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Ron
There's so much that happens.
Ben
Well, hello, it is January 19, 2026. Welcome to Krabby Hour Live. I'm Ron. Ben over there. Hello, Ben.
Ron
Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good.
Ben
How are you doing, baby?
Ron
Well, I, I am. I'm doing great. It's a Monday. It's our first crappy hour in two weeks. I mean, that's how they always are. And I'm just excited. We have a lot of. It's our first and our last one in two weeks streaming.
Ben
First crappy hour in two weeks.
Ron
First one in two weeks. And there's. There's so much to talk about. It's just, it's. It's crazy what's happening out there in the world of Bravo. Oh my God. Is there breaking news right as we start Crappy Hour? Is that really happening?
Ben
Ronnie, Breaking news. Welcome to the Alexia News Network. Welcome. Oh, well, you know, Peter. Lots has been happening out there. We have an announcement. Very sad, unexpected announcement. Kyle and Amanda have broken up. We absolutely, you know, it's not Peter's fault. You know, Peter never did anything for, you know, he's a good boy.
Ron
He's an artist, you know, Peter. Oh, well, you know, Peter is an artist. And so like if he breaks up a marriage, that's just what he does. But like, that's his art. So don't be mad at him. Yeah, I can't. I absolutely can't believe it. I cannot believe that these two broke up this deep into their marriage. I. I can't believe it didn't happen sooner. But we are here. And the. But both of them Released statements. The same statement on their Instagram stories. Shall we? Should we read it? I'm putting it up on the screen.
Ben
Sure.
Ron
Ready? Okay.
Ben
Yeah. You start as one of them, and I'll go as the other one.
Ron
After. Well, after much reflection, man and I have mutually and amicably decided to part ways as a couple.
Ben
We share this with a heavy heart and kindly ask for your grace and support while we focus on our personal growth and healing. Kindly.
Ron
It feels ironic to ask for privacy during this time since I'm, like, such a big DJ and I'm, like, out there, like, killing the game every night. But since we've also always tried to be open and honest about our relationship. But your kindness and respect will go a long way as we try to navigate our next chapter. Amanda Marriage should be fun. Amanda. Not fun.
Ben
Kyle Too fun. Yeah, I. Not. Not a huge shock that they broke up. This has been rumored for a while. There were. Let's see. I read in Dumois. I mean, we've heard these. We've heard these gossip allegations for a little while. Oh, my God. What do I have? Someone wrote Dumois in regards to the Amanda and Kyle situation. She wasn't at the annual family reunion, his DJ show to close to his cousin's surf shop, or his cousin's wedding this year.
Ron
Oh, my God.
Ben
I love. Amanda didn't come to his DJ show close to his cousin's surf shop. She must be out of here. Kyle's close cousin got married a month ago, and she wasn't even with him at that. I don't think she's been at any family gathering since the summer of 2024. Makes me curious if they just put on an act for the summer 2025 filming of Summerhausen.
Ron
You know, she just posted a video, like, a few weeks ago where she's like, she made some joke about how we were sleeping in separate beds. Here's my bed. And then she was in, like, a dollhouse or something. Remember that?
Ben
Yeah, that looked like. Yeah, but.
Ron
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she was making jokes about it like, everything's fine, everything's fine, but now this happens. Do we think they're gonna pick up the cameras again? Do we think this is all just fodder for in the city, which is the spin off that they're going to be launching after Summer House?
Ben
I don't know, but, man, we've been rooting for those two to break up since they first made out in a hot tub in season one. I said, run away from that, man. I can't wait to see what 23 year old he, he gets next, you know, but good for them both. You know, when she said, Kyle, when he said, you want me to support your bikinis, but what about me? I've always wanted to be a dj. And she was like, go ahead. I think that was when she was like, bye, you know, go, go start your 4am career and let's see how long this lasts. So, you know, I think they'd both just be in a happier situation if they could be more themselves. Kyle wants to still be a teenager and Amanda, you know, wants to do whatever Amanda wants to do. Bikinis and going to bed early, you know, which. Minus the bikinis, that's what I like. And the living in New Jersey part. But I love being in bed. And I think that you need to find somebody that loves to be in bed.
Ron
And that's it, 100%. I think actually, if anything that Kyle leaning into his DJ best life has, you know, moved him into his midlife crisis. I mean, he was sort of emerging from his up to midlife crisis to his midlife crisis. He's just sort of always in crisis, but now he is like in that space. And I think, like, I think her advice to him was good, you know, like, you should follow your passion if you want. Dj, dj. But also know that that's not going to be compatible with what I want because I did not marry a dj. And so if they are leaving now, look that I think they could. This is good. You know, they know what they want. This is to clean each other's hands of each other. And you know, there's no kids. Don't have to worry about doing too much collateral damage. My prediction is that after the, the dust settles, Amanda will be with a new guy within a year and like pregnant in, I'm gonna say like 18 months to two years. I think it's gonna be one of those things where she likes, you know, she knows what she wants even more than ever after having gone through the Kyle, you know, mill and she's going to find someone that's exactly what, what she wants. And then she's going, she's going to have a baby with this person and they're going to go on to like suburban bliss. And Kyle will just do what he does. I think they'll, I think this is actually a really good thing for both of them.
Ben
Kyle will do what he does. Youthful people. So what, what, so what was your, what was your prediction now? How long. Let's write it down. Like we can remember.
Ron
I'm saying Amanda will. Amanda will be on, like, the Lindsay Hubbard route. I think. I think she's going to be with someone very quickly. I think, like, within a year, she'll be deep in a relationship. I'm gonna say 18 months to two years. It's. There's gonna be baby news.
