#3074 RHOSLC S608 Part 1: Fight or Flight Response

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3074

RHOSLC S6, Ep8 Part 1: Fight or Flight Response
Date: November 12, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie dive into a wild, drama-packed episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC), breaking down yacht trip antics, the infamous "extra dick" conversation, and the cast's explosive airplane meltdown. Dubbed the best episode of the season by both hosts, the recap is filled with their signature wit, detailed analysis, and trademark Real Housewives impressions. This is Part 1 of a two-part RHOSLC recap.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

BravoCon Announcements and Party Plug (02:20)

• Ben is attending his first BravoCon and details their free Las Vegas Watch What Crappens party and their role moderating a panel.
• Lighthearted banter sets the tone for the episode and builds excitement for listeners attending BravoCon.

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RHOSLC Critical Scenes Breakdown

1. The “Extra Dick” Conversation (04:45–08:32)

• Ben and Ronnie are floored by Bronwyn and Whitney’s dead-serious, non-producer-y chat about open marriages.
  • Ronnie (05:05): “You two are getting extra dick. Just say you're getting extra dick. You might as well at this point, just bring out the penis. And I loved it.”
• Discussion on how refreshing it is to see women on mainstream reality TV be real (and unapologetic) about alternative arrangements—traditionally a “gay thing,” per Ronnie, but now “the straight people are on the bandwagon, especially in Utah.”
• Ben sees remarkable authenticity: “Regardless, they could have been talking about, like, picking out a Swiffer from the store, and I still would have...had the same reaction.” (06:34)

2. Context of Utah—Swinging & Religion (09:00–10:44)

• The hosts riff about Utah’s “secret swinging culture” (Ronnie: “That’s their state flower, is a shared dick.”).
• A recurring joke about Mormon stereotypes and “innovations” like Countess LuAnn's forays into open relationships in past RHONY seasons.

3. Heather Gay and Captain Jason Rumors (15:36–19:55)

• Recap of Heather’s Watch What Happens Live appearance, where she hints at but denies sleeping with Captain Jason.
  • Ronnie (17:37): “Yeah, and it's not like she's not good enough or it's not anything like that. It's just the way she tells these stories, you know, it's the insinuation and the wink to the audience...”
  • Ben: “If they did [hook up], I don't care. I don't think they did. And I still don't care. Why?”
• Both hosts agree Heather’s “cool kid” stories are transparent attempts at attention, with Ben relaying a personal anecdote about people making up similar tales for social capital.

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4. Yacht Trip Fallout: Brittany and Group Drama (21:01–37:12)

4a. Brittany's Isolation and Meredith's “Brain Like a Pea” Jabs (21:01–25:14)

• Brittany feels singled out and “piled on,” comparing her treatment to classic “Hallmark” birthday cards: “Happy Birthday. TikTok says your husband's cheating on you.”
• Meredith’s insults about Brittany escalate. (“She has the brain aptitude of [a Disney princess].” — 22:06)
  • Ronnie quips: “Belle did nothing but read books. The Little Mermaid may not have been the brightest, but she had a nice voice...”
• Meredith can't recall the Tin Man from The Wizard of Oz, leading to jokes about NBCU missing a Wicked cross-promo.

4b. The Unicorn Overboard – Mean Girl Shenanigans (25:26–31:58)

• Bronwyn and Meredith conspire to don inflatable costumes and chuck Brittany’s beloved stuffed unicorn (“Uni”) overboard.
  • Ronnie (29:28): “This is very mean. I don't like it. You can't just take a 13-year-old's toys and throw them overboard. That's not cool. You can't destroy property. It's littering.”
  • Ben: “If you're going to be a mean girl, don't do it in an inflatable costume... And poor Angie. You destroyed her finger. That finger is, like, disintegrating.” (30:55)
• Hosts empathize with Brittany as the unintended butt of a joke.

4c. Breakfast Face-Off: Meredith Ices Out Brittany (32:22–37:12)

• Meredith literally turns her back on Brittany at breakfast.
• Banter and impressions of Brittany trying (and failing) to break through.
  • Ronnie (34:55): “Brittany's trying to have a scene too, but Meredith will not give it to her. She's just giving her her back.”
• Discussion of Brittany’s ineffective attempt to garner sympathy and Meredith’s long history of similar mean girl tactics.

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5. Post-Yacht, Pre-Flight Fallout (49:05–57:18)

• The unicorn is “found” and returned by yacht staff, soaking wet, revealing the prank.
  • Ben (50:35): “...the way her face dropped—like, her face drops a lot on the show—but the way it dropped this time was like...I felt like I saw her as a child...my heart kind of broke for her...”
• Ronnie and Ben compare Brittany’s response to Angie’s—a better “housewife” for standing up to mean-girl behavior.
• Brittany’s lack of assertiveness underscores why she’s better as a “friend of,” not a main cast member.

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6. The Infamous Airplane Fight – “Camera Down” Chaos (61:04–74:01)

• Classic Housewives “cameras down, tell the story” segment.
• The group recounts how Meredith unraveled at the airport and on the plane, continuing her campaign against Brittany.
  • Mary (62:04): “She was yelling and screaming and crying because Britney talked about her marriage and she was making a scene at the airport...”
  • Heather: “I was awoken by Meredith raging and making a scene. And she was just unhinged.”
  • Whitney texts: “Meredith is behind her, taunting her. She's fucking unhinged. She was talking loud about Brittany so that the entire first class could hear.”
• Ben and Ronnie are skeptical of the accounts’ most dramatic claims given the Housewives’ propensity for embellishment and lack of actual flight crew intervention.
  • Ronnie (66:27): “If Meredith was literally screaming and yelling and pulling someone's hair, she would have been kicked off the plane...I think if she got up behind her and grabbed her seat, she probably did do that a little bit.”
  • Ben (67:13): “It's a cast of unreliable narrators across the board...there must be a truth that's in between here somewhere. Like, something—not cool happened.”
• Theory: Production has footage but is saving it for reunion or letting listeners’ imaginations run wild.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the “extra dick” talk:

  • Ronnie: “You two are getting extra dick. Just say you're getting extra dick...” (05:05)
  • Ben: “...this is kind of amazing to watch right now. Like, regardless, they could have been talking about, like, picking out a Swiffer from the store...” (06:34)

• On Utah’s reputation:

  • Ronnie: “That’s their state flower, is a shared dick.” (09:00)

• On Heather’s Captain Jason story:

  • Ronnie: "It's the insinuation and the wink to the audience...maybe I did, maybe I didn't. I don't care." (17:37)

• On Mean Girl behavior:

  • Ronnie: “You can't just take a 13-year-old's toys and throw them overboard. That's not cool. You can't destroy property. It's littering.” (29:28)
  • Ben: “...that finger is, like, disintegrating.” (30:55)

• On Brittany’s fragility:

  • Ben: “...like, my heart kind of broke for her in this moment.” (50:35)
  • Ronnie: “...she's really got to stand up to Meredith now. Brittany did start it, just like I think Angie started it. But if you're gonna start it and you're gonna go up against the big dogs, you have to—yeah, I'm not gonna feel bad for you.” (52:20–53:29)

• The plane meltdown:

  • Whitney’s text: “Meredith is behind her, taunting her. She's fucking unhinged.” (64:16)
  • Ronnie: “If Meredith was literally screaming and yelling and pulling someone's hair, she would have been kicked off the plane...” (66:27)
  • Ben: "...I'm just, like, listening to all these stories, and I'm like, this is crazy." (65:46)

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Memorable Moments

• The hosts’ running jokes about Housewives' “mean girl antics,” especially in splitting the audience's sympathy for Brittany versus the rest of the cast.
• The blending of Disney/Wizard of Oz/Mormon/Utah culture jokes for both comic relief and insight into why the RHOSLC franchise continues to serve up unique drama.
• Their mockery of “camera down” segments and speculation about what occurred on the unseen flight segment.
• Ronnie and Ben’s improvisational riffs, especially as they spiral into song—itself a meta-nod to Housewives’ own performativity.

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Conclusion

Ben and Ronnie deliver a hilarious, empathic, and (intentionally) inconclusive recap of a watershed RHOSLC episode, pairing reality TV chaos with sharp commentary. They deftly balance joke-cracking and astute insight, unpacking why this episode feels both “campy” and “real”—and how it plays into broader Bravo and Housewives history.

This episode ends just after the recounting of the disastrous group flight, teeing up Part 2 with more fallout yet to explore.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• BravoCon Announcements: 02:20
• The "Extra Dick" Conversation: 04:45–08:32
• Heather & Captain Jason Rumors: 15:36–19:55
• Breakfast Face-off: 32:22–37:12
• The Unicorn Overboard: 25:26–31:58 / 49:05–57:18
• Airplane Drama: 61:04–74:01

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For More:

• Listen to Part 2 for the aftermath of the flight and further breakdowns.
• For exclusive bonus content: Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens

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[End of Part 1 Recap]

Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today on Bravo Con Eve, it's the one and only Ronnie Caram. Hi Ronnie, how's it going?

