#3159 Below Deck Med S10E16 Part 1: Ba Da Ba Ba Ba - Not Luvin’ It

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3159

Below Deck Med S10E16 Part 1: Ba Da Ba Ba Ba – Not Luvin’ It

Date: January 13, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Episode Overview

This episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the sixteenth episode of Below Deck Mediterranean Season 10, part one of a recap extravaganza. The hosts dissect the ongoing (and often infuriating) crew drama—especially between Joe, Kizzy, and V—as well as Max’s endless incompetence, guest quirks, and the surprisingly deep metaphor of chicken nuggets. The discussion mixes classic Watch What Crappens irreverence with moments of unexpected empathy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Extended Season Fatigue and Max's Max-imum Incompetence

• [03:35] Ben: "I've had enough. I've really had enough of this guy. Now it's time for him to leave. He's just such a piece of... he's just like a garbage piece of... is he not?"
• The hosts express their exhaustion with this 18-episode (and counting!) season, questioning Bravo’s decision to stretch the show so thin.
• Ronnie, on the contrary, is so invested he’s furious about small things: most notably, the pivotal McNugget theft by Joe and Nathan, underscoring his emotional buy-in.
• [05:24] Ronnie: "July, this chicken died for those nuggets. And you guys are just throwing them like they're nothing."
• Max continues to frustrate, struggling with basic tasks—hooking up a jet ski, for instance. The hosts agree Captain Sandy is way too tolerant of his idiocy, finding amusement where there should be firings.

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2. Team Dynamics & Sandy's "80s Sitcom Mom" Energy

• [09:14-13:22] There’s a raucous breakdown of a scene in which Nathan, perched above, shouts jet ski instructions at Max.
• Ronnie and Ben riff hilariously on "monk hair scream" (comparing Nathan's yelling to the rare sound of a rabbit in distress and the vow of silence of monks), adding vivid, comical imagery.
• Captain Sandy gets branded as having “80s sitcom mom energy,” managing the chaos with befuddled grace rather than decisive leadership.
• [12:00] Ronnie: “She just lets it go. She's like, yeah, Max is an idiot. Put him on balloon duty.”

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3. Chef Josh's Existential Crisis (and Cartoon Inner Voice)

• [14:55-19:10] The hosts debate chef Josh’s imposter syndrome, which the episode illustrates with a cartoon avatar named Dominic.
• Ronnie is not impressed with the bit: “This bit isn’t going to amount to anything.”
• Ben appreciates that Dominic’s cartoon is thinner, hotter, and more stylish than his real-life version—contrasting it with his own Bette Midler x Jabba the Hutt x Columbo inner critic.
• Both agree Josh is a solid chef, but question his hair choices and why Andy Cohen insists on crew ranking shade on WWHL.

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4. The Joe–Kizzy–V Triangle: Emotional Carnage & Hypocrisy

• [23:04] Both hosts are exasperated by Joe’s ability to pivot straight from “heartbreak” with V to openly flirting with Kizzy.
• [24:20] Ronnie: “The moment that she dumps him... there’s not like a moment of moping... It’s like right away, boom. Let’s be touchy feely with Kizzy. It just goes to show... all that crying... it’s aggravating.”
• Nathan is self-righteous about Joe’s behavior, which Ben points out is ironic given Nathan’s own flings with Kizzy right before getting back with his girlfriend, Gail.
• [25:40] Ben: “I love that Nathan’s now the moral center of the show. Like, hello, have you watched this season?”

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5. Kizzy’s Search for Love—A Costco Sample Metaphor

• Discussion goes deeper on Kizzy’s motives, relating her romantic woes to “Costco samples”—giving away pieces of herself in hopes someone will “buy” her, only to be left empty.
• [32:47] Ben: “They’ll take what you’re offering, but they’re not taking you, because you’re not offering the right things... At the end of the day, people would have appreciate the free things they got from him. But he still felt empty when he went home. And I feel like that’s Kizzy.”
• The hosts debate whether Kizzy is a “hopeless” or “hopeful” romantic.

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6. Lies, Excursions, and Shifting Alliances

• Kizzy takes guests on excursions, joking about making up facts, while V genuinely studies to give accurate information.
• Ben and Ronnie agree that while Kizzy’s flippancy is sometimes charming, her general disregard for others’ feelings and willingness to lie is more deeply troubling.
• [52:31] Ronnie: “That’s my issue with Kizzy. There are certain moments where she’s very blunt, and it gives the veneer of her being a truth-teller, but she’s not a truth-teller... she’s still a liar, okay. And she’s duplicitous. I’m sorry.”

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7. Crew Confrontations & Denial

• Nathan confronts Joe about flirting with Kizzy, but Joe shrugs it off: “I’m just being myself,” minimizing the impact of his actions.
• Frustration mounts as neither Joe nor Max shows remorse or self-awareness, but both expect others to accommodate their “personalities.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Max’s Incompetence & Sandy’s Management
  • Ronnie [12:00]: “She just lets it go. She’s like, yeah, Max is an idiot. Put him on balloon duty.”
• On Eating Tomatoes Like Apples
  • Ben [21:36]: “You even get like a little tomato juice squirt on something, which you will if you eat a tomato raw. That’s gonna smell like a dumpster after a day.”
• Costco Sample Analogy for Kizzy
  • Ben [32:47]: “They’ll take what you’re offering, but they’re not taking you... he still felt empty when he went home. And I feel like that’s Kizzy.”
• On Asia’s Takedown of Kizzy
  • Asia (quoted by hosts, [43:47]): “She just steals other men cuz she’s very insecure.”
• Imposter Syndrome Musings
  • Ben [18:35]: "The voice in my head is like Bette Midler, Tyne Daly, Jabba the Hutt, and Columbo all rolled into one…"
• On Joe’s “Consistency”
  • Ben [50:58]: “I will say, Joe is consistent. Say a lot about Joe, but can’t call him inconsistent.”

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Notable Timestamps

• McNuggetgate and Max discourse: 05:24–08:58
• Chef Josh’s inner Dominick: 14:55–19:30
• Joe-Kizzy-V triangle heat up: 23:04–25:40, 29:48–34:37
• Kizzy’s Costco analogy: 32:17–32:47
• Kizzy makes up tour facts: 51:34–53:36
• Nathan confronts Joe about flirting: 54:37–55:36
• Ben admits error on Chicken Nugget-gate (meta moment): 47:34–48:41

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Tone & Style

Ben and Ronnie bring their trademark snark, absurdity, and endearingly passionate tangents to the recap. They move between biting humor, over-the-top metaphors (monk hair, rest stop burgers), and occasional real talk about relationships, self-worth, and emotional health—all while openly critiquing the cast’s behavior.

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For Newcomers: Essential Takeaways

If you missed Below Deck Med S10E16 or just want the lowdown, Ben and Ronnie’s take is that:

• Max and Joe are exhausting, each blinded by self-involvement and getting slack from Captain Sandy.
• The love triangle is a hot mess of misplaced passions and double standards.
• Kizzy needs better boundaries and self-respect, as she’s “the Costco sample table” of the boat.
• Chef Josh’s talent is real; his cartoon alter ego is confusing but memorable.
• Amid chaos, the hosts’ delight in petty crew drama is as infectious as ever.

