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Ben Mandelker
Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much.
Ronnie Karam
That happens?
Ben Mandelker
Hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker here. Joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. How's it going, Ronnie?
Ronnie Karam
Well, hello. Good. What's going on with you?
Ben Mandelker
Not much. Today we are talking about the Below Deck med season finale. You know, it's been.
Ronnie Karam
Thank you.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I know. Like, thank, thank goodness to be able to, to watch that stupid show these days because the news is horrific. We got a lot of people who were, who thanked us over the weekend, like, thank you so much for distracting me during these crazy times. And that's what we are really trying to do, is provide a haven for distractions. But sometimes the truth is we just, like, you can only tune out the outside world so much and like, it's just, it's. It's despicable what's happening out there. I'm horrified, honestly, by everything that's happening with ice. Horrified by the murder of Alex Pretty and Renee Good, Keith Porter and the six other people who've been murdered. I think this, this, this, this agency is absolutely.
Ronnie Karam
Others control. Jesus Christ.
Ben Mandelker
Isn't that crazy? I have a friend in Minnesota, her nephew.
Ronnie Karam
It's crazy that we're all just kind of standing around. I mean, I don't even know what to do at this point about it. It's like, raise money, donated, complain, you know, I mean, I'm donating too, but it's like, what do you do? It's like you donate your money. Like, what, what do you do? I mean, one of them was up there yesterday. One of the military ICE people was giving a speech yesterday. Like, you speak out against this and you say stuff against this and we, I think we've seen the consequences of that. Yeah, you're murdering people. Like, yeah, well, don't. What are you supposed to do?
Ben Mandelker
You know, don't and. Yeah, and don't gaslight us, okay? We, we are professional examiners of gaslighting. We watch the Real Housewives, so we know when it's happening, okay? And don't do it. Don't do it to us because we have eyes and ears. And that's like, one thing that's just absolutely, you know, a really, like, sickening side effect of all this is that we. That not only is this agency out of control, they've been here in la, they've been to many people's cities, and we're seeing firsthand people that we know who are kind of are living in terror. But on top of that, then they're going to gaslight us. Be like, you know, this guy with his camera was. Was trying to come out and massacre these. These agents. No. No. So we are like this.
Ronnie Karam
It's another show out there right now.
Ben Mandelker
It's another show, but that's why. Because we want to provide. At the same time, we want to provide distraction from it. We know you can't put your head in the sand and ignore what's going on in the. In the outside world, but you can also have some sanity in the sense of, like, we deserve some sanity. We deserve to be able to laugh and have a moment where we can before we go back to the headlines. So that's what we're trying our best to do over here.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, that's what we do. I mean, we've been here for 14 years. There's a lot that's gone down in this 14 years. I mean, especially the last decade. It's been fucking crazy out here. And just because we're not on here every day screaming our heads off about it doesn't mean that we don't care and that we don't live in the same country as you do. So just try and remember that, you know, be kind to each other even when the shitheads are at your door. You know, just remember that we have each other and count on each other, because that's all you can really do.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, exactly. And it's been really cool, by the way, it's been really interesting seeing the various Bravo liberties who have taken stands. Obviously, Andy Cohen took a. Took a big stand last night on Watch Happens Live. I saw Molly and Whitner from Southern Charm protesting at. You know, going out there and protesting like, I was not expecting that. Because you never know with Southern Charm, you never know where anyone stands, right?
Ronnie Karam
With Bravo in general, you never know where anybody. Bravo in general.
Ben Mandelker
My God, I'm waiting for Ramona to drop. Just a problematic video. Right.
Ronnie Karam
As we get ready. As we get ready for Vicky to return to Orange county and Gretchen and these kinds of people, you know, Vicky, who just posted some pro ice bullshit the other day. It's like, you know, what is. You know, what's the line? And what's the line where you're like, well, I'm done with this, you know? But being done with it doesn't really help anything. Cause we're living in the world with these people, you know? So I say, you know, my. My only thing that I've ever had, my defense weapon, my defense has always been to mock you and to laugh at you. So that's what I will continue to do, because that's really the only tools I was given in this area. So those are the tools I'm gonna use, you know, and we need to all use the tools that we have.
Ben Mandelker
So, yes, that is 100% correct. Mockery is. Mockery is. Mockery is what I'm going to lean on. But also, I donated. And that made me feel. That made me feel good. But it's a. It's. It's a brutal world out there. So. But over in the Mediterranean, guess what? There's a yacht, you know, people on.
Ronnie Karam
A yacht today in a world that's burning down around our fucking heads. At least there are people like Joe, who's just walking on a beach, carrying a chair and saying things like, kizzy's fucking naughty, mate. I just want to smell her vagina.
Ben Mandelker
You know, Dare to dream. Dare to dream. Hopefully he can get that. He's able to get that glade plugin going. Fill his nostrils, that glade plugin, the goop plugin. Plug her in. Plug her in.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So we start off where we start off with a season of craziness, you know, like this season on Below Deck. And then we end up on the beach where they're cleaning up the beach picnic. And Nathan's like, ah, you need to leave Kizzy alone, mate. And Joe's like, oh, I want to smell her vagina. I'm just at a level where I feel like I can make bad decisions. Yeah. You have one day to get your dick wet, and you're gonna try and do that on your last day. And Nathan's like, you need to chill with the flirting with Kizzy.
