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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Benjaminius.
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Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
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What's going on with you?
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You know, just, it's, it's. We're. It's Monday. We're on the verge of a big holiday break. I am really excited. What's going on with you?
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Excited. Excited. Just that. Just getting ready for Christmas, man. Presents. Presents. And there's so many people. Austin has so many people now. I don't know how we're doing it over here. This. This city is bursting at the freaking seams. Okay? And then they were like, guess what? We're a progressive city. So let's make all of the parking spaces really tiny now so everybody will buy a new car. Guess what? Texans are not going to buy a smaller car because you make them. They're just going to take two spaces and then. Then what?
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It will. It will. Then what? That's a great question.
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Yeah.
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All I know is, I mean, I don't know what's going on with the parking over there in Austin because when, whenever I visited up on Congress street, the way people back into their slanted parking spots, I'm like, what is happening in this city? I mean, I understand Austin's weird, but that's really weird.
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I love that it's my favorite part because, you know, I love some douchebag parking, the backwards parking. So everybody, welcome to the show. I don't know why I'm talking about parking. To open it up. Just roll with it. Okay. It's almost. Yeah, it's almost break time. You're going to be of random today from the both of us.
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Yeah. Yeah. You will.
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A lot. Yeah. Because you know when we're not doing this, you know who I talk to? Like literally nobody here in Texas. I talk to my family. They don't want to hear my nonsense. So I don't really get to say stuff like this. So I have to get it all out right now. Every petty little thing I have to say to you, Ben.
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Yeah. Let it all out. Well, let it all out. Let it flow. Oh, by the way. Oh, wait, no, never mind. No, I thought I had something exciting to say, but I actually don't have something exciting to say.
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Really?
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Yeah, I don't. Because it's something that's embargoed. It's embargoed. Yeah.
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Okay, well, all right, everybody. Well, we'll tell you that secret some other day. But today it's Real Housewives.
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Yeah.
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Today it's Real Housewives of Potomatome. And today is also our final Amazon Live of the year. We will be doing Amazon Live Today tonight, Monday at 4pm Pacific Time. And you find a link for that over at our Instagram @linkinbio. Okay. And that's it. And then tomorrow, today we're also going to do some Married to Medicine and tomorrow we're doing Below Deck and then we're out of here. And also we did a two parter for the Traders over on Patreon. When we come back for the new year, there's going to be a lot on Patreon because that's where Traders is going to go. The recaps for Traders will be on Patreon next season. We're so excited to cover that. But when we come back, oh my gosh, everything's back on. Plus a two hour premiere of the Valley Persian style, which is crazy.
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Yeah, it's going to be a lot on our plates, which is very appropriate for the Valley Persian style. And I just am, you know, we're going to somehow get through that week, but it's going to be a lot. And we're going to have to figure. We're going, we'll figure it out. We're going to, we're going to see, we're going to see how this all goes. Yeah. Yeah.
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So it'll be a lot of laughter, a lot of joy. Okay, everybody, so here we are. Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 Episode 12 Potomac Ponies and Problems.
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So we are still at Wendy and Giselle's July 4th party at the rec center with all the kids. And where we left off, angel was revealing that she needs to be out of her house. And Giselle was like, you know, oh, did you get evicted? Basically. So guess who is feeling sullen about that. Angel. So now she's moping around. And Wendy. Wendy was the one actually who said, like, look, I'm not going to dance around it. The people say, you were evicted, you know, because Wendy's going to take the shot because Angel's being super annoying about this whole catfish thing, and now she's blaming Wendy for it. So Wendy, of course, can be like, I will articulate it on camera and have this stick with you.
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Yeah. And so then angel gives a very confusing answer. She's like, well, I was confused because I was sure. Did I let them know the exact date we were leaving? So that's why I'm annoyed, because if I had known it was July 1, if I would have put myself and my family in a position where we're not having to hurry up and figure out another situation. I was not evicted, homegirl. I was like, you just. You evicted my wakefulness. That's what. Yes, my wakefulness just left my body. Talk less. Talk in shorter sentences.
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So Jazzy and Giselle are talking. And Giselle's like, what happened? And Jazzy's like, well, they were talking about how she's. You know. And when he goes. Her eviction. Eviction. She's like, yeah. And so I was like, well, that sounds very strange. And Stacy's like, well, what exactly is the definition of eviction? Maybe we should look that up. And so then it cuts to Ashley, who starts reading the definition. Siri says, expulsion, ejection, ousting, throwing out displacement, clearance. That's exactly what happened. And meanwhile, my phone just lit up because I said the S word. Sorry, Phone. Sorry. I wasn't actually calling upon you.
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So did everybody's phone who listened to this. She's very sensitive, that lady. You barely whisper her name, and she'll. She'll.
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No is more like it. Nosy. Nosy. Cocktail party effect. You know, the cocktail party effect.
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No. What is that?
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It's a real life.
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Interesting. If I'm drunk at a party.
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Yes. No, it's that, like. Like, you may have difficulty hearing the person right in front of you, but at a cocktail party, you can still somehow hear your name from, like, across the room throughout, through all the noise. It's called the cocktail party effect.
