#3141 RHOP S10E13 Part 1: Malice in Wanderland

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens – Ep. #3141: RHOP S10E13 Part 1: Malice in Wanderland

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: January 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In the first part of their recap for The Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode 13 ("Altitude with Attitude"), Ben and Ronnie indulge in their signature snark, recapping not only the show’s plot but the ever-evolving drama among cast members. They open with comic banter about LA happenings, Bravo world updates, and a hilarious rant about inflation and cream cheese, before plunging into Potomac’s latest. Their tone is irreverent, warm, and mercilessly witty, relishing the foibles and follies of Bravo-lebrities and their own lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Podcast Updates & Banter (00:21–08:43)

• Network Move: The podcast is moving from Wondery back to Acast; the hosts explain technical transitions, reassure listeners, and promote Patreon as the new go-to hub for ad-free and bonus content.
• LA Moments: Both hosts riff on helicopter chases, neighborhood stabbings, and car thefts ("People are stealing Kias now. It's a sensible steal." – Ronnie, 05:54).
• Inflation Rants: They vent about skyrocketing grocery prices (e.g., $7 apples, $10 cream cheese) and joke about dry bagels at home.
  • "Remember the days when we complained about eggs? It's the price of everything now. It's crazy." – Ben (07:24)
• Signature humor: The opening section is filled with their trademark banter, setting a relaxed, comedic tone.

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RHOP Episode Recap: Major Storylines

Angel’s Awkwardness & The Circle of Bad Housewives (08:44–10:11)

• Angel's Newfound Entertainment:
  • Ben: “She's so bad at it, that I get excited to see her scenes just to see how bad she will do.”
  • Ronnie: “Angel’s just so bad at this. It's hilarious watching the old guard eat her up.”
• Room Assignments: The hosts laugh over Angel putting Ashley and Giselle in bad rooms—delighting in "watching them get their comeuppance."

Side Plots & Silliness: Ambidextrous Arabella & Sad Billboards (10:11–15:34)

• Wendy's Commencement Speech: Delivered with obligatory gravitas and a side of snark.
• Ambidexterity Skepticism: Stacey's daughter, Arabella, claims she’s ambidextrous. Ronnie doubts her motives, equating it to childhood lies for attention.
  • “I don't believe she's ambidextrous. I think she's just trying to be cool on TV.” – Ronnie (11:19)
• Kieran's Billboard Moment:
  • Kieran unveils her own billboard, reacting as if she won an Oscar.
  • Ronnie: “It’s not like they’re awarding billboards. You bought a billboard… congratulations.” (13:37)
  • Ben: “You’re already on TV, you’re already on a much larger platform.” (15:25)

Tia’s Family Pilgrimage & Banister Rants (15:35–25:33)

• Visiting Her Childhood Home: Tia returns, movingly, to her late father’s home—eliciting both sympathy and eye-rolling.
  • Ronnie: “I want to live in my house without you being like, ‘This is the living room my dead dad used to watch golf in. I shouldn't have to care about your dead dad, bro.’” (16:46)
• Home Design Tangent: The hosts are obsessed with the home's outdated banister.
  • Ben: “I think we need a banister rehab… it was a holdover from like 1983.” (18:04)
  • Ronnie: “Fix the banisters!” (20:19)
• Key Quote:
  • “I'm still mad at the dad. Is that fair? It's not even my dad, and I'm still mad at the dad.” – Ronnie (22:01)
• Emotional Moments Mocked: Ben and Ronnie oscillate between sarcastic detachment and genuine curiosity about Tia's family history and guilt over sibling relationships.

Lunch with the Potomac Ladies (25:34–33:36)

• Ridiculous Outfits and Shady Humor: Ronnie rips on the women for their over-the-top lunch attire.
  • “It’s a competition to see who can dress stupider for lunch.” – Ronnie (25:54)
• Wendy’s Mom Drama: Briefly addressed but quickly sidestepped by the hosts.
• Production of Potomac Events: Rec centers, inexplicable staircases, and the hosts’ joy about these housewifey details.
• Giselle's Shadiness Tactics: Ben breaks down Giselle’s style—she tests newbies with shade and rewards those who play along, but withdraws from those who can’t keep up, i.e., Angel.
  • Ben: “She’s trying to throw some shade that I can't believe Tima wouldn't want to hang out with us… Clearly Angel's trigger is being called a catfish or inauthentic or duplicitous.” (31:53)

Angel’s Colorado Retreat & Living Situation Drama (33:37–36:45)

• Angel Retreats to Colorado: Angel claims Colorado is her "safe, sacred space"—the hosts mock her for taking credit for building an entire state.
  • “You built Colorado? That's like a huge credit. Where’s your billboard?” – Ronnie (34:31)
• The Great Eviction Debate: Angel fiercely denies being evicted, but her explanation unravels under Ben and Ronnie’s analysis.
  • “She just doesn't want to admit they did something stupid so it's just… ‘the lease ended before we knew it was going to end.’” – Ben (36:00)
  • “The proof is in the pudding. They can kiss my ass with that eviction comment.” – Angel (35:14, paraphrased by Ben & Ronnie)

Ashley’s “6-to-60” Party & The Return of Uncle Lump (36:46–41:31)

• Party Premise: Ashley throws a simultaneous birthday for a 6-year-old and a 60-year-old (Uncle Lump).
  • “Guess who this is meaningful for? Neither of those people.” – Ben (37:13)
• Uncle Lump’s Wisdom Ignored: He dispenses sage advice that the family perpetually ignores.
  • “He gives good advice every single year and no one pays attention to him.” – Ben (37:44)
• Sheila’s Partner’s Rehab: Ashley’s mom gives updates on her longtime partner finally entering rehab, leading to a flashback of this saga stretching back nearly 8 years.

Monique’s Book Launch—“Love Letters from Versions of Myself” (41:32–51:08)

• Book Event Set-Up: Monique is excited for her new memoir about growth and healing; the hosts aren’t buying the “reinvention” talk.
  • “Writing love letters to yourself is weird, just masturbate like everyone else.” – Ronnie (41:50)
  • “Stop acting like you’re a totally different person.” – Ronnie (41:52)
• Angel’s Writer Credentials Scrutiny:
  • Angel tells Monique, “As a writer, I know how hard it is to stay dedicated and keep going with page after page of your book.”
  • The hosts dive into a Google and Amazon investigation of Angel’s alleged writing career, with much good-natured mockery and eventually the discovery she has written professionally (journalism, not books).