Ben
18 months to two years. I'm gonna say probably five, because I feel like getting out of a relationship with someone like Kyle. She's probably traumatized and exhausted. Even if she hasn't been around for a while, I think she's probably gonna be like, I'm tired. I don't want to date any guys. All guys are stupid. They're all gross. I'm not going to deal with it. Maybe four or five years I'm going to give her. And then maybe once the show's kind of over and she has a normal life, then I think she will. But I think it's going to be a while. What do you think is going to happen with all the money? Like, is there money? Is it just lover boy, you know, money owed or what do you think?
Ron
Money owed, money spent? I have no idea. I. I don't know. That's where it could get thorny is that they do actually have a child, which is lover boy. And the question is, how much does she get? Does she get anything at all? I mean, you know, Kyle has definitely put in a huge amount of, you know, blood, sweat, and tears, but Amanda has too. Amanda's actually had to suffer from that. And so she's, I think, definitely entitled to getting a nice chunk of that lover boy money. The question is, is she just, like, I am so done with the situation. I just want to cut ties and move on, or is she going to want some of that lover boy, lover boy residuals? What do you think?
Ben
Yeah, I don't know. I'm reading comments here. Jennifer says, I think it's her parents that invested in lover boy. And K. Cliff is asking, did they sign a prenup? I don't remember. Wasn't there some drama about a prenup where you got time to bring up. I feel like there was drama about that, but I don't remember.
Ron
There probably was. I think there was some. Some sort of story about that, but people are reminding us that, like, yeah, her parents did invest. So, I mean, at the very least, that money will be coming back because the parents are investors. But what do you mean it's going.
Ben
To be coming back?
Ron
Well, meaning if they're investors, they're Going to get returns. So there still will be some money.
Ben
But aren't they in like a lot of debt, lover boy? Wasn't that the plot that they're losing their asses last year? That's why Kyler is always freaking out at that. At that moment. I don't know.
Ron
I don't know. I don't know what the situation will be. But I'm sure they could also just sell it off. Since sell the end. I guess that his. I guess his goal was to sell it off, right? Make it big enough to sell off.
Ben
Yeah, they were trying to make a company to sell it, but it never became profitable enough to sell according to them on the show. But I mean, I don't know. I know nothing. I know to stay single people. I know to stay single. But you know what? Good for them both going off to live their best lives. Who gets the dogs? Amanda, I'm sure Kyle ain't taking those dogs. He'll never be home to walk the dogs, you know, Wiggy, wiggy. That's what I say. Wiggy, wiggy. So, you know, good for them both going off to live their best lives and giving us a good first season of the city, I'm sure. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
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Ben
So what do you want to talk about next?
Ron
Well, let's see. What do we have? Let me look over here at the. At the big cue, because there's always.
Ben
We've got some good stuff. The.
Ron
There's a lot of stuff.
Ben
The cast for Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls, Road trip, trip, trip, car, car, being in a car, car, whatever it's called, was announced. O. What do you think of the cast? Let's go over it.
Ron
I think the cast is really good. I'm gonna bring up the. The cast right here. I think it's a good cast. I know some people were upset that what there's no. Well, first, the first news that broke a day beforehand was that Nene Leaks is coming back to Bravo on the show, and then they reveal the cast. And she's actually not like a. A main cast character. She's not like in the bus or whatever. And then people were upset because there wasn't like, an original, like, Atlanta cast member on there, but Porsche's on there. I mean, you have, like, you have cast representation. You don't have Dubai or Dallas or D.C. on here, but that's okay. I think that would be ambitious to expect those things to be on, on here. But the cast is Lisa Barlow, Luanda Lessaps, Portia Vicky, Kyle Richards, Teresa Giselle. I think it's a really good cast. And I think also how mad is Heather Gay that she is not on this show? How did that happen?
Ben
I don't know, but I love that Lisa got it over Heather Gay.
Ron
I think that's. I think that's so funny.
Ben
Giselle was probably. I'm not getting on a bus with fucking Heather Gay. She stole my tequila in. In Thailand.
Ron
That's right.
Ben
Which, by the way, was the best thing that Heather Gay ever did. I think in her entire, you know, she gets a lot of credit for her, you know, receipts, proof, timeline, which I really need to hear more in my life. But I think that she gets a lot of credit for that. I think the best thing she ever did was stealing Giselle's Tequil on Thailand. And it became the mystery of the whole thing. And then it just turned out to be Heather the whole time. And she regretted Nothing that will forever be Heather's best thing, I think. But yeah, I think that she's probably miserable about it. And that's really funny to me. Lisa got it after all of this. After trying to shoot Lisa down for so many seasons, Lisa ended up getting it over Heather.
Ron
Why do you think Lisa did get it over? Because, I mean, Bravo has, you know, they, they've often, you know, turned to Heather to, to be the, the center of the show. Even when she's not center snowflake, even when she's not in first chair. Like, people sort of see Heather as, as the queen be of that show. But here's, here's Lisa. What do you think?
Ben
I think Heather sees herself as. Heather's always centering herself on that show. She's always going and starting the fights between everybody and orchestrating everything. But it doesn't mean that everybody thinks of her as the center of that show. You know, maybe the, maybe they were like, Lisa would be funnier around other people because one thing Heather has going against her. I think people are used to her on Salt Lake City, but when she's annoying, she's really annoying on other shows. Like remember when they guested on Below Deck years ago, she seemed cracked out the whole time with Angie Harrington and then she did the girls trip and that. She's like, oh my God, look, I'm with the big dogs. Ditch me and all the big dogs.
