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Samantha
And then you're judged and you shouldn't be breaking like, oh my God, it's going to come back and bite you in the ass. Yeah, but you know what? You. Yeah, that's what I say. Yes, you. That's great. Wait, me what I do? Wait, what did I do? No, it's just repeating what you said. Okay, Because I was about to break and I don't do that often.
Rachel
I'm Vulnerable. I'm really vulnerable at this, like, little table out by the sidewalk. It's like, a lot. Well, then why are we worried about the judgment? God forbid you actually don't hold together everything every fucking two seconds. Yes. Yes. You don't have to. You don't have to tell me. I know that. I live it. That's what I always tell. You know, it's hard enough to go through a separation, divorce, grief, and hold it together. And I had to put on a brave face for my daughter while I grieved for her father. That's right, Amanda. My card is coming soon.
Samantha
You just wait.
Rachel
Say, talk about your child one more time. I'm gonna bring out the big guns. But for me, a lot of the outlet was having my friends who would not judge me, who allowed me to cry, who allowed me to scream, and who also gave me the grace to be able to do it in a way that was comfortable for me. So Kyle's like, it's just like, one step forward, two steps back. It's like, right now, like, I just can't deal. Like, God, am I DJ Scott Cat now? Am I right, guys?
Samantha
So she's saying, like, I'm trying to help my friend, and she's in a negative place, and I just can't do this with Dorit. Like, if she's going to act like this, and I just can't do it. I need to see. I need to see her change. And so now the waiters come over with the birthday cakes, because let's not forget, this is a double birthday party for Erica and Dorit. So Jennifer's like, oh, wait, wait, wait. Put it back in the kitchen. Put it back in the kitchen. The girls aren't here yet. I was like, no, I want to eat. She's like, oh, okay.
Rachel
Well, this was.
Samantha
I'll get her.
Rachel
This, I think, was. This was so mean. See, this is Dorit's birthday. And Kyle's like, no. She basically saying she went outside to have a moment so she doesn't get to be there for her own cake to be, like, for the candles come out. Like, I just thought that was like, this is why cosmic girls, girl, you know, look, she. She, like, would not make. She would not let the cakes wait for the birthday girl to come back.
Samantha
Yeah. And so Erica's like, well, I hated this night, to be honest. It was annoying. I was looking cute. So outside, Jennifer comes, and she's like, well, hello, it's me, your human tortilla warmer. Listen, this is probably the wrong time But Kyle brought out the cakes, and she wants you to come blow out your cake. And Rachel's like, yeah, no, I mean, I love everybody at the table, but no, I mean, cake's disgusting anyway. Who does that? You know what I'm doing today? I'm breaking, and I'm saying, fuck you, cake. There, I said it.
Rachel
Yeah. It's like, I'm having. I'm already having my own cake. It's a cake of vulnerability because I'm, like, so vulnerable right now, and I'm, like, breaking in the cake. I'm a cake breaker. So.
Samantha
So meanwhile, inside, they just sing without Dorit in there. And then everybody leaves. Everybody starts leaving, and Rachel's still crying outside. She's like, I want it hot, girl summer. And I'm not getting it.
Rachel
Well, we learned later what this really means is I decided to roll the dice and not spend the summer in the Hamptons or in Europe. I decided to stay here in la, and it's not working out very well for me in Hamptons or.
Samantha
I know. I love when she expands on her drama. She's like, oh, my God, I'm not in the Hamptons right now.
Rachel
It's really hard eating at, like, some restaurant in the Valley and, like, crying by the valet stand like, this is not hot girl summer for me. Like, so now we go to Dorit's house. It's another day, and she is. She's working on her book, and she has her laptop on the sofa in front of her. This is how we know she's not really writing, because who spent. Who writes their book by leaning over on their laptop on the sofa? She's like. She's like, here's the story of my life. One time I came into the kitchen and there were four. Two fewer Pringles than what I had remembered. And I thought, gee, that's not gonna be a problem. But later on, I would realize it was a harbinger of something terrible happening in my marriage.
Samantha
It was very, like, improv, bad improv. Scene of somebody trying to write. She's just, like, sitting with her computer, doing this with her hands. It's like, dear, dear people, listening reader. Dear reader, it's me, Dorit. Or as you might know, me, Dorit. I remember as a little girl in Francisan, thinking about all the dreams I had of coming to America land and Siguri. Just be quiet. You ain't writing this book.