Quotes & Notable Moments:

• “As a writer, I know how hard it is to resist putting in a comma everywhere, but…” – Ben (49:13)
• “She lists her favorite song as Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s Requiem in D minor. So there you go. Don’t argue.” – Ronnie (51:08)

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:21–04:51: Podcast transition and LA personal stories
• 06:13–08:43: Inflation and cream cheese outrage
• 08:44–10:11: Angel’s so-bad-it’s-good Housewives performance
• 11:19–12:52: Ambidextrous Arabella and school skipping stories
• 13:14–15:36: Kieran’s disappointing billboard moment
• 16:02–25:33: Tia’s emotional house revisiting and the banister tangent
• 25:54–33:36: Potomac ladies’ lunch, outfits, and group shadiness
• 33:37–36:45: Angel’s Colorado retreat and questionable eviction denial
• 36:46–41:31: Ashley’s party, Uncle Lump’s ignored wisdom, and family rehab updates
• 41:32–51:08: Monique’s awkward book launch, “versions of myself,” and Angel’s writer claims
• 51:08–51:36: Wrap-up and transition to part two

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Episode Tone & Style

• Language: Candid, sarcastic, irreverent
• Dynamics: Rapid-fire banter, affectionate ribbing, observational humor, and Bravo expertise
• Memorable Running Gags: Outdated banisters; Angel's accidental comedy; “Evicted” cookbook; endless “versions” of oneself; Uncle Lump's thankless wisdom

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Final Thoughts

Ben & Ronnie deliver another riotous, detail-packed recap of RHOP, deftly balancing heavy storylines with infectious humor. They mock housewife antics (“You built Colorado?”), dissect production quirks (banisters, rec centers), and apply their signature perspective to every facet of the episode—and each other's lives. Even for listeners who missed the show, their commentary provides a surprisingly thorough (albeit irreverent) account of the action, the real drama among the women, and the ongoing evolution of the Bravo universe.

Tune in for Part 2 for more Potomac shade, comedy, and deep dives into the RHOP madness!

Transcript

[Ben]

Who cares what happens when there's so much what happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens.

[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to watch what crappens 2026 edition. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, Ronnie.

[Ben]

How's it going?

[Ronnie]

Good, how are you? Happy New Year.

[Ben]

Happy New Year. It's a, it's a brand new new year here in Los Angeles. You know what? Even the entire world too. It's shocking. The new year happened over across the entire world. And I am so excited to dive into 2026 with Irani. And there's currently a car chase happening outside my place. The helicopters are overhead. It's an exciting time here in Los Angeles. It's a great way to kick off.

[Ronnie]

Someone stole a Kia. You know, there's a black stealing k still.

[Ben]

God, Kias are so hot right now. Yeah, there's. It literally is a black Kia that is being chased around the streets of Los Angeles right now.

[Ronnie]

Burglars love Kias. Guys, it's a fish. Yeah, there was a lot of helicopters above my house last night too, because somebody got stabbed down the street. So, you know, we're keeping it classy. First stabbing on the street in 2026. That was okay.

[Ben]

There's a little stabbing. I'm like, I was like, I'm like casually also watching this car chase. I'm. I've got to close this window. But it's. Imagine I'm like, God, it's. It's amazing. There's a black Kia that's being. It's in. Someone stole a black Kia. And look, there's even some blue merchandise in the back. There's a sticker that says watch our crap ends. And oh, there's a Dartmouth College. I was like, oh, that's. Oh, that's my Kia.

[Ronnie]

I get my rocks off with aina sticker on the back. Well, welcome to the show, everybody. 2026. We're very excited. You know, we did miss some stuff on Bravo, but we will be catching up as much as we can this week. It's an insane week here. I mean, to have a break was so nice, but to come back to this shitstorm of work is crazy. There's so many shows on Bravo. Potomac, Married to Medicine, Below Deck. Okay, I'm already.

[Ben]

I already.

[Ronnie]

Salt Lake.

[Ben]

Salt Lake.

[Ronnie]

Southern Charm. Two Persian Valleys. Real Housewives, Beverly Hills. Vanderpump Rules. The Traitor starts.

[Ben]

So, and we have, we have to assume the Traders will be a three episode premiere like it always is. So we are going to have to meet out this content in a way that keeps us sane. But it will all be. It'll all be covered. Don't you all.

[Ronnie]

It'll all be there. Yeah. At some point. It'll all be there. But thanks for being with us, everybody. We have also changed networks. A lot of you have noticed things on your podcast feed looking wonky or weird. We have left Wondry. We loved Wondery. Thank you, Wondery, for a great time. We actually had into three years. We were with Wondry for, I think, a little bit under three years. Like a month short of three years. And in that time we amassed 106 million downloads, which is insane. We had no idea it was that good. So thank you. We had a great time with you, Wondry. Goodbye. Now we're with Acast and we love Acast too. We were with them a long time ago. So if things are looking weird in your feed, that's why everything will be normalizing. This week. We're also working on getting an ad free feed up on our Patreon. Ad Free will be still available. It will be moving to Patreon starting probably next week or the week after. It's a lot of episodes to transfer over. As you guys know, we're on episode 3000 something, so it's a lot to go, but it will be transferred over. Ad Free will be available. Join Patreon. That's also where you get all your bonus episodes and video content. We do all our recaps on video now. Those are a Patreon. So. Thanks, Patreon.

[Ben]

Thanks, Patreon. I'm actually really excited about this because it's really nice to send people to one place for all the cool stuff. Before we had to send Ad free was at Onedry plus and now there's this over at Patreon and now it's all gonna be in one place. So, yeah, there is a bit of a transition. Thank you for your patience with that. You know, tech stuff. Things always get messed up. You all know when you get a new computer, we know you move things over, like, oh, this is great. I got a new computer and I've got to redownload this and it doesn't. And I have to remember my password. It doesn't happen. What happened to my music library? So, like, we're. We've just. We're changing.

[Ronnie]

Oh, it's even worse. It's even worse. It's like when your mom gets a new computer. Okay. Because we're your mom now. And so we get. We're like, wait a minute.

[Ben]

Your mom gets a new Apple tv. The bane of every child. Your parents dealing with their Apple tv. Oh, yeah.

[Ronnie]

So you know what? We're gonna, we're gonna make it. Everything's gonna be fine.

[Ben]

We're gonna make it, guys. We're gonna make it. Everything's fine.

[Ronnie]

It's gonna be fine. But you know, everything's going great. We have announcements for the crappies coming up. A lot of good stuff. Tonight is Amazon Live and Crappy Hour both. Crappy hour's live at 5:30 Pacific Time. Amazon live is at 4:00pm you can find links to all of that stuff on our bio. The crappy lives are always on patreon and on YouTube for free. And we try and put them on Instagram every time for there for that stuff. And that's enough advertising crap for now. But whoever got that Kia, good luck. Good luck. Good luck getting away. And how amazing that you can have that long of a chase in LA traffic. Hats off.

[Ben]

Yeah. I woke up this morning and the helicopters were going okay. And now I, I think they got them. I just went back to look at it and that the car is no longer on the. Is on the screen. So I think they got them. Okay, well, that's sad. Well, it's also appropriate we should start this episode instead of me staring at a car chase. So I'm going to close that tab officially.

