#3156 RHOP S10E14 Part One: Troubled Waters

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3156 RHOP S10E14, Part One: "Troubled Waters"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: January 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie are back, recapping the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode 14, aptly titled "Troubled Waters." This episode focuses on the cast trip to Colorado, hosted by Angel, whose attempts at hospitality backfire spectacularly. The hosts dissect every awkward moment—from disastrous housing arrangements and relentless status-dropping to the group’s speculation about Angel's marriage and general chaos between the Housewives. The recap brims with shade, affectionately biting commentary, and signature Watch What Crappens humor.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• The fallout from Angel's poorly-planned Colorado cast trip, centered on shoddy Airbnb arrangements.
• Ongoing suspicion and shade around Angel’s finances and marriage.
• The Housewives’ dynamic of projecting personal issues onto each other—especially regarding relationships.
• The peculiar combination of “wellness” activities with Housewives-level drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Angel’s Colorado Cast Trip: Airbnb Disaster

Timestamps: 04:44–08:58

• Angel’s intent was to impress: “She gets to be like, welcome to my mansion in Colorado, you evil, jealous hags. Look at everything I have. Look at my black wooded walls...” – Ronnie (04:45)
• The group quickly discovers that most are relegated to a subpar Airbnb miles away, while a select few get to stay at Angel’s luxe home.
• Ben expresses genuine sympathy for Angel’s embarrassment, despite her own self-sabotage: “I feel bad for her about that Airbnb because… it’s just, like, embarrassing…But then at the same time, Angel is so Angel that, like, whatever goodwill or whatever pity I have goes out the door.” (05:32)
• Ronnie criticizes Angel’s execution: She alienates her guests, treats some better than others, and “every decision, every instinct she had was just incorrect.” (06:36)

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2. Status, Insecurity, and Marriage Speculation

Timestamps: 07:09–08:54, 48:10–53:28

• The hosts discuss Angel’s obsession with status and “WAG” (wives and girlfriends of athletes) identity.
• Ben notes Angel’s insecurity shows through nonstop status-dropping: “She’s obsessed with status and Bobby is a big, big piece of status...” (07:52)
• Monique projects her own relationship trauma onto Angel and Bobby, raising concern: “Who goes and just says, oh, yeah, that’s an abusive husband right there? I can tell.” – Ronnie (08:24)
• Ronnie clarifies later: “When she [Monique] compares her husband to your abusive husband... abusive more talks...maybe toxic is a better word, but it’s still gross.” (49:09)
• Both hosts agree this is classic Housewives behavior—projecting dysfunction onto each other: “We wouldn’t have Real Housewives if they didn’t project all their dysfunction onto everyone else, because that’s what they all do. Because that’s what I do.” – Ben (08:46)

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3. The “$1,000 a Month” Rumor and Real Estate Receipts

Timestamps: 09:42–12:38

• A confrontation erupts over rumors Angel tried to rent a $14,000-quality home for $1,000/month.
• Wendy stirs the pot, relaying gossip from a realtor friend. Ben and Ronnie immediately call it out as absurd: “No one’s that stupid…If she said that, she was saying it like, okay, I want it to look like it’s a million dollars, but I don’t want to pay a million dollars.” – Ronnie (10:52)
• Angel brings “Airbnb receipts” to prove she paid full price, even mentioning the listing on podcasts.
• Stacy pushes Angel to call the realtor for confirmation, leading to quick-witted shade and another round of group suspicion.

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4. Angel’s “Wellness” Persona and Group Meditation Mishaps

Timestamps: 15:16–24:55

• The group is forced into a mindful moment led by a Gia Giudice-like, over-the-top meditation guide (19:19).
• Bianca—the “mindfulness instructor”—gets roasted by the hosts: “She’s like Gia Giudice if Gia Giudice was at a Christian youth camp…like, why are you talking like this?” – Ronnie (19:19)
• Angel does not participate fully; she sits above the group, perched on an AC unit, which the hosts skewer as fake “wellness leader” behavior. “This goes back to the point of Angel doesn’t even do this, you know?” – Ronnie (23:21)
• Group intentions for the trip veer from sincere (Ashley, Wendy, Tia) to petty (Giselle’s: “to have a room with a bathroom” – 24:29).

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5. Logistics, Fourth Wall Break, and Production Tea

Timestamps: 46:11–47:40

• Monique drops insider production knowledge: the network covers trip expenses but the Housewife is responsible for guest comfort and logistics.
• Ben flags this moment as historic: “…the first time ever that there was a breaking of the fourth wall about how the logistics of the trips are taken care of.” (47:30)
• Both emphasize how unusual it is for Bravo to air this level of transparency.

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6. Comparisons, Projections, and Group Dynamics

Timestamps: 49:40–54:32

• Hosts debate if Housewives projections about marriages are ever correct, referencing the genre’s history.
• Ronnie’s philosophy: “If you just automatically think everybody’s shitty, 80% of the time, you’re going to be right. Because that’s just how humanity is.” (53:12)
• Ben reflects on their differing attitudes: “You see the good a lot more than I do…But guess what? On Bravo, at a certain point, they just spoil and they turn shitty.” (53:51)

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7. Arrival at Angel’s Mansion & Attempted “Hoedown”

Timestamps: 32:32–36:50, 54:32–59:22

• The “special” guests—Karen and Tia—get lavish guest rooms at Angel’s house, sparking more resentment over the housing divide.
• Angel brags about local wildlife dangers (“rattlesnakes and bobcats”), leading to more ridicule from the hosts.
• The party includes touches meant to impress (a violinist, oxygen bar), but come off as try-hard and out-of-touch.
  • "If you ask a kid, what is it like to be rich? Well, there's a violinist at the party, right?” – Ben (55:23)
• Ashley shade: “Clearly, no lack of land here. And you don’t have a house big enough to sleep so much—women sleep. Some girls land does not equal housing.” (55:47)
• Oxygen bar redux: “Doesn't want to breathe in fluorescent green food coloring...My mom did it in Vegas and she came back and she was like, oh, my God. Vegas has this thing called oxygen. It's like, so does the world!” – Ronnie (59:15)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Ronnie (on Angel’s hosting):
  “Every decision, every instinct she had was just incorrect.” (06:36)

• Ben (on Housewife projections):
  “We wouldn’t have Real Housewives if they didn’t project all their dysfunction…Because that’s what they all do. Because that’s what I do.” (08:46)

• Ronnie (on group dynamics):
  “If you just automatically think everybody’s shitty, 80% of the time, you’re going to be right.” (53:12)

• On Airbnb disaster:
  “They have all this booze, they've got all the snacks…but it is just like four of them. Four or five of them. It’s just so awkward.” (41:48)

• On the violinist at Angel’s party:
  “If you ask a kid, what is it like to be rich? Well, there's a violinist at the party, right?” – Ben (55:23)

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Segment Timestamps

• Angel’s hosting, Airbnb drama: 04:44–14:39
• Status, WAG obsession, marriage dynamics: 07:09–08:54, 48:10–54:32
• Realtor $1,000/month rumor: 09:42–14:39
• Mindfulness activity / Bianca the guide: 19:19–24:55
• House conflict over logistics & accommodations: 27:24–47:40
• Arrival at Angel’s mansion, luxury/awkwardness: 32:32–36:50, 54:32–59:22
• Production and fourth wall moment: 46:11–47:40

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Language & Tone

The recap is fast, sharp, and sarcastic—full of affectionately biting asides and wry observations. The hosts openly mix their Bravo expertise with self-deprecating humor, often pausing to point out their own hypocrisy or the ridiculousness of Housewives conventions.

