#3129 Married To Medicine S12E04: Toya Story

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Watch What Crappens – Episode #3129
Married To Medicine S12E04: “Toya Story”
Date: December 23, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie recap and hilariously dissect “Toya Story,” the wild fourth episode of Married to Medicine Season 12. The focus is squarely on Toya, whose unfiltered antics at home and at her “serenity” pool party spiral into marital tension with Eugene and a meltdown among the women. The recap is packed with the hosts’ signature Bravo-loving snark: they offer play-by-play commentary, dig into the cast’s dynamics, and call out Toya’s particular brand of chaos—with plenty of asides, judgments, and quotable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Married to Medicine Stands the Test of Time

• Ronnie points out the refreshing lack of self-editing from the cast:

  “It’s season 12 and I’m going to be the worst version of myself that you’ve ever seen. So sit tight.” (03:17)

• The cast, especially Toya, continue to bring raw reality, refusing to water themselves down for viewers.

2. Simone and Cecil’s Marital Stresses

• The fallout from Brandy’s birthday dinner continues, with Simone openly questioning her marriage to Cecil.
• Quotes:
  • Simone: “Girl, you have no idea. Do I look happy? Do I look happy?” (04:49)
  • Ben: “After all Simone’s hemming and hawing... she ended up buying that little brat a Tesla ...so I don’t know what happened between this scene and that, but damn, that’s crazy.” (05:41)

3. Motherhood, Marriage, and the “Monster” Kids

• Heavenly and Simone bond over struggles with their sons.

  Heavenly: “We created the monster. And you can’t be mad at the monster.”
  Ronnie (mocking): “You literally can be. Retrain the monster.” (08:25)

4. Work-Life Struggles for Toya and Eugene

• Toya complains about Eugene’s long work hours, despite their luxury lifestyle.
• Ronnie and Ben roast Toya for not seeing the connection between lavish spending and her husband’s workload:

  “Have you seen the rest of your episode, Toya? Why does Eugene have to work so hard... with a pool party out back with Louis Vuitton towels that cost $545 each.” (13:23)

• They note the cycle of resentment in Toya and Eugene’s marriage.

5. Justifying Judginess

• Toya laments being judged, yet the hosts note she’s just as judgmental.
• Ben:

  “Also, Toya, you’re a judgy bitch. When I say bitch, I mean the nice bitch… Like, yes, batch.” (25:31)

• Group chats become a point of contention, with Toya stirring drama about a “fake Balenciaga purse.”

6. Toya’s ‘Serenity’ Pool Party

• Toya throws an ostentatious party to “transport” her friends to the south of France, but chaos reigns.
• The party features monogrammed napkins, Louis Vuitton towels, frozen margaritas, and almost-nude servers.
• Ben:

  “No, this is not the south of France at all. This is not the south of France. Like the south of a French dressing bottle maybe.” (30:30)

7. Cringe Marital Meltdown at the Party

• Toya and Eugene’s tension boils over during the party games. Toya tries to force the men to play, calls Eugene out, and the fight escalates in front of guests.
• “She’s yelling at him in front of the guests again. Now they’re just doing it inside.” (49:47)
• Heavenly tries to intervene but gets blamed by Toya for “embarrassing” her.

8. Toya vs. The Group

• Toya directs her rage at the group, accusing them of judging her marriage.
• “What I’m not gonna do is have you up here smiling my face… when you get my back as far as my marriage.” (56:05)
• The party dissolves, with most guests awkwardly excusing themselves.

9. Deflection and Accountability

• Even when Toya shows a glimmer of self-awareness (“I feel like I failed myself today”), she quickly blames Heavenly:

  “Because Heavenly is a snake… She’s gonna keep slivering until you chop her head off.” (62:25)

• The hosts and cast debate whether friends should call out each other’s public fights.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the show’s enduring chaos:
  “It is. I was cracking up. I was cracking up. And I was also... Toria. Shameful. Embarrassing and shameful. Toria.” – Ben & Ronnie (02:39)

• On Toya’s spending:
  “You guys are moving houses every single year. There’s extravagance on display all the time... Like, that doesn’t pay for itself.” – Ben (14:53)

• Group chat shade:
  “There was a fake Balenciaga purse that was left at my party... so in our group chat, I said, ‘Whose fake ass purse is this?’” – Toya (26:22);
  “Who hates judgment? Hates judgment. She hates people being Toya.” – Ronnie (26:39)

• Toya’s definition of serenity:
  “She’s like, yeah, I’m gonna take the girls and transport them to the south of France.” – Ben (30:30)

• On the party’s sudden spiral:
  “So it starts with Toya screaming at her husband in front of everybody and ends with Toya screaming at everybody.” – Ronnie (58:01)

• On personal accountability:
  “I feel like I failed myself today. I was like, oh wow, Toya is going to take some responsibility. And then she goes, ‘Because heavenly is a snake.’” – Ronnie (62:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------| | 03:17 | Married to Medicine cast’s enduring authenticity | | 04:49 | Simone’s marital doubts | | 08:25 | Parenting woes: “We created the monster…” | | 13:23 | Toya and Eugene’s work/life imbalance | | 25:31 | Judging Toya’s judginess | | 30:30 | Toya’s “serenity” party setup | | 44:40 | The party game marital meltdown | | 49:47 | Toya & Eugene fight escalates in front of guests | | 56:05 | Toya lashes out at the group | | 62:02 | Accountability derailed: blaming Heavenly |

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Tone & Style

Ben and Ronnie maintain their signature irreverent, playful tone throughout. They move seamlessly between gossip, genuine concern, and Bravo-obsessed pettiness, exaggerating the cast’s foibles but clearly reveling in the mess. Their rapport is quick, sarcastic, but ultimately affectionate toward the genre and its personalities.

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies both the messiness and longevity of Married to Medicine. Toya’s over-the-top drama and lack of self-awareness—coupled with the entire group’s skill at confrontation and deflection—make for a “doozy” of an episode that’s perfect fodder for Ben and Ronnie’s delightfully shady breakdown. This recap delivers Bravo fans everything they crave: sharp observations, biting humor, and a deep love for reality TV’s most unfiltered personalities.

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Memorable Moment:
Ben: “No, this is not the south of France at all. This is not the south of France. Like the south of a French dressing bottle, maybe.” (30:30)

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello Ben.

[A]

Hi Ronnie. How's it going? Good.

[B]

Welcome to Married to Medicine Day everybody. Today is also our final Amazon Live of the year. It'll be at 4pm Pacific time on Amazon Live. You can find that by looking at our link in bio on Instagram. That's the easiest way. And today we're going to do a little married medicine and then below deck tomorrow and then we're out of here for Christmas party.

[A]

Exciting.

[B]

Well, it's so exciting.

[A]

So exciting. This episode of Marriage Medicine.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

What a doozy. What a doozy. I was. I mean, Toya is going to Toya. That's what I gotta say. All these years in. Toya is still gonna Toya. It is. I was cracking up. I was cracking up. And I was also.

[B]

Toria. Shameful.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Embarrassing and shameful. Toria. But, you know, it was kind of also refreshing because a lot of times on these shows, I mean, this show is in its 12th year, people. Okay, 12th. And a lot of times on these shows, you watch them for so many years and people really get watered down. They listen to what the audience is saying and they take that and they try and change for the audience. And I mean, look at Kyle Richards. Kyle Richards actually used to be fun and. And somewhat honest. And now she's just like, I can't talk about it. And it's. And it just gets so annoying and watered down, basically, to watch these people after a decade sometimes. Not Toya, not any of this cast, I have to say, really, not any of them. They're like, you know what? I'll be worse than ever. It's season 12 and I'm going to be the worst version of myself that you've ever seen. So sit tight. It's like, yes.

