#3218 RHOP S10E17 Part 1: Reunion 1 - Don’t Be Jailous

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3218 RHOP S10E17 Part 1: Reunion 1 – Don’t Be Jailous

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: February 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off the epic two-part breakdown of the Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 reunion. Ben and Ronnie bring their signature humor and Bravo expertise to dissect everything from the fallout of Dr. Wendy and Eddie's arrests, to the ever-present reunion glam, to the slightly absurd new award show categories they've invented for the annual Golden Crappies. The guys mock, analyze, and empathize with the cast through a wild mixture of shade, sincerity, and outright Bravo love.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. RHOP Recap, Golden Crappies Announcements, and Pod Updates

Timestamps: 02:07 – 08:48

• Ben and Ronnie promote their upcoming events (Crappy Hour, Golden Crappies streaming tickets, etc.) and announce the new categories and nominees for their annual Golden Crappies awards.
• Standout categories include Best Travel Drama and Most Slanderous, with a humorous rundown of this year's wildest moments and vote tallies.
• Notable stats: Real Housewives of Salt Lake City led with 15 nominations, and Adriana DeMora earned a whopping five.

“You’re a real train wreck if you lead in nominations on this show, that’s for sure.”
– Ronnie (07:53)

2. Potomac Is Back – And So Is the Drama

Timestamps: 08:48 – 09:20

• A tongue-in-cheek lament about RHOP being off for a week, now returning for a dramatic reunion part one.
• The episode teases the Potomac In Crisis mood — especially focusing on the storm around Dr. Wendy and Eddie's arrests.

3. The Wendy & Eddie Scandal: Montage, Sadness, and Shade

Timestamps: 09:20 – 17:53

• The reunion opens with a montage of Wendy’s journey: from high-achieving academic to accused fraudster.
• Ronnie and Ben joke about the wish to see more “fall from grace” drama on screen: “I want to see the new columns in her house being repossessed while she’s sitting on the couch.” (10:02)
• They make light of Wendy looking surprisingly refreshed after jail, pondering “jailhouse glow.”

“They looked fantastic. So whatever they're doing in jail over there... do you think they get better jail because that's where all our taxes go?”
– Ronnie (11:41)

• Analysis of the couple’s muted, “victim” narrative about the arrest—hosts poke fun at their lack of denial: “It’s interesting because they basically say nothing in this scene of like, I can’t believe we were falsely accused..." – Ben (13:47)

4. Punishments, Race, and Crime Philosophy — Getting Real

Timestamps: 16:31 – 20:59

• Ben and Ronnie discuss white collar crime punishments, contrasting the likely sentencing based on social factors and race (“I think if they probably were a wealthy white couple... they would get a slap on the wrist.” – Ben, 16:55).
• Ronnie weighs the ethics — “as a gay who loves theater,” he wants better “theatrics” in their alleged insurance fraud. He admits to not wishing jail on Wendy but suggests: “The theater was bad, and you need to go to jail for that.” (17:24)
• The hosts reflect on punishments fitting the crime, expressing some sympathy but keeping it light:

“God's got us. That's why we made it this far, girl. God does not have you.”
– Ronnie (20:34)

5. Reunion Arrival: Glamour vs. Trauma

Timestamps: 21:36 – 31:13

• After the heavy segment, the episode pivots comedic as the cast assembles in New York for the reunion—Ben notes the whiplash from crying in sweats to “ballgown for the reunion.”
• The fashion is dissected, especially everyone’s identical red dresses, Stacy’s Nigerian designer, and old feuds reanimated by seating assignments.
• The hosts highlight the transition from real-life scandal to reality TV camp:

"It's just the nature of the show. It's not an indictment on Wendy. Although I shouldn't even say the word indictment..."
– Ben (22:31)

6. Live on the Reunion Stage: Andy’s Questions, Cast Banter

Timestamps: 31:14 – 41:26

• Andy Cohen opens the reunion, poking at horse-themed décor, asking about “new boobs," and welcoming the newbies (“did you gain any friends out of it?”).
• Playful shade is thrown about reunion nerves, Sophia’s “season two glown” (31:13), and housewives’ ever-tight dresses:

“How do you breathe? Why are you doing that to yourself? It looks like it hurts.”
– Ronnie (30:14)

• Andy presses Wendy about her arrest, and she gives the standard vague “ongoing investigation” answer.
• The discussion turns to family impact, focusing on Wendy’s son finding out about his parents’ arrest online, prompting an empathetic exchange:

“It’s actually a very heartbreaking story. I feel really terrible for the kids.”
– Ben (35:06)

• Giselle immediately pivots to wig shade:

“So was the nap the reason why the wig was a little...you know, to the side?”
– Giselle (35:56)

7. Housewives Mugshots, More Shade, and Parallels in Bravo Crime

Timestamps: 41:27 – 48:11

• Ben and Ronnie go down a rabbit hole ranking the best Real Housewives mugshots: Luann’s as “perfection,” Sonja Morgan’s “like a Roman statue," Tinsley’s “crazy 90s eyebrows.”
• The hosts joke about mugshot “glam” and riff on the now-infamous Wendy grin (“Did you pop a Happy Eddie before you went in there?” – Giselle, 42:06).
• Ronnie and Ben ponder the treatment disparities between Wendy and Karen Huger ("they are babying Wendy a lot more...Karen didn't show up to the reunion either, but Wendy was not kind about Karen when she went to jail”).

8. Deeper Themes — Race, Reputation, and Fall from Grace

Timestamps: 46:05 – 48:11

• Analysis of the “tragedy” in Wendy’s story versus Karen’s, lamenting the fall from grace of a respected academic and public persona (“Wendy, you were supposed to be the best of us…” – Ben, 47:59).
• The recurring theme: Housewives reality can take down “anyone,” no matter their pedigree.

9. Final Thoughts and Notable Quotes

• Ashley Darby manages to make Wendy’s storyline about her own “fear of jail,” to widespread side-eye:

“Oh wow. Wow. So terrifying. Shut up, Ashley.”
– Ben (48:23)

• The episode concludes with a plug for Part 2 of the recap.