[Ronnie Caram]

Hi Ben, how are you hun?

[Ben Mandelker]

I am thrilled and excited. I'm going to my very, very first Bravo Con tomorrow. You've been before but I've never been. I'm a Bravo Con virgin. I'm so excited. I went around shop for outfits and looks and we are really excited. In case you missed the announcement earlier this week, we are doing a watcher crappin party that's going to be in Las Vegas on Saturday night at Beer park. It's at 10pm so there will be no conflicts with anything. Come join for a fun party that should go for hours and hours. We'll have special cocktails. Well, special cocktails. We'll have Jenny's ice cream. You know, there's no Jenny store in all of Las Vegas. So get your Jenny's ice cream at our party. By the way, it's also all free. This is not a thing you have to pay. There's no tickets or anything. Just show up and have fun. We gotta buy a great time. You gotta buy your booze. But entry is free.

[Ronnie Caram]

But let's get people too excited over there. Penises cost money extra. Okay? You will be paying for whatever penises are available.

[Ben Mandelker]

You will be paying for the penises. But beer park is in the. Is in the Paris Casino which is right close to all sorts of things. And we're gonna have a great time and we'll just like go hang out and we'll swap stories about everything we've seen and done that weekend. So come join us for that. We are so excited. Also this weekend on Sunday afternoon, we are moderating our very first ever panel at BravoCon. We are moderating the next gen New York City panel. So definitely come by and you know, ask some good questions because we'll be ready for it. You can hop on that mic. We're really excited. Excited to see everyone at BravoCon. So that's all the Bravocon news and of course the usual news which is that this recap is available on Patreon. We did a bonus episode this week where we did a trailer trash of Beverly Hills trailer that I think is coming out tomorrow. And yeah. Patreon.com watch for crappens. And that's the full. That's the full schmiggy.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

We've got. That's it. Now we got a. We have a Salt Lake City episode. What an episode to power us into BravoCon. I feel like Meredith Marks have to. She's going to be fielding a lot of questions this weekend and it's going to be real interesting to see how this all pans out. What say you, Rondell Caram?

[Ronnie Caram]

Good episode. That's the best. I mean there was so much. Have we ever seen two housewives sit down and talk about how they're gonna fuck other people on their old ass husbands? I don't think we have.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought that scene was extraordinary actually.

[Ronnie Caram]

I thought too it was a great scene. I was like, wow, that was. That was interesting. I can't for being so honest.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it was a Very honest thing.

[Ronnie Caram]

That felt like they weren't really that honest. Let's face it. They were doing that thing, like, if you're a cokehead and you're looking for somebody else to do coke with, you're usually like, yeah, you know, I don't really like that. And then you wait to see if they're like, I do. And then they pull it out and you're like, me, too. And then you go to coke together. That was what these two were doing with each other. They're like, you get extra dick? No, I would never. And if I did, I would talk to my husband first. You get extra dick? Oh, well, no, of course not. I would. Now, that time I did get extra dick was amazing. I love getting extra dick. Wait, you get extra dick? No, I didn't say that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I said if.

[Ronnie Caram]

If I could get extra. Yeah, I would never get extra. I'm getting extra dick. I was like, you two are getting extra dick. Just say you're getting extra dick. You might as well at this point, just bring out the penis. And I loved it. I thought it was great because I think it happens in so many more marriages than we think. And, you know, as a gay person, I always think, is this just a gay thing? That I think it's because, you know, gay people are like, I got some extra dick. Hey, how you doing today? Good. I got some extra dick. What'd you do? Got some extra dick. You know, that's how we are. But especially on a show like this, you don't hear that. That wonder if it's always gay people. But those straight people are just on the bandwagon these days, especially in Utah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we're just going to ignore the innovations of Countess Le Mandela. Saps. Fine. Fine, Ronnie. I mean, she was doing this years ago.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, that's true, but even she did it this way. First she was like, I would never get extra dick. I've got so much cl. Good God. I got extra dick the whole time.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I thought the scene was remarkable. First of all, I thought this was the best episode of the season. I thought it had, like, the campiness, but it also had some really genuine, genuine, real things that had controversy. But I thought that the scene with Bronwyn and Whitney was remarkable. Not even because they were talking about getting extra dick. It was remarkable because it felt like a very real conversation. It felt like they weren't hitting beats for producers. And it's not like I. I feel like these conversations are all super scripted, but there's a cadence to like, these Real Housewives conversations, and this one did not have that cadence. This felt like two girlfriends chatting and, like, sharing and bonding. I felt like they were literally. They were truly connecting over something. And we were just watching them, and they were. Seemed excited to have this commonality and excited to. To trade notes and to sort of like, they were checking in with each other. And I thought it was actually such a real moment that I, I, I was like, this is. This is kind of amazing to watch right now. Like, regardless, they could have been talking about, like, you know, picking out a Swiffer from the store, and I still would have, I think, had the same reaction.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, they were. They were talking about reaction out of FUPA from the store. You know, we're sharing your FUPA with other people. You know, Todd's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's be honest. I'm always gonna be more excited to talk about surfers than almost anything in the world. But I, I just thought it was. I thought it was actually really compelling TV to watch these two people fight. Like, Whitney and Bronwyn. Like, I never really see them as being, like, that close. And they had this moment that. That was, like, really cool to watch.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, they will be now. That's how, you know it's a commonality. Well, I don't mean it like that. Well, maybe, but I don't mean it like that. I just mean, you know, that commonality you find with somebody, it's like you can, you know, you can. Once you, like, share dick, it's just like a club you're in.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're in the club.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, we both, like, share dick. So, boom, we're on the same WhatsApp.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was also a masterful way of Bronwyn to tackle a rumor and diffuse it in, like, the span of a minute. Like, that's the sort of rumor that takes over an entire season. And instead, it just got sort of consumed by a larger controversy about a fight on an airplane. Because she addressed it, and then she was like, I would have been fine if he had told me, you know? And then it turned into a whole other story. So she did a kind of an amazing job.

[Ronnie Caram]

If you're kind of reading between the lines of what she's saying, it's like, oh, okay. Well, this puts everything into context for the season, right? Because it's like Todd was seen making out with this woman. Todd's doing this, Todd's doing that. It's like, oh, okay. So he was this whole time. And it's just that you knew it's one of those things, like, you can do whatever you want, but don't make me look stupid. Which I think is the basic rule in relationships like that. And Todd is just fucking that up left and right.

[Ben Mandelker]

You could do whatever you want. Just don't make me look stupid. Now, excuse me, I'm gonna change into a hot dog outfit.

[Ronnie Caram]

Don't make me look stupid while I'm in an inflatable dolphin costume on TV throwing someone's talking unicorn overboard. Okay. But it also puts into context a lot of the storylines we get on this show because Utah, as we've learned from ye olde television, is a swinging place. You know, everybody's like, oh, my God, the religion. Now we've got Heather Gay's Mormon show and the traumatizing religion and all of that. And, you know, all of this religion, religion. So everyone thinks of it like that. But share dick, that's their state flower, is a shared dick, because it's all over the Mormon state flower, the state.

[Ben Mandelker]

Deflower.

[Ronnie Caram]

Because it's all over the Mormon secret lives of Mormon wives. You know, there's that whole swinging scandal, but also this. A lot of people online are like, they're just stealing this from the secret lives. No ma'. Ams. No ma'. Ams. We are stealing this from this own show because this show started out with allegations, Meredith having. Meredith and Jen Shaw sharing the same guy that they were both fucking in New York. So. And then obviously, Seth is getting caught today doing whatever and whatever with an Uber. So it seems like this is just kind of a swing in town and everybody's doing it, you know, and.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God, something's happening to my chair. What is happening back there? How dare you say that there are allegations of me cheating. I'm going to shake your chair and protests.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, but that shit's been around forever. Oh, God, don't even. And then we'll get into the plain stuff, too, which, you know, of course I'm gonna get yelled at by the entire Internet, but I'm so.

[Ben Mandelker]

I. I can't wait to hear what your take is. I. I don't think you'll be surprised. I haven't settled on my take. I'm gonna say I've been thinking. I've been trying to think it through. I mean, I'd love to hear your insight. Everyone get ready for some classic Ben Mandelker rambling as I work through my feelings later in the episode.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes. Also, go check out a couple of things Ben has done on the Internet, which we haven't mentioned. Yet on this show. But you did a really funny BravoCon video, which harkens back to your classics of two years ago when I was at BravoCon and you weren't and instead made a video series about not being at Bravo Con, which was really good. And that is now on our Instagram and I'm assuming your personal Instagram. And also he did a really funny cartoon for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills this season, which was great because your cartoons are always good. But this was all new characters for you. You know, this was like the Orange county cast, which is new for you. And golden is like a best of all your jokes shoved in that cartoon. So it's really good things out. And I'm sorry I mentioned them before. Also, Ben has a giant wiener, so congrats. Congratulations to Ben on that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll be debuting my new Onlyfans this weekend, sneak peek at the Watch of Rapids party. So another reason why you have to come to it. Thank you, Ronnie. Thank you. That was so unnecessary.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, of course. Oh, and you know what? While we're plugging people, sorry to make yours less special, but we keep forgetting to do this too. We've done it before, but we're having our meetup. But also, Amy Phillips is doing Cabaremy at BravoCon. She's doing it Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It's such a good show. She's such a funny chick. You've got to go see her do it. I saw it last BravoCon. We will be there at some point. You know, this time to go check.