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Catch Part 2 for more chaos, confrontation, and as always, plenty of Crappens cackling!

Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Know.

[Asia]

Well.

[Ronnie]

Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the glorious, hilarious, lovable. And what else? What other adjective do you want? Ronnie? Really should stop at 3. Comedies and threes and fives, as you always say. I go to four. I like to go to four.

[Ben Mandelker]

How are you?

[Ronnie]

Hi Ronnie, how's it going?

[Ben Mandelker]

How are you? Good. We look like a stage managers convention today. We're both in our flax dark grays.

[Ronnie]

We came out from the curtains. We are about to strike a set. But before we do that, it's exciting times around here. So the golden crappies we've mentioned they're going to be February 27th in Los Angeles at the Fonda Theater. It's a tremendous night for us. It's always exciting because everyone bring the whole Bravo fan community together. We root on our favorites, beboo, the ones we hate, et cetera. It's such a fun night. We always have special guests, we always have podcasters, we always have various Bravo liberties, things like that. So it's a great time. We hope you join us. The tickets have been on sale for about three days. Theater's already halfway sold out. So I'm just gonna say if you want to go, definitely get your tickets because I think this one may sell out. I don't want to be. I don't want to be presumptuous, but I don't want to be. I don't want anyone to be left out in the cold on this one. But the good news is there will also be live streaming, but that is not up and ready yet. So go to watch what crappens.com the Ticket link is there. It's also on our socials at watchworkrappens, on Instagram and other places and we really hope you can join us. We also are crafting the ballot so we're going to be putting out. We've already put one out, put out some feelers out on Reddit. There'll be some on social media. So help us make this ballot. We're going to have a fun time. So there's that. Also on Patreon we do our bonus episodes every week and we're talking traders. So if you are a trader's head like we are, come join us for that patreon.com watch crappens and here's an extra perk. Our ad free is now available on Patreon too. It's all in one place at long last. So if you want ad free, go to Patreon. That's all the really big news that I think that I have. Is there any more big news? Is there possibly any other news in the world right now, Ronnie, beyond what we.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, nothing's going on in the world, which is crazy. Pretty chill time here, especially in America. Pretty chill over here.

[Ronnie]

I love a slow news cycle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pretty peaceful and chill over here in America. Guys, we're doing great. Everybody's doing great.

[Ronnie]

Everyone's happy, everyone's.

[Ben Mandelker]

So let's get to some Below Deck. We're really. What do we have to worry about? Kizzy making with somebody. Joe making out with somebody. Max. It's a wave runner problem, guys. It's. It's an easy world. Let's jump into that. The real.

[Ronnie]

For a while, this episode really got me mad, really got me angry. Mainly because of Joe. Like, Joe, it's like, I've had enough. I've really had enough of this guy. Now it's time for him to leave. He is. He's just. He's such a piece of. He's just like a garbage piece of, is he not?

[Ben Mandelker]

He is. I mean, look, here's the most annoying thing about this show to me, that it's still going. This is episode 16. End this. End it, End it. Cut the cord. Okay, that's it. And it. I don't need 18 episodes of below Deck. What was this going to be, a 37 episode season? I don't need it. I don't need it. There's a reason that wind is only on Netflix. 10 episodes a season. That's all we need of Wind. Okay? Captain Sandy doesn't get more. And I don't get. I don't need more of Captain Sandy. Okay? This is enough.

[Ronnie]

I'm okay with it. I'm invested.

[Ben Mandelker]

12 episodes. This is Below Deck. Give them 12 episodes. That's it.

[Ronnie]

I'm honestly invested. I feel like with Below Deck, it's like, I don't know, like this one. I'm feeling it. I really am. And God, I love a show that can give us a McNugget cliffhanger. Like, what's gonna happen? And by the way, the reason why I'm so angry. I'm really. I really don't like the way Joe treats V. And the way he's, like, trying to cast her as, like, some crazy person. But even more so, I'm furious that he and Nathan ate Kathy's McNuggets because she deserves her McNuggets. And if I'm drunk at the end of the night and someone eats my McNuggets, I am like, you don't even know. You don't even know, bro. Like you're gonna see a side of me you don't want to see. And I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you two? Eating someone else's McNuggets and then throwing your half eaten pieces of their food at them while they're potentially kissing someone.

[Ben Mandelker]

July, this chicken died for those nuggets. And you guys are just throwing them like they're nothing. I mean, it just goes to prove you've got Joe, who's an asshole because of reasons we're gonna say a million more times today. Nathan's an asshole for reasons I'm sure we'll say a million more times today. But Max, I think, is getting off easy because he's the only one kind of being nice to a woman at the moment. And so everybody's like, oh, my God, he must be the sweet one. No, he's not. He's a waster of gelatinous chick. That's not to be. And then look what he does the second he throws someone else's chicken nuggets. He's the victim. He's the victim. He's the one that's been hurting this whole thing because he's not getting enough attention. You just threw chicken nuggets. You should be put to death. You should be hung over the side of that boat, not cry. I'm not going to cry for you. I'm not crying for you.

[Ronnie]

I'm not crying for Mac. Well, Max drives me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Behead him. Behead him.

[Ronnie]

Enough. All of them have a women only boat. How about that? So we start off.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, because this is Bravo. So one of them is going to be Malia. Okay? Bravo's not just gonna. And listen, I love that. Bravo inflames me, you know? And I love it. And I say end the show because I do believe that they need shorter seasons on this. But I still enjoy it. I mean, it's still below deck. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna cry. I'm still gonna eat my dessert. You know what I mean?

[Ronnie]

Well, I. Yeah, I'M I'm at that point of the season where I'm invested over stupid shit like McNuggets. And let's just get into it. So where we last left, Max was struggling with hooking a jet ski to a hook because he kept on standing on the back of the jet ski. And now we have, we learn with greater detail that the issue is that he kept on jumping off the jet ski, causing jet ski to sort of flip upwards and not connect with the hook the way it's supposed to. And he's supposed to be jumping off gently. Like everyone knows. Hello. As Dr. Heavenly would say, no doy, no doy, no Doyle by Dr. Heavenly.

[Ben Mandelker]

Guys. No Dory, Daddy.

[Ronnie]

No dory.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Nathan's just doing what Nathan does, which is screaming at him with monk hair from above. When the guy can.

[Ronnie]

Monk hair scream is bad because, you know, like those monks take a vow of silence. So if it's a scream, it's the worst kind.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. Stick with your haircut and just vow to be silent.

[Ronnie]

It's like, you know when a rabbit gets, you know, when the rabbit's like getting attacked. Have you ever heard the sound of a rabbit being attacked? It's like, it's a terrifying blood curdling scream. It sounds like a child has been stabbed. It's like, you know, bunnies don't like make noise. They're just like hopping around and they're quiet. But then when they are cornered, the noise that they do make is petrifying. And I feel like that's what happens with monk hair. Is that like, if monk here, you're supposed to have a vow of silence. So if they do scream, it's going to be like something that's soul shattering.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, they're not, they're not really like into being silent. They're just silent because they have really annoying voices. So they're like, I guess I'm going to be a monk. They learn when they go on their first roller coaster. Okay, I'm finally tall enough to ride this ride.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, everyone hates them. Like, I guess I'm gonna become a monk, get me a bowl, cut my hair, I'm going into the monkdom.

