#3114 Real Housewives of Beverly Hills S15E02 Part 1: Whine, Lose, or Draw

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3114 "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills S15E02 Part 1: Whine, Lose, or Draw" (Dec 12, 2025)

Overview

In this episode, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam kick off their signature comedic, irreverent recap of "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" Season 15, Episode 2. The duo riff on Bravo culture, fixate on the show’s signature hypocrisies, and obsess over housewife minutiae—from closeted relationship rumors to questionable home décor choices. Their banter is equal parts shade and affection for the ridiculousness of it all, and they’re not afraid to go deep on topics like queer visibility, the decline of West Hollywood’s gay culture, and the audacity of $2,800 decanters on wedding registries.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Housewives on Planes: Todd Sighting and Bravo Fan Responsibilities

• Ben recounts his brother’s run-in with Bronwyn’s Todd on a flight through Salt Lake City—seating etiquette and seat-pulling drama included.
• Ben (05:26): “Of course Todd is a seat puller. It just says everything about this guy.”
• Ronnie jokes about the need to train friends to collect real intel, not just selfies, when they encounter Bravo-lebrities.

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2. Season 15 Early Vibe: Kyle’s Victim Narrative & “Closetedness” Discourse

• Ronnie and Ben express skepticism about the narrative arc for this season, predicting another round of Kyle-centric drama and her evolving “victimhood.”
• The duo dives into the subject of Kyle’s ambiguous relationship with Morgan, frustrations with Kyle’s coyness, and the “gay panic” double standard.
  • Ronnie (09:07): “We’re off to the races with how Kyle is a victim this season... a little victim this time.”
  • The hosts agree Kyle has weaponized “open and honest” to call out others, but then remained elusive about her own situation.
    • Ben (16:26): “It is the hypocrisy of Kyle and the way she treats other people who try to similarly protect their peace and protect their partners.”
  • Ben specifically recalls the Denise/Brandy storyline as an example of the show’s uneven treatment of rumors and realities surrounding sexuality.

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3. Hypocrisy Recap: Housewives and Privacy

• Discussion expands to housewives' selective privacy and what the audience expects.
  • Erika, too, is dating, but hasn’t brought her partner on-screen yet.
  • Ben: “It’s getting kind of annoying. You’re asking us to watch a show for the 12th year. But you’re giving us the laundry list of shit you’re not going to share.”
• Ronnie on Kyle’s fashion mimicry moves: “She comes on with this woman’s hair and her look... Now you’re gonna cosplay as Morgan while you tell us all not to talk about Morgan?”

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4. Rachel and Bose—Contrast in Personalities

• The recap begins with a scene featuring Rachel Zoe and her friend Bose, contrasting Rachel’s anxious, people-pleasing demeanor with Bose’s boldness.
  • Rachel (20:56): “She’s scared of nothing and I’m, like, scared of everything. Like, it’s bananas.”
• Rachel opens up about the trauma of divorce and living on eggshells around her ex.
• They discuss Kyle’s public/private relationship dance and the impact on their friend group dynamic.

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5. Kyle & Mauricio: Parallel Dating Worlds and Double Standards

• Scene takes viewers to Mauricio’s new bachelor pad, highlighting their awkward co-parenting, property division, and approach to post-separation dating.
  • Kyle harps on being discreet/private, but the hosts needle her performative “not a parade” parade.
  • Ben (28:37): “I just feel the need to parade it around and pretend like it’s not a parade...”

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6. Erika & Sutton at the Spa: Sympathy for the Devil?

• A classic RHOBH moment: Sutton and Erika share a spa day, exchanging mutual trauma over their respective divorces.
  • Sutton’s skepticism about Erika’s victim narrative lingers.
  • Erika delivers her infamous deadpan: “I just kind of hoped he [Tom] died before he went to prison so that way he’d just get over with.” (34:52)
• Ronnie/Ben dissect the ethics, emotional fallout, and performance aspects of Erika’s travails.

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7. Dorit’s Family Dynamics & Financial Stress

• Dorit’s parents visit, giving insight into her struggles with PK’s disengagement from household finances and parenting.
  • Dorit: “PK doesn’t give me any money. He expects me to pay the bills. And he believes he’s doing enough.”
• The hosts also note Bravo’s sometimes mismatched subtitles vs. actual dialogue regarding financial responsibilities.

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8. Wedding Registry Rant: Gary’s, Birkin Bags, & Rich People Stuff

• Kyle and Alexia’s visit to emulate family “tradition” by wedding registering at Gary’s becomes a major comedic set piece.
  • Ben (48:51): “Looking at it, kind of like older, older people stuff.”
  • Both hosts are baffled by both the cost and taste of the wares ("if you’re 29 and you’re gonna get this stuff... I was just sad for Alexia’s future"), but admit their own aspirational/bougie tendencies.
  • Ronnie on Amanda’s entry (the buyer of Kyle’s former home): “Her only personality trait so far seems to be: is she wearing Invisalign or not?”

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9. Amanda Francis & the Grift of Manifestation Culture

• The group skewers Amanda Francis—wealth coach/self-help personality, RHOBH newbie, and Bride-to-be—while scrolling her pricey online courses and “affirmation cup.”
  • Ronnie (67:51): “This is so blatantly a scam. I actually love it. This is the biggest scam since Drop it with Drew… You’re gonna come to a hotel ballroom and sit here, I’m gonna take your money, and you will not be changed whatsoever.”
• Notable: They recite, in full, the affirmation printed on Amanda’s signature drinking glass for comedic effect.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On confronting “seat pullers” on planes:
  • Ben (06:45): “He’s probably like, if he had hair, he’d be one of those people who luxuriated his hair over the seat back into your seat.”
• Kyle’s hypocrisy on privacy:
  • Ronnie (15:26): “At the end of the day, the issue is Kyle. It’s not the gayness. It’s not the closetedness. It’s Kyle choosing to share things or not share things and lying… while she’s lecturing everybody else.”
• “Open and honest” baggage:
  • Ben (16:26): “She literally ran people off the show [for not being open and honest]… and here she suddenly was willing to see shades of gray of what open and honest could mean.”
• Erika’s gallows humor:
  • Erika (34:52): “I just kind of hoped he died before he went to prison so that way he just get over with.”
  • Ronnie (35:05): “Hope you die today so I don’t have to deal with you tomorrow. You sick…"
• Wedding registry culture shock:
  • Ben (48:51): “Just because that’s a high price tag and sure, it’s probably very high quality stuff… but, ugh. I just was sad for Alexia’s future when I saw this stuff.”
• On “Manifestation” self-help grifters:
  • Ronnie (67:51): “This is so blatantly a scam. I actually love it. This is the biggest scam since Drop it with Drew.”
  • Ben & Ronnie (69:46): Reading the lengthy, grandiose “I’m in the vibe” glass affirmation for laughs.

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Important Timestamps

• Kyle’s hypocrisy and the “closeted narrative”: 09:00 – 19:19
• Rachel & Bose opening scene (divorce, trust, conflict): 20:26 – 25:42
• Kyle & Mauricio awkwardness / “not a parade”: 26:17 – 29:14
• Erika & Sutton spa day, Tom’s legacy: 30:00 – 41:46
• Dorit’s financial woes with PK & parents’ support: 42:20 – 46:08
• Wedding registry rant—Gary’s scene: 46:15 – 50:46
• Amanda enters the storyline, manifestation coach: 51:35 – 65:27
• Manifestation product and online course grifting: 65:55 – 71:18

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Episode Tone & Highlights

• The hosts veer from playful shade to genuine social critique, keeping the roast both loving and ferocious.
• Regular motif: skewering the “old money” affectations of both the cast (in décor, Birkin bags, wedding traditions) and Bravo culture at large.
• Signature recurring bits:
  • The “In this town…” opening tagline riff (58:33)
  • Lengthy, mocking explorations of Bravo outsider self-promoters (Amanda Francis, Drop It With Drew)
• Frequent callback humor: the existential sadness of hotel ballrooms, the futility of Housewives’ “privacy” on a TV show, and Bravo-husbands’ ongoing shadiness.

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Memorable Moment

Amanda Francis’s Grift Glass Recital (69:46):
The entire “I’m in the vibe” affirmation speech, lampooned as emblematic of wellness/self-help grifting.

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Summary

This episode is classic Watch What Crappens: a blend of deep Bravo-nerd analysis and biting, improv-y comedy. Ben and Ronnie connect this week’s RHOBH events with broader Bravo history, Housewives social politics, and the absurdity of luxury culture. The main throughline is the never-ending hypocrisy parade—especially regarding Kyle’s privacy-vs-presentation conundrum—with side routes through wellness scams, family tradition, and the sometimes pitiful world of post-divorce Housewives. Listeners are left both laughing and thinking, with plenty of inside jokes to fuel their next episode binge.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Mm. Mm. Wow.

[B]

Wow. Down, dog. Okay. Okay, Heather, I'm so glad we're taking this yoga class together.