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Notable Quotes

• “You’re a real train wreck if you lead in nominations on this show, that’s for sure.” – Ronnie (07:53)
• “I want to see the new columns in her house being repossessed while she’s sitting on the couch.” – Ronnie (10:02)
• “They looked fantastic. So whatever they're doing in jail over there... do you think they get better jail because that's where all our taxes go?” – Ronnie (11:41)
• “God's got us. That's why we made it this far, girl. God does not have you.” – Ronnie (20:34)
• “How do you breathe? Why are you doing that to yourself? It looks like it hurts.” – Ronnie (30:14)
• “It's just the nature of the show. It's not an indictment on Wendy. Although I shouldn't even say the word indictment...” – Ben (22:31)
• “You had fun in the process? Did that not make it onto the show? Because as far as I could tell, you were crying every episode and complaining that people weren't getting to know the real you.” – Ben (30:09)
• “I just have a question. We've been talking about incest on this network quite a bit. Would it be incest if I fucked your brother?” – Ronnie (32:18)
• “It’s actually a very heartbreaking story. I feel really terrible for the kids.” – Ben (35:06)
• “So was the nap the reason why the wig was a little...you know, to the side?” – Giselle (35:56)
• “Did you pop a Happy Eddie before you went in there? Because you looked high as fuck.” – Giselle (42:06)
• “Wendy, you were supposed to be the best of us...you were a professor. The rest of us are like, you've done so many amazing things in your life. And, like, oh, no.” – Ben (47:59)
• “Oh wow. Wow. So terrifying. Shut up, Ashley.” – Ben (48:23)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Golden Crappies nominees & new categories: 03:35–08:48
• Wendy & Eddie’s Post-arrest Scene: 09:20–17:53
• Discussion of Race & Crime/Punishment Dynamics: 16:31–20:59
• Transition from Real-Life Drama to Reunion Glam: 21:36–22:31
• Backstage Reunion Banter/Arrivals: 22:31–31:13
• Andy’s Reunion Questions & Mugshot Chat: 31:14–41:26
• Mugshot Ranking Tangent: 41:27–44:05
• Wendy vs. Karen, Crime Sympathy Analysis: 46:05–48:11

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Memorable Moments

• The hilarious recurring speculation about Potomac’s “jailhouse glow” skincare secrets.
• Ben and Ronnie’s obsessive mugshot analysis (Sonja as a "Roman statue!").
• Ronnie fuming over lackluster insurance fraud “theater.”
• The hosts’ gleeful mockery of Bravo’s horse-themed reunion set.

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Tone and Style

As always, Ben and Ronnie deliver their commentary with sharp wit, deep Bravo lore, unfiltered honesty, and a generous dose of campy affection for the genre. Sarcasm, shade, and pop culture rabbit holes keep the recap every bit as entertaining as the RHOP reunion itself.

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This summary covers the full meat of the episode. For more wild RHOP reunion takes and Bravo obsessions, check out Part 2 of the recap!

Transcript

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[B]

Hello and welcome to Watch what Happens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello Ben.

[A]

Hi. How's it going?

[B]

I'm doing okay. Was really rough. I'm going through the worst time in my life. I know. Dr. Wendy. Dr. Wendy's post prison scene. I can't everybody. Welcome to Real Housewives of Potomac Day. If you want this as a video recap, that's on our Patreon as as ad free listening bonus episodes on the Traders and our newsletter. The newsletter is free every week. Also tonight is Crappy Hour. We're having guest Elizabeth Day from the how to Fail pod. She's amazing, hilarious and British. So really smart. Really smart. At least sounding so she is going to be with us tonight at 5:30 Pacific Time, which is every other Monday. We're also going to do a special crappy hour next week, next weekend live in Florida at the South Beach Food and Wine Festival. Why did they ask us to do that? We don't know. But we're so excited that we get to go do it. They're having a podcast day on the 21st and we're gonna be one of the podcasts. So come see us. It's like 2:15pm okay. That's it. You can watch us pig out on things. Yeah. So that's gonna be super fun. And then of course, the Golden Crappies, which has just sold out. So that's sold out. But what's not sold out on February 27th are live streaming tickets. So go grab your live streaming tickets over at watch what crappens.com and join us for the fun.

[A]

Now, two things. One is that the replay of the show is gonna be available for two weeks afterwards. So, like, you'll have time. If you can't, like get into your seat for the live, live moment, you can still watch it the next day or whatever, especially if you're on the east coast and that's late for you. And second of all, the nominations just came out this morning. They were just finally, you guys voted for about two weeks. And we took the top, the top of each category. And those are the nominees. Some were, there were some nominees that were separated by like literally seven votes. So if it seemed like it basically it was within 30 or 40 votes, we called that a tie and put it up there. So some categories, most of them have five nominees, some have six, some go even higher. But just a sneak preview of what is on the ballot, which you can [e-mail] or it's the link in our bio for any social media media. So we have, we're going to announce today who is nominated for best Bravo show of the year. That's Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Real Housewives of, of Miami, the Valley, Next Gen New York City, Summer House and Married to Medicine. Wow, this was wild. I, I was so surprised that Next Gen New York City snuck up in there. It was like over some other really big behemoths. So that was a really cool category to see.

[B]

And Married to Medicine too. I mean, Married to Medicine's not always on that list. So it was cool to see people come out and vote for that. You know, Married to Medicine's still going strong 10 years in. Still going strong 10 years in 12 years in whatever. How many ever years in decade in.

[A]

They're still decade. Yeah, I think it's 12 years. I think it's 12 years at this point. Some other ones, Bravo Liberty of the year. Jennifer Tilly, Stacey Rush, Paige desorbo, Kristen Doute, Gabby Windy. Technically not a Bravo Liberty, but we all loved her on the Traders from last season. And Zach Wickham from the Valley and Rob Roush from the Traders. I can't believe Rob made it in there, but he was right up in the mix there. So that's going to be a real interesting category. And then the fun thing is and then we have a ton. We're not going through every category, but notably we added in two more categories after round one finished. And because why not? It's our show. We decided we wanted to so the first new category that you can vote on is best travel drama. So here are the nominees. On best travel drama, Stephanie oversees private plane logistics on Miami. Meredith Marks has unconfirmed emotional reaction on flight while watching crazy rich Asians. Salt Lake City, the season finale roaming around in Colorado, Potomac. Lisa Hoxine arrives two hours late to a sprinter van. And finally, Kristen Doty acting chaotically while Luke tries to propose to her on a boat. That is best travel travel drama.

