#3103 Real Housewives of Beverly Hills S15E01 Part 1: Here We Zoe Again

Summary

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Watch What Crappens - Episode #3103

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills S15E01 Part 1: Here We Zoe Again
Air Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

Overview

Ben and Ronnie kick off their recap of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 premiere, unpacking the new cast dynamic, Sutton's vulnerability, and the much-anticipated debut of Rachel Zoe. With their trademark blend of loving mockery and Bravo obsession, they call out the low-key vibe of the episode, revisit internet drama, and share behind-the-scenes tidbits—including Ben’s real-life run-in with Rachel Zoe.

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Episode Highlights & Key Discussion Points

1. Opening Energy & Housewives Core Drama

• Host banter about Ben's birthday sets a playful tone (02:25), immediately launching into the season's controversies—particularly the fan-favorite Garcelle’s absence and how the “core group” seems to push out loved cast members.
• Memorable Quote (Ben, 03:16):

  "You do not get to cast Garcelle as someone who is building alliances for a reality show. That's what you guys do. You only suspect that because that's how you operate."

2. Why Is RHOBH Still the Ratings Queen?

• Ronnie ponders (12:35):

  "Why is this one the highest rated?... I think it's the money, really. At the end of the day, I think it's that everyone on here is like, rich, rich."

• Ben’s mini-soapbox on reality TV not getting its due from "prestige" media like NYT (14:20):

  "Reality TV is 25 years old. You cannot keep acting like it's a fad, some trashy fad…It's here. It's a genre..."

3. Ben Meets Rachel Zoe IRL (Behind-the-Scenes Story)

• Segment: 05:44 – 09:44
• Ben recounts how he and Courtney (from Two Judgy Girls) approached Rachel Zoe at a Spotify event, using a “gay icon” opener to break the ice. Rachel was gracious, albeit initially assuming they worked for Bravo.
• Memorable Moment (Ben, 07:05):

  "So I walk right up to her, go, 'Oh, my God. Rachel Zoe, gay icon.' I literally said that to her."

• The interaction ends on a polite note with Zoe excusing herself with a classic “my friends are here” move.

4. Premiere Aesthetic & Musical Choices

• Both hosts critique the new theme song and the show’s attempt to recapture old Bravo glamour, with Ronnie missing the classic “Trixie Monacle” vibe (09:58).
• The tempo shift, from high-octane to slow, filtered scenes, is jarring given other Bravo franchises’ current intensity (11:32).

5. Dorit’s Tabloid Drama and Friendship with Bose

• Segment: 17:22 – 21:58
• Recount of tabloid photos of PK allegedly making out with another woman. Dorit and Bose’s friendship dramatized—with Ronnie noting internet sleuths who doubted Dorit’s “shopping” scenes and poked at her props’ authenticity.
• Banter about voice notes (19:56):

  "Why is every voice note like a letter from a war? ...No one needs 17 minutes of Dorit." (Ronnie)

6. Kyle’s Family Dynamics – Wedding Planning & Midlife Crisis

• Segment: 27:25 – 33:41
• Kyle makes tortillas while teen daughter Sophia disrupts with odd “egg salad sandwich” requests—painting Gen Z house-life contrast.
• Kyle’s emotional investment in Alexia’s engagement and the overshadowing of her daughter’s moment with her own wedding nostalgia gets gentle ribbing (31:47).
• Mauricio’s “midlife crisis” antics (making out in public, clubbing) mocked as exhausting and “so cringey” (32:41).
• Favorite Quote (Ben, 32:18):

  "You thought a valet was private? Really?"

7. Rachel Zoe’s On-Screen Debut & Friendship with Kathy Hilton

• Segment: 34:00 – 41:43
• Rachel’s home described as “white, white, white”—more generic than expected for a style icon.
• The women lean in to Rachel’s signature lingo: "I die," "dead," and "bananas."
• Memorable Moment (Rachel via Ben/Impression, 35:35):

  "I'll literally put on full cat eye makeup to go to sleep because I'm unapologetically myself. This is me."

• Rachel shares her career journey in rapid-fire, self-mocking fashion (38:02).
• Banter about Rachel’s ex, Roger, her relentless branding, and her children’s complex names.

8. Sutton in the Crosshairs

• Segment: 45:16 – 51:34
• Sutton leans on her mother Reba for support now that her son’s gone to college and her only real ally is out. Even her assistant, Avi, is gone.
• The hosts joke about Sutton’s inability to keep staff, and highlight the blood-in-the-water housewife dynamics.
• Quote (Ronnie, 46:04):

  "Wow, you’re opening the season—no allies left. You had to bring Reba to shoot with. Girl, you in danger."

9. Housewife Social Dynamics and Loneliness

• Kyle and Erica pepper Sutton with questions about losing Garcelle as a friend, the exit of Avi, and what it feels like to be on the outs (51:48).
• Introduction of Kathy Hilton to the lunch scene, with Reba being the first to openly critique Kathy’s famed air kisses (52:36).
• The group toasts new beginnings, as the segment closes with Sutton describing the Catholic annulment of her marriage, complete with dry jokes about “bastard children” (54:18).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Moment | |---------------|-------------|------------------| | 03:16 | Ben | "You do not get to cast Garcelle as someone who is building alliances..." | | 05:44–09:44 | Ben | Ben’s Rachel Zoe encounter at Spotify party. | | 12:35 | Ronnie | "I think it's the money, really... everyone on here is like, rich, rich." | | 14:20 | Ben | "Reality TV is 25 years old. You cannot keep acting like it's a fad..." | | 19:56 | Ronnie | "Why is every voice note like a letter from a war?... No one needs 17 minutes of Dorit." | | 31:47 | Ronnie | "This is so Kyle. To be like, oh my God, happy wedding day—here’s pictures your dad at our wedding day." | | 35:35 | Ben/Rachel | "I'll literally put on full cat eye makeup to go to sleep because I'm unapologetically myself." | | 46:04 | Ronnie | "You had to bring Reba to shoot with. Girl, you in danger." | | 54:18 | Reba (via Ben/Impression) | "Does that mean the children are bastards now?" |

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Important Timestamps

• Meet Rachel Zoe (Ben’s real-life story): 05:44–09:44
• Premiere critique & production value talk: 09:58–12:35
• Voice note tangent & Dorit friendship segment: 19:56–21:58
• Kyle’s family/wedding discussion: 27:25–33:41
• Rachel Zoe’s house & banter w/ Kathy: 34:00–41:43
• Sutton gets cornered (assistant & Garcelle): 45:16–51:34
• Kathy + Reba + Catholic annulment talk: 52:36–54:59

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Tone and Language

The hosts maintain their signature irreverent, affectionate shade, seamlessly weaving insightful observations with running gags. Their voices shift between gossip, parody, and genuine Housewives fan analysis, full of inside jokes and rapid-fire impressions.

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Summary Takeaways

• The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills returns with a more subdued energy than other current Bravo staples, prompting reflection on what still makes it Bravo’s biggest hit.
• Rachel Zoe fits right in with the ensemble, both on and off the screen; her signature “dead”/“bananas” schtick carried over from Ben’s real-life encounter to the actual show.
• The dynamic has shifted: with Garcelle gone, Sutton is isolated and vulnerable ("blood in the water"), which the hosts anticipate will make for “a great season of Sutton falling apart.”
• There’s skepticism about Dorit’s storyline and props; comedic contemplation of Housewives’ privilege, their relationships with assistants, and their unique parenting moments.
• Kyle’s family life and Mauricio’s "midlife crisis" antics become fodder for banter and generational joking.
• Memorable banter abounds, from the trivial (“egg salad on taco night?!”) to the deeply petty (arguments about Instagram unfollowing).
• The hour closes with a deliciously awkward group lunch, where old grudges, fake air-kisses, and the Catholic Church's annulment process are all up for grabs.

