#3121 RHOSLC S614: Trick of the Trademark

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens Episode #3121

"RHOSLC S6E14: Trick of the Trademark"

Date: December 17, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Overview

In this lively recap, Ben and Ronnie break down Season 6, Episode 14 of "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City," set during the cast's trip to Greece. The main themes involve escalating group tensions, the fallout from rumor-mongering (including substance abuse allegations), the dynamics of performative vacation joy, and a hilarious showdown over the "high body count hair" trademark. Expect biting wit, Bravo in-jokes, and classic Crappens comedic exaggeration.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Greek Mother's Day — Housewives Wake Up in Santorini

• The episode opens with the ladies waking up in their lavish Greek villa. There’s a montage of blind-opening, with the hosts riffing about production’s obsession with this ("Big move on productions part, guys. We need more blind opening on this show." — Ronnie, 04:18).
• Whitney shouts "Happy Mother's Day," but the mood is bittersweet for some — particularly Brittany, who reflects on her complicated relationship with her children (10:31).
• Heather is in hyper-performative vacation mode, loudly marveling at everything, much to the annoyance of the group and the hosts.

The Friendship Commandments Chart

[05:16-09:08]

• In the kitchen, Heather and Angie notice a chart with "Friendship Commandments," leading to confusion about marks for good or bad behavior.
• The intention is for housewives with the fewest "red marks" to win a prize, but both the hosts and the housewives are skeptical that this will change anyone’s TV-seeking antics.
• Memorable moment: Angie’s confusion over the rules, to which Ben quips, "Don’t have game night with Angie." (07:22)

Meredith's Lonely, Victimized Arc

[14:29 & 24:27]

• Meredith adopts a melodramatic victim role after breakfast tension and a broken coffee machine. She claims she’s being treated "like a piece of dirt," especially by Heather and Whitney.
• Ronnie delights in her performance: "Meredith Marks having a pity party is one of my favorite versions of her." (16:27)
• Meredith fields a Mother's Day call from Brooks mid-argument, which irritates Heather despite previously praising Meredith's "always answers her kids" policy in her memoir.

Quote

"Well, honey, I love you, but I'm getting yelled at to hang up the phone on Mother's Day ... instead of us talking, I guess I just have to hang up on my toddler. Thanks a lot, ladies." (Meredith, 24:02)

Activity Splits: Donkey Riding vs. Cooking Class

[13:42 & 31:07]

• Angie, Lisa, Bronwyn, and Mary go donkey riding; Heather, Whitney, Brittany, and (eventually) Meredith take a Greek cooking class.
• Lisa is both thrilled and apprehensive about donkeys (“I won't ride a boy.” – Lisa, 33:19), leading to confusion with local guides and much comic material.
• The hosts riff on the tradition of family hardship tales, spoofing Angie’s dad’s legendary donkey journeys ("Uber Eats took a long time back then" — Ronnie, 35:15).

Ongoing Fights: Accusations, Apologies, and Emotional Stonewalling

[20:08-30:28]

• The issue of Whitney "projecting" rumors of Meredith's alleged substance abuse comes up repeatedly. Despite Whitney's later apology, Meredith remains icy: “Okay, great.” (50:25)
• Ben and Ronnie lampoon Heather’s "injured party" routine and call out the cast’s emotional performativity.
• Key issue: Housewives’ expectations on "apology format," i.e., needing tears or flowery emotional confessions vs. straightforward statements. Ronnie asks, "What do you people want? You're breaking Meredith." (28:43)

Comedy Highlights & Notable Quotes

Lisa's Donkey One-Liners

• "What do you call a donkey that has a degree? A smart ass." (Lisa, 33:57)
• "The happiest we've seen Lisa all season is with the donkeys." (34:24)

Meredith's Mother's Day Monologue

• "Does this moussaka need to be seasoned with the salt of my tears? Cuz I'll be over here crying in the corner." (Meredith, 39:50)

The Pool Scene and "10-1-2" Bathroom Lingo

[52:13-66:13]

• The ladies debate modes of showering and bathroom breaks, confusing “10-1” and “10-2” codes (ultimately clarified as film crew terms for bathroom breaks). The extended riff is a meta-joke on Bravo's penchant for bathroom humor and the cast’s literal conversations.

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Major Plot Point: "High Body Count Hair" Trademark Showdown

[66:50-76:15]

• During dinner, Brittany announces she's trademarked “high body count hair,” a phrase Angie originally used to insult her on the show.
• Angie is incensed, calling it "embarrassing and weird," and complains Brittany is "the sidecar on my car trying to get on my gravy train." (67:19)
• Ben contextualizes this as a classic Housewives "witty line" appropriation—comparing it to Luann/Giovanni or Kandi’s sex dungeon storyline.
• The legal and ethical validity of trademarking viral insults is debated, with the hosts reminding everyone this term long predates Angie.
• The feud devolves into mutual hair-bashing, business shade, and who is "threatened" by whom.
• Whitney, meanwhile, attempts to explain the philosophical layers to "high body count outfit/low body count hair," to everyone's amusement.

Quotes

"All you did was have bad hair. You should have trademarked bad hair." (Ronnie, 74:10)
"I'm trademarking chocolate syrup on Justin." (Ben, 76:29)
"All’s fair in love and trademark." (Brittany, 70:02)

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Other Memorable Moments

• Meredith’s "business-casual" swimsuits: The hosts continually roast her penchant for odd vacation-wear that could double as a boardroom outfit (56:18).
• Debate over slang: Extensive mock analysis of "10-1-2," "pommel thrower," and their actual meanings, culminating in Ben’s pronouncement: "Don't say you don't come here to get educated." (66:20)
• Bravo meta-humor: Ben and Ronnie poke fun at recurring franchise tropes like vacation breakdowns, hair feuds, and the fleeting nature of Housewives "commandments."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Mother's Day/Santorini wakeup: 03:39–10:31
• Friendship Commandments Chart: 05:17–09:08
• Meredith’s victim monologue: 14:29–16:52; 24:27–25:22
• Donkey ride recap/Donkey jokes: 31:07–35:54
• Cooking class/moussaka/sad Meredith: 31:07–43:13
• 10-1-2 bathroom lingo & pool scene: 52:13–66:20
• Trademark showdown ("High body count hair"): 66:50–76:15
• Trademark ethics/Bravo references: 67:12–69:45

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Notable Quotes (with Attribution and Time)

• "Meredith Marks having a pity party is one of my favorite versions of her." — Ronnie, 16:27
• "Well, honey, I love you, but I'm getting yelled at to hang up the phone on Mother's Day ... instead of us talking, I guess I just have to hang up on my toddler. Thanks a lot, ladies." — Meredith, 24:02
• "What do you call a donkey that has a degree? A smart ass." — Lisa, 33:57
• "All you did was have bad hair. You should have trademarked bad hair." — Ronnie, 74:10
• "All’s fair in love and trademark." — Brittany, 70:02
• "You gotta pounce, pounce as soon as possible." — Ben, 69:39
• "Don't say you don't come here to get educated." — Ben, 66:20

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Final Thoughts

Ben and Ronnie revel in the episode’s mix of melodrama, petty trademark disputes, and classic Housewives excess. Their tone is irreverent and affectionate, playfully mocking the cast while celebrating the city's knack for turning even legal filings and donkey rides into comedy gold.

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Next Week: RHOSLC goes on holiday hiatus for 2-3 weeks — but Ben and Ronnie tease bonus content, and their holiday movie recap (“My Secret Santa”) will tide Crappens fans over.

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Transcript

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

[Ben]

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

[Ronnie]

How they hanging, brah?

[Ben]

Everything's hanging real well. How's everything hanging with you?

[Ronnie]

Good. Everybody, welcome to the show. Today is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Day where rushing up to the Christmas holiday. We're so excited. My God, it's going to be so fun. Yeah, it's next week. I'm very excited and that's really all I have to say. And also, you know, Christmas gifts are starting to come and man, it is just candy. Cookies, cookies, candy candies, Cookie, cookie. So I'm just surrounded by candy. But yeah, well, not that I haven't had any dildos yet, but lots of cookies and stuff. And you know, I ain't even complaining. I'll tell you who's fighting it is my medication, my weight loss medication. It's like, you don't want that. I'm like eating it anyway. So my body is in rebellion at the moment. But God bless it. Thanks to everybody who sends me junk food. I love you, but yeah. Today is Real Housewives of slc as we mentioned. And Monday is our final Amazon live for the year. So join us for that at 4pm Pacific time on on Amazon Live. You can get a link to that page over at our link in bio on Instagram. We can. You can go check out our crappy hour. We had Alison Roman on this week which was super fun to talk to her. And I think that's it for special stuff. Oh We've got our Christmas movie coming up over Christmas. It'll be Christmas, Christmas Eve Christmas, and then Monday and Tuesday. The next week is four episodes. It's long, it's ridiculous. It's with the reality gaze. And the movie we recapped is called My Secret Santa on Netflix. We're not necessarily suggesting you watch that movie because it sucked. Okay.

[Ben]

It's bad.

[Ronnie]

It sucked hardcore. But, man, we had fun talking about how much it sucked for four hours. So join us for that over the Christmas holiday. Ben's got a little cough today.

[Ben]

I know. It's like, I'm not. I'm not, like, under the weather. Like, I feel totally fine. I think it's like, either allergies or I don't know what it was. I don't know. But, like, I have, like, a little bit of a little cough is coming up. So I apologize to anyone who I'm, like, coughing in your ears with this podcast. I'm just what the body does. Okay. I took some cough medicine to, like, to abate it a little bit, but you know what? I got a little post nasal drip that's causing a little bit of cough. Okay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So we open Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 6 Episode 14 Everybody's Waking up and I am Greek, and Whitney is probably still drunk and screaming, Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. It is Mother's Day in Greece. It's Greek Mother's Day.