[Ronnie]

All those silent film stars, you know, they all lost their jobs because once they started to have to talk, everyone realized they hated their voices.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, yeah, that was Singing in the Rain. Remember the beautiful actress? They, they went to talkies and she was like, hey, what am I dumb or something?

[Ronnie]

They all sound like Ramona laughing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, so Nathan is screaming from above. You got to fix it in the water. You fix it in the water. And Max is like, oh, I'm in the air. I'm not touching water. I'm in the air.

[Ronnie]

Max screams out something. He sounds so French. He sounds like a French cartoon. He goes, oh, you'll do it. His voice is like all gravelly when he screams. I don't know how to do it. He's like, mark, you got to be quiet. You got to be. They come hook at Max. You got to hook at Max.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're just, fix it in the water. Fix it in the water. So they're arguing and Captain Sandy's like, guys, I am trying to watch Wind. Phylicia Rashad is in a raft and she's about to go under because the big villain just came. The villain's name is Wind. I can't hear every anything over you two screaming and yelling. You can't do that in front of Phylicia Rashad.

[Ronnie]

She's having a very serious, award worthy monologue. Be quiet, guys. So they're just arguing. And Max, like, they are two meters away. They go up, they're all but down. And Jet skis like, oh, it's like a strap. Like, I'm trying to get this wrap. And like, what are you smoking at? This is someone is a smoking. You're yelling at someone. It's like a bonjour.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's not listening. Well, say it again. I didn't hear what you said.

[Ronnie]

I'll be saying, what are you talking about?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, he's not listening to his boss. Get off the jet ski, Max. He's really boiling me. He's really boiling me up. I'm going to prove it by all the nothing that I do in this episode, even though there's totally a deckhand sitting in a hotel that I'm in love with that I would love to have more time with, but I can't think to fire Max and hire her back for the final two episodes because I'm a dingus. I'm a dingus. What are you doing? Get rid of Max. You have the perfect example. You have the perfect reason right now to get rid of Max. Do it.

[Ronnie]

I. I thought it was going to happen because later on, as we'll see, he calls up Galen's like, there's something I've been mulling over. I want to propose to you. So I was like, aha, it's going to happen. But it didn't happen. So Sandy comes down. She's like, okay, well, you know what? I had to press Pause right in the middle of Felicia's monologue. So what's going on down here? Oh, well, it's too rough. Max is too rough. Getting off the Jet Ski. When you jump off the Stam, you're sinking the bottom of the Jet Ski and the strap should go forward. And that's exactly what keeps on happening. Okay, well, you know what you got to do next time. Okay, Just going to put this out there. Put the qualified person on the hard thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Right?

[Ronnie]

So put Joe on there and put Max on lollipop duty. Okay, Just a little hint from your captain who got her favorite show interrupted. Thanks so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

You just got to figure out where to put your people. Who is this? Was this Captain Sandy? What happened to everybody should be competent? You know, I feel like Captain Sandy, like, changes depending on who it is, you know, which I guess we all do. You know, we base our judgments on who's in front of us. But it's a little annoying because I feel like she's amused by Max. Because you see her smiling. Like, half the shit that Max does. She sees him through her little window and she's like, hold on, Felicia. Okay. Hold that monologue. God, that guy's funny. Gotta love that Max Banana. I love that Max, Nana. Love him. She's, like, amused, so she just lets it go. She's like, yeah, Max is an idiot. Put him on balloon duty. Don't we have some balloons to blow up? That would be fun. Hey, have you ever asked Max to tie a balloon into a giraffe? That would be funny. I'll bet he makes a French giraffe. What am I, psychic? Ask him to do it.

[Ronnie]

Sandy is definitely giving 80s sitcom mom energy this season where, like, she opens a closet and, like, five things fall on her head, and then she looks at the camera and just smiles. Like those wacky kids like in the opening credits. It's like Nell Carter pulling the. Pulling the. Dust buster out of the fish tank, you know? Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like Sandra Yawn.

[Ronnie]

And introducing Captain Sandra Yawn.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey. And her wife just answering the phone. Hi, baby.

[Ronnie]

Special guests are Little Bear, who's actually a dog.

[Ben Mandelker]

Al's trying to eat. Little Bear? No. Wow. It's not a cat. You know, no matter how Max is acting, you know. Listen, is Mac. Is Max acting like the little rat from Ratatouille? Sure. But, you know, you can't scream at him. He's not going to be able to make a soup. Okay, and what's Ratatouille without a good soup? Nobody. He's Mausatouille. No one's going to buy tickets to that movie title. Doesn't even make sense. But you know what? You got to do it away from the boat if you're going to yell at somebody because everyone can hear you. He's got to learn to pause. And when something's not working, he's got to change it. Speaking of pausing, look at Phylicia Rashad paused in the middle of that. It's a good one. She's about to talk about tornadoes.

[Ronnie]

Funny story. I once wrote a letter to Disney Pixar and said, why wasn't Felicia Rashad and Ratatouille? And furthermore, I thought Ratatouille was about a rat version of R2D2, but I guess that didn't work out. Oh, well. Signed Captain Sandy Han.

[Ben Mandelker]

Guess I'll just dive holding my breath, waiting for rat cpo.

[Ronnie]

I guess we won't have rat Star wars anytime soon. But maybe you should think about it. As long as you're turning rats into food critics, why don't you turn them into something more important, like little robots that can save the universe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just switch them up. That's all you gotta do. That's all you gotta do.

[Ronnie]

Okay, you put a little mask on them, you don't even see the stormtroopers faces anyway. But you tell people they're rats. It's so much more entertaining.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So she leaves like, okay, I just solved the problem. We have an incompetent person who's putting the guests at risk again and again, over and over and not listening to anything. You know what? Just give him a raise.

[Ronnie]

That's what I say. Yeah, give him a raise. So over in the. In the kitchen, Josh is flummoxed because he's trying to play to dinner and he has. He's going through his own existential crisis, which I think is relatable to every American, dare I say every human on the planet. Captain Sandy wants plated. Asia wants Synchronized service. The guests want tapas. And I'm trying to take what everybody is saying to me on board, but the imposter syndrome is really starting to show up. I'm like, put food on a plate. I think that's. That's like the. Guess what? Tapas is. Small plates. Plated food. Small plates. Synchronized service. Small plates. Put food on a small plate. It's simple.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I don't really. I don't. I'm sorry. I don't really understand what's so difficult about putting shit on a plate. And I think Josh is a good chef. I think Josh has really shown himself to be very, very good. I don't think there's been any complaints except for that vegan idiot. But I think that he's been pretty good. Now, I will say his hair is stupid and he was on Watch what Happens Live. And I. His hair was even stupider. So I have to hand it to him that he's willing to go that far in being stupid looking with his hair. But he's a good chef and just put things on a plate, you know? I agree with you. Also, just a side note, he said, they said, out of all the girls, who is the worst worker or something? That wasn't the exact question. It was like, who's not the best worker? I don't know. It was something. And he answered Kizzy, which I thought was pretty bizarre. So it kind of goes to show you that this guy is kind of like other guys, petty. Even though he's acting nice, it's like, oh, he didn't get the girl he wants. So now all of a sudden it's like, well, I didn't want you anyway.