[Ronnie]

I love congratulations on getting your, your car. I love people stealing like a lower budget luxury car as well. People are like, you know what? I'm going to get a nice car. But like sensible. I'm going to get, it's going to be a sensible steal.

[Ben]

It's 2026, okay? People cannot afford to steal above a Kia level car. Okay. Because those repairs on your stolen car are gonna be expensive. Let me tell you something. Prices are out of control. I went to the grocery store. First of all, I went and there was an apple. I, I used. I tried to order something online. I tried to order a grocery online. An apple. An apple. A single apple at the supermarket was $7. Yeah. And then, and then I was walking through the aisles and I was like, you know what? Time to like. I went a little, I went a little nuts. I went a little ham over, over, over the break. Like as in I literally ate like a lot of ham. And I was like, let me start to eat something. Let me like cut down my car footprint. I was like, let me get one of those little boxes of Atkins things like the little nibbles. There's a caramel clusters. Zero sugar. Because it's sugar. Alcohols come eight in a little box. 17. No, 18. 18. For eight little things in individual wrappers in a box. It is insane. So, yeah.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I was on Instacart this morning, and cream cheese was $10. Philadelphia.

[Ben]

This is crazy. Remember the days when we complained about eggs? Like, eggs are nothing. Like eggs. That's.

[Ronnie]

Eggs are still ridiculous.

[Ben]

No, I'm saying. But, like, it was only. It was like, oh, God, the price of eggs. It's the price of everything now. It's crazy. It's crazy. And so. Yeah, so I understand why someone's stealing ikea.

[Ronnie]

Well, our Patreon is staying the same price. So there.

[Ben]

Yes. Inflation hitting our Patreon.

[Ronnie]

Fucking inflation. I can't. Well, we'll just laugh as the world burns, as we always do.

[Ben]

It's less inflation, it's more tariffs. But guess what? No tariffs on our Patreon.

[Ronnie]

There's both. There's both going on. It's. It's shit everywhere. But you know what? When it's shit outside, it's still fun inside, okay? Just come in here and laugh as the world burns down. What. What can you do? Nothing. There's nothing you can do. I'll tell you what you're not going to do. Eat cream cheese at my house. We're having dry bagels here. We're having dry bagels this week, and we're going to laugh the whole fucking time we eat them.

[Ben]

Let's not get crazy, okay? Because, like, if I'm going to be spending some money on tariffs, it will be on the cream cheese. I'm not going to lie. I will. Unfortunately. Got me there. I am. I am busted. I will. I will do. I will pay tariff. Cream cheese. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

All right, well, if anybody expected us to get to the point today, it's not gonna happen, okay? We just had a week off. We're so relaxed, and we don't give a crap about anything. We're not gonna even talk about this show. We are. We are gonna talk about this show.

[Ben]

It's.

[Ronnie]

Real Housewives of Potomac. Season 10 Episode 13 Altitude with attitude this episode, angel finally, you know, tries to lay down some law in, like, a stupid hat, and it doesn't really work, but it's very funny watching her try.

[Ben]

I am so entertained by angel, which is weird because she's, like, one of the least entertaining housewives of all time. She's just like a. She's so bad at it. But it's just. It's the circle. It's the loop around effect. She's so bad at it that I'm like, I get excited to see her scenes to see how bad she will do, if that makes sense. Right?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it does.

[Ben]

So, like, she's such a flop. Like, you know, like, Kieran. Kieran is also really bad at this too. Camera's having a terrible season, but she's not, like, entertaining to me. I'm like, it's just Kieran doing the Kieran thing again. Like, literally standing outside a billboard that's advertising a beer called Apricot Blossom and being. And then, like, watching it flip over to her salon and acting like she won an Oscar. But meanwhile, like, Angel. Angel trying to be like. Like, I'm a bad. Right. She just so is. She's so bad at it. And watching, like, the old guard just. Just eat her up every single episode is hilarious. I mean, it was funny that she put Ashley and Giselle in a shitty room. You know, I don't think anyone's, like, rooting for those two this season. Everyone is. Everyone watch them get their comeuppance. But still, Angel's. Angel's just so bad at this. It's hilarious.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Fun times. So let's catch up with the ladies, guys. Wendy is speaking at a commencement speech for the Washington School for Girls, and she's like, good morning, everyone. I am Pam Olive and Pam Oliver, and it is truly a privilege to be here today. It's not just the end, it's the beginning of my child sentence. Hopefully soon. Let's see. Keep in touch. Keep in touch. So she does that, and then we go to Stacey and Arabella, who's cutting a $30 apple. Yeah, it's a shame.

[Ben]

That was. That was. That was definitely a. That was a tariff apple right there. And Stacey's like, arabella, you have to use your left hand. Why would you use your right hand? Your left handed. You almost chopped her hand off. Arabella, she was like, mother, I'm ambidextrous. I play sports with my right hand and for cutting with knives, and then I only write and draw with my left hand. She's. How did I not know this? Talk about dexterity, talk about utility. Talk about both hands.

[Ronnie]

I think Arabella's faking it.

[Ben]

I think she just. I think she came up with that at the last second. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I don't believe that she's ambidextrous. I think that it's not that she couldn't be, or you need some special superpower. I just think that she's Trying to be cool because she's on tv and I get it. Like I was a kid, I was always trying to come up with things I was really good at or things that I was really bad at. I'm like, I pretended that I couldn't skip. Like when we were learning to skip, I was like, can't do it. Like, that was my thing.

[Ben]

I skip from Milo.

[Ronnie]

All the teachers were so confused. They had a parent teachers conference. They were like, he can't skip. We can't figure it out.

[Ben]

He can't skip. I have to say, in gym class, we would. Like when in first grade we would skip to my Lou. Right? That's this. We'd sing that song, skip to my Lou and skip around the auditorium. I loved that.

[Ronnie]

Song. And skip to it.

[Ben]

That's ridiculous. My Lou, right? Isn't that the song?

[Ronnie]

Like skip, skip to the loot, my darling. Right?

[Ben]

Yeah. And we would go around in a lap. Skipping in a lap.

[Ronnie]

Oh, wow.

[Ben]

And I loved it. That's like the first night I was gay, I was prancing around doing yes, queen, skip to my loop. This is my jam.

[Ronnie]

Skipping to my Lou patch.

[Ben]

I'm skipping it to my Louboutins. But what I was gonna. I don't know. Arabella had that sort of SM that she had a little smirk on her face. Like, stupid mother with her one handed utility. What do they call it? Handedness. What do you call handedness?

[Ronnie]

Either way, single handedness.

[Ben]

Stupid, stupid southpaw mother. But she was so proud after that. Almost as proud as Kierana, who we now see, as I just mentioned. She and her mom and Greg and Angel and. But no hot brother. Hello. How do we have a family scene with no hot brother? Like, who wants to see.

