#3133 Crappens Rewind: My Octopus Teacher on Netflix (Part 2)

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Episode: #3133 - Crappens Rewind: My Octopus Teacher on Netflix (Part 2)
Release Date: December 24, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Overview

In this spirited and comedic episode, Ben and Ronnie continue their two-part satirical recap of Netflix’s documentary My Octopus Teacher. With their signature blend of sharp wit and Bravo-laden references, the hosts dissect the film’s later stages—from the octopus regrowing her arm, shark chases, and motherhood to her poignant end—always comparing the underwater drama to Real Housewives antics and infusing the recap with personal commentary, pop culture humor, and heartfelt moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Patty’s Recovery & Craig’s Self-Reflection

• Patty the Octopus regrows an arm (Day 134):
  • The hosts marvel at her resilience and liken her to “a diva” from Broadway, making repeated references to theater and musical performances.
  • Ben (as Jess): “My name in big lights. Because I’m back and I’m going for the Tony.” (04:43)
• Craig Foster’s tendency to make the octopus’s struggles about himself:
  • The hosts poke fun at Craig’s self-aggrandizing narration:
    • “Craig, you did not lose a limb... Your thing is that, like, you said hi to your wife today for the first time in six months. It's not the same.” (02:00)
• Googling whether Craig Foster’s wife is alive:
  • In classic Crappens fashion, Ben and Ronnie do real-time research to see if the documentary filmmaker’s wife is alive—and upon confirmation, tease Craig for having a perfect life, yet still feeling incomplete.
    • “Craig, look around. You've got everything.” (04:16, Jess)
    • “And she's a famous author, too.” (04:31, Ronnie)

The Food Chain: Crab vs. Octopus Showdown

• The graphic, almost Bravo-like battle between Patty and a crab:
  • They anthropomorphize the crab as “the Bethenny Frankel of the sea,” and later as Lindsay from Summer House—in full reality TV style:
    • “They're like basically the Bethenny Frankel's of the sea, right?...I'm jump off this ledge. Okay? I can't. I literally I can't.” (06:26, Jess)
    • “The crab is Lindsay from Summer House. You do not want to see Me activated. I'm gonna pinch you.” (09:03, Jess)
  • Despite the impending doom for the crab, the hosts reflect on their own empathy biases for sea creatures.
• Ronnie ponders:
  • “I was wondering, why am I feeling for the octopus? And now I'm never gonna eat an octopus again. But I'm not feeling for the crab. Is it because I think the crab is dumber than the octopus?” (06:59)

Bravo Parallels, Banter, and More Undersea Hijinks

• Humorous analogies continue:
  • The brittle stars (perceived as “starfish-in-Alien”) invade Patty’s dining room (“Get out, get out. This dressing room is for friends and family only.” (12:01, Jess))
  • Patty’s defense is strikingly compared to reality show tactics.

Escalation: Lobsters, Shell Drilling & Octopus Ingenuity

• Patty attempts lobster hunting and struggles:
  • “She keeps on trying to do crab techniques on lobsters, but, you know, those are two different kind of beasts.” (13:47, Jess)
• Deep-dive into octopus eating strategies:
  • Hosts discuss the actual method: base-of-arm drill to inject venom—fascinated by her geometric abilities.
    • “The geometry that she does to drill the precise spot to get her food.” (15:50, Craig Foster/quoted by Jess)
  • Ben (Jess) finds representation in a “sea slug wearing a yarmulke.” (16:45)

Ocean Aesthetics & Forest Mind

• Jellyfish are the unsung heroes (“stunningly gorgeous”), and the kelp forest is described as a “giant underwater brain.” (17:25, Ronnie & Craig Foster)
• “Everything was perfect in the forest” — until the return of the menacing shark. (17:30, Craig Foster)

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Tension & Drama: Shark Attacks, Broadway Escapes

• Multiple harrowing shark attack sequences:
  • The hosts complain that Craig doesn't intervene:
    • “At what point...you gotta step in here, Craig...Just get rid of that shark. Because this is your friend here!” (21:23, Jess)
• Patty’s escape artistry—assembling a shell suit:
  • “She does it so fabulously....she just grabs individual shelves from all over and puts together this amazing outfit.” (22:16, Ronnie)
  • “It’s like Molly Ringwald in Pretty in Pink, how she sews her own prom dress.” (22:29, Ronnie)
• Patty survives by confusing the shark and then literally rides its back:
  • “Somehow we will never know how she is now on top of the shark, just riding it like a horse, still all in her shells.” (23:44, Jess)
  • Shark’s failure analogized to a banished Housewife:
    • “You are ashamed to all of us sharks, and you are banished. Go out to find another kelp forest.” (25:01, Jess)

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The Final Chapter: Mating, Legacy and Loss

• Octopus maternal arc:
  • Craig narrates Patty’s dedication as she oxygenates her eggs, sacrificing her life.
    • “Here's an invertebrate, a mollusk, sacrificing her life for her young. Reminds me so much of myself.” (32:01, Craig Foster/quoted)
    • Hosts mock Craig’s knack for making everything about himself:
      • “Like how I almost sacrificed my life, really, only for myself, actually...” (32:19, Jess)
• Death Scene and Brutal Realities:
  • The octopus is finally eaten by predators—first brittle stars, then the shark.
    • “They just start pulling on her leg, just ripping her apart, eating her alive. Really. Fucking really?” (33:49, Ronnie)
    • “This is what they do to you. You. You know, they see you out there at your worst, and what do they do? They fucking eat you.” (33:57, Ronnie)
• Craig and the hosts express emotional reactions, with Craig dreaming of Patty and missing her.

