#3160 Below Deck Med S10E16 Part 2: Ba Da Ba Ba Ba - Not Luvin’ It

Summary

Watch What Crappens: Below Deck Med S10E16 Part 2 — “Ba Da Ba Ba Ba - Not Luvin’ It”

Episode #3160 | Released: January 13, 2026 | Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Episode Overview

This raucous episode dives into all the juicy Below Deck Mediterranean S10E16 drama, as Ben and Ronnie dissect failing yacht romances, immature deckhand shenanigans, and — the real cliffhanger — a tragic chicken nugget incident. With their signature snark and Bravo-loving banter, the hosts mock, analyze, and savor every cringe and cackle from the episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Kizzy–Joe–V Love Triangle Drama

• Kizzy and V’s Awkward “Resolution”

  • The guests notice a castle’s architecture, joke about “Spanish glory holes” (01:03), but soon it’s back to the main event: Kizzy and V’s tense bench talk.
  • Kizzy defends herself: "We have flirted since the day he got on board...everyone can see that...he couldn’t have been more clear about the fact that it’s not serious." (01:48, paraphrased)
  • V feels deeply betrayed, implying Joe and Kizzy disregarded her feelings after all the “special” talk and late-night promises Joe made.

• Host Take: Ben and Ronnie break down the logic and hypocrisy of Kizzy’s stance. Ben points out how Kizzy and Joe only act like V is “crazy” out of guilt:

  • "The reason why they’re acting like she’s crazy...is because they have a hard time seeing themselves as the bad people in this situation. But they know they’re the bad people." (04:13)
  • Chris calls Joe “way worse” for selling the “you’re the only one” narrative to V while keeping things ambiguous with Kizzy.

• Aftermath:

  • Kizzy barely apologizes; V concludes it’s someone she can’t be friends with after this.
    • V: "I’ve looked at her Instagram. She hasn’t cried once." (05:17)
  • Asia offers comic relief ("Are we at peace now?"), but the hosts aren’t fooled by Kizzy’s insincere apology.

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2. Deck Crew Drama: Max Endangers Guests

• The Speeding Incident

  • Guests want to go fast on the water toys. Max obliges, despite repeated safety warnings (13:25).
  • Guests go flying, Nathan is “absolutely fuming,” but, predictably, nothing happens:
    • Chris: "Max, after all of that, what he got was an incredibly powerful thank you. So there you go." (15:34)
  • Joe, the alleged “lead deckhand,” handwaves it away, and Sandy seems unconcerned.

• Ben’s Take:

  • “I’m like, okay, you guys are all idiots, all three of you. It’s time for you to go.” (15:13)

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3. The Max & Kathy Pseudo-Romance

• Awkward Advances
  • Max repeatedly insists on having a “talk” about making things official with Kathy, while she is still grieving her stepfather’s death.
  • Ben: "Please, like, not suffocate this girl, like, two days after she found out...her stepfather...died." (20:09)
  • Kathy delays, not ready for it, clearly needing space, but Max doesn't pick up cues.

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4. The Never-Ending Joe-Kizzy PDA & V’s Isolation

• At crew night out, Joe and Kizzy perform their dance, flirt, and discuss sexual innuendo loudly, all in front of V, who is clearly uncomfortable and feels isolated.

  • Ben: “It’s such an amazing...brazen rewriting of the situation. Like, oh, we just tried something. You, like, took selfies with her. You, like, told your mom about her...promised to take her to meet your mom..." (22:03)

• Nathan is V’s only support, offering to change seats; V says, "I just feel like an outcast at this point" (33:58).

• Ronnie: "Everybody's stupid." (32:18)

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5. Chicken Nuggetgate: The McDonald’s Catastrophe

• Crew orders late-night McDonald's. Joe and Nathan, drunk, intercept the delivery, devour most of it, and throw some at Max and Kathy during their serious talk (36:26–38:41).

• Kathy is incandescent:

  • Kathy: “If you waste my nuggets, I’m going to f**ing calm down and rip your head off!”* (38:15)
  • Ben: "Kathy deserves so much better. So much better than...at the very least a chicken nugget of a man." (41:52)

• Max, stymied in his girlfriend proposal by the “nugget crisis,” mopes about trust — missing the point entirely, as Ben and Ronnie note.

  • Chris: "You need to go down there and get those chicken nuggets back...No one wants a man who is going to stand there and let their chicken nuggets be disrespected." (40:44)

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6. Chef Josh’s Plated Redemption

• Josh finally plates his food individually, impressing guests:
  • Guest: “...this is 10 times better [than the two Michelin restaurants we went to this week]...admittedly, it was more just like a vending machine in a Michelin store. We got new tires is what we're saying. But this is better…” (17:52)
  • Tip meeting: $27,000, $2450 per person. Captain Sandy showers Josh with the most mock-serious praise possible (27:12).
    • “You took those round things in the galley, I think they're called plates, and you actually put food on top of them. I haven't seen anybody do that before.” — Chris (27:12)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "It's windier than the empty queue of men Norma would have in her dating lineup."
  – Ben as Captain Sandy, (07:00)
• Kizzy: "It's like we're sharing a bowl of popcorn, and you're mad that I'm eating the popcorn too." (03:12)
• Chris (re: Joe's nonchalant behavior):
  "You're the one who was sobbing in the bathroom. We all watched you.” (22:03)
• Kathy (on the chicken nugget crisis):
  "If you waste my nuggets, I’m going to f**ing calm down and rip your head off!”* (38:15)
• Ben: "Don’t eat other people’s takeout. Their delivery like that is...a crime.” (42:22)
• On Max's failed romantic timing:
  • "You need to go down there and get those chicken nuggets back. You need to throw those guys in the water for fucking with her chicken nuggets.” — Chris (40:44)
• Cliffhanger Highlight:
  • Ben: “I love that this episode ended with a chicken nugget cliffhanger. That’s perfect Bravo TV for me.” (42:22)

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Noteworthy Timestamps

• [01:03] — Guests’ castle joke and transition to love triangle sit-down.
• [05:17] — V’s Instagram clapback & end of “resolution.”
• [13:25] — Max’s reckless speeding incident.
• [17:52] — Chef Josh’s dinner wins guest praise.
• [22:03] — Joe completely rewrites his history with V.
• [38:41] — Chicken Nugget War erupts.
• [41:52] — Final take: Kathy deserves “a chicken nugget of a man.”

