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Amanda
What happens when there's so much that happens? When there's so much that happens? Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.
Sutton
So Amanda's saying, well, yeah, I mean, that's like a strong phase. But, like, if it's true, then maybe you shouldn't say that about the father of your children. And Sutton agrees. Yeah, I'd agree. Or the lady who lives on a main road, you know, somewhat in a better neighborhood than you shouldn't say that about those people either. And Jennifer says, well, I think the.
Jennifer
Thing is that if she's talking about it among friends and we're going to give her advice, then that's just what women do when we break up. I mean, you're not supposed to say, my husband's an alcoholic. I mean, when are you. Who. Who can you say it to if you can't say it to your friends?
Sutton
Which I also agree. Like, if you're going through a divorce with someone that's an alcoholic, it's like, you don't have to foot around it. It's like, just say. Saying, like, I'm an alcoholic doesn't give you free reign to just ruin everybody else's lives and have them not comment on it as well.
Amanda
Like, like, at the risk of being, like, a little sort of blunt about something like this, like, isn't part of the recovery process, like, the apologies, the making the amends. And so, like, you know, if. If he is grappling with this and dealing with this, there probably has been some damage along the way leading up to this, and Dorit has probably dealt with it. And now he's being like, well, that's crazy. I mean, how could she call me that? That's ridiculous. It's like, sir, like, her calling you that is probably much less significant than the damage she probably received on. On the other end. And I'm not trying to be like, oh, he's a sucky person, because he has, you know, you know, an issue. Alcoholism. It's not that, but it's like, it's like she pr. If this is like, she probably had to deal with a lot worse than you having to deal with her just saying that on tv.
Sutton
Right? You had to deal with her saying you're an alcoholic, but she had to deal with you being an alcoholic.
Amanda
In other words, Exactly.
Sutton
So, Jennifer, well, what did you think of Erica?
Jennifer
Have you ever met one on one or hung out with her or anything like that?
Sutton
And Amanda's.
Dorit
Give me something to work with here.
Sutton
Yeah, well. Yeah, well, I ordered a mocktail. Like, how do I say this? It's, like, so difficult when you're gluten free and extremely rich. But she said, mocktail, boring. Don't be boring. So that was kind of loud and interesting to say to somebody that you don't know. And then later, I was saying that I have two babies who are cancers. And she said, well, you know what you do with cancers? You cut them out and, like, get rid of them and leave them on the floor because cancer is terrible, and everybody agrees. So I thought that was kind of harsh to say about kids. I mean, God, to a rich person. She said that about very wealthy children. So.
Amanda
And then we see the flashback to.
Dorit
Erica saying cancers can be either highly emotional or kind of like mean.
Amanda
And Amanda's like, yeah, anger is an emotion, though. And Erica's like, whatever.
Dorit
Yeah, it's an emotion. It's an emotion.
Amanda
So Amanda, we come back to president. Amanda's like. So I was like, okay, I think I got you something. That was meant to intimidate me. Didn't intimidate me.
Dorit
So you think that she meant to intimidate you, but by that.
Amanda
And she's like, yeah, because that was, like, the way she said mean. She basically was like, trying to be like, my kids are gonna grow up to be mean. And I was like, I'm not intimidated by at all.
Sutton
Oh, God. You're bullied by astrological, you know, astrological sign qualities. Amanda, you're not made for this group. And that was Erica being nice, which I think everybody's like, what? That was Erica being mean to you.
Amanda
Oh, just you wait. Just you wait. Also, Amanda, that was your chance when. When Erica said boring. That was your chance to say, really? You're the one calling something boring, Erica. Jane. So Jennifer tells us Amanda might be.
Dorit
In for a reawakening if she thinks those comments were hurtful, because Erica can give back as good as she can. She gets. She's sort of like. She's like a Catherine wheel that's attached to a car, and you're just driving down the highway and the sparks are going everywhere, and your car just explodes.
Sutton
And Amanda's like, yeah, that was an exchange that could have gotten me, like, really offended at her. But, like, instead I felt like I got her in that moment. So, like, it was okay because I Got her. Because I was like, anger is an emotion, guys. Wasn't that good? Wasn't that really good, you guys? I'm not really understanding any of her points, I have to say. And Sutton's like, well, there is not. There's no way that you got Erica in that moment. So don't think for two seconds that you got her in that moment.
Amanda
I know. They showed this moment, like, a few times. Like, they've. They've been promoting it all week. Like, this is actually for, like, two weeks. I mean, it's been forever since the show's been on the air. And they're like, when you. When we come back from break, Sutton is going to tell Amanda's, you did not get her. And I thought it was going to be something like. Like, oh, Amanda kind of gave it back to Erica. And Sun's like, oh, you think you got her? Got one over on her, but you didn't. But actually, I think the context was, you think you understand Erica, but you don't. And how dare you assume that you know Erica Jane the way we know her? Like, that was my take.
Sutton
Oh.
Amanda
Which was.
Sutton
I took it as her saying, like, oh, girl, you think you got Erica? Wait, because she's gonna rip you right up and down the center. You know, you know nothing about her, but, yeah, I can see.
Amanda
Well, either way, it's like, yeah, I.
Sutton
Can see you're right.
Amanda
I don't know. Either way, I thought it was anticlimactic.
Sutton
Yeah, it was.
Amanda
I thought about all the ways it could be, and I was like, oh, that wasn't as good.
Sutton
The best part was Jennifer going, okay, Reba. Like, oh, Jennifer is coming for Sutton in little ways, you know, And Sutton feels it. She's like, oh. So then we go to Amanda and her confessional, and she's like, I mean, I don't know why Sutton's reacting so strongly. I mean, I just said I had a negative reaction with Erica and, like, positively turned it into a positive one. So, like, clearly, Erica's a trigger for Sutton. So whatever she's putting out there right now has more to do with Erica than me. I'm ratchet.
Amanda
I didn't. I didn't get the sense that she turned it into a positive. I just got the sense that Erica tried to make a joke and you tried to make it a thing, and it fell flat for.
