she was charged.

[Michelle Collins]

With maybe she testified against, like, maybe something's going on in her workplace, and she testified. And so she got, like. She got looped in because it was a shady workplace, but because she testified, she got some sort of immunity. Maybe that's that's how that sounded to me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So she's like, yeah. So years later, all the charges against not me went through, but that was sealed. And Lisa says, why was it sealed? And she's like, oh, can't discuss it. Can't discuss it because, you know, the whole case was sealed, which is why people are speculating, because nobody can get any information on a case that sealed. That's what sealed means. So it was. You know, it wasn't something about me. It's just something that my name was in that was sealed that I can't talk about. It's nothing to do. I was there. I was there. I was. I was in the room. I mean, it wasn't me.

[Michelle Collins]

It was about a seal. Okay, I'll be. I'll be honest. Someone tried to smuggle a seal into someone's basement. You ever hear chimp crazy? Well, seal crazy came first. Okay. I have a seal in my basement.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll ask you this. Why does seal always wear a scarf? I can't tell you because it's sealed.

[Michelle Collins]

Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Long scarf. No one knows why. I might, but I can't talk about it. It was sealed, you guys. It was sealed. Do.

[Michelle Collins]

Do I know how to throw a fish at a seal? Yes. Have I been part of a traveling circus? I. I can't say. I cannot say that for sure. Okay, but that's sealed. It's sealed.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Michelle Collins]

Heather's like, well, why would they file charges on your record against you? And she goes, well, there's no charges that are. That are filed about me. There's no mug shot. There's no police record. There's no nothing. There's no seal. There's no fish. There's no inflatable ball. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. There's nothing. Nothing whatsoever. I'm totally innocent, as you can see by my reaction.

[Ronnie Karam]

So why are you so upset then? Why are you so upset? And she's like. And Lisa's like, yeah. Why would it matter? Well, because both of us. And this is me and Todd, who's a very serious person, so I'm going to keep bringing up Todd because that somehow lends credence to the fact that I'm innocent. But we both feel that there's some nasty things that have come out in the press after I've hung out with this group of friends, and I think both of us are concerned that maybe somebody in this group is doing it. I think. You know, I think. Okay, let me explain what happens. You're on a housewife show. You're On a housewife show, people think you're full of shit, and they start digging around into your record. It happens with every housewife. I don't know that you need to blame literally every person in this or one person in this group. It happens to everybody. Shit's gonna come out about you. I mean, what the hell?

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, I actually agree with that. I think, like, maybe. Like, maybe there's someone in the group that's feeding. Feeding. But I. I do think that ultimately, people. People really dig up in the audience, okay? People have time on their hands, and they're dedicated. So, I mean, it's just. It's gonna come up. It doesn't have to be a cast member to do it. If it's out there, it's out there.

[Ronnie Karam]

So it's like, well, I don't think it's anyone here. Yeah, it's not us. Not us. Not me. I mean, it's not me for sure. Like, I know it would be nobody here because we've been, like, hanging out for a long time, and nobody would do that here. Anybody. Unless it was against Mary and it was getting someone from her church who she gave. Who gave her $300,000 or something like that, you know, okay, that was maybe me. But you know what? Everything else. Like, I don't know who it could be. Who could it be?

[Michelle Collins]

We all agree, right, that Lisa needs to be on the next season of the Traitors, because she would be such a disaster at the round table. It wasn't me. I didn't murder anyone. Like, I literally didn't. I don't know why. Like, I don't know why I did John Barlow right now. Oh, no. I don't think I murdered someone. I didn't murder anyone. Like, this is crazy. I've got six lawyers. I want to go the distance on the murderers.

[Ronnie Karam]

She would even do that in the turret. She'd, like, be the. She would be the murderer. And they'd be like, okay, who are we going to kill? I didn't do it. Why is everybody accusing me all the time?

[Michelle Collins]

I'm so sick of this chat.

[Ronnie Karam]

So sick of that.