[B]

And what's the other one we're going to talk about?

[A]

The other one is the other new one is most slanders. You want to read those nominations?

[B]

Most slanderous. Adriana accuses Marisol of having dry, wrinkly knees on Real Housewives of Miami. Lisa Barlow accuses Bronwyn of sucking gout afflicted dick on Salt Lake City. Also Salt Lake City, Lisa Barlow claims Todd farts while making out with a friend. The former fatty drama on Real Housewives of Orange County. And Giselle accusing Angel of being a catfish on this year's show, Real Housewives of Potomac.

[A]

Lots of lots of crazy stuff. And of course I, I ran numbers because I like to act like this is a real, real award show. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City earned 15 nominations. The Valley had 11, Miami had 10, Summer House got nine. And next gen New York City had eight. And it goes on from there. But those are the top five vote getters. And in terms of individuals, the person who had the most nominations was Adriana Demora. She got five nominations but some but she actually did not get nominated for Bravo Liberty of the year for which she was a contender in round one. But she wound up with with five and then with number with four nominations. Lisa Barlow and three, Zach Wickham. So. And everyone else had, like, one or two. So there you go.

[B]

Yeah, there you go.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Something. Something to be proud of. You're a real train wreck if you lead in nominations on this show, that's for sure.

[A]

Seriously. Well, Haitian mortician really earned Adriana. That sort of wound up in a lot of different categories. So she. And it was a combination of Haitian morticians and Marisol's dry, wrinkly knees, who's just sort of the mix of some really amazing fights this year.

[B]

Yeah. And always. Every year. And she always kind of gets the shaft anyway, so it's fitting that she has the most nominations but doesn't get Bravo. Liberty of the year. It's just how it rolls, guys. Life. It's not fair, is it? But go vote. You can find the links@watch whatcrappens.com, everybody. All right, so today, big episode of Potomac. You know, I felt like Potomac had been gone a long time because they were off last week, and then before that, we just got the Karen interview one. So it's been a minute, and I miss them forever. And it was so good to have them back for their reunion part one.

[A]

Well, they got lost. They were still driving around in Colorado, so we needed a few weeks before we could get the reunion ready.

[B]

Yeah, they were still trying to find somewhere to clean their butts or whatever they keep saying on this show. But, yeah, it's reunion part one. And we opened with a dun, dun, dun. Birds tweeting, but, like, calling. You know, it's like. It's like sad bird. Cause and deer just hiding. You know, the deer, like, oh, and it's Potomac in a dramatic time because Wendy and Eddie have been arrested.

[A]

Yes. And we see a whole montage, which the montage doesn't really say what it's about, but it's basically stating, oh, here in 2020, we meet Dr. Wendy. And back then, she was very concerned about being known as Dr. Wendy. You call me Dr. Wendy. And about her accomplishments.

[B]

I have four degrees.

[A]

I'm Dr. Wendy to you. But then it's like 2021, new bibs. And she cares about glamour and money and things like this, and she's being corrupted. And that's basically what this montage is showing of, like, she came in as an academic, and now Fast forward to 2025, and she has gone to jail.

[B]

Yeah, they wanted to make this a very sad scene for. And it kind of was in a lot of ways, because, you know, she has kids and stuff like that. So there was some sadness there. But come on, man. I want to see like the new columns in her house being repossessed while she's sitting on the couch. I want to see movers. I want to see movers in the house. I want to see flow from progressive. Just walking around there like, I'm taking this back. Okay, I'll be taking that back. Come take that ring right off her finger. A lot of people were speculating, is that the ring? Is that the ring that Wendy's in trouble for? I hope that Wendy is not dumb enough to be wearing that same ring that she was in trouble for on the show. She's trying to get pity in the scene that she's trying to get pity. So I don't think it was the ring, but I don't know. Am I an insurance adjuster? I'm not just a man in a fuzzy sweater.

[A]

Yeah, I get it. So we have a very somber scene of Eddie and Wendy sitting in the living room. And Wendy's like, I'm here, baby. I feel like I'm in a constant nightmare. Like, the house doesn't even feel the same. I have to eat, but I'm not hungry. And like, I just have no desire for appetite. No nothing. I don't know. I don't know, honey. Like, you called it. Her voice was like this soft little whisper. I was like, what is happening here? I don't have any desire.

[B]

It's called the GLP1. Okay. Be thankful. Be thankful. Be thankful that we've got them. You know how many non starving children there are in the world because they don't have access to GLP1s.

[A]

The two of them both also looked physically different. I was like, when they were spent that night in jail, did they get some work done?

[B]

I know they looked good.

[A]

Why did they look.

[B]

Actually, yeah, they looked. Especially Eddie. I mean, Eddie looked really bad in his photo as we get to later, but he in his prison photo. But he looks great here. I was like, wow, did they moisturize you in jail? Like, what happened? You got like a great facial. They look. They look fantastic. So whatever they're doing in jail over there, because Karen came out looking pretty good too. So whatever's happening in jail over there, I mean, do you think they get better jail because that's where all our taxes go.

[A]

Sure. Let's start that conspiracy theory. It sounds good to me. The Potomac Jail, it's gorgeous. If they get food catered by the Tally Ho restaurant, it's time for a commercial.

[B]

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[B]

That would be Bravo's punk. Like the most heartless punks in the world. I sent you to prison and terrified your children.

[A]

I know. Bravo would 100 do that? So Wendy is like, never in my wildest dreams did I think it would lead to us being taken away in handcuffs. It's so crazy. It feels like a bad dream. So it's interesting because they basically say nothing in this scene of like, I can't believe we were falsely accused. They're just like, it just feels like a bad dream. Bad dream. When we were arrested for our fraud here, I thought we would do. I think the dream is that you commit fraud and you don't get arrested.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's.

[A]

And you're a public figure.