[A]

As a sisterhood, it is our duty to not just show up for a downward dog, but be an upward prediction presence for all of each other.

[B]

Okay, touch. Touch your toes. Okay, we're going down. We're going down. Okay. It's a little hard to do this. Could someone have told me not to wear an inflatable dinosaur today? Because that's making this a little bit difficult to reach my. My toes.

[A]

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[B]

What are you saying, Heather? What are you saying? Are you saying you would prefer me without my dinosaur costume? Well, I'm sorry, but I use these because I have trauma, and I'm just trying to make my husband happy at an airport. Well, excuse me for living, Heather.

[A]

I'm just trying to relax with my yoga. So if anyone doesn't mind, I will be distributing some copies of Bad Mormon to everyone to use as yoga blocks. Okay? Please enjoy.

[B]

Oh, so now I'm a bad Mormon. Now I'm a bad Mormon. Oh, that's great. That's great. Oh, I suppose I'm a fraud and a con as well. Okay. Okay, great. Oh, what are you leaking? What are you leaking, Heather? Are you leaking my information?

[A]

I am doing nothing of the sort. This is a sisterhood, and really, all that I am concerned of is making sure I can stand on one leg in this beautiful yoga class. And I'm just going to meditate. Receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots, everything.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Guess what happens when there's so much. That happens. Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and and joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie, how are you?

[B]

Good. How are you doing, baby?

[A]

I'm great. I'm just glad that your name is not Todd because otherwise we may be going through a divorce because the Todd's on Bravo. They are not. Not lasting. Not lasting at all. Wow. Did you see?

[B]

Yeah. Rough time to be a toddler.

[A]

Yeah, rough time to be a toddler. I have to say my. I got a text from my brother a few nights ago and he was flying through Salt Lake City. He was connecting and he texted me, he said, hey, this guy is sitting behind me on the plane. And it was like a picture of Todd, like Todd Bronwyn's Todd. And I of course lost my mind. I think I sent you a screenshot right away. And I was like, oh, my God, oh my God, oh my God. And of course my brother had no idea really who he was. But like, but like his girlfriend recognized toddler, so he was like, yeah, there's this guy. And, and, and then like about half an hour later, my brother was like, every time he gets up to go to the bathroom. He grabs the back of my seat and uses it for leverage instead of using the armrest. He's like, I'm gonna fucking kill this guy. I was like, of course Todd is one of those people like, of course Todd grabs a chair. So my brother was like, I'm just gonna recline right into him. He like, he'd put his chair down. I was like, you do it, Dan. I was so happy for him. But that was some great, great reporting from my brother in disguise. And I'm like, I'm just like so mad. I'm so mad that Todd does that. And yet I'm so unsurprised. Of course he's a seat puller.

[B]

Yeah, but why isn't Bronwyn sticking up for Meredith then? Because that's what Meredith did when she was shaking Britney's chair. I'm convinced of it. Damn it. Your brother. I need more from your brother. Okay? I mean, I like that information, but I was texting you. You need to tell him to ask some, what the hell, are you getting divorced? Or like pass by him and see what he's looking at on his iPad, you know? I know.

[A]

I was like, that's. That's the shame of it. If Dan were sitting behind him, he could have looked at all the girls that Todd was probably flirting with. But alas.

[B]

Yeah, that's the thing. And it's such a waste when non Bravo people get. Get in that situation because they're like, haha. Behind a Bravo person. They text all the Bravo people, but they do nothing of worth. You know, Like, I need you to do some recon. You are there.

[A]

You.

[B]

You don't understand. This is a huge ch. Like, we train our friends. Bravo watchers need to train our friends how to deal with situations like this. Like, I don't need a selfie of you in the person. I need you to get the dirt.

[A]

Well, I think the seat pulling was a pretty damning piece of dirt, I have to say, because it really speaks volumes. I mean, it just, it says everything, everything about this guy. Right? Like, we should have just always known that that was his, that was his MO in life is to grab onto your seat and pull you down so that way he can get up and pee somewhere.

[B]

Yeah, he's probably like, if he had hair, he'd be one of those people who like luxuriated his hair over the seat back into your seat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I will pull those people's hair. I won't pull it. I won't pull it with my Hands. But I will put my iPad up against it very hard and be like, oh, sorry, I was home. Sorry. Did that hurt? I was just trying to watch my film on my seat that I paid for. You freaking hips. Seriously, get your stringy hair out of my seat.

[A]

It's shocking that people do that. It's like it's, it's actually shocking that people cascade their hair down into like my seating area and like it can get into my drink, you know, if it's long enough.

[B]

Yeah. It can also get into my iPad. Creases. There are no creases. I'll close the iPad cover on it. That's what I'll do. The magnetic cover. And then just like, oh, putting in my backpack.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sorry. Does that hurt? Wash your hair.

[A]

I feel like I'm going to start like carrying painters tape or something. And so that way next time that happens I'm just going to take some tape and tape the hair to the seat. So then when they try to get.

[B]

Up they're like, well, that's assault. So see you have to do things in a tricky way because you can't assault somebody. But my iPad. Didn't know. I mean I was just resting my iPad. You see, you have to be tricky about it.

[A]

What if I attach the tape and those little tape loops or get some double sided tape, attach it to the seat first and then when they cascade their hair down, their hair attaches to it and then that's not assault. They just landed. They assaulted the tape.

[B]

It just started on fire. How about that? How about I just bring a lighter on the plane? All right. Anyway, the point is we're here today for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap. Monday at 4pm Pacific Time is our Amazon live time. So we'll be doing that also this Monday will be our final crappy hour of the month of the year. It's going to be at 5:30 Pacific Time. So join us for that. You can find links for both of those things over on our Instagram in our link in bio section. And today is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 episode. Episode 2. Is this episode 2? Oh God. We've got a long season ahead of us.

[A]

Episode two, long season.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Well, we're off to the races again. Well with this show.

[B]

We're off to the races with how Kyle is a victim this season. I'm a little victim this time. So let's, let's go to it. What are you concerned about this show?

[A]

I don't know. I know it's early it's early, but I'm like, is this. What. Is this what the season's gonna be like?

[B]

It's not rollicking start, that's for sure. No, I'm still, you know, I still was giggling and enjoying, you know, enjoying it, and I still love to talk about it. But, yeah, it's definitely a valid concern because. Yeah, yeah, it's just a lot of the same, you know, it's Kyle still wallowing in whatever this is, whatever she's doing or whatever it is. The whole, like, closeted gay dating star, whatever they're doing. Like, I get it, but it's also 2025, and I'm so. I'm annoyed on so many fronts because I'm annoyed that we live in a world where you would still find the need to be closeted, but we do live in that world, so I'm not going to take that away from Morgan or Kyle or anybody else who's in the closet. It is a huge thing to contend with. It's not like you just come out of the closet and like, oh, that's it. You're just another gay, and that's it. Your whole life does kind of become that. You know, you're the gay friend, you're the gay uncle, you're the whatever. Whenever there's a conversation about gayness, you're the one who has to speak on it in your fan. You know, there is a lot that comes with it. There is still a lot of hate and a lot of bigotry and stuff like that. I don't know why I'm going on a whole monologue about it, but I get. I get the closeted aspect of it. The other part of me is like, but you are the one that brought it on this show and made it a thing nobody else did. You're the one who brought it on and made that music video, fed her your. You know, did your. Feeding each other at your. Your friend's memorial service, which was highly inappropriate, that whole scene anyway, so part of me, it's like, why do I have to watch you cry about it? You know what I mean? Like, there are people dealing with real issues.

[A]

Yeah, I. I actually 100 agree. I kind of feel like, like, we. We obviously don't have any issue with being closeted in terms of, like, we understand it. Right. But it was actually like a weird. It was the. The way that she was so coy that whole season about it all. Maybe, maybe not. But she was also bringing it around, but then, like, was being elusive about it. And then it's gonna come on the episode here and kind of, like, blame Morgan for it. And I just am like, Morgan, it's. It's one thing to say I'm with someone that doesn't want to be in the public eye and is uncomfortable with it. Sure, fine. We've seen that a million times on Bravo. But then it doesn't really explain, like, this feeling that we had during that season where Kyle seemed to be really enjoying the benefits of being kind of like, in this, what at that time felt like queer adjacent space, but then, like, not actually being part of it. I don't know. It was. It was a. I don't. I don't know if her explanation today fully, like, lets her off the hook. I appreciate her. I appreciate her for finally addressing it in that way. But also, like, you can't blame it all on Morgan, you know?

[B]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's. Yeah, I. The whole thing is just a little. And also, like, you can't do this whole thing about Morgan and then come on screen dressed exactly like Morgan. Like, did you notice that look when she was in the tie? Hold on, I got a picture.

[A]

You mean Lisa Vanderpump?

[B]

Well, like, the. I mean, she's like, going, I think full on gay girl, right? She's like, lesbian. I actually really, like, I think gay. I think gay women were doing that before Lisa Vanderpump.

[A]

But no, but just in the. In the.