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Circle of Life & Closure

• Craig reconnects with his son in the wake of Patty’s loss, teaching him to dive:
  • “He is developing a gentleness from nature because nature is so gentle. Like when that shark destroyed Patty.” (36:13, Jess)
• A new generation:
  • The son discovers a tiny octopus, suggesting hope—“I'm fully convinced it's Patty's daughter.” (36:39, Jess)
  • Montage: baby animals (otters, sharks, cuttlefish) and a flashback to Patty, bringing the circle-of-life theme home.
• Ronnie’s heartfelt send-off:
  • “This was the best fucking thing I’ve ever seen. Love this. I was crying. I'm gonna watch it probably a million times. I think we should make it a musical.” (38:53)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• 04:43 — Jess (as Patty/Broadway diva):
  “My name in the big lights. Because I’m back and I’m going for the Tony.”
• 06:26 — Jess (on crabs/sea Housewives):
  “They're like basically the Bethenny Frankel's of the sea...”
• 12:01 — Jess:
  "This dressing room is for friends and family only. Get out, get out."
• 21:23 — Jess:
  "At what point...you gotta step in here, Craig...Because this is your friend here. Enough. Enough."
• 22:29 — Ronnie:
  “It’s like Molly Ringwald in Pretty in Pink, how she sews her own prom dress. You know, it’s like oh, my God, she's so talented. But this thing does it in two seconds.”
• 23:44 — Jess:
  "...Patty has done the most Patti LuPone thing of all time, which is for some reason, somehow we will never know how she is now on top of the shark, just riding it like a horse, still all in her shells.”
• 25:01 — Jess:
  “…You are ashamed to all of us sharks, and you are banished. Go out to find another kelp forest.”
• 33:57 — Ronnie:
  “They see you out there at your worst, and what do they do? They fucking eat you.”
• 38:53 — Ronnie:
  “This was the best fucking thing I’ve ever seen. Love this. I was crying. I'm gonna watch it probably a million times. I think we should make it a musical. It was just… We should.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Regrowing Arm, Life Parallels — 01:40–05:22
• Researching Craig’s Wife, Octopus’s Social Life — 03:06–04:38
• Crab vs. Octopus Battle — 05:46–10:57
• Brittle Stars “Intrusion” — 11:44–13:12
• Lobster Hunting, Shell Drilling Skills — 13:47–16:33
• Jellyfish and Kelp Forest Descriptions — 17:18–17:46
• Shark Attacks and Patty’s Escapes — 18:09–26:14
• Octopus Motherhood & Death — 29:28–34:57
• Grieving & The Next Generation — 35:11–37:03
• Final Reflections — 38:53–39:22

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Tone & Style

The recap is replete with irreverent, Bravo-infused pop culture analogies, rapid-fire banter, sharp observational humor, and moments of surprising sincerity. The hosts maintain high energy, a sense of whimsy, and a deep affection for the subject matter—even as they mock both the documentary and its central narrator.

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This detailed recap brings you the laughs, the drama, and the heart of Ben and Ronnie’s deep-dive into My Octopus Teacher, Reality TV style.

Transcript

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[Jess]

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[Ronnie]

And you know that's happened in real life. You know that like during anything Goes, like a toe fell off or something. It's like, don't worry, it'll be fixed by Tuesday.

[Jess]

Literally, anything goes.

[Ronnie]

Anything grows. The octopus, fatty, the poem, music.

[Jess]

And then he. And then, of course, Craig has to make it all about himself. He goes. Seeing her with her little nubby tentacle, I realized that I too was getting past difficulties. In a strange way, our lives were mirroring each other. Like, Craig, you did not lose a limb. Okay. While your friend watched. Okay. Like your thing is that like you, you said hi to your wife today for the first time in six months. It's not the same.

[Craig Foster]

It's like my relationship with people, with humans, were changing. My son at this stage, was fairly interested in everything under the water. So I put him down into the water, waited for his shark to bite one of his limbs off, and said, there, now we both know how bad he feels.

[Jess]

I like that he said his relationship with humans was changing. And yet we really saw none of his relationship with humans except for his son swimming. I mean, that was nice. His son was swimming. But like, why don't you show us your wife or family? I mean, assuming he has a wife. Oh, my God. Could you imagine we're saying all this stuff and his wife has like, passed away or something? Take it all back.

[Ronnie]

I hope not. Jeez. Maybe that's why he was so depressed, actually. Okay, what's his name? Let's look it up. Okay.

[Jess]

Is it Craig Foster?

[Ronnie]

Craig.

[Jess]

Craig Foster.

[Ronnie]

Australian retired soccer player.

[Jess]

Octopus. Craig Foster. Octopus.

[Ronnie]

Craig Octopus wife.

[Jess]

We're doing like an emergency. Like, okay, is he married? There's a.

[Ronnie]

There's.

[Jess]

There's an actual article that says from.

[Ronnie]

The cinemaholic, Craig married the pod Mox me.

[Jess]

Okay, where is he from? He's from South Africa. Yes. What does he do? Okay, yes, yes, yes. Where's his wife? I don't see it yet. Where is he now? His wife, Swati. The garage. Garage on. Okay, good. And he. Oh, he lives in a pristine hillside overlooking False Bay. Of course he lives in False Bay.

[Ronnie]

What's False Bay?

[Jess]

I don't know, but that's where he lives.

[Ronnie]

They have. When I looked up her name, there's a little video, and from far away, it's a very small picture of her, but she has a Padma vibe. She's very beautiful. Smella. Okay, now I have to look where False Bay is.

[Craig Foster]

False Bay.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah, there she is.

[Ronnie]

Bay is a body of water in the Atlantic Ocean between the mountainous. Oh, so this was the house that we saw, right?

