#3167 RHOBH S15E05 Part Two: Vapid Vortex

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens, Ep. 3167 – RHOBH S15E05 Part Two: "Vapid Vortex"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: January 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this energetic and hilariously biting recap, Ben and Ronnie dive into the second half of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" Season 15, Episode 5—an episode they dub the "Vapid Vortex." The hosts revel in the absurdities of the Housewives’ Sedona trip, skewering everything from slow-cooked (and never eaten) dinners, assistant drama, and shopping sprees for overpriced turquoise, to petty interpersonal squabbles. With their trademark sarcasm and affection for just how ridiculous Bravo can get, Ben and Ronnie examine why, even with low-stakes plotlines, the RHOBH women remain compelling (and frustrating) TV.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Chicken-Centric Chaos: The Never-Ending Meal

• Cooking as a Housewife Event

  • The hosts gleefully mock how "going to a grocery store" is an amusement park-level thrill for the Housewives, who clearly never cook for themselves. (02:04)
  • Ronnie: "They've basically gone to Great Adventure, Six Flags… they don't go to grocery stores… here we have Erica in the basket and Jennifer pushing her along. It's a wonderland." (02:41)

• Pasta Primavera and the Sedona Vortex

  • The group’s dinner is perpetually delayed as Sutton, supposedly on "chicken duty," is missing for hours, causing exasperation.
  • Ben: "If you are on chicken duty you should be one of the first people in that kitchen… I'm a Sutton fan, but I am not a fan of being the last one there to do the chicken work." (08:53)
  • Repeatedly, the hosts riff on the image of cast members "pounding the chicken" while lamenting what grotesqueries must be happening to their food—who’s doing the pounding, Sutton or Rachel, becomes a psychodrama of its own. (06:05, 09:17)
  • Quote: "In both vortexes, there is chicken being pounded. That's the multiverse I want to live in." (paraphrased from 09:40)

• Memorable Moment: It is 12:48 AM by the time the women finally eat – and the meal is still anticlimactic.

  • Ben: "This is late even for me – and I've definitely had dinners at 10:45 or 11, but 12:48 for pasta and chicken is wild." (25:15)

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2. Sutton vs. The Assistant: The Avi Saga

• Instigation and ‘Brutal Honesty’ as Sport

  • Amanda brings up gossip from Sutton's former assistant Avi ("Your assistant's been talking about you!") under the guise of concern, but the hosts see right through it.
  • Ronnie: "A friend would take you, pull you aside, and be like, listen, this is what I heard. Not wait, not go to Kyle first and then go to everybody else." (18:05)
  • Sutton is outwardly unbothered: "I fly over the burned bridge in a helicopter." (17:20)
  • The rest of the group prods Sutton about the situation, and Ben points out Kyle’s hypocrisy: while Kyle polices her own private life fiercely, she’s happy to poke at Sutton’s.
    • "Kyle, who wouldn’t even let people mention Morgan Wade, is now the chief instigator about Avi. It’s so Kyle Richards." (16:32)

• Sutton’s Emotional State & Group Dynamics

  • Sutton claims indifference—repeating "I do not care, I do not care"—while the group (and the hosts) suspect otherwise.
  • Ronnie: "You weren't agitated about the thing with your assistant who hates you? Like seriously hates you, hates you?… 'No, I'm not mad about it.'" (44:50)
  • This tension leads to Sutton being on the verge of tears, while Amanda pushes, "Do you cry often?" to which the hosts cringe.

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3. Housewives Behave Badly (and Hilariously)

• Amanda’s Overbearing Bragging and Tech Startups

  • Amanda continually brags about her new website, business calls, sleep scores, and Chanel Birkenstocks.
    • Ben: "She’s basically taking business calls in people’s faces – we need the Housewives of New York to eviscerate her." (37:05)
    • Ronnie: "No one should be allowed on a cast of Housewives that talks about sleep scores. I don’t want to hear about it." (32:35)

• Shopping for Turquoise and Cowboy Hats

  • The group goes shopping in Sedona for turquoise and hats. The hosts, as always, call out the Housewives for getting majorly ripped off.
    • Ronnie: "Kyle pays a few thousand dollars for turquoise earrings… as someone from the Southwest, you’re overpaying!" (39:20)

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4. Petty Fights, Group Therapy, and Emotional ‘Growth’

• Sutton’s Mom Gives Her Fruitcake Advice

  • Sutton reflects on her relationship with her mother, Reba, and the advice she receives about anger and moving on from her divorce.
    • Quote: "My mom gave me a very good piece of advice. She said, 'You bring fruitcake home, you leave it open on a table, and then you wonder why there are flies.' And that really hit home." (22:16)

• Group Encouragement or More Shade?

  • Erica assures Amanda, "It’ll hurt less and less as the days go by. You’ll just sort of see [Sutton] as a nattering old woman, and you’ll have fun with it." (31:08)

• Mini-Meltdowns and Group Dynamics

  • Sutton has a near-breakdown at the airport restaurant, defending her lateness and disconnect from the assistant drama.
    • Ronnie: "Hey, Missy is not it—that’s just a little amuse-bouche. That’s saying 'I could be mad at you,' but I’m not just there yet." (44:04)
  • Jennifer, thought to be one of Sutton's closest friends, vents to Kyle about Sutton's fragility, hinting at a crack in their alliance.
  • Ben, gleeful at potential drama: "I wonder if this teeny, tiny crack can be exposed into a giant rift by me going and talking to everybody about it… Maybe there are secret resentments that if brought to each other's faces, would only just grow and grow and grow." (50:08)

• Overall Trip Dread:

  • The hosts repeatedly roast the Sedona trip as “one of the worst Beverly Hills has ever taken,” thanks to the lack of actual drama, bad food logistics, and missed opportunities for the kind of explosive fights fans expect. (43:18, 51:31)
  • Ronnie: "Rachel: 'Thank you for this trip, except for the part where we had no fun whatsoever.'"

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

Sutton’s Stoicism/Delusion:

• "If the bridge is burned, I fly over it in a helicopter." – Sutton (17:20)
• "Here’s what I learned. You can’t trust the gay ones either. I learned things." – Sutton (23:45)

Amanda's Try-Hard Vibe:

• "Guys, great news. Our payment to WIX went through. The site’s up. Celebrate my wins." – Ronnie as Amanda (29:22)

On the Trip Itself:

• "This is one of the worst trips Beverly Hills has ever taken… it’s sad." – Ronnie (43:18)

Hosts’ Commentary Highlights:

• "No one should be allowed on a cast of Housewives that talks about sleep scores." – Ronnie (32:35)
• "Kyle, who wouldn’t even let people mention Morgan Wade, is now the chief instigator about Avi." – Ben (16:32)
• "[Amanda is] basically taking business calls in people’s faces— we need the Housewives of New York to eviscerate her." – Ben (37:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chicken-gate & Dinner Fiasco: 02:04 – 12:24, 25:15, 26:01
• Amanda Confronts Sutton About Avi: 13:04 – 20:28, continuing at 44:50
• Sutton’s Mom and Emotional Reflections: 21:02 – 23:45
• Late-Night Dinner Finally Served: 25:15, 26:12
• Amanda’s Bragathon & Tech Moments: 28:30, 29:19, 32:35, 37:05
• Shopping Spree & Sedona Snark: 38:12 – 42:49
• Airport Restaurant Showdown & Group Tension: 42:49 – 51:31

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Final Thoughts

Despite mocking the RHOBH trip for its lack of action, Ben and Ronnie revel in the minutiae: petty gripes, passive-aggressive jabs, and would-be “growth” moments. For true Housewives fans and anyone who loves Bravo recaps dripping with wit and affection, this episode delivers.