[B]

Yeah. So it's a bad. It's a bad dream. You know, I mean, of course they're. They're upset. They got arrested. They went to jail. It sucks. Yeah, I would be too. But, you know, they are very good at turning it to where it's like. But it's one of the victims here. No, no. You know, no. Sorry.

[A]

It seems like the evidence is pretty strong.

[B]

Yeah. So they're talking about how they heard Cameron in the background, and she's talking about how it's not fair because Cameron's so innocent. And, you know, when she told her that she was gonna go spend the night with her auntie, Cameron was just so excited just to hear her voice and, you know, she was worried about the kids. And then she goes, and do you think this is gonna affect our marriage? And wow, throw the gauntlet early.

[A]

Like, geez, yeah, seriously. He's like, I mean, it has impact and I think it's gonna impact us. And she goes, I just know that after this incident, I'm not the same person. And I hope that'll be okay with you, because I'm not the same. I don't think I'll ever be the same. Well, I feel like you probably won't ever be a professor again, that's for sure. If that counts. I would you think that she was priming for a. I'm divorcing Eddie. Eddie drew me into this mess and I am divorcing him. Yada, yada, yada. That Teresa Giudice path of leaving Joe Giudice.

[B]

Well, the Teresa path was a little bit easier because Teresa is literally like, people will like poke her to get into a house. Like she's a ding dong, you know. Yeah. But Wendy and Eddie have all those emails, you know, and she has all the. The DBAs. Not DBAs. What am I trying to say? The aliases and Social Security numbers and stuff like that. So it's not gonna be as easy for her, I don't think, to get out of there. But yeah, I do think she's kind of probably laying down that foundation to.

[A]

Be like, I'm leaving you because I trusted you in this thing.

[B]

And he might even be okay with it if it means, you know, one of them is out to. To be with the kids and stuff. There's so much white collar crime. I don't know that they're really going to go to jail. Do you go to jail for white collar crime? Do people still go to jail for that?

[A]

Yeah, you do. And especially like, if you're a public Persona and like, there's other social elements that go into it. You know, I think if they were, honestly, I think if they probably were like a wealthy white couple from Connecticut, they would get like a slap on the wrist. But I think that the system is unfortunately, you know, works against people like Wendy and Eddie. So I think it's going to be. I think it's going to be hard for them.

[B]

Yeah, this is, you know, this is an interesting one because they did wrong. I mean, most of us have read the emails and seen what they're accused of and what they most likely did or did or did. And part of it is just. It was so stupid. The crime was so stupid. As we talked about earlier, like, the just. The faking, the robbery was just done so poorly. I mean, come on, be trickier, you know, like, make a better scene. And so as a gay who loves.

[A]

Theater, as a gay, you know, I just. As a gay, as a theater gay.

[B]

As someone who really likes a theatrical experience, I was just like, the theater was bad. It was bad theater, and you need to go to jail for that. Now, as far as robbing insurance companies, I mean, insurance companies are kind of a big evil, and I don't know that anybody's really rooting for the insurance company. So it's kind of a tricky one, you know, Eddie. And, you know, Wendy goes up and down, in my opinion, every depending on the season, as most Bravo cast members do. But I do still like Wendy, and I don't want her to go to jail. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I don't want her go to jail.

[B]

I don't want either of them to go to jail. But I mean, okay, ask people here who had their houses burned down how good the insurance is to you.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Although Progressive does have a new funny commercial, two really funny commercials out right now. So I'll. I'll take my wrath out on, like, I don't know, someone else. The. The. The Liberty emu. I don't like that thing, but, you.

[B]

Know, yeah, Rob Liberty. Rob Liberty.

[A]

The Liberty commercials are really bad, like, across the board. Like, the emu is not doing it for me. I think it's like, just a sad attempt to try to, like, fall in the footsteps of the Geico and like, the Affleck Duck. And it's just like, you're too late on that front. And then the other type of the other brand they have where they're just like people sitting on a bench in front of Statue of Liberty. Those are actually even the worst of the worst. Progressive is like, the gold standard flow is hilarious. I love the one that they're airing right now where they go to, like, have you seen this one where they go to the improv show? They've been showing up throughout the whole Olympics where there's like an improv troupe that's, like, on stage and they're like, okay, Give us a word. They're like. They're like life insurance or something like that. Like, okay, well, how about something else? Like, how about the fact that we're progressive, you can earn? And they're like, the improv are like, what the fuck? I like, laugh at that one every time. And then they have a new one out.

[B]

That's where she comes from. Stephanie Courtney, she's the. She's a ground thing.

[A]

That's what I was telling Dom. I was like this. I was like, dom, this commercial must be very special to her because she can be on the ground. Like, Zomb's like, great, thanks. I'm like, guys, it's emotional. She's back to her roots. And they have another one where there's like a lady who they say she's passive progressive instead of passive aggressive. And there's like a lady who's just, like, totally passive aggressive to her friends. The whole commercial, I was like, yes. So they're really doing it for me right now with their content.

[B]

Totally. If they. If Wendy and Eddie robbed flow, you'd be pissed. But if they rob the emu. You're okay is what.

[A]

You're totally okay. No, but I Getting back to that, though, I do think, like, I mean, you know, if you commit a crime, you should do the time, you know, like, you should get. Deal with the punishment. However, I would be really upset if their punishment were like some like, egregious, like a 10 years, 15 years in prison when there are people who will literally take in other people's lives who in some cases haven't even been charged. So I think that, like, in this case, like this, I'm kind of like, like, you know, you should be. You should be punished. I don't think you should ever be able to break the law, even if it's like sticking it to like a, you know, you know, the insurance agencies. Insurance companies. But I would, like. I don't. I don't think that they should be, like, incarcerated for like, years and years and years and years. But you know what? I don't know.

[B]

Well, my favorite thing is when people get in trouble for doing something especially illegal, and then they say things like this. God's got us. That's why we made it this far, girl. God does not have you. Otherwise that robbery would have looked decent. God would have knocked some stuff over in your house while you were gone to make it look like a robbery. God does not have you in this.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I think if God had you in this, you would have for sure found a better way.

[B]

That's not God's job to make it okay. After you committed fraud, you wound up.

