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Yeah, well, she is dark, Andy, and that's my opinion. You know what? I've tried to move on with you, but I'm resolved. I'm good. I'm good. Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, the ladies left rough seas of Cancun only to have a very turbulent flight back to Utah. Let me tell you, one of the only things that is more annoying than flying with housewives is flying with children. And I've got two.
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And what was left to fill the void in that first class cabin was a Rashomon effect. Oh, my God, is that a new haircare product? I love them. Can I do an ad with them? They are. Rashomon is a client of mine for 30 years, so I think that I'm the one who's entitled to it. Um, I just trademarked Rashomon, so. Yes.
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Okay, well, we've just seen clips of nothing proving anything, so let's. Let's ask Meredith and Brittany where the two of you stand today. I. Meredith's like, I mean, it's just nothing, so. Okay, well, Carl from Bad said, brittany, why bring up that obscure tick tock about Seth's alleged infidelity on the show? Okay. Oh.
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Oh, you know what? I shouldn't have. I shouldn't have said it to the group. I shouldn't have. I should have sang it. If I had sung it, people would have enjoyed it much more.
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I should have sung it in the tune of Miss Saigon. Andy, you know, that was a big hit for me. Big hit on tour. And Meredith's like, well, your intention was to hurt me, as you admitted you told me that. She goes, no, my intention was to sing a song. And here it goes.
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I'd like to. I'd like to. Okay, A lot of times marriages get brought up in this group, and the intention is never nice. Like, I'm not saying what she did was right, but the rest of us don't flip out like you did.
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Oh, really?
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So what we do is we get into old timey colonial clothes clothing and have everyone sit around and make a constitution for how we should conduct ourselves and then ignore it for the rest of the season. Okay.
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Bronwyn never flips out when her family's brought up. Okay, so Angie's like, really? I mean, Angie had a flip out for two years. Oh, sorry, Lisa. Someone says, really? I mean, Angie had a flip out for two years over her marriage. And Bronwyn's like, okay, but my marriage has been talked about a lot. And you didn't say, oh, I saw this TikTok. You tried to say, Meredith, that you saw firsthand that, you know, my husband was cheating on me. And I didn't throw. Didn't, you know, throw? I didn't bully anybody. I didn't lose my mind. Allegedly. Allegedly.
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Well. Well, I didn't bully anyone either, I'd like to point out. So Brittany's like, well, you can feel what you feel, but, like, what you do with those feelings is, like, up to the person. And, like, you know what I mean? Okay, so Brittany Thanks. Brittany, you said on Watch Happens Live the other night that you proved that Seth was unfaithful. And we see a clip of Andy being like, do you approve that Seth was unfaithful? And she goes, baby. And so we know this is not going to be very strong at all, but here we go. So she's like, yep. Oh. She goes, oh, my God. Did my face just go beat red? Oh, my God. Do I've got smoking gun? Yes. Okay. Okay. Well, this is not proof that would hold up in court. It's not even really proof. It's just a box of Cheerios. But I feel like you look at it and you just know cheated.
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Exactly, exactly, exactly. Just like I told you guys.
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And Whitney is like, that's not proof. It's not proof.
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Seth told someone that's close to me that he told me that. Yeah, I have two girlfriends where I work. And Lisa's like, oh, so you're saying that Seth told Jared this? Okay, because you told me first, and I thought it was ridiculous. And let's talk about all the other things that Jared said, like that your husband Bronwyn goes to Dubai and, you know, get. Gets ED meds and stuff. Like, he gets Dubai ED meds. Okay, he can't even get ED meds in America. That's what. He doesn't even support American ED meds. What do you have to say about that, Bronwyn?
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Huh? Doesn't even really make sense. Wait, hold on. Let's, like. Let's, like, not catch strays here. Winter Olympics, Friday, February 6th. NBC and Peacock, everyone. No.
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Well, Lisa, I did hear that you told Brittany that she should make. She should make sure to say that on camera. And Lisa's like, I said it on camera. What are you talking about? And Brittany goes, you know what? I'm actually impressed that Lisa brought it up herself. I mean, she groomed me for six months to do her work for her. To say that. She did. She did. She groomed me.
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No, no, her boyfriend did. On camera. He brought up at Amy's party. He brought up at Amy's party. And he was, like, so happy to say it. Guess what? At Amy's party. Yeah. Yeah, I marvel at it. So now we see a flashback of unseen footage of Lisa and Jared talking.
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At Amy's Utah socialite Amy. God, what a disappointment she was. Man. Amy, you could have been. I've never heard more in one season than Utah socialite Amy. I did in the first half of the season. Where were you, Amy? You were given your chance and you pissed it away. Amy, I hope you are sitting on your couch holding your head in shame.
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Well, if you see Gamey, just let me know where you find her, okay? Because she was missing. So Lisa is like. Lisa's like, jared, Jared, I was just asking for you. Like, why don't you tell Amy here about where Todd wanted. You. Wanted you and him to go. Like, tell her. Tell her what he wanted you to do. Jared. Say it. Say it for all of us. Say it, say it, Say it. And Jared.