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Note:

• This summary skips advertisements, promos, and sponsorship mentions as per instruction.
• All quotes reflect the casual, snarky style of the hosts.
• Timestamps are approximated and formatted as MM:SS for quick navigation.

Transcript

[A]

Hey, it's Raj and Noah. And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.

[B]

Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.

[A]

But who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

And for the first time ever, we're going to have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're going to be right here to help you do them better.

[C]

Love y'.

[D]

All. Watch what happens. Watch what cr. What happens when there's so much happens.

[C]

Watch what happens.

[D]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

[C]

So then, in a confessional, Kyle says that Sutton has been acting super mysterious about ending things with Avi. And now Kyle's even more curious. Wow, Kyle, I wonder why people ask about your sexuality all the time. I wish they'd stop.

[D]

Oh, yeah, Kyle, very happy to pry into other people's lives. Yeah. So Amanda's like, do I say something? And Kyle's like, well, if he's just. If he's saying that, who knows what he's saying to other people, right? Man's like, yeah, then she should probably know.

[C]

I should probably, like, tell her about this in front of the entire cast and make her as uncomfortable as possible. Sounds good. Primavera of Era coming up.

[D]

That sounds fun. So in the kitchen, people are filtering in and Rachel is like, should we be concerned that it's, like, late and, like, no one's here and, like, we're all cooking? Like, this is crazy. I've actually never seen a stove top being used before. I didn't even know there was fire in them. Like, this is crazy. I thought the stove was just, like, more surface. Just in a different shape. Wow. Wow.

[E]

Well, you know, we got back from the highway, we went to this really cool grocery store called Clark's. An amazing trip so far. I've been taken outside into a grocery store, so sun's really killing it with this one.

[D]

And then the hallowed tradition on Beverly Hills is making these women go into a grocery store, which is basically like an amusement park for them. They've basically gone to, like, Great Adventure, Six Flags, you know, Knott's Berry Farm. They've never. They don't go to grocery stores. They're always so fascinated. And here we have, like, Erica in the basket and Jennifer being like. She pushes her along as if like the novelty of a shopping basket and all the food on shelves. Whoa. It's a wonderland.

[C]

She almost runs into a lady in the store.

[E]

She goes, oh, a local person. Sorry, local person.

[F]

They're used to these kind of high intensity adrenaline thrills, but perhaps it's new.

[E]

Sorry, local person. We are celebrities.

[D]

They're like, they can't believe there's some sort of thing called a quote unquote cart that's so big enough that a human can be put inside and be pushed around. It's like a roller coaster, but you do it yourself.

[C]

So now it's 10pm and Rachel and Kathy are still cooking.

[D]

How long does it take to make pasta primavera?

[C]

So Dre's like, sorry, it was late.

[E]

I was on my veranda.

[C]

And they're like, oh, wow. Rachel goes, I would have done that if I had a veranda. I don't have one. So I've been pounding chicken instead. I might as well be pounding my soul. I'm dead, literally.

[D]

Does anyone. Does anyone know if this chicken moisturized before we cooked it? I just really want to know. It's really important to me.

[C]

Now it's 1049. Oh, my God. So Kyle comes and said, guys, it's almost 11 o'.

[F]

Clock.

[E]

It smells so good. We need a cheese plate to save off some of the hunger. I'm having some monster cheese on a chocolate donut right now. Anybody? Anybody know? Okay, Future selves.

[D]

Sounds fucking delicious to me, honestly.

[E]

So Erica's like, we're all watching our calories. There's no swimming pools in Sedona. So.

[F]

Erica's like, where's the hostess of this fucking place?

[D]

Amanda goes, well, I'm just like. I'm, like, so confused by the timing of this group. And I. I say this as someone who has a Chanel watch because, like, when am I supposed to actually be Somewhere, like, where is Sutton? She said she's gonna be cooking the kit the chicken like it was. If there was an option not to come, I would have liked to have known. I could have gone to bed early. So the issue here really is that they're all cooking very slowly. And pasta primavera. I've actually never made pasta primavera, but from what I know about it, it's, like, one of the easier pastas to make. It's just, like, vegetables tossed with pasta. And Sutton, though, is making the main course. She's making the chicken, and they all suds, nowhere to be found. And chicken doesn't just get made in three seconds, so they're all waiting around because none of them actually know how to cook chicken. I think.

[C]

I think we see Rachel pounding the chicken. Yeah, I think Rachel took over the chicken a long time ago. She's like, I'll just make the chick. I'm going to do it how Kai. Kai likes that.

[D]

Yeah, Moisturize and flat. Yeah.

[C]

Kai. Kai, look at me. I'm making a chicken. I'm pounding it. Is this how your dad does it? God, your dad hates you. What's your dad trying to give you? Salmonella? I'm doing it better. Tell your dad. Tell your dad's girlfriend I make the best chicken.

[D]

I'm, like, so sad that I mentally, somehow did not see Rachel pounding the chicken, because that's a visual that I think is very special. I cannot imagine Rachel ever picking up anything like a mallet and using it.

[C]

Yeah, she was pounding a chicken, and her hair was hanging all down over the chicken. She's like, guys, I'm pounding chicken. I just kept thinking, God, there's so much. There's going to be, like, so much hair in that chicken. Hairy chicken.

[D]

1105, Sutton arrives.

[C]

Amanda's not wrong. Totally. And it's not out of the ordinary to get annoyed that people are late to things on trips, but this is a house thing, and it's not that. And no one eats. And also, Amanda, you're so new. Like, just be quiet. Just be grateful to be here. You know what I mean? Why don't you cook some chicken?

[D]

How about you manifest, Sutton?

[C]

Okay, yeah, you can manifest millions of dollars, but you can't call doordash.

[D]

Is there also a way to manifest you going up to Sutton's door and knocking on and saying, hey, when are you going to come down to cook the chicken? Or should we take that over because we're all starting to cook right now? Like, there's ways to handle this.

[C]

That's true, but none of them do. They're all afraid of Sutton right now because everyone knows they're slowly poking at Sutton and they're going to make her explode. And Sutton's obviously going through something crazy, and so they're just. The rest of the. Like, Kyle's timing it, you know, she's like, uh, oh, here we go. Can't wait. But Amanda is just like, I'm supposed to have a scene with Sutton, and now I have to sit here and wait for her. Now I'm adding chicken to my list of grievances with Sutton. So now it's 11:05. Sutton finally comes down, and they're like, where have you been? And she's like, I'm just slow. Guys, it's me, Sutton. Easy breezy, Sutton Brown.

