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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all the crap we love to talk about on Ye Olde Bruvs. I'm Ronnie and that is the gorgeous and talented wanted Ben Manelker over there. Hello Ben.
Ben
Hi Ronnie.
Ronnie
How are you?
Ben
I'm wearing my Fudge College sweatshirt today. Isn't this fun?
Ronnie
Yeah, you do have your Fudge College going on That's a cute. Those are great sweatshirts.
Ben
It's a great. A great sweatshirt.
Ronnie
We love a gift.
Ben
Our friends made these for us, and they're. And of course, she works at fashion magazine, so of course she would get us, like, quality.
Ronnie
Oh, not just a fashion magazine. Someone from Vogue made us. Okay.
Ben
I was trying to, like, I was like, I don't know if she would get in trouble or not if I mentioned the publication.
Ronnie
Well, we won't mention her name. So many. Vogue is in trouble today. But we know who's making sweatshirts that say Fudge College under Vogue's brand. Yeah.
Ben
Anna Wintour herself sat us down and said, you guys need Fudge College sweatshirts. And here we are.
Ronnie
Or as we call her, wig.
Ben
You know, we're just kidding. It's actually Candice Bergen's daughter who now runs Vogue. Greatest Nepo baby story of all time. Yeah.
Ronnie
So we hooked that up. So thank you for that. And also, everybody, thank you for being here with. Watch what crappens. Okay, this is a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City episode. Monday, we will be doing Amazon live at 4pm Pacific time. And then we're off to BravoCon. BravoCon. We are moderating the next gen NYC panel. It's the last panel of the entire con and it's the first time that that cast will ever be in a reunion type setting. So we're very excited to meet all the kids over there, and so we hope you guys can come to that. Whoever's going to BravoCon. We will also be doing a meetup at BravoCon. Details will be announced probably that day or the day before. So you'll have to check our socials to figure out where that is. But that's going to be a free event. We just want to hang out with you guys and meet you, anyone who's there and party together. That's. That would be so fun. So we hope you guys can come. Okay, so just keep checking. Watch what crap wants on Instagram.
Ben
You know what? We want to bring together the Bravo community. So all of our content creator friends, the listeners, let's just have a big fun party. And also, we only have two Dwell hellos left, because guess what? That's gonna be it for Dwell Hello. We've decided that we're going to fit. Wrap it up. Okay.
Ronnie
We've Dwell goodbye. Okay, goodbye.
Ben
We love Dwell hello, but we need to, like, you know, like, open up our bandwidth a little bit. So two Dwell hellos left. And if you know of some crazy, crazy, crazy house Hunters episodes, International or domestic that we have not covered because we've covered a lot of the crazy ones. There was the guy in Bangkok who made the fried chicken. There's been. He's really the craziest one. There's the guy with the. With the. The. Was it the Hobby corner, The Hobby Hole or something like that?
Ronnie
The Murder Hole.
Ben
Castle in Ireland.
Ronnie
Yeah, the Murder Hole. The swingers, the nudists, the people who moved out. I mean, we want some extreme episodes and they need to be on HBO Max or YouTube TV. So just email us@watchgrappensmail.com and just put in the title Dwell Hu. Hello. Suggestions? So those will be the final two 12 hellos.
Ben
Okay.
Ronnie
So we're excited for that and just gearing up to go into holiday time. So many things are happening. We got the Vanderpump Rules trailer this week. We just did a trailer trash for that. We got the Beverly Hills trailer yesterday. So we'll do that for next week's bonus episode. So, yeah, lots of crazy stuff leading into this year that's about to be new. Wow. Today, you know, but today we've got Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 6, Episode 8. Talk about I don't know what this.
Ben
One that are about to be new. Right.
Ronnie
Every moment. You never know when a new face is going to pop off one of these people. You know, it's like cutting off the. Cutting off a worm. It just grows back the other way.
Ben
Yeah. Or like Total Recall where the face opens up and there's a face inside. Yeah.
Ronnie
Or like that movie Face Off.
Ben
I want to take your face off. God, I love that movie. People don't realize this about me. I talk about gay movies all the time. Big business, soap dish bullets over Broadway. What people don't know is that I love Face Off. I love that movie. I remember seeing it in the theaters and I was like, my mind has been blown. I don't think I've ever seen such a good action movie. And to this day, it is probably my number one favorite action movie. I even have the score. I have the soundtrack of the orchestral soundtrack to an action movie. It doesn't make any sense. I love that movie so much. It's a little insight into me.
Ronnie
Yeah, well, there you go. You've never even had facial work. You see. Can't wait to actually get it Justice.
Ben
Justice for CCH Pounder's character. That's all I have to say.
Ronnie
You know what? Justice for all of CCH Pounder's character. Like, does she ever get justice in anything she does. She's always getting the rond of the stick and everything. Okay, so here we are on the below deck down under crossover. It's day two. Dun, dun, dun. So the crew's prepping for breakfast, so all we hear is squeaking. You know, it's like, squeak, squeak, squeak while they're squeaking the boat. And Bronwyn has slept outside, and she slept outside in Melissa Gorga's Italy pajamas, you know, because there's lemons all over them. And she's just out there sleeping, sleeping outside, which is kind of sad. But the other option was sleeping with Britney, so.
Ben
Well, I also want to just like. I also want to put something out there.
Ronnie
I want.
Ben
I want to propose something. She had a third option, which is to sleep on the sofa inside in the living room. Like, why not? Why not? Why did you. Why did you sleep on a chair under, like, under the. Under the elements where you got rained on overnight? Like, you know, there was a perfectly good sofa indoors that we've seen other people on blow deck sleep on.
Ronnie
Well, I don't know, but I think it sounds nice. You know, whenever you're on a trip like that, you're like, oh, I'm gonna sleep under the stars and wow, luxury. And then it rains on your ass. Yeah, well, but then there was a fourth option too, which is to tell Brittany. Oh, I heard that on this boat, lots of dick shows up in the middle of the night. It's like the Santa Claus. A dick. Just dick dick's gonna be coming on this boat. Nobody knows when, nobody knows where, but they generally party outside. And Brittany would just stay out there.
Ben
Thicker Claus, you know? Yeah, just. Just say that Jared Osmond is. Is waiting for her on the deck, and she'll just go running out there and then just lock the door behind her. The old.
Ronnie
Yeah. Or just say, oh, you know what? Your daughter is going to be calling me to ask you questions in the middle of the night, but I don't get reception outside. She just go out there?
Ben
Yeah, exactly. Oh, Andrew Lloyd Weber's outside. Oh, my God, let her run out there. There's so many ways to trick Britney. The fact that. The fact that Brwin wasn't able to actually do that to her is. It's upsetting in many ways because I feel like it's an easy victory for Bronwyn. But also for people who don't watch below deck, I'm hoping that there was a scene on. On a recent blow deck where Captain Cary fooled a very drunk person into going into A room. And then he locked her in the room. And I want that to become a trope. I want that, like. Like, at least once per season, someone gets tricked into a room, and then they get stuck in there. And I feel like this is a real way to kind of, like, amp that up. And Bronwyn could have done that and didn't.
Ronnie
Alas, she didn't. So she's waking up on the deck and she's like, oh, my. Guys. Guys, have you. Am I in your way? Am I in your way? Sorry. I had to sleep outside. They stuck me with a horrible slut, so I had to sleep outside instead. It rained on my head. So that was. That was great. I was probably. It was Lisa's fault. Lisa did this to me. So can I have some water and a Dr. Pepper? That would be great.
Ben
I know it's weird, but, you know, I also am someone who wears inflatable dinosaur costumes at the airport and married a grandfather. So, you know, weird is kind of my thing.
Ronnie
So then surprised I don't identify with Bronwyn more. I like, like, really bad fashion. And I also love Dr. Pepper, but still don't really love her. But Dr. Pepper will.
Ben
You don't like tight asses. You don't like tight asses. And that's going to negate all those other things.
Ronnie
Yeah, I guess. So then we go to Heather and Whitney, and they're waking up, and Heather's pulling the whole, like, what even happened last night? Oh, we're not following for that again, Ms. Black Eye. Black eye storyline.
Ben
Black eyed tease. So then Whitney is like. She's like, we drank a lot. And Heather goes, yeah, what happened? You were a baller. There was nothing that happened in last night's episode that said that Heather was a baller. Not even if you were on Heather's side? Not even if you didn't believe she was gaslighting Lisa Barlow. There's nothing baller about anything that happened last night. And so Heather's like.