Ron
I mean, what about Reality Hot Seat? That's. That, that to me, I almost wonder if Reality Hot Seat was the thing that made the move to Lisa Barlow because Heather was extremely domineering. She was sort of over talking everyone and she was sort of trying to be like super, super funny, but she wasn't actually. Yes anding anyone. And everyone who watched Reality Hot Seat, which was a hot mess, was like, whoa, Heather gay. Like, let some other people share the space. And I almost wonder if production's kind of like, yeah, Heather, like she can do her own show, like Surviving Mormonism, but like, maybe she doesn't translate well on these spin off type things.
Ben
Yeah, it's like a little kid. You know, you have a kid, you love your kid, they're great at home, they're hilarious. But the second you go into a restaurant, everybody wants to murder your child. And I think that that's Heather. So I think this was SM with Lisa because she'll be funny. So just go back to the other. Just some comments on the other thing real quick. K paper says I think there was something about a prenup there was something about a penalty if Kyle cheated. So, yeah, prenup.
Ron
Right.
Ben
And ph balance. Shorty says, I think there was a prenup because Amanda's dad made them get one. But it was also to protect Amanda, so she didn't get settled with lover boy debt if they got divorced. Yeah, that sounds right. Sounds about right to me. Okay, so go ahead, Ben.
Ron
I was gonna say, I also wonder if by putting Lisa on this show, they just may also realize that this is the sort of chemistry that might be really good. Lisa might work with this group, and maybe it's kind of like a test. You know, they put Heather and technically Whitney on. On spin offs, but let's see how Lisa deals with other cast. Cast members of different shows, and let's see if she actually is really good with them, you know, because some people keep on getting the call. I mean, this is like Luanne's, like, millionth spin off at this point. They keep going back to Luan because Luan's actually really good at it. She always offers something really good, and she gels. She gels with the other women, but she's also very much Luann. So maybe they're like, let's. Let's see what else we can get out of Lisa. And here's something really conspiratorial, which is maybe this gives the network some sort of leverage in. In a negotiation with Heather where Heather says, you need me. Like, look how well I do on this show and this show and this show. Now that I can say, well, we had Lisa Barlo on this other show and she did well. So, like, that's very conspiratorial. But, like, hey, why not? Like, it could be a situation where NBC was like, let's. Let's just diversify. You know, let's not put all of our eggs into the. Into the Heather gay basket with our spin offs.
Ben
Well, yeah, because she can't go to them and say, oh, look how well Salt Lake City is doing. Because it's not really, like, the ratings are pretty. It had, like, a series low this past reunion, so it's not doing great. So if she's like, well, I'm the center of the show, then it's like, well, maybe it's time to change that. You know, Another thing we have to look at, if you're looking at evidence, is every person on this cast that has been announced except Giselle and Kyle, I would say, is at the height of delusion. I mean, they're all crazy. Normally on Girls Trip, you have some crazy and then some normies, you know, they'll throw in, like, a Kristen Takeman, you know, some people, to kind of even it out. And this one, it is Vicky Cuckoo bird, freaking crazy. And she's in her Trump era, so God knows what's going to. She's, like, all empowered on that. So you've got her. You've got Luan, obviously. Porsche, who's hilarious. I wouldn't say she's all that delusional, comparatively. Teresa nuts. Kyle's normal and boring, but she deserves it. She's been there forever. Giselle, kind of. Kind of normal. And Lisa Barlo. So there's. It's, like heavy. Heavy on delusion. And, you know.
Ron
Yeah, Lisa. Lisa is playing the role of Ramona, I think. I think that. I think she's filling the Ramona slot of someone who's gonna be, like, delusional, might get loud, might. Might irk people. And Heather would be a little too, like, hat. Like she'd be, like, trying to be funny. And that's actually gonna be. Portia's role, I think is going to be.
Ben
Or.
Ron
Or Giselle. Giselle is more of the comedian. And I think that Heather will. It'll be too Try hard. And they need kind of a Ramona there. Something, obviously, that we just omitted. I can't believe we did. And I feel like we're. Part of the problem now is there's no Miami on here. And, you know, I think Andy or someone said, don't you worry. My. They're definitely going to Miami. But I would have liked to have a Miami cast member on here. I would have liked to have an Alexia or Elisa or. I mean, really, anyone from Miami, I think, would have been. Would have been great on here.
Ben
I think that they are. I think the whole thing about this is they get into an RV or something like that, and then they just travel all over visiting housewives all over the country. So I'm sure they're going to get tons of people. I think there's like 60 people who are going to be on this, so they're going to get a lot of people in there. Yeah, but you're right. Miami's always been kind of the stepchild, you know, the. The red stepchild or whatever, which I shouldn't say. That's why I dyed my hair red.
Ron
I think they should have had Alexia on this cast. I think there's room for an eighth person. I think they could have done it. It would not have taken away from anything. There's plenty of space in the Sprinter Van. So I think that's a miss for Bravo and I think it's a miss for helping get more eyeballs on Miami. They do always kind of like they just. They just need to give Miami more love. It's really one of their elite franchises.
Ben
Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Ron
No, I was gonna say, but I mean, like you said, they're gonna visit like a million housewives and Nene Leaks is gonna be part of it, which is crazy.
Ben
The best part of this all to me. Not only do we get to see Nene again, because I am excited about that, but Bethany's reaction has been hilarious.