[E]

Okay?

[C]

When we all know that Sutton has been up on her phone and her computer calling every lawyer that she knows to go after Avi. Like, get that NDA. Can we get a post birth NDA?

[E]

Get it now.

[C]

Get it now.

[D]

I feel like she's been sitting up in a room looking herself in the mirror with curlers in her hair and like a glass of. Glass of Tito's, just staring at herself and drinking it. Or handshaking like, they're not going to get you tonight, son. Come on, you can do this. And you can do this.

[C]

Come home. Putting lipstick on shakily. Yeah, gonna get you, Sutton Brown. Wiping it off. Sutton Brown does not get bothered.

[D]

I will be ready tonight. The power of the vortex is with me.

[E]

Where have you been? And why is that lipstick all over your face?

[C]

This is Sutton Brown. Sutton Brown is calm.

[E]

She is fine. Okay, then.

[D]

Three cup chicken. Three cup chicken sauce. That's one cup. One cup flour, three cup chicken.

[C]

Like.

[F]

Sutton, are you okay?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

After the hike, I just needed a little time to myself so I could re center and enjoy the evening. And frankly, who cares if I'm late? We're on some sort of a time clock here. It's vacation.

[E]

Just me, Sutton.

[C]

Sutton Brown loves lateness now.

[D]

Loves. Ma', am, you better reach into that vortex and pull out a rotisserie chicken very quickly because everyone is hungry and you're on chicken duty. This is. This is not right. If you were on chicken duty, you should be one of the first people in that kitchen, and you should be doing all the things. And I'm actually mad at Sutton about this. Okay? I'm a Sutton fan, but I am not a fan of being the last one there to do the chicken work.

[C]

But here's the thing now Sutton goes and pounds the chicken. So that was the pounding of the chicken. So was it in my head that I saw Rachel. This is the thing that makes me crazy about myself and why I think I need help. Literally. I see the visual in my head of Rachel pounding a chicken with her hair hanging down over it. So where did that come from? Am I just, like, have these shows turned me into. Into a delusional, crazy person? Because I really believe that.

[D]

Well, all of us are delusional and crazy. But I think that what it is is that on the other side of the vortex, in the parallel universe, Rachel is pounding the chicken, but in this universe, Sutton's pounding the chicken. And at this point, the. The vortices have combined, and we can't. We can't tell. Things are coming out of the Matrix, and we're like, it's. We're seeing everything. And. And.

[C]

But in both sides. And both sides.

[E]

Jennifer's like, well, I did take the lid off of the guacamole, so my work here is done.

[D]

There is always someone who does that during a cooking party. Someone always makes that joke like they took the lid off of something.

[F]

My work here is done. That counts as cooking, does it not? I saw a giant bubble bee today. Charm. Charm.

[C]

Yeah, that goes up there in the halls of great ones. Like when someone comes to clear your plate and. And it's empty, and you go, whoa. Really? Like that one. Really hated it. Practically with the plate, huh?

[D]

Hated it.

[C]

I'd like to complain to the chef. Really hated this meal. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial.

[A]

Hey, it's Raj and Noah. And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.

[B]

Because we're still doing a lot of stuff.

[E]

Stuff wrong.

[A]

But who isn't? That's why each week, we're talking about the topics that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.

[B]

We'Ll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right so the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.

[A]

Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

And for the first time ever, we're gonna have full video episodes on YouTube because as long as there are things to get wr, we're going to be right here to help you do them better.

[C]

Love y'. All.

[D]

Anyway. Pizza boxes. Dorit has pizza boxes.

[F]

Just say the word, I'll use them.

[D]

I'll use them for dinner.

[F]

No. As evidence against PK he stacked so many in the refrigerator, none of us could have any other healthful snacks.

[C]

So Kyle's trying to figure out how propane grills work, and that's fine.

[D]

Kyle can't even open up her French door. Who put her in charge of the kerosene? Not the kerosene, the propane. That's ridiculous.

[C]

So she's doing that, and then meanwhile, Kathy's walking around the kitchen with the dish rag stuck to the bottom of her shoe. She's like, who's looking for utensils? And they're looking at each other like, why are we trusting other housewives to feed us? We're all gonna die here.

[D]

So back on the patio, it's time to get back down to the more important business, which is giving an arena for Amanda to brag about something. So Jennifer is looking at at Kyle's.

[F]

Shoes, and she's like, I'm obsessed with a Chanel Birkenstocks. They would get so good with that Chanel purse that you have.

[D]

And Amanda's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Iconic, like, anything. Python with snakeskin. Yeah, I have a lot of those. A lot of Chanel Birkenstocks. Like, so many. Like, sometimes Birkenstock is like, we should just call you the stock because you have our stockpile of broken socks. I just have so many.

[E]

Oh, you have both. You have so many things. Okay. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, Sutton. So anyway, Sutton, now that everyone's gathered around, you know, something odd did happen, and I didn't know if I should tell you, but, like, I talked to Kyle about it. Oh, you talked to Kyle about it. Okay, well, what is it? It's just me sitting around, calm setting, Brown. What is it? Go ahead and you can say anything to me, sister. Well, she encouraged me to tell you. So you had an assistant named Avi. Ari something. Avi. Avi. The exact same thing.

[D]

Yeah, the exact same line. Like, wait, was your assistant's name. Was it Chanel Backpack? No, I'm sorry. That's just what I was wearing earlier today. Okay, anyway, so a good friend of mine was out, and.

[C]

And he says, didn't she say that her friend who was out before was some girl named Alana, but now it's some guy?

[D]

No, the. He is Avi. Avi says, tell Amanda to call me.

[C]

Oh, well, I failed. This is why I never solve mysteries. God, I'm the worst.

[D]

Oh, no, you're not. It's. It's a confusing show with a lot of really exciting things happening all at once, so you're so much overwhelmed.

[C]

There's just so much going on.

[D]

They're pounding a chicken. So she's like, so I obviously did not call him and get the dirt on you. And then apparently, he said, tell Amanda to hire me as her assistant, and that will really piss something off, so. And she's like, well, you should hire him. That wouldn't piss me off at all. I'd be totally fine with it. I am totally fine. I am cool as a cucumber, which I will not slash because I'm on chicken duty.

[C]

Okay, just go ahead and hire him. I mean, at the very least, that would get me off of unemployment duty, so go for it. Amanda's like, well, I mean, like, I have a full team I'm very happy with, but. So I don't want to hire him. Like, but it seemed like he was trying to, like, start something by talking about you, like, stir something up about you. Are you mad now? Kyle's like, yeah. I mean, like, it's weird that we didn't say that. Right, Sutton? Right. Are you. Are you mad, Sutton? Are you mad, Sutton?

[D]

You want to talk about it sudden? You want to share about it sudden? Okay, like. Like, let's ask some more questions about Avi. Okay, everyone? So then Jennifer is saying, well, when.