[Ronnie]

Who wants to see a hot brotherless billboard unveiling? That's some. I don't care.

[Ben]

Why is the billboard not your brother in a Speedo just reclining? Why is it not that? But instead we have Greg and Kieran's like, I want to thank you guys for all being here for this special moment. My entire business journey. I've literally always wanted a billboard. So she's really excited she has a billboard, which is cool. I mean, I would be fun if we had a billboard. You know, It'd be also kind of embarrassing.

[Ronnie]

Maybe buy one.

[Ben]

What did you say?

[Ronnie]

Buy one. It's not like they're awarding billboards. You know what I mean? She's acting like she just won something. You bought a billboard? I mean, congratulations. Could you at least buy one? That they painted onto the thing. I mean, it's not the same when it's a ditch. Sorry. I want a hand. I want a hand place. Like, you know how they put the wallpaper up, and you see the guys up there, and it takes them, like, a day to, like, glue it. And then you're, like, gluing over somebody's face. You know, like the. The personal injury attorney's face. It's like you're going over him. That's when it's important.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Like, you flick on your. Your Photoshop picture. Your canva. I know.

[Ben]

That's. That was. What's so funny. She acted like she was getting a billboard in Times Square, like it was sponsored by Unilever or something. And she, like, the NASDAQ building turned into a picture of her face, and it's like. No, it was like the Apricot. The Apricot Brew, whatever it was called. Apricot Blossom Brew that was available at the mall just switched over. And now everyone at the intersection of, like, Route 36, you know, like, Pebbles Pebble Lane, can now see this billboard.

[Ronnie]

But I just want to announce what thank you for. I just won this. Refresh Eyedrops. Because we have won a Google Ad. We now have our own Google Ads. You guys, I'm so proud of you, man. I'm so proud of you.

[Ben]

And Greg, once again, is, like, trying his hardest to have a. A personality and be like, be supportive of this. He's like, yeah, I am proud of you as well. And I see you deserve, like, all. You were working on the late nights, and you deserve all the accolades you get. So I just want to say I went to the drugstore, and here is another empty picture frame. I did take out the picture of the couple that was in there, but I'm not going to put a picture of us in it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So she's really excited, and we're dicks. But, I mean, I guess that's cool to have a billboard.

[Ben]

That's what I'm saying. It is cool to have a billboard. But, like, they really are. It's like, girl, you're on tv. You're already on a much larger platform.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You've been on for three years.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So they're excited. So now Tia and her family are doing that thing where you drive up to an old house that you used to live in. You're like, I lived in this house, and I don't like when people do that. I think it's so annoying. Heather. Heather Dubrow just did it, like, if anybody came to my house and said, I used to live here, I would be like, yeah, I still get your fucking mail. Would it be. Would it kill you to do an address change, isra. Would it?

[Ben]

Yeah. Mm. Well, she is here, and she's arrived at this house, and she's brought her sister and our kids, and one of the kids has, like, a. Has, like, a Capri Sun. I kind of feel like if I'm going to someone's house, I don't know if I'm, like, bringing in beverages also.

[Ronnie]

I don't know why. You don't know what. You don't know what you're gonna get at that house. I don't trust your water.

[Ben]

No, I'm just saying, like, I just. I just feel like I wouldn't bring. Maybe it was offered to the kid. I don't know. Like, I just feel like I don't want to bring in any Capri Suns.

[Ronnie]

So just specifically, I'll just bring my own Tito's. But not a Capri Sun. Yeah.

[Ben]

This. In a stranger's home that I asked to go into. You know, I felt like this is.

[Ronnie]

I don't like when people do this. No one's ever done it to me, but I don't like when they do it on tv. It makes me uncomfortable. Like, I want to be able to live in my house without you being like, oh, my God, this is the living room my dead dad used to watch golf in. Like, I don't want to have to think about your dead fucking dad, bro. Like, I'm trying to watch. Like, he did. Rivalry. Like, I don't care about your dead dad. I shouldn't have to care about your dead dad. I have my own parents having issues. You know what I mean? Like, don't leave that on me. But the good thing was they got the karma of the overly saccharine, sweet white lady as the host, and I. I left that for them.

[Ben]

Yeah, but who's also slightly passive aggressive, because how many more times could you say, well, next time, ring the doorbell. If you see a. Ring the doorbell. Why'd you ring the doorbell? Like a good person would ring the doorbell.

[Ronnie]

We are so honored to have you here. Please, whenever you pass, come by. Come by for some wine. Shiny. No, look what you brought. Look what you brought. And now that this woman has your number and she's going to use it, too, this woman is. She's going to be sending your. Your daughter cartons of Capri Suns because she saw it one time.

[Ben]

I hope you like Jonathan Livingston Siegel, because she's sending you a copy very soon. I'm going to tell that right now.

[Ronnie]

Jonathan Deddingston Seagull because that's all they want to talk about. People who died and where they died in this house.

[Ben]

I. You know what I also couldn't stop looking at in this house? This is obviously a house from the 80s that's been revamped or whatever. But the. This. They have this big staircase in the center of the house. The spiral. Not spiral, but it's like a winding staircase. But the banister was like this thin, like white, white wrought iron banister. I feel like. I think we need a. Some. A banister rehab. Because it felt like it was. That was a holdover from, like 1983. And I think we need a better banister. Did you notice that? Was I the only one who was, like, saw that banister and was.

[Ronnie]

No. Those stairs were ugly. I don't know why they even shot by those stairs. And, you know, a lot of housewives homes, they won't shoot the whole home. You'll only see the kitch and the living room and that's it. And sometimes the bedroom for packing scenes. And this is why. Because banisters, we haven't really improved banisters that much.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And.

[Ben]

And yet at the same time, people are like, car companies are obsessed with reinventing door handles, and it's driving me nuts.

[Ronnie]

So annoying.

[Ben]

Can we focus on banisters instead? If we're going to revamp a design, can we focus on banisters? Because now every new car. How many Ubers do you get into where you was like, you're trying to get out. You're like, you're like, pawing at the side of, like, where the is the door. It's like, oh, you have to, like, press the button that's over your head and that reveals a little latch, and you turn that latch and that reveals a button. It's like, it's like what happened? Like a simple. Like a handle.

[Ronnie]

Truly.

[Ben]

Like, we did not have to change that.

[Ronnie]

Like, you have to put Ferrer Jacques on your armpit to open the passenger side door. Like, what the bro? Let me out of the car. No, it's all of them. Well, you're right. That start with.

[Ben]

No, it could start with Tesla being clever about how to open a door.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. But mine, you have to push the door handle in to get out. And can I tell you, of course, like, I got it. Because you just learn it once, right? And you're fine. But whenever my dad gets to this car, he cannot get out. He's pulling the door handle. Pulling the door handle.

[Ben]

What?