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For First-Time Listeners / Non-Viewers

This episode humorously unpacks a Real Housewives group trip gone awry, focusing on social hierarchies, failed attempts at luxury, and the endless cycle of Housewives projecting their personal drama onto each other. With plenty of tangible details, playful sniping, and Bravo-insider tea, Ben and Ronnie make the absurdities accessible and highly entertaining—even if you missed the original show.

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End of part one. Stay tuned for part two!

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

There's so much that happens. Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today as always from an Airbnb that has running water, it's Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

[D]

Well, hello. I'm in my rich, rich house. You're in the Airbnb. Gotta get it straight.

[C]

Don't get it twisted. We are talking Potomac today. In case you couldn't tell, I am here in beautiful New York City. That's why we have a tall building outside here. This window, if you're on crap is on demand, you can see it. If you don't, then you're wondering, why does my mic sound a little different? It's because I've got my travel mic. We've got a big exciting week of shows this week. We have Today Potomac. We've got Married to Medicine today. And then either today or tomorrow, it depends on our stamina. We have more episodes of the Traders to catch up on because holy crap, this season is so good. So good. And we only talked about the first episode on Friday, so there's more Traders to talk about. But of course, the big thing that we dropped last week is that the tickets for the Golden Crappies are now officially on sale. That that will be on February 27th in Los Angeles at the Fonda Theater. Planning is underway. We are going to have special guests. We're gonna have great comedy. Well, I won't ever guarantee great comedy. I think it's always a curse when you guarantee great comedy. But we have great fun and shadiness and it's the time to bring the whole community together. So if you are a Bravo fan or if you're just someone who enjoys something fun to do on a Friday night, then come see us. We're gonna have a great time. We love it. Tickets are on our website watch or crappens.com or on our social media at Watch for crap ins. I just posted something on Reddit. We'll get something up on social media to soliciting ideas for the ballot because it's really hard to think back on all the amazing, you know, moments and quotes and things. Anything that you feel like should be on the ballot for the Golden Crappies. Go check it out. Go contribute to that Reddit thread or and that's on the Watcher Crappens. It's not an official Reddit Reddit. You know, it's not the official Reddit of Watcher Crappens, but it's like the fan community that popped up there and help us out because I think it's gonna be super fun and we'll let you know when voting starts. Also, guess what? Ad free is available on Patreon. So if you want to listen to our podcast without advertise, you can sign up@patreon patreon.com watch or crappens. That was a lot to talk about, but it was all really important. It was actually, I would actually say is probably the most important news you will hear all month or even all year. So sorry, sorry that I took two minutes but that was like world changing news right there. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, let's yacht. Okay, so today we're on to Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 episode Amazon Live Today.

[C]

Also Amazon Live today.

[D]

Also Sorry, Amazon Live 4pm every Monday. Link in bio on our Instagram.

[C]

Sorry, Potomac.

[D]

Potomac. Potomac. Now I was excited for angel because this is where angel really gets to shine. She's had a rough season. All the ladies have been coming for her. It has been really rough. And now she gets to be like, welcome to my mansion in Colorado, you evil, jealous hags. Look at everything I have. Look at my black wooded walls, which are so gorgeous, by the way. Look at fireplace. Look at my 36 acres. Suck it, ladies. Man, did she fall on her face. I feel so bad now when I say I feel bad for her. She did dig her own grave and then lie down on it. Yeah. Inside of it. But, gosh, I was rooting for you, Angel. I really was. Not even sarcastically. I was really rooting for you.

[C]

I wasn't rooting for you, but I do. I actually genuinely feel bad for her about that Airbnb because it seems like it. I don't. That's just, like, embarrassing. And you have someone like Giselle who is so mean about it. I mean, it sucks. I would be annoyed. I would be pissed off. I'm like, really? Like, we're. We're sequestered away from other people. There's been like a. The cool people get to go into the beautiful house that was, you know, in Dwell or wherever. Maybe it was Architectural Digest. And the rest of us are in this thing an hour and a half away where there's no water. I mean, I would be pissed, but Giselle is so mean about it that I'm like, I don't know. I kind of felt bad for angel about that. But then at the same time, angel is so angel that, like, whatever goodwill or whatever pity I have for her kind of goes out the. The door because. And the window. Honestly, it will. Anything that leads to the outdoors, it's going that way. Because she's such a flop at all times. Angel. Oh, my God. Truly.

[D]

Really? Just flip flopping all over the floor like a fish.

[C]

She was so proud of those gu.

[D]

I mean, terrible. Those guys are horrible. I mean, my God, thing was terrible. So. Wow. And just her instincts are terrible. Like, half the ladies over shit talk the ladies to all the guests so that the guests hate the ladies by the time they get there, which is obviously what clearly what happened then. You seat them at a table all like an acre away so they couldn't be around the real guests. So she's just like, every decision, every instinct she had was just incorrect. It was incorrect.

[C]

It was incorrect. And I feel like. I feel like Monique has a. Like, a fairly accurate read on her. I won't say it's, like, the most accurate because I think every Relationship is different, but there's definitely a weird energy that. That angel has around Bobby. And I'm not even saying that Bobby is like Chris Samuels, but I feel like Angel. Angel seems very wrapped up on with status by the fact that she keeps on name dropping or status dropping or whatever the equivalent is of saying that she's elder wag and Bobby was a starter. And this is my friend who's a high tier, you know, investment money manager.

[D]

High wealth soup. Yeah.

[C]

Like, I. Well, like, everything is a bag like.

[D]

That or their friends.

[C]

Yeah. And it makes me wonder if, like, I think maybe what. What Monique is picking up on is that insecurity. And so it's not even. I don't know what the status is of. I don't know enough about Bobby to know what. What really is going on with him. But the very least, she's obsessed with stat. And Bobby is a big, big piece of status. And I think she's, like, very worried of, like, losing Bobby and, like, losing some status and traction in whatever world she thinks she's in. And I think that's what Monique is picking up on. It's just, like, sad.

[D]

I don't know what Monique's doing, but Monique is completely in the wrong, too. Who does that? Like, who goes and just says, oh, yeah, that's an abusive husband right there. I can tell. Like, ooh, yeah, I. Not a great move on her part either. I thought that wasn't really cool. Like, stop projecting your shit onto me. And y. I know that I'm a hypocrite because that's literally what I do here all day long. But. But.

[C]

Well, then we wouldn't have Real Housewives if they didn't project all their dysfunction onto everyone else, because that's what they all do. That's what they all do because that's what I do.

[D]

But still, I was like, that's so rude.

[C]

Who does that?

[D]

So, anyway, let's start at the beginning. So everybody is sitting around, and angel has just confronted them because Giselle keeps saying, oh, really? Like, I get the little room. Oh, fine. Then let's talk about your evictions, because I've got some more information. But I'm not going to say Y. And so Angel's like, okay, well, one thing we're not going to do is bring this negative energy over my threshold. I've been in Dwell. I've been in Architectural Digest. How dare y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

You tell me right now or you won't get to see my kitchen.