[Ronnie]

Bitch, you're fast. Was. Was he. Was he. I wonder if he was asked about everyone on the boat or just in the interior. Because if he chose, oh, okay, I think, you know, who's he got to choose from? It's like, Kathy. It's not gonna be Kathy. It's not gonna be Asia. Well, is there someone left? Was there?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, but how would it be any of them, really? Why would you say. I mean, I don't know. I know that those questions are. I know that those questions are designed to make. To cause fights and stuff. I think those are bad questions anyway. Like, you people on watch, what happens? Like, why are you making them diss each other? I get that Andy does it because then it. Reunions. He started a fight, and then the whole reunion becomes about his. His show. But I get why they do it, but I don't think it's cool to do that. And why can't you just say, like, they're all great. I'm not going to pick somebody for your stupid, stupid energy. Sorry, I already came here with a stupid haircut for you. I'm not going to go down to that level.

[Ronnie]

But also, why do we have Josh on last night's? Watch what happens live after this episode. Like, this is an episode where we needed Joe Bradley on there and we need Andy to grill him. Although I don't know if Andy has a crush on him or not, because if Andy has a crush on him, then, like, it would be like a useless endeavor. But they're really trying to do something with Josh here. Josh seems like, like you said, he's. He seems like a good chef, but he's been a little bit of a dud on the personal storyline. So they're, they're, they're trying so hard. They've had him get into his clown makeup umpteen times. They put him with his guitar. And now they've gone to a new, like, they've broken into a new frontier with Josh. This episode where he talks about how he has an imposter syndrome. And they said, what does your. Does the voice in your head have a name? And he says, dominic. He's got black hair for some reason, and he's almost like a little bit goth. And they put like this cartoon avatar on screen. And then the cartoon avatar talks to us and says, you ain't gonna amount to anything, mate. I'm like, no, this bit isn't going to amount to anything.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sorry. I loved that little cartoon. I thought he was. I did it.

[Ronnie]

I love it. I was like, this is serious.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was jealous that his inner voice was so thin and had hair because mine isn't. Mine is like Java the Hutt. And it's like, loser, Loser. Call dominoes. That's all you could do right now with your life called domino. That's mine. Mine's horrible. His is, like hot. I think his is, like, hot.

[Ronnie]

I will say his. His inner voice did seem like it had better posture than me. So maybe I was just jealous.

[Ben Mandelker]

It had good posture, had good fashion sense. It had cute hair. It had a nice little earring. I mean, I was like, you can't talk about your low self confidence when your imposter is even, like, castable. You know what I mean? Like, I'd cast him.

[Ronnie]

I didn't like the imposter's hair, though, to be sure. To be fair, it was Giving me a little bit like, Adam Lambert, 2005, you know, it was just such an.

[Ben Mandelker]

Improvement over Josh's hair. You know, like, who's imposter? Who's like, who has imposter syndrome? But their, like, character in their head is way hotter than them. It just doesn't make sense.

[Ronnie]

I just never really thought of the voice inside my head as actually having, like, a corporal presence. I just thought it was just a voice in my head. But now that I know that it could actually be something from, like, the Nintendo Wii, I'm like, oh, okay, well, maybe I should think about that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. The voice in my head is like, Bette Midler, Tyne Daly, Jabba the Hutt, and Columbo all rolled into one horrible, horrible person just berating me all day and chain smoking, you know, mine's Frances McDormand.

[Ronnie]

Just Francis McDormand being like, oh, yeah, all right. Well, you did that. Well, are you proud of yourself? Proud of yourself that you did that? Made a. Tried to make a joke? You interrupted Ronnie to tell a bad joke. You proud of what you did?

[Ben Mandelker]

You're like, I didn't finish my peloton today. I just got him such a fucking loser. It's like, up. Guess what just won another Oscar. So.

[Ronnie]

Hi, Fran. Hi, Fran. She always says hi to, like, strangers to be friendly. Yeah, that's what she did in all Nomadland. She just walked around saying hi to strangers. Hi, you're looking good. You did your dishes today. You look good. But then she's salty to everyone she knows.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we see Dominic, and we've got mixed reviews on Dominic. I loved him, but not so much. Joe asks if Max is okay, and Max is clearly pissed. And Joe is like, we'll deal with it later. We'll deal with the later, mate. And, you know, he's like, oh, Nathan really doesn't know how to deal with Max. The way to deal with Max is to just pat him on the shoulder and tell him he's right about everything. I'm doing a great job as lead Deccan, eh?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, really killing it. The guests are talking about tomatoes, and one guy, he likes to eat them, like an apple. And he. And specifically when he drives, because someone's like, imagine going and picking up a tomato and biting into it. And this guy's like, I do that. I do that when I drive. So this guy takes tomatoes into his car and he bites into them like an apple, which I think is wild, but I have heard of people doing that. But it also seems so messy. Like, he must be just eating like unripe tomatoes, because if you're in your car, I am not biting into a juicy, ripe tomato because that's going everywhere.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think the people eat in their cars. My God, I've eaten such nasty stuff in my car. Like a Burger King burger, you know, back like now I'll eat the, the miracle meat or whatever the that's called. But like, you eat that, it just slops all over you. I mean, cars are disgusting places. We shouldn't, we shouldn't be eating in there. But I. Tomatoes especially, like, you even get like a little tomato juice squirt on something, which you will. If you eat a tomato raw, you're going to get some squirt and that's gonna, that's gonna smell like a dumpster. Even one little squirt of it will smell like a dumpster after a day.

[Ronnie]

But also, like, you're gonna show up at work every day with some tomato schmutz. I kind of feel like if you're gonna eat tomatoes in the car, just get a carton of like cherry tomatoes because you can just pop them in and they actually generally taste better than most, you know, off season tomatoes. So, like, this guy's not only committed to messy, but he's committed to, like, shitty tomatoes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I mean, at least get like cherry tomatoes. The peanut M and Ms. Of tomatoes. Yeah, like it's something cherry or a grape something.

[Ronnie]

One bite, one bite. Come on, let's, come on, let's get together.

[Ben Mandelker]

Be respectful of our driving spaces. So, yeah, the guests are talking about tomatoes. They're great, they're great casting. So Nathan's like, you know, this is how you get off a jet Ski without moving, lifting the straps. I don't jump off the jet Ski like Max. I left myself off it nice and easy. And I want. That's how you do it in your relationships too. I want Joe and V to watch how it's done because this is the way it's going to be done for the rest of the season.

[Ronnie]

Okay. So they, so he shows them and they're like, okay, cool. And then Joe, meanwhile, is like, oh, I need to go to Horse with Kizzy because we have to do a dance.

[Ben Mandelker]

So no one wants to see you fucking dancing during their day. Below deck needs to stop this. Let's let the crew entertain the people. I do. It's like watching people's kids, you go to their house. Like, my kid's gonna put on a play. You have to watch her play. Was I the kid who Put on the play. I was that kid. I did great plays. So I'm taking myself out of this example because I was a good playwright as a child. My sister got murdered in every play, as sisters should. But no one else wants to watch your kids do plays. And that's what this is like. Like, look, our kids are gonna dance in dirty socks. Like, I don't wanna see Kizzy do her fucking made up things she learned in fifth grade ballroom. You're not going to be on Dancing with the Stars, okay? It's over. Pack up your stuff and go.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And they're just, they're dance, they're practicing and they're flirting and they're giggling and they're laughing and V is right there. And this also just goes to show how full of it Joe is. I mean, we don't. I don't need to underline this. We all know. But it's just another piece of evidence because here he goes, spending weeks on end talking about what I have with Victoria is special. It's so special.

