#3182 The Valley Persian Style S1E04: You Give Me The Sweetest Tabbouleh

Summary

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Watch What Crappens #3182 – The Valley Persian Style S1E04: "You Give Me The Sweetest Tabbouleh"

Episode Overview

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dissect the fourth episode of "The Valley: Persian Style," a new Bravo franchise derivative (and spiritual cousin to "Shahs of Sunset"). This recap is a characteristically irreverent, quotable, and deeply Bravo-literate hour of jokes, dramatic impressions, and affectionate mockery. Ben and Ronnie dive into group dynamics, friendship fractures, home decor crimes, and the healing powers of tabbouleh—plus a side of psychic drama.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Valley: Struggling for Attention in Bravo Land

• Ben opens by observing that "The Valley" faces tough odds breaking through social media chatter dominated by "The Traitors" and even a lackluster "Beverly Hills."
  • “The Traitors is such a social media behemoth... I feel bad for this one [The Valley].” (03:10, Ben)
• Ronnie agrees that, despite prominent scheduling, the show risks getting lost, even though he finds it enjoyable so far.

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2. Gigi and Dennis: Drama in a Restaurant with Ugly Tiles

• The episode picks up with Gigi confronting ex-husband Dennis in a restaurant notable for tragic floor tiles stuck on the wall.
  • “Let’s just open a restaurant and get some Home Depot floor tiles—cheapest section possible—and put them on the wall… offensive.” (06:36, Ronnie)
• Ben and Ronnie revel in Gigi’s melodramatic “vibrato” voice, finally naming the style after a decade of impressions.
  • “‘Dennis is always coming around. I just want to get this off my head...’” (05:41, MJ, as Gigi)
• Gigi and Dennis bicker over old hurts, divorce timing, and his new relationship with her (ex-)friend, before pivoting rapidly back to business: their sex toy company, “Intimately Gigi.”
• Ronnie points out the oddity of Gigi caring so deeply about Dennis, given her prior claim she only married him to make another man jealous.
  • “You always thought this guy was ugly… so why are you acting like you’re such a shithead to this guy?” (08:51, Ronnie)
• The argument ends awkwardly but amicably, highlighting the group’s collective distaste for Dennis.

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3. Persian Valley Aesthetics and Home Ownership Realities

• There’s a tangent about Valley architecture and decor: Ben and Ronnie dissect the regional explosion of tasteless 80s/90s design.
• Reza’s “realtor advice” for Sky, who despises living in the Valley, is to never move because of soaring interest rates:
  • “If you have an interest rate that’s less than Baby Shams’s age—four—don’t sell.” (15:21, Sky, imitating Reza)
• Ronnie quips about Reza being an anti-sales realtor who tells people not to buy anything.

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4. Trip Planning: Palm Springs Bound

• The group plans a getaway to Palm Springs for Adam’s birthday.
• Tannen invites everyone, with the stated goal of “ridiculing my husband in front of everyone,” sparking Ben and Ronnie’s amusement (13:11).
• Kids become a subplot, as Amir and Natasha face scorn for wanting to bring theirs—“Way to ruin the vibe right away.” (13:36, Ben)

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5. Real Housewives Crossovers and Interpersonal Baggage

• MJ’s husband, Tommy, is notably absent due to lingering animosity from past violent incidents with Reza, detailed as restraining orders, lawsuits, and friendship breakdowns.
  • “There was a restraining order. Reza was suing. He actually wanted Tommy put in jail… it was really, really bad.” (32:05, Ben)
• Gigi empathizes with MJ, comparing Dennis to Tommy situation, though Ben calls it “an unearned fight.”

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6. Gigi vs. Sky: The Great Weed-Smoking Talk

• Sky confronts Gigi for smoking weed at her house when kids were present. Expectations of a blow-up are subverted—Gigi just calmly apologizes.
  • “Sorry about that.” (38:22, MJ as Gigi)
  • “It was actually a very nice, normal scene amongst adults.” (38:29, Ben)

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7. Emotional Mediumship and Grief on Display

• Tannen arranges for a medium, Tiffany, who delivers surprisingly specific psychic hits:
  • Reza’s childhood Michael Jackson dance routines (44:17, Tiffany/Reza)
  • MJ’s “ring” story
  • Reza’s forced purchase (by his father) of a white BMW—very “Persian” according to Ronnie
• The medium session triggers emotional moments, especially as Amir’s late wife comes through, moving Natasha to tears:
  • “She says you’re a good fit for him… she passed away suddenly.” (47:53, Tiffany)
• Ronnie, always tongue-in-cheek: “How many mediums are we going to have in one week? Enough with all our dead relatives. Just leave me alone.” (48:06)

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8. Palm Springs Arrival: Room Battles, Tabbouleh, and Group Tensions

• Gigi races to get the best room; Sky hates her “yuck room.” Reza throws shade at home decor and group etiquette.
• Adam is obsessed with his tabbouleh and jokes abound about the dish not being Persian:
  • “Can’t wait until someone finally tells Adam that tabbouleh isn’t a Persian dish and watch the blood drain from his face.” (28:21, Ronnie)

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9. Dennis Arrives: Confrontations at Dinner

• Surprise! Gigi orchestrates Dennis’s surprise appearance at group dinner.
• The group unleashes pent-up frustration about his treatment of Gigi and lack of accountability.
  • “I want you to be accountable for today, 2025, also known as 2025. And I don’t want to go back to 2015.” (55:22, Ben as MJ)
• Dennis shrugs off criticism, saying, “At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. That’s the life for people who put floor tiles on the wall.” (09:18, Dennis via Ronnie)
• Crowd is baffled by the ambush and Gigi getting worked up: “Why are you even mad at? You caused all this, and now you’re mad at nothing.” (60:53, Ronnie)
• The episode closes with growing tension between Dennis, Gigi, and the rest, plus a comic digression about drag queens and rainbow cakes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Gigi’s Drama Style
  • “She always talks with, like, a vibrato… Always so dramatic.” (05:08, Ben)
• Ronnie on the Valley Aesthetic
  • “Can I eat in a decent-looking place? Valley.” (07:13, Ronnie)
• Reza as Anti-Realtor
  • “Don’t buy houses. If you have an interest rate that’s less than baby Shams’s age, don’t sell.” (15:10, Reza)
• Medium Shock
  • “She shows me that you did a compilation of Michael Jackson songs. And I see you doing the infamous lean.” (44:17, Tiffany)
• Ronnie on the Group’s Argument with Dennis
  • “This is, like, an unearned fight. We only just learned that they don’t like him, like, ten minutes ago.” (55:22, Ronnie)
• On Tabbouleh
  • “Don’t you want the rush of straight up tabbouleh in your veins?” (28:16, Ben)
  • “Tabbouleh is not a Persian dish… girl better work on some yellow rice.” (28:21, Ronnie)
• Sky on Room Assignments
  • “Of course, for some reason, we get the smallest and the ugliest of the yuck room. Might as well be back home in the Valley.” (34:34, Sky)
• Sky on Dennis’s Surprise
  • “Why are you here? And do you know where there’s an Erewhon?” (57:12, Sky)
• Classic Bravo Meta-Humor
  • “Keep the straight nonsense at home.” (60:25, Sky)
  • “There was a gay rainbow [cake] and it was in the shape of a heart, and the heart had tabbouleh on it.” (60:25, Sky)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:10 – The Valley struggles to compete with “The Traitors” on social media
• 05:08 – Gigi’s vibrato diction and dramatic style
• 06:36 – 07:46 – Restaurant decor rant and “Valley” aesthetic breakdown
• 09:18 – Dennis’s family-versus-ex trope and signature catchphrase
• 14:52 – Sky and Reza discuss homes, Valley real estate
• 15:21 – Iconic anti-real estate advice: the “baby Shams interest rate” joke
• 32:05 – Ben recaps the depth of Tommy and Reza’s feud
• 38:22 – Gigi apologizes calmly for smoking weed at Sky’s house (conflict subversion)
• 44:17 – 44:50 – Medium wins over group with MJ and Michael Jackson dance memory
• 47:53 – Medium comforts Amir and Natasha about late wife
• 51:48 – 52:15 – Adam and Reza celebrate 10th anniversary, tabbouleh joke reprise
• 53:03 – 56:09 – Dinner ambush, group confrontation with Dennis
• 60:25 – Rainbow cake, keeping “straight nonsense at home,” meta-humor highlight

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Overall Tone and Takeaway

Ben and Ronnie bring their signature blend of affectionate ridicule, Bravo-deep-cut references, and improv-style humor. The recap spotlights the petty and poignant sides of “The Valley: Persian Style,” with special attention to the show’s self-mythologizing, group politics, and Valley-specific trauma (both literal—real estate, friendships—and symbolic—ugly tiles, tabbouleh confusion). If you missed the episode, you’ll come away with a sense of both the characters’ dysfunction and the “faux-fixable” comedy that makes these Bravo shows ripe for loving mockery.