[F]

I heard that Sutton and Avi had parted ways, I thought it was temporary. And I thought a few weeks later I'd come by and there would be Avi saying, oh, Jennifer, can I make you a drink? And I actually talked to Avi, and he sort of thought that would be the sun temporary thing, too. And he wasn't quite sure when it had. What happened.

[C]

So if he wasn't quite sure what happened, maybe it is what Sutton said, that she just didn't need an assistant anymore. You know, I wonder if it was like, this knockdown, drag out thing, or if she was just like, listen, my kids are all gone, and I'm not going to be getting 300,000 doll a month anymore. So, you know, or will she still. You know what? Someone forget all the questions about Avi. Like, at the end of the day, it's like, Avi was nice and everything, but he's the help. Like, who cares? Like, ask Sutton, like, why she got rid of Avi. Did. Is she Gonna, like, get less than 300 grand a month because I'll feel so bad for her. It's, like, really hard to live on 300 grand a month as it is. But is that alimony or is that alimony plus child support? Like, what's happening?

[D]

What's happening?

[C]

I still borrow $100.

[D]

This will be. The next step will be. Kyle was saying, like, well, maybe she's, like, not getting a lot of money. Maybe she's, like, running out of money. Maybe she can't even afford to live on the main street anymore. Maybe we should get her a box so she can move into it. I don't know, guys. I'm just.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Place is the Cannibals place, open down the street from America.

[D]

Kyle, who won't even last season, wouldn't let people even mention the name Morgan. Wade told them all off camera, you're not allowed to mention her name. And here she is, happy to instigate, prying into the situation with Avi, which Sutton is clearly uncomfortable, comfortable about, and also trying to dig into what PK Is saying. It's just. It's so Kyle Richards.

[C]

Yeah. So Amanda's like, yeah. I mean, like, you think I shouldn't have told you? Because, like, if somebody worked for me was saying that about me, I'd want to know. Okay, well, I'm glad you told me, so thank you. But if you didn't tell me or you did tell me, I wouldn't really care, so. Oh, so the bridge has been burned. Yeah. Bridge has been burned. Okay, well, you know what? It just doesn't really affect me. I don't care about bridges. If the bridge is burned, I fly over it in a helicopter.

[E]

Okay?

[C]

I don't care. I do not care. Avi.

[E]

Who? What?

[C]

Ari. Avi. Audie. I don't know. Aldi.

[D]

It's a good line. It's a good line. She did a good job with that. I'll say. So Amanda's like, it's just an uncomfortable thing to bring up, but, like, a necessary thing to bring up. It was the right thing to do. And all I can do is what I think is right. Like, if it was the right thing to do, you would have said, just so you know, your old assistant's talking shit about you because you talked to my friend, but instead you're like, hey, this is kind of uncomfortable, but your assistant said this about you. Do you want to get mad right now? Like, she didn't say it like a girl. Like, I think, like a girlfriend or just a friend. In general would be like, just so you know, this person was talking shit to you, to my friend. Like that.

[C]

Yeah. A friend would take you, pull you aside first of all and be like, listen, this is what I heard. You should probably know. Not wait, not go to Kyle first and then go to everybody else, and then keep going and going and going and going. It's like she said she doesn't care. And you're like, you don't care? Seriously? Like. Because maybe he was trying to hurt your feelings. I don't know. I mean, I don't know him, but it seemed like he was trying to hurt your feelings. Yeah, I don't care. Really? Because, God, he sure hates you. There's a bumper sticker on his car that said, sutton Strike. Well, it's not even my name anymore. Yeah, well, he hates your guts. When they. When he was ordering a drink, he said, I'll have a Tito's Martini up. If I was like my old boss, I'd have it in the bathtub and drink it all in one go. My right. What a drunk. He said that about you? I do not care. I don't care.

[D]

Don't.

[C]

I don't care. Are you sure? Because he really hates you. I don't care. Like, hates.

[D]

Hits so much.

[C]

Have you ever tried to get a kid to eat Brussels sprouts? That's what his face looked like when he was talking about eight.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Want you dead. Want you dead.

[D]

Have you ever tricked a kid by putting Brussels sprouts in their Chanel backpack? And then they get to school and they're like, oh, my God, there's Brussels sprouts in my Chanel backpack. That's how he works.

[C]

But then they poop out double Cs, and you're like, was it worth it now? Yeah. Anyway, that was the story about my kids. But Avi really hates you.

[D]

So then everyone. The other people join the whole group. Everyone else joins.

[F]

Andrew's like, so, what are we doing?

[D]

And Jennifer, I just made her sound like Tia. But then Jennifer's, like, saying that they're talking about Avi and stuff, and. And Amanda tells the whole situation again. And Boza's like, well, why would Avi want to say that? I don't think that he would. Oh, like, so you don't believe that he said that? So I goes, okay, I gotta tell y', all, I don't like talking about this. I'm uncomfortable talking about all this. Avi and I, we had a friendship, but at the end of the day, you get nothing for Nothing. Which is how I describe his professional attitude. Nothing for nothing. It was professional relationship, and that is it.

[E]

Well, the dynamic between Satin and Avi was very funny. They were like the odd couple. They had a very good relations. Until they didn't. Who knows what happens? I don't know. Nothing good, that's for sure.

[C]

And Sutton's like, well, I think we should talk about sitting at the dinner table. Why don't we talk about that instead of talking about Avi, who I don't care about, because he was an employee, so why don't we do that? Okay. Do you just see Sutton? Like, I'm not gonna yell at these bitches today. They will not get me today, Reba. They will not get me today.

[D]

So now it's, like, after midnight, and Dorit and Sutton are. They're in the kitchen. I don't know if they've even eaten dinner yet. I don't think they have, but they're in the kitchen. And Dorit is like, well, I think.

[F]

What'S important to me in life is it's important to grow, which is something that PK has done quite a bit.

[D]

Over the course of our marriage, Unfortunately. Sutton's eyes. It's like, yeah, I had to shift because I was going in a direction I didn't like. So I talked to my mom, and the moment that I reached out to my mother, I said, this is a terrible direction for me to be going in my life. Why am I even speaking to my mother anymore? So I made a shift, talk to.

[C]

My mom, and I say, can I talk to you? It's a patient. And three goes, ooh, ooh, good for you. Like, it's like, you talk to your mother. You talk to Reba for help. Like, you're helpless, you know? And so Sutton tells us. Yeah, you know, I was talking to my mom about my anger, and she thinks that I'm taking my anger about my divorce out on other people. And so, you know, she said what might help her is to get her a bigger guest house, so I just let her move into the main house. So she's a good therapist. Very good therapist.

[D]

Wow. She really. Wow. Reba really probably had to do some deep digging to come up with that prognosis. Right? Like, I feel like Sutton goes to Starbucks, and it's like, I'd like to order a cold brew, please. They're like, okay. And then when they serve it up, they're like, okay, this is for the woman who's angry about her divorce and projected onto her friends very obviously thank you.

[C]

My mom gave me a very good piece of advice. She said, you bring fruitcake home, you leave it open on a table, and then you wonder why there are flies. And that really hit home. That really hit home.