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Stay tuned for Part 2, where the drama and the recapping continue!

Transcript

[Ben]

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[Ben]

Is when there's so much.

There's so much that happens.

[Ronnie]

Well hello there. How's everybody doing? Welcome to Watch what crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello Ben.

[Ben]

Hello Ronnie. How are you doing?

[Ronnie]

Good. Happy birthday. Still, it's still your birthday as we record this. This won't be Released until Friday, but it is still Thursday in our world and Ben's birthday, everybody. So party, baby.

[Ben]

Guys, this is my birthday year, so you kind of have to celebrate it every week. Every day. Every week.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, every day. Every single day. And I've got good news for you, Ben. Garcelle did not unfollow you happy birthday. Because she never followed you in the first place. Never followed you in the first place for us. So don't worry about it. But you know what? At least we didn't get screwed over, and now we don't have to spend the whole season going, why did Garcelle unfollow us? How confusing. What is confusing about this? Ladies, you were to Garcelle. She didn't like you. Her only friend jumped over the fence to be the second she got a chance to be friends with the popular girls, and she dipped out. What the. Don't you understand?

[Ben]

And Dorit for trying to make Garcelle look like she was, like, an opportunist. No, like, you do not get to cast Garcelle as someone who is building alliances for, you know, to go to battle on a reality show. That's what you guys do. You only suspect that because that's how you operate.

[Ronnie]

Ma'.

[Ben]

Am.

[Ronnie]

How dare you? You back away from.

[Ben]

From.

[Ronnie]

Back away from Garcelle. Oh, my gosh. Should I have called this episode black girl missing?

[Ben]

We already did.

[Ronnie]

That was a missed opportunity.

[Ben]

We did. Yeah, we've done that.

[Ronnie]

We did. Oh, darn it. Okay. Well, everybody, welcome to real housewives of Beverly hills day. Kind of a boring episode, and we're already fired up. Can you see? It's going to be how the season is going to go. I don't care how little happens. I will always get infuriated.

[Ben]

So I was watching let's get going, and I was like, think. I was already like, oh, my God, Ronnie's gonna get mad at this part. Oh, my God. Ronnie's gonna get mad at this part. Oh, my God. Ronnie's gonna get mad at this part.

[Ronnie]

Really? I wasn't really mad. I didn't get mad at anything except the Garcelle stuff towards the end. I don't know why I feel so protective over Garcelle. I just think that they're all love Garcelle.

[Ben]

We all love Garcelle. They are. They were. Well, because it's just another victim of this core group of women who just keep running fan favorites off of the show. And then we're stuck season after season of Kyle, Dorit, and Erica nattering Away about, like, stuff that's just not that interesting. Although I have to say, I actually liked Kyle this episode. I mean, this is the way every season begins. I enjoy. I have no issues with Kyle so far. I'm actually. I'm gonna put a pin in that because maybe by the end of this recap, I will have remembered there was something that bothered me. But, like, I was like, I'll brainwash.

[Ronnie]

You by the end.

[Ben]

Yeah, I was like, I was okay with Kyle this episode. Erica was just Erica. Dorit. Dorit's Dorit. I don't know. It was like. Honestly, I thought the premiere was pretty lifeless. I'm not gonna lie.

[Ronnie]

You know, it was kind of lifeless, but it was the first episode, and I don't know.

[Ben]

I.

[Ronnie]

It's kind of a comfort show for me. I. And I'm talking about how much I get enraged, but, you know, I do love rage. I feel comforted by rage. I didn't really feel enraged. I did feel some comfort watching it because it's like, oh, they're back. And it feels like no time is passed because they're still fighting over the same. And I don't know. I like Kyle's new face. Every year, Kyle has a new face, and I like this update. I think it's very good. I think it was a good sing. Reba back. I don't know. I just. I liked it. Rachel Zo fits right in.

[Ben]

So, you know, on that note. On that note, I had the privilege last night of meeting Rachel Zo. That was.

[Ronnie]

Oh, that's who it was.

[Ben]

I met Rachel Zoe. So Courtney from two Judgy Girls and I, we went to the Spotify Unwrapped party, which is super fun. And it was largely podcasters, tik tockers, things like that. And then things.

[Ronnie]

And.

[Ben]

Which was cool. We saw some colleagues that we knew were friends with. Etc. It was nice to see them. And then there's Rachel Zo. And I wasn't going to say, I don't. I don't.

[Ronnie]

What.

[Ben]

I didn't really have anything to say to Rachel Zo. But then we were like this. Listen, this is. We both were like, we. We should say something. We have to say something to Rachel Zo.

[Ronnie]

Report.

[Ben]

She's Bravo royalty. Ultimately, whether we like it or not, I don't have any issues with it. But, like, she's Rachel Zoe. Bravo is built partially on her back. So I was like, okay, how do you talk to Rachel Zoe? How do you go up to Rachel Zoe? Because it's not. I don't know. Like, I know how to go up to someone like Tamra. I know how to go up to someone like Whitney Rose. But Rachel Zoe's a little different. So I was like, you know what? I have a tried and true tactic at a. At a Hollywood party when you want to go up to a successful female, famous female, I get as gay as possible. So I walk right up to her, go, oh, my God. Rachel Zoe, gay icon. I literally said that to her.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God, Ben. Yeah, I was gonna say, you should have just gone, oh, my God, it's Rachel Zoe. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You literally did.

[Ben]

Because it always. It's very disarming. And she just smiled, and she's like, oh, my God. Hi. And I'm like, oh, my God. We, you know, we just. We just watched the screener because. Because Courtney had just watched it too. Like, we just watched it, and Courtney's like, you were so good. You were so vulnerable. She's like, yeah, I was, like, really vulnerable. Like, yeah, you were. You did such a great job. And at that point, I normaled out. She was actually very nice. She was very nice. Admittedly, for the first three quarters of the conversation, she thought we worked at Bravo. So I don't know if she was being nice to us because she thought we were, like, brass, but we're like, yeah, you did a great job. She's like, yeah, the season was, like, really good. It was really fun. I haven't really watched much of it. We're like, yeah, well, she's like, you know, my old choice to be able to watch everything, but I don't watch much of it. Like, cool. And then we said, we're podcasters, and she's like, oh, cool. And then we had, like, a little bit more. Like, a little bit more conversation, and this music was playing, and she points. She goes, wait a second. Like, what? She was like, these are my friends. Like, what?

These are my friends.

[Ronnie]

Like, what musicians?

[Ben]

She's like, it's crazy because, like, my friends are over there, but this music is my friends. It's crazy. They're over there, but this music's my friends.

[Ronnie]

Like, oh.

[Ben]

So we go, okay, well, it was great meeting you. We like it. Sort of like, we felt like. I personally felt like it was her way of saying, I don't know what else to say to these people. They're very nice, but, like, I don't know what else to say to these. These two podcasters. So I'm just gonna kind of like. So we. We were like, okay. And we were like. We realized she. She wants us to go. It's time. We've used up her space. And then she went over.