Rachel
It was like, sucks in the city. She's like, I couldn't help but wonder, when we go through a divorce, are we divorcing the man or the man divorcing us? Like, that's not very deep thought. No, but think.
Samantha
I knew a man named Mr. Big. I tried to make him Mr. Less Big, but he wouldn't let go of the chips. Now we just call him Mr. Diabetes.
Rachel
He broke up with me on a postage. A postage diabetes. It was very terrible.
Samantha
Then we go to Beau's house, and her daughter is getting her driver's license. Or she just got it. So they're all wearing T shirts. The family is there, and they've family and friends. They've all got T shirts with a driver's license on it. And they're like, oh, my God, you guess what? You get a T shirt, and you also get a Maserati. So she's gotten her first car for her kid. $110,000. Holy shit.
Rachel
Lail.
Samantha
Oh, my.
Rachel
Like a great kid. Lael Lael Lael is probably one of the best kids on this show right now, let's be honest. But that we start our children off with a Honda Civic. Okay, what is going on with this Maserati? Okay, this $10,000 Maserati, you need the.
Samantha
Equivalent of a bumper. Your child's first car. I don't care how responsible your child is, that car needs to be able to be wrecked. Okay, $110,000. Oh, my God. Good luck getting an oil change on that thing.
Rachel
The first time she makes a right turn on to Mellon Rose, there is going to be a ding and a dent. I'm going to say that right now.
Samantha
You're going to go get your oil change is going to cost you an arm and a leg. Literally. Literally. Okay.
Rachel
Speaking of legs, Amanda is at home on a Pilates machine, and her kids keep wandering up to her, and she's like, hi, sweet thing. Hi. Hi, Kanan. Hey. I'm doing. Mom is doing Pilates. I was like, oh, my God, get me away from this lady right now. And then.
Samantha
So then we show up at a horror movie set. I'm not really sure what this place is supposed to be, but it's a wedding venue for Kyle's kid. Yikes. It's. What are you guys doing? I would not want to go there. It looks scary.
Rachel
It's felt very rustic. In fact, Kyle says, oh, my God, this is super rustic. So Kyle and Jan, who's like, her friend or assistant, come up. This friend, if you will, friend ploy to meet this lady Chloe, who is like a creative director. And the. And there's Nicole, who's a wedding planner. And Chloe is like, welcome. It's a special place. We're just saying, you don't even feel like you're in LA at all. I mean, who wants to be in la, right? Just full of disgusting, fake, stupid people clinging on to their childhood successes of being on stupid shows like Little House in the Prairie. Am I right? And Carl's like, okay. That's what she loves about it, though, so.
Samantha
Well, the scenery is beautiful. It's like at the top of the hills. I mean, it's very gorgeous around there. But the actual place is like this rustic kind of cabin thing. And then they go inside and there's just like scarves thrown over things as decorate. You know, like hippie scarves thrown over him. What is this place? How could you be looking at the china you were looking at and then having this be the wedding place? This looks like a Manson. For speaking of cults, this looks like a Manson family set. Like, don't get out. Run.
Rachel
Yeah. So Cal's like, well, she was gonna get married in Aspen, but it was like too complicated for a multitude of reasons. Basically, Bravo was like, we're not going to pay to move everyone there to film the wedding. So she wanted something with this vibe. So, you know, rustic and ranch vibes, kind of like, I guess, what's the word I would use? Poor. Poor vibes. So, like, that. You did a really good job with that.
Samantha
And Chloe's like, we have alpacas. Oh, great. Multiple animals, shitting. That's great. That's great for a wedding. Yeah. Pooping alpacas. Don't they spit at you too? Although I love an alpaca. I'll say I do love an alpaca, but I love more a home goods alpaca, you know, like the stuffed ones or the statue ones or the lamps. The lamp. I think the real ones. They spit at you or something.
Rachel
They do. I have a picture of one spitting at my friend Jane. Basically, I went with Michelle Collins. Michelle Collins and I and Jane, we went up to my friend's place and my friend had had like a little alpaca farm. And so I took a picture with the alpaca, and then Michelle took a picture of the alpaca. I'm like, jane, take a picture of the alpaca. And Jane was like, I don't want to take a picture of the alpaca. They go, take a picture. So Jane's like, okay, fine. So Jane went up to the alpaca, and just as I snapped the picture, the alpaca spat in her face. And you literally see her hair being blown back. It was like I got the exact shot of Jane getting spat on by the alpaca in her face.