[Michelle Collins]

Like, I don't know why she is not on that show. She will be. No matter what role she has, she will be a total disaster. So Whitney's like, wait a second. How are they getting, like, detailed information that has to be dug up and spun? And Brahma goes, well, I agree with Whitney. It is weird that some stuff comes up in the group all the time. And it's weird that, like, you know, certain Things happen. I don't think it's weird. I don't think it's weird. Totally innocent, guys. I'm so innocent. I'm just gonna say this very urgently. Like, I just. Like, I just think I'm being okay. I'm gonna be, like, super direct. I don't think it's, like, weird that you, like, dog up stuff on me, like, just bringing stuff into the group, like, when I wasn't there. I'm just like. I'm just, like. I'm just being clear. Everyone, I'm being clear. Like, I upset you, and I felt like that was, like, a little bit of a retaliation. So just gonna be really clear. Like, I'm totally, like, innocent right now. And, like, everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. I need John Barlow.

[Ronnie Karam]

See, and I think that that's the read that everybody's getting is at least is acting totally. I think that she is coming across as totally guilty by acting this way, but I think she's acting this way because. Because it's clear that Bronwyn's talking about Lisa. Like, it's very clear that Bronwyn's accusing Lisa of doing this. And so Lisa's getting defensive. Like, I didn't do this. Now did Lisa do it? I don't know, but I see why she's being defensive, because they're clearly about to pin this on Lisa. You know, she's so. She's like, well, wait, before you even come for me, you dug stuff up on me last year for retaliation about the necklace thing. So, yeah, there.

[Michelle Collins]

So Heather's like, pipe down, Lisa. You're revealing yourself. She's clearly saying, you know, don't put too together in case anyone here is putting two and two together, right? She's trying to deflect. Don't spend this on me because you got targeted. Because, like, that'll fucking piss me off. I am totally innocent right now. And, like, Lisa, even if you are innocent, you are acting so guilty. Just, like, take it down a notch.

[Ronnie Karam]

And people really love you. Well, my. My lawsuit sleep, and somebody did that to me. But no one would ever do that to you, and certainly not in retaliation, right, Lee? That's how she sounds. And Mary's like, okay, well, I mean, look, we know who you're talking about. So it's just not anybody at a random out of the group. It's not just anybody random out of the group, so. So who are you talking about? Nope, nope. I'm not gonna say. It was sealed. It was. I thought it was someone. And it has been sealed. It has been sealed.

[Michelle Collins]

Here's the thing. It would really bother me if it was someone in this group of friends or if it was Christian Siri. Should be okay if Christian Siriano did it, because I still get free dresses, and I don't think any of us should do that to each other ever. Ever. And so Heather's like, well, who do you think it came from? Do you want to say it? And, well, it's not dinner yet, so I don't really want to go full, full force on this, but, like, for a lunchtime fight, sure. I'll just say this. I'm not accusing anybody. But after Amy's. Remember Amy? Everyone remember Amy. She was. I think she's supposed to be our friend of. Okay. It really intensified, and I had a lot of fights at Amy's. And after that lunch, I came to, like, where you had clarification. I thought, like, Lisa, you and I cleared things up, and then we had a sit down and we talked. I'm not accusing you, but I'm.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, we had clarification. Yeah, we had clarification.

[Michelle Collins]

I didn't do anything to yo.

[Ronnie Karam]

I didn't have anything for you. No. So, no, I didn't do.

[Michelle Collins]

I don't know where to say this. I mean, it's coming from. Because I'm not going to accuse anyone.

[Ronnie Karam]

Iteration.

[Michelle Collins]

I'm going to say we did have a conversation and.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, yeah, because it's an iteration. Yeah, well, you know what? You know what? That sounds like an accusation. That sounds like an iteration of an accusation.

