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Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yule bravs. I'm Ronnie. That is Benjaminius over there. Hi, Ben.
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Hi. Look how excited I was. I said hello with you today like a Greek chorus.
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Oh, God. Welcome, everybody. Sad day indeed, because it is the ending of an era. A Salt Lake City Season 6 era. Because Salt Lake City ends today. Well, I mean, it doesn't completely end. We've got the reunion episodes coming up where Daddy Andy gets angry and walks out. He's like, I can't take it anymore. But this is the season finale and I have loved the season. I mean, I love Salt Lake City. I love it. I watched a little bit of this Members Only Palm beach show that everybody's talking about on Netflix. It is like watching a Jimmy Dean sausage burn in an air fryer. I mean, I don't. I can't look away. It's disgusting because I don't eat meat. But I. It's good, but nothing compares to Real Housewives. I'm sorry. It just doesn't. Okay. You just don't. You don't win. Okay. I watched this and I was like, this feels more comforting. Yeah.
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I mean, I think Members Only Palm beach is pretty amazing. I've only seen the first episode. I liked it because it felt like this. We were finally cashing in on the promise of Elise Sloan. It's like, finally, finally. This is like Elise Sloan needed to go down to Palm beach and like, metamorphosize into these women. And that's what we got with that. And that show, I think, is pretty incredible after the first episode. But Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City, I think it was a good season. I don't think it was as strong as some of our more recent seasons. I'm, I, I'm a little worried that it's winking at the audience just a bit too much. Like, it's. It got away with it. Got away with it. But, like, we need to, like, let's. Let's not become self parody. But that being said, before we go any further, we have big news. In case you missed it on the last recap, tickets for the Golden Crappies are going on sale this Friday. Okay. The Golden Crappies are going to be on February 27th at the Fonda Theater in Los Angeles. It's an LA year. We hope you all come and join Us, we always have so much fun giving out awards for the best of the worst, the most chaotic, most scandalous on Bravo and beyond. And we love it. It's a chance for the whole community to come together. The Bravo community, the Krappin community. We'll have special guests, we'll have all sorts of fun things. So tickets are on sale on Friday. There is going to be a Patreon pre sale tomorrow, Thursday that's going to go from 10am to 10pm Pacific. And then Friday morning they'll go on sale at 10am Check our socials. If you're not subscribed, check us out at Watch more crappens. Get your updates there. There'll be ticket links there. We'll put it up on the site. All the information will be there. It's gonna be so fun. We have fun every year doing it. So come join us. And that's yes. Also means that we'll be creating a ball. So keep your eyes and ears open for any solicitations for favorite moments of the year, favorite fights, villains, et cetera. Start like going through your mental Rolodex about what happened in Bravo over the past year because we have to build this ballot and we want all of your input.
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Yes. So this is going to be a whole month of good times for us, everybody. So pay attention to the socials. Also, we have moved to Acast Network so you might notice Ad free is missing. It will be restored this week. Well, probably next week. Let's say the beginning of next week probably will be earlier. But let's just say beginning of next week over on Patreon is where you will get an ad free feed that will be at our lowest tier. Patreon is also where you get bonus episodes. This week we start Traders recap. So. Well, not full recaps but coverage. We talked about it. And it's also where you get videos, Crappin's on Demand videos, which we're on right now. So thanks to everybody over at Patreon and we're so excited that we can bring Ad Free to Patreon finally. We've wanted to for years. So we're psyched.
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Yes, we're so psyched about that. And one last quick thing is that if you happen to be in the Miami area on February 21st is it. We are going to be doing Crappy hour at the South Beast. South Beast. The South Beach Food and Wine Festival. How fun is that? We're going to be doing a nice 45 minute set down there. So come join us, if you're going to the festival.
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Yeah, we're so excited to be there. Oh, my God, So much food. All right, so let's get this going. Season Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 6 Episode 16 Sisters of Salt A Greek Tragedy we open with ominous music. I am Greek. And a lady saying, behold the daughters, the sisters of Salt. The world's elegance, grace. But the world did not see the war.
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And we see a sign that says something like the Tomato Performance, like, Performing Arts Center. I was like, I love that. They did this whole big set piece at, like, the Tomato Theater of Santorini.
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Tomatoes are a big part of a big part of Greek culture. Okay.
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Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I. I was amused by that. It's like, it's a tomato industrial museum, which probably, like, a very, like, fine museum, but, like, for some reason, the fact that it's called tomato, it's like, that's so appropriate for this show. So, yes, we hear this voice, and then we see previews of what's to come later, like crying and masks and flowy dresses. And it ends with Mary saying, why are we here if we're not friends? If we all feel the same way? There's something wrong. And then it's like. And then the women all. Let me see. All the actresses fall on the ground because they die. And it's very dramatic.
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12 hours earlier day four of Angie's Greek Trip. So we open with Meredith making coffee. And she's.
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Dare she.
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How dare she make coffee? Is something wrong with Meredith? She's making coffee.
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Did you see that? Meredith Marks made coffee. And the very first scene. I mean, wow. Off the races.
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She is jacket call Betty Ford. She's going downhill, everybody.
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She touched the button on the Nespresso machine.
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It's terrible.
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When will she ever stop?
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Now, we all knew that the season finale was going to be Heather and Whitney's final attempt at taking down Meredith. They've been trying it the whole season. Let's see what they've got. Do they have anything new for the season finale? Not really, but they do have the addition of Bronwyn on their team, which I found to be an interesting choice. But you know what? Bronwyn, I guess, decided to show up. And she's. She's here. She showed up. So let's see what they've got.
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Bronwyn's a great fighter, I will say, whether you're on her side or not. I mean, she really. She really can gather someone. I mean, she. She is so good at it. So Meredith is committing the cardinal sin of making coffee. Not even by her own skill, just using a Keurig machine. So she's making it for everyone and she's being nice and warm, which, I mean, who would ever deign to be friendly in the morning after you had a rough night? It's almost like you slept on it and felt better when you woke up. Like, what sort of bullshit is that? What sort of fuckery is that? Why are you not in rehab for sadness? That's crazy.
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How'd you sleep, Mary? Is that good? I mean, I slept well. I hope it's a nice day because it's our last day. Meredith. Nice voice chiming in two episodes in a row. So Angie comes in and Angie has a swollen lip. And you know, Mary is that friend who just, no matter what's going on in your life, she just makes you feel better. She just makes you feel beautiful. No matter what is going on inside that. I'm just kidding, Mary. Just like.
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Kill it with fire. Is it bad? It's bad.
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It's really bad. It is really bad. And so Brahmin comes in, she's like, hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. I'm gonna. I'm gonna nod my. I'm five times faster than I say hi.
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Hi.
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Hi. Hi. Hi.