[Ben Mandelker]

Out one of the shows.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's such a good performer, a great comic, and she does great impersonations. She's gonna be at Planet Hollywood Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Just search Cabaremie. That's how I found tickets. Or you can find link in bio on her Instagram, which is Amy Phillips. Okay, so go to Amy Phillips.

[Ben Mandelker]

Meet Amy Phillips. Amy Phillips, is it? I think it's Meet Amy Phillips.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, just meet Amy Phillips on Instagram. Yeah, go get tickets for that because it's really, really funny. And we'll see you there.

[Ben Mandelker]

O yeah, yeah. Actually, I would say, like, thank you for the props on the cartoon and the. And the social media video. Those are just, like, fun things because I sometimes just like to be creative. But, like, more importantly, people support Amy Phillips. She has been a great friend to us and she's helped us out.

[Ronnie Caram]

She.

[Ben Mandelker]

She subbed in when both of us were vacationing over the summer. And she's wonderful. But more importantly, she's also, like, a great person and she's very funny. So go check out her show.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Good chick. Okay. Support good chicks.

[Ben Mandelker]

Good chicks. Yeah. Women supporting Women.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay. Wow. Women supporting women. Okay, let's get.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's talk about a show where they. How about I say, let's talk about a show where they. Where women are always supporting women from Salt Lake City.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, this was kind of a Women Supporting Women episode in a weird, roundabout way, because the women did support Britney. And Brittany's not the easiest one to support, you know.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, she's not.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, let's get going. So here we are. Heather's yacht trip, day three. Daisy is doing her normal intense thing where she's way too intense, walking around as the chiefs do, like, with her radio, where she's like. Okay. Okay, Captain. All right, Captain Jason. All right, everybody. We're doing it. We're doing it right now. All right, listen, 10 o' clock is breakfast. 9 o' clock is yoga. We've got it. Have we got it? Have we got it? Is everybody there? Daisy, calm down. This is the first thing in the morning. She's, like, fiddling with her thing while she's talking to the president of the Secret Service. President of the United States. Calm down, for Christ's sake.

[Ben Mandelker]

The eagle has landed. It's like an actual eagle. She's actually, like, bringing in an actual eagle. We do everything on a yacht, no question, is too big. So Heather is, like, so doing this yoga. And Heather's like, luxury to me, generally doesn't include athleisure. But this is a yoga session in a sisterhood that I could really get behind, if you know what I mean. Behind. Like, I would be behind. It's sort of weird, I guess, in this analogy, I would be, I guess, tagging Captain Jason. I don't know. It gets kinky, gets wild. So he tells us to breathe, and we're going to breathe. He tells us to bend, and we're going to bend. He tells us to dive deep into the world of Mormonism and trying to save people. And God damn it, I will have a surviving Mormonism spin off. It will happen.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm excited to see his downward dog. I'm hoping he'll warrior all the way over to me and inside of me and through me because I've totally fucked Captain Chase. Shut up, Heather. Okay, so Heather was on. Heather was on Watch what happens live. And Andy's like, okay, well, well, Andy. So it's Andy. So he's like, well, Heather, we just had Captain Jason on, and he said that he did not sleep with you. And she's like, what? He said that? I can't believe it. Well, I guess that should be a warning to whoever hooks up with Captain Jason that this is how he' going to deny it on tv. And so Andy goes, so what did you do with Captain Jason? She's like, nothing. But, you know, she, it's just so Heather, she's like, nothing. Except we did go on. You know, we were doing press together and he did guide us through the outback, you know, guided us through lots of different experiences. So it's a typical Heather thing where she's insinuating something and claiming another thing. It's Heather and her black light, her black eye lie over and over again on this show. And for anybody who falls for anything that Heather says, you're crazy. Have you seen the show? This woman does nothing but fucking lie. Every season, all season. But she does it with a big shit eating grin on her face. And everybody believes everything that she says. Do you think that she fucked Captain Jason? What do you think?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I don't think so. Also raise your hand if you're the person in America who cares if they did, like, who is tracking this rumor? Who is like waiting with bated breath to find out more juicy details? Like, if they did, I don't care. I don't think they did. And I still don't care. Like, I just like, why? Like, yeah, I feel like she's trying to drum this up, but like, I don't really see her. I don't really see her getting with Captain Jason, quite frankly.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, and it's not like she's not good enough or it's not anything like that. It's just the way she tells these stories, you know, it's the insinuation and the wink to the audience. Like, maybe I did, maybe I didn't. I don't care.

[Ben Mandelker]

That kid in drama.

[Ronnie Caram]

Stop talking about it and stop asking her about it. I'll bet that's going to be a big thing all weekend. Like, did they or didn't they? I don't care.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's this girl. There's this girl I used to know out here who was like, you know, she was, she was not very attractive. I'm just say this right? I. I have to. I feel like it's part of the story. She's not that attractive. And every time you saw her, she was always talking about a bartender who was like, totally into her. She's like, oh my God. I was just at Drago downtown. Matt. Yeah. He's like, the one of the chief, like, bartender, he's totally into me. And I'm like, okay, unprofessional. And she would always say this. And I'm not saying that a guy.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wouldn'T be into her. Unprofessional, just pour my drink.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she was always saying that. And, and by the way, I'm not saying, I'm not implying that Heather is unattractive. I'm saying that like this. I was like, we know you're just, you're, you're, you're tell this. We know this isn't true. And you keep on telling these stories like, like, you don't have to do this. And now I feel bad. Now I feel like I've made it sound like I'm saying that I'm. I feel like I'm calling Heather, like, out of Captain Jason's league. And I'm not doing that at all. I'm just saying it's like sometimes you can tell. You can tell when someone's just sort of like whipping up a story. And it's like, not like we know you're not telling the truth and we don't even really care either way. So. Why are you doing this to yourself?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, like, obviously it's not looks. I. Heather's a good looking woman. I mean, she's on a TV show being a good looking woman. I mean, it's not, that's not even.

[Ben Mandelker]

She looks amazing.

[Ronnie Caram]

But her personality is a girl who's always trying to fit in. She's always, you know, trying to be with the popular, the cool kids, you know, like, here I am at the cool kids table, you know, she's always trying to tell some story that includes her in that. And it's just so cringey. It's always been part of her personality. But, oh, and even if you did bang Captain Jason, who does that? Captain Jason's fucked like 30 people on Bravo. Everybody knows he's a man whore, you know, like, so I wouldn't doubt it in that way. But the thing is, like, even if you are fucking, who does that? Just like, be quiet. Mm.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know, my. Some couth.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So they're doing yoga and Heather is asking Britney how she feels. And she's like, well, I feel a bit sunburned and I feel whiplash, if that's what you're asking. You know, it's just hard, Heather, to answer your question, because I don't know, it's not just. It's just disproportionate the amount of pylon I get for doing the exact same thing as everyone else. You know, recording everyone behind their backs, perpetually lying, boring everyone with announcements about Jared. I just get so much pylon for that. And everyone does the same thing.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, which of course I yelled at the tv. You just brought up someone's husband having an affair from a TikTok, you fucking ding dong. And then Heather called her out on it. She's like, yeah, but you just called someone out for their husband having an affair. It's not really the same thing, you know? So we see a shot of Meredith and Lisa in their bedroom last night talking. And Meredith is like, oh, she is disgusting. Really? Truly, truly.

[Ben Mandelker]

For whatever reason, Lisa is like, she's somehow reversed. Lisa. Lisa Barlo is. She is like somehow. She's somehow like rotate turned around on the bed. Like her feet are up by the pillow. Or at his death. I was like, what happened to Lisa Barlow? And why are your dirty feet on your pillow right now, sir? Meredith is like, I mean, Britney. I mean, she thinks it's really cute and funny and she thinks she's a Disney princess. And you know what? She has the brain aptitude of one. That's right, Princess Jasmine. Don't at me. I think you're dumb. And same goes.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, I was kind of offended too. I was like, excuse me. Belle did nothing but read books. The Little Mermaid may not have been the brightest, but she had a nice voice, you know, Sleeping Beauty took a lot of naps. I mean, she must have had a Kindle.

[Ben Mandelker]

She slept all the way through High school. So I'm sorry, She's just not the brightest. She does not have brain cells. Let me tell you something about Cinderella. If she had brain cells, you would have gotten out of that fireplace many years before my.