Ben Mandelker
Ra. I've always been able to chat shit with Nathan and have a bit of a laugh. But now I don't know what's changed. I'm like, because now he's the boss and he realizes how incompetent you are and also how irresponsible you are with other members of his team. That's what's changed?
Ronnie Karam
So also, Nathan. Nathan. It was all good with Nathan when he was doing the same thing two weeks ago, but now Nathan has a girlfriend that he's trying to impress and win back, and so he's going to stand up a little bit more to you. I mean, let's face it. Nathan's not suddenly, like, this great person. Okay? I'm not buying any of this.
Ben Mandelker
Well, again, and also, his. His antics outside of the show have really soured me on him, which is too bad, because on the show, I do like him quite a bit. And I really, really loved how he just kind of, like, put Joe in his place, you know, late at night in their room. And I was like, oh, that is like, I love this. I was like, too bad. I know that he's a. In real life. Damn it. Damn it. So Nathan's, like, having that person who was like the party playboy on the last two years. Joe did bring it out. That. Bring out that side of me that's a bit boisterous, and I'm not proud of. I'm like, he didn't bring it out on you. You brought it out on you. I have to say. I will. I will. You can't blame everything on Joe as much as he is a. But, yeah, it's immature. It's just time to move on to a different chapter.
Ronnie Karam
So V comes to pick him up on the tender and on the boat. Jennifer, the primary is like a sha. Come. Is your name Alicia? Come over here. Light with me on the lounger. Come on, lie down. You know what, guys? Let's have a discussion. What do you call tomato sauce? Gravy? A sauce.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. This is the existential question of our time. Finally, Jennifer is here.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, it's in the name. Jennifer, you just called it tomato sauce. Hell, I love. Has anybody ever ordered a tomato gravy? No one orders tomato gravy.
Ben Mandelker
It's called sauce sauce.
Ronnie Karam
You guys.
Ben Mandelker
A gravy gravy or sauce sauce. So Frank's like, we call it gravy on Rhode Island. And someone else goes, sauce sauce.
Ronnie Karam
Thank you. Thank. Gravy is brown. When I think of gravy, I think of brown things.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So what do you call marinara sauce, then?
Ronnie Karam
I call it marinara sauce. What am I, a fucking idiot?
Ben Mandelker
Frank, what do you. You literally just said, what do you call marinara sauce? Marinara sauce. That's what it is called, sauce. Frank, I don't call gravy, okay? This. Sorry, Asia. This is a fight between Italians. So Asia's like, these guys are fun. They're, like, 74, scary, and we did not get off to a good start. And we see images of that one crazy girl being like, where's my king crab and my truffles? You know what? You're the captain. So why. Why do we care about wind if we've got a captain? Am I right?
Ronnie Karam
How am I supposed to be on a luxury yacht without clams? Clams casino.
Ben Mandelker
I know, but by the end of it, they'll be yelling, o. Is it this faint? Like a full gator. Idiot.
Ronnie Karam
Now we get my favorite a call from Leah. Morning, baby. Good morning, baby. I'm coming to see you. You're so cute, baby. I can't wait to be with you, baby. Please tell me you've got the he man hair and the capri pants, baby.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah. You see the new trailer for Masters of the Universe? Wow. Talk about a fashion vision board. Okay. Can't wait to see you leave today. I'll see you very soon.
Ronnie Karam
B.B. my baby. Little bear says, hi, Baby, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
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Ben Mandelker
Hey, Sal.
Ronnie Karam
Hank. What's going on?
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Ronnie Karam
Great car at a great price, and.
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It sounds like Carvana. Just makes it easy to buy your car, Hank. Yeah, you're right.
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Ronnie Karam
So people are working stuff. And Annelise is harassing Kathy about crab legs. She's like, did he get king crab legs? Did he get king crab legs? Did he get king crab legs? For sake.
Ben Mandelker
Kathy is. I think Kathy's just, like, sitting at a table. She's just. I feel like Kathy is at her wit's end, but she's too British to be able to show it. But she's just sitting there, and she goes, I'm going to let the chef surprise you on that front. She's like, I Don't know. I don't give a fuck. I'm dealing with bigger things than your fucking king crab legs, so get out of my face. But since she's British, it's like, have a great day.
Ronnie Karam
She just. She's got that British thing where she's like, I hate you. Either way. Like, either way, whether or not it gets crab legs for you, I hate you, and I wish you were dead, you know? But cheeri cheerio. So Kizzy is still in the hospital, I guess, over her karma toe. And she sends Joe a picture while he's vaping in his bunk. And she's like, is this a sexy toe or what? And he's like, would you like me to kiss it and make it better?
Ben Mandelker
And then Nathan goes up to Max, and Max is being quiet. And by the way, I'm. I just moved on because I'm like, I just can't even think about Joe kissing Kissy's toe and flirtatious and the boner not going there. I'm just not doing it.
Ronnie Karam
I'm actually impressed because I felt. I feel like in real life, like, if they weren't on a TV show, Joe would have dumped her the second she broke something, you know?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Yeah. But he still needs to.