Sutton
It's falling flat. I mean, Amanda has the quality you need where she's taking something that's not offensive and trying to turn it into something offensive, but you need that quality on this show. But she's. She's mis.
Amanda
Giving some Angel Massie vibes. I'm not going to lie. But. Cuz she's sort of bragging about stuff to people who are like, just don't care. And she also is. She thinks, she keeps on like do. Like she thinks she like just someone really badly. And she really didn't.
Sutton
But.
Amanda
But the fact is that she's getting under the skin of all these people. And she's not the hero that I want, but it's the one that we deserve.
Sutton
It's the one that we got. So Jennifer is like, wow.
Jennifer
A sudden silence descends upon the table. Well, I think that that's a good way to be.
Sutton
And so Carol comes out and she's like, all right, we got some tote BS One up.
Amanda
Yeah, you never leave my house without a prey. And so sounds like, oh, my gosh, there is so much stuff in here. Right? Amanda, is this what your gift bags look like? Or do you have to pay $3,000 to get a gift bag from you? Okay, okay, let's look what's in here. So they're all going.
Jennifer
I love stuff. Stuff is one of my favorite things. Stuffing and stuff on stuff and stuff and stuff and stuff and stuff. And stu stuff and stuff and stuff and stuff. These are a few of my favorite stuffs. I just love stuffs. Thank you for all the stuffs. I'll put them in my second home, which is next to my first home that I only use for parties. I didn't mean that as a brag.
Dorit
Sorry, Amanda. I know you actually use your two homes to live in.
Amanda
So now we go. Speaking of homes, we go to Erica's house where she's packing for Sedona with Liar.
Dorit
Oh, yeah, Sedona's gonna be hot. I need one of those sun hats, not one of those Kathy Hilton coffee filter. That's.
Amanda
And then we see Amanda, and she's packing up with her daughter. And Amanda's like, sutton's had to bring tennis shoes. So are we going to go Gucci or Louis Vuitton? Like New Balance. That means you're going to get. You're going hiking. Don't wear your Gucci or Louis Vuittons.
Sutton
Yeah, and her daughter picks the Louis. So she's like, oh, my God, you're such a helpful little Ritz girl. I'm so proud of you. And then we go to the private jet. Sutton's chartering a private jet. And there's a fruit plate. And Jennifer comes in and she's like.
Jennifer
Oh, Sedona, here we come. Oh, my gosh. A fruit. A fruit plate. I worry about the fruit flies.
Sutton
So it's just like.
Amanda
Fruit flies. Why would even. Why would you even invoke the name of fruit flies right now? You know, I just got rid of Avi. So then Jennifer is like, okay, cowboy.
Dorit
Beats a cowboy hat.
Amanda
And then Rachel comes on and she's like, oh, my God, like, look what I'm wearing. This is like sort of like a last minute, like, add on situation. Because I realized, like, wait, we're going to Sedona. I need to moisturize. I was like, caius, show me how to moisturize. I feel like you're like the moisturizing king of the household now. Show me. You're lifting me up right now. I could totally wear a cowboy hat as long as my hair is moisturized.
Sutton
Yeah, guys, it was like last minute, but I was like, guess what? Stop the presses. Everybody gather round. I'm bringing a cowboy hat.
Amanda
Yeah, my fashion inspo for Sedona was like dead, dead bananas dying in the sun. And you know what? Like, my bohemian self was like, let's do a little fringe. Let's do some captains. Let's do suede. Let's do Lubriderm. But here's the thing. Like, every single one of us did it different. She liked it. I love when she's like, here's the thing. We all did it different. Like Rachel Zoe's like, guys, this is crazy. We're all on a plane and we all wore different clothes.
Sutton
I'm Rachel Zoe.
Amanda
How? We wore different styles.
Sutton
Yeah, I'm Rachel Zoe. And this is my fashion breakdown for the plane. I was like, bohemian. I looked great. Suede, cowboy hat, last minute additions. Erica was like fun, like, travel clothes. She looked like a mom in a, in a, in a drive through. You know, like a pickup line. Mommy, pickup line. Kyle was in denim and turquoise. I mean, she even had on a, A turquoise watch and a turquoise Kelly bag. Now the Internet's going crazy because it was actually a Birkin and not a Kelly bag, but they're both are made. So all of you can fuck off. And then of course, Bose walks in like a queen. I mean, what am I going to say about her? I mean, feathers, Seriously. And then Amanda got on the plane with LV logos bigger than my head. And she really felt it. I said it. I said it. By the way, that was last minute edition. So I said, and we see Amanda. Amanda comes on the plane. I mean, when you can make dorit look tasteful and classy. That is saying something. She looks ridiculous. She's wearing LV printed everything. A hat, even a belt, a purse. I mean, she looks so lottery winner, you know? Like, she looks.
Amanda
Oh, she's just trying so hard. And so Rachel. This is like Rachel's. This is the equivalent of Rachel being as shady as she possibly can be. She goes, is this sedona? Probably not. Did she love it? Yeah. And that's like, her vibe. So really got her on that one. I was being so vulnerable right now. Being so vulnerable when I shaded her.
Sutton
So, guys, shocker. Dorit is not there. She's the only one not there. And Amanda's like, so Dorit's a late person and Carl's like, the amount of times that this has happened. And then we see. We don't actually see clips of her being late. I really wish that we. They really hate Teddy on this show because we should have had a Teddy waiting in that restaurant for dorit. That was the best Teddy moment ever when she gave it to for being late. And so we see the time passing. 1:15, 2:00pm, 2:15, 9:00pm she's like, oh, my God, you're not supposed to be late on a private jet because, like, you'll lose your airspace, you know? And, like, just think of it. If moisturizer sat on a private jet that was supposed to go on the moisturizer wouldn't have made it to my son and kais wouldn't have moisturized account.
Amanda
Yeah, Somewhere there's an alligator walking around waiting to be pet, and it can't be pat until it's been moisturized and we fly there on our jet. So then she finally arrives 90 minutes late, which is crazy. So at least that's like Lisa hoxtein levels.
