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Ronnie Caram
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Shep Rose
Woo.
Ronnie Caram
Southern charm, everybody. Get into it. Yes, it's get into it. Southern charm. Mexico. Here we go to Mexico. So we start with Austin packing and. Or he's cleaning something in his closet or whatever, putting clothes away. He's like, wow, that is a great shirt. Great. Wow.
Ben Mandelker
Amazing. The breadth of Tommy Bahama. Not only can he do ferns, he could do palms. It's amazing.
Ronnie Caram
Austin and Craig are so similar because Craig has a scene like that too, where he's just looking at stuff in his closet. Like, that's amazing. I love those pants.
Ben Mandelker
So good. I have such good fashion choices.
Ronnie Caram
These guys are so proud of their Tommy Bahama. You got to love it.
Ben Mandelker
I know. Seriously. So everyone's packing and Vanita calls, and Austin has also just, like, unpacked some sort of bag that says, like, cat dad or whatever. I'm a cat dad. It's my new identity. So. So Piper, one of the cats is like, crawling all over because Austin has propped up his phone, his FaceTime in his bag, but his. His luggage is open, and that is like a crack to a cat. Like, what a small, confined space. I'm going to walk around in circles in it and then lay down. And if you have a camera right there, I directly in front of it.
Ronnie Caram
And then I will pee in it if you're Molly. So, yeah, the cat's doing that and getting in the phone, and Vanita's like, oh, my God, girl, you're just licking your cootie cat Piper. But big news, guys. Madison had her baby. Speaking of kitty cats, something came out of Madison since a little baby, and I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Home alone face. And so we see Madison's video, you know, probably selling Celsius Waters or whatever, and she's like, it's me. It's me and my husband, charisma. I mean, Brad, he's like, yeah, we're going to have baby in two hours. What do you think of that? Hey, Hudson, can you believe you're going to be a big old brother in two hours? What's your most exciting part about it? Everything. My life is about to change forever. Now I have to share attention with this little shithead who's about to come out. I mean, sorry. I'm really excited, really excited you'd be
Shep Rose
nice to your little brother because he is going to be born for corn.
Ronnie Caram
And there's.
Shep Rose
Someday you won't have me and your dad around, and the only thing that you two will have will be corn. So be nice.
Ben Mandelker
So Austin is like, I lowkey love this for her. This is amazing. What was, I think the cards for us Vanita, ladies. And Vinita is like, I mean, for us or for you and me in general?
Ronnie Caram
Don't say that to Vanita. She'll be outside your front house in front of your house in five minutes
Ben Mandelker
like, you love me.
Ronnie Caram
You said you loved me. What are you talking about?
Ben Mandelker
Can we sit on your sofa and eat some branzino? Thank you. Austin is like, well, with me and Madison, it's interesting to see how our lives progress. Well, I mean, I guess only one of our lives progresses. I'm just in the same place. But if I'm honest, I'm glad she's getting some sick of something I don't know I would have ever been able to give for her, which is, you know, a conversation without needing a poncho. But it gives perspective to. For her being where she is and for me being where I am. Same place as an idiot. I'm lost.
Ronnie Caram
I've got nothing. But I did dye my hair red. And I've got the same sports coat I did before I met Madison. What is his? I know that they probably tell him to dress like this on Southern Charm. They're like, you're a Southern gentleman. Wear a sports coat. But Austin's just. Austin looks crazy. It looks like a thrift store sport coat. And his hair is kind of. He's got like a new dye job in the confessional. It looks sad, but Venita's like, okay, don't tell anybody, okay? Because she doesn't need any movement in her life. She just needs to stay still and not talk. And he's like, thanks for Telling me, because I would have called somebody. I would have called somebody. Thank you for telling me. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
By the way, notably, the cat has walked away at this. There was, like, some shot of the cat just, like, running off because even the cat can't deal with Austin's spray. The cat's. Austin doesn't even need a cat water. Yeah. Doesn't even squirt on you. Just needs to talk to the cat. Cat's like, okay, get off the counter.
Ronnie Caram
God's like, please don't talk to me. Always thinks it did something wrong.
Ben Mandelker
So Vanita's like, well, when we talk, there's always other people in the conversation with us. And I'm hurt by that. You know, I've never put Sally in a position to be humiliated, and. But we're. We're the same, you know, like, we just let things fester and fester, and then when they piss us off, we go off. It's like, you and Craig. Like, I don't want to rag on him any more than I do on a daily basis, but you guys, you want to kind of rag on him a little bit. That'd be kind of fun, right?
