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Andy Cohen
Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?
Ronnie
Well, hello and welcome to watch what Crappens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on yo bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over. Hello, Benoon.
Heather
Hi.
Andy Cohen
How are you? How are you? How are you?
Ronnie
Welcome to the show. Jinx.
Mary
Ben Manoon.
Ronnie
Ben Jinx. Ben Manoon. Yeah, I think that makes sense. So. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Today we're in fall colors. I'm an oatmeal Benson. Oatmeal. Guys.
Andy Cohen
We do not plan our outfits, but we met. This is the third day in a row that we've matched very well.
Ronnie
I know. Yeah. Coming on the way. We're coming into work on the same wavelength, people. And we are here. We are here for you and for us. I mean, what else would we be doing with our lives? So, everybody, thanks so much for being here. It's a Salt Lake City reunion festival. But before we get to that, the Crappy awards, The Golden Crappies 2026, they're coming up. And guess what? It's like year 14, which is incredible.
Andy Cohen
Prison.
Ronnie
We turn 14 next week. We're very excited and the Crappies are coming up very huge for us. They're going to be in Los Angeles on February 27, so make a weekend of it. Come with your friends. It's already half sold out, so. Or half sold, I guess I should say. So get your tickets. That's going to be so much fun. Also, go to Patreon for all your bonus episode content and videos, which we do every day. And now, new to Patreon for all levels. Ad free. Ad free episodes are now available on Patreon. You can get those episodes once you sign up into whatever episode thing you like to whatever podcast episode thing you like to listen to. It'll transfer in there, so do that. I cannot speak today. It's going to be a problem. The entire Day.
Whitney
Okay.
Andy Cohen
Whether you have a Zune or an Apple Newton, you can find our podcast.
Ronnie
You'll find it. I believe in you guys. Um, and I think that that's all we have to do. Oh, we're going to the food festival in South Beach. South Beach Food Festival. Food and wine festival. Uh, we're gonna be doing something called Chew on this, which is a podcast thing over there. And that's gonna be also in February, the week before the crappies. So that's gonna be super fun. And what's. What. What are you saying? What?
Andy Cohen
Well, because we have very exciting news that just broke about 20 minutes ago in the world of watcher Crappens. Ronnie, will you do the honors of telling everyone what just happened?
Ronnie
We just got nominated for an iHeart podcast award party. Yes. So thank you. I heart. That's so exciting.
Mary
God, give it to me.
Whitney
Give it to me right now. Give me that.
Andy Cohen
We got a taste for it. We got a taste for it.
Heather
We need it more.
Andy Cohen
We need it again.
Whitney
Please feed it to me. Feed it to me right now.
Ronnie
Thank you. That's so, so, so exciting and so cool. So thank you so much to them.
Andy Cohen
Yeah.
Ronnie
Give it to us or suffer.
Mary
Or you will suffer.
Andy Cohen
Well, you know what? I Actually, right before this, I went and visited our friends Danny and Evan at Page Six. I did their virtual reality show and. Which was so fun. Go check that out on Page Six. And then afterwards, Evan was like, what's your. What's your sign? I was like, sagittarius. And they were both like, oh, yeah, this is a good year for Sagittariuses. It'll be a good 20, 26. And then literally walked out that door and found out we were nominated for an I Heart. So at the very least, the. The horoscope is working for us so far.
Ronnie
Knock on. Take it. Listen, I'll be on the coattails of your vegetarian ass for as long as I can. I will road. I will ride the. I will rode the coattails. I will ride the coattails. You guys, I'm not stoned.
Andy Cohen
By the way, that elevator. Is that elevator going? The Page Six situation is hilarious. First of all, shout out to Miranda at the Wall Street Journal, who's a Krappens fan who encountered me in the elevator. Apparently, they're in the same building, but also, Page Six is New York Post, and so it's all in the same building as Fox News. And it just was so funny because I got in the elevator and there was some people there from Fox News who were like, Talking. And they're like, well, we got to get Peter into Iran. Are we gonna get Peter into Iran? I think we're gonna get him into Iran. And I just thought it was so funny that I was like, I was just talking about Francois Arnaud at the Spotify party upstairs, which is like, I just love how, like, just living in such different worlds, having different spaces in the same elevator.
Ronnie
But can we get Scott Hunter into Iran?
Lisa Barlow
That's the question. That is the question.
Andy Cohen
I'll tell you what would solve anything. Any GE geopolitical crisis would be getting the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City in there, because they could. They'll just.
Heather
People.
Andy Cohen
They. You just get all six or seven of them in there, wherever the trouble is. And I think then the leaders of whatever country will say, you know what?
Heather
I think?
Andy Cohen
I think we could settle down. We could settle down. There's too much happening in this world. It's. This is so chaotic. We need to have less chaos in our country right now. I think that maybe it could solve issues a little bit.
Ronnie
Give them whatever they want that all they're asking for is a unicorn that tells them to go have a good sleep.
Mary
Tells it that they love them. Give it to them.
Whitney
Give it to them.
Andy Cohen
Well, that's what these. That's what the leaders of all these countries need. Because, honestly, any leader that's marching their country into a war or any leader who is, like, oppressing their own people, it all comes from just massive insecurity and not being loved as a child. And they just need a unicorn that you press its paw, its hoof, and it'll go, you are loved. Like, maybe that's what some of these leaders need, and maybe we could have world peace. You were loved, baby.
Ronnie
All right, well, here we are. We're not solving any world issues today. Today we're just talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. But who has it better, us or Putin? I think us.
Whitney
I think we win.
Ronnie
Let's get into it. Speaking of international disasters, what is Heather wearing? Why is she dressed like a couch on the Lawrence Welk Show? What is she doing?
Andy Cohen
Why, I wonder, is this, like a look now? Because I feel like I'm seeing it around. I mean, I've only watched the first episode of Members Only Palm beach, but I feel like that woman Hillary, this is her thing. She's like, let me put a curtain rod across my shoulders and drape some sheer fabric from it, and I'll walk around my house. And that's.
Mary
She's 80.
Ronnie
She's 80 years old. Heather, you're. What are you doing? What are you doing, lady? She looks like a piece of furniture. It's like, we're leaving for the summer, so just make sure the furniture's covered. And someone threw a green blanket over a dresser. Why are you dressed like that?
Andy Cohen
I know it is.
Heather
I don't know.
Andy Cohen
But, you know, I have to say, like, you're not wrong when you say it's a Lawrence Welk couch, but at the same time, I kind of like it. I actually love these, like, sheer things that are hanging from women's shoulders these days. And by these days, I mean I'm in 1962.
Heather
Like, I really.
Mary
I don't know.
Andy Cohen
I'm like, ooh, she's so glamorous. Maybe because it's like. Reminds me of, like, old pictures of, like. Like, my grandmother or something. That's, like, comforting.
Ronnie
But, like, are we regressing so much right now that we're like, you know what? Even cover your elbows, please. Please even cover your elbow skin. Please don't show up in any.
Mary
I can't see any part.
Ronnie
I do not want to see your wrists. Please cover it.
Andy Cohen
Oh, you know what? Sometimes we just need an organza moment to flow through. I actually. You know what? I thought Meredith looked really good. I liked her outfit quite a bit.
Ronnie
I think everybody looks kind of crazy. Mary looks crazy as well. She's wearing, like, really long gloves up past her elbows and, like, a big frilly shirt. I mean, I don't know. This. This show's known for everybody looking kind of crazy, and they did it. Lisa is dressed, like, her spray tan. It's just brown. It's just brown. Whitney looks pretty. I mean, yeah. Angie's, like, in a red booby. You know, like.
Whitney
Hey, boys.
Ronnie
Bronwyn's in, like, a yellow Easter. Like, she's going to a yellow Easter ball kind of thing, and she has really long hair. I can't be the only person that just kept seeing Monica every time they cut to Bronwyn. Did you?
Mary
At all?
Ronnie
I kept seeing Monica.
Andy Cohen
I did not see Monica. I did not. Can you elaborate?
Ronnie
Just looked like Monica.
Lisa Barlow
That's it.
Ronnie
It's nothing deep. I just. I don't know.
Andy Cohen
Metaphorically or.