[C]

So she's so concerned about negative energy entering her threshold when she has those, like, three lumps of men just sitting there in those Adirondack chairs, not saying anything to the women. So rude. Later in the episode, and she's worried about these women being negative. Excuse you.

[D]

Yeah, so she's demands. She's like, I am in a cowboy hat. Who has more information? And Wendy's like, well, I guess what I heard about you was that a friend of mine who was a real estate agent said that you called her and said you were moving to the area and you want a property to look like it's 14,000amonth, but you're only able to pay $1,000 a month. Okay, well, first of all, I say, who doesn't say that? When I go shopping, I want something that looks expensive and it's $5. I mean.

[C]

Yeah, I do have to say that. Like, when this information first came into evidence a few weeks ago, I was like, oh, gosh, angel is so busted. But then when you find out that this person is saying that angel wanted to only pay a thousand a month, I was like, wait a second. I don't believe that at all. The reason why is that such an. For a family of four to go to want to pay, like, you can't. Like, you can't get, like, a one bedroom. I feel like for, like, a thousand a month. And so I just feel like that's such an unreasonable request that, like, even I don't think angel said that. Like, I just. I think angel even.

[D]

I mean, especially in, like, a pony area. No, there's no way. No one's that stupid. And I think she. If she said that, she was saying it like, okay, I want it to look like it's a million dollars, but I don't want to pay a million dollars.

[C]

Which is like, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[D]

But, yeah, they're making it this huge deal, and no one thought she was going to get a place for a thousand dollars. That's just stupid. And Gise like, well, that lady Angel's like, well, nothing is $1,000. And Tia says, well, she sounds like an awful realtor. And I'm saying that it's a princess. And Giselle's like, no, because she said she didn't want to work with her. A. She did. She will not work with somebody who will only spend a thousand dollars. And so Wendy's like, actually, she's the Willy Willy Goodwill, so suck on that.

[C]

Yeah. And Wendy's basically like, the wheel has no reason to lie on you. Plus, she's not the only one that said this before. Well, then just say, give us more information then. Wendy. Don't leave us. Hang here then. So angel is like, well, I don't know if she was upset because it didn't work out because she didn't find us a property. And Wendy's like, oh, so you do know well, who I'm talking about. She's like, oh, she does know you're talking about. Oh, she does know who you're talking about. And he just like, I do. She's like, well, I'm. Angel's basically like, I'm paying $14,000 for this house. Trust me. Like, really bothered. Like. Like, I don't like it. I am paying $14,000. Okay?

[D]

How dare you. I'm paying the money. And also, Angel. Angel. First of all, one thing. Angel is pay pr, because angel has been on every podcast and every interview show. I mean, she's on everything. I'm surprised she hasn't popped up on QVC or the Bible Channel because she has been on everything I've seen. And listen, I haven't listened to any event because it's Angel. Like, I don't know who thinks, like, you know what? We need to up our ratings this week on this podcast. Get Angel. Get me.

[C]

Yeah, seriously.

[D]

I see the little clips they post all over the Internet, and in one of them, she's saying, now, that house was $14,500, and I have the Airbnb listing to show you to prove it. So I don't want anyone thinking that I was trying to pay a thousand bucks. So whatever. Apparently, she. She brought the Airbnb receipts. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

[A]

Hey, it's Raj and Noah. And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.

[B]

Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.

[A]

But who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics of that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.

[B]

We'Ll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right, so the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.

[A]

Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

And for the first time ever, we're going to have full video episodes on YouTube, because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're going to be right here to help you do them better.

[C]

I believe her. That's like, to me, of all the things like, this is one that's. This is an easy thing to believe. I don't believe that was her natural face on that photo on her Instagram from earlier in the season. But this thing, I do believe. So then Stacy's like, well, why can't we just call the agent? I mean, since you know who it is, why don't you just call her and say, why did you lie on me? Why don't you call. Call her? And Angel's like, no, no, no. And when he's like, oh, okay, so now you want to make calls because you didn't want to make calls when we asked you to call tj. Well, that was different. You know, with personal relationships, you might need to pause and think about when you want to call. But with business, you call and straighten things out, so why not in this moment? I was like, no, sorry, Wendy got you on that one, Stacy.

[D]

And wasn't TJ business, too? So Angel's like, well, my business is slated to open in 2026, and that's happening. And if someone wants to spread lies about me about the CEO of Wonderland, which I've talked about like, it is an open business for a whole year, and now we're. It is not an open business. I hope that they make some lives better than me wanting to spend a thousand dollars a month on a house. Okay. Because I was under the impression Wonderland was open.

[C]

You know, I think it is open. I think she was trying to expand into Potomac, so maybe that's what she meant by it. It.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[C]

But also, it's a Potomac. It's a Real Housewives of Potomac business. So you never really quite know what's going on.

[D]

I just don't see how lucrative that is. Guiding. Guiding a few people through the wilderness for a few days to touch crystals. Doesn't seem like it's going to. I don't know. I think you need to aim bigger for. For football money. I also.

[C]

It's like. I think what's so funny about angel is that she talks about this. This is obviously an important part of her life. Crystals, meditation, affirmations, wellness. But it really only seems to be part of her when it's convenient on camera. Like, it's not. You don't look at her and say, oh, this woman is like, this. She's all about this because it doesn't seem like. It doesn't really seem to come out of her personality. She. It feels like she does it, but, like, it's just funny that she is actually professionally involved in it because it just doesn't seem like it flows out of her. It reminds me of on Next Gen New York City, when Ava was like, Looks at Ariana Biermann and is like, you don't strike me. You don't look like you would be someone who is a fashion designer. Right? Like, Ariana may like fashion and may want to do fashion, but, like, there's nothing about her that oozes like, that You're. This is part of, like, your. The fabric of your being. And so it's just so surprising to me that this is the path for angel, because it's like, we'll go episodes on end, and then suddenly she's like, oh, let's do a wellness thing. You're like, but where did this come from? You know?

[D]

Well, it seems like a very. I'm. I'm not from here, but I'm gonna pretend I'm from here kind of thing. Like, I've lived here long enough, and now I'm a local. Like, when people move to LA and they're like, yeah, I do yoga now, and I've been to a celebrity center. I'm from la, you know, and then they become really like, hoo ha, or whatever. And I think maybe she's Coloradoing that. Like, what could we do in Colorado? People love crystals and spirituality. And I can. It's like, yeah, but you don't, do you? I don't know.

[C]

I feel like she likes it. She does it like, you know, like, I like yoga, but no one's gonna look at me and be like, oh, my God. Ben is like, he speaks of yoga.

[D]

Ben should start a yoga business.

[C]

I'm a yogi. I should start a yoga business. Come to my sound.

[D]

You could probably make a million dollars if you did, like, mix the things. Yoga, like yoga and bagels. Yeah. Like, you can do yoga, but it's like, the easier kind. And then we all go have a bagel together there.

[C]

You want to know something really exciting? This Thursday, which, of course is Bagel Thursday, as is every Thursday. But this Bagel Thursday, it also happens to coincide with National Bagel Day. That's right. I'm so excited, and I'm in New York for it. I get to have a New York City bagel on National Bagel Day on Bagel Thursday. See, now that's something that boozes out of my. That. See, that's coming out of like, you look at me and you think bagel, right?

[D]

Yeah. To follow you around for that. Watching you talk about bagels.

[C]

I would 100% lead a bagel tour in Los Angeles. 100%. And I would gladly accept payment for that.