Ronnie Caram
This is very. Vanita to be like, oh, my God. You know, I'm just really upset with Sally for making me have that conversation in front of people. You're the one who started that conversation. Why are you pretending so venita to start something and then be like, I can't believe she did that to me. What the hell? So now Molly arrives at the Starlight Inn, which is kind of like an old retro motel, I guess, that people are. Are gonna go hang out at. It's kind of like. Like a big eight, I guess, still.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, like, stop.
Ronnie Caram
The big eight.
Ben Mandelker
Wait, no, it's the big eight. Oh, Big eight.
Ronnie Caram
Yes. There's a big eight. There's this. I think there's two. There's like, yeah, Big eight. Yeah. Super eight is film. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Don't they live in the film? Yeah, Big eights are still around. I see them all over the place.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, there you go. So it's like that, but trendier, I guess. So Molly brings what everybody brings to a gig that's really important. That is salad dressing. So she brings that. And she's unpacking her car. She meets the guitar guy who has learned a few chords, written some songs for old mals, and he's like, hey, you gonna be okay if I forget the lyrics? That's a good one. I tell it to all the new singers. What if I forgot Them. She's like, oh, my God, don't scare me. My blood pressure. I'm so nervous. Going to be singing.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. My blood pressure just spiked. Although that may be because a snake bit me earlier today.
Shep Rose
Oh, no.
Ben Mandelker
An open mic is 100 times scarier than the euphonium because this is just me. And that terrifies me. She basically says, like, when she's in the orchestra, she can hide amongst the, the. The whole giant band that's there. I'm like, not only can you hide, you evidently can also just not even show up. And they will still be able to soldier on.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. And hey, if you go through that performance, like, everyone expects you to blow. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
She goes, I just hope my voice doesn't shut down. I'm like, don't worry. So no one's really going to be paying attention, really. Anyway, so people show up. Sally brings roses.
Shep Rose
Jeff is like, gosh, I never bring gifts. I always forget.
Ben Mandelker
He really has a bad track record of this all. All season long. He didn't bring something to Patricia's house. And then he also did the same thing.
Shep Rose
Was like, gosh, always forget.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, but it's also the South. Like, do you have to take a gift for everything in the South? Jesus, I would never go anywhere. I feel like you have to go shopping and just have a whole closet full of gifts. You know how you do that for like when there's a birthday and you've forgotten Your mom's like, I've got a gift in the closet. She pulls out like a. A fake crystal clock she found somewhere 20 years ago. Like, thanks, Mom.
Ben Mandelker
I feel like there's so many rules in the South. Just like as a northerner, my impression of the south is like, well, you do know that when you park in a parking lot, you do have to give flowers to each car onto your left and to your right.
Ronnie Caram
Right.
Ben Mandelker
It's the polite thing to do.
Ronnie Caram
That is kind of the South, I guess. Gifts for everything, huh? It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial.
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Ronnie Caram
So, yeah, everybody comes, and he's like, can I just borrow your flowers?
Shep Rose
Oh, gosh, look, there's gays.
Ronnie Caram
So the gays come, and everybody's coming. And Whitney's like, oh, wow. This seems like a place where everybody should yell, norm.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Which case, they're like, ew, gross. We gotta leave, normies. So Sally is like, she's really nervous. Look at her. And we find out that Vanita can't come, but sent an apology note, and Austin may come.
Shep Rose
And Sally's like, ooh, I hope he comes. Ooh, Austin.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, just so unsubtle about everything. So Shep says, gosh, Austin's going through a lot.
Shep Rose
Life isn't easy for him now, and we all know that.
Ben Mandelker
And him and Craig need a.
Shep Rose
Need a salvo. I want to make that happen. Let's all go down to Mexico.
Ben Mandelker
Yes. When I look at Austin, I think this is a man who lives a very, very difficult life. I mean, all that waking up and going to golf, going back to bed. Going back to bed, maybe getting a beer in the afternoon, it is difficult for him.
Ronnie Caram
That whole relationship he was pretending to have to repair his reputation on television is ended. Poor Austin. We should take a trip, A trip to Mexico, because him and Craig need a solve.