Ronnie
But they love it because they're always planning on every season. It's like, let's go after Lisa. Let's go after Lisa. They do it and they're like, you did great. You were a baller.
Ben
The thing is with Lisa, she's our good friend in this sisterhood of women, and I don't want her to, like, look at our friendships like, it's a scorecard. You know, count our money, know all of our dirty deeds, you know, all the skeletons in our closet. If she's our friend, then be A friend says the woman who sat down and pointed a finger at Lisa Barlow on national television and said, you leaked everything to the press. And then act shocked that Lisa Barlow was like upset at her. And then she's gonna be like, but I'm being a friend to you right now. I don't know. This is not me being Team Lisa. This is just me being team Heather's totally ridiculous. Hilarious and ridiculous in the last episode.
Ronnie
So we, our friend Hannah is over here staying with me for a few days with her family. And so that last night was our first day here and we had a great time. And of course we have Housewives together because that's what you do with one of your friends. You know, it's like, let's, let's sit down and bond again over one of our favorite things to bond over, Housewives. So we had a few glasses of wine and, and ripped some Housewives. And so she was, she's been traveling for a few weeks, so she hasn't seen the last few episodes. So we watched three episodes before this. When I tell you how obvious it is what Heather's doing, especially when you know what's going on now. And then when you watch all the episodes leading up to this, and if you think about the whole season of what she's been doing, what she does kind of every season, which has been the whole season Heather's been going, you know, I just love Lisa so much. But we all know Lisa and we know what Lisa does. She spreads stories. She digs up the dirt. She just digs up the dirt and then she brings the dirt. But it's always you guys bringing the dirt and then blaming Lisa. But she's been laying the foundation for this the whole season. Very clearly in every episode. I don't know what Lisa's laying the dirt about, but it's something. And, oh, it's Bronwyn. It must have been Lysa. I mean, it's just so heavy handed what she's been doing the whole time. And then we were watching the episode, I guess it was last week when they were confronting Bronwyn when Bronwyn comes to the lunch table. And Whitney's like, yeah, but how are you, Bronwyn? And so they start asking her, and it's Heather who's grilling her with every single question. Okay, well, this one, this arrest was this time. But then you had this other charge and this was only four years. So what about this chart? So it was her with all the details. Lisa wasn't even asking anything she was just sitting there like, don't you guys have Twitter?
Ben
I think Heather just wants to extricate herself from the Lisa Barlow friendship. And not even because she doesn't like Lisa Barlow. I think she just knows that, like. Like, you've got to shake it up every few seasons and be like, okay, this is the season where we fight. This is the season where we are friends. And I think she's ready to extricate herself, but she doesn't want to be the bad guy. She doesn't want the narrative of, like, Heather and I were totally friends, and then suddenly she stopped being friends with me. So she has been slowly building a narrative of, like, I'm trying to be friends to this lady, but I'm having these nagging doubts that I don't want to believe, and I'm giving her every opportunity to prove me wrong, and all she does is prove me right.
Ronnie
And it's terrible.
Ben
But I'm going to have to reluctantly leave this friendship. Like, that's what she's building up towards. And I kind of wish you'd be like, Heather, just. Just feud.
Ronnie
Just chill. My God, just chill. And I also think she's addicted to the fame she got from the Monica thing. Like, I have just uncovered a huge scandal. I am the new detective of Bravo. And so now she wants to find some new mystery that she can get to the bottom of every year. It's like, she's now in charge of whoever's been talking to the blogs, you know, so that's her big thing. Like, well, this season, we're going even closer in our investigations. We're going to our own scene. Sisters.
Ben
Yeah. I think that's. There's. There's a little bit of an element of trying to chase the high of that season four finale. And. And that's. It'll be like that. That was a generational finale. We're not going to see that up for another, like, 10 or 15 years.
Ronnie
Yeah. So stop trying every single season to have another thing. And then Hannah's main question, I think, for the. For the episodes we watched was, what are the teeth? I guess because we're. She's not used to watching on such a giant tv. And Heather and Britney, I mean, those twin teeth coming out at you on HD is. Is something else.
Ben
It's given a little bit of, like, doc from the Muppets. So Whitney is like, wow, you were down on that pad in the water for a long time. I know. And I just kept saying, listen, this is where we're at but she just said, I didn't do it. She just kept on saying it. So we see a flashback of them on the Naughty Boys, which is what those are called. I feel like I have to explain things to the non below deck watchers because, like, we know the lingo. We sort of are like yachties at this point. So they're on the Naughty Boys. And Lisa's like, I'm going home. I'm going the distance all the way to Utah. And Heather's like, you're not going home, Lisa Barlow, don't you ever ask me to admit something I would never do. But, like, I think you're the source of the dirt, Lisa, and I love it. Heather says it like, like I'm being just a good friend to you right now, that this is what I honestly feel. And, like, I'm being honest, aren't I a good friend? By accusing you of this thing that, like, probably just came from Reddit. Instead, she's like, yeah, I think you.
Ronnie
Feed it and then you keep your hands clean. And she's like, no, I would never fucking do that. How would I even fucking know that? Because everyone tells you everything. Which so what? So what? So people come to me to gossip. So how does that make me the originator of the gossip? I don't know. This is Housewives. We're allowed to gossip. Leave me alone. And she's like, I didn't leak at. I never leaked stuff. Like, why am I blamed for everything? And she's like, because you know what? If I have a question about anything, I come to you, Lisa, because you know that. Okay, so what, are you mad at Wikipedia now too?
Ben
Heather is trying to do some funky manipulation here where she's like, look, if I have a question or any. Anything I want advice from, I go to you. And I don't know why you're shying away from that. It's a good thing that everyone wants to give you their privileged information and then that you spread it to the media. That's actually shows how much people trust you. Heather's. Heather's. The way she keeps skewing this, it's actually, like, reprehensible. But I find it to be so funny because it's so shameless. And I really do believe, and this is not any sort of bias towards anything or anyone. I really do believe that in this case, I do believe this was just stuff that, like, fellow Internet sleuths have dug up. I just don't think that Lisa Barlow found this information. I think that she's just Getting blamed for it because she doesn't know how to handle. She doesn't know how to handle herself in these situations. She always acts so guilty all the time.
Ronnie
Yeah, because really, the accusation is, okay, if Lisa leaked it to the blogs, then the accusation there is that Lisa went and looked up all of this information, Right? Like, got a PR person or whatever. Or is the accusation that she heard it from somebody. She heard it from one blogger in a DM and then leaked it to another blogger. I mean, I just don't understand even the accusation. But it is pretty funny watching Heather just totally commit to gaslighting, being like, but all you have to do is admit it. Listen, I'm saying. Saying that you're talented enough to be a mayor. A mayor of Betrayal Town. Okay? So you. You betray your sisters. It's not that big of a deal. We've all got our quirks.
Ben
All she had to do was admit it. Or say she was sorry for things she's done in the past or that she was going to make efforts moving forward. But she refused to even give us bullshit lines to get us to quiet down. She refused to do anything. She refused to be honest. And that definitely changed our dynamic in this sisterhood. My fingers going back and forth.
Ronnie
Yeah. So Whitney's like, well, but what do you do when someone. But we know that they're doing it, but then they say they're not doing it, Then what do you do?
Ben
Yeah. Do you mean to say keep score on every single thing in our lives? You want to take that line from the top with.
Ronnie
What do you do when someone says a score, but then you're like, what? What game is on?
Ben
Okay, no, no, we're gonna use the metaphorical heap. Score. Why don't give it another try with.
Ronnie
Stop bullying me just because I have red hair.
Ben
Yeah, you just would deny and deny and deny, and then after that, you deny and deny, and then you're like, Lisa and she just denies and deny and deny and deny and deny. Okay, Whitney, we. We get it. Oh, sorry. Like, what do you do at that point?
Ronnie
You just reframed the friendship, because you can never be true friends. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a grappens commercial.
Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ronnie
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Ronnie
So then we go to Lisa and Meredith and they're in bed and, you know, Meredith's trying to sleep and Lisa is just, you know, going crazy while she's scrolling through her phone, like aggressively, you know, doing the like nervous scrolling where you're just so mad. You're like, oh, my God. Everyone's parties that you weren't invited to, just scrolling past and she's like, literally, literally, like, you know what I did last night? I learned like a lot about who people are. And it's fucking ugly. Like, nobody would have something to like, nobody one would, you know, why would you say admit it. Like, that's not even a question. That's not a friendship. It's. It's where it is. You know what? I can't take anymore. You know, and everyone's saying, like, I'm just hoping everyone wakes up. And it's like, I was awful to my friend. I was awful to them. Like, you, Meredith, I hope you have a dream and remember how awful. What are you talking about me? I did try to stand up for you.