[A]

Yeah, truly, Toya is a force unto herself and sometimes you just forget that. And it was great to see Toya being vintage Toya this episode. So if we start off, we're actually still at that hookup party for Brandy as her birthday dinner, where Contessa just had a full on, you know, I want. It's not a meltdown, but she definitely had a moment where she was feeling obviously very jealous about the fact that Brandy's man did something to contribute to the birthday, as opposed to Contessa's man, Scott, who did nothing. So we're. We're in the. In the wake of that. And Simone has just been making comments about sort of like wanting to get divorced from Cecil again. And everyone is. Is alarmed, especially including Quad, who, you know, Quad and Simone have been on, you know, shaky ground for a while, but Quad puts that to the side to express a certain amount of concern.

[B]

Yeah, Shaku here, who here has not thought of ending their marriage. And Quads like, don't say it. Don't say it. Simone, don't do it. And Simone's like, girl, you have no idea. Do I look happy? Do I look happy?

[A]

You don't sound happy. You don't Sound like a happy person. Heavenly. Next to him. So Simone's like, I have been so frustrated with my family and the way that Cecil has not had my back. This is a clear indication that my marriage is not in the right place.

[B]

And so Jackie is like, oh, this is back down memory lane for Simone and Cecil. And it's disturbing. We often joke about our husbands, but something's not right. The D word.

[A]

Divorce.

[B]

Yes, we know. We know the D word. Thank you, Jackie. For those who didn't listen to Real Housewives of Potomac recap. It turns out that after all of this, after all, Simone's hemming and hawing and standing up for herself, and I'm not taking this shit anymore, she ended up buying that little brat a Tesla and then took him and his brother and their girlfriends to Jamaica. So I don't know what happened between this scene and that, but damn, that's crazy. She's fit to be tied right here, you know? So Simone's like, well, I just want to live in a high rise downtown. Jackie's like, say it again and I'm going to pop you on your lips. I'm going to. I'm going to pop you on your L word. That's lips.

[A]

And she's. Simone's like, I'm in my Zen. So Brandy's like, okay, everyone, this is supposed to be a something for good spirits. We're supposed to be coming here with good spirits, so let's change it. So contest is like, yes, let's reset. We'll reset. I'm like, don't act like you're the one, Contessa acting like you're bringing in a new great energy. You're the one who created the negative energy at this party in the first place.

[B]

So started it, Contessa. But also Brandy saying, oh, guys, we. I feel like we lost the whole intention for this thing. Have you watched this show? The intention is wallowing in bad marriages.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, where have you been?

[A]

There's that, too. So Contessa's basically saying that Brandy, she's like, brandy is new to this group, and we can go hard in the paint, but I don't think paying for a couple, you know, thousand dollar dinner, like, paying, you know, a couple thousand dollars for dinner is a thing to do cartwheels and back handsprings about. But for some people, it is. And that's awesome. I'm like, yeah, it should be, because this isn't like a milestone birthday. It's just like. It seems like it's just some other like an off year, birthday. So, yeah, I'm still gonna support this guy doing this for Brandy. I think it's pretty cool. Compared to Scott.

[B]

Yeah, why not? Especially when Scott did nothing and you're trying to give him credit just for paying for it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So Heavenly's like, simone, get some love. Come on, have some love. Are you doing okay? She's like, I love you. It's tough. She's like. And Claude's like, she's gonna be all right. And Heavily's like, well, my shit's worse than yours, guaranteed. I fussed my boy out and he left. And I don't even know where the fuck he is. You're going to find him.

[B]

Okay, let's sit down, cuz we got these shoes, baby.

[A]

Let's sit down so I can cry to you. Okay? You want to hear what happened to me? So when my son got arrested, you don't understand my heart. And then I came off all wrong, obviously, because when I tried to curse my opinion to my boys, I'm, you know, I'm cursing their opinion out. And I don't know, I just feel really bad that they didn't understand what I was trying to say when I was like, get the out of my house. And they didn't really understand.

[B]

And Simone's like, that's how I do it too. She goes very loudly. She's like, yes, that's me. And Heavenly's like, and you know what? He never disrespected me. He just got his and he left. But here is the thing, Heavenly, we created the monster. And you can't be mad at the monster.

[A]

You literally can be.

[B]

Retrain the monster. Retrain the monster. Don't just be like, well, that's a monster. That's what they do. They scare.

[A]

Scare.

[B]

If they scare my kid when she goes to bed at night by hiding under the bed, put nails under the bed, do something to get the monster out from under the bed, You. You literally control Frankenstein.

[A]

You literally can be mad at the monster. If you're not going to be mad at the monster, it's just a pet, okay? Like, the monster is there for you to be mad at, right? So then. So then they sort of like hug or whatever, but they. They sort of like, understand each other in that moment. So now we go back to Simone at work. It's another day, and a patient's asking Simone about hot flashes. And she's like, well, one of the things that make hot flashes worse are caffeinated beverages and alcoholic beverages. And the lady's like, so what about wine? Wine is alcohol.

[B]

So then we go over to Contessa and Scott's money pit, the. The new office. And Contessa is like, okay, realistically, how much time do you think before we get finished? And he's like, well, we've got 40,000 and floors and walls and ceilings to do. Which isn't that a coincidence? That's how much her party cost.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And so she's like, pinky promise. Which is weird, but we just had a scene last week where they told you it was two months. So I don't know why you asking Scott every day how much time you have left is going to change everything. It's still two months.

[A]

Yeah. And then we go to Brandy at work, and she's just. She's, you know, gonna give some filler to someone. And now we have Toya and Eugene, and they're walking in a park.

[B]

No, this was. This was. This was important because there's a new kind of filler that's a very thin filler. So I thought that was. I was like, what is it? Talk about it. Please talk about it. What kind of filler is this? Is it better than big, chunky, like, Lisa Rinna filler? Like, what is it? I want to know what it is. How much does it cost? Where is it on the menu? What does it do to my uterus or whatever? My urology center.

[A]

Yeah. Something we'll have to look into for 20, 26, I suppose.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So now we go to Toya, and.

[B]

You just support in that moment.

[A]

Yeah. And they're walking in the park and Toyo's like, look at this kid. Like, look at this kid playing player. Did you ever. Did you want to have another. What is she. What is she. What is she saying? Here, look at this kid playing player. Did you want to have another quick so we can walk to. I don't know. They're just walking.

[B]

She's like, look at your children. They're asleep in bed with the black. The blackout shines down until 3 in the afternoon. What's up with that? You, Uji? And he's like, well, that's boys. That's why they grow a lot in the summer, because they sleep a lot. It's like, what? He goes, because that's when your body sleeps. And she's like, are you giving up excuse for staying in bed all day?

[A]

He's like, no, I'm serious. She's like, I don't want them sleeping the subway way either. But anyway, how many days Are you off here? Until he's like, well, I'm off for six days. Off? Off from the er. How many days are you actually going to, like, off from the recharge. Wellness. He goes, well, I don't have anything scheduled, but I do need a break because I just worked pretty much seven days in a row. And she goes, well, I know you were asking me about my walkthrough at Contessa's office. And he's like, yeah, well, what did you think? And she's like, well, when I told her that we were looking for space, she's like, I took the storage unit, so I just carved out a little bit more space for Eugene. And she's basically like, yeah, they gave us like a shitty little corner of their building that's not even done yet.

[B]

Yeah, she says the problem is they took up all the greatness in the building for herself. And then she's like, anything on the right with windows is mine. And then here you go over here, the storage closet right outside the bathroom room. So we gotta smell everything going on. Nah, I'm good. I'm good.

[A]

Who would have thought. Who would have thought that this would have already started to lead to problems? I didn't think it'd be this.

[B]

Yeah, we knew this was gonna happen. We knew it was gonna happen. But I'm surprised Contessa is ballsy enough to put Toria's husband right by the bathrooms in the closet. That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, that is wild. So toy is like, I just don't feel confident with some of the things she was saying. And Eugene's like, look, I understand the goal is to work less and to be home more. And I. I even like growing, recharge, wellness, because that gives me the opportunity to be home more and work less shifts. But, like, now I'm just like, I'm sorry that the compromise with me making more money right now is being out of town. She's like, yeah, why? Why do you need to work? Why do you need to work yourself until you're exhausted and drive five hours away to any job? Well, have you seen the rest of your episode, Toya? Why does Eugene have to work so hard that he has to drive? Like, then, like, he has to drive five hours just to make the money he can, like, to. To support this family and then cut to her with like a pool party out back with Louis Vuitton towels that cost $545 each. Because, yes, I looked them up.