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Oh, yeah, that's. That's a true thing that happens. I wondered if that happened the other night at dinner because there was this humongous guy. I was in the bathroom, and there was. You know, I just, like, sensed this huge presence. Well, I guess not sense. I literally felt. Because he was gigantic and he was peeing next to me. And, I mean, I'm telling you, like, 7ft tall. He was huge and, like, huge and muscular. And he, you know. Then we were washing our hands next to each other, which I was so proud of him for washing his hands, because not every guy does. And he kind of grunted even while he, like, washed his hands. He was like. He was that big. He just, like, makes, like, kind of sounds just as he moves. So then my dad, he was sitting kind of close to us. He was, like, two tables away from us, by the way, dating a really tiny girl. I felt bad for her because I was like, he's gonna break you. But anyway, we were sitting near them, but not right next to them, and my dad said, wow, that guy is humongous over there. Did you see him? I said, yeah, I peed next to him. And he grunts when he washes his hands like this.
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Rah, rah, rah.
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I was like, that guy's a unit. He's huge. I was uncomfortable. I felt like Danny DeVito standing next to that guy. Then we were kind of laughing, not really making fun of the guy. Just, you know, you don't see that every day. And then I left, and he kind of looked at me, and I don't know. I wouldn't say hurt, because he's so big. I can't tell if big people are hurt. But he looked at me kind of like. I thought, was that the cocktail party effect? But I didn't even know what it was at that time. But I was like, maybe he's so. Maybe his eardrums are bigger, too. And he just heard what I said about him. If you're out there listening to this, I'm sorry if I hurt you.
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Well, maybe. Maybe he was doing what I call the coffee shop effect. So the cocktail party effect is when you hear your name across the room. It doesn't matter how loud the room is somehow like that, you hear it. It's like. But what if his survival thing, maybe his name is. But the. Well, I was gonna say the coffee party. The coffee house effect is when you're in a coffee house and you're just, like, having a moment of tranquility, and you're just trying to drink your coffee or maybe trying to do some work, and there's someone all the way across the room, and all you hear is, oh, my God. So this is, like, amazing. And so, like, I went to, like, the. I went to, like, Macy's, and they were sold out of everything. So then I went to Zara. They have some amazing deals going on at Zara. And, like, you cannot tone out this buzzard who's talking about whatever happened in her life the night before. I'm like, it's like, it doesn't matter how many people are in there. It doesn't matter how loud it gets or how. What headphones you put on. It's like that voice is of that certain timbre that it just sort of, like, pierces through any other noise that's happening. It's like, yeah. And I'm just like. I just, like, over it at this point. Like, I don't want to hear from him anymore.
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I'm like, coffee reader is less than you. Shut up.
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Yeah.
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Okay. So Karen kind of stands up for Angel. Well, at least to us. To everybody else, she doesn't. She just stays quiet because they're all popular girls, and she doesn't want to make them mad. But to us, she's like, yeah, they should. They should leave my girlfriend alone. But she doesn't stand up for in the moment. And Ashley's like, well, but then there's been some other talk that you move purposely into this area to be in the group. And Angel's like, oh, well, that's not true at all. And she said, oh, really? I would move here to be with Ashley and Giselle and Wendy. Are you kidding me? I would do that on purpose to myself. Well, I mean, yes, because she means the TV show, but.
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Right. I just. I do always love, like, when established reality stars act like they got onto their shows because there were selected from an elite group of actresses. Like, they, like. Like, they were partaking in the Hollywood Reporter Actress on Actress roundtable. And then they were chosen to be in this elite. It's like, no, you applied also, you auditioned also, you wanted to be on this show, and you've been thirsty and doing thirsty things for nearly 10 years to stay on the show. And then someone says, hey, here's an opportunity for me. I'm. If. If I move to Potomac, I could actually be on this show. I just don't think that's, like, a career. I just don't think that's, like, a thing you can prosecute someone on. I agree with you.
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I mean, they're acting like they were there, like, being shot for the nature channel. You know, it's like a nature documentary until they needed cast members and everyone else had to audition. Like. No, you auditioned too. And actually, you guys are thirstier because you guys didn't even audition for the Real Housewives of Potomac. You auditioned for like, Ladies with Manners or whatever the fuck. Yeah. Was called back in the day. So this was like some. Some. Some job out of like the backstage newspaper, you know, in the back that you all went to. You like, went to an open call. At least she got an audition for like a nationally televised, very popular show. Why am I sticking up for Angel? You know why I'm not. This is such an. Because, yeah, this is such an. That's why.
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This is the one time, like, because also you're acting like, oh, my God, she moved in here to be the. On the TV show. Wendy lives an hour away from all of you guys. You guys always complain that she lives, you know, hour. Like maybe an hour and a half away. You know, we have other shows. Meredith Marks doesn't even live in Salt Lake City. She rents and she's. She rents when she's on the show. And then all of a sudden she's back in New York City. Right? Isn't that what people say? You know, you have real house, House of Beverly Hills, where you had once. You know, you have seasons where Erica's in Pasadena and someone else is in Malibu. Those are like. It's a 90 minute drive between the two of them. And like, the geographical aspect is pretty. Ten years you have Heather debrow literally living in the neighborhood of one TV show but appearing in another TV show. She's living in Beverly Hills and now, but she's doing shooting for Orange. It all doesn't make any sense. And I agree with you. I think I'm only feisty about this because it's Ashley who's bringing this up. Ashley, Queen of fakeness.
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Ashley just fake broke up with Beavis so she could go on Love Hotel and pretend she was single, which she wasn't. And everybody knows it. I mean, Ashley is the biggest faker ever. So whatever. Ashley.
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Yeah, be quiet.
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Leave angel alone. Angel is the best thing to happen to. Okay?