[Ben]

Greek Mother's Day. Very exciting.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Everyone's opening up the blinds. I feel like the producers were like, can you. We need to get footage of you opening the blinds because we need to make a montage of blinds opening. So that's what we see here. It's very exciting.

[Ronnie]

Big move on productions part, guys. We need more blind opening on this show. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Ronnie]

So Whitney comes out of the bathroom topless, and they need more towels. And so they have to call a butler, which I think they're joking. I don't know if they really have a butler or not, but.

[Ben]

Yeah. No, not on Salt Lake City.

[Ronnie]

I would assume not, but yeah, those two can't do anything. Last week they were asking, you know, they were saying, should we go get water or go. Or go take a shower? And then they decided they didn't have time to get water. And everyone online is. Was. Well, not everyone, but there was a Reddit thread like, are they on drugs? Do you think water meant coke? No, I think it meant water because those two dumb dummies are the Ones who don't go to the store to get water. And you know what? I judge people like that because what's the first thing I do when we get to a hood hotel band? I go find the 711 or a store and I get me some gallons of water. Gotta do it. You never know.

[Ben]

That is 100%. That is 100 correct. You always find the water. Every single time.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

Now we. Yeah, now we see Heather and Angie in the kitchen, and there's a chart there that says the friendship commandments. And Heather's like, are these our commandments? And we flash back to the te Boston Tea Party where Brahman's like, hear ye, hear ye. We're going to have friendship commandments.

[Ronnie]

Yes. And this is one of the episodes where Heather. And Heather does this probably every episode, but especially on vacations. It makes me crazy where everything is amazing. Like, everything that happens, she has to yell and scream to everybody around how amazing it is. She's like, oh, my God, are these the commandments? Like, these are the friendship commandments that we make.

[Ben]

So we.

[Ronnie]

We make a mark. When anybody does wrong, Is that what we do? Like, everything. They get dinner later. And she's like, oh, my God, is this food? Are you kidding me? Like, oh, my God. Like, she's the most performative, happy person on vacation.

[Ben]

Is that sunset?

[Ronnie]

That's such a Greek sunset. Oh, my God. It's like, you're not having as much fun as me, you know, is what she's yelling at you the whole time on vacation, and I'm like, I just want to be away from you. Just be quiet. I'm on vacation.

[Ben]

Well, she's definitely cheating towards the audience, right? Like, she's like, wow, look at this. It's like winking. Like, guys, take a look at this. Salt Lake City, bringing the comedy again. America. It's kind of a vibe.

[Ronnie]

So this has columns, and it has all their commandments on it. And so whenever one of them, you know, goes against their commandment, they get a mark, they get a red mark. And so Angie is, you know, not the brightest sometimes. So she's trying to figure it out. She's like, wait a minute. So this is our a list of commandments. So wait, if we get a mark, does that mean that we've done something good or bad? Don't have game night with Angie.

[Ben]

Yeah, they're strikes. Strikes against you. And so Bronwyn's like, okay, well, I'm going to regret this. Yeah. No, I put this up because of. No, originally it was supposed to be. You know, it's supposed to be like a funny thing, like a reverse sticker chart. You know, the sort of comedy that comes from calling out your friends for acting like bitches. And then we see a flashback to a day earlier, and Bronwyn's put it up, and Meredith is watching, and she's like, well, if we all are going to stick to our commandments that we made. So, you know, if I said something about someone's family, they would come back and they'd, like, put a block on that square. And Meredith's like, I'm not sure I understand that. And even if I did, are we supposed to put up gold stars? Because I used up all my gold stars putting them on Brooks's door because he's the best little toddler in America.

[Ronnie]

Well, we're always acting like kindergarteners, and so this is what kindergarteners do. So it's a sticker chart. And I think if you see your entire column in red, then that's bad. And maybe that'll be, like, a little motivation to change your behavior.

[Ben]

Their behavior is nationally televised, and it is ridiculed by the Internet en masse every single year, and no one has changed.

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

I don't know if, like, a little red ink on the wall is going.

[Ronnie]

To do anything, but, you know, have fun trying. So Bronwyn's like, well, you know, people with the least marks all by price. You stick to your commandments. You know what I mean? You know what I mean, guys? And Heather's like, wait a minute. So that means we win. I'm already in the lead.

[Ben]

And Angie's like, I'm not getting a prize. And. And Bronwyn's like, I'm just hoping the sheer humility and embarrassment will turn some of this behavior around. Yeah, again, no.

[Ronnie]

That's.

[Ben]

That's. No, you're.

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

So Heather's like, well, I don't want any checks. I want to have my record clean and pure. Let's give Lisa more checks. And then she can say, I didn't do that. Dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss. Dismissed. Dismissed.

[Ronnie]

Then we hear echoes of dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss. Dismissed. Dismissed. This mess must. So they go outside, and Angie's. There's not much room between the door and the pool. So Angie's, like, walking around the. Along the ledge and acting like she's going to fall off the building. And everyone's like, oh. Oh, God, this is funny. Do you see Angie? She's walking along the ledge. Hilarious.

[Ben]

I feel like I am Joseph Smith back in the pioneer days coming Across a lake and not wanting to fall in. Oh, dear God in heaven, please save us this sisterhood.

[Ronnie]

And then we find out it's a Mother's Day again. Because, you know, Whitney comes out, she's like, happy Mother's Day. And so they're all wishing each other happy Mother's Day. And Heather is saying, best Mother's Day ever. I mean, honestly, I know I'm not supposed to say that, but hug Mother's Day. I mean, on a girls trip with no responsibilities, every Mother's Day should be like this.

[Ben]

Brittany is like, well, Mother's Day is usually bittersweet for me. And so it's nice being around other mothers, but at the same time, it's a little difficult seeing how other mothers relate to their kids in an uncomplicated, normal way when I have a really complicated, nuanced relationship. Is it complicated or did you just abandon her for several years? I mean, I think like, you've had a few chances to simplify that situation and. And you haven't. So Brittany's like, can I point something out? Just like we're light and bright and having fun and there's one person that's missing. I wonder who that is.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So you're blaming Meredith for not being there for you guys to pound her and like dogpile her. Then you, then you're like, wow, it's so fun without Meredith. Not for long, because you all won't have a toy for very long. Leave her alone. Leave her alone for too long. And they'll be coming for you next, Madame.

[Ben]

That's right.

[Ronnie]

So let's see. So Heather is, you know, really upset about Meredith still. And so she tells a really damning story about Meredith. She's like, this morning I saw her, I was trying to make coffee, but the coffee machine was broken. And she was very maddish. She was very maddish. I could tell. I could just tell she was going to get mad because she tried to get coffee and Angie said, it's broken. And then Angie was trying to fix it and Meredith was sitting so mad.

[Ben]

Heather been around someone who drinks coffee before? Like this is a normal emotional response to the coffee machine being broken. You wake up in the morning, you're dealing with a whole bunch of bitches. You're tired, you're hungover, you're jet lagged, and all you are looking forward to is just a nice little cup of coffee. And then the coffee machine's broken on what's supposed to be some sort of five star luxury, you know, accommodation so, yeah, I would be mad too.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Don't take it.

[Ronnie]

Don't take it personally. You know, she's mad at the coffee. Geez. She's mad at the Keurig. Who's. Who hasn't been there.

[Ben]

Yeah. Who hasn't been? Everyone. Like, half the point of coffee is that, like, coffee makes you feel better because nor. And then when it's not there for you, you're. You're grumpy. And that's just how coffee is. That's. That's coffee culture.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but it's also Heather's like, wow, I just yelled at her at dinner again last night after she tried to give me a peace offering. I wonder why she's still mad. This is so crazy. Like, I'm going to enrage somebody and then I'm going to act like a huge victim when they're mad the next day, which, you know, is typical. So she's like, you know, Meredith refuses to acknowledge my experience, and last night's dinner was no different. I mean, I just shouldn't keep having the same discussion, I guess. But I'm just holding out hope that Meredith will swallow her pride for the sake of our friendship.

[Ben]

Lady, she just wants coffee. Okay, so Brittany is like, angie, okay, like, what are we doing? What's. What's happening next? And Angie's like, well, first we need to find Meredith. So Mary goes in to find her, and Angie's like, lisa Bronwyn, Mary and myself are going to ride donkeys. Oh my God. Are you kidding? Are we really. Oh my gosh. Like, we're really going to like, go ride donkeys. That's like, crazy right now. Oh my God. I love that. I love a donkey.

[Ronnie]

I thought I would put asses on asses. These are two asses. And then Meredith, Brittany, Heather, and Whitney. And Whitney's like, well, oh, that's an interesting combo. She's like, yes, are going to Greek cooking class. And Whitney's like, why do you hate me all of a sudden?

[Ben]

Even though I'm really frustrated with Meredith, it might be nice to spend some good one on one time with her at cooking class. And then Brittany is like, are there just, like, not enough donkeys on the island for all of us? Like, what about me? So Whitney's like, yeah, because every time Meredith opens her mouth, Lisa is piping in and wait, what happens when Meredith talks? I'm confused.

[Ronnie]

So now we go to Mary, seeing if Meredith is okay, and Meredith is in full on victim mode, where her head completely tilted to the side and she's just looking down, shaking her head like so. She's like, are you okay? She's like, well, I'm very tired. I'm being treated like I'm a piece of dirt on the floor.

[Ben]

If I'm gonna be treated like a piece of dirt, please don't be dirt on the ground. I'd like to be dirt on a seat. So Mary's like, well, so what do you want to do? Well, I really don't know. I mean, the good news is it's Mother's Day, and I know the sound of my toddler calling me from across an ocean is the only thing that will get me through the day. So that's something I'm going to look forward to quite a bit in the future.