[B]

Oh my gosh. Not to mention, why would he want to. Because you're hellish. If this episode is like anything like your normal life, he is escaping you. Do you understand? Because for a lot of this I'm like, well, why there's places that aren't five hours away to work. I don't understand why he would have to go do this five hour thing either. I didn't really get it either. But after this episode, I sure as do. I mean, damn.

[A]

Yeah, he's like, look, I'm working less shifts that just happened to be out of town. And when I was working in town, it was the same amount of shifts, if not more so whether I sleep in my own bed or the Holiday Inn Express. And she's, which, you know, she hated that he said Holiday Inn Express. You know, because like here they are like the Louis Vuitton blankets. But he's like, or towels. But he's, when he was traveling, he's staying at a Holiday Inn Express. Don't tell people. That's what you say. You mean at the Wit Scout in rural Georgia, right?

[B]

I know, but can you imagine if he tried to stay at the Ritz Carlton? She wouldn't let him. Not without her. She'd be like, oh no, you're going to the Holiday Inn Express, sir. And you're lucky that it's not the Best Western non Express. So she's like, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And you could roll his eyes and shake his head, but he has no clue what type of stress that we go through as a stay at home mom, single, because your husband's gone. Okay, well, your kids are old and at school all day. And I'm not saying that that's nothing, but comparing that to this man working 10 jobs and driving all over the damn state to just try and get you Louis Vuitton towels. I'm. It's enough, Toya. Come on.

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Yeah, like, we all acknowledge that being like being a stay at home mom is a very rigorous and difficult job. Like we, we will never take that away. Even when, even when the kids are older, it's still a lot. But like, like, do you understand? Like you guys are moving houses every single year. There's extra, there's extravagance on display all the time. Like we see like the cars, we see the, the, the towels, etc, it's like, like that doesn't pay for itself. Like he has to go out and work these jobs. It's crazy.

[B]

And she's saying, well, you're sleeping and you know your family's coming and Going in your house is being run to perfection. So, yeah, I mean, it's not any different for you, but for me, it's very different. And he's like, but I'm home. She says, I'm home for five or six, seven days without my husband. And he's like, well, you can't have your cake and eat it too, Toya. And she just looks at him like, how dare you? Yeah, what else am I supposed to do with the cake?

[A]

Yeah. He's like, all these hospitals waste the cake. Well, all these hospitals I keep going to, they want me to work there full time. There's a good. There's a need for good ER doctors. There's not many. She's. Yeah, but there's also a need for good black husbands at our home. And he's like, I know, but, like. Which is why I took this job. So they. By the way, they are in a. Clearly in, like, a death spiral right now because, like, she's miserable. Because, you know what? Honestly, like, you know, it does suck because she wants. She wants him to be home with her, and. And so she's miserable that he's not home, and so she's resentful. So the time that they do have together, she's angry, which makes him want to actually leave more, which makes her more resentful. And lot of yada yada goes around in a circle, and it's not good. I know that Simone and Cecil will have a whole lot to bite into when they do their unlicensed couple therapy later this season in the Caribbean.

[B]

Couples therapy in the Bahamas or wherever. They do.

[A]

Really racing something. Yeah. Really races. And somehow this fixes everything.

[B]

The potato sack race of whose marriage is on rockier ground this season.

[A]

Toya, you're gonna speak to daddy and pretend that Daddy is Eugene. Now tell Daddy how you feel about Eugene. That's what's gonna be.

[B]

And say it on my lap, Cecil. So then we go to Dr. Jackie's office, and Quad's there, and Quad is there with King. And Jackie's like, oh, King came. He's gonna get an exam, too. And she's like, well, what are we checking on? King? Jj what are we gonna check out on King? King Jackie? And she said, we'll check out his prostrate. And he's like, oh, that's exit only. Sorry.

[A]

All right, well, Sam, you know, quad. So she introduces Quad to, like, the. The tech and everything.

[B]

He's. I love that he's acting like it's a gay thing. He's like, Exit only. Okay, so you're never gonna get a prostrate exam. Really?

[A]

It is. It is also kind of funny to think like, she's like, well, what are we checking on, King? I'm gonna stick my finger up his.

[B]

The OB gyn.

[A]

Well, yeah, I've got bad news for you, King. That day is going to come whether you like it or not. Someday a doctor's gonna stick their finger up your butt and it's gonna happen a lot sooner than you expect. So Jackie is like, so they're settling in everything and they're saying hi, etc, and then King saying he's from or asking about this. This tech from Jamaica, whatever. And they get in and Jackie is saying how, like, you know, she's working with the doctor in Ghana for this fertility journey and she could be supportive. And they're going to go look. They start looking for cysts and everything. What was so funny is that like, King did like a lot of research ahead of this appointment. So he knows like all this information. And he's like, he's like very happy that he's like, he knows stuff. He's like, sort of suppressing his smile because. Because basically quad is. They're looking at the service.

[B]

It's pretty smart, actually.

[A]

It's like more initiative than we've seen any husband on any show on Bravo ever do. To be honest, like, I was actually impressed. I was like, oh, his wife has a medical issue and he's actually sat down on the Internet and did like the research. So Dr. Jackie is like, so from the end of the uterus to the cervix, what? This is the cervix and quads, like, what is the cervix to for the people let everyone know. And King goes. King is like. And holds the baby. Jack is like, wow, he looked up with the cervixes. Look at that doctor.

[B]

Look at him. He's so smart, Jackie. He's so smart.

[A]

So since you have my man. So since you have a long cervix, we won't need to suture anything up because we'll. And we'll be good. Wow, look at that. He's like, I studied. He's so happy. Yeah, it's like.

[B]

And then we're going to measure the thickness of the walls and make sure they're not worn out's like, my walls are not wor.

[A]

Now watch your eyes.

[B]

How dare you.

[A]

How dare you talk about my worn out walls. No, my walls are stronger. The one who's got weak walls is Jill. The daffodil has it baby.

[B]

Jill, the daffodil has it baby.

[A]

So, so anyway, they're looking, there's. They see a little cyst and Jack is explaining it and you know that it's like, it's part of what happens, etc. And basically it's just a medical scene. And just. Only funny because King actually keeps on interjecting, but he's like, one thing about ovaries is that they tend to grow at a rate of 3 millimeters per year. He just has all these little facts. He's like, so happy.

[B]

It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappens commercial. Okay, so now we go over to Mimi and her husband and they're driving and they're like, we have a surprise for you kids. What do you think it is? And the boy is like a monster truck. And Savannah, the little girl's like, I think I just want like 60 lol dolls so I can have them. Maybe that's my surprise. LOL dolls.

[A]

Kids love those. The LOL dolls.

[B]

What are they? What's an LOL doll? I have to look it up.

[A]

You know, our friend Michelle, she has two, two daughters and when they were a little bit younger, they were always asking for these LOL dolls. They're like, I think they come in like a little box or a ball or something like that. A ball?

[B]

They come in like a little lunchbox ball.

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It.

[A]

I feel like it owes a lot to the Bratz community. By Brats, I mean the toy, nothing else. So yeah, they want this. This girl wants a lot of LOL dolls. And so Steve's like, you're excited for it. Like excited for summer. They're just making small talk with the kids and everything. And they're telling us that the kids are 18 months apart and CV was diagnosed with autism. He had certain peculiar behaviors and like that diagnosis was hard for them. And so they need to like, they're gonna find like a special needs camp for Stevie.

