#3105 RHOP S10E10: The Grass is Always Greener

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens — RHOP S10E10: The Grass is Always Greener

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode: #3105
Date: December 8, 2025
Subject: Recap & Commentary on Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode 10

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of Watch What Crappens serves up the show's classic blend of loving mockery and sharp analysis as Ben and Ronnie recap The Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP) Season 10, Episode 10. The hosts break down the ongoing drama between the cast members, focusing on business launches, relationship woes, and the group’s ever-shifting alliances. The recap is rife with their signature banter, Bravo deep dives, and amusing diversions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bravo Viewing Catch-Up and Side Tangents

• Football Reality Hot Seat: Ben reviews Bravo’s "Reality Hot Seat," finding it chaotic but brightly lit—“not a triumph, perhaps, but the vibe was fun.” (05:53)
• Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: Ronnie shares that the endless jug event conflicts on that show are exhausting yet addictive. (08:09)
• Obituary on Hulu: Briefly praised as a “female Dexter” with a dark comedic edge. (07:33)

2. Giselle’s G-Wagon Adventure

• Eco-consciousness or Housewives Bling? Giselle shops for an electric G-Wagon, claiming eco motives while clearly seeking housewife status. (09:22)
• Wendy Joins: Wendy humorously claims her own G-Wagon was stolen, with Ben and Ronnie poking fun at the superficiality of housewives’ purchases. (10:58)

3. Cannabis Business Rivalry: Stacy vs. Wendy/Eddie

• Brand Drama:
  • Stacy and Wendy both launch cannabis lines—cue accusations of copycatting.
  • Ben notes, “Every housewife at this point is kind of a copycat of Bethenny Frankel... Everyone is trying to use housewives to launch some sort of brand and hope they hit it big.” (11:43)
  • Hosts discuss the merits and downsides of both brands and their aesthetics.
• Giselle’s Hypocrisy: Ben and Ronnie highlight how Giselle holds Stacy to harsh standards over “girl code” and honesty, despite her own infamous history of obfuscation. (15:00)
  • Quote (Ben): “Giselle has spent literally 10 years on the show being, like, very questionable about her relationships… and now she’s literally, like, nailing [Stacy] to a cross.” (15:00)

4. Potomac’s Supporting Characters Side Show

• Cookie, Tally Ho Guy, and More: Ronnie and Ben riff on the drama caused by Bravo’s colorful “friend of”s and side characters. (16:17)
• Calls for Cookie to become an official "friend of" on RHOP. (16:28)

5. Return of Monique: The Giselle & Monique Peacemaking Lunch

• Long-awaited Meeting: Past slights are aired—Giselle and Monique re-hash the binder incident, big boy trainer rumors, and their mutual trolling. (44:23+)
  • Monique describes her spiritual journey and admits to being triggered and reactionary, but still holds Giselle to account. (45:09)
  • Quote (Monique): “If you show me your ass, I’m going to kick it.” (44:23)
• Hosts Skeptical about Accountability: Ronnie jokes about the frequency with which Housewives claim "triggered" as an excuse and critiques Monique’s “Not for Lazy Moms” brand name (49:37).
  • Quote (Ronnie): “Who wants something called Not for Lazy Moms? I want something called For Lazy Moms!” (49:37)
  • Ben posits the brand name is a covert NFL reference (50:04).

6. Ashley’s Breakup and Old Habits

• Breaking up with Josh: Ashley ends things with her much-younger, less-affluent boyfriend, citing “different life stages” and fundamental incompatibility.
  • She openly admits to valuing wealth and is now hunting for a “rich old peen.” (39:02)
  • Quote (Ronnie): “You just want a rich guy. Well, stop torturing the poor… don't waste all of his years when you’re just looking for an old rich guy.” (38:12)
• Sisterly Advice: Later, she gives her teenage sister wink-wink tips about rich suitors and thongs, in their own odd way. (60:17)
  • Quote (Ashley): “Somewhere out there there’s an old, decrepit man with leathery, wrinkled skin…” (62:08)

7. Stacy vs. Tia: “Lying” Allegations and the Showdown

• Ongoing beef over Stacy’s alleged “white lies” concerning her husband Timo and social appearances.
  • Ben questions if these are magnified because of group tension rather than genuine harm: “There’s just different tiers of lying, and others… have lied about way bigger and way worse.” (32:13)
  • Tia accuses Stacy of repeated insincerity; Stacey gets support from AJ to stand up for herself. (28:43)
• Fight at the Dispensary Launch:
  • Tia confronts Stacy publicly at Stacy’s launch. Accusations escalate, with both women referencing British manners, Detroit attitude, and “ground zero” as a relationship reset.
  • Quote (Tia): “I do not need to play Detroit. I am prim and proper. I've extended my manners. Now watch me focus on the right side of the plate.” (80:14)
  • Jasmine (Jazzy) chimes in on the background theatrics, quipping about Juneteenth vibes. (81:01)

8. Competing Dispensary Launches: Shade and Social Dynamics

• Stacy's Launch (with AJ):
  • Hosted on Juneteenth, with Stacy positioning herself as a trailblazer and hoping to mend fences.
  • Ashley and Tia both show up for “support—sort of.” (67:49)
  • Tia confronts Stacy in the break room; after insults fly, Tia storms out, declaring, “She is trash.” (81:54)
• Eddie and Wendy’s Launch:
  • Smaller scale (“a very sad little setup,” per Ben), but features a loving nod from Eddie, naming a strain "Nutty Professor" after Wendy. (64:21)
  • Wendy notes the “competition” in cannabis but tries to keep the peace, not letting herself be rattled by Stacy’s brand. (65:24)

9. Karen’s Engagement Ring Storyline

• Karen’s fiancé Greg, joined by her mom and brother, browse engagement rings way outside a social work budget, clearly for show.
  • Ben and Ronnie joke about Greg’s visible discomfort at the price tags.
  • Angel (Karen’s friend) pretends to coach on “wag” (wives and girlfriends of athletes) etiquette. (55:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ben (on Housewives’ Brands):
  “Any housewife at this point is kind of a copycat of Bethenny Frankel, because everyone’s trying to use Housewives to launch some sort of brand.” (11:43)
• Ronnie (on Gizelle’s eco-credentials):
  "She just wants a big ass electric car." (09:23)
• Monique (on reconciliation):
  “If you show me your ass, I’m going to kick it.” (44:23)
• Ronnie (on Not for Lazy Moms):
  "Who wants something called ‘Not For Lazy Moms’? I want something called ‘For Lazy Moms’!" (49:37)
• Ashley (on breaking up):
  "My man is out there somewhere and I’m gonna find him. I’m just listening for the soft beeping of an oxygen machine." (62:08)
• Tia (on etiquette during argument):
  "Now watch me focus on the right side of the plate." (80:14)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• G-Wagon shopping & Housewife car culture: 09:22–17:24
• Cannabis rivalry — Wendy vs. Stacy: 11:01–13:29, 63:43–66:14, 67:42–75:02
• Monique & Gizelle make peace (lunch): 44:23–51:46
• Ashley breaks up with Josh: 36:32–43:43
• Stacy vs. Tia, dispensary fight: 71:25–82:10
• Karen’s ring shopping segment: 52:08–59:32

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Tone & Style Notes

The episode features Ben and Ronnie’s trademark razor wit, layered Bravo references, and banter that oscillates between affectionate ribbing and stinging snark. They slip easily between impersonations, pop culture, and deep Bravo lore, keeping the recap highly entertaining. The tone is playful, irreverent, and peppered with improvisational humor.

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Conclusion

This recap delivers a comprehensive, comedic breakdown of the ongoing Potomac drama, exposing the hypocrisies, alliances, and entrepreneurial aspirations at play. The hosts’ loving mockery — “we mock because we love” — ensures that even listeners new to RHOP will come away entertained and informed.

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Transcript

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[Ben]

Who cares what happens when there's so much.

That happens.

[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there.

[Ben]

Hello, hello, hello.

[Ronnie]

How are you going over there?

[Ben]

It's going great, thanks. It's Monday morning, ready to dive into the week. How's it going with you?

[Ronnie]

Good, everything's just great over here. Y' all run up to the holidays. We're going to be on Amazon live today to talk about a little holiday shopping etc and that's at 4pm Pacific time. You can find a link in our bio on Instagram.

[Tia]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Also that's it. We're recording a movie this week for Christmas with the reality gays for a super excited. That's my Secret Santa on Netflix. Looks amazing. Looks like a really quality, high quality film.

[Tia]

And that's it.

[Ronnie]

What's been going on in your life? How's your post Birthday Glow host?

[Ben]

Birthday Glow is fantastic. Had a little birthday party this weekend which was nice. Thank you to my friends who showed up. Apologies to people who I may have forgotten to invite.

And a little cookie party. I went to my friend's cookie party. It was just a really fun great weekend. You know, watch football. I took a gander at reality hot seat on Peacock which was an experience unto itself.

[Ronnie]

So tell me about it.

[Ben]

Well, you know, we love everyone who's involved. We have friends who are on the show and we loved, we love when our friends get opportunities and this was a quite the interesting experiment. Um, what would happen if Bravo people and Rob Mariano just got watch. Watch football as it happens. And I have to say I think as experiments go, it's one we'll always remember.

[Ronnie]

So it didn't, it didn't hit very well.

[Tia]

Huh.

[Ronnie]

So what'd they do? It was like sit around and watch the game and talk about the game or talk about other stuff or what?

[Ben]

Well, so I tuned in in the beginning. Like I tuned in like 20, 25 minutes into the game and Bronwyn was on there and she was giving like fashion updates. She was like analyzing some of the guys fashion as they walk into the stadium and Brahma was actually very good. Like she definitely is very comfortable in that like.

Talking head kind of space talking about fashion and. And then like I don't know, it was, it was like a lot of over talking and you know I'm one to, I'm one to talk. I'm one to over talk I should say so. You know. You know sometimes these first episodes people have to get their sea legs and Their chemistry. But it was pretty chaotic. Rob was just like drift. His eyes were. He was trying to watch the game instead of actually being on camera. So he's just, like, staring down at a TV on the floor the entire time. And he's like, well, they got the ball. They got the ball and now they're gonna run with it. It was just.

[Ronnie]

It was. Sounds great.