Samantha
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Samantha
So they're kind of looking at it, and the daughter comes. Alexia comes like, hey, Mom. Love the play. Really cool play. And they're making fun of her for sending her invites and out via paperless post. And Kyle's like, oh, my God, Kathy won't even know what that is. Like, she's not even going to see the invitation.
Rachel
Yeah, that's crazy. So I guess he walks up Bravo's favorite. What's the equivalent of like a photo bomber, but, like, with TV shows? TV bomber, Teeth bomber. Mauricio. Hey, this is not going to be the last time you'll see me here on Bravo today. Get ready for the Valley. Persian style. Oh, my God. This is amazing. I love it. Oh, we're gonna be partying all night in this room. It's just gonna be me with a bunch of bracelets and a necklace and an earring, a DJing and hanging out with hot girls, Right, guys?
Samantha
Hey, guess what? I've got news. Not only am I gonna be on Bravo 18 times this week, but I'm a DJ now. So line up, ladies, line up.
Rachel
Get ready. I love DJing. Yeah. Well, now dad's taking DJ lessons, so that's great.
Samantha
He's taking DJ lessons. I can't. I didn't even know DJ lessons were a thing. Don't you have a YouTube God? The DJ lessons in LA must just be a bunch of 50 year old dudes with really bright teeth. Like.
Rachel
Yeah.
Samantha
Hey, match that beat, baby. Yeah.
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To hear some Rob Thomas and Santana. Guys, here we go.
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Let's do it. Here's Trio Lipa along with a remix of. Of Dave Matthews. So get ready, everyone. Ants marching remix Mauricio remix.
Samantha
So it's really awkward. And he's like, well, you know, I'm. I'm a guy. I've got some time on my hands. So I was like, why not take up a new hobby? You know, I was taking up new hobbies last year, but they were all so young that Kyle got mad at me for dating them. So what are you gonna do?
Rachel
You know? I was like, we already have enough rumors about you going through a midlife crisis. Do you have to add fuel to the fire? I mean, his DJ name is gonna be Momentum. And she laughs, but I'm like, is she making fun of him or is he really gonna be called Momentum? Because I know. I believe it.
Samantha
For me, I know I actually believe it.
Rachel
Yeah.
Samantha
So they look at the venue. I really don't care about this wedding, so I'm gonna skip through it. So if there's anything you want to talk about, go for it. I'll support you.
Rachel
Nope, just that Mauricio was there and that was it.
Samantha
Mauricio's the dj. I think we. I think we extracted the juice from that fruit. Okay, so we're at Kathy's house now, and Kathy is. Good lord. I mean, she's being waxed over. She's being emolliented. She's getting all those fluids sucked out of her and, yeah, re put back in with other fluids. Her face looks complete. I don't know if it's been scrubbed. I don't know. It's very smooth. It's pulled. Her lips are pulled so far back that she looks crazy. And the little. These little frown line things are going like this. They're making like a mustache. And I'm just saying all that to point out that I fucking love this woman and she needs to always stay on the tv.
Rachel
I know, she's great. So Rachel comes over. Honey, I'M home and I'm vulnerable. And Kathy's like, oh, my God, are you gonna get a drip or a shot? No, I'll do a shot. Like, I don't do drips. I don't have good veins. My veins broke. They just broke. My veins are crying right now. Kathy's like, a very unique person in some ways. She, like, reminds me of my mother. Just so sweet and supportive. Like, I can't. Like, I can't. Like, I remember dinner, a dinner party, being like, where's Kathy? And she was, like, on the table. And, like, one of the girls was like, she's at. She's at the caviar. Remember, like, a few days ago, she, like, ate the caviar that I put out? Like, was that, like, not the most funniest story? Like, oh, my God. Wait, hold on. Let me call my son. Hey, Kai. Kathy Hilton came over. I put out caviar and then she ate it. I know. Hilarious.
Samantha
She got a little bit on her dress. I mean, icon. Like, would anyone but Kathy Hilton get caviar on the dress? Like, seriously dead. I'm better than that fish egg.
Rachel
So, dad. And then, like, we served dinner afterwards, and she's like, I can't even eat dinner because I ate so much caviar. I was like, iconic. Hilarious.
Samantha
So Kathy's like, I was really worried about you the other night. Yeah, it was interesting. Like, basically, I saw Page Six. I saw Us Weekly. I was even on Netflix. Like, I turned on Netflix and they were like, have you watched Rachel Zo Getting Divorced? I mean, what the fuck, Cassie? Like, I can't, like, what's happening? Like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm doing this as meditation, Kathleen. Intentionally intentionality. Quietly, like, so it doesn't happen and my kids don't have to hear. I mean, even though my kids wake up and I'm like, good morning, kids. Your father sucks. Get out of bed.