[Jess]

No, no, you're looking at the wrong Craig Foster. That's not. Oh, wait, no. Craig Foster wife. Swati.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Swati. Oh, my gosh.

[Jess]

Gorgeous. See? Okay, so here's the thing with Craig. Now that we know he has a gorgeous wife, of course he's the guy who's like, good looking, has a gorgeous wife, has a gorgeous house, has everything perfect. And he's like. But something's missing. It's like, craig, look around. You've got everything.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, and she's a famous author, too.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Jess]

I'm so glad she's alive so we can continue.

[Ronnie]

You really scared me. I was like, we're gonna have to re record this. I can't go through the emotions again.

[Jess]

Well, guess what? Day 250. The octopus's confidence is back. She's back, baby. Limited engagement on Broadway. My name and the big lights. Because I'm back and I'm going for the Tony.

[Ronnie]

Finally 180 days later, my arm is regrown, so violins are playing.

[Craig Foster]

And he's like, it's amazing to think this animal is capable of that, withstanding that type of attack and fully recovering.

[Ronnie]

And I'm so happy because I thought this was it for her, you know, I was like, this is over. I was already crying. I was ready to just be done with this whole thing. But she's back. She's got a second chance, baby.

[Jess]

She's got a second wind. And Craig is busy appropriating her pain. When I lost my limb during that shark attack, I didn't think there was another chapter for me. Like, no, it wasn't you, Craig. You did not lose the limb.

[Ronnie]

So she goes back to normal, and she's sinking on a rock.

[Craig Foster]

And he's like, it was a nice, calm, clear day.

[Ronnie]

There's crabs chilling. And she comes around the corner and she sees a crab.

[Jess]

And it's basically Never Soul.

[Ronnie]

From War Paint. It's Patty versus like, I'm not.

[Jess]

She's like, no, no, no, no. I'm the one here. I'm going to win this.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And she's like, the problem, he says.

[Craig Foster]

The problem when you're all crab.

[Ronnie]

Did we see that musical together? Warpaint.

[Jess]

No. You saw it?

[Ronnie]

No.

[Jess]

You just saw it by yourself and told me about it.

[Ronnie]

Oh, so good. I mean, not really, but it was cool to see them. But he's like, the problem.

[Craig Foster]

When you're a crab, you're now being hunted by a liquid animal. She could pull herself through a tiny crack. I know the feeling of being hunted by a liquid animal.

[Ronnie]

I'm like, no, you don't. You don't know the feeling.

[Jess]

And Craig, can you just. Okay, just. Just grab the crab and give it to her. Like, this is. They're spending so much energy. So this crab, this crab thinks it's got it all figured out. I. I kind of felt bad for this crab, mainly because it was about to die, but also, like, I don't know, sometimes I mean, I find crabs to be hilarious because they're. They're like basically the Bethany Frankel's of the sea, right? Like, so what's the matter? What's happening? What's going on? Just hanging out here. Okay, you know what you gotta do? Okay? Just get away from me. Okay? You're a liquid animal. Okay. How about you eat other liquid?

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Jess]

Cause I'm a crab. Okay, let me just. Okay, I'm just gonna. I'm jump off this ledge. Okay? I can't. I literally I can't.

[Ronnie]

And the crab. Now I was wondering, why am I feeling for the octopus? And now I'm never gonna eat an octopus again. But I'm not feeling for the crab. Is it because I think the crab is dumber than the octopus? And so, yeah, the crab is crabby, I guess. But the crab, it's kind of a cute scene, even though you know it's gonna end in death. And I was like, this is sick that I'm thinking this is cute. But anyway, the crab knows that she's coming for it, right? She can't really see it because it's so good at hiding itself and turning into rocks. I mean, the whole time it's changing into different things. It's so cool.

[Jess]

Terrifying for the crab.

[Ronnie]

I know, but the crab just knows that it's there. It senses it, right? So it starts hiding, and then it, you know, it waits, and then it hides, and then it just waits, and then it hides under, like, the C version of Mrs. Roper.

[Jess]

Stanley, is crab under me? Yeah. Hey, Stanley.

[Ronnie]

I finally got crabs. It's like, oh, gross. Like, Mrs. Roper making old, gross sex jokes.

[Jess]

It's this big red sea. Enemy. Is it enemy? Enemy. How do you say it? Enemy. Whatever it is, I don't know.

[Ronnie]

I wrote poison poisonous enemy, but I was like, wow, why would they name that thing an enemy? It's like the most gorgeous pink, you know, frilly dress from P. But, like, moo. Moo.

[Jess]

Yeah, it is. No, but it's spelled, I think A N, E, M, O, N, E. I think it's anemone. And it's, you know, it's like clownfish hang out in them. Like, I want to get me. You'll have to deal with Mrs. Roper first. So the crab is, like, under it. And then. So Patty's like, fine, I'll wait. I can always wait. Okay, this show's not starting without me. So she just waits. And the crab. This is where the crab is. Not very Bethany, because Bethany would never fall for this shit. Maybe now that's me.

[Ronnie]

Smarter for sure.

[Jess]

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's not Bethany. It just. It has a Bethany vibe. But maybe it's. I don't know. What would be a more accurate Bravo star for this? For this crap? Maybe Kristen from, like, a Raquel.

[Ronnie]

It's kind of a Raquel, I guess.

[Jess]

Jellyfish.

[Craig Foster]

I'm gonna hide in a dress.

[Ronnie]

It's like, you're wearing a dress.

[Jess]

No, the crap is Lindsay from Summer House. You do not want to see Me activated. I'm gonna pinch you. Oh, my God. And then, like hides, and it's like I'm literally in like a new hiding space. And this is awesome. But then someone tells her that there's like a cocktail special at like Hampton social or whatever it was. She's like, oh, my God, I gotta leave, Mrs. Robert. I go out and find the cocktail special.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna hide in the shell. Like, that's your body. So it thinks everything's okay. Here's there's a event at Hampton social and comes out and. Dumbass. I mean, God. Dumb, dumb. So dumb.

