#3094 Crappy Hour 12/01/25: Porsha Loves, Kandi Divorces, Mia Arrested

Summary

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Watch What Crappens – Episode #3094: Crappy Hour 12/01/25

Date: December 2, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Main Theme:
A Bravo-packed “Crappy Hour” where Ben and Ronnie riff on the latest Bravo news and gossip, including Porsha’s new relationship, Kandi’s headline-making divorce, Mia Thornton’s rental furniture arrest, and all the wild drama spinning out from the Bravo universe and beyond.

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Episode Breakdown

Opening Banter & Board Game Unboxing (01:09–05:41)

• Return from Break: Ben and Ronnie catch up after a long workday and Ben’s vacation.
• Gifted Board Game Unboxing:
  • Ben receives the “Rumors and Nastiness” board game by Meredith Marks.
  • He performs a humorous unboxing, describing the "fancy pink box," shot glasses, dry erase markers, and “caviar” (actually trivia/question cards, not actual caviar).
  • Ronnie deadpans, “Imagine if she just sent caviar in an unrefrigerated box.” (04:53)
  • The game is dubbed “a party game, shot glass kit, perfect for toddlers who don’t want to stain their clothes.”
• Tone: Playfully mocking, with plenty of improv and callbacks to Bravo tropes.

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Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Fruity Pebbles, and Uproarious Gossip (05:45–10:01)

• Ronnie raves about “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives”:
  • Discusses Demi and Jesse’s highly publicized feud involving cheating scandals and a bizarre “Fruity Pebbles” urine kink rumor.
  • “Old man Brett loves to drink her pee. He drinks it by the gallon. That’s what we call Fruity Pebbles.” – Ronnie (07:01)
  • Ben: “It does seem to be a bit of a brand crisis... Not a great look, especially if your brand is an edible brand, like Fruity Pebbles.” (07:29)
• Meta Comment on Housewife Behavior:
  • Jesse once seen as hero, but Ronnie notes she “always tries to get people to sin on that show... you want to drink? Have a drink in the hot tub.” (08:12)
• Whitney’s “Chicago” Announcement:
  • Whitney (ex-Mormon Wives) to appear as Roxy Hart in the musical “Chicago.”
  • Ronnie and Ben debate Whitney’s career choices, with Ben noting “Dancing with the Stars is having a resurgence” (10:01), apparently drawing the biggest audience since the Friends finale.

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Kandi & Todd Divorce Deep Dive (10:56–18:58)

• Breaking News: Kandi Burruss files for divorce from Todd Tucker (RHOA).
• Restaurant Clues:
  • Ronnie links the shuttering of Todd-run restaurants as a sign: “Candy was getting sick of paying for his constant and utter failure.” (12:08)
• Ben on Todd's Failings:
  • “It became pretty obvious that Todd had no business sense and was just spending her money left and right...total user and a dick to her.” (13:05)
• Todd Seeks Custody & Prenup Challenge:
  • Todd demands primary custody (allegedly for child support) and questions the prenup’s legitimacy.
  • Ronnie: “Do you think Candy’s an idiot? You were dumb enough to marry him, but even Candy knew who she was marrying.” (13:59)
  • Ben: “In what world is Candy not a fit mother?... I’m Team Riley on this one.” (14:55)
  • Ronnie: “That is loser behavior, sir. Terrible luck to you, Todd Tucker.” (18:58)

Memorable Quote:

“I guess she decided to get rid of him, which is good. Good for her.” – Ronnie (12:13)

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Leah McSweeney’s “Villain Era” (20:20–24:23)

• Leah’s Brag Post:
  • Leah McSweeney (RHONY alum) posts a “just a baddie that ruined your favorite franchise” selfie online, taunting critics.
• Analysis:
  • Ben: Regrets her season two flop but acknowledges her first season was “tremendous.”
  • Ronnie: “She made a lot of what was fun about that show no longer fun. Please leave us alone.” (21:59)
  • They recall Leah’s highs (the “tiki torch” moment) and painful lows (“she even took away the joy in drunk ladies on RHONY...”).

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Mia Thornton Arrest Saga (24:38–27:31)

• Mia’s Arrest:
  • Ben: “She got arrested...for stealing furniture from an Airbnb... she’s a messy one.”
  • Body cam footage emerges; Mia posts glam shots with captions like “strength and grace” upon release.
  • Ronnie: “Girl, you stole a couch from an Airbnb... How much do you even make from stolen Airbnb furniture?” (25:34)
• Bravo Crime Hall of Fame:
  • Commenting on the bonkers and “sad” nature of post-Bravo fame, and how franchises seem to breed unusual criminal drama.

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Potomac’s Legal Woes – Karen, Wendy, Mia (27:31–28:10)

• Potomac Cast Trouble:
  • Three cast members recently in legal hot water (Karen DUI, Wendy’s sketchy robbery report, Mia’s theft).
  • Ronnie: “These are all stupid, stupid crimes. This [furniture theft] is the stupidest and the saddest.” (28:10)

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Bravo “J Day”: Jen Shah’s Upcoming Release (28:10–35:38)

• Jen Shah’s Prison Release Countdown:
  • Nine days to “J Day.” Ronnie and Ben riff on bets about her actual prison duration.
  • Discuss Bravo boss Frances Berwick’s statements about “anyone can be forgiven”—but doubts about Jen’s return due to “active scammer” status.
  • Ben: “Producers will always sort of write it off...but the problem is that Jen is ultimately NOT a compelling Housewife.” (35:15)
• Scams & Reality TV:
  • Ronnie relays a personal near-scam story, with Ben saving the day and referencing Andy Cohen’s own scam incident.

Notable Moment:

Ronnie: “She purposely went after the easy target, the easiest, the brokest people... I hope Bravo doesn’t stoop that low.” (33:22–33:55)

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Kelly Dodd’s Voicemail Scandal (36:09–39:51)

• Kelly’s Vicious Voicemail:
  • Kelly leaves a brutal voicemail for daughter Jolie (played on a friend’s vape-heavy TikTok).
  • “It was very Alec Baldwin... you little twerp, you’re disgusting.” – Ronnie (37:19)
  • Ben expresses sadness over the relationship’s public breakdown.

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Jenna Lyons Leaving RHONY & New York Reboot Shuffle (40:20–44:45)

• Jenna Declines “Friend Of” Role:
  • Jenna chooses not to stay as “friend,” despite her quirky charm on TV.
  • Jessel, Sai, and Erin retained for the next reboot; Ben expresses concerns about Erin’s entertainment factor.
• Oncasting Needs:
  • Ronnie: “I need funnier, wackier people. Not just boring.” (43:48)

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Portia Williams’ New Relationship (44:11–45:41)

• Portia’s “Hard Launch”:
  • Portia Williams (RHOA) makes her relationship with girlfriend Patrice “Sway” McKinney Instagram-official.
  • Ben and Ronnie admire Sway’s cuteness and business success.
  • Portia reportedly picked Sway over a male suitor: “The woman won out, and that is Sway.” (45:19)

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Prison News: McBee Dynasty’s Masha Jailed (45:41–46:54)

• Minor Scandal:
  • Masha Petrova sentenced to two days in jail for speeding.
  • Exploding with their trademark impressions, Ben and Ronnie speculate she argued, “I was racing home to save Ginger, my favorite chicken!” (46:33)
  • Ronnie laments not receiving a prized photo with Jesse McBee at BravoCon.