[Ben]

It was not a triumph, perhaps, but. But the vibe was fun. The nice energy. Nice energy. They had a little in studio audience. It was brightly lit. They were having fun.

[Ronnie]

It was brightly lit. Yes. And I love that. That is totally someone who comes to see your community theater show and has nothing to say at the end.

[Tia]

You.

[Ronnie]

There were so many lights.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, that. The lighting was just so bright.

[Ben]

But the. It's like in Bullets Over Broadway where Diane Wies.

When. When she's read the playwright script in that movie, and he's like, so what did you think? She's like, oh, well, I didn't really care for the. For the story or the characters, but the binder. Wonderful choice. But then, um. So it was weird because, like, the game was happening, but you weren't actually watching the game. You're watching, like, Bronwyn talk about fashion. I was like, but aren't you supposed to be like, what? Aren't we supposed to be able to see the game at the same time? Then I went to a cookie party and I came back for the final, like, five minutes of the game. And they were actually now watching the game. It was a split screen, and it was just chaotic. It reminded me of the time when you. You and I and Matt Whitfield auditioned for the People's Couch. And we were like.

[Ronnie]

That'S.

[Ben]

That's literally what they were doing. And Heather Gay. I don't think Heather Gay was listening to anyone. She just kept on talking over every single person. And she kept on. She was. People would, like, set her up for jokes and she was like, not. She was not. Yes. Anding. She was just in her own world. And it was just like, oh, no.

[Ronnie]

Well, glad I missed it. I watched a show called Obituary on Hulu that was really good.

[Ben]

Oh, I love feel good comedy. It's so good.

[Ronnie]

It's like a female Dexter, this girl, the obituary section. He starts killing people. That was really good. And I watched a lot of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

It just keeps going. I mean, I feel like I've been watching it for a long time. I mean, I can't binge it because it's just too much Numbness in my brain at one time. I mean, they're just over and over, you know, they're like, well, I don't.

[Tia]

Like her because I really don't appreciate what she did to me that time. But I'm gonna see her today at the jug event.

[Ronnie]

Oh, no. They're like, oh, my God, I have to see her today at the hydro jug event. And it's like a big deal. So, like, oh, my God, we cannot fight at the hydro jug event. And then the other girl's like, oh, my God, they're gonna fight at the hydro jug event. And then they do fight at the hydro jug event. And I'm like, wow, Hydro jug, Really? I mean, I sit here and drink a hydro jug every day. Where's my damn million? Here it is right here. Where's my. Why? Why am I not invited to fight with people every day? I drink out of this thing every single day. Hydro jug. Okay, you need me to tell Ben off while I do it to get some money from you people?

[Ben]

I'm so far behind on my Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and so now I'm like, I'm in one of those holes where you fall so far behind that then the idea of, like, actually catching up is so intimidating that you just don't do it, and then you fall farther behind. So I'm in one of those downward spirals. I just have to fix it. Especially because there's so much controversy and everyone has a lot of anger about this reunion that aired over the weekend. So, you know, I feel like I want to weigh in, but guess what? We're not even here to talk about any of this stuff. We're here to talk about Real Housewives of Potomac, believe it or not, which we are recapping today. Right now.

[Ronnie]

Right now. Real Housewives of Potomac season 10 episode 101010 and it's called Blunt Truths. Thank you.

[Ben]

Oh, I got that.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. See? So Giselle is car shopping for a G wagon, and she only wants an electric G wagon to help the earth. She wants to help all the mountains of ice that are melting somewhere that may or may not have a protective shell over the environment. She doesn't really know. She just wants a big ass electric car.

[Ben]

Yeah, she. She definitely wants one. And she. She's trying to be a better global citizen, I guess. And she announces to Aaron, the car salesman that her girlfriend's coming because she wants someone's opinion, which is hilarious. It's a G wagon. I mean, like, you either want one or you don't, right? What else is there to. What else is there to say you. Everyone knows what a G wagon is or is that.

[Ronnie]

No one's going to wagon a wagon. No one. No housewife is going to come on and be like, don't get a G wagon. Get a Hyundai. Hyundai, you know, or a Hyundai.

[Ben]

Like, you know what? Don't get the gwagon. Don't get the gwagon. Here's what you do. Get a. Get an entry level Mazda.

[Ashley]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So the person she chooses is her trusty friend, a very long time, very close friend to her. Only person she could trust to talk about G wagons with Wendy, who she's like, for, I think, five minutes. So Wendy comes and Wendy's like, oh, my God, my G wagon was stolen. They're like, no, it wasn't. You don't have a G wagon. Check. Never mind. Ride it out.

[Ben]

Right out of my G.

So Wendy is. She joins and she says she wants an electric car. And Giselle's like, oh, thinking about the G wagon. N. And she goes, I am. But I don't want to pull a Stacy, you know, because I want to tell you in advance, this is not going to be another Happy Eddie situation. So they're like, laughing because, you know, Stacy is the copycat, allegedly, of the entire group.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I love that they're making it sound like Wendy and Eddie went out into a farm and, you know, dug up and dug stuff up and put little seeds in and grew with their lights and all the. They are also an imprint brand. Everybody with another.

[Ben]

But also, like, who cares?

[Ronnie]

It's like another housewife coming out with moisturizer.

[Ben]

You know, everyone, honestly, any housewife at this point is kind of a copycat of Bethany Frankel, because everyone's essentially trying to achieve the same thing. Everyone is trying to use housewives to launch some sort of brand and hope they hit it big. So anything could really be accused of being house. I don't think it's crazy that that Stacy came up with a cannabis brand as well. I mean, it is hilarious that she named a Sho. And that means Joy and Nigerian. And you have Happy Eddie and you have, like, Joy. If anything, I actually would wager to say that Stacy's branding is, I think, better than Happy Eddies. Happy Eddies looks like it's marketed towards, you know, college kids. I mean, maybe that's the better. Maybe that's the better branding. Yeah, Stacy's actually looks like. Looks like actually a sophisticated weed product.

[Ronnie]

Well, I mean, yeah, but this is weed. You know what I Mean, like, I don't. Stacy's looks like, oh, take a bath. You know what I mean? Read a book. Take a bath. Hey, guys, remember Mary Higgins Clark? What a murder author reader. While you're in the bathtub, which you're.

[Ben]

Yeah. 100 Tweed.

[Ronnie]

You know, I want, like, Happy Eddie. I want, like, this probably tastes like bubble gum and pop rocks in your life.

[Ben]

But the thing is, but like, every. But every weed purveyor has that kind of vibe. So, like, Stacy's actually attempting to reach a different audience. Happy Eddies. I don't know. Happy Eddie, I hate. First of all, I hate the name Happy Eddie, and I hate the bring Eddie out merch that they're doing. I just. I think that they feel like these Eddie moments are more iconic than they are, and they just aren't they? Like, not even close to being iconic or memorable, but, like, to them, they're like, oh, my God, this is the most hilarious thing. Let's copyright it. I totally support Wendy and Eddie having a business. I just don't love their branding.

[Ronnie]

Happy Yeti.

[Ben]

Okay. Yeah, just call me Donny Deutsch.

[Ronnie]

So Giselle's like, what do you call those things with ice? The mountains with ice. Glaciers.

[Ben]

Ha ha ha ha ha.

[Ronnie]

So Wendy comes, and they're talking about G wagons and stuff. And Wendy says that she does want a G wagon, but she Giselle's color. So now they talk about Stacy. And Wendy's like, you know, sometimes people don't know how to tell you that they like what you're doing, so instead, maybe they mimic what you're doing, you know? So I still like her, though. I still like her. So Giselle's like, why doesn't that make you crazy?

[Tia]

Ah.

[Ronnie]

She's like, well, she's a nice girl, but why are you guys always on her ass? You know, what the hell? She's sweet. And she's like, well, it's valid.

[Tia]

Ah.

[Ronnie]

Stacy's making beds that she's lying in.

[Ben]

Yeah. And Giselle's like, stacy's a big fat liar. Everybody has issues with this woman and things that she has said. And I don't understand women that move like that. Because you're sneaky. You're sneaky. You know, I decided I'm going to take a step back and allow her to live. I don't have any energy for her. I just don't understand why Giselle is so bothered by Stacy. It's so over the top. Like, so Giselle's upset because she doesn't believe that Stacy's being honest about her divorce when Giselle has spent literally 10 years on the show being, like, very questionable about her relationships. Sherman, like, getting back. Not getting back together with what's his face. Her ass.

[Ronnie]

He himself said was just for the show and all fake. Yeah.

[Ben]

Jason Cameron. Everything is sort of like, what's the real truth going on here? Giselle. And now Stacy is having this moment, and Giselle's literally, like, nailing her to a cross. And then on top of that, you have this. What Giselle's really sinking her teeth into is this idea that Stacy violated girl code by talking to Chris Samuels. You don't even like Monique. You didn't even care about Monique until, like, not even at this scene yet. You still haven't even had your lunch with her, and suddenly you're gonna take up from Monique with girl code just so you could, like, go after Stacy? No, I don't. I don't think so.

[Ronnie]

And have you seen all the stuff coming out about Cookie, by the way? It's crazy. Cookie's apparently a nutcase.

[Ben]

She said that she had sex with Chris or something, right? Cookies and nutcase. I love it.

[Ronnie]

Well, I think. Yeah, I think we come to that later. But yeah, she's saying that she. I don't know. Apparently she's just really messy, and she has all these fake accounts, and she was going after love and marriage. One of those, I guess. D.C. was there one in D.C. 11 marriage. D.C. where she was coming again. Coming for all the people with all these fake accounts. And Cookie's a little cray cray.

So. Yes.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Good.

[Ben]

About to say the side characters in Potomac are kind of hilarious. You got Cookie, you got Tally Ho. Guy got all these sort of like.

[Ronnie]

Jail for fraud or something like that. Cookie, she. She's got.

[Ben]

Oh, wow.

[Ronnie]

She's got a lot going on. Got a lot going on. In other words, friend of. Please give us a friend of.

[Ben]

Give her a flute.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

So they're talking about Stacy, and then they go test drive the car, and Giselle doesn't seem to how to do it. I don't know. Was Giselle the one with the Mini Cooper? Who drove the Mini Cooper? Was that her husband.