Ben
Meredith just has her mask on. She's like. Takes it up. She puts it on her head. She's like, what do you. What do you think? I said, lisa, I didn't use your words, but I. Because I don't speak like you, but I gave them the same message, which is that when they were attacking you, I shrugged and said, well, I don't know about that. Which I think was a very strong defense of you.
Ronnie
When they came after you, I said, well, there are only so many coincidences. That's all. I thought it was basically, you know, a. A stump speech for you, so I don't know why you're upset.
Ben
I basically said, well, I'll have to think this over later today at the Mommy Me screening I'm having with my toddler when we go and see some movie at the multiplex. Haven't chosen the one just yet, but keep an eye out for what my review will be. Sorry.
Ronnie
Yeah, but you know what? It's like a different level of, like, you know, respect and, like, support. So, like, you're just giving me, like, a different level of support than I need. Okay? Like, I need, like, a better level of support.
Ben
Don't tell me I don't support you, okay? I'm sitting here and I'm trying. Did I not tell you to open up the hangar so the airport could come in with some food last night? And did you open up the hangar? No, you didn't. I have to ground my plane. I did. And it's not fair to the people on that plane that they didn't have a hangar to land in, if you know what I'm saying. So I'm the only one who's trying, and you're yelling at me, and that makes me angry and it hurts me.
Ronnie
Yeah. So we go to Bronwyn getting a. Getting her Dr. Pepper on board with high stress. Daisy. I just love watching, like, how Daisy's always so stressed. Like, she's always. She's always kind of, like, moving back and forth on her feet, like she's ready to run, you know, like, it's a very high intensity, like, war going on. She's always, like, watching a bird. They're walking. They're walking down the hall. Captain. They're walking down the hall. Captain. Here they come. Calm down.
Ben
You know, like, when birds walk around because they're, like, so used to flying, but then when they walk around on the ground, they're always so skitterish, like, but they're, like, looking for, like, maybe that bread, and they're like, gotta go. And then they fly Off. That's like Daisy looking for my breadcrumb, can't find it. She's just so.
Ronnie
She's just so high intensity. Even when she comes into the room to ask for food stuff, she's like, mary, Mary. Hi there, Mary. It's me, Daisy. Okay, so you don't want shrimp, but he's gonna do Oahu. Is that okay for you? That's a white fish. Is that all right? All right, that's all right. All right. That's all right. All right, I'll get on. So get on the wahoo emergency. But I got that done in time.
Ben
So Bronwyn's saying it's just like, well, I slept on the deck last night because things aren't good with Britney and me. She's mad at me for telling everybody what she said when we went shopping. And I'm irritated with her for running her mouth in general, which is funny because it was Bronwyn just last year who was being shady, Talking with Heather, etc. And then Heather was like, I'm gonna put Bronwyn on blast for all the stuff that she was saying behind everyone's back in that car ride. And then Brahm was like, I was just being shady. And now Brittany tries to do it, and Prominent just steps into the Heather role and outs her. The difference is that Bronwyn is like. I mean, sorry. Britney is like a hilarious punching bag. And so she just. They just. They just do this to her all over and over again. But it's nice to see that Bronwyn has no memory of the hell that she went through last season.
Ronnie
She doesn't even have a memory of what she went through this season with all the charges. She. I mean, she started this whole season being like, lisa Barlow, you want to talk about. You want to talk about charges? You know, look at Lisa. Look at Lisa Barlow. And everything she's going through and all the money she owes, she's already forgotten that. Even. So now we see. We see a flashback to Bronwyn and Brittany getting ready for bed, and Brittany being like, you know, if this is how we're gonna sleep, this is gonna be really hard for me to sleep. And she's like, you know what? I'm gonna go sleep outside then, because I'm gonna go sleep on one of those chairs upstairs. And Brittany, I do not need this, Britney. I do not need this from you. So I will not sleep with you. I won't do it.
Ben
So Brahman's like, yeah, pool chair. Shockingly enough, it's not. It's not the most comfortable bed in the smack yacht that we're on, but whatever. I got rained on. So then we see Brittany. I'm sorry, Whitney. And Brittany and Heather and Angie. And they're on the mid deck patio. And Angie, who has just suffered through a day of puking, is like. Like, hello, Opa. I feel like I missed out on such a great night. Luckily, today will be wonderful. No more puking, and my hands will be fully intact by the end of the evening. Opa.
Ronnie
And then Lisa just comes out. She's like, oh, wow, look who's back from the dead.
Ben
Hi.
Ronnie
And then everyone just stares at her like, oh, my God, Lisa's here. And they just all pause, and it's like, what?
Ben
What?
Ronnie
You guys? She just, like, sits there, stares at them, playing with their. With her hair. You know what? I'm gonna go check on breakfast. I'm gonna go check on sisterhood breakfast. So. Because we are women. Women deserve breakfast.
Ben
Can I come? I want to see if there's any moussaka on the menu. I need to find something in the kitchen. I've got to get juice or something or, I don't know, do my hair or something or another. Let me out of here.
Ronnie
And I need to change into a swimsuit. I'm gonna go, too. Oh, you're already in a swimsuit. I'm gonna go changing. I'm gonna go change into a suit. Swimming. I'll be back, too. Lisa's like, okay. Really obvious. Really obvious, you guys. So they all mean girl her. And then Britney, she's left alone with Britney. Britney comes out. And of course, Britney's question is, well, are we good, though? Are we good? Not mad at me, right?
Ben
Does anyone like me? No. No. I'm like, I'm totally. God. Like, I'm totally like, fine. Like, I would tell you if we weren't good, right? And if we weren't good, I would either tell you or just, like, tell a whole bunch of other people first. Okay, so Brittany's like, are you still mad at Heather? Listen, I talked to Heather. I love Heather. I love that, and I love Heather. But what happened last night is, like, not okay. It's like, not okay.
Ronnie
Yeah, but the thing that really bugs me is Bromlin and I were in a really good spot. This isn't about you, Brittany.
Ben
Jesus.
Ronnie
So she's like, bromlin and I were in a really good spot. I mean, like, we never hung out. She asked to go shopping with her, and then she uses everything against me, and then we See a clip of that where stupid Britney's trying on clothes. And Brom was just like, and how do you feel about Meredith? Okay. And how do you feel about Lisa? Hater. Okay. Okay, got it.
Ben
Yeah, got it, got it. So Britney's like, I mean, she posted out of me, like, ooh, I'll be nice to you and you just. So you can tell me things, then use it against me. Okay, yeah, Britney, like, she did it to you before and like, you are responsible for you. And the bottom line is, like, I've never done anything to Bronwyn and she, like, lied about me when it came to the grandpa hunts and all last year, she let people think I heard her daughter and she asked me to do something, and then that turned on my.
Ronnie
And by the way, Bronwyn can hear all of this because she's like, sitting there with her Dr. Pepper upstairs, but she can hear everything that they're saying. So Brittany's like, wait, she asked you to reach out to the family? She goes, yes, she asked me to meet with the grandparents and to facilitate. It's in writing. It's in writing. Dismiss. Dismissed. And we see the text from Bronwyn to Lisa, which says, hi, and Gwen and I talked. Uh huh. Nodding emoji. And if you, you know what? If you wouldn't mind reaching out to them and explaining that this came up. You know, G is willing to meet if they are. I'm so sorry to put you in the middle, but I know you are. You offered. And maybe it's the best way to approach them. Heart emoji, nodding emoji, nodding emoji, nodding emoji, nodding emoji. And Lisa responds with, I'm happy, Tao. I'm happy to.
Ben
So then Angie and Mary are joining Brahman on the upper deck. And Angie's like, hello, is this where you slept? No way. You really slept up here? And she's like, yeah, but we should move because if you want to talk shit about people, this is just a teeny, tiny little boat. And Britney and Lisa are talking loud about me downstairs. So to ensure that they have some privacy while they talk shit about me. Yeah. Oh yeah, I can hear. Hear every fucking word. Those two loudmouths just said that they mentioned grandparents and they mentioned Gwen. And I am livid now.
Ronnie
And maybe we should go over here so they can't hear me talking shit about them. Because I, you know, I'm gonna go talk shit about them. But it's different because I'm doing it over in this section.
Ben
I'm not doing it where.
Ronnie
I was just drinking a Dr. Pepper, okay?