Rachel
I just don't want Caius and Sky to find out. I'm, like, really upset. So then the. The. The nurse comes in to administer shots and everything, which is. Sorry, sorry. I just have bad bands. Bad things. Just pass it along to let everyone know. Rachel's always got bad things.
Samantha
We're doing. We're doing Niagen today. Nigen Ivy. I have to look that up. What does that do?
Rachel
I don't know, because I can't get it got bad things. But honestly, Kathy, while Ronnie looks this up. Let me tell you something. I just was, like, not myself to begin with. And then I was like, down at the end of the table, like, with the stupid people, you know? And, like, that was weird. And Dorit's, like, getting judged for breaking up this group. And I think it's just, like, a breaking point for me because I need to know that I'm, like, not being judged because I can't be judged. Do you know some people have judged me for my bad dance spinas?
Samantha
I, like, have no veins. Like, seriously, I don't even know if I have any blood, so I don't want to be judged. And Kathy's like, I think what I'm hearing is that you want some support. It's like, yeah, I want support. So what I'm saying is, like, guys, you judging me? Are you judging me right now? Like, am I not safe to speak freely here? Nothing had to do with you, Rachel. None of this had to do with you. And she's on, like, her second day now. She's like, I cannot. These bitches are judging me.
Rachel
Kathy, I don't think it's that we don't want or value other people's opinions. I just think everyone in this group, whether they agree or not with how she's handling it, they just need to be, like, here, and they just need to hold her and cheer for her. I wish I could do that. But I have bad veins, which means my arms basically don't work. They're just like two floppy ropes.
Samantha
But for Kathy, like, what I'm saying is, like, I really miss my family right now. It's like. You want to borrow Kim? No. Please. Hey. Hey, Ray.
Rachel
Do you know sometimes I get in the car and Carly Simon comes on and I just weep? Because when she says, you're so vain, I'm like, no, I have bad things.
Samantha
Hey, why is the coat rack talking about Carly Simon? All right, Kim, go back to your box.
Rachel
She doesn't want you coming around again. Mama.
Samantha
See you in the next Halloween.
Rachel
Oh, wow. Didn't even understand that. You know, Kathy, maybe you'll understand. You know, I'm always in the Hamptons all summer. And in Europe. In the Hamptons and Europe at the same time. Half of me is in one place, half is in the other. It's somehow an optical illusion.
Samantha
My body is in the Hamptons, but my veins are in Europe.
Rachel
But, like, obviously working. All, like, in LA this summer. And by working, I mean shooting this TV show with stupid people. It's just, like, new for me. Like, it's weird. Like, it just feels like everyone left, and I'm just stuck here in, like, the lame table. And I'm just like, I'm broken. Breaking in la.
Samantha
Do you think it's affecting your mental health? Because it is like, actually, like, I need to like, laugh. I mean, that's what you do in the Hamptons. I need to like, be in the Hamptons. I need to like, laugh and you know, like, I mean, I know. And have a hot girl summer. Yeah. I mean, look, it's not the south of France, but like, it's as close as we're gonna get right now. And like, meanwhile, like, what are we doing here? This like the street that has no names. Like, people are even here in the summer. Like, this is crazy. I feel like I'm in purgatory. Kathy, help me.
Rachel
Did you know there's like a thing called the Hollywood bowl and it happens like all night during the summer and there's like traffic. Like it's crazy, this city in the summer. I've never even seen it before.
Samantha
I mean, we bowl here in the summer. I can't.
Rachel
Why is everyone lining up to go bowling in Hollywood? Silly.
Samantha
So then we go to Boses and we have Ben's favorite. What's happening with the IVF guys? So Bose is doing her scene. We just saw this on Married to Medicine with quad. And she's doing her scene where she finds out how many eggs she got. How many eggs built houses or whatever it's called. And the eggs did not build houses, which is really sad. This really bugs me though, this storyline. And it's because I really like Bose a lot and I hate her saying things like she said here where she's like, but what about Keely? How am I going to keep Keely? I just. It bugs me. Yeah, that's.
Rachel
That. That's my thing. Like it really. I hate that there's the sense of like, oh, if I can't provide a baby for Keely, like, where do we go from here? I was like, it's like, no, no, like that's okay. Like, you know, obviously you want to have this idea of what you want to have for your future. But like, if he can't love you without a baby, then maybe I think.