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Look, we are really seeing Angie's heritage at work. She is so Greek. She's a full on Greek tragedy. Because she's looking at the. She's looking at the lip because they're like, did you see her lips? You guys see it? I slept next to it. So Brahman's like, yeah.
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Mary's like, yeah, look at it. It's disgusting. Look at her lip. Hey, Angie, come over here.
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Look at it.
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It's disgusting. So Bronwyn's like, yeah, it does look bad. Well, at least you're still pretty, Angie. Oh, thanks, Mary. Thanks, Mary.
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Jesus. Yeah, seriously. So Bronwyn says something that I was. A sentence that makes no sense as of right now. She goes, I'm excited to see Stella's play. At which point I think everyone's like, who, Who, Who's Stella and what's the play? And Angie tells us, we have had some ups and downs, but I want everyone to leave here reflecting back on this trip of a lifetime. So. So I found a playwright who's going to write a play about us in the style of ancient Greek theater. Okay, I'm just going to stop. I'm going to pause this recap for a second. We all recognize that two years ago Salt Lake City had The. What I think is believed to be the best season finale of any Real Housewives franchise. One of the best season finales of any reality docu show ever. It was just fantastic. Excited. It broke the Internet. We all know. I don't have to explain it. Last year, they clearly felt the pressure to top it, and they had a maybe not quite as iconic, but definitely hilarious and memorable moment where they all sat down and read each other's texts. And that's when you have, like, one foot on the banana, one foot in the grave, yada yada. It was all great. I think it's now time to tell Salt Lake City and other franchises, you don't have to keep chasing the highs of season four. Just let season four be season four. Let's go back to having normal season finales. Because, like, this Greek thing that had this. This Greek play was entertaining and I enjoyed it, but we're getting farther and farther moved away from reality as much as reality exists on these shows. I personally am, like, a fan of when the shows end with the big party and the whole cast and all, like, the husbands and everything, you know, everyone that's, like, associated with it comes together in a party. I enjoy it because there's usually something embarrassing that happens, and it's more embarrassing because there's, like, mixed company there. The ones that end on vacation are fine, too. I do enjoy that. Like, that the vacation is climactic, but I just feel like trying to chase this moment where you have a big reveal or some giant set piece that happens. It's just gonna, like, take us a little bit. It's gonna. It's sort of, like, heading. Not saying it's happening, but it's heading towards jumping the shark. And I would love it if, like, we sort of, like, cap it with this season. Let's cap it with this Greek tragedy and let's, like, come back down to earth a little bit. I hope I'm not being a party pooper, but that's, like, genuinely how I feel. What do you think?
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Okay, well, I feel like you're allowed. You know you're allowed.
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Okay, thanks.
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And I would like to say this. I'm going to say this with as much respect as I can muster. I'm just going to say one word. Bill. Bill. Bill. No. Boo. Totally disagree. I love this. I love everything about it. Salt Lake City is community theater, housewives. They're ridiculous. They've always been. They shoot in parking lots. They were arrested in a parking lot. Like, this show is so stupid. Even their best season Finale was totally scripted by Heather for the entire season. And I love it. I love a good show. I love a. I love a show that's going to put on a good show. And this is definitely dinner theater and I am here. The fact that they actually ended at dinner theater, to me was just so poetic and beautiful. Is everything we've ever called this show. And the fact that we actually got real, live dinner theater as a finale, I just was like, this is my favorite show. It can never be canceled.
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Worlds.
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Okay, now Heather is still too much. I know. I'm on a Heather hate train this year. It's not really hate. Like, I don't hate her or anything. I think she's very valuable to the cast. I'm not saying fire Heather or anything. Heather is too much. This is too much of Heather's drunken bullying people. She's belligerent and she's a bully. And I'm. That's it. That's it. I'm done with her and I'm done with her self producing. But the rest of it, I mean, I loved it. Even Bronwyn.
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I enjoyed the camp value of it, but I just felt I. I do have, like, this nagging feeling like the producers are trying to, like, generate another break the Internet moment. And I just. I'm like, I kind of want them to stop trying to break the Internet and just like, focus on, like, the women a little.
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Right. It's not a mystery. You know, it's like big little lies. Did you watch that show? The first season was a mystery, and then the second season, they're like, oh, God, how do we do this if it's not a mystery? You know, and then people are like, I'm not watching that. It's not a mystery. And it became a different kind of thing. And this one is not. You're not Murder, She Wrote. I don't need it to be like. And then Heather discovers the killer in the end. It's like, I don't need that. But again, I think that that's Heather, you know, it's Heather and Whitney. I don't.
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Well, I think. But I mean, we're seeing it on Bravo across the board. I think in the wake of Scandival and in the wake of the season four finale, we're seeing a lot more of. The Housewives are finishing their seasons on vacation, which is not inherently bad, but I feel like they're trying to have these big, like. And here we picked up the. It's either we picked up the cameras or we're Going to have a devastating twist in the finale. And I feel like if the twist is there, if there is something to. To be twisted, then sure, but, like, we don't have to, like, like, I don't know. I just. I just worry that they're. They're trying too hard to tell us almost like, how to, like, to. For us to be like, whoa. And I'm like, just focus, like, let the. Just let the women do what the women do best. And I guarantee will be entertained and happy. And I'm not saying, like, I had a great time with this and I thought this was really fun, but I almost sort of want the producers to be like, okay, we don't have to, like, we don't have to be like, we don't have to keep on trying to top ourselves every single season. Just like, have a good season finale.
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Okay, well, you know, I feel like you're allowed, but, you know, I don't change a thing. Salt Lake City, you still got me. I'm still here. I'm still here. I'm still rooting for you.
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Don't listen to Ben. I got you. Just come in, come in. Nestle in my cheat.
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Well, we're awash. I think if the producers are actually listening, we're awash. We're not a big help in that meeting because, yeah, I just love it. But we go to three days earlier, and Angie and the girls are meeting Stella, the playwright Stella Adler, the great actress. The great actress of the acting school, Stellar Atlatopoulos.
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Yes.
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Stella fed Stella. So she's there. And Angie's like, okay, ladies, this is Stella Fedler. She is going to write a play about us. And so now they have to be interviewed by Stella. So it is kind of mixing season finales where instead of going through each other's texts, they're still going to shit talk each other, but now it's going to be to this weird redheaded lady. So. And Whitney's like, I was bullied too, for my red hair. How do you fell? Stella, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. So we go to Stella interviewing them, and Heather is like, okay, what do you want to know about me? I sure. Nothing. I have a stained mattress. Isn't that wacky? I gave my mattress to Goodwill and I drove it there in a U Haul truck, broke the Internet, and I.