[F]

Well, it's not been our experience in our household, unfortunately.

[D]

While PK was living there.

[C]

If there were flies, they were in PK's stomach. No one caught flies better than Piggy. You catch more flies with honey. No, you catch more flies with PK with a fruitcake in his stomach.

[D]

That's where you catch up.

[F]

One thing I'll say about pk, we.

[D]

Never had a cleaner kitchen. Those counters were spotless.

[C]

Before we even had a dog. We never had a crumb on the floor.

[F]

409'S got nothing on PK.

[D]

Saliva.

[F]

Just licked it up.

[C]

So she goes, well, certainly Rome was not built in a day, but it was burnt down to the ground in a week. It's always my answer to that room wasn't built in a day. Didn't take long to burn it, though, did it?

[D]

So sudden.

[F]

It's okay.

[D]

You know what? I did it to myself, and that's okay. I am stronger and better for. It's all my fault. Well, maybe 5% Avi's fault, but it's all my fault. Okay, 5% Avi. 5% my ex. Okay. Oh, well, you know, maybe 25. Avi. 25 my ex. You know? Well, let's just say 50 Avi. My ex. Okay. Anyway, this is a great meal, huh?

[C]

Here's what I learned. You can't trust the gay ones either. So I learned things. I learned things. You know, in the past, I was really worried about what people thought of me and what they were saying about me, and it really. It just encompassed my brain. And I would think, oh, gosh, you know, am I pretty enough? Am I smart enough? But now I've just put those thoughts aside, and I focus on what I need to focus on, which is being a good friend and a good person to myself. Ugly, old, ugly on me, who no one wants to sit with at lunch. Did I just say that out loud? I did not say that. I'm calling my mother. I'm calling my mother right now.

[D]

You know, it is such a blessing because I spent so much time in the past being worried what other people thought of me. But now I've been accepted into this group, so I don't have to worry what other people think about me. Even though by me being happy that I'm in this group, it implicitly says, I'm worried about what people think about me. Anyway.

[E]

I think that there's a wall starting to come down between me and Satan. And for the first time, it feels genuine.

[C]

Real deep.

[F]

Mr. Gorbachev, please take down this wall between me and Sutton. And if that involves PK crashing through it like the Kool Aid man, so be it.

[C]

Wouldn't be the first time, Mr. Gorbache. Like a wrecking ball, guys, it is now 12.

[E]

You are like a wrecking bull.

[C]

It is 12:48am by the time they get their dinner. 12:48am for pasta and chicken.

[D]

Anyone who's. Anyone who has come over to my place while I cook dinner knows that I sometimes have an issue with time management. That, you know, that is something I work on and I struggle with. But this is late even for me. Like, I've definitely had dinners where I'm like, okay, this will be on the. On the. On the table at like 9:30. And it's literally like 10:45 or 11.

[C]

Yeah, but you serve 10 courses, you're like, okay. And then here's the appetizers, and here's the chicken, here's the pasta, and here's the dessert. And here's the thing. You know, it's like a whole circus of food. So if I have to wait an extra half an hour, it's worth it. It's made up in the caloric, you know, win that I got.

[D]

And I play good music. I play good music while people wait. But the problem is that in this case, they're waiting until 1am to have pasta primavera and probably some unseasoned chicken breasts. Let's be honest.

[C]

They didn't even get to listen to Lilith Fair while they did it.

[D]

The best soundtrack to any cooking experience.

[E]

Hey there.

[D]

Is that the Lilith version of Carly Rae Jepsen?

[C]

No, I just know that Carly Rae is also playing during.

[D]

Yeah, no, I promise.

[C]

I'm doing your dinner. I'm doing your dinner playlist.

[D]

My dinner playlist is actually quite amazing. But there's. I don't put on a lot of Carly Rae Jepsen because, you know, not Dom's favorite singer. And I try to. If I'm playing music in the public spaces, I'm trying to make music that everyone's going to enjoy. That's usually when I'm cooking dinner for myself. I put on a Carly Rae Jepsen playlist. But there'll be some Tina Turner, there'll be some Sade, there'll be some Janet, there'll be some a Mariah. There'll Be a. You know, the greatest hits of the. Of the 80s, 90s and today.

[C]

No commercials.

[F]

Here comes one right now.

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[C]

Love y'. All. So Kathy's like, okay, everybody, this is what you call pot luck. Boes that took 17 hours to make.

[D]

Erica's like, I don't know about the.

[E]

Luck part of it, but I could use some pot.

[C]

So now it's the next day. Nothing happens at dinner. Like, they couldn't even have a dinner fight because it. It was so late. They were like, it. We tried with Amanda. Didn't work. Sutton still hasn't had a breakdown. We'll try tomor and brighter lighting.

[D]

Yeah, seriously. So the next day, and Amanda meets Erica in the kitchen. Amanda's like, you look cute for someone who's not wearing a Chanel backpack. I mean, I love your space buns. Are they still called that? Because I always call them the Chanel space buns. You just don't have that brand on you. Okay, that's fine.

[C]

Yeah. So Amanda's like, oh, my God. My teen just told me our new website is up, so that's kind of exciting for me. Wow. Yeah. And she goes, yeah. By the way, I think Sutton's mad at me, you guys.

[E]

Of course.

[C]

But she came up to me this morning, and she was like, hey, Missy, I heard you were talking about me being late last night. And so we see Sutton confronting Amanda being like, so, Missy, I heard you were complaining last night about me being late. Jennifer heard it. Kyle heard it. Everyone heard it. You mad?

[D]

I'm Sorry, I'm still laughing that Amanda decided to announce that her Webster new website is up.

[C]

Like, she's so.

[D]

Guys, great news. Our payment to WIX went through. The site's up. Up. That's right.

[C]

Signed up.com just got privacy on its domain for another year. Can you believe it, guys? Celebrate my wins. Celebrate my wins.

[D]

We're using this very exclusive platform called WordPress. And we just been told our contract's been renewed, so we see a blast.

[C]

Ipsum. Am I right, guys?

[D]

Now, what the hell is wrong with these producers? We have this amazing scene of Sutton pulling out Missy, which, you know, if you're saying Missy, you're not a happy person. And Sutton's like, so, Missy, I heard you were complaining. You said the line already. And like, why is this being relegated into a flashback when nothing else is happening? Why can't we let. Why can't we, like, enjoy the, like, let the scene breathe of Amanda walk puttering around, getting breakfast and Sutton going, by the way, Missy, you were complaining. I heard you were complaining last night about me being late. Jennifer heard it, Kyle heard it, the cactus heard it. Everyone heard it. Everyone on the other side of the vortex heard it. And you think you're getting someone over me? Well, let me tell you something, Missy. You don't know Sutton Brown. You may think you know Sutton's track, but you do not know something. Like, I want one of those moments. And they just put in a flashback. That's not right.

