#3070 RHOP S10E06: Angel and Demons

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3070

RHOP S10E06: Angel and Demons

Date: November 10, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Main Focus: Recap and comedic roast of Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode 6 ("Angel and Demons") – covering the cast trip to Nevis, failed drama attempts, and the ongoing mess of "audition season" for the new and supporting Housewives.

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie dive into episode 6 of RHOP Season 10, reveling in what they label "audition season"—the scramble of new and friend-of Housewives to make an impression. They dissect the group’s tropical getaway, the repeated failed attempts at drama, and the self-sabotaging ways of both new and veteran cast members. As always, expect biting commentary, impersonations, and a strong dose of Bravo love-hate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Audition Season" and the Cast’s Weak Performances

• The hosts repeatedly mock how obvious it is that the new cast members (Jazzy, Kierna, Angel) are trying out for more permanent status, but keep failing to create compelling drama or real connections.
• Quote:

  "It is another audition Festivus... who will get cast? Who will have the best fight? Not Jazzy. Let me tell you that. She's trying though." (Ronnie, 05:37)

• Ronnie suggests giving Mia another shot for at least being fun in her messiness, as opposed to the current lackluster batch.

2. Angel: The Eeyore of RHOP

• Ben and Ronnie roast Angel’s constant downbeat energy, labeling her the “Debbie Downer” and likening her to Eeyore/Sad Cartoon archetypes.
• Quote:

  "She is such an Eeyore... She just ruins every single scene and potentially even episode. Any time they're having fun, she just ruins it. And I actually am now finding that to be so funny. Like, she is the Debbie Downer and you're waiting for that trumpet to go off, the trombone." (Ben, 08:08)

• The hosts debate (half jokingly) how much grace to extend Angel post-partum, ultimately agreeing that being on Housewives requires, above all, bringing the chaos.

3. Failed Confrontation Attempts and Flimsy Fights

• The dinner scene is described as a sequence of limp "audition" fights:
  • Jazzy calling out Kierna for talking about Wendy behind her back, but never revealing what was actually said (12:20–13:29)
  • Attempts to generate drama over who said what about whom are cut short or left unresolved, with the hosts describing the efforts as "bad auditions."
• Quote:

  "You've tried now, what, three fights in five minutes and they've all failed. This audition is not going well. Even Giselle's failing – and she's the director!" (Ronnie, 18:44)

4. The Shady Shots Bit

• Giselle orchestrates "shady shots" at dinner, using personalized shot glasses to deliver playful or pointed jabs ("Duchess Darby" for Ashley, "step mama" for Jazzy; then leaves Stacy’s blank).
• The hosts laugh at the forced nature of the bit, and Giselle's tireless efforts to keep things interesting.
• Quote:

  "Just bring me shots with people's names on it so I could diss them again because I'm earning my paycheck. Okay, it's year eight or it's year six. Let's do this." (Ronnie, 15:14)

5. The Group Confrontation: Giselle, Kierna, and Wendy

• On the yacht, Giselle leads a forced confrontation about whether Kierna hates her—tracing back to a much older disagreement that Kierna tries to re-litigate.
• Giselle "high-maintenance friend" branding:
  • Quote:

    "For you to think I should call you when my father passed away is ... that makes you a high maintenance friend." (Giselle, 30:36)

• Tia chimes in with tears, relating the loss of her own father, which the hosts mock as yet another Housewives "compare tragic backstories" moment.

6. Lighthearted Yacht and Villa Scenes – and Production Filler

• The hosts note a rise in "post-production filler"—silly graphics, costumes, and choreographed fun to pad out the episode due to snoozy group dynamics.
• Ronnie: "I'm hoping this is not a sign of things to come… I'm hoping Eric, the ghost of Eric Fuller, has not resurfaced." (18:44)
• Later, they roll their eyes at the extended bachelorette "slutty" dress-up party for its lack of real content (55:54–58:14).

7. The Angel vs. Jazzy Drama—Attempting (and Failing) to Stick a Landing

• After dinner, off-camera, Angel and Jazzy have a heated fight that becomes partially audible in a van ride, where Angel unloads insults ("snaggle tooth, stringy haired, hot piece of trash," 54:15).
• The subsequent group discussion tries to unpack Angel’s paranoia about being “investigated” and rumors about her past with Bobby.
• Ben points out Angel is playing "Survivor" in her head while everyone else isn’t even playing checkers (66:16).
• Ronnie: "She's just not very good at this, I think. Sometimes it's just as simple as that." (67:30)

8. Jazzy & Stacy: Bridesmaid Gate

• An amusing detour about Stacy declining to be in Jazzy’s wedding ("for family reasons" and to support her burgeoning CBD business for her daughter).
• Both hosts agree Stacy's excuse is suspect—but also valid, as nobody wants to be an unpaid laborer in a wedding for a distant friend (39:04–41:04).
• Quote:

  "She’s slapping her name on a weed collab ... What are you talking about? ... I'm giving Arabella a collab. Weed as her legacy." (Ronnie, 39:04)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On RHOP's struggle for drama:
  "They tried three fights in five minutes. All of them failed. Even Giselle's failing, and she's the director." – Ronnie (18:44)

• On Angel’s defeatist energy:
  "She is the Debbie Downer and you're waiting for that trumpet to go off, the trombone... It's so predictable so that like, you're almost waiting for her to be like, 'Well, as a wag. I don't think you guys understand. I don't know if I like you right now.' Like, oh, come on, Angel." – Ben (08:08)

• On Giselle playing producer:
  "Just bring me shots with people's names on it so I could diss them again because I'm earning my paycheck. Okay, it's year eight or it's year six. Let's do this." – Ronnie (15:14)

• On high-maintenance friends in Housewives world:
  "Once you get that stink on you, it does not leave in Housewives World." – Ben (31:23)

• On the Matt Damon 'heroics' of going off-camera:
  "They're really treating Jazzy like she is a military hero at this point. Like, what you did, the sacrifice you made, the way you found Matt Damon in the middle of France. Jazzy, we will always remember you and your sacrifice." – Ben (70:19)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:37: "Audition season" roasts, critique of the new batch of Housewives
• 08:08: The "Angel as Eeyore" discussion
• 12:20–13:29: Dinner showdown—Jazzy versus Kierna confrontation flop
• 15:14: Giselle’s "Shady Shots" bit and group reaction
• 18:44: General critique of failed group fights; Giselle as "director"
• 30:36: Giselle leverages "high-maintenance friend" label in group confrontation
• 39:04–41:04: Stacy’s “bridesmaid” escape and weed business rationalizations
• 54:15: Off-camera van fight—Angel calls Jazzy "snaggle tooth, stringy haired, hot piece of trash"
• 55:54–58:14: Bachelorette party costume parade and excessive filler content
• 66:16: Ben’s assessment of Angel’s paranoia and self-sabotage
• 70:19: Group’s reaction to off-camera confrontation, Jazzy’s “heroics”

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Noteworthy Observations & Running Jokes

• Cartoon Analogies: Ronnie and Ben liken Angel’s energy to Bugs Bunny refusing to be funny, and Roadrunner giving up—a sign of how housewives can drain the show when not participating.
• Postpartum Discussion: The hosts attempt seriousness regarding Angel's possible postpartum, but ultimately default to the “Bring the Drama or Bye!” Housewives ethos.
• Filler Content: Both bemoan recurring overuse of Bravo's on-screen graphics, jokes, theme parties, and production tricks to pad out snooze-fests.
• Stacy the Bridesmaid: Ronnie and Ben joke about never wanting to be a bridesmaid, using Stacy’s "legacy" as a running punchline.
• Angel’s Paranoia: Compared to playing "Survivor" solo, while the rest of the cast is barely attempting checkers.
• Upcoming Hype: Both joke about the show's over-the-top buildup for Monique Samuels’ guest return in the next episode.

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Conclusion

This episode of Watch What Crappens encapsulates why Potomac is such a unique Housewives franchise—even when the drama fumbles, the commentary brings the fun. Ben and Ronnie’s recap is part roast, part group therapy for Bravo fans eager to see new talent rise to the occasion. Unfortunately, with “audition season” in full swing, the verdict is that most newbies are more memorable for their mistakes than their potential. Angel fails upward into meme status, Jazzy’s effort is valiant but unconvincing, and the overall cast is called out for letting interesting fights slip away. The anticipation is now set for Monique’s return—and hopefully, a return to high-octane drama.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• The group trip is more about failed drama and filler than major explosions.
• Angel's gloomy storyline and self-sabotage were highlights in unintentional comedy.
• The old guard (Giselle, Ashley, Karen) keep the heartbeat going, while much of the new blood fizzles.
• Next week promises a shake-up with Monique’s return (and Goselle’s bodyguard, plus Ashley’s Drag King alter ego).