Samantha
It'S fair for somebody to want a baby. You know, like if Keely wants a baby, that's totally fair. But don't date a 50 year old person and then pressure them into having a baby or you're out of there. You. You waited forever too. It's not like you may, you know, it's not like you made this decision in the right time. Either, so off. And I don't like seeing her talk like that, you know, getting so almost insecure. And I also don't like the whole I'm having a baby for a man kind of thing. Like, this will fix it. It just. It's giving me icky vibes.
Rachel
Well, I don't think there's anything wrong where, like, if you love someone and. And, you know, this is something that would make them happy, that you want to do something because you love. You know, that's. I think actually one of the weird things about love is that you actually want to do things for other people, you know. But what I don't like is the doubt that, like, if I can't do this, then, like, you know, what might happen. It's like, that should not be the issue here. And that. That's. That to me, is very sad.
Samantha
Well, I think having kid, you know, and she. I guess she wants to have kids too, I guess, but it just seems like she wants to have kids for the guy and I just. I want.
Rachel
That's how it's better for her.
Samantha
Yeah, it's coming off that way.
Rachel
Maybe she clarify on the reunion or something, but it's coming off like. Like she's doing it purely for him and that if she doesn't do it for him, then their relationship may not survive. And I think that's. That's shitty. But now we go over to Jade in Beverly Hills.
Samantha
Well, it didn't work, by the way. It didn't it that the baby. The eggs weren't. I don't know what they call it.
Rachel
They weren't like.
Samantha
They didn't. Yeah, they weren't viable. And so she's like. Well, you know, she cries and. Which is heartbreaking. And then she's like, you know, I mean, I'm almost 50 and we've got to think about kind of the reality of this, you know, And I don't know that I'm really ready to go. And he's like, oh, no, let's talk about that later as we go through the process again. Okay, we're going to be going through round two. And I was. I just didn't like that. Like, yeah, I like it.
Rachel
Well, think about it later. I'm like, stop. Just.
Samantha
Yeah, we'll think about it while you're going through the next round. That's his.
Rachel
I take a toll on her emotionally and physically. It's a lot. And she's gonna do all the. She has to do all the hard work here. He has to just sit there yeah. So now we go to this restaurant where Rachel and Sutton and Dorit arrive, and Rachel's like, guys, do I look like I slept one hour? Because I did. I slept one hour. I kept getting woken up middle of the night with my veins. There were. They were trying to fight someone because they're bad. They're bad vans.
Samantha
No, you do. First of all, where did you go? And Sutton's like, oh, she's telling Sutton like, where did you go, Sutton? And Sutton goes, where did I go? What are you talking about? And then we see a flashback of dorit saying, well, I've heard it said behind your back. You're judging me. And she says, you know, sutton's the one who told me Amanda was talking behind my back, and she's the one that started the shit show. And then she didn't even say anything at the dinner.
Rachel
And son's like, well, you know what? Like, let me tell you what she said about you. She's concerned that you're talking too much about the divorce, and then it might come back to bat you. So Dorit's like, but instead of calling Amanda out for lying, she was radio silent. And, you know, we. Sutton's like, but you're very strong and you fight your own battles. Well, and honestly, I was just. Just trying to see count to count to 135 and before I got my next beverage. Okay, so I'm really wasn't listening to what anyone else was saying.
Samantha
Yes, but I didn't want you to fight my battles. Not at all, son. Not at all. Which I'm saying to your face when behind your back, I'm saying, she should have fought me better. And Rachel's like, right, right. Well, she had an opinion and she said her opinion, and that's that. And so then we see a flashback to the. You know, did she say, he's a raging alcoholic or didn't she? And Amanda's saying, well, I mean, if it's true, she can say that. She goes, but maybe you shouldn't say that about the father for your children.
Rachel
Well, I thought that that was clear, that she had an opinion. Well, was it a loud and strong opinion? Because she basically is playing down like, dorit, you're taking this too far. This was nothing, though. There's like a nothing thought. Yeah, well, she had her own opinion about it because they're talking about Amanda, obviously, Amanda and Kyle. And Rachel's like, yeah, but I have to say, it was pretty ballsy to punt it to Kyle last night. I'm like, it wasn't that ballsy. It was, like, a pretty. Pretty obvious thing to do. I think that's, like, what you do, like, when you're. You're taking. Getting for stuff that style Kyle started. So, I mean, like, I'll deal with it.