[B]

If it was a belly.

[A]

In a long timeline. In the long timeline of Kyle dress of Kyle taking from Lisa Vanderpump. Here's another. Another moment, however. I actually, actually thought it looks really good on Kyle.

[B]

It does look really good. But my point is. My point is that she shows up like, you know, she steals everyone's look. She comes on dressed like Lisa Vanderpump all the time. Like you just mentioned, she's like a copier. And she came on with this woman's hair and her look. That's the first picture when I looked it up. Like, look at that. That's the exact same hair even. I mean, the color is different because Kyle has a different color hair. But I was like, okay, so now you're gon cosplay as Morgan while you tell us all not to talk about Morgan. Like, give me a fucking break, Kyle. I just. There's only so much I can take, you know? And I know that goes close to being insensitive to people who listen. I'm a gay person. I support gay, gay men and women and everybody. I support my whole Community. Okay. But there comes a point where it's like, okay, but you're also baiting us at the same time. So you need to kind of pick a lane here, lady.

[A]

Well, the good news is I am glad that she has picked her lane finally. And she's, you know, and she is being more open and honest about it. But is she, though?

[B]

Yeah, she's. Now she's saying they're broken up, but I don't know that. Are they broken up? Like, I just don't believe. I don't believe anything else.

[A]

I don't know. I just. I don't. I think there's a difference between wanting to respect your partner's privacy and also, like, you can still be honest with your, like, with yourself at the same time. I. I do appreciate, like, if you are on this journey and you're not quite comfortable, you know, like, with yourself on it, etc, but sort of like you said, she kind of brought it on to the show. She was like. She was. You know, before there was Mauricio, you know, in the lob of, like, every single hotel lobby in Los Angeles, there was Kyle, Kyle and Morgan and like, every single guest.

[B]

That's the other thing. That's the other thing. Because it's not only the gay thing. It's the whole Mauricio thing as well. It's like you're the one who was kind of cheating on your husband with this lady publicly and bringing that. I mean, so then why am I crying for you? At the same time, it's just basically a Kyle conundrum. You know what I mean? And it's. Now it's mixed up with homosexuality and all this other stuff. But at the. At the. On the whole, the issue is Kyle. It's not the gayness. It's not the closetedness. It's the Kyle choosing to share things or not share things and lying about things and misrepresenting things while she's lecturing everybody else and screaming at everybody else. Open and honest. And this and that, which she mentions today. Like, I'm the one who's always saying, open and honest. Honest. But I just can this situation because I respect the gay community. It's like, okay, but stop.

[A]

But the thing is this face. Then, you know, I. I guess for me, what. What is frustrating is that she really. She really has literally run people off the show for not being, quote, unquote, open and honest.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And here she suddenly was willing to see shades of gray of what open and honest could suddenly mean. When, I mean, I always Go back to the Denise and Brandy thing. She really invoked a lot of gay panic in that entire storyline and sent Denise, you know, running. I mean, Denise has the master of her own choices, right? But ultimately, like, it was a little bit of a witch hunt and. And sort of whipped everyone up into a frenzy about that. And I also kind of feel like, honestly, if Kyle had just said, yeah, I'm seeing. I'm seeing a lady now, I think it would have been met with like, oh, okay, like, maybe a shrug. Maybe. Maybe some people would have said, well, maybe some people would have said, like, oh, you're doing it for attention, whatever. But, like, it was the. It was actually the. The continued, like, oh, elusiveness. Elusiveness of. Of her and the way she's being coy about it. Like, what? No, I mean, I don't know what. Look.

[B]

What.

[A]

We just got tattoos, but it's just, like. It's not. It's not an M. It's a W that stands for a woman or whatever it was. And I just. I think that's what's, like, very frustrating. It is the hypocrisy of Kyle and the way she treats other people who try to similarly protect their peace and protect their partners. And then the way she was so, you know, like, what was clutching her pearls that anyone would, you know, ask her questions and got to the point where she actually told the entire cast, you're not allowed to even invoke her name, which was all of last season.

[B]

And then.

[A]

Yes, and then we have to.

[B]

Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

[A]

No, and then. And then we're supposed to, like, praise her for finally being open, honest. It's kind of like, well, I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, I think she could have avoided this by saying, listen, I'm. My husband has put me through all kinds of shit over the years. And because we still don't even know what happened there. Did he cheat? Did he not cheat? She insinuates things, but we never know. So, okay, so my husband treated me in a way I didn't. Like, we're separating. I'm exploring my sexuality, I'm dating people, but it's no one serious yet. And I'm not ready to talk about it. The end. But instead it became this whole, how dare you even ask me? You know, you're not allowed to ask people in the gay community. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She made it about that. And that's what's starting to piss me off, because the people in the gay community have enough shit to deal with without you Using it for fodder and for, you know, attention. It's annoying. It's annoying. But granted, I'm annoyed by Kyle anyway, so I also have to admit that that comes from a deeply rooted 12 year long or 11 year long? Cause I loved her first season kind of TV grudge, a parasocial grudge. So.

[A]

Right. I mean, again, I. Despite my complaints, I. I am appreciative that she has now gotten to a place where she can be like, okay, this is the situation, but she still can't, even if I remember correctly. And we'll see when we get through the notes. I don't think she's even able to state that it was a woman she was in a relationship with.

[B]

I think she doesn't need any pronouns.

[A]

Saying this person, this person, this person. So she's still being really vague. And I guess that's what's so frustrating about me. I think. I know she, in her mind is like, I'm being protective, but actually you're. You're just once again obfuscating a situation. And it's like, it can be frustrating. It can be frustrating when she is the one who carries this banner and like. And truthfully, like a housewife that decides to, like, dabble, quote, unquote, dabble in the lady pond. I mean, this is not. This is not new territory for us, okay? We've Kim Zolcy acted, dated DJ what's her face years and years ago. So, like, you know, we don't have to be. We don't have to be coddled in this situation.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, there's that. I think I've got like a popcorn kernel stuck somewhere in my mouth, but I can't find it. So that's probably Kyle's fault. Damn it. I know it's there somewhere. I'm sorry, everybody. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. Let's start at the beginning. I'm sure we'll have a whole year to bitch about this. But also, Kyle's not the only one. Erica's dating somebody. She hasn't brought him on yet. I think she'll bring him on later. Did they show him on screen at one point? Maybe in the preview or something? I got it, by the way. So people, it's not like it's new on this show that people don't want to share, you know, but as a whole, it's getting kind of annoying. It's like you're asking us to watch a show for the 12th year. But then you're giving us the laundry reasons of shit you're not going to share. Share and, like, sad excuses why you're not going to share them. Stop it. Open and honest. All right, let's get into it, shall we? We open at Rachel's house. She's talking to Kayas because I think the other one maybe doesn't want to be on screen. It's all Caius all the time. Any kind of cereal?

[A]

Yeah, he's not. No, thankfully. The mouth. Nothing is flowing out of this mouth. Nothing is spraying everywhere. Caius has to go to camp. He has to go to camp. Is he gonna go away at a sleepaway camp? So it's like bananas where Caius has to go.

[B]

Yeah. So Bose comes in and we get the usual. You're gorgeous now. You're gorgeous. No, you're gorgeous. And she's like, I love Buzz's energy. I love her positivity. I love her fearlessness.

[A]

We are such an odd pairing in, like, so many ways because, like, we are, like, so opposite in, like, the way we approach things. Like, she's scared of nothing and I'm, like, scared of, like, literally everything. Like, it's bananas. I'm, like, scared. Like, when I say I die, it's because I'm afraid of dying. I have a real fear of hurting someone's feelings, which does hurt me sometimes. Like, because, you know, like, because I should hurt people's feelings sometimes. Like, including my ex.

[B]

So they're catching up. And this is so funny to me, but Bose goes, so, how's life? And she goes, paralyzing. It's, like, paralyzing sometimes. But also it's refreshing because, like, I make decisions now, and I don't need to wait for some man to make decisions for me. Like, I mean, it's wild. It's, like, literally wild. I died. I literally died telling you that. But, like, paralyzed, by the way. Could you feed me with a straw? Like, it's hard. It's hard.

[A]

Lift my wrists. I was, like, living in an anxious state with, like, shields up all the time. I don't know how. I don't have walls. Walls are, like, so 2009. I have shields to a point where, like, I feel like I was walking on eggshells. About things that, like, we're like, can you put, like, my carry on in the overhead? Like, you know, things like that. And, like, I can't lift it. And I felt like I was being annoying because it was like, Jekyll and Hyde.

[B]

Look, honey, here we are on A plane? No, I don't have to put your. Your suitcase in the carry on again. All right? Let's just have a nice ride together. I'm just. I just love her version of Jekyll and Hydra side. One minute he's okay with putting my suitcase in the carry on in the carry on slot. The next minute he's not like, who even are you right now? You know what I mean?