[Ronnie]

I would have said, you know what? I have all these Rachel Zoe pillows in my living room, but I've also got a Jill Zarin rug. Do you think that's a conflict of interest? How do you feel about Jill Zarin? I need to tell my pillows what to think about the rug. Should I replace the rug? I replaced the rug. I already replaced it. I got it with something from rugs.com. it's really cute, by the way.

[Ben]

I want.

[Ronnie]

You're so vulnerable.

[Ben]

You're so vulnerable. I wanted to be like, what was it like filming this compared to, like, what it was 20 years ago? I said, you know, Bravo's changed so much the whole community. I was like, oh. I said. I. I said, yeah.

[Ronnie]

And.

[Ben]

And Bravo con. That was wild. She goes, bravon was wild. That was, like, wild.

[Ronnie]

That was wild. That was bad nanas.

[Ben]

It was wild. It was wild. But anyway, she was so nice. This. She was. She was very. She was very gracious to us. You know, she's just trying to enjoy a party, and we're sitting there being ridiculous. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, love it.

[Ben]

You know, I was.

[Ronnie]

Love it. That's what you should.

[Ben]

I was like, I just need to have an interaction that I can report back with. And it was a very lovely Rachel Zo interaction. So that is my story, everyone.

[Ronnie]

Oh, she took something from her purse or something. I think it was good. You did good.

[Ben]

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. It was. I went. I went into the wild. I went into the wild, and I did something heroic. You're welcome, everyone. So it was.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so here we go. Episode 1501, Hot Girl Summer. Now, here's the problem I have right up top. Where is Trixie Monacle? Where is she? Who? This new lady they have on there. I don't like her. They've also got a whole violin section, which I do like because I do like them bringing back kind of the old flavor of the music.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

But we had this weird opening song that was like, all in echo and everything was slow mo. And everyone's, like, very glittery, you know, kind of a typical thing. But it's like, welcome back to Beverly Hills moment. And the song was like, you spin me right round. Cause call me when your time runs out. Because I know, I know, I know. Well, let's bone.

[Ben]

It was like Trixie Carpenter. They were like, let's do Trixie, but let's make her more like Sabrina Carpenter. Okay, so she's like. Except, I mean, this is no shade to Sabrina Carpenter. It's just like the Bravo version is just, you know, far, far inferior.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Sabrina Carpenter's got enough on her plate this week. Just leave that girl alone.

[Ben]

Oh.

[Ronnie]

Don't need anything from us, that's for sure. Yeah, she's finding the main Cheeto in chief over there.

[Ben]

So we support Sabrina Carpenter, but, yeah, they did neuter our Trixie. Like, we want, you know, declarations of girl boss. Being a boss.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Acting like I want, like, car. I've got a car. Cause I'm a girl with the car. A girl with the car. And then you see the cars passing because we still got all the same footage where they just showed the douchiest cars available on the market driving past and glittering. You know, they put that glitter over.

[Ben]

It where it's like the worsts.

[Ronnie]

And then douchebag. It's like a Lotus and a. You know, the worst.

[Ben]

Yeah. Well, I think what was. So what was so tricky for me with this premiere is that the shows on Bravo have been so high key lately. You know, with Salt Lake City, the return of Vanderpump rules. We just had this Potomac is. Is. Everything's just being extra. We just had an extra Miami season. We had extra OC Season. Everything has been, like, kind of up here. I mean, Southern charm is Southern charm, but everything is really hitting at a. At an intensity level. And then we just sort of, like, saunter into Beverly Hills, and this show is just like. It's got Barbara Walters filters. Everything is slow. We're watching slow mount. I felt like someone hit the brakes on Bravo, and I was like. And I was like, okay, we have to go to Beverly Hills tempo. And it really. It's. It's hard having this show on at the same time as Salt Lake City. It just. It really is because they're just. We're in Salt Lake City mindset, and it's really hard to pivot into Beverly Hills.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's like you're watching one of the best comedies on tv. And Potomac's been really good, too, this year. I was gonna say that. And that's been on. You know, that's on right now as well. And so you've got both of those really firing on all cylinders. And then you've got this one, which. Yeah, I was low key. I was thinking while I was watching it, why is this one the highest rated? Why? I mean, I like it. I've always loved this show. I mean, I, this was the first show I ever recapped as a, as a blogger and well, the first housewife show. And so I love it just for that. Like, I have a personal history with it. I've always loved it. I've recapped every episode of this show. So I love it. But I'm like, why does everybody, why is this the highest one? I think it's the money, really. At the end of the day, I think it's that everyone on here is like, rich, rich. And that's something, you know, there's something to be said for that. Like, you see all their homes and all their cars and they are all. Even Erica. It's like, even Erica is like the poorest one and she's still in red heels and you know, living off that friend of. I mean, I don't know where she's getting money. Yeah, I don't know. But, but.

Minus Erica, everyone else is.

[Ben]

Like, whoa, it's luxury. Well, I'm also. This show is, you know, it's been around for a long time and you know, it's very hard to bring people onto new shows because everyone's watching something else. Like, God forbid you stop watching Severance for five seconds and watch a Real Housewives show. And by the way, you know what? New York Times, you really need to get it together. New York Times once again did their list of best TV shows of the year. And they go out of the way to include every single type of show, except there's not a single reality show. They include like a show that's like on Disney Kids. They're like, this cartoon is actually very witty, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, and once again, they even put in a section that says flawed but like noteworthy. And they put the bear in. It's like, so you're go out of.

[Ronnie]

Your way for a bear. Everyone agrees that the bear flopped this year. I mean, even the lovers of the bear agree.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's like you'll go out of the way to recognize shows are they're really flawed, but they are like prestige. Whereas, like, there's excellent reality TV that is crafted beautifully, crafted, intelligently. You know, there is, there is art in reality tv. People have to think about how to make a storyline. People have to know what questions producers have to craft a narrative out of watching Erica wash, you know, wash a car, you know, and they do it and they do it very well and they make us all laugh. Like, this is high grade comedy. And the New York Times still will not recognize it. I'm sorry. Reality TV is 25 years old. You cannot keep acting like it's a fad, some trashy fad that just came around. It's here. It's a genre, and it needs to be respected. And that is today's soapbox. Until the next one.

[Ronnie]

Yes. Yes.

So make that a question.

[Ben]

Put it on YouTube.

[Ronnie]

Now, this episode might not be the best one to be making.

[Ben]

This is a terrible example for it.

[Ronnie]

Let's just pretend we made this on the Salt Lake City recap.

[Ben]

Yeah, Just cut this out and put.

[Ronnie]

It at the start of our next Salt Lake City.

[Ben]

Literally. Anything else that's on Bravo right now other than the show.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. But I did still enjoy, you know, I did still enjoy having it back. And there are shifting dynamics, you know, now that Garcelle's gone and Sutton's left all alone. It's very interesting watching people because they smell blood in the water with Sutton, and they are going to come for her ass. And, you know, I enjoy Sutton as a housewife, but, you know, I enjoy Sutton the most when she's backed into a corner and acting like a crazy person.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

So it's on time. Time's a running. Times are ticking. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great watching her crumble. She'll be a full disaster. She's like. You know when you're playing a video game and there's, like, a boss, and the boss sends out, like, little minions, and you have to, like, kill the minions before you get to the boss? This is in from the perspective of the fox force 5. The minions have now been destroyed, and now it's just Sutton Sudden. They're ready to go in for Sutton, and, well, I guess she does have Jennifer Chile, but, yeah, Sutton's blood in the water for sure.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So we start with sitting on a horse, and then it's slow mo go slow, or horse go slower horse. And then we see Erica and this insane scene washing her car at home in short shorts and stiletto heels with shoelaces on them, very sexily. And I laughed. I laughed out loud. So, you know, we can't say this show doesn't have humor, because that was funny.