Ronnie
No, no, there's no metaphorical Monica there. She's. Bronwyn is definitely head bobble. You know, Head bobble person. She's a unique character for sure. But no, Monica's going crazy right now all over Instagram with her, With her accusations and stuff that someone's like, have you Seen Monica's stories. They're, like, off the charts. And I was like, no, because I'm just out of aspirin. You know, I'm out.
Andy Cohen
Well, and wasn't Meredith. Didn't she recently go on two teas on a. On a pod? And wasn't she like, well, it's true. Someone was taken from the hospital and had her stomach palms, and it wasn't me, and I. Wasn't she implying it was Heather who got really wasted? Or is that like.
Ronnie
Well, I think the whole world is implying that it's Heather. You know, I think we all think it's Heather, but I don't know if she implied it, but, yeah, she was.
Whitney
Like, well, someone didn't go to a hospital and they did get their stomach pop, but it's not for me.
Ronnie
And did her, like, shrug thing. So I don't know. Who knows?
Andy Cohen
Yeah, well, let's get into it. The ladies arrive, they all say hi to Andy.
Ronnie
But listen, also, I just want to say on that front, I'm not. I'm sorry, but the stomach pump thing, I'm not opposed to people getting their stomach pumped. I mean, you need to do it if you're that drunk. And if you're going to get drunk to the point where you're pooping or peeing yourself and barfing on yourself at the same time, it sounds like a good night to me. I'm not even judging that.
Lisa Barlow
It's the hypocrisy.
Ronnie
Okay.
Andy Cohen
I didn't know that, like, getting so drunk they had to get your stomach pump was now, like, a thing that people were hiding. I feel like that's just some. I mean, it never happened to me, but, like, I feel like it's happened to people in the past. And then it's like, oh, yeah, I got so wasted they had to call the paramedics. I had to get my stomach pumped. I feel like people talk about that, like, oops, went too far. I don't. I never thought it was something that was like, it's a secret that must be hidden from the public at large. I think it's like, oh, well, they went too far. Whoops.
Ronnie
If you're going to come on a reunion and you're going to hide your elbow skin, then you are going to hide that you got your stomach pumped because you got too drunk. It shows in the dress. It shows in the dress.
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Ronnie
So, yeah, go ahead, start the recap. I'll shut up.
Andy Cohen
Well, I'm back. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season six reunion. I'm Andy Cohen and we've transferred these good time girls back to their Greek life, so to speak. Kalispera, Angie, Calispara.
Lisa Barlow
Bravo, Andy. You said it. Calispara. Calaspera.
Whitney
Actually, that means please leave this restaurant. So I just wanted. We've got medics standing backstage in case Angie has any accidents today. That is hilarious, Andy. Hurt your finger, hurt your face, hurt your lip, anything. Andy's.
Andy Cohen
How do you say, are those new boobs in Greek? She's like, kalispera.
Whitney
Oh, wow.
Andy Cohen
So we greet each other. So then he turns, he's like, DJ Meredith Marks, great to see you. How's your tour going? Oh, it's going good. And I'm good. And I'm on a little pause from Thanksgiving and the reunion, but then we'll amp it back up shortly. Wiggy, wiggy, wiggy.
Ronnie
Why have we not seen any of Meredith Mark's DJ career on the show? What the hell? Why are we only getting all of this, you know, other crap we're getting? I need some DJ Meredith Marks.
Andy Cohen
Yeah, is maybe like, DJing? Is it that allowed in Utah to have a DJ to be a DJ? It's like, no. The devil spins records. Joseph Smith saw the technology ahead of time. You shall not spin flat.
Whitney
Records are of the devil.
Mary
So we say hi to Bronwan.
Ronnie
She's wearing goat pair, guys. Okay? She can have a costume change later. She's like, I'm in. No costume changes today, Andy.
Andy Cohen
This is it.
Mary
It's just me. This is me. This is me.
Ronnie
He's like, all right, well, hi, Whitney.
Whitney
I'm loving that you're back to your blonde look. God, you really look like such a stupid, ugly ginger. Gross. Yeah, when you were right out really wanted to throw a carton of milk at your head and take your lunch money. Well, thank you, Annie. That was. That was for an anti bullying campaign. My bad.
Andy Cohen
Hi, Heather. How are you?
Ronnie
I.
Whitney
Did your daughter go blonde, too? She'd probably get beaten up a lot less. Am I right.
Heather
Heather?
Andy Cohen
I love surviving Mormonism. It was absolutely incredible is what I was told by someone who watched it.
Heather
Please.
Andy Cohen
How do you feel about it?
Heather
She's like, thank you. Thank you, Andy.
Andy Cohen
It's Been just really well received by. By whoever watched it. So I'm just really happy.
Whitney
Well, congratulations. Just like you're doing every day, surviving Mormonism. Glad you could rebel against Mormonism by dressing like a dresser.
Ronnie
That's been covered for the summer.
Whitney
No skin showing.
Mary
Good for you.
Whitney
Okay. Baby gorgeous.
Mary
Oh, wait.
Whitney
Hi, Mary.
Ronnie
Hi.
Whitney
Past Mary. We gonna drink and be married today? We gonna steal from any 80 year olds today?
Mary
Mary, she's like, yeah, I. I'm just.
Ronnie
Gonna be happy because I don't know how to do anything else. Andy.
Andy Cohen
Great. So, baby gorgeous, what's going on with you? Still leading a very different life from everybody.
Ronnie
Always.
Lisa Barlow
Always. I'm always leaving a different life than everybody and a.
Andy Cohen
Okay, okay.
Heather
Now, Meredith, what's your goal coming into tonight's reunion?
Andy Cohen
And please keep in mind we're gonna go around the couch and we're all gonna set an intention. All right, Meredith. Well, I think before I can even address anything, there's one question I need to ask which will change the trajectory of today for me. So, Whitney, would you like the red pill or the blue pill? My name is Meridorfeus and I'm gonna take you into the matrix right now. Depending on your answer this question, which want to go rabbit hole or no rabbit hole?
Whitney
I would just like to ask Whitney. When we spoke Bravo Con, you said there was some things that you wanted to clear up. So I wanted to go ahead and give you the floor to clear it up.
Heather
But the floor belongs to Bravo. You can't give me the floor. That's theirs. You can't do that, Meredith. This is what you always do.
Whitney
So I drink a lot at Bravo Con, and when I drink, I'm very happy. I'm a happy, loving drunk and I love to love on people. And I tried to talk to Meredith or I'm sorry for how things have fallen out with us. And I want to be your friend and that's what happened. Instead, she went and said that I retracted everything that I've said about her and Britney.
Ronnie
No.
Andy Cohen
You asked why we can't just be friends off camera and leave camera on, and that's where you started. And I said, because they are not the same thing. I. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I said they are the same thing.
Whitney
Sorry, you're twisting words. You're twisting words.
Andy Cohen
Well, I said, because they are the same thing, and I can't do that. And then you said while you were pushing me away, and I said, I don't believe in violence. I don't push people. And then I said, I establish boundaries. And you said, I don't like that. You call me a liar. And I said, well, I don't want. Well, don't lie about me. And then you said, you're right, I shouldn't lie about you, and I'll clean it up. And then my family all together lies a lemon together.
Ronnie
Nuh.
Whitney
I didn't retract anything I said. You took me trying to be kind to you, and you went, and you lied about me.
Ronnie
Wait, let's just parse what she's saying here. So Whitney comes up to Meredith at Bravocon, is like, why can't we be friends? Meredith's like, because you have trashed me the entire season, have followed me around and told everybody I'm an alcoholic and a pill popper. That's why.
Whitney
Well, but you. I did that because you were ignoring me.
Ronnie
Yeah, I was establishing boundaries because you. You were acting like a psycho, so stop lying.
Mary
Okay, I'll stop lying.
Whitney
I never said I was lying. I said I would stop lying.
Ronnie
Like, oh, okay, okay. But I honestly. What did Meredith think was gonna happen? She was gonna take drunk Whitney from Bravo con, and she really thought Whitney was gonna show up and be like, oh, yes, Andy, I lied the whole season just to piss Meredith off because she's never treated me like a cool girl. So, Meredith, what did you think was gonna happen? Come on.
Andy Cohen
Well, you were fall down drunk, and your husband carried you upstairs the way I have to carry my toddler to put him to bed.