[Ronnie]

Can I get out? Yeah, because I'm trying to keep you in here, dad. Push the thing. You've been in this car 30 times.

[Ben]

Like, nothing is intuitive. The handles on the outside are a little crazy, the handles on the inside, a little crazy. And, yeah, I've learned them, but I just don't. I'm not. I'm not old and crusty. I'm just saying I don't see why we had. Had to, like, reinvent a very simple lever.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but we can't reinvent banisters. Like, banisters. Fix the banisters.

[Ben]

Let's get a better banister design. Okay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. Okay. So she goes through this house, and she takes her sister there. And basically, Tia wrote a blackmailing. She's like, I wrote a really nice, emotionally blackmail y email asking for permission to go see the house. And it's her dad's old house, and she moved to D.C. to be by her dad. And she says her dad hated England but loved D.C. and he would call her Mona Lisa because she always. She was always moaning and complaining, which I liked. So she talks about how great her father was. Did her father have a family on her mother, or did he divorce the mother and then go have another family? I forget the story.

[Ben]

I'm not. I got this. I can't tell. I got the sense that there was no. I got the sense that there was overlap, because on the last episode, that's what they were talking about was that Tia has told her kids that, like, there's another. Like, that she has a sister because the dad had a. Have children with another woman, but that her kids have not figured out the timeline yet, implying that there was overlap. So, yeah. I mean, seems great.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I mean, look, I get loving your dad and stuff, and especially once he's gone and giving respect and everything, but I. The whole. Idolizing your. I don't know. I. I was. I'm still mad at the dad. Is that fair? It's not even my dad. And I'm still mad at the dad. I'm still mad at him.

[Ben]

I just really enjoy being mad at some of the people on these shows.

[Ronnie]

I do, too.

[Ben]

It feels great. It feels.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So I'm. I'm, like, riled up about the handles thing now that, like, I'm gonna be angry at everyone on screen. Like, I'm angry at this lady in her overalls. I'm angry at her sons. I'm angry at whoever came up with the font on the booklet that we see. Like, I'm just. Now it's. Now it's unleashed.

[Ronnie]

I feel the same way. And I'm not only at her dad for what he did to Tia's family, but also for not fixing the banister. You know, it could have started with him. He never made. He. He didn't make positive choices. There, I said it.

[Ben]

Yeah. That the banister really needed to be. I, I really. I, I, I hope they. I hope this lady considers a banister redo. So this. So Tia's very emotional. She starts to cry right away, and. Oh, I didn't think I'd cry. So. Sorry. Last time I was here, my dad was with me, and Emma's like, oh, and. And you said that he died eight years ago.

[Ronnie]

Right.

[Ben]

Okay. Did you ring on his doorbell then? Because he didn't ring on my doorbell. Okay, Next time, ring on my doorbell. Okay. Oh, yes. But I've driven by here a couple of times with my mom and taken pictures, and it would be weird to knock on the door, and I thought it was weird to email you, so I'm so happy that you responded.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, and she did respond. She not only responded, she's made up a bed for you because you're never leaving this house. She's like, oh, my God, I love, like, breakfast. What do you like? Do you like puzzles?

[Ben]

Let's do a puzzle.

[Ronnie]

Get. Get me the. Out of this house. So they look at the house and stuff, and I guess it's nice.

[Ben]

It's nice. It's nice. And then, like, their uncle calls. And then, like, at this moment, Amira, her sister, goes into a room, and, like, one of the sons has, like, a little, like, note, like a little book of, of, like, daily affirmations. And one, like, the. The book has been propped open to a certain date, apparently, like, that's the one he likes the best. And that date that it was propped open to is the same day as their dad's birthday. So Tia just starts to, like. She just starts to cry because it feels like a sign and yada, yada, yada. So it's, like, a very emotional moment for her.

[Ronnie]

Wow. Yeah. And it says, the praise should be directed at the performance and not the person.

[Ben]

So it's basically like.

[Ronnie]

Like, what does that mean?

[Ben]

Stop taking all that credit, kid.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm the person who performed it, so I'm taking the credit. I bought this. Like, I'm Celebrating the billboard.

[Ben]

There's no I in team is, I think, is sort of what it's saying, right? Because it's also like an athletic. It looks like it was sort of an athletic affirmation. Right. Wasn't there, like, a swimmer or, like, someone doing track and field on this little affirmation?

[Ronnie]

I guess those people really never let you be happy with yourself. Athletes.

[Ben]

I'm just saying. Just, like, don't get a big head. Like. Like, praise. Praise.

[Ronnie]

Like, but there is an e in me. How about that?

[Ben]

Mm. Mm. And there's a. And there's a. There's a. There's. There's a T. There's a T in towel.

[Ronnie]

There's an I in mine.

[Ben]

So there can't spell team without eat as in eat it.

[Ronnie]

Suck my dick. There's a suck my dick and suck my dick. So Tia is talking about how her dad wanted his children to all be close, and she fought him on it. And she carries so much guilt. And here's what I was thinking about during this part. The scene is too long. Like, it's nice and stuff, but I'm mad at your dad. The banister sucks. Get me out of the scene, please. Do something else.

[Ben]

I liked the scene, but the banister really drove me nuts. I'm really glad that we agree with that. The banister sucked. Sucked. Emily, if you're listening, you seem like a lovely person. Get a better banister. It's time.

[Ronnie]

Seriously, you beat the change. You know what I mean? So now we're.

[Ben]

There is a bee and banister. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So now we go to lunch with Ashley, Giselle, and Wendy, and it's like a competition to see who can dress stupider for lunch. Like, who dresses like this to go to lunch. And we. I love Real Housewives. I watch every episode of every Real Housewives. But, Wendy, where are you eating? What are you doing? The only outfit we saw stupider so far in 20. And I'm gonna see Keep saying stupider even though I don't think it's a word. But the only dumber outfit we've seen in 2026 is in the next hour on Married to Medicine when Contessa shows up in that outfit for that purse. Party like. Or what? What is happening on Sunday night? What is happening tonight?

[Ben]

Oh, God. I'm doing the Carrie Underwood Sunday Night Football theme song to play football and watch the Steelers. So Wendy is like, it's a great game last night, by the way, guys. I do butch things like watch football. And that game last night was great. Great. So Wendy is like, the fight that with my mom is really weighing heavily on me. So I'm not one to naturally talk about my feelings, especially when it's about my mom. And that's the woman that brought me into this earth. So I'm very delicate and with how I want to approach who I talk to her about, which really has nothing to do with anything that happens this episode. I think that was like some weird transition out of lest it's like, oh, I guess we should. We should address that crazy scene that happened now we've addressed it, and now we can go back to being shady.

[Ronnie]

What was a good reason to throw in the clip of Shut the Up Wendy, which is all I really needed from the episode?