[Ronnie Caram]

Rest my case, smart people don't wear glass shoes. So she goes, well, who was the person in wizard of Oz? Who was. They were just like, someone was missing their brain. That's who it is. I'm like, you can't call people stupid when you don't know who the Tin man is.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, someone at NBCU is getting fired. Like, you failed your. Your wicked marketing integration with Salt Lake City. She doesn't even know the Tin Man.

[Ronnie Caram]

I know someone over there is like, excuse me, this is wicked week on Bravo.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm surprised that when she said, what's the. Who is the one missing their brain that they didn't plug in Cynthia Rivo going, it's. There should have been more wicked stuff woven into this somehow, like a defying gravity or a just defying graph. Just defying gravity. Just different duets throughout the episode.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, the person missing their brain, that was the Tin Man. Yeah, I know him. He's been to Vita. He's been to the Tequila Lounge.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's why I couldn't go on, like, the opening trip, because I was like, oh, 10, man. Well, okay. Well, she could be Latin woman.

[Ronnie Caram]

Anyone?

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, well, you know, and Whitney, she doesn't even bring this to me. She doesn't shut it down. She doesn't have a problem with it. She's not my friend. Suddenly, Meredith is very concerned about people not shutting things down, which is hilarious. So back up at yoga. Britney is like, you know, I. I say something that I think is nice with good intentions, and it's this big freak out pylon. I mean, I think everyone knows it's like the classic Hallmark greeting card, which is happy birthday. TikTok says, your husband's cheating on you. Like, I don't get it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Your husband was something fucking somebody in an Uber. What do you want from me? It was just trying to be nice. Freak out pylon.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think you need to be prepared for a mountain of shit when you tell. Tell a woman in the sisterhood at dinner that her husband is cheating based on a TikTok.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Whitney's like, you're ruining my Zen.

[Ben Mandelker]

So downstairs, Bronwyn knocks on Meredith's door and she's holding the unicorn, which I believe is the unicorn. Just called uni. They really are not.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, they're calling it Uni. But I just want to point out that poor Britney, like, she cannot get any respect even by the crew on this boat because they're all doing yoga and she's the only one without a match. She's like, doing it straight on.

[Ben Mandelker]

The captain Jason has to bring it over. And she still has, like, her markings on from, I think, her zombie makeup last night. So she just like, like, looks crazy.

[Ronnie Caram]

Her weaves a mess. I mean, she just looks. Poor thing. She really. She is more scarecrow than tin Man. She just looks. She's like all of them.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like the entire cast of supporting characters. She's the lion, she's the scarecrow, she's the tin Man. She's maybe even a poppy. I mean, she's. She may be a brick from the road.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know, she's the one that was crushed under a house. She's all of them.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's a munchkin. She's the cow in the tornado. Blonde by. She's the whole gang. So Brahmin's like, meredith, I come bearing gifts. I've got you need unicorn. She's, oh, well, that's a gift. I can do without Broadway. And I hate to be, like, ungrateful and gracious for it, but. You may not realize it, but I'm having a fight right now, and I'm talking it out with Lisa. Oh, well, no, this is. It's actually more of like a sacrifice. Oh, a sacrifice. Oh, in that case, come on in. Entre vu, Tell me more.

[Ronnie Caram]

I love a sacrifice. And so she's like, well, first of all, are you okay? Are you okay, Meredith, are you okay? Let's nod together. I'm like, oh, God, here we go with two bobbleheads in one room. One scene. This is going to be a lot of different nodding because Ron wins is like. And Meredith's is like, so. She's like, so, are you okay, Meredith? And Meredith is like, well, what am I worried about? Someone with a brain the size of a pee?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, not really.

[Ronnie Caram]

Not really? No. Like, come on, come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pea size brain. And by that, I mean the vegetable pea, not an actual letter P. We're still working on our letters with my toddler. So we only talk about things that get mashed up and put in his mouth. So Brahman says, well, I have. You know, I've told her so many times, meredith, don't start stuff. She says, meredith overreacted again. And another example of her going 0 to 100. And I was like, well, you put yourself in that position, or rather you vented to me and then I put you in that position and you came to her with this. This was you. Well, no. When I see a woman who's filled with hate, especially if she's got a little metal funnel on her head, tan woman, hashtag, coming after me over and over again, I'm gonna respond and take her own hate and shove it up her. You know what, if you know what I'm saying about her? What?

[Ronnie Caram]

She can shove that up her pee, which is not the letter P or the vegetable P. You decide what P. I mean, now Bronwyn's saying, yeah, I've told her, don't start stuff. You know, she's like, you were the one who started all of this, Bronwyn, on purpose. You started a fight with Meredith and Brittany on purpose. And now she's like, I'm just trying to help Britney. The people on this show are so fucking full of shit. And it cracks me up. Each and every one of them is so fucking funny with this, like, I'm just trying to help her. Look at me. Sweet old Bronwyn telling her, stop starting stuff. You started it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Bronwyn is like, okay, well, do you want to shove something somewhere? Because I've got the unicorn. And it was, well, what do you have in mind? Well, I don't know. Meredith, this is so weird. Is this our first conversation we've ever had together? Perhaps. Well, I feel like this is a bad idea, but I don't know. Well, do you. You think that uni floats? Did you say, I want to swim?

[Ronnie Caram]

It's like, no one will ever, ever love you. Like me love Jared, cousin of Donny Osmond. She keeps pressing the button. Rowan's like, oh, my God, this is so evil. Should we do it? Let's throw Yuni. Let's get rid of Yuni. Let's do it. And so they decide that they're going to put on wacky outfits, inflatable outfits, and go throw the unicorn overboard. I think this is very mean. I don't like it. I mean, I know it's housewives and you know, they do shady stuff, but this is like someone's property. And this, you know, you're talking about Brittany. She's got the mental aptitude of a 13 year old. And you can't just take a 13 year old's toys and throw them overboard. That's not cool. You can't destroy a property. It's littering. It's also littering. Yeah, okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, you know, Ariel, talk about hello Disney Princess Ariel's. Right there. And, like, you're throwing into her house. And that's just not nice. I mean, she would love it. She literally would love it. She'd be like, oh, my God.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's a.

[Ben Mandelker]

What's in a. Called. But don't do that. It's not nice.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's, like, brushing her hair with it. It's like, if you do cousin of Donnie.

[Ben Mandelker]

This would ruin the little. The Little Mermaid, because then she would be pining for Jared Osmond. Ariel would be his perfect wife. Just says nothing and looks pretty, though.

[Ronnie Caram]

Ariel. Ariel, yeah. She can't speak. It's like his perfect one. His perfect.

[Ben Mandelker]

But. But also, if you're going to be a mean girl, don't do it in an inflatable costume. Like, you already had your inflatable costume moment. And. And poor Angie. You destroyed her finger. There's one point in the episode where Angie's talking and we see her bandage. There's, like, blood spots. It's like. It's still bleeding. It's, like, orange, and it's, like, discolored. I was like, this lady needs to go to a hospital. That finger is, like, disintegrating.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's infested. There's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's not do this all over it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, like, let's not do it. So Meredith is like, well, I guess I can't throw Britney overboard, but I can't throw uni.

[Ben Mandelker]

So. Yeah. So there. So Meredith and Bronwyn, they're getting dressed as, like, a pink shark and a lobster. And Meredith is, like, putting on her inflatable costume. And then, like, sort of midway through, she's like, what am I. What am I supposed to. This isn't couture. Wow. This is. This is the craziest thing I've ever worn. Now, someone find me my bejeweled mask. Thank you.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So they go out and they throw it overboard.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

They get rid of it. And we see Jared's voice. We hear Jared's voice in the water. Like, good night, baby. You. So now it's breakfast. And you know, because Daisy's on her radio going, like, all right, it's breakfast. They're all set. I need everybody up here for breakfast.

[Ben Mandelker]

Have the croissants risen, because I gotta serve them. So everyone gets to the table, and Whitney's like, everyone is quiet. Is everyone tired? And then everyone's still quiet. Okay. Meredith, how's your toe? Well, it's sore. I think I'm gonna have to see a doctor when I get back. Thanks for asking. Surprise. You're able to string together two syllables with your pea sized brain.

[Ronnie Caram]

But I'm a survivor. I'm not gonna give up. I'm a survivor. Keep on surviving in all right? And I'm strong. I can deal with a lot of hatred being thrown at me, so I can deal with it. Trevor projects love. You mean it. Call me. Can't bring me down.

[Ben Mandelker]

Who's Trevor? Is he single? By the way, I have a hard time with hatred, actually. I have a hard time. Well, you're filled with it, Brittany. Well, who says I'm filled with hatred? Well, no, we're not gonna go there. Whitney, Britney, Brittany. Wait, I don't know which one of you guys is talking to me, but. But I've decided that right now I'm at Whitney, so I'm just gonna rotate my chair and pay. Pay Britney no mind. Now this is hilarious.

[Ronnie Caram]

You're filled with hatred and that's like in a clear complaining about being filled with cream. No eclair hates crane.