Samantha
Yeah, I mean, I think it was pretty ballsy to, like, kind of go against Kyle and be like, kyle did it when that's your only friend on the show. And Rachel's like, well, I mean, like, when you do not own something, like, all it does is enrage the other person. And what I'm going to do, this is where she says, like, what I would do is just say, sorry, I don't know you, and I should have kept my thoughts to myself. And then, boom, it's done.
Rachel
Sutton's like, I agree. I cannot stand when people do not own things. Like, do you know there are people that lease their houses instead of buy their houses? Disgusting. No, that's not what that means. Sudden. Okay. It's different if someone owns it and apologize. Like, great, fine. Okay. Because you took it on the chin. Where do you go from? There's, like, literally nowhere you can go. It's like you're trying to go somewhere. It's like walls, walls everywhere. Because there's nowhere left to go because you've been like, you own it now, and now you're trapped. Trapped in walls, and you're broken, and you realize the walls, your closet, and they're Chanel. And then you're happy. It's great. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Activecampaign is the marketing automation platform built for big swings and big dreams. Generate ideas in seconds, import your brand, and create full campaigns with simple prompts.
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Meanwhile, Kyle and Amanda are hiking at tree people. And this looks scary. Have you ever gone hiking here?
Rachel
No, I have not. I've not hiked. I was looking at that. I was like. I was. I was like, where is this place? I think they've gone here on the show several times, though.
Samantha
It looks terrifying. It's like you're on this path, but then on both sides of you is just a very steep drop. You know, it's like, there's only the road. And I got scary because I'm a clumsy person.
Rachel
So you're safe. Ronnie.
Samantha
That was scared. Of course. I would never get that high. Anyway, who are we kidding? So, you know, they're talking about the perfect weather, and Carl's like, oh, yeah. And you did really a beautiful job on the house, by the way. That's why I sobbed in the other room and cried that you turned Portia's desk into a bar. Great job.
Rachel
Yeah. The way you got rid of my iconic checkerboard floors that I saw from Kris Jenner and my sister, like, that was really great. Like, I'm totally happy.
Samantha
I'm really happy right now.
Rachel
It's really wonderful. Samantha's like, yeah, because my life is so peaceful, like, with my family, these friendships are the only thing that's, like, not really peaceful right now. I generally believe that Dorit and I could easily clear the air around this.
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Rachel
But now I don't know what the to think. Like, she doesn't want resolve. She doesn't want to understand. She doesn't want to see where each other's coming from. She doesn't want to know about how I woke up every 30 minutes with my heart beating fast because I was having a physiological reaction to the way she was accosting me at a dinner party, which I'd never experienced before in my life.
Samantha
And Kyle's like, yeah, I was annoyed with that whole thing. You know, Amanda's not. She didn't show up for the second half of the after show filming because you know how they film one chunk of it and then they film another chunk in the second half of the season, she just stopped showing up. So they replaced her, which is a sign. You know, everyone's like, who did she quit? Did she quit mid season? Nobody knows. But Kyle's like, yeah, that was stressful. I was annoyed. And she's like, yeah, the energy she was directing at me, like, she switched it to you and then switched it back to me. I mean, that's like, nuts.
Rachel
Well, my frustration with Dorit is like, Bose could say the exact same thing that I said, and she would have a completely different reaction than she does if I say it. And we do the flashback of Cob being like, you know, saying about the Florida thing, like, just go to Florida and, like, you'll deal with it. And then Dorit's like, you don't understand. And then Bose is like, well, go to Florida, and then you'll deal with it. Thank you, Bose.
Samantha
No, because the difference was Kyle was like, if he wants to go to Florida and stay in a hotel, then he can do that, you know, and then your kids can go with the parents or whatever. And Dorit got mad, and Bose said, no, let him do whatever he wants, but make him. If he doesn't want to let the kids go to Florida, then make him be the bearer of bad news. So her point was like, you don't have to be the bad guy in this. You do whatever you want to. Don't tell the kids anything. And if someone is going to disappoint the kids, let it be pk.
Rachel
Well, either way, even if they did say the exact same thing, it would be totally justified for Dorit to be okay with what Bose says, because Bose is coming from a place of, like, genuine support. And so it's in the larger context of that relationship. Whereas with Kyle, you don't really know if she's supporting, and it just, like, you're gonna be on edge because Kyle has squandered whatever social capital she has with Dorit, and so therefore, everything's gonna be taken with a grain of salt with her.
Samantha
And Amanda's saying, I mean, you told me you experienced him as a good father, so, like, I could see how you'd be conflicted. Yeah, well, she's not the wife in that relationship, so what the. Does she know you've experienced it as a good father? Did PK raise Kyle?