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Ben
Listen, are we all sick of seeing Bethany's clips on everything every day? I see Bethany's clips every day posted somewhere. I don't follow her. Don't do any of that. I see them all over and sometimes they get really sick of it, but not on days like this. So Bethany has a video. She's sitting in a really loud restaurant in a sweater and very dark glasses, talking at the top of her lungs in a restaurant. You know, because she's one of those TikTok who does that, who just, like, sits alone in a restaurant's like, all right, here's what I think, you know, so she's doing that and she's like, listen, you know what? I heard the news. I heard the news. You know, Nene's gonna be on girls trip. I just wanna say congratulations. That's great for her. I love that. You know, I really mean it. You know, some. Some people do things for different reasons. You know, some people do things for joy or for desperation or, you know, they have to pay their rent. You know, whatever. Whatever. Whatever the reason may be. I'm not saying what the reason is, but, you know, I've never seen somebody sued a company for doing wrong things and then the company hires that again. You know, Good for them. Good for her. Good for her. Really excited for her. And I just want to point out that, you know, I. I pitched a show to Matt Anderson. Bravo. Look him up. He's a real person. He's not fake. Don't call me a liar. And I pitched me and Nini on a road trip. Just me and Nini going around to see People. I'm not saying they stole my idea, but you know what? Enjoy the stolen goods. You know what ownership is. Yeah. Possession is 9/10 of the law or whatever.
Ron
She is.
Ben
So Bethany and so bitter. And Bethany, you're not the only one that pitched that show. They were going to come out with the show starring Nene and Kim Zolciak, where they were on a road trip together. And so stop acting like you came up with some idea. That idea fell through. Huh, Harrison? And, well, Bethany said that. She's like, oh, and I know road trip's not the most original thing. There was a movie about it. You know, there was.
Ron
I mean, I think we've said it on.
Ben
I know that.
Ron
I for sure have said it on this podcast where I said, I think they should do like an Amazing Race kind of thing, but make it all housewives. You know, when. When Bethany says, like, okay, you know what? I pitched an idea. Me and. Me and any leaks, we go on a road trip. And I was like, you know what? They didn't like that idea, but they like the idea of needing leaks on a road trip. I wonder what the difference is. Oh, because you're not part of it, Bethany. So go take care of your face chlamydia or whatever it is that's going on and let us enjoy this thing. I mean, for someone who, like, her reckoning has fully, like, just disintegrated and it's. It's just so sad. It's sad to see Bethany like this just grasping in onto her relevance and she's angry at the thing that left her that she claims sort of, you know, implicitly, and yet doing whatever she can to comment on it. Like, it's.
Ben
I mean, it's hilarious. I love it. But she's got someone in the. Someone in the comments is saying, go back to your face chlamydia back. Bethany. That's so funny.
Ron
She said that. It's not place chlamydia, by the way. She actually issued a statement. She's like, first of all, there's no such thing as face limited. It's not a thing. Okay? So for anyone who's concerned, it's just. It's just a regular.
Ben
You know what? I woke up, I got a bacteria infection on, on, on vacation. Here it is. Look at it up close. Look at it, look at it. Look at my bacteria. Bethany, sometimes it's okay to get off of the TikTok. I don't need to see your face bacteria. Go stop it. No one wait while watching Tick tock.
Ron
You're wasting this energy. Bethany, at this point, just come back to Bravo, okay? Just bury the hatch and come back to Bravo because this is getting exhausting. Either or get off the pot.
Ben
You're either.
Ron
You're either. You're either beyond this life, the reality reckoning, or you are about it. Because guess what? This, like the constant oversharing on Tick Tock is not that different than just going on to Bravo and getting drunk on camera. It's just what you. Where do you want to expose yourself, essentially?
Ben
Yeah. So I loved it. I thought it was super fun. I'm really excited for Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Road trip, whatever the hell they're calling it. I think it's going to be a huge train wreck. And I'm extremely excited for the three hour episodes they're going to put of that because, you know, they are. That's what they do with those girls trip. They're like, here it's an hour and a half, six times.
Ron
It's going to be. It's going to be really good. Now we can splinter off into one of two directions. We can splinter off to talk about Lisa Barlow or we can splinter off to talk about Giselle. Which direction do you want to go in?
Ben
Well, why don't we. Well, you choose. I've. I've been choosing everything. I'll follow you, my love.
Ron
Okay, well, let's just talk about Giselle because that way I can. Because I'm about to share my screen and that way I can not share my screen anymore. But last night on Watch what happens live, Giselle and Quad were on and Quad had, you know, she. She had a little bit of an ax to grind. And she very kindly and sweetly delivered some shade to Giselle. And I'm going to actually just share it and we're gonna watch the clip because first of all, just hearing.
Ben
Okay.
Ron
Hearing the way these two interact is so wonderful. And also I feel like I'm just gonna do it injustice if I try to describe it. You just have to see in here. Sorry, I can't make Andy any larger here. But you'll just have to look and you will see. Okay.
Ben
Oh, so is his mama. I don't. I don't hear anything. Are you playing?
Ron
You don't hear any sound?
Ben
No. Oh, well, that's unfortunate. And I need to hear quad, so.
Ron
Please play me whatever Quad is saying.
Ben
I need to hear it with my own two ears.
Ron
Well, unfortunately, I guess there's a tech issue. It's saying. It's saying that it's playing the audio. But I guess if it's not coming through, it's not coming through. So instead, I will wind up sort of paraphrasing it, which is that quad went on, and she was like, now I have something to say, which is Giselle, you said that we were recycling and reusing and what's that all about? Because last time I checked, our. Our ratings are higher than Potomac in Salt Lake City.
Ben
I'm just watching it.
Ron
I'm just mentioning it. And just. I was like, no, I didn't say that. Robin said that. I never said that.
Ben
That.