[Ben]

It was so silly. And then we see Dorit coming out of, like, a. Coming out of, like, a luxury store in Beverly Hills, like, I've.

[Ronnie]

I've made.

[Ben]

And she's got shopping bags, and she's just, you know, pausing on the sidewalk as if she's been actually cloistered away in that super in that supermarket and that gross grocery store in that, in that store for like 10 years, like she was kept underground.

[Ronnie]

And these look like the pictures that were released by the tabloids last year of Dorit shopping. And people were taking, circling the pictures and posting them all over the Internet and saying Dorit is pretending that she was shopping in these stores. But you can tell these bags are used because they're crumpled. And you know, it was like a big to do on the Internet. And this is the same shot because this looks, yeah, this looks like those pictures. So she's carrying all those bags and she's going over to. Well, we'll find out later. First we go over to Bose's house and she's, you know, just doing what Bose does. She's in her house with photographers everywhere, just going, yes, Bo, she look amazing. Oh, bows, give us your best angle.

Just.

[Ben]

Now get me from the left. Now get me from the right. Now get me from whatever angle you would normally get a CMO from. That's right.

[Ronnie]

And right when everybody's like, oh my God, is this my comfort show or not, Here she is, it's Kyle Richards in a terrible outfit driving and asking Alexia to call her daughter.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Or Siri to call her Alexia. Sorry.

[Ben]

Asking Alexia for her. That her daughter basically was turned into a digital assistant. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So now even her daughter will never be Apple.

[Ben]

Yeah, never. So now we see Gavashi, we see cars. And now Bose is at home with her kid Lyle and they're making charcuterie. And she's like, there's gold flakes on this pastry platter. And that's all that matters because I have marketed this pastry to be high end. So Dorit arrives to have a little, a little visit with Bose and she's.

[Ronnie]

Brought the shopping bags. That's where Dorit was going. And Rose tells her, you're a vision. And she's like a vision. The times I've come here and not giving you a birthday gift. And finally here I am with a gift for you, for your birthday girl.

[Ben]

Not from Hermes. Oh, is this a blanket? And then I can feel your warmth with it.

[Ronnie]

A two thousand dollar blanket from Hermes. You know, that just came from PK's man cave or whatever. She rewrapped it. And Dorit tells us, over the course of the year we've gotten very, very close. I call her when something good happens, when something bad happens, when it turns today, when it turns to night, when I've got M and M's, when I've got carrots, I Call paws. She's my best friend. She's. She's laying the song a little thick.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, she calls and leaves voice notes. Very long, 17 minute voice notes about carrots and M&Ms. And daytime and nighttime. Can I just listen to this on two speed?

[Ronnie]

I love that. Dirty does that. Sweetie, it's me treat. It's been such a rough day. It's like, oh, my God. Why is every voice note like a letter from a war? Okay, I know. No one needs 17 minutes of Dorit.

[Ben]

I left a voice note this morning for someone, and I felt so guilty because I generally do not love receiving them because they tend to be rambling. And I left a voice note, and guess what? It was rambling as fuck. I was like, sorry. Oh, there's a leaf. There's a leaf blower. Oh, there's a. There's a bird. Because, like, whenever people leave voice notes, they feel compelled to narrate every single thing around them, me included. And I just was so embarrassed that I did that. But, you know. Yeah, it happens.

[Ronnie]

Well, it does. It happens. You know, you complain about it, but then you're like, I can leave a voice note. Why is everybody else able to leave a voice note? I'm gonna leave a voice note. And then mine are 10 hours long, and by the end, I'm like, singing. Singing things in Patti LuPone voice. It's like, no one needs this. You. I was just gonna ask them to dinner.

[Ben]

You ever notice that people always eat. You always hear people, like, eating a potato chip on a voice note. Like, why are you doing that?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, because people talk to voice notes like they're their assistant. Right? So I was like, oh, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, I wanted to call you. Just wanted to make sure you got the time for this thing that we're doing on Tuesday. Oh, my God, that car's on my way. Tell that car to get out of my way. I need that car out of my way.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Anyway, haven't paid my electric bill yet. We really need to get that done. Really need to get that done. So just go ahead and pencil that in. Pencil that in for Thursday. It's like, I don't work for calling me like this. Just text me, please. So Bose is like, wow, this is something sweet. Because life sometimes hasn't been so sweet. Isn't that right, Dorit? And she's like, no, it's okay. It's okay. Really. My life has been fine. Like, no, it's not okay, because I see things online and it's not okay to Read. It's not okay. It is not okay.

[Ben]

And we see that photo that we all saw of PK making out with a woman at the valet stand. The only place for middle aged men in a midlife crisis to make out with someone so truly. Like, all these guys. All these guys with their new newly pierced ears listening to like, John Summit and EDM are like, now, like, hey, so there's a valet. So why don't we go over there, make out in front of the valet so that's someone can see us. Yeah, let's do that right now. So you see that picture of that poor deluded lady making out with pk?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. That poor, future, disappointed lady. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

And so Bose is like, kissing a woman on the streets in la. Not okay. Not okay. When I saw pictures of him kissing that Sheen version of Dorit, first I rolled my eyes and then I. I drop a little.

[Ben]

Let's like, not also like, let's sure Sheen Dorit, but let's not act like, you know, PK is the Hermes version of anything. He's like the Sheen. He's like the Sheen Snuggles Bear. Right? So Dorit is like, yes. When I saw that on the street, I felt like, gee, that's it. That is it. That. Well, furthermore, that is it. That's it. And I'd like to fill that.

[Ronnie]

That's it.

[Ben]

That man on the street, I don't know him. I thought, gee, that's not the man that I know who has got diabetes. 1, 2, 3, and 6. No. Who is that? That's a stranger. And the next day you filed. Let me just move your story along because you're not quite getting to it. That's right. It was that day I filed. That day I filed my nails and I said, guess what? Now that my nails are filed, I'm going to email my lawyer. And no, no. When I said filed, I was moving. I was advancing your storyline just a little bit faster. You know, just getting it right there. Okay. You filed for divorce. And, Ronnie, you are not on the stage. So whatever you were saying here on the podcast is not being heard by anyone, including me. So I will bring you here onto the stage to talk. There you are, Ronnie.

[Ronnie]

I don't know what happened to me, but I did. The day after, we had to go to a baseball game that Chica had. Chica had a baseball game. And honestly, I felt so disgusted with him. Look at the picture. And then they put a Picture up, and she's sitting on bench, looking all sad, watching a baseball game. And then he's all the way up on the top bench, all the way to the right of her, all past watching a baseball game. Why are they the only parents there? Why? They were the only people in this picture? What are you guys even there at the right time? Where's Jagger? I don't even think this was Jagger's baseball game. I think these two weirdos just ended up in a park, ignoring each other.

[Ben]

So poetic, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So the kids. Does he see the kids? Well, he travels a lot, and so when he sees them, he'll be on a Saturday night. As far as the kids go, you know, I only speak the best about their father. Only I say no. He only eats the Pringles because he loves them. He wants to support the company, and that's why he eats so many of them. He just wants to keep people in business. In this economy, only the best things.

[Ronnie]

About pk Your father suffers from Levobetes. That's why he's always gone. I tell them it's a disease. He can't help it. Absentitis. Was he the master of his own disaster? You rhymed, girl. You rhymed. That's right, I did. Because I'm a rhymer now. And when I file, do you think I'm going to check that box that says joint custody? No.