[A]

But I can also totally imagine Raj being super pissy about carry On. I can imagine being like, rach, you always pack so much. I can see him being a real dick about it. So Bo's like, speaking of that, I thought it was interesting when we started having the conversation about the photos that have been circling and all that. And I don't know that I got your opinion, but, like, if I saw your ex in the press kissing somebody, how would you feel about that? Or if you saw your ex even worse.

[B]

And she says, well, I did. And Bose is like.

[A]

Yeah, level of.

[B]

Shock at everything in this episode.

[A]

She's like, yeah, it's funny because, like, no one really cared. It came out in the Daily Mail and it was like, really funny because, like, people, like saw it, were like, oh, cool. But they weren't like, oh, wow. They're just like, oh, cool. So they, like, moved on. So it was like, weird, but it was like, cool.

[B]

Yeah. Please remember that I have kids that are 14 and 11. Okay. And for me, a lot of it is like, I mean, are you okay? Are you unwell? Like, what the are you thinking about? I mean, I can't imagine anything more indiscreet than being photographed on the sidewalks of Los Angeles with your arm around your girlfriend that nobody even knows about. I mean, that was the thing. It's like, not only are you dating somebody, you're dating somebody non famous in Los Angeles. That is embarrassing. Kais has to go to sleepaway camp.

[A]

Yeah. Like, what about your businesses? What about your team? What about our investors? What about our companies? What about our kids? I'm like, I love that kids was at the end of that list. Businesses, team, investors, company. And like, Kyle, like, what about Kyle's?

[B]

Yeah, I don't understand their business structure, but why do investors care if your husband's dating somebody, but they don't care at all?

[A]

Yeah, probably the scandal. Maybe scandal could be bad for the brand.

[B]

Yeah, but it's a good episode for Kyle because she's like, what about our company? Our kids? I mean, hide, hide. So she's like, yeah, but you know, like, I didn't understand. And it really did upset me, you know? And Kyle's like, well, I just haven't dated. When I said you were dating, she was like, no. And post goes. And you were like, whoa. Yeah, I was like, whoa. So, by the way, like, it's okay. Like, you're. Maybe she's not ready, but, like, ever, like, are you gonna date ever? Like, what the hell?

[A]

Regardless of who Kyle's seeing, the truth about the fact that you're seeing somebody or exploring other options could be a safe space for us to discuss versus a total shutdown. And then the wall that says, no, I'm not doing anything. And then it's like, I'm sorry, are we friends or are we not? Totes. Because there's, like, speculation about what's going on. Kyle, is she dating somebody? Is she not? Is she trying to get back with Mauricio? Is she not? And I think people have asked her that, like, question, but Kyle is out there dodging them like the damn matrix.

[B]

So it's a damn shame Bows and Garcelle didn't get along better or they didn't hit it off right from the start because they would have been a good team because Garcelle's gone and Bose is like, okay, I will take up your mantle. Thank you very much. I will continue coming after Kyle about who she's dating.

[A]

Yeah. So Bose is like, that's why I'm just like, look, if we don't want to break that barrier, that's fine with me. But let me know so I can spend my energy. Energy elsewhere. Toilets. That was so good. So now we go to Mauricio's house. Kyle shows up, and he's got this, like, you know, mid century house up in the hills and everything. And she's like, wow, this is, like, beautiful. Like, you acted like you're living in the slums. He's like, no, no, I never said I was, like, living in the slums. Just, like, I just have, like, a tiny little, you know, starter house. That's it. Just this, you know, $1 million house. It's basically like a shack. That's it.

[B]

Oh, why do you think I need so many towels? Why are you bringing me, like, eight more towels, Kyle? She's like, by the way, these towels are for our daughters, not for any of the skanky hoes that I've seen you with. Okay. So they had agreed that he was going to lease a place for six months, and then they would have a discussion about their relationship after. But he went straight from that place and then leased a house without even talking to Kyle. So what the hell? She's like, we didn't even have the conversation about potentially fixing up things in the future.

[A]

I was like, that was supposed to be a storyline this season. Hello.

[B]

You've been pretty steadily dating somebody for a while. This is. This is the other thing that's making me crazy. Like, you've been dating someone for a while. Why is it, like, poor, sad Kyle who might have had a chance to put it back together with Mauricio? I don't get it.

[A]

Yeah. So Kyle's like, did the girl sees you about the photos that came out? Just kidding. I already know what they said. I could just say it, though. Mauricio's like, yeah, there was, like, a little bit of teasing. I mean, they told me that I'm in my hostage. Yeah, that was so funny. The hostage. Six, seven. Am I right? Sorry, it's just what the kids say. Okay, well, this place looks like it's on fleek.

[B]

So he asks if she's gone on any dates, and she's like. Like, she gives him this look, like, how dare you? You know, I'm not gonna talk about this on camera. And she's like, well, I mean, no, no. I mean, I'm single. And he goes, yeah, but that's why you're allowed to go on dates. She's like, well, I haven't gone on dates, and, I mean, I would not be in a situation like you.

[A]

You.

[B]

Sorry to say. He's like, you never know. You know, you get it going on. You got the passion, the whole thing. Wow. She's like, I'm. Yeah, shut up.

[A]

Yeah, but, like, when you're saying that, like, you're also referencing yourself, and I just, like, don't need to hear that. Mauricio. He's like, okay, fair enough. So she's like, yes, I have dated since Mo and I have. You know. And, you know, I have dated since Mo and I have separated. And. But I can also be private and discreet. And unlike Mo, we don't need to see that of each other, and our kids don't need to see that. And I don't feel the need to parade around showing it off. I just feel the need to parade it around and pretend like it's not a parade. It's actually just, like, people all in the street moving at the same rate, and there happens to be a float in the street, but it's not a parade, and that's my prerogative.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I think when you Separate. You're allowed to see other people. I'm not really getting this. I mean, I. I know she's saying that, too. She just doesn't want to see it in the press. But, I mean, you're famous, and you also call them all the time. So Mauricio's like, so, how are you? And she says she had the girls over for a party, and Dorit was talking about how she was really mad about. About the PK photos, and that she basically blamed it on Mauricio because PK was inspired by Mauricio's photos. And he's like, well, that sounds, like, so ludicrous to me. And she's like, yeah, but, like, she seems, like, angry.

[A]

At him. No, no, Mauricio. She's angry at ups. Of course at him. Like.

[B]

And he's like, well, that's a vibe I get from her about, like, he's not angry at all, you know? Well, yeah, of course he's not, because he's banging.

[A]

Banging randos at the ballet.

[B]

He's the one that left her and has been banging randos and just left home and doesn't have to take care of kids or do anything. Of course he's not mad. Why would he be? Yeah, he gets everything.

[A]

Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah. Like, based on my perception, she's got a little bit of a fantasy of what the reality actually is, you know? So now we go to Erica.

[B]

What does that mean? Oh, she's got a little bit of a fantasy of what the reality is. Stop speaking in, Kyle. Sir, what does that. What does that sentence even mean?

[A]

He's saying that she's deluded. That's what he's saying. He's saying that she has, like, her own version of reality. He's trying to be very polite about saying, like, she's cuckoo for coconuts. That's what he said, because he's taking up for the guy guy. So now Erica and Sutton go to a. Go to a spa. And it's hilarious, because this spa is just, like, right on Melrose Avenue. It's, like, right next to Lala's, which is, like, you know, cute, little Argentinian restaurant that people know, people in the neighborhood know. And it's just funny because it's, like, not a Beverly Hills kind of restaurant or stretch. And I just was shocked that they did not capture Sutton, like, getting out of her Uber and be like, oh, oh, dear. Oh, this is. Oh, this is Melrose Avenue. Okay. Am I going to be safe here? Oh, there's a man on A skateboard. Okay, run. Everyone get inside. Lock the doors. MAN ON skateboard.

[B]

Well, she did look highly uncomfortable coming in there. She did not look comfortable. She was, like, looking around like, where the are we? Of course, this is an Erica scene you're bringing me to, you know, Fallujah or whatever. She's just like, where even are we? They're lucky that Heather Dubrow didn't pass by after Gramley's class. Like, hello, ladies.

[A]

Are you going to go going to LA LA's afterwards? Me neither.

[B]

So they tell each other how cute they are, of course. And Son's like, well, Eric and I have been through a lot in the past few years, and, you know, she's invited me for a spa day. So it's just me and Erica. I am expecting just a hose, some white rain, but I'm here, I'm here.

[A]

Erica's like, yeah, this is Erica extending an olive branch. Take it. Although it's also Erica pranking son because the building next door is a restaurant called It's all about the Bread. That's not even a joke. That's really what it's called. It's a very triggering sign for us ladies on Beverly Hills Story. That is actually the biggest affront is that the restaurant on the other side of this place is called It's all about the Bread. Because that's. Those are fighting words for this cast, you know.

[B]

But that's also very la, that. That Crunch fitness used to be right across from the McDonald's. And whenever I first moved to LA and I was on those stair climbers, they looked out right over the McDonald's. LA is evil like that. They do show, like, purpose.