[Jess]

Crab.

[Ronnie]

You see the close up of the arm and it starts to kind of envelop the crab. And you should be yelling, run, crab, run. But I'm like, I can still eat crabs. They're idiots.

[Jess]

Yeah. Patty's like, give me that. And she tries to grab it. And so then this crab just is like. Then the crab just like skitters away somehow. And then it just like careens off of like a sea cliff. And then it's just like floating. And just like, it's a full on, like, Lindsey, like, do not activate me. Straight to the rose.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And just like floating through the water.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Dropping like a slow motion. Die Hard. It's like, that's it. I'm going off this building. And then it just like drops. But you're like, it's the water. How fast can you drop? You're a crab. And also crabs are there. It's not fair what God did to crabs. I feel like God was like, ha, ha. You're going to get eaten. I'll give you a shell. But you're never. You're never going to walk straight.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

For one thing, you can only see side to side.

[Jess]

Yeah. And like, everyone can get through your shell too. By the way. Your shell is just like a fake defense because, like, everyone gets through crab shells. Like, every, every animal has figured out a way to get through crab shells.

[Ronnie]

Don't worry, your shell is going to be super hard. Unless it's wet.

[Jess]

Enjoy. Looking delicious too, by the way.

[Ronnie]

Oh, gosh. So, yeah, so it drops. And then we see a close up on the crab's eye. Like, oh, fuck. Fuck me. And then the octopus jumps on top of it and sp. Like envelops it, you know, and then takes it back to the rock.

[Jess]

And then Craig, being so like judgy to his friend is like, well, she's not a very clean eater. Like, just let her eat her food. Okay, so then, so she, of course she does have like, food everywhere and, like, scrap is, like, everywhere. So then all these, like, creepy ass. I think they were called brittle stars, they approach out of nowhere. They're like. They look. Those look like aliens. They're like these little black squares, but they have, like, those four arms. They just, like. It seems like they don't have eyes or mouth, whatever they are. They come out of nowhere and they just.

[Ronnie]

Starfish. They're like a starfish in the movie Alien, you know?

[Jess]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

They look. They're black. They're terrifying. And. And she just tips one over. Like, she flings one over on its back. And it really does look like a starfish. But they're just like, the creepiest, scariest version of starfish.

[Jess]

Yeah, they were terrible. I hated them. They just kept coming, and I was like, please stop. And she's just like, you know, she's like, get out. Get out. This dressing room is for friends and family only. Get out, get out.

[Ronnie]

Especially if you're Glenn Close. So she says she's gonna have this.

[Craig Foster]

Problem of brittle stars taking all of her food and not that long in the future. She thought, there's brittle stars coming after her. And then I realized she has this talent of picking them up with her suckers and throwing them out of the den.

[Ronnie]

Now she's the boss. And I was like, yes, girl.

[Jess]

But also, like, she literally has eight arms. Like, what did he expect her to do? Like, she does, like, literally the simplest thing. She takes an arm and bats them away. Of course, they're like. They basically are like. They basically look like Oreos. Oreos with legs. Like, they're not going to have a huge amount of defense.

[Ronnie]

But it is funny how she does it. Like, she suckers one. She suckers one with just, like, one sucker and just flips it on its back. And it's like, hey, wait a minute.

[Jess]

God damn it. And now where are the sharks? Why don't the sharks eat the brittle. The brittle stars? Because, like, something should eat them. I don't want them around.

[Ronnie]

I don't know. They really show you in this that there is, like, the order, you know, the order of the food chain and how everything has something to eat or whatever.

[Jess]

So terrible. I would hate to be like. Like, and I don't want to be in the food chain like, that, you know, like, to think that, like, your entire life is basically like, like, am I going to be eaten by something else today? Like, that's a terrible way to live.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, I guess. I think humans are probably gonna end up getting eaten one Day, like, aliens are gonna come down and be like, oh, Ronnie looks delicious. He's been seasoned with cheese, tomato sauce, and carbs for 40 years. Get him?

[Jess]

Pretty much. So. So now Patty decides now that she's, like, all cocky because she got a crab. Now she wants to go for a lobster. And she's, like, not very good catching lobsters. She keeps on trying to do crab techniques on lobsters, but, you know, those are two different kind of, you know, beasts. And so she keeps on, like, whiffing. She keeps on sort of, like, trying to do, like, almost like, a big, like, surprise, I'm hugging you. But, like, the lobster's like, I'm out of here. Like, every single time.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She, like, tries to do the embrace thing.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Where she's, like, sneaking up. But the lobster and lobsters aren't that bright either. Like, they swim backwards. I never knew that, did you?

[Jess]

Well, I read. I recently read a book called the Secret Life of Lobsters. So I actually know way more about lobsters than I ever thought I would. Like, did you know that they pee out of their eyeballs? How about that?

[Ronnie]

Oh, like Michael from Real Hot Sauce of Potomac.

[Jess]

Yeah, they. No, they do, like. They do, like, shoot backwards like that. And I used to know, like, if you asked me about two months ago, I could give you every single fact about a lobster, but now. Now they've already started to fade.

[Ronnie]

It's like an enemy's coming, and they're depressing. Reverse, you know, and you just. Movies where they're going down the freeway all in reverse, speeding away. Also, they're not the cutest animals, which I don't know if that makes you feel better or not.

[Jess]

Well. Well, that. That lobster was, like. That was a. Like a spiny lobster, so it didn't have the big claws. When you have the big claws, they become a lot cuter.