[Ben]

No.

[Ronnie]

He doesn't even have working joints. Why would he get joint custody? He can't even take care of the ones he has publicly.

[Ben]

He wants to save face. PK does not have the lifestyle. He can have the kids. 50% of the time he's off busy doing things like putting on Pantones in Britain or unlocking Boy George from radiators. So he doesn't have time for children.

[Ronnie]

Well, I don't know, but if. You know, when I filed, it was big news. Huge, Huge. All over the world's Internet. And guess what? Kyle texted me. She texted me four days after. Four days after.

[Ben]

I would like to give this season's first by saying, what? What a wasted opportunity to not say, hey, I'm with you. How could she not use this as a great, great opportunity to say, I am your friend? Reet.

[Ronnie]

When Kyle and I saw each other at the evening, I was really hopeful that her and I had finally turned a caner. But new. New.

And then we see the clip of Kyle being like, well, you know, I know things that weren't really great this year, but I was hoping that now we can be friends again. Now that it's all over or whatever. And Drew, it's like. And I trusted it, but I'm not gonna trust what comes out of her mouth. I'm gonna trust her actions.

[Ben]

She had every opportunity to show me that we were back and she was there. And has she shown me that? Gee, no. Absolutely not.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna say this in at least six languages. New.

[Ben]

New.

[Ronnie]

New.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So meanwhile, we go over to Kyle's house, and she's cooking at home. And she's like, really? Her daughters. So she's making flour and corn tortillas, guys. Yeah. And Sophia comes in and she's like, attitudy. Now, I didn't even. I don't even know which one Sophia is, but now I do because of this scene.

[Ben]

Yeah, well. Well, what I did not appreciate from Sophia is that Kyle's like, hey, guys, I'm going to make. I'm going to make. I'm using, like, flour and cor. And corn tortillas for me. What do you guys want? And Sophia's like, can you make us an egg salad sandwich, Sophia? What part? Part about the tortillas says that your mom's also making egg salad sandwiches. No. Make a request that pertains to tortillas. Or don't make a request at all. Or make it yourself. It's also egg salad. Like, make your own egg salad.

[Ronnie]

You're.

[Ben]

You're 23 now, or however old you are. Let Kyle make her tortillas sampler.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but that's why I know who Sophia is now, because she's like, you know what? Nobody knows who I am on this show. That I'm coming into my first scene of season 15, and I'm demanding egg salad on taco night. That's it. You guys can just deal with it. I'm a grown woman now.

[Ben]

She's a real disruptor.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Gen Z. Gen Z exotics, like, so in with Gen Z now. Eggs out on tortillas.

[Ronnie]

That's huge. Manny's staff, big. So Kyle's like, yeah. Sophia and Portia obviously live at home. And so Sophia's like, do you guys want matchas? If I order, there's another thing. Let's up taco night. What do you think?

[Ben]

So she's having matcha and egg salad on taco night.

So Kyle's like, by the way, it's, like, really annoying that the gate rings all the time with all these orders. Kyle's very anti door dash. I'm like, what happened to last season when Kyle was so happy when anyone Rang the doorbell. And she's like. They're trying to move a chair through the French door. She's like, I wish someone would come to me. Someone would come over. And she gets so happy when door dash or Postmates arrives with, like, a Starbucks.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And Sophia's like, really? Baby, I'm sorry. Get over it. There's a new Sophia in town.

[Ben]

Hey, mom, guess what? I know you just made me that. That egg salad sandwich, but I hate it. So I ordered one from Fat Sals. Sorry.

[Ronnie]

So Alexia, who's the other one, is like, mom, I've got lots of exciting things for you to see. I can't wait till you see them. Because this is the daughter who's getting married. So here, every time she comes over, she's gonna whip out that Pinterest board that she's got going. And this is her doing that. You know, we've all. Well, I guess we haven't all. But a lot of us have had that sister who's gotten married. Or a lot of us have been that sister who's gotten married. I've had the sister who's getting married. Can I just tell you, that was a year of looking at books. Look at the idea I had for this. Look at the idea I had for this. Did you know that rice throwing rice kills birds. Because it expands in their stomach and then they die? Give me my year back. Not even with that man anymore. You divorced him. Why did I have to sit through that whole year? Give me my year back.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. So Kyle's like, Alexia's engaged. And, like, I met Jake when he was in third grade with Alexia. And they were just like, we're ultimately best friends. And, like, as a mom, that's all you want in life. Is to be best friends with your daughter's best friend. So I'm kind of, like, getting married also, if you think about it. I mean, it's his. I just want someone to love my child like that. It's like a dream come true. I'm so happy.

[Ronnie]

Oh, man. Married his best friend. You know, every mother wants her daughter to divorce her best friend because.

[Ben]

So beautiful.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, she's engaged. And Kyle talks about Farah. And I like that. She's like, yeah, Farrah was engaged, but that didn't really go through. So Alexi is the first to get married. And I want her to have everything she wants. I just want it to be the most magical day. However, it's hard to find trained butterflies, which is what she wants. Because Alexi's like, Yeah. I want trained butterflies, Mom. Just, like, now.

[Ben]

I want to have, like. I want to have, like, butterflies. I'm gonna have tarot decks. And I also want to have, like, I don't know, like, a Stevie Nicks vibe. But I also want to have, like, magic handles and dream catchers. But, like, also, like, rope. Rope. Other shapes, like, a lot of macrame. And it's like, huh. Huh. Okay, great. All right, so I know we're talking about your wedding, but, like, how about we just, like, overshadow it with my wedding? Because here's my wedding album. Okay, everyone, look. Look at what things were like when I. When I believe that our wedding would. Our marriage would work out. Okay? Look at these photos, guys.

[Ronnie]

When I believed in love. Yeah. This is so Kyle. To be like, oh, my God. Happy wedding day. Here's pictures. Your dad at our wedding day. Oh, geez, Kyle, come on.

[Ben]

You got.

[Ronnie]

You got to compete with your own kid. Let Alexia have her dead butterfly moment.

[Ben]

Yeah, seriously. So she's like, so, guys, if dad showed up with a date, what would you do? And so he's like, kill him. Throw egg salad at his face. No, just kidding. I would never waste that. Throw your tortillas at his face.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. When he was photographed with that woman at the valet, I texted him, and I was like, what? You're doing the absolute most. Dad, tone it down. And he said, they thought it was private. And I'm like, oh, really? You thought a valet was private? Really?

[Ben]

I feel like it must be exhausting dealing with Mauricio in his midlife crisis. I mean, like, I would go nuts. He is. He really is doing the most, and he's ridiculous about it.

[Ronnie]

I mean, is he really doing a lot? I did see that photo shoot that he did.

Where he was in the leather pants. Did you see that one?

[Ben]

Yeah. He's just, like, I don't know, like. Like, the. The phone, the. The making out in public right in front of the paparazzi is just so much, like, going out to clubs in, like, Ibiza. I'm like, sir, you're, like, 56 years old. I don't know. I'm like, at a certain time, like, whoa, why are you. Why are you trying to act like a kid? Like, I don't know. It's so midlife crisisy. It's just.

[Ronnie]

Stop judging me.

[Ben]

Cringey. It's cringy. It's cringy.