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Wore heels on it and broke the mattress first. And then Lisa's like, okay, so Stella's like, tell me, what is the word? How do you describe yourself. And Lisa goes. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. There's, like, so many words coming to my head. Smart. Okay, wait, what are some other words? Trees. Do you have any words for me? Trees. Okay, that tree says I'm pretty. Okay. Ficus. Trees think I'm pretty. Go with that.
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Smart. Yeah. Gorgeous. Good looking. Hot. Wretch.
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Wretch.
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Smart. Ratch. Right there. And Brittany's, like, happy. And Brahm was, like, quirky. Unique. Shows up at airport dressed like rhinoceroses for their farting husband while they make out. It's fine. It's fun. You had to be there.
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It's.
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It's a good time.
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Pensive. I will be. I'm very pensive. Well, for me, I'm very well spoken. You can write that down. Well spoken. Oh, how do you say New York Times bestselling author in Greek? Whatever that is. Write that in there too.
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I'm a free spirit. And Mary says self aware, which is hilarious. The same week that her cult documentary came out.
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And then also, Brittany goes deep. Here's the thing. Even when the show throws in contrivances, these women are still so fucking so good.
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I loved everything, every second. Lisa's, like, intuitous. Yeah, I'm a Sagittarius. I'm a total sag. You're a sag, right? You a sag. Stella. No. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're a Capricorn. Yes, you are.
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Yeah.
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No, no. Oh. Oh, yeah. Leo.
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No.
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Aries.
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No. No.
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Okay.
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What are you. What are you? Pisces?
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Oh, my God. I knew you were gonna say that. I knew my next. My next guess was a chicken finger, but I'm so glad. You know what? I knew it. I knew it.
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You thought your astrological sign was chicken finger. At first, but then I was like, it's either chicken finger or Pisces.
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What can you tell me about your friends? Here she is. Oh, my God. Dramatic.
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Poorer. Poorer.
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Poorer than me. They're poorer than me.
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They have to be nice words. Okay, that's gonna be hard. Whitney goes ego. And then because they won lots of awards, they've got egos. That is egot. I'm working for one right now. I don't follow.
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Elephantal Greek over top play winner.
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Okay. You know, I. You may not know this, but I am actually the first ever regard, which is Greek Emmy, Greek Grammy, Greek Tony Award winner.
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Actually, I didn't win the Tony, but here in Greece, it is tzatziki. So I did win a tzatziki award. Huge, huge contest.
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Of course, yes. It is very, very special. And of course, there's no Grammys either. But it is a hero, so, you know, that is the G. It is.
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Silent Jack in the Box.
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We don't have Tony's. It's actually feta cheese, so it's actually an ego.
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Here we just. We only award Tony Shalhoub over and over again.
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It's.
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Greek enough.
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The O stands for editor.
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The Tony Shalhoub Award is for Greek enough. Okay. It's not actual Greek, but you're Greek enough to win this award.
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The E is actually for Elektra. I knew it.
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So Heather's like, a word for my friends. You want one word for my friends? How about lack of justice?
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That's okay, right? Okay.
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Well, I think it depends on how you define one word. I would say we're talking about an actual, like, friendship that I've had for a while.
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I would say guarded. The sisterhood is guarded. Martyr. Martyr. McFly. Do you mean Marty? Oh, whoops. Can I have a new word, please?
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Alcoholic. Pill popper.
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Exploited my vagina.
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Dingbat. There's a word to write down. And Mary goes, well, I like all of them except one, but that's. I mean, that's okay.
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That's hard coming up with a word. And Lisa goes, I'm just excited to see how this play turns out. Just make me cute. Okay.
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Thank you. All I care about is I look good. So we come back to the present, and the girls are in the kitchen. Thank God Meredith is not making somebody coffee today, because they would have had that girl thrown in a goddamn mental hospital. Geez. So the girls are in the kitchen, and Angie's like, I think it's gonna be a great final curtain on our last Greek night. And Brittany's like, good morning. Wait, why are we dressed already? Well, we're going to sit by the pool before we meet my cousin Michaels. Okay. Mikalee. Mikalee for lunch. You guys are gonna love him. He's Greek. He is Greek.
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Well, would anyone care for a cappuccino? Because I'm in a good mood today. Cappuccino? The devil's beverage.
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I'm sorry. We're taking someone in. We've heard someone's offered a cappuccino in this house.
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Seeing Meredith, so fine and easy breezy, beautiful. This morning is like a Maybelline ad because really makes me uncomfortable because hours ago, Meredith was texting me to come to her room in a full panic. It's being out of control that everyone's out to get her, and now she's Fine. I mean, everything's great. The birds have. Our birds are singing. Coffee's flowing. Meredith's alive, happy to live. What. What is that? Have you not heard of coffee? Have you not heard about what it's like to. You're. You're. You're crashing out, and then you have your morning coffee and you're like, you know what? It's true. It's chill. I'm in Greece. I'm fine.
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And here we are with Bronwyn again being like, oh, my God. Meredith spinning out of control, totally losing it, going crazy. You know, she just wants coffee. What's going on with Meredith? Meredith was losing it last night. Oh, where's the footage? Show me one bit of footage, please. Show me the text. Show me the text. I don't believe you.
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But also, like, aren't you. Aren't you allowed to lose it and, like, be paranoid and talk about it with your friend? And then you go to sleep and you chill out and you wake up the next morning, you feel better? Are you, like, not allowed to feel better? Like, isn't there an expression? Like, sleep on it? Like, aren't you allowed to vent to friends? Like, I don't see what's crazy. I actually don't doubt that she was, like, she was losing it, you know, because the thing is this. This cast knows that when it's like, the finale dinner, they know it's gonna be really, really hard. They're gonna have to let you feel like they're gonna be, like, fighting on a different level because, like, that's. That's just their new thing they have to do. So, like, yeah, she was freaking out, and I think that's, like, literally okay. And I think it's also okay to wake up in the morning and feel better.
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If that was the case, then that, yeah, that would be okay. But I see no evidence of her spinning out at all or freaking out in a full panic. Like, I just don't see it. That's not. There's not evidence in the text that she did that. There's not any evidence in the footage leading up to it that she did that. This is Bronwyn totally using words again to go off on somebody. And then later, she'll be like, I never said that. I never said. I never said. I never said you were losing your mind. You know? But she doesn't do that. But I thought at this point she was going to do that.