Sutton
That is just so fucking rude. Dorit does it all the time. They should have left her ass. They should have left her. But of course. But it was difficult to have a woman. A woman going through divorce. You're always late. You're rude. And I would leave you. If I was your husband, I would leave you for this.
Amanda
It's called get on to American airlines. Fly to sky harbor in Phoenix. Get an uber and take yourself up to seona at this point. Okay, sorry. You missed it.
Dorit
You just.
Amanda
You missed it. Like, I feel like. Like. Like if you have all those people and. And Rachel, honestly, Rachel's right. You're gonna miss your slip. Like, you can't just, like, be waiting around. Just fly whenever you're gonna fly. Doesn't work that way. But she's like, well, I had a.
Dorit
Travel emergency between my mother and my child, and my child had the weight of the world on his shoulders, which caused the plane to be grounded. So until we took the weight off, we couldn't take. They could take off from Florida. So I'm an avalanche. But I made it. Isn't that what flying private is for, Mike?
Sutton
No. Flying private is not to sit on the tarmac waiting for you for an hour and a half. You just stole the luxury out of this whole thing, you stupid, stupid animal. How dare you? How dare you? You did, like, you crushed everyone else's luxury. The point of flying private is you show up in your car, you don't go through security, you jump on the plane, you're somewhere in an hour. You just ruined it for everybody, you asshol. And she's like, but I'm only an hour late. You're 90 minutes late. You're such a liar, dorit. You're such a liar. Okay, now I'm team Kyle being on team PK because. Because this is how to read acts. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a grappins commercial.
Amanda
I probably would not be on team dorit if I. If she were my actual friend because this. This sort of bullshit happens all the time. She probably sucks all the energy and all the life out of you. But I wouldn't pretend to be. I was team dorit. I would just be like, oh, so sorry to hear that. Okay, well, I guess we're not friends anymore. So then Sutton, they get in the air and Sutton is like, well, everyone, now that we're in the air, I thought I would tell you about our trip to sedona. So we're staying at the little daisy Amanda's like, oh, I say at the big daisy usually. So that's nice that we're staying at the little daisy, but I'm a big daisy girl.
Jennifer
Well, it's little daisy.
Sutton
And they pre selected our rooms and I made gift bags and I sent them ahead of. So you'll find your room by your gift bag. Okay, so just wander through hallways until you see bags with your name. Don't knock on doors because there are other people staying there, but just go up and down. There's about five floors. Just keep going. And then we have dinner tonight at the house. And so enjoy your champagne and your crudite, et cetera. Even some cheese for Jennifer, even though she's betrayed me about four times in this episode alone. And I'll see you when we land. Jennifer, please do not let your cheese gases get on anybody on my plane.
Jennifer
Okay?
Sutton
Thank you.
Amanda
So the 45 minute flight, which, by the way, this is what makes dorit's tardiness even worse, is that when it's a 45 minute flight to know that you've waited twice as long to take off as the flight actually is, it's so frustrating. Even though the overall time is about two hours. Two hours and change. To do the entire flight. Like, when, you know, when you have that feeling of like, oh, in just a heartbeat, I'll just be there and I get to go and live my sedona life. But then you're waiting there, you're like, you're ruining all the fun of this entire.
Sutton
So I'm telling you, she took the luxury and she took a poop on it. She took a massive, massive dong on dung. Yeah, she laid some dung on it.
Amanda
Yeah. Because if you have a transcon flight from like California to New York and you're 30 minutes or 45 minutes, even if you're 90 minutes delayed, which is always annoying. It's always annoying to have a 90 minute delay. Somehow it's like a little bit more doable because it's like it's gonna be five hours anyway. And you have this like, optimism. You tell yourself, we'll make up for it in the air. Like, we all tell ourselves that. Like, somehow we enter a warp speed and we're like, we'll make up for it. We'll make up for it in the air. It'll all be okay. But when it's just a 45 minute flight, like, if you're five minutes late, you're like, well, what's even the point? I could have driven. You know, you just get so mad. It's like you don't understand. Like, they'll. The delay, the proportion of delay to the actual flight will make you go batty to read.
Sutton
Yeah, you're right.
Amanda
Dorit stole the luxury.
Sutton
Fucking dorit, man. Okay, so they get there and it's gorgeous. I mean, it is gorgeous.
Amanda
I want to go.
Sutton
It is so pretty. So they're talking about that and they split up into cars, and Kathy and Rachel are in a car together, and Rachel's doing her makeup and she puts it away and Kathy goes, can I be honest with you? What you just did, that does not look good. The under eye makeup. I mean, you made it lighter, but it's still showing. You look crazy. You look ridiculous. I'm sorry. Kyle's not Here to abuse. So you should fix that.
Amanda
Rachel. Rachel goes into a full panic. I don't know if you noticed the way that she went and started, like, adjusting her makeup. She, like, opens up her compact. She, like, oh, my God. Like, like, she was like, oh, my God, I didn't blend it well. Did I not moisturize? I knew I should moisturize. Okay, get. Kai's on the phone. He has such good IQ and iq. He's also good with moisturizer. Q. Oh, my God. I need help. This is terrible. Oh, my God.
Sutton
Oh, my God. Seriously, always be honest with me. I mean, like, maybe, you know, like, in a way that makes me not want to, like, literally be dead right now in a seat, but, like, I'm dead. Like, I'm so. I can't even move my arm to, like, fix my eye makeup. Wait, hold on. Do I have rigor mortis? Like, I have rigor mortis now. Oh, my God. Someone has to do my eye makeup for me. Please. So then, little Daisy, the hotel. So we get to this hotel. Very pretty.
Jennifer
Welcome.
Amanda
Welcome to the hotel. They're like, oh, my God, it's a little daisy.
Jennifer
Welcome to the tiny little baby Daisy. I hope you get all your wishes.
Amanda
Wait for a rainbow.
Jennifer
You can follow it to the end. There's a pot with some money in it.
Sutton
Amanda's like, yeah, I have one of those. Got one of those.
Amanda
So they arrive. It's this huge thing. And this guy Brian is like, welcome. Welcome to the little Daisy. So here's a fun fact. This used to be the residences for some miners that used to live. That used to work at the Little Daisy mines nearby. And they.