[Ronnie]

I'm just not in the mood to deal with them. They are mean girls, and they are mean, and that is it. She's very tired of Whitney making these false accusations. And then we see a flashback to, oh, yeah, alcoholic pill popper.

[Ben]

So good. So Meredith is like. It's exhausting. They are damaging, and she needs to worry about herself and her whole life and stop projecting it onto me.

[Ronnie]

It's giving me like. And Meredith is like, well, I don't think she's taking accountability for how she. She hurt you. Well, she didn't hurt me, Mary, because I don't care what she thinks. Why are you not understanding here? Oh, Meredith is in rare form today. They finally broke her. I mean, I think Meredith came on this trip, you know, doing her whole, like, look what I got. It's like trying to be nice and trying to put everything past her and just start over, and people were not having it. So now, yeah, they've broken her. She's a broken doll. They've broken her neck things or her head is tilted down the whole time, just kind of. Bob.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

You know, they've broken. They've literally.

[Ben]

This is. This is such a great Meredith Marks episode. I mean, this is. Meredith Marks having a pity party is one of my favorite versions of her. I think we talk a lot about Meredith Marks getting angry and yelling at someone, but, like, her. This entire episode is. She's so funny. Every single thing she does. And the way she is so melodramatic. It really brought a smile to my face.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then we go to Bronwyn and Ange, and they're talking about donkeys. And, of course, Angie's already done this. Okay. Sean and Electra and I rode them last time we were here. It was so fun. You're gonna Love it. And so, you know, now we get the activity time, and Lisa's late, so they start leaving her, but she's coming, and she's like, what, are you gonna have me, like, walk alone on the streets of Grace? Come on, you guys. Which is already done in the last episode, so we know she'd be fine. I would be fine with Elisa Solo on a donkey episode. Really? Oh, my God.

[Ben]

She was just like, where are we going? I'm like, on a donkey. Like, literally, like, where's this donkey going? So then they. They get into the sprinter van. By the way, I want to. I want to point out the sprinter van. I think this is such a cool sprinter van. It's got, like, these tan seats with interesting stitching on, and they face each other. They got a little table. I really enjoy it. Just an observation, Ronnie, that's all.

[Ronnie]

Into the sprinter van.

[Ben]

Yeah, I just want to give, like, a little sprinter van review. You know, we're so used to the standard sprinter van setup. I. I enjoyed this one. So they get in.

[Ronnie]

I think it's difficult having that kind of sprinter van, because if you have more people than are supposed to fit in the van, you know how sometimes just fit more people? Like, if you get an Uber large or whatever, and you're trying to get, like, 10 people in instead of eight, you can always slide over on the seats. But this one is, like, individual seats, and they're like, no, you will not get more seats. So I felt like the sprinter van was like, no, Ronnie and his drunk friends in Palm Springs. You'll have to get two of me. And so I was like, fuck off. But I do appreciate the nice individual, you know, I mean, it depends on who's there trying to slide in next.

[Ben]

To you, I guess I just. I gave it points for looking a little different from our standard sprinter van. You know, this is the Santorini sprint sprinter van, which is funny because it's print that fast. It is Greek. So they get in, and, of course, this cast does its best work in a sprinter van. So they get in, and Lisa's pointing. Everyone is like, so you're going cooking, Cooking, cooking, cooking. Donkey cooking. Donkey cooking. And Heather's like, meredith, how do you feel about the groups? How do you feel about this arrangement? Do you want to get mad? Should we talk about it? Do you want to talk about your friend where? I don't even know where we stand. America's like, well, about the groups of who I'm going with, I am not feeling very positive, which is why I'M going to look into the seat belt to the side of me and just stare into it stitching and hopefully find some solace there.

[Ronnie]

Well, it is in hopes of positive outcomes. I mean, if you guys all. Where's that tension in the group? If you gather and you make amends, then the rest of the trip won't be. The rest of the trip can be fun if you make amends. And so she's like, wow, you know, I'm doing her a favor, because donkeys are very sensitive. They could kick her off.

[Ben]

I would. At the same time, I feel like we are robbed of seeing Meredith Marks on a donkey. I feel like it would be like a countess, the way I on the camel moment.

[Ronnie]

So. Because she does bray as well, you know, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

[Ben]

Well, ever since the playing, it's clear that how I speak is not okay. No one wants to hear what I have to say. I've been told not to speak. I have been challenged on whether or not I've seen the rest of crazy rich Asians. And I've explained, I fell asleep. I wasn't even aware that there was mahjong in it. But I've been told that the way I speak isn't good enough. And apparently I'm too uneducated and I speak too eloquently. And I guess I'm just, like, the wrong one here. I mean.

[Ronnie]

I was laughing at that. Apparently, I'm too educated and speak too eloquently to even have a discussion with you. Yeah, like, they never said that.

[Ben]

But I love no one ever.

[Ronnie]

I love that that's how it is in her head. Like, you were just too intelligent. Meredith, please, please stop being so eloquent. How are we supposed to fight with this?

[Ben]

Well, it has nothing to do with your education. I, too, am educated. It had to do with the fact that you're being pretentious and not connecting with me as a friend. You were dictating to me. You were, like, teaching me. It was condescending. And I did imitate you because it was fucking frustrating. And it's not my job to get you to be a friend to me. It's a sisterhood.

[Ronnie]

Oh, God. So she gets a phone call. It's like, mom, Mom. Her ring is just Brooks saying, mom.

[Ben]

Mama.

[Ronnie]

Mama. Oh, Britney's first word. So she gets on the phone in her mommy voice. She's like, hi, honey. And Brittany's like, she's taking a phone call. I can't believe this. Yes, honey, I did mush up some. Some sweet potatoes and left them in the fridge for you. Honey, I miss you too. I mean, I wish I was there to be to myself.

[Ben]

And then she's just like, you know, she's like, it's my son wishing me a happy Mother's Day. I'm sure you can all understand. Did you put the little ring on top of the big ring on top of the bigger ring?

[Ronnie]

So the producer is asking Heather. Well, she picked up a call in the middle of your argument. I mean, wow. What do you think of that, Heather? She's like, hold on. My daughter is called as well. Sweetie, sweetie, I know you're 22, but you must have. You just have to smooth the dollar out before you put it into the machine, okay? Oh, you too, darling. Happy Mother's Day to you, too. I'm sorry, was that bothering you? Was that bothering you?

[Ben]

Yeah. Except the thing is that your version of it, Ronnie, somehow was a fraction of the length as Heather's version. This thing went on for so long. Listen, as someone who kills jokes regularly every single day, who takes them too far too long and kills many a dead horses, even I'm saying, whoa, Heather, this. This was going on too. This was like, come on, let's. Let's.

[Ronnie]

I was trying to do the audience a favor, okay?

[Ben]

It went on. I was like, is this still going? Has her little. Is her little bit still going? Okay.

[Ronnie]

And it's really funny because she gets, of course, supremely offended that Meredith takes this call. But I read Heather's first book, and in that book, she's complimenting Meredith on one of her traits, being that no matter what is happening, she doesn't care if she's in the middle of a meeting, she doesn't care if she's in the middle of dinner with friends, wherever she is, if the kids call, Meredith answers on the first ring. And that was something I just remember always thinking was so funny because when we first met her. Well, when I first met her a couple years ago, that's what she did was like. We were talking. It was like three people talking. And she's like, uh huh. Here's. Well, here's how I feel about it. Oh, hold on. Roxy. Huh? Hi. Hi, honey. She just picks it up right there and talks. So they all know that she does this. And it's Mother's Day. So now they're gonna make this the biggest deal and be like, I can't believe you are taking a phone call after we just tried to Start a fight with you over the same thing we've been fighting about for six weeks? How dare you, ma'? Am.

[Ben]

So then Meredith does the next great thing, which is that she then litigates this whole matter in front of Brooks. She goes, well, honey, I love you, but I'm getting yelled at to hang up the phone on Mother's Day, which is. And I am a mother, and you are a child, and this is me fulfilling my Mother's Day duty. Sure, sure. I mean, instead of us talking, I guess I just have to hang up on my toddler. Thanks a lot, ladies.

[Ronnie]

So she hangs up, and everyone's super awkward because now Meredith is going to be the biggest victim in the world about it. So she's like, well, I want to be with my family, and I don't want to be here right now. And that's how I feel. Well, she does this movement a lot, where she puts her hand flat out, and then she, like, puts her fingers back in. Like, she's saying, come back. Come back. And that's my favorite Meredith thing. She gets mad. She's like. She's like, well, I'm very.

[Ben]

I've never noticed that, but that's totally right. She's like, oh, look at this. The finger is coming back. I'm trying to bring Brooksie back on the phone. Unfortunately, I'm not able to.

[Ronnie]

And so when she says she just wants to talk to her children, then Heather and Britney are rolling their eyes, and Lisa's like, well, I'm happy.

[Ben]

Increase.

[Ronnie]

Just saying, like, love you, Jack and Henry Pie.

[Ben]

So Meredith's like, it's very normal to take a phone call. And I just wanted a couple of minutes to hear a happy Mother's Day from my son because it was the only opportunity I'd have to speak to him in the next 24 hours. And then. And after that, who knows what might happen? But that's fine. It's just Mother's Day, and I'm just a mother, both, you know, literally and figuratively. I do have a lot of people saying mother to me, so I don't know. I'm not getting more phone calls from more gay people, but that's okay, too. I guess I wouldn't be allowed to speak to them either.

[Ronnie]

Is Mother Day a separate holiday?

[Ben]

Look, I'm upset because I felt like I got raked over the coals, and I felt like all of my track record was thrown out the window, and it totally crushed me. And then you never could even, like, deeply apologize or see that it hurt me. You talked your way out of it. You made it seem like it was quid pro quo, which doesn't even make sense here when it absolutely wasn't. And that's okay. We all fuck up, I will maybe step outside my comfort zone and say, I fucked up. I'm sorry and I love you. I love you and I do not want to put our friendship at risk, but I did not get that from you. And it makes me question when the next morning I wake up and I'm still in trouble, still getting cold shouldered. Like I'm in trouble for you not being okay. And I'm not okay.