Heather
Well, at Bravocon, in a happy drinking moment, maybe. Trust me, I'm never gonna do it again. Like, I will never try to be your friend. Well, my intention was. I don't get it. I've always supported you. I've always loved you. I've always had your back. Remember when I said, I alcoholic pill popper. That was me having your back. I mean, Lisa said awful, horrible things about you. I was there for you.
Ronnie
No, you've never been friends with Meredith. I don't know where this rewrite is coming from. You've maybe been friends for, like, half a season, but come on, I've always.
Whitney
Been a good friend to you.
Ronnie
And Lisa's like, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
You've always said awful, horrible things about her. It's not just me. Like, if you're gonna call me out, like, talk about what you've said, then. Talk about what you've said.
Heather
You took advantage.
Lisa Barlow
No, because we were all hordes and cheaters. Remember? Remember that one? Yeah, remember? No, I'm not gonna shut up. I'm not gonna shut up. I'm gonna open my mouth so big. I'm gonna open it still big right now. My mouth so bad. No, I'm not gonna shut it. Well, she doesn't need to shut up.
Whitney
So don't tell her what to do, because you're not the boss of the world.
Mary
That's what you're not like, yeah, don't.
Andy Cohen
Bring me into your argument, and I won't open your mouth.
Mary
Mary's like, just relax. Just.
Ronnie
Just say what you mean. Whitney, you have the floor. Say.
Whitney
But she always talks for Meredith. Don't tell her what to do. She can say what she wants to say. She's entitled to have an opinion.
Heather
But you took what happened at BravoCon and you lied about me. And I stand by everything that I've witnessed on the plane. I stand by my opinions about your life.
Whitney
Okay, so now that you have the answer to your question, how will the trajectory of the night go, Meredith?
Andy Cohen
Right? I mean, look, I didn't lie, Whitney. You're the one who lied, and you didn't like that. You were called out, and I established boundaries.
Whitney
I did not lie. I own that. I was drunk. And I already apologized to Annie for being so drunk on Watch what happens live, because that's on me.
Mary
And he's like, yeah, we were just.
Whitney
Scared you weren't gonna make it state. You're not helping, Andy. My feet weren't working. Okay, well, let's just leave it there. You know, she doesn't have working feet. It's a.
Andy Cohen
It's a thing I'd like to point out. We're gonna believe that this one over here really remembers our conversation when she admitted she was fallout drunk cases missed.
Whitney
I remember our conversation. You lied. Do not call me a liar. It's like you black out with me. You need to stop. You're a blackout.
Andy Cohen
I really wish Meredith had just accused Whitney of watching a movie. She's like, well, have you recently watched a rom com from the past seven years? Because if you don't remember.
Whitney
Really, you didn't lie then? How did crazy rich Asians end.
Andy Cohen
The ultimate litmus test?
Ronnie
And she's like, I own what I do. Meredith says, I own what I do. You know, I'm not gonna.
Whitney
I. I don't own things that I don't do that you create for me to say I do. And she's like, that sounds like a whole bunch of semantics.
Ronnie
No, that's actually not what semantics means, Whitney.
Andy Cohen
That's not the. Just because she says words doesn't make it semantics. That is actually not the semantics moment. Meredith does semantics all the time, but this is not one of them.
Ronnie
No, you don't even know what semantics are, you dummy. God. Whitney. Whitney. Arguing is like pissing into a waterfall. It is so fucking funny to me. So Meredith's like, well, I own my truth. And Lisa's like, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
End it there. That sounds like the truth. Yeah, just send it there. Sounds truthful enough. Stupid Whitney.
Whitney
Okay, Lisa, I want to talk about you for a little bit.
Lisa Barlow
No, we were talking about Meredith being drunk. Let's keep talking about Meredith being drunk.
Andy Cohen
He's like, no, we're gonna talk about you. So Lisa may have skipped Angie's RV trip to hang out with Ben and Blake, and when the time came to defend herself against fanciful tales and legal drama, she definitely showed up. Does Lisa love her life?
Heather
Yes.
Andy Cohen
Does her clarity lunch raise more questions than answers? Yes. Are we gonna roll a clip? You bet. Take a look. Ha. That was a good bit.
Ronnie
And it was a clip package of Lisa being, like, dismissed.
Lisa Barlow
Dismiss. Those cases were all dismissed. Hi, baby. Gordon.
Ronnie
Time.
Andy Cohen
So Andy is like, heather, do you.
Heather
Still consider Lisa to be a risky friend? She goes, yes, I do, because I think she plays with really high stakes, and she's gonna fight to the death. And so, like, it's her way or the highway. And I think that makes her risky friend.
Andy Cohen
What?
Heather
Chat.
Andy Cohen
GPT responds with that. She plays with high stakes. What she's gonna fight to the death.
Heather
Huh?
Mary
Lisa.
Whitney
Lisa Barlow. No one plays with higher stakes than Lisa Barlow.
Ronnie
Okay, thanks for the preview of, like, the new James Bond.
Whitney
She's back. She's playing with high stakes, and she's taking no prisoners. Risky friend. Lisa Barlow.
Andy Cohen
I just don't get it. I think it's just she's saying risky friend because she's gonna, like, well, what does it mean to be a risky friend? Does it mean that you're friends with them, but they're gonna, like. They're gonna turn on you and, like, take you down? I guess that would be a risky friend. But I just don't understand with the way that Heather has responded, how that makes her a risky friend. It all sort of like these generic sayings that she's sort of strung together in a way.
Ronnie
Yeah. I mean, I think what she means is, like, lisa's gonna be your friend, and then the second she's mad at you, she's gonna go dig up all this dirt on you, and she's gonna, blah, blah, you know, put it out on tv. And how can you be friends with somebody you can't trust like that? But, I mean, the trajectory of the season was Heather pretending to be Lisa's friend and then being like, you're a risky friend.
Whitney
I can't be friends with you.
Ronnie
And then turning on Lisa and accusing her of doing all this stuff and following her around, screaming on a boat about, you know, all these crimes that she supposedly committed and everything else. So I don't know. It's like. It's a lot of projection from Ms. Heather.
Andy Cohen
Ms. Heather, yeah, it really is.
Ronnie
But, you know, she's dressed like a couch today. And I have to say, Heather is. Did make a very smart move, because she's getting on my nerves this season. But I do love a couch.
Mary
And you know what?
Andy Cohen
Heather looks to me like? You know those horror movies where there's, like, some sort of awful thing that's under some sort of sheer thing, and you pull and you pull and you pull and you pull, and then, like, a skeleton pops up? That's what it feels like. I just want to, like, pull at her dress and see what gets revealed.
Ronnie
Yeah, scary.
Andy Cohen
So Heather is like. So Lisa says, well, I think Heather can be sneaky. So for me, if you think I'm a risky friend, I think you're snaky in our friendship.
Heather
She's like, what? When have I ever been sneaky? Tell me one time I've been sneaky to you.
Andy Cohen
So Lisa goes, yeah, well, farting while.
Heather
Making off her camera.
Andy Cohen
That wasn't meant for anything. That was sneaky.
Ronnie
That was snakey of you.
Whitney
She's like, angie brought that up, though.
Ronnie
She's.
Lisa Barlow
No, because you told her to bring it up.
Whitney
And Meredith says, yeah, because she was encouraged to bring it up. And she said she's gonna do what she's told to do. We all know that.
Lisa Barlow
And she's like, yeah, you told her it would be funny.
Ronnie
She goes, yeah, but I thought it was funny.
Lisa Barlow
So she goes, yeah, but that's sneaky.
Ronnie
So now we find out that Heather is the one who told Angie, oh, you need to bring that up on camera. Cause that shit's gonna be funny. And Heather doesn't really deny it. She's like, yeah, but it was funny.
Lisa Barlow
She goes, no, that's snaky. That's snaky behavior. Telling Angie to do something and saying, like, it'll be funny. Just say it. That's. That's snakey. You're snaky. You know what? You are snakey.
Ronnie
Nancy's like, but you've told Multiple.
Mary
You know, you've told multiple people and now you're confirming.
Lisa Barlow
She's like, but I'm just saying it as a fact. And you left at the airport and you said, heather told me to do it. And she said it would be funny. You know what that is? It rhymes with bakey.
Whitney
It's snakey.
Lisa Barlow
It's snakey.