Sutton
Well, it's a hotel for children. I should have brought jigger. No, not. Not miners. Miners. People who worked in the mines.
Amanda
Good thing.
Sutton
People with jobs with the showers that they were in. Did they have free soups here back then? That's a horrible, horrible. Who booked this hotel? I did not ask to stay in a minimum wage to chill.
Amanda
Yes. Please welcome yourselves to the Little Daisy, former home to several hundred minors who develop black lung, earn 5 cents an hour, and had to spend months on end away from their families, just earned a wage. That way, someone in their family would go on to something better in their life. But now you rich ladies can come and live here. It's like the land like this was formerly a structure that probably housed a lot of suffering. Like, people who are miserable, who are like, oh, my God, I just had to go into a mine in Arizona. Let me tell you something. That's not going to be a cold mine. Maybe it could have been a cold mine, but the point is they're down there and then on top of it.
Sutton
By the way, was there no shelter for you to book for us?
Amanda
Who is the bastard that named that mine? Little daisy like that is the cruelty. Like, oh, guess what? You're gonna go down into the mines, but we're gonna call it the Little Daisy Mine because that'll make it better.
Sutton
They should have named it the Canary.
Amanda
They should have named it the Hot Stinky Saguaro because that's what it's gonna feel like when you're in there.
Sutton
They should have named it cough.
Amanda
So they should have named it no Sour cream in here. Daisy.
Sutton
So there were one hundred and sixty miners that lived here at one time. And Kathy goes, where are they now? And he's like, oh, they're, they're gone now.
Jennifer
And Erica goes, they're dead, Kathy. They're gone. They're dead. They were minors. They live to be 22, tops. Come on, Kathy. Jesus Christ.
Dorit
And now we've turned their suffering into a five star luxury experience.
Jennifer
Okay, everyone, I'm getting a massage. Funny thing, Tom won a lot of money on these miners lawsuits and then he bought me a goddamn plane. That's right. And I'm not sorry for one second.
Amanda
Down the hall is a room that they used to treat the miners who develop black lung and spend the last days of their lives suffering in extreme pain. And that is now our unique day spa where you get a lovely massage and we have a steam room and some exfoliation pools.
Sutton
By the way, we hope you can all make it to breakfast. We will be serving black pancakes. Okay, see you in the morning. So the women go find their rooms and there's different buildings. They actually all get different houses, which is cool. And so they see their houses and their hostess is like, okay, Kathy, you'll be staying in the geologist's house. And she's like, the allergist house, the geologist. Oh, gorgeous. I love that. Not really sure what you geologist.
Amanda
Not sure I really follow that.
Sutton
Those are people that make drinks, right? That's a mixologist. Kathy, just go into your room. Go into your room.
Amanda
I think those are people who sell really small Chevrolets. No, that's. That's the Geo and that's discontinued.
Sutton
So Dorit gets a solo cottage because, let's face it, nobody wants to be with Dorit. So she gets her own. She's like, isn't cute. I haven't spent time alone in Sulu.
Amanda
I love to read the same episode where before she's like, now I finally.
Dorit
Have some alone time in the house, and I have nothing but anxiety 24 7.
Amanda
But now she's like, oh, finally get some alone time. You were just saying how you have alone time and you hate it, and now you're like, ah, finally some alone time away from my alone time.
Sutton
Jennifer is opening wine and telling Sutton.
Jennifer
Did you see the picture in the tabloids of Erica with that guy? He's hot. He's really. He seems like he's all guy. I'll bet he burps in his sleep. They call him Shrek. That's his nickname. That's supposed to be hot because Shrek was a very big movie star. He spent billions at the box office.
Dorit
But unfortunately, I just can't approve of this boyfriend, because unless I own a small percentage of a cartoon, I can't approve it. Sorry about that.
Sutton
Well, I would not be happy if someone called me Shrek. I don't like that name.
Amanda
So Kyle really did not take any lessons from that movie. So, yeah, Kyle and Erica are, like, lounging on their bed, and they're FaceTiming Kathy. And Kathy is, like. She's basically redoing all the linens in her bed in her bedroom, putting out. She has, like, a whole set of pillows that she's putting out on her bed. I love that. Notably, yeah.
Jennifer
Erica's like, well, she doesn't even know.
Sutton
How to answer a phone, so now they call Rachel instead. And Rachel's like, oh, my God, you guys, I'm so glad this call got through. I must have 5G in heaven, because I died. Like, literally dead. I don't have luggage, you guys. I FedExed it. You FedExed it? What kind of moron FedEx is it now? Listen, I get not wanting to carry it on the plane, but ups it. Don't FedEx it. FedEx sucks. Well, you know how much FedEx delivers to my neighbors? Literally everything FedEx sends me. They're the worst.
Amanda
FedEx is terrible. Well, she probably used FedEx ground, which is like, you might as well just be packing something on a passing mule and just say, like, get to New York somehow, because, well, I wanted to.
Sutton
Use FedEx ground because that's, like, literally where I live. Inside, I'm, like, in the ground, up.
Amanda
That's like.
Sutton
I'm like that. It's like, FedEx dead.
Amanda
Like, how do you juggle at all?
Sutton
FedEx six feet under.
Amanda
How do you juggle at all? Like, how do you do. And then FedEx says, I don't, I just don't know. But that is like FedEx ground. It's like literally everything. Every, anytime you get a tracking number from FedEx round, you just add 12 days to it because it'll literally say, approaching California. And it's like, still in Illinois. And you're like, what are you talking about? Like, you are lying to me. But also, like, FedEx. Like, I'm sure Rachel Zoe has a practice of FedExing her looks ahead of time, but girl, I mean, it's called, like, just have like a little carry on. Like, take like one bag, like an emergency bag on the plane. Like, you can do like one little away bag. Put it in the, put it in the bottom of the plane and let's have some option just in case.
Sutton
Yeah, well, she definitely learned her lesson today. So she's like, yeah, well, one of my best friends goes to Europe for, like six weeks with a carry, you know, a carry on. I mean, my shoes take a carry on. So I thought I'd ship it, but like, oh, God, I would have just taken it with me. Dead, dying, dead. I wonder what Kai's thinks about this right now.