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[B]

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[A]

Good. How are you doing over there?

[B]

I'm doing really well, thanks. You know, it's Monday. It's the Monday before Bravocon, so I'm excited. How are you doing?

[A]

Good. I just saw Ben's Bravocon outfit. Very cute. Very cute. Gonna have to figure something out over here. Okay. Because it's not looking cute over here. So I'm gonna need to figure some stuff out. But that's this week. We will be going to Vegas. We're going to have a really good time and we have a meetup on Saturday. We know now that it will be on Saturday. We will tell you the time. Oh, oh, it's. Oh, it's a 10:00pm There you go. Oh, I didn't know. Okay, so then we can announce the whole thing, right?

[B]

Well, no, we can't announce the location, but we can announce the time.

[A]

Okay. 10:00pm on Saturday. So we'll end it to free meetup and all that good stuff. We'll announce where that is tomorrow for sure. Check out our socials. I mean, mostly Instagram. Check out Instagram also. That's where you will find a link to our Amazon lives, which is today. We have a live today at 4pm Ben's going to be talking about clothes. I'm going to go over home decor and lighting.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Hi.

[A]

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[B]

I do want to just say one thing. I'M not going to talk only about clothes on Amazon live today because I don't know if I have enough clothes to talk about, but I just want to. Just want to set expectations. And second of all, with our meetup at BravoCon, we're going to announce the location most likely tomorrow. And we do have a location, but. So we're still getting that announcement in order to. But I just want to say there will be custom cocktails, so get excited. Okay.

[A]

Custom cocktail. Yeah, he told me.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

I forgot. I forgot.

[B]

It's more than just like, oh, we're just like, gathering and like. Like, enjoy. Like, we are. We're working with a venue, so it's gonna be a really good time.

[A]

Okay, everybody, welcome. Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 Episode 6 Suns Out Buns Out Here we are, our trip to Nett. Nevis. Nevis. So let's see what's going on. So we are having dinner tonight too. Jazzy is attempting to call out Kierna because this is audition season on Potomac. That's the audition song from Chorus Line. And here they go. It is another audition Festivus. So let's see who. Who would get cast? Who will have the best fight? Not Jazzy. Let me tell you that Jazzy's not very good at this. She's trying, though. Neither is Karen and neither is angel. Really. All of them. All of them need to go. Keep Tia. Bring back Karen. Possibly. I'm even saying at this point, give Mia another chance. Just tell me to stop lying about, you know, the. The little people that she's dating on the radio. And I think we should bring her back. I miss funny Mia. She was funny.

[B]

Well, unfortunately, Mia is busy right now in Atlanta opening up a brand new Subway Franchi, guys. And also a subway, like the first ever subway in Atlanta. And also she's working on submarine. She's been hired by the Navy. So unfortunately, she's gonna be very busy right now.

[A]

Where'd you come up with Subway? Is that true? Is she opening?

[B]

No, I made that up.

[A]

I made that up.

[B]

It's the first.

[A]

I would love to see Mia moving around pamphlets in the subway. I'd be in.

[B]

I. Here's my feelings. I. I feel like Jazzy. And I will say Jazzy this week because I said Jassy the past two weeks, but it occurred to me, well, you said Jazzy, but I wasn't. I couldn't remember. But I think that probably her full name is Jasmine. Spelled J, S, M, I, N, E, I'm assuming. And when it's shortened, it becomes Jazzy. But the J A S, S, I. The S is probably an allusion to the original Jasmine spelling, which is why I was with my brain. But I think that Jazzy is doing a significantly better job than Kierna and Angel. In fact, I'm having this weird, like, so bad. It's good reaction to angel on this show because she just gets worse every week. Like, I don't know why she has a full fledged real housewife. She is such an Eeyore. And she gets more and more Eeyore. And she keeps promising that we're going to see her true personality soon. And she's like, these people keep coming for me and she just, like ruins every single scene and potentially even episode. Anytime they're having fun, she just ruins it. And I actually am now finding that to be so funny. Like, she is the Debbie Downer and you're waiting for that trumpet to go off the trombone. And it's like, it's so predictable so that, like, you're almost waiting for her to be like, well, as a wag. I don't think you guys understand. I don't know if I like you right now. Like, oh, come on, Angel. Yeah, she's a one and done.

[A]

I'm sensing, yeah, she's gonna be out of here. And, you know, we do. You know, it is important to have some sensitivity because she did have a baby, but I think it was like 18 months before. And obviously I haven't had a baby. I look like I've had three, but I haven't had one. And I don't know how long postpartum can last. You know, if you get postpartum depression or SADs or the SADs or whatever, I don't know how long that can last. I mean, look, there is a little bit of, like, allowance for that, but there's only so much because a lot of people have had babies on this show and then they come in and they just still cause mess. Remember Ashley? I mean, Ashley was pregnant and then had a baby and she's still causing mess wherever she went. She was like, everybody's different. You know, like, everybody different people have different reactions and stuff like that. But I say if you're too postpartum and depressed to, you know, show up to work, then, you know, take more time off. That's what I say. I say give her more time. Maybe. Maybe she has some sparkling personality when she doesn't have postpartum. But, you know, I don't. I don't know I don't want. Do it later then. Bring her back later then.

[B]

Right. Well, we don't know if she. We don't know if she has postpartum or not. No, we don't know she has.

[A]

She's just saying.

[B]

She just keeps. I mean, she. From what we are sort of alluding to what she's alluding to, she keeps on saying, you know, I just had some babies. Sounds like she's stressed out dealing with the babies. I think she's, like, not comfortable with how she looks and yada yada, yada. So she's dealing with all those things, which I totally understand, but you can also deal with, like, those things and I think, like, be more fun on the TV show that you're hired to be on. I don't know.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm saying that not from a postpartum perspective. Postpartum's a different thing. Maybe it's all tied together. Maybe I'm being ignorant. All I know is that what I'm receiving on my cartoons is like tuning in to watch Bugs Bunny. And then Bugs Bunny is like, you know what? I don't know what's up with Doc.

[A]

And it's like, I don't want car. You don't really know what I'm going through. I'm like, I don't want carrots. Why is that guy always hunting me? Why is he hunting me? I hate.

[B]

It's like Wiley Coyote decided not to chase. Chase the roadrunner. Wally Coyote said, you know what? I think I just need, like, a me day today. I'm like, no, get to the chase and get to run off that guy.

[A]

He's just, like, lying down and letting Wiley Coyote eat him, you know?

[B]

Yeah, Roadrunners. Not even saying, meet, Meet roadrunners. Just going, take me, take me. That would be the best version of.

[A]

It's like the sad horns, but the Roadrunner version.

[B]

Was anyone ever on Roadrunner side? I don't think I was actually ever on Bugs Bunny side, to be honest. I thought bug. Bugs Bunny was actually kind of obnoxious.

[A]

I wanted Bugs Bunny to get shot. Like when he was like, hunt a wabbit. Kill the web. And I was like, get him. What's wrong with you? Get us. Get a sight on that gun. I mean, get him. It's a bug's bunny. Annoying. I wouldn't want someone coming up and digging up my carrots either. Get him. Eat him.

[B]

He is, like, really annoying. Like, I was always on Woody Woodpecker side. I always supported Woody Woodpecker Woody.

[A]

No, I hated him, too. That noisy. That noisy ass.

[B]

Yeah. But he was like. I don't know. He spoke to my soul a little bit more. Whereas Bugs Bunny was just like. I don't know. He was just a real brat. I mean, I think, actually Chili Willy was really my favorite, but Chili Willy didn't really do anything wrong. Chili Willy.

[A]

I don't know who that is.

[B]

Chili Willie, probably. I would hate to work with Chili Will. You know, Chilly Willy would be the worst coworker, right?

[A]

Just being so. Chilly Willy. I don't know who that is. Is he Penguin Books Bunny?

[B]

Yeah, the penguin who would. The igloo who would just sort of speak sort of slowly and, like, you know, that Chilly Willy would. Would, like, corner you at the. In the office lounge and, like, tell you boring stories of the weekend, and you're like, ugh, I got cornered by Chilly Willy again.

[A]

All right, well, speaking of, let's get to an argument here. So now this argument is Jazzy to call out Kierna for talking about Wendy behind her back, which, who cares, really? So jazzy and also jazzy. Just say what it was, please. So Jazzy said, your energy has changed since I met you, Kierna. And she's like, it is. It is very different. I agree. I have a condo now, so I think what you're sensing is condo energy. So sorry.

[B]

Yeah, condo energy with a view of the highway. So don't be jealous. So, Jazzy. So the producer says, how mad would Wendy be if she found out what. What Kierna said? And Jazz, a scale of one to five. And Jazzy goes probably an 8.5. Like, okay, I. I can't imagine that anything that Kierna says is, like, that secret or confidential. So why are you not just being messy and telling us? Because this. Like, this teasing it out is not interesting. Especially because we don't even come back to it. Like, we actually never find out what it was. And. And not only do we not find out, by the end of the episode, I've totally forgotten about it because I care that much.

