#3085 RHOP S10E08 Part One: And Still I Lie(s)

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Episode #3085 — RHOP S10E08 Part One: "And Still I Lie(s)"
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: November 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers signature Watch What Crappens energy as Ben and Ronnie dive into the latest Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP) episode, dissecting the group’s drama-filled Pride Parade, a weed business controversy, and the return of Monique. The hosts bring their trademark wit and relentless eye for absurdity to every plot twist, focusing on the ever-escalating “Cookie” saga, Stacey’s questionable moves, and Angel’s neverending catfish photo ordeal.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving and Podcast Schedule (03:40–05:15)

• Ronnie and Ben discuss their Thanksgiving plans and upcoming podcast schedule.
  • “I’m not doing a recap on Thanksgiving. Okay? That is not how people want to celebrate turkey.” — Ronnie (04:55)
• Ben shares his “low lift Thanksgiving” newsletter plans.
• They reflect on Ben’s recent trip to a board game convention in Dallas as a humorous prelude to diving back into Bravo insanity.

2. RHOP Pride Parade and Introducing “Cookie” (06:18–12:11)

• The episode opens with recaps from the show’s Pride Parade, and the hosts praise Cookie’s entertaining presence.
  • “Cookie came in and really Cookied it up. I mean, wow.” — Ronnie (06:41)
  • “Is she a reliable narrator or not? Should we believe Cookie?” — Ben (06:46)
• Cookie is described as a breakout character, and speculation abounds about her influence.
• The cast tries to start drama between Monique and Stacy by revealing Stacy dated Monique’s ex-husband, but Monique is unbothered.
  • “He’s my ex for a reason. I didn’t want him anymore. So I don’t care what he does with his life as long as she’s good with the children.” — Monique, paraphrased by Ronnie (12:01)

3. The “Shyo” Cannabis Business Debacle (13:29–16:50)

• Stacy introduces her Nigerian-themed cannabis brand “Shyo,” sparking skepticism.
• Wendy and the group question if Stacy is actually of Nigerian heritage and if she’s pronouncing “Shyo” correctly.
• The hosts lampoon Stacy’s explanation:
  • “I love my nice, my Nigerian sisters correcting me. Thank you so much.” — Ronnie as Stacy (15:58)
• Angel accuses Stacy of a money grab and asks about the social justice aspect of her business, leading the hosts to roast the constant need for a “social justice component.”
  • “Can I just sell weed? The social justice component is I make you feel better after a shitty day in this shitty world.” — Ronnie (17:32)

4. Board Game Tangents & Divorce Humor (18:13–20:07)

• Ben and Ronnie riff on board game concepts inspired by Angel’s family drama: a game where parents try to keep their divorce a secret from the kids.
  • “The board game is that there is a child who doesn’t realize her parents are divorcing, and you have to keep up appearances…” — Ben (18:49)

5. Angel & Stacy: Social Justice Showdown (21:24–24:58)

• Angel demands Stacy address her business’s social justice mission—again.
  • “Don’t be rude. You’re saying that she has a money grab business…” — Ronnie as Stacy (21:24)
• Angel promises to revisit the topic every episode until the season ends.
  • “We’ll revisit it. And when we do, you’ll also finally get to know me.” — Ben mocking Angel (21:47)

6. The GNA Brand (25:14–26:59)

• Wendy mocks the ever-evolving nature of the "GNA" brand (fashion? taxes?).
  • “Is it a tax fund? Is it a tax one? And how do I get on that?” — Ronnie (25:56)
• The hosts question whether the business actually exists.

7. Monique’s Return & Divorce Talk (27:04–37:02)

• Monique returns after five years, generating excitement and reflection from the group.
• Monique discusses her divorce candidly, noting how her marriage was mostly an image and sharing the moment she “couldn’t do it anymore.”
  • “I wasn’t being loved properly… whoever you marry, that person could actually get worse.” — Ronnie as Monique (29:29, 30:16)
  • “I said, ‘You will never enter me again.’” — Monique (36:24)
• Ben and Ronnie hilariously speculate about Monique and Chris’s physical relationship.

8. Angel and Bobby’s House-Hunting (37:02–43:04)

• Angel and her husband Bobby view a new house; the hosts joke about Bobby being tall, attractive, and the rare good house on RHOP.
• Angel tries to reopen her grievances about being called a catfish, to the hosts' exasperation.
  • “He’s like, ‘Ma’am, I would rather bonk my head on 12 more door jams than listen to this picture again.’” — Ben (44:33)

9. The "Catfish" Photo: Enough Already! (43:04–44:41)

• Angel continues lamenting the public calling out of her heavily filtered photo.
  • “You cannot keep digging in about… the photo that you did to yourself.” — Ben (43:49)

10. Fashion Show Fails: The GNA Fashion Event (44:41–45:59)

• The hosts eviscerate the disastrous GNA fashion show and the group’s questionable clothes.
  • “It looked like she [Giselle] got toilet papered… She looked like she was playing a mummy.” — Ronnie (45:23)

11. 10 Million Downloads—"Reasonably Shady" Milestone (46:39–47:21)

• Giselle celebrates her podcast’s accomplishments.
  • “We hit the 10 million download milestone on Reasonably Shady.” — Ben (46:48)

12. Cookie Telephone: Who Called Chris First? (47:21–54:29)

• Kierna relays a convoluted story: after Pride, someone tipped off Chris Samuels that Monique was talking about him, and Cookie is in the middle. Did Stacy call Chris to spill the tea?
  • “You call him immediately as you’re leaving the place to be like, yeah, your ex-wife showed up and talked about you. That’s not cool.” — Ronnie (48:23)
  • “She’s caught in a bald-faced lie in this episode…” — Ben (48:58)

13. Sisterhood & Loyalty: Is Stacy in the Wrong? (52:03–54:29)

• The hosts debate whether Stacy breached “girl code” by calling Chris, ultimately differing in their judgment but agreeing it’s a bad look.
  • “I don’t think she should have said it. I’m just saying that their level of outrage… is a little much.” — Ben (52:10)
  • “It all adds up… the evidence packet keeps adding up against Stacy.” — Ronnie (54:29)
• Cookie’s own role as “the judge and the arbiter of everybody’s sisterhood levels” is questioned since she, too, appears to stir the pot.