[B]

Yeah. So they're talking about that and then Stevie gets mad at his sister and hits her. And so she starts crying and they're like, oh, God. So they pull over and then they just basically talk about how hard, you know, how hard it is to learn how to deal. You Know, be good parents to their kid and all that. So it's nice. It's. I was like, I'm hilarious.

[A]

I found myself, like, out of nowhere, like, just. I got my. I started to get choked up because they're both crying in their interview. Like, they're both sitting there crying and actually really. See, these are. Two parents are really trying to work with this. It's a difficult situation. And they basically, like, Mimi goes in the back seat to sit with the son. The daughter goes in the front seat. Although it was funny, I thought, like, when the kid, like, punches sister and she's like. She starts to cry, and then they're like, can you guys, like, Stevie. Like, they. They reprimand their son. And then Steve Sanders is like. I think it was. Steve was like, okay, you guys have to hug. And I just thought it was funny because, like, they hug, but they're still mad at each other. But it's like what kids like, you know, when kids have to do things, you know, and they're like, Stevie's angry. She's like, let him go. But, like, it was cute. But, yeah, it was actually, like, a very beautiful scene. And I was definitely. I was like. I was like, they're such good parents. They're working so hard.

[B]

I'm imagining you sitting at home crying on your couch.

[A]

It's so funny because, you know, I can't stand kids. And yet, like, like, weirdly, like, I'll get, like, choked up about this stuff. Maybe I can't stand them because I secretly want them. No, that's a lie. I did. I definitely do not want kids.

[B]

Do it. Oh, my God.

[A]

Do it.

[B]

I would think that if you guys had kids.

[A]

Dink. Is that what. Matt.

[B]

Love it. Come on. I need a kid. Oh, absolutely. I got. I got a new baby here in Texas. My cousin had a baby baby. And she's so cute. Little Isla. But I don't have a new baby in. Well, actually, that's not true. My friend Rebecca just had a baby. Never mind. You're off the hook. You've got, like, five years till I meet. Oh, she had her baby, but then it's time.

[A]

That's exciting.

[B]

It's so cute. She's so cute.

[A]

You know what I. Oh, you know what I had last night?

[B]

I always need a baby in my life.

[A]

I did not have a baby last night. I had dinner with my friends, so that was fun. I liked being able to do that anyway.

[B]

Well, that is the thing. It's like, oh, I love your baby. Miss your mommy. You know, I always tell the baby, miss your mommy. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thanks for being born. I'm sure it's going to be great for you.

[A]

Yep. Like, you know, for us gays, that's what we see. We see our straight friends, they get married, and then you say, well, that's it. Having their babies. See you in 18 years.

[B]

I still see him all the time. It's just different, you know, it's not at, like, nice dinners. It's just like we're both covered in Cheerios now. And bar.

[A]

Yeah, of course you see that. It's just in a different context.

[B]

Yeah. So then Eugene and Toya are getting ready for their party. They're making a list, and Tori is inviting everybody. And she's saying, I'm very hesitant to invite the other ladies because we're judged on everything. I can't even keep track of all the things said about these late. These ladies have said about us. But I'm just trying hardest to give my friends the opportunity to show me something different. Oh, okay. And then, so we see clips of everybody being so judgmental, and it's like heavenly going, wait a minute, why are there camels at this party? Which I feel like is a valid, valid judgment.

[A]

And, like, also, you guys had tax issues, so that's why people are being judgy. Also, Toya, you're a judgy bitch. When I say bitch, I mean, like, the nice bitch. Like, yes, batch. Not like you're a judgy bitch, but, like, you know, you, like, you're like, we're judgy bitches, too. Like, that's just how it is. Were you not just being judgy about Contessa's office building five seconds ago? Like, I'm sure they could pull out a whole nice montage of you being judgy over the years. And guess what? Don't stop. We appreciate it and it's deserved. But also another thing is, like, whenever you buy a house that's, like, always inviting judgment no matter what. It doesn't matter if you're toy or just anyone who buys a house. People are gonna. People will judge and they'll have side conversations. I'm like, wow, I really like the house. Well, I was surprised they, like, I'm surprised they went for this or they did a good job with that. So if you keep buying a house every single year, you're just basically inviting a new round of judgments. Sorry.

[B]

Yeah. So she's telling Eugene, okay, well, I started texting now. Don't get me wrong, I started it but there was a fake Balenciaga purse that was left at my party the other day. So in our group chat, I said, whose fake ass purse is this? And Eugene's like, but why? Why do you have to go about it like that?

[A]

Who hates judgment? Hates judgments. She hates people being Toya.

[B]

Who doesn't have any fake things. I know. Yeah. Tori is like, why are they so judgmental? So who left this fake ass at my house?

[A]

Yeah. So Toya is like, well, so heaven heavenly sends a text, and it's like, baby, that's my purse. But, like, the h. But my house is paid off. Which I love that. That was heaven's response. It's like, that's my purse, but my house is paid off.

[B]

And Eugene goes, yeah, well, I'd hope so. You've been there 35 years. And she like, that's what I said. I mean, disgusting. They're living in an old house that they've been living off in. But, like, 35 years. Like, it's not gross. It's called being financially responsible and preparing yourself for retirement at some point. Unlike Eugene, who's never going to be able to retire. He's going to be working till he's 90 years old.

[A]

I know. I love how judgy they are for someone who's been in their house since 2023. I'm sorry. For 23 years. Like. Like. She's like, wow, that's. That's horrifying. You know, do you know that these things appreciate, right? Real estate's supposed to appreciate or I don't know. Yes.

[B]

You know that you are in debt and they have money coming to them, like, a lot of money coming to them from theirs. So Eugene is like, yeah, group chat. Bad idea. She's like, oh, you and your friends don't have a chat? And he's like, yeah, but we. He's like, no, we don't have a group thread. Which is weird, right? That the guys on this show don't have a group thread.

[A]

Me. That's. I don't believe it.

[B]

I don't believe that.

[A]

I don't believe it. There's guys chat. If there's anything we learn from the Valley, there's always guys chat. So Toya is like, yeah, the only thing it would be would be about cigars and the next golf outing and, like, you know, wearing sports jerseys, you know, Eugene was like, wow, can I have a group chat about that? I'm starting up right now. Hey, guys, I just got a new cigar. I want to go golfing. I Mean, get in New Jersey afterwards. Yeah.

[B]

He's like, whose fake golf bag is this? And they laugh. And she says, I mean, girl, let me go love all my. Oh. I said, girl, let me go love all my family friends who love me in return and get this party together. See ya. And then she put, girl, I'm in between patience. But I had to say this because my man loves me too, but his dick is so big. You're loving on some little. Let's go, Heavenly. I just want to be in a thread with Heavenly where she tells me off every day.

[A]

I know. And Eugene's like, this is the dumbest conversation ever. And he does that thing where he, like, sort of, like, looks left and right, you know, he's like. And he looks sort of like. He sort of becomes kind of like a little bit of a Muppet because his head shakes because the dumbest conversation ever. She's like, yeah, that was the first thing in the building. So now we go to Mimi and Steve.

[B]

You started it. You started it both with Heavenly and by telling everyone you wish your husband's dick was bigger.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I mean, you started it on every level. So then we go to Mimi and Steve. They're on their way, and he's Mimi saying. She's talking about the group chat and saying it was lit. She's like, toya and Heavenly went at it, and, like, I'm just embarrassed. Embarrassed about my friends acting like this in this group chat. I just want you to know what you might be walking into. You're embarrassed.

[A]

You're the one who signed up for this. This chat has been raging for years before you got here, Mimi. So then Toya announces. So this is the party. So after yelling at. Well, she didn't yell, but after. After basically, you know, chastising Eugene for working too much. Toya's like, okay, everyone, I'm now gonna throw a party with Louis Vuitton towels and all sorts of excess. It's a skip work day, Toya style. It's all about serenity, which. Spoiler alert, there's nothing serene about this party.

[B]

The fact that she says it's all about serenity is hilarious. So she's like, yeah, I'm gonna take the girls and transport them to the south of France.