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Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ends. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the glorious, hilarious and lovely Ronnie Caram. Hi Ronnie, how's it going?

[Ronnie Caram]

Good, how are you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Great, thanks. We are here to report on the Valley Persian style. Before we get into that, go join us on Patreon. We just recorded our bonus episode of the week about the traitors. We had a lot to say about that. Also Patreon is where you can get ad free. Watch what crappens. If you support there. We have a newsletter that's going to be rolling out soon enough on Patreon and that's free. That's a free thing for everyone. Anyone, anyone and everyone, even if you are not supporting on Patreon. But it's just all going to be there. A little hub of activity. And of course, don't forget, we got the golden crappies coming up at the end of next month. Tickets are at watchwalkrepens.com.com. so here we are, speaking of the Traders. You know, I feel so bad for the Valley, Persian style and to some degree even Beverly Hills, because I think the chatter on the Internet on Fridays, if you go on Twitter or on threads, and I've been going on threads a lot more because you know why? On Threads you can actually label text as spoilers so you can freely talk about things like the traitors and mark things as spoilers. And you're not gonna make people scared to go on there, which is so wonderful. But everyone's talking about the Traders and maybe it's my algorithm, but everyone's talking about the Traders and this poor show, the Valley. I don't know how it's gonna break through when on Friday mornings. There's just no space for it, for online chatter about it, you know.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And they're, you know, they did it a favor by putting it after Beverly Hills. Cause that's one of their biggest shows. But, you know, it's up against the traitors and it's not the most compelling. It's not the most compelling Beverly Hills either. So it's like, yeah, you know, last.

[Ben Mandelker]

Last night on Beverly Hills. There were some like, moments on Beverly Hills last night that I think normally would generate a large amount of Twitter chatter. And I think that got lost too. I think that the, the Traders is such a social media behemoth that it's. I think it's really just hard to launch a brand new show against all that. So I feel bad for this one.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And the Valley's pretty good. I mean, I think they're doing a pretty good job. This is season one, Episode four. It's called Dennis the Menace, which is funny because I've been calling Todd Walter Matthau all week. So always love that. That comes around on Bravo. And we opened where we left off last week with is Gigi having this meeting with this guy she was married to for five minutes and having him come to this restaurant with terrible tiles on the wall that belong on the floor. And then having a fit, even though she knew everything he was going to say.

[Gigi]

And then storming out of the restaurant.

[Reza]

I just need to eat something.

[Sky]

I need to add something.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love, by the way, that you just sort of made that voice. Because one thing I noticed about Gigi last night, which has been there for over a decade. It's always been there. But for some reason, I feel like we've just never noticed it, is how Gigi always talks with, like, a vibrato.

[MJ]

She's like, I am so mad at Dennis. Dennis came and he was talking to me, and I don't know why he came to the restaurant.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, why have we never noticed that? Or why we never articulated that? Gigi always is so dramatic with her.

[Ronnie Caram]

I've been doing it this season because I've noticed it this season, especially when she gets herself all worked up and.

[Gigi]

She'S like, oh, I just can't do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I apologize. I apologize. I didn't notice it in your impersonation because I was just. It was last night. I was like, she is so funny.

[MJ]

She's like, dennis is always coming around. I just want to get this off of my head. And you're acting like it's nothing.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Sky]

Finally, after a decade of Gigi impersonation.

[Ronnie Caram]

So he comes outside, he's like, hey, we so mad about. So why. So I dated you with your. One of your best friends, you know, the week after we got divorced. Like, who cares? Like, whatever. She's not even your friend if she's willing to date me. Like, who cares? Like, lord, get out of here.

[Reza]

I'm going to kill this guy. I'm going to kill this guy.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she's like, just stop. I want to get it off my head. And you're acting like it's nothing. You know, like, she's shaking.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, she's like, can you relax, though? Can you relax, though? Can you relax, though?

[MJ]

She's like, fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they go back inside.

[Ronnie Caram]

They're mopping the walls in there. Just come back in.

[MJ]

I'm.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love your obsession with the T.

[Ronnie Caram]

This restaurant is just so ugly. And, you know, here's my problem, because the Valley gets a lot of shit, right? And I've. Over the years, you know, I lived in not the Valley for 15 years. So now that I'm kind of in the Valley, and I. I really do like it here, but there are certain things that make me crazy, and a lot of it is just style, style. It's like, what happened that the Valley, I guess, was just built in a different time. And it's just like uglier architecture in general. And it's just the restaurants have no taste, are like, good, they just don't look good. And this is like the perfect example of like, let's just open a restaurant and get some Home Depot floor tiles and the cheape section possible and put them on the wall and it's just offensive. Can I eat in a decent looking place? Valley.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I know this is, this is a Valley thing. It's the Valley. It's hard. I mean, there. There are some aesthetically very cool parts of the Valley. Like, there's definitely like a mid century modern thing that is little neighborhoods. Yeah, yeah, there's like, really cool, but there's also these really cool kind of like old motels and bars that like, that's like the best part of the Valley. But there's also just a lot of generic shit that popped up in the 80s and the 90s. And you're like, what is this?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, there's a lot. You can tell there was like a big boom at a certain amount, at a certain time in history. Just that was tasteless, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Tasteless, tasteless boom. Disgusting tasteless boom. Well, let's go back to this tasteless boom restaurant with the tiles on the wall. And he's like, listen to me. He's like, I know you're angry and I'm sorry if I did hurt you.

[MJ]

So you're apologizing for my fucking friend? He' like, yes, just Dennis and I, for the last 13 years, we have.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just been best friends.

[MJ]

And, like, there's no ma. Like, there's no other man that has been in my life, my son's life, other than Dennis. And we were in business together. And we got married for five or six months ago in Vegas and a couple of weeks after that and like, he just got engaged to someone that was my friend. And I haven't seen him since then after 13 years, and he just dumped.

[Ben Mandelker]

Our entire relationship down like, Gigi, no one cares. We've never seen this man before in our lives. We never heard about him. Maybe we did. We just did not. Didn't, like, we didn't like, put him into our. We didn't press command s and save him into our brains. So, like, this whole thing, like, literally don't care about. Just have your margarita, wash the wall and let's move on.

[Ronnie Caram]

Also, you told us all last week that you only married this guy to make another Guy jealous. You always thought this guy was ugly and didn't even like him. And you only married him to piss off the other guy. So why are you acting like you're such a shithead to this guy? And I like that he said that. He's like, you know, he said at some point he said something like, well, you didn't like me. You're saying, he's so ugly, I would never marry him. Why do you even care?

[Gigi]

It's like, but I do, I do, I do.

[Ronnie Caram]

And he's like, look, look, I know that we're family. Like, you would have me back tomorrow. I would have you back tomorrow. Like, cuz we're family, you know, I got your back. And even if I was up at the end of the day, get nothing for nothing. And that's the life of the people who put floor tiles on the wall. I mean, what are you gonna do, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I still consider you a whole family. I love your dad. Eli loves me, Your mother loves me, your sister loves me.