[Ben]

Yeah, I really, I. We really need to have. What? Why am I blanking on her name again? What's Wendy's mom's name again? Susan. Susan and Vita. We need a Susan and Vita. We need to have, like, a family feud episode with Susan and Vita. And we can have Wendy and MJ come to the podium. And it's gonna be something like, name something you might find at the beach. And MJ rings in and is like, starfish. And video goes, starfish. Why would you say that? Why would you say starfish? No, why are you snacking? And then Wendy will be like, boom. No, not so fish. A seashell. Oh, shut the up, Wendy. Seashell at the beach. Your mother should be at the beach.

[Ronnie]

Add a little muzzy in there as the host. Be a perfect evening.

[Ben]

Muzzy, Harvey.

[Ronnie]

Well, I never approved of you going to the beach in the first place.

[Ben]

And how did the beach turn out for you? We didn't go to the beach.

[Ronnie]

So the girls gather to be evil about other people, which is the kind of lunch I love. So they're talking about their. Their stupid party. Wendy's, like, all event was amazing. Your event was not amazing. Your event was store bought potato salad and Popeye's chicken. Okay.

[Ben]

Is that a rec center stop? At a rec center stop, the only thing that was missing was a strange staircase in the middle of the room. Because that seems to be like, like, usually the standard for any venue that they go to on Potomac. But aside from that, like, yeah, so.

[Ronnie]

It feels like it was missing the rec center bulletin board for missing dogs.

[Ben]

Yeah, I feel like every event that they have on Potomac, there is a staircase. They either have to go up a staircase to get to a second floor because everything's on the second floor, or for some reason, there's just a staircase in the Middle of the room. So this was the. The rec center just broke all the rules.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Was it center that they had the fight? The. The shrine center Fight? The shrine fight. The initial. You know what? Honestly, don't even answer. It's the stupidest question of all time. Like, was that the same rec center that they shot a scene in two years ago? Like, literally, no one cares. So Giselle's like, by the way, I just walked out the door because my feet were hurting, which is my clunky way of saying, can we talk about Timo walking out the door?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And she's like, oh, my God, we're not gonna talk about my Fuenteemo. Okay. And she says, that's your friend. She goes, oh, he was so nice to me. And they're like, oh, really?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Because we just got a text from Moni, and I think we're being invited somewhere. But, yeah, they're basically going to try and make this whole thing like, Teemo's an evil, abusive husband, because that's what Giselle likes to do to husbands on this show. Unless you're Juan and, like, openly cheating on your wife, then she's all for you. But, yeah, she's.

[Ben]

She's trying to throw some shade that I can't believe Tima wouldn't want to hang out with us. So. But Monique has invited them all to a sip and read. And she says, in preparation for the release of Love Letters from Versions of Myself, a Memoir of Self Discovery, Transformation, Healing, written by. By Monique Samuels. So it's gonna be this. It's gonna be a book reading that they're gonna be having, hosted by radio personality D. Carter, who I believe has shown up on this show a few times. And Ash is like, oh, yeah, that's cool. And. And Giselle, they're just talking about this book launch, and Ashley's wondering if angel and Kierna are invited.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And we don't know, but angel might be in Colorado for the trip because that's where she really lives, and she might be there getting things together. So now we're gonna have this big Colorado TR to invite them all to go to her Wonderland retreats. And Wendy says that sometimes she's a wet blanket, which sometimes. Yeah, she's always a wet blanket. She's a wet blanket, which you could use in Colorado. Like forest fires, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah, she is. She is a. She is. She is the wetest of the blankets. So Giselle's like, well, when she came around this group, she swore up and down that she Wants to be our friend. She wants to get to know us. Blah. And Wendy's like, yeah, she doesn't want to be our friend. Well, she wants to be in our lives forever. But I feel like it was all a lie. We were duped, but, y', all, we're about to go to this woman's house. So they're really now playing up this thing. Like, I don't think that angel was lying and duping them, but Giselle is going to play up this thing because clearly Angel's trigger is being called a catfish or inauthentic or duplicitous, so.

[Ronnie]

Well, typical, isn't it? Yeah, it's where it's just out's like, oh, wow, I'm gonna torture somebody for an entire and make them feel like. And then I'm gonna say, wow, this. Like, she doesn't even want to be friends with me. That's crazy. Yeah, cuz you're an.

[Ben]

Well, because also, Giselle is the type that's like, she is going to rib you. Rib you a bit and throw shade at you and see how you handle it. And if you, like, handle it well and give it back, she's like, oh, okay, you've accepted my love. My weird love language is, I'm gonna be shady to you. You. And if you accept it, it means that you've accepted my love language. I'm safe with you, and you're cool and we're down. But if you're like angel and you cry or you get mad and make Giselle feel like a bad person for being shady, Giselle's like, oh, reject, reject, reject. You're an awful person. So that's really what's happened with Giselle. Angel has rejected Giselle's shadiness. And, like, in. I feel like in a normal world, I don't think, like, you're like, I don't think think if someone's gonna be shady to you, you don't owe it to them to laugh it off and be like, oh, yeah, I'm cool with that. Like, if someone's shady to you and you don't really know them, it's within your right to be like, fuck off. But also, you came on this show and, like, it's got 10 years of established shady behavior and you just cannot act so, like, blindsided by this.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you have to be better at. At dealing with it for sure. But it's just that Giselle's always a jerk to people, and then she wonders why nobody likes her. Because you're an Asshole. And then she says things like this. Yeah, but like, I don't want to be around Debbie Downer or I. You do a show with Robin. What are you talking about? Your best friend is Robin.

[Ben]

Literally the. The. The. The OG Wet blanket. Ogwb. I've got a business.

[Ronnie]

I'm selling wet blankets. Embellished that may have been. Also, Wendy says she's looking forward to the trip because she knows it's going to be a shit show. So now we go to angel, who's packing suitcases into her car. And she's talk sister, and she's talking about the house. And, you know, Bobby's so livid about the house. And, you know, it's just going to be good to get back to Colorado so that we can refocus because I've invited the ladies out to Colorado.

[Ben]

Yeah. She's like, I'm gonna do, like, a private dinner, and then we'll have a mezcal tasting. It's this new beverage. This woman named Aaron brought it to the country. I can't wait to show all the girls about it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And so she's like, yeah, Colorado's a safe and sacred space that me and my husband have built. You built. You built Colorado?

[Ben]

She built it.

[Ronnie]

That's like a huge credit. Where's your billboard?

[Ben]

Yeah, it used to also be very flat. She's like, I'm putting in some mountains. I'm putting in a very large airport.

[Ronnie]

You know what this place put in some elevation and some trees and Heidi Montag.

[Ben]

Yes. I'll always remember when I signed up for Clear, I did it next to Heidi Montag at the Denver Airport. Heidi and Spencer are right next to me at the next little Clear terminal. And I was like, I'll never forget this moment. I was like, I feel so blessed to do this mundane task with Spidey next to me. So angel says that Colorado is safe and sacred, as you just mentioned. And she goes. And then she's talking to. She's. She continued to talk about this. She goes, I mean, they're saying I was evicted. I mean, I moved here, that I moved here for the group. I mean, the proof is in the pudding. They can kiss my ass with that eviction comment. I'm like, the proof of this. But you're literally being kicked out of your house.