Andy Cohen
It's also first hand evidence. Not that we need any of Heather producing the show. Right. Oh, you should bring that up on camera because that's. That'll be a really funny moment. It's like, yeah, it is a funny moment and it was funny that it was brought up. But it's like, just. Can you just like, can you just be. You let them be them and like, let be authentic rather than like, like telling people what they should or should not do on camera, you know?
Ronnie
Yeah, because Lisa would do it anyway. Look, Lisa eventually would have done it anyway. She would have gotten been. She would have gotten so upset that she would have been like, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
Your husband farts while he makes out with people in bars. I've heard that.
Andy Cohen
So.
Ronnie
But also, I mean, Lisa, like, you are the one who said it. So Heather could have. Heather could. You know, Heather did apparently tell Angie, do it. It'll be funny on camera and stuff like that. But Lisa, you are the one who said it. So, you know, we can't blame Heather for everything. Although it is fun too. So Angie's like, yeah, but Heather's like.
Whitney
But I did think it was funny.
Mary
Lisa says, yeah, but you know what?
Lisa Barlow
We're not even the best position. But I wouldn't have done that. I would say to her face, like, I would say it behind my hair to her face.
Andy Cohen
But you were saying, I don't do that. I'm a good person. And that's why I responded. And I did it to your face, not behind your back. And he's like, no, no, no. You were saying, I never do this, I never do that. Things like that. Heather's like, but, you know, you don't.
Heather
Think it's sneaky to hold your hair in front of your mouth and to say that about her. You were the original snake in the sisterhood.
Lisa Barlow
Oh, you know what? When you're ready to listen and not talk over me and tag team because you're like, codependent in your responses and actions, you have to tag team. You have. What is it like two snakes?
Ronnie
What?
Lisa Barlow
It's like two snakes. You're snakeies.
Andy Cohen
I love Lisa. I think really found her groove with the whole Are you ready to listen? Bit that she did multiple times. Because that did. It was like a different vibe for her. Because normally Lisa's vibe is like, I never said that. And this time she's like, are you ready to listen? When you're ready to listen, I'll talk. Are you ready to laugh?
Ronnie
Heather's.
Whitney
Heather's saying, yeah, but, I mean, that's really rich that we tag team. I mean, you too.
Lisa Barlow
I don't need to tag team. I don't need to tag team.
Whitney
Yeah. You don't think you tag team with Meredith? Yes, you do.
Lisa Barlow
I'm fucking solo, honey. Oh, you're solo? Yes, I'm solo. I'm solo, right, Meredith.
Whitney
She ain't solo.
Andy Cohen
See, here. Here, you say the solo part and I'll say low. Okay?
Heather
So.
Ronnie
Another just rolls around.
Lisa Barlow
We're not attacking. Sorry. You know what you are, Heather? You're snay.
Andy Cohen
Huh?
Lisa Barlow
Okay, we need to work on it. We need to work on it. We need to work on it.
Andy Cohen
So Meredith's like, space is different than Lisa's version of a space. So therefore, there's different time in between our words coming together.
Lisa Barlow
No, the word was snakey. It was snakey. So I say snay, and you say key. Okay, let's try it again. Snay. Okay, well, you know what?
Andy Cohen
No, you're supposed to do the E part.
Lisa Barlow
No, that was closer.
Ronnie
But that's.
Mary
That's.
Lisa Barlow
If we had a three. That's if we had three people, but we just have two people. We have to keep it, like two. Two syllables.
Andy Cohen
What about if you say. Okay, well, what about if you say sn and I say hey? And you say. And I say.
Lisa Barlow
You know what, Mary? When you're ready to listen. When you're ready to listen. Call me when you're ready to listen, though.
Whitney
Well, we just stand up for ourselves.
Ronnie
Okay.
Mary
And others.
Whitney
Like, then why is she writing for you so hard? She's writing for you so hard. It's not writing for me. It's called being a supportive, loyal friend.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, she's a.
Whitney
She's a.
Lisa Barlow
She's a family who. She's a whore from New York with a family that poses. I'll say it. And I mean that as a compliment.
Whitney
Yeah, that's exactly how it's meant. Exactly how it was taken this year, my Christmas card sent, merry Christmas, wiggy, wiggy from the whore family of New York with the family that pauses.
Andy Cohen
I mean, did you watch the last episode? Heather Riding is a very Utah thing.
Heather
Well, you're not from Utah, so you would know, so.
Andy Cohen
No, I'm not. I'm not. Yeah, you. But you are from Utah. Oh, sorry. You are from Utah, so you would know.
Heather
That's what I meant to say. Thanks for not correcting me, non. Tag team.
Andy Cohen
People of my team. Anyway, you're from Utah.
Lisa Barlow
I was reading. Now I was reading notes. Let's take it from the top.
Heather
Okay.
Lisa Barlow
Okay.
Heather
You're from Utah. You would know a thing.
Lisa Barlow
I'm not from Utah. No, I'm not. No, I'm not from Utah.
Heather
Girl.
Ronnie
No, I'm not.
Lisa Barlow
Utah's gross.
Heather
I mean, how long have you lived in Utah? You're a real housewife of Salt Lake City. You lived here 25 years in the sisterhood.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, but guess what? My DNA is not Utah.
Andy Cohen
Okay, well, what is your DNA?
Lisa Barlow
It's Kit Kat's Diet Coke in New York. Thick and through.
Mary
Always. Always.
Lisa Barlow
My DNA has red pigtails in a braid, okay? Because my DNA is Wendy's. That's it. You know what? Wendy's doesn't have a state. It doesn't have a state.
Andy Cohen
It's universal. But if it did have a state, it'd probably be New York.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, you just stop trying to be so frosty.
Andy Cohen
Guess what it's like trying to figure. Push a square into a circle, and the square's a burger from Wendy's.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah. You know what? You know how I know what my DNA is? Because there's a company called 23andMe. They used to just be called, like, 23, but then they got a picture with me, so they started calling themselves 23andMe. Like, they're so impressed with themselves, they wouldn't do that for someone from Utah. Utah's gross. Like, did you know that spelled backwards, Utah means hatu?
Andy Cohen
Like, whatever, whatever.
Heather
Guess what? You know what DNA spells?
Andy Cohen
You know what it stands for? The D stands for Dinkins. The N stands for the New York Knicks without the K, and the A stands for Astroplaise.
Heather
That's all New York, baby.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, it's from New York.
Ronnie
And Andy's like, so, Mary, do you agree with Heather? And Mary's like, that Lisa's a risky friend.
Mary
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Lisa Barlow
How am I risky, Mary? Okay, how am I risky? You know what? I want you to answer. Side examples, please. She's like, okay, well, let's start off.
Ronnie
With you're a little bit delusional. Okay, does anybody want to define what actual risky friend means? Because this doesn't make sense either. She's like, you're delusional. And that's why you're risky because you believe things that aren't true. Like you just said, you live a different life from all of us, which doesn't even make sense. And that's just sort of offensive. I mean, that's sort of offensive. I have a painting of me being held by Jesus in my church.
Mary
What do you have?
Ronnie
That was paid for by a lot of SNAP benefits. So what do you have, Lisa?
Andy Cohen
I have snaps, too. Like, I was, like, really into snaps.
Heather
Like, yeah, like snap bracelets.
Andy Cohen
I kind of invented those when I was a kid. Yeah, so I don't think that makes me risky.
Mary
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Lisa Barlow
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Andy Cohen
I think. I think a risky friend is like a Christopher Walken character in, like, a crime movie who's like, hey, I got a thing going on. Will you help me with this thing? Will you just. Just pick me up in the car at this time in front of the bank? That's my Christopher Walken. But I think that's.
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Ronnie
You just got out of bed today and you're like, you know what? Today is going to bring a Christopher Walken. I don't care. It's going to get in there. It's going to get in there somehow.
Mary
God damn it.
Andy Cohen
What I need is to have the car in front of the bank, and when I show up, no questions, just hit the gas and that's it. To me, that's a risky friend because you're getting me involved in your bank robbery. That's very.
Ronnie
You don't even have to go into his movies. I mean, look up Natalie Wood's death. You know, Christopher Walken is literally a risky friend.
Mary
Okay?
Ronnie
Like, you do not want to go on a boat with Christopher Walken. Was he making a joke? He's like, with.
Andy Cohen
With what's his face.
Ronnie
Look it up. No, not Jack Wagner. Not park overall either. Don't even say it.