[Michelle Collins]

Be devastating, it would be sad to say. I was saying it's devastating if it did come from you. But I'm not saying it did. But if it did, it would be devastating. It would be really horrifying. It would actually be very much on Brandon in character. But I'm not saying it came from you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But then who sent my stuff? Who sent my stuff? Then, like, who was going. Who was going to the blogs and Salt Lake Tribune? Who was doing that? Right. You know what? I'm so, like, irritated with another accusation as dumb as this one. That's just dumb. Okay? And you know what, you guys, let's go swimming. Cause this is, like, irritating. You know what?

[Michelle Collins]

It's.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like 100 degrees in here. Listen. Why am I so hot? I'm so hot. I'm itching. Why am I itching right now? Oh, my God. Get these clothes off of me. Get me into the water.

[Michelle Collins]

I can't oh, my God. Like, I didn't do that to you. Like, you can fucking think it's me, but I'm like, not gonna be the scapegoat again. This is like fucking bullshit. I'm not gonna be the scapegoat. So Whitney's like, no one even accuse you. We just heavily, heavily implied that it was you. But it wasn't technically an accusation.

[Ronnie Karam]

We were just hinting a lot that it was you to make you mad stupid.

[Michelle Collins]

So now they all are going to go swimming. And Lisa's so mad, she got like so spun. It's so spun Heather. And Heather goes, yeah, you're fucked. You're fucked. Especially later tonight. Wait till you see what I've got in plan for you.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, I'm not fucked. I got spun. She's like, yeah, you're fucked. Lisa, she's got a huge shit eating grit on her face. So now they're going swimming. Angie's still sick. Heather goes on water tours with Captain Jason and she's like, you're a fucking bronco, Jason.

[Michelle Collins]

And yeah, Brittany starts getting shot like, puking like crazy. Brittany is like, oh, my God, you're canoodling Jason. I know, but I know Jason and I are friends. We have a history. You know, we're we around before. There's nothing there. A what? What are you talking about? Did I say friends? Oh, my God, that's hilarious. Did I say fucked around? I meant we're friends. Oh, God. There's latitude to say fucked around when you're friends.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then she tells us. She's like, I said that serious face. You can't use that. I don't know why I would say that I fucked around with Jason. Delete, delete, delete. Total accident. Such a Heather move. Whoops. So did I or didn't I? I don't know. Audience.

[Michelle Collins]

Hello, ladies. Does anyone want to play with the Zimbabwe swan? Oh, my God, I love the duck.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I love ducks.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, I love that it's a swan. Does anyone want to play with the swan? Anyone raise your hand if you want to play with a swan and then say, I'd like to play with a swan.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you're gonna have to paddle. You're gonna have to be the duck on that because that's a duck.

[Michelle Collins]

It's actually a swan. In Zimbabwe, the swan swans.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love ducks. I love Zimbabwe. Love Zimbabwe ducks. So Brittany's like trying to flirt by getting on this swan and she's. Lisa's like, oh, Brittany's in pursuit of a man and she's not gonna stop even if she's floating away on a.

[Michelle Collins]

Dock like it's a swan. So they're all in the water and Lisa's like, oh, my gosh, look, they're all so far away now. Can someone help my friends? So they go to help Angie and they put her on Angie on a raft. And Angie is like, her seasickness is out of control. I mean, she is throwing up everywhere. And they put. They just keep it all on camera. We just see so much puke.

[Ronnie Karam]

So gross. She's like doing that thing where you throw up through your hands, like trying to cover your mouth. Ah, so nasty.

[Michelle Collins]

She throws up through her hands and then she clings her hand around, like, this guy's leg. Eddie, I guess. And he's just got her vomit hands on his leg. And she's like, she's holding on. She's like, oh, I am Greek. Greek vomit. Greek vomit. She looks great though, by the way. Angie. Angie looking sick. She looked beautiful. It was one of the most beautiful vomiters I've ever seen.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now Brittany is flirting with Joao and she's like, so, did you have fun? He's like, I did. Are you going to have a late night tonight? She's like, what's that? What's that? Late night tonight? She's like, late night? What late night tonight? Oh, we are gonna have a late night. Are we gonna see you again later? Oh, of course you're going to see me. I'm here, aren't I? But are we gonna see you? See you. I'm here. Can you see me now? Are we gonna see you? See you. Please put your teeth back on your mouth. You're starting to scare me. Okay, well, you have my number. No, I don't.