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Angel is the. Is a top pure house vibe. She's an icon.
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You know where angel is entertaining? Angel is very entertaining off the show where she's just doing interviews and she's just like, I'm pissed and everybody's gonna know it. And here's exactly how I feel about these girls. And I'm gonna let them have it at the reunion. I'm like, okay, yeah, we'll see. Because you know, she's not going to like, let me, Adam, let me, Adam. And she gets there. Well, my. I said that I didn't appreciate that.
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You know, she's gonna do.
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And she's gonna do statements. Have you seen it? Like, she's reading her statements. She's like, here's what I have to say about Ashley. I am very upset that what has transpired in the 12th hour of the book. Why are you reading. Why are you reading a statement on a podcast?
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Well, I'm telling you right now, what's going to happen is the angel's gonna sit up there and she's gonna be very quiet. The reunion. And she's gonna say, I don't want to, I don't want to. I'm not gonna engage with someone who's like this. And I don't. This is not the space where I feel comfortable sharing who I am. And I'm, I have lots of walls and this is not a place where I feel safe bringing down my wall. So I'm not going to speak on it. She's gonna do all that stuff and then she'll be like, see, I really showed them. And she thinks that like, her withering silence actually affects people, but it doesn't. It just makes her look like she's being silent. But that being said, I really have come to enjoy her eorness. Like, it's so funny to me, like, like how she is able to turn any situation into an e situation and like that normally makes really bad tv, but I'm just amused by how predictable it is and how reliable it is and, and just how, how, how much of like a failure it is. Like, it's, it's, it cracks me up. Like, even in this episode, in like a few minutes, we're gonna see her. She can't even have fun doing like stupid field, field game, field day races and stuff because she's, you know, she's like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna smile while I do my three legged race. It's like, come on, angel, this is your protest.
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Yeah. So she's like, well, I didn't, I didn't come here just to hang out with you. And I moved here to be with Ashley and Giselle and Wendy. Yeah, I said that part. She's like, there was no eviction and it's not like that. And so they kind of give it up. And Ashley's like, I'm glad you guys are okay. Really. Because you guys are insinuating her husband has temper issues and all this other shit too today. Like you're adding that layer on.
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Yeah. Like.
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Someone'S husband is angry. Who. She sure got to deal with an angry husband. So you guys are adding that layer onto it too, which that's not really a shocker, especially from Giselle. Giselle's like the biggest, like go against the husbander on the show, which she'll excuse for anything. Cheating, lying, etc.
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Right. Well, they, they, it's so funny because they did try to set it up. Like, wow, he's really angry. And I think if he were like angry or if he were surly, I think production would have leaned into that if they could have. But like then we just see footage of him just like smiling, walking around the party, having a nice time, doing like squats with this kid on his back. Like, just happy, happy Bobby. Like, it's like he, this guy was not angry. He just was like, you know, he clearly had like just finished packing this house and he's stressed out and he's like, look, we'll get there when we get there and we'll see you there. And they're like, wow, how angry. I'm like, he's perfectly docile.
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Yeah. So now let's go over to the guys talking and Eddie is saying that they have their 15 year anniversary coming up. Oh, that's great. I hope you guys can print out a line on T shirts that was inconsequential to harp on.
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Like.
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I know. I hope you do.
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I know. And make your entire family wear it every single scene and then even quote it when your mom calls.
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It is a fitting shirt though, because they can use that outside the jailhouse. You know, all the fans can wear it. Bring Eddie out. Bring Eddie out.
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Yeah. I really, I really need to know who are the people that bought that shirt? Because they were, they thought that it was amusing. Like, who are those people? Because I need to ask questions.
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Something I'm gonna wear that's going to be instantly recognizable wherever I go. Yeah. So they're talking about how they've been married 15 years. Wendy wants a new ring, which of course she does. You know, she doesn't want a new ring camera that could catch a burglar that could be coming up in that house. She wants an actual ring on her finger. So. And Greg's like, yeah, well, you know, I can tell you're happy, Eddie, by your smiling. Really, Greg? Is that how you can tell?
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Yeah, Greg, he's very observant. That Greg, he never looked more terrified. Because when Eddie is like, yeah, she wants a new ring ring. And Greg's like, oh. In his mind, he's like, wait, so, like, after I give that first ring, there's still more rings. I have to get down the line. Like, it doesn't end. Like, I still have to get more rings. Does a picture frame fit on her finger? Can we do that?
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Yeah. The only ring Greg really wants is inside of Kierna. So Charisse is approaching. So Sharice is approaching Stacy and Timo. And Charisse gets introduced. Okay, so the ghoul Sharice.
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What was this?
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Nice to meet you.
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Comes over and this must be the beautiful daughter. She was like a. Like a villain in a fairy tale. And this is a beautiful daughter. Stay away from her.
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I don't remember her name, but we call her stem cells for sure. Stacy's like, so here comes Cherise, hovering over on a hoverboard, slithering over in lingerie. This is a family event. Why are you talking to me? Be gone.
B
So it was kind of so weird.
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Showed up to a family potluck wearing a see through bustier top.
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I know. That was like. Like she's never done that before, too. It was just so strange. Like, did not make any sense. Like, like, oh, God. God bless Tata. I don't know. I'm always amused when Shasha shows up, just because I feel like the concept of her is funny. I've always said she sort of looks like a melted candle and she just shows up like, hello, you know, or like someone just like. Like a cake just fell on her head. She just has that look, like, sort of deflated, but she just is always there in a way that is. I don't know, it just amuses me because she's always up to sort of no good. But, like, I don't know. I can't describe it. Like, my heart gets warm whenever Charisse shows up, even though she sucks so much.