Amanda
This is a really bad episode. So.
Sutton
But we're going to go on for three hours about it.
Amanda
I know. Three hours I've had Rachel Zoe, FedEx or clothes. So then Rachel's out, FedEx. Now she's, like, talking to her teams like, hey, team, anywhere from FedEx on my luggage. Or you know what? Why don't we call them Dead X. Because, like, I'm like, dead. I'm dead. And my ex is probably laughing at me right now.
Sutton
Lifex. Because I used to be alive before this experience.
Amanda
Moisturizer X. Sorry.
Sutton
So Amanda comes to Kyle's room and she's like, oh, my God, you brought nine pairs of shoes. I brought nine bags. Want to see how many purses I brought? I'm, like, insane with purses. I'm so rich. And Carl's like, yeah, I put more shoes under my bed.
Amanda
So again, normally this pattern drives me nuts. Like, I, I, I like the fact that they're just dedicating so much time talking about, like, their clothes. It drives me nuts. However, the upside here is that Amanda's driving them all nuts with her bragging, you know, when they're all extremely wealthy people and she's trying to, like, one up them all. So she's like, yeah, I brought like, one bag per outfit. So I went a little overboard. I'm like, okay, you're Yes, I appreciate that you're annoying all of them, but you're also kind of annoying me. So now we have an issue.
Sutton
Yeah. And she's just going over her label. She's like, so for hiking Chanel, but there's also a Chanel bag to hike in. I want to go on a Chanel hike. Like, can we get a mountain called Chanel? That's the only way I'll hike on it. So rich. And Kyle's like, oh, my God, I'm the most shallow person on this show, and even I'm disgusted by you. Kyle just has this look, like, rethinking everything. So then we go to Beau's room, and Nico's there, which I love. And she talks about her fertility journey, which. Not the time. Bose, did you not bring a purse?
Amanda
This is the time to talk about the looks that you brought. We've given you five minutes to discuss your. What your lunch look is going to be for tomorrow, what your dinner look is, what your height is going to be, what the look is going to be when you get into the pink jeep and drive around the cliffs. Like, I don't understand this. Quote unquote ivf. That's not a look.
Sutton
Yeah, IVF is not a luck. Okay? So they go to dinner or lunch, whatever they're doing, and they spend like 10 minutes going, oh, my God, you look amazing. Oh, my God, what are you even wearing? Oh, look at you. Slow motion. So we get that because it's Beverly Hills. And then we go to the table, and Amanda's like, oh, my God, this is like hot girl summer. Right, Rachel? And she's like, oh, my God. Like, hot girl does not mean literally hot. Like, have I been put in a microwave? I feel like a potato that's been put in a microwave for, like, 15 minutes. Like, I'm exploded, dad. I'm explode, dad.
Amanda
Like a dead potato. You know the game hot potato? What would happen if it was dead potato? Because that's who I am. I'm a hot potato that was dropped on the floor and then died. A dead hot potato.
Sutton
So there's crystals on the table. And Jennifer's like, crystals.
Jennifer
I feel enlightened already.
Sutton
And Dorit's like, oh, they have the prices in the bottom. And so Karl's like, are we supposed to shop while we're eating? Like, this is the best thing ever. I would shop in a gas station. I love to shop.
Amanda
That's my personality. I love to shop anywhere we go. So Amanda's like, yeah, I've spent $10,000 on crystals in one sitting before. Oh, my God. And they all just sudden just glares at her, like, not. Not embraced. Yeah.
Jennifer
And Erica goes, well, I've got a friend who spent more than a hundred thousand dollars on crystals. So what? And they're bigger, and there are only two of them in the world. So suck it.
Sutton
And Jennifer says, well, crystals are supposed.
Jennifer
To be, you know, a spiritual entity or something that enhances your life. So to say that you spent $10,000. I don't know. I'm trying to think of the.
Sutton
Right.
Jennifer
Where I'm not sure if crass is a very nice word. Tacky. Is that disgusting? That's not a good one. Growth. Should I settle on growth? Not really sure. Is she poor? Is that girl poor? I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say.
Amanda
I also kind of think that, like, they all could spend $10,000 on crystals, but they're like, they just choose not to. So, like her flexing that she spent 10,000 on crystals. I think that she. In her mind, she thinks, like, isn't this funny that I was, like, I was being so excessive just about stupid crystals. But they're all like, you're not impressing us with your disposable income. You're just showing that you made impulsive decisions. That's it. So something's like, okay, well.
Sutton
Well, it's like screenwriting, you know, it's like, don't say it. Show it. You know, this is Beverly Hills. You're supposed to show your wealth. You're not supposed to be like, I'm rich. You're supposed to show us that you're rich. You're not supposed to say it all the time. And when they do say it, it's.
Jennifer
Like, oh, well, you know, I just have it. I do have this house, which I actually really love, but I just wanted one to have parties in, so I got the one next door.
Sutton
I mean, you just need to, like, be nonchalant about it, you know, have someone there changing ribbons for you for no reason. That's how to look rich.
Amanda
Exactly. Stealth wealth. Quiet luxury. Although, actually, I think both those things are. What you just described is actually neither quiet luxury nor south wealth, but it is about, like, not saying it, implying it. Let people connect the dots.
Sutton
Because nonchalant in finance, you don't have to.
Amanda
You don't have to be the one. You just. You just sort let it show all over. So Sutton stands up, or she doesn't stand up, but she mentally stands up in my mind, and it goes. Thank you all for being here. I really want to use this time in Sedona to build good relationships that I can destroy in a few episodes. So for the five years that I've known y', all, I think a lot of my insecurities got in the way of how I interacted with you. You know, because I've had several insecurities in this group. One, I think, is that I'm not pretty enough. Two is that I'm not cool enough. Three is that I can never think of a third thing when they want me to do lists. So it's just hard or it's really.
Sutton
Stressful always knowing that Jennifer is expecting cheese. I forgot what we were talking about.