[Michelle Collins]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

You do. Just look in your back pocket.

[Michelle Collins]

Oh, I see it is there.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is an inflatable. Wait, this. I'm sorry, this is a stuffed unicorn. Give that back to me.

[Michelle Collins]

So Whitney's in Bronwyn's room and. And Bronwyn's like, look, Whitney, look.

[Ronnie Karam]

Look.

[Michelle Collins]

What? Look what? I'm sorry. Bronwyn's like, look what Brittany brought. So she shows Whitney the unicorn with Jared's voice like, you are loved. You are loved. So Brahma goes, if that goes off in the middle of the night, it's going to give me, like, it's. It's going to be like sleep paralysed. I'll be like a sleep paralysed demon. Like, that will really make Angie vomit when he goes, is that Jared's voice. Who the fuck is he? Also, she's on a 30 day fast. She prays that she's not going to be. I mean, she promised. Okay, from the top. She promised she's not gonna be with him and she's gonna find one of the deku here and get with them instead. That's the story for her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cut to Brittany flirting with Mike. The hair. She's like, oh, I love a man with an accent. He's like, do you? Do you love it? Love that for you. Love that for me. Love accent. I've got one. Got one right here. Everyone take a ride around on it. You really are an icon. Like, yeah, yeah. Don't know anything that you just said, but you're very, very handsome. He's like, so what do you do? I'm a developer. A real estate developer. You understand what that is? Like you develop. Not following. Yeah, real estate. Then I sell it. I sell what I build. So I build things and then I sell things. Got it. So you build, you sell. You sell buildings. Well, that I built. I build them and then I sell them. You get it? And he's just looking at her like with Homer Simpson eyes, just blinking blankly. What's wrong with this guy? You've never heard of a real estate developer?

[Michelle Collins]

I think he's just looking at Brittany and he's like, this woman does not build. She's not a real estate developer. Because I was like, since when are you a real estate developer? I thought you were in real estate. But being a real estate developer is a whole other thing. I'm like, you are not a real estate developer, Whitney. I mean, Brittany me. So Bronwyn and Whitney are still talking and Bronwyn's like, what was that, lunch? I mean, I didn't even think. I. I didn't even say, I think it's Lisa. I just said, I would be really devastated if it were Lisa. And then I looked at her face and I pointed a finger at her and I said, it's probably you. Right? But it wasn't an actual accusation. It was just a question. So the second I said, I think someone's putting stuff in the press about me, she was like, none of us would ever do that and this group would never do that. And I wasn't even accusing her. I just wasn't doing that at all. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Prom.

[Michelle Collins]

When?

[Ronnie Karam]

Because it was her. I heard about it from the blogger I'm in contact with and called on camera last season. I love that Whitney has such a place in this conversation. When Whitney's Been on camera calling bloggers and having a relationship with them. Like, her whole last season was about who lied, her or the blogger.

[Michelle Collins]

This is like the ongoing thing with these shows. Whenever there is an episode, whenever there's like a season about leaking stuff to outsiders, which is happening currently in Orange county, it happened in Beverly Hills. They all then call up their connections and are like, tell me what the real story is. And they think that they're actually proving something. But what they're really showing is that they speak with outsiders just as much as anyone else. That's the same as Tamara talking to her reliable source or Whitney speaking to her blogger, which was, I think. What was that up and Atom, right? Like, it's just. It's so hilarious that they think this is somehow going to exonerate them.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Bronwyn, you know, you know, they start this whole thing. Bronwyn's like, well, who broke the Alibaba thing last year, right? That was Lisa, right? That was all over the place. How are you going to blame? I mean, I'm sorry, you know, and people in comments like, why are you Stan Lisa? It's not Stanning Lisa. I just think this is bullshit. I think it's a frame up job. It's so obvious to me that it is. The Alibaba thing last year were screenshots from the Internet of Whitney copying, like literally taking screenshots from Alibaba and putting them on her own website, not even dressing them up or anything, and selling the exact same jewelry for like 10 times the price it was on Alibaba. That was not some great mystery that somebody had to go uncover. That was all over the Internet. And Bronwyn's like, well, she broke that. She broke that. No, she used it against her, which is what you're supposed to do on this show. It's like getting mad at a tool, you know, at a construction worker for not using a drill gun, right?