Andy Cohen
Don't even say, could you imagine Jack Wagner? He's like, all I need is a life preserver for Natalie. Someone please. You sang that song, right? What I'm saying is, Robert Wagner.
Ronnie
Yeah. Husband. The. The theory is Robert Wagner threw her overboard after drugging her because she was having an affair with Christopher Walken at the time. That's like the. The, you know, guess what I'm say.
Andy Cohen
Both of them risky friends.
Ronnie
See, that's a risky friend. Yes. Like you, boat, you know, your friend. Your friend didn't come back that you might. Might have been having an affair with.
Mary
That's a risky friend.
Andy Cohen
A risky friend.
Ronnie
Thank you.
Andy Cohen
You know who's a risky friend? Jen Shaw. Jen Shaw is a risky friend because she is a criminal. So that's a risky friend. But, like, Lisa is a risky friend. I just don't. I. I'm open to it. I'm vastly open to it. But, like, I just. You need to provide your receipts, your proof, your timeline, and your screenshots, ma'.
Heather
Am.
Ronnie
Yeah, I mean, I think, look, being friends with a real housewife is a risky endeavor in general. You're all risky friends. That's why you're hired.
Andy Cohen
We say that as someone who's befriended various housewives and get canceled. That's a great trick. That's a great skill that we have. Is trending. And then being like, oh, my God, we hung out with so and so. Everyone in Grappling's Lamb. Guess what? We all. We just hung out with so and so. And then the next episode, they say something racist, and we're like, ah, just kidding. Everyone.
Mary
Take it back.
Ronnie
We're risky friends. So Lisa is like, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
I wouldn't be insecure. Think that was delusional. I wouldn't be offended by that, because I do lead a different life. Like, I lead a different life than you. Sorry. Sorry, you guys.
Ronnie
And Meredith is like, well, I don't think.
Whitney
I think everybody lives a different life from everybody here. And I don't think there's anything insulting. There's nothing insulting. You know, my mattress is clean. I live a different life than Heather, gang. It's not an offense. It is what it is.
Andy Cohen
And Mary's like, but how it was said. That's just not how it was said. And then Heather, like, turns to Angie and goes, see?
Heather
And this is not tag teaming.
Andy Cohen
I'm like, but you're tag teaming with Angie right here. I mean, like, I just don't think tag teaming is. Is a. It's. It's not a new phenomenon. Like, that's sort of like the big thing. I'm sorry. Was there anyone on this show a meteorological event named after their attack teaminess? Was there anyone named Bad weather, Bad Weather.
Lisa Barlow
Bad weather.
Andy Cohen
Talk about risky friend. You're literally bad weather. That's the definition of a risky friend. You're like, you could blow my hat.
Whitney
Off, Chanel from a store that wouldn't really let any of you in, says Whitney. Why were you so eager to bring up the lawsuits at lunch on the RV trip without Lisa being. Being there to defend herself? Oh, well, it's because she didn't want to talk about her own stuff.
Heather
Tag team.
Whitney
Well, I don't believe you were away at work. I think there's a different reason. I don't know what, but you've never missed a girls trip, and you've never missed the opportunity to film, and I don't believe that you are. Whitney, are you going to finish your sentence? I wasn't talking.
Andy Cohen
You were.
Whitney
You were talking tag teaming.
Andy Cohen
You were tag teaming.
Whitney
And I've never seen you post a picture of Ben Affleck.
Andy Cohen
Well, you know, we don't talk about.
Heather
Ben Affleck on this TV show because he was the original tag team with Matt Damon, and we don't approve of tag teams in this sisterhood.
Whitney
Well, do we have to post anything? I mean, if a tree fell on Ben Affleck in a wood and Matt Damon wasn't there to post, Instagram did. Been half dead under a tree in the woods or what?
Andy Cohen
But you know what? Like, I. I do work and I.
Heather
Do do amazing things, like Heather's been to events of mine.
Andy Cohen
Okay.
Heather
And Whitney's like, but I thought you were in Miami recovering from a, you know, a facelift.
Lisa Barlow
No, no, no. I was there working. I was there working. How dare you? How dare you.
Whitney
Wait, you thought Lisa was in Miami recuperating from a facelift? This is good, Stu, because I saw her. I had saw her. She said she was with Ben Affleck to one person. And then I saw pictures of her in Miami, but then I saw pictures of Ben Affleck in Miami, and I said, lisa got Ben Affleck's face in Miami. And then the first photo I ever seen Lisa post, bare face, no makeup, and she looks so beautiful. I'm complimenting you, Lisa.
Andy Cohen
Why? Why did. Did she no one just go on the Internet and see where Ben Affleck and Blake Lively were that day? Like, it's just this easiest way to cross check. I had. But also that I was friends with Blake Lively. And then everyone in crappens got mad at me, like, how could you be friends with her?
Heather
I'm like, but she's pretty and famous.
Mary
She said she'll do the crappies.
Andy Cohen
You gotta do what you gotta do. Talk about a risky friend.
Ronnie
She took a picture with me at a party.
Mary
We're best friends.
Ronnie
No, that's Lisa. And Lisa is very. Well, first of all, the whole, like, okay, I thought you got a facelift. Because I went online and I saw a picture of you bare faced with no makeup on, so I assumed you got a facelift. I don't think that. That's what I mean. Every picture I get of people with the facelift, they're either in bandages, like, hey, look, I just got a facelift. Which we don't necessarily need to see.
Lisa Barlow
Guys, by the way.
Ronnie
Or they're like, with the full face of makeup, trying to hide the, you know, scars and stuff. I've never heard the accusation, like, you're a bare face.
Whitney
Like, you got.
Ronnie
Wouldn't you have seen the marks if she got the facelift, I don't know. Why are we worried about it? And if she did get a facelift, how much was it? Can you get us a discount?
Whitney
I would love one.
Mary
I want to look like Blake Lively.
Ronnie
So Lisa's like, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
I'm gonna show you my picture of Ben Affleck in my phone. Because I know him, I know him. Look, it's a picture.
Ronnie
Then she shows a picture of Lisa when she's in like the ninth grade next to Ben Affleck. And the picture's like, from 2017.
Andy Cohen
See?
Lisa Barlow
Proof. The proof is in the pudding. You just ate the 2017 pudding, stupid.
Andy Cohen
Why did it look like it was from 2003? It was from 2017. We had like, good cameras in 2017 on our phones, but it was all grainy and like washed out and the colors were weird. I love that.
Ronnie
That's her proof that she was with Ben Affleck a few months ago. A picture from 2017.
Andy Cohen
You know what the funny thing is? Instead of saying, hey, my friend Lisa's a baddie and she's done really cool things for 18 years cuz she's a true New Yorker. That's her DNA. You'd rather denigrate it and say, I don't believe her. I don't think she's there. If I did that with every single one of what you guys did, the list would go on and on and on and on.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, you know what?
Ronnie
You know what?
Lisa Barlow
I need more for this group.
Mary
I need more people saying, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
My friend Lisa's a baddie. My friend Lisa's a baddie.
Ronnie
I have to point this out. That Right before this, Whitney goes, yeah.
Whitney
But there's a lot of good doctors in Miami.
Ronnie
And Mary goes, well, he wasn't a good one. Fuck off, man. How does no one tell Mary to fuck off? Like, honestly, she's so funny on this show. Like, from an audience perspective, I love it. But how is no one just like, fuck you, Mary.
Mary
Okay?
Ronnie
You're the. What are you hiding under those gloves?
Mary
What are you hiding?
Andy Cohen
I think they just feel bad for her because of everything going on in her family at the moment. But, like, her time will come. No one likes it when someone's more popular. And Heather will come for Mary soon enough, so.
Ronnie
Well, it just doesn't make sense. Why are you upset that her son. Why are you feeling bad for her that her son's an addict, but you don't feel bad for Meredith? That Meredith is an addict? According to you guys? Like, come on. This is like firsthand addict. It's only. It's only. It's only. We only feel bad for it if it's someone you know. Come on.
Andy Cohen
If it's a child. So Lisa's going on about, like, I wish people would call me a baddie and be like, lift me up and, like, praise me for the work I'm doing. So Angie's like, are you saying that anyone here who's done cool things that you've only done, like, one or you only have one half franchises or I could count your money. You are negative. You don't even do it yourself.
Lisa Barlow
So Lisa's like, yeah, but I said that after you said, I don't understand my business. You said, you don't understand my business. And you called me to. That's why I said that you. You only have one and a half franchises.