[A]

No, no, this is not the south of France at all. This is not the south of France. Like the south of a French dressing bottle, maybe. So she's like, yeah, you gotta have a bartender with frozen drinks that cool you off. And we see, by the way, big week for that Frozen margarita machine because it was the same one that Craig had on Southern Charm. I got a bunch of close ups on this episode.

[B]

Oh, it's like the same brand and everything?

[A]

I think so. It looked like it. Maybe we should put that on our. On our Amazon live.

[B]

Yeah. Are they selling these on Bravo right now? So then Cecil, you know, people start arriving and stuff, and Eugene's like, did you skip work? And Cecil's like, well, hers can't be a skip date because she's skipping patients. And someone's like, I would have called. I would. I would have to be called. Leave the patience behind.

[A]

So they. They say, hi, Anila's there. And. Oh, God, Anila and Kieran, they show up in, of course, a cybertruck. I, for some reason, I didn't really peg Kieran to be a cyber truck driver. I pegged him to be someone who'd make fun of those people. I pegged Eugene to be a side.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I thought Eugene would be the one with the cyber truck because Eugene is very much like, he's like a big old, like, tech nerd. And I feel like he would be into, like, the techie, like, the, like, oh, my God, it's all driving and has all these features. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, the way, like, all those Tesla, like, the hardcore, like, Tesla people are. So I thought Eugene would be the one, and then Kieran would just be, like, making fun of him. But it was actually Kieran who has it. And, like, I'm just so embarrassed for him. I'm embarrassed for anyone who has those trucks. I'm sorry to say.

[B]

Sorry, that's just yellow trucks are stupid. They're legitimately triangles. They don't. They don't even make any sense. And I was wondering, have you ever seen the windows down on those? Are they like knives? Are they like sharp daggers that, I don't know, chop your children's fingers off? Because they're perfect triangles. And, you know, and then the window goes up into a triangle. So how does that work?

[A]

Work? I know we're gonna get some emails from some people being like, I actually have a cyber truck. And, like, I swear I'm not a dick. It's actually a really nice truck. Like, I'm very happy for you, but what part of me saying that we are judgy did you not hear? I am a judgy. I'm a judgy. And I see the cyber truck. I've got the cyber. The. The cybertruck cafe. The. The pilot experiment. The cybertruck Diner is like a few blocks for me. And all I see is all those line up drove by that lined up.

[B]

Oh my gosh. I drove past that the other day going, I think I was with you. We were doing something in Hollywood and I was leaving there and going somewhere else in Hollywood and I passed that little place and I was cracking up. I mean, it's the biggest douchebag there's. Everybody's like out there shooting content. They're like, hey, they're like standing on their Tesla pretending they're surfing. Like, you getting this? Yeah, they're like shooting like hip hop music videos in the streets and their cyber trucks. And it's like, oh my God, literally every person in here is a fucking douchebag.

[A]

All douche.

[B]

There was not one normal person. It was literally all tick tock content creators acting like dicks. I was cracking up because I had never seen that before. It was like a movie set.

[A]

It's. It's crazy. It's crazy. And then so I'm just like not gonna have sympathy for anyone who drives a cyber truck because it's just a douchey car. I'm sorry.

[B]

Now I will say the Tesla. My cousin, one of my cousins got a Tesla and she was telling me about it the other day. That self driving feature sounds amazing now. That sounds amazing. Now politically I wouldn't get it because.

[A]

Get away, Mo.

[B]

I would feel gross driving one.

[A]

Get away.

[B]

But I don't think people buy waymos for themselves.

[A]

Those are just like, no.

[B]

And also they have like the full chimney thing on top, the chimney fan or whatever.

[A]

I like to think of it as a top hat.

[B]

Yeah, but the Tesla, she's like, yeah, I have it. Take me to the mall. I said, because she went to the mall Christmas shopping and I'm like, who does that right before Christmas? Wasn't it crazy on the weekend? And she said, oh yeah. But I just had my car drop me off in the front and then I told it to go park itself. So it went to find parking and then when I was ready, it came to pick me up.

[A]

That's wild.

[B]

I mean, I didn't know the Tesla's got crazy.

[A]

I thought the Teslas were like, we're in the car. And it was sort of like drive for you. Like it would follow the lanes, everything. But you still sort of have to monitor it. You could take your foot off the gas, it'll do the rest. I didn't know it was like you actually get out of the car. Imagine like that's what. Imagine that's the story that you were told. But in reality, it's like, news report. Like, abandoned Tesla Rolls crashes into three cars at the mall parking lot.

[B]

I wouldn't put it past this cousin to just be like, yeah, I just got out in front, and when I came back, my car was there waiting for me.

[A]

That is totally like her, I tell you.

[B]

I never drove away at all.

[A]

I did take my first Waymo, by the way. I took Waymo for the first time.

[B]

Your first wine?

[A]

Yeah. Have you taken.

[B]

I don't know why I'm judging. I've never taken one. No, I've never taken.

[A]

It was kind of.

[B]

I drive everywhere because I don't really drink anymore. I don't drink that much anymore, so.

[A]

But it was kind of great. It was. What was crazy about it is that it changes lanes very aggressively. Like, it's kind of like. Well, it was very much like the teemo of changing lanes. It's like, now is the time to change lanes. And I was like. Like, whoa. But it was. It was nice.

[B]

I make lane change now.

[A]

You move. It was fun. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed my Waymo experience. I. It's wild. At first. It really is wild. You're really like, wow, there's no one driving this car. The steering wheel is just turning itself, and I'm in the hands of a robot. But every time I start to get freaked out about that. You just have to remember. Remember all the times you've been in the hands of a human and the terrible decision that they make over and over and over again, and somehow the robot doesn't seem as bad.

[B]

Yeah, I'm here for the robot apocalypse. Frankly, I think it's great. I mean, not the apocalypse where they turn on us and kill us all, but the point leading up to that sounds so fun.

[A]

I love the little.

[B]

You know, we're like, robots do everything, and, you know, it's great. Until they get sick of our.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, so this is a party about serenity. And she's like. And then everybody's gonna walk around outside and be transformed, where you just feel like you're around people with money.

[A]

All right, so toya for Toria.

[B]

That's so tacky.

[A]

So tacky.

[B]

So be like, I want everybody to come to my place and feel like they're around money. People with money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like people with money don't feel like.

[A]

It's just like, you.

[B]

You feel like you're around people with money because we're all rich. Like, I don't have to make you feel that way with, like, cheesy branded towels.

[A]

Yeah. Or napkins. Zatoya's like. It's like, well, I'm going by my napkin right there. Did you. Did you read it, Mimi? That napkin? Did you just sit on that little bitty ass that. So she's mad because Mimi put a napkin down and sat on it, and the napkin was, like, monogrammed or something. And Toya was so, so mad that this napkin was not. And this is also how you can see the difference. Ryan and I recently, like, we had. We went to someone's house who was very, very, very wealthy. Very, very, very, very wealthy. And she had all monogrammed cloth napkins. And they were like. And we're. I was like, oh, my God. This is like. I was being so careful with it. It was like a monogram. It was like a little cloth napkin with a monogram. I was like, gotta be careful. And she was like, oh, don't worry about that. I've got pack of 500 or something like that. Because you're. When you're wealthy, you just buy them in mass. It's like buying solo cups. And that's the difference, because Toya was like, wait, but that was one of my monogram napkins.

[B]

But I think it's also really offensive that she just, like, came and put a napkin down and then sat down, like. And she goes, why are you doing that? Because my shit's clean, okay? This isn't Heavenly's house.

[A]

It's also funny because I thought napkin's probably not gonna. That was funny. But, like, I didn't. I didn't. I was looking away from the tv, and I didn't go back. Did she put it down to protect herself, or did she just sit on a napkin without realizing?

[B]

I don't know. But she's like, are you confused because she sat on that little bitty napkin? Like, it was a cleat or something over there. And Mimi's like, so this negativity. And Steve's like, yeah, where are you coming from with this negativity? And.