Ronnie Karam
He needs to damaged. She's damaged goods. So I'm not.
Ben Mandelker
I'm not ready for this. I've never done this. I've never dated someone with a broken toe. I don't know if I can do it. So then Max is saying he's, like, coming into this season, I had to plan to be lead deckhand. And then one day, I really want to be bossa to, like, show, like, how I evolve, you know? But, like, lead. That kind didn't work because of my anime. So how can I give my best when this guy not appreciate you?
Ronnie Karam
No, your best wasn't even good. It wasn't good. Like, you're off on. You're off letting guests drive tenders and putting guests at risks by, like, dragging them too fast on the thing and bouncing them off. Then you go to bed early. Why would you think that you would be led that cancer? Why?
Ben Mandelker
And he's doing the old. The old fashioned. Well, I'm not putting out a good performance because my boss didn't inspire me. Right. Like, how can I give my.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Not appreciate that?
Ronnie Karam
I need to be inspired to do my job. Your pace should be the inspiration. Yeah, my job to inspire you. Get to work, lame ass. So Captain Sandy goes to check on Josh, who's stressing because Plates, plates, plates. Why would they do this to me? Plates? I wasn't raised for that. I was like, hey there. How you doing? What are you doing for dinner tonight? He's like, well, Skylab with dry ice, that's going to be plated. Don't worry, it'll be on a plate. So what, you're going to, you're going to get dry ice. Well, that's good. I don't want wet ice. Don't make it wet ice. That's one thing I demand on this boat. We will not have wet. I know it's going to be dry. So is that like the fog? Is it smoking? How am I supposed to see in that? You know what? This would be a nice family style meal, I think.
Ben Mandelker
Now, when you said that the scallops and the dry ice are going to be plated, are those multiple plates? No, just one plate. That would be passed around. Okay, see, you almost got me there. Separate plates for each scallop. Josh, you can do it. Come on. Different plates.
Ronnie Karam
You know, I was thinking maybe we could do something a little creative tonight. If you're using ice, you know, maybe you could put it on a plate and then we can get Joe down here and he could ice. How about that? Before.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah. Oh, I love that.
Ronnie Karam
So the guests want to eat at 10. They're like, eat at 10pm Eat at 10pm source of gravy.
Ben Mandelker
Discussion. Sauce is neither a sauce nor a gravy. Discuss. So Asia is in the galley with Kathy and. And they're just seeing what. What Kizzy has said. Like, because. Because he's texting or whatever. And so Asia, because he basically said, basically I squeezed my toe whilst I screamed at him multiple times. It's basically text messages about her experience getting an X ray, which is about as experience, as exciting as one could imagine. And then Nathan decides, even though he can't stand Joe and Kizzy flirting, he's like, all right, you go pick up Kizzy with a. With a tender from the, from the, from the shore. So doesn't seem smart because he's trying to, like, lower these two. Although part of me thinks you guys, you know what, just make out now on the tender while no one can see you. And then you get out of your system and then you get onto the boat.
Ronnie Karam
No, because that's not what they want to do. Like, the whole thrill to them is pissing the other people off because they are both, you know, like Kizzy, like, getting onto the camera when they were secretly kissing on purpose and then doing all this stuff in front of V on purpose, like, that's part of the thrill, you know, so they could have gone on the Thunder and they could have just fucked there and been done with it and been fine. Everything would have been fine. But that's not the thrill, you know, the thrill is being assholes. Also, I have to just. This is just more proof that Kizzy is a monster and a horrible human being. So when she was texting all this stuff, basically what she said was, guys, I have to be in crutches and a boot. That's all she said. But she's one of those people who text you, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 lines to say that it's a lot. I hate that. I hate when people are like, so how you doing? Bloop the next thing. Bloop the next thing. Bloop. Hi, love. Bloop the next thing. Bloop the next. Do you think I don't have a fucking life? I'm ignoring your text on purpose. I'm trying to watch something on YouTube and your texts keep popping up because you're a monster who can't stop sucking my time, Kizzy.
Ben Mandelker
Well, this takes us back to the classic debate between Bethany Franklin and Carol Radswell of one big block of text versus many individual texts. Because I think that they fought about that in the reunion when Carol had her tootsie glasses on. And I think the issue was that Bethany would send her tootsie glasses.
Ronnie Karam
I remember that. Wasn't she wearing like a turtleneck ball gown at that one too?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she was. She was actually just like wearing something crazy.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, she was.
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Ben Mandelker
And I seem to remember there was some issue because it was like Bethany was either wrote too many text messages or it was a wall of text. I don't remember what it was, but I just remember debating this. I regrettably do fall a little bit more into the multiple texts at once camp. Because a lot of times I have a thought and then I text and then I have a follow up thought. But I try to like add BTW to acknowledge that this isn't a an ad. This is a.
Ronnie Karam
You are a BTW person. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Like, oh, here's another thought like that. I think that BTW implies if I had thought about this in time, I would have included it in the first text. But also, like a wall of text is annoying too, when you get like something that looks too big. So it is nice to break it up, but then you get too many notifications. There's Just no easy solve on this one, unfortunately.