[Ronnie]

Sorry. It's. Stop judging me. Stop judging me. So Portia's like, well, at first, I pretended none of this was happening, but then I went to therapy, and I'm doing really well, you guys. And Severance, like, oh, my God, we're so impressed with Portia. But we get, like, clips of Portia, like, crying and stuff. And Kyle's like, yeah, she has her moments, but now she's 17, and they all have something to say, and they all have strong opinions, and they are alpha females, so. Sorry, Mo.

[Ben]

Yeah, definitely alpha females. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So they want egg salad when they want egg salad. Sorry, Mo.

[Ben]

So now we go, like, guess what? We're gonna go to Bel Air. It's like Rachel Zo's first Beverly Hills scene. So we go to her house, and we hear, like, lots of Rachel Zo phrases in the background. And then she's just in a house that looks basically just like Kyle's house.

[Ronnie]

Everyone has the same house on the show. I can't even tell what house we're at anymore. And I'm pretty good at recognizing the homes. They all look exactly the same.

[Ben]

Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm sick of Kyle's house. Is this. It's a sort of. I'm having a weird reaction. I don't like when we see the exterior of Kyle's house. I don't like being there. I don't. I just. I don't like this house. I don't like her house. I love. I loved her past, her. The house she had previously. I love that one. But this one, I just. I see those hedges, those tall hedges. I see the backyard that's trying to be, like, these events. I see the wall art. I see the checkered floor. I see these Trying to be like.

[Ronnie]

Kathy Helms, the wall art. Trying to be like Erica James. It's just, like, too much. Trying to be like other people in one big, gaudy place.

[Ben]

And when the gate open and I see the street, and then I'm like, I know it's probably annoying to pull out of that driveway because the hedges cause blind spots. I just. I like. I don't want to be in any of it. I want a new house. Get a new house. You're rich. Get a new house for us, Kyle.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So I was excited to see Rachel's, but you're right. It is just kind of like everybody else is on this show, and it's not like, for someone who's a stylist, I thought there would be more interesting style in the house. It's just like a plain, big, white, typical rich person, you know, house. Beverly Hills house. Yeah. It's like white, white, white, white. White marble, white walls, white everything. So she's like, oh, my God. There's nothing like me that is remotely chic or cute in a flat. It's like I barefoot or in like a nine inch hill. I'll literally put on full cat eye makeup to go to sleep because I'm unapologetically myself. This is me. This is the happiest man.

[Ben]

Wait a second. Are those my friends? Oh, that's my friends playing right now. Oh, my God. That's wild. That my friends are playing during my monologue. That's wild. So she goes to Kathy Hilton's house. And I like this because it's like, okay, let's have a scene for the most famous people to talk to each other. So they go and they. And Rachel's like, oh, my God, Kathy. I want to hear everything. And Kathy's like, oh, I love that you came by. I love that I can't buy too. It's like wild. It's actually bananas that I came by. Like, I'm dead. By the way, this house, Gorge. Gorge. It's gorgeous right now.

[Ronnie]

My name is Rachel Zell. You may or may not remember me from Bravo because I've lived in this house before. Some might say I built it.

[Ben]

It's gorge. This house is wild. It's a gore. It's a wild gorge house. So we see shots of her trying to. She's like, in the closet and she's trying to reach a person. Like, oh. Oh, my God. Barking. One of my, like, really bad habits is shopping. I die, I die. Like, I shop and then I die. I die. Death by shopping. That's me.

[Ronnie]

Kathy and I have been friends forever. I was friends with Paris back in 2000. I don't know what. Yeah, we were friends first, but then I, like, saw Kathy and the other one, Nikki. Whatever. I saw him shopping and I was like, oh, my God. In love. Like, totally in love. Backwards in love. Dead. Died. Dead on the floor. Dead. Literally dead. Died. I died.

[Ben]

Okay, I'm just gonna sort of slip in here between you saying dead and bananas. I just want to show you a couple of things. We're gonna go to a wedding in Rome, so I don't know. Take a look at it. Rachel, what do you think?

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God. I'm in a moment right now. It's a moment because I feel like you're gonna need to pop outfit after outfit out really quickly. People expect so much from you, Kathy. I mean, they really do. I mean, I'm Gonna need some pants for you to wear over your head. You know, something like that.

[Ben]

Yeah, No, I get called a lot for fashion advice, but they, like, get, like, scared. Like, do you like this? You're like, literally one of my best friends. Like, first of all, I'm like, take that off. It's awful. It's disgusting. First of all, no, you look hideous. Like, literally. I'm actually embarrassed. I can't actually believe we're friends. This may be at the end of our friendship, but, like, it's like, okay. Like, we're friends. You can say these things to me. It's like, can we?

[Ronnie]

She whips up. Yeah. It's like they're terrified of me because I hate them. And so she whips out this purse that's as big as a small child, and she's like, yeah, this is what my vintage Gucci bags. I never go to Europe without it.

[Ben]

It's heavy. It's very heavy. Yeah. Like, literally, it's, like, heavy and chic. It's actually, like, heavy because it's, like, full of being chic. It's got, like, nothing but chic inside. It's chic. I die bananas.

[Ronnie]

So she talks about her career. Tommy Hilfiger gave her her first big styling job. Yeah, I started in music. Backstreet Boys, Britney. Etc. Etc, Celine. Sorry, couldn't do it. But moved to LA 2003. First red carpet job at Jennifer Garner. Then 24 7. I'm St. Cameron K. Salma. Seline. No. Still no Seline. She tried it. I said no. Still say no. Going through a rough time. Still no. Sorry. Dead. I'm dead. Not Seline. Seline's still with us.

[Ben]

Kathy, by the way, those glasses are, like, amazing. Especially with gold eye patches. I'm dead. Literally dead. Dead from gold patches. Okay. Then I started media business with my clothing clothing line in 2011. And now I have like, about 40 different brand licenses. Extensions. And I work with. And like, they just surround me and I'm just like, you guys are like my friends, you know, playing on the radio right now. I love it.

[Ronnie]

You guys should watch me in a. In a brand meeting. Okay, here I go. Oh, my God. This necklace. Dead. Dying. I'm dead. Like, I'm on the floor. Like, this is, like, crazy. It's, like, insane. All right, buy it.

[Ben]

That ring. Gorge.

[Ronnie]

Gorge.

[Ben]

Gorge. Index, index note. I love that. I love that pen.

[Ronnie]

Gorge. Put a feeding tumor in me. I'm in a coma. Dead. Dying.

[Ben]

This table.

[Ronnie]

I see the light. Should I go towards the light? Should I go towards the light or should I come back? I want to see, like, what the necklace looks like on me. So if I go towards light, is that heaven or is that, like, hell? I don't even know. But, like, right now, I don't have to decide because, like, I'm a vegetable. Like, I'm a human vegetable. Like, this is that gorgeous.

[Ben]

You know what? I almost went to the light because that light was gorge. And then I was like, I actually don't really look at in this light light. So then I went away from the light, and I'm back here, and I'm not dead.

[Ronnie]

That's how I ended up in purgatory.

[Ben]

Yeah, Purgatory.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, like, Roger. You might remember him, he's like, Roger with an extemporaneous D. Yeah, yeah. So Raj, like, we were, like, the Notebook couple. I mean, did one of them die? One of them died, Right? I've. I never really made it to the end of that movie because I was watching it with Raj, who wouldn't stop eating popcorn in my ear. Okay.

[Ben]

We actually licensed that Notebook. I was like, you know what I want? Know what you need? We need gorge notebooks for, like, everyone, and now we have them. There's, like, amazing wild bananas. Notebooks. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, it was just. My relationship with. Was with Raj was just, like, my reaction of watching the Notebook, where I was like, this movie would have been better with Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling was in that movie. Oh, I really did. I haven't seen the Notebook.