14. Anticipating Cookie at the GNA Party (55:18–55:33)

• Everyone is ready for a confrontation at the upcoming party, with Cookie likely to “sing like a canary.”
  • “Cookie wants to sing like a canary, baby.” — Ashley, quoted by Ben (55:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Cookie came in and really Cookied it up. I mean, wow.” — Ronnie (06:41)
• “She’s caught in a bald-faced lie in this episode…” — Ben (48:58)
• “I get emotional when I talk about my kids. I mean, Milani, she’s so artsy. Chase, he’s a bank now. I mean, God, he’s done so much.” — Ronnie as Monique (32:29)
• “Arabella and the Divorce. It’s time for a commercial. It’s time for a crapping commercial.” — Ben (20:19)
• “Can I just sell weed?... The social justice component is I make you feel better after a shitty day in this shitty world. How about that?” — Ronnie (17:32)
• “It looked like she [Giselle] got toilet papered… She looked like she was playing a mummy.” — Ronnie (45:23)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Thanksgiving & Intro Chat: 03:40–06:17
• Cookie’s Arrival & Influence: 06:41–07:53; 47:21–55:33
• “Shyo” Business Drama: 13:29–16:50
• Board Game Tangent: 18:13–20:07
• Angel & Stacy’s Social Justice Argument: 21:24–24:58
• Monique’s Divorce Exposé: 27:04–37:02
• Angel/Bobby House-Hunt: 37:02–43:04
• Catfish Photo Revisited: 43:04–44:41
• GNA Fashion Show Mockery: 44:41–45:59
• Reasonably Shady Milestone: 46:39–47:21
• Cookie/Chris Telephone & Stacey Drama: 47:21–54:29
• Sisterhood Debate: 52:03–54:29
• Cookie Prepares for Party Showdown: 55:18–55:33

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Recap Tone

Ben and Ronnie are irreverent, sharp, and unafraid to poke fun at both the cast and one another. Their approach is sarcastic but affectionate, deepening their critiques with pop culture references, improv-style bits, and outlandish analogies. Every moment, no matter how trivial, is treated with the utmost comedic scrutiny.

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Summary

This installment is packed with classic Watch What Crappens banter, savage commentary on the women (and men) of RHOP, and layered discussions about who owes loyalty to whom. The Pride Parade provides literal and figurative color, Cookie threatens to steal the season, Angel can’t stop talking about her catfish photo, and Monique’s return prompts reflection and roast alike. The episode ends with the stage set for Cookie's promised confrontation at the GNA party—and, as every Crappens listener knows, more mess is always on the horizon.

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End of Part One Recap. For the next installment, search for “Part Two.”

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Hello and welcome to what's what's Grappling. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello Ben.

[B]

Hi Ronnie. How are you?

[A]

I'm so good. Guys, it is Thanksgiving week here in the United States. So we're just getting ready for, I mean just a weekend. It's really not that long of a weekend, but a semi long weekend. So we're excited about that. This Real Housewives of Potomac Day. It's also a Amazon live day. 4pm will be on Amazon live. Okay, 4pm Pacific time. Find our link in bio over at our Instagram. It's going to be so fun. We're going to talk about holiday cookies, holiday cooking and house lighting. Home lighting in my house.

[B]

I'm going to give some recommendations on some of the tools that I use for Thanksgiving cooking. So listen in, what do you think about that?

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And then this week our schedule is pretty similar to normal. We have our final Dwell hello this week on Wondery. That will be the final maybe of the season. Maybe ever. We don't know. But we're going to be doing that hiatus later this week. We've also got a bonus episode this week. Maybe a trailer trash of something coming up. Haven't decided. And we will be skipping Southern Charm this week. That's the only recap we're skipping because I'm not doing a recap on Thanksgiving. Okay? That is not how people want to celebrate turkey. Okay? Those turkeys have already basted themselves. But we Will talk about it the following week. Otherwise, our schedule is the same. So how was your weekend, Ben?

[B]

Weekend was great. I went to Dallas, Texas, as many of you know, because I recorded the Orange county reunion from Dallas where I went to a board game convention. And I think, as I mentioned on Friday, a very different scene from BravoCon in virtually any way you could ever imagine. But I had fun. It was fun stepping into Nerdom. And now I am back and I am ready to step into, into, into, into Bravo and also Thanksgiving madness. I'm going to. When we're done recording today, I'm going to hop on my laptop and I'm going. I'm trying to get this out as quickly as possible. I'm trying to get out a. Another NBD fancy newsletter that's going to be. I'm. I'm calling it, quote unquote, low lift Thanksgiving. Like, things you can make that are pretty simple but will look pretty cool for Thanksgiving. I don't know if I'll be able to succeed on that front. You know, it's like how, how low lift can, like, stuffing be? But I'm gonna try. So keep an eye out for that. But that being said, wonderful.

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Low left.

[B]

It's a Lola Thanksgiving. But I did love emerging from Nerdom and coming back into Bravo via the great ambassador that is Real Housewives of Potomac. Because this episode cracked me up. Oh, my God. Especially the quarrel at the end. Cookie. Cookie, Cookie, Cookie.

[A]

Cookie came in and really Cookied it up. I mean, wow.

[B]

Geez. I love the. Also, like, the controversy around Cookie. Like, is she a reliable narrator or not? Like, should we believe Cookie?

[A]

We find out that Cookie has been the wizard of Oz, you know, like the hand moving a lot of this show. At least that's kind of what has been insinuated. And then we see Cookie and they're. It's like they're holding Cookie for good.

[B]

Wicked Cookie for good.

[A]

They're holding Cookie back. Cookies, you know, waving those nails at people like, oh, you want a piece of me? And yeah, they're holding Cookie back. And damn Cookie. Who knew?

[B]

I know. And it's so funny because in the beginning, at the very beginning of the episode, as we're about to get to, you know, when. When Kierna tries to start some beef between mo' Nique and Stacy, and Monique is like, well, I don't care. Chris can date whoever he wants. I was like, oh, wow. Wow. Bravo. Really. They really lost out on this storyline. Like, they, they tried to make it a thing and Then it just fell flat on. Flat. Flat on its face. Little did we realize it would have a. Like, it would have a rebirth through Cookie. So I'm incredibly excited to see where this goes.

[A]

My gosh. I don't know if there's any colored. Color Purple fans out there, but Sophia is what I'm getting from Cookie. Like, if they. If they did a production of that and they cast Cookie as the Oprah Winfrey role, I would die. It would be sold out. You know, Just fucking loved Cookie. I want to see Cookie in everything now. I want Cookie on every show. I need Cookie's messy ass on every show. And of course, she's like, besties with Karen. You know, Karen is like, bestie with the biggest troublemaker on the cast. When they said the first time I met Cookie, okay, let's just go through the episode because there's so much. Okay. So we are still at Ashley's pride parade. You know, it's so nice to have a show this week after Orange county that actually starts a pride parade. You know, I think we all, as a country deserved this, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We. We sunset last week on Gretchen's homophobia. And then the sun rises on Ashley. Ashley's ash top Persona, Ashto. Ashtop, which I. Yeah, you know, Ashtop. Good for her. Good for her. So K's trying to be messy. She's trying to get. She's trying to. K is doing whatever she can this season. She's working on overdrive, and she's trying to target Stacy. Little does she realize that Stacy has become the people's hero, despite her. Her slippery nature with the truth. And so Kieran's like, so Monique, like, Chris Samuel's your ex husband, Right? And Monique's like, yeah. She's like, okay, because, like, Stacy, you were dating. She was dating Chris. Just so you know. And again, as we've mentioned about 45 times, it doesn't matter. Stacy was not friends with Monique. So, like, there's nothing. There's nothing inherently messy about this situation.