[Ronnie]

Oh, okay.

[Jess]

You know, when it's just, like, body and. And tail, it's kind of. They look a little ridiculous.

[Ronnie]

So then he starts noticing all the animals that she's capturing, and he's like, well, how is she killing them and eating them? You know, because, like, let's face it, she's not the most graceful. Like, she's got eight arms. So then he says that at the base of all of her arms, there's a drill, and it can drill through the shell, and it drops poison into the shells to see how they react. So she has to test different ways to get into that shell and find just the right spot to drop the poison into, because it'll only relax if it's right in the apex of the shell.

[Craig Foster]

And he's like, the geometry that she does to drill the precise spot to get her food.

[Jess]

It's very high level, but still pretty much a lower primate. Let's, let's, let's, let's not cross that line, Right?

[Craig Foster]

She will never have the right to vote, that much I can tell you.

[Ronnie]

But great with geometry.

[Jess]

Yeah. He's like, she's teaching me so much. And we just see him with shells. He's like learning about shells. He's like saying, oh, there's a hole in that shell. Okay. I've learned, like, Wikipedia could do the same thing.

[Ronnie]

And we also pretty badass. So, like, I never.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, of course, I don't know that much, so I'm impressed by everything, but I was like, oh, I guess you do see those shells at the ocean that have a little hole drilled in there? Like, how did that happen? Who drilled a hole in it?

[Jess]

Well, was that hole from the drill or is that. Was that hole. She drilled that hole, right?

[Ronnie]

She drilled it. Yeah. She drills it and then she drops poison in and then the animal opens up and comes out of the shell so she can eat, right?

[Jess]

Yeah, exactly. Also, I like that we saw. There was like a cutaway shot too. It looked like a sea slug that was wearing a yarmulke. And I was like, I love that my people are being represented in the kelp forests. It's like a slug with a yarmulke. Literally, a slug with a yarmulke.

[Ronnie]

So on his board he's like, now.

[Craig Foster]

I know how the helmet shell is connected to the octopus, and I know how all these lines and dots are.

[Ronnie]

Connecting with all the animals of the ocean. And then we see some more amazing footage with the unsung hero of this film, the jellyfish.

[Jess]

I mean, jellyfish is not getting any credit. Jellyfish are just floating around looking beautiful.

[Ronnie]

They are just stunningly gorgeous. Okay, so like the forest mind, I.

[Craig Foster]

Could feel it, that big creature. It was a thousand times more awake and intelligent. This giant underwater brain developing for millions of years, keeping everything in balance. And everything was perfect in the forest.

[Ronnie]

And then horror music. Of course.

[Jess]

It's a shark, by the way. Everything was imbalanced until you showed up, Craig. Let's not forget you're the one who was the outsider here with your camera.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Balance tipper.

[Craig Foster]

It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

[Jess]

So here comes the sharks. Okay, so scary ass Sharks. I don't like it. The shark looks bigger than it ever has. It's just so big. And so now there's, like, this really harrowing shark sequence that really stressed me out the entire time. I'm not gonna lie. I was very stressed during all this.

[Ronnie]

It was really, really stressful because you kind of know it's coming, right? And he looks just so sad. I mean, he's about to jump off the rock he lives on. He's so depressed, and he's blinking back tears the whole time. So he swims down, and there's horn music, and he's like, I have this.

[Craig Foster]

Bird in my memory of this shark just suddenly approaching. She gets still and tried to hide. And he just saw the shark swimming on the periphery, picking up a scent. And I thought, oh, no, this nightmare is happening all over again.

[Jess]

And then, like, a chase begins. So now it's like the. The shark is chasing the octopus and everything. And then, like, she's like. She just, like, finds some kelp, and she's, like, latches onto it, and she's like, I'm getting back into my fur. Because she, like, whenever she gets finds, like, a leaf, she just gets so glamorous. And so she rolls herself up and she hides. And the shark is, like. She's, like, looking out from the kelp, like, is he there? Is he there? Are the critics here still? Is that so? So the shark is, like, swimming around, smelling her and, like, biting off pieces of kelp really aggressively. I was like, that's not cool. That was like. Like, can you just, like, eat a little more politely? Like, with your violent bites of help?

[Ronnie]

No reason not to have manners.

[Jess]

Yeah, seriously.

[Ronnie]

So it's dumb, you know, and it's only going off smell. So, yes, it's snapping at all the kelp. And this guy also, again, has balls of steel following this, because it's like, he's right there the whole time. I mean, he gets such amazing footage, and he holds his breath for such a long time.

[Jess]

I know, but I'm also like, she's probably like, yo, could you, like, get away from me? I'm trying to hide. Like, this camera right here, like, this is pretty much tipping off the shark where I am. Cause you're just like, go, get out of my kelp.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, true. But she also hides. And so it's like, there's so many rocks, girl, and you're hiding. Like, it's like, Patty the po. Okay, Patty, someone's coming. She's like, all right, I'll be a show Girl. Well, like, that's not helping. All right, I'll be a tap dancing showgirl. How about this, boy?

[Jess]

No. Go to your escape. No. Go to your panic room. All right, give me a fur and a boa and a top hat. We're gonna do this the proper way. No, just get to your panic room.

[Ronnie]

She's doing like Busby Berkeley down there. So she shoots. She finally the shark is gonna get her, right? Cause she's in this fabulous outfit. So she shoots out of the outfit and blows ink out. And then she is running so hard, she's like, fuck it, I'm going to where the guy came from. So she climbs out of the water onto a rock. And he follows her right up onto the rock and he's like.

[Craig Foster]

I'm amazed. I almost can't believe my eyes. But then the problem is, of course.