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Bronwyn has a history of being like, she was yelling when someone's not, like, saying that. And the truth is, here's what I imagine happen that Meredith probably like come to my room and she's like, okay, tomorrow's gonna be a shit show. I'm just thinking about it, like, what do I have to deal with? Like, what did you guys talk about at lunch? I know you guys are gonna, like, no one's gonna come back in my face. Just like, can you give me a heads up? I just, I just really am not in the mood to deal with this right now. Can you just, just let me know what, what, what were you guys saying? Like, what, what, what. What's. What's going on? What, what is tomorrow gonna look like? How do I have to prepare myself? Which I don't like. I imagine it was something like that. And Brahm was like, she was freaking out. She was like, what's happening? What's tomorrow gonna be? Like, what's. She was. She wants to know what's happen, happening at lunch. I just. And by the way, even if it's at its worst version, the Braun version, I just still don't think there's anything wrong with it. I just don't see what's wrong with freaking out the night before the finale knowing that you're. You've already been attacked so many times this season. So you know it's going to come out like it's gonna be the boss fight and you just want to be prepped by someone that you think is a friend.
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Yeah, agreed. What, what is shitty is taking an off camera conversation and then throwing it in somebody's face to get airtime the next day and get cred with the other girls. But that'll happen soon. Spoiler alert. So then Meredith and Whitney are out, or Heather and Whitney are outside and of course trying to figure out how they're going to get Meredith. And I love this because Ron was like, oh my God, she's freaking out that everyone's trying to come for her. Like, oh my God, everyone's coming for her. Cut to Heather and Whitney. How are we going to get married? How are we going to get this bitch? So Heather's like, Meredith made me a cappuccino. Women surprises me every day. I'm just learning so much about them. I mean, we're finally going deep, deep cappuccino.
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And this is actually a dig at Lisa, because last night in the sprinter van, Lisa's like, guys, I like, deep in my friendships. Like, I want depth hunt dimension with you. Like, I don't want to get it just from a pine tree. I want it from my sisters, too. Like, we always sit and talk about, like, you said this and you said that instead of actually talking about, like, who we are. And Heather's like, are you yelling at me right now? No, I'm saying it to the group. I'm saying that to the group. I want depth. I want Be deep. Come on, let's share, people.
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So Heather's like, I mean, have you ever asked Meredith if she knows how to make a cappuccino? And Whitney goes, what? But did she make it or did the machine make it? I was like, oh, my God. The woman can't even make you a cappuccino without you trying to come for her. What did you ever make? Did you ever design one piece of jewelry? You Alibaba. Shut up, Whitney. I know.
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This is like. And the thing is this. It's not like Meredith was going around saying, like, here's my special cappuccino with my. My family ingredient. Me and my sister would put our hands on the coffee beans, put them in the grinder. No, she's just like, who wants a cappuccino?
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I just got my breath really hot, and then I blew bubbles with a straw into the milk until it steamed. Would that be.
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Let me tell you something I want to say. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Ronnie, but now I'm a little fired up, which is to say that standing by that Keurig machine is not nothing. I think anyone who stood by one Keurig machine waiting for their single coffee has been like, oh, my God. I know it. Like, I know it's only 30 seconds, but it's probably the longest 30 seconds of your life. You're just watching it, the dribble coming out, and you're like, can you dribble any faster? And then you watch the white part come out. You're like, oh. And then you think it's done, and it's like. And it spits out some more. And, like, when is this over? And now she's done that six times. That's actually a good amount of commitment, and I applaud Ms. Marks.
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Yeah. So Whitney's like, well, last night was just all around frustrating for me. Well, yeah, because Lisa wants us to go deep, but she's the most shallow of the group. Yeah. We've been begging you to be vulnerable, and we've been begging to crack open your shallow shell of worldliness and materialistic things and be our friend. Oh, God. Yes. You've really been begging Lisa and Meredith to be your friends. Shut up. Who do you think is watching this show? We are watching this show, ma'. Am. And Heather's like, just be the hippie. You are touching the tree.
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I feel like I have sliced myself open and bled all over these guys for years. So this whole no one's being real and honest and raw turn like that judging your eye direction, like, that's crazy. Heather's been open and raw about, I think, for sure, her story with Mormonism, but it's also kind of like a. It's like a. Like, we don't really know much beyond that, if you really think about that. And we actually. They hinted at it this episode, really, for the first time, which is like, what's going on with her personal life, her dating life, how she, like, laughs it off or whatever. Like, she will tell you about her family trauma and she'll tell you about Mormonism, but it's other stuff is kind of closed off more than she, I think, would admit.
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She doesn't talk about anything personal. That's it. She doesn't. She's talked about the Mormonism thing, which she's branded. So now that's her thing. She's gonna write. She'll talk about anything that she can make money off of, but then she's not gonna talk about anything else. We don't know shit about Heather. Not that I'm complaining. So Whitney's like, let's be in the moment with each other and have fun. Like, where did that come from? Okay, so you. You don't like them when they're closed off, and now you don't like them when they say they want to be opened. You can't win with these two, you know? So then we go to Bronwyn, knocking on Mary's door, and she comes in with her, like, nice mommy voice. Like, mommy who just yelled at you last night, but is now going to be nice. She's like, oh, look at you, Mary. Your room's so clean and nice. Mary. Hi, Mary. Why does everybody talk to Mary like she's a child? Have you noticed that? It's so weird because whenever Mary comes into the room, they're like, hi, Mary, how are you? You slapped. Look at you. You got your himself dressed this morning.
A
Well, it's because of what we talked about on the last episode, which is that. Because ultimately Mary is like, a bit like, emotionally. Like there's. There's some stunting and there's. There's stuff in there that, like, we've, you know, Mary's gotten this edit as being the sage, one of the group and the most emotionally mature. And, you know, she definitely has that in her. But like, we forget Mary. Mary's a bit kooky and you kind of don't know where, what direction she's gonna go in any given day. So I think they just are like, let's just like, we've kind of figured out the way to deal with Mary and like the, the, the tones that she likes, you know, so she's like, your room is really nice. Like, what's going on?
B
It's just funny because they spend the rest of the episode being like, we all have to change how we are around Meredith to not set her off. But then whenever they're around Mary, they're like, hi, Mary. Too hot. Here you go, Mary. So, yeah, so Brahman comes in with that voice and she's like, hi. Mary goes, yeah. Well, she goes, mary, your room looks so clean and nice. And she's like, yeah, I don't sleep on the covers. I don't know who slept on those. So Mary just spends the entire vacation sleeping on top of the bed.
A
She was so funny. So Brahman's like, she's like, so how'd you sleep? She goes, not good. Remember it was me and Meredith last night, sitting out there talking, and you too. And like, everybody was kind of like went to their rooms. And after we went to bed last night, I didn't go to bed. I did not go to bed. She's like, what do you mean? Well, I'm brushing my teeth and I get these texts from Meredith and she says, are you still up? Can I, can I come upstairs? Do you want to come down here? She wants to talk to me. So I go down there and she was very clear that she feels nervous and that everyone's been talking about her since the plane. And she doesn't like what's been said and things have been lies. And she specifically said to me, what did you guys talk about at lunch yesterday?
B
I'm like, so, Mary, guess when is the full blown panic attack and freak out that she was having and what you just said.