[A]

Yeah, well, we don't find out. I guess we find out some Giselle stuff. I don't know. I thought we found out. Maybe we don't.

[B]

Maybe we did. Maybe I found it out.

[A]

So Jazzy's like, okay, Karen, how do we move on? What do you need from me right now? What do you need from me? And Ashley's like, why don't you guys just sleep about it? Giselle will bring it up five times before tomorrow. So don't worry about it. You'll get another chance. And it's sad because they really tried it. They even got a continuation, and it was, you know, it was a bad audition. And cut. You're both cut. Get out.

[B]

Yeah. Kieran, I think, is also. I think. I think her time has come. Well, her time never arrived in the first place. Let's be honest. Okay? But, like, for someone whose time had never arrived, her time is also, like, has. Has come. And it's. It's time for her to go.

[A]

So they're going on a yacht tomorrow, and so that's very exciting. Mr. Sunshine comes back to give some more killer B shots. And you, too, Mr. Sunshine, you're trying too hard. We get it. You have killer B shots. Go away. Bring me something else. You know, it's like when they come to your table, they're like, try our special shot. Okay, I tried it. Bring me martini, sir. Okay. How many of these do I need? It's going to make my stomach hurt. So he comes over, and now Giselle is doing. So he brings special shots. And Giselle has put everybody's name on these shots, but he stacks one of the shots on the other shot. And Giselle tries to start doing a dance. And so the shot spills on her, and it's karma, because she wants to do shady shots, which is just where Giselle gets another moment to criticize everybody. Just bring me shots with people's names on it so I could diss them again because I'm earning my paycheck. Okay, it's year eight or it's year six. Let's do this.

[B]

So Ashley's says Duchess Darby, which is a reference to Ashley calling herself Duchess Darby at her second Bloom Ball. And then Tia's just as not a shady shot.

[A]

Why is she. Why is that a shady shot? I think everything with Ashley Darby should be called, like, I've had Michael Darby inside of me shot. You know, that's a shady shot. Not referencing the body she gave herself.

[B]

It's a. You know, it's a traumatic shot, actually. That's a. That's a what have I done with my life shot.

[A]

I swallowed golf before I swallowed this shot. Shot glass. It's very long for a shot glass, but still.

[B]

Yeah. And then she. Tia's shot says stylists. And so Tia gets her the finger by. By, like, you know, itching her forehead with her middle finger. And then we have jazz and says, you're the bride. You're the bride, and you're also the step mama. So yours says step mama. And Jazz is like, okay, yeah, I'll accept that because I'm an audition phase, so I have to accept this. But otherwise I'd get really bad at you. Really bad at you.

[A]

And then Stacy gets hers, but Giselle didn't even put her name on it because she hates Stacy. So she's like, it says nothing on it. And she says, I don't know if I should put Mrs. Samuels. I don't know if I should put Timo. I don't know. So I left it blink. And then we see shots of the blank robe and all the disses. And Stacy's like, try again, Giselle. You cannot shake me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And this is for Angela. And angel goes, oh, what does mine say? It says, chin check.

[A]

Like, ah.

[B]

And Angel's like, I'll take it. Like, angel was all ready to get upset. She was all ready. So Giselle then says, it's. This is just more confusion shade. So it says, giselle hater. That's for uk. And Kieran is like, oh, okay, okay. She's like, I had a conversation with Wendy. And Wendy said, well, you hate Giselle. And that bothered me. Which is funny because this stemmed from the park bench scene earlier in the season where Kieran was saying, why were you talking with Giselle in the first place? When I interrupted, because you hate Giselle. And Wendy said, no, you hate Giselle. But I don't know if Kieran actually declared that, but Wendy assigned it. And now Wendy told Giselle that Kieran hates her.

[A]

She told me on the pock bench.

[B]

So.

[A]

And Giselle's like, well, the other day, Wendy let it be known that Kate has residual feelings, and I've been nothing but supportive of her. I've been a champion of gay. Even Greg, when Greg didn't like her. So Jazzy's like, well, you've always said nice things about Kay. You know, I mean, come on. Even saying that's your friend, I mean, wow, that's huge for Giselle. And Kieran is like, no, she hasn't always said nice things about me. And I need Wendy to bring whatever her facts are about that, because I'm not going to say anything about it until I know what Wendy said. You know, I'm not going to out myself for random bad shit I've said about you. I need the specific things that you've heard.

[B]

Yeah. So then Karen is like, well, let's table it, because I feel like Wendy will feel better tomorrow. We'll talk about it. Let's like, plan our scene for tomorrow. Let's see.

[A]

So you've tried now, what? Three fights in five minutes and they've all failed. This audition is not going well. You're all failing. Even Giselle's failing. And she's trying. She's even trying. She's like the director. She's like, let me show you the steps again. This is how you do it. And they still can't do it.

[B]

There is definitely a feeling that this episode, they kind of ran out of vacation content because we had. We did have some sort of, like, fizzles on the fight front. And we had more graphics than usual. We had fun, silly fun times with everyone dressed up with, like, slutty later on. And it was definitely a traumatic flashback to two seasons ago when that's all that they had. So every episode they had some sort of, like, post production fan type phantasmagoria of, you know, chirons and music. But I think they just ran up. I'm hoping this is not a sign of things to come. I'm hoping Eric, the ghost of Eric Fuller has not, like, resurfaced to this episode. I mean, for future episodes. Because it's here today.

[A]

Yeah, it's here today for sure. So back to the villas. Angel wants to go to bed. Kieran wants to go to bed. She's exhausted, guys. She's like, I have nothing left to give the ladies at this point. What have you given all you. You're the one starting all these fights. At least finish them off.

[B]

All you're doing is sulking. Okay? Sulking. And then you're exhausted from your own sulking. You're like, you're one of the youngest people on this cast and you seem to have the least amount of energy. Okay, Come on, try harder.

[A]

Yeah. So now we see producer cam. Wendy is sleeping in full hair and makeup. No. Because she doesn't feel good. And then we see producer cam of Ashley, Jazzy, and Stacy chatting. But they don't think they're on camera because we're just getting them through, like, the little home camera thing. And they're not miked. So Jazzy's like, well, apparently one of the editors at People got wind of you and Chris on a date. And Stacy was like, I was separated. I was going through a divorce and we were separated. Timo saw other people, I saw other people. Arabella didn't know anything.

[B]

Poor dead people.

[A]

Arabella saw dead people. But I did not have sex with anyone. I just hung out. And Chris was one of those people that I hung out with and didn't have sex with. Did tell Chris this. Might I suggest this camel sweater? Is there anything better for Christmas? Is there anything that represents Jesus more than this camel?

[B]

I have to say, when I saw Chris Samuels and his hulking frame, the first thing I said was, talk about length, talk about drama, talk about football, talk about giant man with a deep voice so big.

[A]

So jazzy asks if she banged him, and she's like, no, I've not, Chris. So we get that on camera because I guess we're gonna find out later that she does. But I don't. I still don't care. I don't care if she wrote him. I don't care if she's him right now. I don't care if she brought Chris Samuels out, put him on a couch and wrote him right now on tv. I wouldn't care. It doesn't bother me. Monique's not even on this show.

[B]

There's no infraction. There's literally no infraction. There's no breaking of girl code. She is allowed to get that Samuel's peen.

[A]

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[B]

Free right now on Wondery. So guess what? It's the morning and Kiera is FaceTiming with America's favorite Greg and she's like, today's the last day and we're gonna go on with a bang like tonight. Tonight's lot night. So you know going out with a bang for Kierna means like she's gonna sulk extra hard today. She's gonna find something that she'll be upset about and does not matter. There's no statute of limitations on these things. She will be upset.

[A]

Yeah. She's like, I'm going to assault today, but I'm going to do it in a leather thong. Partake. And Greg's like, you know what's funny? It's going to be slut night for us over here today too. Ha ha ha. We all laugh because Greg's just so light hearted. God, what a relationship.

[B]

What a fun guy.

[A]

So Ashley calls her mom Sheila and they talk about the weather and Dean's birthday. What are we going to do for Dean's birthday? He's going to be Beetlejuice because he loves a musical.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But Josh is texting me, mom, send him a sexy picture. Then we see the sexy picture that Ashley sent Josh and then we send the see the picture that he sent back and we're like, where's butthead? I'm not used to seeing just one of you alone. I don't want to see one of you critique music videos. I want you both.