[D]

You're like, here's Hanks and Pops. The end.

[C]

So much more. Anyway, the point. I don't even know why I'm making this point about Angel. This is almost feels like an unnecessary point, but it's just what happens. But why are we talking? Why am I. Why am I all revved up about Angel?

[D]

And because Bagel Thursday is national. Is coming up.

[C]

That's why. When is national run out? When is national run out of water? In your Airbnb day?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Was that last night? O.

[D]

So they're still squabbling over this thousand dollar thing. The ladies don't really believe it. He is like, well, angel doesn't strike me as cheap. You just have that landish. $100,000 isn't going to. Anyway, anyway. But maybe in Nebraska.

[C]

Angel's like, okay, well, everyone, let's have a mindful moment. I hope I cleared everything up. I don't care who doesn't believe it. It doesn't matter to me. And she is like, oh, that wasn't the mindful moment. And so they. There's this. We. We. We have like, this mindful guide who's like, basically Giudice. She's Colorado.

[D]

She is Geodice. And she talks like, her way of. I wouldn't trust her. She's. She's. She's like Gia Giudice. If Gia Giudice was at, like, a Christian youth camp. Like, hi, guys. Are we happy to be here. Be here today to celebrate Jesus? Yes. Okay. Let's get some breath into our muscles and some Jesus into our souls. Okay. Stretch it. The energy. I'm trying to meditate. Get this child out of here. Get her out of here. Go back to your tiki talkie. I'm trying to do some yogi.

[C]

Yes. So they all start to move out to the balcony to do some mindful meditation. But before they do that, Giselle turns to Stacy and she's like, so how is tj? Giselle tries so many times this episode to get other people to be messy. Like, so many times. I mean, how many times does she ask to, like, Wendy to call the realtor? But this episode and last episode, right? She was trying so hard. Is.

[D]

It's too Much. It's very like Heather from Salt Lake City. It's like, I get that you think that this is your job, but it's. You're overdoing it, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Calm down a little.

[C]

So Stacy's, well, funnier.

[D]

Well, yeah. She's like, I don't know how TJ Is, but I do know how Timo is.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

So now they all go out to the balcony.

[D]

I love that guy.

[C]

He's full of so much personality.

[D]

Oval, squarish, rectangular, Ish. Roundish pizzas with no cheese or sauce.

[C]

Isn't it sexy? They go out to the balcony and they all sit on mats for, like, this meditation. Everyone except for angel, who, like, sits on, like, a AC unit or something. It was so bizarre. She's sort of sitting above them, watching down. And they are. They're gathering there. And Bianca, the fake Gia Giudice mindfulness instructor, is like, okay, everyone, we're gonna settle in. Here's some organic lavender. Okay? Okay, so we're gonna set an intention for the rest of your trip. Take a moment to relax your shoulders for a second. If you happen to be sitting on an air conditioner, please just let your butt settle into the grooves of the vent. Okay? And now let's talk about intentions. Starting with. Let's see. Let's start with. Oh, first, let's do some jazz hands. They start shaking their hands, start doing jazz hands. And Stacy is like, I did not fly to Colorado to do jazz hands. While angel sits and watches us. I'd rather have champagne than do yoga. And I know that I'm a yogi and I shouldn't say that, but this is just where we are.

[D]

This Bianca chick. Oh, my gosh. She's like, okay, guys, take yours. Take a second to relax your shoulders. Do a little shoulder. You better do a little shoulder roll. Yes, you better do it. It's like, why are you. Why are you talking like this? What is wrong with this person? Bianca. I was so annoyed with Bianca this whole time. She's like, give me some jazz fingers. Yes, jazz fingers. Not the jazz fingers. Am I right, ladies? It's like, can we just. Can we kid bop? Can we just get through this? Thank you. So, yeah, Stacy's like, I didn't fly here to do jazz hands. And Bianca's like, you see how you feel a little buzzy? Because we're getting. We're letting go of that energy. Oh, my God. Where is that energy going? Bye, energy. See ya. Oh, my God.

[C]

Not energy leaving. And so Kieran is crying again because she's high on some sort of pill, and she's in low altitude. And then now it's like, time to set an intention. Angel is like, guys, I would love for all of us to set an intention. So Bianca's like, I love that idea.

[D]

We have to point out Angel's not even sitting on the ground. Okay. I know everyone else has to sit on the ground. Angel is sitting on some outdoor air conditioner or some and just watching them, and they're like, why the isn't she have to sit on the ground? Why the rest of us talk on the ground? And this is, I think goes back to the point of angel doesn't even do this, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That's the thing. I'm not sitting on the ground. No. Yeah.

[C]

I just think it's so odd. Yeah. And, like, sitting on the AC unit, you know? So Angel's like, well, my intention for this trip is just to get to know you ladies on a deeper level. Oh, my God. They get to know you. You'll get to know me, and I'll get to know know you. I was like, oh, gosh. And Ashley is like, angel has said repeatedly that she wants to get to know the other ladies in the group. And then we see the montage of her again, like, a million times. I'm really looking forward to getting to know you and for you to get to know me. I'm like, angel, we know you now. It's not getting any better.

[D]

Yeah. And she's like, well, hopefully she puts her money where her mouth is, because we really want to get to know her. Hopefully she admits that her husband hates her now that she's broke. So Stacy's like, my intention for this trip is to be present and to enjoy you guys, because I'm tired of fighting. I would like to enjoy you a little. Wow. I don't need any of your intentions. The season is over. Just get up and fight. I don't. I don't want to meditate, and I certainly don't want to watch you meditate.

[C]

Yeah. Ashley's also. Her intention is to pull back more layers and laugh and realize it's not that deep. And Wendy also says that she just wants to have fun. They don't have a lot of time together. Let's have fun. And Tia is also like, I want to get to know everyone better. Everyone's saying these really nice things, and it gets to Giselle, and she's like, okay, my intention. Have a room with a bathroom. Not having this.

[D]

And Angel's like, well, Giselle's made it her entire life's mission to criticize me into nitpick. And that's what she wants to do. Then let her. Let her do it with her. No water, no running water, and her twin bed.

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So later on is gonna be a hoedown.

[D]

And, yeah, we better bet it's gonna be a hoedown. Yes. Okay, you can leave. Bianca, you can leave.

[C]

Not a hoedown. Talk about, hey, this hoe is down. Am I right? Altitudes pimp up.

[D]

Hoedown. Am I right? Oh, God, this was fun. Guys, leave.

[C]

Bianca's like, well, you all. I'm taking your water. So Kierna, they're all excited for the hoe down, and. And Kieran is like, hi. And they are talking about their. Their arrangements and everything. And. And Giselle is once again bragging about how she. When they. She took everyone to Nevis, you know, she made sure everyone had their own room, and it was beautiful and their own bathroom. Even Stacy, yada, yada, yada. So she's still very salty about these arrangements.

[D]

She's like, So I expected Mrs. Wonder Nuts to do the same. So they're like, so, Giselle, are you still leaving? And Karen is like, I don't know if I would. It's really dangerous out there. It's really, really.

[C]

It's so dangerous.

[D]

Why am I crying? Giselle says, there's a hotel. And Wendy's like, oh, she's willing to go to a hotel, you guys. But the hill. And Karen just says, again, but the hill was so dangerous, I wouldn't go to the hill. Hill feels very, very dangerous.