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And he's like, I'm staying out of any controversy. Okay? I know, I know the. What's his name? I know the Osmond. The Osmond sister and brother. I know I'm out of it.
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Osman, sister, brother, also known as my cous. I have.
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I'm sorry, Johnny. I'm sorry. I had a moment.
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I was confused by this. Can you clarify it? So they're talking about, like, Britney heard from someone that says that Seth told this person that he has two girlfriends. And then I guess that this person then tell Jared. And now they're saying Lisa tried to bring Lisa. And then, like, I think they're saying also knows about rumors about Todd.
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Just to start it. Just to start it. I think. I think Seth was telling the guys, like, oh, I have two girlfriends. And then Jared went and tattled to Brittany. Right. So then what was the rest of it?
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But then, like, they're saying Lisa wanted Jared to say something on camera to.
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Amy because I think that she heard that Lisa heard from Britney that this was said and other things that Jared had said, like he wanted to go, I guess, to do it. Sounds like from what I'm cobbling together, Dubai was thrown in there because she says, where do you and him wanted to go? So tell him what he wanted you to do. So is she saying that Todd was saying we should go to Dubai together or something? I don't know. That's what it sounded like.
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I don't know. I think what probably the original conversation was is the guys all standing around and instead saying, guys, I gotta get to New York. I got my two girlfriends there. Obama, Pan and the subway. God, I love those things. Come on, guys. Like, you know, it was like a stupid Seth.
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Gotta get back to my girlfriend. Big and Lots. All right.
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Gotta get back on my girlfriend. Lady Liberty and Sue Simmons. And they're like, you know, Jared was probably like, whoa, he has two girlfriends in New York? Like, that is what I believe happens, that Seth made a stupid Seth joke, as he does, and then he like. And Then Jared goes and runs with it and tells Brittany. And then Britney's like, I have proof. It's like, you have nothing.
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You have no proof. And so Jared. And then in this flashback, Jared says, I'm gonna have to plead the fifth.
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Okay, ladies?
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And Lisa's like, no, no, no. You don't tell her. Where did Todd want to go with you? Where did Todd want to go with you? So that's the big question and we don't get an answer. And that's the thing that's making me crazy about this reunion. They keep saying stuff and then we don't get answers or see any evidence from the stuff. I want to see it. So we come back to the present and Bronwyn's like, oh. And then you double down and you told her to make sure it got caught on camera by saying it in Greece. And Lisa's like, no, I didn't. What's the truth? We'll never know. We'll never know.
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We'll never know. We'll never know.
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Yeah, so. Or bring up the fact that Bronwyn caused all this in the first place.
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And I know I'm gonna get an email by the way of someone being like, you know, I have epilepsy and I suffer from seizures all the time. It's not a laughing matter. You don't even bring it up like that. I get it, I get it, I get it. But let's talk about this situation with Brittany. She was not saying it in the context that she was accused of. And Ron gets off scot free for totally manipulating that moment. Yes.
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So then we see. She's like, I never said she had seizures. Flashback to Britney going, I mean, geez, every time Meredith gets mad, she has a seizure. Then Britney's like, okay, but guys, my daughter Olivia used to have seizures when she was little. And Mary just goes, oh, God. She goes. And then when Meredith acts like this and she's screaming at me like a vile, disgusting human being, it triggers me because it reminds me of my daughter having seizures. Britney, shut up. Just because.
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No, no.
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Fail.
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Fail. She's like a seizure. She always would have seizures. She'd order them at Starbucks. I think you mean steamers. Oh, you're right. Steamers. She always has steamers. Sorry, guys.
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Brittany, you abandoned that daughter, and you do not get to bring up her seizures as some trigger point for you, for some stupid fight that you started. Stop it.
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You cannot. You cannot suddenly, selectively have, like. Like pull the seizure card. This doesn't work.
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So this whole, like, seizures trigger me because of my daughter, which is why I was making fun of somebody who doesn't have seizures for having seizures. Do you understand? I'm just a failing mother. Like, how does any of this even make sense in her little pea brain? So Meredith goes, well, she's a walking trigger.
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I wasn't saying that she was having seizures. It was just sort of making light of it. It was a terrible joke, and I'm sorry. But it's also triggering to me. I'm like, okay, don't. Don't do this. So Andy's like, okay, number one question I keep getting, and I know you all keep getting, is why didn't anyone record the thing on the plane? Why didn't anyone pick up their phone? Heather goes, well, I have so many theories on this. Okay, well, here we go. Whitney said to me this morning in the dressing room, she was like. And I was kind of shocked. I was shocked that she. But she said, my biggest regret is not picking up my phone and recording it. And I thought, wow. Just being honest, I thought, what kind of piece of shit person Would go and record what's happening over there. Who would do that? I'm just glad that she's not here, because I would. I feel very comfortable speaking about this liberally. If she were here, I'd be very uncomfortable saying this, but honestly, I'm just glad I am here. I'm behind the logo. Oh, sorry, sorry. I want to call you a piece of shit person.