Ben
They're doing it on my. Can you believe they're talking shit about me on my very own bed? Like, the chair.
Ronnie
They come into my home. They come into my home to talk shit about me. So they go sit with her. And then Angie's like, why did you move out of your room? She's like, oh, my God, Brittany. Same shit with Brittany. I mean, I just. I reached out to Brittany. I said, let's go shopping. She told me Meredith has seizures and crashes out and screams at her. And then she gets furious with me because I threw her under the bus. But then she says, I don't want to sleep with you. And I said, okay, well, you know what? I don't particularly want to sleep in our room either, so have fun sleeping next to a blowup shark. You.
Ben
Yeah, you're vomiting. Everyone else is screaming at each other. And, I mean, it's just like. It's just the fucking truth. Angie, you were vomiting for 18 hours. By the way, just to clarify again, in Britney's feeble defense, she did not say Meredith was having seizures. She said Meredith gets so mad. It's like a seizure of emotion or whatever. It was like a seizure. But she didn't say that Meredith is having seizures. And Bronwyn totally misrepresented that. But on. In a way, I'm glad, because then we had, last week, Meredith. They're like, there are people in my.
Ronnie
Family who had a seizure, including my child. How dare you talk about my child?
Ben
Seizures are not inherently funny, but this show somehow made them funny.
Ronnie
So, yeah, now Bronwyn's all mad that they were talking shit about her, you know, on the. On the deck or whatever. So then Meredith and. Meredith. Meredith, Heather and Whitney join them. And now people are starting to feel seasick again because it's swaying a lot. So Lisa. Lisa comes out and she's trying to start kind of a new day. She's like, okay, guys, I might want some bracelets. And everyone just looks at her like, oh, my God, gross. Lisa Barlow's here. So then Heather's like, okay, guys, I think that today we should have a little break and have some fun. Today's an island adventure. We're gonna go to the Tobago Key and we're gonna snorkel swim. This is a chance for us to disembark and, you know, just have zombie night. So let's have a great day today, okay? What are you announcing? That you need a positive day. You're the one who's starting fights.
Ben
I know, and I love the idea of, like, hey, guys, let's just. Let's. Let's not fight today. Let's go have a zombie night instead. That. That'll solve everything. So Angie's like, I don't know if the yacht life is for me. Let's see. And Heather's like, well, you're getting your sea legs. Or as I call them, your sisterhood legs.
Ronnie
So, yeah. So then Bronwyn's like, hey, listen, if you're, you know, can I just come stay in your room tonight, Mary? And Mary's like, no, absolutely not. She goes with, that's a crowd. Two is a company. Three is the crowd. Three. That's three people that might make fun of my farts. And it takes me a lot of time to open up to somebody.
Ben
And he's like, I mean, you can still sleep with me. I'm not going to hurt you. You're not going to hurt me. It's fine. She's like, I'm not interested in sleeping in a bed. Then maybe you brought one of the crew into. And she's like, what? Yeah, because last time I saw you up here, you were trying to get one of the crew to come downstairs with you. And she's like, no, I wasn't. And we see the clip of Britney flirting with Captain Jason. I was like, bronwyn, she is just flirty. And she's no more flirty. In fact, she's significantly less flirty than Heather is with Captain Jason. And this is crazy. I'm sorry. This is. Is a crazy character assassination on our sweet Shantu Britney.
Ronnie
Well, she would have. I mean, Britney would have bragged about it. First of all, it wouldn't be such a slam. It's only a slam to Bronwyn. She's like, trying to sl. Shame. You can't shame the shameless, okay? Britney's like, really? Someone came to my room. Who was it? Was I there? Why didn't anybody tell me they were in my room? Would have been in there. Who were they? Tell me who they are. I'll get them right now. I'll get them right now. But she's like, I didn't get laid. And then we see Captain Jason debuffing her advances. And she's like, yeah. Did you or did you not tell Captain Jason I'd love to get out of here? Got her. Got her.
Ben
She's like, no. She's like, well, I mean, the girls were saying, he is coming out of your room last night to me, I don't know.
Ronnie
They're terrible.
Ben
But then it turns out. But then Britney's like, why are you even talking to me? I don't know. That's a bad idea.
Ronnie
It's like, why are you even talking to me? Meredith. Yes, Brittany.
Ben
Brittany's saying that he was there to fix the ac, which is not really the captain's duty. But we do see a flashback that she's in her room, and she's. She has a toothbrush brush in her mouth, which is sort of suggested. And she's like, it's really hot in here. I don't know. Am I not doing the AC correctly? It's something I need a captain to help me with. He's like, all right, it. Let's see what's in here. Oh, I see the problem. You've got your AC wrapped up in a kimono. I'll just take that off and bring it back to my quarters. Thank you.
Ronnie
You, too can have a kimono of Captain Jason kimono at home for only $400. Visit kimono.com. what's this kimono company again? I forgot. We looked it up.
Ben
I don't remember.
Ronnie
I sometimes forget 400 kimono. I was like, girl, this kimono's gonna blow me. I don't think so, sir.
Ben
I know. I forget sometimes that our Real Housewives audience may not be familiar at all with the fact that Captain Jason is a fan of kimonos and sells them, but, yeah, he loves them. He loves a kimono.
Ronnie
Okay, so then we see him come to check her air conditioning. And no. No sexual stuff happened. And when he left, she was still standing there with her toothbrush hanging out of her mouth. So she's like, no one was in our room last night. Just my little unicorn and me. Good night, baby. You are loved.
Ben
Loved.
Ronnie
So Jared Osmond, tm.
Ben
I'm a soldier of love. Like Uncle Donnie saying. So Lisa is saying, okay, guys, enough with the pylon, okay? Captain Jason's not interested. It's, like, dumb, right? Like, back me up on this. Daisy. Daisy. Daisy. Okay. Why is she running around so much? Okay, Daisy, come on. Is he interested? Say no. Say hard no. Hard no. Daisy. She's like, I have no idea. Honestly, I just try not to pay attention to anything the guys do on these boats anymore.
Ronnie
Yeah, but it's, like, ridiculous. You know what? I want to stand up for my friend Britney because, like, nobody wants to sleep with Brittany. Am I right? Like, nobody wants to sleep with her. You know what? If I was Captain Jason, I wouldn't want my name dragged through the mud as someone who slept with Britney. I mean, look at her, right? Brittany, I'm sticking up for you. She's like, geez, this is a.
Ben
This just invites Bronwyn to do her signature head nod, slash adjust the sunglasses a little closer to her eyes, set up to go, oh, come on. I can't even sit on the deck without hearing you and Brittany talking shit about me downstairs, saying, I'm a snake. I've done this to Brittany before. I've done it to you. Bringing up my fucking daughters and grandparents again. How could you do that?
Ronnie
Oh, God, here we go. How dare you bring up my daughter. How dare you. All she said was, what happened? And for those of you who don't remember what happened last year, Bronwyn had this whole storyline about the grandparents of her daughter and how they mistreated her and this and that. Lisa knows the grandparents, so she had a really nice scene with Lisa where she talked about it and they brought up the fact that they could all reconcile. And then Bronwyn texted Lisa and said, yeah, you know what? It would be great if you told them that we talked about this and maybe we can reconcile. And then Lisa does contact the grandparents. And then Bronwyn brings up on camera like, you betrayed me by going to the grandparents. You completely betrayed me. How dare you do this to my daughter. And totally mis. Presented. Misrepresented that. Which she does everything on this show. And now she's mis. Misrepresenting what she heard again to make it sound like Lisa's sitting down there talking about her daughter.
Ben
I do think that there's a good amount of misresenting on this show, too, where people mising things. Don't misresent me. Stop yelling at me. Stop yelling at me. You are the queen of yelling at people. So do not talk about my child or her grandparents. Again. We had this agreement, and so we see them at, like, the. The Vita Tequila Premiere Lounge, and where they're agreeing, like Lisa says, I will never mention again. Full stop. Full stop. So Brahman's like. And then you're standing on the back of the boat saying it to Britney. She's like, yeah, I did say it to Brittany. I did. I did. Yeah, yeah, everyone. Yeah, I did. Yeah. Ah, thank you. Thank you. Stop talking about my child. I'm not talking about your child. I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about your child.
Ronnie
Ah, you know what? Stop talking about it, because I swear to God, I'm standing up now. And if you can't agree to not talk about people's kids, okay? This is deflecting. Sit down. Just sit down. No, you're deflecting.
Ben
You're deflecting. Mary's like, this would be great time for Angie to go ahead and get back sick. Because then we could go back to that quiet space and just be quiet. That'd be great.