[A]

On the Real Housewives. There's just no world in which someone winds up on the Real Housewives. And you say, yeah, God's got them. I don't think so.

[B]

I think God gives up on you the second you enter the Real Housewives universe.

[A]

God was checking something on the stove and then turned around and you were gone. Like, whoa, where'd they go?

[B]

God's like, listen, I can't save anybody in Housewives because I need to root for them all equally, okay? They're my tv. I can't pick favorites here, okay? You're all fucked.

[A]

Just.

[B]

I'll catch you on the flip side. So it's three months later, and now it's 5:30am and it's pre show, and everybody's arriving. And the music, it goes from Wendy.

[A]

Being like, oh, my God, I don't.

[B]

Think I'm ever gonna be able to speak to you again.

[A]

I don't know if our marriage is gonna last.

[B]

And it's like, bom. It's all happy again. It's like, okay, jail segments over. Bring out the sequence. We're in New York for the reunion.

[A]

Well, it's also such a pivot because it's like the scene where they're on their sofa and they're. They're. They've gone through this traumatic experience of being arrested and going to jail and. And when he's just in sweat, it's like, this is. This is me and my most raw state. Like, I don't have glam. It's like I'm just. Oh, my God. I'm a changed person. And now I'm in sweats. Just kidding. I'm in a ball gown for the reunion. It's just sort of like this moment of, like, raw to here I am as glamorous as possible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just the nature of the show. It's not an indictment on Wendy. Although I shouldn't even say the word indictment, but, yeah. So now we're backstage and things are happening. Ashley's very excited because she sees Karen's name on a dressing room. She's like, oh, my gosh, you're really gonna be here. And people start coming to the stage. Giselle's in there first, and Andy warns her. Well, Andy warns Giselle, like, you're gonna be. You're gonna be sitting next to Wendy. And she's like, oh, am I supposed to hold her hand? Because Giselle does Not want anything to do with anyone who's been arrested, unless it's Karen.

[B]

Hey there, Giselle. What are you looking forward to today? I'm looking forward to, you know, Wendy's State of the Union address, and Ashley's like, I would just be here as a nine. Just needs to come and have it. And then that would be amazing. More people are arriving, and everyone is very red. I mean, usually they have, like, a color palette that they get to pick from. You know, it's like, red Ish. But, man, they're all in the exact same color red today. And Stacy's like, oh, thank you. I look like a. It's a Nigerian designer today.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you very much. And as she's like, I think it's the same one that I wore last year. And we see that last year when Ashley had that thing with sort of like this. The. The horns coming up over out of her chest. It's kind of. It's like the same designer and kind of the same look. It's like, oh, same dress, huh? Yeah, same designer. And Stacey's like, I haven't even sat down yet. Taking a breath in before. You're coming for me.

[B]

Why are you looking at it through a negative lens? Cheese. So then everybody's just saying hi, and they're making jokes about having running water, because Giselle's like, you smell good, Tia. She goes, yes, I had running water today, so thank you. And you just see what's her buns on the couch like, ugh. I do not appreciate your running water joke. I'm angel, and I've come to play. Now, since they shot this, Angel's been doing interview after interview, which, God bless all these podcasts. You want to interview Angel? Angel. But she's on a lot of them, and I've seen a bunch of clips from them, and she's promising, oh, you'll see a different side of me at this reunion. I am coming for these ladies. So I'm excited.

[A]

You're gonna get to know me.

[B]

You will get to know me. I've got the fire of an outdoor grill burning for these ladies. A fire burning that could have cooked the outdoor salmon that they were gonna eat on the day we all got lost. Oh, I'm coming for you, ladies. I'm coming for you.

[A]

So Wendy shows up and like, wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Love your hair. Okay, feathers. So now it's time to start the reunion. Hey, everyone. I'm Andy Cohen, and welcome to Real House.

[B]

I'm so sorry to stop you. I just wanted to Say before we stop this, I didn't think of it until you had already started talking. And that's how I roll. Okay? I'm an interrupter. Sorry.

[A]

You'll get to know me.

[B]

But this whole Wendy, you know, I know that the stuff they're going through isn't great, but I love that Wendy can use it to her advantage. And you have to give her credit for that. The first scene was pretty well played. You know, I thought it was a load of bullshit, but I think a lot of people probably bought it. And then this thing where she comes in last and makes the grand entrance, and then, you know, it's like, right before filming goes, so everybody's kind of on their seat and she gets the diva entrance, and then she gets the first seat. I was like, wow, she's really working this. You know, people are gonna start getting in trouble and going to jail on purpose because she's, like, getting the best edit now.

[A]

Yeah, people are jealous for sure.

[B]

Wow, look at that jailhouse glow she's got. Why does her skin look so good? I wanna go to jail. We should look at the numbers next year and see if stats are up of just, like, women who look really good going to jail. Yeah, Glamorous people.

[A]

We'll have to see if. If Pew Research is covering that topic.

[B]

Well, Gallop's not busy.

[A]

Gallup is not busy. Gallup has some extra time. So Andy is like, well, it's hard to believe it's been a decade since we introduced the world to the quiet little enclave of Potomac, Maryland. And what a ride it has been. You may have noticed the equestrian theme. That's because you ladies hosted an inordinate number of horse theme events this season. And by the way, there's this, like, sculpture of a horse sticking its head into the reunion set. Like, it's at, like. It's at, like, a stable. They cut to that thing so many times during this reunion. And so I'm like, are they just gonna ask it a question already? Like, how many times we have to see his face? It's all like.

[B]

Or it's just poking in there. Start some drama. Yeah. Well, we've got two OGs on the stage. Ashley, Giselle, did either one of you get new boobs?

[A]

Either one of you?

[B]

Come on. Come on, guys. The horse got new boobs. I'd like to introduce the horse.

[A]

Your new boobs. Look great, horse.

[B]

I have children.

[A]

Horses, new boobs.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What do you have to say to that?

[A]

God is with you. Okay. Did the horse commit a crime? I don't know what's going on there.

[B]

So he's like, did you ever imagine that this. The show would turn into what it is? And Giselle's like, absolutely not. But I knew that I would be friends with Ashley, you know, because the second I knew her, I knew she was special. Oh, okay. Are we gonna forget. Are we gonna forget how you treated Ashley in the beginning? You were like, that whore. I don't hang out with Slutsa.