Ronnie
And she goes, you don't understand my business.
Lisa Barlow
Yes, I do. I'm not dumb. I'm not dumb. I'm a baddie.
Andy Cohen
God, go open a salon then. No, I open lounges, and I'm really good at that, too. I open up good lounges. And she's like, that's not a hair salon. Beauty industry is different from what you do. No, it's the same concept. Okay? I understand the service industry extremely well. Like, for instance, when you open up a hair salon, you have to make sure you're stocked with, like, Vita Tequila and vodka and make sure all the nozzles are in and you need to have little soft ottomans for people to sit on when they get their haircut. I understand pretty well.
Whitney
Okay, okay, okay. Well, Fresh from Wolf is for sale online. Says Veronica. And by that, I meant the domain name says Bronwyn. Why jump on the bandwagon and air out the various legal issues concerning the Lisa, instead of saying it to her face?
Mary
And she's like, well, at that point.
Ronnie
Lisa and I weren't speaking, and I have long hair now. And I don't have to answer this question if I don't want to, but I will because I'm an honest person, and honest people love to answer questions. And she'd block me on everything. She'd block me on everything. So how could I answer her questions? How could I ask her? How could I ask her to her face? How could I do that? Got you. I got you from Fresh from Wolf is for sale. The domain name, I mean, on the Internet. Got you. Nailed it.
Heather
She made it very clear to me in New York that we were not friends, and we were never friends. And she continued to say stuff on Twitter that proved to me that we'd probably never be friends in the future. So I didn't come with documents. I didn't research anything. It just was in the newspaper. And I never accused you of anything. I said, this is what I read, and this is what I saw, and it's concerning, and I can feel that way. I'm allowed to feel that way.
Ronnie
Are people not allowed to read newspapers anymore? Are they not allowed to read newspapers anymore?
Andy Cohen
But it was the Denigrate, my character. Denigrate. I've said it two times. Times now. Pretty cool, huh?
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, it was snakey.
Ronnie
Well, you know what? The same way that you denigrated my character the last time I saw you.
Lisa Barlow
No, you denigrated your character with lies. Yeah, that was a lie. Denigration. You did it. You're. You're really good at live integrations.
Heather
All right, well, you know what? You play with fire, you're going to get played back. Some would say you play with fire, you're going to get burned. You don't get burned. The fire actually plays back with you. It's actually really sweet.
Ronnie
It's actually, you're, like, playing a card game with fire. Fire. You're playing a card game with fire.
Heather
You ever see those movies of. Those videos of. It feels like a movie, you know, of like a. A kitten and like a, you know, a. Like a lion playing, and you're like, oh, my God, you would think that one would eat the other, but they are actually just, like, friends. That's like you playing with fire because fire's playing with you. It's just so sweet.
Whitney
So what are the facts, Lisa. What are the facts? Do lions play with chickens or is that AI? I just can't tell anymore.
Lisa Barlow
You know what? The facts are that I have one pending case which we hope to have resolved as summary judgment. And there's one case actively being litigated. And you know what? I gave it a side of honey mustard, and it's much more comfortable now. And the rest are dismissed. And I wasn't worried about it. And I don't know why anyone else was worried about it. I just didn't get it.
Heather
Wait, why can't you have judgment in the winter? Why does it have to be summary judgment?
Lisa Barlow
Okay, you know what? Just shut up, Whitney. You're so stupid. My God, so dumb.
Andy Cohen
Don't grade the judgment, okay? You literally.
Whitney
But a summary judgment would mean that you'd have to pay them. That's what it means. Because you say you're richer than all of us and you owe hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Ronnie
And she's.
Andy Cohen
No.
Heather
What?
Lisa Barlow
Denied. You know what? Deny. If I had a step, it would say deny. Deny.
Ronnie
No, that's not what summary judgment brought was like. That's not what summary judgment means.
Lisa Barlow
She goes, yeah, yeah.
Ronnie
Huh?
Lisa Barlow
Because I've won a summary judgment before. And you know what, Bronwyn? Your case was very different than mine because I wasn't in a criminal case. I had a civil litigation. And you know what? You've been sued. You've been sued.
Mary
Just.
Ronnie
You know what?
Mary
Whatever you say about me is to deflect you.
Whitney
And you.
Ronnie
You'd owed these people money and you.
Mary
Were paying them back.
Ronnie
And that is the truth. You're not paying them back.
Whitney
Okay?
Ronnie
You're not paying the people back the money that you owe them.
Andy Cohen
Denied.
Heather
Denied. Denial. Denialing.
Andy Cohen
Just a river in Egypt.
Heather
What is it?
Ronnie
But I mean, if you're not paying them back, then that's a bummer. You should. You should. But you do owe the money. I mean, it doesn't matter where rivers are. It doesn't matter where the river is. You owe that.
Mary
You owe the river money.
Andy Cohen
Criminal allegations. Your criminal allegations.
Ronnie
No, I do not have criminal allegations against me.
Heather
Don't.
Ronnie
We don't.
Andy Cohen
And you don't understand the law. Even though you went through, like. Yeah, because you went through it all with the law. You don't understand the law because you don't know the law. You fought the law and the law fought back with you and played with you like fireplace with people.
Ronnie
Yeah, mine was actually dismissed with the judge. And yours was dismissed because you paid those people back. Or you're trying to.
Mary
That's not true.
Andy Cohen
That's not true. Denied. Denied.
Ronnie
Do we have any proof that. That Bronwyn's stuff was dismissed? Because Bronwyn is still so squirrely about talking. What? Talking about what all that stuff is. I thought her stuff wasn't dismissed. I thought they made some kind of agreement, and then it was sealed. It was dismissed. I'm so confused by the whole Bronwyn case. I need clarity. I need clarity.
Mary
Please, anybody.
Ronnie
The Bronwyn's very good at this because they still don't get it out of her. And she just keeps on nodding until they all agree. She's just like, you know, what's a very different situation?
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, but you know what? It's a very different situation.
Ronnie
That's what I said, Lisa.
Andy Cohen
No, it's not.
Lisa Barlow
It's what I said. Why is my head shaking?
Mary
Why is my head nodding?
Lisa Barlow
My God, my head hurts. Oh, my God. My threads.
Mary
My boink, boink.
Lisa Barlow
My threads just came undone. Oh, my God.
Ronnie
Her face just falls to the ground.
Mary
Ron was like, nailed it.
Whitney
Got her.
Andy Cohen
So Andy's like, okay, well, you're both.
Heather
Telling me what each other's situation is.
Andy Cohen
Well, I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna tell you what my situation is. And, like, okay, we have. All of our cases against us have been dismissed, and.
Heather
Which means we basically have won them all.
Andy Cohen
And there's, like, one pending litigation. Just, like, one stupid little pending litigation, and that's it.
Whitney
You know, you never owed anyone money, and they just made it up to be mean. Lisa Barlow. That's what you're saying.
Andy Cohen
You're all worried about it. Other than the fact that, like, you're just like, whatever, you know?
Ronnie
Well, the same reason you're worried about all of our lives. The same reason you're worried about all our lives. That's why.
Andy Cohen
You know what? Bronwyn just got here. And the bottom line is, like, last year, you lied about me and said I said I faked. I. I said you said that you faked. Okay, you lied about me and said that I said that you faked a miscarriage to someone that I said I didn't say it to.
Ronnie
No, you know what? Don't say another word about it, because we've decided. We've decided we're not going to talk about that anymore. And we don't talk about things that I. I don't want to talk about, only things that I want to talk about. No, no, no, no, no. We're only going to talk about it.
Andy Cohen
Say a half word and Meredith does the other half. The word.
Ronnie
No, I have abided by the truth. And you. And. And that you and I said that we would leave families alone. Bronwyn, you've been talking about family. What are you talking about? I mean, I guess she was talking about Meredith's family, technically not Lisa's, but whatever.
Andy Cohen
Come on.
Ronnie
You hypocrite.
Mary
No, you have not.
Andy Cohen
I think Lisa bringing up the miscarriage again, that's a.
Ronnie
Like.
Andy Cohen
I'm like, what are you. Oh, Lisa, you're going to. You're cuz. What's going to do is it's going to sidetrack the entire conversation as it actually does into. You said you wouldn't say that, and now you've said it and it becomes something else entirely. It's like I was like, lisa, don't bring up the miscarriage thing. Like, let that one just die because it's not going to serve you right now.