Ronnie
Why do they. Why do they keep misusing the word deflecting? She's not deflecting. She's saying. Yeah, I said that. She's like, you're deflecting. No, I said it. You are deflecting. Yep, I said it. I don't think they know what deflecting means. So then Lisa's like, you know what? Okay, I don't want to say anything about anyone's kids. I try really hard to do the right thing, okay? And Angie's like. Like, bullshit. You know what you do? You dig up dirt on people, Greek or not, and you talk about them behind their Greek backs, and you pretend to be their friend. And even just a few weeks ago, you were talking about Bronwyn with your hair over your face like this, saying, yeah, Todd was making out with one of my friends while farting the entire time. She's like, wait, wait. You know what? I didn't say it was one of my friends. I didn't say I was one of my friends.
Ben
If you're gonna gossip about me, get the full story. Right? I told a waiter who wasn't even a friend.
Ronnie
Are you fucking kidding me, Lisa?
Ben
Angie said no. You said one of my hot friends. No, because she's not that hot. She's actually one of my ugly friends. Sorry, you got the wrong friend. Tell the story right next time.
Ronnie
Let me back up. About a month ago, Lisa had her charity luncheon. Her clarity luncheon. Sorry. Where she kissed all of our athes. And so we see that. And Lisa toasting. You know what? I love each and every one of you. Even when I'm mad at you. Like, I still love you. I still do. You guys, hold on. Let me comb my finger with two finger. My hair with two fingers. Let me comb it. And Angie's like. And then we went to dinner at her club. So we sat there, and then she pulled her hair over her face like this and said, todd was making out with one of my friends while farting the entire time.
Ben
I love the need to include the farting part too. Like, the Todd is making out with one of my friends is, like, a pretty big bomb to drop. And then she's like. And I'm also going to add that he farted the entire time, I guess is the thing this season.
Ronnie
Laughing so fudgeing hard at this. And I'm just imagining Todd at home. Great. I told him not to go on this cruise to talk shit about me and Lisa Barlow. Now you've got this. Greek ones and a far while I make out with secretaries.
Ben
First of all, they were silenced but deadly, so you can't trace it back to me.
Ronnie
So I don't really know if it.
Ben
Came from me in the first place. Okay. And second of all, my doctor doctor did say I have to check my hearing. So maybe we'll circle back to point number one. But the point is you don't know what Werther's due to a man's digestive system.
Ronnie
Hey, you know what I gotta say to you, Angie? The one who smelled it nailed it.
Ben
Is it part. The one who denied it supplied it, though.
Ronnie
Did you just eat my cherry? Well, sorry about that. It was a bad one.
Ben
Who did the rhyme, committed the crime? Is it possible that Lisa's friend said, oh my God, I just made out with an old fart. Is it possible that that's what happened? Oh, my God, she was making out with Todd and he was farting the whole time.
Ronnie
I just think that's so Todd to be making out. Like.
Ben
Hold on, let me check my notifications on my Palm Pilot, see if anything came in. So. So. And just like, I didn't want to tell Brahman, especially like this, but Lisa coming across like she's a good friend and always tries to do the right thing. It's just I couldn't hold it back any longer because I am Greek.
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Ronnie
So now I've thrown somebody else's marriage under the bus. So Bronwyn's like, wait, but you said he made out with someone. I mean, fuck you. You were dead to me, Lisa. You were dead. She's like, oh, my God. You know what? I grew up in New York, so I. No. And you know what? It came from someone that I believe and I trust, so I believe that it happened. And you know what? I repeated what I heard to Angie, and now we know Angie's not a trustworthy bitch. And you know what? I'm never gonna do that again. And so Bron was like, you never say you're wrong. I mean, just admit it. And she goes, I was wrong to say that about Todd. But you were wrong to talk about Gwen, so don't talk about my family. Okay, but you know what? Okay, then I was wrong. Okay, well, you were wrong. Why didn't you ever say you were wrong? Okay, but I was wrong. I'm sorry. You never say you're wrong. Stop defle. But I was wrong, Lisa. You need to say you were wrong when you were wrong. But I was wrong. You see, you're arguing with me now. Lisa, just confess.
Ben
This has nothing to do with me believing this rumor or being worried about this rumor, because of course, I. Well, I. I don't believe he was making out with someone. I do believe he was farting. But this proves that Lisa is spreading rumors about me and Todd's farting, and she's never going to stop trying to eviscerate every aspect of my life. So you know what? We're done. Todd. Todd, I'm trying to do my confessional.
Ronnie
Well, sorry, I can't just sit on it the whole time. I'm not a hen. Oh, wow.
Ben
So Lisa goes, do you repeat, Angie? Do you repeat all of our conversations? And Mary's like, if someone told me my husband was making out with someone when farting, I don't know which one I'd be more devastated about. I mean, both of it's just embarrassing. I mean, what's wrong with his intestines? Why is he farting? Oh, my God, something's wrong. I'm like, mary, you're not one to talk. You saw last. You saw two episodes ago.
Ronnie
How dare you bring up my farting? How dare you? How dare you? Also, you're married to your grandpa. I'm sure he farts a lot. Please. So Heather's like, we need to put a pin in this and get off the boat. And Lisa's like, oh, my God, you know, but don't tell anything to Angie. Geez, you can't even talk about somebody making out with somebody and farting the whole time. It's like, crazy. What kind of world are we living in? And Angie's like, no, do not talk about your friends like that. That's the lesson.
Ben
That is the lesson. Celis goes. You say the meanest things. Don't say horrible shit about your friends. You say horrible shit. You do. Angie, I feel sorry for you, for real. I feel so sorry for you.
Ronnie
Okay, I'd also like to point out that that was pre makeup, right? Because they went to that lounge and had that party when Lisa talked shit about Bronwyn before Bronwyn and her made up and agreed to not talk about each other. So that doesn't fall into the same agreement. That was later.
Ben
That's fair. That's fair.
Ronnie
Wasn't that the second time? That was the first time that we saw the Vita Tequila Lounge. And then the second time was when they had their meeting when Lisa was in her pajamas. And that's when they, you know, you're right, you're right. So whatever. So then we go to Bronwyn in her bed, and she hears an echo of Todd's voice, like, hey, did someone smell something? I don't. Thank God my nose doesn't work. I'll tell you who's feeling something. Those beans jumping around my tummy. Was it a fiesta going on down there? This is the Cinco de Mayo.
Ben
It's on. It's unclear to me why you want to spend time with these people. Don't come home complaining that you and Lisa got to do with. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Ronnie
I should have known this was coming because Todd knew this was coming. I mean, not the farting while he was making out with somebody. Bart. But yeah, he knew. And Lisa got exactly what she wanted. She wanted to get under my skin. She wanted to hurt my family. And I'm realizing there's no way for me to be in the same room as Lisa and not veer into this person. I don't respect myself. I'm the kind of person who will wear a blow up dinosaur costume. That's a person that's respectable. And you know what would make Lisa mad right now? If I had fun. So I'm gonna have fun. I'm gonna have so much fun.
Ben
I, I, you know, I, I really adore Bronwyn, but I have to say, this whole narrative of, like, Lisa Just wanted to get under my skin. You eavesdropped on Lisa just having a Kiki moment with Britney. And then Lisa didn't even bring up this Todd thing. It was Angie who. Who aired it in front of the table. Not to be a Lisa apologist or anything, but like. Like, Lisa was getting to the point.
Ronnie
Where you have to. If you're watching the show, you have to be a Lisa apologist in a way, because she's not doing it. She's terrible at defending herself. And these people are crazy. Like, the two things Bronwyn is really the most upset about are things that Lisa didn't even bring up. She didn't bring up Bronwyn's stuff. Everybody else brought up. I mean, she.
Ben
Lisa was messy as hell to say that at the club. Like you said, though, it happened on the heels of them bickering earlier in that day. But also. But they did. They did sort of have a little bit of a. A. A truce at the end of that luncheon. But either way, it's not like Lisa brought up at the table to confront Bron. She wasn't. She didn't say, like, well, Bronwyn, this is what I heard. So she wasn't. Lisa wasn't trying to get under Broman's skin. Bronwyn kind of went sniffing for this fight, if you ask me, and she wanted to make it a fight. I. I understand her grand. The grandparents and Gwen are a trigger for her, but, yeah, this was. I don't really think that Lisa was actively trying to upset Brahman here. I think she just got caught because Lisa was messy. She got caught these things.