A
I don't get where the, where the problem is so far. And also the one who seems to be freaking out is Bronwyn Samara's like, I mean, it's 2:30 in the morning and you want to know about what we talked about? Like, yeah, yeah.
B
Well, I just like to point out that Heather also asked Whitney what happened at that lunch. And it's not a big deal. Why is it a big deal now to ask what happened at the other scene. What'd you guys talk about in the other scene? Why is this so weird? I don't get it. And who is Bronwyn to be acting like somebody's friend and, like, stay up and we see a clip of them talking, and they're just, like, being calm, like, having a nice calm, like, in their pajamas conversation. And then she said, you want to come to my room to, like, finish our conversation? Or whatever. But what kind of friend is like, oh, okay, I'll come to your room to talk privately, off camera. Oh, you're insecure about tomorrow. And then the next day wake up and be like, oh, my God, Meredith is insecure. Disgusting. Can you believe that? Can you believe her? I mean, what a shitty fucking person, man. Bronwyn. Bronwyn is not a trustworthy person. I love that Bronwyn advocates for the LGBTQ community. I love that she, you know, plays all her performative cards correctly. But Bronwyn is an asshole and a terrible friend. And the best thing she ever said is at the end of this episode where she's like, well, I don't like untrustworthy people because I am an untrustworthy person. And I was like, well, at least you're self aware, which is more than I can say for a lot of people. But God damn, you're an.
A
I thought that was a really good moment, you know?
B
It was. I agree.
A
She's based, so she's like. They're both saying, like, this is so weird. Amir's like, yeah, because, like, why didn't she ask that when we were all out there before? And Bronwyn's like, yeah, because you were at lunch with me. And, like, why couldn't you say it to both of us? So I'm like, this is a. Like, what is this weird paranoia? She's trying to drum up paranoia. So Mary's going with it because I think it's like what you said in the last episode. Bronwyn came in with a certain energy, so Mary's kind of matching it. And Mary's like, I mean, well, she thought you were gonna tell her like you did. She goes, yeah, and I didn't. I just kind of danced around it. She goes, meredith and I have had an increasing problem where I think showing up Trip as a friend for Meredith is telling her things to be helpful to her. And I warned her that there was discussion after the plane ride and how. How much you drink. And I mentioned it to. To her that Britney was throwing up in her room on the yacht trip. And later, I heard that she responded as, someone thinks you're an alcoholic because they're throwing up on a boat trip. And they saw. And now I'm realizing Meredith is using me and the things that I say to get at the other woman. Well, I'm sorry, but last time I checked, you were the one who took Britney out shopping. And while Britney was being shady, you took all that information and you spun it out to be 10 times more venomous and toxic than what Britney said, and you gave it to all the women. And now you're accusing Meredith of doing the same thing that you already did on camera to Britney. And I think that right now Bronwyn is actually just kind of projecting, you know, because she knows this is exactly what she would do. She's accusing Meredith of. Act of. Of having these ulterior motives because those are the motives that she knows herself that are inside of her.
B
And she also was the one who was like, oh, yeah. And she says that Meredith is. Is always having epileptic. Epileptic seizures and all of that to start the fight with her and Meredith.
A
That's right.
B
You know, and this.
A
She came to me, exaggerated that.
B
Right. I came to this discussion after the plane ride about how much she'd have to drink. Okay, well, you're the one who started the stuff with her and other people. Why are you acting like your hands are clean? And then how is it helping her when you mentioned to her that Britney was throwing up in her room on the yacht trip? Because she just said, you know, I think I'm showing up as a friend for Meredith by telling her things to be helpful to her, like that Brittany was throwing up on our room on the yacht trip. How was that helpful to her? And later that was spun as. Somebody thinks you're an alcoholic, Bronwyn. You spun it as she was an alcoholic. Why else would you be saying, yeah, she's throwing up all the time in our room?
A
Well, Bronwyn, to be fair, Bronwyn, that Meredith approached her and said, I heard that Bronwyn was throwing up. And she said, yeah, she was throwing up. That's what she.
B
But they all saw. They all. I'm not even saying. But to argue with you, because I'm not even arguing with you. But she. We all knew that Brittany was throwing up that whole trip. Brittany was wasted that whole trip. Barfing and then drinking again. They were all giving her shit at the table. So if they were saying later, like, oh, my God, she's been throwing up. And Bronwyn said, oh, yeah, I'm her roommate. She's throwing up over and over again in the room. Like, she's just adding to the fire and now making it look like other people are throwing her under the bus. No, you were throwing Britney under the bus.
A
Yeah.
B
Just like you were throwing everybody else under the bus when you went to Meredith the first. Why are you the only one that gets to hear things and go tell the other ladies?
A
That's the other thing is that, like, she's really mad that she had a conversation with Meredith, and then Meredith went and, like, outed part of that conversation at the group lunch at Vaulters. But now here she is doing the same thing back to Meredith the very next morning. Love. Brahman's great. I think Brahman's a great Real Housewife. I really enjoy her quite a bit. But I do think that, like, she has. She doesn't really realize her role and her hypocritical nature on these things. Maybe she does, because at the end of the episode, she does sort of have an epiphany. But, like, I do feel like. Like she is really blowing this. Blowing this thing up. And she's really throwing Meredith under the bus for something that I think is really benign.
B
And she's mad. It's like she's mad at Meredith for coming to her room. That's so weird. Why would you go to somebody else and complain that Meredith came to your room? It's just bizarre. Like, later, she fights with merit. Like, now she's. She forces a fight with Meredith right where she's going to make it like, well, I'm going to fight with Meredith, so now I'm going to betray her. But before that, it's like, why are you going to somebody else and talking shit about her and saying, wow, I have this problem where I think I'm showing up as a friend. And then she's, like, making me look bad. You're the one who's doing it. Like, do you not see? It's so frustrating. It's so fucking frustrating.
A
I think that this must be, like.
B
She makes me crazy.
A
She must be reliving the trauma of everything that happened when she was 20, right?
B
Oh, for people that were.
A
The people that were. Well, no, I'm not saying that she's relying on that. I'm saying that it seems obvious to me that she's reliving that pattern where the people that were supposed to be taking care of her, the people. People that were supposed to be good to her were not good to her. And I think that she's trying to get ahead of it this time. Like, you're not going to get me. And so what she's doing, though, is she's really sabotaging these relationships as a result.
B
Yeah, she's. So Mary's like, well, it's not right for her to do that. She's wrong. It's not right for her to do what? To go to her room and say she's scared about the next day. So Mary's like, well, we've been friends for years, and I've seen her change, and she doesn't want to hear anything, and she feels like she's being attacked, and she feels paranoid. You're literally sitting around talking about her for the fifth day in a row. Yeah, she is being attacked. You are all coming for her. And she's like, when you don't talk and you bottle things up and you shut down, like Meredith's doing, it comes across as she's breaking down. And it's very. It's very alarming. It's very, very alarming.