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She just called her cousin a piece of shit. And Heather Meredith. Whitney hears it, and she just looks over and she, like, takes a minute, say, wait a minute. Yeah, that was crazy behavior. Well, she's calling Whitney a piece of. No, it was a scene. And we were just tolerating it to get home because we knew why she was mad. But it shifted in the fight. Okay, Heather. So text from ass says, heather, you recorded in the bathroom in Palm Springs when Lisa got her $60,000 ring, but you. You didn't record this. And I love that he held this until Heather had her whole speech about what kind of piece of shit person records somebody else. And then it cuts to a video of Heather being like, here I am in a bathroom. Lisa's losing it. It's amazing. She lost the ring. Hypocrite. I'm glad. I'm glad the editors had that one in their back pocket. That was.
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That was a really funny. Yeah. Shady callback. So Heather's like, if Whitney had taken out her phone, if production had taken out their phone, if the sisterhood had taken out a phone, I would being like, what the are you guys doing? Are you guys trying to find some receipts, some proof, some screenshots, some timelines? What are you doing? Brittany's like, sure, that might make some.
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Sense, except that might. I'm sorry. That might make some sense, except that traditionally, all plane rides have these recordings. On Real Housewives shows, we see it all the time. When they get on the plane, the only footage we have is the cast recording each other on the plane. So. And so sitting in first class. Look at everybody in their seats. Look at what they have. So housewives record each other on planes every single season. So acting like it would be so crazy to pull out a phone on a plane because you're on the show is silly.
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Yeah.
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Thank you. I present that into evidence. You are welcome. Evidence acceptance. Thank you.
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Well, the point I was going to make the last time Brittany User got your phone didn't really go well. And we see a flashback of Meredith doing the things that they're accusing of her doing in the sky, but here she's doing it on A sprinter van.
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Yeah.
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She's on over a seat. Be like, what are you doing, my toddler?
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So. Which is why my opinion has always been that Meredith probably did do most of what they're saying on the plane. It's just not that big of a deal. It's not that out of the ordinary. They're acting like, oh, my God, Meredith lost it on a plane. Meredith has lost it on every form of transportation that has ever been invented on this show. So what? That's what she's. She's going to work. Okay. Let mama. Let mama make her money.
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Yeah, exactly. So Heather's like, well, my second point is we just don't. We don't record each other. And I understood why you were mad. It escalated and escalated and escalated, and we were on your side, and I don't know at what point it tipped, but maybe when we were hustling her through, you know, security or went after the plane, and Mary's like, no, you weren't on my side. No, I went on that plane on your side, and I texted you and I was on your side, and I texted you when you got on the jetway and you were screaming at me, well, you were on my side of breakfast this morning. You weren't on my side then. And. Because as we walked out of the breakfast, I even said to you, I am shocked I didn't have support from you this morning.
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So now we see unseen footage, but don't. It's not the unseen footage that we wanted, unfortunately, but it's unseen footage after breakfast on the yacht. And Meredith is saying, well, she deserves every ounce of what I said. And the fact that you support her is a disappointing other. And Heather's like, I'm just trying to survive here. I mean, this is a hot mess. So also, I'd like to say Heather says, wow, Meredith, I was supporting you. I don't know what point it tipped. I remember what point it tipped. It tipped in the bedroom when you and Whitney called Meredith in there and tried to get her to go against Lisa, and then she didn't. That's when it tipped. That's when you changed. And you were like, get her. Let's get her.
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I mean, Meredith, your ability to recall specific information when it serves you. You still haven't been able to tell us accurately what crazy rich Asians is about. Well, I mean, obviously, it's about a pastry chef who falls in love with Alec Baldwin, but then Steve Martin and, you know, it's very complicated.
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No, that's a movie. It's about lower middle class Europeans learning how to play canasta with each other. No, that's not it. You still haven't watched the movie, Meredith.
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It's about one crazy rich Asian who goes to America and gets separated from his family and winds up being chased by cats after he's told specifically that there are no cats in America. And he spends the entire time and Linda Ronat sings a song to him and in the end they get married.
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So I think also Daniel Day Lewis hurt one of his feet and plays piano with the other one there. Did I do it? Didn't I do it? So what did you say? What did I say to you on the plane then, Meredith? You don't remember a thing you said to me on the plane? Lisa had to tell you. I had to tell you. And then you still denied it. And she's like. Well, she won't stop talking. You know what? I'm not gonna talk over there. She screeched at me for two months now, Andy. She goes, I screeched at you for two months? Fuck you, Meredith. Fuck you. Fuck you for saying that. I've never screeched at you. And I will start. Our friendship is over from this point. So buckle up, Meredith, because it's not going to be a fun ride. You have screeched at her for literal ears and please be quiet. And who are you threatening with the absence of your friendship? Go.
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Well, Andy, I hate to break it to you, but apparently I'm Mr. Belding and that over there is Screech. Okay, Our friendship is over. Apparently so, Meredith.
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Well, except for the fact that Screech has been known to do some porn. Just putting it out there.
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Rip, by the way, Rip didn't know Streets was dead.
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Would not have attacked his only fans had I known.
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Well, you know, I. Unfortunately, I don't remember that. I don't remember reading that news update on the plane because I was too busy watching the movie. But it's very sad for him. But you are still screeching, Heather. And that this does remain a fact.