[B]

Yeah. Then we go to Tia driving a golf cart and she picks up Karen and Angel to go to breakfast. And Angel's like, I want to approach this day with positivity. For me, I cannot continue to dwell on what's happened unless it involves being a wag. I will talk about that all the time because I cannot let negativity in this way take up space in my mind. You are the great cloud on this entire season. I mean, on a season where we have Kierna, who is a gray cloud, you're being. You're somehow outgraying Kierna. Do you realize this? And you're going to sit here and talk about how you're not going to let negativity take up space. You are the negativity coming in and filling up everyone's space.

[A]

And nothing's really happened to you. Also nothing. Like people. People made fun of you for filtering your images, which you did.

[B]

And. And then Wendy. Wendy tried to start something with you, which I was actually largely on Angel's side with that because I think angel was trying to protect her, her pre existing friendship. And I think she's entitled to do that. But like, that is also Real Housewives. And you can't be stupid and smart. You know what you signed up for. People are gonna sort of poke at you and clap back at you. And you can't act so fragile all the time.

[A]

Yeah. So now Wendy is feeling a little bit better today, and she has a sinus infection. She's hanging out with Stacy in the bathroom. And Stacy's like, is it painful? She goes, yeah, it's painful. Here, here. Headache, throat, everything hurts. And then Wendy looks at her and she's like, what happened to your lip? She's like, oh, my God, is it noticeable? I got allergic to something. And then we see a close up of her lip and it looks kind of like a hair lip. And she's like, it's not noticeable, is it? Wendy's like, yeah, it's noticeable. She's like, no, but it's not, is it? She goes, yeah, it doesn't look bad, does it? You look terrible. No, it doesn't look bad.

[B]

Doesn't.

[A]

Hideous.

[B]

Oh, Arabella. Then they get into golf carts, and as she's like, oh, my God, your lip went down. And she's like, did. It did go down. The power of Christ. And Ashley's like, well, last night, Spacey Stacy spewed some lies. Like, Pinocchio's nose grew, girl. Your lips grew. So now they get onto this yacht and they're. They're getting ready and every. They're arriving on golf carts. They're all feeling very, very fancy schmancy. And Giselle is telling them what the plan is. There's gonna be towels. She got towels for everyone that have their names on them, of course, except for Stacy. Stacy has a blank towel.

[A]

So it's because I don't know who you are, but now I feel a little bit better about you. Stacy. Yeah. And she's like, oh, that's. That's great. And she's like, do you want to hug? She's like, no, that's too much. That's too much. That's too much.

[B]

So now it's time. Giselle's like, okay, Wendy, Kierna, and me, we are going to have a scene.

[A]

And.

[B]

But, of course, Wendy's like, why is it a threesome? Why do I have to do this? She's like, I don't want any parts of this. I'm here for a good time. Take me out the group chat.

[A]

But it's audition season, so Giselle's like, well, last night was shady shot, and Kay's was. Giselle is a hater because I've been confused about you all conversation. So my question to Kay is more like, when did you decide to hate me? What did I do for you not to like me? Now we'll ask Wendy, because Wendy's here. Ra. So Kieran is like, well, I don't think I ever said I don't like you. I think I said I was upset with you, and I was upset about the situation that happened at the nightclub, and I shared it with Wendy that I was upset about Giselle. But, you know, it was because you didn't reach out to me, and you didn't call. Call me. So Giselle tells us, like, yeah, I was disappointed, but I told Giselle that at the reunion. So I don't know why we're bringing this up again. This is not new news. And, yeah, you're bored. I don't know. Giselle's board, Wendy's board. We're all bored. Like, why?

[B]

Kierna going back to this fight was a little bit shocking. I was like, really? I mean, I. I thought that she was gonna say, I have no beef with you. And Wendy said, I had a beef with you, and I don't have a beef with you. And she's trying to drive a wedge between us, but instead, she was like, no, I'm. I'm upset because you didn't check in on. Check in on me after that fight enough. And it's just like, this is the ongoing issue with Kieran. People don't check in with her. Like, there's not enough attention being given to this friendship. And now she is upset at Wendy and at Giselle and that whoever else she's upset at. And it's, It's. It's too much. So this Giselle basically just shuts her up right now. And Giselle's like, I am going to pull both the cancer card and the dead dad card, and you are going to have to take it because it's going to trump your I got into a fight at a bar card. So she basically is like, at that time, my dad was in a hospital with a brain tumor with cancer. And I went from the event directly to the ICU and he had surgery and he died a few days later. So while you're sitting there, your situation could get resolved with the plastic surgeon. My dad is no longer here. This is done. Goodbye.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do not bring this up again. Do not try me. I am still Giselle Bryant and I'm running this show. And if you're gonna come for me, you better bring something much better than a 2 year old expired storyline.

[A]

Yeah. And she's like, for you to think I should call you when my father passed away is that that makes you a high maintenance friend. And when he's like that, you're a high maintenance friend, you're a high maintenance.

[B]

Good, good label, Giselle. That was really good high maintenance friend. Because that's actually real. That's real stink. You don't ever want that stink on you. Like, if you're a high maintenance friend. Like, everyone tries so hard to not be that. You see it on Orange county, for example. How many times have we seen Tamara and Shannon fight over how not high maintenance there are they are. You know, Tamara accuses Shannon of calling in the middle of the night drunk, needing so much. And that was there for you every single time. It's like, well, and how many times do I have to support you with all your things? Everyone's always fighting about how they have to support other people because they're high maintenance friends, basically. So once you get that stink on you, it does not leave on Housewives World.

[A]

Yeah. But Kieran doesn't care. She's like, I've already admitted I'm a high maintenance friend. And Giselle's like, well, I didn't know it was going so deep as to I hate her. And she goes, I didn't though. And Wendy's like, well, it wasn't that, but it was giving that. Okay, Wendy, you're just starting. You're just starting. And you're also starting boring. So you're guilty of this too. And Kieran is like, no, that was actually Wendy's feelings because Wendy said you were a snake and the worst person on the planet. And just Wendy's like, but I said it to a face, so it's okay.

[B]

Yes, she said it to my face. We had a feud for three years. It's okay. Yeah, I think actually that is part of it is that they were in a feud for three years. I mean, ever since that. Ever since Giselle and Robin brought up, you know, rumors of Eddie maybe cheating on. When they were on vacation on that lake, then Wendy has had no time for Giselle. And now. But now they've hatched. They've not hatched. They've. They've patched it up. So I think Giselle's kind of like, yes, of course she said that stuff. We weren't friends at that time. And she said it to my face multiple times at reunions. So then Giselle's like, I've been nothing but nice to you. And Karen was like, well, I. Girl, I'm not even thinking about your ass. And she said, well, why are you talking. Talking to me? And she's like, because there was nothing new about your sank ass ways. And Wendy's like, okay, so what did I do? Karen has behemothly blamed Ashley for incident that happened the club. She said that she basically hated Giselle and I'm sneaky and I'm a snake and now you're, you know, you're a snake and you're fake as fuck.

[A]

Yeah, but you started this. So why are you like, what did I do? You were the one that said that Kiera said she hates Giselle. So.

[B]

Well, I think that I. I think it was probably. I think Wendy and Giselle were probably having a talk where they're like, oh, my God, this new girl, Kierano, she's trying it so hard. Now she's mad at me. She's mad at me and, like, I don't even understand why. Like, she doesn't even like you. Giselle. And Giselle's like, what? She's like, oh, yeah, she hates you. Like, there probably. It was. I don't think it was said in a way of like, well, guess what, Giselle Kierana hates you. It probably came up like, this girl, she's mad at everyone. She's even mad at you. Giselle. You know, she. And Giselle's probably why she's not mad at me. Yes, she is. She hates you. That's what I predict the conversation was.

[A]

So Tia's like, well, what you went through was awful, Giselle. Just awful. And I'm here, and I'm tearing up because I, too, have lost a father. So I understand. And you, Kiana, what you've gone through is absolutely terrible. I, too, have almost been bonked on the head with a champagne bottle by an angry woman in a party and then had a glass thrown at my head. Well, that's actually never happened, but it could. And I would be very upset you.

[B]

Think that for the princesses.

[A]

I have a son that wants to be adopted. Please, can we not discuss this anymore? I just can't. I can't.

[B]

Yeah. She's like, you can't expect anything deserved for three years after she's buried her dad. Let me just tell you that from somebody who's gone through it, and she says that she. She tells us how she lost her dad and how it really has shaped her, and she's like, this woman is not going to be the same. And I know that's because I buried my father. But that doesn't change that you want your friends to validate what has happened to you again. And I think you need to get it all out so you guys know exactly where you stand.

[A]

I've been a friend to you. So I was taken aback and shocked by Wendy, and I'm going to take the name off of your robe. And she's like, well, I apologize sincerely. And I didn't fully express the magnitude in which I was upset. I love how Karen. I talks. What the fuck? What does that mean? And she's like. But she's like, but you spoke to people.

[B]

Sound like lawyers.