[Ronnie]

She'S got to go back. And so. Oh, God, this is heart wrenching. So she jumps back in and the shark picks up her scent again. And then another crazy chase is on. She runs like hell. And then she sinks back into her to a rock. And the shark keeps coming and coming at her and coming at her.

[Jess]

Yeah. And at this point, again, I'm like, Craig, at what point are you like, you've already, like, you gotta step in here, Craig. I mean, you already gave her a muscle, so you've already crossed the line. So it's fine. Just. Just get rid of that shark. Because this is your friend here. And this is. This is going on way too long. It's over. Enough. Enough.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's too much, dude. So then he's like. And then. Oh. So then she goes, go ahead. What are you saying?

[Jess]

No, I'm just laughing because I know where this is heading. And basically she. She finds a bunch of shells. She has like a moment of freedom, so she finds a bunch of shells and she wraps herself up in the shells. Look, just like before. And Craig has like the most obvious realization and he's like. And that's when I realized when she surrounded herself with shells, she was doing it to protect herself. I'm like, yeah. Do you know what shells are for? They're not only for accessories.

[Ronnie]

I know, but she does it so fabulously. It's so cool because she's got like thousands of suckers on her and she just grabs individual shelves from all over and puts together this amazing outfit. I mean, she just.

[Jess]

Amazing.

[Ronnie]

Gorgeous. It's like Molly Ringwald in Pretty in Pink, how she sews her own prom dress. You know, it's like oh, my God, she's so talented. But this thing does it in two seconds.

[Jess]

I love the pockets. I love the silhouette. I love it. Nina Garcia is just the only thing.

[Ronnie]

I don't like about this outfit is the death. So. So, yeah, she's like crazy little piece of art, you know, this, like, beautiful shell ball. The shell bowling ball. And the shark does. The shark doesn't notice her at first, but then obviously he smells probably the Old Spice covering her, and it comes and it grabs her. And then. I'm losing my mind at this point.

[Jess]

Yeah, it is like. Because so Patty, like, Patty is a ball of shells. And the octopus has her in his mouth and it's just like, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking. Just trying to, like, get her to relent. And the shark is doing whatever he can. And then of course, Craig's like, but I have to breathe. So he goes up and he takes a breath. And then when he comes back down again, Patty has done the most Patti LuPone thing of all time, which is for some reason, somehow we will never know how she is now on top of the shark, just riding it like a horse, still all in her shells.

[Ronnie]

She's fucking amazing. This trick. Okay, I guess she reached up somehow and stuck herself onto his back and pulled herself up there and confused the hell out of him because he can't move to catch her back there. And so it's like this beautiful little jeweled shell bowling ball riding a shark.

[Jess]

It's like this weird thing of like, wait, what? There's an octopus riding a shark. And she's just like, here I am, boys. I told you, anything goes. Oh, my God. And then so the shark is like, This is when Jill Zarin gets fired off the Housewives. He's just like.

[Ronnie]

Sorry, Jill Zarin, the audience just thought you were too negative this time.

[Jess]

Sorry, You're a shark. And then you end up with an octopus on your back. It just doesn't work with your brand. We're going to have to demote you.

[Ronnie]

So she's swimming and the shark doesn't know how to get her. And he goes. The shark had just been completely outwitted. And then the shark just swim so dumbly. I mean, you just. It's like, so dumb. They justly. Culkin again. You know, it's like they had him cornered and they firebombed the wrong house or whatever. This shark.

[Jess]

I hope that this shark was actually just, like, banished from that. That, like, weird shark sex cave because, like, they probably were all watching, like, seriously, like, this really, like, this, like, do you see yourself? You have the. It's on your back. It's on your back. You are ashamed to all of us sharks, and you are banished. Go out to find another kelp forest.

[Ronnie]

Well, maybe that's why they were biting him in the beginning, you know, because all of the stuff starts to circle back. And in the beginning, we saw the sharks fighting with each other, and maybe they were just like, you idiots. You either get an octopus or you're out of this family. And that's been his arc the entire time.

[Jess]

Like, I told you to get a job. We told you, get a job, earn your own money, and, like, make, like, make a decent name for yourself. And what are you doing? You're riding around with an octopus on your back.

[Ronnie]

So she finally gets off of him because he's so dumb. Like, she sees a rock, and she pushes herself off of him and slinks into this rock. And Craig is just so impressed. Everyone's impressed. I'm, like, cheering in my house. And then they do a close. He does a close up on her face, and it's so awesome. Like, she's just peeking out from this rock, and she squints her eyes like. Yes. With the wrong octopus.

[Jess]

Yeah. Not only did I win, but I humiliated you, you stupid shark.

[Ronnie]

That was on film, moron.

[Jess]

You'll always have to live with that. I don't know what's gonna happen with me going forward, but you will always have to live with that. So.

[Craig Foster]

So.

[Jess]

So he starts saying that he suspected he was around for about 80% of her life, which, you know, you now know, like, o. Things are wrapping up here. And then we have this. It's like.

[Ronnie]

It's.

[Jess]

There's a school of fish that have come by, and there's all these fish on the line, and Patty just has all her arms up, and she's just, like, slapping at the fish, like, hello. Hello. Oh, I love when all my fans come to see me. Hello. Who wants an autograph? I'm very approachable, despite what the articles say about me.

[Ronnie]

Look at me. I'm heavy here.

[Jess]

So here's my arm. Here's an arm. Here's an arm.

[Ronnie]

I'm not getting in that limo until everybody has a signature on a ticket pass over the playbill.

[Jess]

Honey.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She's signing all these, and the fish are kind of. It looks like the fish are playing with her because they keep coming over in their school and then, like, sitting right above her, and then she snatches at all of them, and then they run. But then they come right back. And then she.