[Ronnie]

You are okay. What are you talking about? You started this fight and you did it again last night. I don't know what in the world she's talking about. That she's so victimized. That fight on the plane had nothing to do with you. And you didn't even step in to help the girl who was supposedly so abused. And you said you fell asleep three times. So I'm not really sure how you're victimized, but Heather's whole like, oh, I'm the one who's hurt and you won't even apologize to me. What are you talking about? Now we've gotten to the point where Heather deserves an apology because Meredith called her a liar. That is. I can't. So Meredith is like, well, I am so sorry and I don't know what to say.

[Ben]

Yeah, I love. I love this. That I love Meredith Marks doing the very serious, monotone, insincere apology. Well, I'm so sorry. I don't know what else to say to that. I don't know.

[Ronnie]

But then is it just me you have tension with? I mean, it's Heather and Britney, too. Girls, you want to fight with Meredith now? I've already taken my turn and Lisa's like, okay, you know what? Let's just talk about the real show. Okay? Whitney, her feelings are hurt because, like, she's basically. I want to hear from Meredith. I want. Really? Because you're piping in on Heather's fight right now, as you always do do.

[Ben]

But you're doing it again. This is what I say happens every time she goes gray rock. And you pick it up and you speak for her. What? I didn't pick up a rock. No, I'm just saying, like, what you mean. Because this, this is why we're gray rocking. Because nobody says what they mean. That's all I am doing. It's Mother's Day and I had to hang up on Brooksy. That's it.

[Ronnie]

But why do you feel like I'm always after you married S. I don't know. I don't know, Whitney. Why would that be? She's just like, you are, Whitney. That's why you can't. You can't say that I am, because I'm not.

[Ben]

You're spreading rumors that I have mental health or substance abuse issues, and I'm not interested in your opinions anymore.

[Ronnie]

Well, it seems like you are, though. And Heather's like, meredith, don't be an ice queen. Like, feel with your heart what your friend is saying to you. Maybe feel with your heart that she doesn't like being accused of having substance abuse issues. That's what she just said. Why is that not good enough for you? She has to be crying. Like they say, say what you feel. She says what she feels. And then they're like, no, you have to be crying while you say it. What do you people want? What do you want? You're breaking Meredith.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's like, well, she's projecting lies onto me, and I'm not interested anymore. There, you said it. Yeah. When he's like, I'm not projecting lies onto her. What am I, a film projector? And the movie is lies? Ha.

[Ronnie]

Britney's like, but that's her experience. Oh, who cares? I'm so sick of this. Like, but that's my experience. Your experience is wrong, and you're telling it wrong. Okay? Like, you don't get to lie and then just be like, oh, it's my experience. So that's the true opinion. No, your parents. Your. Your. Your experience sucks. There. That's my argument. So Lisa's like, well, okay, because there's more silence because Whitney goes, can you just please help me understand why you feel that way? And Lisa says, cause you called her a pill popper, okay? And you said, she's a cheater. I mean, duh. It's like, but I'm on a hair from Meredith. I'm on a hair from Meredith. Lisa, this is so unfair for me.

[Ben]

Well, I'm sure you do want to hear from me, Whitney, and I'm sorry that you feel that. That's all I can give you.

[Ronnie]

But you just said that you called her. You were accusing her of having substance abuse. She already said it. She said a full sentence, and she said, why? She's mad at you. Why do you need her to say it 10 more times?

[Ben]

Yeah. So then they arrive, they drop off all the people who are going to the cooking class, which, of course, is Heather and Whitney and Meredith among. And then. And Brittany. And then Meredith. Meredith just, like, walks off, because the rest of them go to the cooking class. Meredith is like, I'm gonna walk in this direction until I get to wherever I need to get to, and that's what I'll do. So the rest of them go meet Giovanni, their cooking instructor. And while they. While they're all getting situated, we keep cutting back and forth to, like, the happiness of, like, oh, well, come on. Come to the cooking class. And then Meredith be like, clock. She, like, sniffles her way down the streets of Santorini trying to figure out.

[Ronnie]

Cobblestones in her heels. She's like, all right, well, this is not as easy as I thought it would be. I'll tell you that right now. And Heather, you know, gets there with her over exaggeration with Giovanni. She's what? Giovanni? Your name is Giovanni? This is crazy. We're gonna cook everybody with Giovanni. He's Greek. Giovanni. He's like Zeus. I mean, he's like. He's not the Greek God, I imagine, but he will definitely do, like, okay.

[Ben]

Our friend Angie is Greek, and her family's from Crete. And he's like, oh, really? Well, we have a lot to talk about later. She's gonna be joining us later, and hopefully Meredith will have joined. Maybe she went off to ride the donkeys. Yeah, donkey riding in a Miniscar. It would be itchy. Ha.

[Ronnie]

Then we cut to Meredith. Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. And this little yellow car stops. And I thought the little yellow car was gonna pick her up, and she was gonna get in it, and I was really hoping for that, but she didn't. It just kept passing her. I was like, get out of the road. Get out of the road. Somebody said mother to me today.

[Ben]

So over the donkeys, they're. They're arriving. They're talking to, like, the donkey. Donkey owners. And Lisa's like, oh, my God. Hi. Nice to meet you. How are you? Are the donkeys nice? Like, yes, but of course. Do they bite? Yes, of course. They bite. Yes, of course. And then finally, Angie's like, it translates. Because he has no idea what she's saying. He just knows. He doesn't translate.

[Ronnie]

Lisa keeps going, tell him, but I don't think he understands. Angie, ask him if it bites. And Angie goes, does it bite? And he's like, no. Yes, of course. And she says, no, bite. Yes, of course. Bite. Yes, of course. I was like, angie, it's not Greek to just keep saying the same English word over and over to The Greek person. Angie's like, my five words of Greek do not cover this situation.

[Ben]

I just love that when Lisa asked, does it bite? He's so happy. Like, yes, of course. Like you. You came here to get bitten, right? That's like, part of the appeal.

[Ronnie]

The customer is always right. You just say yes to anything. So Lisa's like, is this a boy or a girl? I don't even know. I don't. I won't. I won't ride a boy. And he's like, they're both girls. And she says, yeah, I've never been on a donkey before. She looks like a snippy little bitch, but she's beautiful. And he goes, oh, thank you. You're beautiful. You're beautiful too. She's like, oh, my God, thank you.

[Ben]

The donkey's like, one moment, I'm getting a phone call from my toddler. Hi. Oh, I guess. I'm sorry. I guess I have to do a donke ride now. But it's the only time I can speak to my child. That's okay.

[Ronnie]

It's hard not to look cute when you're standing next to an ass. So they start riding and Lisa says, what do you call a donkey that has a degree? A smart ass. Okay. What do you call a donkey that has a degree and keeps lifting up its shirt at parties because they're male centered? A good time smart ass.

[Ben]

Yeah. I love how Lisa brings out all her good material for the donkeys. It's like, yeah. What do you call this is the.

[Ronnie]

Happiest we've seen Lisa all season is with the donkeys.

[Ben]

What do you call it when. When you're in a car and you're about to, like, get into a different lane and then the donkey puts its hoof on the wheel and it's like, stop it. It's called driver assassed. Assassed. Get it, guys? Driver assassed ass.

[Ronnie]

That is a good one. When my dad lived in his village, this was the transportation that they had. They didn't even have cars. This is how they got around on donkeys. Uber Eats took a long time back then, and he would pack the mule with groceries and walk it 17 miles down a mountain when he was 10. So that's what I wanted to bring the ladies to. Listen, that's great. I do not want to experience this. You know what I mean? Like, I'm glad. I'm sad that your dad went through that, but can we go to Disneyland now?

[Ben]

Seriously, I would love it if, like, Louie was just, like, lying to Angie. All these times like when Angie was like a little girl and she wasn't doing her chores, that he was like, you do your chores. You know, when I was your age, I walked 17 miles with a donkey with groceries on its back. And it's like totally like a lie just to get her to do her like do the dishes.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. When Angie refused to get milk on the way home from school, he's like, oh, really hard for you. Try 17 miles on a donkey up a canyon.

[Ben]

Oh, you can't pick up the milk. Oh, I'll tell you who picked up the milk. I did. Every single day with donkey Its back. 17 miles. 17 miles. And you know, it was like reblocks. But he's like, 17 miles.

[Ronnie]

This is important to me because for me it is much deeper because it is a glimpse of my dad's childhood and I pictured this 10 year old little boy and how grateful he was just to have a donkey while we drive Porsches and Range Rovers. We're so blessed. We're so blessed with our lives.

[Ben]

I love. It's like a peep show. It's like a peep show when they have a moment of introspection and gratitude. Like the, the thing comes up and you see the gratitude and then the shield comes all the way back down again. They just go back to being materialistic and self centered. Like wow, that was a. That's real.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Ben]

Can you imagine we take for granted that we drive these Porsches. Anyway, let's get back to. Let's get.

[Ronnie]

I know.

[Ben]

Going into our.

[Ronnie]

It's like poverty. It's like, wow. Remember a time when people didn't have iPhones? Look at the poor people. Take a picture. Okay, let's go back to the resort.

[Ben]

Yeah, let's go back. Then Mary is on her donkey and she's like, is anyone else not enjoying this besides me? It's like, why are we on a donkey?

[Ronnie]

Why you like it? Mary. Why? Why Mary? And she's like, well I just feel bad for this little boy. I mean like I'm on his back. It's so nice to hear somebody say that because these people do not need us on the back. And you remember when the cast of Shahs went on like horses, I think they went horseback riding. And I was like, you know what? This cast does not need you all on them.