[A]

Yes, but you spoke to people and said that I was the aggressor in that fight. And I just think if something happened to you, I would have done the same. I would have. I would have. I would have called you, I guess, is what she means. So.

[B]

No, I think she means I would have. I would have jumped in and I would have defended you in a fight.

[A]

Yeah, I think. Okay. So she's like, you know, I mean, for Tia to say she would never compare those experiences and to watch her cry in that moment, I really felt for her because she didn't owe us that. But we need to empathize when tragic things happen to each other. For example, the glass that a muppet threw at my head. Thank you.

[B]

For example, I rest my God. The scar that I got on my forehead. We need to empathize for people with forehead scars.

[A]

So they all congratulate each other on having this great conversation. But it was another fail as far as, like, another failed fight. Another stupid fight.

[B]

So I like Giselle also saying sometimes a better, deeper friendship can come on the other side of something. That stuff. And I'm glad that's all that's in the open. And we don't ever need to discuss this ever again.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

I'm like, so you're just gonna, like, we will not discuss this ever again. I'm like, yes. The sign of a good, deep friendship is when you bury things in the past. Like, no, verboten.

[A]

Yeah. So now they go to. Now they're out in the water and they come close to a shipwreck thing. And Stacy's like, is that a shipwreck? What happened? What happened? That looks unsanitary.

[B]

Karen drove into it. That's all. The boat was fine, like, three days ago.

[A]

So now it's fun times. They go swimming, they take pictures. Pictures. Angel's pumping. Sadly, she's like, I'm pumping. I'm so sorry. I'm so sick of it. So now they go back to the van, and they go to dinner. Orchid Bay Beach House Restaurant. And they take a group picture and stuff like that. And Giselle's like, I've set the names. I have set the names today. And now she's like, no more blanks for you, Stacy.

[B]

Stacy got a name tag.

[A]

She got a name. Yeah. Finally. So Giselle's approval. What everybody lives for.

[B]

So then they're eating dinner. Ash is asking if Jazzy's done everything that she needs to do for the bridal shower and everything. And Jazzy's saying like. Like, well, we had a co ed bachelor and bachelorette party, which I'm sure, by the way, Darius loved. Drew's like, great. And I'm definitely not going to have a bachelor party that's separate from you at all. And she's like, and now we get to celebrate with you guys. And that's just so special to me. Angel's like, please, have fun during your last week of your wedding. Just allow yourself to live in that moment. From an elder wag to a young wag and possibly the wisest person at this table. Have fun. Have fun at the last week of your wedding.

[A]

Yeah. Have fun at that bachelorette party that you're making your husband to. Because, you know, he'll probably impregnate himself. He'll probably impregnate somebody if he gets his own bachelor party. Okay. As a wag. So Ashley's like, so wait a minute. Stacy, you were asked to be a Bridesmaid, Right? Jesse and Stacy are both going. So what's up, Stacy? And Stacy's like, well, I declined because of family reasons. And we talked about that. What if I go and Arabella says, what's a wedding? And I have to describe to her that I might be back with her father.

[B]

I have to stay for Arabella. So she says, my business launches, coinciding with Jassy's wedding, and I want to support my friend, but this is life changing for me, and this is the legacy that I want to leave to Arabella. Arabella. And I want to be very careful about my decision to leave my flash in the pan CBD and weed business to Arabella. So my intentions are to be there to support her. But there are a lot of factors at play here. So when she said this, I was like, this is a whole bunch of, you're not going to. Ridiculous. You're not going to do this. Like, you can launch a business and do be part of a bridal, you know, party.

[A]

You're slapping your name. You're slapping your name on a weed collab. It's not like you're going and growing the weed yourself. Somewhere someone is packaging that up and you're slapping a label on it. What are you talking about? And I love that she's like, family. I'm giving Arabella a collab. Weed as her legacy.

[B]

No one is turning to Stacy for weed. Although maybe now, I mean, if there's anyone who can sell it, it's going to be her. But, like, no one's looking at Stacy and saying, that's the person whose weed I want to buy, like, empowering her to be a multi millionaire from it. However, that was my first reaction, and then my second reaction was, you know, good for her. Good for her for coming up with some excuse to get out of being in a bridal party. Because the truth is, who wants to be in a bridal party, right? You have to sit. You have to do all these things for Jassy, who you barely even know, and probably sit through a bunch of, like, insufferable events and be on group texts and wear a dress. That's not going to be flattering. All because Jassy is probably the one, or Jazzy is probably the one who probably wants the clout from Stacy. And so Giselle does make this good point, which is like, okay, let's be clear. Stacy doesn't know whether didn't know whether Jazzy was going to be part of this group or not. AKA being on the TV show. So Stacy was willing to throw Jesse and the wedding in the trash because if she was going to be part of this group, then Stacy's not a real friend. Okay. But then Stacy met Jazzy is here. So now she's like, oh, okay. And that's fair. But like, let's also be honest, Jazzy was probably using Stacy for as much cloud as Stacy is chasing right now.

[A]

Yeah, that's the thing. Giselle's basically saying, look, she's not going to go to that wedding because she didn't consider her famous because she's not on the show. So why would she do that? But I say, why would she? She's not close friends with Jazzy. Jazzy's just like, she's friendly.

[B]

We're friends.

[A]

She's like, well, she's the new one. She's the new one. So she'll come to my wedding and get this some airtime. Right? So I say, I agree with you for sure.

[B]

So at first blush, I was like, oh, my God, this is so fake and such that she's saying. But then second blush, I was like, she's doing the absolute right thing and I totally support her.

[A]

Yeah. Because being in someone's wedding, like being a bridesmaid, that's not like you just show up one day in a dress. It's a whole. It's a whole commitment, you know, it's like you buy the dress, you go to the fittings and you go to the parties and you go to the showers. Then you help plan the stuff, and it's like you plan the trips and then you plan that it's not some. And then you have to put up with this lady's bullshit for at least a month. You know, we all know that. Have you been a bridesmaid before? Like a groomsman? Not a groomsman, but, you know, on the bride's side. A brides.

[B]

Yeah, I have for my friend Michelle, and it was like low key. It was easy. I didn't have to do anything. I had to. I made like a little video presentation. Like, she's not. She was not a bride cell or anything like that. She had a very small, like 28 person wed. So it was no big deal. But I'm never, you know, I'm not like a gay like that. You know, I don't. I just don't. I'm not. I've never been like a pocket gay, you know, where, like I'm holding necessarily like the purse of a girl or something like that. I mean, I will. I'm Gladly. Actually, I just. Yesterday, I literally held my friend's back. But the point is, I'm. Girls don't come to me for those sort of things. They don't come to be like, oh, my God, Ben, you totally have to be part of my bridal party. You're one of the girls. I think. I don't think I dress well enough. So they just don't know what to do with.

[A]

Dress well enough.

[B]

I've never been engaged.

[A]

I don't have enough.

[B]

I've tried. Yeah.

[A]

I think people just know. Like, don't ask Ronnie. He'll barely do anything. But I did do it for one of my friends, and it was fun. But that's where I learned, like, what it's really like to be a bridesmaid, because, damn, that is not easy. It was like a whole month. There was, like, a group calendar and things to do and to do, lists for each of us and all the money. And I was like, girl, I love you, but. And then on the wedding day, it's like, where are my gaz? I need you. Get in here. Is my dad okay? Is my vets this okay? What are the boys doing? Go over and see what the boys are doing. It's just too much. Yeah, I'm not.

[B]

It's too much. And it gets into fights. Those friendships never survive. And I just want to say also that. Okay, well, I. Whatever I was going to say, just completely mind something about. Just. Just pretend I said something completely salient and biting about being in a bridal party, because that's probably what I said.

[A]

It was good. Good point.

[B]

It was really good.

[A]

So, anyway, the point is, if somebody asks you to be a bridesmaid, for whatever reason you want to say no, you are entitled to say no. I'm not marrying your ass, and I'm not committing to this. So I'll be there, and I'll send you. I'll send you something mid range from your, you know, what is it? And what. I will register it from your registry.

[B]

Yeah. And what. Here's what I was gonna say, which is that seeing the way Jazzy loses her mind in about three seconds, I think this is a good bridal party to miss, because you know that this is probably what was happening on the regular to the entire bridal party with Jazzy. How dare you do that? We are 18 days away from this wedding. If you know the sort of pressure I'm under, you're gonna ask me that question. You know, that's what it was the entire time. I think Stacy Dodged a bullet.

[A]

Yeah. So Stacy's not gonna fight about it. She's just like. I feel like I've said enough. Wait, I haven't. Okay, let me just say this.

[B]

Horabella. Okay. Okay, here comes one right now.