Or was that only on Mary? To medicine. The little psychiatrist used to remember when he drove the Mini Cooper and it made you crazy. Greg Quad's husband, probably.

[Ben]

I just remember Katie Korla used to have, like, one of those little smart cars. And I remember she pulled up once when we were. When we were doing housewife hoedown and we're at that studio years ago, and I just remember Katie pulling up in this tiny little, like, box of a car. A thimble. She was basically driving a thimble with wheels, and she was waving out her window, and I was like, that's a small car.

[Ronnie]

So she doesn't know where the D for drive is. And he's like, we call that D plus now. So sorry. Sorry for anybody looking for a drive. This is a Mercedes, all right? We've improved the drive. Okay.

[Ben]

D plus.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Ben]

Is that so? It has a better grade than what every other car has, which is. Every other car gets a D. Somebody is like, where's Giselle? Do you know how to drive? And she's like, I own the road. I own the road. And then she just goes speeding around some, you know, suburban Potomac Street.

[Ronnie]

Is that the Mercedes slogan?

[Ben]

We own the road. Yeah, I own the road.

[Ronnie]

Is it?

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Ronnie]

No, I think it is the best.

[Ben]

I own the night.

[Ronnie]

We own the road. I'm going to look at that we own the road slogan. We own the road. I feel like I've heard.

[Ben]

I would look it up on my. My keyboard has died.

[Ronnie]

It's not recognized. It's not recognized as a slogan. What the hell? I thought it was we own the road.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's like a great slogan. We own the road. You know what would be great for, like, the, like, Bette Midler? I cleaned up this road. I own the road.

[Ronnie]

Maybe it's me. Every. Every time tax season comes along, I'm like, I own this road.

[Tia]

I paid for it with my taxes.

[Ronnie]

Why is there a pothole in this road?

[Ben]

That's actually probably right. It's probably tax. It's probably insolent taxpayers.

[Jazzy]

I own this road. You can't give me a ticket.

[Ronnie]

I pay your salary, sir.

So now Giselle's like, in the words of Karen, nah, I need to punch it.

[Tia]

Da.

[Ronnie]

And so then we see a flashback in 2021 of Karen and Mia driving around when they got those, like, Lamborghinis or whatever, Ferraris or whatever, to drive around. And Karen being like, well, with all this power, I feel like I'm moist.

[Ben]

So Wendy's like a. How's Cowan doing? Giselle says, you know, I don't know. I mean, don't you feel like she needs to be out, like, free Karen? And they're like, yeah, neither of them have either of them made any attempts to visit poor Karen or where as queer as Karen? Actually, maybe it's not feasible. Maybe she's not in the state file.

[Ronnie]

And a cake or don't call me your friend. That's what I say.

[Ben]

I feel like, you know, I'm seeing Monique and it's like the gang's all back together. We need the rest of the gang.

So that's why Karen. That's why Karen should be out of jail is that way they can have a complete cast.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Giselle is sick of torturing newbies. She's like, God, I miss abusing Karen.

So now they left out. What's that?

[Ben]

I said poor Robin left out. The gang's back together. And it's like, I forgot about Robin.

[Ronnie]

Robin's such a baby, man. I mean, look, everybody else on this show, on these shows, they get fired. And that's when you start your campaign to get back on the show. You know, you're like, look how much better I'm doing. Look how I'm going to, you know, lunch with somebody from the cast from a long time ago. I mean, even Teresa's out there working door to door. She became friends with the Gorgas again. I just saw that she made up with Kathy Wakely.

[Ben]

So I saw that.

[Ronnie]

That's something.

[Ben]

She's going to Christmas at Melissa's.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. That means they're going to try and reboot the whole family aspect of that show. You know, if you're reading signs. So if Theresa can do it, you all can do it. That's the most pig headed lady I've ever seen. So come on, Robin, get off your couch and make an effort.

[Ben]

Yeah. Also, like, let's be honest, Robin, the reason why you. I think, I believe the reason why Robin ultimately got fired is because she put information on Patreon before she put it on the. She. She withheld it from the show and put it on her Patreon. And I think after that, I think, like, unless she had like an amazing season, she was gonna be out of there and she did not have an amazing season. And then she's like, mad at. At like NBCU for dropping her. It's like you. You made yourself of, like a fan unfavorite and you withheld information and like. And then you're gonna be mad that you lost your job because of it. No.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Like, you should have come to your. You should have come to your reasonably shady party.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. If you want your job back, you need to come out here and throw Juan under the bus. I love. For the public. For the public's consumption. Okay, get with.

[Ben]

Also, because, also, honestly, not for nothing, she was actually Pretty good on the Traders. She had, like, a nice turn on the Traders and like, she was building back her image. And because I remember when she was on the cast on the Traitors, we all were like, Robin on the Traders. And then she was on there and she was good.

[Ronnie]

And. And so can I be honest, I forgot she was on the Traders. And when she was. You were saying she was at Bravo Con because of Traders. I was like, oh, Robin's going to be on Traders. That's cool. Good for her. Well, she was on there.

[Ben]

She didn't last that long because she was outspoken, but she was actually, like, she was likable. She. She commanded a lot of attention. And it reminded me that there actually was, like, for a good stretch of time on Potomac, I was a big Robin fan. I actually used to love Robin and Giselle together. And I used to really love Robin. I felt like she was, like, really cool and chill. But she kind of, you know, she got hardened. She got hardened and I think just like shit with one just sort of, you know, it kind of like ruined her a little bit.

[Ronnie]

Oh, gosh. Poor thing. God bless her.

[Ben]

Thing.

[Ronnie]

So flashback to 2020 reunion, because they're talking about Monique and Wendy's like, oh, last time I thought she had to buy the baby. And so we see the binder when Monique was question Giselle. And I love that binder. I still love the binder. It's so funny. It's like one of those old picture books, you know, with the Grammy wallpaper cover and everything. And she's like, well, this is my little receipt book. Everyone has a tab. And Giselle saying, well, Jamal and I have been through a lot, and they're going, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you got back together. But he told his girlfriend that it was just reality tv and it wasn't even true.

Yeah, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial.

[Ben]

So back to the present. Monique is. I mean, Giselle says that she's feeling good about seeing her. And.

And. And she's like, I guess Wendy's saying that she is feeling good about seeing her, that everything was light and everything. And Giselle's wondering where everything went wrong.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She's like, if this is the same woman from five years ago, I do not want to see her.

[Tia]

Ra.

[Ronnie]

As you were getting kicked out of her house for talking shit about her in her house. God, there's so many good Monique scenes of Monique telling off Giselle. I hope this piece that Monique is coming with lasts for about two weeks. Because I need to see her come for Giselle. Giselle needs somebody to come for her. She's just got free reign over there. She's coming for everybody all the time. And I need somebody to make Giselle answer for what? I don't know. Her wallpaper, really? Anything the color of her living.

[Ben]

Tried. Angel?

[Ronnie]

Tried. Wow. I need a background.

[Ben]

Called me a catfish. You'll get to know me. So now we go to a brewery, and Stacy is there with her friend A.J. i love A.J. he's so funny. And they're sitting outside with beers, and Stacy's like, I am so happy that you're here, aj. He's like, well, you know, I was not gonna let this event happen without me being here. It's like, oh, yes. Tomorrow is so major. I can't believe that I'm finally launching my brand.

[Ronnie]

A brand for Arabella and making history right on Juneteenth. And she's like, look at God. Would you just look at God? Look at him.

[Ben]

Won't he do it? I don't think. I mean, like, yes, like, God controls everything, but, like, I don't think that this is, like, a big religious moment that you decided to have your brand launch on June. On Juneteenth. It's not like it was like, suddenly divine powers converged and we were able to do it. It's like, you just schedul on that date. It's fine. It's good. It's great. It's a great day to do it. But, like, she's like, oh, my God. So Stacy's like, well, I like that.

[Ronnie]

The president just took away Juneteenth, and then Stacy took it back. She's like, no, if Juneteenth isn't Juneteenth, it's not Trump's birthday. Okay. It is going to be the launch of Shallow. So mine. So Stacy for president.

[Ben]

Yeah, truly. So we see Stacy. Flashbacks to Stacy talking to a photographer about, you know, how shallow came to be. And she's like, shia was going to be birthed into the world photographer. I am the first black woman in the state of Virginia to have her own cannabis business. And I said it to the girls in the group, and nobody even seemed to have the same feelings that I have, which is. I think it's like, something that should be celebrated. I mean, where I am in the group is just. It's been a lot.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So she sent a group text inviting everybody to the launch, but she doesn't know. She knows that everybody just loves to Hate her. And so we see the text and it's like, good morning texting. Isn't this amazing? Anybody remember the Morse code?

[Tia]

Won't he do it?

[Ronnie]

Although we are not in the best place right now, as I launched my business on Thursday, making history as the first black woman to not only sell a bejeweled camel on qvc, but entrepreneur in the cannabis industry in Virginia. I want you to know that you are welcome. It will be a Juneteenth celebration and perhaps an opportunity for us all to move forward.

[Ben]

And we see a flashback to two weeks ago and Stacy's FaceTiming Giselle about it. And she's like, I'm working Giselle. And she goes, qvc. She's like, no, Giselle for my cannabis line that's coming out.

[Ronnie]

And then we see her at that Pride event. And Giselle's like, what's the name of this company? Shout. Yeah, we named it a Nigerian name.

[Ben]

This is so funny.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Are you Nigerian?

[Tia]

Another instance of her not being genuine. You know what I mean? I'm gonna go back to this kangaroo sandwich I'm eating.

[Ben]

I know. So Stacy's like, I'm always. I'm always the one who's being accused of something. The latest thing is that Ashley and Kay are telling Monique that I used to date Monique's ex husband. And I'm relaying messages and AJ's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So they said that you did this? Yes, they say, I'm calling him and trashing Monique.

[Ronnie]

And Ashley would know this how? Because Kay told her that. Somebody else said. He's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. All your old asses need to stop it.

[Ben]

Okay, this is dumb.

Wait, I'm gonna do you one better, Tia. Miss Prim and Proper. She tried to read me in the British way. Oh, you're an effing liar.

In a British way.

[Ronnie]

He's like, well, don't you let somebody come across the pawn and read your ass now. And you from the D, maybe you should speak up for your damn self. Put your foot down. Check them. I seen you do it. I've seen you do it.