[A]

Yeah. And Stacy's like, wow, K, wow. And Wendy's like, yeah, wow. And Stacy goes, oh, my God, she just met her. And so Stacy's like, oh, my God, stop. I know socially. Calm down, ladies. Calm down. Talk about inappropriateness, talk about length. Talk about girth.

[B]

Talk about drama. Chris Samuels is like, talk about a turkey. Give one to me. 5. Talk about a fee. Talk about a fire. Talk about a foe. Talk about a thumb.

[A]

Talk about a golden goose that's missing. Monique's like, yeah, We've been divorced two years, so I would expect that he would date. Kieran is like, oh, so you don't mind? Okay, well, I guess I didn't know then. And Wendy's like, yeah, nice try. I was messy. And Karen is like, I don't care what Stacy says. She. She likes people to think she's not that girl. But I know she's that girl. Isn't it good if you're that girl? Isn't that a good thing? Like when people say, oh, oh, she's that girl. Isn't that a compliment?

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That depends. Because if you're like that girl who looks out at the highway every day from her. Her condo, that might not be good for some people. For some people, maybe it is cool. I don't know.

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So, yeah, but like, when people say.

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It would be that girl.

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Yeah, like if people say, like, let's just say somebody had once said, not saying they did, but let's say somebody said, oh, Ronnie, you're that bitch. That I always thought that was a compliment, but now I'm starting to rethink my friendship with somebody said, hey, wow, you're that bitch. I thought it was nice, but now Kieran is making me think it's not nice.

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Well, I think that the. That is context specific because you, you know, like, you want to be that, hey, girlfriend, I'm that.

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I'm that.

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I'm like, first coffee. But then. But then I guess if you. You could contextually be like, I'm not that girl. You know, it's like a different. I think it's just whatever the that is. Kyoto's like, Stacy is not that.

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That.

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She's. She's not it. She's that.

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So Monique's like, well, he's my ex for a reason. I didn't want him anymore. So I don't care what he does with his life as long as he's. As long as she's good with the children.

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Which I'm just so happy to be back. She's so happy to be back. She is, like, having the best time. She's smiling. She does seem. Actually, she does seem lighter. And she seems a bit more. I don't know, it's hard to describe, but she. She's just like, oh, whatever. She seems actually like a normal person, not a real housewife. So she's like, not being.

[A]

That's. That is weird. She is more normal person now. Yeah. Isn't she wearing, like, a tank top or something? Like, she's, like, more chill and normal, but you Know what? She was never, I think just her history on the show and the way that she left the show, there was, like, such a dark cloud about that whole thing. A dark cloud over it. But she was always really chill and fun until she was, you know, until she wasn't, like, until she was activated, until you put an umbrella in her hand, you know?

[B]

But the thing is that, like, she was also. She was a little bit presentational because she was always pushing her essential oils and stuff like that. And now she's just kind of like, yeah, I'm just hanging out. So Tia is talking, and she's like, oh, you guys talk about my bottom. My gosh. Ms. Giselle. And Giselle's like, oh, I love it. It wasn't always there. And they're just, like, joking and bantering about that booty and stuff like that and, yeah, touching it and, you know, they're having fun time at the gay bar, etc, and then.

[A]

And so Stacy's turned on by Ashtop. She's like, wow, there's something that's just appealing about you. And now she's like, okay, okay, well, I want to clear something up, Stacy. So listen, I'm really happy for you to do your business, but I was a little caught off guard with your cannabis launch because, you know, the name being Yoruba, that. That. The name being in Yoruba, that felt a little weird to me as someone who's friends with Nigerians. So I'd like to speak up.

[B]

As someone who likes to start shrine fights amongst Nigerians, I was just, like, a little offended about your name being in Yoruba.

[A]

So I'm still offended that you sold kangaroo meat as chop.

[B]

So I'm offended that you're dressed like a rock right now as top.

[A]

Personally, I'm offended that you're pretending to be a drag queen when you're still, like, hot girling it up. She's like, I'm a hot girl, but I also have a mustache. That's not drag. That's not drag kinging. Come on, Ashtop.

[B]

So Stacy says that the name of her. Her company is Shyo. And she was like, what is that? And when he's like, she named it a Nigerian name. A Nigerian name, Ma. And she sounds like, are you Nigerian? And she goes, well, I have Nigerian heritage. I sometimes receive an email from a Nigerian prince, so I think that qualifies.

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I found out that in Nigeria, there's only one person left with my last name. And if I just give them my bank account number, I'm going to inherit $50 million.

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Well, I took a DNA test. DNA. No actual DNA. And I've spoken about this with you all. With all of you.

[A]

I love that she took a fucking DNA test. This is so Kelly from Real Housewives in Orange County.

[B]

I can say whatever. I black.

[A]

They're like, you what? How are you gonna say you're black? She's like, I took a 23, and me, I'm 3% black.

[B]

Well, and it's like. I mean, there's. I mean, there's a. There's a perfectly fine chance that Stacy has, like, a. A significantly higher percentage of black of, like, Nigerian in her than Kelly Dodd has blackness. But that being said, they all are very much giving her the side eye because. And at one. At one point coming up, someone says, you know, there's a difference between ancestry versus, you know, basically immediate family. But Stacy's like, whatever, I'm gonna go with Shiloh.

[A]

It is. Well, it was so funny because Wendy's like, well, as your friend, if you're gonna name a Yoruba name, pronounce it correctly because you're not pronouncing it correctly. And Giselle starts cracking up, and Tia's like, it's Shayula. Shayula. And Stacy goes, oh, thank you for that. I love my nice. My Nigerian sisters correcting me. Thank you so much. We can't.

[B]

Clayton Stacey. Stacey has paid for a boyfriend in Nigeria. The boyfriends pay us. We don't do that nonsense.

[A]

Well, that's another instance of her not being genuine angels. Like, yeah, it is giving money grab a little bit. Is Nigerian weed, like, flying off the shelves? How is it a money grab? That's the part I don't get. Is. Are people like, oh, my God, that's a Nigerian name. I'm getting that. That is the best weed.