[C]

The hills are alive with the sound of music. Kieran laughs. She has probably no idea what the reference is. She's like, so, okay, well, Karena, you need to lay down an angel. I think you need to take your friend or whatever. So they're basically trying to make arrangements to be like, okay, we gotta, like, go take a rest. And it turns out Kieran is going to Angel's house. That was, like, a thing we were confused about. We were like, why isn't Kieran going? But she is going. And Monique is like, how many bedrooms is your house? Well. Well, it's six, but unfortunately, a lot of them are used. Like, Bobby uses one for his man cave. And, like, the bunk room is Bobby's man cave, too. And then there's a kitchen, which is Bobby's man cave. And we have a. We have a nice foyer, but that's his man cave. So, unfortunately, it's all used up.

[D]

Lots of man caves for Bobby. You better work at man cave. Bianca, get in your car and drive away. Drive away, Bianca. Yeah.

[C]

By the way, we find out that if Bobby's friends are staying in the house also, which I don't know if we'll ever find that out, but if those. Those guys are staying in the house, I'm gonna give a big raised single eyebrow and go. Because you're telling me that you took up bedrooms for those. Those guys who wouldn't even stand up and say hello to the women. But this is pure conjecture. But I like getting mad on pure conjecture.

[D]

Well, six bedrooms. Okay. How many kids does she have?

[C]

Have?

[D]

She's got a lot of kids, right? Three, at least.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I forget. I don't count the kids. I'm not really a kid. Counter. Sorry. But she's got. Let's say she has three. So she's got at least two bedrooms for the kids. She's got one for her and Bobby. She's got one that's like a bunk room. So that still would only leave three bedrooms, which is not enough. So but even, even without having the room in the house, getting them a place an hour away is crazy. An hour and a half, actually.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That is cray cray.

[C]

It is cray cray. They, they did mention that the Airbnb was in Littleton, right? Didn't they mention Littleton at one point? But I don't know. Someone's got to do a map. We got to see what the distances are. But I feel like in the past when people have invited people to stay in their houses, it has always worked out like cuz people have big ass houses and people share beds and stuff. And, and I just feel like when, when people have gone on cast trips to people's homes, like to Camille's place in Colorado on Beverly Hills or to. There was another Colorado place I think they stayed at, unlike Dallas. And anytime anyone goes to Colorado is what I'm saying, they don't.

[D]

You're like, Colorado has the space. I've.

[C]

When they went to Monique's house in, you know, that's where they went. They had a trip where they went to Monique's house, like her other house. The husband's not there with the kids. Get Bobby and the kids out of there. You know, it's like send them on vacation, have them get a friend or something. You know, like the kids, the kids have. That opens up two room. Well, no one wants to stay in the kids room, but you know what I'm saying, like there's a way to do it.

[D]

I feel like it's not like everybody's dying to wake up and look at Angel's face space. You know what I mean? They're not like, oh my God, we don't get to spend more time with Angel. I think it's more like you dragged us all to Colorado to advertise your wander butts and to like show everybody to show the TV how gorgeous your house is. But you're treating us like, like you're not treating us, you're treating us like an afterthought and you're just using the show to kind of like promote your own and you know, and it's like.

[C]

If they were like 20 minutes away or 15 minutes away, I think it would be okay. But they really are so far away and it is weird. Like you can get them, you can just get them a, a regular Airbnb. I feel like this cast, for as much as this cast has come up, Potomac is definitely one of those shows that has like a rich history of, like, bad Airbnbs. So, like, you can pull it off.

[D]

Yeah. So Angel's like, well, the other rooms are for Kieran and Tia. And Monique said, or Jazzy's like, so when did you and T. Get so close? Which I think is a good question. But listen, she needs to. She needs to get some friends. So Tia's like, well, she's been very kind to me because she and angel are super close. It was like an automatic connection there. You know, angel only has two extra bedrooms. What's the problem?

[C]

Because, like, who else is. Who else would go, right? Like, who else would angel invite? If she has room for two people.

[D]

Anybody would be questionable, right? Because she's not friends with anybody.

[C]

She's not friends with anyone. She's not. It's not gonna be Giselle. It's not going to be Ashley. You know, she. Angel said this thing of. This sort of nice thing about Wendy. Like, I think generally, like, I generally like you. That's does not qualify you to be in the main house, though. Right. And then after this, it's not going to be Stacy. I don't think she's even has. Has a relationship with Stacy of any, like, noteworthiness. Right. I actually think she should have invited Monique and. Because I'm surprised she didn't pull the WAG card and be like, from one wag to another, come stay in my house.

[D]

Yeah. So Angel's like, okay, let's go. So the. Some of the girls are going, you know, and so they get in the truck, and Kierna and Tia are getting in the truck, and she's like, well, if that girl really said what Wendy said she said, that's bad. She's like, oh, that is too unprofessional. She's like, very unprofessional. That is a very bad realtor. Very, very bad.

[C]

Cut to Giselle. So, Wendy, do we want to call the agent? Let's call the agent. Let's get her on the phone. Let's hear. Come on now. Come on. Wendy's like, I'm not calling her.

[D]

Let.

[C]

Let angel do that. She's like. She's like, I'm not getting dragged into this mess. Giselle. More than I have. Okay.

[D]

More than me. The one who started it.

[C]

Well, she started it in the beginning. But then what's going to happen is, is that Wendy will get blamed for calling the realtor when it was Giselle who really wanted to do it the most.

[D]

Yeah. I think Wendy's just like, I'm not doing the work. I'M tired. She could do it. Yeah, I've passed the baton. I'm exhausted. And Monique's like, okay, so what was she saying? I'll call her. She goes, yeah, yeah. She's like, I'm not calling her. So Ashley's like, okay, well, that's fair. Well, you wouldn't be so defensive about the word eviction if you weren't evicted. Yes, you would.

[C]

If you.

[D]

If I was. If I was leaving an Airbnb and someone accused me of being evicted, yeah, I would be like, I wasn't evicted. But I love that Giselle. Giselle takes that as this huge piece of evidence. So we go to Angel's truck, and Kieran says, well, first of all, for professional reasons, extremely unprepared.

[C]

It's really extremely bad. And Angel's saying like, well, Giselle was mad because she thought she had a gotcha, but really it made her look stupid again because I keep my business tight. These issues that they have, they are made up and they're based off of jealousy because let me tell you something, they hate the house, but that house is a 1.6 million dollar house that they are staying in. That's like wag money right there, okay? It's speaks of ingratitude. Wagless ingratitude.

[D]

And she goes, now, listen, I'm a humble lady, which I was cracking up at, because in the other scene when they were like, oh, you only want to spend a thousand dollars. And she goes, let me tell you something my very, very rich, rich ass did not like. She said something like that. And then it cuts to her like, yeah, listen, I'm a very humble lady, and I'm not sure where this energy is coming from, but I'm an eternal optimist. Wonderland. Wonderland.

[C]

If there's anything I have picked up from angel all season long is that she is an eternal optimist. That's what I always think of when I see her smiling face every single episode. Not being a wet blanket. I'm like, there's an eternal optimist if I've ever seen one.