[A]

So Tia's like, well, Jazzy, I feel like we're getting to know each other, and you've been quite kind to me. And then yesterday, when I was trying to diffuse this. A catfish thing, and you're like, well, you do the same thing. It made me go on your page, and I feel like all filterization is about the same, so I just wanted to get that in there. Everybody, I'm not more filtered than Jazzy. There. I've said it. And this is Tia's first time really trying to start one, so I'll give her a little leeway here.

[B]

And also, I'd also like to say that Is filterization a word? Because I don't believe it is, but. Oh. What I would like to say is caterization is not a word, but if it were a word, I would spell it with an S and not a Z because I'm British. So. So then jazzy is Jazzy.

[A]

Jazzy's thing. Maybe she's British. Unless I keep saying Jazzy Jassy instead of Jazz.

[B]

I cannot. No, it's because every time I see Jassy Jazz, Every time I see the. I see it's spelled out Jassy, I cannot help but say Jassy, even though she is Jazzy. I'm sorry, everyone, but just pretend I have an accent. Just because of Diaz.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So she's like, not at all. Not at all. Our filterization is not the same, actually, in a lot of my pictures on my page, several of my pictures. Many, most actually of my pictures are unfiltered, and then we see side by side, and they are also completely filtered like crazy.

[A]

Yeah, Go ahead, please.

[B]

Thank you. Other me, I was trying to diffuse the fire, and I feel like you were trying to heighten the fire.

[A]

And then Jazzy's like, well, let me tell you something, Tia. Okay? And then she points at Tia with the food on her fork. Like, she gets way too. She gets way too into this. And Tia's like, oh, no, don't do that with the fork. Please, please, no forks. She's like, well, I don't do it with the fork. You came into this group, and you tried to act like, I don't know what's going on. Well, I'm not trying to be upset, all right? I'm not trying to be upset. Oh, so we're marking accents now, are we?

[B]

That was fun. That. That's a reach for Tia, but I like that she reached for it. And Jassy. Jazzy's like, I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm not trying to be offensive. Oh, do you have a problem with my accent? She's like, I'm not doing an accent. And Angel's like, it was a little bit of an accent, but in our circles, we call that a wag accent, so maybe people don't realize that. Yeah, well, they're calling it's a wax as an elder wag.

[A]

Yeah, the mother wag.

[B]

I've been around a lot of wax sense, and it's just something you get used to. Sorry, Tia.

[A]

Yeah. She's like, what? I'm not. You're making fun of my accent. You think that's funny? She's like, I'm not, but I'm watching you because you were the same person that sat in that van and told me in a giggly kind of way, oh, my God, the owner of that restaurant was really looking at you, and he really loves you. 14 days before my wedding. Oh, my goodness.

[B]

You have anger issues. You've got anger issues. And she goes, no. She says, you are wrong. Don't play with me, Tia, because if you want it, I'll take it there. Okay? Tia's like, I don't understand this American.

[A]

As He's, like, pointing her fingers and getting all upset. And Tia's like, what's going on? Do you fly over the table? Is that what you're about to do? Are you going to throw a glass or something? She's like, do not play with me, Tia.

[B]

Wendy's like, I'm gonna step in here.

[A]

Another audition round come and gone and fail. And Wendy's like, pass the pushudo.

[B]

Well, I don't understand what's going on. It's like. Okay, so after that little exchange with the theater, right? Then we take the group photo with Mr. Sunny, and he wanted her to stand next to him. And angel, you thought. Because you commented it on us as well. You said, this feels like being a wag being in the public right now.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Did you not say that? She goes, yes, I did say that. Well, Theo was worried about you feeling offended, and she didn't mean it.

[A]

And then we see this picture that they took, and let me just say, I don't believe that Jazzy does not filter her pictures, because this picture we see what an unfiltered Jazzy picture. Looks like. And it was not good. So I was like, well, listen, let's just all use filters and not give each other shit about it. It. Because I feel like filters are allowed. So then. But this is also so stupid. Like, who cares if he thought you were hot? How is that going to affect your marriage? You went to a restaurant, and the guy who owns it thought you were hot. How was saying that?

[B]

I think that they.

[A]

In your marriage. That's silly.

[B]

My theory is that there's been infidelity in that. In that marriage. And so any sort of, like, reference or insinuation about infinite infidelity is, like, just a massive trigger that causes her to lose her mind. And that's what happened here, because this was so overkill. And Tia explains it. She's like, look, he thought you were beautiful. And I made a joke. Like, you know, you have to tell Darius that he has competition. And, like, you know, and then when I said that, her whole face changed and everything. Just not a joke. She said, can I please finish? That's my humor, princess. Humor. She doesn't know me. Do I have to explain? Tongue in cheek again. Okay, I'll be happy to. I'll do it if you follow. She's small. My man does not have competition. You don't laugh and say, the owner of that restaurant was quite fond of you. And then Karen was like. It was tongue in cheek.

[A]

There we go with the tongue in cheek again. Like, don't start this. You're gonna cause new mayhem and confusion. Okay? So Angel's like, yeah, but, guys, this is Mr. Sunshine we're talking about, okay? Like, did you see the man? Kieran says, yeah, Jazzy, we clearly know that man is not competition, okay? We're talking about a man with two teeth and two dreads. Okay? I don't even. How did this even escalate?

[B]

I mean, even Karen was like, whoa.

[A]

But poor Mr. Sunshine, you know, Mr. Sunshine's got the whole town gathered to watch him on this show. And then they're like, look at that man with his two teeth and his two dreads. No one's Mr. Sunshine. He's like, I wasted so many shots on these girls.

[B]

I know. And they cut to, like, a shot of Mr. Sunshine smiling. Like. And then you see Darius smiling, and he has, like, when he smiles, he has that smile, you know, that smiley face smile. They sometimes do that, make it look like. Like a smile is actually, like, happier than usual. He was, like, full on smiley face, graphic design. And it's just like, jazz. Jazzy, are you really? Are you really? Do you really think they're implying that you. Or. Or is Jazzy upset that she thinks Darius is going to watch this and think that Jazzy and Mr. Sunshine have a thing going on? That's probably what it is.

[A]

Honestly. Honestly, I think you're putting too much thought into this. I think Jazzy's just trying to start something because it's Jazzy. She's been trying. She's trying, you know, and I give her credit. Audition season, you come out, you try a song, you try another song, you try another song. But at some point, you have to learn to sing, because they're all family. All the songs are failing. How many chances do you get DJ.

[B]

Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Princess, A reference to Tia. Guys, wordplay is so fun. So Jazzy is, like, learning that that Darius had lied to me was one of the hardest times in my life. We have two counselors. One is a pastor, and then we have another one here in Maryland. So naturally triggered by Mr. Sunshine, a deep threat to my relationship.

[A]

Yes. And this was a flashback to her telling Giselle at lunch this. And we come back, and Giselle's like, well, look, you know, we. We know that your partner has done some stuff that they shouldn't have done, and I can relate to that because I have been with Pastor Holy Hora, and it takes a lot of trust that you have to rebuild, but to comfort here with a fork, ma', am, that's a little too much. I'm so sorry I offended you. I. I did not mean to disrespect your marriage, your fiance, your relationship, any of it. Any of it.

[B]

Okay, Jazzy, do you accept her apology? Yeah. She's like, I accept it, but don't be a shady. She says now she's starting to smile. Well, can I do light shade? I just have to figure it out. I can do light shade, right? Like, they're all laughing, and she's. Oh, but by the way, guys, I am very offended by you mocking my accent. And they're staring at her like, oh, no.

[A]

And she's like, just joking. Just joking. That was light Shade Princess made.

[B]

So they're laughing, and then there's, like, a snort. Someone snorts, and it's like, oh, my God, that's funny. And so Wendy's getting tired because she needs her antibiotics, and she's, like, a little lethargic right now. And then they're enjoying their food, and they're just, like, talking, joking about their food, and they're kind of, like, settling down. There.

[A]

And now party is coming up and they're talking about that. So now we see everybody go, okay. So they go back to the villa in the van. So then 30 minutes later, dun, dun, dun. The screen fades to black and it says, cameras and audio break to travel to the resort. And Stacy tells us after dinner, we were on our way back to the Aura villa and cameras were down and mics are off. And we hear angel and Jazzy in this heated conversation. And you can tell emotions are high. And angel saying she's very jealous of me. And Jazzy saying it was very clear something was going on. And then we hear angel go, she's a snaggle tooth, stringy haired, hot piece of trash. And that bitch is ugly. And this is who you're talking about. So now you know. Are you kidding me? Look at her picture. Look at this ugly bitches picture.

[B]

So Stacy goes, they're talking about someone who's really trying to harm Angel's family. And I, all I could think about was, I hope it's not Arabella. Oh my God, this person was trying to talk to Bobby. I guess I don't know what's going on. Oh, child old. So it's really steaming mad now.