[Asia]

Oh, I don't want to lose. I've never had something like this before. I'm special. I don't know if I can. Doing the special.

[Ben Mandelker]

Special.

[Ronnie]

The moment that she dumps him, which was last episode on this charter. It's like there's not like a moment of like moping around or like, please, I really think that, like, I would love it if you take me back. I was a huge mistake. Been beating myself up. Like, not like a shred of regret. It's like right away, boom. Let's be touchy feely with Kizzy. It just goes to show. All that crying that he did, just, it's just such like. So obviously it's just, it's. It's aggravating.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, what happens when you let a fish off a hook? It goes back to swimming in the water. That's all he's doing. You know, he got, he got let off the hook and he's like, back, back in business, you know? And part of it's probably like, oh, she dumped me. Well, she'll have to watch me do ballroom dancing now. And you know, Kissy just gets to be Kizzy, which I think is a reward unto itself.

[Ronnie]

Isn't it always? So Nathan is upset by this. He's like, they're searching and they're skickling over there in front of V. That's so selfish. He needs to reel it in big time. Nice callback. Unintentional Tarani's fish off a hook metaphor. He just did. But he needs to reel it in big time, because what's happening between them two, it's not good.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'd just like to remind Nathan that he tried to have sex with Kizzy two days before Gail came back. Okay, moving on. I love that Nathan's now, like, the moral center of the show. He's like the. That's just not right. That's not right what he's doing. Like, hello. Have you watched this season now? Yes. You technically weren't with Gail, but you were still calling her every night. Like, I miss you. All I want is you. All I need is you. You're all I need in my life while you're still trying to get in Kizzy's pants. And then you couldn't. And two days later, suddenly you're in love with Gail, and you can't. You can't live without her. I can't with this guy, but go ahead.

[Ronnie]

Kizzy is like that Roy Rogers on the Jersey Turnpike. You know, you stop over there for a little bit, you have a nice meal, sort of fun guilty pleasure, and then keep on going to where you have to go. And whether that happens before you get to your destination or on your way back from the destination, that's just what Kizzy is at this point.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kizzy had a rest stop burger. She's just a place to eat while mom pees.

[Ronnie]

So Nathan went to the rest stop before he got to Gail, and Joe's going to the rest stop after he went to V. And that's just. That's just the way it is.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is why gays used to hang out at rest stops. So there's more food. More food is being served. There's a squid ink paella, which to me, just sounds like poop rice. I don't. That's just too. I don't want that. I don't want it. And there's a meat paella, too. And everybody loved it. And now it's time for the kids to come out and do a dance for the parents, friends. And so they come out, and it's an awkward. It's an awkward dance. It's not great. Kizzy has very dirty socks, and I can't get over it. It's bugging me. Did it bug you?

[Ronnie]

There's squid ink socks, sir.

[Ben Mandelker]

You put so much work into this.

[Ronnie]

I just feel like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Put on some socks. It's gross.

[Ronnie]

I know. And, you know, her dancing really is a great springboard into explaining so much of her backstory. So she tells us. My parents got Divorced when I was maybe four. And so me and my sister growing up, saw a lot of different men come into cars because Mum wanted that relationship, that person. And she was like me. Like, I'm actually such a hopeless romantic. Like, oh, my God. Oh, I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

A poor thing to be. I mean, I. When she said that, when she's like, you know, my mom wanted that relationship, that person, she was like, me. No, Kizzy, you're like her, and it's sad. And you need to recognize Roy Rogers.

[Ronnie]

Rest stop. I just want to be a proper restaurant.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just want to be an A.

[Ronnie]

W. But she's wait staff.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I just thought this was really sad that she's, like, romanticizing her mom, prioritizing men over her kids. Like, yikes. I hope she's watching this season of Salt Lake City and really, you know, learning something, because this was sad to watch. But I thought she was gonna be like, you know, my mom would prioritize men, and that's why I don't take men seriously, because I know they're all pieces of shit. But she's like, no, my mom prioritized men, which is right. And that's why I do it, too. I just want that. I was just so sad. It's like, look at the patterns, you know, and then erase them.

[Ronnie]

I feel like on paper it's sad. But I wasn't moved to sadness. I was like, oh, this is just another below deck thing, you know? And she's like, it's so funny. It's just the way I behave. Like, I generally do want to really like soppy stuff. Well, she says that, like, she's like, I'm actually. I hope it's romantic, but it's funny because it's so polar opposite just the way that I behave because, like, I generally. Do you really want, like, soppy stuff. And I don't know, I think with Joe, there's some kind of spark. Or maybe it's just the grease in his hair, but maybe this could be something more. Maybe he's a love my life. We'll see. I'm gonna tell you right now, he is not. And I'm not saying that just because the fact that you were already engaged to the guy you dumped so that way you could screw around on this show.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it seems like what she's saying when she's saying, like, I'm a romantic like my mom. First of all, that's ick because it doesn't sound like your mom was really a romantic. It sounds like she was desperate for like male. Not attention, but like, what do you call it? Like, you're doing great. Assurance, reassurance. Like, sorry, I'm an idiot, but it sounds like approval. Approval is what I'm trying to say. And she. It sounds like she really wants romance but doesn't believe in it. So instead she's going to, like, reel men in with this. Like, oh, look at me just having fun. But she's hoping that ultimately it's something more than that. And it's. I don't know, it's like, that's not how to get it, you know? And I understand being younger and thinking that way. I mean, there were. You know, I've thought, I'm not above thinking like that, especially in my younger years. But it's sad to see it, you know, because you just give men like Joe fuel.

[Ronnie]

What do you think is more evidence of being a hopeless romantic? Meeting a guy, falling in love, and just like, going head first into a relationship or meeting several men and sampling the goods, hoping that you'll find the one. Because I feel like everyone thinks the hopeless romantic is the one who just commits, like, to one person is like, I'm in love. This is it. But I almost wonder if Kizzy sampling lots of goods is actually more of a hopeless romantic thing because you're like, one of these guys has to be the one, right? I'm just keep on looking under stones until I find.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think, yeah. And I think even further. It's like, one of these will fight for me, you know, like, one of these is going to be like, no, you don't like everyone else. You really want me. I'm the one, you know, and like, kind of talk you into it, but you don't make yourself a prize. I guess when you're with. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what it is because I think you do have to sample the goods. I mean, Costco's successful for a reason. They have samples. You go to Costco, you eat all the shit, and you maybe buy one of the things, you know, one of those things wins.

[Ronnie]

I think that if you meet a guy and he tells you whatever he tells you, and you're like, this is the one, and you just put on blinders, I think that makes you a hopeless romantic. But I think if you're. If you're just. You're kissing a whole bunch of guys, hoping that one of them will be the one where this. It'll. This will be the one, I think that makes you a hopeful romantic. Because you're hopeful that something. One of these things will work out, but the other person is really like, kind of like, I'm just gonna build a narrative around this person to fit my narrative. And. And you're sort of like, oh, they're in a hopeless situation because they're not gonna listen to reason.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I see.