[A]

Yeah, it only took you eight seasons to start to be sort of friendly to Ashley.

[B]

Ashley had to audition to be your henchman for, like, eight years until you were an ice star. She's like, I always knew why. I always knew why.

[A]

What was it like for you two shooting this season without Karen? Giselle's like, it was tough. Now she goes, it felt foreign. Like, she's such an integral part of it. Yes. I love to argue with Karen and punch down. You know, it's fun when you see that old drunkard sitting by the bar and knowing that she's gonna say something stupid if you just poke the bear just a little bit. Ah. But she wasn't there, so not as fun.

[B]

Well, Karen wasn't on the season, but, you know, she is here today. That's why we've put a full bar on the stage. Hope it's not tempting. It's like, God, you guys are so insensitive.

[A]

And by the way, just so you know, before Karen comes out, we're going to need to put a ring of maxi pads on the sofa. Thank you very much.

[B]

So he does his usual. I'd love that. Andy never changes this because it's, you know, it could be done with more grace, you know, but he never changes it. He doesn't care. He's just like, hi, Tia. Hi, Giselle. Hi, Angel. Okay, get through. What is this, kindergarten? No, get through it.

[A]

Seriously.

[B]

So I wish kindergarten was like that. Hey, angel, did you get new boobs? Hey, did you get some work done? You don't look the same as you did last year.

[A]

Angel and Tia, you are season 10 newbies. What were your expectations coming onto the show? And Angel's like, well, my expectations was just to come in, meet a new group of ladies, and maybe gain some friends out of it. And how did that go? I already know the answer, and I'm already gonna say, ha, ha. She goes, well, you know, it was definitely a rough landing, but I had some fun in the process. I'm like, you had fun in the process? Did that not make it onto the show? Because as far as I could tell, you were crying every episode and complaining that people weren't getting to know the real you.

[B]

Well, I'm glad you're not nervous. Well, my chest is a little tight. It's your dress.

[A]

It's your dress.

[B]

My God, these ladies have. And they do it, I think, on most of the Housewives shows. But they've got such big boobs, you know, and then their dresses are just, like, so tight. How do you breathe? How do you breathe? Why are you doing that to yourself? It looks like it hurts.

[A]

It's like a Leanne Rhyme song. How do you breathe in that dress? I want tuner. So, ts Dia, what was your expectations? Well, you know, I moved to the DMV in Covid, so for me, I was really eager to make some friends and meet new people. Otherwise, I'm stuck at home with my husband, whatever his name is, sitting there boringly letting the children spill kool aid on the floor. I don't like it. I think I accomplished that. I made new friends.

[B]

Oh, and you, Stacy, it's your second season. Did you experience a sophomore slump or a season two? Glow up? She's like, oh, a little bit of both.

[A]

I had a rough season.

[B]

But I do appreciate the ways that I've grown. And glown with my girl Wendy.

[A]

Glown. Okay.

[B]

Glown is a word, Andy. It's glown. It's a word.

[A]

You know, you take the good with the bad. You know, take the good, take the bad, Take them both. And there you have a stunning set of earrings, and he's like, glow. It's a word. I made it up, Will, you started.

[B]

As a friend, but you've been holding a flute for the last two seasons. And housewives are expected to share more about their personal lives. By the way, I'm talking to Kieran now. If anybody cares. And you were a friend. Now you're a housewife, and you have to share more. So how has that adjustment been for you? Just ask her. You know, what is it like having to pay rent on a fake condo? You were pretending to have your girl power season on. Just ask her, Kieran.

[A]

We kind of broke through the glass ceiling of incest on Vanderpump rule. So that's my question of can you dump Greg and just marry your hot brother? We'd like to see more of him.

[B]

I just have a question. We've been talking about incest on this network quite a bit. Would it be incest if I. Your brother.

[A]

Ken was like, well, I think that last year, I Kind of warmed up to me a bit. And so, like, this year, I just sort of settled in and, you know, I'm just, like, having fun with it, like, a little bit more. Okay, great. We'll talk to you in about four more hours. Okay. Wendy, how are you?

[B]

Oh, I'm so good. I'm so good. Andy, he's like, well, you've been on this show half its life, and, God, almost as long as you'll probably be in prison. How would you compare the Wendy who started on the show to the Wendy today? She's like, well, the Wendy who started on this show was so unsure of herself, Andy. I had just given birth to Cameron maybe two months before we picked up cameras. And to see that my first season and to go through the transformation, the literal transformation, it has been empowering in a different way to just look at myself and see all the different parts. Amazing.

[A]

Wow, that's great. Which is my code for saying I wasn't listening. Wendy, the elephant in the room is that there are some serious things happening in your world. On October 9th, you and your husband Eddie were arrested. You're facing 16 counts of alleged fraud. What can you tell us about what's happening in the case?

[B]

Well, I can say the investigation is still ongoing, Andy. And I can say that we've had a court appearance and, you know, it's been very trying time for my family. It's been a very trying time. Please, no photographs. Please, no photographs. Those are cameras for the reunion. But still. But still, have some respect.

[A]

I love that. What she can tell us is that the investigation is still going on. Like, yeah, we know. It's like, what can you tell us? Like, can you. Do not say what happened? Tell us.

[B]

So what are you supposed to say? Well, I called myself Pam Oliver, got a few Social Security numbers and just robbed Andy. I did as much robbing as I possibly could and the fuckers copied me.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, we all just want to hear her excuse of, like, well, there's what happened that day. So Andy. So Andy asks, like, how's the. How are the children handling it? And, like, Cameron is young and doesn't realize, but Carter is older and he basically, he knew something was up because he suddenly had to spend the night at, like, his mom and sisters. And then he basically, he went on his phone and he saw it all and. And he didn't tell anyone. So he went to sleep with this weighing on him, which was so sad, actually. And then the next day, they picked him up from school, pretending like nothing is wrong. And then he started to cry, essentially, and they. They held him. And now they're very open and transparent with him. It's actually a very heartbreaking story. I feel really terrible for the kids. I mean, we're sitting here joking about this, but those poor kids are like, they have to deal with this in the news every day. It's very sad.