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Therese is just that girl who got fired from Chili's, but keeps showing up at all the Chili's parties and just tries to start mess. Like, surely I'll be back at Chili soon, you know? Yeah, you're not going to be back. Chili's.
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She gets into it every season. She somehow gets it. She, she, she, she had her moment this season already. Yeah, some seasons are more than others. But, like, she's just so clunky. She's so clunky with how she gets involved, too. I just find that to be so funny. I have a real soft Spot for people who are really bad at being a housewife sometimes. Like, you know, when they're, like, when they're mediocre bad. Like a Gina and Emily, especially like a Gina, I'm like, get out of here. But when you're so bad that, like, you can't help but laugh. Like, I actually enjoy that. Yeah.
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And Charisse definitely does that. So she's like, hi. The lead. Have you tried the awesome Blossom, Matt? Mad, mad. Tempt. Anybody? And so she. She tells Arabella, who's Arabella, who's eating some cotton candy. She's like, are you happy now, babe? Did you got that? And she just looks at her like, what the hell? Who's this creepy lady?
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Stranger danger.
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So Stacy's like, I'm so glad we're finally meeting. I've been expressing to Timo quite often how much I appreciate you. You know, actually, I'm going to walk him out. I'm gonna be walking out. Okay, we're gonna walk Timo out now.
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Bye. Yeah, she basically introduces Timo to Wendy and Eddie, so that way she can say that she's introduced him. And then he's like, I have to go now. And so she walks him out. I'm like, are you gonna say goodbye to your daughter? He just walks out like, you know that your spawn is over there. You see Arabella look after him like, what? He just walks out like, you have a child here. You should at least say goodbye to your child. Timo, I will see you for over pizza later. Now is the time that parents leave.
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So Wendy sees, and she's like, oh, he's heading out. And she's like, yeah. So Eddie's like, we didn't get to chit chat. He does not want to chit chat with you guys. You guys tried to ruin his marriage last year. I don't know what. What's so confusing about Timo not wanting to, like, hang out with you guys? But, yeah, I don't really blame him.
B
He's definitely not into this whatsoever. So he leaves. He was there for 32 minutes, it says. So Wendy goes. Immediately goes to Giselle. I was like, so Timo just left? She's. Why? Yes. Well, I think he's nervous around the group. No, no, no. Why are we catering to this? Well, at least you don't get to this party.
A
Exactly. You don't get to use that when you've got a potluck going on.
B
Okay, I know.
A
Why aren't you catering this?
B
She's like, why are we handling him with kid Gloves. Did you not remember any of the seasons with you and Michael and, like, how he was ducking and dodging all the charges against him? I think there were a lot of kid gloves that season with you.
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Yeah, no kidding. Wish Michael was wearing some kid gloves when he was assaulting cameramen, Ashley. Which you stood up for him for and stuck up for him for non stop. So now they're all pissed off that he's gone. They're all offended, I should say. And so Giselle's like, well, at first I thought he was part of the rec center staff because I did not know who this gentleman was. And now he's gone. So I guess he doesn't know how to have fun. Is this fun? That's the thing.
B
It's like, was this worth his time? Is it really worth his time?
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It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Grappens commercial.
B
Now it's time for games. So they all meet up on like the field. And by the field, I mean the inside area with the Astroturf. And they're gonna do things like three legged. Three legged races and stuff. And so they're this sort of hap. There they run. Giselle falls over. Giselle and Sharice follow. Well, Sharice falls over, causing Giselle to fall over, which is funny. It's also funny to think that Sharice is doing a three legged race again in her translucent bustier. And Giselle's like, charisse, I'm on the ground because of you, mem. You couldn't let get your left foot and your right foot together.
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Ra.
B
Well, I mean, if that's a metaphor. That's not a metaphor. I don't know what is Therese stumbling at the three man race because she couldn't get her feet together.
A
Yeah. And, you know, three legged race.
B
I said three man race. Three legged. It's a three hoverboard race, three wheel race.
A
So they also all refused to do the giddy up properly. But I didn't.
B
Yeah, that really annoyed me. It just ran holding the inflatable, like pony stick instead of kitty, like there. And then when Stacy did, they were like shocked. They're like, what's Stacy doing? Because she actually like did the bouncing and did something with her hand to make it look like she was on a horse. And they're like, what is happening? This is crazy, this pantomime she's doing.
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Yeah, they were mad. They were mad because it was taking her, you know, she was going more slowly. But hello, she's doing the Giddy up. You guys were cheating. Do you understand? Okay, so then we see that Jackson, Sharice's son, comes, and in case anyone's forgotten, he's a model. And you can tell because of his model hat because it's like a cowboy thing. And so everybody's wearing cowboy hats, but he's wearing, like, the model version, which is kind of flat on top and really wide, brimmed. It's stupid. It's a stupid hat.
B
It's a stupid hat. He's fine. I'm just gonna. Right now. He is fine.
A
I have to take down his hat because that's the last.