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Wait, did Screech die?
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Really?
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Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Dustin Diamond.
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Yeah.
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I had no idea. Very quickly.
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Very, very, very quickly.
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Sure did.
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We're. God, there's like. I have been your friend for six years. I've sat on, I've backed you. Vagina gate. Rolling thunder. Garbage. Half of New York City. Half of New York City.
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Wait a minute.
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What are you talking about?
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Wait, what? What? What? What? Blink, blink, blink, blink, blink. Murderous. Like you didn't back me. Oh, really? Then why don't we talk about the lingerie party? Me and Whitney, I had your back. And when Meredith's like, you didn't back me on everything. And you know what? I backed you on everything. I have backed you. I've said, that woman does not need a mattress protector if she doesn't want to use one.
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You've been silent. You've never backed Lisa. This is the first time I've ever seen you silence. Speak up. You've used maybe 10 words tonight, and guess what? When you use them, you are a tag team. So why don't you say more, but say less. Why don't you?
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Oh, you said tonight, but it's the daytime, so I guess we know where.
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You'Re coming when she said that, but she said, I have plenty to say, and it's also daytime.
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I wish she had said, okay, so am I tag teaming with Lisa or not? Because that was your accusation for the last hour. So Heather's like, well, good luck to you. We are done. And he's like, okay, well, so should we have Britney and Meredith say what you happen. You think happened on the plane? Emeritus is like, no, I have a question first. Because I've been trying to answer this question ever since we've started. And my question is. And Heather goes, to whom? Just be quiet. My God. So she's like, all right, well, the whole group, I didn't deny anything that happened. I never said that something did happen. But what we didn't agree on is exactly what happened. Fakasha versus Fakaca, for example. And if what everybody, the majority of people are saying happened, and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone who's Britney's friend didn't go up to her and help her, or if you're so concerned about me as you express, then why didn't you come to me and say, mary, what kind of friends are you? That's my question.
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I did.
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I did.
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I spoke to you. Okay, well, he's talked outside in the bathroom. But we all know when you talk it to someone outside the bathroom, it doesn't count because you just have to pee so badly. You're not really listening. Well, Lisa did and I did when we got off the plane and I texted you when we were getting on and I said, I feel sorry that you were so upset. And you saw the text I sent you after you had said to me, our friendship is over. You're siding with her. Well, I mean, you sent it in screech text so I couldn't really read it very well. Too much screeching over text. I can't read so much screech preaching horrible things you said about her that we have not spoken about. Let's talk about what's not spoken about. That's protecting you. The horrible, horrible, slanderous things that you said about her on the plane that we all heard, and no one has spoken about it while you screeched about it, which is different than speaking about it, but sure, go on.
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I love. Heather goes, so you think we're protecting Britney? We're protecting you by coming on television and calling you an alcoholic and a drug addict. We're trying to help you, Meredith. Mary goes, well, we're definitely not helping Britney.
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This girl is.
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So now they're saying that she was saying libelous and horrible things. Now we've gotten to libelous, too. This. We've added libel to the plane ride. So Whitney's like, wait, I tried. I did ask Meredith multiple times. I said, meredith, it's volleyball in the winter or the spring Olympics.
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Could you please take that bag off your head? I can't hear you. It's not a bag. It's a logo. Well, all right. Well, that's not what you said. That's not true what you said.
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No, but we said absolutely true. They're screeching from her couch and.
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And then you said you'd bring me into the fight. No, no, Whitney, that's another lie from the liars of all liars.
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I said, be quiet. And Mary did. I ask her multiple times to be quiet. And then she said, give me tick tock. Give me tick tock. And he's like, what did she say? You just. She said said. She didn't say say that on the plane. What's going on? Lisa's like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So now they're all talking over each other again. And Andy makes him stop and scream over everyone.
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I'm not like Heather with her powers of screeching.
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We are not friends anymore. Every time I tried to talk to Meredith, she's bringing me into the fight and be like, we want the tick tock. And then Lisa would lean over and yell at me.
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Well, there was one time where maybe I did that where I took your tray of food and threw it in your face. But I was just plino. That's like, you know, who hasn't done that on an airplane before, right? You were saying, show us the tick tock. Show us the tick tock. Okay, one at a time. Meredith, what did Whitney say? To you on the plane. Well, the only engagement I had with Whitney on the plane was in the last hour or so when I threw a glass across the cabin at her face. I mean, that was minor, I would say, but then I guess it was close to landing time. And I said, lisa, nobody can find this tick tock. I even asked Whitney, and Whitney said, I hear my name. What are you saying about me? And I said, I couldn't find a Tic Tac. Okay. And I could not find the ticket.
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Okay, this is important because we have just now shifted this conversation into the plane is going to land, right? So Whitney's like, no. Lisa leaned into my chair. Now stop interrupting. I will let you speak when I am done speaking. Say nuh. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
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Love y'.
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All. So Meredith says, I said to Whitney, I told her what I said, and she snapped at me, and she said, you go find the tick tock. And I go, wow.
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I said that to Lisa, and that was really nasty. Out of nowhere. And that's what it was.
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It's not out of nowhere, girl.