[Ronnie]

The proof is a banana, and the pudding is banana pudding.

[Ben]

It's banana peel pudding, and you stepped on it.

[Ronnie]

It's like, they can kiss my ass with that eviction comment.

[Ben]

It.

[Ronnie]

You are. You were kicked out of that house. I don't know what, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if you were evicted or not. But later in the episode she's like, how dare you. I was not evicted. The lease just ended before we knew it was going to end. You. What does that mean?

[Ben]

That, why doesn't, why does this just say.

[Ronnie]

It's just how leases work.

[Ben]

She should just say we thought the lease was until the end of the month and it turns out it was not. We thought the lease was over like July 15th and it was over July 1st. We messed up, so now we gotta go. But I, but of course, then everyone would say, but why can't you get your two weeks added on to it? Or whatever. And they just say there's someone else coming in. So that's it. It was just like a clerical mistake. But the fact that she's trying to make it sound, she doesn't want to admit that they did anything wrong, that they messed up, that they were, they did something stupid. So it's just like, well, we just, the, the lease ended earlier than we realized or whatever. I don't know. She just, she's responding in a way that just sounds like pure. And that's why everyone's like, well we're just gonna say she got evicted and we're gonna keep poking at her.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So now we go to Ashley who's throwing a party for Uncle Lump. Woohoo. And some other people. Ashley's really getting them all in there, you know, Ashley's like there. This is called a six to 60 party because we've got a six year old and a 60 year old. And I'm like, guess who this is meaningful for ne those people. The 60 year old doesn't want to be partying with the 6 year old. And the 6 year old sure as doesn't want to be partying with some. With Methuselah over there.

[Ben]

Uncle Lump. You know, it's so funny watching Uncle Lump walk in the house. He's like, oh God, time to shoot another scene with my niece where I give really good advice that she does not pay attention to. Or maybe I'll give it to my sister who will not pay attention to my advice. I'll just give more good advice on TV that everyone's going to ignore.

[Ronnie]

Can't wait to celebrate another year of none of these idiots listening to me.

[Ben]

This poor guy, he gives good advice every single, like good, very simple advice every single year and no one pays attention to him.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, justice for Uncle Lump. His name is Lump. You know what I mean? Who's gonna listen? Like, you need to have a better name. You can't call yourself Lump and then expect people to listen to you. Like, yeah, I'm not listening to a person named Lump. I'm having that removed.

[Ben]

Here comes one right now. So, people, everyone's arriving. Uncle Lump is there, Monica. And you know, we have this whole everything's on the wall, like six to 60, yada yada. And so they all gather in. In the living room and there's like a cake. And Ash is just saying how it just really means a lot to that that they're all there and there's no tension, basically because Michael's not there. You know, we see a flashback to really awkward moment where Uncle Lump is like, yeah, it's really great for us all to get together and have this dinner because, you know, we know how quickly bad news travels. And Michael's like, raw. Whatever. It means want to rip your ass, Uncle Lump.

[Ronnie]

Isn't it nice to finally be at a party that Michael's paying for that he's not at? So, Monica, Uncle Lump's wife is like, wow, Ashley, can I just tell you, you. It means just so much to me to be in your space and be in your home. What does that mean?

[Ben]

I know. Monica, you've been there before, haven't you?

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You've been in her faux seaside resort house.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, they're saying. Because now Ashley's not even mentioning Michael. She's like, well, previously, because of whatever relationships were going on between my ex partner and my family, it used to be very, very tense. So now Sheila's like, oh, you know, Jessica couldn't be here, but I just want to be with you guys, my family. So I know I initially told you about my partner who decided to go into treatment. You know, we talked about this. Ashley and Ashley's like, we did. Remember when I told you I was cutting you off unless he got treatment? She's like, yeah, that was good conversation. So the, the. The guy has finally checked in to someplace.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's. And yeah, she's like. And you know, this is like the beginning. It was like really hard for me. It was really, really hard. And then Uncle Lump is like, like, so, so wait, what are we talking about? So we're talking about John getting treatment. And, you know, you saw Sheila's face be like, we weren't going to mention his name on camera, but thank you very much. But yeah, and you see, she's like, Regretting it. She immediately was like, whatever she was announcement she was going to make, she just decides to cut it off because she's now like very glassy eyed and she's upset and, and they're all like, and it's a good thing, this is a good thing. This is a good thing for John. Still hate this guy. We'll say we like him, him, but hey, we're so, we're really so happy for that piece of that he finally went to rehab. What was actually crazy is we, we see a flashback at some point of Ashley talking to her mom. They had, they had that fight in her kitchen and that was 2018. That was like, we're coming up on eight years ago that that fight happened. I cannot believe how long ago that was. Like this, the story about this guy needing to go to rehab. I cannot believe it's taken this long.

[Ronnie]

And never having a job and just being supported by Ashley's mom and Ashley and Michael, really.

[Ben]

And Michael, honestly.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So I don't blame Uncle Lump for being like, his name is John and he's a loser. Too little too late, sucker.

[Ben]

Don't mention that very distinct name on tv.

[Ronnie]

How will they ever find him? So Sheila cries, she's like. And so Ashley, Ashley's proud of her mom, you know, because that was putting a strain on their relationship and stuff. And then Ashley's like, we love you and we love him too, which no you don't. And Ashley's like, yeah, he's never gone to rehab before, so I'm proud of him. You know, 14 year old Ashley has wanted this day for 23 years.

[Ben]

Yeah. So yeah, that's, that's exciting. And then the cakes come out and now it's time to go to Monique's event, a place called Oliam. So Monique is saying how she set everything up and she's good to go. People are coming in and she's really excited about her new book, Love Letters from Versions of Myself.

[Ronnie]

Oh, no.

[Ben]

And she.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm sorry. But first of all, writing love letters to yourself is weird. Just masturbate like everybody else. Stop being such a weirdo about it. And second of all, I really don't like when people talk about themselves as versions because they did something that got them fired a few years ago. You're not a new version of yourself. This is just a different season. Stop. Stop acting like you're a totally different person. I don't want totally different person. I want the same Monique. Just maybe not hitting somebody, you know what I mean? Like Just amend the other Monique. I don't need a whole different version. I don't want to have to buy a new book of you every time you decide not to hit somebody. You know what?

[Ben]

I know what's amazing. I actually have a love letter from a former version of myself. So, look, it says, dear future Ben, just finished seeing my 18th Dave Matthews concert. They finally played Dancing Nancy's. It was so good. I'm so drunk right now. Anyway, catch you later. That was so nice of my promotion to write that to myself.