[Ben]

You know what? I am non confrontational. It's just not my nature, as you will see in the rest of this episode. But I'm not stupid. There will come a point where enough is enough.

[Ronnie]

Let him have it.

[Tia]

Let him have it.

[Ronnie]

In an empty weed shop.

[Tia]

She's like, okay, I'm in.

[Ben]

Sounds like a great plan. So now we go to Tia, who is she's at the real estate office, and she's just, like, chatting with this guy Rob and just having a. Like a. Like a wisp of a. Of a professional scene where she's like.

[Ashley]

Business, business, real estate, mortgage rates.

[Tia]

Having that business acumen. I've learned that quite late. I've got handed everything. Growing up, my husband had shitloads of money. Like, I went to school with Sting, Sting's daughter, and Boy George lived next door.

Lots of knocking from the radiator in those days. Well, lifestyle of the rich and famous was our life. And then the 80s went away, and so did a lot of the money.

[Ashley]

Yes, unfortunately, Sting, it does no longer text my phone calls. But that's okay. We still always have our treasured childhood memories of going to school together.

[Ronnie]

Man, that 80s come down really was a bitch. That happened in my family, too. My dad, we thought we were rich growing up. Like. Like, rich rich. And we were not rich.

[Tia]

It was all a lie.

[Ronnie]

And then all the crash happened, and then we found out we were poor. That sucks. I'm still mad. I want to be rich. I want to be, like, a rich kid.

[Ben]

That's fair to be mad about that.

[Ronnie]

You know, what the hell, 80s. Stupid 80s.

[Ben]

It is a little bit sitcom y, though, you have to admit. Like, you. You have to enjoy the fact that there's a. There's a sitcom premise in there. I mean, it's Lily shit's creek, right?

[Ronnie]

It was. Yeah. My mom actually went from being a country club lady to opening a snack bar in the country club, and so she had to work for all the country club ladies. And I was so proud of her. I mean, I still am, because that's, like, crazy. That's, like, a crazy thing to put yourself through. And she did it, and it was like a sitcom. Like, all the ladies who were their friends being like, oh, Rhonda, look at you making hamburgers.

I guess you're gonna miss your tennis lesson today.

[Ben]

Poor thing.

[Tia]

I'm getting a hamburger to support Rhonda.

[Ben]

It really is very much a sitcom. I mean, there was that episode of the Simpsons where Marge Simpson got, like, a Chanel little suit, and then she, like, got into a country club, and then she was like, but she only had that one Chanel suit, so she had to keep on, like, tearing it apart to make it look like a different Chanel suit. And then she eventually destroyed her own Chanel suit. I couldn't do it anymore. Actually kind of a brilliant episode.

[Ronnie]

She had the Leanne Lock in.

[Ben]

She had the Linfinity Chanel Linfinity by chanel. Collab this.

[Ronnie]

10 different dresses. You take off the skirt, wear it on your head.

[Ben]

Linfinity Infinity. So Tia then tells us, my dad.

[Ashley]

Didn'T come from a lot of money. I don't think he made a lot of wise investments. So there was a lot of having but not knowing how to sustain. And I'm actually very thankful because that's an incredible lesson, which is never trust your father.

[Jazzy]

He's an idiot.

[Tia]

Spend it while you've got it.

[Ronnie]

So she thinks she needs to call.

[Tia]

Stacy because I'm a little bit of apprehensive about that invitation. We kind of started to form a friendship, and then, boom, it was gone. Just like with the 80s, our friendship was gone. Unsustainable. Adam.

[Ben]

So we see a flashback of. Of a lunch where in the beginning, everything was warm and lovely. But then we have the pool, the dreaded pool moment, which. It's funny, you know, I love Tia. I love Tia, but I actually do think that Tia's, like, she's on the wrong side for me right now. And I hate when my favorite characters are on the wrong side of what I like, but I think she is. And in fact, when that scene happened with Timo and he said he was traveling, and then Stacy said that, oh, Timo just got back in town, I was like, oh, I love Stacy, but you keep on lying. This is not good. But now thinking about it and then seeing it again on this episode, I'm like, you know what? There's really. It's really not the worst thing in the world. Like, he doesn't want to go to dinner, so he's like, yeah, I'm traveling. And then they, like, they press about it. And then she, like, Stacy messed up. Stacy messed up the excuse. Like, that was her bad, like, excuse juggling. She messed it up. This is not the end of the world. And they're. They're using this as evidence that she is, like, the biggest liar in the world. And it's like, it's a lie. Yes. But, like, there's a. There's just different tiers of lying, and other people on this cast have lied about way bigger and way worse. What do you think, Ronnie?

[Ronnie]

I'm just laughing because you're. You're the funniest Stacy defender. You're like, no matter what. But, no, I do agree with you. I mean, I think that this whole. This. This particular thing of the husband. We see her call, and she says, so, aren't you coming to this thing? And she says, oh, well, I'm not. Doesn't she say, like, I'm not. He's not comfortable around the group yet. She said. She said the truth first. Like, he's not ready to be around the group yet. And then Tia was like, but you.

[Tia]

Said he was traveling.

[Ronnie]

And she goes, oh, well, he was traveling. You just got back in tonight. So, like, it just shows that her first instinct is to just tell a white lie, even though we know that she was telling that lie because her husband doesn't want to film with everybody.

[Ashley]

Right.

[Ronnie]

So.

[Ben]

Right.

[Ronnie]

And I guess he's thinking, she can't say that even though she did just say it. I don't know. But she's a little white liar. She does tell a lot of, like, kind of innocent lies. But I can see how it would get on everybody's nerves. I think it's just because kind of. It's kind of like the thing that we're going through on Salt Lake City. Where do I think Meredith was drunk on a plane, telling somebody off? Sure. Do I care? No. Because I feel like they're all hypocrites, and they all do this all the time.

[Ben]

Exactly.

[Ronnie]

So I'm like, why are you jumping on one person? You know, I don't love.

[Ben]

I don't love someone who is doing lots of little white lies all the time. I don't love that at all. And so I get the frustration with that. And I'm not saying, like, oh, whatever. She just did a little lie. It's more like the fact that it gets escalated to, like, a loud fight. It's like, does it really, like, merit that degree?

[Ronnie]

You know, especially from Ashley and Giselle, who are known to be liars on this show. I mean. Yeah, come on.

[Ben]

I mean, I get it. It's like. It's rude. It's rude. And, like, you invite someone to dinner and you're trying to make inroads. I get it. And it's frustrating. I've definitely dealt with people who. I have a. I have a friend who I adore, but almost anytime I try to make plans with her, she's. It's always like, oh, I'm just actually under the weather. There's some people who just. They will always give that. And you know they're lying. You know they're lying. They just want to stay in. And at first, I used to take it really personally. And then you just. Then you just sort of say, you know what? They just. You. You're not. Extend the invitation with no expectation that they'll ever hang out. And that's just what it is, because they. It's just. It's not. Not what they can do.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Meet people where they're at at Lighttown. You know, Lightown. Let's go to Light Town. So Tia does call her, and she's.

[Tia]

Like, oh, thank you so much for inviting me with that lovely invitation. I would like to come and support. And I figured we could probably talk, because the way things happened at Giselle's event was not the way I would like them to happen. This is not the way.

[Ben]

So Stacy's like, well, you know. Yeah. Your response to me was very surprising. And I'm confused as I. I just. I don't know what's going on with us.

[Ashley]

Oh, well, I'm disappointed about. Stacey's lying, but she seems like she really wants to make amends. And I'm like, okay, what would Jesus do? Would he just spend all the money? Oh, wait, no.

[Ben]

But also, what would he do in this situation, too?

[Ashley]

Because I'm open. I haven't completely written you off yet.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So they decide they're gonna sit down, and they're gonna figure this out. So now we go with Date with Ashley and Beavis, which is super awkward. I still can't believe they're dating. Poor guy. It's not really his fault, but how does his hair get crazier every episode? Is he trying to fix it? And it gets worse. Is it a wig? What's happening? I couldn't even today.

[Ben]

I was confused because the la. On the last episode, Ashley decided that she was going to drop this guy, and then they're going to, like, an arcade. And I was like, so is she not gonna drop him? But actually, it's a little bit of both. So they get there. They sit in, like. Like a. It's like they're at, like, a Dave and Busters, and there's, like, a guy in, like, a brightly sequined shirt being like, welcome, here's your seats. And so they sit down, and they're, like, doing this driving thing.

[Jazzy]

And she's like, oh, it's bucket seats.

[Ben]

And they are having a very fun time. And Ashley tells us that there's something.

[Jazzy]

Like, a little different between the dates with that Josh and I go on versus, like, maybe some of my older suitors.

[Ben]

I'm like, yeah, sorry, you're not. Not going to a sample sale at Tommy Bahama with Ralph's.

[Tia]

It's just so weird to be with a guy who doesn't fart without knowing it.

[Ben]

You know? I said, tommy Bahama with Ralph's instead of Tommy Bahamas with Ralph. Isn't that weird? I pluralized the wrong word?

[Ronnie]

Well, there. There is a grocery store called Ralph, so I can see what you're saying.

So we see a clip from a date where they were playing beer pong and she's like, wow, one.

[Tia]

One guy, one of the guys I dated rented out a whole restaurant. One guy took me on a private jet to Vegas. And, you know, that's just like the caliber that I've been used to. So.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so you just. You just want a rich guy. Well, stop torturing the poor. The poor guys, you know, let him. Don't waste all of his years when you're just looking for an old rich guy. And also, look how that worked out. I mean, it was Gollum. Is it worth it?

[Ben]

Exactly. I mean, also, you've been dating this guy for a year. At what point after the first date did you ever think that this guy was going to rent out a whole restaurant for you or whisk you away to Vegas? I mean, come on now. I just think she's not, like, very wise when it comes to seeing red flags with these guys.

[Ronnie]

Well, I think she was dating him because her stuff from Michael wasn't finished yet. So he's like a placeholder because she knows she's not going to try and get him to marry her or do any of that stuff. And she always has an excuse with him, like, I can't do get any further because I'm still getting divorced. And now that that's kind of done, she's like, okay, I've tried young peen. You know what? I'd rather old peen with money.