Amanda
Five is forgetting what I'm talking about when I get to the fourth thing on the list, when I somehow get to the third thing, which I rarely do in the first place.
Sutton
But I would like to put my insecurities in the past, and I would really like to embrace and introduce you to Sutton Brown, everybody. It's me, Sutton Brown. Sutton Brown. She's a fun girl, a good friend that. She's a girl. I want to be that with y', all, okay? Y' all want to hang out with Sutton Brown? Nobody wants to hang out with Sutton Brown. The fuck is Sutton Brown? Keep Sutton Strack, okay? It's a threatening name. You know, your initials are S.S. which isn't good. And you have kind of like a.
Amanda
Yes, it's not good.
Sutton
It's threatening. And you've got. But you've also got like, a playful name, like Set and Strike. You know, that's Sutton Brown, but also, don't like hits.
Amanda
Shrek is like. It's like if you have a comic book and like, her to slap you or, like, whip you or, like, like, smack you, it'd be extra. But Brown. Sudden Brown is. It's just Sutton Brown. It's like, ha. Welcome to bank of America. How can I help you? You know? Yeah, that is. It's just sort of almost pleasant.
Sutton
And I.
Amanda
And I, I, I. I want. I. I like the.
Dorit
The.
Sutton
It's just a simple Struck. It's the name you come to Hollywood with, not the one you leave with, you know, Sutton Brown. You come to Hollywood as Sutton Brown, and then you leave a Sutton Strike.
Amanda
Or Foster. So Bucky. So sudden. I don't know why. I just took a dig@sun.sun. sutton Foster. I literally have no.
Sutton
Did you say something? You don't say anything mean about her.
Amanda
I said, if you're unlucky I'm like, I think you'd actually be quite lucky to be Sutton Foster. I don't know why I did that. I'm sorry. Sutton Foster.
Sutton
Foster deserves it. That home wrecker. Okay.
Amanda
With that voice, that voice of hers that sings Sondheim pretty well, but not as well as some other people.
Sutton
You are no Patti LuPone, Sutton. Father.
Amanda
That's what I'm trying to get at. That's what I'm trying to get at.
Sutton
Yeah. I'm still mad at her for playing Reno Sweeney in Anything Goes, even though it was, like, 80 years later, and she totally had the right to do that. I was like, this isn't Patti LuPone, and I will not suffer for less.
Dorit
Okay?
Sutton
I will not. I will not settle. So then we. But she's been great in other things, especially the Hugh Grant debacle.
Amanda
Okay, she has a crazy photo.
Sutton
Not Hugh Grant.
Dorit
Hugh.
Sutton
What's his face? Wolfman.
Amanda
Jackman.
Sutton
Wolverine.
Amanda
Jackman.
Sutton
Jackman. Yeah, you.
Amanda
Jack.
Sutton
So what did you say? I was trying to think of who Hugh Grant isn't.
Amanda
Here's what I. Here's what you need to know, is that if you go on to Sutton Foster's Wikipedia page, she has a picture where she looks crazy. She looks like she just got, like, smacked by a girder that was hanging, dangling by a crane. And she's just trying to refocus. Like, she's, like her head's cocked to the side and looking off into the distance. She's like. What was that again? I'm sorry. I just got smacked by a girder by accident. Just trying to focus. Maybe I should go to the ER.
Sutton
She actually looks like Judy Garland in this photo, which is bizarre. I've never seen that before. But it's. Maybe it's this pose. Maybe it's just this, like, struck by a struck pose. I just got striked. You just got strike.
Amanda
Sutton Foster.
Sutton
You just got stracked. Okay, I'm gonna put this up so people can see it on.
Amanda
Yeah, I was about to say, this is a Crappin's On Demand exclusive. Look at that. Sutton Foster. This is. This is Gerder Face.
Sutton
Yeah.
Amanda
Okay. Look at that.
Sutton
Okay, so time.
Amanda
Sutton. Sutton's gonna. She's now going to explain that changing her name back to Brown, it's like a test drive to see if the name still fits or can fit to her current self and who she is growing to be. Sutton Brown. I'm going to say the answer is no, and she's going to go back to Shrek. So Erica's like, I think if you.
Dorit
Just show up consistently time after time, that can begin to build trust with people.
Amanda
And both, like, let's toast a Sutton Brown.
Sutton
May.
Amanda
May she remain true to herself for the rest of time. I'm still on this show.
Sutton
And to Amanda, our new air quote friend. I'm sorry, did I say air quotes? I'm supposed to be implied.
Amanda
Did I say the airport? That was Sunstrack speaking, not Sutton Brown. I apologize.
Sutton
And Amanda's like, thank you. I feel so welcomed. And so Bo's whispers to Sutton, she's like, oh, and also Rachel's our new friend. And she goes, yeah, but she's been here a minute.
Jennifer
I'm new.
Sutton
New.
Amanda
So then it cuts to Rachel being like. It's like. Cause Rachel's like, huh? Cause, like, Rachel's version of being like, what the fuck did you say? Is her sort of like, moving her head ever so slightly and look. Moving her eyeballs ever so slightly and going. That's like. That's like a Rachel Zoe takedown.
Sutton
Okay, well, Amanda, so we don't know a lot about you, but I do know that create digital courses online and you destroy perfectly good copycat floors for no reason. So what about that? How's that going for you? So actually, they're online training programs, so they're not courses. There are training programs. So I don't know if you've seen the font, but it was an expensive font on the website, so, yeah, pretty big deal.
Amanda
I'm sorry, I'm being backup Amanda to your Amanda because I'm my own backup chorus. Keep on going. Yeah, me back at me. We'll do. Just give you support.
Sutton
Okay, well, what kind of courses are they actually, again, they're online training programs, so. Okay, I'll just rephrase it to make it easier for you to understand. It's an online education and coaching business.
Jennifer
Okay.
Sutton
Yeah, go to Amanda Francis dot com. You sign up for whatever course you're interested in. You know, many are on financial empowerment, but some are on online selling. Different areas of running an online business. How to wash your sheets. You know, if they're color sheets, you don't want to wash them with blue jeans for. That was free. That was free. Yeah. Modules. We have modules. You guys ever heard of modules? Well, we've got them on numbers, on bonuses, every number. Yeah, Shipping, ups. That's a big one.