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Ben and Ronnie’s tone: Snarky, irreverent, and delighting in people’s self-delusions. They show a little empathy for V and Kathy but mostly revel in Bravo absurdity.
• Main Themes: Hypocrisy, immaturity, female friendships betrayed by dumb men, and the comic tragedy of late-night fast food theft.
• Bravo Life Lessons:
  • Never trust a deckhand who tells two women they’re special.
  • Don’t let men near your chicken nuggets. Ever.

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Listen for Next Time

The episode ends on the “chicken nugget cliffhanger” and teases more Below Deck absurdity (plus Vanderpump and other Bravo faves) in the next Watch What Crappens.

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Transcript

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[Ben]

Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

[Chris]

Yeah. So now we cut back to the guests and they see a big square, like, hole in the castle. And one of them's like, oh, it's a Spanish glory hole. Ooh. So they all start laughing. And now they go to a restaurant and Kizzy and V are like, do you want us to just leave you alone? So you guys. And they're like, yes, please. So they have to sit together. So they just sit on this little bench, like, oh, God. So Kizzy says, so h just said you wanted to chat with me again. Like, yeah, cuz like the whole thing, like, I was missing before. Is it like you guys said, you just had, like, a quick little makeout and it was an accident because you were drunk. But I mean, like, it seems like maybe it was more than that. Like I thought to myself, nah.

[Ben]

And Kiz is like, well, we have flirted since the day he got on board. You know that. And like, you can see that. And like, everyone can see that. Right? And like, he couldn't have been more clear about the fact that it's not serious and that he doesn't want anything after six weeks. Weeks, you know, So I don't understand why you're so upset. And she's like, why I'm so upset? Yeah, because if it's something that never would have happened for you guys, like, she's basically like, why are you acting so crazy? Why did you get your, like, hopes up that this was something more than, like, would happen on this charter season, but, like, disregarding the fact that Joe spent much of her time and our time talking about how special this was and how he doesn't want to have the expiry date anymore on this relationship when the season's over.

[Chris]

Right. And so if he's like, well, I mean, I would think that, like, people who work with me and are supposed to be my friends would have more respect for me. And Kissy kind of gets a roll her eyes face, and she's like, yeah, and I wish that was different, but I guess it's not. And Kissy's just like, yeah.

[Ben]

So, yeah, it's shocking. It's not shocking, but it is shocking. But it's not shocking to me how Kizzy and Joe don't seem to understand why V is, like, upset. And what's funny is that they know why she'd be upset. Because they. Because when she was away, they spent two days stressing and crying. Well, he cried. And they were, like, pacing and nervous.

[Chris]

So if I had to guess, I would say that Kizzy feels that she was flirting with Joe first. And V knew that when she started hooking up with Joe and she. They talked about what a fuck boy he was. Whatever. So. So then when V started hooking up with Joe, Kizzy was just like, okay, well, I guess you're gonna hook up with Joe now. Like, she didn't get mad at her for hooking up with Joe. So I think Kizzy's like, well, I had him first, and you took him from me, and I didn't get mad. And now that you got rid of him and I'm taking him back, why are you mad? Like, he was mine first. And I get why that's stupid logic, but I think that that's how Kizzy's thinking of in her head. I think Joe's way worse because Joe was the one like, oh, but you're the only one for me now. I can't think of anybody else. And this is it. This is it. I'm a different man. You know, Joe did all that stuff, but Kizzy's like, I mean, it's a boy. It's like we're sharing a bowl of popcorn. And you're mad that I'm, like, eating the popcorn too. Like, it's both of our popcorn.

[Ben]

Yeah. I mean, Kizzy, at least is a little bit more honest about her intentions, which I do appreciate, believe it or not. Despite my rant. That was. Had no good foundation because it was based off of a King Arthur situation that I misunderstood. But she is being more honest about it, but Joe is not. And. And the fact that they just. I just think it's the reason why they're acting like she's crazy, obviously, is because they don't want to. They have a hard time seeing themselves as the bad people in this situation. But they know they're the bad people in the situation, which is why they were like, Joe was crying. And that's why Kizzy was feeling regret and remorse when they were not there. But then as soon she gets back, and then they have to actually deal with the consequences. The consequences of their actions. They don't like it. So now they're gonna make it seem like some crazy, rational person for daring to be upset that this entire situation unfolded between her, the guy she was banging, and, like, her friend who she's sort of besties with on the boat.

[Chris]

Yeah. Yeah. So Kissy's like, well, I can't help it. I need to explore what's happening between me and Joe. I'll regret it if I don't. I don't want to have regrets. Oh, you're going to be filled with plenty of regrets.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Chris]

So V's like, I mean, you're never even going to be apologetic. Like, you're not going to feel sorry about it or say anything. Like, I've looked at her Instagram. She hasn't cried once. I mean, this tells me who she is as a person. And, like. Like, for myself, this is someone I would not want to be friends with afterwards, so whatever. And kids, he's like, okay, well, we have a good connection, and it's fair for us to have explored that. Like, I mean, in a shit way, but still. And be like, okay, but at the cost of my feelings. I mean, I guess I disagree, but you did it. She goes, nailed it.