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Mary Cosby’s Son Arrest/Divorce Trouble (49:55–51:21)

• Update:
  • Mary Cosby’s son’s wife files for divorce as he remains in jail for a string of violations—protective order breaches, assault, trespassing, and more.
  • Ronnie reads the detailed (and grim) court order; Ben: “Makes me very sad. Very, very sad.” (51:21)

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Bravo-lite: Paige Desorbo vs. Patricia Altschul Instagram Feud (52:21–54:20)

• Paige vs Patricia:
  • Patricia slams Paige for refusing to “settle down” with Craig Conover.
  • Paige claps back, “I’ll just get married four times instead.” (53:17)
  • Ben recounts the growing tension, which started at a “Watch What Happens Live” taping. They largely side with Paige’s right to not want kids and shade Craig’s persistence.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Ronnie (On Kandi’s Divorce):

  “Candy was getting sick of paying for his constant and utter failure.” (12:08)

• Ben (On Todd Tucker’s Business Acumen):

  “It became pretty obvious Todd had no business sense and was just spending her money left and right.” (13:05)

• Ronnie (On Mia’s Arrest):

  “You stole a couch from an Airbnb... That’s why you went to jail!” (25:34)

• Ben (On RHONY):

  “Jessel was a great find—she has that delusion and she says dumb things.” (42:34)

• Ronnie (On Jen Shah):

  “I hope Bravo doesn’t stoop that low. Although I do watch Bravo because they DO stoop that low, so I wouldn’t be surprised.” (33:55)

• Paige Desorbo (Responding to Patricia Altschul):

  “I’ll just get married four times instead.” (53:17)

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Episode Highlights

• Playful unboxing of a Meredith Marks board game sets a gossipy, irreverent tone.
• Deep dive into “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” urine-drinking gossip (“Fruity Pebbles”), with rapid-fire riffing.
• Kandi Burruss & Todd Tucker’s split gets the scornful, comic “we told you so” treatment.
• Franchises like RHONY and Potomac picked apart for their villainous “heroes,” legal woes, and failed comebacks.
• A quick-fire lightning round: Leah McSweeney’s villain era, Mia’s arrest, Bravo’s scam history, Kelly Dodd unloading on her daughter, Jenna Lyons’ exit, Portia’s new romance, McBee trivia, Mary Cosby’s family drama, Southern Charm shade, and more.
• Throughout: Consistent fan interactivity (shout-outs to live commenters), incidentally dropped Bravo history, and frequent hilarious sidebars.

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Tone & Style

• Language/Tone:
  Biting, sarcastic, and affectionate in its snark. Ronnie and Ben “mock because [they] love,” but don’t shy from venting real frustration or admiration about Bravo personalities.

• Structure:
  Loosely organized but fast-moving—topics bounce between hot gossip, personal anecdotes, and audience comments.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• 01:09 – Show begins, board game unboxing
• 06:09 – Secret Lives of Mormon Wives “Fruity Pebbles” saga
• 10:56 – Kandi Burruss & Todd Tucker divorce news
• 20:20 – Leah McSweeney “villain era”
• 24:38 – Mia Thornton’s arrest
• 28:10 – Jen Shah prison talk & Bravo’s forgiveness
• 36:09 – Kelly Dodd voicemail scandal
• 40:20 – Jenna Lyons and RHONY reboot
• 44:11 – Portia Williams’ new girlfriend reveal
• 45:41 – McBee Dynasty: Masha’s jail sentence
• 49:55 – Mary Cosby’s son’s legal trouble
• 52:21 – Paige Desorbo vs. Patricia Altschul feud

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of “Watch What Crappens” delivers a full buffet of Bravo messiness—family feuds, breakups, crime, comebacks, and internet spats—all filtered through Ben and Ronnie’s signature comedic lens. From deep-dish analysis of Kandi Burruss’s marital woes, and the bathroom talk of Bravo’s latest feuds, to the wild criminal tumbles of ex-Housewives, the podcast remains a snarky, informed safe space for Bravo-holics to catch up and cackle.

Memorable Sign-off:

“We mock because we love.”
“Terrible luck to you, Todd Tucker.” (18:58)

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Transcript

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[A]

Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That is Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi.

[B]

How's it going?

[A]

Good. How you doing today, baby?

[B]

I'm doing quite well. But you know what, though? I feel like. Should we. Should we get. Should we sizzle up this look a little bit? Oh, yeah.

[A]

Look at that beautiful blue background. Oh, yeah. We were just doing our, our other live thing for the day and had to have a black background. So here we go. Let's get some color back into it. I'm gonna make our faces bigger. What do you think of that?

[B]

Oh, yes. Going wild today.

[A]

Giant faced men. How is everybody today? Ben, welcome back from vacation.

[B]

Okay, thank you. I love that we had all this time off and today it's. We've been working, doing. This is our fourth thing because we did Potomac and Marriage of Medicine and then we did Amazon and now we're doing this. So we're diving into this week. Oh, it is as it is the biggest shopping moment of all time. I forgot. I forgot. Ronnie. I was going to. I was going to do this right now. I may have to go back to the wide view to have to have as much space on the.

[A]

Go ahead, take it. Take it, baby.

[B]

We're just gonna get a little wide. No, no, you don't have to remove yourself. You. I actually would like you to stay because something arrived and perhaps it's appropriate for a toddler. It's a copy of the Rumors and the Nastiness, a new board game by Meri Mars.

[A]

Nastiness My Merith Mar.

[B]

Actually, what's funny, look at how the Rumors is spelled. It's Spelled with a. Shall we do an unboxing?

[A]

Sure. The unbox that sucker. Get it ready to go. So for those of you just listening, Ben just got a big box in the mail. It's pink. Okay. It's a big pink box. And he's now opening it with scissors.

[B]

The scissors. It says on the front it's the Meredith Marks limited edition. This is the limited edition and it's a very good game. You will not fall asleep. So you'll always know exactly how this game will end. Unlike certain feature films that I may have watched on an airplane. Okay, the plastic is coming off. It's a very nice box. You guys know I, I, I play a lot of board games, so I'm, I, I appreciate good quality. I'm going to take off the the rumors and nastiness band that is holding it. My fear is that it's going to have like some perfume smell. Do you think it won't have a perfume smell it?

[A]

There won't be a perfume smell in there. Someone says, does it come with caviar?

[B]

Now that would.

[A]

Caviar moving around the board, actually.

[B]

Oh, I figured out how to open it.

[A]

Ready? Oh, is it a hinge box? It's a hinged box. How nice. Wow. Get fancy.

[B]

Okay. The inside, the inside says, is it a rumor or the nasty truth? That's what's on. That's that line of the box. So what we have here, we have a series. There we go. Here are the rules. We have a series of shot glasses. This is basically a shot glass kit. We have some dry erase markers, perfect for a toddler who doesn't want to stain his clothes. And we have, we do have a caviar situation here. There's. But I don't think this is actual caviar. It says it's a, it says it's. Caviar is best served with a side of chaos. This isn't caviar. Imagine if she just sent caviar in an unrefrigerated box.