[Ben]

This cast of horses, it was a crossover event.

[Ronnie]

You're abusing the horses at this point. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So they're 10 courses on camera. They like literally just ate 10 courses. And then they get on a horse. You know those horses.

[Ben]

Vera tells us. I didn't see Greece coming with riding a donkey. Like, you've got all these beautiful views. You got the water and my outfit's cute. I look cute, but I'm on a donkey. Like, why did you do this to me? So now we go back to the cooking class and this Chef Georges comes out. I made him. I don't know if it's actually. It's pronounced as Georges, but I feel like anyone named anyone who's a chef should just be pronounced George instead of George. And Heather's like, so tell us everything. What are we making today? Pray tell? What does Zeus from Mount Olympus? What has he brought down for us? Is it ambrosia? Is it wine? Is it grapes? Please take us into your land and perhaps bring us back to the council of the gods. Like, okay, ma'.

[Ronnie]

Am.

[Ben]

Okay, we're just making moussaka. That's it. It's just moussaka.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's Greek moussaka to be specific. He's like, it's Greek moussaka. Oh, thanks for the specificity. And Heather's like, are you kidding? We got our own little moussakas that we get to. We're making our own moussakas. Wow.

[Ben]

Wow.

[Ronnie]

Girls like, they know they're all there. Why are you announcing everything like you're a game show host? Just let them make a fucking moussaka, for Christ's sake, lady.

[Ben]

Yeah. And so then we hear the. Here comes Meredith in classic Meredith form. The classic walk off back.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Tilted hair just kind of swinging in the wind. She's kind of moving it out of her way. And her big guess I'm here. I had no choice but to go back, cuz I'm stranded otherwise. It's not exactly what I want to do, but where else am I going? I can't walk back.

[Ben]

Gonna make the musaka. Or as Brooksie likes to call it, mom soccer. Actually, what he says is, mom's so cool. Which is sort of like moussaka if you think about it. So Giovanni's like, mom sucka. Momsaka.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my name is Giovanni. Georgia, beautiful lady, please join the beautiful cooking lesson. And she's like, wow, lovely. Thank you for welcoming me.

[Ben]

Hush tones, Hush tones mode has been activated. Thank you very much for inviting me.

[Ronnie]

Thank you. I appreciate for inviting me and welcoming me.

[Ben]

Do this. Does this moussaka need to be seasoned with the salt of my tears? Cuz I'll be over here crying in the corner.

[Ronnie]

Okay, well, yamas Yama. So they all do it and they drink, and Meredith doesn't. She's like, well, I'm glad they can enjoy their wine while their friend is living in misery as their baby toddler doesn't get to speak to her. So now they cook. And, you know, Heather's still freaking out that she's making moussaka in a little terrain.

[Ben]

So, Giovanni, this guy is actually so nice. He sees that one of the people at the table is clearly upset, so he sort of goes over to her and he's like, what is happening? Are you okay? Just. I'm okay. Thank you very much. You're very gracious. Can I help you? Honestly. Honestly, how can I help you? You're very kind, but unfortunately, some of the women haven't been so kind. And I'm sad. And I miss my son on Mother's Day, and I. I won't get to talk to him. It's just. It's very, very sad.

[Ronnie]

Well, the wine makes us so happy, which is hilarious. You're telling a table of women that wine makes you happy. You're telling a table of mothers that wine makes you so happy. Trust me, they know. But he's also telling her right after they've been accusing her of being an alcoholic. So she's like, well, yes, be nice to have something that can make me happy without my friends calling me an alcoholic right here on national television. So you enjoy your wine, Giovanni. Okay. But some of us are not so lucky on Mother's Day.

[Ben]

Well, Giovanni, or should I say Zeus from up high on Mount Olympus. She's not happy. No, I. I'm not happy. Not happy, Giovanni. I'm not happy at all. Don't. Please don't ask any questions. Why? I'm just not happy. Very sad in the corner.

[Ronnie]

It's gonna be okay, Meredith. No, it's not gonna be okay, because Bronx is on a flight and I will not speak to him on Mother's Day. It seven hour flight someplace where he will never be able to speak to me again. And that was my only chance to talk to him. And I'm sad. And then that's the one thing that's very important to me. And I'm hurt, and I'm very sad.

[Ben]

Circumnavigating the globe in a plane is trying to set a world record for most hours that a toddler has been around the moon and more around the earth, and I will not get to talk to him before his monumental flight. It's just very sad. And I think I'm allowed To be sad for Brooksie, by the way. Brooksie is the one. Brooksie is the one who booked a flight on Mother's Day. Brooksie is the one who. Who is at fault here. Brooksie should be waiting there until he does not get on a plane until he has a good conversation with his mother.

[Ronnie]

I rescheduled my flight so I could say, hey, mom. Sup? That's all I needed. And then Britney has the nerve to go, well, I didn't get to talk to my kids for three years. Abandoned yours. So please, please stop. You're lucky they even let you talk about Mother's Day on this show because you should be banned.

[Ben]

Yeah, it doesn't really work that way. America's. Well, of course it's all about you. Okay, wonderful. Well, at least you have a daughter who can call you. But my son is now he's trapped in the sky, and now I will not be able to talk to him. So thank you very much.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Britney's mad and she's like, really? I mean, she can't even feign happiness for a sweet host. I mean, like, he's working his little heart out. I mean, it just feels like Meredith is using this not being able to talk to me. Brooks thing is a deflection to not have to answer hard questions. She's answered the questions. Here's what's happening. You guys won't stop. And now she's going to make you pay for it for the rest of the episode. Is it fun for me personally? Yes. Is it fun for the group? No. But you guys, you guys sewed it. Reap it, reap it, suckers.

[Ben]

You guys sewed it. So Whitney's like, I'm sorry, you missed the opportunity. So now over by the donkeys, Lisa's like, I wonder how cooking's going. I. I wonder if they're able to make as many funny jokes about asses the way I have, Cuz asses are like, hey, you know, I said to the. My accountant, I said, hey, you. You could. You're like a donkey that's in a chair. You're dealing with assets. Got it?

[Ronnie]

And Bronwyn's like, I can't imagine it's going well. Well, you know what? I feel like these little things become exacerbated. Like, you know what? There's situations that can be resolved in conversation. You know what? All you need to do is get like some. Some poster boards and just like write stuff on them and put them in front of people's faces because people here can't read poster boards. That's how to solve a fight, you know, but it can be overwhelming if you're in it.

[Ben]

Yeah. Well, the thing is, is in a friendship, you have to be comfortable with being fallible. Sort of like how when Heather asked me if Todd made out with someone and farted, I was like, I don't want to talk about this. It's like, that's what I'm talking about. Being comfortable being fallible and like, just.

[Ronnie]

Be fallible, you know, Or. Or call everybody a liar and say that you never said that in the first place. That would be fun. That's a good one to do. Or just tell them. Just sealed. Just say the case is sealed. That's how to do it.

[Ben]

Just being fallible. And it's people. We make mistakes. Sometimes we take the cherry off the person we loves. The Naz split before they're ready to have the cherry. And if someone. If you want to have deep friendship with someone, you just have to let them see the parts that aren't good.

[Ronnie]

And as hard as it is, she also has to own what she said and not just wait for you to come to her rescue and you and talk her way out of it for her because you have been helping her and maybe you should step back so she has to find a voice.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's just like, so hard for me to step back. It's like really hard. Just mainly because, like, my heels don't, like, support that kind of movement. And Angie's like, but she wants you to keep doing that for her. And she. So she doesn't have to do it. And that's the thing. Meredith and Heather have to figure it out for themselves if they're going to have a relationship. You can't figure it out for them.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, I hear what they're saying, but, like, it's going in one ear and not the other ear because I'm like a real loyal friend. I'm never going to. To stop defending, you know, that. That. That whore who poses like the poses. The poses with her family of posers. I'm never going to stop defending her. It's like the biggest in New York. I love her.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. Slept half of them in hunting. Yeah, well, yeah, she's like. She's like a great. I'm like a great friend to her, and she's like a great friend to me. Mary's like, I don't know. Something's off with Meredith. I'm feeling something is off.

[Ronnie]

So now the donkey ride girls. Girls. The donkey riding girls Go to the cooking class. And Heather's like, oh my God, it's the girls from the donkey ride. Can you believe it everybody? They smell like donkey.

[Ben]

They trekked from high and low across lands aplenty, through sun, through rain. And they have made it here to greet us with their friends ship.

[Ronnie]

It's like, oh my God, relax. You know what? I love donkey riding so much. I love my donkey. I love that I have five now.

[Ben]

Yeah, we had fun. But you guys came back have twice as much energy as us. Did they feed you guys moussaka too? Well, they're outlapping us on the fun department.

[Ronnie]

Amir is like, so did you guys talk? I mean, you didn't get anywhere. You didn't talk. And Heather's like, well, Meredith expressed that she was express upset about Mother's Day. You want to talk about that? That part? Meredith so talkative today. Why don't you talk about it, Meredith?

[Ben]

Well, just that I'm not going to get to talk to my son and just made me sad. I'm going to shrug to show how sad I am. Cuz it's been a bit of a rough day and it would have been nice for me to talk to Brooksie, but I didn't get to. I love that by the way. Chloe's like not a factor here. It's like at or's Reed, it's like, well, you know, you could. You can still speak to Chloe and Reed. Not as good as Brooksie. He's like really the most fun on the phone. Like I just. If I'm not talking to Brooksie, why even bother with the other two? I mean, they're all slicing a lemon together.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Joe, you're sad about your children. Well, join the club. Meredith, you're not in that club. You're so happy to not be around the kids.