[B]

Yeah, it's not like, happy. I guess Happy Eddie before the scandal was doing nicely, but it's not like this was taking over American pop culture. So I. I just. I don't look at Shia or Shior and say, wow, what a Happy Eddie ripoff. Like, it's just not. I don't. I don't know. But also, with Angel, I'm just constantly rolling my eyes because we're entering into week 35 of her complaining about the comments about her face that she altered herself on.

[A]

Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. She won't shut up about that. It's so hilarious. And then everything she says, okay, she's like, it's giving money grab. I don't understand that part. And Then she goes and, stacy, what about the social justice component of your business? Excuse me, Can I just sell some weed? Why do I have to sell weed for children with cancer? Like, can I just sell the weed? The social justice component is I make you feel better after a shitty day in this shitty world. How about that?

[B]

Well, what was funny is that she goes, and what about the social justice component of your business? Is there one? Because she just cuts her off. Because. Anyway, I just want to say, everyone, thank you for coming. I just, like, they just are like, I am not talking about some social justice. I'm just selling weed. I'm just. I'm trying to cash in on my window that I'm here, okay?

[A]

I'm trying to leave a legacy for Arabella.

[B]

Arabella Angel's like, by the way, at the board game convention, there was a game called Arabella, and I internally shouted it out in my head. And so are you just trying to.

[A]

Get your game piece to stand up straight and keep it sash, you know? Keep it sash straight.

[B]

I did think it was weird that the board game went off and started swimming laps in front of me. I was like, arabella, good for you.

[A]

Okay, guys, we can't let Arabella know that her parents are back together. Okay? Keep this secret till the end of the game.

[B]

That. That's kind of a fun game. The board game is that there is a child who doesn't realize her parents are divorcing, and you have to keep up appearances. And if you can make it to the end without a child realizing, you won the game. It's dark, but Loki kind of. Kind of good.

[A]

Yeah. For kids with divorced parents who might be fucking in a pantry somewhere.

[B]

There are so many people who are, like, going through divorces listening right now that are like, this is not funny, what you guys are talking about. Like, why are you. Why are you mocking our very serious.

[A]

Your parents are going through a divorce. Your. Your game piece is the mom. Your game piece is the dad. So you have to convince the child who's a better parent and who gets custody. It's like, it just gets darker and darker.

[B]

There is actually something real. There is actually something really kind of funny. Like, there's something.

[A]

Yeah, it sounds like one of your.

[B]

Things about, like, a board. A board game where, like, you are vying. A lot of board games are, like, very political. It's like, I'm the usa, I'm Russia, and we're doing world domination. But what if the board game was really about divorced parents trying to win over their children? With, you know, gifts and vacations and, like, do you have to do the homework? Like, there's something actually kind of like, really hilarious about that. Darkly.

[A]

We'll get to writing Game Boy.

[B]

You guys, guess what? I'm signing off and I'm making a board game right now. It's called Arabella. Love Me.

[A]

Arabella and the Divorce. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crapping commercial. Picture this. You're standing on the beach when you notice something strange.

[B]

The horizon doesn't look right at first.

[A]

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[A]

So Stacy just interrupts angel and she's like, excuse me. Don't be rude. Don't be rude. You're rude. You're saying that she has a money grab business and asking her if there's a social justice component. Angel. And Stacy's like, no, I'm done. And Angel's like, we'll revisit it. Don't you know every episode until the end of the season, we will revisit this.

[B]

We'll revisit it. And when we do, you'll also finally get to know me. I was like, oh, great. Thanks, Angel. Yeah. And I can't wait to finally, finally get to know you.

[A]

Yeah. Angel's board game, Catfish or Real photo.

[B]

Angel's a card game you play for three hours and at the end, we'll finally get to know her. And then you actually don't get to know her at all. When you get to the end, the final round is angel confronting you about the fact that you laughed while people were confronting her about her catfish photo.

[A]

I would like to look through her Uber Uber reviews and, like, her one stars and just be like, he didn't try to get to know me. So we had a whole ride from the mall to my home. He knows not one thing about.

[B]

I'm giving this restaurant two stars. While the food was actually quite good and the service was excellent, I felt like ultimately my waiter didn't really get to know me. But I'm looking forward to coming back, so that way he can really get to know me.

[A]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt you guys. Ma', am, may I take your order? I'm sorry, but you'll get to know me. You'll know when you know me.

[B]

Okay, Ma', am, there's a. Tonight's specials is that we have a beautiful angel hair pasta with a fresh spring pea pesto with walnuts. And does that pasta. Does it have a social justice component?

[A]

Yeah. Then don't bring it over here. You'll get to know me. Don't worry.

[B]

Once you get to know me, you'll see that that's important to me.

[A]

So Angel. Angel's like, well, Stacy is totally dismissive of me. Okay, girl, if you don't care about classy, all care about being classy for us both. So just pointing out being classy isn't really confronting somebody over their business at a pride party either, so.

[B]

Well, I wonder.

[A]

I'm gonna disagree with everything angel says just because I'm. I'm officially annoyed at this point.

[B]

I'm gonna give angel one. One thing here, which is that I would not be surprised if there was some scene where Stacy had told angel, I'm going to. To sell weed. But I also want to have a social justice component to it. And angel is basically saying, like, so where's this whole. Where's this whole social justice thing that you said was going to be there that you were going to profit off of? I would not be surprised if that was a larger context, But I don't remember seeing a scene like that, and they definitely didn't. I don't think they've shown one. So if that is the case, they've definitely made angel look like such a womp. Womp at this party. And she's probably like, I was just trying to call her out. So I'm going to, like, I am going to say that I will keep a tab open on that for the reunion. And if she comes back and says that, then we'll be like, okay, okay, I will give a little bit of vindication to angel on that front. You see what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, she's bored me too much for vindication. Like, just close the open tab. I don't even care about. I'll give it to her. Okay, I'll give it to her. I'll resend all my comments. Okay, Just edit all that.

[B]

Well, we'll. We'll. We'll give it to her. If it comes up, we'll give it to her. I just want. I guess it's not a tab. I'm. I'm putting a flag in there. I'm flagging this moment for the audience.

[A]

To be, like, burning the flag.

[B]

That. That could. That. That could happen. How dare you in front of Arabella.

[A]

So Tia's like, oh, so stressful. Who has the gummy now that I could have? And so now there's a float, okay? Because there's a DNA float, which is, you know, some leggings and some brain issues. I'm still not sure what this business is. So Wendy's like, yeah, and thank God for Wendy, because Wendy's like, yeah, I don't understand how this is the GNA float, okay? Because that started as a fashion brand. And so we see a flashback to GNA clothing. And then Wendy's saying. And then it turned us into us doing a. Well, wix on the Wooftop. So what exactly is GNA at this point? Is it a tax fund? Is it a tax one? And how do I get on that?