Ronnie
Yeah, but Bronwin's saying because you. You are the one who's worried about our lives. And she's like, no, I was never worried about your life. You acute. You asked me to go talk to. Talked to the mother in law or whatever. The. The parent, the. The kids of the parents. And then you accused me of saying all of this stuff. I wasn't into your life. You told me to go into your life and then you accused me of all this stuff. And Brahm was like, no, you're not allowed to talk about that.
Mary
Well.
Ronnie
Stop putting her in the position.
Mary
Where she has to defend herself with it.
Ronnie
I mean, I don't know, but she's.
Lisa Barlow
Like, you were the one who lied about saying that I said that you had a miscarriage.
Ronnie
Which is so this show by just that line in general is just so this show.
Lisa Barlow
You said that I lied about you saying that I lied about miscarriages.
Whitney
You said I had a miscarriage.
Lisa Barlow
Barbara Walters. They're sneaky, sneaky.
Andy Cohen
Well, okay.
Ronnie
Okay.
Andy Cohen
You said you and your husband said you would piss on my head every private conversation. You denigrate my character because you're denigrating my character. Hold on. Okay. By the way, I forgot to mention I went to a house. Cause I looked at a house with the solid SLC people and I went into the den and there was a great. In the den. And I said, den.
Lisa Barlow
I great.
Andy Cohen
There's a den of great right now. Guess what? Yeah, that's called wordplay. Yeah, see, I don't want to be.
Heather
Okay, Okay. I have. I don't know what that metaphor was. But I have said nothing about your family and I've said nothing about your children. And you continue to bring my daughter up and I don't care what version you want to say, you can just keep on doing it over and over and over again.
Andy Cohen
Okay, no, I'm not talking about your daughter, okay? It's an example of your bad behavior of the daughter you didn't have.
Heather
Okay, well you know what? See that's not going to help because like use an example that involves my daughter is speaking about my family and I have begged you to stop and I've told you to stop and you keep on, you keep on going forward.
Ronnie
No, I'm sorry.
Heather
Every time you do it.
Mary
No to me.
Ronnie
No. Because you, you're the one accusing her of being a liar and she's saying no, you're a liar and this was an example that you lied. Just because your daughter had something to do with that example does not mean that you didn't lie about it. I'm sorry, I'm giving it to Lisa on this one because she didn't say anything bad about the doctor daughter. She didn't. She's just saying you lied. You. You accused me of doing this thing regarding your daughter, that's all. And if your husband can sit there and say all this mean about Lisa all season long, then your farty ass husband can take the payback. Todd doesn't get to come in here and be a part time housewife. If Todd wants to come on and talk everybody else and say horrible things about them, then they're allowed to watch the show and then say shitty things about Todd. You know, and she didn't say anything about your daughter. And Todd can handle his goddamn self if he wants to.
Andy Cohen
Well, conveniently, just the other week at.
Heather
BravoCon, a fan sent me a video of you talking about my husband. You were body shaming him, talking about how fat he is, how small his penis is. And I have the video the fan sent me. I am so angry that you talked shit about Todd on a video that here, I'm gonna put it here for all the American. Cuz I'm so mad that people are spreading these lies about Todd and I want America to see these things that they're that you're saying. I cannot believe that you would say that Todd is fat. America, go look at him, look at Lisa saying that. Tod. Can you believe it?
Lisa Barlow
Can we. Andy, could we roll the video? I labeled it bitch tits. Okay, great, thanks. Thanks.
Mary
Mm, mm, mm, mm.
Ronnie
So the video comes up And Lisa, these people at BravoCon, these fans are so shady. Filming Lisa from in between two other people. As Lisa just openly shit talks Ron way. And Lisa's going, yeah, you know what?
Lisa Barlow
It's because Todd, like, I didn't even know if that was like Todd or if it was like, his belly, it's, like, so big. It's, like, so big. He has, like, boobs. He has, like, hairy boobs, I think they're called Belly.
Andy Cohen
Is that he probably can't even denigrate his own character. His. His belly's in the way of his denigration.
Ronnie
You just didn't say one thing about my husband. You've been a tik tok comments. You've been on Twitter. You continue to this day.
Lisa Barlow
That's a lie.
Ronnie
Which. It's not a lie, Lisa. You have fucking been doing it. I wish Lisa would just say, yeah, well, he's talking shit about me, so tell your husband to shut up first.
Heather
Well, I mean, up until we were in Greece, you were saying my husband was a dirty old man and a pervert. Okay?
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, because he is. Yeah, because he is.
Heather
You were saying that he's, like, going on airplanes and looking at pictures of other women and flirting with him.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, that's you.
Andy Cohen
That was you saying. Yeah, that was actually you.
Ronnie
You accused Todd of cheating on me.
Lisa Barlow
That. Yeah, that was yo.
Ronnie
And then you denied it the next day.
Lisa Barlow
No, that was you, too.
Heather
You accused Todd of stealing cherries from the top of a sundae before someone's ready to give it up.
Lisa Barlow
That was yo. That was yo. Yeah, it was yo.
Ronnie
Okay, well, you know, stop accusing me of doing things that I'm accusing people of.
Whitney
Okay, Lisa?
Ronnie
Okay, so now Bronwyn's like, nobody looked up your husband's ex wife. Nobody needed to look up my husband's ex wife either.
Lisa Barlow
It's like, you know what? You care a lot about John Barlow. You care a lot about John Barlow.
Ronnie
Well, I care because you talk about my husband non stop. I mean, non stop. So I'm gonna bring up John Barlow, then the truce is over then.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, but I don't talk about your husband. You know what? But I can start. I can star. You know what? Let's talk about Todd Bradley, the dirty old man. Todd Bradley, the dirty, dirty old man. Todd Bradley. Let's talk about it. His penis is under his fupa and everybody knows it.
Heather
How many times do I have to tell you to stop talking about my husband?
Andy Cohen
This is the clip. So then we come back to President.
Heather
And Bronwyn's like, you know, you've continued after our truth to speak about my husband. And you're saying it right now. You're doing it right now, Lisa.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, because he's a dirty old man, so whatever.
Heather
Okay? You can laugh all you want.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, I'm laughing. It's hilarious. Yeah, I am.
Heather
Okay, do not talk shit about Todd, okay? We are in a wonderful, wonderful relationship.
Andy Cohen
That next episode, I'm going to reveal that we are separated. Yes.
Lisa Barlow
Yes.
Ronnie
I love Todd so much. Andy, can we roll that.
Mary
That FUPA clip again? That would be great.
Ronnie
I want to stand up for Todd again. I just love him so much.
Mary
O laugh, Lisa.
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, well, hold on.
Heather
Ha.
Lisa Barlow
I laughed.
Mary
Okay, well, you can do it again.
Heather
Ha.
Mary
God damn it, Lisa.
Ronnie
Stop laughing.
Mary
We had the truce.
Andy Cohen
Well, I did think that you guys had a truce. You guys still doing your truce at all?
Ronnie
Well, yeah, but I. I've abided by the truth. But Lisa continues to break the truce at every turn. She breaks the truth, Andy. She breaks the truth.
Andy Cohen
That's a beautiful.
Mary
It's a true speech. It's a true speech.
Ronnie
It's a true speech.
Andy Cohen
That speech. Speech.
Lisa Barlow
Okay, let's get to the facts.
Mary
What facts?
Lisa Barlow
How. How? How have I broken the truth? I'm talking now. I'm talking. When you're ready to listen.
Ronnie
Well, I'm talking, too.
Mary
How have I broken the truth?
Ronnie
What have I said about your husband or your children? What have I said?
Andy Cohen
You won't let me talk. Talk, Meredith.
Whitney
I'm sorry.
Andy Cohen
You won't let me talk.
Whitney
Aches.
Heather
Ta.
Whitney
Achies. Achies.
Andy Cohen
Ta. Ta.
Heather
Ta. Okay, you do the first part of the word.
Andy Cohen
I'll do the second part.
Whitney
King salad.
Andy Cohen
Okay, What I was trying to say was.
Mary
Talk French lot.
Andy Cohen
Meredith. Thanks a lot. We had a truce, okay?
Heather
And since that truce, the only thing.