[C]

Yeah, and Sutton says, excuse me, I don't care. I don't need excuses. We're here in the vortex. So what do you say? It's a moment. Okay? It's a moment. And so Amanda's like, yeah. And then she was like, taking it out on me that I brought up the assistant thing probably, and that, like, hurt my soul a little bit that, you know, like. Cuz she's like, totally taking it out on me. Like, you knew what you were doing and she's not. Trust me, this is nothing for Sutton. And I like when Suttons later. She says, later? Yeah, trust me, you know, when I'm mad, you'd know that was nothing. You got a Missy. That was called charity. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, you got a Missy. Erica's like, well, it'll hurt less and less as the days go by. You'll just sort of see her as a nattering old woman and you'll have fun with it. Enjoy. So then Amanda's like, hey, Rachel, how'd you sleep? Terrible. I got like three hours of sleep. Kathy was like, Walking around upstairs the entire time, I was like, I die, I die. Every time I heard a footstep, I was like, I die, I die, I die, I die, I die, I die.

[C]

You guys. Like, you know what my ideal, my ideal vacation is like sitting by a pool, dressed like a queen bed, A queen size bed. That's what I want to do. Just like cover me in a sheet and throw me under the sun and an umbrella. That's like literally all I want to do.

[D]

Caftan. All day, every day. In fact, I almost. If. If Caius was a girl, I was gonna name her captain, but, oh gosh, the boy. So. So Kai says Caftan.

[C]

Kai. Kai and Calf. Caf. That was my dream. Kai. Kai and Calf. Calf. But unfortunately we got a little, little easy bike rider. What do you call it? E. Bike rider. Yeah, whatever.

[D]

Yeah. When I saw that, that. When I saw that my other son. When I saw that sky had joined a biker gang, I was horrified. There was like eight of those. Him. Those bikes coming down the road. And then I was looking at him through the kaleidoscope. That made me so much happier. Just one of them.

[C]

Just one of them.

[D]

I was like, how is he biking on the road upside down? And I saw he wasn't. It's like that.

[C]

So dangerous. Sky. Sky.

[D]

Oh my God. I take it back. I love that Rachel Z's on this cast because I love, I love making fun of her.

[C]

So back in the kitchen, Amanda's like, oh, my God, you guys, my sleep score today is worse than yesterday. I gotta a 61. Yesterday I had a 69. Shut the fuck up. Why are this person on this cast? No one should be allowed on a cast of housewives that talks about sleep scores. I don't want to hear about it.

[D]

I don't even know what it is. I'm gonna assume I. I connected the dots. It's something with your app. You put your phone on the mattress or something and it's like, how well did you sleep?

[C]

Or you ring? You know, maybe she has one of those tracking rings or whatever.

[D]

Yeah, but like, yeah, no one, no one in this group is going to care about the sleep score score at all.

[C]

And no. And it's just not going to come up on your nouveau ring or whatever. That Bueller got up at 3 in the morning, walked straight up to my head and stared at me until I woke up right in my eyes. You know, it's like, it looks like it's my fault for waking up all the time. Not because my dog needs to shift position Every two hours. And how do I even wake up? Like, he gets up and he. Like, I feel him walk right up to me, and then he walks right up to my face, and he's just like, no. Are you gonna lift the blanket or am I just supposed to find my own comfort? It's three in the morning, bro. You can figure this out by now. You're 14.

[D]

What are you, a Matchbox 20 song? It's 3am Come on. So. So Rachel is like. She's like, yeah, I never, like, track sleep or my mood. I never do that. And then Erica comes in with a sitcom line.

[F]

She goes, I know somebody who did.

[E]

It and had to quit doing it because it was so depressed pressing.

[D]

I was like, I kind of like that. I felt like there should have been like a little bit of a laugh track there on that. That was like a full on 1988 sitcom line. I felt like that's the sort of thing where Dorothy Zbornak would get, like a slow burn. Look, like, Erica, be quiet.

[C]

Yeah, I'm manifesting, right? My really good friend is a life coach, and she said, you know, like, she had me write down, like, if I could manifest, manifest the next man in my life, like, what would it be? And I was like, anyone who can give me a calf cop have.

[D]

White wine, Captain by the pool all day every day with Ka moisturizer. Amanda's like, oh, my God. I made a list for my future ideal husband when I was 13 and I wrote AB CROM model. And then years later, on a date, Eddie was like, did I ever tell you I was the guy who stood outside Abercrombie with my shirt off? I guess what I'm trying to say is I kind of have a hot husband. Do you guys have hot husbands?

[C]

No.

[D]

Oh, that's funny.

[C]

Shut up. Yeah, like, he's every single thing besides one I make him. I mean, I make in a month what he makes in a year. So, like, like, I'm the breadwinner. So he's like, poor, but he's hot, and he's like a toy, you know?

[D]

They're all like, why would anyone want to win bread? That's carbs.

[C]

She's so gross. Like, who's like that about.

[D]

Who says that? Who says that?

[C]

It's like, oh, she's so friend.

[D]

Like, build her brand.

[C]

Is.

[D]

Is. Is she gonna say, like, this is her way of, like, she wants to, like, lead with her wealth so that way more people do her seminars. I don't know. This is. This is actually just. Just Obnoxious. Okay. It's not just annoying the other women, but it is really just probably annoying the rest of the audience too at this point.

[C]

Yeah. So Erica is like, well, I wish.

[E]

I was a breadwinner. Maybe my marriage wouldn't have ended up differently.

[C]

Oh, okay, okay. Eric.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Erica still would have married Thomas. She was the breadwinner. If Erica was really rich, she would have been like, you know what?

[E]

I really need my life. An 80 year old man with his balls dragging on the ground who yells.

[C]

At me to be quiet during dinners.

[F]

Hot fun, fun story. Tom once took off his shirt outside.

[D]

Of Abercrombie, but didn't end so well for him.

[E]

He was put in the mall jail. You know, that's a thing.

[D]

So now they all back in the kitchen. Rachel, FaceTimes with Caius. Hey guys, it's Kaius. Kais is on the phone. He's on the phone, guys. He's just moisturized. Say hi to Ka, guys. Guess.

[C]

K just got his first Botox. We're so proud. So back in the kitchen. Oh no. Now we go to the lobby and everyone's getting the cars. They're going, they're talking about how they want to go shopping. And Erica and Rachel and Amanda ride together. And Amanda's pretending to take business calls the whole time. She's like, hi, I just wanted to make sure that emails were sent because that's super important by the way. Plan a huge party. I want the whole block out we go. Got a domain name privacy put on our website. That would be great. Guys. Did you know that G and H are close together on the keyboard? Let's have a meeting about it. Pie chart. Pie chart.

[D]

Yeah. When I looked at my message previews, I thought I saw something about a website. So I told, I told, I was told my friend Erica and I was like, oh, I think my website is done. But like as it turns out it's not done as the security certificate up there. Okay. Because I couldn't find anything. So I think I dreamed the whole thing. Like maybe my website isn't done. Isn't that crazy? But if it is done on I guess the dream then counts as a manifestation. Isn't that crazy, guys? Wow. This is what we need. The Real Housewives of New York. Because when they did Ultimate Girls Trip with the New York ladies and Kelly, Ben, Simone did the same thing. Taking business calls in their proximity, they all jumped down her throat like, what, you think you're the only one who has business to take care of? How we can cabaret Take the calls inside, girl.