[A]

Yeah. So Erica is extending an olive branch at this place where they're gonna get facials. And so she's like, did you have fun yesterday? You and Dorit got along, I noticed. And she's like, oh, yeah. I just wanted her to. I just want to allow her some grace from being a crazy person. And Erica's like, yeah, I think she'd really like that. I can almost feel her energy a little bit. So much so I almost started speaking with a British accent, which was a little bit crazy.

[B]

I just feel her. I feel her deep inside me. You know, I almost asked somebody for $5 yesterday for no reason.

[A]

Just a poor.

[B]

This is also.

[A]

I almost put $30,000 in a. In a. In a. In a cart and just walked around a poor person store it until I got robbed. That's how much I was feeling her.

[B]

And then called it five different stores every time I told the story. Anyway, those were good times. So Erica. This is a classic Erica scene where she gets together with Sutton and pretends to be Sutton's friend right before she fucks her over. It happens. It's happened like three or four seasons. I think it's so funny that Sutton falls for it every single time. Eric does not like you, okay? She's gonna take whatever you tell her. She's gonna bait you into saying something and then she's gonna turn on you, you dummy. So Sutton talks about how she went through her divorce. She was just surprised at every turn. And yet I was a mother still maintaining that kind of stability at home. So I want to be more open minded and open hearted with Dorit because I know that she's going through a really tough time and she's doing it in just poverty.

[A]

So I know that you're. So you're over everything with Tom, Right? Right. It's like, oh no, I'm not over that. I'm just heartbroken. It sucks knowing that the person that being married to for that long and see them on the courthouse and see him like that and knowing that he's gonna die in prison and he's lost his mind and. Oh my God, it's so heartbreaking. Yes. We thought I'll have some more lotion on my face. Space for this facial. Yes. Thank you. I love this. Like, I feel so bad for him as she's just getting fully pampered in a spa. Like, it's terrible what's happening to poor Tom.

[B]

It's just so heavy on any level. Well, are you gonna, you know, say goodbye? I don't know, but I've thought about it. I mean, what do I even do? You go say goodbye. The is wrong with you, you ingrate. Okay, that man was a monster. But you profited heavily off the monsterism. Go say goodbye.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Thank you card at least. I mean, get some free moisturizer from the front desk and send it to him. Something, something.

[A]

So Erica's like, yeah, I mean, I said this to somebody the other day. I just kind of hoped he died before he went to prison so that way he just get over with. She really should get into the greeting cards business.

[B]

Hope you die today so I don't have to deal with you tomorrow. You sick.

[A]

Hope today is the day you die because it be way worse if you wind up in prison and die there. Have a lovely day.

[B]

Happy birthday. Do us both a favor. Make it your last so I don't have to shout for you next year. You in? Great.

[A]

Hey, happy birthday. Glad you're one year older. Now you can shut the up. Signed Erica Gerardi on your bar mitzvah.

[B]

Get well never, compadre. So Sutton asks how old he is. He's 86. And Sutton goes, oh, my gosh, he's older than my mom. She's like, yeah, and he's really not in good health. He's gonna die in there.

[A]

Ashley Darby is like, is he officially single yet? Because he's kind of my type.

[B]

Actually. Darby's like, now there's a man. Well, I have thought about this at the time, and Is this where she's wearing her insane outfit? She.

[A]

Yeah, this is.

[B]

This is.

[A]

This is. What's. She's here, like, express. I'm actually. Believe it or not, I. I do have empathy for what is empathy, but I do have empathy for Erica because it is a really. It's a weird situation. Like, you want to honor the marriage you have, because it's not like he did anything, like, bad to her, but he did. Like, according to her, he lied about everything, so there's that. So it's like, do you have a moment to honor the, like, the good times that you had with this guy? Because her whole story is that he lost his mind. He had dementia, and the reason why he did all these things was because of dementia. So then do you, like, honor what you used to have? Or do you say, this guy lied to me, betrayed me? I don't know what the answer is, but watching her trying to, like, work her way through it while dressed in this crazy outfit with this, like, this wide, brimmed hat, and this is, like, blue and orange, and there's letters all over it. It's like. Like, why does this not feel like a contemplative moment?

[B]

She just looks insane. I have no empathy for her. I don't believe he lied to her or any of that. The stuff she's still in trouble for is just so vile and rancid. She's a disgusting person, and I hate this. Like, let's try and put Erica under a soft light. I'll take it, because I still love this show, but I'm just shaking my head. Like, are you kidding me? Come on. Like, how many of us were born a minute? Give me a break.

[A]

It's more like I have empathy for a situation like that. I don't know if I. I don't know if I care enough about Erica to have empathy for her. It's more like I have empathy for a situation where if you're in a marriage with someone and they. It turns out that they have defrauded a lot of people, like, what do you do in that. And they go to jail. What do you do in that situation? So it's more like the hypothetical. The hypothetical of the Erica Ness of it all in this situation.

[B]

But according to her and what you just said, according to Erica, as you just reminded us, it's the. What defense. The. He was losing his mind. Like, he had dementia. Okay, so if your family member has dementia, you just never go see them and never talk to them again. That's crazy.

[A]

That's why it is a little weird to me.

[B]

It's horrible. Like, if we're gonna just believe what Erica said, like, let's just pretend for a second. I do. She says her husband has empathy. That's. Or he has dementia. That's why he does all these things. So she just lets him rot and die alone. That's shit. That's just shitty. Like, sorry. And Tom. Disgusting. And I'm not standing up for Tom. I'm just pointing out that Erica is not this, like, angelic figure that we should all be lining up to feel bad for.

[A]

Yeah, I don't. But what I will also say, and this is again, in a theoretical Erica, this is. This. This is not taking into consideration the stuff that you brought up about. Like, the stuff that she's still in court for. Like, I don't know if, like, her saying. Saying goodbye to Tom's visit, him in jail. Like, will he recognize her? I don't know. Like, is that actually going to be helpful to the situation? Does that actually matter?

[B]

I mean, if you're. If your friend that, you know, whatever you maybe you have some issues with, but somebody gets dementia and is sent to the hospital, and you're like, they did bad things when they had dementia. I mean, doesn't dementia trumpet?

[A]

I mean, I would. I would visit.

[B]

You're. I would visit.

[A]

But I understand that for some. I understand that for some people, it's like, actually it could. Like, they want to remember the person and the way that they were. I think that, like, she just is. Like, she just doesn't. She's scared to see him. Like, it's like. I think she's scared to see this version of Tom, like, old, behind bars, not rich, though. His mind going. Etc. And I think that's what it comes down to.

[B]

Yeah. She's gross. I think so. So she's like, well, I mean, would even want to see me? Would he know who I Am. Is it going to be a magical answer to all the questions?

[A]

No. And I've realized through a lot of.

[B]

Therapy that you're not getting closure. You gotta close it yourself.

[A]

Was that, like, a message for the victims that she was sending America scene?

[B]

It's just. It's just a, you know, run of the mill sociopath scene. You know, Sociopath at a spa scene.

[A]

Well, the whole thing from the people and the victims and, you know, what am I saying? All of it to this, the die to dying in prison is just pure insanity. Okay, Yeah. A little hotter on the. On the foot rub there. That's just lovely. Thanks you so much.

[B]

Yeah, Sutton's like, yeah, that is some pretty messed up, like, wow, I just use the sh. Word right? On television. That's how much I'm trying to bomb with Erica. Sa says that five years later, and she's still fighting her way out because she's still got civil cases that are in motion. And I don't know that I'll ever.

[A]

Get away from this. I don't know what happens to me.

[B]

You know, ultimately, in the end, with their big hat thinking on her. And I know.

[A]

I know one thing that's not going to happen to her. Evolving her musical style. Don't tonality ever.

[B]

Yeah, tonality. No, not tonality. Is not a bus that just stops late in life, you know? So Erica's like, well, you know, this.

[A]

Is a whole disaster. Oh, God.

[B]

All the victims, all the this, all of that. While she's getting, like, cold cream put on her face. She's like, oh, oh, God.

[A]

Victims.

[B]

And just the way it ended. I mean, God, well, I hope you get some relief. I was going to put debt relief in there, but I took it out because this is a Sutton's a good person season. So I'll just squinty. Yeah, I'll just sit over here squinting at you and nodding my head and not saying anything judgmental.

[A]

I hope Erica gets some relief, too, because God knows when you're just lying there getting a facial, someone's rubbing your shoulders, and you're just getting pampered all day long, relief is hard to come by.

[B]

So then we go to Dorit's house, and her mother and father are there. So she's like, oh, the fact that you've been here, it's a game changer. I can't even be at the thought of you guys going, it just stinks. Not having any family here. No. Not having you guys closer to me.

[A]

So her dad. Shalom was like, you did the Right thing. You called us up. We're here. And so she says, the last few weeks, I've noticed something change in Jagger. It's like he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. And we went to a friend of mine's for dinner, and she had her father there, and he was regaling us with stories of when he was younger. And when he got home, Jack, and burst into tears and was telling me how much he missed his saba. And I said, well, we can get a different hummus brand. He goes, no, Grandpa. I said, oh, that's what you've been meaning all these years? Yes, sure, I heard him.