Ronnie Karam
Well, I understand, but, Ben, this is 11 texts.
Ben Mandelker
It's 11.
Ronnie Karam
And let me read them multiple times. One text. Looked at the X ray. One text. Refused to show us one text and just said one text. Regardless of what it is, you need a boot and crutches. One text. I was like, cool, okay, I can see the X ray. One text. He was like, do you need the crutches? One text. Write one text. Thanks, love. One text. Is it so rude? Like, off, bro.
Ben Mandelker
Wait, wait. Is it possible. I hate to be in Kizzy's defense. Is it possible that Asia was responding to these, but the production only put up Kizzy's responses? Because why is she saying right? And why is she saying thanks? I don't know. I mean, she's not E.E. cummings.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, did I just. Did I just excoriate Kizzy because I'm reading text wrong.
Ben Mandelker
Whatever. Give it to her. Let her have it. Who cares? She's gone. She's out of our lives.
Ronnie Karam
No, because, like, I'm more mad at her now about the text than anything she's done all season. And I don't think that's fair because I probably just read them wrong. And, you know, like, two weeks ago, I, like, let Max have it. And Max wasn't even the one throwing chicken nuggets. And I knew it. Like. Well, I think I'm. I think I'm misplacing some of my anger at this point.
Ben Mandelker
I have to say, I was not looking at the screen at this moment. So I don't. I can't say one way or another. It's like I look down at my phone, at my own text messages, and then when I looked up, like, I heard H just say, oh, she needs a boot. And that's all I heard. That's all that seemed that mattered. But I. I missed the visuals of this, so I.
Ronnie Karam
But I. I kind of do that too. Whenever I'm watching. When I'm watching TV and someone, like, checks a text, I check. I check my text too. Like, well, maybe I have.
Ben Mandelker
I'm like.
Ronnie Karam
Like, I'm competing with the people on tv. I'm like, well, maybe I got a text too. So you're not the only one who has a text. You know, in real life, when someone checks their phone and then everyone pulls out their phone to check their phone.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it's like. It's like coughing. But either way, Nathan. Nathan sends Joe to pick up to collect Kizzy. And then Joe on the radio goes, I can't wait which, of course, everyone can hear. So V is like, oh, wow, real mature. I mean, this guy's a real piece of work. So then the guests want to eat at 10, and Josh is like, 10pm I mean, hello, sir. You're in Europe. You're in Barcelona, okay? Everyone should have had a nice siesta at this point. So then I love this. The women are sitting around in the. In the hot tub. And the mom. I think this is the mom, Jennifer, she's like, all right, you know what? You can't just go inject yourselves, okay? You got to be an artist to do it. Okay? Case. Case in point. Look at your lips. We gotta get those fixed. Gotta get them fixed.
Ronnie Karam
They look like crab legs ironically.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I love.
Ronnie Karam
I love the honesty. Yeah, we gotta fix those. I love those look terrible, but they. Your. All of your lips look terrible. You all look crazy. Okay? It's like one, one one terrible. Telling another terrible. You know, like, don't throw. Don't throw Eminem.
Ben Mandelker
Jennifer House. This woman, Jennifer, I find her voice to be very comforting, which is not what you'd expect because she does, admittedly sound like a buzzard at times. She's like sauce. But I. I think it's just like being from New York. You just hear this. You hear this accent and this kind of, like, cadence to the. To the. To the patter in way. Like. I had never realized how much it seeped into my. Into my consciousness until I came out here. Because it's not like, you know, if you come back to New York with me and hang out with my friends or my family, we're not all sitting there like, oh, my God, what's going on? Is it called sauce or is it called gravy? We don't sit around talking like that. But you just. It is around. You hear it so much that when I hear these women talking and the way that they, you know, talk back about what? You can't. You can't inject yourself. What are you talking about? Getting injected? You need an artist to do that. Speaking which, you gotta fix your lips. They look terrible, but you look beautiful afterwards. It's like. I just love the way she's saying it, you know?
Ronnie Karam
Well, don't throw flames when you live in a wax house. That's what I'll say to that lady.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, that's.
Ronnie Karam
So now we see shots of people working again, and it's disco party night. Okay? Think we want to take these people back to a time where the mob was actually in power. Yeah, don't give Them, the especially they are.
Ben Mandelker
There was just a giant mob last month, two months, really.
Ronnie Karam
What are they doing?
Ben Mandelker
I think. Remember that guy? I feel like we talked about it. You know, there's this giant gambling thing that happened in New York City that involved several professional athletes like Chauncey Billups, who's a coach, I think, in Detroit and for the NBA. And basically the mob was setting up private poker games. This is actually incredibly fascinating. They set up private poker games, like high roller things, whatever, where people who are wealthy would come in to gamble. And these were illegal poker games. And they'd be gambling a huge amount of stuff. And they would use people like Chauncey Billups and others to lure in people to these high stakes games. But what people didn't realize was that the mob was cheating. And they had like cameras and the card shufflers and this and that. And like, it's actually an incredibly high tech Ocean's Eleven kind of thing. And it was a massive, massive sting. And the FBI cracked down and it was a huge, huge organized crime situation. So just another thing that's more interesting than Kizzy just, you know.