[E]

Don't stand in front of us. We've all got business calls. I don't want to hear your shit. Quite honestly, I'm a knockout on a business trip. Save it for your room. We're trying to relax out here. I don't care. I don't care.

[C]

She is really hateable, the Samantha girl. Like, everybody hates her. And I think that they're trying to like her, but she's just so gross. So now they go shopping in this little shopping village, and Jennifer's like, well.

[E]

When you're shopping in Sedona, there's a very specific thing that you want to buy, and that's usually turquoise and cowboy hats. And there she is.

[C]

Kyle comes out, like, just draped in everything turquoise.

[D]

I know. And guess what, everyone. In case you missed the past seven years of the show, Kyle wants to tell you about her very tremendous and compelling backstory. Since I was a little girl, I've always loved cowboy hats and Native American jewelry and cowboy boots and belts and silver and turquoise. And my mom loved that, too. And, like, I'm obsessed with that stuff. So, like, who could say they bought a beautiful brown suede cowboy hat at a gas station? I got can. I love the shop, and I love hats. Okay, all right. Someone play the Amy Grant song. Hats. What I gotta do for all these hats on my head. Hats. Am I right, guys? Hats. They're so good. Hats. Now and forever.

[C]

Yeah. So they just basically go shopping and spend a shit ton of money on things that are crazy. Like, Kyle pays, like, a few thousand dollars for turquoise earrings, which is nuts. I'm sorry. As someone from the Southwest, you're overpaying. Okay? And Rachel buys a knit cardigan for 20, 20, $100, which is crazy. So it's a lot. It's a ripoff town, I'm telling you.

[D]

So then Jennifer, coffee shop. Oh, sorry.

[C]

Yeah. They go to the coffee. Yeah, let's just get. It's like, we're going on two hours again for this show. Why? Why is this needed? Why? Why do we do this to ourselves?

[D]

Like, Waiting for Godot. When is it gonna happen? The entertainment. So then coffee. We're in a coffee shop, and Rachel and Amanda are at the counter. And Amanda's like, so, question about your matcha. Is your matcha good?

[C]

Good?

[D]

Is it ceremonial grade? Can I have an iced matcha latte? And can you do, like, half almond and half oat milk? And the lady's like, so I have almond and I have whole milk, but, like, no oat milk. And man's like, oh, okay. And so Rachel's like.

[C]

She goes, we're starting over. She goes, we have to start over.

[D]

Now, Rachel, live on the edge. Do almond, which is. That's. That's like. That's like a diss from in. Rachel's like, that's like. That's Rachel being like, stop being such a cut. Fitness about this and do all almond. That doesn't make a difference.

[C]

Live on the edge. She's like, ceremonial matcha. What does that mean? Like, it's blessed. Like, I can't. Okay. Like, I can't. I. I officially can't. Like, this is like, this is what pushes Rachel over the edge with this girl. She's like, I'm officially done with this idiot.

[D]

By the way, ceremonial matcha is a high quality, finely ground green tea powder from Japan made from the youngest, most tender tea leaves. Stone ground for a smooth texture, vibrant color, and complex sweet umami flavor. Traditionally used for Japanese tea ceremonies for pure whisked with water consumption, though some brands market it for lattes, while others note the term laxtric definition, but generally implies premium first harvest quality for delicate sipping over mixing, and is rarely found in Sedona, Arizona.

[C]

Now, I love the demand. It's like, I can't just have matcha. I want baby matcha. Okay? It's like the veal of matcha.

[D]

Get me that ceremonial matcha. I can not. And you. And she will not do the other half. She won't do all almond milk. It has to be almond and oat. And if there's no oat, then, like, we're just not even bothering.

[C]

Can we just settle for any kind of C word? Matcha. Okay, Coming right. Right up. So now inside the van, Bose, Amanda, and Dorit are together, and Bose is taking pictures. And Amanda's like, oh, my God. If you clean your screen and you go cinematic, you might get more detail. I'm just saying that's. That's why. That's why I make the big bucks. I own businesses so I can manifest more detail.

[D]

I was like, no, I like the haze. And, you know, secretly Bose was like, damn it. Damn it, I want to do this, but I'm not gonna let this lady tell me what to do with my pictures. Finger grease it is. So they show up at this place called the Mesa Grill, and it's at the airport, but it's not one of those, like, it doesn't appear to be one of those, like, really chic restaurants that has, like. Like by an airport like this, like, ironic, like, The TWA hotel that's at jfk. It's like, ooh, it's at the airport. But it's actually very trendy because it's like TWA and throwback. It's just an. It's just. It's just an air restaurant at the airport.

[C]

Airport, yeah. And they get there and they're looking around because it's really bright overhead lighting and just kind of like, you know, normal people in, like, you know, Guy Fieri sunglasses eating with their mouths open, and they're looking around like, what the hell? And like, wow, overhead lighting.

[E]

What the fuck is. If Sutton is trying to introduce us to Sutton Brown, I mean, it's hot. We had to cook. We're eating at the airport. Let's go back to Sutton's track.

[C]

That was much more glamorous. Glamorous.

[E]

She was a. But she was a glamorous.

[D]

Yeah, seriously. So Sutton's like, well, the reason we are eating here is because the airport has the most beautiful views. And a lot of people like restaurants at airports.

[C]

And the producers, like, no, they don't.

[D]

Who? Yeah, flight attendants. Look, I figure if we're close to the airport, we can just sort of fantasize about getting on a plane and leaving this wretched place.

[C]

And we see the view. It's the same view that's everywhere in Sedona. But now this one has jet fuel coming into your face. Like, this is the worst trip. This is the worst. This is one of the worst trips Beverly Hills has ever taken. It's sad. So Amanda's being quiet and pouty. So Kyle asks her what's wrong. And then the ladies do a cheers. And Amanda's like, oh, by the way, hey, Sutton, I feel like you were mad at me this morning, like, with the whole hey, missy thing. And she goes, oh, now you look. You'll know when I'm mad at you. You'll know. Okay? You'll know.

[D]

Yeah, hey, missy is not it. That's just kind of like a little amused boosh. That's saying, I could be mad at you, and I'm. I'm not just there yet. That's kind of like putting the key in the ignition, but you haven't pressed the gas just yet.

[C]

Yeah, but like, hey, Missy, I heard you were talking about me is a bit of a strong statement. You were talking about her, so what's your problem? And she goes, yeah, but that's not mad. That is. Is agitated. That's just agitated.

[D]

So Kathy's like, what happened? It's like, well, I guess that last night I was late to cook the chicken, and Amanda's like, well, and a lot of people were late, but it was just like, what time is it? Who's cooking what? Just like.

[F]

But was specific to me.

[D]

She's. Well, I mean, it's the main dish. But it wasn't just you. But it was the main dish.

[C]

Yeah, it wasn't the main dish. How dare you. It was pasta prima fair night. Catherine, Are you gonna take this? Are you gonna take this?