[B]

I heard him for over an hour as he sobbed. It took my soul right out of my heart. Ripped it away. It's a big Dorit acting episode. So Rachel's like, okay, well, we're gonna take them to Florida. They're gonna have a great time. Dorit. Okay. So, yes, to answer your question, we will take the kids to Florida. Thank God. Maybe Jika will return to me after he spent some time in Florida. The mystical lands, Florida.

[A]

So Rachel is like, well, not to change the subject to read, but as much as you are worried about Jaga, I'm so worried about you and your health. You don't get enough sleep, you don't get enough rest, you don't get enough nutrition, and you're dumber than a piece of wood. Where did we go wrong?

[B]

I knew, and I feel it. I feel the weight of it. And that saying, so that's saying something for somebody who slept under PK for so long. But, you know, PK used to handle everything, and now it's like he's dumped a lot of things in me lap without any notice. Noticeably jigger Jigger himself.

[A]

He handled everything, including other people's boobs. I've not had a conversation with Piquet to learn what he's expecting me to pay or what he's paying. I just find out from the business manager if he decides he's no longer paying something, and it lands right in my lap. Have you ever had an entire bowl of chicken salad land in your lap? That's what has literally happened ever since this happened.

[B]

Who doesn't pay for their chicken salad? I don't know what's coming, when it's coming. I have to get a new business manager. I had to get a divorce attorney. And then she tells us, so this was weird. I don't know if you saw this circulating on the Internet, but she says, PK doesn't give Me any money. He doesn't give me any money. He expects me to pay the bills. And he believes he's doing more than enough. And I don't even know what he's doing. But the. Where is it? Let me find it here. But the captions were not saying that it was. The captions were saying, PK pays the mortgage and the school. What do you think That's.

[A]

Yeah, the captions. Yeah. I don't know. The captions were definitely reporting something else, which is.

[B]

And they do that sometimes. Do you think that's because they go back and they re edit right before air and they haven't given it to the caption people yet?

[A]

Yes. Yes. Or they forget to update the captions. Yeah. There clearly was a different edit of the show. And they were like, no, we're gonna, like, not the original edit. Like, gave PK credit for doing mortgage or something. And now they're like, no, no, no.

[B]

We'Re not giving him any credits. They're like, smear him even further. Although I understand enough for pk. I mean, PK deserves what he gets. So Daria is saying, you know, I'm in fight or flight. I'm trying to be a mum and a parent from 13 different countries. And how you worry about me. Imagine it's a hundred times more how I worry for my kids. Jiga and the girl who keeps coming over.

[A]

Tucson. Is it Sedona? Do you mean Phoenix? Oh, yes, yes, of course. The number one. Number one of Arizona.

[B]

Now let's go to Kyle and Alexia shopping at Gary's, where we all go to get our wedding stuff. Eight weeks before a wedding. So they've. They're going to. They're talking to the store manager who already looks like she's not buying their. She's like, hi. So you're here not to really spend any money and just, you know, take up hours of my selling time in my store so I make no commissions. That's amazing. What can I not help you with, bitches? I know.

[A]

And Alexia is now entering her, like, Little Housewife of Beverly Hills phase. Because now she's wearing a little blazer. And they're here at this. At this Gary's place where Kyle's like, well, this is my daughter Alexia. This is tradition. I mean, I registered here, and, like, your aunts registered here and everybody registered here. Tradition is like, I feel like, you know, this is where we have Thanksgiving. Or, like, here's an heirloom. But not, like, where you register. Like, this is this. Is this where we register is very important to us. So basically it's a rite of passage for this family to register at Giri's. And looking around the store, you can see it's like very expensive china and glassware and housewares. And all I could think about was how boring all this shit looked. I am sorry for everyone who is duped into paying a premium for this. I'm sorry it, like, this could not. Like, if you're Alexia, you're 29 and you're gonna get this stuff. Like, this is, ugh. I was like, no way. Just because that's a high price tag. And sure, it's probably a very high quality stuff. Let's not, let's not, you know, kid ourselves. But like, ugh. I just was sad for Alexia's future when I saw this stuff. Did you have a reaction or was this like a Ben moment?

[B]

Well, I thought it was stuff that I'd never seen before. Like, they're looking at these, which. Why would I. Not getting married, not gonna get married. Never been married, not doing it. Well, if you, if you asked me for something, I'm sending you a 20. No, that's kidding. That's not true. I'll buy you a gift. But these gifts, yeah, they were really expensive. I'd never seen these plates before. They were really bright colors. Like one was really bright blue and then there's a bright pink and then a bright yellow. And then you're supposed to kind of mix and match them and put them on top of each other. I. It looked very like units, like from the MALL from the 80s, you know, it was just like really bright, solid colors. And I don't know, I didn't really.

[A]

Get it formal and like unapproachable and like, it looked like it belonged in a different era, you know, it didn't, it didn't seem like if I'm 29, like this is like this doesn't like represent me. I feel like this like represents Kathy Hilton, you know, And I was like.

[B]

Looking at it kind of like older, Older people stuff.

[A]

Yeah. And so it just felt like Alexia is like cosplaying. I'm on their website now and I'm just looking at all their stuff and I'm like, I would literally never want any of this. Well, actually, some of the bar, the bar stuff is actually really cute. They have like a decanter for $2800, which is ridiculous because you're gonna put a $2800 piece of glassware in a space where people get drunk. Okay, congrats.

[B]

Well, that's what I was thinking too is it's just so, you're just so rich. Honestly, if you expect people to come to your wedding and buy you a 2800 decanter. I'm like, you, like I'm not coming to you.

[A]

That's the other thing. Like who's registered?

[B]

You think you're inviting to your wedding. Like I made a money, but I think that's a class thing. Right? Because I'm not, I'm not rich enough to be going to weddings like that. Like, I would never do that. I would never buy that.

[A]

I. Look, I, I. Here, here's the thing. So I imagine if you're registering, you have some aspirational registry elements. Like you, you have a. I'm registered at Gary's, but I'm also registered at like Bloomingdale's and Macy's or Nordstrom's. But I feel like if this is gonna be the registry, this is like, like I agree, not everyone that's going to Alexia's wedding is gonna be able to plop down, you know, eleven hundred dollars for an Orient Italiano orumt service with Trey and like. And Alexa's gonna sit there wanting a tea service. You know, like it's just to me when, when as I look at the site, I'm really like whipping myself up into a frenzy. And the caffeine is helping too. But like when Kyle is like, yeah, this is where your aunt's registered and I registered and your grandmother registered, I'm like, that's because you all were poor and wanted the rich, so you registered here. So with the rich people you were trying to ingratiate with would buy you rich. So now you could cosplay as rich people until you became rich yourselves.

[B]

Yeah. So I mean, I guess that's what it is. You know, I just can't imagine being 29 and being like, okay, we're having people over to dinner. Pull out the twenty thousand dollar china. You know, like, I know. I just don't have any friends that I could even trust around that.

[A]

Yep. It's just all this stuff. I'm like, I just would never want in my house.

[B]

Yeah. Thoughts of a non person seeing this scene. I'm like, yeah, I don't get it. So she's like, well, normally I would have Kathy come because, you know, tradition. But she's not here. So I asked another out of touch, you know, rich white lady to come. Sutton's coming. So Sutton comes and she's like, you know, squitting around, and Carl says that the family's bad at planning and. And the only thing they have eight weeks before the wedding is a rabbi, which. That is crazy, especially in this town. I don't know that I believe it. Well, where did they end up getting married? I forget. Was it in, like, maybe they got married or something?

[A]

I don't. I don't remember. Maybe they got married at Giri's. They're like, well, can we ask you a favor?

[B]

The $2800 decanter will be saying your vows. So she's like, oh, by the way, want to hear how funny this is? Okay, wait, I'm going to stretch.

[A]

Stretch.

[B]

So the girl that bought my Bel Air house, her name was Amanda, and I bumped into her at the Glenn center the other day, and she's also getting married and she's coming here today.

[A]

Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Amanda bought my old house in Bel Air for me. And like, for whatever reason, my followers were very angry with Amanda for smashing our beautiful floors. We see video footage of, like, Amanda's man taking a sledgehammer to the.

[B]

It was glorious.

[A]

I was so happy.

[B]

And, you know, casting was like, get her on the show immediately, because if anyone can trigger Kyle, it's someone taking a sledgehammer to the floor she copied off of Kathy Hilton.

[A]

Yeah, I was happy. And the four people who they. They whose names they put up on screen, that were like, no, how could you do that? We all know that those were. Those were all finsta accounts for Kyle's daughters. Let's be honest. Was this the house that had the bean shaped pool in the backyard?

[B]

Yes, that was your. The. The pool that you absolutely hated. I think this was the mean shaped pool.

[A]

I did hate that pool. But I love this. I love that house. I actually like that house so much more than her current house. I actually hate her current house.