Ronnie
Yeah, she got caught gossiping for sure. Talking, but she didn't say it on camera. Guess who brought it to camera? Angie. Yeah, you know, but they still. It's like they all bring it on camera, and then they blame Lisa for. And I'm not even saying Lisa didn't talk to a million people about all the stories with Bronwyn. I'm just saying, like, in what worlds do we not care about stories about the housewives? Like, everybody else got to show up in griller. Why are they not digging for things? You know, that's just so crazy. So they go to Tobago, and Angie's, like, kissing the sand. It's like fun and games time. Lisa, Mary, and Meredith are lounging, and then Angie is talking. So Angie sees Bronwyn coming out of the water, and she's like, what's your face, Bronwyn? I just want you to know I feel really bad. My Heart went out to you today, and I feel like I probably haven't been as supportive of you as I should have. And I tried to stand up to her about what she was saying about Todd. Sorry I haven't been more supportive. Glad I could be more supportive after I brought the story of your husband cheating and farting on to national tv. Hope you enjoyed that. I did it for you.
Ben
Well, I regret that I yelled and screamed and lost my mind. Don't. Don't. We all thought it was hilarious, so. No, but I do. I don't regret what I said, and I don't take it back. Okay. I think the only way you're gonna get her to stop talking about your daughter and the situation and the grandparents is to be as stern as you were today. Fight some more. Go ahead. She's right over there.
Ronnie
She's like, well, I really try to be quick, like, you know, what did I do wrong? What's my part in this? You know, focus on myself. That's how you do it, you know? But she's over here getting a massage. I mean, she's not sorry about. Oh, God. When she's supposed to cry because her husband farted while he was making out with some secretary. Let the woman get her massage. Get off.
Ben
She's like, I thought we were on break. I thought we're. I thought we're on housewives penniness break. I'm getting my massage now before we fight tonight. So Heather and Whitney and Bronwyn are snorkeling, and Mary and Lisa are sunbathing. And Lisa's like, I don't know if you heard me and Meredith this morning, but we had, like, a really direct conversation where I was like, hey, it bothers me because, like, I know, like, you know that I know that you know that I would never feed stuff to the blob. Hugs. And, like, I wish you had just said, like, hey, Lisa would never do that. Like, Donna, kids are doing that, you know? So then Mary's like, well, what'd she say? She's like, well, I think she feels like she's set in her own way. And I just. They're just talking about this conversation. And then, of course, Meredith comes sort of sauntering over, like, hello, Hello. This reminds me of making sand castles with my toddlers last year on this beach. What are you guys talking about?
Ronnie
And so Lisa's trying to talk, but Meredith's right there. So she's like, okay, I guess I got to bring Meredith. And so she's like, okay, Meredith. Okay, you Know, Okay, I was talking about this morning, like, you know what? Like how I, you know, you've told her you support me in private, and she's like, yeah, well, I do. I support you privately and publicly both, Lisa. Okay. I just think that it's what everyone is so interested in, how you and I engage with each other. That's nothing. But whatever.
Ben
America's. It's not wild. It's bizarre. That's what it is, is it's bizarre how you defend her. And Mary's like, lily, I don't feel like Meredith doesn't stick up for Lisa. Like, she just doesn't. And if Lisa is really her friend, then Meredith should, like, probably speak up and, like, help her out. Like, wow, can you believe I'm actually taking for Lisa Barlow? Like, God help me. Yeah.
Ronnie
But you know what? I do a good job of standing up for myself. Like, the way I cry and scream and then, like, you know, I deny things, like, histrionically. But, you know, there's sometimes I'm like, you know what? Tap in. You know what I mean? Like, I need to tap in. Nerd up. Like, I need you to top out.
Ben
Don't condone violence. I will be not tapping anything. And I will support you if I agree with you. You know, I would never ask someone to help me slice a lemon if they didn't like, l Man. So I would not help that you hope that I. You respect my boundaries. And if I don't agree, I'm not going to defend you, Lisa. Simple as that.
Ronnie
Yeah, and I do support you. And you want to keep talking about us if everyone wants to. To keep talking, like, okay, okay, calm down. Your head's going to pop off.
Ben
Okay, I'm done with the conversation. I'm not. I'm sick of this. N. I don't want.
Ronnie
Yeah, but you know what? Tap in, though. Like, dismissed. Like, tap in. You know, like, I don't know why you're getting so upset. Like, I've been such a good friend to you.
Ben
I've been a great friend to you. Like, the other day I defended you by saying, we'll just have to see. And I thought that was a very bold and outspoken defense of you.
Ronnie
And Mary's like, yeah, but she's telling you that there's an issue in your guys friendship, and she doesn't feel like you take up for her, and that's just how she feels. So she's like, well, if that's the case, then I'm sorry.
Ben
Well, I mean, you have to respect her feelings.
Ronnie
What would you like me to do, Mary? Okay, do you want me to go do cartwheels? About that? Is that what we're gonna do today? Cartwheels?
Ben
Boom. If you do that, you might fart a little bit too much. So you're not a good friend. Like go jump at the ocean. Go do something. Do something to prove Mary's like, jump in the ocean to show like you're not a good friend. Jump in the ocean.
Ronnie
Well, go do something. And she's like, oh, you go do something, honey. And she's like, you're boring.
Ben
Yeah, I think you're boring. I think.
Ronnie
Oh really? I do lots of interesting things. Very many interesting of things. Uhhuh.
Ben
Go. Go find a good story and then you can like, like that you can tell. Cuz like right now you're a snooze.
Ronnie
Well, see you later. Okay, see you later. She just gets up and walks off. So now it's Mary versus Meredith. Cuz you know Mary's going to turn this into a whole thing now.
Ben
Yeah. So now Whitney's getting a massage. Meredith is asking Whitney, br and Heather how the snorkeling was. And Heather's like, snorkeling with was amazing. I swam with the stingray. I was part of the stingray sisterhood for one moment and I felt their bond. And I could tell the way those stingrays had been persecuted by Mormonism. And I said, don't you worry. I have a new book coming out that's written exclusively in stingray called Bad Mormon Stingray Edition. Already a number one bestseller on the stingray times. Congratulations.
Ronnie
Me Bad Stingray by Heather Gay. It's just going to be me, topless, but with a stingray over my boobs.
Ben
They call me a Stingay. The Brahmin's like, yeah, it was fun. I kissed you. I have a drink now. So Meredith says, wow. Wait, you swam with a stingray? Did you really swim with a stingray? They have stingrays here. Well, I'm not amused by that.
Ronnie
So Heather and Bronwyn have bonded. Laughing in the water, she's like, wow, I can't believe I like Bronwyn now. I'm just embarrassed that it took me so long to stop being so stubborn. I really love her. It's amazing what a common enemy will bring. So they call Mike over, who's one of the stews, and she wants to play a game. And so he's like, shall we play Never have I ever. Shall we?
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Can we play draw some eyebrows on Mike, please?
Ben
I know Mike apparently has an only fans, or had an only fan. Someone wrote us that he. Guess he was on a dating show. He has an only fans. He has, like, a whole naked.
Ronnie
I think he did a show called.
Ben
That's what it was. Yeah. That's the whole backstory. So that's. That's for people who want to go look at. Look that up. There's a little activity for you. So he's also, like, the king of games, and he has a very strong accent. Is it a Welsh accent? I'm not sure. I'm, like, trying to be better about understanding where these accents come from. And, you know, I'm not gonna know.
Ronnie
Until we get the season of Below deck and we get his, like. Like, you know, trauma, where it's like, oh, it was when I was a little boy and my father first shaved me eyebrows. I know that I realized I needed to be on a boat, but I didn't know whether to clean or whether to deck. So now I do both. Thanks, Da. Thanks.
Ben
I've tried to understand the Welsh accent ever since I watched the season three of Traders, and there was that one girl who's like, I like to pretend to have a Welsh accent because people think it's cute. I trust me more. And I was like, it all sounds the same to me. So anyway, so Mary, they're gonna do some games. It's like, never have I ever. And never. I. I can't. I can't be bothered peeing in the ocean. Have you ever been in the ocean? What?
Ronnie
Never have I ever farted while making out with some secretary in New York City. Well, is that necessary, Ronnie? Is that necessary?
Ben
So I do some games, and then they have a game where they have to, like, kind of like. Like, that's a race, and they have to, like, like, run across the beach and then, like, chug some wine and then run the other way. And then Britney falls on her face, which, of course, is funny. Slapstick always works.
Ronnie
Bronwyn loves it. It's going to be her souvenir. It's that mental picture. And then Heather's like, whenever you can get us doing something physical and competing against each other as sisters, that is when we really shine.