[B]

I was just impressed that Wendy took a nap because she said that when the police came, she was actually taking a nap. And I was impressed because during her wife's SW episode, she was like, this woman takes naps. Who does that? You can't take a nap as a mother. I never take a nap. I'm a mother. A mother who doesn't nap. Like, that was her big. That was one of her big things in that episode. Like, I cannot believe I've met a mother that naps. And she learned something, you know, so maybe they do take things from each other on Wife Swap. You know, she's like, I learned to nap. Thank you, Wife Swap lady.

[A]

So Wendy has this whole monologue about how difficult it was and it was very emotional and her poor son having to go through it. But now they tell her son. Every time they have their court thing, they tell the son, they loop him in, they keep it very transparent, and it's like a. It's like a very nice moment. And Giselle goes, so was the nap the reason why the wig was a little, you know, to the side?

[B]

You know, she's like, baby.

[A]

Still asking the pressing questions.

[B]

Just go, baby. Well, it was to the side. It was twisted a little bit.

[A]

Die.

[B]

That wig was wigging, baby. She's like, okay, Giselle.

[A]

It was a nap wig. It was the nap wig.

[B]

It was her nap wig. She said, it's like, it wasn't my nap wig. It wasn't my nap wig. That was my professor wig.

[A]

Stacy was like, that wasn't your professor wig? No, no, no.

[B]

He's like, so how do you explain your shit eating grin in that photo? That was terrifying. People are making smile posters from it. And she's like, well, you know, listen, the guy was taking my picture. You know, he was very nice. He was very nice to me. Andy, he was like, give me another look. Give me another look. You know, I was quiet. He was trying to make me feel better. So, you know, we made it. We made it feel like a modeling shoe. He handed me a cardboard box and said, pretend it's a Birkin you stole. So it was a fun day.

[A]

I don't know if I believe this I feel like they do, like, one shot, you know, I have not been in this position yet, but I sort of get the feeling like it's the. They're like, okay, you're going to take your. We're going to get one shot and move on. We've got a lot of people to process.

[B]

You never know when you're going to get a Housewives fan. You don't know where they're going to appear, you know, and you don't know when it's going to be helpful.

[A]

No one has been able to reach the highs of Countess Luann de la Saps with her. Her mug shot. Because that mug shot that Countess Luann has that is such perfection. The way she's sort of looking down. So she's sad, but she's smiling like they're going to try to fucking get me. You'll never be able to keep me down, you know? Like, there's that guy.

[B]

Evil look in her.

[A]

She's like, so amazing.

[B]

Try it again, copper. Try it again. They put me in handcuffs once. Ask them how that went.

[A]

It's just. It's just so good. That wrinkled right out of a smile, looking dead on like, you'll never get me. I mean, when you compare.

[B]

Crazy. By the way, it is raining really hard. Yeah, it's raining so freaking hard. This is Los Angeles. What's going on? It's very rainy, very dark. A very dark and rainy night.

[A]

A dark and stormy night is cozy. I enjoy it.

[B]

It is, yes. It's lovely.

[A]

Here comes one right now. I'm looking at the various Real Housewives mugshots to see sort of where Sonya.

[B]

Has a decent one.

[A]

Who?

[B]

Sonia, One of the listeners gave. Gave me coasters. And all the coasters are a different Housewives mug shot.

[A]

They're so good.

[B]

And so from what I remember, I think Sonya is really good. I'm gonna look her up. Sonja Morgan.

[A]

Teresa has an okay one.

[B]

Sonja's is good. She looks like a Roman statue. She's just like. She's not smiling. She's just looking straight ahead. But she looks great. Her skin looks good.

[A]

She's gazing off a little bit.

[B]

Tinsley has a scary one. Tinsley Mortimer.

[A]

Here.

[B]

I'll show people on the On Demand so they can see these headshots. I'm looking at.

[A]

Tinsley has, like, the eyebrows. Jules Weinstein also. Hers is not great. Oh, Anakin Hones has one. Geez. Really? It just. It goes so. It goes so deep. Porsche.

[B]

I think Tinsley's are crazy. And she's got those 90 90s eyebrows that are, like, really thin and, like, pointing up in different directions. They're like, look over there. Look over there. Don't arrest me. Look over there.

[A]

You know, there's some housewives who we still have never really been able to see. Like, we never saw Shannon's. We never saw what's her face. We didn't see Karen's. Did we. Did we ever see Jen Shaw's?

[B]

Let's see Jen. Yeah, we saw Jen Shaw's. I think Jen Shaw mugshaw. Did Karen have one?

[A]

Bierman has one.

[B]

Well, I don't see a mugshot for Jen, but I do see a jailhouse picture of her, and she looks really cute. She's got little buns on her head and glasses.

[A]

Kim Richards has, like, a hat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. Nice selection.

[B]

Huger mugshot. Yeah, there's no Karen Huger mugshot. What a disappointment. What a disappointment, guys.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But Wendy's definitely iconic in its craziness. Okay, so Wendy basically says this guy was trying to cheer her up. And Stacy's like. She's like, well, did you get to choose your shot? Yes. In jail, I'm sure you get to, like. You get to look at the. The proofs and be like, actually, I'll like that one. Like, no.

[B]

You never know. I feel like it's just. It's the tally Ho guy that works everywhere. You know? He's probably like, girl, welcome. Can't get you breakfast today, but I can get you a decent mugshot. Can I get a different turn? Turn around, turn around. Give me.

[A]

Here's my card.

[B]

Give me what those kids call Rizzo.

[A]

Do you regret smiling? She's like, well, I don't regret anything because at the end of the day.

[B]

You get nothing for nothing.

[A]

I think we have all been through things, and you try to smile through the pain, no matter how heavy it is. I'm like, you can try to smile through the pain, but, like, let's not have a crazy smile, though. Let's not do a smile poster. Like, you just mentioned a prom photo smile.