[MJ]

I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Fuck her too, right? I mean, I can't even do your mom's accent right now because, you know.

[MJ]

She'S like, you're lying. I can't take this. Don't do my mom's accent. That's the weight of my heart. No, please don't do it.

[Gigi]

There he comes. Here he comes, right around the corner to me. Do a mom impression and make me love him again.

[Ronnie Caram]

Don't let him do this to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then he's like, look, if we're family, right? Like brothers and sisters fight. Way worse than that, you know, we're like brother and sister. Imagine a brother and sister that got married, but then with a sister only got married to the brother to get revenge on the sister's other brother. And then the brother went and annulled the marriage to have sex with a different sister. That's like family, right?

[Ronnie Caram]

Who doesn't fight with their sister a little bit after for a while. I mean, it's natural.

[Gigi]

She's like, you're. Yeah, I just can't with you. I don't know what else to say. I don't know what else to say to you.

[Ronnie Caram]

And he's like, okay, well, what's the plan then?

[Gigi]

She goes, just go back to work. Let's just not ever talk about anything else again.

[Ronnie Caram]

She kind of starts doing that giggling thing where now she's like flirting with them. I just don't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because they never work.

[Gigi]

Let's talk about work now. Let's talk about. Okay. Intimately. Gigi that was doing amazing.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so then we see their business together, which was selling, you know, vibrators with Gigi's face on it or whatever.

[MJ]

We were selling fives of those every year.

[Reza]

And so Gigi, imagine all the people.

[Gigi]

Just determined to put a dildo with my face on it inside of them. Let's just get back to the real things.

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe that's why she's talking like that.

[MJ]

I'm using my Intimate by Gigi toy right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, Gigi. So, I mean, by the way, these two were never mad at each other in the first place because they're like, okay, we're angry, we're angry, we're angry. And now everything's fine.

[Ronnie Caram]

Let's talk about our vibrator business. Let's get that going again.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. And apparently this is going to be a big issue because. Oh, but guess what? No one likes Dennis. So now we go around the horn to find out what people think about Dennis. And Rez was like, I am not.

[Sky]

Cool with Dennis right now. He hurt my friend Gigi. And when you hurt a friend of.

[Reza]

Mine, you hurt me.

[Sky]

And since I'm not allowed to be mad at Tommy this season, I have to be mad at someone, so I'm going to be mad at Dennis.

[Reza]

If you heard Gigi, you hurt me. Unless it's me hurting Gigi. And then it's just fun. But it also kind of hurts me.

[Sky]

I guess, because Gigi has knives and MJ's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, losing Dennis was a really big, emotional hit for Goldnessa. And yes, it was hilarious for us, but overall, it's problematic for us, too. So, yeah, I don't like Dennis.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And then Natasha's like, I mean, he's a guy. He thinks with his, you know, his duel. So then the check comes, and Dennis says, he's got it.

[Gigi]

She's like, that's right.

[Ronnie Caram]

You do.

[Reza]

You better get it.

[Ronnie Caram]

So he's like, yeah, we both know you're not paying. You got the unicorn wallet? No one's ever seen it. I'm here all night.

[MJ]

I don't get that.

[Gigi]

Unicorns. Let's make a dildo unicorn.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, I think they already got that. God damn it.

[Sky]

God damn it.

[Gigi]

I need to pass something.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we go over to sky and Bombshot's house, and their tannin has invited them to Palm Springs, and basically they're. They're gonna go to Palm Springs. That's the whole thing. This is a trip. And so Tannen's like, you know, we haven't had a trip as a group together, and I think it'd be really wonderful if we, as a group, could be in one place so I can ridicule my husband in front of everyone, and I think we'll just have a great laugh.

[Ronnie Caram]

So then we go to Reza and Adam, and Adam's in the garden in his overalls. He's like, I'm going to Bowie. And he gets a text inviting them to Palm Springs. And then we see Gigi reading part.

[Gigi]

Of her text, and she's like, oh, fuck, yeah, I can make it Palm Springs.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then Amir is saying that they want to go, but are children welcome? No, get a babysitter. I don't know why. Your kids on a trip.

[Ben Mandelker]

Way to ruin the vibe right away.

[Ronnie Caram]

Let's go party our asses off with our friends in Palm Springs. Party central with your kids. God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. No, don't like that. So Sky's talking about how she wants to have a bigger house because she really. She wants to move out of this house a lot. She hates the Valley, by the way. That's the. As we already know. But just to reiterate, she hates the Valley. She's like, look at all this tasteless boom architecture around here. Get me back to Bel Air. So she's like, you know, when I met him, when I met Bombshad, more like bomb shit. Am I right? I said, I will never live in the Valley. It's like, that's true. But we were building and remodeling and flipping homes, and the pandemic came around as a surprise. We're living in the Valley now. She's like, yeah, it was an adjustment for me because, you know, boom shit, architecture. I hate it. And now I'm here, so, oh, God, get me out of this hellhole.

[Ronnie Caram]

He says, it's going to be temporary. So five years later, we're still here. How temporary is this? How temporary is five years? This man puts the bomb in bombshell, am I right? Thank you. And Sky. So she's having Reza. Probably the worst realtor we've ever seen. How does this guy ever sell anything? All he tells people is not to buy things. Have you ever seen a realtor do this?

[Reza]

He's like, hey, listen to me.

[Sky]

Here's what I would do. Never move.

[Reza]

You need to keep what you have. Don't be silly. This is not a time to buy anything. I just told Nessa this. I'm telling everybody. I need to sell houses.

[Sky]

Don't buy houses.

[Reza]

Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

I like that when he wants to emphasize something Reza Plays a small, small piano in front of him. He puts his fingers down and he takes his fingers and goes like this on the table.

[Sky]

He's always like, don't do it. If you have an interest rate that's less than baby shams age 4, don't sell. I still haven't met baby Shams's interest rates.

[Ronnie Caram]

And he's right though, because interest rates are still insane and it on sale. And she's like, okay, but if we spend two and a half million dollars or something.

[Reza]

And he's like, oh, that is so unrealistic. One of GT still does is two and a half million dollars. Okay, listen, there's on Casiano for 2.3 that you would never buy. It's garbage. It's bombshot. That's Farsi for garbage.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, I know I have a low interest rate, but I also have a high boredom rate going on here. I don't care. I will do a 35% interest rate. Get me out of the valley right now.

[Ronnie Caram]

So he's like, that's too much financial pressure. You're an idiot. And he's like, the only house you're.

[Reza]

Going to find is a mixer. Fix her. And she's, you know, she doesn't want that. Something's not mathing. Like, she's not mathing.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's called she hates it. She hates where she is.

[Sky]

See, I'm putting my foot down.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, Raza, you stepped on a tabooli.

[Sky]

Sorry, Adam.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we go over to.

[Ronnie Caram]

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[MJ]

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[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Like, and you don't want to be talking to the medium. And then you start sobbing when she's like, oh, the wife is saying, you know, talking about how you still don't do your dishes, you know, and stuff like that. And it's also awkward for her, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's like you're always living in the shadow of this other person. And it's not like, what do you. What are you gonna do? It's not like you can just pretend that never happened. You know what I mean? But like to have a whole ass family with somebody and them still to be like, oh my God, but what do I do about this feeling for the other? That must be a rough position for her to be in.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's really fascinating actually psychologically, because the way they speak about it is like, if it weren't for her, I never would have met you. So I love you so much. But I also love her for what she did for me. And then like, I understand for him how we can have that duality, but for her, I think it's probably really tricky, which is probably why she she's saying she doesn't want to sit on this because she feels like it's more for a mirror. But I feel like it really does put her in a strange position.