Rachel
Yeah, well, regardless of what I know or don't know and all that, like, I still stand by the fact that it's smart just to not put this stuff out there, which I think, like, she's so angry, she, like, just doesn't even care, because dorit is completely blindsided to any help or advice that I want to offer her as a friend right now, and I don't know if there's a way to get back on track until she's in a better place, and I don't think she's open to that. And I think she's too angry right now with everything. So Kyle is casting dorit as the unreasonable, angry, hysterical person. And dorit is angry for sure, but Kyle also is just completely taking, like, her responsibility of the responsibility. She's taking her own responsibility of the situation out of the situation, not even making any sense. But the point is that, like, Kyle's acting like this is just all under it. Like, she's just crazy and not. Not reasonable when it's more like, Kyle, you're. You're basically rendezvousing with the other side, and it's making dorit furious, and you just don't even see what your role is in this entire situation.
Samantha
Amanda doesn't either, because she's like, oh, my God, we had so much fun talking about empowerment at lunch, and now she doesn't like me. Like, what the hell? So then we go back to the other lunch, and Tariq's like, all I've heard about is her business. I've heard. I haven't heard anything about her past bringing her couch.
Rachel
I would like to know more about that. This cult. Okay, that sounds fun. And Rachel's like, yeah, that was insane. I just want you to know I was not armed for that. Like, I was armed for fashion but not armed for cults, which is really. It's when I say I'm not armed for something, it means a lot to me because I've got bad veins in those arms.
Samantha
Okay, yeah, I wasn't armed for it, and I'm basically an arm with a head on top of it. Still not armed.
Rachel
Well, it's okay to talk about it. It's on our website so we can gossip away. You guys.
Samantha
You guys, like, am I an idiot? Like, isn't a cult something that you don't, like, actually want to say that you're a part of? Like, who brags about that on a blog?
Rachel
Like, what? She's like, ew, gross.
Samantha
Who brags about.
Rachel
Don't talk about that gross culty person, you dirty post. Cult gross.
Samantha
I think maybe she survived the cult. And so she's trying to say, like, look, I survived a cult so that maybe that's it. Drew's like, well, she claims to be very open and transparent. Yeah, that's why she wrote about the cult in the blog.
Rachel
But the term cults, like, think about it, just say it. Cult. It's really just like one. It's like two letters away down the Alphabet from being a very offensive word.
Samantha
Isn't that what like grows in old milk?
Rachel
Ew. Ew. And who talks about milk these days? Disgusting.
Samantha
So not into dairy milk. It's gross. And so it's like, yeah, it's not a good thing. Cult. Look, I just said it sounded like curse word. And dream's like, well, something is amiss and I would like to know and understand the munda because it's not what you see is what you eat.
Rachel
At the end of the day you.
Samantha
Get nothing for nothing. At the end of the day you get arms for arms. And that's what they say for the life of the armless. That's it.
Rachel
Ew. Cults. Just thought about it again. This is a process of gonna like, this is probably gonna roll out like who she really is. And I think like we have the right to ask those questions. Like, let's see who the she is. Like, here's a question. Have you ever left LA in the summer? Do you voluntarily stay here in the summer if you don't have to shoot a show? Are you gross? Like that? Is LA your cult? Ew, Gross. Get away.
Samantha
Well, what do you. What, what do you think that we can do to make her feel more open and tell us stuff? Like, how'd you end up in a cult and had you escaped from the cult? Because, like, to know that, listen, it's boring being sober. I need something to watch.
Rachel
Okay, I can do that. I can, I can tell her I have no issues with that. I'm like really good about like broaching cold stuff, even though I think it's so gross.
Samantha
Okay, but how do we make her feel more included without actually like including her? Because I don't want to go to lunch with her or anything, but I want her to feel included.
Rachel
How do we do that? Gross. No, I don't want to include her. Like, hold on one second. I'm having allergic reaction to like including her and her cult.
Samantha
Yeah. So she's like, well, I do want the story of your business because that's exciting. Like, you're self made. Great, awesome. But like that could be a deflection. Like maybe she identifies herself as her business. And that's really bad because, like people have businesses, but then like sometimes like their business is their whole personality. I'm like, your business is called Rachel.
Rachel
Zoe and it's I'm like, Rachel's oh project. Like, literally. Let's go back to us talking guys, the real friends. So, Amanda, say something. All I can do is share my truth, right? Like, I thought I was vulnerable and authentic. For me to say that I've never left a dinner party crying before, like, isn't that the most vulnerable thing you could say is that you've never cried at a dinner party?