[B]

I know, right? So Wendy's. Yeah, she's. It's. She. She brings up very good questions because we really. I think it was last week when we looked it up. There's not even a website for jna. There's no. There's no entity. We don't understand what it is. So anyway, they get on this float, and the float is going. And Ash is like, well, when I first came out, I told my grandma after church then. And, you know, I had a crush on this girl, and she didn't get mad. And then she embraced me with open arms. And then I didn't tell anyone. And she basically tells her not very interesting story about having a crush on a girl when she was little, and then, like, circling back to it when she was 14 and then not talking about it ever on TV until suddenly. Actually, no, never mind. I should say. She did talk about it a few years ago, so I was gonna.

[A]

Well, yeah, she said that her and Michael had threesomes with women and stuff. And she's. She's always liked women and stuff. Yeah, she's always. She's. She's always been proudly bi, at least since she's been on this show. So Ashley is telling Kieran, hey, if you feel inspired to kiss me, just putting it out there.

[B]

And now she's like, yeah. Now my grandma's like, who you dating now? Who you dating?

[A]

And I'm like, grandma.

[B]

So they are dancing. They're having fun. The float is, like, shaking. There's, like, one shot of, like, the tire of the float. And now they go. They go have a. They grab a bite to eat. So they all gather around and there, like, this big, long table. And Giselle's like, well, I want to say, Monica, I didn't expect to see you. And Monique is like, yeah, I really wasn't sure what to expect, you know, because I haven't seen any of you guys in five years. It's so funny because they're acting like it's been 15 or 20 years since they've seen Monique. Like, oh, my God, so much has changed. So. So your child. That your child's in business school now. Congratulations. Oh, and your daughter. Oh, I love seeing, you know, her candidacy for. To be the, you know, Wyoming State Comptroller. But, like, the kids are just five.

[A]

Years older, but, like, Wyoming estate comptroller. You know, to see one of your children replace Sherry Berry as the elevator leader, an estate is really something else. It's been amazing.

[B]

I say this really because a friend of mine that I went to college with, her name is Brooke. And one of our. One of our. One of our listeners. One of our dear listeners, rt, who lives in Maryland, where the show takes place, she informed me that my friend Brooke is now the Maryland state controller. And I'm like, how does that happen? That's weird. It's weird to think of, like, someone like my age that I did last time. I remember last time I thought of Brooke, it was like, we're having, like, lunch in the student center or something like that. And now she's a state controller. So whenever we show, I think about Brooke because it's a Maryland show, and I think about Brooke being a state controller.

[A]

Comptroller, Comptroller.

[B]

Comp troller, Comptroller. I love that job.

[A]

Very stressful. It's just like getting people free tickets to things.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, hey, do you have a ticket to the state fair, Brooke? She's like, oh, yeah, I got it. I'm the comp troller Also, by the way, thank you, everyone, for voting for Brooke. We love. I had no idea she was running for anything. But I'm glad that people voted for her because Brooke is a. She's a lovely gal. She really was great.

[A]

So Giselle's like, wow, Monique, you know, I didn't know what to expect. But you're so refreshing. Your energy, your vibe. I didn't even have to bring a bodyguard today. And she's like, oh, thank you, thank you. Same to you, Giselle. You're still terrifying in terrible clothes. And there's something comforting about that. Good to see you.

[B]

Yes, yes. Thank you, thank you. So Wendy's like, well, last time we saw you, your life was different. Which is my way of saying, what happened? What's going on? What's the update with Quiz? What's going on? She goes, oh, you mean with my ex? It's like, no, Chris from the Bachelor. Of course your ex.

[A]

So, Chris Christie. Okay, Chris Christie.

[B]

What's going on?

[A]

Still upset over that bridge? I mean, what the hell do you think I'm talking about? Yes, your husband. And she's like. Because it looked like you had a good relationship. And she's like, oh, well, we had a good image. We had a good image. I don't know that you had a good image. And someone posted on Reddit the picture, the gift of her folding Chris's underwear. I totally forgot. I love that when she just lifted his underwear and they were. It was like she was making a poster for science fair, you know, that's huge.

[B]

It was enormous. So we see some of their life, and Wendy's like, whoa, dm Monique. I mean, talk about having an image, you know, Wendy and Eddie. Well, if the alley. Allegedly. Allegedly. So Monique is like, yeah. And, you know, I wasn't being loved properly, and I wish somebody would have told me, because, you know, whoever you marry, that person could actually get worse. Do you need someone to tell you that?

[A]

Did you. I think that that's just.

[B]

Have you seen Kramer vs. Kramer?

[A]

Yeah. Does anybody say, wow, I married somebody. And let me tell you, they get better every day. I've never heard it. Literally never heard it.

[B]

People get divorced not because one of them gets better. Actually. Actually, I should say that that's. Actually, sometimes that does happen. Well, sometimes someone does get better, but, like, yeah, that's. You know, things get worse.

[A]

I think the only way people get better after you marry them is if they had a cold on your wedding day. That's the only way.

[B]

Well, it's like what people say on wedding days. May this be the worst day of your life. So till death do you part.

[A]

They wouldn't have to say that if it just got better, you know? I mean, the whole thing about vows is like, okay, look at this hottie next to you. They're going to be ugly. Soon there's going to be hair coming out of their nose, out of their ears, out of their butt crack, and you still have to stay with them until you're both dead. Okay. Are you going to do it? If you do it, we'll give you new silverware and, you know, people will chip in for your honeymoon. How about it, kids?

[B]

She. She says the first time that she thought she couldn't do it anymore was when her daughter was six months old. So it's been. It's been a while. I always. Just always. I always think about the two of them having sex. Like, I literally cannot imagine being under him. I'd be like, press flat into the.

[A]

Into the mattress.

[B]

It just. He's like a giant.

[A]

It's like the memory foam when you get up is just like two craters where his hands were, and then, like, your little body shape where you were just crushed down. You know, it's like for the memory to unmemory itself.

[B]

It's like the end of the Naked Gun when Ricardo Montablanc falls off the stadium and then marching band walks all over him.

[A]

So she's like, well, I wasn't being loved properly. And they talk about her kids and how big they are, and she's like, I get emotional when I talk about my kids. I mean, Milani, she's so artsy. Chase, he's a bank now. I mean, God, he's done so much.

[B]

He's done so much. They named a game such an Old Soul.

[A]

One person runs, and the other person runs after them. I mean, he's really done well. He's really done well.

[B]

Monique's like, you remember when we went to France? And she goes, you know Giselle, you know, me and you, we've always been, like, bumping heads. But you said some real stuff to me then. And you were talking about how when you're with a man that has had the limelight, and then you start stepping into your own, and things become about you, and that can cause tension. Giselle's like, totally. Giselle doesn't remember saying that. She's like, oh, I will take credit for whatever I said back six or.