[Jess]

She chases them off. I think the fish are dumb. I think the fish just have no idea what's going on. They're like, oh, shit, we gotta get out of here. Wait a second. What if we go back there though? She's like, oh, the dumbfish are back. I love playing these idiots.

[Craig Foster]

We were getting swatted at, but now we're not getting swatted at. Maybe if we go back to the place that we got swatted at, we won't get swatted at anymore.

[Jess]

Maybe next time. Won't get swatted at.

[Ronnie]

Get out of here. Patty.

[Jess]

This is. Get out of here.

[Ronnie]

Liza. This is my.

[Jess]

This is my kelp far. There's only room for one diva in this place. Swat, swat, swat.

[Ronnie]

So I thought she was playing with the. It looks totally like a pet. Like animals playing together. Well, I mean, you know, it looks like dogs playing with whatever fish. I can't make a comparison really. He's like, well, I was like, hold on.

[Craig Foster]

When she hunts, she's strategic and focused. This behavior doesn't feel predatory.

[Ronnie]

She's playing with them.

[Jess]

Yeah. And. And she's like this antisocial animal playing with fish. And then, and then when she's done playing, she sees Craig and she like swims up to him and then cuddles up on his body. And it's like, just so cute. She's like my friend who doesn't save me around sharks. But still, like, I've just come to accept that about him and you can't change people. And I've accepted him for who he is and I really like him. He's a terrible protector, but he's got soft skin, so I'm going to cuddle on him. So they cuddle and then he goes. And that was the last time we had physical contact. I was like, no, I know.

[Ronnie]

And then he's about to cry. And then day 324, a storm's a comin. And the waters are all, you know, rough and there's sentiment everywhere or sediment everywhere. And he goes down and horror movie boom. There's another big octopus right next to her. 20th. It's very rare to see two octopus close together.

[Craig Foster]

Oh my God.

[Jess]

Where the hell did this guy come from?

[Ronnie]

What's going on?

[Jess]

I hate to break it to you, Craig, but certain things happen when, when, when a man octopus and a lady octopus have feelings for each other.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but octopus are such men, you know, it's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come here, lay and get out of here. Have fun raising off 5 million children. I know. He lays next to her and he's like, all right, they're boning, I guess. And one of them has their octopus arm sticking straight up, which was hilarious. Like a boner. And I don't know if it was, like, touching the camera or what it was, but did you notice that?

[Jess]

I did. At that point, I was like, now Craig knows what it's like to be a gay man, okay? Because when your straight friends have babies and then you never see them again, okay, that's what. You just got the experience. Congratulations.

[Ronnie]

Last time she had dinner with me.

[Jess]

The last time we had fun before she had a baby, Then she got a baby. This is what it is, people. I'm just breaking the news to you. You may not like it, but this is the truth.

[Craig Foster]

By this stage, I knew quite well the stages of an octopus's life. So while I was excited to see the mating, I mean, who wouldn't be? Bona town? There was a dread in the bottom of my stomach. She wasn't coming out of that den. There was no more feeding, no more game night, no more films at the Arclight.

[Jess]

How did. I have a question, though. Where did. How did Tony Shalhoub find her? Because, like, it seemed like she was the only octopus in town. He must have just been like. It must be something like when the guy is ready to do it, he just starts, like, trolling, you know, kelp forest or something like that.

[Ronnie]

No, it was those idiot gossipy fish that were like, what? When you slide. Get off the street, slut. Huh? Look at the lady slut walking down the street like a lady.

[Jess]

This lady slapping at us.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. They're like, hey, octopus stud, you looking for that slut? She's probably under that rock over there looking like a bowling ball or something.

[Jess]

Stupid slut hanging out with humans. Why don't you show what a real octopus is like?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. They were like, the busy body townspeople.

[Jess]

They have, like. They have, like, bandanas in their hair. Chewing gum.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Hear about that slut down by the corner campfire? She's hanging out with a human. Yeah. Why don't you be a real octopus and show what a real octopus does? How about that, huh?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Hide your husbands, ladies. It's like Dino moth. Yeah, all of them. So he's like, I just keep going back every day to check.

[Craig Foster]

And she's oxygenating her eggs with her siphon. She's slowing her death and timing her death for the hatching of those eggs. And it struck home so hard of me. Here's an invertebrate, a mollusk, sacrificing her life for her young. Reminds me so much of myself.

[Jess]

Like how I almost sacrificed my life, really, only for myself, actually. Yeah, just for myself, actually, it's just for myself. I have an entire family, and I could have died many, many times out here just for the sake of an octopus and left them in the lurch. But it did remind me of me in some sort of way.

[Ronnie]

So then the eggs hatch and they're these tiny, invisible. Like they're see through little tiny things and they go into the water column.

[Jess]

She's not eating. She's not eating at all, by the way.

[Ronnie]

Right? She's like Jessica Tandy, end of cocoon. Like, totally full on.

[Jess]

And so they. They all hatch. She's spent all her energy doing this again. Like, mark, where's your muscle now? Like, maybe she wants to eat something because, like, she can't afford to leave and because it'd be vulnerable. So she just has to, like, chill there and not feed and not hunt. And it's like, bring her a muscle. Maybe she wants to be there for her kids. Okay.

[Ronnie]

No, it's time to die. It's just how it works out. So she's starting to die, basically. And then, of course, the asshole townspeople come out and just start eating her.

[Jess]

Yeah, because she sort of like. She sort of like tumbles out of the den. She's so weak. She, like, the water, I think, just sort of like washes her out of the den. So now she's just like out there on the sidewalk, like, in her bathrobe with, like, hey, I used to be on Broadway, you know.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She's all white and she's dying. It's so sad. So of course I'm crying. You know, I'm crying at this part. And then these fucking starfish things.