[B]

Do you? What, what do you hate about it?

[A]

I've always hated it. Well, obviously the neon art has been an issue, but that's not a house issue. I hate the hedges when they drive up. I feel like they're too tall and too, like, they just make the driveway feel tight. I feel like it's like formal and like, not warm in there. I don't know, I feel like it's more generic. It just looks like every other house. Whereas your other one was a little bit more like mid century, if I remember. And I like the way it, like, spread out and I liked the backyard. And I don't know, I just felt like the first One had more personality.

[B]

Yeah, well, Amanda sledgehammered the fuck out of that personality, and it was glorious to see. So Amanda comes, and they all have Birkin bags. And so the price comes up of all these Birkin bags, and Amanda's is, like, half the price as the other ladies. And I was like, oh, Kyle clocked that. You know, Kyle clocked that shit right away. Kyle's already got, like, a list going of what she's going to get this girl on. But this is Amanda, everybody. Amanda. Not really sure about Amanda. Her only personality trait so far seems to be like, is she wearing Invisalign or is she not? There's something. Teeth that. There's very pretty teeth. But I was like, is there an invisible layer over them? That's all I kept thinking the whole episode. How about you?

[A]

I thought Amanda was gonna come in and be a hilarious, because in the previews, she's like, oh, is she mad? Because she, like, played herself, and, like, didn't mean to play herself, but she did play herself in front of people who didn't play themselves. And now she looks stupid because the rest of us look cool. She said something like that in the preview, and I was like, yes, yes, queen. And then she came in actually being a little bit more perky than I was wanting. I was like, oh, so it turns out you're, like, nice and perky. Okay.

[B]

I wouldn't choose the term perky. I think she seemed kind of dead inside, which I think is an okay quality in a person and a housewife. It's. But we've already got Erica. I don't know that we can handle more than dead inside.

[A]

You know, how about I revise it to her? Keep resenting.

[B]

Okay, yeah, basic, maybe.

[A]

She's very pretty. She's. What you. What'd you say?

[B]

Basic.

[A]

Basic.

[B]

She's like, look, I have money now, and I carry a Birkin. And, you know, just like another blonde lady with the Birkin in Beverly Hills.

[A]

She's like a CB2 and they're gearies, which is every. All of them are dead on the inside. A CB2 at least, is trying to be fun.

[B]

Yeah. But she is bringing in fun stuff because she is sledgehammering Kyle's floors. And competitive Kyle is not going to like that just carrying a Birkin. We know competitive Kyle is not going to like that, even though Kyle won this round. And the third thing is, she's also getting married, so now she's got wedding competition. So Kyle is going to hate this person. And I am here for it. Yeah.

[A]

This girl deigning to have a wedding while Kyle is planning a wedding for her storyline is like a huge affront to her. So I think Kyle's just gonna bring it up like 10 more times that Amanda's in her old house as like a power play because she did do that to Sutton when Sutton stayed at her house. She's like, oh, my God. It's so funny because, like, Sutton lived in my. Is in my house right now. Isn't it funny because Sutton's basically like a renter. It's like, basically she's like a street urchin, right? I mean, it's like hilarious that she's even in our group. Like, is she even allowed to be in Gary's?

[B]

But she does keep saying, like, she's in my house. She's in my house, guys. Yeah, she lives in my house.

[A]

It's like, in this town.

[B]

Oh, we didn't do that.

[A]

We didn't do the opening lines.

[B]

I actually just pulled them up. You want me to send them to you?

[A]

Please do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In this town.

[B]

In this town.

[A]

Yeah, send them to me.

[B]

Okay, I'm sending them to you right now, you little tiger. Oh, thanks for the article you sent me how Matt Denonman's dungeon crawler Carl became a blockbuster.

[A]

We talk about him a lot. Yeah. I want to say something while I pull up these taglines, which is that if anyone thought my rant about Geary's was like, I'm like, fuck rich, whatever. Like, no, I love rich. I love, like, wealthy.

[B]

Are you worried that people with stick the stick up their ass brigade is going to come for you?

[A]

No, well. Well, no, I. I'm worried that I'm like, people may think I'm trying to like, virtue signal. Some sort of like, like, eat the rich thing.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

I'm not doing that. Like, I don't care if something, like, if something's expensive but like beautiful and chic, then like, I'm like, yeah, splurge if you can do it. You know, I support it. I just think this looks old fashioned and they're paying a fortune for it. And I'm like, why would you want this old fashioned shit in your house? You know, I mean, cut to like, in 10 years, maybe I'll be like, take me to Gary's. I'm getting that plate. But Also, I'll be 57 in 10 years and it will probably, like, be my vibe, you know? And I have become more like, my tastes have become more and more.

[B]

I love that, like a Scene has gone by and you're like, but wait, what are the people of Gary's gonna think?

[A]

No, I don't care.

[B]

What if I'm rich enough to go into Gary's and I get that same sales lady and she's like, I listen to your show and I know that you really think you will get no pink plates here. Get out of here, you. Gary Shaming.

[A]

You know what? They're listening. I hope they're listening so that way they know that. That like we are clocking them for selling old fashioned boring at way too high of a price point. My only thing is, I didn't want people to think I was like trying to pretend to be some sort of like. Yeah, like, like, you know, like. Because everyone knows I'm bougie, Everyone knows I love IR garden and all that. So I didn't want people to think I was suddenly being fake. I just was saying I think their is old fashioned and overpriced.

[B]

Okay, all right.

[A]

Okay. Opening line.

[B]

Record corrected. Record corrected. So we go to the opening lines and Kyle. Gotta hand it to Kyle for season 15 gives us a classic. Earlier I said season 12. Sorry, I'm stupid, but she gives us a classic in this town. Oh, yes, in this town. I fucking love it. I love that she's still doing that in this town. Stars come and go, but diamonds last forever.

[A]

Yeah. And some. I would say the same as some of these episodes. Rachel Zoe says, I die for fashion, but now I'm living.

[B]

For me, right now, I'm paralyzed, but at least I'm paralyzed.

[A]

Die for passion.

[B]

Paralyzed for Jennifer Gardner and Bose is I turn ambition into an art form and I am the masterpiece.

[A]

Sutton's Tracks is I might live on the main road, but I definitely bring main character energy.

[B]

Okay, so Amanda's constructed, right? Yeah.

[A]

Like it should be. I might live on a main road.

[B]

But I'm not a main something or other.

[A]

I mean, I might live on a main road, but that's because I bring main character.

[B]

Not like need an and I might.

[A]

Not a but or an and I might live. I live on a main road and I'm main character energy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I might live on a main road, but I definitely. No, and I definitely bring main character energy. You know, like owning that main road energy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Amanda's is, I didn't marry into money. I manifested it. Oh, God, another manifesto. Two times in a week on Bravo, they're shoving it down and it's the same producer, by the way, it's Alex Baskin. Over there. Are you okay? Are you going to some kind of metaphysical therapy right now? Like, what is happening with you that you're putting manifestors in front of our face all of a sudden?

[A]

Yeah, go take it to Venus on Vanderpump Rules. Yeah, here's Erika Jane. Survival isn't my story. It's my superpower. Okay, well, you sure to add you on to the Avengers?

[B]

I wish she was just, like, flying through the air, riding on the back of some old wrinkly man while she said that. And dorit. I'm unfiltered, unbothered and friendly. Unburdened. Not by debt, you're not.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So those are the lines.

[B]

They're basic. You're basic.

[A]

You're basic lines. Basic.

[B]

Okay, so we're still meeting Amanda. So Amanda is getting married. She's going to be getting married in October. And Sutton's like, oh, you've got a lot of time. She goes, yeah, I found the venue, but that's all I've done so far. Well, how'd you find the man? That's what's important to know. She goes, oh, yeah, he chased me down the street in West Hollywood. And she's like, in West Hollywood? What am I doing wrong? Why, even in the gay place, this woman found a man in five seconds. What the hell? They chase you down, too? It's just for selfies, you know, it's not the kind of guy you're looking for. It's a bunch of gays. Like, oh, my God, what happened to Avi? I won't tell anybody.

[A]

I think. I think what a sudden you might be doing wrong is that you have a perpetual look of fear on your face when you see other people.

[B]

What?

[A]

Get them away from me. They're going to attack. So Amanda says, the night I met Eddie, I'm walking towards Santa Monica Boulevard with my girlfriend, and I walk by this really cute tall guy, and then next thing I know, I'm stepping into the street, and he's, like, right behind me making Woody banter as to buy me a drink. I'm like, you're in West Hollywood. It was a gay. Just so you know. She's like, there was someone behind me. He's talking about Beyonce and how, like, he's in the beehive. And, you know, I turned around and I was like, what is this? A manifestation of my dream man? Yeah.