[Ronnie Caram]

It does, because she says at some point, like, we don't really talk about her that much, so. Because he's vocalizing all this stuff now. I mean, there's cameras around, and they're like, okay, you need to talk about this. And so now he's talking about it every episode, all the time. Like, whenever they. You know, like. And he's being open. So I'm not dissing him for doing that. I'm just saying, for her, it's kind of an awkward position. It's like, okay, well, we go from this position where he was coming. He was coming from a really bad place, and now he's gotten to this place, which is a great place, and we have this family, but he's still now constantly talking about this other thing. So it's got to be a mind for her, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So then we go to Reza, and he's having beers with Bombshot and Greg.

[Sky]

And he's like, guys, something is really exciting that's gonna happen is that we're going to surprise Adam in Palm Springs, and we're gonna bring him to the restaurant where we got married.

[Ben Mandelker]

And the guy's like, okay, that's pretty cool. Guess we'll go to a restaurant.

[Reza]

Oh, sorry. Finish.

[Sky]

No, they have nothing left to say. Please speak on my behalf.

[Reza]

Do that. But, like, guys, it's gonna be crazy because it's gonna be this restaurant, and then a drag queen is gonna come deliver a rainbow cake to Adam.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm like, are you even a gay person? Or are you a person pretending to be gay? Because I've never heard of somebody like, okay, a gay person. Here's what we need for my birthday party. A drag queen and a cake with a rainbow on it. Like, it sounds like somebody's mom being like, my kid just came out of the closet. Let's have a birthday party, get a drag queen, get a rainbow cake.

[Ben Mandelker]

Adam loves it. He's like, well, you know, this is. I think this sounds like a perfect thing for Adam. Like, to us. We're like, this is just so on the nose. But, you know, Adam's like, oh, my God, it's a rainbow. Please tell me there's tabouli inside the cake. Is this tabouli with frosting? My favorite.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Bombshot's like, well, okay. Well, it's gay, and it's colorful. I like It. Good trip. Sounds good to me. Is my wife going to be there? Because hopefully you have a mic for her to yell at me and call me a loser. Have I told you she started calling me the bomb? Great.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bomb.com. so then Tannen and Sky are at the gym, and an ongoing. An ongoing runner. So far, these episodes is a growing rift between the two of them. You know, like, they start the season like best friends, but every episode, there's something else that's bothering Tannin about Sky. So Tannen's like, so, are you excited for Palm Springs? She's like, no, not excited at all. I'm the. I'm planning it. I remember how I invited you to my trip. Remember how I said, hey, you know, be really fun is if we go, I'm gonna plan a trip to Palm Springs and you can come. Remember that? Yeah. Oh, that was a disgusting text. I hated the way it was written. God, who writes text like that? Stupid.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, you're right. You have the penmanship of someone who lives in the Valley, I'll tell you that. So then we go to Amir and Natasha, and they're having dinner, and Amir, like, so what do you think about the trip? They talk about it, and. And they talk about bringing the kids. And he's like, well, maybe a hotel would be great. You know, let's leave the kids at the hotel. He's like, okay, well, let's leave them at the hotel. So at least they're doing that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Then everything. They're.

[Gigi]

They're.

[MJ]

They are.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're. They're like. I'm just say, absolved a little bit of wrongdoing with the group trip.

[Ronnie Caram]

Not really, because they bring the kids out every five minutes. It's like, oh, got to feed the kids. This is a party event. There could be coke on the tables. Get the kids out of.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's right. So then we go to MJ and Tommy's, and Gigi is there, and Vita's sort of, like, looking at the kit. Like, not looking at the kit. Well, she is sort of looking at the kids, but Eli is there. All the kids are playing because Natasha also shows up. So Vita is on babysitting duty, and everyone's sitting outside, and mj something. I don't know. I don't understand what happened here, but there's a pizza that's welded onto some cardboard. Did she put the cardboard into the oven with a pizza? Is that what happened?

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, I guess.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know.

[Ronnie Caram]

So they're all outside talking, and the kids are Valley and MJ's like, they're asking where Tommy is. And MJ's like, he went to play the play. He went to watch the playoffs. And the kid sees. We see Vita talking to the kids, and she's like, you know, I prefer being inside because there's air conditioning in there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Great. So outside, she wasn't ridiculing them.

[Sky]

Yeah, like, oh, you got.

[Ben Mandelker]

You got knocked over.

[Sky]

You lost your toy. Boo. Wow. Do you know what I went through?

[Ronnie Caram]

I wish he was telling him. Listen, do you know that you are being babysit by the king, Ping pong champion of the world?

[Sky]

Ping pong champion.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, you're sad. You're sad. You want to go outside? Oh, that is such a load of bs, child.

[Ronnie Caram]

Today I'm going to teach you lipstick. Come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll come out with a bright. With a strong red lip liner.

[Gigi]

So Gigi's like, where's Tommy?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, yeah, he went to play the past. So she's like, yeah, I haven't seen.

[Gigi]

Tommy in 20 million years. Like, where has he been?

[Ronnie Caram]

And they're like, what's the reason that Tommy's not around? You all know the reason that Tommy is not around. Because Tommy was gonna go to jail for almost beating the shit out of Reza. That's why. And it's been going on forever. And I like that. They're like, okay, well, you got over it, so Tommy has to get over it. Different.

[Gigi]

No.

[Ben Mandelker]

Right. I think that Gigi's also, like, I'm friends with Tommy. I'm not Reza. Like, he doesn't have to be scared of me. It's one thing to not want to hang around when Rez is there, but, like, he can come over now. It's just me and Natasha doesn't even know Natasha. Right. And mj.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, but Gigi wasn't great to MJ either. Gigi was really mean to MJ that last couple of years, too. She was teaming up, right, With Reza. She didn't say the abortion stuff, but she was still right there with Reza. So I think Tommy's like, these people. These are toxic, awful, horrible people who ruined your life and tried to ruin our relationship. Relationship. And were completely unsupportive when you needed them the most. I'm not going to be friends with them. That's it. If you want to go shoot your little TV show, go ahead, lady. But I'm not a part of it, which is fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

But also, get a job and that. That too. Natasha asks if Tommy's coming to Palm Springs. And it's like, no, you know, and.

[MJ]

And Gigi's like, so your. Your friends are. Your friends, and his friends are in New York? Is that what you're saying?

[Ben Mandelker]

And MJ's like, yeah, well, I mean, he likes you a lot, so.

[MJ]

Well, then why the doesn't he come around, my man?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, like, come around here? And he's basically like, you know, Gigi's like, yeah, it's. That's, you know, like, I get to be with him on the week, you know, I'll be the 11th the wheel once again this weekend. And when I'm with Tommy, you know, like, you know, we share a bed together, and, you know, but for, you know, and he's great, but at the same time, I don't get any doting, I don't get any affection. I don't get a hand on my ass or a kiss on the cheek. And we used to be so into each other, and now, like, whenever he's home, he's just distancing, and, like, there's no bonding, and it's sad.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So then she's like, well, what about his past with Resin Adam? And MJ says, yeah, you know, I think he can be cordial.

[Gigi]

And Gigi's like, but why can't he re. Establish something or not have to establish something, Mercedes? But, like, he needs to be there by your side because he knows that you want him to be at that moment. So, like, why won't he be there?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, no, it's just. It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

[Ronnie Caram]

And.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Gigi is saying how this really seems to be affecting Mercedes, and it reminds. She goes.

[MJ]

And it reminds me of my situation. My friends, they all know Dennis. So when. When that happened to me, it happened.

[Ronnie Caram]

To all of us.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I need to let them know.

[MJ]

That, like, he's sort of back in the picture.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I just don't know what to do. I was like, this has nothing to do with Dennis. And the Dennis situation was so petty and stupid, and it was like a. This is like a marriage that was, like, built on, like, a lot of love that is being torn apart by reality tv. And yours was a marriage for reality tv, basically, without the cameras. Yeah, exactly.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so she's like, yeah, I have.

[Gigi]

To let them know, like, he's back in the picture, but I just don't.