Ben
Is it? So then they go back to the yacht and they get some rum punches, and Heather's like, oh, my God, I'd love drinks upon arrival. Rum punch. I would love one. Thank you. And Bronwyn's like, I want the same as Heather. Drinking buddies. We're friends now. Time to get ready for zombie Dinner, everyone.
Ronnie
So now Angie is having Michael blow dry her hair. So she's like, get in here and blow dry my hair. And then Captain and Daisy are in the mess and Daisy's like, wow, Heather said something about you having dessert with them because you missed last night. And she asked if you could sit topless having a dessert, could you do it? And he's. They just start laughing. He's like, oh, maybe I'll whip out a kimono tonight, ladies.
Ben
So Bronwyn, Br Mar and Angie are hanging out and they're putting on inflatable costumes. Bronwyn and Andrew are putting on inflatable costumes. And it's like blue choosing between those different things. It's like they're getting into it and just trying to put it on. This is kind of like behind the scenes of Summer House, I think. But like, she's putting. She's trying to get her face through it and she has a little like hood on her head just going through it. It's like, you know, it's like, it feels like it's just like a little. It is just a little fun and games thing. And Angie's like, it's like dressing up, baby. And so now they're sort of like semi inflated and they have to get out of the room. And so Angie's trying to get out of the room and she puts her hand like in the door frame, but the door closes on her finger while her finger's in there. And she's like, oh, Opa. And once again needs medical attention.
Ronnie
I can't even say Opa in the correct way. My finger hurts so badly, so it looks bad.
Ben
And she's like. So they. Basically she's. I think she has a broken finger, right? Or at least I don't know what's.
Ronnie
Going on with it, but nail something. Like she smushed her nail off or something so it's all bloody. And so Jason wraps her up. Brittany gets all jealous probably, and she's.
Ben
Like, it hurts all bad.
Ronnie
Yeah. So now everyone's getting ready for Zombie Night and Angie's getting her hair done by Mike and she's like, look at him, look at him. I've got him trained. He's never even done this. Wow. Would you like to come to Salt Lake, Michael? You're a born hairdresser. Don't worry, we won't try to make you sell fresh wolf again. Dusty. Dusty product.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
So then Bronwyn is. Is talking about how she overnighted some stuff from the uk. And guys, it's octopus Stuff weird jelly octopi to put on octopuses that you.
Ben
Can put, like, right on your forehead. So it looks like you're kind of, I guess, kind of like the. The bad guy in, like, Pirates of the Caribbean. It's like, oh, look at me. I'm a ghost from the deep that has an octopus stuck on his forehead. So she's putting this on, and Heather's like, oh, my God, look at this. This is amazing. They're dressing up and they're bonding like the sisters they always are. And Lisa is. Lisa, Meredith are getting ready. So they're all just getting ready, putting on blood, etc.
Ronnie
And Heather says, you guys wondering what's going on? What's going on this episode? Let's Heather narrate it. Heather narrates everything. She's like, why zombie night? Well, we love to dig up dirt on each other, and we love to resurrect old fights from the grave. We could do our own horror movie.
Ben
So then we see a spoof. It's like some post production fun about, like, it's a horror movie. And they're all, like, walking like zombies out to the dining table. Except Mary gets stuck with that glass door. They, like, have to stop the trailer, the fake trailer let her out. Then they start it up again.
Ronnie
So then they get drinks, but Mary's has lipstick on hers. And she's like, wait, what? What? Why does this have lipstick on it? Hey, hey, this. This isn't my lips. And he's like, I like his answer. He goes, that's all right. I'll bring you a new one. What are you telling her? It's all right for. I think you're the. You're. You're the apologizer Mike. I know. Where is it?
Ben
I'm sorry. Yeah.
Ronnie
He's like, I forgive you. I forgive you for having someone else's lips all over your glass. I'll remedy that for you.
Ben
You guys, how do we feel the crew did with our zombie theme? I might wonder, when would a hazmat balloon be appropriate? We all look amazing, sisters. And Mary's like, yeah, you're the only zombie that. I've smelled alcohol in their breath before. So they get food. They. They get some food that has some of Meredith's caviar on it. And. And Heather's saying that she hasn't checked in. She's like, has anyone checked in on the home front? I personally turned off my phone, and I have not checked in because the last thing I need is those bitches that I call my daughter Bothering me on this. Finally, some peace and quiet away from them. Am I right, everyone? High five to daughters, right?
Ronnie
I would have checked in, but I don't want my daughters to have my new number. So anybody else? Did you check in? And Bron was like, yep. I called Todd and Gwen, obviously, and, you know, they weren't exactly jazzed. Right. About my updates. Know what I mean, guys? And they're like, oh, my God. You told Heather's.
Ben
Like, you.
Ronnie
You said the thing about farting and the making out. And she goes, yeah, well, of course I did. I mean, why should I be ashamed to say it? I'm not the one who made it up. I didn't make it up, and I didn't fart on the secretary, so.
Ben
Well, what happened? Tell me. Well, I think Todd always feels like he's not really sure why he's a punchline here all the time. Like, why anybody's partner is a punchline here, you know? And I agree with that. I just really feel like Todd and Gwen need to be off limits. And. And it doesn't seem like that's something you can commit to, Lisa.
Ronnie
Which is why I'm bringing up Todd and Gwen again. Go ahead and say Todd and Gwen so I can say that you talked about my husband and my child. Go ahead. Go ahead, Lisa. I was like, gwen, okay, you know what? As of today, I will never, ever bring them up or in any capacity. You know what? Cause I will never, ever bring them up. And I'm so sorry I hurt your feelings and Todd's and Gwen's. Very sorry. Very sorry.
Ben
Well, America, I feel like it's disrespectful not to acknowledge when someone is speaking you, so I acknowledge that Lisa is speaking, and it is to me. Otherwise, those words mean nothing. Todd. No, I don't need the stinger on that one, Todd. I can. Thanks.
Ronnie
Yeah. But I didn't tell Angie anything with the intention for her to bring it to the group and humiliate Bronwyn, you know? Like, I don't hurt people, like, that way. Like, humiliation. No, no. I just tell them, like, I'm better than them usually. Or say Blake Lively's name a lot, you know, but I've never done. You know, I've never gone for that. Now. Okay, Like, I'll defend myself, but, you know, I don't try to go for, like, the Juggler. Like, you know what I can. And if you open the jar, I'll walk through the jar. But you know what? I just want it to be, like, status Quo. Because this is frustrating. It's frustrating.
Ben
I'm genuinely sorry if she's embarrassing her. So more food comes, and Heather's like, you guys, we need to do a zombie walk. Like, the boat is a rocking. Do you feel the rocking and rolling? Oh, my God. This is. Is crazy. Does anyone want a fake throw up? So then. Then basically Britney is like, oh, no, I don't feel well. So she goes to the edge of the boat where she allegedly throws up, but we don't see anything come out. We know that this show would show the vomit because they already showed lots of stuff spewing out of Angie's mouth. So I kind of feel like Britney wants to have like a I'm seasick too moment. So she goes over and she at least has a dry. A dry, dry heave over the side of the boat.
Ronnie
I buy it.
Ben
You do?
Ronnie
Yeah, I buy it. She looks terrible. She really is just like. She's like. Bronwyn's like, yeah. I mean, it's not zombie night until something comes back up from the grave. So Britney throwing up feels pretty on brand.
Ben
So Britney comes back, she. And she's like, I got a little seasick. Sorry. And then the crew brings out some tequila shots. So Britney starts sipping it, and Meredith is like, can I just sing something? I was a lawyer here and just would like to bring up up a matter of evidence. Why are you drinking tequila when you just threw up?
Ronnie
Because I'm trying to feel better, Meredith. That's why. She goes. They're like, give her a break. Yeah, why is it your business, Meredith? Why do you even care? She's like, well, is there anyone here who thinks that drinking vodka when you don't feel that.
Ben
Why, Are you the expert in vomiting? No, I'm not. But is there anyone at the table if. If. Listen, Brittany, you're about to make me go into my British accent very soon, so you better watch your mouth because I'm about to speak British. I'm about to speak British. Well, guess what? It's already happening now. I have a British accent. Broad day.
Ronnie
Well, I think that's her business. She wants to drink dogs, so she's just drinking dog hairs.
Ben
No hair. Hair of the dog. Like, you know, Angie's a hairdresser. The dog has hair. Hair of the dog. Try it from the top.