Andy Cohen
I said was to Britney, and I was relating to her on something about Bronwyn's behavior. And just like, after our truce, you know, do you remember the truth? Anyone remember the truth?
Heather
No.
Ronnie
I was just doing the second.
Mary
Half of your worms.
Andy Cohen
Sounds like a snake. It sounds like a snake.
Heather
Is that Heather sound snakey?
Mary
Am I doing this right?
Whitney
I'm gonna get it at some point. We're gonna tag team. We're just gonna tag team at some point.
Andy Cohen
Okay?
Heather
Snake.
Andy Cohen
No. Okay, you do. Okay.
Whitney
Sn X cube. X cube.
Heather
Snap.
Whitney
The califragilistic Expedilidocious subjunction. Dismissed. Case dismissed.
Heather
Okay.
Andy Cohen
Okay. This has been entertaining to watch. YouTube, but, like, what about this stuff about Todd?
Lisa Barlow
Um, I really forgot where we were, but you know what? After I saw your husband say he wouldn't piss on my head if my brain was bleed on fire. You know what? That's not very nice. Like, if my brain was on fire, he should piss on my head. Like, does I. Would anybody else's husband like to offer to piss on my head? Because that's what a true gentleman would do. Like, who says that they wouldn't piss on a wife's head?
Andy Cohen
That was so rude.
Lisa Barlow
That was so rude.
Andy Cohen
Excuse me and dad need keep on. Need to get. I need to keep on saying these things.
Ronnie
No, but you hadn't even seen that yet.
Mary
And that was increase that you were saying those things.
Ronnie
You can't use that as an excuse.
Lisa Barlow
Well, I said, your husband's a dirty old man. You know, like, out d d. You know what? Gat dick sucker went viral. It's not my fault. I went viral. I'm sorry. You know what? You should sue Tik Tok, because they love me there.
Heather
You know what? It's your fault. When you look at me in the eye and you say, I don't want to speak about my husband or my children.
Andy Cohen
And I agree. And then.
Heather
And you say, great, me too. Continue to parade yourself out here with the wrong. Like, as the wrong victim when you're the one doing this to my husband. Husband. Okay.
Andy Cohen
Yeah, okay.
Whitney
And what is wrong with sucking your husband's dick?
Mary
And Brahm was like, not a thing.
Ronnie
Not a thing. Couldn't do it. But it's not a thing.
Heather
Not pleasant.
Andy Cohen
Nothing.
Heather
It's not wrong. It's not wrong. It's just not.
Andy Cohen
It's just. It's just gross.
Ronnie
I mean, Auntie, if you could imagine sucking the dick of the person that's always mad at Dennis the Menace. I mean, sure, you know. You know, some people are into that, some people aren't. There's nothing wrong with it. That's for sure. Walter Matthow needs to get his dick sucked, too. Occasionally.
Mary
Do I do it?
Ronnie
You know, Occasionally. Occasionally.
Mary
But don't. Wouldn't suggest it.
Ronnie
Wouldn't suggest it. Can we roll a FUPA clip?
Andy Cohen
My response was to the fact that she said, I don't work. And I said, well, I do work. And she said, well, you should get a job and pay those bills. Like, because I, like, work very hard. I work so hard. Opening lounges. Like, do you know there are children in this country who don't have access to lounges? It is my mission to open up a lounge in every. Every single town and community.
Lisa Barlow
That's what I'm trying to get like poor children American Express chart cards. So they're like Aladdin lounges. And that's. You know what? That's a job, Andy. And it's a job for the people.
Andy Cohen
Leave no child behind. From a lounge. That's what I say.
Lisa Barlow
Lounge.
Heather
Yeah.
Andy Cohen
I want to make sure that they have access to really overcooked bad acts every single morning for free.
Ronnie
Free?
Mary
Yeah, I want to make sure.
Ronnie
You know what, Andy? There's nothing funny about this. The only thing funny is that you and I are equal in this. Cuz we're not equal. And I've done nothing to you in this regard. I've stayed the away from you.
Lisa Barlow
She goes exactly that part. You know what? I've stayed the away from you too. You know, but those videos weren't me talking to you. They were talking to me. People at Bravo Con. So maybe you should stop stalking me, you know?
Heather
And I told you up below deck that I was like done with you and I meant it. And you don't like you talk about my husband at BravoCon. Imagine being at BravoCon where people love you and want to talk to you and you want to talk about my husband's dick. Like, get a fucking life, you know?
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, but you know what? Go ahead, Ted.
Andy Cohen
Some people wanted to hear.
Lisa Barlow
That's what people wanted to hear. They came up to me, to Bravacon and asked me about it. Because your husband was threatening to piss on my head if it was on fire. Okay? That's why. And you know what? In the galley, you cried and you said, I'm fucking sorry.
Mary
And you accepted my apology and we held hands.
Ronnie
Remember that?
Lisa Barlow
Therefore, footage of it somewhere.
Mary
Show the footage. I look so good in that footage.
Andy Cohen
Show it here. Here's the footage that it sounds like you think that the footage is gonna be like, I am so sorry. I don't know how we got to this place and I don't want to be in this place. I don't know what happens, but I love you. And I feel like maybe I lash out because I love you so much and it's my trauma and I have to deal with it, but I love you more than anything. And instead it's like, hey, I'm really sorry about that before. Okay, talk to you later.
Ronnie
Overall, I think Lisa's in the wrong. This I have to say, but God damn it, I don't care. Sorry. So Bronwyn's like, yeah, but I accepted your apology. And then you go back and do it again. Yep. But bronwyn, you also do. And that's why I can't care because Bronwyn is exactly the same. She's like, I won't come for you anymore. Immediately comes for you after, you know. Okay, guys, we need the truce to not talk about anybody's marriage. Oh, guys, by the way, so Seth was probably cheating in New York on Meredith, you know, like, come on now.
Andy Cohen
Yeah.
Ronnie
And he's like, all right, two rights.
Andy Cohen
Don'T make a wrong situation because Lisa does break the truce a lot.
Ronnie
And.
Andy Cohen
And so then this is how we.
Heather
This is how we get into problems.
Andy Cohen
On the Housewives in the world because Lisa. Lisa breaks the truce. Then Bronwyn gets revenge by doing something in return. It's like, no, just don't do that. Just.
Ronnie
Yeah, like keep.
Heather
Keep your.
Andy Cohen
Keep your high grounds that we can use it at the reunion.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Mary
Hello there.
Ronnie
This is a two part recap. Okay?
Mary
This the end of part one.
Ronnie
So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.
Andy Cohen
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Ronnie
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Mary
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Heather
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Andy Cohen
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Ronnie
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Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: January 14, 2026
Ben and Ronnie dive deep into the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) Season 6 Reunion Part 1, unleashing their signature Bravo-loving, eviscerating, and playful banter. This recap is packed with witty takedowns of fashion choices, fiery cast confrontations, and classic Housewives circular logic about “risky friends” and never-ending feuds. The hosts bring in their own “reunion-level” energy, riffing on everything from reunion couture to gastrointestinal rumors and accusations about lawsuits, marriages, and plastic surgery.
Notable Quotes:
On Housewives as world diplomats:
Andy: “Any geopolitical crisis would be solved by getting the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City in there…” [05:29]
On reunion looks:
Ronnie: “She looks like a piece of furniture…make sure the furniture’s covered and someone threw a green blanket over a dresser.” [07:13]
Ben: "I’m in 1962...these sheer things hanging off women’s shoulders." [07:30]
On ‘Risky Friend’:
Heather: “I think she plays with really high stakes, and she’s gonna fight to the death.” [23:18]
Ben: “What is a risky friend? Like…are they going to take you down?” [24:00]
On repeated Housewives patterns:
Ronnie: “Whitney arguing is like pissing into a waterfall.” [21:59]
On the truce cycle:
Heather: “Lisa continues to break the truce at every turn. She breaks the truth, Andy. She breaks the truth.” [57:16]
The recap is hilarious, fast-paced, and savage—just like the podcast and the show itself. Ben and Ronnie’s irreverence and affection for the Housewives’ drama keeps things entertaining, even as they cut through the circular arguments and repeated accusations that make a “reunion part one” both maddening and delicious. The episode closes with no true resolutions—except that truces never last, insults fly faster than lawsuits, and in the end, everyone’s a risky friend on Bravo.
Stay tuned for Part 2!