Samantha
No, it was accusatory.
Rachel
No, it was vulnerable. You know, like, some people share really vulnerable parts about their childhood. For me, it was sharing that I'd never left a party crying before. That was, like, deep and, like, honestly brave of me to share that. And I woke up throughout the night. Did you hear about this? My heart was beating every 30 seconds. I was like. Turns out I was just blinking, but those blinks were like micronaps, and I was heart racing all throughout them. Yeah.
Samantha
And, like, it's like she's trying to dig up dirt on me, but, like, there's no dirt because it's like a cult. Like, I'm not hiding that. Like, why would I have anything in my life? It's on my blog. And I was like, yeah, you need to tell me about the cult at some point. That would be fun. Okay, well, you want to talk about it right now? No. Okay. So, you know, like, looking at Amanda, like, she doesn't exactly, like, scream cult member, but, I mean, I don't. I don't get what Dorit's trying to. To come for Amanda for. Like, what does she gain from this? Kyle, what do you gain from being friends with Amanda, you dummy? Like, that's the point you've gotten yourself to on the show, where you're only friends with the person that everyone hates for good reason. You don't like her either.
Rachel
Amanda does not speak, does not scream cult member, but she does sort of scream cult leader. I don't know. So Kyle is like, yeah, it's crazy. So Amanda's like, but to her, this isn't a bad version of herself. This is open and honest. The readers feels open and honest right now. So back to the restaurant. I need to be able to be open and honest. I need support from my friends. Right now. I'm in a place where I don't want to hold it inside, and then I have to go through this without the support. And Rachel's like, it's so poisonous.
Samantha
It's like poison. Well, I came to this year, and I really believed that me and Coyle were going to rebuild our friendship, but her action was and her words are telling me something totally different. And trust me, I know words. Now, I'm an author. You might have seen a garden scene earlier today where I said dear Diary, and talked to my readers. Now, until she starts showing up as an actual friend who supports me, I cannot continue to play this game of fake fucking friending.
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Rachel
I have protected Coil for years. I have protected Coil at all costs. Even when I felt the most betrayed, the most hurt, where her and I had no friendship or what whatsoever, I still protected her. I bought her a helmet. I went to Dick's Sporting Good, got her a helmet. I said, do you have one that has the size of someone who has a very stupid looking head? And they got it for her and I brought it to her so she's protected. That's what I did for her.
Samantha
Well, I don't think that you think that she thinks that she's like, protecting you. So, like, I don't. You just don't trust her. You just don't. Like, you don't trust her. It's like me not really trusting arms.
Rachel
Like arms have vans. Bands are bad, bands are in cults.
Samantha
And that's how we end the episode.
Rachel
So fun and funny. Thank you all for being here. Do go vote for the Crappies. Come join us in person, virtually whatever you want to do. Sign up on Patreon, do all the things, and we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye, everyone.
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Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: February 6, 2026
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Ben and Ronnie recap and hilariously deconstruct the dramatic second half of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15, Episode 8, focusing on fractured friendships, birthday party disasters, DJ ambitions, and the ever-present emotional messiness that makes RHOBH such a Bravo classic.
The episode is a continuation of the RHOBH S15E08 recap, picking up at the now-infamous birthday dinner meltdown between Dorit, Kyle, and the other housewives. Ben and Ronnie—the Watch What Crappens duo—bring their signature wit to dissect the group’s escalating emotional fragility, shifting alliances, grievances about support and judgment, and a recurring anxiety about who’s attending what birthday cake reveal. All the while, they blend in sharp character impressions, Bravo in-jokes, and commentary on luxury, privilege, and emotional intelligence (or lack thereof).
Ben and Ronnie’s signature satirical tone is ever-present, mixing sharp, quotable humor with biting insights into Housewife psychology and Bravo-lebrity excess. Their impressions exaggerate the quirks of each cast member, and the summary mirrors the highly referential, Bravo-obsessed language of true fans.
This episode captures RHOBH’s blend of epic privilege, fracturing friendships, and luxury-induced ennui, all filtered through Ben and Ronnie’s irreverent, affectionate Bravo-mockery. From birthday cake snubs, marital woes, and DJ dreams to cult scandals and the perennial search for “support,” every moment is gleefully dissected and lampooned, making this recap a must-listen (or must-read) for anyone invested in the Real Housewives universe.