Amanda
Everything.
Sutton
Do you charge for ups? Is it for free? Do I even serve anything? Do I send you anything physical? I don't. It's all digital. It's a Course, it's an online training program. Of course I messed myself up.
Amanda
So. So it's digital, so you don't. Yeah, it's easy. Yeah. Amazing. You do amazing.
Sutton
Huge. Yeah, huge. It's online, so it's, like, everywhere. Like, online's a huge network.
Amanda
Yeah. Cyber Internet.
Sutton
And they're just, like, bored. It just shows, like, this big, long time lapse. She's never showing up. Sutton scrolling on her phone. And Kyle's like, huh. Huh. Bose is falling asleep. I have to say, though.
Amanda
Oh, sorry. I was just gonna say, I mean, maybe there's something to Amanda's manifestation powers. Because, you know, yesterday we were doing our Vanderpump rules recap, and we started talking about the Practice and Cameron Manheim, and we talked about it for a good three minutes on the show, and then we went to this cool party last night. And, you know, yes, we led with how we met the guy from Heated Rivalry. But what we didn't mention was that Dylan McDermott from the practice was there right behind us.
Sutton
We made that.
Amanda
We manifested. We did a cast member of the Practice.
Sutton
Thank you. Thank you. We did it.
Amanda
That's a great use of manifestation.
Sutton
Yeah, we got it. And we're dating now, so both of us. Both of us are dating him. Yeah. Yeah. And Cameron's gonna sing at our wedding. So Amanda's like, yeah. And we have an amount of Amanda Francis app. So that's a pretty big deal. We built an app. Yeah, we've got an app, guys. I've got an app. It's on the Internet.
Amanda
It's huge.
Sutton
So. And they're just like. It just cuts to Jennifer in the confessional, echoing screams. She's like.
Amanda
So then at some point, Kathy goes, that's great. And then Kyle starts to laugh and she goes. When Kathy says, that's great, it means she either wasn't listening to you or does anything understand anything you said? And then there's actually a montage of Kathy being like, was, like, dreezing.
Dorit
When the charity is called Homeless not Toothless.
Amanda
What is that called?
Dorit
What's Homeless not toothless.
Amanda
That's great.
Dorit
That's great. Yeah.
Sutton
Thank you. So now we go back to the rooftop and more food comes out, and there's a flourless chocolate cake. And Amanda's like, oh, my God. Flourless. That means I can eat it, right? Because I'm gluten free. I don't know if you guys know, but I'm gluten free. It's a big deal. It's a huge deal.
Amanda
Yeah. And Jennifer's like, okay, Erica, by the.
Dorit
Way, who is the guy in the paparazzi picture from the other day?
Amanda
And then it's, like, awkward. Like, someone asked Erica about something in her personal life. You know you can't do that, right? Like, what. What do we even say? What do we do? How do we help her? We have to cover for her.
Dorit
Who is the man? Well, we'll say it's Shrek, but we'll.
Amanda
Say it was the actual cartoon Shrek. She's actually casting the new Shrek.
Jennifer
That's it. That's it.
Dorit
She's in Shrek.
Amanda
Erica. She's being Shrek and Broadway. That's it.
Dorit
That's.
Amanda
That's what I'll tell everyone. We'll tell that to America.
Sutton
And Rachel's like, oh, my God. What do I. What did I miss this? Do I need to download truth social to find out who you're talking about? Or.
Amanda
What about dead social? Because I'm like, dead nothing social.
Sutton
And Dorit's like, well, what stood out to me most in the pictures is.
Jennifer
That Erica has not a stitch of makeup.
Sutton
I mean, she was totally dressed down, and the guy was wearing crooks.
Amanda
Crooks? What? Like, that's the thing that. That set out the most. It's not like this guy. It's like an ex army special ops guy named Shrek. Like, sort of like, that was a thing that was.
Sutton
Yeah. I mean, that was a pretty big thing because we see the picture, and I was like, holy mom. Acid wash jeans. What is happening in this picture? Who was that man? Why is he in Crocs? Who is this person?
Amanda
He's wearing a T shirt that says slaughter things. And, like. And Dorit's takeaway is, like, who?
Dorit
Erica was not in glam.
Amanda
I'm like, she wasn't glam. The guy she's with is wearing a T shirt that says slaughter things. And she just got out of a relationship with a guy who is, like, embroiled in a fraud scheme that was involved deaths of people.
Sutton
I mean, like, what I'm gonna. You know, look, I don't know a lot about this guy. I mean, I do. I know more than I need to know. I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say, gross. Okay? Gross. So Rachel's like, I mean, Crocs.
Jennifer
I don't know.
Sutton
Like, if they were burks, I would make out with them Berkshire chic.
Amanda
So, yeah, they're, like, so chic. And, like, you can moisturize them. I don't know if you know that.
Dorit
Brook is like, yeah, well, I met this man in London a month ago backstage at Mario Hoopla. And he's like, oh, when were you there? When were you in my homeland? How come you didn't say anything? And why aren't you so spelling things with r E instead of er?
Jennifer
It's like, yeah, well, I mean, I don't know. In all fairness, there wasn't enough there to talk about all fairness. You know, time wasn't right to say anything. That's why the read.
Sutton
And Teresa says, well, Irka claims I'm one of a closest fiends, and yet.
Jennifer
She didn't tell me or Kyle about this new man.
Sutton
And it goes to Kyle like, well, I already knew about it, so.
Dorit
Of.
Amanda
Course Kyle's gonna say that too. Drew's like, it's just hurtful.
Dorit
It's, you know. Yes, like, it is hurtful because Erica does things her own way and we just accept it.
Amanda
I'm like, I have never accepted it. I have been waiting for someone to pry open Erica's life and show us what's inside there, because we're. We never seem to get it. She's been on for like 10 years now, and we know nothing about her except that she likes to sing and she has a mom who's oppressive.
Sutton
Well, you know, we're gonna sure learn a lot more this season. So she goes, they're like, where did you him?