[Ben Mandelker]

What people don't realize about the Tin man is that yes, he doesn't have a brain, but he's filled with hatred. He's the most hateful character in the entire wizard of Oz.

[Ronnie Caram]

What were you going to say about Whitney? I wanted.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I was just going to say I love chocolate eclairs.

[Ronnie Caram]

Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please. I think chocolate Claires always get the right of way. Like that's like always stop everything to talk about chocolate eclairs. Somewhere in the, in the middle of this, Meredith kind of like rotates away from Britney because of course she's sitting right next to Britney. I don't know if the producers are like assigning the seats, but they keep on sticking the two of them right next to each other the entire trip. So now Meredith is like turned away and she has her kind of back towards Britney. And it is so funny at this point. It's like very funny to me because this is before we get to the darkness of the flight. But like the way that she. She's just icing out Britney, it is very mean, but it's also so Meredith Marsh. Like I'm not gonna ignore the twin that's behind me. And I was just cracking up and Brittany's just trying to say stuff and she's like, again, I can't even get through to her. This like the entire sc. Meredith is talking. Britney's sort of like in the background doing running commentary. I was like, this is.

[Ronnie Caram]

Brittany's trying to have a scene too, but Meredith will not give it to her. She's just giving her her back. I mean, look, I'm sorry. Yeah, it is mean. But what do you think is going to happen when you do that? I mean, this is a show everybody knows. You bring up someone's husband is fucking somebody else, which I think it's happened to 90% of this cast by now. You're allowed to get mad and turn your back on someone. So so far then the episode, I'm with you, I'm like, yay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, and also because Britney is one of the. Britney's problems is that she's trying to frame it like she was doing a good deed. She's like, she's trying to do what Heather did to Lisa. She's like, no, I was a really nice thing. I brought it up so that way she could talk about it. No, no, no, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

Right, so. So yeah, she turns her back to her and Britney's like, well, I mean, who would even say that I'm filled with hatred. That's just ridiculous. And so Meredith is like, we're not going there. We're not going there. Okay, Whitney, Brittany. Brittany, Whitney. So she turns to Whitney, she turns on Whitney. She's like, my problem is with Whitney, with me, it's not surprising. This little pea brain behind me I barely know.

[Ben Mandelker]

But however, one thing can I say, I literally. Can I just say like one thing that I literally suck. Can I just say like one thing right here? No.

[Ronnie Caram]

She doesn't even know how to stop talking.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm a hater. I'm a pea brain hater. I love peas. They're a delicious legume.

[Ronnie Caram]

But what are you mad about? That I talked about it. Wait, are you mad that I talked about it? And then we see a flashback to one day earlier where Whitney sees the TikTok with Britney and Meredith is like, well, the problem is that we spent the last few days as a group on granny saying that you were the one who really led the campaign, Whitney. I mean, is this a headline or is this some little troll on the Internet that's like no one has ever seen? Why do the lines keep changing?

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't throw Whitney under the bus. Don't do that. That's not nice. Don't throw her under the bus.

[Ronnie Caram]

No. Shut up. I don't even hear anybody behind me. I'm not talking to you under the bus.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's all I'm saying. Just. Okay, just be mad at me. That's fine. Just be mad at me. You know, it's fine. I'm just gonna sit here like a princess.

[Ronnie Caram]

But wait, you don't have to say anything, Britney. I've got this. This is easy for me to clear up with her. Yeah, well, she doesn't even exist. My point is, you co signed it and you didn't tell me, and that is not what a friend does.

[Ben Mandelker]

She did not co sign it. I'm sorry. It looks that way. I told Brittany, you have three choices. First, paper, second, plastic, Third, bring a box from home, and then you can carry whatever.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wait.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, about this.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, you have three choices. Ups, Drop off Center, Whole Foods, where you'll have to bring your own box and. And label or pick up, which cost 6.99.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, wait, no. Three choices. Grande, tal venti. I guess there's Trenti's. That's four choices. Can we start over?

[Ronnie Caram]

But you either didn't say it, you didn't acknowledge it, or you don't acknowledge it. But either you tell Meredith or I tell Meredith, she goes, oh, so that way you were trying to do the best thing. You were trying to do the right thing to the best of your capacity. Okay, Trying to play a friend. Both. Giving her a chance. Chance to come clean on her own. Because she's a gossip behind my back.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's the exposition. Yeah, she's like, I know where. I'm just gonna speed this up for you, Whitney. Yeah, yeah, because I wanted to give her the chance to do the right thing. Just like spoke Lee, you know, the tick tock was nothing but merit. Meredith's reaction is making it a huge thing now. No, she's pouring fire on the gasoline. No, she's fine. She's pouring gasoline on the deck. No, Gasolina, you get it.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so Brittany's like, well, but it's a double standard that anybody can say all kinds of stuff about people's husbands. And I say one thing that's meant to be in kindness. Well, first of all, no one said anything about you or your. I mean, they say things that Britney's. Your boyfriend's a loser, but only because you tell them, like, you break up with him every week. They're trying to support you. That's them being kind. But nobody's come out with any gossip about Britney, and there's plenty. No one's come out at her about her kid or anything like that. In a mean way at least.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, well, here comes the liar.

[Ronnie Caram]

Bravo.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bravo. That's actually a pun. You're welcome, everyone. So then Daisy, and because in the.

[Ronnie Caram]

Middle of it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Alicia, like, serves some dishes and she goes back downstairs, she tells Daisy. They're literally so they're honestly so noisy. They're the loudest people I've ever met in my life. I would hate to be hungover around them.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So back at the table, Britney's like, this is ridiculous, you guys. This is Meredith. Ha ha ha. Blah, blah, blah. And she's, like, kind of imitating her and bumping into Meredith, and she goes, if you touch me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Meanwhile, Meredith has flicked her hair over her shoulder into Britney's face like, five times. And Brittany does it, like, once. Don't you dare touch me. Do not touch me.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now they're pointing at each other, and she's like, you touched me. You did this to me. You're flipping hair at me. And so they're pointing at each other. And Brom was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, Britney. No, no, no, no, no. She's trying to stop her. And so Whitney offers to switch seats with Meredith, which is nice, and which would have been nice if this were extended later on in the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I read my exact same thought, by the way. Why did no one switch seats with Britney?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, they're like, we feel so bad for her, so we left her. You know, it's like, the hell. So Whitney offers to switch seats. So Meredith is like, well, I think that would be a wise idea, because I don't need to be near people who are filled with hate. They disgust me.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're filled with hate. You can go from 0 to 100 in 0.2 seconds. Yes, I can. I can't. And I don't like people who are filled with hate. Everybody at this table knows that. So Britney is like, yeah, but like. And you. Yeah, and yeah, only someone who's filled with hate can do that. Can go. Can get really angry so quickly. And at this point, Bronwyn, who just threw out this girl's unicorn into the ocean, is now, like, gathering Britney in a comforting way. Like, no, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

Stop, stop, stop.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's trying to be, like, comforting like a buddy. She's like, I'm trying to help you. Take a deep breath because it's gonna get worse for you later in the episode. So this is nothing. Just take a deep breath.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, Bronwyn is pulling a Heather here, acting like she's just being nice to Britney this whole time. She's like, look, I'm just trying to help you, even though I started this whole fight for you yesterday and got Meredith on you. But she's acting like Britney's the one doing too much. Brittany is not the one doing too much. Meredith is the one Doing too much. Why is Meredith allowed to yell and scream and call people stupid? But then you say anything back to it, and it's like, no, no, no, no. You're just gonna make her more upset. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Brown's like, I'm. I'm trying to tell her to start with an apology. Well, I am done with her, and you guys want to support her, then I'll be done with you too. And Heather goes, are you kidding me? In this sisterhood, you would say that? Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm not. No, I'm not. Yes. You can't just say, yeah, no, I'm not. Because those are contradictory words, Meredith. I can't even say my name properly. This is absurd. This is not fourth grade. This is not a dodgeball team. This is a sisterhood of people who are surviving Mormonism. And for Meredith to be okay and to move from on from Lisa digging up dirt about her family, she can apply the same spirit of resolution to her conflict with Britney. Or alternatively, she can get mad at Lisa like the rest of us can because we're doing the hard work in the trenches right now.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, Heather. So this is not a dodgeball team. So she's mad because she's saying, if you're going to be friends with her, I'm not going to be friends with you. Well, first of all, Heather does this all the time. She does it with people. She's doing it with Monica currently, which I'm sure Monica could be like, you know, with that. She could be like, she stalked us. She, blah, blah, you know, what she goes off on. But she was also like that with us. Like, you better not nominate her for a thing or whatever, so you're kind of a hypocrite. And then for her to say Meredith is okay that Lisa dug up dirt about her family. What dirt? That was never proven. This is another Heather that was never proven that she said she dug dirt up on Meredith. Where do we have proof? And what is the dirt then? If there's dirt? So I don't like that being thrown in there into evidence, because that's totally unproven. And it's just another case of Heather saying something over and over until people believe it. So then Angie's like, well, I'm not. I'm not supporting what she did, but I need to remind everyone. And Meredith's like, well, because we spent two days saying, we're not doing that, didn't we? We just said, we're not gonna go on tiki talkie. And Bring up things on our people's ass, and then she's doing it. So you're all fine with that, then? You're all fine with that?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I just meant to say we need to remind someone to find a doctor for me. I think I have developed gangrene in my finger, as we call it. Gangrease.