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Wait a second. Wait a second. I thought you didn't remember anything from the plane. Well, no, I remember everything. I just don't remember how crazy rich Asians ends. That's it. Okay, but you're the one that says, I don't remember.
D
Okay, well, why did no one switch seats with Britney? And Meredith goes, thank you. Thank you. So Brittany gives a speech, and she's like, okay, well, I can answer that. It's because it was a six hour international flight, okay. And we were in full descent when it really started to get raucous. Okay? We were zip tied to the seat. I mean, zip tied to the seat.
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Ruckus.
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We were facing down. We were toes down. I was staring at the ground.
C
She's acting like they were descending into Afghanistan to find Osama bin Laden. Dark 30, the operation. We were too deep. We were too deep. We couldn't. We couldn't turn around. Now at this point, it was go time. It's like, okay, avoiding a missile.
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So stupid. And she's literally doing it. Like, oh, my God. We were f. We were nose down. Nose down. Andy and I barely came back from the bathroom, and they said, brittany, you have to sit down. That's how bad. That's how raucous it was. Andy. I was coming back from the bathroom and they made me sit down. And that's when I came back and I had wine on my seat, and my seatmate said, I'm sorry. And they were wiping it up for me.
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Well, this is such bullshit. Do I need to pull up information about unruly passengers? No, because that was when people started screaming at each other. And it was too late. It was too late. By then, we couldn't take out our cameras. We couldn't do anything because the plane was going down and flames were all gonna die. I mean, we landed, it was fine, and we weren't really in any danger, but, like, it was scary.
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Okay, so this didn't go on for six hours straight, as you guys have been saying the whole season, because the whole season you guys have said, this was six hours of Meredith screaming and yelling and having a fit. Nobody did anything. And now that we get to the reunion, it's not until you were landing literally nose down to the point where you were looking at the earth and couldn't even go to the bathroom anymore. So what is it? So Meredith is like, this is. You know, there was a producer sitting right behind me. Why don't you ask her what happened? And. And he's like, well, she said she was in a different class of service from you. But then I saw the seating chart that Bravo posted. They posted the. The seating chart of the plane, and there is a free row. It highlights where all the women are sitting. And behind Meredith and Lisa, there's an empty row, which I would assume is. She's saying she was right behind me, that that was production, so it didn't look like a different Class. Unless there was someone between the rows, you know? Anyway, so Meredith is like, well, what I'm saying is I didn't dump wine. I didn't kick a seat. But did. Did Brittany say that she kicked wine? Because Brittany said that she came back from the bathroom and there was wine in her seat, and her seatmate was saying, I'm so sorry, and cleaning it up for her. So did the seatmate spill it in her wine? Did it go. I mean, none of this makes sense to me. Right?
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Okay, so they're all arguing, and Angie's like, she said, you pulled your hair. And Mary's a wall. And that's what she. That's what I'm saying. If that happens, happen. I mean, that wouldn't happen. You said to me, getting up from your seat, using your body weight to use your chair, that maybe inadvertently her hair felt jostled or pulled. And Meredith is like, no, I didn't touch her hair. I wouldn't touch her hair. That disgusting high body count hair. That was for you, Angie.
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Why would I touch that hair? So, Meredith, you're denying what the women have said that they've said happened on the plane? She goes, I had direct. That I. I'm denying that I had direct. Direct engagement with Britney. I was talking to Lisa. I didn't touch Brittany. And the only time I had any contact was when Lisa was sleeping and I had to climb over her. And that was the only contact I had, verbal or physical that I had with Brittany on the plane. And I didn't actually touch her.
C
Yeah, but when you. You said this one. Remember? You said this one. And Meredith goes, by the way, you know what's so funny? American Airlines is calling me right now. They're like, are you talking about our planes? Why is American Airlines calling me? Come back to that later. Meredith is like. She's like, I didn't say this one. I said this slot. Okay? And she was sleeping, and who would I be talking to? And Mary's like, well, you know, she's like, she did have that. Like, she did have. Had to have shaken the chair because Britney's chair was in front of Lisa. That's right.
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That's.
C
Oh, yeah, by the way. Yes, it was in front of Lisa, so I couldn't have shaken it because I had to get by. And by the way, I had a sprained toe. My toe was broken. So I am. Another thing. I wasn't even on the plane, so case dismissed.
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So Andy's like, did you shake the chair harder than you had to when you passed. And she says, no. Mary's like, probably, maybe a little bit. It's like, this is just ridiculous. So Brahm was like, just own something. Just own something. Says the person that wasn't there and saw none of this. And prominent. Wait for your own. So Meredith's like, all right, let's backtrack. Okay, so now we go into the new thing. So now she's like, I want to talk about why I really have such a fractured relationship with Britney D. And now we find out.
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She goes. And it's rooted in bigotry. I was like, oh. So then Meredith goes, it's something I addressed with her off camera. And she got very nasty to me. And finally she eked out an apology. She eked out, I. I snuggled you. I snuggled you. And said, careful, the words you say. Children will listen.