B
I was like. I was like. I thought that actually looked really good, Honestly. I mean, we've known that. Like, we've seen him grow up sort of, and we knew he got into modeling, but this is the first time I was like, wow. I've got to say, Potomac is like, knock it out of the park. This season with the men between this guy, Bobby K's brother. I mean, you know, there's c. You know, there's. There's balances, you know, because then you have, like, Greg and, you know. But, like, I think there was, like, one other guy where I was like, wow, very impressive. Is it Teemo? Just kidding. But, like, toic doing great work. But, yeah, I was like, whoa, Jackson. Like, whoa. So Sharice is like, hey, Ashley, look who's here. It's my son, Jackson. You're like, why is she saying. Why is she doing that? And then we have this flashback. It's Ashley, Giselle, and Sharice are sitting there at a restaurant, and Giselle is like, how are the kids? And Ashley just starts to giggle. And Sharice is like, what's going on? What are you laughing at? What did I say? Upon. Was that a pun? Is that a pun?
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Well, remember the night after the crab boil? Yes, Ashley. Who could forget the night after the crab boil? What a night filled with glitterati. And we see the flashback to 2023, and Ashley and Jackson are walking up to the door, and she's like, okay, are you dropping me off? Well, thank you. And he says, you're welcome. And then he leaves. And I guess the cameras leave. And then she tells a story to Shareese that she, Jackson, drove her home because she was drunk. And she's like, oh, a little tips. Here we go. Spit it out. Spit it out, Ashley. She's like, okay, well, we had a little smooch and just.
B
I was like, whoa.
A
I might be sweating. God. She goes, yeah, I'm perspiring. Can you all turn the AC on? So we go into the. Jackson came in to use the bathroom. And then as he was holding. He was holding his hand out with my key, and I went to take my key, and then he grabbed my hand and then he pulled me to him. Yeah. I saw a different side of him that night.
B
This is wild. I mean, it's not crazy. Like, in. In the human world, she. In the human sense. I mean, they're 10 years apart. It's not a crazy age gap. That's your friend's son. That's crazy. And like, I. I cannot believe it. And Sharice is, like, so happy. I think she's like, oh, great. I have relevance. I have a fight I can have with athlete. I can be on the throw again. She's like, totally fine. She's like, well, yeah, well, my son is hot. Those are my deans. Enjoy.
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Enjoy having sex with me, my faith. Enjoy that. Yeah, it's super weird, you know, and it's especially creepy for Ashley because Ashley is the one who's like, oh, my God. Well, Stacy was trying to talk to Chris, who was married to Monique one time. It's like, oh, really? But you don't draw the line at somebody's son. Are you kidding? Come on. And she did the son. Like, let's be honest. Because she's like, well, you know, then what if it was a little bit more than that? Like, if it didn't end at the kiss, you'd be okay with it. So you. Her sign is what you're saying?
B
Yeah.
A
And Theresa. Well, I gotta digest this one. I gotta digest this one.
B
No, like, they. They definitely had sex, and she's just saying smooch just to test the waters a little bit. But I like. No, I'm sorry. Listen, that whole. That whole setup. I don't know. Yeah. Like, it's like, you don't say. I saw a different side of someone off of just a kiss.
A
Yeah, you say it off a cornhole. Now. She did it. You know, Look, I'm not like the moral outrage police about it because he's hot and he's a model and he's of age. And so, like, if a model wants to, you're gonna. The model, like, come on. Yeah, but it's just that Ashley's such a hypocrite and it is. I'm sorry. It is. It is creepy. I don't know that. I don't know if I could. One of my friends.
B
Kids. That's what I can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't imagine that.
A
So then also people that young really are. So how old do you think he is?
B
He's 27. He's 27?
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. He's not that young. That's what I'm saying. Like, in a different context, it's like, there's. It's not crazy, but in the context of, like, you know, Cherise. I mean, admittedly, Sharice is older than Ashley. There's always been that age gap thing. But it's weird. I mean, I think what's so funny with Ashley is that she is a real housewife. She's been a real housewife since she was. She's 37. She must have been when she was 27, 28. And the funny thing is that she is younger as a real housewife. She's a real housewife, but she's younger than a lot of the people who were on the quote unquote, youth shows on Bravo, like, Vanderpump Rules, Summer House. She's younger than Kyle. She's younger than Sheena. She's like, she. So that's why when she and Luke were together, it was, like, weird, because it was like a real housewife with someone from Summer House. But it was totally like, it. It actually makes total sense. But I think that, like, when. When there are real housewives involved, just the name Real Housewife, we just assume there's, like, a certain sort of, like, age gap or, like, maturity. Not maturity, but, like, we just think that they're older than they are sometimes. And so when it's like, oh, my God, she had sex with someone who's 27, it's like, yeah, but she's. She's 37. Like. Like, Ashley could be on the Vanderbump Rules reboot. She's two years older than Marcus. Like, that's. That's crazy.
A
It's just that she's a fucking hypocrite, I think. So then she's like, well, we just needed comfort in each other, in the moment. Oh, was the crab boil hard on you?
B
I know. What was. What was happening that was so difficult two years ago?
A
And Giselle just goes, oh, okay, then. Okay. It's not up to you to forgive this. I like that. Giselle's like, okay, well, Ashley, that's fine. Then it's like, no, that's not up to you. And so Ashley's like, well, I didn't know I was gonna ever tell you this, but I guess I have to. So she's like, yeah, he's hot. And then we see them Talking. And I was cracking up because she's like, so, what have you been up to? And he's like, modeling. You know, like, in places. Like, I go to places and then like, I'm modeling them. It's like, wow.
B
Yep. He's got the exact sort of personality you'd expect profession from a flat.