[A]

Nice room temperature caviar.

[B]

Oh, my God. It's not. These are questions that you can ask people. Oh, okay, questions.

[A]

Is it waterproof so you can play in the bath?

[B]

That would be very smart. So we have, I guess ones are. Some are rumors and some are nasty. This is actually a very well produced game. It looks like it's more of a party game. Let's see. This is. Okay, here's a question. It says, is this a rumor or nasty truth? Circle one gossip coaster. Okay, well, I, I will learn the rules to This I will report back. I will see if I can play it. My board game friends are gonna be like, what the hell is this? What is this? But I'm determined to get this to the table. I will report back. Thank you, the Mark's family, for sending me this lovely board game. So that's it.

[A]

Wow. The entire family sent it. Well, that is something.

[B]

They all put it in the mailbox together. They each put a hand on it, and we're like, send it off to Ben.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's a pretty nice gift. I was also given a great gift this Thanksgiving weekend, and that was gossip from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which I'm finally getting caught up on. I'm on, like, episode four of the new season, and Jesse and Demi are at it. Have you been following any of this?

[B]

I know that there was something with the Fruit Loops that came back or whatever. Fruity Pebbles, pretty Pebbles.

[A]

So, yeah, they've been going at it. You know, Demi is going on post calling, you know, Jesse thirsty. Both, both of them are questionable if you ask me. And my niece was watching some of this with me, and she was watching some of the Instagrams with me, and she said, so wait a minute. So both of them have been cheating on their husbands with some other guy, but now they're fighting over who actually had sex with the guy? I said, yeah, basically. Basically. So they've been fighting back and forth. A lot of you have been following that and know all the little dirty details. But Jesse came on and was like, okay, guys, well, just so you know, the whole Fruity pebble storyline was because her old man Brett, which I like that they're calling him Old man Brett now. She said old man Brett loves to drink her pee. He drinks it by the gallon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's what we call Fruity Pebbles. So there you go. Have fun with that, Demi. And then everyone's like, oh, my God, Fruity Pebbles was pee the whole time. Which, listen, as someone who loves Fruity Pebbles, is Fruity Pebbles going to sue these women? Because they should. Like, I don't want to eat Fruity Pebbles. Now, thinking of Brett drinking Demi's pee. I mean, listen, do whatever you'd like to, but why do you have to involve my favorite cereal is Cocoa Pebbles.

[B]

Next.

[A]

Leave Cocoa Pebbles alone. It's a lot.

[B]

It does seem to be a bit of a brand crisis. I, I, I do agree. If your brand is being put out there as slang for urine, not a great look. Especially if your brand is, is an edible brand, like Fruity Pebbles. So that's great. Yeah, it's an issue.

[A]

And Demi's response was to do some, like, kind of pr. Wr. LGBT written response. It was like, my husband and I's personal, private sex life being exposed on the national television is quite a choice and a disaster. You know, she goes through this whole victim thing. I'm like, babe, you're exposing this other girl on national tv. Like, we're gonna cry for you. But listen, I'm not crying for anybody on that show, especially Demi or Jesse, because Jesse's kind of the hero this season, even though she kind of cheated on her husband, and somehow we're all rooting for her. But I will not forget Jesse is the one who's always trying to get people to sin on that show. She's the one who's always like, you want to drink? You want to drink? Come on, have a drink in the hot tub. She's always. And she was Demi's friend, so I think she was just as messy. But, man, I'm loving watching that show because, as usual, they are just stabbing each other in the back and just giving the biggest, fakest, sweetest religious smiles as they do it. It's a creepy show, and I love every creep on it. Every single one of them. I love.

[B]

Speaking of which, as long as we're talking about that, I. So I just wanted. I went to look to see where Whitney landed on Dancing with the Stars, because I know she made it really far. Guess where Whitney is going to next? Chicago. Actual. The actual musical Chicago Whitney from Secret Lives of Dancing, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is going to play Roxy Hart. So there you go, everyone. That's two hours. That news broke two hours ago right there. So the name on everybody's lips is Joseph.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's time to just close it. I mean, you know, Whitney's kind of a dick, too. I mean, Whitney's whole thing. Last season, she worked so hard to get back on that show, and then this year, the show opens with them saying, yeah, Whitney won't come because she was demanding, like, a. A role in a scripted show and more money than. I think. It wasn't even about money. It was like she wanted a role in a show and all this other stuff. I mean, you know, you can't blame a girl for asking. But I don't know. I think she's riding high and good for her. You know, she got to go on Dancing with the Stars. She did really well on that show, too. Yeah. And she gets to go on Chicago. But Those are all kind of like dead end things, you know what I mean? Dancing with the Stars that roll in Chicago.

[B]

Like, no. Dance with the Stars is having a resurgence. It was the largest. It was like the largest prime time audience since the Friends finale. The dancing of the stars found, which I don't know why.

[A]

Wow. Really?

[B]

But apparent.

[A]

Apparently that's huge because that was a different time too, you know.

[B]

Yeah. Dancing the Stars has been leaning more into tick tock users, which is what these girls are also. And so it's really powered the ratings. Dylan Efron form, you know, formerly of Traders. So he's relevant to our world. He was also on it. He also made it very far, which is probably because he's like super hot. So people were like, oh, let's just see him. They just have him shirtless every single week. But Robert Irwin won and I saw the first week and Robert Irwin was so good. And I was really also happy that Andy Richter made it really far. But I fell off after the first week. I. I tried to watch some more of it, but you know, life happens, guys. Fruity Pebbles happen, guys. And you just can't keep up with Dancing with the Stars.

[A]

But yeah, so people are telling us she's also going to be in some kind of a TV movie or something. She should be on Broadway. So, yeah, I guess mostly people are behind Whitney, so that's good. I don't really care. I don't hate Whitney anymore because I think she had a good season of apologizing last season, Season two, where she just like sucked it up, you know, and that's on these shows. That's big. That's hard to do. To spend an entire season sucking up to people that you probably really hate, you know, so, you know, good for her. I wish her the best. Okay, so next up, the big news, I think this week has been the Candy and Todd divorce. Candy and Todd from Real Housewives of Atlanta announced that they are done. So they're done. I saw Candy doing. I saw a clip of her Amazon Live. And she was saying, y', all, this has been going on for a long time. I know. I don't cry, but I have cried. You know, she was doing that whole thing and she said it's been in the works for a long time. I suspected it when the restaurant started closing because Blaze closed. OLG closed. And those are all Todd's babies. And I knew that once those started closing, Candy was getting sick of paying for his constant and utter failure. So, you know, I guess she got. She decided to get rid of him, which is good. Good for her.

[B]

I mean, when they closed, how about when they opened, he just started spending all of her money. We always said so. There was like one season where I think we were on Todd's side early on when we thought, like, it was cute and Mama Joyce is being so mean to him and we're like, oh, my God, but he's so cute and they like each other. It was not right. Mama Joyce was right all along. As Brittany Beauchamp in the comments says, Mama Joyce was a hundred percent correct. And the thing is this, the audience came to Mama Joyce's side pretty quickly. You know, like, it became pretty obvious that Todd had no business sense and was just spending her money left and right. Doing this like, garbage projects like Todd Tucker Presents the Pass or Blaze or all these restaurants or that. Remember he. The Mexican restaurant? He just kept on spending her money and. And then he would like off to the strip clubs. And I know strip club culture is different in Atlanta and everything, but, like, there just was a sense that he was just a user and he was a dick to her and he made her feel bad for going out and working. I'm like, where do you think your money's coming from? I guarantee it's not coming from Blaze.