[A]

And this is like. That's why it holds on to it for the rest of the episode. Because later on, when she's, like, calling up you, who are being negative at a party, and she's like, Mimi. It's like, because of the napkin. Because you sat on the napkin.

[B]

Yeah, she's coming for Mimi.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now Heavenly and Damon arrive, and Heavenly's like, oh, what a beautiful home now. Wow, look at this. Can we go straight to the bar? I said it was nice. Okay, now can we just go to the bar? And so Tori is like, oh, look at you, Goldilocks. She goes, oh, this is a beautiful house, Toy. I swear to God, it looks like your last one, but grander. This first one, not the last one you were in. Just that, you know, just so it's not like this one. It's not like the last one you were in, you know, this one. This one's grander. And you know what? It has so much more debt attached to it. Congratulations, Toy.

[A]

This is. I really like this one. This is. This is much better than their last one. Not the last one. The one before that. Well, the one that was after the other one. But before the other one, what was the one with the waterfall, which had the double doors, which was the one that was haunted, that had the ghosts and. But the one that also had the basketball.

[B]

Not that.

[A]

The one with the pool on the inside.

[B]

And Toria.

[A]

Tori is like, oh, so the one.

[B]

We actually built, the forever home that lasted two weeks. Come on now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So heavenly. It's like. I mean, all the homes are nice. I mean, she's been in seven or eight homes. I could probably count them out, but who has the time? Toria works hard. She works hard, baby. She works hard for the money. I don't know what now. I don't know what she does, but she works. She does something.

[A]

So she's like, are you still mad at me from this morning? She's like, no, no, no. I promise to God, no. I just came in to get my purse. That's all. I just need my purse. That's all. I. That's anything. Which is funny because Toya is still mad from the morning, but she's asking if Heavenly still mad. She's like, well, now, you know, the purses is a. Go into my closet. I mean, I wouldn't even go in. I mean, my door wouldn't unlock. She's like, yeah, I just need my purse. Give me my purse, please. So then. Then all of a sudden, these servers come out and they're like. It's like a guy in like. Like. Like tidy Whitey is like this muscular guy. Gorgeous muscular guy. And everyone's like, what? What's going on? Makes no sense. Like the husband. But then also like. But then there's like a woman who comes out in a bikini, and we're like, what is happening here? Why. Why do we have these scantily clapped.

[B]

People to come into this party and feel like rich people are here? I'm like, yep. Just like you see at every wealthy person's party, strippers in their underwear serving, you know, like, classic Costco, you know, weenies.

[A]

Or you go to Greenwich, Connecticut, and I'll tell you one thing, all of those bankers have nothing but bikini clad servers. Dick.

[B]

You're gonna see some dick. That's for sure. And Emily's like, oh, my God, look at this. Look at this guy with his dick out. So, I mean, they brought their whole dicks out at the table. Simone. And Tori's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, mimi, you look uncomfortable. And Tori's like, come on, let's go outside. Come on. So now they go out, and Tori's like, go stop by the Bend server. Go. Go. Ask will do what he wants.

[A]

Yeah. And all the guys like, what is happening? So Jackie and Curtis arrive, and then contestants Scott and Mimi's asking for a tour of the house. So Toya gives, like, a tour. It's like, okay, okay, this is my closet. Look, there's a. Like, there's a tree in the closet. And contest is like, wow, this is amazing. Who thought to put a tree in here? That's. Who would have thought? That's amazing. You know, they're all like, why is there a tree in her closet?

[B]

It. Why is there a big fake, like, Michael's tree in your. I know. With cherry. Plastic cherry blossoms glued on there? Like, is there storage in this tree? What do you do? Do you lean on it to put on your shoes? Like, what is the point of this tree? Could you have had an island or something that you could, like, fold clothes on or something?

[A]

Was this part of Avery's school play? Like, you're, like, very attached to the set. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So then quad and King arrive, and everyone's like, hey, King. Hey, we hired you to be a server. You gotta take your shirt off or whatever. He's like, no, no, no, Ro. I love this house, but I'm a little uncomfortable. I mean, why are there naked men here? Whoa, whoa. I can't see naked men.

[B]

Like, sir, would you like an appetizer? Exit only. Exit only. Okay. All right. So then Tori is like, oh, oh, oh, oh, you need some more? Okay, let's stop to play a game. Okay. It's girls versus guys, so I'm just. It's just gonna show how shape you guys are. Okay. I'm gonna put some hula hoops on the ground, and I want you to keep in shape so that we go on the couple's Trip. You all look good. And you could take off your shirts. And they're like, what the hell kind of game? It says there is no game in the world that would get me ready to go take off my shirt. Out of town. Okay, Put your hula hoops away. Save yourself some.

[A]

So she basically, she wants to have like a fun little scene, but, like, at the. At all the husband's expense. And the guys are like, like, we thought this was like a day off. Like, we don't, like, we don't want to play a game. We just want to hang out and smoke our cigars. And she's like, we gotta do it. We're gonna do it. And Eugene's like, okay, guys, I'm gonna write a script. So that way we can be excused from strenuously exercise. So he starts writing, like, a prescription. You know, that's like a joke. Let me show you how to play. Okay. Eugene, Eugene, Eugene. Now, you know, out of anyone, I understand the frustration of when you're trying to put together a party game and you want people to pay attention and have buy in, because, you know, it could be really fun, it could be really funny, it could be a really great moment. And then there's one person who's like. Their humor is to be like, you know, anti. And then they ruin the whole vibe and your whole thing goes down in flames. So I get that. I fully get that from Toya. But your party game is to, like, humiliate, like, your husband, you know, and it's like, no, Toya. Like, this is like your whole thing is that you. You want him to be home more. And then now he's home and you want to, like. You want to, like, humiliate him with like, of this party game. I don't. I don't think this is.

[B]

Well, even that. I mean, the game didn't even. Nothing. We don't even know anything about the game, so we don't even know if it was good, bad, whatever. But she's like, eugene, are you paying attention? And he's. He's pretending to write the prescriptions, and he's like, oh, I'm just gonna keep writing these. She goes, oh, really? You want to be hard right now? And he's like, like, she suddenly goes, like. So she starts, like, going at him at this party, and it's really awkward, and she's trying, I think, to, like, get some.

[A]

She's like, there's like a desperation about.

[B]

Her husband in his place, or there's something so weird about it that's just gonna, like, let Eugene have it in front of everybody and show everybody who's boss.

[A]

And it's like, there's, like, she comes in with an energy to this whole game that's like, not, like, okay, guys, we're gonna do something fun. She's like, okay, Eugene, okay, I'll let you do your thing. And then when you're done, like. Or she. She doesn't even say something like, like, okay, could you. Eugene, please, can you, like, help me out with this? Like, she sort of has this, like, determination. Like, I'm gonna have this scene. We're gonna do this. We're gonna do this. Like, oh, you're not gonna do this with me. Oh, so now you're gonna be hard. Like, there's, like, there. There's like a. She's, like, unsettled or something, and it starts to, like, totally unravel for her, and she cannot stop herself now. Now she's going down this path, and he's like, whoa, whoa. When she's like, oh, now you're gonna be hard, because now she's, like, really kind of like, she is now, like, challenging him at, like, on, like, a personal level that's already now very awkward for all the guests because we. You know that this has now shifted from banter to, like, oh, this is a couple fights.

[B]

So Steve's like, wow, why is your wife talking to you like that, bro? And she's like, uji, Uji, are you done? And he's like, I had to some doctor's excuses. And Scott's like, oh, yeah, we got doctor's excuses so we don't have to participate. Like, oh, yeah, you think you're really funny, Eugene. And he's like, so what if we got doctor's notes? We got notes. And so this. It's, like, trying to be funny, but it's past that point because she's made it so awkward. So she's like, okay, men, come on this side. And, Eugene, can you be the leader of your house and lead your friends to this side? And Heavenly's like, oh, no, Toya. Toya, no, no, baby. No, no, no. And she goes, well, how else do you expect them to get up? And Evelyn goes, say, daddy.