[Ronnie]

I just got a love letter from myself from three years ago. Ronnie, you're fat. God, I was a bitch. Really? A.

[Ben]

Wait, here's. Wait, here's one.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I'm sorry. That was from my mom. That was from my mom.

[Ben]

Oh, here's. Here's one from an old, older version of myself. Dear Ben, just finished watching season one of the OC What a great show. You're going to love it its entire run. Wow. That's a very specific. That's a very specific letter prediction that I made to myself back in 2002. I wonder why I wrote that to myself.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I just got a letter from myself from last year. This is actually nice. This version of myself from last year. Ronnie just got a letter from Mom. You're fat. I'm just not. I'm not opening these letters anymore. Why would I even write myself?

[Ben]

Oh, my God. Oh, I just got one. I just got. I just got one. Dear, Dear future Ben, just had the most amazing time watching Kelly Dodd on Bravo. She is so funny and so great. I hope. I can't wait for the network to embrace for her to be a legend. And on the future Housewives Rushmore, what could go wrong?

[Ronnie]

I actually did get a real text from my dad. This is the first text I've gotten from my dad this year. Well, I got one that said, happy New Year's. He's not a monster. But this one says, I decided to have my car washed inside and out. $42. Ridiculous. Another good reason to buy Alexis. They wash your car for free forever. Okay, well, I got.

[Ben]

I got a check. I woke up to this text from my mom.

[Ronnie]

That's the current version of my dad.

[Ben]

Dad, I got. I got this text from my mom this morning when I woke up, and this is a true text. Ben Colon. After consulting a few Indian cookbooks, I made my own version of mulligatawni soup that dad and I really loved. I thought I'd share this recipe in case you want a hearty soup slash Meal on a dreary January day.

[Ronnie]

So P. S, you might notice that I've taken all Indian products out of this recipe. Whenever moms say I made my own version of an Indian soup, what would you make? Chicken noodle soup. Soup. I don't believe you. I want to taste soup.

[Ben]

I'm assuming that she mixed multiple recipes together. You know what I would do, by the way? If I had a sassy Indian restaurant, I would call it a Megan. Megan Mulgatani Lawlins. Never mind. Oh, here's a note to myself from five minutes ago. Ben, I have this great Megan Mulally pun that you can do. Please make sure you stick the landing.

[Ronnie]

P.S. ronnie Spencer. Okay, so Monique is talking about her healing journey and she. The reason she wrote this book is because I did not realize how many other women who had experienced some of the same things. So if I could be the version. So if I could be the voice for that person that feels alone, that's what I want to be.

[Ben]

So she called it not for lonely moms.

[Ronnie]

NFL. It would still be NFL moms. You're right. And she's. I love that she's just writing for every woman. Like for any woman who is married to a tens of millions of air football fan who's kind of a jerk and who made poops bigger than the toilet, this book's for you.

[Ben]

For any woman who has sex with her husband and emerges looking like a fruit roll up. Or a piece of paper, this one's for you. It's a big man. Big man. Okay, so she's been working on it and she's very excited. So this is my favorite. So Angel Elder wag comes up to her and goes, I'm so excited for you. And as a writer, I know how hard it is to stay dedicated and keep going with page after page of your book. I can't wait to read it as a writer. What? Where did this come from?

[Ronnie]

Hold on. Let's look up her book. Let's look it up.

[Ben]

I did. I looked up last night. Of course. Say, what books has Angel Massey written? And first it tries to say, did you mean Alan Massey? That's not happen. What books has Angel Massey from Real Housewives of Potomac written?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she has not.

[Ben]

She has not published any books herself, but was featured in a recent episode discussing Monique Samuel's new. Wow, that's good. That's really fast. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

It said Angel Massey is associated with nature and mindfulness and is launching a podcast called State of ease. Well, oh my God, I'm in a State of ease. Already knowing that this podcast is coming out, but there isn't a widely known book titled Angel Massey by so what?

[Ben]

I also. I had looked it up last night and the search results said that she has done some writing, but it was more like newsletters or like, like unconventional publishing. Like. Like zines or not zines, but like.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I found it. I'm on Amazon. I went on Amazon and I looked up Angel Massey, and the first result is called Evicted. Interesting. Interesting. Sounds good.

[Ben]

Angel Massey. So it's a cookbook. It's a single ingredient cookbook for catfish. How interesting.

[Ronnie]

But to be fair, she doesn't say she wrote a book. She says, as a writer, I know how hard it is to stay dedicated. So, you know, maybe she. Maybe it's like grocery lists, you know.

[Ben]

Oh, well, you know what? I've just gone right to the source. I've gone to her website to find.

[Ronnie]

She has a website. Oh, my God. I'm going on it right now. Okay.

[Ben]

It's called the angel. The angel era.com bio. I do believe that she writes stuff, you know.

[Ronnie]

Well, yeah, that's different. That was. That was my bad. That was my bad.

[Ben]

Okay. With confidence, journalists and mindfulness practitioner with conf. Oh, I see. With confidence, comma, journalist and. Okay, well, there's a grammatical error in the first line of her bio. I hate to say it, as a writer, I know how hard it is to resist putting in a comma everywhere, but it says, with confidence, journalist and mindfulness practitioner Angel Massey. Okay. She has too many commas, so bad sign. I guess. So she was a journalist. Brings edge impact and unfettered truth to her work. She started at BET News, producing news interstitials. So this is why she's sensitive about being called a catfish. It's because she. She comes news and that's like the worst thing you can accuse a journalist of is not being authentic or good with your sources. So that makes a lot of sense.

[Ronnie]

Oh, but next sentence. By 20, she had already written. Written Rondel. The word is written. Already written. And produced a documentary on the network. Yes, we can. The Obama Speech Special. So she did write stuff. So see, we're just.

[Ben]

Okay, okay. Yeah. Okay. She's a respected writer covering topics from music to politics, pop culture to social issues for national publications like Complex, Vibe, and the examiner. Okay, that's great.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so she. So we're just. Yeah, I take. I take it back, too. But I'm still waiting on the evicted.

[Ben]

Because she's still an. Because she's promoting Herself in this moment. You know, Monique has written a book. She's. Whatever it is. Love letters. And for angel to be like, as a writer, she's sort of doing that thing like I do it too, you know, and that's kind of like obnoxious. So you can just say, I'm so excited for you. I know how hard it is to, to stay dedicated and keep doing one page after the next. Like it's, you know, I just, just typical, you know, she's always ready to insert, like, promote what she's done. Right. Like as a wag. As someone who's married to someone who was a starter for 10 years, as an elder WAG for an starter.

[Ronnie]

Let me just say I know how difficult it is to start. Start. So congratulations on starting this event. Also, she lists her favorite song as Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Requiem in D minor. So there you go. Don't argue. Don't argue. Hello there. This is a two part recap. Okay, this is the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.

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