Ron
No, no. And there's nothing against you. I'm just saying, why would you say that? Because we are actually all original. So she basically called out Giselle, saying, yeah, our ratings are better than yours, and I don't know why we're getting treated this way. I don't know why you're saying that. And then Giselle said, our show is better.
Ben
Our show has been better for three years running at least, ma'. Am. How dare you? What? So what was she saying? That they were. Robin and Giselle were saying they were recycling cast members or what? By bringing Contessa back or what?
Ron
Well, I. I'm wondering, because then someone, of course, pulled up the original clip, and it was actually Giselle. Robin was like, oh, they're recycling someone, or whatever. And for the clip that that played, it was totally out of context for me, but it sound. I wondered if were they talking about Phaedra, that they're bringing Phaedra in? Because then Giselle was like, oh, it's like they're recycling. Because fate. I'm sorry. Robin was the one who's. Who's talking about casting, and Giselle was the one who said recycling. And so now people are like, oh, look, that's classic Giselle. She. She threw Robin under the bus. But it was Giselle who said it all along, so. Oh, Michael Horn. We love Michael Horn says Robin. Giselle were saying they were recycling people from love and hip hop. So that's what it was. And so quad was like, whoa, we have better. We have better ratings. So that was hilarious. Also, by the way, I think that Giselle accidentally outed that. Robin will be part of this road trip thing. FYI, for anyone who's getting really excited. Geez.
Ben
In case anybody wanted to speed bump on the road trip, here comes Robin. Load her up. What, are they gonna bring Emily to you? It'll save us a voice. Talk about recycling.
Ron
Seriously?
Ben
How dare you? How dare you?
Ron
Of course Emily will be you know, Emily and Gina will be there, though. I'm surprised they didn't put Emily and Gina in this bus because, like. Like, the worse seasons they have, the more Bravo seems to put them in front of our faces.
Ben
Yeah, well, something else happened. I saw another clip. I didn't see this one, and I really wish I had seen the one that you were talking about, because that's amazing. But I saw Giselle and Quad talking, and Giselle was going off on angel, and she's like, well, that's not my. You know, her husband says that I want her life. I don't want that life. I've seen her life, and who would want that? And Quad's like, well, why would you say that? I mean, she has a lovely life. She's like, well, I don't want her husband. Husband. You want. Would you want. You know, she's like, getting like that. And Quad's like, no, you're being too hard on the girl. She's like, no, I'm not. I'm not being too hard on the girl. You watch the show. She's like, yes.
Ron
And I met them in Bravo Con.
Ben
And they were lovely people. Lovely people.
Ron
How could you be so hard?
Ben
And Giselle got really perturbed with her and was like, like, how dare you? You know? And it makes sense that she was already getting annoyed with Quad, because I was like, oh, why is Gisele so perturbed with Quad? But it was pretty funny. I love seeing anybody stand up to Giselle and especially Quad, and I love that Quad told her, yeah, our show's doing better than yours, so pipe down, ma'. Am. So I love that she came on there because Married to Medicine is very second fiddle, I think. And just because it doesn't have a Real Housewives name, I think that it doesn't get the respect. It doesn't get the kind of fan reactions that Potomac does. But it's a lot of times a much better show. So I'm glad to see Quad up there confidently standing up for somebody, even if it's angel and kind of kicking Giselle's ass with it. It was nice to see you go Quad.
Ron
Yeah. What was funny was that Quad, when Quad was talking to Giselle, they're both smiling, and they were holding each other's hands. She's like, no, no, no, this isn't a read. It's just. I'm just saying. And then, you know, I was like, oh, well, that's interesting.
Ben
Oh, really?
Ron
Oh.
Ben
Oh.
Ron
Giselle didn't really know what to Say, but Quad, just sort of very sweetly and lovely, was basically, like, we're the bigger show. Why are we not getting more respect from you, Giselle, and from you, Andy, and from the network at large? So, I don't know. I mean, I think I'm really enjoying this season of Marriage to Medicine. I have been a little up and down on past season. The past, like, four or five years. I feel like it usually starts strong and then kind of, like, hits this rut of, like, stories about children and marriages that are, like, shaky, and the guys all sit and have scars, and Dr. Jack, he has, like, a sex toy party, and it sort of, like, hits a rut for me. But I feel like this season, I'm just, like, really loving the entire cast chemistry a lot. So I'm. I'm so happy to be back, like, fully invested in the show again. Especially because everyone keeps saying it's like, oh, this is the best show on Bravo, and no one talks about it.
Ben
Yeah, I feel like it's one of those that just can keep doing the same thing over and over, and I will start laughing every time. I mean, last night, the episode was Quad and Heavenly and Simone all fighting with each other, you know, like, back and forth, which we've seen now. How long has it been on? 12 years. I mean, it's been on a long, long time. And they are still doing the same thing. And I was just laughing my ass off. Like, they're coming at each other, having to hold them back, like, how dare you look up my VIN number? Why do you need a look at my. Like, I do not care about your VIN number. I only care about your property taxes dying.