[A]

Seven years ago when I said I hated your five homes and your stupid fish tank in your kitchen. Or, I'll take the credit, though. Thank you.

[B]

Angel's like, guys, a wag is talking. Be quiet. A wag is talking.

[A]

So Giselle's like, baby wag, baby wag. Have the floor. Baby wag. And Giselle's like, well, I remember all of it. Her being Embarrassed about the things that Chris would say to her publicly. And she was always working overtime to make him appreciate her. And she knew one day that Monique would wake up and say, you know what? I don't want to live like this anymore.

[B]

You might be asking, what was the straw that broke the camel's back in your marriage? I'm like, I don't know if it was a straw. I think it was just like. Like, I think Chris getting on a camel would break the camel's back.

[A]

Yeah. Monique's like, actually, we went on vacation and Chris tried to run a camel and broke his back. And I actually left him. I was so destroyed over that broken donkey for life.

[B]

Disclaimer. This is not fat shaming. This is just that Chris is. Is an enormous.

[A]

He's not fat. He's huge. It's not about. He's a gigantic football player. Yeah. He's a wall of a man with.

[B]

The deepest voice we've ever heard on Bravo. I actually have to say, I love hearing his voice. No, I just. His voice.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

It's like deep and velvety. Yeah. I'm getting on the camel.

[A]

I think that's why it takes so long to divorce someone like Chris, even when they're boss. You know, just being bossy and stuff. Like, why aren' the chores? I'm like, say it again. Just say it again.

[B]

I know. I love when he would talk. I loved it so much. He's like, bodique, is my underwear ready yet? Yet, yet, yet.

[A]

Yeah, he's just a big man. I remember when he was on. Wasn't that, like, back when Trump was running or something years ago, and he was. Everyone was always saying, build the wall. We were like, just have Chris stand there, save us all some tax money. You know, he's just such a big man. So she is talking about how, you know, when Chris wanted something, he was always very nice, but then once he got what he wanted, he would go back to being an asshole. And so she put the theory to the test, and he was being really nice to her, so she thought, okay, I'll give him some ass. And then the next day, he rolled over and it was nothing. And she felt like a piece of meat once again. Well, listen, I don't doubt that that happened, but there had to be. I don't. I don't take that as an excuse for getting married, because everybody would get divorced if that was the case. Everybody's nice for a little ass. That's marriage, right?

[B]

Yeah, but he must have been. He must have he was a jerk to her. Yeah, this guy was an asshole.

[A]

I think even if she just listed everything from the show, we would still be cheering for her because she needed to get out of there. I'm glad she got out of there.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, I, I, I, I feel like it's, Yeah, I feel like she, I feel like there's probably actually more to the story, but I, Yeah, I.

[A]

Want to know the more is what I'm saying.

[B]

And. Yeah, that's what you're saying. And so she said the next morning, she looked at him and said, you will never enter me again. Like, whoa, not enter. She, Yeah, I said enter. I said enter.

[A]

And Wendy does the clack, the fan clack thing where she's like, she's like, hold on now. So Monique's like, yeah. And I said, no looking back. And actually, you guys added years onto my marriage because I realized, like, you saved me so much time fighting with him because I was always fighting with you. And they all start laughing. That's like the most positive way to look at your time on Housewives.

[B]

So now going from Monique and her football man, we now go to angel with her football man as they go and they look at a house. So, But I will say that it does seem like Bobby. I mean, I don't know. I, I actually never saw too. I saw like, I feel like I saw standard cracks with Monique and Chris, but it was like the typical Real Housewives stuff. It seems like Bob and Angel in a good place. But I'm like, Because part of me wants to be like Angel. Keep your eyes and ears open. This is, this is one wag is giving you the warning signs right now. Keep, you know, but it seems like Bobby's okay. So they go looking at this.

[A]

Bobby's hot as.

[B]

First of all, Bobby is so hot.

[A]

And he seems nice. Yeah, he's got, and I trust a person who eats on camera. You know, he like fully ate on camera. Remember when he took his whole napkin and wiped his face like this?

[B]

He's also. We saw. Did you see Bobby at Bravocon?

[A]

No.

[B]

When we, when we first show.

[A]

What?

[B]

Okay, so one thing that happened at BravoCon, as we may have mentioned, is that when we first got there, there was like a mix up with our passes and everything. And so we got sent down to the talent entrance, which is where all the Bravo liberties were coming in and out of. And as we got there, angel and Bobby came out of the door. And Bobby, I mean, look, you may, you maybe got distracted because we had Just arrived. We literally had just arrived. But like, wow, Bobby, I was busy.

[A]

Calling the police, saying, where the fuck are our passes? How dare you bring me to Las Vegas and then treat me like this.

[B]

Well, I have to say, I didn't even notice angel because we were with our friend Erica. Erica Cobb. Go check out our podcast. And so Erica knows Angel. In fact, I think Angel's on Erica's podcast this week. And so Erica. The only reason why I knew it was angel is because Erica ran up to her and was like, oh, my God, they hugged. And then I saw Bobby right behind her. But it just goes to show, like, it's hard to. I guess it's just like hard to get a. Get a. Get a grasp on Angel's face. It's just between the picture and in person and TV sometimes.

[A]

Was it like morphing? Was it like morphing in a different.

[B]

Well, I also didn't get. I didn't see a lot of flick.

[A]

Through the filters on the phone. It's like.

[B]

I was like those kitty cat ears. But I also didn't get to see.

[A]

A lot of her because wait a minute, Angel's smiling. And then it's like. And a big tongue comes out.

[B]

That tongue comes out. But also, Erica hugged her. So because she hugged her, an obscured Angel's face. And then by that point, I was looking at Bobby.

[A]

So wow. Anyway, he's hot. So another thing I'll say is that this is very rare that they go look at a house on Housewives that's actually a good house. They look at so many shots. Shitty, ugly houses on this show. It's almost as bad as House Hunters. This house was amazing. I thought I loved.

[B]

No, it was amazing.

[A]

I thought this was beautiful.

[B]

It was actually so amazing. I was like, why doesn't Bravo do some sort of like, House Hunters for their Bravo liberties? You know, they should do that, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. But then again, remember when they tried to have Reza do an interior design show and watch for half an hour? He's like, you could put a staircase here and like, like ash or turf here and it would look beautiful. And then we watched a whole half an hour and the people just chose not to do anything at all. Like, it was. We started, you know what?

[A]

I'm gonna put like a lawn but on your wall. Do you remember? He, like, planted grass on a wall. They were like, the wall is now crumbling and moldy. Thank you, sir. Thanks for coming over. It's so Persian.

[B]

That was also, I think a Maryland.