[Ben]

That dead. Like, literally dead dead. I have kids. Guess what? I've got two kids. One kid's name's Sky. He's going to France for two weeks. Another one's name is Kaius, or Chaos. We don't know. We pronounce it differently every single time. Actually gives him, like, some. It builds character. Kaios, we're like. We want to get as many vowels into his name without any consonants in the middle. So we came up with Kaios.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Me and Raj, we just, at the end of the day, get nothing for nothing. That's all you can say for the life of the dead. Okay. And, you know, we're just, like, different. Like, we're different. Like, before, we weren't different, but then we got married, and we were different. So, like, I've been divorcing him for, like, literally 20 years.

[Ben]

Yeah. Like, being the same as, like, wild. And I was like, mom would be different. Now we're different. And I'm, like, dead. Because we're, like, so different. It's Crazy.

[Ronnie]

So Kathy's like, so the marriage isn't going great. Okay, well, you know what? I love that you come all to help me. You know, things like this where you come in, you look at my rack, say no to everything, and then show me your giant purse. That was fun. But I just want you to know, always there for you. I'm always there for you. And you know what? People come to Kathy for advice. That's what advice. Thanks.

[Ben]

Thanks. I'm like, dad, why is there a.

[Ronnie]

Blender on your head? It's my. It's my hat.

[Ben]

Why are you giving me this fan? That way you can sleep better. Literally. I die. I'm going to brand this fan.

Here comes one right now.

[Ronnie]

So now everybody's primping, Kyle's primping. Erica comes over and compliments her like, oh, my God, you look so pretty. Oh, my God, you look so pretty. It's Beverly Hills. So there's like five minutes of oh, my God, you look so pretty at the beginning of every scene.

[Ben]

So is like, by the way, Erica, like, how did everything go with London? By the way, Kesha was there too. Just want to remind you that, like, what was cool that you did, like, a show in London. I know someone more famous than you who was also in London who also did a show. So, like, you're. No, nothing special. But anyway, tell me about. Tell me about hoopla.

[Ronnie]

Tell me how hoopla wise. Was it as good as it was on the big stage where Kesha was?

[Ben]

Did they start saying, you're the new Kesha or they say that just to KE. Do because Kesha was there?

[Ronnie]

I don't know. I asked Kesha about you. She said she didn't see you, but she did hear someone trying to squeak out a song, and she started raising the wall. Do you remember that reality show that Kesha was on? It was like American Idol, but it was called. I think it was called the Wall. Wasn't it called the Wall? And they had to sing behind a wall or something? And like, yeah.

[Ben]

I'm so stupid.

Erica's like, yeah, it was a great show.

[Ronnie]

Had a great time. Paris was there too.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

It was a. I honestly think it was the best show I ever did in my entire life.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah? What did you think about Kesha show?

[Ronnie]

Well, I don't know.

[Ben]

I guess it was good. Let's talk about Kesha show instead. Oh, okay. Because I know Ke$ha. Okay.

[Ronnie]

And then we see clips of Erica's show at whatever this thing is, and she's in, like, A red pleather, bustay, on all fours, slapping her butt like, yep, that's an Erica song. Good to see she can still do that. You know, it's going to be 20 years down the line. She's going to be in Branson, Missouri. Like my boss. My. I'm patting up my P. My P is on fire. It's my P.

[Ben]

Seriously.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, so they're gonna go to Sutton's house today. And she's like, oh, well, you know me already. All the good friends, huh? She's like, no. So you haven't even met her yet? You're gonna love her. She's so strong.

Well, the son of the personality, the draw. I love everything about it, which is.

[Ben]

Funny, because it's actually everything that Erica protests. Like, her entire life is a protest against that. But I love that she's like. It's like.

[Ronnie]

I love it.

[Ben]

I'm like, you're gonna get. I was waiting for Erica to get absolutely triggered by Reba, but actually, she was.

[Ronnie]

Me, too.

[Ben]

Didn't. I was actually upset.

[Ronnie]

I thought she was going to, too, because Erica's thing on this show, like, her Vanderpump and then her Sutton later. Like, the older women, she projects all of her mommy issues onto.

[Ben]

She.

[Ronnie]

She is triggered, you know, But. So I thought it was going to happen, but she didn't fudge with Reba. Reba is the real deal.

[Ben]

Yeah. Or maybe it's like when you just. At a certain point, it's like, okay, this is someone's mom. Like, they are who they are. They're ossified. I'm not gonna change them. I might as well just enjoy it. When you see it of someone in your peer group, that's when it's like. That's when the triggers happen. It's like you're acting just like my mother, but, like, when someone else is like, I don't. It's like, I don't know her. I don't care. Like, whatever. I'm just amused.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then we get the new violin section, and it's not the old violins, which were like.

Something like that. Now they're like. I don't know. They're intense. The violins are intense now. So we get them for the first time over at Suttons, and Reba sitting there playing the piano. I wish we knew what Reba was playing.

[Ben]

She's playing hard of rock and roll. The piano version, actually. New York, D.C. and.

Chicago and Detroit.

[Ronnie]

Steps.

And the dog runs upstairs crying from her playing. The dog's like, and then we get Nick, who's the party planner guy, because Avi no longer with us, guys. So Sutton updates us on her life. Her son James graduating. So my mother's here for support. Losing James to college, it's hurting me. So my mother and I get along better than ever now. We talk more. We have so much FaceTime. I mean, so we're just so much happier. I'm so, so, so grateful. I was like, wow, you're opening the season. You have no allies left. You had to bring Reba to shoot with girl, you in danger.

[Ben]

Yeah, they did. And notably, they did not even trot out Jennifer Tilly this episode, which was surprising because she's such a fan favorite, but no Jennifer Tilly. So Sutton's like, mother, are you wearing my earrings? She, these are my earrings. At least they are now. She's like.

[Ronnie]

Why wouldn't I wear my ear? Why wouldn't I wear your earrings? You're wearing my jeans all over your face.

So then Kyle and Erica are joking about. They're like, oh, my God, here we go. Sutton's house turning up the main road. Embarrassing, because they're like, how do we.

[Ben]

Get to son's house? I don't know. Just follow the main road.

[Ronnie]

What are you talking about? You're not fancy. You live on a main road.

[Ben]

You act like you're the Queen of Sheba. So Kyle's like, hello. They. They show up, and they.

[Ronnie]

Kyle does her usual hello. Oh, my God, I loved actually hearing this again, where she goes, hello. How are you?

[Ben]

Reef is like, oh, here comes this twit.

Hello.

[Ronnie]

Wow, What a pleasure to meet you, Erica. I can't wait to hear your story. Something tells me it would only be published and sold in the back of a 711 somewhere.

[Ben]

Now, excuse me. Let me sit in my chair where I like to get bored. So Kyle's like, are you scared, Sutton? Are you scared? She's like, no, no. Son's son tells us. Eric and I have been through a lot in five years.

[Ronnie]

Years.

[Ben]

And we see five years of them fighting on the show, which is always fun.

[Ronnie]

So we're both guarded, for good reasons. But I'm so happy to see you all. I'm so happy that you came here, because I was like, well, obviously we're missing Avi. So you want to talk about that? I have nothing going on, so my daughter wants egg salad. So go ahead, tell us about your drama. Avi, what happened? She's like, okay, well.

Well.

I let Avi go.

[Ben]

Okay, yeah. She says, nothing really happened. There was not, like, any drama. I would love to hear Avi's side of that.