[Ronnie Caram]

Know how to do it. And so they all cheers the. The weekend, and then we go to. Wait. What happened with the kids? Gigi started.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, so what. Basically, the Kids. The kids were playing outside, and Natasha's like, roman, Roman, don't do that. That's not how we do that in someone else's house. And then Sham's like, it's okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

He can do it anyway. Get away.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, oh, okay, sorry. So now we go to Reza and Adam, and they're packing, and Adam's like, I'm gonna bring our wood cutting board because I want this to be a wild vacation. We're bringing cutting boards, guys.

[Reza]

Let's get bringing a cutting board. But like, what the heck? Who brings a cutting board on a vacation, Honey?

[Ben Mandelker]

Tabooli, man. Tabooli.

[Reza]

Oh, God. Jesus Christ with the tabbouleh.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't you want the rush of straight up tabouli in your veins?

[Ronnie Caram]

I can't wait until someone this season finally tells Adam that tabbouleh is not a Persian dish. And just watch the. Watch the blood drain out of his face because Reza is apparently too nice to tell him, but girl better work on some yellow rice.

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[Ben Mandelker]

So now they're driving and they're heading out to Palm Springs. And Sky. Sky really wants good airwash.

[MJ]

Like, so we're going to Erawan. So question. Instead of Palm Springs, why don't we.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just all go to Erawan and then go home after 45 minutes? That seems like fun time, right?

[Ronnie Caram]

She's like, we're not going to Erwan, okay? And they're like, well, what did Greg drive? Why isn't Greg with us? And she's like, he's in the Porsche, the GT3. And he's like, oh, I'm gonna come back with him. That sounds good to me.

[Gigi]

I'll go in the guy car.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Tannen's like, yeah, I'm driving a sky in Bombshad because Greg Arting went to Palm Springs to set everything up. And, I mean, we just argue all the time when he's driving. I can't do it. Like, I will not drive with him. I just drive myself anyway, so whatever. We're even with this guy. And isn't the Porsche, your new car that he got you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but apparently Greg complains all the time when they're driving, so Sky's like, by the way, do you think I should just bring up the gold NASA situation?

[MJ]

Should I talk to her about it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Because she likes smoked weed at my house, and I just don't want her to act weird or lose her cool, you know? And then we see Gigi's driving with MJ and. And Reza Jackson, and Gigi is saying.

[MJ]

She's like, oh, my God, I hate it when people don't use their blinkers, okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, which is funny because I never would have seen Gigi as someone as, like, adherent to blinker etiquette.

[MJ]

I would have think she'd be like, whatever. I was changing my lanes. I think that people would, like, understand that.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she's like, they didn't use their blinker. God damn it.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now Adam and Reza are driving their car, and they're talking about Tommy. Adam's like, did you see when Tommy when we left? Because I went up and I said hello to him, and then I gave him, like, a little shoulder bump because his hands were full.

[Reza]

Oh, wow. That's very sweet of you, my love.

[Ronnie Caram]

But do you see the tension in Rets's face?

[Reza]

Like, oh, my God, do not make me be friends with Tommy again, please.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, well, I hope it was a nice icebreaker for him to feel comfortable to come and hang out with us at some point. I even told him, listen, we changed all of our potted plants in the front. Now they're in. Now they're in rubber pots. So if you can throw them all you want and they'll just bounce.

[Ben Mandelker]

Speaking of icebreakers, could we just pull over to get some ice? My shoulder's a little sore from that shoulder bump. It hurts.

[Ronnie Caram]

That was. He's really rough. So, Gigi, MJ and Reza Jackson in their car.

[Gigi]

Yeah. When Tommy was dropping you off, I was just shocked to see Adam go out of his way and say, hey, Tommy. And then they bumped elbows. I was like, oh, my God. No one even used a blinker for that. They could have hurt somebody.

[MJ]

But it also was, like, a little weird that when Adam bumped shoulders with Tommy, Adam went, gigi, no. I was like, I wasn't even touching you. He must have ptsd.

[Gigi]

Then he started hitting himself in the face with the thorn edge of roses. It was really weird. I don't know what's up with that guy.

[Ben Mandelker]

MJ is. MJ's saying that she's never. She doesn't really know what sort of fear and anxiety Reza carries about this reconciliation with Tommy or whatever, because that, you know, it was so dark for. Especially for people who really don't. Didn't watch those last few seasons. There was a restraining order. Reza was suing. He actually wanted Tommy to get put in jail. It was felony counts. Etc. It was. It was really, really bad. And the things that Reza said that preceded it were horrible things. So it was. It was a dark and terrible, you know, nadir for these two friends. And so MJ is just saying, like, she just wishes someone or something that I could just toss him in the ring and be like, bro, it's gonna be okay. She basically is saying, I know. Like, if just get together with Reza and, like, you'll see, it's okay, and then we can build from there and we'll let bygones be bygones. And she goes, and there's a beautiful pot of gold on the other side of the rainbow. Actually, we swap that with a pot of tabouli. I hope that's okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now everybody gets to Palm Springs, and the kids are there, and they all start going in and picking rooms and stuff. And of course, Gigi runs in first and gets the biggest room for herself. And Reza is putting jalapenos in a beer. He's putting an entire jalapeno in a beer. I mean, this guy's bold, and it is bold, and.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we also, by the way, I. There's something that I would like to get to the bottom of that I feel like is never explained, and maybe I missed it. So maybe you can clarify this for me. Why does Reza have a big yellow stain in the middle of his white shirt for the whole episode? What happened? Bravo is so good about continuity. Do we know what got spilled? Was there a mustard incident on the road? Did you see that yellow stain? It was driving me nuts.

[Ronnie Caram]

I didn't notice. No.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God. Right in the center of a shirt. I was like, something spilled. We need to get to the bottom of this. Reza does not walk around with us with a yellow stain on his outfit ever.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't know. Rez has changed. You know, we saw his kitchen.

[Ben Mandelker]

No chevron.

[Ronnie Caram]

No chevron.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just lines.

[Ronnie Caram]

Something's going on.

[Sky]

Straight lines. No more angered lines.

[Ronnie Caram]

This is the week that gays are getting attacked for their kitchens on Bravo, too. Because, I mean, we're the ones doing it. I'm the one doing it on this show. But then there was Southern charm, that storyline this week. So it's like, it's a big time. Gays, get your kitchens in order. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

We'll never media award. Yeah, you're really holding our fellow gays.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't think we had a chance. Yeah, we didn't have a chance of that anyway. So Skye's like, oh, of course. For some reason we get the smallest and the ugliest of the yuck room. It's the yuck room. That's where we live. We might as well be back home in the Valley.

[Ben Mandelker]

She hates it because she walks in, she's like, ugh, it smells in here. And 10's like, I mean, even if it smells terrible, to say it right away when you walk in. She is just stupid. She's very, very stupid. And Reza's like, if my friend had.

[Sky]

Set up a trip to Palm Springs and invited me and I wasn't paying for the house, I wouldn't lead with complaints.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, you would, Reza. 100%.

[Sky]

You'd be like, bitches be like, getting bad Airbnb, where the B and B stands for bitches. Not buying good homes. Am I right? Bitches be getting bad BnBs.

[Reza]

What are you putting me in a rest stop bathroom? Is that like the bedroom that I'm getting on this trip? Is my pillow gonna be a urinal cake? Like, what's going on?

[Sky]

Palm Springs is so special to us, and you would get this awful, shitty home. I hate it. But we are family and we will get through it. I love all of you guys here, even if you are paying high interest rates against my advice.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Bombshot is getting hangry and he's just searching for any food that he can get. And RJ is like, so how was your. How was your car ride? Was it like the same vibe? Like, what was your car ride like? Like, was it good? Like, tell me all about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tannen is traumatized by riding with Bombshot inside the car because he is a complainy, complainy backseat driver. He's like, when are we there? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Can we get food? Can we go? No. Can we go to Fuddruckers? No. Can we go to Target? No. Can we go anywhere? I'm bored. I'm bored.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now MJ is wishing Adam a happy birthday in the bedroom. They're gonna do some birthday shots.