[Michelle Collins]

And then Brahman saying, you know what? And then here's another thing. What was that nickname she called me? Conwyn, something like that. Bronwyn. Ted Conway. Did you call me Ted Conway? And then that's like, Lisa called me that at Amy's, remember? And the stuff wasn't out in the press yet. So she said the nickname first and then it was in the press. Like, it's a bit of a stretch, I think, especially. Yeah, she said, fraud win. And the press said something else.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know. I mean, no, it's proven to be. It's proven to be right here. Because she said, she called me Conwyn.

[Michelle Collins]

And.

[Ronnie Karam]

And the very next day, it was in the press, and that name hadn't been out there yet, so it had to be Lisa. That's her proof. But then we see the clip, and Lisa called her Fraudwin, which had been around for a long time. That was an Internet name that people were calling Fonwin. Anyway, so the series shot down, and Whitney's like, wait a minute. At her party, she called you Conwyn. She's like, mm. And then we see that that's not true. She called her Fraud Win. And she goes. And then the next day, it was on Twitter. Well, it's not a coincidence that the troll is using the same name that Lisa was using for Bronwyn. Within days. It's like, Lisa's not even trying to hide that she's behind this. She's getting sloppy.

[Michelle Collins]

You know? And then when I said, I think it's someone here. No one in this group would ever do that. How does she know no one in the group would ever do that? When he goes, we know that she does. She's done it to everyone. And Bronwyn's like, and if I think. If I think she could do this to me, that's the end. But I'm not accusing her. Not an accusation whatsoever. Just a theoretical I'm playing out of my brain.

[Ronnie Karam]

So we cut to Lisa, and Lisa's like, hi, John. I'm having so much fun here. Hey, you know what? I want to show that I've grown. So is there anything you wanted to say? Yeah, it's been so fun. Okay, bye. Good talking to you. So then we go back to Whitney and Heather in Heather's room. And Whitney's like, every time Lisa's mad at someone, information leaks about them. Angie, me, Bronwyn, Mary Meredith. Are there any more? And Heather's like, I agree. I agree. Well, do you think Lisa leaves it? Yes, absolutely. Lisa's smarter and darker than any of us could imagine. And I think she looks up everything. She keeps a scorecard. And she's pissed about Bronwyn and her attitude and her bullshit. And she's made sure that anyone who's interested knows her story.

[Michelle Collins]

Look, this has been going on with Lisa and Bronwyn for a while. I mean, we saw in New York that Lisa had spoken to Emma the jeweler. I've seen Lisa talking to other people and gathering information about Bronwyn. And we see flashback to Amy's party where Heather overhears Lisa asking if Amy knows Bronwyn. And people Like, Taj is basically trying to get gossip, etc. And Heather says, and when Angie dropped that Lisa had given her names and information to dig up Meredith, it sealed the deal for me. And this sisterhood, it was undeniable. I think all the leaks came from Lisa. So what do we do?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I'd just like to say that point. I'd just like to point out that it's all been true so far. So if Lisa is going up and she's digging up all this stuff on people, I mean, the Whitney Alibaba stuff was true. And what's the other thing that she's accused of? Oh, the jewelry thing. The. The whole thing about Bronwyn lying about that jewelry, that was proven to be a lie. Bronwyn apologized for it at the beginning of the year and, like, took responsibility for it. So I don't know that I would keep bringing this up as, like, oh, Lisa. Lis. Lisa. Because she's always telling the truth. And also, if Lisa did do this Bronwyn stuff, where did she find it out from?