[Ashley]

Bye.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then we see. She said, even Michael would, like, do very swanky dates. And we see a picture of her and Michael with a dolphin.

The dolphin's like, whoa, big forehead.

[Ronnie]

So then the dolphin's like, okay, guys, I said a threesome for one night, okay? Is not my lifestyle. Just please leave me alone.

[Ben]

Dolphin's like, that strange man is touching my ass.

[Ronnie]

The dolphin's writing a blog. He's like, there was a man. I got a picture of him. He's in his underwear in my ocean.

[Tia]

You're like, oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

So they go get some refreshments after their race. And she's like, wow.

[Tia]

That simulation was like, so real.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Tia]

So anyway, I'm dumping you because, like, we're. We've been together a year, and to me, one year is like, that's like a time of reflection.

[Ronnie]

Didn't you dump him for half a year to go old people on Love Hotel.

[Ben]

Yeah, seriously. And she said. She's talking about how when she first met Josh, like, her divorce was. Wasn't finalized, and it's just. He was what I needed, AKA Dick.

[Ronnie]

Right, Right.

[Tia]

And.

[Ben]

But now she is, like, now that she's divorced, she can now officially look for, you know, rich guy. So time to drop Josh.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, she dumps him. And she's like, you know, what I.

[Tia]

Fear will happen is that, you know, you're young and you don't have kids yet, you've never been married, so eventually you're going to want those things, and I don't want more children. But, like, if I were to have children, you know, it would have to be, like, now. And I just don't see you in a place that you're able to do that in a year or two. Okay, so I'm breaking up with it.

[Ben]

But it's like, why do you. Why do you say that?

[Jazzy]

She's like, well, you know, it takes more than a relation than just this. I mean, like, you know, like, there's financial elements that everybody needs to be aligned on.

[Ben]

He's like, I've got, like, 75 in my bank account. I don't see what the problem is.

[Jazzy]

Yeah.

[Ben]

He's like, I don't think you fully understand where I'm at. You don't even understand my finances. You don't even know them. You don't even know what I do for a job. And that's a trick question because I don't even have a job.

[Jazzy]

Um, yeah, but, like, let's just, like, keep it, like, a buck. Cause there's, like, certain things, like, certain markers, you know, like, babe, we've never even taken a trip together.

[Ben]

He's like, what about the mall? Hello?

[Ronnie]

He's like, we just went racing through Paris together on that machine. Okay, that was not cheap. You think Dave and Buster's is cheap? It's expensive as hell. Okay. And I like when she said, we've never taken a trip together. And he's like, so I did ask you to come to Pittsburgh to see my parents.

[Tia]

Yeah.

[Jazzy]

Not. I mean, yeah, we could do better than Pittsburgh. She's like, I'm saying, like, internationally. Like, we've been dating for a year.

[Ben]

He's like, oh, well, I mean, are you open to Toronto? So he's like, well, I don't need a trip to solidify our relationship.

[Jazzy]

She's like, no, no, no, it's. No, but, like, we just need a Trip to have fun, you know?

[Ben]

He's like, okay, then let's take a trip this weekend. Okay? Like, I don't know. This may be crazy. Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Beautiful this time of year.

[Ronnie]

There is a native casino five miles from here with your name right. Written right on the nickel machines. All right?

[Ben]

It's called Delmarva Peninsula. Delmarva Peninsula, everyone. We're going.

[Ronnie]

Have you ever been on a boat on a river with a slot machine inside of it?

[Tia]

Oh, yeah.

[Ben]

What about the Poconos?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So this is kind of harsh, because she's basically like, you're poor, and I'm leaving you. And he's like, oh, you don't know that I'm poor. She's like, yeah, I do. He's like, no, you don't. She's like, yeah, yeah, I do. You're. You're not. You don't have enough money, and you've got way too much hair on your head. Okay? Call me when your nipples start talking to your belly button.

[Tia]

Okay?

[Ben]

And he's like, I thought we were on a date.

[Ronnie]

Wait.

[Ben]

But actually, you just brought me on tv, so that way America. America could see that you've just dumped me. So. Okay, great. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God, by the way, I'm paying for these nachos.

[Ben]

Yeah, I support her dumping him, by the way. But, like, it also was kind of funny because he definitely thought he was on, like, shooting a nice scene where he was on a date and he actually dumped. So he's like, can I at least walk you out?

[Jazzy]

She's like, I'd like that.

[Ben]

So they walk out, and I guess that's the end of Josh.

Here comes one right now.

[Ronnie]

So now we go to lunch with Giselle, Giselle and Monique, and we hear clips of them fighting in the past, and Monique's like, bottom behind trick, shut the up. I'm like a ninja waiting for the right moment to blow your face off.

[Ben]

Pastor Holy. So Monique says, back in the day, I just think Giselle was a hater, and she was miserable, and she just wanted to pick on people. And I don't really know what things are gonna, like, turn out, like. But I've showed so much grace to Giselle on so many different times. There's only so much that I can take. And if you show me your ass, I'm gonna kick it. And then she just laughs.

[Ronnie]

I mean, maybe that's not the right analogy to make right now. So Monique comes, and they're, you know, making small talk. You look good, Die. You look good, Die. You look good.

[Ben]

Die.

[Ronnie]

Well, I don't know what's gonna happen. At least I could look cute. Die. So they talk about how they have a lot to discuss, and Giselle's like, do I begin with Drag me Monique? I mean, maybe start with your own problems. Like, why are you taking it back to a candace fight from 2018?

[Ben]

I know. And we see a flashback to Monique saying, I will still drag you pregnant and all. And Candace goes, drag me Monique.

[Ronnie]

Monique.

[Ben]

So I totally forgot about drag me Monique. So Monique is like, no, no. My dragon days are over. That's behind me. I've been delivered.

Yeah. Well, it's also, like, you realize you're back on Bravo, right? Like, the dragon will have to resume. So she said, wow, so much has happened over the past five years. I mean, I had to really sit back and be like, why was I mad at Giselle again? And then I remembered instantly. A flood of memories came back, and I thought, wow, there are actually so many reasons to be mad at her. So funny.

[Ronnie]

I couldn't remember why I was mad at you. I just have had nightmares every single night since you came back into my life where this giant neck is trying to swallow me whole. Like, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, that's enough. She's like, but, you know, I've. I've. I've healed. And I like to do self reflection, you know, because I was just so busy being the victim, and I was mad at everybody else. And then when I started going through divorce, which you can relate to, you know? Remember, you got dumped, and it was like, you start peeling back all these layers and seeing what you've contributed to certain situations. Right, Giselle? It's like, nope, I contributed nothing to my divorce. Nice story, though.

[Ben]

Yeah. I've been talking to my mom and talking to my dad and confronting things that happened to me over the years and finally making peace with them. And this was just, like, the one area that I hadn't made peace with. So when Ashley invited me to come around, I was like, you know what? What? This would be a good opportunity to continue my healing journey. But by the way, it doesn't mean you're off the hook. She's like, yeah, I'm not falling. I'm not just falling on a sword. Here's a sword for you, too.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And so she's like, so what did you come up with after you reflected? Well, you know, you have a tendency, Giselle, to be in people's relationships, and I think that's where it went off the rails with the Whole, like, trainer situation, you know, Remember the big boy comment? And we see a flashback to 2019, where Giselle's like, the word on the street is Monique and her trainer were a wee bit too close for comfort.

[Tia]

Da.

[Ronnie]

And big boy found out.

[Tia]

Da.

[Ben]

So Monique's like, yeah, that was messy. And she goes, it was just like, a little, like, you know, I went into protective mode.

[Ashley]

Totally.

[Tia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And I was always doing the protecting of the image and all that stuff. So it just became, you know, like, okay, she wants to attack my situation, so I'm gonna attack hers. And then we see that, and she says, I just felt so bad when I saw your daughter after I called out her father for being Pastor Holy whore. And she's just gorgeous. You never would have thought that she was the daughter of such a huge manslaughter.

[Ronnie]

Right?

[Ben]

And then I was just like, I feel so bad. And I realized how my actions really impacted her.

[Ronnie]

So Giselle, you know, Giselle, who's huge on taking accountability, goes well for me, our relationship, I felt at the time, you know, the real, live hate was coming from your side more than me ever to you. No, ma'. Am.

So how would you even make up with this person who says that you came for her from the first second she came on the screen, the first second she didn't do anything to you, you came after her for using her husband and how, you know, crazy she was with her money and how ridiculous and braggadocious she was and all this other crap. You never, ever let up on Monique, ever, until you tried to use her against canvas, and that was maybe five minutes, and it ended up working very well, as I recall.

[Ben]

And she's like. Monique's like, well, I won't say that you're all the way innocent. She goes, no, no, no. I have my part for sure. My very, very small part. Teddy part, almost not even there. So some would even say I don't have any part in this whatsoever. But I know I have felt sorry, so I just. I want you to know that. That I occasionally will. Bill. Sorry.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then we see the. The.

We see the barn incident. You gonna drag me? You want me to. Do you want me to drag you? Drag me? Drag me, Monique. And then she drags her. And so she's like, well, I didn't want that to happen. But, you know, you. You get a mountain of that's been piling, and it just takes one person to top it off. And I just erupted. And so she goes through her whole thing, which, I mean, we've all known she's gonna have to go through this, right? Where you come on, and you just basically, was it prostrate yourself, and she's just like. It was just, you know, I was triggered. And that's not an excuse, but it is a very popular word in our time to excuse everything. And the way I reacted was terrible, but I was triggered, so that's what triggered my whole spiritual journey. So, you know, there was bad triggering, but then there was good triggering, because now I'm triggered to sell more essential oils for people's peace or whatever.

[Ben]

Over not for Triggered Moms.

[Ronnie]

So Giselle says, you know, one of the things I don't like about Monique. I'm sorry to interrupt, but one of the things that's always bugged me is that business name, not for Lazy Moms. Who wants something called not for Lazy Moms? I want something called For Lazy Moms.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah, you're lazy.

[Ronnie]

This will make your life easier. You know, I don't want it to be like, oh, you're perfect, and here's something for you. Who wants that? I think she should rebrand.

[Ben]

I. I fully believe that not for Lazy Moms was a play. The. Like, if you. If you do an acronym with it, it becomes NFL Moms. So I think it's like, that's her, like, clever, like, inside, like, elder wag reference. You got to get to know me. Sorry, guys.