Jennifer
And she's like, yeah, it's on backstage. And I. A friend of mine had him on.
Sutton
A podcast and I saw Reddit today that it looks like the friend is Megyn Kelly. The ever so classy and fair and completely balanced Megyn Kelly whose podcast. So I think we're learning. We're learning a lot here.
Jennifer
And she's like, well, I said, is that who I think it is? I mean, I was shell shocked. I was just starstruck. And I kept walking and I walked back and I was like, that is him. I'm gonna introduce myself. Oh, my God. Megan Kelly's podcast.
Dorit
Yes.
Jennifer
Get in my pants right now.
Sutton
So Eric, America's gone again.
Amanda
Look, I don't know this guy from like a hole in the wall. I don't know who he is really at all. But, like, it's just. But apparently Erica was a fan of him. That's. That's what she's implying. I guess she was like, following him or right on Instagram or something like that, right? Is that what she's implying here?
Sutton
She said she knows who she. He is because she saw him on Megyn Kelly's podcast, or she heard him on Meg Kelly's podcast and became a fan of his. And so she knew, saw him backstage and went to say hi.
Amanda
Okay, well, but then why would she say, is that who I think it is? If she was seeing. Oh, sorry, I realize I'm conflated. You know what? Honestly, this journey that I'm on does not even matter and no one cares. I don't even care about it anymore. So she is into this guy.
Dorit
She's like, yeah, he's ex Delta. That's right. Flies only Alaskan Airlines now.
Amanda
Jennifer's like, wow.
Dorit
She's like, yeah, Special Ops.
Jennifer
That's exciting.
Dorit
Yeah. Well, I don't ever do this. Did I already explain this part?
Amanda
But I just walked up to him and I was like, yeah, I like you. So he said, yes, you're John McPhee. Sorry, you already did that part. I got distracted because I was looking up his information on you. Carry on.
Sutton
I was too. I'm on Reddit right now.
Amanda
Like, this episode's just not ending. And keep on thinking the episode's about to end. And I'm like, oh, no, there was still another scene that I forgot about it. Just how are we, like, almost two hours into this episode where nothing happened? I was like, oh, good. Bravely Hills will be a nice, easy recap for us today because nothing happened. It'll take.
Sutton
It's literally a 10 hour recap.
Amanda
But this is what. This is. The problem with Beverly Hills, it's so boring. But, like, we. There's just. There's so much to make fun of at any given moment in even its most boring state.
Sutton
So Erica is saying, oh, yeah, the.
Jennifer
Day those pictures were taken, we were actually walked around holding hands. And then I got a manicure and he got a pedicure there. I opened up everybody.
Sutton
It's like, oh, my God, Erica, you're so vulnerable. We're so proud of you. We're so proud. And she says it's early stages, so she doesn't know where it's going or.
Jennifer
If it's going anywhere. But what I like the most about John is that we can be anywhere and he'll go up to someone without an id, throw them in the back of his van, and try and drive.
Sutton
Them off across the border.
Jennifer
It's the most romantic thing I've ever been involved in in my life.
Dorit
So when do you plan on seeing him again? Oh, not for a while. I said goodbye to him today before getting on the plane.
Amanda
I was like, oh, were you sad leaving him today. Was that. Did that make you sad?
Dorit
What? What is that word? Sad? I'm not sure if I understand the concept that is that when the water flows out of people's eyes.
Jennifer
I was sad. Did I mention that he got a pedicure?
Sutton
And Bose is like, oh, girl, you keep saying, don't get crazy, but we are gone. We have left. We are in the mountains. There you go.
Jennifer
And she's like, oh, God, you guys are really blowing this up.
Sutton
So next time on Beverly Hills, we get to watch Jennifer Tilly climb a mountain.
Amanda
Yes. That's the exciting moment. All right, everyone. Well, thank you for being here for nearly two hours while we discuss this episode. Episode. We have still so much to talk about. We have the Valley Persian style and we have the Traders. Traders will be on our patreon patreon.com crappin. Don't forget to get your tickets to the Golden Crappies. And if you want ad free also on our Patreon. Everything's on Patreon, guys. So we will catch you on the next one. Have a great weekend. Bye. Watch what crap INS would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King. It's always a party on Allison Block.
Sutton
Our way is the Amber way.
Amanda
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Sutton
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Amanda
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Sutton
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Amanda
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Sutton
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Amanda
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Sutton
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Amanda
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Sutton
I love a y'. All. Olivia Williamson.
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Sutton
Yes, we can. It's Savannah.
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Sutton
Darn skippy.
Jennifer
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Sutton
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Sutton
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Sutton
We'Re taking the gold with Brenda Silva.
Amanda
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Dorit
Neal.
Sutton
Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily sides.
Amanda
Who, what, why, where? And Gwen Pentland.
Sutton
Let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs.
Amanda
Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish. My favorite Murdo. Karen McMurdo.
Sutton
She's a total knockout. It's Katie Manock.
Amanda
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Sutton
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Amanda
Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska. She's the queen bee. It's Sarah Lemke.
Sutton
We cannot tell a lie.
Amanda
It's Sarah tell of son Shannon out of a can. And Anthony. Please don't stop. It's solely and pop. Let's take off with Tamla playing. You'll always get the full story with Tori Parsons.
Sutton
She ain't no shrinking violet coutar. We love you guys.
Release Date: January 9, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
This episode is the second part of Ben and Ronnie’s hilarious and incisive recap of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15, Episode 4 ("Sedona Nobis Pacem"). With their trademark blend of affection and mockery, the hosts break down the goings-on of the women’s much-anticipated trip to Sedona, dissecting everything from petty drama, late arrivals, and ostentatious displays of wealth, to cringe-worthy moments and classic Beverly Hills shade.
This episode is a classic Watch What Crappens recap: zany, quick-witted, and lovingly savage. Ben and Ronnie gleefully lampoon the foibles and flexes of the Beverly Hills cast, offering both die-hard fans and casual listeners insight into the latest season’s social maneuverings, cringe-inducing moments, and interplay of wealth, ego, and insecurity.
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