Ronnie Karam
Well, good for them making it. Making it work. And changing times, Rapidly changing times. I know.
Ben Mandelker
Keeping up with tech. Mob tech.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, I like it. Yeah. Because you never thought the mob would be like, so technical, you know, so good at stuff like that.
Ben Mandelker
It is kind of funny. You don't think of like Tony, you know, Tony Soprano or Christopher Soprano or anyone in the Sopranos being able, like to sit down and hear a pitch from a tech person. Be like, this is what we gotta do. We gotta insert this code into the card counter. And it's gonna let you know what cards in which people's hands you know. But.
Ronnie Karam
All right, guys, I got a new plan for the future of this family. We're learning dos. That's it. We're learning to us.
Ben Mandelker
Okay? We're going back to basics. Okay, what's your plan? No, we're gonna use the basic computer language. Basic, like in three, two, one. Contact magazine. Okay. HyperCard. It's the future, everyone.
Ronnie Karam
All right, we'll find each other on MySpace. All right? Make up a fake name on MySpace. We'll send each other codes. Yeah, I don't even want to hear it from you unless it's an HTML. You got it. All right, meeting concerned.
Ben Mandelker
P.S.
Ronnie Karam
Is not fucking called gravy. And the next person that says that's being thrown off. All right? So it's just go party night. And Max is still pretending that he knows how to Meditate.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
He's in this room saying, woo saw a lot. And Meanwhile, Nathan is FaceTiming with Gail, and he's like, what's Menorca like? And she's like, well, I had some ice cream, and then we went off on a hike and a swim.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, so what are you doing tonight? I think we're just going to take it easy. Taking it easy from all that hiking and swimming and ice cream having. So then Nathan's like, a fact? Well, yeah, I guess the hiking part is. I guess the swimming part is, too. I don't know how to say this.
Ronnie Karam
I need a nap After a nap. I'm exhausted after I take a nap. I can only imagine how people who hike feel, especially after ice cream. I need a nap. So Nathan's like, the fact that she didn't jump on that plane and go straight home shows me that she doesn't want to call it quits. And now I'm sitting here daydreaming about moving forward and having a beautiful life together. And could you imagine me walking her down the aisle? I'm crying my eyes out. I'm crying my eyes at night for sake.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, settle down, settle down. I know you're in love, but you're also bored. So let's just get back to reality, sir. So they hang up, and Joe and Kizzy reunite. And she's like, I'm back. Baby girl, you've been gone off of the show for, like, 23 minutes of air time. I mean, this between last episode and this, she's acting like she's been gone for three years. You, like, went to the doctor, we're gone for an hour and came back. So she's like, the doctors did tell me when I was in the hospital, he said, someone needs to give me a kiss on the lips or my die. That's my prescription as a kiss on the lips.
Ronnie Karam
The problem is kissing you on the lips. Then they need a prescription. You see, it's just a. It's a vicious cycle. So now they're flirting on the boat, and he's like, I'm going as slow as possible on the boat to get as much time as I can with Kisser. And they go back to the ship, and let's see, she face plants right on to Joe, and he's like.
Ben Mandelker
Because she, like, falls out, she can't. She doesn't make the transition from tender to ship very smoothly. And V. V's annoyed, but she's just trying not to show it too much because she doesn't want to give them hoes the satisfaction. Her words. She goes, but I think I might lose it eventually. So now people are getting ready, but.
Ronnie Karam
Also V. Like, I get that V's hurt, and these people are extremely obnoxious. But you. You dated that man for five minutes, too. Like, all of you. I think I'm frustrated at the end, and I'm just like, you stop it, too. Like, I can't. What's even worse than Joe is somebody being affected by Joe. You know, Joe's like the croup. Like, you know, it's gonna. Well, I guess you would be affected by the croup.
Ben Mandelker
I don't know why. I don't know where Typhoid Joe.
Ronnie Karam
Joe is like consumption.
Ben Mandelker
Joe is like the malaria I got on an expedition into the jungle.
Ronnie Karam
I don't know where I am today. Joe is, like, breaking down today, Ben. What can I tell you? But, yeah, Joe's just.
Ben Mandelker
Joe's.
Ronnie Karam
Never mind. It doesn't matter. But what hurts more than. Than watching Joe? Is it watching that Joe can still affect people? You know, Joe's a disgusting human. We all know Joe's disgusting. Anybody who's watched the show knows Joe is a disappointment, and he's gross. So stop being so affected by Joe's. You know?
Ben Mandelker
But I am actually okay with her being affected by Joe. I do want her to move on, but I also feel like it's only been, like, it's. It's also been, like, five days, and they're stuck in the same place together, and she has to see these two idiots every single day. And she's also, quite frankly, mourning still. And on top of that, I'm glad that she's annoyed, because I like that Joe doesn't get to be let off easily. That's his whole thing. His whole thing, you know, was that he came crying to her like, I did something bad, and I don't deserve you. And she's like, it's okay. It's cool. And then he was like, oh, my God, it's great. I got. I love Victoria. And then the moment she's like, actually, it is up, then he starts spinning a narrative that she is a demon because he's just not comfortable with people not liking him. And that's. That is what's happened now with Whit Nathan. It's happened with her. So I like that she's actively not liking him because he can't deal with it. That's. And that's how people like him are.