A
But at the same time, is Meredith bottling things up? She's. She's blown off the handle, like, 10 different times. Like, if. If this is bottling up, I. I would love to see what letting off the steam is.
B
Yeah, they want her to say that her husband's cheating on her is what they want. If Meredith doesn't come to them and say, seth is cheating on me, and I'm very upset, they're not going to be happy.
A
That's correct. That is correct. So now outside, Meredith is just, like, on this, like, balcony or a deck.
B
Or something, exhausted from making six cappuccinos in a Keurig, very slow.
A
So Ron comes up, comes up and joins her, and she's like, hey, are you working on something? She's like, no, come on up. I'm just chilling out a little bit. She's like, okay, well, I wanted to chat with you, and I want to make sure I'm not reading into something weird. I thought you and I had a little bit of an. An uncomfortable conversation, and I think I might be overthinking it, but I felt like you are asking me, like, what was said at lunch.
B
I did not ask you that. No, I did.
A
Okay, well, you didn't ask me what was said at lunch. You didn't.
B
No, I did not.
A
You asked me what happened at lunch, and who did. Who and. And who did you talk about? Okay, that is not true, Meredith.
B
It is not true.
A
What Bronwyn is failing to realize is that she's falling into a Meredith Max Marx trap. Which is that Meredith, as she says later on, was, I didn't ask, I stated it. Which is, this is where Meredith gets into trouble also because she does. She does use semantics against these women all these time. All the time. And it's hilarious because we as the viewers know, okay, what Meredith is really saying is, I didn't ask it, but I did say say it. And unless you get it exactly right, you don't. You're not gonna get it. She's like Jeopardy. Like, could you please be more specific? But it is a difference is the airplane. You don't get the. The credit for winning the. The clue.
B
Right. But it. There is a difference in intent in asking and saying. If Meredith went to the. If Meredith said, come to my room, what did they say at lunch?
A
What did they.
B
That's different than her coming to the room and saying, you know, I'm just insecure about tomorrow. I mean, there's all this stuff going on. You guys. You guys went to lunch. You were probably talking about me. There's all this shit going. They're constantly coming for me, you know, and then Bronwyn takes that and is like, makes it sound like Meredith is saying, what did they say? Tell me everything that happened at lunch. I mean, those are two different things, you know? So, I mean, look, obviously I'm gonna be team Meredith because I think it's just shitty of Bronwyn for somebody to say, I'm feeling really insecure, you know, for all the people saying. And the people in this cast is who I'm talking about. But the people in this cast constantly saying, Meredith isn't vulnerable. Meredith never shows her face. Feelings for Meredith to invite somebody to her room and be like, I'm really scared for tomorrow. I'm really worried that everybody's going to be coming for me. I don't know what to do in this situation. Like, what do I do? Like, everybody. I feel like everybody's after me all the time. So for you to have that conversation and open yourself and be vulnerable and then have that person the very next day wait until there's a camera there and then make the whole thing about. Well, you came to my room and you made me extremely uncomfortable when you asked me what happened.
A
I just.
B
That's just a shitty, shitty thing to do to somebody. Funny, I think.
A
Yeah. That being said, I do think that, like, Meredith marks, like, sometimes she needs to. She needs to work on her soft skills a little bit because her. Her go to thing is to be like, you know, is to have this semantics argument. And what happens is that, like, they wind up arguing about the semantics and then they don't actually get to the. To the core of it. And maybe that's the point. Maybe she wants to make it an argument about semantics, but, like, she needs. Meredith needs to work on diffusing people better. She's really not good at it. And what she does is she gives energy that gets them actually more riled up. So she needs to kind of, like, learn how to be like, oh, yeah, you know, I was con. I was concerned. But I'm. I'm. I feel better today now, and I appreciate you coming to talk to me.
B
She needs to take a page from Ron One's book, actually, which is to say, yeah, you're right. I did do that. That made you uncomfortable. Sorry. I'm so sorry. Because then they move on, you know, Bronwyn's like, admits to anything and then it moves on, you know, and they never talk about it again.
A
But she's, like, a little bit stuck in lawyer mode. I have a. I have a friend who I play board games with, and he's a lawyer, and when we play board games, sometimes he just really gets into lawyer mode. And like, he. He does things that just will rub me the wrong way. And he's like. He's in, like, he'll do moves in the game and he's entitled to do it. But what he doesn't realize is that, like, on a social level, he's driving me nuts. And it's like, if he just stepped out of lawyer mode in that way, he doesn't have to for the game. You know, he's playing the game properly, but what he's doing is he's. He's sort of failing on the social game a little bit. And I think Meredith doesn't realize that, like, the legalese and the semantics, like, she. She may win arguments, but, like, she would actually be more successful at getting some of these women off of her back if she sort of spoke their language a little bit more and just like, gave. Gave. If she sort of BS a bit more. Honestly, she just needs to BS more because they speak in BS language, you know, and just give them some nuggets and mollify them and then she can get them off their back.
B
Yeah, I think so. In general, I think that's true about Meredith. But in this case, I am seeing more Bronwyn lies and Bronwyn misdirects coming out. Then I do Meredith deflections and this is why. So Bronwyn's like, well, I'm gooped, I'm gagged. I just can't believe her. I'm befuddled. She's gonna make me look like I'm crazy. This is some fucking foolery. I'm not gonna deal with it. So then we come back to them and Bronwyn's like, well, this bums me out. She goes, well, I don't agree with you and I'm not gonna agree to something that didn't happen. And she goes, but you did ask about the lunch. She goes, I didn't ask. And she goes, okay, you didn't ask. And she goes, okay, well you said I'm nervous. She says, you said I'm nervous about tonight, I don't know what's coming. And I said, well, I don't either. So Bronwyn saying, okay, you didn't ask me, but we still talked about. You see, Bronwyn has a way of like flipping things in conversations to make you look like you were doing one thing when you were really doing something else to make you look worse in this conversation. And she's doing it on camera. And Meredith has done this a long time and she's also been fucked up over by Bronwyn multiple times. I don't know why the hell she would go to Bronwyn with anything, you know, when she knows Bronwy's not going to have her back. But yeah, so I'm not really believing Bronwyn with this whole thing. I think Bronwyn has decided she needs to do something this season because she's not really in in it a lot with the ladies and she's going to jump on the anti Meredith train because it's just easier and she wants to stay with the popular kids and finally be invited to that popular kids table. And if she can get rid of Meredith and Lisa, then she'll be, you know, she'll be with Heather and Whitney and she'll be better off.