D
Let her speak. So tell me what you're referring to. So, okay, so Meredith tells us a story which anybody who follows this stuff on the social media knows this already, but there was a dude in Salt Lake City who runs a place called Hunty's Nail Bar, and he's a big anti Semite. And someone dm. There was a big dm. It was all over the news. And he had basically some guy. She goes over it. I'll just let her go over instead of me trying to explain it. But she's like. But then there was, you know, there was this thing on social media. Brittany never picked up the phone and said, meredith, I know you saw this, and I want to explain what happened. This is not true. Oh, no, she does say that. I'm sorry, I got lost in my notes. Okay? The nail technician, she said, has an interaction with a Jewish man where allegedly, he said, oh, you're Jewish, and made a nasty emoji. And the guy said, what's wrong with that? And the nail tech responded with, jews are pedophiles who escape prosecution by fleeing to Israel. So that was all over the news. It was all over the news.
C
And then Britney. Then the guy asked Brittany and Jared to do a. According to Meredith, the guy asked Brittany and Jared to do a positive review for him on, like, Google or whatever, because he's getting all this anti Semitic hate, which he should be, because that's really anti Semitic to say that. So Meredith is like. She's like, well, man, they wrote a glowing review from him. And then they DM'd and were called out about it. And basically Brittany and Jared were then put on blast for putting, like, a warm review to this guy who is like, Like a raging anti Semite. Right. So then Meredith is like. And then here's the thing. She never picked up the phone and said, meredith, I know you saw this and I want to explain what happened. This is not true. So Meredith is like saying, like, amongst this controversy, Britney never thought to say, hey, Meredith, just so you know, I know this thing is happening out there. Like, I, like, this is not what I believe. This is not what I stand for. And so Meredith was very offended that Britney did not feel like it was important to. To remove any. Assure, Give. Give any assurances that this was not something she felt in her heart.
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Yes. And so just to add on to this, of course I looked this up. The second this came on the tv, I was like, oh, what? I was kind of giving myself a refresher. I looked at the Google reviews. Jared's is still up there, by the way. Jared left his up there. And there was a big thing where there's, you know, they're trying to get Brittany to take it down. And Brittany is saying, okay, I'll take it down. And Jared is behind her going, no, no, no, we don't have to take it down. Someone was messaging with Jared and said, you need to take this down. And he said, I don't even know you. I don't know him. I had an amazing pedicure. Sometimes things are not nefarious. He's doing Britney's nails because she's a client. Again, I don't want to. I don't walk around and ask business owners what their political or woke views are.
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And you should be old enough to not be offended by every little review just because of your own political reviews or your own political views. I simply went in for a pedicure. So hopefully you can calm down a little bit. Not everything. I wonder what a political statement.
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I wonder what he thinks about, you know, bakers, you know, because that was the whole thing of like, a baker doesn't want. Like a client comes in and wants, you know, two gay. Two gay guys want to have a wedding cake. And a baker says, I don't. I don't support this. This now. Like, is Jared gonna be like, okay with independent thought on. Actually, I don't know what I'm trying to say. I think I'm making a very poorly structured argument here. But the point is, like, well, I.
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Think he'd be on the team of both business owners in this one, right?
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I would. Yeah. About to say that was like, that was a terrible example, Ben. I think it's more like I'm sure if the, if the pedicurus said something along the lines of like ice or like something really liberal, that Jared would suddenly have a very. Be singing a very different tune than he is about like, oh, well, you know, nail techs are allowed to have like their own independent thoughts, like it's just business, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah. And the, the person responded, it's not politics, it's straight up bigotry and anti Semitism. And he just, you know, he left it up there. He doesn't care. And the text from the, the DMS from the guy that are being talked about right now are even worse. The guy starts out the other the victim says, why does my being Jewish mean something? And he said, that's just my emotion and expression upon learning of your Jewness.
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He says, that's awful.
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I mean, what the.
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That's. I mean, no one should ever see go get their nails done by this guy. I mean, what a hateful thing to say. And, but also, I think what I was trying to get at before with my ham fisted Colorado baker thing is that if Jared is. I lost it again. Sorry, we're having a serious conversation.
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Well, it's. Everybody thinks you should just have a right to have an opinion, right? Until it's you. That's the one.
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Jared's saying like, business is business and personal views are personal views. It shouldn't matter. So therefore he should be in support of like if two gay guys want to come in and get, and get a cake that like, it shouldn't matter that this guy is, you know, an homophobic baker because business is business and you just do the thing. And that's basically what Jared is advocating for is like, well, this guy may be reaching out to semi, but his business is business. I need a pedicure. And like he's, you know, I'm just, he's garbage.
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He's garbage for someone. His review up there, like for this to go on where it's even in the news, it's everywhere. This is not something like disagreeing with politics or something. This is like blatant, like Jews are pedophiles. They all, they all want to, what are you, Jew? I mean, this is really bad. And so, you know, finding out that someone's pedophile and then leaving your stuff up just to be like edgy and just to be like, oh, I'm going to leave this review up just because it pisses off the woke people just shows what a disgusting person that is because it doesn't even matter to him. It was one free pedicure. He's just going out of his way to be like, you know, haha, woke people. I'm sticking it to the wokes. And so Britney can do all of her crying and all of this which she's about to get into now, but that's still who you're with and that's still who you support. Britney so off like I don't want to hear shitty. Yeah.