Ronnie Karam
I don't think it affects him at all that's what's bugging me. It's like, it doesn't affect him. He's just gonna go make out with Kizzy and, like, have his fun with Kizzy. And you're the one who's, like, sitting there miserable. I mean, I think you should, I don't know, get some revenge. The thing about being stuck on a boat is you can't even get some revenge booty because, like, what are your options? The clown in the kitchen crying about plates. Like, that's all she's got left. So, like, what's she gonna do? So most of it. It's not like I'm annoyed with her. I would just like to see her not be affected by a loser. You're too good for that.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Are you craving the sauce?
Ben Mandelker
When it comes down to it, are you gonna be gravy? Are you gonna be a sauce? Hey, what do you call marinara sauce? Trick question. It's called marinara sauce. So Josh is telling us that this last dinner means everything, but the guests have been a tough one. So he's gonna just do some nice dishes. And he tries to say. He tries to do an American accent. He tries to. He tries to say, get out of here, but instead he goes, get out of here. And then the producers just stare at him like, was that something? That was my New York accent.
Ronnie Karam
Well, you didn't do it with a guitar in your hand, so for that, we thank you.
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
So now Josh is telling Asa that he's got some truffles for Annelise. By the way, someone pointed. Someone pointed out in the comments that Joe. That he served truffles the season. So it's like they're out of season, but he's already served them, so that didn't really work. But then they also suggested that maybe Max ate them all, because, you know, Max is always eating there. Was that.
Ben Mandelker
Those were the last truffles in Europe on that boat, but he basically got some. Some. Some shitty ones. And he's gonna say that he got them imported from Australia overnight because these people are idiots.
Ronnie Karam
And.
Ben Mandelker
And, you know, and she'll be happy. And of course, she does wind up being happy. And then we see Kizzy, and she's. She's hobbling around, and Kissy's like, I don't like crutches. I find them very difficult to use. Gosh, I can't imagine all the people who are like, you know what? I love crutches. Give me some crutches. I just want to go use some crutches every single day.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And she's. She's telling this to be. And V is like, well, at least you're protected. That's really important. You know, we just want you to be healthy, Kizzy. And Joe's like, do you know where the mayonnaise is? Huh? And Kizzy goes, in me. Bummy. And he goes, yeah, that's probably gonna be the best food I ever eat. Oh, God.
Ben Mandelker
Just.
Ronnie Karam
Both of you just shut up. Ah.
Ben Mandelker
Just go away.
Ronnie Karam
Sink the belt.
Ben Mandelker
Meanwhile, up at. Up at the table, Jennifer goes, the higher the hair, the closer to God. Which is funny because her hair is not high at all. It's just down. It's just like. Like, it's, like, flat and hanging down to her knees.
Ronnie Karam
Ah.
Ben Mandelker
Gloss on the. God. And then everyone is just like. We see their rooms. Their rooms are like. They're just, like clothes everywhere. It's a disaster.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So Annalise is like, well, Josh better not disappoint with dinner tonight. I'll tell you that much. And Jennifer's like, oh, my God, everyone's breast look so good. I just want a motorboat.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And Josh serves his scallop ceviche with some king crab and truffle. So Annalise, like, oh, my God. For me. Oh, my God. Like, this is so nice.
Ronnie Karam
So have you ever had scallop cevichi?
Ben Mandelker
Yes.
Ronnie Karam
Is it like, boogers? Tell me the truth.
Ben Mandelker
You know, okay. We're some truth telling now. I don't think it's like boogers, but, you know, there's some people who feel like sushi just in general tastes like boogers. I know ceviche is not sushi, but, like, raw fish tastes like boogers. I enjoy. I enjoy, like, a scallop sushi moment. So I am. I'm pro. I'm pro scallop ceviche.
Ronnie Karam
Okay. I like a cooked scallop, but. But raw scallop is just so, like, slimy to me. It's not like normal sushi. It's. Well, it's like a slimy sushi, but just.
Ben Mandelker
I guess my input didn't really Matter. Thanks for asking. My opinion that you're not even going to take into consideration.
Ronnie Karam
No, I'm saying I'm taking it into consideration. I'll maybe try it one day. That's why I'm asking you, you know, because to me, it's just like a. It's a bowl of boogers at the Mother Load. We're going to try some scallops ceviche at the Mother Load. Really? I don't think so. That's. That's not the place you want to get scallops of Ichi.
Ben Mandelker
That's not where you want to really ingest anything. But I think. I don't know, I kind of feel like if your scallops ceviche or scallops taste like boogers, then something went wrong. I think that means there was probably over ceviche.
Ronnie Karam
I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
What am I talking about? I don't know what I'm talking about.
Ronnie Karam
And how do I. How do you know what boogers taste like, Ben? Well, that's the real question.
Ben Mandelker
We all know what boogers taste like. We were all children once. I mean, let's not act like we wouldn't. You didn't have recess, and you have a cold that day, and that's knots coming down your nose. Coming. And, you know, you're on a soccer field and you got. It's got nowhere else to go. It goes right in that mouth. Oh, you know, it's just what kids do. We all know it.