[Ben]

You say, yeah.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, but you're not that true. What you're really upset about is all of it. She goes, well, of course I am. And that's what I was telling you, Heather.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, when it comes to your emotions, I think it really has nothing to do with Mother's Day. And it has to do with like our feelings and our relationships and our friendships. Well, am I allowed to just be like upset for like five minutes? Okay. I tried to walk away and it was very difficult. Cobblestone Street. So I have to come back here and cry.

[Ronnie]

But you don't get to use that as a detour when we're so we're all begging you to be A part of the group again, Meredith. And I'm here. I'm just showing up for my girl and having a great time. Because we knew we were going to be in Greece on Mother's Day Day. We all chose to be here.

[Ben]

And Romwood's like, it's not a surprise that it's Mother's Day. Okay. We knew we'd be here. Okay. They even arranged for us to be able to give someone a bob. Just us, so we could feel like mothers again. Well.

[Ronnie]

What. I'm gonna say this on Bravo again because not enough people are saying ground zero, so let's just go back to ground zero. Come on, guys.

[Ben]

Does you know? Is it.

[Ronnie]

Why do people keep saying that? Let's go back.

[Ben]

Did you know about square one? Is it square one? Yes.

[Ronnie]

Let's go back to square one would work, but ground zero is just not the place of the destruction, you know? Yeah, that's. Sorry, go ahead, Ben.

[Ben]

That was. I was supporting you. That just said we don't need to.

[Ronnie]

Oh, thanks for the support. You're a real donkey. So you know what? That's where Whitney and Meredith are not getting along. Because Whitney feels like one way and the Meredith feels another way. That's just sad.

[Ben]

Lisa's hilarious because everything. She's now trying to chime in and sound more neutral, but she's just saying generic things. Yeah, guys, Meredith feels one thing and Whitney feels another thing. See, look, I'm very neutral. And so Whitney's like, what I said about you, Meredith, look at me. What I said about you. Pill popping and alcoholism is a very slippery slope, and it's not appropriate. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I called you those names. Meredith, I'm sorry. Look at me.

[Ronnie]

No, Meredith just goes, okay, great.

[Ben]

She does.

[Ronnie]

She goes great at the end. I never should have called Meredith those things. But it doesn't take away my concern for my friend. She's like, well, I never should have called her an alcoholic and a pill popper, but she is, so whatever.

[Ben]

See, what she should have said was I needed to. I needed to say something extreme to get your attention, which is. I thought what she was gonna say, but instead she's like, no, I just shouldn't have said upset it. So Andrew's like, opa. There we go, making headway. And actually Giovanni goes, opa yamas. So they cheer. And Angie's like, now the man that. Now that's the man you should be looking to get a phone number from. And Heather's like, how do you know That I don't already. Did you see his Rolex? We've been hooking up. What? What's your version of hooking up? Mine means just hanging out. What? Why would you think that? We had sex.

[Ronnie]

Sorry. I was missing for a while, guys. I was around with Giovanni. Did I say that?

[Ben]

So now they're going to get ready for dinner and they're back in the sprinter van, and Lisa's like, I keep almost falling asleep. Is anyone else tired? Is anybody else tired? I'm like, if they were tired, they probably. You're probably waking them up again by like, are you tired? Are you tired?

[Ronnie]

Heather's like, nope, not one bit. Just rest to run a fucking marathon. I mean, Whitney's like, are you ever gonna shower? Whitney goes, yeah, but are you.

[Ben]

Like, Whitney's like, I realize I have to apologize to Meredith because I've got bigger fish to fry here, which is that Heather smells like fried fish at the moment.

[Ronnie]

Can we just get Heather shower. I'll put all my fights aside if we can just get Heather to take a shower.

[Ben]

I shower every day. I do it when you're not in the room. A ten to two in the shower. That's what I do. I mean, I should say a 10, 2. 10, 2 in the shower. What does that even mean? Meredith does a 10, 1, 2 every time and she shouts it from the rafters. 10, 1, 2. I mean, heather clearly learned some sort of slang because I've never heard this before. 10, 1, 2. I only know of 6, 7, 6, 7, 6, 7 in Greece.

[Ronnie]

So what do you think this means? I mean, we find out that number one is pee pee, number two is poo poo, which we already knew. But do you think 10 is like 10 minutes in the shack shower?

[Ben]

I think so. But also, why are you doing a two in the shower?

[Ronnie]

Well, I think it just means I'm going peep, I'm going poop, and I'm taking a 10 minute shower. Like, oh. Maybe they say that because they're like, okay, guys, we're leaving in in 20 minutes. Okay, well, I'm doing a 10, 1, 2, so I should be out in time.

[Ben]

I guess I kind of like that. A 10, 1, 2.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm just gonna do a I'm just gonna pee poop shower and I'll be right back out. Take a quick show hour.

[Ben]

Now here's a hot take. I won't. I won't dwell on this because I know this is not your favorite subject matter, but if you're doing the two, you're kind of doing the one at the same time, Right? Why does the one even have to. Oh, I see. Never mind. I was thinking that 10, 1, 2. I'm so stupid. I was thinking like a one minute pee and a two minute poop, but it's just saying the 1. It's confusing because the 10 is referring to time, but the 1 is refer and the 1 and the 2 are referring to the deed. It's all clear in my mind now. Everyone, we can move forward. National nightmare is over.

[Ronnie]

Well, I don't know if that's correct, that the 10 means 10 minutes in the shower. I'm just assuming it's that. I don't know.

[Ben]

Is the 10 just shower? Is that code for shower? Do we have.

[Ronnie]

It's like we have like 10 minutes in the shower.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I don't know what it is.

[Ben]

Oh, 10 is actually doing her nails.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it could be. I mean, who knows? So now they're trying to talk and Heather's like, so what is a 1012 teller? Meredith? And she's like, it means P. No, 1012 is a P and a poo. She goes, oh, well, I thought about. I forgot about the two part. I only do the ten one. I don't poop.

[Ben]

Every is trying to. And Meredith is trying to sleep. She has like her head against the window and she's like, her. She won't open her eyes. She's like, maybe if I just pretend like I'm talking in my sleep, they'll just shut up and leave me alone. Two means poop. Good night.

[Ronnie]

I like that. She was like, well, I was sleeping. She like, she like jerks her jaw. She does like a Kirsty. Kirsty, what's her name? Not Christie Alley Ali Sheedy in the bus. So they talk about this 10, 1, 2 thing a lot. And Braun was like, oh, Angie did attend to before we went on the donkey and I had to use the men's room because she was taking so long.

[Ben]

I did not. I did a 5/2 10 1. And then your donkey did a big old 10 2. And then Mary's like, he did. Because mine not did one after Braunwyn's and mine had a normal bowel movement. And here's he had diarrhea Maria. And we see like footage of the donkeys pooping on the sidewalk.

[Ronnie]

Oh my God, it's so watery. So then they get home and they. They decide to have a pool day. So they're all getting into their swimsuits. Butler brings out flowers. They do have A butler. There you go.

[Ben]

Oh, you're right. You're right. And they're having fun. And Angie's like, we have tequila. And Lisa's like, I'm not drinking that. I only drink my own. It's like, it's okay, Lisa. You can drink a competitor's tequila when you're on vacation. We will not hold it against you.

[Ronnie]

You. So I read that was. Angie is. Angie has a partnership with some other tequila. And so she. She's been trying to show her tequila all season, but they won't show it. They keep. They keep cutting it out. And Lisa's like, yeah, I'm not gonna drink yours. I only drink my own. Huh.

[Ben]

It's very Kathy Hilton for that to happen. So Meredith comes out, and she's in, like, a cute little number, like, a bathing suit, but it's like, a business. It's like. Like, it's typical Meredith, where it's like a bathing suit, but also looks like it's. She could, like, have a meeting in it. And they're like, meredith, wait a second. And then she take. They're like that. You're supposed to be wearing a bathing suit. And then she's like. And then she drops the bottom part, and there's bikini bottoms on, and she's.

[Ronnie]

Hello, honey.

[Ben]

My fa. I do love the Meredith Marks vacation pivot because she does this. I mean, I think season two, there were many vacation episodes where she was screaming at people, people. And then they just wind up in a hot tub just, like, laughing and joking. She really can do it. She can just turn it all around.

[Ronnie]

She also has more business casual bathing suits than anyone I've ever seen. Like, where do you even get those? Like, she has, like, business suit bathing suits. It's so funny that she pulls so many of them out. So now they decide they're gonna have fun by doing a doggy paddle race, which I don't think they know what doggy paddling means because they pull breaststroke. This was not thank you paddle.

[Ben]

I was so. Was really Whitney, who was doing the breaststroke. I was like, this is not a doggy paddle at all. Like, you do not know what you're talking about. So they do it, and it's Whitney, Meredith, and Britney, which is shocking because Meredith is with her two sworn enemies of the season. And now they're all happy that Meredith is happy. And then Meredith also cheats, and, like, you cheated. She's like, I know, but you're gonna win. And I got mad. And they're.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So she gets flowers from From Broxley, Brooks and Chloe. And Lisa's like, oh, my God, Aunt Jay, do you. Do you usually come here? Do you get any other cuisines other than Greek stuff? And she's like, well, actually, Electra gets sushi and Heather's like, Elektra's rejecting everything. Greece, including the food.

[Ben]

Does she identify as Greek? Well, right now she identifies mostly as just her horse stuff. I was like, I don't know horse, if horse stuff is a nationality. But she. That's like her thing. That's her life. She's a teenager, School friends, and then she rides five to six days a week for America.

[Ronnie]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, like school friends. I remember those days. Sneaking mini skirts into your bag. Do you get. Did you guys ever change at school? I did all the time. I did it all the time.

