Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens — #3078 Crappy Hour 11/17/25: BravoCon Breakdown With Two Judgey Girls

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Guests: Courtney & Mary (Two Judgey Girls)
Date: November 18, 2025

Overview

This special “Crappy Hour” episode is a lively, detailed debrief of BravoCon 2025. Hosts Ben and Ronnie, joined by Courtney and Mary from Two Judgey Girls, share behind-the-scenes moments, Bravo celebrity encounters, juicy gossip, and their personal highlights of the Bravo-centric festivities in Las Vegas. The conversation is candid and full of the signature humor and irreverence fans love, pulling back the curtain on the Bravo universe, its stars, and the fandom that fuels it.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. BravoCon Vibes: Overwhelmed but Exhilarated

[03:40]

• Both hosts and guests describe the event as a sensory overload and a “fever dream” but ultimately an “amazing, grateful exhausted” (Courtney, 09:33).
• “We are wrecked. We are bested. I'm spent. I need rehab. I need therapy.” – Ronnie [03:40]
• The feeling of kinship between content creators and their audience is strong; meeting fans and fellow podcasters is a highlight.

2. Podcast Community & Creator Solidarity

[06:00]

• Ben and Ronnie share joy at mingling with fellow Bravo content creators, including Danny Pellegrino, Ryan Bailey, Michelle Collins, Brian Moylan, and the Two Judgey Girls.
• Meeting and being recognized by Bravo celebs was both surreal and affirming, even when confronted: “The phrase I heard the most this weekend was, ‘Why do you hate me?’” – Ronnie [04:31]

3. Bravo Stars: Interactions and Gossip, Up Close and Personal

A. Star Interactions

• Most Bravo stars were warm and good-humored, even those who’ve been roasted on the show. “I was, like, a little slightly apprehensive that some Bravo stars would come up to me and be, like, angry at us. But ... I think they're more scared of us.” – Ben [05:07]
• Emily Simpson and Heather Gay interactions: “It's a comedy show. If you were perfect, we'd still rag on your ass.” – Ronnie [05:47]

B. Notable Encounters

• Whitney Rose (SLC): Repeated stories of her being “shit faced the entire weekend” – Ronnie [10:14]
  • “Heather was just kind of, like, propping up Whitney. Whitney was ... steady enough, unsteady enough, that ... Heather just sort of had an arm around her.” – Ben [11:50]
• Shep (Southern Charm): “I ran into Shep twice ... I got deeply offended that he didn't know who I was, and I was unsure if he knew who I was" – Mary [15:25]
• Luann de Lesseps: Mary’s goal was to have a cigarette with Lu, but only got a pretend interview moment [15:03].
• Heather Gay Spat: Ronnie and Heather make peace over a minor spat: "I'll still gamble with you, but you need to pick a less stupid game..." – Ronnie [13:20]

C. Bravo Star Hierarchy and Handler Culture
[24:52]

• Newbies like the Next Gen cast were left to fend for themselves, while established stars had full entourages: "Do you have a handler? ... Some of the blow deck people ... have people literally carrying their shoes and ... doing everything for them." – Ben [25:13]

4. Insider Gossip and Scandal

• Rachel Zoe: Noted as distant or “not nice” to fellow Bravolebs – Ben [22:26], theorized it could be her A-list background clashing with Bravo culture.
• Portia Williams: Escorted off a plane by air marshals (news dropped mid-episode) [32:00].
• Shep’s Bar Meltdown: Caught on video, “going off” about Paige and Craig, claiming their relationship was fake for followers and money: "How many followers did Paige get off of Craig?... They were just faking it this whole time to make millions of dollars." – Ronnie [35:34]
• Sandoval & Girlfriend: "He was just having a good time... talking about ego risers, AI detectors, and twirling his girlfriend whose ass came out of her dress.” – Ronnie [37:45]

5. Panel Hosting: Podcaster Standout Moment

[28:25]

• Ben and Ronnie hosted a panel on the Gold Stage for the Next Gen NYC cast; crowd enthusiasm for the podcasters was notably high, per Courtney.
• “Walking out onto that stage ... you just ... look out, it's massive. It's like a full-on convention room ... It was wild.” – Ben [29:00]
• Q&A chaos, with the Next Gen cast trickling out answers forever about favorite NYC restaurants [31:14].