Ronnie Karam
Confessions. So they get their starter and it's. It's the, you know, dry ice thing. You know, Captain Sandy's like, it's me. So Asia's like, oh, he's such a good chef. The guests are loving it. I don't gotta knock him over the head and feed him to the fishes.
Ben Mandelker
What are we exporting to Europe for our culture?
Ronnie Karam
That's not the right time to ask.
Ben Mandelker
I know. That's a. But you know what bad, terrible question right now. So Josh is like, so this is quite a French. French flavors. Spring cabbage to butt has been raised. What? There's a robot, two bots. Robot, two bots. And then on top of the caviar, just for you at least. Oh, my God, count me off of me. Like, I can't even.
Ronnie Karam
But wasn't she the one complaining that the caviar was on top of the oysters last week?
Ben Mandelker
What didn't she complain about? Let's be honest.
Ronnie Karam
So Kizzy is sent to bed to rest her foot, and she's like, no, no, I'M resting. I'm fine. I'll stay away. She's like, no, you need your rest. And also, I need a rest from you. You're really obnoxious. I heard the mayonnaise and the asshole thing, and that's just not acceptable. Go to bed.
Ben Mandelker
Just go to bed. So then, of course, Jo carries her. She's like, my night in shining armor. He can carry me around all night. And he's like, it's just so hard not to kiss her. It's like, it's really not that hard to not kiss her. So.
Ronnie Karam
But what's the difference? Like, what's the difference between actually kissing her but then doing everything that you guys are doing now? Like carrying her around and hugging all over each other and talking about eating mannies out of her ass? Like, how is that much better. Just make out with her. Like, you guys have no respect anyway, so just do what you're gonna do. It's bugging me because they're acting like they win some Puritan award, you know? Like, wow, we really. Look at us. Look at the restraint you're showing. No restraint. So stop.
Ben Mandelker
Right? Right. So dinner is still being served. It's after midnight, and it's being served, and it's lobster and all sorts of stuff, and they are all loving it. And Nathan gets a text from Gail, and she's like, so we'll be heading back to B next morning. And he's like, yes. So then he's like, yes. I can't believe it. This is more exciting than when I found out that my sister has a new fiance, is gonna get married again. My faith in relationships is restored because my sister's gonna get married. That was always going through his head. Yeah. He goes and gives Kathy a hug, and Kathy's saying, this is. This week has been the most that she's ever cried and. And how Max has been the person that's seen her cry the most and probably also made her cry as well. Let's not. Let's not forget. And then she's just saying how he scoops her up and kisses her and just gives her affection and yada, yada, yada. And how. But she's like, I think Max and I are on the same page. I mean, but I can never be so sure. It's been a bit of a roller coaster of a relationship, you know, where the highs are. Well, we remember I'm the smart one. The lows are. We remember he's the stupid one. And then you say, okay, I guess we'll see. Where this goes.
Ronnie Karam
So now Nathan is on the phone with Gale again, and he's like, did you have a fun night? She's like, I had a really fun night, actually. Did I tell you about the ice cream?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I did. That's nice. What are you doing tomorrow? More ice cream.
Ronnie Karam
Tomorrow. What's going on tomorrow?
Ben Mandelker
Oh, we're going out. Are you coming out with us? There'll be ice cream.
Ronnie Karam
Am I coming out with you? I need to think about it. Am I ready to be hurt again? Am I ready for the. Yes, you're ready. String Barcelona for him. So stop acting like you're not going to go out. What are you going to do instead? You already ate ice cream.
Ben Mandelker
Will that be Van Lens? I'm not sure about that. Maybe Jenny is. Oh, don't know who that is. It's an American brand. It's delicious. So then V is. V's just gone through it. She's. And she's been going through it. And we see in the galley that Kathy is telling Asia that she like, I've got it. I'll handle them tonight. Etc. And this is where Jennifer is like. Like, who wants to get motivated?
Ronnie Karam
And.
Ben Mandelker
V basically goes out to the naughty boy and she lies down on it and she starts to cry. This, of course, is the designated place to cry, as evidenced by Lisa Barlo and the. The naughty boy.
Ronnie Karam
Heather Gay comes out. She's like, I'm just trying to be your friend, but you're a liar and a. A story planter.
Ben Mandelker
So Nathan sees this and he goes down. He's like, what's wrong? Did. Did you not get ice cream today? Apparently that's the thing that people are doing. And she's like, gave me a hug. Come on, what's wrong? She's like, it's just ipod and Kizzy and Joe and it's all together. And it just sucks that I need to have a release at some point. So he's feeling really bad for her because he's seeing her crying. He sees that she's, like, working. She works hard on his team. She sees what's happened. She knows that she's been screwed over by Joe, and that's just shitty. And the timing is awful. And, you know, it takes him back to being super protective of my sister.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And he says that he kicked his dad out of the house when he was 15 and that he had to be the protector for his mom. And so seeing V cry makes him sad. So then Joe, meanwhile, is partying at the disco, and Jennifer's like, hey, who's the girl with the boot? Who's that? She walks funny. Let's trip her.