[Craig Foster]

He's.

[Jess]

Get away from her. Give her some privacy.

[Ronnie]

Monsters. They just start pulling on her leg, just ripping her apart, eating her alive. Really. Fucking really?

[Jess]

I can't stand them.

[Ronnie]

I think that's why people are like, why do you want to live in the middle of nowhere? Don't you want to live in a community? No. This is why. This is what they do to you. You. You know, they see you out there at your worst, and what do they do? They fucking eat you.

[Jess]

Yeah, they fucking eat you. Stupid brittle stars. And then, of course, I'm surprised it took this long. This shows how stupid those pajama sharks are. Because she's just laying out there vulnerable for like two days. And then finally a shark just comes and is like, all right, I'm taking this and just comes and eats her. I was actually almost happy at that point because I was like, can we put her out of her misery? Brittle stars and those random ass like dynam fish just like get, get her out of there. So the, the Jill's Aaron just comes in one soup, just eat. Just takes it in her mouth and just goes. I don't know why it took two, two days for that shark to find literally free food. Like a big old piece of.

[Ronnie]

Dumbest shark ever. Dumbest chick at home. It was like, I finally did it. Congrats, Theodore. You got a dead one.

[Jess]

Yeah. You found your hat. Congratulations.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. God, it was, it was sad.

[Jess]

So Craig starts to choke up and this is when I started. I started to choke up. Now also, I was like, damn it. I can't believe I'm joking. But he's like looking out and he's like, he's like, sometimes I float above her den. I miss her. I was like, I miss her too.

[Ronnie]

Oh my God. And he's like. I mean, in some way it was.

[Craig Foster]

A relief because the intensity of going every day, tracking her, trying to capture footage, it was tough in a way. I just, I slept. I dreamt this animal the other night. I was in a deep sleep and I woke myself up because apparently I was singing.

[Jess]

His wife is like, yeah. Was that tough for you, going to check that octopus every day? Yeah. You know what? I was doing everything in the house right. While you were gone. Every single thing. Yeah, that was tough for me too.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, this was so sad. But then we see two sets of feet now walking along the beach and he's with his son. And his son is now older. His son has grown up a lot.

[Jess]

Yeah, like a lot in just like a year.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. He's teaching his son how to do it. And his son is like very natural in the freezing ass water. And I'm sure the mother loves that too. Like, I'm taking my. I'm taking our son into freezing water.

[Craig Foster]

Kiss your mother.

[Ronnie]

It might be the last time.

[Jess]

He is developing a gentleness from nature because nature is so gentle. Like when that shark destroyed Patty.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Don't worry. If he doesn't make it, I'll. I'll ask the brittle fish to eat him.

[Jess]

So then the son finds like this tiny little octopus, a little baby octopus. And he's starting to imagine that it might be one of her young because it's like around the size that it should be and it's in the area. I mean, I'm fully convinced it's. It's Patty's daughter. Like.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's like a little baby Patty.

[Jess]

A little baby Patty. And you know, it's like exciting. And now there's just like swimming and there's like seals. There's like seals hanging around, you know, which is fun. There's like a sea otter, I think at one point.

[Ronnie]

So cute. And then we see all the babies of the forest because I guess they're showing us the circle, the circle of life or the cycle of life that.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You know, things go. They leave the. They lead these really violent, scary lives where they're always protecting themselves from each other basically. But then they're always being. Constantly being reborn, you know. And so they show like a little baby otter and even a little baby shark we get to see born.

[Jess]

There's like a cuttlefish. There was like. He was like. He was like chilling with a cuttlefish, which is like not the same as an octopus for sure, but I guess it's. It's like, okay, which one was that?

[Ronnie]

Was that the one that's half fish and half octopus where it has like fingery. That was a funny one. I like that one.

[Jess]

It's like, okay, like I appreciate you cuttlefish, but you're like, you're not quite a squid. You're not quite an octopus. You're just. You're not the same. I just like, it's just.

[Ronnie]

I'm sorry, I don't want to feel that's. I was like, who makes. They probably all make fun of the cuddlefish because it's such a dumb looking little thing. But he's being nice to it. And then it's really cute because he's actually friends with the fish. Like the fish come up to him and then.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

He's holding one in his hands in the water and petting it.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Oh, so cute. And I can accept it again now and then.

[Jess]

Yeah. And then like we see a flashback of Patty like touching him on his mask, which is so sweet. Patty, you know, she's so inquisitive. And he realizes that like, you know, that you're. You're part of this space. You're not a visitor, you're part of this space. I am amphibious. And he, he has now like actually developed a group of people who dive with him and like chicken on the kelp forest and you know, like.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, they all go on a group and into the water and that one of the last shots is a shot of Patty when she's like had a long day of play with her friend and she's back in her little nest and it does a close up on her eyes like squinting happily and then closing like a little doggy taking a nap. I mean.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

This was the best fucking thing I've ever seen. Love this. I was crying. I'm gonna watch it probably a million times. I think we should make it a musical. It was just. We should.

[Jess]

Well, it was great. And this bonus is actually longer than the movie itself.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Jess]

But there was a lot to take in and a lot to discuss. This was really, it turns out that we can do. It was actually really not that hard to recap this as a nature documentary.

[Ronnie]

It was actually pretty cool. This is fucking beautiful to watch. It was really great to talk about. It was longer than the film. I guess that's normal for us. But thank you for being a part of this two parter everybody. Thanks for listening to us. And we will be back next week with God knows what else. But it better not involve something adorable dying because I'm not going to make it for much longer if we have to do that.

[Jess]

Seriously. Seriously. Thanks everyone. Have a great day.

[Ronnie]

Bye.

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