[Ronnie]

That's my. That's my. Off the. You know, off the top of my head, kind of like, quick assessment about something I really don't care about.

[Ben Mandelker]

But you know what I have to say, because I talked about Costco, now I've got Costco in my head because, like, who doesn't love Costco? I do. I love it. I could use a better picture for my Costco card.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

I could use a retake. But I will say I do love it. But what I was saying earlier is, like, there's a lot of samples in Costco, right? So you go try all the samples, and you may. Maybe you'll buy one and take one home. But guess what? You don't buy the person giving out the samples. No one buys that person. At the end of the day. My papa would just come home at the end of the day tired. You know, he's like, I gave so much to so many people, and nobody bought me. Like, nobody wanted me. And I feel like that's Kizzy.

[Ronnie]

So she is both the one giving out the samples, but also doing the sample. Like, she's basically. She has a tray of samples, but she's walking around Costco with her tray of samples, trying other people's samples, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

And no, no, she's the person giving away the samples, but nobody ultimately picks her. They pick what she's giving. You know what I mean? So they. They'll take what you're offering, but they're not taking you because you're not offering the right things. Or, you know, my papa was never offering himself. He was never like, ha, my name is Rondel Tiff as Mullins. And, you know, this is. These are my dreams and aspirations. He was just like, would you like a little piece of gelatin chicken, you know, flavored with barbecue sauce? And so at the end of the day, people would have appreciate the free things they got from him. But he still fel empty when he went home.

[Ronnie]

Right, because he. He gave out so many samples.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he did love that job, though.

[Ronnie]

It's a fun job, you have to admit. Well, I think we figured out Kizzy, which is. She still sucks anyway.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's the rest stop. She's a rest Stop Burger. Giving out samples and going home alone.

[Ronnie]

She's like a rest stop. Costco rest stop. She's like the $50 hot dog at Costco without the Costco attached.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I think it's just. She's just miss aiming, you know? I think she just doesn't know what to do. I believe that this person wants love. She just doesn't know how to go about getting it. And it's going to be really rough for her, disregarding everyone around her feelings, because people are going to disregard her feelings, as we see. Because. Do you think Joe's going to do anything for her? No. Joe's going to dump her the second the cameras turn off.

[Ronnie]

She's just on the wrong TV show. She needs to be on Love Island. She's bringing Love island energy to blow Deck. And this is just.

[Ben Mandelker]

She'd be a hero on that show.

[Ronnie]

She'd be a hero. She would actually kill it on Love Island. Everyone would be like, oh, we love Kizzy because she knows what she wants and she's not afraid. And she's also. I hate her. But she also stirs up a lot of drama. But on Below Deck, you're just like, fuck you. Get out of here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, because it's not the dating around. I mean, you're young. You should be dating around. You should be trying all the goods. It's the disregard for everybody else around her that's making her gross. Anyway, that's enough about Kizzy.

[Ronnie]

Jeez. Well, Nathan is in his Venezuela.

[Ben Mandelker]

Am I right?

[Ronnie]

So Nathan is. Nathan's in his cab and he texts Gail, and he's like, you would be so annoyed, Jaws back to his old tricks, flirting with Kezzy in front of me.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, poofy.

[Ronnie]

It's like, ah. And then we see Max and Kathy, and they're like. They're relaxing, and Max is saying, oh, I nearly fight. I'll nearly, like, fight Nathan. And she's like, all right, well, I'm bored. Don't tell me any more about it. I'm going to sleep. Goodbye. And then we go back to Nathan, and he's basically saying to Gail what we saw talked about before, which is he's like, hey, can we talk tomorrow? Because I've been mulling over something I want to ask you. And I, since you put the theory in my head, was excited that it was coming true that Max would be fired. Even for one charter. To not have Max on would be such a relief for me as an audience member.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Gail, I had hope for Gail because she just gave a thumbs up to the message. And that is universal Bravo code for your bitch, as we all learned in season one of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. So I was like, oh, God, maybe she's finally going to stand up for herself with this guy.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben Mandelker]

And then we go to Kathy and Max, and she's like, all right, you're going to be a good boy tomorrow, aren't you? No pissing anyone. Move. He's like, I could do it. I was only hitting the L.

[Ronnie]

So she says that since her stepdad died, Max has been there for her in the hardest of times, and he deserves someone to be there for him. I'm like, that happened three days ago. You. You're still in your mourning period, and it's like, you don't have to pivot out of your thing to go tend to him. Like, you still deserve to have him tending to you. So don't feel like this whole thing where Max. Max was bad with his job and his boss yelled at him. It's deserving of you having to shut off what you're shutting. What you're going through to have to, like, tend to his bruised ego.

[Ben Mandelker]

I say, deserve someone to be there, too. But you. You had a parental figure that passed away. Max is like fighting with a. A wave runner.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, don't throw out your. Don't throw out your grief card just yet, okay? You got a lot more miles off that one that you use. So everyone goes to bed now. It's the next morning, and Josh is making breakfast and people are setting things up. V almost gets bunked with a naughty boy.

[Ben Mandelker]

No pun intended.

[Ronnie]

That was very funny. And then Shannon Bedor at home watching. That was a very funny joke. Wow, a naughty boy. Okay, well, I'm gonna go back to watching this television show on my own because I'm alone. So Sandy is gonna move the boat closer to the castle because that's where they're going today. And she goes, well, we're headed to the to Tassa de Mar, where there's a medieval town, and the guests will go ashore and they're going to see a castle and tour the town, and it's going to be really stunning and beautiful. And with any luck, they'll have good receptions. They can watch Wind on on some antenna TV up there. Okay. They don't have cable up in the old castle, but season finale is coming up. I don't want them to miss a beat.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Nathan is showing V how to haul the anchor, and she's like, yeah, like, with the. With everything going on with Joe, I'm just, like, gonna double down on my work because I have an opportunity to establish a career on deck, and right now, that's all that matters.

[Ronnie]

So people are waking up while V is very determined to establish her career. And Kizzy's gonna be going on the excursion because she hasn't really gone on an excursion this season. And then we cut back to Captain Sandy, who's really happy, and she says, you know, at the end of this, they're going to be saying, give me Tassa Del Moore instead of Taca del Marci. You may have forgotten that we're going to Del Mar. So if you change out Mar, it becomes more. And because they want to go to. They want to do more of it because it's a good excursion. You know, I think.

[Ben Mandelker]

What?

[Ronnie]

I think that maybe you. You should be more. You should watch some more sitcoms. Come back to me, and then you'll get my joke.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, wait, wait. Hold on. A word for my imposter syndrome. Hey, can we get a little cartoon? Oh, there she is. There she is. It's me. It's me. Just. She looks just like me. She's gorgeous, isn't she? You're hilarious. No, you're hilarious. You are so funny. Do that Casa Del Moore thing again. No, you do it again. That's your joke. I'm not gonna steal that. You do it. You do it. You do it. You do it.

[Ronnie]

You know what's funny? Most imposter syndromes are internal, but I have the privilege of actually just being Norma's imposter syndrome. Hold on one second. Hey, Norma. Hey. Just want to let you know you're doing a terrible, terrible job at your job. Okay, great. Bye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay. Wow. Great joke, Bill Frostby. Okay, loser. Martina Navratilova called. She wants her hair cut back.