[Ben]

That's right. It wasn't the claim. Damn. So Sandy's on the boat, and the swells are huge, and the guests are wrapping up their meals and everything, and they're coming back to the boat, and Nathan is like, so, Asia, did you have a chat with V earlier? And she's like, well, she said they would. That they had a drunken kiss. And they're like, yeah, that's. And she's like, I know. So Nathan's, like, upset about this. And he's. He's like, I'm gonna call it out if I see it. And she's like, well, I was going to. I was going. Well, I was like, you're going to go. You're going to get spoken to. And I was like, just be nice.

[Chris]

He's like, I can't stand for it. I will not stand for this. So Aisha's like, oh, Nathan's growing up is just really beautiful to watch. And he's like, how the fuck have I become the mature, responsible one out of this group. I don't. I don't know that anybody would accuse you of that.

[Ben]

Yeah, I'm like, I've seen your social media. I'm not sure I would say you're the mature, responsible adult of this group right now. But that's okay. So now they go. They go pick up Kizzy and V, and they. Captain Sandy is like, whoa, it's really windy out there. God, it's. It's windier than the empty queue of men that Norma would have in her dating lineup. You see what I was trying to go for with that one?

[Chris]

It's windier than the back. Enormous pants after a block of cheese. Not much windy. That was better.

[Ben]

That was a good one. Very windy.

[Chris]

So now the tender goes to pick up the guests. Kizzy's like, come save me from this awfulness. So Joe brings him back, and of course, he and Kizzy are flirting. And V is just like, jesus Christ. These people, really. They are just shameless. Shameless. So now they all get back, and Josh is complimenting his fish, as one does. And now it's water toy time. And so Asia and Kizzy see each other. Oh, this is where it is. So Kizzy's like, we had our chat. She goes, are we at peace now? She goes, oh, yeah, no, no, we're at peace. But also, I'm young and single. I mean, what am I meant to do? And she goes, not be a little bitch.

[Ben]

I'm not being a little bitch.

[Chris]

But you were a little bitch.

[Ben]

You were. You were changed. I've changed. No, I don't. Thank you. Ch. I apologize.

[Chris]

Well, that's good.

[Ben]

Well done.

[Chris]

Well done.

[Ben]

Thank you, mother. Thank you.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Ben]

I apologized and I meant it. No, you didn't mean it, but that's okay, darling.

[Chris]

And then it cuts to Asia and the confessional just rolling her eyes. She's like, really?

[Ben]

Really? So then Josh is like, can I squeeze in your. Can I just get by here for a second? And then Kiz is like, you're the only one I haven't ticked off. Josh. Funny, because he's. He's hot. He's hot on Watch what Happens Live. And so then Josh, then. Then she's like, jokes, you know? Remember we did. She said something about, like, she basically talking about their flirtations, like. Like, you're the only one who hasn't gotten mad at me. And he's like, well, I play hard to get. Which is funny for poor Josh. The easiest to get.

[Chris]

You're hard to get any. Yeah. So then now we go to Nathan FaceTiming Gayle. So I have to say, with everything going on on these shows, the Nathan crying to Gayle part is the worst. So you know how I always complain on here when friends get married and they're like, if you don't behave, you are not coming to my wedding? It becomes a year of them holding their wedding over everybody's head, like, oh, really? Well, someone's not coming to my wedding party. And now Nathan is kind of doing that. But it's his sister's wedding. It's like, oh, I've got something really important to run by you. Maybe I could come to Ireland and come to my sister's wedding.

[Ben]

This was.

[Chris]

Wow, what a fucking offer.

[Ben]

The offer is supposed to be that you come back on the boat and fire Max, not that you take your. Your take Gail to your sister's wedding. And how awkward. Gosh, I don't know.

[Chris]

Also the offer of, like, you're in. You're in this relationship with somebody where you never see each other and then you ghost her because you're never in the same place. And so your solution is for her to come to you again.

[Ben]

Exactly. And so she's like, your sister's waiting. And he's like, yeah. Are you sure you want me there? Why, Gail? The question should not be, are you sure you want me there? She says that almost as if, like, she's some taboo Scarlet letter. I was like, no. She'd be like, are you sure you won't ghost me between now and then? That should be the question.

[Chris]

Well, I think she's saying, like, are you sure I'm important enough to come to this extremely important event? And he's like, you've won. You've won the golden ticket. And she's like, let me think about this. So he says that after the season, me and Gayle went to Ireland, and Gayle met my family and they think the world of her. And now that my sister's getting married after the season, I just hope she might come with me. Jesus Christ, I've got no idea. Oh, but I've just done something huge. I've invited somebody on a date that I don't have to pay for.

[Ben]

The producer's like, wow, you're really nervous right now. He's like, what do you mean? Like, you're picking at tape from the floor. He's like, oh, God, what have I done to myself? I'm picking up the tape. Oh, man, this is crazy. You know, tape, it's so addictive to pick up. And they're like so. Yeah. So Gail, huh? I miss her. I love Gayle.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

So then V sees this and she's like, oh, my God, that was, like, so cute. Like, you, like, smile when she talks. That's like, so cute. And it's like, I'll fuck off. So now three of the guests are on a tube and they tip over. And so then Anisha goes to see Josh in the galley and talks about dinner, and he's like, well, it's plated. We're doing onion lattes with lobster lattes. I mean, ladies, after that is lattes.