6. Social Dynamics & Shady Behavior Among Bravolebs

• Cy vs. Madison (Southern Charm): Fallout after Madison called Cy the meanest person she’d met. Cy responded: “Not all brown people look alike. I never even met her.” – Cy [45:54]
  • Ends with a DM spat: “Still couldn’t pick you out of a lineup. You’re extremely unmemorable.” – Cy [47:04]
• Jesse Solomon (Summer House): Threw shade at Vicki Gunvalson, expressing ignorance of her legacy [48:50].
• Wes (Summer House): Criticized on social for being "too cool for school," retorted online about negative fan impressions [49:21].

7. Bravo Audience & Fandom Observations

• VIP experience was less accessible this year, due to crowding and last year’s chaos: “They were keeping them more sequestered … people crawling over those couches … to get to Patricia [Altschul].” – Ronnie [52:07]
• Las Vegas logistical headaches, bracelet drama, and the rain presented challenges for attendees [53:27].

8. Reflections on Bravo’s Casting Choices & Franchise Drama

• Discussed the controversy over bringing Vicki Gunvalson back amid ongoing allegations and scandals: “Why would you bring back such a bigoted monster? … I can't believe they're bringing her back…” – Ronnie [55:53]
• Noted OC’s ongoing issues and cast riffs, especially after insensitive comments from key players.

9. Personal and Heartwarming Moments

• Fan Interaction: Hugging, partying, and the “giant meetup” with over 350 fans [07:00].
• Margaret Josephs' Party: Called the best of BravoCon, featuring mountains of caviar, photo booths, and Booze [68:38].
• Host's Own Watch What Crappens Party: Over 300 guests attended, with ice cream from Jenny’s and a “lovely vibe” [69:06].

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “[BravoCon] was a sensory overload and a fever dream … We are wrecked. We are bested.” – Ronnie [03:40]
• “I think a hoarse voice is an indication of a strong weekend for sure.” – Courtney [07:44]
• “I know you hate me, but I think you're really funny. And it was almost like they were scared of us.” – Ben [05:07]
• “Emily Simpson and Heather Gay interactions: ‘It's a comedy show. If you were perfect, we'd still rag on your ass.’” – Ronnie [05:47]
• “Whitney Rose was just shit faced the entire weekend. I didn’t hear from anyone who said that woman was sober even for five minutes.” – Ronnie [10:14]
• “How many followers did Paige get off of Craig? … They were just faking it this whole time to make millions of dollars.” – Ronnie [35:34]
• “[Shep] was going off on both of them, really … everyone was laughing at him. My messy queen, whoever [recorded] it was.” – Ronnie [35:34]
• “Not all brown people look alike. I never even met her before.” – Cy to Madison via Instagram [45:54]
• “The crowd was electric for you guys ... everyone was just so proud of you.” – Courtney, praising Ben & Ronnie’s panel [29:23]
• "Bravo is the last thing standing ... between us and a civilized nation ... the Bravo standards have to apply to every show. No exceptions." – Ben [65:23]
• “Why would you bring back such a bigoted monster? I can’t believe they’re bringing her back for the show's in enough trouble. You guys need to do some fixing.” – Ronnie [55:53]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• BravoCon rundown & host exhaustion: [03:40] – [07:00]
• Meeting Bravo celebs/fan interactions: [04:31], [05:47], [07:00]
• Whitney Rose drunkenness & gossip: [10:14] – [12:52]
• Shep interaction: [15:03] – [16:45]
• Bravo fandom observation: [17:11] – [18:18]
• Hierarchies backstage: [24:52] – [25:33]
• Next Gen NYC panel, hosting reflections: [28:25] – [31:59]
• Portia plane incident: [32:00] – [33:09]
• Shep's drunken rant about Paige/Craig: [34:08] – [36:50]
• Vicki Gunvalson/OC cast drama: [55:18] – [56:50]
• Final thoughts, parties, and wrap-up: [68:38] – [70:22]

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode is an exuberant, roast-filled love letter to all things Bravo, with affectionate mockery, dishy gossip, and a candid look at the paradox of recapping reality TV: critiquing and lampooning its stars, while also recognizing their humanity and being part of the same scene. Ben, Ronnie, and their guests are openly critical yet empathetic, blending snark and warmth in reporting the chaotic magic of Bravo fandom.

For More:

• Two Judgey Girls podcast
• Watch What Crappens Patreon

Listeners seeking the unfiltered BravoCon story, with equal parts shade and celebration, will not want to miss this one.