[Gigi]

And Gigi's like, I have a question because the kids are in the back. Like, is there another area or like, an outside area where I can go in this house to, like, maybe have.

[Ronnie Caram]

A smoke or something?

[Gigi]

Because I really need to have a smoke. There were so many people on the road who really don't know how to make turns.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Sky. Sky tells her to go to the front. There's a swing that she could go on. And then she tells us, I am a strong woman, and strong woman don't need to do catfake reading. Don't do that. I'm not scared of anyone. I'm like, I don't think this was a cat fight moment, but that's fine.

[Ronnie Caram]

But then she goes, because she's going to confront Gigi, and she knows that confronting Gigi can lead to a knife fight. So she's like, I'm gonna confront her, and I'm not gonna fight. So she goes out, and Gigi's calm. She got Gigi in, like, a good mood, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, smoking a blums.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, well, that could still go anyway with Gigi. Gigi says that calms her down, but we haven't really seen a ton of proof that that's the truth. So sky goes out like, I would love to share something with you. Hate the Valley, hate my husband, but otherwise, you know, last time you came to my house, kids were upstairs and you were smoking weed.

[Gigi]

And she's like, I do want you to know that whether it's about me or whether it's about me smoking weed or whether it's about me having a dildo business that does really well or my only fans or whatever it is, you can talk to me. Like, even if you're just constipated, like, I'm a very easy person to talk to, okay? And I respond well to honesty and openness with people. But, you know, I'm sorry. Like, I just wasn't paying attention.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it was. It was actually shocking. Well, first of all, I mean, everything Gigi's saying is true. She's been very well documented about being easy to talk to and responding very well to honesty and confrontation. She's just great with that. But what was shocking was she goes.

[MJ]

But sorry about that.

[Ronnie Caram]

I was like, whoa, that is something we've never heard.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was just like a normal. It was actually like a very nice, normal scene amongst adults, which is like, oh, yeah, sorry about that. My bad. And then everything was fine. So then Sky's like, well, for some.

[MJ]

Reason, I thought you were going to lose your cool. She's like, no, I don't lose my cool with people being honest and straightforward. I lose my cool with people being fake and bullshit and lying and talking behind my back and those Types of things. I'm smoking weed. I got the munchies. Let's go back inside. I'm cool.

[Ben Mandelker]

Gigi.

[Gigi]

Today, just wait, because I don't know if you've seen the previews yet, but I really eat you a new one soon, so go back and enjoy your comfort while you think you have it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe she's on the behavior because she knows she's going to ambush everyone with Dennis later in the evening.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, maybe. Yeah. She's already got her drama planned out for the evening.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now inside, Adam's like, guys, to bully Jesus.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Reza's like, guys, hopefully before.

[Sky]

The end of the trip, it's gonna be Reza, Jax, and Ganessa, Jax, you guys should have sex.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then, you know, Gigi and Sky come back in. They pretend like they were having a fight, but, like, they didn't have a fight. Guys. And 10 and goes. Guys, can I quickly say something? Okay. I just have, like, a little surprise coming in. It's a tide stick for Reza. Okay, everyone, gather round. We're gonna do this together as a family. All right, let's fix that. That shirt.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so she talks about how she wanted. She's been wanting to connect with a medium since her father passed away. And so she heard about this amazing medium and got her off Instagram. So let's see what happens. And then she announces that there's going to be a medium. And Natasha's like, oh, God, I don't know that Amir is expecting this. I don't know that this is exactly the right time to do this. And he's like, yeah, I don't want to be emotionally triggered, so can I say something?

[Reza]

No.

[Gigi]

To. To the people who will potentially have sex tonight, I brought pineapple juice for all of you because that makes your. Your vagina smell good. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

And RJ's, like, amazing.

[Sky]

Oh, go message.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then. Then they start dancing, and then there's, like, some guacamole happening. And Reza makes some guac for or mj and they're gonna go have, like, a whole talk. And Reza saying, like, mercedes and I.

[Sky]

Have been friends since we were teenagers, and she started going to Beverly Hills High School. And I was like, it's love at first sight. I can't wait to undermine this girl for the rest of our lives.

[Reza]

I can't wait to outer for forging checks. You know, it was instantly super close. I had a lot of regrets. I wish I could turn back time, and I wish Merce had never fought with me. But, you know, it did And I'm hot headed and my dad had a temper and I'm a Leo. So, like, get over it, you know?

[Ronnie Caram]

So MJ is like, okay, look, you know, Tommy dropped me off and I just want the opportunity for you guys to be like, hey, what's up?

[Sky]

Well, if I see him come around, I want to, like, avoid him because I feel like I don't want to trigger him.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, yeah, but like, like, I don't think he does have that animosity. But he's like, very much on an island. I was like, by the way, mj, just want to just revise that a little bit. He does have that animosity. He really does.

[Ronnie Caram]

He 100% has the animosity. Yeah. What part of.

[Tommy]

I hate that and I never want.

[Ronnie Caram]

To see him again. It's not animosity.

[Tommy]

I want to break his skull.

[Sky]

So.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. But I just have a wish that everybody can get along. We can have an ice breaking ceremony.

[Reza]

And he's like, well, do you think it's just breaking the ice so we can tolerate it or do you think Tommy's open to being friends?

[Sky]

Because that's a big deal.

[Reza]

Like, one day I would like to tell Tommy, don't buy property in Los Angeles with me.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, yeah, no, just icebreaker. That's toleration. Let's just shoot for toleration. And she's, she also says stuff about like, all his friends are in Queens. So, like, he's alone and he's hard and you're a skittle and da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

[MJ]

And he's.

[Sky]

I'm not in a negative place with Tommy and I don't have any ill will, even though he did break a cactus, which was expensive. Huh? But I've moved on and my ultimate wish is obviously to be in a better place. And I see Mercedes living her life as a single married woman. And if it takes me putting myself in a difficult, uncomfortable situation, I guess that's what has to be done, because I am a martyr.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And he cries and he says that watching her care for her dad helped her.

[Gigi]

And watching you as a wife and a mother and a businesswoman and someone who can eat tabouli and not tell my husband. It's not even person.

[Sky]

You're such a good person. You're such a good person.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stuff is happening. Stuff is happening in the kitchen. Everyone's playing around. It's like sort of fun and games and everything. And now everyone gathers in, in the living room because the medium is going to come in. And the lady comes in, and her name is Tiffany. And so she is. First thing she says is, I'm getting a strong female energy, which is a bit open. There's a bit of a vagary there. So RJ's like, oh, maybe it's my grandmother. And she's like. And then she starts saying, you are a natural entertainer. She's like, do you dance professionally or did you dance professionally? He's like, oh, get out of here. Wow, that's crazy. And she's saying, yeah, I'm getting a sense of a Michael Jackson song. And I see you doing that infamous lean. You're leaning in. Did you practice doing that?

[Ronnie Caram]

And yeah, she literally says, she shows me that you did a compilation of Michael Jackson songs. And I see you do me doing the infamous lean. I mean, that's pretty crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was so specific. And I was like, okay. And then he goes, yeah, actually, my dad created an apparatus with our hands where I could put my feet in and I could lean forward so I could do the lean. I was like, okay, this is crazy, because I don't believe that that's something that you Google. And I don't feel like he's like, I don't think this is a situation we told one person, and the person told the producer. Unless maybe it's a story he told the producers, and the producers told the psychic. But that's crazy.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, that was nuts. And then they make him do the Michael Jackson dance and stuff. So he does that. And so Tiffany's like, okay, you, mj, I think it's your dad. And I'm seeing rings. And she's like, oh, my God. My dad gave me a ring, and I gave it to my son. And I was like, you can't take this out of the house. But then he did take it out of the house, and he lost the ring. And then he cried, and he cried for like an hour and a half, and then it ended up being in his shoe, and it wasn't even lost. She goes, no, no, no. A ring. Camera. Tommy is throwing a plant.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then she looks at Reza. She's. And Reza, your dad has passed as well. Were you the first in your family to get a white car?