[Ben]

How delicious.

[Chris]

You never know. It's chefery. After that, it's a red snapper dish. It's going to be a Benga, a real Benga. And she's like, oh.

[Ben]

Someone bit up against it, as always. Okay, bye. You got your five minutes of camera time for the episode. Now, moving on. So, Max, some of the guests are on this, like, tube thing that is tied to Max's jet ski. And he's gonna basically go tow them around at a high speed. Yeah. And. Or the tender. And he. They're like, go, go fast. Go super fast, Max. So he starts going really fast, and they're, like, zipping around and bouncing. And. And everyone's watching, and Sandy's like, okay, Nathan, Nathan, tell Max to slow it down. Okay? Tell Max to treat that tender like Norma's dating cue. Slow. Okay, slow down. Slow.

[Chris]

But she's smiling. She's like, that wacky kid out there. What's going on? And Nathan's like, v, tell Nathan to slow. Tell Max to slow down. She's like, okay, slow down. And he's like, oh, no speed. Now I've got no speed. There's barely any speed going on here. I don't know what anybody else back on me. And Nathan's like, no, you're going way too fast. I don't know how many times I have to say it, but slow down. Just don't let them bounce. Wherever they get whiplash, they'll get whiplash. And you see that? He really is, like, swinging. Swinging them everywhere.

[Ben]

They are like they are bouncing all over the place. And Then, of course, eventually someone goes flying off, you know, and Max.

[Chris]

Yeah, two of them go flying off.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Still, Max is fine. It's like, wow. Max is sincere. In trouble. Just put the guest in danger for the second time this episode. Oh, okay. God, Max is so funny, isn't he?

[Ben]

And. And they're like, wow, when we hit the water, that really hurt. That's so fun. He's like, oh, yeah. So Nathan is, like, furious. And then, you know, Nathan's, you know, he's like. He's mad at Max, and Max is like, oh, he really think I'm a baby. It's like, you are a baby. You are a baby with a mustache. Get back to the boat.

[Chris]

Well, if you guess, ask you to go fast, you don't say no. The guests don't know the difference between going fast and slow on a inner tube on back of a tender. Okay? They don't do that every day. So Nathan's like, well, it's not safe. And he's not listening. I'm absolutely fuming with him. So then Captain Sandy makes Max go and rescue the people that he is slipped off of the tube, but they're complaining that it hurts, and so he's in trouble. So let's see what happens. Nothing. Spoiler alert. Nothing. So now Nathan goes and tells Joe. He's like, oh, you're the lead deckhand, so you've got to take control of this. He's out of control. And so what do you think Joe's gonna do? He's gonna be like.

[Ben]

It's like, let's calm down. Do me one massive favor. I know you don't do it, but don't go too fast. Just calm down a little bit. Come say, yeah, but I think a little bit waves. I wasn't going faster. Just the waves make it look like it's going fast. It's like, no, I know what you mean. Thanks for understanding. I'm like, okay, you guys are all idiots, all three of you. It's time for you to go.

[Chris]

So Max, after all of that, what he got was an incredibly powerful. Thank you. So there you go.

[Ben]

There you go, guys.

[Chris]

So now everyone's getting ready for the night. It's a mannequin thing. It's like another decoration of putting mannequins everywhere tonight.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Jewels on their face and stuff like that. And so Captain checks in with Josh. She's like, hey, Josh, listen, I just want you to know I saw a little cartoon skinny person with really good hair. Can we hire that guy?

[Ben]

What's his name. And so Josh is like. He's like, my mind, my natural state is always questioning myself. And, you know, Josh, you ain't gonna be able to manage all that. You ain't gonna be able to put red snapper on a plate. Josh, you're not gonna be able to do too much. But, Dominic, go fuck yourself. I'm doing a full plated meal tonight, and I ain't gonna fucking fail. You watch. It's like, oh, okay. You sure told that animated character. What's up? When you put the fish on the plates and survive the odds of being able to do such things. Yeah.

[Chris]

So then Kizzy and Kathy are in a cabin cleaning, and Kizzy picks up something that looks like a bot. Looks like a scrubber. Like a toilet scrubber. And she's like, is this a vibrator?

[Ben]

Is it?

[Chris]

No, I don't. I don't. I don't know of any, like, toilet, scrubber, brush, vibrators that would be.

[Ben]

But why would you carry around Pleasant.

[Chris]

But why would you carry around a toilet brush as a guest?

[Ben]

You know, people have different needs and different kinks. And some people are like, can't wait to get on that yacht and clean some toilets. I love some yachty cosplay, maybe.

[Chris]

Okay, so first chorus comes out, and it's a bisque and an Ana Ludi pasta with the butternut puree. And the guests are like, we are Balone. This is Amaz. And Joe checks in with Nathan, and Nathan's still fuming about Max. And Joe goes, well, I can see both sides. And he goes, how can you see a side? He's like, well, I can understand when you're in the water, it's, you know, that's a lot. There's waves, there's water, there's fish in there. You know, we don't see him that often, but it doesn't mean they're not there. Have you ever thought about that?

[Ben]

This is a bullshit response. You can see both sides. No, if. What's the other side of your boss saying, slow down the boat, and you don't slow down the boat. What is the other side of that? Because I don't really understand that. So Nathan does not like this. He's like, what the fuck is that? And then there's more food coming out as a snapper and a sauce with white wine and tomatoes and some peppers, and everyone really likes it. And this one guy is like. So we went to two other Michelin restaurants this week before we came here, and literally, this is 10 times better I mean, admittedly, it was more just like a vending machine in a Michelin store. We got new tires is what we're saying. But this is better than the vending machine. So kudos to the chef, really.