A
From a flat hatted model. So Giselle's like, it's game time. Okay, so now we're gonna do some tug of war crap. They choose teams, which, of course, Stacy is last. I mean, Stacy was last even in Angel. Even with angel there.
B
Yeah, yeah. They really don't like Stacy. So they do tug of war. It's like they pull back and forth. Someone wins. And Stacy's like, just like. They're acting like they're gonna get a new wig or something. Like, what are we really fighting for? What's the prize? And then. And then she is saying, oh, well, look like she was scared of my girls. And then she didn't want me to hold her. And I was like, they've ruined it for me. Her outfit is so cute. I don't know what she talked about. Is she talking about Stacy? I don't know. It was just fun and games.
A
So then angel is upset about them confronting her, and she's like, you know, I really feel some type of way about somebody. You know, I mean, you know what? I'm going through something. Like, it's unexpected, and I don't. I don't need to move out anywhere for anybody. I don't get it. And she's also like, Angela, I know. I know you have a lot to talk about. Da. But it's game time. And she's like, so she's gonna ask me if I'm evicted, and I'm supposed to hop down the turf and be buddy buddy with you and yeehaw. Well, I don't know how this Colorado trip is gonna go. Oh, God. Well, don't make us all to go to Colorado just for you to hate us all.
B
Well, also like you. Yes. Giselle. Giselle is definitely like a. But like, yeah, you do. You do act, like, happy and nice because your kids are there, and it's like a kid event. And so you just put on, like, a warm. Like a smile and you participate in these stupid games. So that way your kids have fun and it's not strange and awkward for them.
A
Yeah. So they giddy up. This is where they fail the giddy up thing. And then they're getting food after. And Stacy is next to Cameron, who's Wendy's daughter. And she's like, oh, if you're gonna try the potato salad, you need a special plate. Here's one. And it's an American flag. And Cameron goes, a Donald Trump plate. And she's like, well, it's. It's the American flag.
B
And she's like, it's the same thing. Stacey's like, it just cuts away because.
A
You know, Wendy's like, oh, not in this house. Not in this house.
B
So, Giselle, that's.
A
So what's happened to the America. Like, you can't even have the American flag anymore without people being like, oh, really? Oh, really?
B
I know, I know. You can't even. You can't even have a host of a Potomac reunion anymore without it such turning against you, huh? So then Giselle is like. She's like, so Kierna. And what's your face, Greg? How's it going? You guys gonna move in?
A
Nah.
B
And she's like, not yet. She goes, well, so this makes it official. Like, it's official. He's like, yeah, because Greg is really. He's laying it on thick. The new Greg Persona. He's, like, smiling and chuckling. He's like, I'm just having so much fun here on camera.
A
It's me. Fine, Greg. Everybody look at me. I'm smiling like, eddie, does that mean I'm happy? It does.
B
It does.
A
So Giselle's like, well, okay, woman power 101. In the words of old aunties, girl, you done lost your power. That man is never gonna give you a ring, because he know. He doesn't. He knows he doesn't have to. And he's like, whoa, how do I get caught up in this mix? And Stacey. So then we go back to Stacy, you, Giselle, be quiet about the rings. By the way. There's more to life than getting a ring from some man. I'm so sick of hearing about the ring.
B
Yeah. So Stacy, meanwhile, is. She's been really pushing her potato salad. I guess people were giving her for it earlier. Last episode, she was getting from. From it for it. So now she's, like, trying to pressure Eddie into eating it. And Eddie clearly does not want to eat it. So he tries. He's like, oh, yeah, it's good. It's good. She's like, well, have some more of it. Have some more. And even Wendy's doing it. Like, have some more, Eddie. Like, they're both enjoying making him squirm, and he doesn't like the potato salad, clearly. So now we see Jackson and Ashley, they. They catch up again and Ash is like, so, have you been traveling? And he's like, a little bit modeling. New York, Miami. Doing that a little bit. How about you? Well, I've been making out with an old guy down in Mexico. His name is Ralph. And he grunts when we make out.
A
So. Yeah, like, that's pretty cool. That's.
B
That's what I've been up to.
A
Oh, hi. Hi, Sharice. We're just catching up. Oh, really? Yeah. You know, and I did share with your mom. They two were very sweet that night and drove me home. And then we had a little smooch up the bucket night. And she and Wendy's like, I'm sorry, what happened? Wait, what happens? What?
B
Yeah, just like a little smooch.
A
Like a little good night smooch.
B
That's all it was. When he's like, wait, wait, hold on, wait. What? What? Theresa's like, is that through? Jackson, Is that through? He just shrugs.
A
But that's your friend's son. Wendy's. I like when Wendy's voice gets cracky. She's like, wait, but that's your friend's son. It's like, it was just a little kiss. See, this is the thing with Ashley. No one needed to even know about this. So it's not only that she fucked her friend, it's that she like, like her for her friend's son. Is that she her friend's son and is now going to like, make it a whole thing on national tv. It's just very Ashley. Yeah.
B
So I like that Wendy is like, she's. She's the only one who actually seems to be, like, shocked. Shocked, like, deservedly, or like, like she's having what I feel like is the appropriate reaction, which is like, wait, what the. Like, you made out with your friend's son. Is anyone else, like, gonna be halted by this? And Ashley's like, yeah, it was just.
A
Like a little kiss.
B
That's okay. It's just a little kiss. It's like, no. And Wendy's like, none of you guys better kiss any of my kids. Okay, just say that right now.