[Ronnie]

Gigi Fernandez called and says, you still aren't an Olympian, Norma, so quit dreaming.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, everyone else called and said, who the fuck is Gigi Fernandez anyway? Okay? Get more famous, loser.

[Ronnie]

She's. Everyone knows her more than Norma, whoever she is. That's for sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, really? Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

[Ronnie]

Wait, I'm not. I. Sorry. I. I'm had. I had a moment of doubt, which is crazy since I'm the imposter syndrome for Norma and I'm not supposed to have the doubt. It's against my brand. Sorry. You go, you go.

[Ben Mandelker]

You can't even doubt right, cat? Loser. Fucking loser. So now breakfast is being served and the guests are Talking about how Dr. Kelly is sleeping because it's the first time she's away from her kids. She doesn't ever get any sleep. And then it just cuts to her door and we hear snoring and it's like exhausted mom sleeping.

[Ronnie]

And you know, every time someone snores on the show, it's the post production layering in the sound effect from like the envato suite of like cinema tools. I mean, it's just. And they do it to everyone. They're like, oh, oh. Dr. Kelly finally gets to sleep. It's like a slide whistle on a audience. Applause.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Nathan is telling Max. We go to the swim deck and Max scares him. And he's like, oh, look at this, the boss. And Nathan is telling him to deflate the naughty boys. And he ignores Max attempt at light heartedness because Max is like, oh, we have fun together. Oh, you are boss. I'm boss too. We are like two balls together. Look at this. He's like trying to start on a good foot, but Nathan's like, I hate you now.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Nathan's not having it at all. And then V goes into the galley and she goes, she goes right by Asia and Kizzy and she doesn't say anything. So then Kizzy turns to Asia and goes, is she okay? And then it's just like, oh, yeah, she's really angry.

[Asia]

Which I think is fair because you both said you don't regret what you did. Which is really.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, oh God. It's not. It's gonna be awkward. It's just gonna be awkward the whole day on this thing. And it's like, just be nice. And so she rolls her eyes, she's like, oh my God, again. I got again this.

[Ronnie]

Because Kizzy is fishing for Asia to say, oh, she's having a tough time. But look, you guys are adults. It's no big deal. Everything okay, Kizzy? And he's just like, yeah, you guys.

[Asia]

What she did was so anyway, you can live with that now. Goodbye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Was it later? Do they bring this up again later because doesn't she say something like, well, what? Like I've already. Like, I can't do anything else. Like, yeah, but you were a dumb. So you know, she just keeps. I love that she just reiterates it to her.

[Ronnie]

She's like, no, you're a dumb bitch.

[Asia]

So just.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just say sorry and try and move on.

[Ronnie]

One I love Asia's smiling read season. That's all she does. It's so funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Asia just looks at her and she goes, good stuff. And walks off and kiss is like.

[Ronnie]

Oh, Asia has no respect for Kizzy. And I love it. Like, remember when she was just talking about Kizzy right in front of her in the hot tub?

[Asia]

She's like, this is what she does. She just steals other men. Cuz she's very insecure.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, I heard that. She's like, oh, I meant it. Yeah, I say it to your face, if that helps. I thought it would be more comfortable while you had a jet up your butt crack to hear something like that. But if you'd like to hear it now, I can do it on the.

[Asia]

Radio if you'd like. I think you're absolutely wonderful, an absolutely lovely girl and all those other things are true to you.

[Ronnie]

So my favorite line.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Asia's talking. Oh, no, first Captain Sandy's talking to Kathy because Kathy goes to clean the. Clean her room or whatever and she's like, hey, listen, you good? She's like, I'm good. Because it's okay if you're not good. No, I'm good. Look at Norma. She's never been good at anything really. God. You ever tried playing Scrabble with her? One time she tried to make a word and it was flurhootenbach. That's not a word. Looked it up. Just not a word. It's not good at anything.

[Ronnie]

Like, what sort of imposter syndrome do you have that's not checking you on floor up the bopsin? Like, why would you even write that down? Where. Where is your imposter syndrome? Well, I thought that you said you were her imposter syndrome. Oh, I guess I was. I guess I kind of failed at my job. But I'm the imposter syndrome and I'm failing at my job as an imposter. What does that mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

Do I have a. Wait, hold on. My imposter. My imposter has something to say. Say, what is it? You're so great, you don't owe anybody nothing. Norma's bad at everything. Thank you you're so good. Tell the casa de Moore joke again.

[Ronnie]

You do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

You do it.

[Ronnie]

Hey, Kathy, one more thing. Yes? I hate chocolate. There you go. Extra imposter syndrome for you too.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Asa is talking to Max and she's asking what him and Kathy are going to do. He's like, oh, blah. We need to, like, talk about. Because I like her. I see. I see. I like how she act with me. I'm seeing a new reason of love. Like, I can't believe it. You know what I mean? And this, like, warm inside me. I really like her. I cannot wait to introduce her to the mother who hates me and will probably hang up phone and not come to dinner. But who needs mother? I have girlfriend now. Oh, we are going to get married. We're going to baby, baby bom upon. I cannot wait.

[Ronnie]

Here's like, it's too much. It's just too much. I mean, he really is like a stunted 15 year old. Not even 15. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take him down to 13. Like, the way he. The way he behaves, the way he, like, listens to direction, the way he's like, all in with. With Kathy. It's like. Like somewhere along the line, someone hit pause on Max and forgot to take their go. Go back and press play again because he is. He is a stunted man. Okay, so Asia's like, you know, with.

[Asia]

Scott and I ever since we got together. Like, I was with. And then I was with him for seven weeks and then for like a month and then away for a month and then three days and then six days and there was one weekend and then eight weeks after that, then 17 weeks, and then there was one month and then six, six half days.

[Ronnie]

Like, okay, Asia, we get it. You guys are. You guys had time away from each other.

[Asia]

Yeah, but we made it work.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah, you made your still together. If it's the right person, you make it work. But I know. I know she's the one. We. We need to talk about this.

[Ronnie]

You know, the way.

[Asia]

The moment that I knew that Scott would be for me was that one time when he was professing his love to me. I just couldn't look away from him. And then some stranger started throwing chicken nuggets at our faces. And I couldn't even let that distract me. Which just goes to show that I loved him in that moment. Because if I didn't love him, I would walk away and go after those chicken nuggets. Anyway, that's something for you to think about. For some unforeseeable future events.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hold on. My imposter syndrome is talking to me. Did I accuse Max in the beginning of this episode at throwing chicken nuggets?

[Ronnie]

You did, and I.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why didn't you correct me? What is wrong with me? And why was I so into that? And why did I just realize what I did? That's so stupid. I don't know why I got so infuriated with Max. Max didn't even do that. Well, you know, I'm losing my fucking bow.

[Ronnie]

And I figured, you know what, when we come back to that scene, mean.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was a wrong flow. Don't let me do that.

[Ronnie]

I figured you would just have your own moment where you would say, oh, you know what? I. I was saying Max, but I meant so and so. And I just was like, I'm just gonna let it slide. I was like, I didn't wanna. I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

We can't even release this episode. Like, that was huge. No, you have to tell me. I mean, what the hell? You're just letting me walk into the middle of the street and get hit by all the traffic?