[Chris]

Wow. Wow. Plated meals at dinner just elevates everything. And so she tells Josh, Nice. And I waited 2. Michelin restaurant. Could you just speed it up? I'm trying to cook here.

[Ben]

They loved your food.

[Chris]

They loved it. He's like, love that. He's like, did you hear that, Dominic? Did you hear those comments?

[Ben]

And he goes, I might, because, yeah, exactly, shut your traps. Like, oh, for sex sake. So then everyone's wrapping up their stuff for the day and cabins are done. Everything. And Kathy is happy that she didn't cry today. She's like, I got my British back. I didn't cry. Even though it's two days after a severe trauma. So trly do back to my room. And Max is like, I want to cuddle with you before bed. And she's like, okay, cool. So he's like, mad museum. So we need to chat. She's like, oh, God, what do you want to chat about? He's like, well, what are we. What? What are we. Are you saying what are. Yes. No, that was all. That was English we, not French. We keep up, like.

[Chris]

So you're singing it now, are you? He's like, well, it is easier to sing about something than to speak about something. And she goes, well, serious. When you make it less serious, is that what you're saying is like, oh, you're missing the point. She goes, please, please don't ask me to be your girlfriend. He's like, oh, just. I would just love to really not rush things completely, you know, if you want to have a conversation about it not just being a season thing. I mean, maybe some other night, you know, maybe tomorrow night after dinner. I don't know. Just not now.

[Ben]

Please, like, not suffocate this girl, like, two days after she found out that her stepfather, who she loved, died. Could you just, like, give her some space?

[Chris]

Give her a minute, bro.

[Ben]

Yes. Have some time. Okay.

[Chris]

Yeah. So she's like, well, I mean, I do like him, but I'm not ready to have this conversation, you know? I mean, do we have to rush things? I mean, you're not on a speedboat. Get it?

[Ben]

Kathy Byrne.

[Chris]

I'm here. I'm learning, I'm learning.

[Ben]

So Joe is. He's like. He's in a DJ costume. He's like in his abiza DJ costume, which is like Shiny and showing off his arms and stuff. And he comes through the crew mess, and V just sees him and is like. And he's like. He's like, oh, why don't you come watch me do my DJ set? And she's like, no, just enjoy the attention. Which was beautifully barbed.

[Chris]

He's like, I do it for the tip, darling. So. Because he's like, what are you doing DJing? And he goes, yeah, I'm pretending to be DJing. And she goes, oh, God, I've never been so attracted to you in my life.

[Ben]

He's like, I know this. So I know seeing this, right? Look at this. And Nathan's like, mental. It's mental. So Kathy and Max say good night, and Joe's DJing, and V is watching. She's just totally disgusted. And Kizzy, of course, comes right up behind Joe, and it's like, you know, she's like, on him in the DJ booth, and he's on her. Envy is just like, I hate these people. Yeah.

[Chris]

So Nathan checks on V, and he's like, I'm here if you need me. And then it's time for everyone to go to bed. And Kizzy is talking to Joe, and she's like, oh, my God, did you have today's chat? And he goes, no, it's just like, victoria, give me a break, man. I mean, we tried something. It didn't work out.

[Ben]

Cool.

[Chris]

We've got. We can have a laugh and make a joke and a story. Are you good? And Nathan can hear this.

[Ben]

It's such a. It's such an amazing, like, a brazen rewriting of the situation. Like, oh, we just tried something. You, like, took selfies with her. You, like, told your mom about her. You know, you promised to take her back to meet your mom. Like, you sold her the whole story, and now it's like, oh, it's just. We tried something fun and it didn't work out. Let's laugh about it. I'm like, laugh about it? You're the one who was sobbing in the bathroom. We all watched you. So Nathan is like, you know what? It's probably be best if you're just be mindful on the night out. Be mindful with her. You know? And he's like, but we're not together. Obviously she wants something more. I mean, she's crazy cuckoo lady. Strings attached, needy, clingy, stage five clinger. You know what I'm saying? And if it affects you so much, then, like, then it's wrong. So it really was never good in the first place because she was way too invested. Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Yeah.

[Chris]

He's like, so you're looking for something serious, you know? And he goes, just stop. Wouldn't do that to one of my friends. And then fucking saying, oh, just get over it. It's not that fucking intense. I mean, but it might be to her. And he's like, well, I just want to have fun, and goes, just keep it in your fucking trousers. That's the last that I'll be getting involved.

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[Ben]

So Nathan's like, I know Joe doesn't want to hear what I'm telling him about V, but I have to make him aware because that's what a true friendship is. I'm like, also, you're his boss, and this whole thing is messing up the. The. Your department. She said, but sometimes you have to tell each other. You don't want to hear.

[Chris]

So Joe's like, I mean, me, if I shocked Kitty and, like, and done it in her face. All right, but anyway, I mean, we're not even together. I mean, anyway, whatever. We're not together. We're not together.

[Ben]

Yeah. So now it's the final day of the charter. They're hauling in the anchor to go back to the port and everything, and V is feeling a little bit better, and she. She. She's being a little bit more cordial with Joe. She gets something from Joe. And so Joe goes up to her, and they're at their anchoring positions, and Joe's like, victoria, I'm back here with you today. And, like, you know, and then I'll run off. Okay? So I just want to say, hey, the time that we had, no one's gonna take that away from me anyway. Like, I learned a lot from you as well. Hey, there's just. I want in the future. What you want in the future or what we want are very different things. And like, you said you wanted no strings attached, but obviously there were strings attached.