[Ronnie Caram]

Of course, we don't support her showing us a TikTok. You know, Angie's dying of gangrene. No one cares. I just wanted to acknowledge that you said gangrease because that was actually hysterical. Mandy's like, well, we can't support gout Dick. And Meredith is like, well, break the cycle. And you know what? This one. This one leads a bad example. And please, please stop singing K Pop Demon Hunters on TikTok. It's extremely disturbing to my ears. Have you seen that Britney being like. Because we're golden under the sunlight. Oh, we are golden.

[Ben Mandelker]

She doesn't like Mormon Tabernacle Choir. We're going up, up, up to yacht, Yacht, yacht.

[Ronnie Caram]

Looking for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Meet me. So Heather is.

[Ronnie Caram]

Saigon. I don't want to hear your K Pop Demon hunters crap. Keep it to yourself, Heather.

[Ben Mandelker]

I disagree. I would. I love listening to her sing her semi, like, faux opera, semi show tune. So we're just gonna throw Britney overboard? I am. I will gladly do that. Well, I'm a good swimmer, so throw me overboard. It's hot in here. Like, Mary, can you say something as, like, a mother or a woman of God here? Can you fix this, please? And she's like, they're not gonna listen. They're not gonna listen to God. They're not gonna listen to anyone. If God came down and smacked them in their face, they wouldn't even snap out of it. They're so busy trying to get their point across, and it's a disaster. It's just a disaster. No, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, well, while you guys take a break in fighting, I'm gonna go change and get packed so we can get off the boat. And when he up, my friends. So they all go change, and Britney is looking around her room packing, and she's like, where's my unicorn?

[Ben Mandelker]

Where is it? I know this is. I feel just bad for Britney's daughter because I feel like Britney seemed to show more emotion about trying to find her unicorn than finding her daughter. So Angie is like. She's. She's telling the deck. And she's like, I'm going to miss your. Your legs. Remember when I clutched onto them and puked all over them? That was hilarious. This. And then Bronwyn is like, the best part about leaving this vacation is the knowledge of knowing I won't be traveling with these women because I changed my original flight and didn't fly with them. And I had to rebook everything, including my flights home. So I picked one where I'd be solo. So it's almost like I knew I'd be sick of them at this point in time. But you know what the irony is? I wonder if she had stayed on her flight, if she would have been seated next to Brittany and could have saved her since apparently no one else was willing to do that.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, and also, if you cancel one flight, you don't cancel both flights. I don't understand why she would have had to rebook her flight. Is that something?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. It may. May maybe the round trip. I don't know. Sometimes things are weird. It's like, you know, if you have a layover, like the. If you cancel the first leg or if you miss the first leg, you lose all. Both legs. Even if you can take another flight to catch up with the second leg. You know, guys, I don't know, it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Sounded like an excuse to me, but I was like, I would do it to. To, you know. Yeah, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know why I chuckled, but when she said that, I chuckled like, hahaha, that's so true. I was like, speak the truth, sister. And I drank some more red wine.

[Ronnie Caram]

Some more red wine? Were you really sitting there drinking red wine?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I just, I'm like, I felt like I. I felt like I was in Cougar Town watching the tv, being like, oh, that's so true. I love that. But first coffee, Am I right?

[Ronnie Caram]

So now, everybody, it's the goodbye section of Below Deck. Everyone's saying bye. Meredith gives Jason her hat. And so basically thanks and whatever, they leave the tip. So then Heather gives her speech and she's like, guys, this has been so amazing being around so many people on our journey of sisterhood. They're like, oh God, the boat's pulling away because we're sick. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, and you know what? I do want to apologize on behalf of my friends. So there. Christina Applegate, are you happy? Are you happy? She apologized. Can we all move?

[Ronnie Caram]

Christina Applegate is at home. Like I told those.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's also town moment. She's also drinking her red wine.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now Britney is like, oh my God, I can't believe it. Oh, Brittany. Daisy's like, oh, I forgot something. Everybody stop, stop. Don't get onto Your bus. I've got something inside for you. So she runs inside and she comes back out holding the unicorn. And Britney's like, wait a minute. I thought that was gone. I thought it was lost. Wait a minute. Why is this wet? And she's like, well, it was in the water. We found it in the water.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was sort of hoping that days would be like, I forgot something. Hold on. And she just comes out, wheeling out. Gary. Like Hannibal Lecter in a straitjacket. I've been in bravo jail, but I'm back. But Britney looks genuinely crestfallen. I actually. I'm not gonna lie, the unicorn is so stupid. But when she gets. And she realizes it's wet and that they threw it in the water, there's something about, like, her. The way her face dropped. Like, her face drops a lot on the show. But the way it dropped this time was like a weird. I felt like I saw her as a child and I. I don't know, like, my heart kind of broke for her in this moment. I was like, yes. This was all kind of like, you know, it was a little produced. Like, okay, everyone, like, have Brittany bring a unicorn on the boat, and then you guys throw it out, like, later. But there was something where I feel like she just. She realized she was the butt of, like, a big joke. And I don't know, I felt bad for her.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, I wouldn't say my heart broke for her, but, yeah, I felt. I mean, I feel kind of bad for Britney, but, you know, she starts it, too. She starts it, but she just starts these wrong fights with these people. And I don't know, you know, if you're gonna go against. I have to compare it to kind of Angie, because, you know, Angie was in the same position when she came home. Nobody. Nobody gave her any mind. They all made fun of. They all treated her like a big joke. Meredith especially, wouldn't speak to her. She was doing the same thing she's doing to Britney now, where she was turning her back on her. And, you know, she was just treating her like shit and mean, girling her really hard. And. And of course, what I thought you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Were gonna say how Jen Shaw literally threw her shoes in the water off.

[Ronnie Caram]

Of a boat as well. She did that as well. Yeah. I mostly edit Jen out of my memory as much as I can because she always made me crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

But.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, but Meredith was really particularly mean to Angie. But then Angie. Didn't Angie start some stuff with Meredith about Meredith's husband cheating? I don't even remember what I mean.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hot on Meredith, but. But by the way, I felt bad for Angie when it happened to Angie on that episode too. I felt even worse when Jen Shaw like you know, spilled a glass, not poured a glass of champagne on Angie's head just to humiliate her because she needed to fill some dead air. And now that we all know and love Angie K, it's actually even more harm horrifying because we know like what, we know who Angie K is. Meaning that like as an audience. Horrifying.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Horrible horrifying. I listen, I love me Meredith some. Meredith marks one of my favorite house of all times. I know you're not saying that and I think that Britney is one of the biggest ding bats of all time. But regardless of those feelings, I just felt really bad. I thought the unicorn was so stupid.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, I guess my point is like she was doing this to, she was doing this all. We've seen Meredith do this before, right? So we've seen her do it to Angie. And Angie's way of dealing with it kind of made her a star of the show. Angie was like, no, fuck you. And she would come up right behind her and still yell right behind her and then try and get in her face again and then call her a trampoline with eyes. And then like she was not taking it and she really stood up and she was really strong and made that made her season, you know, I mean that made her a housewife. That all of this bullying was terrible that Meredith did. But then it also, it also turned Angie into like a bonafide housewife. Right. So I'm only comparing that because how Brittany's dealing with it is just not gonna, it's not gonna work. You know, she's really got to stand up to Meredith now. Brittany did start it, just like I think Angie started it. But if you're gonna start it and you're gonna go up against the big dogs, you, you have to. Yeah, I'm not gonna feel bad for you. You know what I mean? It's a sport. So I'm not gonna sit here on the sidelines and cry for you. This is a sport. You were the one who started this play. And if play get the off the fields. You started it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I, I, I, I agree. I think that Britney is very inapt as a house, as a fight starter because she sort of starts them and she doesn't really know how. Like she, she's not ready to go to war. She kind of like she cast the first stone, but then she's really bad at, like, holding her own. And that's sort of been kind of her charm and everything. But you really see here, like, she just doesn't. She's. She's just. She doesn't have what it takes to really get in the mix. And that's why she is basically, I think, a friend of she. And I think she. Her role as a friend of is good. Like, that's her lane. But like you said, Angie, you know, like, you know, attack dog comes out. Not calling women dogs. I'm just using the metaphor of, like, you know, or mama bear. Mama bear is a better word. Better phrase for it. But. But Britney just sort of crumbles. But, like, it's. It's because. And it's like, it's her inability to actually do what Angie was able to do or other people have been able to do, which actually makes me my heartbreak for her a little bit. She's just like. She's so limited, and I feel bad for her because of that.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's limited. But, yeah, you know, it's not. And I'm not talking even at the plane yet, because we're not even there yet. But at this point, I'm just like, brittany, girl, if you can't. You know, I think throwing the unicorn overboard was too much. And I do think Meredith is taking this all and always does take it way too far. But don't start it. Don't start it with the big people. If you can't take it, Brittany, you know, don't do it. So anyway, so they go off the boat, and Britney is now upset because someone threw the unicorn over. So she's like, you guys, who threw this over? Who would do this? And Brom was just kind of slinking back, you know, like, yeah, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

She realizes that, oh, this is not landing well. She's like, it was.