A
So Meredith says, well, I don't know why. Meredith goes, well, I don't know why. Brahman is saying, I asked her for information about the lunch because that didn't happen. She was very, very anxious about the play. And I just texted her so I could comfort her and say that if you talked about something that was contentious, that's probably what will be there so that she could maybe have some peace of mind, having a clue as to what that might be. I'm just Meredith. Mark's peace of mind give her. Everyone knows I Just lay your head right here on my chest and let me soothe. Say to sleep. Okay. I was just trying to be nice and that's it. I just wanted to brush her crazy rich Asians. Just trying to make people feel good about themselves.
B
I just wanted to brush her hair, tell her what a good girl she's been, and if she had anything at lunch she needed to get off her shelves. Because I don't. I think Meredith is kind of full of here too. I mean, listen, if you're in the room you're talking to about being insecure and all that, you didn't just say, well, good luck. Just.
A
Yeah, you were talking to, like, Meredith is not the most reliable narrator either. Like, let's not fully. Just like, let's. Let's not fully take the, you know, like a. Whatever the metaphor.
B
No, look, I'm not saying Meredith is completely innocent in every conversation. I think she could deal with a lot of this better. But I think this with the ladies has been non stop with Meredith. And I think it's really low when Bronwyn knows this and she goes to Meredith and acts like, oh, I'm gonna be here for you off camera, and then comes to flip it right in her face just to start a fight and have something in the seat. I just think it's shitty. And I think Meredith knows exactly what she's doing and she's not gonna give it to her, you know? So while I don't believe that Meredith didn't say anything in that bedroom, I just don't think it's Bronwyn's business to be like, trying to throw it in her face today and making her look like a villain. I just think it's. It's not cool. But, yeah, I mean, of course Meredith is like, let's gossip.
A
I mean, like, Meredith. Meredith is, you know, she's like, oh, I was just trying to be nice. Just trying to, like, dole out the love. So she goes, okay, well, what is it that you want from me? She goes, well, no, I'm passionate now because I'm really irritated and I'm really hurt. Meredith, I was the lone person standing up for you outside the plane. Even Lisa said stuff about you. And Meredith is like, okay, Bronwyn, thank you for standing up for me.
B
Thank you very much.
A
Just. Well, I feel like you're working me, and I feel like you're. You've used me. And I feel like what you want when. When you want something from me, you think I'm like a pokey little puppy who's just gonna like run behind you and like tell you shit. And then you do use it against me because I'll tell you what things that I care about you and I support you deeply. And you used me and you sold me out and I don't care who the fuck you're going to use next.
B
Can we just pause in the middle of this? Can we just pause in the middle of this 20 page monologue? First of all, you know she did betray you in the thing where you had said something. God, what was it? She had said something about someone and. And Meredith was like, bronwyn, you know.
A
That was a thing. There's lunch when, when she was like, well, I have her and that people think that I'm abusing pills. Bronwyn. Because Bronwyn told her that that's what Whitney was saying.
B
Right? But Bronwyn is acting like she was being so supportive. She was not being supportive at that lunch with Whitney. She was like, yeah, sounds like Meredith has a fucking problem. And then she goes to Meredith and she's like, they were saying you had a problem. So how are you going to tell somebody that and expect them not to say it? Is one thing. Okay? She has the right to say that if you're telling her somebody. But anyway, you are right that she betrayed you on that because she did call you out. But this last one with Brittany, she didn't call you out. She purposely didn't call you out. She left you out of it. So why are you acting like she also turned that on you? Just because it was obvious. It was. It was obvious that it must have been you. Sure. But she didn't. She didn't call you out. I don't know. Bronwood's acting like such a victim. Like Meredith is always coming for Bronwyn and tricking Bronwyn into doing her. It's like the Lisa Vanderpump thing. We're like, oh, my God, Lisa Vanderpump makes me do things and I'm not gonna be stupid anymore. Like, yeah, are you really that dumb that somebody is going to make you do something? So she's like, you sold me out. And I don't know who the. Who you're gonna use next because there's no one else. There's no one else, Meredith. And you asked me for. You asked me to come to you off camera. Well, that. Meredith. Are you lying right now or do you not remember? Or are you gaslighting the out of me? Because it's one of those options, Meredith.
A
None of the above problem. And I don't like your accusations. Well, you know what? I know you said it, and that's good enough for me. I was a good fucking friend to you. Well, except for the fact that I just sold you out to marry and other people. But good luck with your other. The other bitches, because they don't have your fucking back like I did and I didn't. And I don't either anymore. Fuck it. Like, wait, I just. Were you like, the good fucking friend of merit?
B
Exactly.
A
Just had your first conversation three episodes ago, I'm pretty sure.
B
Please show me the clips of Bronwyn sticking up for Meredith ever. I've never seen that happen. When did it happen? She's ridiculous. And also, why is it so bad if Meredith said what happened at lunch? Why. Why is that something to be yelling about right now? It's crazy. So she gets up and walks away and she's like, has lies. You know, like Bronwyn does when she gets mad for no reason. She's like, I'm furious. Now I'm gonna make it the whole episode. So Meredith's like, well, I'm gonna bill you for some lies. Can someone threaten?
A
So now it's time to go. Everyone's getting dressed to go see the cousin. And they get in the sprinter van. And that Angie's saying, how the. How the. The cousin's, like, super excited to see them. And Angie's like, is Meredith here? Oh, you're so quiet. I was like, are we missing her? She's like, no, I'm being quiet in the corner. As per my responsibilities as a legal consultant for this show, I am council. I'm in the corner. So Whitney's like, like, oh, come on, what's wrong? Like, I literally don't understand how we go from waking up this morning, she's really happy to serapis and miserable. Well, Whitney's making it sound like Meredith is just having a mood swing. She was literally just attacked by Bronwyn. Bronwyn accused her of being like, in disingenuine. And on top of that, like, aired out private conversation that happened off camera. On camera. So Meredith is like these. And I know that tonight's. Tonight's gonna be a show. And I'm over it. I made them all coffee and. And Whitney's acting like, like, oh, wow, look at her on drugs, having a mood swing.
B
Yeah. And Angie's like, guys, please have some impulse control in Greece. This is Greece. And my cousin is so excited to meet you all. Let's make it a Positive experience. And Lisa's like, is this what we wear to me cousin? Is this, like, cousin meeting attire? Your nipples are showing. It's like, I am out of clothes. I'm out of clothes. So Angie almost falls down these stairs, because, of course, there's a lot of stairs to this place. And she's like, oh, my God, my life keeps flashing before my eyes. It's all Greek letters. I've got to up the life insurance policy at the rate I'm going.