[Chris]

Oh, wow. Okay, so now you're trying to break up with her. You were broke. You were she broke up with you already? She dumped you last week. So why are you acting like you're breaking up with her, you fucking weirdo?

[Ben]

Yeah, she's.

[Chris]

She's like, yeah, but, like, what you and Kizzy did to me, I don't think that, like, friends would do that to each other. And he's like, a drunken kiss, I can't even remember. I mean, come on. And she just, like, gives him a look, and he's like, I care for your well being on this boat more than anything. Which is why I couldn't even remember your birthday when you said, I'm leaving the boat because the birthday. My birthday is the day that my boyfriend died. But I didn't remember. This guy's like, I'm just so sensitive. But I promise, you know, nothing. And nothing's going to happen on this boat with Kizzy. I promise you, I'm not going to hold. I'm going to hold my word to it. I'm going to hold. I'm going to hold me word.

[Ben]

He's just mad that she's mad at him. He doesn't. He's uncomfortable with people being mad at him. And he. And he either has to find resolution and he was not able to find resolutions, or he has to villainize her. So that's what he's doing. He's making her seem like the crazy person. And she's like, v tells us this is crazy because, like, quote, unquote, I'm such a good person, I'm going to promise not to hurt you again.

[Chris]

And it's true.

[Ben]

It is such a manipulation by Joe.

[Chris]

But I'm such a respectful man. I'm very conscious of people's feelings. She's like, wow, what joker? Yeah. So now it's time to dock. And Joe's like, it wasn't my intention to hurt you, honestly. She goes, okay, well, I don't know what you want me to say. So they're tying up the lines and throwing the lines to the dock and all that good stuff. And Kizzy scares Aisha. And now the guests are, you know, talking about how much fun this was and how they used to always have fun before fucking kids. And now it's time to go.

[Ben]

Yeah. So the guests leave. They give them tips and everything. And now it's time for the tip meeting. All right, everyone. Charter eight, right? Charter. Ate. Well, more like it with that plate of food. Good job, Josh. I'm just so proud of you all. Well done on the themes. Okay? Great work. And. And the chef, Josh, you really you really did a great job. Thank you for not wearing the clown makeup when you served the guests. That was really appreciated by everyone on board.

[Chris]

Just the way that you took those round things in the galley, I think they're called plates. And you actually put food on top of them. I haven't seen anybody do that before. You really went above and beyond today. Wow.

[Ben]

I know. It was hard to put eight pieces of fish on their own little plates instead of eight pieces of fish on one big platter, but you did it. You overcame.

[Chris]

Yeah, you sure did. He's like, I was, I was very proud of the food that I served this charter and they really appreciated it. So flick my hair a little bit. There you go. Okay. Just tell your hot friend he's got a job whenever he wants it. I love cartoons.

[Ben]

So they get a $27,000 tip, which is basically 20, 24, 50 per person. And now they're cleaning up the boat to go out and everything. And Kizzy is really excited, you know, And Kathy's telling Kizzy, like, I think that Max wants to have a chat with me tonight. She's like, oh, is he going to say you, you'd be my girlfriend? She's like, it's a bit quick, isn't it? I mean, it's disgusting. It's almost like he's American. Ugh, get him out of my face.

[Chris]

It's like, well, how do you feel about that? Because I don't want to answer. I just. In the moment. We'll see how I feel, I guess. So Max is like, oh, boy, I'm going to make excuse exclusive. He's like, oh, wow. So they fist bump and stuff to beyond an infinity Buzzard Lightyear.

[Ben]

I was at first like laughing at his broken English, but then I realized they're probably not allowed to say the true phrase without Disney suing them. So like, okay, reverse it, Max. Reverse it. Then say it on camera.

[Chris]

So everybody gets ready to go on and Asia is telling Kissy she looks great because Kissy's like, oh my God, do I look good? I don't even know if I look good. You look like Jenny from the blog.

[Ben]

She's like, who's that? I was. I was hanging out with a 33 year old and Whitney Houston was playing and we're like, do you know this song? And he's like, yeah. Like, do you know who sings it? He's like, I'm blanking on her name. I'm like, you're blanking on her name? And he's like, yeah, I Don't really remember it. He's like, well, I don't really listen to this older music unless I'm hanging out with you guys. And I was like, this friendship is over.

[Chris]

Well, you just brought up Whitney Houston in a Jennifer Lopez conversation, so I think this friendship might be over. A lot of friendships ending over this today. How dare you?

[Ben]

I just am laughing at the idea that Kizzy would even know who Jenny from the block is. So they are all out and they're partying. They're having fun, and they. They all are going to the restaurant and everything. And Joe is. Joe's talking about the dancing with Kizzy. He's like, kizzy taught me quite an easy dance. It took me two hours to rehearse. And she's like, yeah, you did a really great job. And if I normally dance with a guy that hasn't danced, I wouldn't even be able to do that in one, two, three, or four hours. And that's what's so confusing. So you could been like, you've got the right brain for it, Joe. And they just keep on, like, complimenting each other on the great dancing that they did. And they're being, like, very touchy and laughy and flirty and, like, right in.

[Chris]

Front of V. Yeah, she just rolls her eyes. And Asia's watching this, like, what the hell? And Max is. Now Max is like, mother move. I want to drink with you, Cassie. And she's like, okay, just not now. And he's. But I want to Wait. What? She's like, just. Just not whilst we're here. Please chat later. Okay. Yeah, I would love to have this chat, you know, preferably over FaceTime while we're in different countries. So it would be easier for me to just kind of hang up, you.