[Ben]

I did. I did twice. And I got busted the second time and I wanted to die. When did you have your first cuss? Do you guys remember when you had your first cast? Heather, Tell us, tell us, tell us. Heather's like, yes, of course I remember. It was just before with Giovanni. What? I mean, we never kiss. Why are you guys saying that?

[Ronnie]

Heather. Heather got one of the hottest guys in our school. And they dry humped.

[Ben]

Wait, you dry humped what? You are a good time girl.

[Ronnie]

Meanwhile, we just see a close up of Mary trying to eat a taco. And she's like, I don't think the shrimp. Shrimp is dewormed.

[Ben]

I don't know of shrimps.

[Ronnie]

And just keeps eating it. I think she talking about the poo poo line.

[Ben]

Yeah, I love that we pick up on these things. We're like, there. She's doing the breaststroke in the middle of the doggy paddle race, and she's talking about the poop line. So Angie's like, speaking of first kisses, Bronwyn, have you ever kissed a girl? And she's like, yes. Yes. Oh, okay. Okay. How many. Wow. Wow. Did you fart? Did you fart?

[Ronnie]

A handful. Wow.

[Ben]

Did you. Did you go to second pita?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I've done more than just girl kiss. Girls on their pita, guys. Okay? I've done more.

[Ben]

Wow. Second base. You've done second base.

[Ronnie]

Well, I've done more than everybody here with a girl. How about that? Are we clear? Can I get Whitney out, please? Can I get Whitney out here? And Heather's like, I've never kissed a girl. We. Heather's like, I've never kissed a girl. We have morals.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Can we just roll the clip of the black eye night when Heather and Jen Shaw were like wasted, pressing, like lifting up their shirts and pressing their boobs and then making out. We just show that.

[Ben]

Yeah, seriously, morals. So Britney comes out and she like, why do you need help? And, well, they're asking me if I've ever kissed a woman. And I don't want to be the only person here with anything to share, so can you sit down and answer some questions? So she's. Then they, they like, they kiss. And he's like, how did I know that was coming? Oh.

[Ronnie]

I've been told ever since my first kiss that I'm a great kisser. So Brahm would be kind of dry there. But if a pet got her excited.

[Ben]

So none of you guys have kissed a girl. Have you guys ever kissed a very old man who lies were their originals. How about that? Like, no, no, we haven't. Would you want to? And Britney's like, no, no. I've kissed hundreds, though. Hundreds of women? No, of men. You're talking about kissing women. Why are you saying I've guessed hundreds as if that. Okay, well, whatever. So Britney says that she's hundreds of men.

[Ronnie]

She has to remind you that men find her very, very attractive. That's all she's got?

[Ben]

Yes. So she's kissed 367 men. And Lisa's like, how. How do you keep count on your Excel sheet? She's like, yes. So she's been keeping a little spreadsheet. Men. Is it like kissing sessions or is it individual, unique men? 367 is a lot of people.

[Ronnie]

That's insane. To keep a spreadsheet of the men you've kissed since college.

[Ben]

Is that just. That's cuckoo. Is that also like, like friendly kisses where you see someone you haven't seen in a while and you give them a kiss on the channel cheek or is it like full on romantic kiss? It's a lot. That's a lot of people.

[Ronnie]

I don't know, but I'm sure. So it's. It's followed up by a lot of phone calls from Brittany going, are you going to call me? I'm just waiting for you to call.

[Ben]

I'm just waiting.

[Ronnie]

So Mary, Mary is like 300. That's how many people are in my church. And Heather's like, oh my God, what was the first rule you guys broke in your house growing up? Meredith's like, all right, story time. Well, I'm not sure that my mother knows this to the day, so I hope my mother never hears this, but my parents went on a huge trip, so I had an enormous party with all of my friends, and we got together and we made out, ate each other, fucked dudes got lit the fence.

[Ben]

On fire, broke a dish.

[Ronnie]

We broke the dish.

[Ben]

And Brittany's like, ooh, well, yeah, I'm sorry, Mom. And Heather's like, jeeves, bring us the glue. I can't believe this story. Okay, well, Heather, I'm also like, yes, it is. It is ridiculous. It is hilarious. That's the climax of the story. But Heather's entire thing, her entire shtick, is that, like, she lived a very G rated existence, and now she's gonna make fun of Meredith for doing it. No, no, Heather, no. You be in shock.

[Ronnie]

And Bronwyn's like, wow, it only took her 40 years to admit she broke that dish. She'll be like 80 years old and saying, hey, grandkids, guess what? I did something on a plane.

[Ben]

Wentz. That was funny. So Mary's like, so anyone else have any stories? And she's like, the Greek nightlife is calling. Should we go change? Get ready, go out? 1012, everyone. 1012. So they're all gonna, like, get change. And Heather's like, what are we wearing? Are we. We. Are we going to the boardroom? Bikinis?

[Ronnie]

No, boardroom. Meredith, do not dare come out in the blazer. Are. Which she does. I love that. Meredith was like, well, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, which is wear my blazer.

[Ben]

So they get ready, and we see Angie and Mary getting ready. And Mary's gonna stay in, and she's just tired and jet lag, so she's just gonna stay in. And then Bronwyn and Lisa are by the commandment chart, and Lisa's like, I love making these marks. I don't even know why we're doing it. Is this for how many Diet Cokes we're ordering for tomorrow? No, no. By the way, did you put this mark over here? Yeah, that's for Whitney. Like, move it over. Put it on Whitney's.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Heather's like, wow, Whitney, you look like an Australian pummel or an Austrian pummel thrower. You look like you could do the shot put. And Whitney's like, oh, yeah, you better watch your face. And then she throws her gold bag across the room to hit Heather and it misses. And she's like, that was my Prada bag. Bag. Whoops, I broke it.

[Ben]

I don't. Is a pummel. Oh, pummel. Oh, well, I'm not even gonna ask. I was gonna say, is pummel thrower a thing? I know, there's the pummel horse.

[Ronnie]

Anyway, I thought there was a really thrower. Maybe she meant a shot put, I think.

[Ben]

Yeah. Honestly, I can't even make fun of Heather for saying that because a number of times I use the wrong word at the wrong time, you know, I'm just as guilty. So, Heather, you're off the hook with your pummel reference.

[Ronnie]

Pummel thrower isn't a standard term, but likely refers to technique in combat sports or hist martial arts using the pommel for strikes. So, yeah, I think she just got it confused.

[Ben]

Yes. I was like, I will choose this moment not to be a typical person on the Internet and rake her over the coals for saying pummel instead of shot put. I will let her. I'll let her go. You get away with this one, Heather. I got my eye on you. So they have this funny moment, and then they get into the sprinter van. My favorite sprinter van, I'd like to point out again.

[Ronnie]

Oh, hold on a second. I have to interrupt up this podcast because I've got some information. The slang terms 101 and 102 are primarily walkie talkie codes used in film production, but in other fields, they're used for taking a bathroom break. A 101 refers to a quick or short bathroom break, urination, and a 10:2 refers to a longer bathroom break, defecation. So I guess you probably doesn't have to do with the link of shower or a length of shower.

[Ben]

Just added the shower in there.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think it's just 10:1. 10:1, good buddy.

[Ben]

We just tried to make them more efficient. Be like, they're going to do it. They're going to take a shower. I guess they probably hear production. Be like, okay, everyone, we're going to take a 10 one. We're going to take a 10 one. 10 one, everyone. 10 one. They say 10 one on the set.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So there you go, everybody rest well tonight. Now you know the truth as we.

[Ben]

We like to get to the truth. Truth of certain things. What does 101 mean? What does 102 mean?

[Ronnie]

What's important?

[Ben]

Is there such a thing as being a pommel thrower?

[Ronnie]

Okay. Yeah.

[Ben]

Don't say you don't come here to get educated.

[Ronnie]

So they're making fun of Whitney for how she's dressed because she looks ridiculous. I think they're trying to call her a Russian hooker. And Heather's like, svetlana, how do you find America? Lisa's like, oh, my God, you do look like a Svetlana. You do. Is this your Eastern European Olympian Svetlana. And this is her handle, handler and agent. Yeah, if she gets messy, if she's like Shetland faced, you can call her high body count and drunk. So, yeah.

[Ben]

So it turns out that this stupid little jokeyness then leads to our next plot point because Britney goes, guess what? I trademarked high body count. And Angie's like, you did? It's like Lisa's like, that's not yours. You can't trademark that. I stole it. And Lisa's like, oh, my God. I'm asking one of my attorneys, one of my seven attorneys, if we can trade, we can take our trademark. That's crazy.

[Ronnie]

But Lynn, why would you do that?

[Ben]

Well, I'm the one who took it on the chin, that's why.

[Ronnie]

But I think it's super embarrassing that you would go and you would steal that from me. That's a little hardcore. No, not me. No, no. Because it's embarrassing that you would take something and someone else said and that you would patent it. That is crazy. I am the person who has not had a wit. This is the person who has not had a witty line other than ting, ting, ting in her entire life. And she trademarks my line to try and make money off of my line. She's the sidecar on my car trying to get on my gravy tran.

[Ben]

I love Angie's mixed metaphors that this is the sidecar on my car. Like, they're, they're, they're doing some sort of Back to the Future three thing where there's a gravy train and they're on like a little. She's like on a motorcycle and Britney's on the sidecar and they're going to jump on the train, but it's a gravy train. Like, like that has nothing to do with the sidecar red car. I listen, I have to say, I think that, like, this is definitely Angie's phrase. But, like, that's on Angie. If she did not trademark that right away as it started to blow up, that's a bit on her. Like, she should have been on top of that.

[Ronnie]

Well, honestly, it's also on the trademark office. They, they're not supposed to just be handing out trademarks willy nilly. Like, Angie didn't invent that either. I mean, if Angie went to the trademark office and tried to trademark high body count, she wouldn't be able to, she shouldn't be able to. To trademark that because that's been a term since the 80s. Like, why? Like, I mean, I know that Angie made It popular on this show, but that. That term has been around for a long time. Most recently used, as we all know, in the manosphere. You know, like, those, like, red pill guys are always like, oh, yeah, this high body count. Whatever. I've heard it there too. But I mean, I used to hear it, like, the 90s, at least, like, high school.