[A]

Yeah, fuck that guy. Glad he's gone. As Jamie Patel is pointing out in the comments, as Aunt Bertha once said, I think this was a scheme set up by Todd to bring the bullshit. And I would agree. I'm glad to see Todd out of there now. Todd is not going to go easy, unfortunately. They just spent Thanksgiving together for the family with her family, and everything seemed like, oh, wow, maybe this will go peacefully. I don't. I didn't think so. And sure enough, Monday after Thanksgiving, he drops the bomb that he is demanding primary custody and questioning the prenuptial agreement. So Todd wants full custody. Gee, I wonder if it's because he'll get child support for that. And he's questioning that prenup, which is hilarious. Do you think Candy's an idiot? I mean, she was dumb enough to marry you, but I think even Candy knew who she was marrying. She's. He's not going to get away with that. What do you think? What?

[B]

Well, first of all, happy birthday to Debbie, who's spending her 70th birthday with us right now. Happy birthday. I think, like, what. What is. What money has Todd brought to this relationship that he could possibly say he is owed? I don't think so. No, he is a total user. I mean, no, no, no. And he wants full custody. Why would he. Why. In what world is Candy not a fit mother? You know, she's got like, this entire. She has this enormous family behind her, and they all take care of each other. We've seen it through the years. We've seen how great Riley has turned out. Okay? She's like a star on Next Gen New York City. She's a lovely young woman who pays for assholes bar tabs with Apple pay. So, like, why would you ever. I don't like. Honestly. And this is. And Kayla seems very nice as well, too. But, like, if we're. We're gonna look at the scoreboard, I'm going with Team Riley on this one. I don't care. I'll say it. I'm going with Team Riley in terms of that, okay? So. I'm sorry, I do not. I'm not giving Todd full custody.

[A]

Well, according to Us magazine, which is where I'm getting these quotes. Tucker, 52, noted Burris work oblig allegations will continue to require her to be away from the children for at least the next several months. As he pleaded for primary custody, his filing noted the parties have been working cooperatively in an effort to resolve all issues. Blah, blah, blah. I want to get to the prenup. Apparently, he is saying that this prenup was filed under duress. It was signed under duress. Now, anybody who saw their show about their wedding, which I did, I watched all episodes of that, and that was not under duress. Okay? You had plenty of time. You knew what you were doing. There couldn't have been too much shock that you had to sign a prenup when you were marrying Candy. You lazy bastard. Go to work. Get a job, you lazy. And it's so great that Todd has that little shame that he is just becoming what everybody predicted he was going to be right from the beginning, you know, I. Do you think it's him just saying, like, well, everybody always called me a lazy piece of shit with no talent and no work ambition, and now I'm just going to do it. Is he going the Aaron Viper's way?

[B]

All I've got to say is note that this did not happen while she was on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And now suddenly, you know, like, suddenly now that the cameras are off, like, you know, this is all falling apart. And I'm not saying this is even Candy's fault, even though I think you told me earlier today that she was the one who filed for it. I'm just saying he probably was being Performative. I base this on nothing, just on, like, observation. Watching the show, he was probably being performative so he could be on the show. And then when the show's not there anymore, he's like, I'm out of here. And he starts being a dick. Remember when he bought that whole condo in, like, New Jersey? And he's like, yeah, this is where I can stay when I'm up in New York. Like, which was so obviously, like, a really weird choice that he didn't clue Candy into it. It felt kind of like a pad. Like, I. I don't know. I. And. And you know, also, like, you know, when I mentioned Riley and Kayla before, like, that was. That was kind of mean. But it's more like, like, Todd is so mean to Kayla. I'm sorry. He really is. And he was like, he was doing. He's like a very strict parent. And, you know, we always joke about how, you know, you know, parents, like, oh, you know what? Like, kids are. Want too much, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what I'm saying is, right, like, the Candy's method turned out very, very well, and Riley has really blossomed to be a wonderful person. And I just don't know why you would feel the need to just remove the children from Candy entirely. That's just absolutely crazy. I. I don't know. I do not. I.

[A]

Well, I guess what he's saying is that he wants primary custody because she's going to be out of town all the time, and she won't be able to make the primary decisions because she won't be there enough. So now he's mad that she's working too much while I'm sure trying to get her money as well, which he's going to get by working, so she's going to get by working on him. So, yeah, that guy's a loser.

[B]

So Candy's gonna be out of town all this time. So why did he buy that condo then in New York? Is that just for, you know, Architectural Digest? Like, you're gonna be out of town, too?

[A]

Well, obviously not, because we saw the condo. That is no Architectural Digest.

[B]

You will be traveling all over as well. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't believe in any of this. I think that I'm Team Candy all the way to the end. And I think that Candy seems like a great person. I think Riley seems like a wonderful person. I think Kayla seems like a wonderful person. The only one here who is a loser is Todd. And sorry, not backing you on this. One.

[A]

Yeah. That is loser behavior, sir. So terrible luck to you. Terrible luck to you.

[B]

Yeah, terrible, terrible luck to Todd Tucker. Don't want to hear it anymore from him. Enough. Shut up, mountain. For Todd Tucker.

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I think someone else who's really embracing their villainy is Leah McSweeney. Why are we still talking about Liam McSweeney? I don't know. I usually don't. I'll usually pass up a Liam McSweeney story because she's obnoxious as hell. But she did post this. I'm going to put this up on the screen so people can see it. Share screen, Share my window. This one with the evil on it. This is Leah McSweeney. She Real Housewives of New York alum Leah McSweeney mocks. Hold on, let me not sign in with Google mocks detractors and defiantly takes credit for the show's demise. She posted a picture of herself in like, I don't know, what is this? Like a little mini skirt and a bikini top, bending over in a limo and then biting her thumb and looking sexily in the camera with messy hair. And it says, just a baddie that ruined your favorite franchise, Black Hearts.

[B]

Yeah, you know, still seems to be happy to. To benefit from that though, huh? Seems to be happy to benefit from that franchise. Dang. Leah's such a disappointment. She just always is. I mean, her first season was so entertaining for me. She was so. I know that she was like Shitfaced. And she, like, that is an issue for her, and I get that. But she did have a real supreme knack for kind of calling things out. She was entertaining, not just because she was drunk all the time and crazy. And it's a real shame that. That just. That was. Had a spectacular flop, one of the biggest flops in Housewives history, like, to go from her first season to her second season.

[A]

But she even. She even took away the joy in. In, like, drunk ladies on Real Housewives of New York with her whole stunt of, like, they made me drink and they're the reason they put me in a bad situation, knowing I'm an alcoholic and made me drink. This is Real Housewives of New York, madame. You cannot take down a whole show because you can't. First of all, you started drinking before even. We don't even need to go back there. But they made a lot of what was fun about. She made a lot of what was fun about that show. No longer fun. Please leave us alone. Please. We've had enough of you.