Ronnie
You exploded my vagina. Well, I would say the same thing to Heather. I would say it to my daughter. I would say it to anybody as a human being.
Ben
Well, the rocking, it just got to me for a second. I'm just trying to feel better. Not that I care. You know what? I'm actually concerned about something I saw on TikTok that says that you don't have a British accent.
Ronnie
I.
Ben
Well, I cannot control, and I have become British. But that's just something that happens to me when I'm extremely angry about something.
Ronnie
Wait a minute. What did you see on TikTok? What did you say? Yeah, well, I saw something on TikTok today about Seth's possible indiscretions, and Braum was like, oh, no, no. Was he farting? Was he. Please say he was farting. Todd really does not like being alone on this boat. What are you saying? Yeah, what are you saying?
Ben
So we see them watching TikTok, and there's someone on there saying an Uber driver sent a picture of Seth riding around with his mistress in col. Columbus, Ohio, allegedly. And Mary's like, well, my husband does not have a mistress. We are in a monogamous marriage. Because your boyfriend breaks up with you every time he wants to sleep with someone else. That's your problem. But I'm hashtag monogama, so don't.
Ronnie
Monogamous. You are. Brittany's like, I break up with him. He doesn't break up with me. Oh, you are a liar. You are a male despicable person. Then you know what? I'm not interested in you trying to interfere in my relationship because you're jealous that you can't hold a man down.
Ben
I am so angry, I'm going to pronounce every single syllable and some bonus ones in the word malicious. Here I go.
Ronnie
I mean, have you not seen it? It's all over TikTok. No, I have not seen it.
Ben
I saw it. I saw it. She showed me. It was really good. So, like, when they showed, like. Like, Seth, and he was in the plane, and he's like, can I do this anymore? And he's like, no, you can do it. And then he had, like, there was a goose behind him, but then goose fell out of the plane, and Seth was, like, really sad. Okay, you're talking about Top Gun, which literally has nothing to do with anything here. It's not even a vague reference to something we're talking about. Oh, okay, I didn't see it.
Ronnie
Listen, if. If you don't want to share, I totally get that. I mean, it would must be really hard having a husband who's cheating on you on TikTok in an Uber. You stay away from me. She needs to stay.
Ben
One thing that we have not even referenced is that this entire fight is happening while Meredith has like a fake knife that's going through his head. Or it's like a saw. They all have like cleavers, axes, knives. And they're having this big fight and they're accusing each other infidelity. When they have all these things sticking out of their heads. It is the visuals. I feel like we just totally failed because like the visuals of this entire fight are so hilarious. They all look ridiculous. And Meredith just gets so mad. So she just takes her saw out of her head. She's like, I am mad. And she takes her saw headband up and throws it across the deck. I am that mad. I don't even want to have a saw, a fake saw in my head. Cuz you know what you saw? You saw nothing. That's why I'm taking the saw out of my head and I'm su Again.
Ronnie
Oh my gosh. You're throwing something at me again. You're throwing something at me again. Oh my God, she's throwing something at me.
Ben
I threw it over the air. I threw it at Daisy because she is a server.
Ronnie
Brittany, why are you so smug and laughing? Like, literally. Look, Meredith. That was me tapping in. That was me tapping in. Hey, Brittany, you're smug. Yeah.
Ben
So Meredith's like, I did not throw anything, okay? And Britney's like, well, you broke a. You broke a glass. I mean, that's like, no, you tried to throw it at me. And I put my hand out and I somehow summon some sort of magical power where I deflected all water and glass with my little palm. And there are many freeze frames of it on the Internet now, marveling at my ability to liked physics.
Ronnie
So she even changed her Instagram profile to say, meredith, water bender.
Ben
I know. It's actually like an amazing shot. Like when I saw it happen, it was just like it looked like just water that she deflected. But when you actually see the freeze frame, she literally has her hand out and the water, she like created a force field. And the water is just like horizontal and all going back. It's like the most amazing thing that Meredith has ever done.
Ronnie
And Brahm was like, no, no, you broke a glass on me, Britney, while you were throwing it at her. Meredith's like, well, I don't know why Britney's even talking to me. I mean, my marriage, my. My husband. I've not talked about all the stuff out there about Britney. Like, there's plenty to talk about with him. So leave me alone. Leave my husband alone. Leave my toddler With a seizure. Alone.
Ben
Summer. Sean is like, I caught Meredith Marks. Yes. Ass. I don't want her around me. She's filled with hate. Keep her away, you guys.
Ronnie
There's a problem with her marriage, and I just want to give her a safe space. I mean, poor thing. Her husband is cheating in Ubers.
Ben
So dessert arrives, and Brahma's like, can I have the saw back? I just really hate that Meredith, like, fell out of her zombie theme. Thank you. So Captain Jason comes down because he's supposed to join them for dessert, but the fight is still going, going. I mean, should I bring up all the troll commentary about every single person here? Should I do that? And Brittany's like, we're not saying it's true. We're just saying it's like, you know, if you need to talk, this is a safe space.
Ronnie
Oh, honey, I don't need to talk to you. So Heather's like, oh, my God. Captain Jason, the guy that I around with. Just kidding. I don't know why I said that. Why did I say that? Cannot confirm or deny. Oh, my God. It's Jason, everybody. Oh, well, you know, what do we. We need to talk about what I've seen about everyone else's whole. Because I don't think so. Because I don't do that.
Ben
How's the. How's the desert, ladies? Well, I mean, it's just gross. I'm not. The dessert's fine, but this one over here, Britney, is just gross. Just like her. Oh, she's vile. Look at her, you know? Get her away from me. I knew it a year ago, and I know it now. Get her away from her.
Ronnie
Captain Jason has just walked off, and Lisa's like, wow, look at he. Look at how he just, like, gracefully declined.
Ben
I'm so impressed with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ronnie
He, like, declined. Wasn't that great? You guys chased him off the fucking table. That's Captain Jason. He's our friend. Right, Whitney? Whitney's like, yeah, that's our friend.
Ben
Well, everyone, the zombie ice cream cake is delicious. This. And somehow that just ends the episode. But wow. I actually, controversially, I actually thought this episode was funnier than last episode. Last episode was funny, but this one I thought was hilarious because you had. Another thing we didn't really highlight is that Angie was sitting there with her, like, broken finger bleeding into a towel while she's still dressed as, like, an inflatable fish. I'm like, just so just. The visuals on this show are really hitting on levels that are on unseen before on Bravo Yeah.
Ronnie
Funny show. Really, really good. I look forward to it every week. And just watching some of these episodes twice, I was like, God, they're even better the second time. It's so good.
Ben
Yeah. It really is the only show where they could scream about bloggers and leaks where it doesn't annoy me. And so, like, it's just because they are such a good cast. So bravo. Bravo. To Bravo.
Ronnie
Bravo, everybody. We will be back next week with some more of this nonsense and we will talk to you next time. Thanks for being here, everybody.
Ben
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Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: November 5, 2025
Podcast: Watch What Crappens (#3065)
This episode centers on Ben and Ronnie’s irreverent, detail-packed recap of "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City" Season 6, Episode 8. The hosts dissect the continuing "Girl War Z" on a luxury yacht, focusing on shifting alliances, marathon squabbling, and the blending of Housewives-level drama with nautical chaos. As always, they blend sharp humor, Bravo fandom, and playful shade—with special attention to the explosive (and often ridiculous) antics of the cast.
Ben and Ronnie agree this episode is peak RHOSLC absurdity, rife with sight gags, circuitous feuding, and unintentional slapstick. They highlight how the show’s deft mix of high-drama and physical comedy—like Angie’s fish costume mishap or Meredith’s superhero water block—keep even tired Bravo tropes feeling fresh.
“It really is the only show where they could scream about bloggers and leaks where it doesn’t annoy me. …They are such a good cast, so bravo. Bravo to Bravo.” – Ben (76:11)
Both hosts underscore that RHOSLC’s madcap escalation, hypnotic visual weirdness, and refusal to let a feud (or a fart) die make it Bravo’s most improbably hilarious show.
Episode “Girl War Z” highlights Housewives drama at its most unhinged and theatrical. On a yacht, the accusations fly (about leaks, lies, and literal gas), friendships and alliances teeter, and each new fight escalates into melodrama—culminating in a Zombie Night for the ages, complete with inflatable costumes, bleeding fingers, and Matrix-style water deflection. Ben and Ronnie revel in both the ridiculousness and brilliance of the cast’s antics, ensuring listeners get every inside joke, sight gag, and meta-Bravo moment along the way.