[Ronnie]

I never realized that that was NFL Moms.

[Ben]

NFL.

[Ronnie]

What a dummy.

[Ben]

Yep. NFL not for Lazy Moms. I think she was like, I want to call it, like, it's something that's branded for my fellow NFL moms, but I can't say NFL, so I'll call it not for Lazy Moms.

[Ronnie]

Ah, got it. Okay. So Giselle's like, you know, I just couldn't figure out, like, who was the person in your ear that was making you be crazy. So in my mind, I just blamed it on your husband. You were making her crazy. You were the one. You were the one trying to start that found that fight between Candace and Monique. Monique for the whole season, and it finally worked. I remember when that fight happened, I was more disappointed that Monique fell for it than the actual fight itself. I was like, come on. You fell for this. This is the oldest trick in the book. This is Giselle101. How are you falling for this?

[Ben]

Somebody says, it was just pressure. I'm not gonna sit here and just blame it on him. You know how it is when you're a public figure. There's a certain image that has to be upheld. And then I was also a perfectionist. It was just a recipe for disaster. Well, I was gonna say I wanted to come and just be.

I know, right? Isn't it funny? Because I'm just. I was just like, I don't know what this is to expect with this lunch, but, like, I'm very happy with how this concluded. You know, we both concluded that because I'm a public figure, I had a lot of pressure on me, and you had nothing to do with it, and we can now move on as friends.

[Ronnie]

Right?

[Ben]

That sounds perfect.

[Tia]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I love all the responsibility you didn't take. This was fun.

[Ben]

She's like, yes.

[Ronnie]

And now we can talk trash each other, but we just have to be honest about it. Da. And so they laugh.

[Ben]

And now a time honored tradition, which is, um, seeing someone go to the jewelers to look at rings that are way too expensive for their budget on Bravo.

[Ronnie]

Show me a $20 million ring. Good news for Kierna.

[Ben]

Okay, now let's hurry this up before I go back to my nonprofit that I work at.

Before I get that. That $2 million ring.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm not sure. So I think he has, like a private practice and this other thing, right? I mean, I'm not really sure, but he seems to have a lot of money. Money. I mean, they're all. This whole season is talking about what Greg's buying. Greg's buying a condo. Greg's buying a two million dollar ring. Greg, Greg, Greg, Greg, Greg, Greg. I just. I guess I should be more nice to poor people. Like, social work. That's where it's at. Social work. The new bitcoin. Find yourself an orphan and watch that money pile.

[Ben]

I just tried to type in Gregory, Gregory, Greg. Like, find out what he did, and Google AI, you know, pops up and they're like, kieran Stewart's boyfriend is Greg Diggs. And they showed a picture of Kieran's brother. And I was like, oh. I was like, that's a flower in the attics moment. I think I could support.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so Greg is there with the mom and the brother, and they're looking at the 2 million dollar ring. And then that's a 20.7 carat ring, which is cray cray. And then we see another one, and he's like, yeah, this might be too big for her finger, though.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So I'm gonna have to, I don't know, clear some stuff off my credit card. Okay, These are all jokes, by the way, right? I'm rich. Rich as hell.

[Ben]

What about that fifteen hundred dollar ring. Let's just look at that. Just as a joke. Wouldn't be hilarious if I got her something really cheap, but I told her it was really expensive. Let's look at the 15. You have a 1200 one by any chance?

[Ronnie]

Loves candy. Okay. Do we have any rings that are edible? Possibly. Great.

[Ben]

Very small fingers. You have any lifesavers that we could just slip right on? Nope.

[Ronnie]

So angel comes in and she's like, how. Hi, everybody. Elder Wag here. Okay. I would love to help you with the ring. You would know what ring I wanted if you just got to know me a little bit better. Okay, so.

[Ben]

So I live by the river, so just think about that. It's crazy. It's crazy because I remember me and K sitting on the couch thinking, where do you think we'll be in 10 years? And here we are 10 years later, looking at engagement rings with Ms. Shelley and you, her fiance, to be with me and Elder Wag.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Ben]

Being an NFL wife, it's so such a privilege to be able to do these sort of things. It's. It's almost surreal. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You know, I'm so glad she called me to help her because Kate is very discerning when it comes to jewelry. Not men, but jewelry. Just jewelry. Yeah, pretty much.

[Tia]

I'm gonna.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna help her out here. So Karen is. Then we see Stacy, the fight with Stacy. And Stacy's saying, well, I have a husband and a ring. And she's like, I don't want that one.

[Tia]

It's cloudier than a. I want mine crystal clear.

[Ben]

It's cloudier than a. That's such a funny thing to say. Your ring is. Cloud. Is cloudier than a.

So they're looking. Greg looks so nervous. He's like trying to smile, but he's like so nervous because he's like, oh my God, I'm on TV and everyone's gonna come down to me because I can't afford this ring and I don't even want to buy her a ring. I don't know if I even want to get married to her. You just see him being like, I don't have the money for any of this. And angel tells us Ms. Shelley had her ups and downs with Greg. And I sort of like the way my husband has had ups and downs with balls calls that he catches and throws. Sorry. Yeah. Wag humor. Sorry. You have to kind of be one of us to get it.

[Ronnie]

NFL mom. Okay. And I can use it.

So she's like, yeah, for some reason Ms. Shelley and Greg are getting along great. Oh, really? Maybe it's because Greg just bought her daughter a condo and is now pretending he's gonna spend $2 million on a ring. G can't wonder what happened with Michelle. Suddenly, Michelle is fine with Greg.

So then Michelle. Michelle's like, so, are you gonna buy her the condo as a wedding gift? And he says, yeah. And she goes, so we're moving in with the ring on the finger. Is that it? And he's like, okay, are you helping me? Are you hurting me here? What's going on? Okay, I'm pretending to buy your daughter a lot of stuff in this scene. Can we just be kind?

[Ben]

An angel's like, listen, happy wag wife. Happy wag life. So, you know, I'm looking out for you. That's one of the privileges that I'm afforded being an elder wag person, is that I can look out for the younger ones, even the non wags. It's just. It's our duty in life. So you're welcome.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So they start looking at different ones, and the salesperson's like, well, we have an emerald cut. This one has more girth. And Michelle's like, yeah, we're gonna go for the girth. And he's like, oh, God, why is everybody making me feel so small today?

So now they're looking at $125,000 rings and 180,000 doll. Greg is just like, huh, well, okay. Well, you know, before I make a purchase, I'm going to definitely have to run this past her. You know, I just. I want her to be into it. Right, guys?

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. So the only reason why I'm not buying a ring today is purely because I want Kieran to be part of this. Of course I can afford any of these rings. I'm just not going to buy one right now on camera. I'm just going to. You know. You know, I always. My mom always said, before you buy a ring, you got to go have a yogurt. So I'm going to go to the supermarket real quickly and have some yogurt, and we'll just circle back, like, maybe after the cameras are gone or. Or not ever at all. Thanks, guys, so much.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So what's the deal, do you think, with her? How did that story change so quickly from, like, the mom being over at her house being, I'm so proud of you for getting your condo, honey, and standing on your own two feet to this? Like, now Greg has bought the condo. Did. Did she buy the condo? And now he's going to pay it off. Or is this a condo that's in. I don't. I need to know more about the condo. I think care about the relationships on this show. I want to know about the real estate state.

[Ben]

I think yo sat down Greg and her mom and said, look, I got so much from you guys last year from the audience because of you guys. You okay? This is a paycheck. If we all want to rise up, I have to do well on this show. So you two pretend to get along. Okay? Pretend to get me a ring because I need to stay on this show and I can't deal with any more of your Right.

[Ronnie]

I'm going to rent a condo and then we'll just say you got it for me or something.

[Ben]

I don't all that stuff.

[Ronnie]

Okay. So then Angel's like, wow, it's just so brave for K to course correct where Greg is concerned.

[Ben]

Wow. So brave.

[Ronnie]

Just so brave to go back to a man who shows you nothing but disrespect on tv. I mean that is bravery.

[Ben]

Elder Wag. Elder Wag here to go from chin checking to the course correcting. It's such a journey for her. So she's like, you know, we aren't spring chickens. And I tell her we are middle aged. Middle aged wax. Well, I mean I'm a wag. She's not, you know, she's. What do you call a wife? A wife of someone who has a non profit instead of a wife of football player. Is that a. A wan. Is that a wat? Is that a wan pee?

[Ronnie]

I don't.

[Ben]

We have to work on that. I'll get together with my WAG sisters and we'll figure out an acronym for her.

[Ronnie]

And the salesperson's like, oh, don't worry hon. She's going to be happy with whatever you buy her. And Michelle goes know. And he goes, oh yeah, I agree. She's going to be happy with anything I get her. I know it.

[Tia]

I know it.

[Ronnie]

And the mom is just looking like, what the. How did I even end up on a screen with these idiots?

[Ben]

Yeah, not, not up for it. Now Ashley goes to a store called Salt and Sundry with her sister Jessica, who's 17. Sweet, sweet kid. Ashley is dressed like she's going to a cocktail party. And you know her sister is just like dressed like. She just went.

[Ronnie]

She.

[Ben]

It's like after school or something like that. And I'm like, why are you so dressed up for the scene? Ashley? Did you notice that? She's like in A little pink dress, Like a little frill. Not frill, but like it sort of goes out in the bottom. I'm like, why you are dressed? You're like, she's in full glam. I'm like, you're in a can, like a candle shop with your teenage sister.

[Ronnie]

You're shopping for college. Like, you look crazy.

[Ben]

My sister's like, jeans and T shirts.

[Ronnie]

She's like, I just like minimalistic things, like a thong. Okay. Well, not. Not today, but okay. Well, it's just so exciting because, you know, I'm adulting and I find myself excited about like pots and. And glasses.

[Jazzy]

Oh, wow, that's.

[Ronnie]

Nope, nope. Still don't want to get a thong. Still. Still talking about flatware.

[Jazzy]

Okay. Bats and glasses. Have you also thought about, like a 67 year old suitor when you turn 18?

[Ben]

No.

[Jazzy]

Okay, just consider it.