[B]

Yeah, be gone. You know, it's so funny I was telling you this before about how last night, for no good reason, I went on to Blue sky and I. I posted my top 25 housewives who are cast from season five or later. I don't know why I decided to make a listicle and I decided to put it on Blue sky of all places. So I did. And I was struggling because I really. There was a part of me that really wanted to put Liam McSweeney on there because her first season was so tremendous. This. And I was like, I want to put her on there like that. Like, we. I don't want to erase that because it was so good. But then she was so, so bad. Her. Actually, she wasn't even. Honestly, even her second season, she was lame, but she wasn't as bad as other people are. But I think it's sort of just like when I think of the second season, I just think of sort of that attached to everything that followed. And it's just kind of like such a disappointment. Like she could have been one of the great ones. She really could have.

[A]

Didn't we almost have it all?

[B]

I know. And you, though. I'm never going to. I'm never going to forget the, The. The tiki. The tiki torches in the backyard. I mean, that's one thing that will. Well, that will always be. That will. We will always have that, and we'll always be able to enjoy that.

[A]

She had some classic moments, but she also had Real Housewives of Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip, as was pointed out here in the comments. And that was really when she just crashed and burned.

[B]

Yeah. Although she even had good moments in that. I remember when that. There was that scene where she was sitting at dinner and she was just being a big baby. But she was also, like, annoying everyone in a way that was, like, very funny to me. She was like, oh, you guys just, like, yapping on and on and on. And then, like, Alexia got so mad at her. Right. Wasn't Lacey, like, that's, like, really rude because I'm telling a story. She had moments. But, yeah. Ultimately, the. Obviously, we all know she sucks. It's just. I get sad. I get sad when I see potential go down the drain.

[A]

Yeah. So what. What do you want to talk about today, Ben?

[B]

Well, as long as we're talking about stuff, this is actually slightly older now because it broke the day after our last one.

[A]

I like that. I like that segue. As long as we're talking about stuff.

[B]

As long as we're talking about, like, big scandals, one thing that we really have not gotten to talk about is the Mia Thornton saga that's unfolding down in the south, which is that she got arrested, like, the day after our last. Not Bravo Con, but crappy Hour. I was so mad she got arrested. So everyone knows about this by now, but she got arrested for stealing their furniture in a. Was it an Airbnb? She was in from. From a rental. I'm like, God, oh, she's a messy one. She's a real.

[A]

And the body cam footage, you know, we got body cam footage from this one. And, you know, she's crying and stuff, and no one even had money to get her out. I mean, it was $2500. And I think she was in there for a long time. I mean, she was in there for days, if not a week, at least.

[B]

Where was Ink, bro?

[A]

He's, like, trying to sell the couch, probably.

[B]

It's like trying to put the bail money on the counter. Like, guys, I got it, because I'm just. Give me a. Give me an apple crate. Come on.

[A]

Yeah. And then she was posting on her Instagram when she got out, obviously herself, in, like, ball gowns and black and white photos, being like, strength. I am all about strength and grace and class. I'm like, girl, you stole a couch from an Airbnb. That's why you went to jail. He couldn't even afford to get out of there. What the hell is going on with you? What is going on. And then she said her guy had the. The furniture in storage somewhere, and so she didn't know how to get it. And how much do you even make from stolen Airbnb furniture?

[B]

Good Lord, I don't know. But poor Mia. She went from the joint to the joint. It's a sad saga.

[A]

The joint chiropractic to just the. Just the joint.

[B]

Just the joints. Just the joint.

[A]

Bless her tart little heart.

[B]

But I would say, like, you know, we. These scandals come through. Bravo. Fairly regularly, and this is the first time we've seen stolen furniture from an Airbnb. It's actually sad. It's actually like such a sad.

[A]

It is really sad because, yeah, one of the other headlines is Mia Thornton sued for eviction over unpaid rent weeks before airport arrest. So, you know, look, nobody wants to. Especially in the times we're living in, it's not like, ha, you're poor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But girl, stealing the furniture from your Airbnb and then putting it in your boyfriend's U haul rental is limit on. Pretty bad.

[B]

Come on. Yeah, that's.

[A]

That's pretty bad. Me?

[B]

Yeah, it's bad. But it's, it's also just like. But like, if you take away like the real world sadness of it, which is very sad because, like, it's clear that, like, I think we all, all had that sense that like, once she was off of Potomac, like, this was going to. This was gonna be her thing, and then it was going to be a very sad, like, post fame crush for her. But if you take away that depressing element of it, there is just, there's like, that sometimes, like Real Housewives crimes sometimes are so bonkers. So bonkers.

[A]

Yeah. Really. But it's crazy that that's the third person on Potomac to be in that kind of trouble recently. Because you had Karen, then you have Wendy, who has not been convicted or tried yet, but that's not looking good. And then you've got Mia. And I think that out of all of those, I mean, I thought, I mean, I guess they're all kind of stupid. They're all stupid crimes. They're all stupid. DUI is just stupid. And especially your fourth. I mean, that's just. That's just dumb. Wendy's was like the worst faked robbery ever, so that was really stupid. And then this one, stealing furniture. But this is the stupidest and the saddest.

[B]

Yeah. Well, the good news is we, instead of focusing on all the people who are going to jail, why don't we spread some holiday cheer around for the people who are coming out of jail. Because guess what? We are nine days away from J Day Jenshaw. We knew.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

We could someone.

[A]

He is getting shall east.

[B]

We. I think I could swear we made a bet on one of the crappy hours or one of the episodes about when Jen Shaw is going to be released. Or maybe it was Karen.

[A]

I think I said two years, but I was wrong. Right. Because it's been longer than two years. Has it been longer than two years? I think my guess was two years.

[B]

I think it's been about two years. But if someone could find that. Someone could find that in the archives, I would love to see where. Where we actually landed with that because, yeah, J Day is arriving on. On us for us. She's getting out of jail. I don't think that she's going back to Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. But, you know, crazier things, actually, because.

[A]

I said she'd be out in two years and she started her sentence on February 17, 2023. Thank you. Wait, I don't know. Does that make me late? So, wait, I seem to remember.

[B]

I actually.

[A]

Right, yeah, I'm late. Never mind. I didn't win.

[B]

I actually. I don't want to be like this, Ronnie, but I seem to remember in this case, I actually felt like that. I feel like I came in under you. I feel like I said that it was gonna be really in two years.

[A]

I have a big number.

[B]

That's why we need. Well, look this up for us.

[A]

Alas, it was longer than two years, so I still. I still lost. But, yeah, that's. That's pretty crazy. She's gonna be back. Do you think she's gonna be back on the show?

[B]

I. I don't think so, but I would not put it past Whitney to shoot a scene with her where she's like, yeah, I met with Jen because I needed to clear things up. I needed to get closure and I believe in forgiveness. So, yeah, even though she tried to drown me in a pond one time.

[A]

Theoretically.

[B]

Theoretically.

[A]

Well, she wouldn't know that word.

[B]

I think Whitney would do it, but I think. I don't think that. I don't think Andy likes Jen Shaw, and I don't think that he wants her on the show. The show has thrived without.