[A]

It's Jazzy's bachelorette party and it's. It's the slot party, guys. Okay, so we have to dress in the slutty themed outfit. And last time we saw this was when Candace found out that Ashley was going to write a letter in support of Monique.

[B]

That's right. So people are meeting up and Stacy is kind of like wearing. It's not a dirndl, but it's like a little Oktoberfest, you know, it's not that slutty. It's just like, it's just like a German beer. Beer maiden out. Yeah, like beer garden that like hits like slightly above the knees or at the knees.

[A]

October fest. What a slutty day.

[B]

This is my interpretation of sluttish nightwear. When he's like, okay, meanwhile Wendy's like in leather and her boobs are out and like she's got like body oil on and like, like, like, like almost everything is showing. She's like, okay, that's, that's, I guess an interpretation of slutty.

[A]

Yes. And so now everybody's checking each other's outfits out. And Giselle is the ringmaster of a circus. And let's see, what is everybody. Ashley is an astronaut. Wacky.

[B]

This is fun and games. So this is where we get funny music and funny titles and funny Voiceovers. And someone used the video effect on Final Cut, which makes it look like old T. See, it's like. We call this filler material.

[A]

Yes. And then Tia comes out in, like, a full robe, and they're like, how is that slutty? And she's like, well, if I move my robe over to the side, you can see I'm wearing some old on fishing ed stockings. What is this, pornography?

[B]

This will get you banished from any royal palace in Nigeria. So then everyone's like, okay. And then it's just more of these like. Like these. These titles that they're giving each other. And it goes for a long time, and then they have straws. Yeah, a really long time. I was like, please don't let this be a harbinger of things that come. They have straws that have, like, vaginas on them. And he is like, oh, look at that. Look at these. It's like the Libya. I mean, the labia. The labia. Libya as a country. Oh, God. What the hell is wrong with me?

[A]

Let's start games. Who here hate Stacy? Raise your hand. God, I love this game. Angel is dressed as an angel, and she tells us. I'm trying to muster enthusiasm because I'm very excited for Jazzy to get married, but I'm really bothered by a conversation that we just had, and I'm tired.

[B]

Seriously. Angel also, like, is. Is her out? Her outfit's giving more Halloween costume than it is slutty to me. Right? Like, I guess that's like a slutty Halloween costume. But, like. Like, the angel wings, I don't know. Didn't really land as that. Just. It's not that it was slutty or unsloed. It just didn't seem like the right. The right execution of the. Of the theme.

[A]

Yeah, no, Yeah. I just. I don't know. Slidey outfit. What are you gonna wear? I'll wear my Captain Crunch underwear. That's all. That's all you're getting? That's all I've got.

[B]

I'm, like, scrolling through all this stuff. I can't even. Like. It's just. Oh, yeah, there it is. It was. Do you know how much I had to scroll through of this silliness just to get to the part that you mentioned with angel being sad? So I just did it.

[A]

And guess what? It's time to scroll some more. So let's keep scrolling.

[B]

Parties. So they're all having fun times, okay. They're doing silly things. Ashley takes some, like, takes a chocolate pan and she writes something On. On Jazzy's chest. And then she licks it off. And it's like, you know, lesbian. Ish. And it's exciting.

[A]

What's her. But Stacy, she spanks. She spanks someone, you know, in German. So she's like, she's funny because bitter is German. So they do. You're a bad girl.

[B]

I like when she says, I'm gonna do it the German way, which means hard and accurately. So it's all fun, and they're all having a great time. I will say one thing that is does not seem fake is that they're all laughing. They're hooting and hollering. They're having just, like, just the best time ever. And now it's time for angel to do something fun and wild. So she. Tia's like, oh, look, this is. This is gonna be really fun. And Angel's like, okay, you know what your crime is, Jazzy? She got what? Having a big mouth. Everyone's like, oh, it's a fight. Yeah, here we go.

[A]

So Jazzy's like, wait, do I have a big mouth? Maybe that's why I'm getting married.

[B]

Which is a good save.

[A]

Good save. Yeah, yeah. And try to make light of it, you know? And so angel goes, all right, that's that. So then she's double jointed, so she has her cuffs on, but then she brings. She brings her arms over her head. And everyone's like, oh, my God, that was amazing.

[B]

Yeah, because. Because angel had put her in handcuffs. And so it's actually kind of funny because Jazzy's kind of like, Cirque du Soleil move kind of overshadowed Angel's attempt to sort of fight. Everyone's like, oh, my God, look at Jazzy. She's double jointed. She's double jointed. Angel's like, but like, I'm sad. Does anyone want to talk about it? Yeah.

[A]

But of course, Giselle's not going to let her move past it because she's. They need content, you know? So she's like, okay, yeah, so you have a big mouth because you just have a big mouth because Darius is happy, or do you have a big mouth because she's said something that she's not supposed to say? Yeah. And Angel's like, not to you guys. Okay, so she's like, it's no shade. She has a big mouth. But this is your bachelorette, Jazzy. Let's have some fun. And Wendy's like, what do you mean, big mouth? I have a question. What were you guys talking about on the golf Course, does this have to do with big mouth? Because, Angel, I've never heard you like that before. And she's like, yeah, because, you know, now you're getting to know me, right, everybody? And I just don't normally talk to you. I just normally don't talk like that, do I? But, you know, I just. Somebody messaged her about me, and they gave her some incorrect information that she brought to me.

[B]

Me. So Jazz is like, I pulled her to the side, and I said to her, I heard that there were some instances where she really made people feel excluded and left out. But that's not the angel who showed me that who she is. That's not my experience with her. And so Jazzy tells us, you know, me and angel, we know a lot of the same people. And I didn't ask for information, but some of the people reached out to me and gave me the background on her, and they told me that she's not the nicest person. So angel goes, I'm gonna take over now. Elder. Elder Wag here, okay? I don't know if you guys will understand the story because you're not wags, but I'll try my best. Best. It's like. It's like, you know, Denzel saying to Tom Hanks in Philadelphia, speak to me. Like, I'm a six year old. Am I right? Okay, Wag talk now. Okay, so when I first started dating Bobby, he's a football player. You guys follow that part? I know non Wags, okay? A young lady reached out to me to welcome me into the circle in Chicago, and I started being friends with her. And then all of a sudden, his agent and his financial advisor and his mentor called him on three ways to say that I had stolen money from his account that I had hidden, and I had hidden birth controls that I could get pregnant with Bobby without his knowledge. And basically, this girl relayed information to Bobby's agent. You guys know that, like, sports agents are different than, like, entertainment agents. Just doing a wag check in real quickly. Okay? And then, like, when I found out that she did this, I let her have it for sure. And was it another Wag that came to you? Was it Jazzy?

[A]

Okay, what is this story? Okay, this is crazy. So the agent, the financial advisor, and the mentor called him on three ways to say she had stolen money from his account. Wouldn't the financial advisor have access to his account and know if this was true or not? But they're like, okay, this girl's talking about you. So she. Jazzy says, yeah, it was another wag who had an eyewitness to how you treated another person. And the things I heard was that she had a reputation of being mean and nasty to someone, and I didn't have the backstory. So it was concerning for me, especially after I got wind of saying that she didn't want me to come on this trip. So I'm like, should I be confident getting close to this person? And so did Jazzy tell her that all. That the woman said all this stuff? No, Jazzy just said, I heard you were mean. But then Angel's like, oh, really? Well, let me tell you what this woman did. She accused me of getting pregnant on purpose, tricking my husband, and stealing 30,000. Angel, what are you doing? You were so bad at this. Why would you bring that onto camera, you idiot? None of this was going to be brought onto camera. She did. So true.

[B]

It's idiotic. She could have said, yeah, there was this wag who, like, I had a falling out with, and she was accused me of all these crazy things that I did not do. And now she's trying to go to Jazzy and be messy. And I had to let her know that this woman is, like, a skank. But instead, she, like, gives all these details, and on top of that. And then Ashley's like, really? The women don't even seem to care because they're just more like. But you realize. Ashley's like, but you realize, like. Like, she brought you off camera instead of in the group because, like, we normally do things in the group and we humiliate each other. The fact that she didn't want to humiliate you is, like, kind of a big thing. Like, this is her audition season. Like, she could have gone to town on you. And, like, you're, like, not even realizing it. Angel's like, you have to understand. I'm just. What's the word I'm looking for? Starts with a T. I feel like I never say it. It's just not like me to say it. I'm tired at this point. I'm tired.

[A]

Chemo.

[B]

No, no, it's tired. TMO tired. No, that doesn't even make sense. I don't know why you said that. So Ash is like, but, babe, I mean, you're married, and you have two beautiful children. Ash is kind of like, look at the scoreboard. You've won. Like, yeah, you're doing these things. He didn't care.