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So Meredith is saying that like after a half an hour or 40 minutes of talking with Britney, she got like a half apology from her. So Britney said like, no, like the nails. She goes, the nail tech reached out to me and said, hey, I love Meredith Marks nails. I would love you to come. I do her nails. I would love you to come in. I'll do a free, you know, free nails, whatever if you do a post for me. And she's like, great, cool, free mani, petty. And then he's like, hey, I'm getting some bad reviews, can you write a good review? And I said sure, at least I could do. You did my nails free. I'll write a nice review. And then next thing I know someone sends me posts like whoa, this is happening. And I called him, I said, is this right? Are you anti semitic? I'm going to take down my review and never contacted him again. And now I'm going to, now I'm not going to reach out to you because A, you use the same technician as me and B, you're just as guilty as not knowing as me. So this is, this is what she is saying in her defense. But like you said, Jared still has his review up.
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Well, just to go over what she's saying here, she's saying okay. So then he called and said, well, I'm getting bad reviews, can you write a good review? So I said okay, absolutely. Least I could do. So I go on there and you didn't read the bad reviews reviews. If someone called you and said I'm getting bombed with one star reviews, you're not going to read any of those reviews because all the reviews say this anti semitic piece of shit. So you still did it knowing what he did. And don't tell me that you weren't curious and didn't look at all the one stars that he just told you he was getting. And then to make it like, oh, and then Meredith uses him. So then why is that such a big deal? And Meredith's like, no, you don't understand. That was the problem. He was my technician and he's talking like that that matters. Man's been in my house, you know, so it makes it even worse. And Brittany's like, but you used him, so you're just as guilty as not knowing as me.
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It's like, oh, this is like a very simple. It should be an open and shot thing. Like, my bad. I'm. I, I. I wasn't. I just was like, oh, I thought it was a free thing. And he hasn't write a good review, so I wrote a good review. I'm mortified. I don't believe that. Yada, yada, yada. So Andy's like, well, when you wrote the review, did you know he was anti Semitic? She's like, I don't even know what that word means. I don't know. Meredith is like, it was all over the news. It's all over the Internet. And Heather goes, so are you anti Semitic, Brittany? Because Heather's trying to help Brittany out. She's like, hell, no. So then apologize to her. She goes, I did a thousand times, but I have to finish the story. I'm like, girl, if you're being accused on national TV of being an anti Semite, you can't. Like, whether it's anti Semitic, whether it's homophobic, whether it's racist, especially for people like me who hadn't heard this story before. It's like when someone says, you should apologize, don't say, but I already did a thousand times. Be like, I apologize. Just say, I apologize, and just let it just be done with it. But she goes, no, like, literally, this is one of the worst accusations you can make of a human being, and I am the farthest thing from being of it. And I will not be called that. Without hearing me out, I'm like, well, you literally all just. All you have to do is say, I totally apologize. I will do my research next time. I'm mortified that I was associated with this. It's not wrong. I see how hurt you are. I see how hurt your family is. But instead, instead of apologizing, which she can do, she's like, this is one of the worst things you could call him.
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No, she's gonna do exactly what these people do, which is, first of all, she stands up out of her chair and starts, like, fake crying and throwing a big fit, and she's gonna. She's gonna use her tears. That's what, that's what happens every single time. And she's gonna make herself the victim. It's just so stupid and so gross. And the fact that Heather's sitting there like, oh, my God. She didn't know. She didn't know. You knew. You knew all of this. You've known all of this. Why are you acting like, oh, my God. It's like suddenly you don't care. And Bronwyn, who's over there, is supposed to be the one. Like, oh, I'm so. I stand up for everybody and I'm just for everybody's. No, no, no. It's just staying quiet. Like, she didn't know this either because they're all united for one thing. And it's just gross, you know?
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Well, she's. Britney is like, I cried. I cried. And I held you, my arms like a child, and I snuggled you like this. I guarantee you did not do that. I do not think that Meredith Mark would allow you to nestle her into your bosom. Like, that's not happening with Meredith. Meredith. I do not believe this. And so she's doing this whole thing of like, I won't be seen this way. I'm like, the more you're doing your little monologue here, the more you're being seen this way. Like, shush. You were like. So she's taking her moment to be like, how could you accuse me of this? Meanwhile, she's like linking herself to Jared Osmond, who posts the most repulsive memes that are so problematic. And then she's like, how could you accuse me of these things? It's like, because you're like, you have actually a very easy way to be exonerated. I think that honestly, if she said, I had no idea. We know that Britney is as dumb as rocks. If she said, I truly had no idea and I took it down, I'm mortified. I would believe her. I would be like. I'd be like, I don't think that. I think she just truly had no idea. But she's making it worse.