[D]

Yeah. And so TSA quote, angel, I know that obviously it was a given decay would be in your house, but I feel so, so special that I was included. So thank you so much. Do you have a whole bunch of stuff walking through your garden or backyard or property or anything like that? Tell me, tell me right now what to be afraid of. She's like, well, we've got bobcats and plenty of snakes. And she's like, rattlesnakes. Yes, rattlesnakes boa constrictors. We've got this snake from Jungle Book that is actually bigger than a mountain that could eat you. So be very. Like, what the am I staying here? Who brings me to a house with rattlesnakes and bobcats?

[C]

I know. Also, I. Something just occurred to me. Isn't Angel's whole thing that we wander lust is that we lead people on these? Like. Like, it's like wellness retreats. Right. So one must assume they keep people in a place for the wellness. Is that. Do they keep them in the Airbnb that the women are at? Like, where do they keep the.

[D]

The.

[C]

Where do they keep them? Because they have 36 acres. The whole thing is they have 36 acres. I always thought Wanderlust took place on their property, but I just have so many questions.

[D]

I don't know. That's a good question. I wonder if they can pitch tents and dig holes for their poopies or something, because that's.

[C]

Maybe it's a whole other. Yeah, maybe it's a whole other property. Yeah.

[D]

Where do you stay when you go to Wanderlust?

[C]

I don't know. But anyway, Giselle, back to the Airbnb. Giselle's like, when we went to Nevis, y' all felt warm. Y' all felt loved. Giselle's so hung up. She's so proud of her Nevis trip, which was fine, but, like, nothing. Nothing memorable. But she keeps going back to it. And Monique is like, well, I thought we were staying at her house. Because then we see a flashback again to the episode, you know, where she. Where angel was talking about, like, if you're coming to my house, I need to make sure you don't act this way. We need to clear this up before you come to my house. I invited you all to my house, my 36 acres, you know?

[B]

Know.

[C]

So they're like, yeah, we thought we're staying at the house. The house that she's talked about all season long.

[D]

Yeah. And so they're all upset. And Wendy's like, my favorite part of the trips is when we. When we come tonight, we talk in the kitchen over cheesecake. Can we hang out and talk about how stupid woes is? They're like, yeah, we're robbed of our Golden Girls moment. And then the other ladies, Kieran is like, is the mountain lion gonna get us? And angel goes, no, no. If you see a mountain lion lion, it's already too late. You're not going to see one because you'll be dead. And Tia's like, well, there's a point of entry in Stacy's room. And she goes. So where we meet. And Tia goes. They melt. They may smell Stacy. It's like, oh, my God. Stacy kills. Still catching strays. She just can't win, that chick left and right.

[C]

So back in the Airbnb, Stacy is saying, I just hate that we're separated already. And Wendy's like, I hate that. And Stacy's like, and now we are. We're gonna be separated again because you guys are leaving. Because Giselle really wants to get a hotel. And as we talked about on Crappy Hour, there was footage of them at a four. At the Four Seasons of Denver, which I wonder if that's where they wind up going at the end of this episode, because this Airbnb just gets worse and worse and worse.

[D]

Yeah, they just needed a shower. So.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So Wendy's like, if angel was gonna tweet us like this, then why did she even invite us on the Twip? Like, okay, okay, you know what? Some of. Some of the people I can see being like, wait a minute. Why don't we get to stay with Angel? But Wendy, you're the one who's like, angel just wanted to pay $1,000 for her play. Why does angel want to put you up? I mean, come on. The fact that it's Monique and Giselle crying the loudest with their being the meanest is so this show.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

What you pay, you get what you earn.

[C]

Okay, so the Wendy crew. I'm not the Wendy crew. The angel crew arrives at her house, and Bob Bobby Shields, angel from the rain. And, you know, they go inside, they're, like, so impressed with the house, you know, oh, this is beautiful. And Karen is like, I love the reinvention of Whitaker marble. I was like, what? Kieran? Kieran is suddenly a marble expert. And they're just like, oh, my God, it's so beautiful. This is beautiful. Oh, it's lovely. It's gorgeous. Of course, they're just like, gotta go for it.

[D]

The house is gorgeous. It really is so pretty. Yeah, it's really, really well done. And the guest rooms are good. Gorgeous. Like, the treatment on the walls is so pretty. Is it like a cement? What is it on the.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

I mean, it's just so pretty, this whole place. The beds even. I mean.

[C]

Yeah. But then there's also, like, a violinist. It was, like, standing in the corner of the kitchen as they walk through on their little tour. I'm like, what's happening here? Or maybe that was later. I don't know. But at some point, there was a violin. Violinist. Actually, it was.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, there was a violinist at the party. At the party, yeah. So they asked Tia if she's happy to be here. And she's like, well, I was told where I was gonna. She goes, let me fix my face so it's not obvious what I'm saying. I was told where to stay, and I stayed there.

[C]

Yes. And Karen is like, is this the Wonderland?

[D]

I feel like I'm in Wonderland.

[C]

And she's. Oh, wow, this is beautiful.

[D]

Oh, you also have your.

[C]

Your own ensuite bathroom. You have your own bathroom. And they're just like, oh, this is the lap of luxury. Cut to Wendy. She's like, you know, the magic of our girls trip happens when we're all under one. Woof. And, like, I could sleep in the bed with you for, like, a night or whatever. I just think it's a bathroom piece. I don't know. It's just really sad. So they're. It's kind of funny because for sure, if you're going on a group trip, that is the best time. It doesn't matter whether it's on the housewife show or if it's just in real life. The best is, like, at the end of the night, you're all together. I mean, you're sort of having a slumber party. But they are really leaning into it here in a way that they never have on any other girls trip. They never talk about it this much.

[D]

We're not gonna see each other getting ready at night. How will we. How will we talk to each other while we get glammed up? How are we gonna live on this trip?

[C]

But it is funny because it's like the four of them, and there's, like, this whole giant bar of alcohol call, you know, And Stacy's like, well, we have all that liquor. I mean, who's gonna drink it if you guys leave? Because, you know, again, Giselle and. And. And Ashley are thinking about leaving, and they're like, they have all this booze. They've got all this snacks. But it is just like four of them. Four or five of them. It's just so awkward.

[D]

So Ashley says, I need a bathroom. I poop three times a day.

[C]

They're like, wow.

[D]

And just. I was like, I'm like, twice. I said, okay. That's where we've come to. We're finding out how many times each of them. Each person poops now. Come on, man. So they keep going on and on about this. And then now it's time for Angel's welcome mixer.

[C]

And so, by the way, a welcome mixer where the people who are supposed to mix refuse to mix. It's more like a. What's the opposite of a mixer? Separate. It's a welcome separator.

[D]

Yeah. So Angel's getting glam, and she's like, oh, this face is giving. Now I'm gonna go get nice and drunk. So this was a hundred dollars. I'll give you 50. 50. I'll give you $50.

[C]

Yeah. I cannot wait for the welcome mixer. I have a beautiful dinner open. Open fire dinner for the ladies among the backdrop of our 36 acres. And I have really tried to plan details so the ladies know that I'm being intentional with their time. And so then we see them all getting into the car to go 35 miles north for this one. It's a one hour. It's 35 miles, but it takes one hour, I'm assuming, because of windy mountain roads.

[D]

Yeah. So it takes an hour and a half. Yeah. So she's. It's even a lie about the. The distance.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So Monique calls to check on her son to waste some time, and she's like, Mr.

[C]

Call.