[Ronnie]

He must have an ironclad NDA for Avi not to have gone on a podcast yet. Have I searched?

[Ben]

Yeah, I am fairly certain that something probably happened, but, no, I really don't know. Nothing really happened. There was, like, no drama. I mean, I love him. He made me laugh so hard, the way I would bounce plates and then apples and the knives and the more plates on top of his head, and he'd be like, stop doing this to me. And I'd be like, no, you're my servant. You have to do this. Now stand still. Oh, goodness. That was fun.

[Ronnie]

It's been really sad. Really, really sad. And the mom smiles like, that pansy finally got rid of him. Finally.

[Ben]

He sass me. My own kitchen.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so she tells us. Well, I've known Avi for a while, and he's seen a lot. He saw me married, he saw me divorce, and he's seen Porter graduate. That was a big one. I mean, who didn't want to see Porter graduate? Big moment for him. Big. Huge. You know, Avi was not only an employee, he was a close friend. He was a close friend, which is why I dumped his ass. And I'll never see him right here again. I'm sorry. Inside Voice. America's like, did you leave it on close terms? How'd that work out?

[Ben]

Well, I thought we did, but things got complicated when I said, you're fired. I will not give you any sort of benefits. I never want to see you ever again, and you were never a good assistant. Things just got complicated after that.

[Ronnie]

Look, I'm surprised. I was surprised to hear this about Avi, but it's not like Sutton was that easy on him. And then we see this eclipse of Sutton being like, where is my salad dressing?

[Ben]

Where are my shoes? Where are my trousers?

[Ronnie]

I just loved that they're like, let's show a really evil Sutton being mean to Avi.

[Ben]

Clip.

[Ronnie]

Where's my salad dressing?

[Ben]

You know, she's a. You know, she was a handful as a boss, though. Oh, yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, he looked.

[Ben]

I would never be son's assistant.

[Ronnie]

No, no, no, no. Yeah, he looked terrified in everything. He was always, like, sweaty, like, okay, yeah. Shall I get you that wrong fork?

[Ben]

Okay.

I said coke Zero, not that Coke. Yeah, I. It's like when she was like, he's. He was a close friend. I'm like, he was on your payroll, girl, not his friend. Sorry.

[Ronnie]

And she goes, well, look, personally, I just. I don't need a personal assistant. I just don't need that. And they're like, okay. Meanwhile, Nick's like, okay, ladies. And get. Getting everything. Just. Just warming up your seat, Sutton. Okay.

[Ben]

Sutton saying she doesn't need a personal assistant when she named her own daughter Porter is hilarious to me. It's in the name. It's in the name.

[Ronnie]

I'd like you to meet my son. Chambermaid. Come in here, say hello. Say hello to the girls.

[Ben]

You know what actor I'm really enjoying these days? Austin Butler. What a talent. What a talent.

[Ronnie]

He's really got something. And so Erica's like, well, sentence being evasive, but you don't want to talk about it. Then it gets around, especially around here. I get it.

[Ben]

Sutton's like. It's just so hard. It's a friend that I've lost, a friend who was very bad at his job, a friend whose employer gave him chance after chance after chance, who had, honestly, one of the best employers that one could ever have. And that person is lost now. What a shame.

[Ronnie]

Oh, speaking of that, what about Garcelle? You lost her, too.

Go ahead, talk about that now. Sutton's just sitting there. Kyle's just sitting there, piling it on, smiling. Her eyes are, like, semi crossed, lost.

[Ben]

What does it feel like to know that you lost the war? Okay, because people who sign up to watch Game of Thrones, this is kind of like, you know, when Cersei just has to lose King's Landing eventually. We knew. It's. We know it's gonna happen, and it finally happened. What's it feel like, huh?

[Ronnie]

Will she speak to you at all, son? She's like, no, she won't. I was like, well, I reached out to her, but then I didn't hear back from her. And then, you know, I saw stuff in the press, so.

[Ben]

Well, she unfollowed me, and I unfollowed her.

[Ronnie]

Well, I had to find out in the press.

[Ben]

Oh, go. Go ahead.

[Ronnie]

Go ahead.

[Ben]

No, just. I just want to say that Kesha also unfollowed her, and I. I just heard about that from Kesha.

[Ronnie]

Well, I had to find out in the press that she had unfollowed me, because I don't. I don't. I don't know these things. Yeah, I don't. I don't stare at Instagram all day at all. That's not me. It's just not me.

[Ben]

Kathy comes in. Yeah, I don't believe it either. Kathy comes in and gives, like, a hug to Reba and tries to do, like, I think like a sort of like an air kiss, like a sideways kiss. Everybody's like, oh, no, you know, I don't like those sad kisses. I was like, only Reba. Reba's the only person I think we've ever seen to actually critique Kathy Hilton.

[Ronnie]

And Kathy goes, yeah, I don't like him either. You just gave her one. So now they have to go outside to eat their lunch. And Kathy's like, can I lift my glass before we start kabittling and caboodling and fadoodling and for tiddling whatever. Reba, welcome to Los Angeles. This. And, you know, I would just like to extend grace to all the McIntyres and just say, I've loved your music for years.

[Ben]

What's she talking about? I was playing Huey Lewis on the piano, not Reba McIntyre. Mother, be quiet, be nice, and just say thank you. Okay, so mom and I were talking about Christian asking for an annulment in the Catholic Church. I don't know if you guys heard about this. I was like, don't you have to agree to do that? Like, I don't know, like Kesha told me, like, you have to agree to that. You guys talked to Kesha lately or is that just me? I'm the only one friends with her. Oh, that's crazy.

[Ronnie]

Oh, it's like, nope, you don't have to agree to it. And, you know, who are they going to choose? Someone named Sutton or someone named Christian? I mean, he's got religion behind his name. I just got to notice that it was an old. My marriage has been eradicated from the Catholic Church.

[Ben]

And so they're like, oh, no, that's cold. That's.

[Ronnie]

What the hell is Christian doing? He's like 70. What the does he care we 60 something. But like, what does he care what the hell Christian.

[Ben]

And Reba's like, does that mean that the children are bastards now?

[Ronnie]

Is that what she said?

[Ben]

Yes, you said that. She's like, does that mean they're bastards? She's like, no, no, no, they took care of it.

[Ronnie]

I won't have any.

[Ben]

I couldn't understand what she said. I, I.

[Ronnie]

Do you see where I said what I said that that happening. It still baffles. I couldn't understand what she said. That's funny. This mean the kids are bastards?

[Ben]

Does that mean the kids are bastards now? I didn't get to this age to have bastard grandchildren, okay? If they are bastards, I' out of the wheel right this second. No, Mother.

[Ronnie]

So no, that changed Francis, changed everything, you know, so the Children are legitimate mother. Okay. Girl's like, oh, my God, that's so stupid. I mean, I use my maiden name for work, but now that's all I use.

Wow.

[Ben]

So like whenever I'm like, totally the same whenever I'm working with John Wells, you know, because famously I, I did play Nurse Dory on er and anyway, John Wells doing the Pit now kind of a big TV show. Anyway, whenever I work with him, I just say Kyle Richards. So, you know, just letting everyone know. But basically the marriage was an old everything and ascent. And the letter that came to Sutton said Sutton Brown or whatever her last her name is.

[Ronnie]

A guy's a monster this Christian necessary.

[Ben]

Yeah, probably like don't use my good name on Bravo television and sully it for the ancestors. It's like, oh, shut up, sir. Shut up.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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