[D]

Yeah, but it's. That's the protein. It's like, oh, okay. Well, this seems rather trat and juvenile to me that we're talking about me being on time. I don't know. That's just me.

[C]

So you weren't agitated about the thing with your assistant who hates you? Who told my friend he hates you like he hates you hates you hates you. Like, seriously hates you. She goes, no, I'm not mad about it.

[E]

America's like, I don't want to hear about Avi. We're already at the airport. How much worse can it get?

[F]

Geez.

[E]

You want to talk about my cleaning lady? She didn't take out the lint.

[D]

Well, to me, it just felt like we were good and everyone was happy, and we were dealing with the chicken and the grill and everything, but I felt like when you. When I brought up your assistant, it just felt like a different energy when I brought up someone from your past that you may have had issues with. It's just weird how you weren't happy when I did that. I don't know.

[C]

Well, to hear that, it was sort of jarring. Was it jaunting? Jarring? Well, was it terrible because he hates you? Like, it Was it. Was it. Did it rip your soul apart? Like, that guy really, really hates you?

[D]

Sutton tells us. I don't think Amanda is stupid. She knows exactly what she is doing. And don't use me to get attention, Messi.

[C]

Now, look, I don't know the facts, and I'm not really interested in learning the facts. Well, yeah, he shouldn't have done that. Okay, first of all, because to me, if he's doing that to yo, he's going to do it to the next person. Not talking about it.

[F]

Rachel.

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Rachel's like, okay, okay, noted. Geez. Noted.

[D]

That's it. And I am not talking about it again. You may talk amongst yourselves. Although I will get mad about you if I find out you're talking about me. But I'm telling you, talk about it amongst yourselves, but don't let me find out and do not include me in conversations about him. Is that clear? So they all look back like, whoa, crazy. And then Kyle. Kyle, of all people. Kyle goes, okay, like she tells us, we heard you loud and clear, Sutton Strack. As if Kyle did not have the same monologue to all the women about Morgan Wade before last season.

[C]

Yeah, but Sutton really is something else, man. They get under Sutton's skin, and she just can't keep it in. It's so funny. She's trying so hard to be like, look at me. I'm a new person. I don't drink vodka until past 11:00am I mean, I'm just basically clean. I don't have any problems with anybody. I'm changing my last name. Everybody likes me now. I'm not insecure. And it's like, two seconds, I later, don't question me again. So he's just one of the many people that I've lost, and I need to focus on the future.

[E]

Sutton, look, all right, look, everybody here is in a better place with you than we've ever been. Don't let this drag you into a bad place. You know what I mean? Because the intention was, like. It wasn't bad. It just comes across as gossipy, that's all. Who care? No one gives a. All right, so no one cares.

[D]

And Erica says, rightly so, that Amanda was not bringing up this information to be like, hey, heads up. She was bringing it up to be like, I know something about you. Just so you know, I know things. So then Kyle goes up to Sutton to pretend to console her. She goes, are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay? She's like, do I look okay? No. It's kind of funny, actually. Do you mind if I laugh? Please do not laugh in my face. Okay? Just don't do it. And then Jennifer's says three words.

[F]

She's like, oh, it just looks so.

[D]

Please stop, Jennifer. Please stop. Whatever you're gonna say, just stop.

[E]

Well, I was actually not going to talk about that. I was going to talk about how no one had swimming pools in Sedona, but it seems like there's nothing. Correct. That I can say right now, so I will not say anything then. Good.

[C]

So she gets up to go to the bathroom, and of course, Kyle smells blood in the water.

[D]

They're about to say, kyle's antenna to is going go up. I think it was Kyle who says, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. And if anyone who's, like, really pissed off at Sudden wants to come with me, you can come with Me. And I definitely won't, like, use your vulnerable state to get information that I'll use against you to widen the rift that you might be having with your friend. Okay. I'll be by the bathrooms, so it's awkward.

[C]

And then Amanda goes, so, Sutton, do you cry often? It's like, Amanda.

[E]

Well, when you. When people snap at you, eventually it affects you. You know, it's like water dripping on a stone. You go, it's just water. But then it continues to run down the stone, but after some time, the water bores a little hole in the stone. That's a stone with a hole in it. A hole created by water.

[D]

So Jennifer is, like, talking with Kyle outside the bathroom.

[F]

She's like, I couldn't even get one syllable out. So I'm just gonna be quite. I was trying to go, and she wouldn't even let me get that far. I could go. And it was just so disappointing.

[D]

Well, I can be like that sometimes, but I'm more like the type to be like, I love you, and, like, this is wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, like, what I'm known for is being just, like, totally even headed and level headed and, like, pretty fair and honest to people.

[E]

Well, I don't like to be snapped out for no reason.

[C]

Well, I literally, I was just gonna say I love you, but. But then she snapped at me.

[E]

Well, we're old friends, so I give her a pass because everybody knows that she's fragile. But I do believe that that's one of the reasons Garcelle left. Because it's always about Sutton and not about anybody else ever. But, you know, it's not all about you, Sutton.

[C]

And Carl's like, oh, I'm shocked how Jennifer is talking about Sutton. I thought this was, like, one of her best friends. This is the best night, right?

[D]

Oh, God, I wonder if. I wonder if somehow the, like, the teeny, tiny crack I'm seeing now can be exposed into a giant rift by me going and talking to everybody about how I think that Jennifer is actually really mad and sudden and that their friendship is, like, not as tight as we all assumed it was. And maybe there are some issues, and maybe they are harboring secret resentments that if we're brought to each other's faces, would only just grow and grow and grow and grow.

[E]

Sutton, you know what, honey? No one expects you to be perfect. I know you're working on yourself, yourself, because we spoke last night, and I feel for you, and I've got your back. Like Truly, truly.

[C]

Sutton.

[E]

And Erica's like, oh, well, don't turn that down, son. Just thank you and run. Thank you and run.

[C]

She goes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[D]

Missy. Missy. She's like, secretly being like, missy, don't you. Don't tell me about me, Dorit. So Rachel's like, thank you for this trip. It was, like, so fun. Except for the part where we had no fun whatsoever. So good. I loved getting my clothes for half a day before I had to FedEx them back to LA. Such a great experience.

[C]

So it's this terrible trip that ends in Sutton, like, having a mini freak out. She goes, you know, I'm just surprised how I've connected with all these women. I mean, finally I'm part of the group. I just don't know if I've ever felt part of the group. I'm just so happy. And everyone's going home. Like, Jesus Christ, Sutton. God, was that.

[D]

Oh, God damn it. I mean, this show is dreadfully boring, but, like, it does. It's so fun.

[C]

It's our longest recap of the week. So there's something to be said.

[D]

Like, there is something to be said. Okay, well, it's fun. We talk through it.

[C]

I still like it. You know, it's not the most exciting season, but they don't all have to be, I guess.

[D]

Yeah, I guess not. I guess not. Well, thanks, everyone, for being here for. You know, I think at the time that we started this recap, we could have flown to Sedona and back, but.

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