[A]

Like that. It always works. Eugene's like, I mean, you can do it in a nice way or you can do it in a mean way. She's like, I did it a nice way first. I've been asking you for the last 30 minutes. And he's like, yeah. And we had a joke where we had doctors. It wasn't funny. He's like, but you want to do that? We're not gonna do that. She's like, well, it wasn't funny. Chris is like, I mean, it's kind of funny. I mean, some of these are funny if you. You read the prescriptions. Like, this one here is very funny. I don't want to hear it.

[B]

Yeah. So he's like, well, I can sit here all day long. Eugene says so. She's like, I thought, I'm over there. I'm over. I'm over it. Now the whole party is standing basically in a circle watching her just lose her mind. It's so awkward. And so she walks inside all pissed off, and he's. He's like, okay. It's okay. I mean, we've been married 18 years, right? I'll get over this.

[A]

Everything's fine.

[B]

And so, yeah, Anila pulls Toya to go try and have a scene, which I love that they didn't even put one sliver of dialogue of Anila's in there. They just cut it all out. Sorry, Anila. You can keep trying it. But, yeah, the production's a huge no on Anila. So Heavenly's like, oh, no, they're gonna start this shit in a new house. I mean, this house costs too much. The divorce is gonna take too much money away from the house. I mean, who's gonna get the house? And Gwan's like, no one. They're gonna stay together, and they're gonna kill each other in this house.

[A]

And then Curtis turns to King. He's like, is this what you got to look forward to? And King's like, man, no, nada. I did some research, and I found that one out of seven couples end in divorce. So I'm already prepared. Like, wow, you really do do your research. So Toya's like, well, they all want to do is just, like, sit around and drink and watch that, you know, watch asses walk by. And Neil's like, well, then let's let it let. We can play the game. And she's like, no, it's not. It just. It wasn't just the game, okay? And so Katesa now comes up to console Toya in this. They're in the closet. And she's like, for a man, that's.

[B]

A good party sliver.

[A]

What'd you say?

[B]

She did get a sliver of time. She got a line, right, Nila, Sorry. Yeah. I thought you didn't even get one.

[A]

Stop with the Anila erasure. Okay, I did.

[B]

I was like, yes, for erasing Anila. She deserves it.

[A]

Just happy her mom wasn't there, to be honest. So. So they're like. They're, like, rallying around her. And then Eugene is. Or maybe they're not even in the. In the closet yet. They're inside. And Eugene. And he's like, you know, he's like, you know, you don't have to talk to me. But Toya, like. And she's like, no, don't try to be nice to me now, okay? Because all. Because you were, like, just out there being embarrassing to me. And he's like, what the fuck did you just say? Like, what do you mean?

[B]

It's like, don't fucking cuss at me.

[A]

Because you don't want me to curse at you. What I said to you is, hey, can you please be the leader and lead the man? And there's nothing wrong with that. You took that personal because you obviously don't feel like you are. You were not like, could you please lead the men and help out in this game? No, Toya, you were being wretched.

[B]

No. And that's not where it started. It started way before that when you were, like, yelling at him at the park party for no reason and acting like an.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, she's just such an. In the situation. And now she's doing it again. She's yelling. Now she's yelling at him in front of the guests again. Now they're just doing it inside. And he's like, but, I mean, listen, the ladies next to you took it personal, too. And she goes, oh, them? I don't give a. What they think. They don't even have real conversation with their husbands. And they don't know how to be, like, you know, how to be who they are unless they're not around their husband. And you want to sit there and compare. Compare them to us. I need to go fix my makeup. I was like, okay, so not only is your husband a piece of. But all your friends. Marriages suck.

[A]

Yeah. And this is somehow evidence of your. Of your relationship actually being the best. So then Scott's like, yeah, she just needs a minute to calm down. And Eugene's like, yeah, well, I mean, we're easy to get hot. And, you know, me too. And I'm not gonna say it's just. It's not just her, you know? And Scott's like, you're easy to get hot. Like Eugene. Eugene is like, never lost his temper, like, massively. And Eugene's like, yeah, no, I'm like, really? I'm like, really easy to get hot. Guys, like, look like, I'm angry. See, guys, that was like, so. That was so hot right there. I was like, so lost my temper. Right? Like, mm. So then Steve is like, just a question, just asking to learn. Is that, like, normal or was that extreme for you guys? Like, do you guys fight like this all the time or.

[B]

Yeah. And they're like, so are you trying to psychoanalyze this now? And so they. They start kind of laughing. And Mimi's like, listen, marriage is the most sanctification that you will experience. It shows you yourself. Well, that's horrifying. He just had to fight with Toya. Don't tell him that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wants to see himself in Toya or Toy and himself or whatever. So he's like, okay, well, I could have read the room better because she's super stressed about having. No, this is crazy. You did not read the room wrong. Toya's being an. And somebody needs to tell her. Everybody in this house is just kissing Toya's ass now. Now that all the girls go upstairs like, no, Toya, you were right. No. Heavenly is the only person here who's like, no, that's not cool. You shouldn't be yelling at your husband like that in front of everybody. And it's right. Whether Heavenly is an most of the time or not. This is crazy of Toya.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I. I agree totally. And so King's. So then King's like, well, I like the apology, but an apology is with an attitude. That's just like, no apology at all. And Cloud's like, well, if I feel like I've done something wrong, I'll come back and I'll apologize. Like, but you don't apologize nicely. You apologize with attitude. I was like, excuse me, King, what are you doing?

[B]

What are you doing? Sir? You can sit down, too. This isn't even about you. Why do you need to insert yourself? Being an in a scene that's not even a King being an.

[A]

Doing so well, this episode, like I.

[B]

Was saying last year, this everybody thinks is real cute with King is going to be done. And I'm saying five years, but. But probably less. I mean, this would get grading. This guy just being a dick on purpose just to, like, be hilarious. But he's not being hilarious. He's saying what he really means. He's like, oh, I'm just gonna tell all your friends now that you're a total asshole to me, and you only apologize with attitude. Like, what are you. We already have Toya. Okay? Be quiet. We'll get to you later.

[A]

So Toya's upstairs and she's like, well, I walked away because I was. I was just starting to get a little less, you know. And Cadessa's like, well, I came to check on you, boo. Because someone once asked, who's gonna check me, boo. And it'll be me, and I'm gonna check on you. And I was looking for you to teach us how to play that game, you know? And she's like, you and Scott? No. What I really want, I'm gonna be nice and include one person, but I'm gonna have my own personal conversation with them. She's like, oh, oh, so you're gonna exclude Heavenly? And she's like, yeah, I want Heavenly and Mimi to get out. I want them to get out. And just as a reminder, that's two people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the only thing that I can see that Mimi did wrong here was sit on a nap. Right? So Toya's like, I want them out. And Cadessa's like, so you want me to go tell them you want me to be the bad guy? I don't have a problem with that. She's like, yeah, I don't like that. Don't do that. Like, don't take on. Don't take in the arguments between me and my husband. Like, that's not cool. So now I feel like Toya is going to try to create a narrative where they would have had a normal conversation, but Heavenly egged it on to become a bigger fight than it actually was, which is not true whatsoever.

[B]

It's not true. I mean, all she said was, don't. You shouldn't talk to your husband like that. And she was right. You were being embarrassing. So now she's gonna make it all their fault, you know? So Quad's like, well, I love your beautiful tree. She's like, thank you. But, you know, watching you g. Did I like a TV show talking about, like, don't talk to him like that, Toya, because you were making a scene.

[A]

And you're on a TV show.

[B]

You don't want people to act like an audience and stop making a scene. You're literally on tv.

[A]

And Contessa's like, you're literally on tv. All, yeah.

[B]

She's like, yes. And Contessa's like, I don't need people telling me how to talk to my husband. And Tori's like, yeah, but, you know, like, leader of the household, lead the men. I mean, where's the insult in that?