[A]

I don't know that it's really Andy's choice. You know, I mean, he's a producer, but I don't think he's like the, you know, he said himself that he's not the, you know, final voice over. There, So I don't know. And then they were introducing Francis. Your new or not introducing her, but they were. They were talking to Francis in some article which I didn't link today. I'm just thinking of what I read this week. But you know Francis, who's the head of the chairman of Bravo, and we met her at BravoCon. Ben. Ben and Frances are besties now, but Frances was in an article and they were interviewing her about who she would bring back. And she basically said, everybody who's been fired, she's like, sure, yep, I'd bring them back. Love her, too. She's great, too. Nene. Sure. Bring her back. You know, she loves everybody. So I think, right.

[B]

The headline literally says, bravo boss, Francis Berwick on the joy of BravoCon and who can be forgiven by the network? Karen Huger. And who can't? Jen Shaw, probably.

[A]

Well, but read it, because I don't think she said. I think she said that maybe Francis was in a good mood whenever they got Francis. First of all, I'd never heard of Francis being in. In an interview before. So I like that somebody got an interview with her. And I love that she's just so, like, laissez faire. She's like, yeah, sure, bring them back. Bring them all back. Love them all. I'll take them.

[B]

I think. I mean, Jen, being an active scammer is. Or having been an active scammer is really bad. And I guess people are saying in the comments that someone once scammed Andy Cohen, so he may have a real. A real ax to grind about this one.

[A]

That's true, because the same thing happened to him. It's almost happened to me. Thank God I have a Ben in my life. You know what? Andy needs a Ben. Because remember that day I called you and I was like, oh, my God, someone's trying to get in my Google account. I'm freaking out. I'm on with customer service at Google and they're telling me, you know, they're sending me a new pass, you know, a new number, and I have to send it to them. And you're like, I don't. I don't know. I'm like, this sounds fishy. I don't think I should give it to them. And you're like, ronnie, I don't think there is a customer service at Google. Like, they're not. I'm like, but they called me and I looked. I did a reverse lookup on their number, and it said Google. And you're like, ronnie, Google does not call you. He said this is a scam. I was like, I think it's a scam too, But I'm not. I'm not sure yet. Should I do it? Just so scared. They have my crypto. They have everything, Ben. Like, they could see everything that was on my. My passwords, you know, all the places that I had passwords to. And I was like, oh, my God, it's really them. How else would they know? Because they broke into your account, you stupid dick.

[B]

Yeah, that's how it's really scammers are. I mean, we've all been scammed. We've all been good. We're smart about it. And in fact, there was just an article in the New York Times over the weekend, this guy wrote about being scammed. And he goes, I. He goes, I write about scams for a living. I am aware of every scam in the book. I've been writing about scams for 20 years. I know them all, and I still just got scammed. So, like, we all. It happens to all of us.

[A]

They're getting really good at it. But, you know, Jen is the lowest of the low because she purposely went after the. The easy target, you know, the easiest. Like the saddest people, the brokest people, the old people who are living on their pensions, etc. So, you know, we don't have to, like, go on and on about how shitty she was because we've done that for years. But, yeah, I really hope Bravo doesn't stoop that low. Although I do watch Bravo because they do stoop that low, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did. My prediction is her ass will be back, but I hope that I'm wrong.

[B]

By the way, what was so funny was when you were actively getting scammed, I did think it was so interesting that when you put them on speaker for me, I heard in the background, but what about me? But what about me?

[A]

I need your Google password.

[B]

What about me?

[A]

Little did they know that's the password.

[B]

But you know what, though? Okay, Cynically speaking, people have committed all sorts of crimes and still wound up back on reality tv. Like, it's one of. It's one of the blights of the genre. Unfortunately, as much as I'm a proponent of reality TV and Real Housewives, whatever, this is something that happens and. And you can know. And producers will always sort of write it off by saying, but we're interested in telling human experiences. Like, even if someone committed a crime, we want to see what's it like after you've, like, been in jail and now, like have to navigate, navigate back with your friends. They'll come up with something like that. So even if you decide to take the cynical approach of like bring Jen back for some scenes, the problem is that, like, Jen is ultimately like not a compelling real housewife. And she never has been. There have been some times where she's been sort of interesting. The season, the season when everything crumbled for season two was truly like, I still think that's probably the number two best season that Salt Lake ever had.

[A]

Which one number?

[B]

Season two, when she got arrested. But like, I don't know, because she was so interesting. She had some interesting moments and like, there were times like where I. I could sort of enjoy Jen Shaw when she was sort of being more real and jokey or whatever. But ultimately she was like one of these people who wanted to be on TV and it showed it, but there was not that authenticity. And the group really has its own chemistry right now. That's really strong. And I think that Jen Shaw just is. It's. The show's moved on past her and I think Bravo's move have passed her. I don't think that she should be back.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. And I didn't like her on the show. I thought she was obnoxious and too much and just an. And a faker. So I was glad to see her get arrested for that because I would like to see people get arrested for just being bad housewives because I feel like it's a crime.

[B]

So get ready, Peggy. Both Peggies from Orange county.

[A]

Get ready. Most of the. The OC that they brought on over the years, Lydia, we could throw on that, that on that.

[B]

I have somebody soft spot for Lydia. I don't know what it is. I always feel like Lydia could have been better. She just always got stuck on a bad season. We could talk about Kelly Dodd and the voicemail she left for her daughter that was.

[A]

Oh my God. Did you watch that?

[B]

I watched it. Did you watch it?

[A]

The video? Of course I did. I played it at Thanksgiving canasta for the whole family. I was like, you guys got to hear this because listen, if you're going to keep me hold up for three days playing canasta, you're going to have to hear my Instagrams or my Tiktoks. And that was one of them. Who was the girl that was playing it? It wasn't even Jolie. Right?

[B]

That was Jolie.

[A]

Wasn't it one of her friends who got the voicemail and then she leaked the voicemail or was it actually Jolie, because I didn't recognize Jolie. That was.

[B]

Yeah, Jolie's. She's grown up. She's a young lady now.

[A]

Well, okay, so it was Kelly Dodd. And it was a voicemail. It was. It was very Alec Baldwin. You know, Alec Baldwin's voicemail to his kid when he' Little pig. Or whatever he called her. Quiet Piggy. Which was another thing that happened during our break. Anyway, sorry I got sidetracked there. I got into politics. I was like, wait a minute. But yeah, so it was very friend.

[B]

By the way, some people are saying.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't think it was Jolie. Yeah. So I guess Jolie had sent it to her friend, and her friend just sat there with her vape, like, smoking her vape and playing. Playing the phone. And so the voicemail was just very Kelly. It's like, you little twerp. You're. You're disgusting. You're disgusting. And you think you can say things about me. Well, you better watch it because I've got recordings of you and I can release those recordings of you. You spoiled, spoiled, terrible little girl. I'm surprised she didn't call her a little. That was my only shock was that she wasn't like, completely cursing her out. But it was pretty bad. But also very Kelly.

[B]

Like a right. I think she said, you. If you think you're gonna do that, if you think you're gonna take Michael's side after he treated you like garbage, you are dumb. As she said something like, you're a dumb. If you think that. Like, she really, like, that's what you call someone, some therapist child getting put to. Getting paid, college tuition paid for. Because that is like, that is. That was.