[Ronnie]

So she's about to go to college and Ashley is glad she can help her family because her uncle was there for her when she needed it, and so she's blessed that she can help her sister. And so as she's like, oh, a.

[Tia]

Bathrobe would be nice, right, for your house.

[Ronnie]

And she's like, wow, that's very specific. So we're here to talk about you, obviously.

[Ben]

So she literally says that that's very specific. You know, you are my famous Miss unwealthy older sister, and the best you can do is get me a bathrobe.

[Ashley]

Thanks.

[Ben]

Thanks for taking me to salt and sundry, Whatever that means.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, we're here to talk about you. Just talk about you.

[Tia]

She's like, oh, my God. Josh and I called it quits.

[Ronnie]

It's like, yeah, right, you just saying that.

[Tia]

It's like, well, we haven't talked in two days.

[Jazzy]

Yeah, Jessica's not Josh's friend.

[Ben]

And we see like, flashback to her how Jessica does not like Josh. She's like, like, I'd be lying if.

[Jazzy]

I said I didn't miss Josh, but, like, that life is not for me. You can only do so many fake Karen Huger driving video games before you realize you want to get behind a wheel yourself.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she wants a rich dude. So she's like, you know, I'm. I'm not.

[Tia]

No, I'm not asking too much. My man is out there somewhere and I'm gonna find him. I'm just listening for the soft beeping of an oxygen machine name.

[Jazzy]

Somewhere out there, there's an old, decrepit man with leathery, wrinkled skin and mucus and flam in his Lungs.

[Ronnie]

Another one.

[Tia]

Start the song.

[Ben]

He was out there. He was out there, but not more.

[Ronnie]

So. Now she's talking about the dad and the mom is saying that there was a chance that you weren't going to be visiting and you really put your foot down about your dad and his addiction issues. And she's like, yeah, look, I put my foot down. But you know, basically they talk about how the dad is an addict and she's like, yeah, you know, I've been the one dealing with it with all these years and, and I understand that people aren't going to change overnight, but like, what are you going to do? It's addiction, you know. So she's crying.

[Ben]

It's really sad, this poor girl, 17, having to. This is such a weight on, on Kids feel so bad for her. She's crying. And Ashley, Ashley is there for. They have like a really nice hug and a cry. It's. It's so. It's really heartbreaking. And this and this. I have to say, this girl has. It seems to have a really good head on her shoulders because she seems to have like sort of a mature outlook and like an awareness of the situation. But gosh, felt bad for her.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So now we go to Eddie and Wendy setting up their dispensary. Now we're going to have dispensary battles.

[Ben]

Yeah. I have to say this is. So Eddie's doing like a popup and it's like he's in like the foyer of some small, low ceilinged clinic maybe. I was like, oh, I thought it was going to be if. When, when we see them like getting out of the car. I thought it was like, oh, they're doing a pop up at some convention or some place with lots of foot traffic. And it was actually like a very sad little setup that they had there.

[Ronnie]

I was like, it was a little dispensary. Yeah. And I love Wendy, like dressed to the nines, just looking all glamorous and doing all her shots in front of an ATM machine.

[Ben]

Yeah. So funny.

[Ronnie]

So we see that he's got a zillion products now. And they start and Wendy's like, oh my God, if I knew you'd pop the pop up like this, that come the more pop ups. And so she says the only reason she's here is because he's named one of his flowers the Nutty professor. And he's named it after Wendy. Guys.

[Ben]

Wow. So Wendy's saying, you know, one of the girls in our friendship group, she started a cannabis brand and this, this person The Bud tender is like, oh, my God, that's amazing. She's like, no, you're supposed to say, what a copycat. But you can. Let's try it again from the top.

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Ben]

Bud tender. Tender. Are they called that? Bud tenders? Is that what the thing. Really?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then Wendy's like, yeah, Stacy didn't even want me to see the inner workings of what she had going on. And then we see a flashback to their lunch, and Stacy's like, well, with.

[Tia]

Eddie's business, it might be a conflict.

[Ronnie]

Of interest to have you on site, so. Are you kidding? What are you talking about?

[Ben]

Corporate espionage.

[Ronnie]

Happy Eddie is not trying to steal from Shia, okay?

[Ben]

I know.

[Ronnie]

So Wendy's like, no, I'm not bothered that I wasn't invited. I mean, she's already stolen enough information from me. She doesn't need no more. Yeah.

[Ben]

So.

Then Stacy is. We see. Now we go to the Shire launch, and there's a door. There's a line at the door. And Stacy and AJ are walking up, and she. She's like, well, I have so much body and such a little dress. Look at me. AJ's like, oh, yeah, look. Look, there's a line over there, too. They're ready for you, baby. He's like, oh, my gosh. Guys. Hi, Dr. Carmen. So great to see you. We see this Dr. Carmen Kado, who works with it. Whatever. So Stacy starts talking to us about Shia and how it was a dream.

[Ronnie]

Something I prayed for. I would just close my eyes and I would say, God, please send me a drug empire.

[Ben]

I want to show my daughter Arabella. No matter how big the dream or how small the niche, if you want something, you can own it, and you can create a legacy that will last a lifetime. And the producer goes, do you own it?

Well, I love my partners, and I love my business partnership with Jushi. My partners are well respected, so I can't help but be successful.

[Ronnie]

So she's got two things. She's got gummies and gummies. So there's one called Rise and one called Rest.

So that's it. So then we get a filter going. The, you know, animation going to the next thing is not cherry blossoms anymore. Now it's smoke. It's like. So we go back to Wendy and we see all of Eddie's products, and he's got, like, 20. And they talk about how he named Nutty professor after her. And he goes, yeah, that's why the THC is so high. Yeah, I gotta put you down. You gotta relax, Wendy. Just relax. A little bit, babe.

[Ben]

Okay, fine. Give me the Nutty Professor. So then we go to Stacy, who's helping a customer. It's like, hi, beautiful. Are you getting the rise or the rest? She goes, rise. Well, reach out to me on Instagram. Let me know what you think. Nice to meet you. So Jazzy shows up, up, and they say hi and everything, and she's just so proud of her and everything. And even Tia shows up as well.

[Ashley]

She's like, well, I'm just trying to do the right thing. I'm going to be the bigger person and celebrate her, and then we'll figure.

[Tia]

Out our differences after.

[Ronnie]

So Wendy can't be here, but she did. Congrat. She was congratulatory. And AJ's like, very supportive. Very, very supportive, everybody. Yeah, she has been so supportive of my business. So Stacy is like, well, clearly, I don't have everyone's support, unfortunately, because Angel's not going to be there, and Ms. Giselle won't be there either. And Giselle goes, yes, I was invited. And I told her I don't want to.

[Ben]

And Kieran is like, thank you.

[Jazzy]

No, thank you.

[Ben]

So Stacy's like, but that doesn't take away from the celebration of launching a brand that's gonna be a legacy for Arabella. Tmo. Timo's not there either, by the way, because he is quote, unquote, traveling as he always is. So back over at the other one someone, the Budtenders, charging someone for $76. And Wendy. Wendy. It's Wendy.

[Ronnie]

She has to pay.

[Ben]

Wendy has to. I guess she's trying to be like. It's like when you vote for yourself on an election day, you know, like you like. But she can't remember her own pin, which at first, when it was like, invalid pin, I was like, oh, this is not good. Is this. Is this a sign of what's to come? But she remembers it and she gets. She makes her payment.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then we see a flashback to their oregano rolling party, and she's like, you know, but to see you grow oregano to actual flower, that's a testament to staying the course and listening to your consumers. And so they talk about how huge they are, and he's like, yeah, can't copycat this one. So then back at the other event, Stacy's like, oh, try. Try one. You don't have to worry about driving. They're not infused.

What does that mean? She's, why would I want your weed gummy? So I guess she's just. You can taste the flavor of it without having to taste, without getting the thc. I don't know, Maybe I have no idea. It's like just actual thc.

[Ben]

It's just Harry bow gummy bears that she's just handing out. She's like, taste it. It's delicious. Doesn't even have any weed in it. So Ashley shows up and she sees, she clocks Stacy's dress.

[Jazzy]

Cuz she's like, funny, I wore this dress like last week.

[Ben]

And we do see footage of her wearing the same dress. Which, you know, I imagine it's just like a coincidence, but it is hilarious that they do keep on catching Stacy doing all these copycat things. And we, we see the footage and she's like, oh, we have this.

[Jazzy]

I wore the same dress, we have the same style.

[Ben]

She's like, okay, Ashley, you're coming in with a mess. Let's settle down. Okay.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, girl, if you want.

[Tia]

To be me, just say that.

[Ronnie]

So now she's like, we're even wearing the same crimpy today because her hair is crimped. Yeah. And Stacy goes, I know. What's your inspiration?

[Tia]

She's like, not you.

[Ronnie]

So then we go to a flashback where Stacy is saying she got a message from Ashley and she's going to be there. And so Stacy was so happy and replied, I'm happy to see you here. And now she's like, well, I know.

[Tia]

We go back and forth, but one thing I do appreciate about us is it ultimately we can support each other. For example, you're married to a rich older white guy. So there's something we've got in common. I'm into that. Does he have any friends?

[Ben]

You know what, Ashley? That was a very lovely sentiment. And with that said, I'd like to talk to you about something in private. Private. And by private, I mean just three feet over here to the left. Okay, can we go have a fight? Thank you.

[Ronnie]

Meet me in front of the neon lights in the ATM machine.

[Tia]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, right here. In other words, two steps away. So Stacy's like, well, I want to ask you, how do you want to move forward? Because I feel like you concentrate on anything you perceive to be negative about me instead of concentrating on how we can move forward.

[Jazzy]

Well, because there's always instances that made me see you in a different light, Stacey.

[Ronnie]

Well, everything that you bring, I've proven to be false.

[Tia]

Even the thing with Monique.

[Jazzy]

Well, you tried. I mean, Monique is choosy to let it go, so. So am I. And by me letting it go, it means that I'm still holding on to it, but I'm gonna say I'm letting it go.

[Ronnie]

And also, Wendy is choosing to let it go. She doesn't have a problem with my brand. And AJ's like, what's going on over there?

Old lady's fighting about.

[Ashley]

Oh, you're wondering what I'm wondering?

[Tia]

Well, I have no qualms about your business, but I also don't want you to be a lying ass ho about it. It.