A
I would take that to the grave. She was like, well, I don't know. If my friend looked like Ashley, I'd get it, boy. I mean, she's. I'm not bad at it. I don't know. She's cute. So then Karen is like, wow, nobody's safe around Ashley. Hide your coochie. Hide your young sons. Hide your old sons. Hide your daddies.
B
I was like, you better hide Your brother. You better watch out.
A
You better hide your brother from the entire world.
B
Honestly.
A
I know. Let's. We'll all jump on that if we had the chance.
B
Yeah, let's.
A
I think that that was really funny. It's like Ashley just cast a really wide net, just non traditional casting. They can be 18. They can be 17. Okay.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think she likes to dabble in, like, the young, hot guys, but then she settles in with, like, the old trolls. That's like her ultimately.
A
Yeah. She likes to date young guys, and then she likes to marry the money bags.
B
You know, she's like, if you. She's like. Like, the Mary Hill is, like, very obvious with her. The Hawkeye. And then, like, the Mary is. If you look like you could be a CGI sidekick in some sort of fantasy quest, she will marry you, and.
A
She'Ll also probably kill you. So then Wendy's like, well, thanks for showing. Fun way to end family day. Okay. And somebody please take Stacy's potato salad, please.
B
So now we go to Tia and her family at the house, and it's a family meeting. And Tia's like, okay, everyone, we have to follow up on the chore chart that we talked about. Does everyone really talk about this? So what are some of the things that you should be. Your chores. I'll start with. Oh, Rob. Rob, would you like to help out here? My passive husband, Rob.
A
And he's like, well, why don't we just open this up for discussion? Who would like to volunteer something? Lexi, you want to volunteer? No.
B
Who?
A
Parents. Like that. You want to volunteer to do a chore? It's not what chores are. Chores are painful. Okay. Come out with a list. Make it hurt and hand it out, and that's it. And if your kid is falling asleep on the table, might I suggest a fly swatter or one of the. The tennis racket fly swatters. It'll shock him.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. And I hope that this family paid attention while they're watching this at home to the end scene to see how it's really done.
B
Yeah, exactly. We truly. Wait, didn't we just see something last week where we were like. Yes. We're like, we're so proud of a parent. What happened? I don't remember. Did anything happen? Did we watch TV last week?
A
Yeah, I know.
B
Oh, no, it was a Simone. It was Simone yelling at her kids.
A
Oh. And then Simone totally blew that because guess what she followed that scene up with. She went and bought her kid Alexis and then took both of her sons and their girlfriends To Jamaica.
B
Really?
A
Yes. So now I have to sit there and watch Simone act like she's being all big and strong with her kids when she totally bought him a.
B
A.
A
A Tesla. A Tesla in these times.
B
Oh, no. Simone, stay strong.
A
Boo. We resend all of our amazing parent yelling at energy that we gave you last week. Reset.
B
So Tia is telling us, like, the producer says that you have chores growing up. And he's like, well, we had people for that, but kids are disrespectful. They will eat something and then just throw the rapper on the floor. Like, who is the maid? Is it me? It's definitely not me. Like, wait, your kids are just throwing rappers on the floor?
A
What the hell? I was so mad at her. I was so mad for her. And the dad was over there like.
B
Well, let's have a talk about what.
A
We'D like to do in the house. Pick up your wrappers or you're moving out. How about that? To start. Yeah.
B
That's crazy. So then. So then she goes, okay, I've got a question. Okay. First out of business. Who keeps on kissing the mirrors? I'm like, what. What is happening in this household? And then she, like, looked at. Really?
A
Yeah. When I was a kid, because I was like. I was really big into manifesting. You know, I read those books when I was very young, which, I mean, is why I turned out how I did. Totally worked, but. And I thought I was, like, really big into, like, be the who you want to pretend. Like, fake it till you make it kind of thing. So I'd be like, God, you're so attractive. Then I would kiss myself.
B
Wow.
A
Like 12. My mom caught me kissing myself in the mirror once and said, what the fuck are you doing? And I was like, I'm just trying to tell myself I'm attractive. She's like, that's not how to do it. Get out of the bathroom slowly. Back out of the bathroom.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Embarrassing. But, I mean, I was cute. I was into. Was the best date I ever had at 12.
B
Hilarious. Well, it's happening again. The second. The second coming of Ronnie Caram is happening in this household, because the boy who did it, it's the boy Nathaniel. And so she's like, nathaniel, why are you the first one to say something? And so he's like, I literally did that in the past. So, like, he's saying, like, he. It's like, it's over. Like, he doesn't do it anymore. And she's like, but somebody's still doing it. He's Like. Like, what if it's you? She's like, why would it be me?
A
Because you're always wearing lipstick. She's like, okay, so wait, it's. It's kissing the mirror with lipstick on that makes it weird.
B
I'm not. I'm not sure. I think that.
A
Hold on.
B
I do love that Nathaniel is. Yeah, but to say, I love that Nathaniel. He's so exasperated in every scene that he shows up and he's like, but why? He's, like, always whining. He's just, like, put upon by his older sisters.
A
He's the one who wanted to be adopted. Like, run away and be adopted. And he's always just exhausted. He's always, like.
B
He's so dramatic there. I don't want it. Like, I was like, it's such a great. It's a refreshing. A refreshing thing. Because normally, like, children of the Real Housewives are, like, rolling their eyes or catatonic. And to have, like, this kid being such a drama queen is, like, so wonderful. Like, I love this for him.