[A]

And you think, like, look at all I've paid for you. I've paid for your classes. I've paid for you to go to the doctor. I'. Wow. You paid for your own daughter to go to the doctor. Mother Teresa over there.

[B]

I know. Standard, fair. Standard, fair.

[A]

I like this comment by Jennifer. It says her friend was sent it by Kelly because Jolie blocked her. So Kelly was sending this voicemail to a friend to play for Jolie to tell her off because Jolie blocked her. That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

Yikes.

[B]

It's a sad situation. And also what's also really sad is that when we saw them on the show, they actually had such a lovely relationship, or that's what it seemed like. So it makes me actually really sad for both of them. And no, I feel. You don't feel Sad that. That that relationship fell apart.

[A]

No, not at all. There. It's. It's vile. I'm glad for Jolie for sticking up for herself. If you've got a mom who's talking to you like that, that's crazy.

[B]

I'm saying that they used to have a nice. Like, they. They had a nice relationship, and then now it's like this. I think that. That the fact that it went from that to this is sad. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying, like, oh, poor Kelly Dodd right now. I'm just saying that the fact that it has fallen apart like that is. Is really. It's too bad because we saw that girl growing up a little bit.

[A]

Yeah. Because I see comments here that say she reposted a blogger who called Jolie a. She mentioned that Jolie had a mental illness. Yeah. She said something like, you're a sick girl with mental illness or something.

[B]

Yeah, she said that. Yeah.

[A]

But Kelly's been going through with her whole family. I mean, she was going through it with her brother. Her brother's been on Instagram making all sorts of, you know, acc against her. She. And then she saw another video of her the other day saying, my brother is sick. He is cuckoo. He is loco in the head.

[B]

You believe him.

[A]

You believe him. Do not believe crazy people. So I don't know. That's just a mess. You know, it's just.

[B]

It's a huge.

[A]

That whole thing is a mess.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But let's do. Let's go on to something funnier, lighter and funnier. Actually, not funnier, but it's just at least lighter. Jenna Lyons leaving Roni. I guess we knew that was gonna happen. There's no. No shock there. She's, like.

[A]

The only person shocked was Jenna. I think. I think that Jenna. And I don't even think Jenna was so bad on it. I enjoyed Jenna. I think the rumor was, and up until now, that she was gonna be back as a friend, of which I thought would make perfect sense. We'd still get a little taste of her, you know, kind of commenting on everything. She wouldn't have to show her life. I'm really interested in her life cast. The woman she's dating is a photographer, and we've heard Jenna say on camera, yeah, she can't come on camera because she'll get canceled. Like, she knows she'll get canceled just because of the spewing out of her mouth. I want to see that. That's what I want to see.

[B]

I know. And so she. I Think she even says I was invited to be a friend of and I turned it down. I think she should have been. I think friend of would have been a good role for her. Like, I think we've seen some people who have been. Who've really flourished in the friend of role. I think Cynthia Bailey has done very nicely as a friend of. I actually like Vicki Gumbelson as a friend of. There are various others I can't remember but like, well, obviously like half the cast of Miami has been turned into a friend of and they're great in that role. So I think Jenna would have been good. And I've always said, like, I remember the show that she had stylish with Jenna Lyons that was on HBO Max back during the Jennifer Tilly during the pandemic. It was a great show that really highlighted her quirky personality. She was like, it was like the promise of Carol. Carol Radzwell came to fruition with Jenna Lyons. But I think as a full fledged housewife, it just was not, just didn't. It was, it wasn't, it wasn't a great, a great match. I think I really wanted it to happen to work. It just didn't. But, you know.

[A]

Yeah, but you know what? They're really trying. They're re redoing that show again. They're rebooting the reboot. They're do. They're only keeping three house are keeping Jessel, Sai and Aaron, which I mean, Jessel. Stop it. Jessel. Like, why are you keeping half the, half the terrible parts of it? You know, just if you're going to start over, just start over, for Christ's sake.

[B]

Well, I would keep Jessel 100%. I think Jessel was the best thing to come out of the reboot because she has that like delusion and she says dumb things and I think JEL was a great, a great find. Aaron, I just, I think actually Sai had a strong second season because I thought first season.

[A]

She did. She had a better second season. Yeah, she had, she had a better second season. She did.

[B]

I'm, I just am concerned about Aaron. I just don't, I don't know if Aaron is like, I don't know if she's entertaining enough. Like, I don't know. I, I, it's like she seems like a nice person. Maybe the babe was fun. I like the age of the babe in terms of when we met him.

[A]

She seemed nice. You know, look, I've, you know, I've talked to both Aaron and, and the hus. The h. Vent at length about stuff I said during their first season. And, you know, they were cool. They were nice. We had a good conversation. But I still watched. The second season was like. I mean, still, though, come on. I just need funnier people. I need funnier people. That's it. It's not even anything personal against her. I don't. You know, I don't know where that well as a person, but just, I need funnier, wackier people. I don't need some, like, boring. Like, I'm in real estate. I've come. My business is called home, girl. Get it? Do you get it? Do you?

[B]

Wait, Ronnie, don't say that to the person who introduced Mezcal to America. I think that. I think, you know, she's not really campy enough, and she's not deluded enough, and she's not, like, enough of, like, a villain. So she sort of falls in this weird space, and maybe with a proper ensemble, she can finally, like, flower. But, yeah, we'll see.

[A]

Yeah. No, for me. Well, some happy news. There is a new cast member in Portia Williams live. She has come out. She has basically come out as officially bisexual with her new romance girlfriend, Patrice Sway McKinney. So that was true. All those rumors were true about Portia and someone named Sway. And let me just say, I will put this up here now. I'll put the article from People magazine up here. You guys can see Sway. Cute.

[B]

Sway is cute.

[A]

Really cute. And they look very cute together.

[B]

I like Sway.

[A]

Yeah, I do, too. I only know her. I only know her from a picture, but she's pretty cute. Portia Williams hard launched her new relationship with girlfriend Patrice Sway McKinney on November 28. The relationship is the first the Real Housewives of Atlanta star has made public since her divorce from Simon. Simon Williams revealed in October that she was talking to two people, a man and a woman, and the woman won out. And that is Sway. Sway.

[B]

Well, yeah.

[A]

Sway is the founder of Encore Salon Suites in Atlanta. Ooh. And I like that she's competing with Kenya and her bustling business. Kenya, more hair care.

[B]

Can you. More hair care. Yeah, I do like that. You know, we talked a lot about jail, by the way, and we've overlooked a very important prison story that broke.

[A]

Have we?

[B]

Yeah, two days ago. And I'm surprised that I'm the one who has to bring it to the podcast because, you know, I don't like to have to bring this. You know, I don't like to increase the visibility about certain things. I don't like to shine lights on certain things, but this one comes from the world of McBee dynasty, and I'm bringing it here to crappy hour.

[A]

What don't I know about McBee dynasty?

[B]

Masha's going to jail.

[A]

What Masha? What Masha do? How did my Google alerts not go off? I have a Google alert for Masha and for Galena. What happened?

[B]

Well, Masha Petrova has been ordered to serve two days in jail for after pleading guilty to speeding.

[A]

Oh, come on. That's it?

[B]

But to be. I think her defense should. I mean, how does she not have this defense? I was racing to get home to save Ginger. My favorite chicken.