[B]

Hers was pretty crazy. And she doesn't look like she was crying at all. Actually, I'm gonna show this again, because now I don't believe her because this doesn't look like a crying photo. Or maybe she's just a prettier crier than me. Cause when I cry, my eyes are all puffed up, and I look like somebody beat me up. Yeah, she looks cute. Okay, why am I obsessing over mugshot photos? I need to stop It. So Giselle's like, did you pop a happy yeti before you went in there? Because you looked high as fuck? And she's like, no. And Andy's like, okay, because that was a speculation. It was Happy Eddie. And she's like, let me tell you something. I was not looking high as the kite. Now, Eddie, on the other hand, he was. He was far gone. But, you know, I mean, he was just sleeping, too. You know, he was sleeping in his cell. He was taking a nap, and they tapped him and said, come take your picture. You know, that's why he looked a little bit off.

[A]

I don't believe it for a second. I think they both run Happy Eddie. And I think they are saying. They're obviously, she's going to cover and say, we weren't on Happy Eddie because that's bad for the brand to be like, you know, oh, Happy Eddie linked with two people going to jail. So I think they were 100% both very high.

[B]

Well, then I think it was marketing mistake, because first of all, it's weed. It's not like, oh, it's not like this respectable. It's not like it has that much respect in the first place. I think they should have been like, yes, we looked. We looked happy as fuck because we were high on Happy Eddie. Listen, if you. If you feel like you're going through the worst time in your life and still want to be happy, that's why they call it Happy Eddie. I was in jail. I was still happy. And that's how good the brand is. Dink.

[A]

Yeah. So Andy's asking because she says she spent the full night, and so.

[B]

Or.

[A]

Or Stacy asks about that, and she's like, what was that like? Oh, man. I just need to prepare Arabella in case something like this happens. It's like, it was very scary. And Giselle's like, I thought you were in and out, Dash. Like, I didn't know you even stayed the night. So Wendy's saying, yes, there were people in the jail cell with her, and she had to sleep in a communal room. And it was hard. You know, she's like. Because they controlled the lights and. Which I never knew about jail, Which I'm like, I feel like that's. That's pretty standard, like, jail concept there. And she's like, you completely lose your autonomy because you wake up right when they tell you. And when they. You wake up when the lights are on, and then you go to sleep when they tell you because the lights are off so hard. Lessons for Wendy about the Lighting in jail.

[B]

Basically, we find out that Wendy's an easy sleeper because it's like your first night in jail and the lights go off and you're like, bonk.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Just sleep anywhere.

[A]

She did not turn the lights off.

[B]

I had no choice but to sleep. So she's like, yeah. And they ask her how she peed. And she's like, there was the bath wound, but I held it. I did not use the bathroom. And Andy's like, well, Garen made a read. The tampons are maxi pads, Andy. Jesus. Sor.

[A]

Children. That would take a lot of tampons. So Giselle's like, well, I remember talking to you, Wendy, when Karen went in. And you were like, I can't believe she woke up in jail. I can't believe what she's going through. And you went through it and you're talking about it like. Like it's a day in the puck with the tulips. Like, are you okay? Are you okay? She's like, no, I'm not okay, but I will be okay.

[B]

Are you terrified? Give us more. Give us more. Not much happened on this season. We only have three more hours to talk about Stacy's breath. And she's like, I was terrified, but my faith is worth carrying me.

[A]

I'd like to say something. You know, my number one fear in life is going to jail. And it is, like, literally the most terrifying thing to me. And so to now be in a group where two ladies that I know have been to jail, like, it just feels like a little terrifying to me. Like, wow. Like, if those two idiots can be in jail, what's gonna happen to me? Oh, my God. The real victim here. Ashley Darby.

[B]

I'm so glad you could make my jailhouse story about you, Ash. Thank you very much. Also, how is that the most terrifying thought you can have? You fucked Michael for 10 years.

[A]

I know. Seriously, talk about being in jail.

[B]

You've got pretty thick skin. I'd say so. Wendy's like, well, I want to move on. Okay, well, let's move on. We're going to talk about this a little bit later. Sorry, Wendy. Sorry. I guess we're going to have to do it later. I just want people to look at the difference in how Wendy is treated and how Karen was treated. And maybe it's because Wendy's was not drunk driving, because I think drunk driving, obviously you're putting innocent people at risk when you do that. And this is just insurance companies, so maybe that's why. But they are babying Wendy a lot More. Now, granted, Karen didn't show up to her reunion either, but Wendy was not kind about Karen when she. She's trying to rewrite it tonight. Like, I never said anything bad about Cowan, but I watched. I watched that reunion.

[A]

Part of me feels like, with Wendy, like, it's. The evidence is all. It's like, really, it's a tough case. It's just right there, and there's young kids involved, and it's just kind of like, yeah, I think they must know She's. She's. She's probably gonna get thrown in jail or something. Some. They.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

There's, like, a sense of, like. But with Karen, there's something so fun about just, like, poking through Karen's like, it is a sport for Giselle. It is, like, her favorite thing in the world to do. She just said she was sad that she couldn't do it for this season. And so they're like. And on top of that, it's been something that they've been observing for many years. They've been observing Karen's drinking problems, and Karen's been denying, denying, denying. So it's like they finally reached the final level of like. Of like, hey, we reached the boss fight. This is it. We're gonna prove. We're gonna win this game, and we're gonna prove that Karen is a drunk, you know? Well, that's true.

[B]

Yeah. I think that's gone away with it so many times. This was, like, her fourth time time. So I think, yeah, they were like, okay, come on, guys.

[A]

There's also something. There's something, like, really sad about Wendy's situation. There's like, a real sense of a fall from grace. Like, this is someone who is an accomplished academic, very, very smart, who goes and does talking head stuff on. On cable news. And just to see that that may be fame or the pressures of fame or being on the show or whatever the financial pressures were just from supporting a whole large family. That it sort of led down this path is like. It's sad, actually. I mean, Karen's situation is obviously also very sad. But Wendy's is like. It's. It's one of those things where, like, oh, Wendy, you were supposed to sort of be the best of us. You know, like, we were a professor. The rest of us are like, you've done so many amazing things in your life. And, like, oh, no.

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Karen had kind of already fallen from grace before she came on the show somehow. Not that anything really bad happened or she did anything bad, but she had that Kind of like just trying to hold it together the whole time.

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