[Ronnie]

Because you were being, like, entertaining and I didn't wanna. I didn't want to. I don't want to.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stop it. Well, sorry to whoever quit this podcast. If you have a friend, you quit this podcast because Ronnie's such a. Tell him at least he realized he's a halfway through or a third of the way through. I don't know. We're an hour now.

[Ronnie]

Look who has the imposter syndrome. Like, did that happen?

[Ben Mandelker]

Did that Daily Bet, Midler, Jabba the Hut, and. And Columbo just all told me what a piece of I am, you know, it would have been good. I need them to have an imposter syndrome to tell them what pieces of shit they are for not criticizing me earlier when I was doing it. But anyway, sorry, everybody, but I really believed in my head for that moment. Max was down on the dock throwing up chicken nuggets at himself, I guess.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, no, that didn't. That didn't happen. Now I feel bad as a podcast co host because I have my imposter syndrome, telling me that I'm not good at this. And then my imposter syndrome just went off to work at Badlands National Park. I'm like, get. Could you just get into a house and just criticize me from one location, please, Francis? Why is she always in her van?

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Jo goes to the crew to talk about V. To talk to V or whatever, and she's just like looking at papers. And he's like, oh, are you doing. Are you studying? She's like, yeah. He's like, where are you going? The castle. She's like. So he walks away because she won't give him any energy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, good for her. So now he's like, I'm noticing that Victoria has given me the cold shoulder. Oh, wow. Master of observation. We're have to start calling you Sherlock Holmes over there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's huge. So Joe now goes up to the galley with Kathy and Josh and kiss. Kizzy is whispering to Joe. She's like, we're in trouble again because of all our flirting and all the dancing. Is it crazy my goal to romance it? No one thought would Alan here it is about to happen. They were so bad, which is so bad. Aren't we?

[Ronnie]

So then he's like, well, I mean, she's the one who said that we shouldn't carry on. And I still want to have fun for the rest of the season. And there's nothing wrong with me wanting to have a bit of fun. It's just laugh and banter, sir. It's. She doesn't care if you want to have laugh or fun. It's. You did something wrong here. You make it seem like she out of the blue just decided to halt the entire relationship because she's just a crazy woman with mercury mercurial mood swings. It's like, no, you up. And now she doesn't. She lost respect for you and now you're like mad at her for it. Like, bro, be consistent.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, he is consistent syndrome.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, he is.

[Ben Mandelker]

He. I will say Joe is consistent. So there a lot about Joe, but can't call him inconsistent. He's pretty consistent. So now they're. They're like, this is so awkward, you know, Cuz now V is stuck. V comes outside to get some fresh air and they're just standing there and so they have to kind of stand there together. And then she goes inside and they're like, oh, awkward. So now V and Kizzy are with the guests and Kizzy's like, would you like me to lie about the facts about the area? And so V laughs and she just starts making up, making upset.

[Ronnie]

You know, it's so funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

King Arthur laid down this road, tried to date me, couldn't get me.

[Ronnie]

That was something I missed. Her saying that she was gonna make up the facts. I think it must have like got distracted in that one moment. So when she was saying these facts, I was like, wow, it's so interesting that. Wow. Kizzy did her research. So for this as her first excursion, so she took the time to, like, understand where she was going. Of course, she wouldn't do that. Of course she would just blatantly lie and mislead people, because that's who Kizzy is. And that's my issue with Kizzy. Kizzy is that, like, for all of her upfront moments, there's also a lot of, like, shifty untruths. And if she could get away with lying, she would. Like, if she could have gotten away with never telling me that she kissed Joe, she would have. But then Joe felt guilty, and so it had to come out. But, like, that's the thing that's. I think that, you know, like, we can talk about, like, oh, God, I feel bad for Kizzy because she, you know, her mom, like, she grew up, like, wanting, like, to have a male figure and love, blah, blah, blah. But she's still a liar. Okay. And she's duplicitous. I'm sorry. And so is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah. Feeling bad for in that moment doesn't mean I don't. I think she's good. I mean, she's like.

[Ronnie]

We forget that, like, there's a lying component here as well. Like, she's on. She's on. There are certain moments where she's very blunt, and it gives the veneer of her being a truth teller, but she's not a truth teller. And I think it's, like, kind of shitty that you people who pay money to come onto a yacht, you just make up facts as they go on their excursion. That's. That's, like. That's bad. I think that's, like, really bad. I'm, like, more angry that she told them that King Arthur made a road in medieval. Medieval Spain than about anything else in the season. I was like, well, the cheating is one thing, but the King Arthur lies. I will not stand by that.

[Ben Mandelker]

The two are guiding God, guiding her straight to hell.

[Ronnie]

Strike to hell. Because those. Those people will go off to a cocktail party, and they will say something like, well, we went to this great castle where the road was built by King Arthur himself.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, no, she told them she was lying, right?

[Ronnie]

She did, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, do you want me to make up facts? So it was, like, a joke that she's, like, walking around making up the facts.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I thought she was telling V. Okay, well, you know, I can't deal with it anymore. I'm revved up, and I want a ranch.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Max threw chicken nuggets in everybody's head.

[Ronnie]

Hold on, let me check in with my imposter syndrome. What you think you're doing? Going on rants about some poor girl because she's to mention King Arthur's name? What's wrong with you? Now, excuse me, I gotta wrap some presents for Amazon because it's Christmas time and it's that time of year for me.

[Ben Mandelker]

But they. Yeah, she's just fucking around. But V actually did study, which we saw her doing earlier in the galley, presumably, so she is giving them real facts. And so at least there's someone there who's making enough. So then we go back to the boat where Max, Nathan and Joe are on the swim platform. And Joe's like, I'm a bit sorry. I mean, she's upset. And Nathan says, bro, stop flirting with Gizzy. It starts. It's causing too much trauma in our department. Now, of course it was fine. When two days before. I wanted to bang her while you did. That was totally fine.

[Ronnie]

But, you know, it was fine actually, because there was no drama that came out of it that affected the department. But this time it is. And joke goes, I'm just being myself. Oh, okay, nevermind then. You're just being you. And God forbid anyone impinges on the sacrosanct quality of your personality in favor of getting the job done. We'll just stop everything. Let's just crash this boat. Because you're being you. And God forbid anyone challenges that. Like, I don't care if you're being you. You're in a job right now. Be the best employee you can be and shut your personality down for a second. And because this isn't a talent show, this is you bringing in lines. And this is if you're. If you're going to inflate a slide, you being you doesn't matter.

[Ben Mandelker]

Inflate.

[Ronnie]

Put your lips on that nozzle and blow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So he's like, but I'm just being myself. It's just playful banter. Look, let me put my teeth together to show you I'm just a kid showing you that he brushed his teeth.

[Ronnie]

And then Max like, no, it's one and a half. Yeah, she's one and a half. I got to be me, Okay? I just can't help but be me. And these one and a half charters, he really. He really has reverse imposter syndrome, and that's a real problem. We need to get Frances McDormand and Sandy into his head because he has got too much confidence about everything that he does.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello there. This is a two part recap. Okay, this is the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.

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