[D]

Oh, it sounds like you've got heat exhaustion and dehydration. Okay. I've got a. I've got a remedy for you. It's called you're an Annie. Stop calling me. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. She's like, I finally get phone service only to hear this. Go in the shade. Drink some water. So then now they're talking about divorces and. And, like, marriages and stuff. And Jazzy's asking like, hey, did you guys have a sticky, like, really bad divorce? Like, I hate you. I hate that we're done with this. Monique is like, no, but I don't think he thought it was going to go through, you know? And she says that Chris didn't even really want a divorce. And. And Monica's saying she's also joking that, like, in light of recent events, Stacy would be the most comfortable person she could talk to with her issues with her ex. Because. Because she's the only one who really knows Chris Samuels at all. So maybe she can relate.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm assuming that's what she meant by that. Or did she mean, like, that they're dating?

[D]

Like, she was joking? Like, oh, well, it's her ex, too. If they dated, so she would get it. But I think she was kidding. So then Ashley, meanwhile, is like, oh, my God, look at those houses. They have to be Airbnbs or whatever. I mean, we could have been at those. I. I see 30 Airbnbs. Everywhere you pass is like, wow, there's a place with running water, I'll bet. No, but they have a toilet. Someone's probably pooping in that house.

[C]

They probably. I mean, it is. I mean, they are passing several houses. Although, to be fair, if. If angel had put them in one of those houses, they'd be like this. We got. We have to stay here in some crappy suburban ranch house while they're in the lap of luxury. Yes. They would never be happy, to be honest.

[D]

Yeah, and that's the thing with Giselle. She's so unhappy about every little thing that when there's really something to be unhappy about, it's like, oh, God, there she is complaining again. Even when it's real, it's like, we don't have water or anywhere to poop. It's like you do nothing but complain. So it's like you're a little. You're the little girl who cried, I can't poop.

[C]

So then they do the thing where they're still driving and they, and they get. They actually go on to Airbnb, like, let's just see what's near here. And they find they're like, okay, here's one. It's an eight bedroom hot tub in Red Rocks and sleeps 20. Like, there's. What you could do is 2020. I mean, and the thing is this. They're right. Of course there are giant. Airbnb is. Colorado is such a. Like that Denver area in general, Boulder, all that, like, you know, people want to go and have a cabin, you know, and have like, have like a whole bunch of people there. So it is crazy that. That theirs is so far away.

[D]

So in the other car, Jazzy's like, oh, my God, 53 minutes. Monique says, wow, you got guys. Yeah, let's find an Airbnb. Find an Airbnb. So Monique's like, well, I've hosted two trips, and the network does cover certain expenses, but it's our job to be in line with production every step of the way. And then we see clips of Monique's trip to France and her lake House in 2020. And she's like, what do you think.

[C]

She means by that?

[D]

I'm gonna make sure it's good. She means that even though they might pick up the tab, it's still your responsibility to make sure everyone's comfortable, make sure their accommodations are like, production doesn't do all that for you. They just pay for it. So if your trip sucks, it's because you sucked at the planning of it.

[C]

This was actually, I thought, a significant moment. This is the first time I can remember. I think it was the first time ever that there was a breaking of the fourth wall about how the logistics of the trips are taken care of. They always, always, always. Even in the later years of the Housewives where we've seen. Seen a lot of fourth wall breaking, they always make it seem like, oh, my God, I just had this idea to go on a trip trip, and I'll do it all myself. And this is the first time that someone's actually said and that Bravo's put on the air, like, look, the network pays for stuff, but, you know, yada, yada, yada. I thought that was, like, a pretty significant moment.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

An otherwise insignificant series, like, this is a. Guys, it's 2026. Huge significant thing that happened in America.

[D]

Huge moment.

[C]

Guys. In an otherwise insignificant vertical. Yes.

[D]

This year, my horoscope said, shit's about to change. And it just did. It just did.

[C]

Acknowledgement.

[D]

Monique says the energy was just weird. It was like, damn. And Jazzy's like, yeah. I mean, she just seems so emotional. I mean, what the hell? She goes, yeah, but this is Monique. She goes, you've got to understand, there's so much other stuff she's not sharing. And I can confidently say that because I've been in her shoes. Like, I see right through it. You know, it's a lot of pressure when you're doing it all and you have one whole partner that may not be. I'm just hypothetically speaking, you know, just.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

I mean, maybe it's abuse, I don't know. But seeming pretty abusive to me. I'm just saying. Just. Just. Just rhetorical. Not. Not.

[C]

I didn't take it as abuse. I really didn't. I did not, like, take that as an abuse. What I took it as is that Bobby calls all the shots, and angel is afraid that if she doesn't go along or she doesn't, like, sort of stand and say, like, I don't want to do that, or no. Or. Or, like, stand up to Bob and. And, like, express her wills that he's gonna leave her. And that's how I. So she's sort of powerless in this relationship. And it's a relationship that she likes the. She loves being in the relationship. She likes the idea of it. She likes the image of her life as like, hey, I'm a wag, and I'M married to a football player. We've got this mansion, and everything's great. We have beautiful life. But fundamentally, it's like, it's not a. It's not like a. It's not an equal partnership. That's my takeaway.

[D]

I see what you're saying. The reason I say abuse, and I don't mean, like, physical abuse, like she's accusing him of physical abuse. I'm just saying that what Monique has told the ladies about her relationship is she's like, describes an abusive relationship. She wrote in her book, emotionally abusive relationship. Right. It's like, she's very out about it being. Well, actually, she said physical. She said in her book. She said that they're physically. They physically abused each other. Like, had moments of physical abuse and stuff like that. And so she is telling the people there, she's showing them her book. She's kind of like. Like, it's not like she's being shy about her own. So when she compares her relationship, when she compare. When she says, oh, I recognize that that's exactly what my husband did. Like, you're comparing her husband to your abusive husband. You know what I mean? So, you know, abusive more talks. Maybe toxic is a better word, but it's still just like. Like, gross.

[C]

Not the best. Yeah.

[D]

And because, you know, even though what she's saying, like, we see it and when, you know, when we see it later, the way he is with her, I don't want to say whether it is or not, because I don't know whether it is or not. I just think it's like the second he says, like, oh, it's gonna. You know, we'll get there. When we get there, they all switch to this immediate, like, oh, well, Bobby, Bobby, I just. I don't know. It just seems like I get that they attack each other on these shows, but it just seems to be going a little low to be comparing her. Her relationship, your abusive relationship. It's like.

[C]

Like, yeah, I. Yeah, again, I just. I took it more just like. Like she was saying, Angel's just not a. Angel is not. Is afraid to just be herself. But, I mean, it could be both ways. And definitely angel takes it the way that you said it, I think.

[D]

Yeah. Because they just went to this whole book thing about Monique's terrible relationship. You know what I mean? She wrote a whole book on how she not part of this horrible relationship anymore. She's like, oh, my God, your relationship was just like mine.

[C]

It's like, excuse you, that was not a book. That was A series of love letters from her former self written by Chat GPT.

[D]

So Jazzy is like, well, as a wag, I don't experience that kind of thing. You've been a. You, you are a five minute wag. Okay. And didn't your husband have kids on you? I mean, come on.

[C]

He's a wagamama. It's a joke. That would make more sense in London because there's a series of restaurants there called Wagamama.

[D]

So.

[C]

Yeah, no, I agree.

[D]

She's.