[A]

I know. I was gonna say, did they look in that trunk and see if Ginger's in there? Because I'll bet she was the one who kidnapped Ginger that whole time and tried to pin it on my sweet Galena, not Masha.

[B]

Oh, God. Also just bought new pan, and I'm afraid that Galena will destroy it. Don't put it in dishwasher. Don't beat it. Input dishwasher. I have to race home. I'm sorry. I have to go there as soon as possible.

[A]

By the way, I took a picture with my. The love of my life, Jesse McBee with Casey from Sesh Garbage World, and she did not give me the picture. I've asked her on Instagram. She is still not giving me the picture. So if anybody knows her, please message her and tell her that I'm dying for this picture. I asked her for Thanksgiving. I said, I need this for Thanksgiving to remind myself of what I'm thankful of. And I still have not received this effing picture, and I'm pissed. This is what?

[B]

What? Really? This is what happens when you put your eggs in a McBee basket? Disappointment. You find yourself walking up to them at Bravo Con and taking photos. You're so excited that you didn't even think to get it on your own phone. This is your own.

[A]

That was idiotic of me, but I trusted her. I was like, hey, this is. This is a way that I'm going to show trust in this friendship. I'm going to let Casey be in charge of it. And that was the biggest GD Mistake of my life. So someone please tell her I'm pissed and I need the picture immediately. We will.

[B]

We will arrange to get that photo to you.

[A]

I need it. I'm gonna frame it. I'm gonna give it to myself for Christmas. He was so cute in his baby blue cowboy suit and matching cowboy hat. What a Dream. And I said, jesse, I love your show. And he said, I don't know why people watch it. We're just such a mess. And I was like, that's why. Love you. That was our interaction. My.

[B]

My experience with the McBee is aside from the fact that when Galena came walking up to us randomly, like, as soon as we walked in that party, Galena walked up like a robot. And I was like, oh, my God, it's Galina.

[A]

But I just remember it wasn't random. She listens to the show. I love, but it's like, I want her in my life. I wanted to become best friends with her and be like, hey, hello. I wanted to be like, yes. Hey, girl, what's going on? What's happening with you today? But what do you mean you have to go. You do not want to leave me. You do not want to leave. And then Bueller goes missing. I'm out in the streets. Like, I'm sorry, Galena. I'm sorry, girl, please listen.

[B]

All I know is that, like, at one point, I turned around and, like, Cole McBee was, like, laughing, like, two feet from my face. And then just, like, imagine his little tiny mouth making that circle and the little teeth coming out of it. And he's like, well, not Cole.

[A]

I wasn't excited about Cole. I know. Like, he's like the sequel of wizard of Oz when all the trees were evil and tried to eat Dorothy.

[B]

Jeez, I didn't even know that even happened. I didn't know there was a sequel like that. Are you sure? Nothing about poltergeists that didn't have trees, did it? Poltergeist 2 had a tree. That or the original poltergeist had a tree. I think that was very threatening.

[A]

Oh, I don't remember that, but I do remember the trees trying to eat Dorothy. So, yeah, he's an evil tree. So let's see what else is happening in this world. Oh, Mario Mauricio Umansky. Oh, yeah. Mauricio did a sexy photo shoot in some leather pants. Oh, you know what? Actually, we're nearing the end of this, and we need to start talking to some people soon, so let's get caught up in it.

[B]

We got.

[A]

Yeah. What else happened? More important things. Let's go to more important things. So Mary. Mary Cosby's son, Robert Jr's wife files for divorce as he sits in jail following his latest arrest. Oh, my goodness.

[B]

Yeah. That whole situation is so sad. And I. I do think those two kids probably do need to have be, like, away from each other, so that way they can heal. I'm assuming there's some sort of codependency going on there, so I'm happy with this, personally.

[A]

Yeah. Her motion, her petition requires that both parties do not harass, intimidate, or disturb the peace of the other party by any means, including electronically. Let's see here. What else does it tell us? It prohibits violence or abuse against the other party or a child, use the other party's name, likeness, or image to get credit, open an account for service, or obtain a service, cancel or interfere with telephone, blah, blah, blah. They can also not terminate policies of health insurance, homeowners, or rental insurance. God, this is a lot of information in here. Jesus. He's charged with a violation of a pre trial protective order, criminal trial, trespassing, property damage and destruction, assault on a peace officer or military member in uniform, and failure to stop at the command of law enforcement. And he is still in jail. Yeah.

[B]

Makes me very sad. Very, very sad.

[A]

Robert was slow to recognize that his marriage was over. His attorney told people, just stop it. Slow. Sorry. What?

[B]

I. I thought you were done, so I. I was.

[A]

I was.

[B]

I put up an image of Cole McBee's mouth to be a palate cleanser.

[A]

Poor Cole. What did Cole do? Nothing. Cole didn't do anything but beat up a hill. And look how mean we are to him.

[B]

The more you look at it, the more fascinating it becomes.

[A]

Just let that boy be. Let that boy McBee. Okay.

[B]

Oh, poor Cole.

[A]

So what do you want to finish out with? We've got a lot of little stories here we could finish out with. This one's kind of fun. I'm not looking at it anymore. I took it.

[B]

No, I took it down. I took it down. I swear. It's safe.

[A]

Let's just hear your evil little laugh over there.

[B]

I'm just laughing at the concept of Cole McBee. It's a funny concept.

[A]

The concept in this one. How about we end with a good girl on lady fight? Paige Desorbo versus Patricia Alstool from 7 Charm.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

According to Decider, Paige Desorbo has been activated in a since deleted Instagram comment under a clip of Decider's recent interview with Patricia desorbo clapped back at the matriarch who criticized her for leaving Craig Conover despite his wishes to settle down and start a family. I made the comment that I thought she was mean to Craig, and I stand by that. That if a man says to you, I want to start a family and have children, you don't Say black and carry on like she did. Dun, dun, dun. And Paige responded in the comments, I'll just get married four times instead.

[B]

Shade the shade. I mean, I hate that these two. These two women are going at each other. I wish they could get along. But I also do feel very lucky that we got to be just mere 10ft away way from when this feed started, because it started on the watch what happens live where we were bartenders. Yeah, I mean, look, if I think Paige totally has the right to go black to Craig when he said that stuff, because it's not like the first time he said it. He said it so many times that now Paige has to say increasingly, like, sort of rude things to get it through his skull that she's not interested in that. Like, I'm sure in the beginning when he said, like, like, it'd be, like, really cool if we had, like, a family and kids would be really cool. And she's like, oh, that's like, really nice. Like, I'm not sure if I'm, like, necessarily, like, looking for that, but, like, it's something we could definitely talk about. And then by now, like, he's like, so you definitely want to have a family? No. You want to have a family? No. You want to have a family?

[A]

No, Craig.

[B]

No, I don't want it. Disgusting. Stop it. Never say it again.

[A]

Please stop saying family. Family. Damn it, Greg. So that brings us to the end of the talky talk portion of this episode. We will stay here on YouTube and talk to you guys. Whoever wants to come up here, come. I just posted a link in the comments, so come join us. And for everybody else, we will talk to you in a couple of weeks. Thanks for being here. We love you guys.

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