[Ronnie Caram]

Was.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was a joke for. You weren't part of the joke, but it was a joke for us. And, like. And Marvel. I was with br. She's like, you were with Brahman.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Uni wanted to swim. And, you know, you got Tanner and makeup all over him. And you little dip in the ocean.

[Ronnie Caram]

That's it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm doubling down on the joke. Okay. It's called. Yes, Anding myself and Bronwyn's like, yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

I was supposed to just be a joke that made you laugh. I mean, you didn't know about it, and you never saw the unicorn. You never found it, so you couldn't laugh at it. But it was still a joke. We thought you'd laugh at it. Thought you'd think it's hilarious.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just think it's really cruel. She tells us. I just think it's really cruel for someone to try to ruin my gift. I mean, Jared went to great lengths and made a personal message. And then this point, I was like, okay, Brittany, you know, you had my sympathy. But, like, this is where she always loses me, because she just always feeds us some line of bullshit right afterwards. Like, you did not go to great lengths.

[Ronnie Caram]

Of course there's part of me that's just heartless. I mean, that's the biggest part of me, let's face it. But the heartless part of me, me was just watching this, thinking, well, you know, that unicorn knows how your kid feels, so fuck off. You know, because there's part of me that's, like, not gonna be okay with Brittany because of that shit with her kid. Like, I'm just not okay with it. I'm not gonna feel bad, and I'm so sorry for your unicorn, but now you know how your fucking kid feels. And there. So there kind of.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yep. So she's like, but he likes steamers.

[Ronnie Caram]

The uni likes steamers. How could you do this to uni? You remember liking steamers, don't you?

[Ben Mandelker]

I can never sleep without you without you again.

[Ronnie Caram]

My darling. This is Joe, cousin of Donnie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your steamer is loved. I am a soldier of love. That sounds a banger. I feel like there's young people in this world. I feel like probably millennials, but especially Gen Z, who don't know that Donny Osmond in 1988 or 89, released a true banger of a song called Soldier of Love. And if you don't know it, you should look it up and make it a thing on Tick Tock because it is a great song. It is really great. It holds up to this day.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Yeah. Donny Osmond. I mean, listen, Donny Osmond's a hero. And anybody who doesn't believe it needs to think about this. It was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and black and ochre and peach and ruby and violet and russet and fawn and lilac and gold and chocolate and. And green and. Oh, darn it. Oh, my God, did I forget the colors of the amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? No.

[Ben Mandelker]

Go, go, go, Ronnie. You know what they say? Go, go, go, Ronnie. You'll make it someday you and your lyrics be reunited at once. This is just a moment. You'll get it again.

[Ronnie Caram]

It was red and yellow and green and Brown and scarlet. Oh, my God. Green and yellow. No, it was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and gold and russet and gray and. Oh, my God. I.

[Ben Mandelker]

What about the bench?

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm a gay person anymore. Do I like vaginas now? I might.

[Ben Mandelker]

But we're going to Vegas, so you can experiment. That's also the musical that has a song. There are not a lot of songs about Ben's. There's a Michael Jackson song. So I, you know, I appreciate having the pedigree of Michael Jackson, but it's a song about a rat. But we do have a song in. In Joseph that's about a Ben and I appreciate that. That's like my one song that I have. Oh, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not he.

[Ronnie Caram]

How's it go?

[Ben Mandelker]

She goes, oh, no. It's a calypso song. Not he. Oh, yeah, Benjamin. They're like trying. It's like all the brothers are being like, no, Benjamin's good. Don't get mad at Benjamin. He didn't do this.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, I didn't know that's what that song was about. I don't remember. But now I'm going to put it on my playlist. I'm going to jam to it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, jam to it. I saw the Michael Damian version on Broadway, so I didn' quite a Donny Osmond, but I do feel like I got a pretty big icon anyway.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's a pretty good one. So anyway, I marked everything. Well, it was. It was Bronwyn's idea. So Britney's upset and walks away. So now it's ominous music and we start getting the true crime Dateline music. Like, it was a town, a town that everybody loved. The most peaceful town in America. The sweetest couple you ever saw. Everyone knew they were meant to be together the minute they saw them at the dance in high school. And then, like 30 minutes later, he was beating her the whole time and then murdered her. It's like, okay, you're misleading. You are misleading me. Dateline person.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was so surprised. The screen faded to black. And then all of a sudden, I saw green and pink and I heard Meredith Marks singing no Good deed goes unpunished. Winking for good. In theaters in 10 days. Toddler for good. Happening right now.

[Ronnie Caram]

It is kind of funny how they tied this all in because Britney's whole thing was like. I only brought that up because I was doing wicked for good.

[Ben Mandelker]

So.

[Ronnie Caram]

And that unicorn defied gravity. I mean, just a lot's going on.

[Ben Mandelker]

So much, so much. No one mourns the stuffed animal in the ocean.

[Ronnie Caram]

And also, she couldn't be. You know, Britney is having trouble with being popular, so you want to be popular. It's actually kind of all fitting into the musical.

[Ben Mandelker]

She is essentially Elphabet. Oh, wow.

[Ronnie Caram]

Fingers turning green, you guys. Literally, this episode is actually really on track. Yes. It's wicked. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we get a classic, classic Housewives trope, which is, cameras are down and everyone has to say what happened. I thought this one was riveting, personally. Sometimes these aren't so good. Sometimes it's like. So we got into the production vans and she was drunk and she passed out. And we got back to the hotel and we had to put her in a room. And that was it. You're like, oh, really? That's. That's all. But this one was like, okay. Before we even got on the plane, Meredith was completely out of her mind at the airport. I'm just imagining Meredith going into a Hudson News and knocking over a display of magazines. I'll tell you, you want to say print media is dead. Now it's dead. And she stomped on at Entertainment Weekly.

[Ronnie Caram]

Why do I still have to care about Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pat? That's me in a Hudson News. I'm like, why are you still on the covers?

[Ben Mandelker]

Why is there nothing to eat here beyond a brioche dore or an obom pan? Come on, Nevis. We're not even in Nevis.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, we were all uncomfortable. She was yelling and screaming and crying because Britney talked about her marriage and she was making a scene at the airport. And I don't even know that she was aware of that. Okay, well, sounds like Meredith so far. Mm.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Brittany says, well, I was the last one on the plane in our group and where's my seat? Literally right in front of Lisa and Meredith. So then we heard for departure.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then like a wind chime in the back. The sound effects were hilarious. It's like a wind chime.

[Ben Mandelker]

And like, they needed to play the video of Yolanda. They need to have the video of Yolanda coming out as a flight attendant singing that song. Remember when she did that video?

[Ronnie Caram]

The classic song does Jiggy is Dead.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like Dream Team. So then we see the screen goes black. And then we see. We're seeing text messages. And Meredith texts Heather, I am livid. And Heather goes, what happened now? Sisterhood. So I slipped off into sleep and I was. Cuz that's what sisterhoods do. We go to sleep when there's clearly a problem going on in the sisterhood. And I was awoken by Meredith raging and making a scene. And she was just unhinged. I'm like, in retrospect, why did, like, really, why did you at this point not intervene? If you are so much like the steward steward of this sister sisterhood, why did you not mollify this?

[Ronnie Caram]

My first question when she said this line was, where are the stewardesses? You can't just have a fit. They'll tase you. They'll throw you off the plane. I mean, I have TikTok too. I see. These are my favorite scenes on TikTok. Well, I love fights in like waffle houses or things like that. Like public, public restaurant fights where everybody just brawls. I love those. And I also love Karen's on the plane who get kicked off of the plane. So I was like, wait, she was raging? Because also, you have to remember this is Heather speaking and Heather is always trying to make everything bigger than it is and blah, blah, blah. And I don't believe it unless I see proof. So I slipped off into sleep. Okay, so you were asleep. That's the first thing in evidence. But I was awoken by Meredith raging. Okay, so Mary says Meredith started reliving what Brittany said, started getting upset, started going off, and she dwelled on it and dwelled on it and she could not come back from it. I believe that 100%. So then we see texts from Whitney that say Meredith is behind her, taunting her. She's fucking unhinged. I believe this too. She was calling Brittany names. She was talking loud about Brittany so that the entire first class could hear.