[Ben]

Know, preferably in a place where I have no reception. That'll be great, because every time he says mademoiselle, it's like, okay. That means he's gearing up to ask you to be his girlfriend. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't speak. Don't speak. So everyone's talking, and Kizzy's like, first Kizzy licks her spoon in a suggestive way, and then she's like, by the way, guys, what's all the different ways? What are some different ways to say blowjob?

[Chris]

There's just kind of a pause like.

[Ben]

Oh, God, you know?

[Chris]

Cuz of course, like, Kizzy, of course. And Joe answers. So he's like, sucky, sucky 4000. I never heard of that.

[Ben]

And Joe's like, jolie, Raja. And the two of them are cracking each other up, and everyone's just grossed out by them. So V goes to have a cigarette break. She's like, I just don't need any of this. And she's feeling like, you got Kathy and Max over here having a moment. You've got Joe and Kizzy. Josh. She's like, I mean, I wish there was just a chef for me even to talk to just about food, but we don't even have one of those.

[Chris]

I mean, anything. Anything. If there was anyone else with a penis around here.

[Ben]

So.

[Chris]

So of course Kizzy sees Kizzy, and Joe sees that she got up and was obviously annoyed. So what do they do? They're gonna go dance for her right in front of her, where she went to get away from them because they're that fucking needy of attention. Like, even the bad kind of like, what?

[Ben]

They redo their dance.

[Chris]

Everyone's stupid. Yeah. They're just so stupid. So they do that. And she's like. It's like, whatever.

[Ben]

What do you even say to this?

[Chris]

You know?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And Asia's like, this is just a very thinly veiled excuse to touch each other and sneak around back on the boat, like, decent.

[Ben]

Okay, you don't have to do it this way.

[Chris]

Just sneak around. What happened to that?

[Ben]

And then Kizzy's like, oh, my God, my boob came out. My boob came out. Everyone, look. Don't look. But look. She's like. And then she tells us this. It makes me really happy to see how happy it makes Joe when he gets to dance. I feel like there's anyone on this boat that I could actually pursue something with. It would be Joe. But now I think maybe we'll just get married in 20 years. This makes me happy. When I see him get to. It's like, no, it doesn't. Like, whatever. She's trying. She's trying to actually elevate this, that it's not just about hooking up. So, like, this is actually about something deeper and more emotional. So if V gets upset, like, V is the crazy person. Because V is getting upset at genuine human connection right now. That's basically what she's trying to say. And there's no.

[Chris]

I've helped a man, a man who struggled with a. With a loaf of bread and a real estate. Bad real estate transaction. And I brought him to art, which has left him able to walk again.

[Ben]

Well, she's elevating herself in this scenario quite a bit. And it's like, no, he just wants to bang you.

[Chris]

Yeah. So Nathan is like, you know, if you want to sit on a different side, I can change seats with you. And she's like, no, it's okay. And he's like, I don't understand how the man's brain works. Sakes, Joel. You need to think about what you're doing.

[Ben]

So. And Kizzy's just like, well, I don't give a. So now we go via Nathan and these. Like, she just feels like an outcast at this point. And Nathan's like, you're far from it. So now they are gonna start heading. They go back. They're gonna start heading back to the boat and everything. Well, actually, first, they're still. They're eating. They're at the restaurant. They're just doing stuff there. But they eventually start heading back to the boat. And Asia is order. Putting an order in for McDonald's to be delivered to the boat. And Asia orders a lot of Chicken McNuggets, which Kathy, we find out later, really, really wants.

[Chris]

So Joe, on the way back to the boat, like, jumps on a signpost and starts, like, pole dancing. I love that. We see the security people, like, yeah, get the off of that.

[Ben]

They were like, idiot, are you doing. Get off of our sign.

[Chris]

So the hot tub's empty. Everybody's mad, and Kizzy is saying, like, I've never been so in love with you to Joe. And Max is now determined to have this talk, right? So Kizzy pops her head into Joe's cabin, and he's like, do you want to come in? And she's like, I shouldn't. And he goes, God, this is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. She's like, we're not even doing anything. And he goes, because we can't. We can't do anything. Good night, me lady. And he closes the door. They're like, really brave guys that they didn't do that, because that would have been really bad to be.

[Ben]

He is painting himself as if he's in some epic romance where they're being kept apart by their stations in life. Okay, this is not remains of the day. You guys are just like. They're told it was, like, lovely time.

[Chris]

Of cholera, and I hope you both get it.

[Ben]

I know. Just means keep it together for 48 more hours, and you guys can do whatever you want, but, like, for right now, don't do it. So now Max is like, it is time. Time for the talk. And she's like, oh, God. So she's. He's like they. They wind up like snuggled under a blanket on the deck. And he's like, well, I thought. I always thought love was a fucking trap. And then I met you, and you made me believe that it is possible again. And that is why I want to propose something to you. And she's like, oh, God, great. Sounds wonderful. So while they're having this conversation out on the dock, Joe and Nathan are on the dock and they're just being silly and drunk and a delivery person shows up with all the McDonald's that was ordered and they just tear into this bag of everyone else's food and just start eating it. Whatever's. Whatever they see, they just start to eat it.

[Chris]

No disgusting behavior. And I would just like to point out that this is Joe and Nathan and not Nathan and Max, as Ben had previously reported at the start of this recap.

[Ben]

So, yeah, actually, when you were saying it, I thought you were saying it was all three of them, to be honest.

[Chris]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know. So they start eating the food, which is gross. And then Joe and Nathan are eating nuggets and burgers and Max and Kathy are upstairs talking. So Max is like, oh, I'm just going to focus on my career, my career of tipping people over on water toy. But out of nowhere, a little angel came from this guy and her name, Kathy Skinner. Kathy Skinner.