[A]

Because you're saying that, like, he's not really. You were. Because you didn't say it like you're.

[B]

Saying, he's not a man.

[A]

He's not a leader or a man.

[B]

If you're the man of the house, be a man. You're not even a man. You can't even do that.

[A]

And then you. And then you were like, oh, now's the time that you want to be hard. Implying that he. He does. He's often very soft. He's not. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't, you know, stiffen up in most situations. So contest is like, can you talk to Eugene and be nice? Because he's nothing but contrary right now. He's very apologetic. Yes, he really is. So contro. And Toya's like, well, he's always apologize to other people. And Cl's like, no, he's gonna apologize to you. You can do it. So Toya's like, okay, fine. So she goes downstairs and she's like, hey, Toya, who's.

[B]

They just had this conversation. They're like, just go make up with Eugene. It's like, okay, let's get back to a positive place. Sounds great, guys. Okay, now we can go back to a peaceful party. Sounds great. I'll be right back, guys.

[A]

So she goes downstairs to hear Eugene out, and she goes, y' all listening? Because you like to listen to all the negative. So for those of you who are my friends who like to sit here and watch me and Eugene go back and forth and talk all that about what are your relationship alike? Like, what about what your relationships are like when you're not. Please don't make me list all the. That I know about all of you. Don't do that to me. Don't do it, because I'm done with this. I literally just chavenly's like, what is.

[B]

She even mad about? And she's like, well, we just really up. Because you know why? He was more concerned about what the you hater think. And that's what the. I was concerned. Now she's screaming at the whole party and calling them all haters. It's like, are you looking at me? She goes, yeah, I'm looking at you because you stood right here. It was you, Heavenly, Brandy, Mimi, all you talked about us. And Heavenly's like, I mean, Eugene knows the way you treat him. It's like, this is my house, and we love each other. We got kids upstairs. So let's be clear, because I'm not drunk at all. I'm not drunk at all what I'm gonna do, what I'm not gonna do is have you up here smiling my face. Face when you get my back as far as my marriage. Oh, okay. And Heavenly's like, oh, everybody's got your back with your marriage. We, your friends. I mean, everybody was saying the same. I mean, having your back in the marriage is telling you to stop, like, verbally abusing your husband in front of your friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's shit behavior.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

So Angel's like, yeah, this is because Angel's there, by the way. Angel's like, this, baby, this. This energy is not good in your new house. And Brandy's like, I don't even remember what we said. And quite like, well, we've got to be mindful of each other's feel. That's why. One of the reasons why, when you go to people's houses, you just gotta be in your best behavior. Just hold your tongue real tight, because if you say anything, they're gonna put your ass out. That's it. So everyone's like, okay, well, quad would know.

[B]

Quad has been put out of many a house on this show. She's like, take it from me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Say one thing in someone else's house, you're screwed. You want to fight with someone, do it at a restaurant.

[A]

Yep. So everyone's like, well, thanks, Eugene. Thanks for having us. That's fun.

[B]

Party.

[A]

They're like, bye. Bye. So someone pulls Toya.

[B]

That's so awkward. Wow. It just ends. So it starts with Toya screaming at her husband in front of everybody and ends with Toya screaming at everybody.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh. So Simone is like, okay, Toya, tell me what's going on. She's like, I'm just tired of them. Tired of being judged. Like, our relationship is only different from anyone else's. I'm over it. I'm tired of crying. And every. Can you please get me a napkin with my name on it, please? And so Simone is like, okay, well, you know, people deflect, and they deflect all to you because they don't want to deal with their own. She's like, you can't take that in. And basically, Simone's like, I understand how. How she feels, because. But what I don't understand is why she's giving Heavenly all this power. Like, don't give her any ammunition.

[B]

Of course Simone is going to turn this into Heavenly thing too. She's going to be like, oh, yeah, this is Heavenly's problem. Yeah, I don't understand why she gives Heavenly this power how about out Tell her to stop yelling at her husband in front of the friends and then stop screaming at all of the friends at the party. Yeah, like you're just trying to use her against your own proxy war against Heavenly. Which is crazy because heavenly was just being really nice to you at that other event when you were leaning on her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sort of. Weirdo. So Heavenly is like, well, this house is beautiful. Thank you all so much. Daddy, let's go toy. I never said anything bad, by the way. She's like, yes, you did. No, I didn't. What did I say? And she's like, I sat there and I walked. Watch you, Heavenly. She goes, I said that that's how.

[A]

They love each other.

[B]

You know, some people's love language is gifts, and some people's love language is hugs. And Tori's love language is just ripping her husband a new in front of people.

[A]

You sarcastically do that on the regular. She's like, well, it's a beautiful house and I thank you for it. Bye.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

You've got my fake purse because I need it. Because we can't get. We can't get through. We can't get the door open. She gets so mad. She's like, you're door. Your cantilever door, whatever it was that cadessa cadess was like, I love a cantilever door, whatever it was called. So then they finally like, get this door open. And Heavenly's like, mimi, did we see anything negative about the marriage? Mimi's like, well, that's the thing. Well, no, we didn't. But the thing is that she doesn't know that right now she can't receive anything from us because toya style of communication is very one sided. She likes to hear her own opinion. And you just have to meet people where they are. And she is just right there, like, nowhere.

[B]

So King tries to get Heavenly to go back in. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no. And Damon's like, here's the thing. Like, Eugene's my friend and Torio's cool with me, so I'd rather leave. And I'm not like, it's not hatred, it's just respect, you know? And she's like, well, bless this house. It's a beautiful house. It's a beautiful house. The bank is gonna love taking this house back. Back. They're gonna love it.

[A]

So then Brandy is inside. Is like saying, it's never my intention to make you feel that way and especially if it created any issue with your marriage. So I apologize for that if it made you feel that way. Contessa. And because they're talking about her party. And Contessa's like, well, I don't know. One marriage that people don't argue in. She's like, yeah, no, I'm sorry. For real. And Quad's like, well, people fight in friendships, so you know that they fight in marriages. It just is what it is.

[B]

Yeah, but then don't go around saying, I'll be a friend. And they'd be like, why are you judging me behind my back? You know? And Jackie's like, well, I still have to say you're both wrong. She's like, don't start that, Willie. Then, okay, well, it's better than saying you're wrong, which is the truth.

[A]

Jackie's like, okay, instead of saying, I will have to say, I'll just say, I enjoy saying that you're both wrong. That was fun. Let me do it again.

[B]

Now, have you considered counting your calories as a couple?

[A]

Simone's like, well, they had a beef even before she got here. It's like, yeah, it was not a beef about anything. I mean, Heavenly has a beef with everybody in the room. What are you talking about? Heavenly has dogged your husband. And Heavenly's talked about Jackie's husband. She talked about her whole life and her ass and everything that you could think of. And. And she with anybody. And you, angel, you're gonna be next. And then you're. Brandy, you're next, too. And of course, we see him. I think we see a montage of Heavenly talking about everyone on this cast for years and years and years. And by the way, it's hilarious, right?

[B]

But that's not. That's not wrong. Like, what she's saying isn't wrong, but it's also nothing to do with. This was you. This was all you. This was all your fault. You made an ass out of yourself. And I thought there was, like, a glimmer of hope for her when she said, I feel like I failed myself today. I was like, oh, wow, Toya is going to take some responsibility. And then she goes. Because heavily is a snake. This just slip. Oh, okay. Okay. So it's all heavy.

[A]

Trying to deflect it off.

[B]

A typical.

[A]

Typical.

[B]

And she says she's gonna keep slivering until you chop her head off. It's like, geez, yeah, don't chop Heavenly's head off, because she, as usual, is the most entertaining thing about this show.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

About this episode and every episode on the show. Show. She is hilarious. And all she had to say was like four. I know the entire show.

[A]

Yeah, it was wild. It was a really, really good episode. Well, thanks everyone for.

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Yikes.

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