Ben Mandelker
I like her for you. I like her for you. You should get with her. She's a good girl. Get with her. So Nathan's like, if you're upsetting girls left, right, and center, then you need to take some accountability. I just want V to know I've got her back. So Nathan just basically is like, don't let this affect you. I understand. Of course. I have a sister. So, yeah, people, start going to bed. Bedtime, Bedtime.
Ronnie Karam
Asia is complimenting Josh on his great food.
Ben Mandelker
You were amazing.
Ronnie Karam
That was a six minute amazing. I hope that you really understood that.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, I got it.
Ronnie Karam
Thank you.
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Ronnie Karam
I prefer stars. Can we just go back to rating things with stars?
Ben Mandelker
So Joe and Nathan are in their room, and Joe's like, what a season that was. Oh, man, I can't wait to expel her vagina. So then Nathan's like, oh, man. Nathan's like, angry. And Joe picks up on it. And Joe's like, are you good? He's like, no, it's just V. She's crying. He's crying. Why is she crying? I thought everything was sweet. I mean, all I did was make out with another girl while she was sick in bed on her boyfriend's anniversary of his death. Like, what's wrong with that?
Ronnie Karam
I was like, don't be a fucking noob, man. I'm warning ya. I'm warning ya. And so he's in the top bunk and he's like leaning out and we see him in like night vision, like, I'm mourning ya. Angry, angry monk face. And Joe's like, oh, God, look, now the big man's talking.
Ben Mandelker
Huh?
Ronnie Karam
And he's like, yeah, the big man's talking. Because when I see a fucking woman crying on the fucking swim platform, that doesn't sit right with me. Don't act the big man or I'm gonna smack the shit out of you. Everybody knows how you treat women when you don't like them anymore. You ghost them. You ghost them. That's what you're supposed to do.
Ben Mandelker
And Jo, that's right. That's how it operates. And she goes, oh, really?
Ronnie Karam
Oh.
Ben Mandelker
So then Nathan's like, do you want to go right now? I mean, Nathan is angry. He's. And he's like in his face, basically, like, I'm not around. And Joe's like, come on, bro. He's like, well, then behave yourself, will ya, or I'm gonna lose me Cool. I'm gonna lose. I'm this close with you. I'm this close. And behave yourself or shut the up because it's gone too far.
Ronnie Karam
And he's like, oh, okay, okay. He goes, don't pat my arm, you dick. I'm serious. I'm telling you this from the top bunk at me something. And he's like.
Ben Mandelker
And just fucking behave yourself. I will wake up tomorrow fresh.
Ronnie Karam
Nathan's my best friend, and at the end of the day, you get monk hair for monk hair. And he's supposed to be in my corner, but I disagree with a lot of things he's done, you know? But I've not opened my mouth except to show my teeth like I'm doing right now. This is not a brotherly warning. This is an attack. It's an attack on me.
Ben Mandelker
No, it's a brotherly warning. It's not an attack. It's him being like, I've told you as your boss three different times, stop doing what you're doing. And you're still doing it. So now I'm mad Joe. So Joe's like, okay, good night. Sorry, bro. Sorry. Good night, bro. So they go to bed, it's awkward. Next morning, they wake. Everyone wakes up up. V goes up to Kizzy to give her a hug. And then she steps on her foot, which I loved, and he's like, oh. I was like, good for you, V. Good for you.
Ronnie Karam
He's like, whoops. So Captain Sandy comes down to Josh and she's like, oh, wait. Hey, how'd your dinner go last night? Anybody get lost in the fog? Dry ice. He's like, oh, really good. They enjoyed it. Yeah, it was plated. It was plated. I don't know if you heard, but it was plated. It was put on plates, so.
Ben Mandelker
Well, you know what? If you were a restaurant, I'd give you a letter grade of B. And I'd give it to you twice, because guess who's coming to town today? Me.
Ronnie Karam
Be.
Ben Mandelker
That's right. Oh, God. So exciting. You know, in the beginning for Nathan, it was a rough start. I'm just going to start reflecting on people. It was a rough start for Nathan. Remember when he knocked the boat into the lamp and it crashed? Oh, God, that was hilarious. He's the first time boson and. But now we've got a smooth machine. You know what? I wish we had a smoothie machine, though. Right. That would actually be quite refreshing in the morning. Morning. Look into that.
Ronnie Karam
Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of A two Part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
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Below Deck Med S10E18 Part One: "The Long Kizz Goodnight"
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Air Date: January 27, 2026
In this episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the penultimate episode of Below Deck Mediterranean Season 10. The hosts provide their signature humorous and snarky commentary on the yacht crew’s dramatic entanglements, including the ongoing Joe-Kizzy-V triangle, late-season guest antics, and the unending debate about tomato sauce versus gravy. Throughout, the episode reflects on how reality TV can be a (temporary) haven from grim real-world headlines, while still occasionally confronting broader societal concerns.
Consistently playful, zippy, and irreverently critical, Ben and Ronnie blend genuine affection for Bravo with biting satire, asides, and pop culture references. Their camaraderie drives the episode, balancing social commentary with their unique take on every bit of drama—onscreen and off.
For those seeking escapism, laughs, and razor-sharp Bravo commentary, this episode delivers on all fronts—mockery, mayhem, and the sea of sauce. For part two and closure on this wild season, be sure to catch the next episode.