[Ben]

Very biblical Kathy Skinner, the archangel. And he said, I just want to know what is happening after all the season. And then Joe and Nathan, they're just drunk, they drop a nugget on the ground. And then Max is like, I have this question inside of myself and I just want to talk to you because I want to start something. She's like, I wish. Dear God, I don't often, I'm not a very religious person, but if you could send some sort of miracle thing to let me get out of this conversation. Anything, something. Make something fall from the sky. And then plink.

[Chris]

Dear God. Dear God, Kathy Skinner, please give me some sign whether or not this relationship will work. Oh, my God, it's a half eaten chicken nugget.

[Ben]

So it goes. They're like, what is happening? And she's like, he's like, I think I want to make you my girlfriend. And she's like. She's like, are they. Excuse me. Put that on pause for one moment for the rest of your life. Are they chucking chips at us? Is it chips? Are they actually throwing chips? He threw a chip at us. And then she's meaning, of course, French fries. For all of us Americans. And then all of a sudden, she starts realizing it's like, chicken nuggets. And she was like, wait a second. If you waste my nuggets, I'm going to fucking calm down and rip your head off. Thank you so much for giving me an excuse to get out of this conversation. I'm coming down right now. So she gets out of this moment, like, Max has literally just said, I want you to be my girlfriend. And now she has gotten up to chase after her nuggets, and they've eaten.

[Chris]

All the nuggets or thrown them all, and there's only a Big Mac left. And she's like, no, there's no. I don't want a fucking Big Mac.

[Ben]

Come on.

[Chris]

I'm so annoyed by this. Chucking chicken nuggets at me. I'm so pissed off. So she goes in all upset. And then we cut to Max. He's like, oh, I'm so sad. And then we cut to a nugget on the ground with a bite taken out of it.

[Ben]

And he's upset because he'd been trying to have this conversation for two days straight to make her his girlfriend. And, like, just when he felt like he was finally having the conversation, she gets distracted away by this scenario. And I'm like, this again. Like, I. I don't mean to play the grief card for her. It sounds like she doesn't want to play the grief card. She just wants to sort of just like, move on. But I'm gonna play it for her, which is that this girl's dad, stepfather just died, and they're eating her takeout and throwing it at her. I'm just like, you both. Like, I can't stand them.

[Chris]

And also, Max is just not the time. Like, she's got. She's got stuff on her mind, and she's clearly given you messages that she doesn't want to have this conversation over and over and over again.

[Ben]

Okay?

[Chris]

So he's like, what? Where are you going? She's like, I'm actually fuming. Did you not see what happened with the chicken nuggets? He's like, you can't have this conversation. But I'm fuming. So she storms off. And he's like, I'm pulling my heart out with you and all you care about this chicken nugget. Come on, Cassie. I'll. Still not listening those. No, no, no. Does not feel good. Yeah, I was digging. Yeah, I don't want to speak about this, but really, I lost. I lost a bit of trust in the woman I lost trust. Well, maybe she would have more trust in you if you went down there and fought for some chicken nuggets. You're only worried about yourself. What is going to stand up for the pride of your woman. You need to go down there and get those chicken nuggets back. You need to go to McDonald's and get her some chicken nuggets. You need to throw those guys in the water for fucking with her. Chicken. Chicken nuggets. No one wants a man who is going to stand there and let their chicken nuggets be disrespected. You might as well have thrown your wife and child under a bus or a moving bus because, what, no one was going to marry you after watching this show. You're sitting there crying about yourself. Where are your tears for those chicken nuggets? You don't care about me. You don't care.

[Ben]

Address her needs. This. You're seeing this as an impediment, but actually it's creating an amazing opportunity for you, which is to order chicken nuggets for Kathy and a bigger and better order than what she had previously ordered. The most chicken nuggets she's ever seen. And then she would see you as a boyfriend type, but instead you're failing the challenge because you're seeing it all about you. And so she is furious and she's like, I feel like raccoon Kathy right now. I'm going to crawl somebody's eyes out. Never get between a raccoon and it's nuggets. And this is the second time the season that she's referred to herself as a raccoon. And I'm like really excited for like rabid raccoon Kathy to come out because I could see her being a terror.

[Chris]

Ah, bro, Josh, bro. I'm speaking like a long term motivation, blah, blah, blah. And she's distracted by dead chicken nugget. Huh? Oh, the end. These. These. Well, she just saw how you're going to stand up for her in the future, which anytime you guys have any kind of trouble that comes into your life, you're going to cry and make yourself a victim instead of doing anything about it. So I have not ever believed in this relationship. And I hope that Kathy can now have. See, this is not the man for her.

[Ben]

Kathy deserves so much better. So much better than she deserves like just a hot, awesome guy and not Max. She deserves at the very least a chicken nugget of a man. And she's not getting it. So it's not fair.

[Chris]

It's not fair. Agreed. And that brings us to the end of you guys. Go out there. Don't. Don't ruin each other's chicken nuggets. You know, it's a rough time in the world. Let's be kind to each other, okay?

[Ben]

Don't eat other people's takeout. Like, don't. Their delivery like that is. That is a. That is a crime. But I love that this episode ended with a chicken nugget cliffhanger. That's. That. That's perfect Bravo TV for me. We'll have to see what happens next week, but until then, you know, we'll be here recapping all sorts of fun stuff like Vanderpump Rules and Salt Lake City and things like that. Vanderpump Rules is a pretty funny one this week if you ask me. I'm excited for that. So we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye.

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Bye.

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