Ron
I mean, I have to. It was hilarious. And I have to say, for a show that has in the past, in my estimation, the past four or five years become very, very repetitive. The truth is, there's so much lore on marriage to Medicine when we do the recaps. I'm always surprised at the random references both of us, like, go back to, like, oh, and then, like, that was the time. That's like, the time they sat there and had, like, a party outside after Quad was shooting the Sister Circle, and they didn't like what you're doing, the Sister Circle. Or, like, there's so. There's actually so much that, like, it has as deep a lore as any Real Housewives show. And I. I'm kind of excited. I love the fact that, like, I kind of tuned out a little bit the past three, four years. You know, I checked in a little Bit, but, like, there's still. The lore is just still loring. There's still so much stuff. And I, I love the newbies this season. I think Mimi and Brandy are great. I think Angel's like a very solid supporting. So, you know, I'm, I'm. I'm really all. I'm. I'm feeling at. I've not felt this excited about marriage medicine in years. When the show came out originally, I loved it. And I was telling everyone, anyone I saw, I was like, you gotta watch the show. You gotta watch the show. But I sort of start. I cooled off over the years. So I guess I'm just saying congrats to me. Right? I did some, you know, like, I stuck through it and now look where I am. Look at me.
Ben
You didn't feel like. I. I watched like a couple episodes, kind of checked in on it. Like, I really stuck in. But maybe that's the best way to do it, you know, just to come back and see that it's still really good.
Ron
Yeah, well, I'm. I. Yeah, I mean, it's just.
Ben
It's.
Ron
It's nice to see that the show can. Can be Strong in its 1212 year or whatever.
Ben
Yeah. So still going strong. And I'm glad that they, you know, they demoted Heavenly, which I was not happy about, but she's still there as a main character, basically. You know, she's still there. I mean, we got to see Heavenly do her campaign thing. Her campaign stumping in parking lot today. I mean, come on, it's so good.
Ron
That was.
Ben
And still, like trying to fight with Toya while she's giving a speech, you know, I mean, come on. No one beats Heavenly in my book.
Ron
Yeah.
Ben
So other things that are going on, small news, you know, maybe, but satisfying all the same. It looks like Tom and Ariana finally settled whatever they needed to settle with their house, which is good, so they can stop going to court. God, could you imagine just having to still talk to Tom about moving out of that goddamn house in the Valley? Just get out. Just go. So congrats to those two crazy kids and exclusive members Only Palm beach stars react to Bethenny Frankel calling new Netflix cast the Walmart Birkins.
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Well, that's not a nice thing to say about someone's face.
Ben
So you've watched the first couple episodes of that one, huh?
Ron
I love it. I love it so much. I can't. That's my next. So I finished heated rivalry. Now I'm watching I love la. And then after that, it's Gonna be Members Only, but maybe I'll. Maybe I'll actually do Members Only. I watched the first episode. Maybe I'll do Members Only. Then do I love la, Because I think Members Only is just so great. It's exactly what I want. Bravo should have done it. And I was thinking last night when I was, you know, heading to JFK yesterday, flying back from New York, and I was like, it's time for Bravo to make another stab at Long Island. Not, like. Not Summer House Long island, like Nassau County. You know, we had Princesses Long Island. We also had secrets and Wives. I think we are due for a Real Housewives of, like, Great Neck or Nassau county, whatever. I think that would give us some of the vibes of Members Only Palm beach, because I think that Bravo missed the boat on Palm Beach. I think Bravo was too scared that it was gonna be very Mar A Lago focused and that the audience would be really turned off by that. We don't want to support people who want to go to Mar A Lago and all that stuff. But I think the truth is, the show is like. It's kind of like that first episode. I was like, this is so me. It's so me. And I think that you can probably get the similar vibes in Nassau County.
Ben
Oh, my God. They're monsters on that show. Monsters. Monsters. It's like watching Jimmy Dean sausages burning an air fryer with bad woods on. And I loved. I was dying laughing, like, do I want to be friends with them? No. They're horrifying people. And the whole. The whole. I've just never seen anything like that, where the whole community. They're dressed so crazy. They all look terrible. And all they do is talk about how terrible the other people look. And, like, this girl's not ready for Mar A Lago in Palm Beach. You got to look good. I'm like, you're wearing a curtain. You look crazy. You all look crazy. Your wigs are terrible. Your face. Whatever you're doing to your face is. It's not like you're ugly. It's not that. It's like the actual work they're getting is just so insane. Like, why are you putting a life raft on your face? What are you doing? I mean, I was cringing. I was. And I was going back. I watched the first two as well, because I thought, you know what. What if we have a chance to recap this? I don't want to watch it all. But I watched the first two episodes, and it was on the same screen on Netflix. You know how they autoplay the previews? It was the one of the ladies going, oh, my God, your teeth. Your teeth are beautiful. And I just panned right next door, and it was a Stranger Things monster, like, sawing all its teeth. And it actually makes sense, you know, because it was. It was horrifying. And it was so funny to see them paired together on Netflix like that. That.
Ron
Because it's.
Ben
It's terrifying. And the. The main chick is, like, best friends with Jill Zarin or something. And she looks like Jill. Hillary with one L. She looks like Jill. She has the same kind of dead eyes. You know how Jill is very animated in the face and stuff, but her eyes are just always looking ahead. They're not really looking at who's talking. They're thinking about something else. This lady has the exact same thing. She wears, like, a cape. Like, you were talking about this earlier in the week on Salt Lake City. She wears kind of capes and she walks like. She's always about to fall down. Like, I don't know if she's drunk or. But she's always about to trip.
Ron
And she looks like she is, like, staving off narcolepsy. Like, did we. Was it. Did I talk about how when she sat down with Romina, like, was it here on Krampus? I don't want to repeat myself, but Romina sits down because Romina in the first episode is torn between Hillary and this other lady. And, you know, they're both, like, the alphas, and they're vying for Romina, and Romina is prattling on, and Hillary is so bored, and she sits there and her head is, like, going, like, nodding like this. She's, like, nodding as if she's sitting, like, agreeing. But you can see she's actually just about to fall asleep. But she's also. You see her eyes? She's like, oh, this could be my next pawn. That'll be great. All right. Yes. And I just loved, like, the scheming, but also nodding off to sleep at the same time while wearing, like, a cape thing on her shoulders.