[A]

Based episode commercials Here comes one right now.

[B]

Anyway, they look around this house. It's beautiful. I love how as soon as they get to the house, Bobby just runs to go to the bathroom. I was like, okay, yeah, I don't know. Is that. Are. Are you allowed to use a bathroom in a house that you're looking at? Is that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I guess that's when I was looking for houses. My sister kept toilet paper in her purse because they never have toilet paper in the houses, I guess, to make you not use the bathroom. But she always had to go pee, and she was always looking with me, so she brought. Yeah, I've peed in many a toilet. How are you going to know you want to live there? You need to pee in the toilet, See how it flushes. And then you also need to turn on the shower and see how the water pressure is very important.

[B]

That's exactly why every house I looked at, I always took a shower.

[A]

Exactly. It's important to be naked in the living room. Walk around and see if anybody sees you through the windows.

[B]

It's important to see if, you know, you could have, like, how will this house do with your family? That's why I always would invite my family over, and we'd stay there for a week. You know what was so hot was how, like, every room they went into, they had to, like, check to see if Bobby could clear the door frame. And, like, he kept on, like, it always. The door frame would always hit him in, like, at the forehead. And I was like, oh, God, Bobby. So tall. So tall and so leggy. Yeah, I don't even have a leg thing. But when he sat down in that chair and, like, crossed his legs. Oh, my God, and those thighs. It was.

[A]

It was like watching a tree just bend over. Another tree. I was like, wow.

[B]

It was like. It was like two cellos just crossing each other. It was amazing.

[A]

So she's talking a lot. This is an angel scene, so I can't even believe we've talked this long. But, yeah, she talks a lot. And I'm just like, oh, but the house was very pretty. And then she talks about how home hunting is difficult. But the last time they did this for, like, four years. So they've got time. And I would hate to be their realtor. So they check out the house. It's very nice. And then they sit down to gossip, which is why they're really there. She's like, you know, I wanted to talk about wine and weed Wednesdays, you know, because I could see my friends chilling out here. And he's like, okay, let's talk about your friends. So she's like, you know, let's talk about Giselle calling me a catfish. And then I just started booing.

[B]

I know. I couldn't believe it. Really? You're still on this? And she goes, you know, I just. I felt a little bit blindsided. But like, the other thing is, you know, Wendy, it was very unnecessary, her just trying to say what she's saying to you is that you're a catfish. You know, I was just very disappointed in Wendy because she threw sauce on what Giselle was trying to say. I'm like, girl, you're only having this, okay? You may or may not be, you know, right or wrong, but it's too late to be having this epiphany now. It's way too late. Especially because you, like, you've confronted people about this like four times by now, okay? You just cannot.

[A]

It's enough. And you can't be mad at the sauce that was put on it. It's like a vegetarian screaming at ketchup about a hamburger. You know, be mad at the beef. Beef.

[B]

Be mad you provided the all beef patty, okay? Like, we all saw the photo, okay? You just cannot keep digging in about. You cannot make yourself this big of a victim about the photo that you did to yourself.

[A]

Yeah. So now she's going to try a second war over it with Wendy, because Wendy was agreeing with Giselle. So he's like, well, this is very unsettling, you know, and you have a right to feel that way. But. But just remember, you're still friends. And at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And is it really that serious? And I was like, Bobby's like, I've heard about this. You've talked about this in six houses that we've gone to look at. He's like, ma', am, I would rather.

[B]

Bonk my head on 12 more door jams than listen to this picture again. About this picture again.

[A]

Okay? So now we go to an absolutely fucking God awful fashion show. It's one of the worst we sat through in a while. And that is the GNA fashion show, otherwise known as Giselle and Ashley going to Lunch. Who dresses you too? Jesus. And I'm not even a fashion gay, but even I'm like, good Lord.

[B]

And Ashley, Ashley's in some sort of like, what was a green dress, Like a weird, like, ripple. It looked like kale had the shape of a kale leaf at the bottom. And she comes and she's wearing heels that she's, like, not comfortable in. So she's, like, sort of teetering over. She's teetering in them, like a weird Frankenstein thing. She comes, like, into the restaurant. So she sits down with Giselle.

[A]

I'm sorry to interrupt you. I think Giselle's outfit that I'm talking about was the one she wore to the later event. That was. It looked like she got toilet papered. She looked like she was playing a mummy or something, where it was like a sheet going, kind of tied over her boobs and then around. I don't know. It's some crazy fashions on this.

[B]

So Tia and Kierna join, and Ashley's asking if they're recovered from the pride parade. And Karen is saying that pride wore her down to the ground. What a surprise. Kierna got tired.

[A]

Only Kierna. Kieran is review for Pride. I'm tired.

[B]

I was just tired. So Ash is like, you guys can't hang. I was hanging out till three in the morning, and Tia's like, just meeting Grace the other day. I mean. Oh. I mean, I'm obsessed with her. What a wonderful child. Can I have her? Can you have my children, please? My children have parties with teenagers throwing up red stuff by the bedside. Give me Grace any day.

[A]

Well, she couldn't remember your name, so she wanted to call you English Muffin Nach. Oh, she can. I would love that.

[B]

So Giselle's like, well, you know why? Saturday is where I let y' all know I'm a bad with 10 million downloads.

[A]

Ah, yeah. So they hit the 10 million download milestone on Reasonably Shady. So that's pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah, it is very cool. She's saying how they've been nominated for an NAACP Image Award, and they're also one of the one of Black Effects top podcasts. And so they just want to celebrate. So, like, you know. That's awesome. Good. Congratulations. So Kieran is like, I have to say something. When I was leaving Friday, Cookie called me, and I'm like, hey, have you talked to Karen? And she's like, what does da da mean? I'm like, oh, no, the da da da is actually not. It's. You're supposed to. It's like, it insinuates that there's more to it. And then Cookie was like, why do you keep saying. Okay, get to the point.

[A]

Okay, well, I'm tired. This story has made me tired. Okay, you can do it. You can do it, Karen. I'll finish the paragraph.

[B]

Anyway, so Kieran says that when she's talking To Cookie, Cookie was like, hold on, Chris Samuels is calling me on the other line. So Chris Samuels speaks to Cookie and tells Cookie that Monique was trash talking him. And, and so Cookie then relays this to Kierna, and Kieran is like, no, that did not happen. So then Cookie's like, well, why am I hearing that? He had bad sex and treated her like a piece of meat, you know, and so apparently this is all 20 minutes of that scene we had just, you know, described of them I having lunch after Pride. So it's a little confusing. So for. In summary, what it means is that they had lunch and after lunch, 20 minutes later, K called Cookie. Probably to be messy, but it turns out that Stacy beat her to the punch by calling Chris first. And then Chris called Cookie to be like, what the fuck? And now Cookie selling K like, what the fuck?