A
Yeah. And he's like, but what about all the things I did today already? Mother says, okay, well, what did you do today? And he's like, well, I put the Doritos away. So that's something. It's like, you ate your Doritos and then you walked away and you left them on the table. So Amir is coming over here, and I was thinking about taking her to the old house that was leaving Doritos on the table, putting them away.
B
I put him into my stomach. I like that. His, like, big piece of evidence. His, like, the smoking gun of how responsible he is is that I put the Doritos away today. Which, to be fair, is more than some of the husbands do on these shows, but. And then I love that he didn't even put the Doritos away. He's like. He took like. If you're gonna lie, just say, well, Mother, I did all the dishes and mopped the floor. And, like, no, that's a lie. But don't lie over something low stakes that, like, you really could have done so easily.
A
But the absolute perfection of this kid being like. Like, this was his day. Ate some Doritos, threw the bag down, and then went and made out with herself in a mirror. I mean.
B
What a life. Yeah, that's probably what the lipstick was. It's probably just, like, orange Dorito. Yeah, exactly.
A
I found orange. There was orange powder on the Mia. So she's like. So they're talking about how they're gonna go See this old house? Going to see the old house or something. And so she explains that Amira is her half sister, and she also has a half brother, and she didn't find out about them till her early teens. And at the time, her mom didn't sign up to be a sister wife, so she was like, team Mom. You know, this is bullshit. And it wasn't until her dad passed away that they had to talk to the kids to plan the funeral and all of that stuff. And so she finally got to know her personality. And so she's like, well, and she's got some shade in her as well, so we must be related.
B
So then we come back to the table, and Tia's like, ah, you falling asleep over there? And Ava's like, probably the kids are just falling asleep at the stable. Like, what time is it? It looks like. Looks like it was, like, three in the afternoon. So Tia's like, okay, well, I think we should do a quick assessment of anything you see that could be sorted now. Like, for instance, whose plate is that over there? And so Amaris is like, it's mine, because we were having a family meeting thing. So I brought a plate in, and.
A
He'S like, okay, family meeting is over now. Okay? And congratulations. You made it through a whole family meeting and made nobody do anything. What is going on at this house? Still no chores. They're like, we don't want our kids to look spoiled on tv, so let's have a meeting about doing chores. And then it just fails miserably. So.
B
I know. So now we go over to Stacy and Timo, who are working out. Or more like Teemo's like, walking on a treadmill, and Stacy's sort of doing things. This is where Stacy is. Her most awkward and uncomfortable is when she flirts in a gym. And unfortunately, we've seen more of this than we'd like to admit.
A
Yes. So let's see. So Timo's like, are you ready? Ready for workout? And she's like, oh, well, Bella's at the neighbors so we could have some time to ourselves. He's like, yeah, Stack climber. We do stack climber.
B
Now is the time that we go.
A
On stairs to nowhere. Oh, sure.
B
I guess we could do that, too. He's like, so want to stop? Let's get on these machines. Well, that's not what I thought you were gonna say.
A
I know.
B
I know you want sexy time, but it's staircase time. Oh, okay. Well, I'm a yogi at heart, and I'm not really Trying to be like, we know, like, you know, working out. Working out, you know, and then we see clips of last year when she was working out with TJ and being all sexual about it. Yeah.
A
And she says, well, we all know that couples who sweat together stay together. And clearly, we're trying to stay together. I hope and pray, dear Lord, if you have to work out together to stay with anybody, I'm real. There's really no hope for me that. Yeah, I'm doing that for anybody.
B
That's really hard. That's really a difficult thing to put on your partner. So Stacy's working out, and then she's like. Like. Like doing squats on a yoga ball and doing all these things, and she's trying to be all sexual. She's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, this is hot. He's like, yes, this is very hot. Good exercise, Good calisthenics.
A
So now she's saying that now that he's back home, they're picking up where they left off, and it feels so right, and blah, blah, blah. It's just like a cute little teemo scene. Not much really happens. They talk about, oh, isn't it great? You're back in the house. He's like, oh, it's so good. And we're doing it for Arabella.
B
Arabella. What we do find out is that Timo does not like big butts. And he cannot lie because she's like, I'm just trying to get my butt bigger. He's like, why would you do that? She said, because people say my butt's too small. The butt is. The butt is already too large. Make it smaller. I'm like, whoa, Timo. He's not like a big butt. Turns out.
A
Yeah. So they talk about Arabella, and then we go to Angel's house, and there's moving boxes still everywhere. And she's like, okay, we're moving things to storage before we go to Colorado, but we'll find the right house. But I'm stressed, and we're gonna have this great trip. Our friends are gonna get to come experience Wanderland.
B
Even after Potomac and ponies. I'm going into the trip with an open mind because they're gonna get to know me, and I'm giving the ladies a taste of the wonderland experience. So think luxurious, guided, mindful hiking experiences. Could you imagine an unmindful hiking experience? You just, like, walk off a cliff. Whoops. Wasn't being mindful.
A
Half of our party drowned in a ravine. I'm sorry. This wasn't a mindful experience. So we're not on the hook for that.
B
Why do I think that mindful hiking and fly fishing are not gonna really, like, win over this group? I just don't think nobody wants to do that.
A
Yeah, but it's such an angel thing too. Like, hey guys, you want to come? I'm gonna host a trip and we're gonna do outdoor hiking activities. You do not know these people, ma'. Am. Hello there. This is a two part recap. Okay, this the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.
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