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Yeah. And Meredith is like, oh, God, sounds like a theater voice to me. And Heather's like, did this even happen? And. And Meredith's like, no, it didn't happen like that. And Brittany's like, and I sobbed. I cried. I cried to you. And Angie's like, how can you not believe that? Maybe she really didn't know. No, not. I can't. Not after she said, he told me he had a bunch of one star reviews so I could write a review. So I went to his review and you see all the other reviews there. It's not like they're secret. And Lisa's like, oh, yeah, she's so innocent. But we're always guilty. I guess we're the guilty ones. And Meredith says, yeah, well, look, this is what she's doing when we talk. She made herself the victim. And Britney's like, are you kidding me? I've never acted like the victim. Stop attacking me. I'm being attacked. I can. She leaves, like, yelling at everybody and throwing a big fake sobbing fit as she says she's never played the victim, like.
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And Andy's like, well, Marilyn, let me ask you a question. Has she ever said anything anti Semitic to you? She goes, well, she's been on the attack with me from day one. And I was nice to her and she just started attacking me. I was like, well, I don't know. Like, in the context of this show, I don't know if, like, that was rooted in anti Semitism. Maybe that's what Meredith's reality is. Maybe that's how she feels. But, like, I never. I didn't. Personally, I didn't think that Meredith was being singled out because she was Jewish. I just thought it was Britney just being sloppy and trying to stir some drama up or whatever. But now this has been entered into it. So Meredith is now saying that she feels very targeted by all of this. This. And this is when Britney, like, stands up and has her scene. And it's like, I am not a victim. I'm sick of being low hanging fruit, okay? I want to be high hanging fruit. I want to be the tallest fruit on the tree. I'm sick of it.
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Grow higher. I mean, what do you want me to say? So she runs off a marriage like, oh, yeah, she's the victim. I'm not the victim.
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I'm sick of this bullshit.
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I'm ganged up on. And she storms off and then she turns back, she's like, stop calling me a victim. I'm not a victim. I'm kidding. Stop bullying me. You're literally saying you're the victim as you're screaming, you're not the victim. And so she runs off and it's the end. It's the end of the reunion.
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That is it. Well, I'm sure that it's a pretty. A lot of things going on there at the end of the episode, so it'll be interesting to see what the discussion is online. But wow, that was a reunion. Everyone, thanks for being here. Fun times.
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Episode Title: RHOSLC S617 Reunion 2 Part 2: Scrolls, Trolls, and Flyingmobiles
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: January 21, 2026
This episode of Watch What Crappens recaps Part 2 of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 17 reunion. Ben and Ronnie deliver their signature irreverent and highly detailed commentary while dissecting the fallout from the cast’s explosive trip to Cancun—most notably the chaos and accusations that followed on the flight home. The reunion is a circus of allegations, shifting alliances, and unresolved drama, with the hosts both mocking and empathizing with the bewildering antics of the Housewives. Notably, the episode takes a sharp turn with serious discussions surrounding anti-Semitism, accountability, and who’s playing the victim—ultimately leaving listeners to judge the cast’s ever-complex dynamics.
Notable Quote:
"One of the only things that is more annoying than flying with housewives is flying with children. And I've got two." – Ronnie (02:09)
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Notable Quote:
"Jared goes and runs with it and tells Brittany. And then Britney's like, I have proof. It's like, you have nothing.” – Ben (09:28)
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“Brittany, you abandoned that daughter, and you do not get to bring up her seizures as some trigger point for you, for some stupid fight that you started. Stop it.” – Ronnie (15:11)
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Notable Quote:
“What kind of piece of shit person would go and record what's happening over there... I'm just glad that she's not here, because I'd... call you a piece of shit person.” – Ben paraphrasing Heather (16:46)
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Notable Quote:
“You have screeched at her for literal ears and please be quiet. And who are you threatening with the absence of your friendship?” – Ronnie (22:02)
"I'm sick of being low hanging fruit, okay? I want to be high hanging fruit. I want to be the tallest fruit on the tree. I'm sick of it." – Ben as Brittany (48:18)
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Notable Quotes:
“This is not politics, it’s straight up bigotry and anti Semitism.” – Ronnie (40:38)
"For someone [Jared] to leave his review up there... he’s just going out of his way to be like, you know, haha, woke people. I’m sticking it to the wokes. And so Britney can do all of her crying and all of this... but that’s still who you’re with and that’s still who you support, Britney.” – Ronnie (41:05)
“If she said, I had no idea. We know that Britney is as dumb as rocks. If she said, I truly had no idea and I took it down, I'm mortified. I would believe her. But she's making it worse.” – Ben (46:31)
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Notable Quote:
“You’re literally saying you’re the victim as you’re screaming, you’re not the victim.” – Ronnie (48:29)
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Ben and Ronnie bring their usual snark, deep Bravo knowledge, and love of absurdity. The tone remains irreverent, sarcastic, and fast-paced, but turns serious when addressing bigotry, calling out both cast and Bravo fan culture for their blind spots and excuses.
This part two recap of the RHOSLC reunion exposes the show’s chaos at every level: from unreliable narration and failed “receipts” to major accusations of anti-Semitism. Ben and Ronnie offer biting commentary throughout, illuminating the reality behind Bravo’s drama and the Housewives' sometimes-comic, sometimes-disturbing inability to accept responsibility. The result is a must-listen companion for Bravo fans who want to go deep (and snarky) into the latest Housewives excesses.