[Michelle Collins]

Well, I think that I. Look, even if it's all true, I think their. Their. Their issue is that Lisa never talks about her. So Lisa's happy to dig up all this.

[Ronnie Karam]

They do, but. They all do. But you see, that's what makes it so hypocritical. Like, why are they. And also, who brought up the Bronwyn stuff last week? I don't think it was Lisa, because wasn't. Lisa wasn't even there. Wasn't it Whitney? He was like, did you guys see when they were having their. Below deck, their planning party? It was Whitney. It was like, did you guys see the news about Bronwyn? Oh, my God. We're gonna talk about it no matter what. Lisa didn't even bring it up. Yeah.

[Michelle Collins]

So Heather says, well, I think all the leaks came from Lisa. I think we should get Meredith in here. So Whitney's like, okay. She, like, does a somersault off of the bed for no reason. She just leans back and forth, rolls off of the bed. I was like, what is happening? This is such. This show, like, have a weird, acrobatic exit from the scene.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And this is very bad weather. Right. Okay, let's confront Lisa. But we don't have the nuts to do it ourselves, so let's make Meredith do it. Go get Meredith. She's like, okay, so Meredith. She's like, Meredith is probably Lisa's closest friend, so I want to know if she feels the same way. I don't want to destroy my friendship with Lisa by addressing this. And if Meredith is there to just show support and help me, then it would go over a lot better. No, you're trying to get Meredith to do it to keep your hands clean, and it's not gonna work, ma'. Am. So Meredith comes in and she's like, okay, tell her, Whitney. Okay, well, okay, here it is. Lisa hated me last year, right? Well, yeah, the year before that and the year before that. She's probably always gonna hate you, Whitney. I mean, you are Whitney, so in her defense, you are pretty Whitney. Yeah. So, okay, there's one thing. She hates me, right? And then all this information leaked about me. But now she's at odds with Bronwyn. But don't you think that's a little suspicious?

[Michelle Collins]

So you think that she's been engaging with the press in an inappropriate way? Is that why? Let me get my legal pad here. Are you asking for representation? Because I am ready and willing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, because we were finally talking about Lisa and what she's going through, and you know, but now we're not talking about her.

[Michelle Collins]

Yeah, we were talking about Lisa's lawsuits. That was supposed to be our season arc, and now we're not talking about them anymore. Just to sort of say what Whitney said, but faster. Well, in fact, that is the case. That is definitely a problem. Which is my non committal response. I'll just. Just hear what you guys have to say and report back to Lisa. So anything else you want to stir up here?

[Ronnie Karam]

What's the case? Well, Whitney. Stop. Trying to have a conversation with Whitney is like. Meredith just keeps looking at her like. Okay, let me explain this to you like you're five. All right? If Lisa is in fact spreading information to some sort of media outlets that's negative about her friends, that's definitely a problem. Okay, that's not a question, obviously, if that's true. And you know I can't speak to this issue with Brown, but as far as I know, in our own interactions, we're in a good place. To me at least.

[Michelle Collins]

Look, I just said a whole paragraph that says nothing. But it makes you feel like I'm on your side, but I can't be held against me when it questions come up about how loyal I am to Lisa. So congratulations, friends. So Heather says. But you don't think it's highly suspicious that all this stuff leaks about con when fraud port. That's good word play. You have to admit. That's good wordplay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Right?

[Michelle Collins]

When Lisa was at the height of her of anger With Bronwyn. Whoa. I don't think it's. I think it's not positive. I'll say that on all accounts. And I think it's. It's definitely, definitely negative. And it's, you know, it's not not negative, but it's definitely not not positive. And if you really want to take even farther, it's not not not not negative and not not, not not not positive. You always got to do one more for the positive to make it a double negative. On top of that. Whitney, your eyes are glazing over. Okay. She's asleep. Can I go now? Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

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