[Ben]

Oh, okay, fine.

Lying. Really?

[Tia]

Well, can you just acknowledge that?

[Ronnie]

Well, can you acknowledge that I've apologized and I'm asking you woman to woman. I need you to stop.

[Jazzy]

No, I need you to stop, too. I always start at ground zero with you, and you give me something else. So if you stop giving me something, I'll stop talking.

[Ronnie]

Isn't ground zero like a war term?

[Ben]

Yeah, I don't understand what she meant by that. I'm always start. Ground zero. I think she's saying, like, I always reset with you, and it's like it's a blank, Blank slate. But ground zero.

[Ronnie]

I bomb you, I destroy you, and then I try and start over. I don't understand the problem.

[Ben]

Well, are you gonna stop talking and allow us to start at ground zero? I don't even understand the metaphor, but I'll just go with it.

[Tia]

Well, if. If Stacy stops lying, then Ashley stops talking. That's how that works.

[Ben]

It's like some weird version of the Shining instead of, like, all work and no play makes Jack an angry boy.

[Jazzy]

It's like Stacy stops lying. Ashley stops talking.

[Ben]

It's like some spooky ghost that's just.

[Tia]

So.

[Ronnie]

She's like, okay, let's both agree.

[Tia]

No more lies, no more hazy. No more lies. No more negativity. No more lies, no more evil.

[Ben]

Except how it actually happens is that they say it at the same time as if they're, like, doing, like, rock, paper, scissors. It's like, read to you on no Brazil.

[Tia]

No more lies.

[Ben]

No more evil. No more lies, no more negative.

It was such a hilariously bizarre moment.

[Ronnie]

And Jazzy's like, whoa, those girls have been at it for weeks. I'm like, Dr. Carmen, you may have to up those percentages in the thc, honey.

[Ben]

So they both.

[Ronnie]

Jazz is just a classic.

[Ben]

Jazzy. Look, there are two things I love named jazzy. This lady and the scooters. I mean, it's a great thing to be compared to. So jazzy is actually. Those are rascals. Are they rascals or they jazz?

[Ronnie]

I think there's both okay, well, either.

[Ben]

Way, I guess they kind of agree to move forward.

[Tia]

Word.

[Ronnie]

For now. For now? Yeah. Yeah, for now. So now they're back with the other ladies, and Ashley's like, well, provided she.

[Tia]

Doesn'T keep being a lying ass hoe, we can be good.

[Ronnie]

So now they go and have some snacks. Well, they're a snack set up. They don't eat them. And Tia is still asking for water. She's been looking for water for a long time. This is not a very good dispensary. I mean, you're in Cottonmouth center control. You need water. Okay.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, I didn't.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I didn't realize.

[Ben]

I've not gotten stoned in so long that I've forgotten, like, all the basics. I'm like, really? I don't even remember that. Your mouth gets so dry. I just remember getting hungry. I remember. I don't remember that. I will say Jazzy is a type of wheelchair, electric wheelchair. Rascal is the scooter.

[Ronnie]

So for everyone wondering, aren't they the same? What do you mean? Rascal's not a wheelchair?

[Ben]

The ra. The Jazzy is more. Oh, there is actually. Oh, there is more of, like, a scooter, like an Abby Lee Miller type that is called a jazzy. I feel like a lot of the Jazzies that I'm looking at are more chair. Like. Oh, there's one that looks like a bat wing. That's bat wheel or whatever it's called. Let me look at the Rascal scooters.

I feel like the Rascals are more like scooter. Like, they really are like. Like a little. Little basket. A chair. Two wheels in the back, one in the front handles. Whereas the Jazzy looks like it's a little bit more in the wheelchair space. Four wheels or two wheels, Just three pounds.

[Ronnie]

How do you get them in and out of your car if you're disabled?

[Ben]

Yeah, the little elevator thing, I believe.

[Ronnie]

Oh, Lord. That's a. I need a five Jazzy.

[Ben]

It's really important that we do some. Make sure we. We honor the brands. Yeah. So Ashley is. Yeah, so. So now they all go to a separate room. They're like, okay, it's time to have our end of the episode fight. So we have to go into private. They go into this room. It's like a. It's like the. It's like the employee lounge or something like that. In this dispensary.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Ashley's like, okay, look, Stacy, you know, I just want you to understand that I've been on this show for 10 years. And, you know, my feet have been held to the fire, too. And that's just how we conduct ourselves. This is Real Housewives. So you are going to be questioned on stuff. And that's just it.

[Ben]

So, yes.

[Ronnie]

Be okay with it, which I think is actually decent advice. And Stacy's like, well, okay, I'm learning that. I'm just hoping there's a way we can understand each other. So I just want to say something in this moment as someone who didn't have a weed line, but suddenly does have a weed line that she never had. This conversation is great, because I think that's where we're having an example. An issue example.

[Tia]

And he's like, well, I want us to get to the bottom of it because you're pointing at me.

[Ronnie]

And she goes, okay, so I met you in the morning. You invited Timo me to dinner. He said, no, thank you. I'm traveling. So then we see the clip of that, and Stacy's like, and then I introduced you to Timo before everybody else, because that's. Because I felt like you were neutral. But then Wendy called me, and she said, why aren't you here? And I said, well, I never agreed to be there, and Timo's traveling, and you were in the background, and you said, she's full of it. And that's not true. You said I was full of it.

[Ashley]

No, no, no, no, no. You said that Timo just flew back.

[Ronnie]

Let me finish.

[Ashley]

Well, no, but that's what I. That's what I said, and you were. You were full of it. By full of it, I mean puke.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Pew.

[Tia]

Disgusting.

[Ashley]

Pupe.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So we see a flashback where obvious Stacy is clearly lying about what Teemo's doing because she doesn't want him to have to go to this dinner or whatever. So she's. So now they're just arguing back and forth like it was the truth.

[Tia]

No, it wasn't the truth.

[Ronnie]

And Stacy's like, well, I'm going to tell the truth, and if I decline dinner with you, I decline dinner. It doesn't matter why. And the issue about my comfort level with Wendy and Eddie, that was none of your business what I.

[Tia]

And she's like, well, I didn't specifically say. She said, how come you met Timo? That's. That's why I said it, because she asked me why I'd met Teemo. And she's like, can I just finish?

[Ben]

Timo has only seen them in one. Can I finish?

[Tia]

Just land the plane.

[Ben]

The plane that team was traveling on. He Just got back from. And he just took off from at the same time. Let me finish. I would like to be finished. Okay. So as I was saying, Timo has only seen a glimpse of them as in the group. And that was from a very hurtful personal moment that happened in January. See, a flashback to them basically saying that Stacy paid off TJ to be her boyfriend. And my reason for not being there has to do with Wendy and Ed.

[Tia]

Ready.

[Ben]

That's what she's saying at the reunion. So Tia's like, I'm going to tell.

[Ashley]

You why I'm upset with you, but I came to the script.

[Ben]

I had heard things that were alleged against you. And we see a flashback of Giselle, you know, telling Tia that Stacy lies.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And she's like.

[Tia]

And I gave you the benefit of the doubt. All the while she's calling me, and you need to have my back with these ladies. This and that.

[Ronnie]

I never said that.

[Tia]

Oh, yes, you did. You called me.

[Ben]

So the Stacey's like, you're a liar.

[Ashley]

Well, why are you trying to hijack this conversation, Stacey? Because you're trying to build a case.

[Ben]

Oh, go ahead.

[Ashley]

Well, if.

[Tia]

I will.

[Ashley]

If you just shut up for a second.

[Ronnie]

Oh, you are not gonna tell me to shut up.

[Ashley]

Well, as I was saying before I was rudely interrupted.

[Ronnie]

No, no, wait. Who saw? Who saw?

[Tia]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Woo.

[Ben]

Saw.

[Ronnie]

Woosa. Whatever you say. She's like, now this is the real her. She just plays prim and proper.

[Tia]

She's like, oh, I do not need to play Detroit. I am prim and proper. I've extended my manners. Now watch which side my focus on the right side of the plate.

[Ben]

That's cold.

[Tia]

Manners.

[Ben]

You didn't extend any manners. You didn't.

[Ashley]

You.

[Ben]

You acted so unladylike and.

[Tia]

Oh, you. You don't want manners, and you shan't be getting my manners. Look at me holding my knife in the left hand.

[Ben]

Suck it.

[Tia]

Suck it.

[Ben]

You want to fit in so bad. So bad, Tia.

[Tia]

Oh, you are the person that has been in this group for one year, and you still don't fit in. Oh, I said, that's right. Well, where are the manners now? What does that say about you, my love?

[Ben]

Oh, and. And J Jazz's like, you can't go swearing in her event. This is not Juneteenth Vibes. Yeah, you're a try hard, just like your fashions. Tia, this is not Juneteenth Vibes. Get your ass up out of my event.

[Tia]

No, please. I'm leaving this office break room now. I'm so sorry. Where else will I see a stack of Costco curing pods on display?

[Ben]

You want to act unladylike, then take your things and be gone. Toodle doo. I've had enough.

[Tia]

Well, I have other things to do today.

[Ben]

Get out. Toodles.

[Ronnie]

You. You.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. That was crazy. Yeah, well, that's her.

[Ronnie]

And so Tia leaves and she tells the budtenders.

[Tia]

Oh, well, I won't be buying anything from Stacy. She is trash. But you're going to Great. Have a wonderful day.

[Ben]

Does anyone want some fruit or refreshments?

[Ronnie]

Silliness.

[Ben]

Silly silliness. Well, I also like. Stacy should have let Tia have her time because, you know, Stacy was like, may I finish? May I finish? But then she interrupted Tia like, left and right. So I didn't think. I did not think that was fair. But it looks like this fight will continue on for a while. We'll see what happens.

[Ronnie]

I think also because she had her friend there. You know, she had AJ There. So he was like, you are gonna stick up for yourself. She's like, I am gonna stick up for myself. So no matter what happened, she'd be. She'd end up being like, how dare you? How dare you?

[Ben]

Yep. But fun episode.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Fun times. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. We will be back a little later with some Married to medicine action and tons of other stuff this week. So just keep. Want to come and back. We'll talk to you soon.

[Ben]

Bye.

[Ronnie]

Bye.

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