A
So then they said they hug Mihaelis and their. They're have nice lunch and everything. And she said that, like, her cousin immediately jumped on a ferry to go meet them for lunch as soon as she said she was coming to Greece. And he starts talking about, like, the grandfather and how he was born 1890, and talking about the war and how they were affected and everything. And then he, like, left from Crete to go to the United States, and. Because there were a lot of jobs and mines and that attracted a lot of Greece to the region.
B
And so Andrew's like, well, that's great to know all of that stuff about the mines, but you know what? I don't know anything about my mother. You knew my mother, right, Cousin? And he's like, mm, okay, well, I asked if he remembered my mom, but you do, right? Because I don't know any stories of my mom. And he's like, I knew your mom. I was like, damn. So, okay, well, cousin's not going to help with any stories about cousin hated your mom. Okay, Just gonna put it out there so he have nothing to say. She's like, I would just like one story about my mom. He's like, she didn't pay the tab. Last time we went to dinner, I had to pay her tab. Like, come on, man, give me something. So she talks about how she doesn't have any of her dad, her mom's stories because her mom passed away so long ago. And he's like, well, I can take you to her town or whatever. And she wants to take Elektra to that side of. She wants Electra to see that side because, you know, Electra only cares about her horse side of the family. And so we've got to change that.
A
Yeah. So after lunch, they get back in the sprinter van, and Angie's like, I knew he was just gonna be eating you guys up and just loving it. So Meredith is, like, muttering to Lisa. She's like, well, I don't even know why I'm here. It's not a big deal. But, like, why Am I even here in a sprinter van? I've got a toddler and a home that needs to be fed. Wiping salad. Heather's like. So Heather starts talking to Bronw.
B
And honestly, I have to say, this is where Meredith. This is where Meredith loses me all the time. That. This attitude of, like, well, I guess I'm just not ever gonna speak. It's like, oh, my God. Like, you need to, like, have the st. The. The energy. You start off in the morning where you make people cappuccinos and acting like nothing bothers you. You need to keep that energy.
A
Yeah, she. Because it never works on housewives when someone's like, fine, you're gonna be mean to me. I'm just gonna be here in the corner. We look out the window. They hate that. They hate. Most people actually hate that. So then brown. So Heather, meanwhile, is, you know, having a conversation with Bronwyn extra loud, like, are you okay, Bronwyn? What happened? Please speak up for the van. Bronwyn's like, well, I mean, I'll say it. After we all went to bed last night, Meredith texted me and said she wanted to talk. And there was something that was said in the conversation that I feel uncomfortable about. And Meredith said it to me. Said it to me. That's been a lot for weeks. You know, I felt targeted, and lies have been said about me. And what did you guys talk about at lunch? And it's like, I. I, again, just don't think this is crazy. So Meredith is like. And this is where we have a sticking point, because Ron Win thinks I was pumping her for information.
B
And I wouldn't have said something if it was the first time. I wouldn't have. And Heather goes, well, were you pumping her? She's like, no, I was not. I was not. Well, she did. She started to try, in my opinion, to gaslight the out of me. And that's. That's the nicest way I can say that. That's the nicest way.
A
I am so tired of this. This is a load of. Oh, my God.
B
Well, you did ask me questions. You wanted me to tell you about it. So she's like. And then she said I was lying about that conversation and saying, I didn't say that. She goes, well, I. I didn't ask. I made a statement about the launch.
A
And Brom was like, well. And I said, I'm not fucking dealing with Ms. Marks, Esquire. I'm trying to deal with a friend. I want to be friends with you. I've stood up for you. At some point, sometime. I don't know really when. And I've fucked other relationships for you, which is on me. I fucked up a relationship with Whitney Rose. The most important relationship someone could have, and that's on me. But how much more do I have to bleed out for you before you stop fucking with me with other people? And I'm exactly right. And you're quiet for once without any legalese behind it because you know it's true. It. Meredith.
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I was like, damn, so annoying.
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I mean, I thought it was a really good monologue. I may not have agreed with it, but I was like, as monologues go, that was a good one.
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It's just typical Bronwyn, like, getting yourself all worked up to be mad over nothing. Like, okay, so you're mad because she asked you what happened at lunch. Okay, congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.
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Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, She's a Daniella Etchells. We never miss her call. It's Diane Call Sunday in the park with Dylan Clark. Big yay. It's Emily Gaultier.
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Let's get real with Caitlin o'. Neal.
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Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily sides.
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Who, what, why, where? And Gwen. Gwen Pentland.
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Watch What Crappens – Episode #3148 RHOSLC S6E16 Part 1: Going, Going, Antigone
Date: January 7, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
This episode, Ben and Ronnie break down the season finale of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season 6 ("Sisters of Salt: A Greek Tragedy"). The discussion revolves around RHOSLC’s unique approach to finales, the dynamics of cast relationships (especially recent drama surrounding Meredith and Bronwyn), and the continuing trend of “produced” Housewives moments. The hosts relish and rib the episode’s centerpiece: a Greek tragedy performed about the cast—serving both as meta-theater and reality farce. The episode also features signature banter, deep dives into character motivations and behavior, and plenty of over-the-top impressions.
“Salt Lake City is community theater housewives. Even their best season finale was totally scripted by Heather for the entire season. And I love it.” (12:31)
Ben is more cautious, worried about reality TV “self-parody”:
“Just let season four be season four. Let's cap it with this Greek tragedy and let's, like, come back down to earth a little bit.” (11:21)
“Here we just. We only award Tony Shalhoub over and over again.” (19:39)
“You may not know this, but I am actually the first ever regard, which is Greek Emmy, Greek Grammy, Greek Tony Award winner.” (18:55)
“Aren't you allowed to lose it and... then you go to sleep and you chill out and you wake up the next morning, you feel better?” (22:50)
“This is Bronwyn totally using words again to go off on somebody.” (23:35)
“Bronwyn is an asshole and a terrible friend.” (32:06)
“What Bronwyn is failing to realize is that she's falling into a Meredith Marks trap... She does use semantics against these women all the time.” (39:58)
"You've used me and you sold me out and I don't care who the fuck you're going to use next." (48:21)
The hosts mock how Bronwyn sets herself up as a perpetual victim who quickly becomes the aggressor once she seeks airtime.
Ben and Ronnie’s tone is comedic, self-aware, and deeply affectionate towards the genre—even as they eviscerate cast members’ logic and behavior. They exaggerate voices and mannerisms for comic effect and frequently break the fourth wall to address reality TV conventions.
This episode encapsulates Watch What Crappens at its best: a loving but mercilessly funny recap of a highly-produced, performative Housewives finale. The hosts celebrate both the absurdity and the real emotional stakes of the RHOSLC cast, question Bravo’s push for “internet-breaking” content, and deliver character insight with side-splitting commentary. If you love Bravo, theater, or just reality TV breakdowns that are as camp as the shows themselves, this is an essential listen.