[A]

Yeah. And Stacy's like, when did this incident happen? How many years ago? Was it before or after Arbella? And she's like, it happened in 2016. And goes, who cares? And Ashley tells us, ashley, who cares if you stole 30 grand from Bobby? He still married you. I mean, geez, relax. I like that they are all just assuming that she did steal the 30,000. They're like, why are you crying about it? You got 30 grand?

[B]

Yeah. This, like, potential scandal doesn't even, like, land with that.

[A]

It's just stupid because she brings it up herself. Like, Jazzy never even was going to bring this up, but she brings it up and then brings up all the details. Oh, my God.

[B]

God. Jazz is like, you know, I thought it was important to kind of pull her aside and be like, hey, girl, after getting this, you know, like, I think you're great, and I'm glad that I didn't prejudge you. And Giselle's like, so you're being upset right now, which obviously you are, and rightly so. It's about the situation, not a Jazzy. Right. And Angel's like, I don't know. They're like, what? Why would you be upset at Jazzy? I think angel is so in her head. I think she's playing a game of Survivor and no one else is, and she's just thinking someone has gotten to her head. Probably Kierna got into her head and said, you have to have your guard up with these girls at all time because anything they say or do is setting you up for an attack. You're never safe. Don't trust anyone. Everything will be used against you. And I think that angel is trying to play, like, 3D chess with everyone and try to stay, like, one step ahead. But what she doesn't realize is people aren't even playing checkers. They just. They. They already put the. The game away and they left the cafe. Like. But she's. She's, like, so paranoid that she's now. Now spiraling out of control.

[A]

Yeah. I think she figures, well, okay, now they're gonna bring up. Now this girl has gotten to Jazzy. So then either Jazzy's gonna bring it up or they're gonna bring this girl on to corner me about all of this. And after. So I'm just gonna get out on camera. Yeah.

[B]

And Bobby's gonna get mad, yada.

[A]

So she explains to us that she doesn't know Jazzy. For her to bring up something hurtful to her and her family in the past, she's really bothered because, you know, she tried to go on a fact finding mission to find out anything negative that she could about me.

[B]

Why are you, like. That's what I'm saying. She is. She is. She's adding that to the situation. Just, like, if you're trying to her. Angel's whole thing is, I want you guys to get to know me for who I am. Well, you should also, I think, like, go out on a limb a little bit and just trust that Jazzy was trying to do the right thing by you. And then if she wasn't, you can be mad at her then, but don't, like, whip up a potential scenario that you have no proof of, and then use that against her, and then you're going to cause bad blood, and then Jazz is not going to like you, and then you'll be like, see? I knew it. She never liked me in the first place. I knew I shouldn't have trusted her. It's like, give her the benefit of the doubt. If you're trying to build relationships with people, you got to, like, you know, lean in a little bit.

[A]

And this. This might have come up because Wendy would have been. At some point, Wendy would have said, what were you guys talking about in the van? Okay, so it would have come up, but it hadn't even come up. She herself was just like, you have a big mouth, and that's why you're getting handcuffed, like, begging them to ask her. So I just don't know. She's just not very good at this, I think. I think sometimes it's just as simple as that, you know? So of course, her response is like, I'm leaving. And she gets all upset, and, like, you're leaving? It's like, yeah, you guys have fun at your bachelorette body. But I'm late. So she goes and she's crying, and of course, stops the whole party, which wasn't that great anyway, but she stops the party, and now everybody has to stand around and be like, oh, my God. What's wrong with angels? Anybody gonna follow Angel?

[B]

So such a bad housewife. She's like a malfunctioning housewife. She's not even a bad housewife. She's malfunctioning. And I don't, like, know what's wrong with her. I just, like, she's so bad at this. That's why I'm like, I actually think she's so bad. It's fun, funny. Like, it's. It's hilarious to me how much she is screwing up everything. Like, there's some housewives that are just bad, and it's, like, not funny, you know, Gina and Emily. But then there's some who are just like, what. What are you. You're like, what are you trying to achieve? I don't even understand you right now. Like, you're so. You're so mystifying to me that I can't help but laugh.

[A]

Yeah. So she's outside crying, and so, of course, Kieran goes to follow her, and she's like, I'm talking to Bobby right now. I'm just. I'm talking to Bobby. And she goes, I know, but is everything okay? She's fine. Just please let me talk to Bobby. And now Giselle comes out. She's like. She's talking to her husband. She goes, okay, yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's like, by the way, she was telling Bob, though.

[B]

They. They. By the way, both of them do just, like, a very perfunctory check in. Like, Kira barely even seems. It seems like she didn't even want to go out there. Notice that when angel left, K just sat there. And then finally K goes out to check on her. But. But angel is telling Bobby. I'm just tired. Was shocked. I'm just tired from the constant back and forth inquisition of me. No one was inquisitioning you. You brought it up. In the middle of a time when everyone was having fun and laughing and bonding, and you brought it up.

[A]

So Kierna says that they're bonded because they're both overwhelmed by being new to the group. Like, Kierna, you're here three years. Stop. So then back inside, the ladies are worried about angels, so now it all becomes about. Worried about the. The crying person. And Kieran's like, guys, she's in a fragile space. Okay, Guys, just leave her alone. And Wendy's like, well, look, I know the rules of engagement with this. Whoop. Okay? And Jazzy could have brought that up in front of us, but she did it. She did a solid by doing it behind the cameras. And so everyone not mad at Jazzy. You did great. You did great, Jazzy. Congratulations.

[B]

Yeah, like, what Jazzy did was actually, like, that's a fireable offense, really. Like, Jazzy sacrificed her. Maybe that's why she's not a wife. Maybe that's why she's a friend of. Because she did something off camera like that. But they, like, they're really treating Jazzy like she is a military hero at this point. Like, what you did, the sacrifice you made, the way you found Matt Damon in the middle of France. Jazzy, we will always remember you and your sacrifice.

[A]

Yeah. And the episode ends with Wendy being like, told you she sucked. Look, at her. Like, all she's doing is crying. My God, like, she sucks so hard.

[B]

She sucks so hard. And the first episode, I thought she somehow I actually thought she had potential. I think if you go back, you listen to recap. I. I actually sound positive on angel and now I'm like, oh, my God, Angel. What? What a waste.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Inspire her.

[A]

I'm not amused. I'm just like, get rid of her. I think if they're going to bring this many people on to audition, they just need to start cutting people. Like in an audition. You know, person in the blue, stay. Everybody else go, well, guess what, Monique.

[B]

Monique Samuels is back next week. So everyone can get excited for that. Which it's funny because I actually believe controversially, I never thought Monique Samuels was like an amazing housewife. I always thought she was very mid pack. But they're treating her turn as if, like, everyone, it's the moment you've been waiting for. Monique Samuels. I was like, oh, okay, great. I mean, I'm happy to see her. I generally.

[A]

But it's good because it's, oh, she.

[B]

Left with a bang. She left with a bang. Her binder moment was like, like a truly iconic moment. And if she can come back with that energy, I'm down for it.

[A]

Yeah. And it's a big episode because not only is Monique coming back, so is Giselle's bodyguard, presumably. So that'll be fun.

[B]

Oh, and so is Ashley Darby's drag king Persona so topping was that what the name of it was? Top King.

[A]

Top of the morning to ya. That's Shannon.

[B]

Hell, we know what, we know what Shannon's dragon drag king personality is. And it's Bret Michaels. Yeah, just as long as they don't bring back Lydia's drag king personality. That's all I want. Just keep that tucked away.

[A]

All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. We will be back tomorrow later in the week on Patreon. We'll have the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills trailer. And tonight at 4:00pm Pacific Time is Amazon Live. Find links on Instagram and link in bio and we'll talk to you next time.

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Somebody get us 10cc's of Betsy MD.

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We'Re taking the gold with Brenda Silva.

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Let's get real with Caitlin o' Neal.

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Put us on a stretcher It's Charlotte Fletcher. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper can't have a meal without the Emily Sides.

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Who, what, why, where? And Gwen Pentland.

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Let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs.

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Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Hail the cork master the master of the cork Jennifer Corcoran. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish she's not harsh She's Jill Hirsch My Favorite Murdo Karen McMurdo.

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She's a total knockout Out. It's Katie Manock we love him madly.

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It's Kyle Pod Shadley in the study with a candlestick It's Leslie Peacock G It's Lisa H. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron. She's a whiz It's Liz Sarthi, always killing it It's Lola Al Kalani the.

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Incredible edible Matthew sisters She eases our woes it's Melissa St. Rose there's a chance of meatballs It's Rebecca Cloud.

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Maximum love for For Sandy Maximoska. She's the queen bee It's Sarah Lemke.

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We cannot tell a lie it's Sarah.

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Tell of son Shannon out of a can and Anthony please don't stop it's solely and pop let's take off with.

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Tamla plane we're obsessed all with Tessa.

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V. You'll always get the full story with Tori Parsons.

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