[B]

And then he found out she was rich and was like, okay, I'm in. I mean, can we live by West Hollywood? Because if this really is A straight guy that she's marrying. Fuck off. West Hollywood. Like, this is what happened to West Hollywood. Hollywood, you know, every. Like, Lisa Vanderpump is like, what happened to West Hollywood? This. This happened. Okay. Straight people finding love in five seconds. Okay? Gay people. Are the people supposed to find love in West Hollywood in five seconds? And guess how long it's supposed to last. Five seconds. It was West Hollywood.

[A]

Even straight people are having love scandals. I mean, Sandoval and Raquel making out at the Abbey. Like, that's not fair.

[B]

Yeah, but they stole the Abbey from us years ago.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's really true. So she's. So this guy comes out and starts like. Like, I guess left, like, ran out of a bar to go chase her down. And she was like. I remember thinking, why do I feel compelled to, like, put my face on yours? I just met you. I mean, from that, like a slightly horny place. Just from like a. Why do I feel like I love you with my face on your face, you know?

[B]

Yeah, I just had my face on his face. I mean, it wasn't sluttiness. He was just so well moisturized. Like, he's gay, Amanda. You found a gay. Okay. But I really wanted to marry him because after. I mean, I know he respects his mother because he came out of a place called Mother Load, which was just. It's just so sweet.

[A]

He was so tall. Admittedly, once he took off his heels, he did lose about 6 inches. But still very tall. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And he says he manifested me and he's a better manifester than me when I'm kind of known for manifesting, you know? I mean, I don't know if you know that about me, but I'm. I'm known for manifesting thing. This was a Michael Kors purse before I walked into the store. Okay. And when I'm kind of, like, known for that because he decided that night he was ready to meet one. Meet the one. And then I, like, walked by him within an hour. Maybe he has like, some deadly disease or. I don't know. I don't know that I'd want to be with someone if they were like. I told myself today was the day I was gonna find the one no matter what. And then you walked by, so you're it.

[A]

You know, that's all convenient, but, you know, it's like when someone's looking for something and then they find. They finally find it and they say it's always in the last place you look. I'm like, yeah, because you don't keep on looking after you find it. So it's like by. By nature, it always has to be in the last place you look.

[B]

So they were in the last place I looked. Like, think of how stupid that sounds.

[A]

You're so stupid. Like, congratulations. But so I kind of feel like when people make these announcements of, like, I knew tonight was gonna be the night. I mean, I appreciate the manifestation journey and it's very fun, but, like, the truth is this person probably said that, like, every night, and then finally his number hit, and it's just, you know, it's cool that it hit, but, like, let's not overthink this.

[B]

I don't trust anybody who makes millions of dollars off other people through manifesting. I mean, you manifested it for yourself, which is great, but you also manifested somebody else spending 10 grand on your workshop, you know, so I don't. I don't know that they're. I'd like to check all the people that spent all this money on your workshops, because let's see how much they are. I think they're like, a lot of money, these workshops. Okay, what's her name?

[A]

Well, Amanda Seyfried.

[B]

No, Amanda Francis. Right. Amanda Francis Workshop.

[A]

She's got a firsty, firsty.

[B]

Go ahead. Oh, digital courses. Here we go. I found it. Our most popular digital courses from Amanda Francis Money Queen app. And you can tell she's, like, really rich and fancy because she wears her sports coats over her shoulders, but not with her arms in them, which is like, love that.

[A]

I love that flex. You know what I want to do? I want to wear. I want to wear a blazer like that and just walk right by Gary's and be like, big mistake, huge.

[B]

Even though they didn't click on the first one. That's called money mentality. And it's her wearing diamond boots. It's all in pink, of course. Getting out of a G wagon with her shoulders covered, but not her legs and she's on the ground are, you know, thousands of hundred dollar bills that she's stepping all over. And here's the course. Do you feel like there's never enough money for you? Are you paralyzed with fear at the thought of money running out? Do you feel anxiety when thinking about your bills? Okay, this goes on for a whole page. Or do you simply feel there's room for improvement in your relationship with money? I like that. She just gets down to, like, not granular at all. It's like, do you feel like you. You could be making money out of your elbows? Okay, would you Just maybe, like, more money. Okay. This course is for you, at least. I used to. Well, at one point in time, many of these feelings, beliefs, and realities were very, very true for me. I've been there. And then a big cursive.

[A]

It's like.

[B]

And it sucked. So then we see a bunch. Where are the prices? Amanda? This is a lot of talking. This is literally, like, seven pages of text. This is so blatantly.

[A]

This is so blatantly a scam. I'm actually. It. I actually love it.

[B]

It.

[A]

I love how it's just unabashedly clearly a scam. This is the biggest scam since Drop it with Drew. I'm just gonna say that right now. This is so obviously like, I'm. You're gonna come to a hotel ballroom and sit here for three hours. I'm gonna take your money, and you will not be changed whatsoever.

[B]

Okay? The core system to heal your relationship with money is 15 grand. The money mentality, which is higher than I even thought. So good for her. The money mentality. Makeover course modules. And there is nine modules. $2,000. So I guess that would be 18 grand if I'm doing this right. The MMM peer support community is 564. The MMM workbook and transcripts, 500 bucks, 497. Bonus drop the struggle video series value, $3,300. I mean, good Lord, girl. Then it just. It just goes on and on. So, yeah, I mean, she's manifested many. All right.

[A]

She has manifested for sure. And I'm on the. On the tab that says Vibe membership, it looks like there's, like, a community. And what's really cool is that, like, if you scroll pretty far down, you can get the quote, I'm in the vibe affirmation cup. I mean, I thought this was a scam, but then when I saw that you can get a cup that says I'm in the Vibe, I'm like, wait a second. And the cup is one of those cups that. That's, like, shaped like an aluminum can. Those glasses that have that. They're like. They use the can as a mold. So she's like, guess what? I'm in the vibe of a can. But I'm a glass. Yeah, it's a vibe. And so on one side, it says, I'm in the vibe. And on the back side, this is what it says on the back side of this glass. I'm reading it directly off the glass. Say it with me. My vibe is pure. My vibe is potent. My vibe does the work for me. I align I receive, I expand. Life loves me. Money flows to me. Opportunities chase me down. People love to pay me. Everything I desire is already mine. Everything works out for my good and in my favor always. I move with intention. I trust my power and I create my reality with ease. My success is inevitable. My abundance is limited. My essence is magnetic. I get in the vibe. I live from the vibe. My vibe creates my life. All the love. Amanda Francis.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

On a glass.

[B]

This lady is absolutely full of.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

I love it. And that's all on one glass. And the picture says it's all. That's one glass, you guys. We just gave you a whole course for free. So I'm looking at this tab just because I thought it looked funny because all of these pictures are her. Like, look how rich I am. Like this one, she's wearing a real shiny blazer and an expensive purse and leather pants, and she's wearing pink high heels on a tennis court because that's what rich people do. They play tennis. And it says, turning shit it into gold. And big cursive pain into power. Deep doubt into discernment. Longing into love.

[A]

I'm not gonna lie.

[B]

Missed. I'm an. Alcohol says I can't. I'm taking this course. Should we see if we can just get this course for free? I want. Is it only. Oh, my God, I'm womanly gonna be for us.

[A]

Amanda, listen. Someone who's friends with Amanda, tell her to listen. And then. Honestly, I just want the glass. At this point, I'm not even lying. It's a glass. Here's the thing. She's very smart. It's not just a glass that's on the website. It's a glass that's filled with cold brew and a metal straw. I mean, see, this is like if Gary's had this hello, I. I would register for something. I'm like, I don't know. Register for Sunday. Like, it's my.

[B]

Like, it'll be a Sunday cup that's always full.

[A]

Give me some cold brew in a glass that looks like a can that says I'm the vibe and has a. A 30,000 word dissertation on the back of it.

[B]

It's only. It's only 15 grand. But you get a coffee that never, ever empties. My vibe pure. My vibe is potent. My vibe does the work for me. I align, receive, I expand. Yes. Life loves me. Money flows to me. I'm going to do this. I took a screenshot. I'm going to memorize it and say it every day. And see if I get rich.

[A]

Let's do it. I. I also love that life, like at the top, the very top of the page, when she's like addressing you to try to like, get you to join this membership. It starts with her saying, hello, my love. I'm like, I know you're not a hello, my love person. We've seen you on tv. Yeah, I love, I love this for her. I love this obvious grift. It's. It's like really exciting to me.

[B]

Yeah, you go to the one that says meditations and it says hello there, wealthy woman. I like the cursive. Like, it'll say like, hello and then in big, giant, girly cursive, it's like wealthy woman, period.

[A]

She's into grammar. I actually, I notice her grammar is very good. She has her commas in the right places. She's like, when she says, hello there, wealthy woman, she doesn't have to include a period there because it's already so stylized. But she's like, no, there will be a period that attention to, to detail, that is a manifestation.

[B]

Yeah. So she's full of. I've read so many of these self help books, especially when I was younger, I used to read them all the time. And this is just exactly what it is, you know, just exactly that vibe. So as someone who's given those people tons of money, part of me is resentful, but the other part's like, well, I mean, it's going great, right?

[A]

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