[Sky]

He's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then he tells a story about how he wanted a convertible. He wanted a black BMW. And his dad was like, you're getting a white five three five I.

[Sky]

He forced me to get a white car. How did you know?

[Ronnie Caram]

And that, for anybody who does not know, is very Persian. It's a very Persian thing to have a white BMW or white Mercedes. Especially Mercedes. My friend Mike, who's Persian, one of my besties, is always. We're always talking about that and laughing because all his friends show up every time we have a big event. And it's. All his Persian friends come. It's all like, these white Mercedes and BMWs pulling up.

[Ben Mandelker]

So funny.

[Sky]

It's like.

[Reza]

He made me get a white wine.

[Sky]

I didn't even want one.

[Reza]

And he said, black, no white. That's so Persian.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So he's basically. He says that his dad had dementia. And so, like, you know, it's nice. He feels comforted thinking or imagining that his dad is in a better place, in a better state and channeling through this medium. I told you so about the car.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then now it's time to talk about tannin. And Tiffany is saying her. This is more generic. She's saying, like, well, I know you guys didn't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but you need to know he loved you, and you're always Daddy's girl. I was like, okay, that one, that was like, whatever. That's classic psychic stuff. Like, that one was not as exciting to me, but the others were great.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then she gets to Omir finally, so she's like, I feel a strong energy coming from you. And Natasha starts crying, and she's like, okay, it was a sudden passing, and I think it's a younger female suddenly passing. And Natasha's getting nervous, and Tiffany says. And when she comes through, she just says, you need to know how much I love you. And I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go when I did. And everyone's crying now. And now she's acknowledging a wedding. Is this your wife? And he's like, yeah. And she goes, because she loves you. She loves you. She thinks you're a great wife. And she says, you're a good fit for him. And she's also showing me that it was unexpected when she passed. And he said that, yeah, she had cancer, but it wasn't like a hospital bed or anything. She just, like, collapsed and passed away.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. That's so sad. And I mean, this is all. This is very nice. And then she's saying, like, the. I'm getting something about a giraffe. Like, does your daughter like giraffes? And, like, the daughter loves giraffes. This is the. The.

[Gigi]

The.

[Ronnie Caram]

The.

[Ben Mandelker]

The dead wife playing with the daughter through the giraffe and everything. It's all. It's like, they're like, everyone's, like, crying, and I'm sitting there watching. Like, I was like, I was practically crying too, and I wasn't because I.

[Ronnie Caram]

Was like, how many mediums are we going to have in one week? Enough. Enough with all of our dead relatives. Just leave me alone.

[Gigi]

I'm watching.

[Ronnie Caram]

Watching Bravo. Can I enjoy myself? Can we fight each other now? What the.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, it was just. It was sort of all this stuff. Like, she's telling me, like, I'm with you. I'm happy. I'm proud of you. This was also actually a bit like standard psychic stuff. Like, I'm proud of you. I love your choices. You're doing the right things. I'm with you. And. But you can see it's, like, very comforting to them. And it's still, like, a very. An emotional situation to be in. And when he said that, like, she just, like, collapsed and died. That was so heartbreaking. So there's, like, hugs.

[Ronnie Caram]

I like when she was like, guys, I'm seeing someone through. This is for someone named Tree. I don't know, but it's an older man, and he's saying, give me back my pajamas. Wrong show. Wrong show. Okay. It's just like a general bravo.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nono just accidentally winds up.

[Sky]

He's like, I chatted the wrong person.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's waving an octopus in the air. I'm not sure it there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Took a wrong turn. Sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, so now there is a song.

[Reza]

Playing once you go person, baby. Ain't no other version, which I like.

[Ronnie Caram]

And now MJ FaceTimes Tommy. And he's like, yeah, I'm having the best time. Like, just play awesome with the kid. She's like, yeah, but what you. You're home relaxing. I'm just, like, trying to say Reza. And I got to a place where it's respectful and maybe like, there's an icebreaker coming. And he's like, nah, this is where I am. I'm at. I'm hanging with my kid, all right? I ain't doing nothing beyond this, so forget it. She's like, but you can forgive each other. He's like, nah, Love ya. Hope you have fun. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow. I'm gonna watch this movie with my kid. Leave me the fuck alone.

[Tommy]

Reza has a level of comfortability that he talks to my wife in public that I just don't accept. I'd rather not partake. For me on Monday, you said terrible things, but Tuesday, we're gonna go to lunch. That's not how I operate because I have lunch plans with Vita where I say, you're crazy. Vita. Okay, so lunch is off the table. I'll always keep them at arm's length. And I'm talking big arms, like Mr. Met kind of arms. That's just me. That's how I operate. I already got one crazy.

[Ronnie Caram]

I already got one crazy lady in my life. I don't need two, all right? Leave me alone. So then MJ is about to cry over it, and then we see Gigi coming out already and RJ being like, oh, yeah, yeah, so hot. Like, guys, I'm not believing you two. Just don't even try for the show. It's not. It's not worth it. Nobody needs it. So now we go to dinner. It's Adam's birthday. They give him a cheers. And the guys are wondering who's got the good cologne because the entire restaurant's turning around to smell it. And Greg's like, oh, yeah. I have a natural pheromone that lures women in. They call me at 2 in the morning.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tannins. Like, it's a pheromone called gross. That's what it's called. So Adam's like, by the way, is anything happening with you and R.J. gigi? Oh, my God. Like, I ship you guys, and she's.

[MJ]

Just like, we're in palm springs. It's 127 degrees. Like, I cannot even think about this man right now. And Rez is like, yeah, but what.

[Sky]

Does that have to do with RJ nibbling on your titties?

[Ben Mandelker]

So they get to this restaurant. 8, 4, 9. This is where they got married. And Adam's like, so this year, Raz and I will be married for 10 years, and we'll be together for 15 and making tabouli for three. So it's a really special anniversary for us.

[Sky]

He brings out the best in me. Like, he has the best temperaments. Like, if we were. If I were married to me me, we'd be, like, shooting a daylight special. But, like, one of us would be in jail, and, like, the other one would be, like. Would be dead because I killed the other me. And other me wins over other me. Oh, my God, Be winning.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Gigi's been calling Natasha, and she's not answering. And they're like, she's got babies. Leave her alone. And Reza's like, oh, my God.

[Reza]

I'm seriously impressed. She's got three under six. I'm gonna say that a lot because.

[Sky]

It'S the Valley, and they're the nice couple. Three under six.

[MJ]

So Gigi's like, you guys, the medium went in on the situation with, like, a mirror. Like, I. Like, I wanted to hug him, like, so many times.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they start talking about that and everything. All of a sudden, you hear this, like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And it's. Dennis has walked in, and he's surprising them. And since no one's looking at him, he literally raps on the table, and they're like, whoa. It was like, the traders. Someone coming in at breakfast.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, oh, oh, I got a bag full of dildos here. Who wants one? Like, oh, God, where'd this guy come from? And at first they're thinking, he just happens to be in Palm Springs.

[Reza]

And Reza's like, what the is he doing here? Like, Dennis and Ghulnessa got married, and.

[Sky]

Then there was a huge betrayal.

[Reza]

He bought a house at 7% interest.

[MJ]

He didn't use his blinker. But I got over it, so they.

[Ben Mandelker]

Need to get over it. And RJ is like. She paints this whole paint. He paints this whole picture of Dennis being the villain, but, like, she's also the villain. And she admitted to hooking up with Dennis just to get back at her ex. So they're just playing each other's games.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wow. So he joins them for dinner, and they're like, what the fuck is this guy doing? So, like, so you just came up, and they're like, so is this all it takes? School, NASA? I mean, what the hell? He sends you a Mother's Day text. That's all you need?