[C]

You're. You're a recent wag.

[D]

Yeah. You've been here two minutes. Okay.

[C]

You're like a wag Newt. Yeah, call me.

[D]

Three kids later.

[C]

A wag zygote. God, it must be fun to do to be able to start every sentence with as a wag. I think that's probably why. I mean, it's got like, what, privilege?

[D]

Yeah, as a wag.

[C]

As a wag, Yeah.

[D]

I don't experience that, you know, but I wouldn't want a woman bringing an ex husband and comparing them to my current husband, you know? So Monique is saying, yeah, I mean, maybe she doesn't want to open up and maybe she doesn't want to talk about it. I'm just saying, I don't know, who.

[C]

Am I to say?

[D]

And Stacy's like, be careful. She's very sensitive about her man. And she's like, that's why. I mean, hello, I've been there too. So that's what I'm saying. I was sensitive about my man too. So she reminds me of where I was in some ways.

[C]

No. That being said, this is not the first time on Bravo that these moments have arisen where people have brought. Have recently experienced some sort of trauma. And then they project it onto a situation. They see the. They see the similar signs and they feel like, like, warnings, Warnings. But is the track record on Bravo on this, like, terrible? Like, is it every time someone does this, it's like, see, they were wrong, they shouldn't have projected. Or has it been actually fairly accurate? I'm just trying to remember the examples for some reason. I'm going right to Lisa Rinna and Kim Richards.

[D]

Well, with most of the examples, you know, with most of the examples. And look, I say this about my own personality. If you just automatically think everybody's shitty, 80% of the time, you're going to be right. Because that's just how human. That's just humanity.

[C]

No, that's why everyone always says Ronnie's always right and Ben is right. It's like, because Ronnie always is like, because they're shitty. You'll see they're shitty. And eventually they're shitty because guess what? It turns out that like most people on Bravo, at certain point they just spoil and they turn shitty. And then I'm the one that they're like, we love Ben, but he just doesn't get it. And I'm like, no.

[D]

You see the good a lot more than I do. And I think that, that, you know, I'm gonna win more because I see humans or humans are nasty. Like, it takes, it takes more effort for a human to be good than it takes for a human to be nasty. It doesn't mean, I think like humanity just sucks in general. I just think that humanity sucks has a very dark side and it's easier to just live in the dark side, you know, it's harder to do good. And so I think that, you know, just voting on human nature, you're going to be right if you say people are shitty. So I think on these shows when people are like, oh, her husband is shitty. 90% of the time they're going to be.

[C]

That's going to work out eventually. Work out. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So anywho, they all arrive at angels at long last and they're like, oh my God, this is so beautiful. And then we see there's people in the backyard. This is when there's a violinist lurking in the kitchen playing like Mozart. Which it's like, okay, sure, that's a new interpretation of a hoedown. I, I appreciate, I appreciate a Mozart moment at the hoedown. I, you know, sort of a hybrid tea party, garden party hoedown. Sure, go for it.

[D]

It. Well, it's definitely something to be like, I'm rich. I had a violinist following people. Nobody wants that. Nobody, nobody is like, you know what I really needed today? Some violinist following me around playing some. I don't. What is this song? Do you do like, do you know any, like Charlie xx?

[C]

But it's also like, it's like if you ask a kid, what is it like to be rich and like, well, there's a violinist at the party, right? Like a kid would say that. And that's. It's like, I feel I've never seen the movie Richie Rich, but I feel like Richie Rich probably becomes rich and has a party and has a violinist there. Right? But this is angel doing it. So she has this random, random violinist coming through. Cuz she's a humble woman. We forgot to mention she's super humble woman.

[D]

So the house is stunning. You know? And Ashley's like, clearly, no lack of land here. And you don't have a house big enough to sleep so much. Women sleep. Some girls land does not equal housing. I know. You dumb, dumb. So Stacy says, Poppy probably won't allow it. Oh, Angel, I brought you a little crystal for your home. And she goes, ashley, are you trying to make me love you? I just love this. Now I feel bad. Are you trying to stay in my bed? I don't even. I don't even. I didn't even know that you knew that I collect crystals. And Ashley's like, yeah, I had a sense of yeah.

[C]

And we see. We do see clips of Angel's New age moments from the season. So it's not like they're. None of them. Just don't feel like it oozes from her. So then we see our vinyl in us. And Tia's like, who does that on your wedding day?

[D]

We can hire him.

[C]

British shade. And Angel's like, okay, ladies, there's a bar over here with the specialty Mezcal drink. Mezcal. It's a drink that we discovered in New York in the Upper east side, brought there from Mexico. Apparently, you'll really enjoy it.

[D]

I would like to thank a lady named Aaron for bringing this to America. And I got Mezcal because I know that's your favorite, Giselle. Okay. And I wanted to make sure you had something that you would like. There are also toilets of flush here. You're welcome.

[C]

So Giselle's like. I mean, she's got a lot of making up to do, so. But she's, like, happy. She's like, okay, Angel, I see you. I mean, it's funny how flat, like, the simplest flattery will start to turn someone. And then. Then Stacy goes. Angel is showing more excitement for Giselle than her own husband. I'm trying to figure this out. Like, no, I feel like Angel's very excited about Bobby. I think that was a wrong take by Stacy.

[D]

Doesn't she see Bobby all the time? Like, every time Bobby comes, does she have to be like, bobby, I got you Mezcal?

[C]

Yeah. I think she's, like, really excited about Bobby. They all say, hi. And then Monique is like, hi, I'm Monique Samuels. We used to talk on the phone for, like, years and years and years. Like, years and years. Years ago when, you know, like, my ex husband mentored you. I guess I'm trying to say is I'm an even more elder wag than your wife, so just.

[D]

You might not recognize me, but I'm a wah wag. That was a wag.

[C]

Yeah. I am what your wife will look like soon enough, okay. After you guys have a bitter divorce.

[D]

I am the representation of the autobiography that your wife is going to write to herself in letters and voice notes on her phone.

[C]

If you find some love letters. If you. If you find some love letters written by your wife, just know they're coming to me. Just the metaphorical version.

[D]

He's like, yeah, I talked to you in high school. God, that was a long time ago. She's like, yeah, full circle, full circle moment. Wow.

[C]

So now then, angel brings them down to an oxygen bar, you know, because why not live relive the year 2001? All right, guys.

[D]

Doesn't want to breathe in fluorescent green food coloring. God.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What was this? Just so healthy back in. When I moved to LA in 2001, Woody Harrelson had an oxygen bar on the Sunset Strip. It was wedged right between like the Standard Hotel and like the. The Argyle or like the Argyle and whatever was right there. And it was this crazy thing. And you'd go in there, they had all these like, potions like this, and you'd go in and you just snort oxygen of different flavors.

[D]

But I just.

[C]

It was such a. That was such a trend of 2000, 2001, and just so funny that Angel's like bringing it back.

[D]

Yeah. My mom did it in Vegas and she came back and she was like, oh, my God. Vegas has this thing called oxygen. It's like, so does the world. And she's like, no, Lonnie. Like, you sit down and they put it on your face and you breathe it and you just feel. You just feel so clear. You feel so free. I'm like, mom, it's. Because normally when you breathe in, it's. It's Benson and Hedges or Virginia Slims. Okay? It's called breathing the air. Try it. Hello there. This is a two part recap. Okay, this is the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.

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