[Ben]

Yeah. I had never heard it before, so that's why it was so novel to me and so exciting. But either way, like, you know, I think it's shitty of Brittany to do it. No, not the. It's not the worst offense in the world because it's definitely. It's definitely Angie's thing. But this is not actually, if you think about it, this is not unlike Luann taking Giovanni and making it her thing.

[Ronnie]

But, oh, it happened many, many times when they. On Potomac, when they said, oh, what about your husband? We heard he's called Happy Eddie. Like, flirting with people and then they turn Happy Eddie. They trademarked that and turned it into their thing. Or the dungeon cand. Sex dungeon. She made a whole show based on candy sex dungeon. The lie about candy sex dungeon. So you.

[Ben]

You gotta pounce, pounce as soon as possible.

[Ronnie]

In a housewives court of law, you'd lose that trademark.

[Ben]

Yep. And also in, like, real court of law, actually. So Heather's like, you're not flattered at all by it, Angie? She's like, not at all. But were you going to trademark it? And Britney's like, sorry, all's fair in love and trademark. Sorry, Angie, don't be a sore loser. I mean, I don't know what Angie should have gone and trademarked. I have an announcement. Like, that should be the very first thing to do.

[Ronnie]

You can just trademark random words now. I love it. Because that's basically what it is. Like, I can't believe you could trademark that. Nuts. That's literally.

[Ben]

They could have a hostage exchange. Yeah, Like, I will give you. I have an announcement. If you give me high body count here.

[Ronnie]

I'm not that mad. I just think it's kind of embarrassing and weird that you would do that. She's like, but I'm just. I'm the one that had the hair ratted. And she goes, oh, so you think people want their hair to look like. Like this? Is that what you're saying? Like, they're gonna buy your hair product? I mean, come on, Britney.

[Ben]

Well, what's wrong with my hair?

[Ronnie]

I love my hair.

[Ben]

Your hair's gotten better. It's still way too long for your age. No offense. Yeah, When I look at you, it makes me want to cut my hair, because when I see Britney's hair, I'm like, oh, my God, my hair's almost as long as Britney's. And I just think it looks cheap. I'm not even lying. Oh, my gosh.

[Ronnie]

You think my hair looks cheap?

[Ben]

Yeah, I do. Yeah. It makes me want to cut my hair or take a length off a little bit so I just don't look as awful as you do.

[Ronnie]

So rude. So now they arrive at a place called Tango. And we know because Heather goes, oh, my God, we're at Tango.

[Ben]

I wonder if they accept cash here. So Lisa's like, you know, in the summer, I feel like this is probably, like, insane and amazing. Have you been here in this summer? Summer, the time when the Greek gods and goddesses come down from Olympus and celebrate with us simple humans. And we say, please, please take us up to your mount and make us immortal. Like, it's like, okay, Heather, be quiet. Okay, we get it.

[Ronnie]

Do you want to hear my and Bronwyn's new business venture? I'm in a good mood tonight. It's me, Meredith Marks, being in a good mood. They're like, straight, sure. And Bronwyn's like, sure. Well, Meredith asked me if my straw worked, could I drink out of my straw? And I said, it would be great if I had a flask inside that you could drink out of. And then Meredith said, let's trade market. So we got a patent. Ting, ting, ting. We have an announcement. We don't have an announcement because it's a secret flask that goes inside your drink.

[Ben]

And they're like, oh, because actually it's that Braun one has a. Has like a little purse or a bag that looks like a drink, but it's not a drink. So it has a fake straw. But she's saying, no, we are. We are going to patent that there's a real drink in there.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I'm glad you said that, because I thought they were coming up with a flask that's small enough that you put in a glass club.

[Ben]

In a club.

[Ronnie]

And I was like, why don't you just pour it into the glass? I thought it was weird. I mean, I knew it wasn't serious, so I wasn't trying to take it so seriously. But now I see. I see what you mean.

[Ben]

Although that is kind of a real life brain, too. It's like you have a Diet Coke, but what people don't realize is that you put a flask of whiskey in there. Although you could just pour whiskey into the diet.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's what I.

[Ben]

Anyway.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Why wouldn't they just pour it out of the fl.

[Ben]

But the idea is that it looks like a bag, but it's not a bag because it has a flask in it. And they don't have an announcement because they don't want to announce that they have alcohol in their bag.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. That is so creative. And Br's like, very high body count.

[Ben]

Mm.

[Ronnie]

Because Bronwyn is going to jump in on any chance to rag on Brittany, you know?

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

The only person that Bronwyn's not afraid of. She's not going to come after the rest of them because she knows they'll get her ass. But she will bully Brittany any chance she gets, so she jumps right in there.

[Ben]

But, Brittany, it is embarrassing that you would do that. That's like Didzerella. Whitney's like, didn't we have a high body count party for her to support her with her hair there? Because Whitney and Heather are on. They're. They're taking Britney aside, really, in any argument because they're team Britney in the larger war against Meredith right now.

[Ronnie]

Right. They're supporting their pr. You know, they're supporting their partner in the proxy war.

[Ben]

Their puppet. And so Angie is like, look. Look how Brittany's all proud of herself. Like, it was like, she came up with it when she did, and she's. I am proud of myself. I think it's fantastic. And she's like, but what did you do? You have bad hair. And I said it.

[Ronnie]

All you did was have bad hair. You should have trademarked bad hair. She's like, well, I mean, I think that you're strangely jealous of my hair. I mean, look at my hair. And then Angie starts laughing, and Meredith is like, what? And then Bronwyn just starts cracking up. And Brittany's like, well, maybe your hair doesn't curl easily. I mean, I don't know. No one has any problem with my hair other than you.

[Ben]

I'm in my lane. I am in my share lane, babe. It's like, well, maybe there's something about me that's threatening. Like, I literally don't know why you're so obsessed with my hair. Like, my trademarks, my business moves, all that. Like, what's the deal? It's like, there is no jealousy. I think I've been really nice to you.

[Ronnie]

What are you going to trademark split ends next? What is that? You're going to trademark scarecrow hair? They already have that.

[Ben]

Well, you've been nicer except for in the van on our way over. Over here. Yeah, I think it's like, really weird that, like, you trade someone else's line, Brittany. That's like, really weird.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, it's not someone else's trademark, but it is my line. Oh, so just because you thought of the same thing, I'm supposed to give up my trademark to you? Hell no. She thought of. She said the line. She didn't think it's the same thing as you. You didn't think of it.

[Ben]

You didn't think of it. It was. You don't think of your own insults against you. And Brahm was like, he didn't think of the same thing. She said it first about me. But you didn't think of it. Here's the thing. You had some crazy ass hair. She made fun of it. She said it. And Heather's like, angie did not invent high body count here. She said it in a funny way.

[Ronnie]

But she made it famous. Okay? She made it famous.

[Ben]

So if somebody said, you look like a. Then what? Then what?

[Ronnie]

Do you own the word slut? Do you own the word slut now? So Meredith and Bronwyn are cracking up. I was smart enough to do it first, so. Oh, God.

[Ben]

Well.

[Ronnie]

And Angie goes, oh, so now I wasn't smart enough. You sound like a fool, Britney. And she's like, Winnie says, but wait, high body count's supposed to be funny. And I have a high body count outfit on, but low body count hair. And that's what's funny.

[Ben]

Whitney explaining the finer nuances of this trip term. And she's like. And to sit and attack.

[Ronnie]

I have a high body count outfit on, but I have bullied person hair. Trademark that.

[Ben]

Trademark. I'm trademarking chocolate syrup on Justin. And to sit and attack and over over about how someone looks, it's just like. Like I know Meredith doesn't like it when it happens to her. I don't like it when it happens to me. And Brahman's like, I didn't say anything about her hair or her bra sponsor. Don't lump everybody in on this. Meredith and I didn't say anything about her looks. Neither of us said anything. Don't make this a group conversation. Don't even like that.

[Ronnie]

I don't like that. I don't like that. I was generally bullying her. Okay, I was not bullying her. It was just general giggling so she.

[Ben]

Can dishing out to everyone else, but she can't take it because she does. And there's a reason why everyone chimes in.

[Ronnie]

But look around us. Look right now, we're in Palestine. No, we're not. We are in Greek. We are in Greece. And we're supposed to be out having fun. And instead we're hope or fight. Hyper focused on trademarks and hair. When we're in California, we're in Greece. We're in Greece. How could you treat somebody like this when we're in Europa?

[Ben]

Look at this. Look at the view of the Bay of Tokyo. And you're gonna fight about hair. And Angie's like, okay, then let's be done with it. Shockingly, they actually stop fighting. I was like, oh, we're heading towards a big to be continued. Instead, they just cheers and happy Mother's Day. And Britney says, I'm trademarking that.

[Ronnie]

Me coming in to save the day on the bullying charges. You gotta love Whitney.

[Ben]

This is great.

[Ronnie]

Alcoholic pillpop offer. Stop bullying somebody about here.

[Ben]

Great, hilarious episode. And then Salt Lake City is off for a few weeks. At first it was three weeks, and then I guess you saw something that's gonna be. It's gonna be off for two weeks, but either way, it's gonna be off next week for us.

[Ronnie]

For us, it's good for three weeks.

[Ben]

Yes, it'll be off for three weeks, which is tragic. But just for anyone who is interested in just general programming notes, that's the news for that. Thanks. Thanks, everyone, for listening. What a fun show. What a fun, wonderful way to spend a Wednesday.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Love you guys. We'll talk to you next time. Bye.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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