[Gigi]

And she's like, no. I mean, yeah, I did. But then I started unloading on him, and I went outside, and I threatened to punch a wall. And, you know, then we went back inside, and they were mopping the other walls, and we've talked in person, and it all worked out.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, were you as surprised as I was that Dennis had hair? I just assumed he was bald. There was part of me that wonders, is that, like, a unit that he has on top of his head? Because it kind of looks like focaccia. It literally looks like. Like a nice, like. Like brown focaccia on his head. Walking around, you know, it might be.

[Ronnie Caram]

Because I think he's, like, drawing in his eyebrows. Like, there's. There's a lot odd going on with this guy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, so. So MJ's like, as someone who cares about Gonessa, I don't like the way you stepped in and out of her life so quickly without any explanation, because, like, I've been there, you with you, Dennis, since Elijah's third, fourth birthday. And that's what I'm talking about. I want you to know the reason it was easy for me to ice you out and ghost you you is because I thought what you did to Gold Nestle was cruel. So for you to just slide into this dinner spot with us is zero accountabilities. And, yeah, I did learn how to call someone out at a table on the traders. Congratulations. It's new mj.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, well, I mean, come on. But let me ask you something. Were you there for the first 13 years when she was horrible to me and was she treating me like shit? Where were you guys? Oh, then why'd you marry her? Shut up. And they're not your friends.

[Gigi]

And Gigi's like, I was not treating you like shit for 13 years.

[Ronnie Caram]

And he's like, hold on, Gigi, hold on. Let me take care of this. This.

[Reza]

And R goes, but she's my homie. Like, I'm not your homie. Why am I going to stick up for you? Like, if she commits a crime? And, like, I'm in the courtroom, she's my homie. Like, I either forgot I was looking the other way when the gun went off. Like, what?

[Ben Mandelker]

MJ's like, I want you to be accountable for today, 2025, also known as 2025. And I don't want to go back to 2015. He's like, why? Because I don't like the way that you're casual and unaccountable for the things that you were doing to people that you claim to care about. And he's like, okay, that's how you feel? I don't feel that way. I see that. It's just funny because they're having a whole confrontation with this guy. But, like, to us as the viewers, this is like an unearned fight. And we're just like, oh, this is the guy who's sitting here. And they're already just like. They're like. They're telling him how it is. They're sassing him off. But, like, we only just learned that they don't like him, like, 10 minutes ago. So I'm like, okay, I guess we're supposed to be fired up by this.

[Gigi]

And Gigi's like, well, 127 of me is enjoying all of this because it's like a you to Dennis. And it's like, for him to understand.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, I'm not the only one who.

[Gigi]

Thinks it was fucked up.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Dennis is like, look, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And that's all you can say for the life of people with wigs on their head. And I still don't feel what I did was wrong. I mean, that girl wasn't a friend, so who cares if I fucked her?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, what an idiot this guy is.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, completely missing the point. So MJ's like, okay, but you still left her. And he's like, so then she goes, so you got together with somebody two seconds later, okay, and then you shacked up, and then you put rings on Instagram. I mean, the way you look for the gram, that's something else. And that's coming from a Shaw. And what does marriage mean to you? That you get engaged four times in one year?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, honestly, I don't even care. That's my understanding. There you go. That's it. That's all it is. It's like.

[MJ]

And Gigi's like, what?

[Ben Mandelker]

So everyone's horrified that. That he doesn't even care about this. And MJ goes, that's what the problem is. And sky is like, my question is, why are you here? I know why I'm here. I got dragged here, and for a moment I thought it might actually be better than the fucking Valley, but it's actually worse. But why did you choose to come join us? And who are you even?

[Ronnie Caram]

Why are you here? And do you know where there's an Erwan?

[Ben Mandelker]

If you're leaving soon, can I bum a ride with you?

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, look, you guys have been asking me questions. I already had this conversation with GOL Nessa, and RJ's like, wait, hold on. She knew you were coming? Yes. Dummy, are you just.

[Gigi]

Hello?

[Ronnie Caram]

So they're like, all appalled.

[Reza]

And Rez is like, you're gonna bring Dennis and not tell anybody? Are you nuts? Like, it was my husband's birthday. You know how big of a deal this was gonna be for me? Like, I'm pissed. Like, this is crazy. You almost ruins Adam. Happy Tabouli Day.

[Sky]

You almost ruined Adam's non milestone birthday at a restaurant where he got a cake with nice frosting.

[Ben Mandelker]

Adam's like, I'm kind of bothered you didn't tell me this was coming because I would have made a larger bowl of tabbouleh.

[MJ]

And she's like, well, I didn't want to tell anybody because I wanted to have a scene. He's back in my life and we're going to start working, and at some point, he has to come across to all of you and he has to address you and Reza and MJ at some point, and I thought this would be the moment that we would do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now they're like, oh, my God. But Amir and Natasha show up, and they're like, the nice ones. So it's like, okay. So Gigi starts, like, they change the. The vibe changes.

[MJ]

And Gigi's like, you guys are like, goals for marriage. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then they realize that, like, there's tension at the table. So Mir's like, oh, my God, we came at the worst time. And then 10's like, no, no, you came at a good time. There's some stupid persons at the end of the table with focaccia on his head starting. But, like, honestly, it's really boring.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So out comes the drag queen with the rainbow cake, and they sing Birthday the birthday song to him and stuff.

[Gigi]

And Gigi's like, oh, my God, you guys. If he smashes the cake in Dennis's face, will that be good payback? Like, should we do that?

[Ronnie Caram]

And RJ's like, don't do that. That's aggressive, Dennis.

[Reza]

Like, I feel like how I feel, because she was so hurt, and I experienced her hurt. She slashed my tires when she was mad at you.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, I understand that, but you guys ambushed me.

[Sky]

He's like, no, we didn't ambush you. You ambushed us. Look, I'm bouncing in my chair like Baby Shams was when he was 1 years old and I didn't get to see him.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, if she's okay with me being here, then you guys should be okay. And MJ's like, no, it's not okay. So Gigi says, well, I think that.

[Gigi]

They need to realize that you're going to be back in my life, whether we're working friends or whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

We are are.

[Gigi]

And what I'm asking you is if you're comfortable with me telling them my side of this, since you already got to tell your side. Now I want to tell my side, man.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't want you piping in because.

[Gigi]

You'Re gonna start piping in if you start telling your side, and I'm not gonna be able to take you piping now.

[Ronnie Caram]

Gigi's getting herself all worked up or nothing. That's just mad.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's. And so. He's like, so. And now are you comfortable?

[Sky]

She goes, it's either a yes or no.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, what are you.

[Sky]

What is happening?

[Ben Mandelker]

Why are you so screaming about this? And the drag queen's like, so Dennis Is like, okay, well tell your side first so you don't retaliate on what I said because I don't want you to go piggybacking off what I'm saying. Cuz like you say you're first and I'm always the retaliation bro. So go whatever. They're best like, you go first.

[MJ]

No, you go first because I don't want you to have to say what I said.

[Sky]

Like, did you not see the cake? There was a gay rainbow and it was in the shape of a heart and the heart had tabouli on it. It a drag queen brought it. This is sacrilegious. Keep the straight nonsense at home.

[Gigi]

And she's just like, I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. I just want to smoke. I just want to smoke.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, what are you even mad at?

[Gigi]

You're though. You're. You caused all this and now you're.

[Ronnie Caram]

Mad at nothing, you crazy pants.

[Ben Mandelker]

Two bit improv scene. That was happening.

[Ronnie Caram]

So that's where she says she's mad because Dennis won't take accountability. I'm like, neither will you, you weirdo. My God, she's so annoying. But you know, she's keeping it moving, I guess.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's trying. She's trying. But yeah, that was the episode. So yeah, we'll see what happens next. Well, next week they get into a car accident while they go racing cars. So great. We'll see how that turns out. Thanks everyone for being here. We love you all. Have a great weekend. Go check out our Patreon and go buy tickets to the crappies and we'll talk to you again on Monday. Bye. Watch what crap INS would like to.

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