Ben
It's crazy. And the whole. The whole community thing of, like, we gotta get into Mar a Lago. Like, that's all they talk about. That's all they care about. To me, that's bizarre. Like, I just can't believe there's a whole world that's like, that. Ms. CC7 is saying, why do we need to. Platform bigots and racists. Listen, for me, it's not platforming it. It's watching what's out there and laughing at these people? Because what else are you gonna do? I mean, it's crazy. Like, I'm not saying they're great. I'm saying they're terrible. They're horrible people. I'm not sitting there watching like, oh my God, are great. I'm watching it like, these. This whole thing needs to burn down, you know? But what can I tell you? I've never seen anything like that.
Ron
I kind of am. Like, when we. When we get into the discussion about platforming, you know, people who are like maga and want to go to Mar a Lago or whatever, when we like, I find I'm sort of at a place where I'm like, oh, no, we can't give these people platforms. Because I feel like that is how I feel. And yet at the same time, I'm like, the one who loses out is me. Like, these are hilarious shows of awful people. That's Real Housewives is always about awful people. And you always. And the whole point of the show was you sit there and you say, how do these people function in the real world? How do these people. They are so. They live such sheltered bubbled lives. How in the world could they ever exist? And so, like, yeah, I don't want to give these people. I don't want to give Tumbles, what's her name, DJ Tumbles. I don't want to give her a platform.
Ben
But then I'm the one come from.
Ron
I'm the one who gets hurt because I don't have something really funny to watch as a result. And then I've got to go watch the Roni reboot instead. Like, no, thank you. I want my. I want. I want my entertainment.
Ben
I think the Roni reboot is kind of a perfect example of what happens when the network listens to the audience and says, stop platforming terrible people. We get a show about mostly agreeable people, like politically or lifestyle wise or whatever, and then we're just bored to death, you know, I'd rather just be annoyed with crazy people. I don't understand. I mean, Ramona, I never understood her. I still don't understand. I don't get anything about her, how she got, how she functions as a human being. I don't know how, honestly, like, how does she just not get run over 10 times a week by angry people? But she's funny to watch, you know, I try. You got to separate sometimes. You got to separate morals from housewives watching. And this one is absolutely insane. We've seen a lot of Housewives rip off shows, but I've never seen one that really focuses on such a unique group of people that I have nothing to do with and want nothing to do with. It's just such a different world to me that I watch it like, what? Yeah. DJ tumbles. How does that even happen? Where are you DJing?
Ron
And if someone said, I am not going to watch that show because I do not want to support these women who. The only thing they care about is if they can get into Mar a Lago, I will 100% support you. I think, like, 100% don't watch it. If this is like. Like a bridge too far for you. But I'm just sort of at a place. I'm just like. I'm like, this show is making me laugh. I don't think whether or not they have a show, I don't. I don't know if it's gonna make a material difference in their lives, but it will make more of a material difference in my life. So.
Ben
Yeah. And, you know, I agree with a lot of these comments that are saying, like Carrie is saying. It doesn't make me laugh. It just makes me sad. Agree to disagree. And, yes, I think that that's fair. You know, I'm not telling anybody they're wrong if they don't want to watch it or for taking a, you know, drawing a line in the sand. God knows we do it, you know, all the time. So, you know, you've got to have. You've got to have that line for yourself. For me, it's just like watching. It's like watching a circus. It's like watching animals in a zoo. I don't get it.
Ron
But it's like if Michael Myers decided to retire and move to Palm beach, he's like, you know what? I'm sick of killing people. I'm moving to Palm Beach. Get me a caftan and see if I can get into Mar a Lago. Because they all kind of look like him, right? And I just. I don't know. I. I need to be able to. I need to be able to make fun of. Of awful people. It's just not as fun to make fun of good people. I. I'm really sorry that I cannot have a better justification than that, but that's just where I'm at right now.
Ben
Well, it looks like we've got time for another. What. What are you looking at?
Ron
Now, let's talk about the other thing that people were. Were talking about a lot. Well, one thing I real quickly. Luann's daughter is now a medium. So if anyone is interested in staging their house or communicating with the other side, you now have Luanne's daughter Victoria can help you out. So that's fun. Another. Another thing, speaking of new Roni, Jenna went on to a podcast explaining why she left. And, you know, basically what she boiled it down to is, like, you know what? Everyone was, like, 20 years younger than me. Everyone was having newborns. I have a kid in college. I'm just in a different place. Their careers, they're still hustling. My career is, you know, I'm rich. She basically is like, I have no connection to these people. And. And then she said, well, season two, I was more, like, connected, so I liked it. And then they brought on Raquel and whatever. But I think it also speaks to the failure of that show, of that reboot, that they put on someone like Jenna Lyons, because she's Jenna Lyons, and she has no inherent organic connection to anyone else on that show. And we're supposed to just watch it with the same adoration and love that we do all the other ones. It just, like, it really just is another example of why that reboot did so badly. So if you want to check out that one, that podcast, go check that out, because, you know, Jenna's always interesting. But the thing that I really want to get to here that people have been talking about, is that someone asked Ben Affleck if he knows who Lisa Barlow is, and it was on Access Hollywood. They asked Ben, and he's like. Because, you know, he just got finished with Jen Affleck, and now it's Lisa Barlow. And he's like, look, this is really hard. I don't want to get the lady in trouble. We go to these parties. There are a lot of people there, and Matt Damon was there, too, and they're both kind of. Ben's trying to be the nice guy and be like, ah, I don't know. I mean, maybe I met her, but, like, I don't know. There's so many people. There's so many people. There's so many. How about these apples, huh? And basically, he has no recollection of who Lisa Barlow is.