[Ben Mandelker]

I believe that I do have a hearing problem. Are you going to make fun of my ears?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes. Well, that is true, though. So she's talking loud. She does have a hearing aid, et cetera. So you could say that. But here's my thing. Think she's already been doing this the entire episode. So we already know Meredith is doing this. So I'm like, so basically it's a continuation of what she's been doing.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's hard because this is a cast of unreliable narrators across the board. So Britney is. She says, I mean, someone grabbed my seat and shook it. Like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And wine splash and hair pulled. And I'm just like, I'm taking information because Britney is one to embellishment. Like, I would not be surprised. And this, I'm just saying from a perspective. Like, I'm not saying this is necessarily my perspective. I would not be surprised if Meredith gets up and holds on the chair and some of her hand, like, catches Britney's hair. She's like, you pulled my hair. I also would not be surprised if Meredith does shake the chair and grabs some of the hair. Like, I. I don't really know what to believe, honestly, and. And I'm just, like, listening to all these stories, and I'm like, this is crazy.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's crazy. I can believe that Meredith stood up to go to the bathroom. And, you know, when you grab onto the chair in front of you, which you don't really have to do in first class.

[Ben Mandelker]

You literally never have to do it. Really?

[Ronnie Caram]

Anywhere.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna say anywhere. You don't have to do it if.

[Ronnie Caram]

And this is not just to make excuses for Meredith or whatever. I don't need to make excuses for Meredith. I think she's acted like an asshole this whole episode, as I've said over and over. But the way the other ladies are telling it is so over the top. Stop that. I believe if Meredith was literally screaming and yelling and pulling someone's hair, she would have been kicked off the plane or at least told to stop it. Someone would have done something. I don't believe. I think if she got up behind her and grabbed her seat, she probably did do that a little bit. You know, she probably was like, oh.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, let me give this a little jostle. For sure. I'm with you on this in the sense that, like, it's shocking to me that there was no intervention, but I don't know. Is it different with business classes? It different. Different because they're celebrities, and maybe the flight attendants are like. But we do hear stories of celebrities getting into trouble on airplanes. I think Alec Baldwin Shocker got into a trouble on an airplane at one point. Like, this does happen, so it is surprising. But at the same time, I. I also, as. As unreliable as these women are as narrators, there's too many. Too many stories that add up, and the women seem genuinely rattled by it in a way that makes me sick. But, like, there must be a truth that's in between here somewhere. Like, something. Something not cool.

[Ronnie Caram]

Definitely something not cool. I think Meredith has been. I think Meredith went on that plane and acted exactly like she was acting on the boat, which is turning her back to her, talking about her like she's not there, but being me, you know, saying like, this woman's an idiot, and this woman's a this and this woman's and that. Oh, she's got proof now. I think she was doing it. We just saw her do it on the boat. So to me, it's the same behavior she had on the boat. Boat that she has on the plane. But now they're acting like, oh, my God, how could she act like that? What are you talking about? And Heather just chased someone down on the boat, screaming and yelling, trashed off of her face, screaming at them. You did this. You did this. Just admit it. And to a sobbing person who's like, I didn't do it. What do you. Stop trying to make me admit something I didn't do. And Heather's chasing her off all over the boat while she's screaming, calling her a bitch and all this stuff. But now Heather's like, someone acted like that. I'm like, have you seen yourself on tv? You acted like that for two days straight. What are you talking about? So that's what gets me mad. It's like the hypocrisy of it. But yeah, I do think Meredith was probably a huge asshole to her. But my questions are, why, if she was being so bad, A, why didn't anybody say anything to her on the plane? B, why didn't anybody? Because Heather said on Watch what happens that it was all production in first class. How did nobody record this? Because the first thing your ass is going to do is start recording someone acting crazy. And especially Brittany, because we already know that she's a recorder and she's always saying, oh, haha, you know me, the. The filmmaker or whatever. So she would have recorded it. Or someone in production probably did recorded it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would think they probably did record it. And they were like, you know what? Well, they just said, you know what? It's probably better if we just like, make the. Make the listeners try to imagine what it was.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Rather than show it, because it probably wasn't quite as exciting on camera, but it definitely is not innocent either. And like, you know what? Let's leave it to the imagination.

[Ronnie Caram]

And.

[Ben Mandelker]

And now we're all here in a tizzy of, like, what really happened.

[Ronnie Caram]

You're right. They're smart like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

And.

[Ronnie Caram]

And maybe they'll pull it out at reunion and be like, oh, unseen.

[Ben Mandelker]

It'd be like, it's. It'll be a four part reunion, but honestly, one part is just gonna be dedicated to the. The Ron Winnon Whitney conversation coming up. Who else are you guys, like, extra dick.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

One extra episode of Reunion. So Whitney is like, they wanted my phone. They wanted to know if I had TikTok on my phone. They wanted to know. They wanted to see Britney's phone. They wanted everyone's phones to see the TikTok. She's acting like it was an authoritarian government board of the plane and was, like, gathering people's phones for inspection. And Lisa's like, Britney was like, right in front of me. And I grabbed the armrest and I said, britney, just give her the fucking TikTok. That's it. And then I sat back. Why does that feel like it's a. It's a. You're. You're sort of breezing over some of the finer details of that confrontation.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Cause, you know, Lisa was like, oh, yeah, you have the TikTok, Then show it, stupid. Show it, you fucking liar. Yeah, do it. You got it. Show it. Shaking the seats. I mean, look, I can imagine that those two were being monsters. Is.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that Lisa is actually pretty shitty in this situation, because my first thought in this was Brittany was the only person to really stand up aggressively for Lisa at the beginning of the season when they were all talking about her cases. And the fact that Lisa was not able to diffuse this and the fact that she wasn't able to say to Meredith, you know what? Let's deal this with this when we land. Like, it's okay. I love you both. Like, let's just. Let's just table this and, like, have, like, she wasn't able to do that. And she claims that she was trying to. And maybe now she can have some better perspective of what it's like for people to deal with her when she starts losing her mind. But of course she won't. But I think it was. I think. I think that. I think it sounds like Lisa failed Brittany here. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

But at the same time, you know, when you're best friends with somebody, it's like, now you're in the position, like, are you going to stand up for me? This woman just said that my husband was cheating in an Uber. So who. She brought that on camera. So who are you going to stand up for?

[Ben Mandelker]

For?

[Ronnie Caram]

So, I don't know. I mean, well, you just say, I.

[Ben Mandelker]

Am standing up for you, but, like, let's not have this fight on an airplane, okay? This is not the time or the place. Let's just relax.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, I think Meredith was also extremely fucked up, because Meredith has said before that she takes drugs to go on international flights. Right. Whenever they say, do you ever take drugs? She says, only when I'm on international flights. So you know that she is on something. She's drinking. Because we know is also an evidence that wine was spilled on Britain when the chair was shaking. So we know she's drinking and probably on some kind of benzo or whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought that might have been Britney's wine. Oh, she doesn't drink. Well, she sort of drinks.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, she drinks. But yeah, she orders wine in the next scene. But yeah, I think that Meredith was probably really fucked up. And that's the air that Mary is giving her. Like, girl, like, I don't think you remember. And she's saying, like, I think you're so fucked up at this point that you're not remembering what's happening. And that's the problem. Problem. And so I think that's kind of what they're calling out with Meredith without going all. They don't want her to go Dorinda on her on their asses. So they're not saying you're an alcoholic or you've got a drug problem or anything. But I think that that's what they're saying, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

100 is what they're saying. And we see some text messages from the flight and Whitney is texting Heather and she's saying, like, they've been taunting Britney the entire flight. And Heather's like, they are being very mad. And when he goes, I don't want to fly with these. But again, they don't do anything about it. So Meredith tells us, says, well, what happened is very simple. I vented to Lisa about Britney and I never engaged with Britney. Let me be very clear. I never spoke to Britney. I never touched Britney. There was nothing. She goes, I just started bawling, actually. I just couldn't take it anymore. I've never been treated like that in my life. Well, except for Jared, but he's allowed. Sarah's like, as we were landing and Lisa woke up, I talked to her for. About it for, I don't know, probably 10 more minutes. 10 minutes, maybe 15, maybe four hours. It's hard to say. Pretty much 10 minutes. And just like when we landed, I turned around and Brittany just melted into a puddle of tears. And then I looked at my finger, which had just melted into a puddle of green goo.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, I wasn't screaming. Oh, but it was horrible. I felt so humiliated. Well, it wasn't physical. And then we hear voiceover echoes, a wind chime, a horn honk, a siren in the background. And Whitney's like, meredith is completely unhinged. And Mary says, yeah, it was constant. And Heather's saying it was an awful scene, annihilating way too far. So, yeah, I think that Meredith and Lisa were probably being jerks. I don't know if it was to the point of screaming and yelling and pulling someone's hair and stuff and I just don't know because it's Whitney and Heather for the most part and Mary was sleeping most of the time with headphones and so was he. So.

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Yeah, well, Meredith goes. Well, obviously it wasn't that deep or I would have been arrested by an air Marshall.

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