[A]

Yeah. So she's like, Stacy did it. Stacy's the one who called Chris, you guys. And T is like, oh, no way. And wait a minute. So wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And they're like, literally in shock that Stacy would do this. I was shocked too. I mean, damn, you call him immediately as you're leaving the place to be like, yeah, your ex wife showed up and talked about you. That's not cool. But I still think K might have called Cookie and told her. And now they're gonna pin it on Stacy. Although Stacy's so slippery. I have to be very careful with standing up for Stacy just because I like her on the show. Because she probably did this.

[B]

Yeah, she probably did. I mean, she. She's caught in like a bald faced lie in this episode. And like, Chris calling to say why were. Why was Monique saying that we had bad sex means that he did find out something. It could have been a producer, though. Could have been a producer. Probably Stacy.

[A]

It was probably Stacy. So Giselle's like, wait a minute. We had a sister moment with Monique, who I've had bodyguards against for five years, but how could she interrupt our sisterhood? Da. And then she calls Chris and Giselle's like. And Tia points out, yeah. And he's picking up immediately like, what? What's going on here? And she's like, well, I don't. Oh, God.

[B]

I just want to say, look, I'm team Monique with Monique and Chris 100. But realistically speaking, Stacy literally met Monique an hour beforehand. And she has a social. She has a friendship with Chris Samuels. It's not the craziest thing that she calls up Chris Samuels and be like, Yo, I just met your ex. And she was saying this, like, it's. It just. It's. I understand you want to be loyal to your TV show, but, like, in the. In the world of life, if you know someone, if you're like, that's her. Her entry into this relationship is through Chris. It's not that crazy. I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm just saying it's not crazy. Crazy. Crazy that Stacey would call the person that she already knows and says, hey, I just met your wife. And just so you know, just so you know, she's saying this about you.

[A]

Or that Chris knew that they were going to be shooting with Monique that day anyway, because he would probably. You know, it's like they have a shooting schedule, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he knew and called Stacy and was like, so what'd she say? She's like, oh, you know, she was just saying, you know, in your marriage, like, they asked her when she realized when she was done, and she said when she had to put a Do Not Enter sign on her vajayjay because you only used her for sex, and she felt like a piece of baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which still wouldn't be great. I mean, really, in any case, any way, it happens. Not great. It's not great.

[B]

It's not. It's like, if I were Stacey, I would not have done it. Because it's like, yes, you don't know Monique, but, like, you're in this. Clearly, she's gonna be on the show.

[A]

I'm sorry. It's called a sisterhood. Okay.

[B]

It's a sisterhood. This is a sisterhood. It's a sisterhood. Surviving Monique. Monique is.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Just to quote. Just to quote, Married to Medicine. This is a sisterhood.

[B]

Oh, I was doing Heather. Gay Heather. Gay sisterhood.

[A]

No, no. I'm just bringing it all back.

[B]

But they. They should have a sisterhood off.

[A]

We are sisters. Quad. How could you do this to me year after year?

[B]

So Giselle's like, well, I don't care whether or not you're having sex with Chris. He shouldn't know anything of what we discussed. You're. You talking to me, and I'm calling Michael Darby. I'm like. But it's like, I. I don't. I'm surprised. I'm actually defending Stacy on this, because at first I was like, oh, that's shady. But now I like, now that I've sort of talked it out, I'm actually like, again, I just.

[A]

You talk yourself out of being mad at Stacy.

[B]

Yeah, that's the best.

[A]

No, I think Stacy's in the wrong on this one, I have to say. I think Stacy's in, in the wrong. If this is true, she, she should.

[B]

I don't, I don't think she should have said it. I'm just saying that their level of outrage in. They keep on trying to make it seem like Stacy has violated, you know, girl code by even talking to Chris before she even knew Monique. And it's like, I don't think that's a violation of, of girl code. And I just think in this case, like, like, I don't. I would not have done it. I think it's tacky and I think it's not smart. But like, the fact that she did it is not as big of a girl code violation as they're making it out to be because they're really. She doesn't have any relationship with, with Monique whatsoever. So I'm just saying, like, like they're acting. They're acting. You can't compare, you can't compare it to like your Giselle to her relationship with Michael Darby or to Ashley because that's like a, a deep relationship that goes back many years. Well, I will just offend Stacy because I love Stacey. Okay? Just let me.

[A]

I like Stacey. I can't defend. She did this. If she did this, she's in the wrong. But I will say, if we're going to be talking about sisterhood and this and that, if Cookie is so in the sisterhood and she's like up like she's like the best in the sisterhood and she's going to be the, the judge and the arbiter of everybody's sisterhood levels, then why would anybody be for gossip in the first place? Why would the man's first call be to Cookie? Cuz he knows she's going to talk and spill the tea. So if we're having a sisterhood off, I don't think Cookie's going to win this one because the man is calling her first to find out information.

[B]

And Cookie called Kierna, by the way. I think I said that K called Cookie, but Ker said that Cookie called her. So Cookie's calling to get the, to get, to get dirt as well. I mean, look there. It should not have been. Sasha should not have done it.

[A]

It.

[B]

I'm just saying, okay? They're gonna, they're gonna nail her to the cross. I'm not sure this is a cross nailing. I think this is a, like, Stacy, that was wrong moment.

[A]

Yeah, but it's all adding up, you know, it's like, it's like in our dwell hello this week, it all adds up. It's all starting to add up with Stacy where it's like one thing and then another thing. And some of the things I think are, you know, not even real, but it's just in their evidence packet. It just keeps adding up against Stacy, you know, so this was not a good move on her part. Like if you know all these girls are coming for you and trying to get something on you all season, you've already got the thing that you kind of lied about, the weed thing. And then, you know, then you name your weed a Nigerian name. And then, you know, it's just all starting to add up against Stacy.

[B]

But why is it that every time something adds up against Stacy, it makes me like her more? I just find it too, I know entertaining when she, when she does these things. Like if she called him Chris, it's not right, but like, to quote, it's not right, but it's okay because it's like, I don't know, I like it amuses me so much.

[A]

Yeah. So Giselle's like, well, I don't care whether or not you're having sex with Chris, but he shouldn't know anything of what we discussed. Ah, well, you only don't care that she's having sex with Chris now because you have cared about it for the past three or four weeks that you've been trying to make it a storyline. And so now she's got another thing. So now they're saying Cookie's going to be at the GNA party. And so Ashley's like, oh, Cookie wants to sing like a canary, baby.

[B]

She does. Cookie is ready. And actually I honestly would like Cookie just to sing. Just in general. I feel like she probably has a very good voice. She probably has a nice like sort of smoky voice. I think she'd be a lovely singer.

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