Ben
Yeah, Ben Affleck, you know, that meme with. That's just Ben Affleck standing outside smoking a cigarette, going like. Like, looking miserable. He just looks miserable. That's how he looked in the whole interview. That's just how he looks now. He's just really like, what the. Like, why are you talking to me? What are we doing? Do we even make another movie. Was I awake for this movie? What is this movie? Is it Al. Is it in a theater? What's Netflix? What is that? That I know, right? And then I haven't been to Salt Lake city in, like, 12 years. Like, I don't know. She's like, yeah, but Lisa Barlow from the Housewives. He's like, yeah, I do not know. Matt Damon's trying to help him. He's like, well, you know, maybe with south by Southwest. He's like, no, I mean, I don't fucking know who this person is, you know, but Lisa Barlow is so cray cray that in her own mind, she's like, oh, my God, Ben Affleck was talking about me in the news. So I'm sorry you guys have, like, such a low life, but, like, Ben Affleck was totally talking about me in the news today. What was your day like, Heather, who talked about you today? No one. That's right. Okay. Some upset Mormons in long underwear. Sorry, sorry. They don't have names.
Ron
Sorry. And then, of course, she responded, and she was like, it was the accountant, too. Love the movie. Heart, Heart, Heart. She's like, have receipts.
Ben
I have receipts of when I was 12 years old and met you in some alley somewhere or whatever. Let me post a picture.
Ron
He's like. Because I think they showed him a picture. If I remember correctly, they showed Ben Affleck a picture of Lisa. He's like, I don't know. She seems like a nice lady. He's like, damn it. Am I gonna have to Dunkin Donuts commercial with her now for the Super Bowl? Which would be amazing, by the way. But, yeah, so basically, Lisa's prolonging her Ben Affleck moment. So that was the other big thing that people were talking about the past few days. Oh, and one other thing I want to circle back to Jeff, Jenna, Jen, Jennifer Lyons. She said Jennifer Lyons. Jenna Lyons. I mean, she said that one of the reasons why she left also is that she found out that the new girls would be even younger than the ones that were already on the show. And she was like, yeah, this isn't for me anymore. And to me, that's got me very panicked that we're actually going younger. I mean, I feel like that was the death knell of the reboot, is that they tried to go young and hip and cool. And I'm just so worried that they're just gonna have a bunch of 35, 36 year olds on Roni who are like, oh, my God, I've got a Baby. And I love fashion. And, oh, my God, I die for this restaurant. And I'm just so worried that they're gonna turn it into the east coast version of what Beverly Hills is right now.
Ben
Well, I don't waste time worrying about New York because it's. What's done is done, and there's nothing I can do. I'm. I'm gonna have to show up when it's back and go into it with a new, fresh view on it. I will say I saw a pic because they just started shooting, I guess, and so they showed a picture. They had, like a. A thing with pictures of all the cast. And I will say two out of three of the new ladies look crazy. They have crazy.
Ron
That's good.
Ben
And that was good to see. Yeah. I don't know who they are, anything about them, but I do know they have fucking crazy faces. So that's all I need. That's enough. Promise to me, it looks like somebody over there is making an effort. I mean, I don't care.
Ron
That would be good. And they're young and crazy older.
Ben
She's like my age, so she's probably like, they're all young. You know, like, you go out and you're like, oh, God, everyone's 20. Like, I'm 45. I'm like, you're a child. Get out, Mike.
Ron
Get out. Michael Horn has a great point. He says, wait, if they're going to be younger, then maybe Ramona is returning. You look old.
Ben
I look young. Okay. All right, everybody. That brings us to the end of the audio portion of this. We will be moving to video chat with with you all to take your questions and comments. But for everybody who is on audio, thank you so much for being here, and we will talk to you in a couple of weeks.
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Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: January 20, 2026
In this energetic Crappy Hour live broadcast, Ben and Ronnie dive deep into Bravo breaking news, dissect the freshly announced cast for Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, analyze Bethenny Frankel’s latest antics, and gleefully poke fun at the Bravo universe—with a few tangents into pop culture, Palm Beach monsters, and yes, those infamous Ben Affleck denouncements. No stone is left unshaded as the duo bring their signature blend of affectionate mockery, sharp insight, and improv comedy to the latest Bravo happenings.
“We’ve been rooting for those two to break up since they first made out in a hot tub in season one. I said, run away from that, man.” —Ben (05:20)
“Every person on this cast except Giselle and Kyle…is at the height of delusion.” —Ben (18:09)
“Some people do things for joy, or for desperation, or they have to pay their rent…Never seen somebody sued a company for doing wrong things and then the company hires that again. Good for her!” —Ben as Bethenny (22:00)
“There’s so much lore on Married to Medicine. It has as deep a lore as any Real Housewives show.” —Ron (33:10)
“It’s like watching Jimmy Dean sausages burning in an air fryer with bad wigs on. Do I want to be friends with them? No. They’re horrifying people.” —Ben (37:19)
“Sometimes you gotta separate morals from housewives watching. And this one is absolutely insane.” —Ben (41:47)
“He just looks miserable. He’s just really like, what the…why are you talking to me? Do we even make another movie?” —Ben (46:20) “She seems like a nice lady. Damn it, am I gonna have to do a Dunkin’ Donuts commercial with her now for the Super Bowl?” —Ron, impersonating Affleck (47:45)
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