Ben Mandelker
And so Rod is like, yeah, he's in a vulnerable place, girlfriend, and I'm there to help support and uplift. I tried to talk to him last week, and he was like, don't gas me up. And I was like, talk to the hand.
Ronnie Caram
I'll Gas him at. Leave that to me. I'll gas him up. And he's like, no, but don't like gas him up like that. Blowjob. Gas him up. Is Rodrigo always just shit faced if you ever wondered? Because, I mean, he's not.
Ben Mandelker
I don't know.
Ronnie Caram
I'm not going to say. Because normally I like drunk people on tv. I'm like, oh, they're so funny, you know? Or in life, even when they're against me and it's trauma from my past. I'm like, but that was kind of funny. So I can remember that abuse. That was at least funny. He's not like an amusing drunk, but I think he is drunk all the time because he kind of has a slur. I don't know. But I don't know if it's like a gay tongue thing. Cause I have that.
Ben Mandelker
It could be a little bit of all of the above. So he's thinking he had drunk. Gas him up.
Shep Rose
And she's like, oh, leave that to me. You Austin over here.
Ben Mandelker
So Shep is like, oh, gosh, it's Molly's parents.
Shep Rose
I need to say hi.
Ben Mandelker
So he goes over to be like,
Shep Rose
look at me, I'm Shep. I'm a sweet little boy. Remember me last year when I went to the Euphonium concert and when she was playing classical music, I took my fingers and pretended I was conducting. It was so funny. Gosh.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, I cannot believe she's doing this. She won't even sing for us. Oh, by the way, you know Dee, Molly's ex roommate? I think he's gay. You could probably tell because he's the probably gay one. Dee is wearing a shirt that has a rainbow lettering on it. It says pride.
Shep Rose
Pride.
Ronnie Caram
Pride. Is it on sale?
Ben Mandelker
Just in case.
Ronnie Caram
Just.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, let me get it in three times. Just in case this is the last time you see me.
Ronnie Caram
Pride.
Shep Rose
Pride.
Ronnie Caram
Pride. $5. Pride. Pride.
Ben Mandelker
Pride.
Shep Rose
God. Well, Molly's texting me. She's a nervous wreck. Wow.
Ben Mandelker
And the mom's like, yeah, she's a wreck, but what else is new? Am I right? Have you seen her apartment? Disgusting. So then they all say hi. And so Molly gets on the mic and she has a cowbell.
Ronnie Caram
Rob's like, go kill it, bitch.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, I need my cowbell. Whoops, I forgot. And then of course they're all like,
Shep Rose
more cowbell, more cowbell.
Ronnie Caram
You know, it's a concert in the south when she's about to sing her first song, and the guy goes, cowbell. And I was like, okay, it's a song called Cowbell. I was just. I was just rolling with it. I'm like, of course there's a song in the south called Cowbell.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Shep Rose
Hey, give her the cowbell. Look, she can do everything. She can do a cowbell. She can sing. But one thing she can'. Austin. That's for me to do.
Ronnie Caram
Yoo Rod's like, yep, this is proof that you're a badass. And sometimes you just, like, gotta release the shackles to realize that you're really a badass. Blowjob.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. You're a badass boss. And nothing releases the shackles like singing a song in a small coffee house. Yeah. Liberation.
Ronnie Caram
The starlight in. You've made it. Someone is checking out during your. During your song. And chef's like, free bird.
Shep Rose
Free bird. No, seriously, I'd like a free bird, please. I need to give a gift.
Ronnie Caram
So let's go over to Randy and Patrick, Patricia's house. She's like, randy, could you grab me another pillow? And he's like, from inside? No, just from right there. You're right next to it. Grab that pillow. Oh, this one? This one? Yeah, that one's fine. Where should I put it? Should I put it over here? Just put it over. Okay, lift it. Okay, close your eyes. Okay, put it against your face. Okay, press down. Pull the pillow towards you. Can't breathe. That's the point, Randy.
Ben Mandelker
Wait, hold on. Hold on. Take the pillow off your face. Okay, turn around. Okay, I want the apricot side facing up while you do this to yourself. Okay. Back on the face.
Ronnie Caram
Okay. Should I put it down? You want it in front of the other one? Should I put them side by side? Should I put them one in front of the other one? Just go inside, get me some sweet tea. Jesus Christ.
Ben Mandelker
And stop playing remixes of Paul Abdul in there. Okay? It's not a wedding, so please stop
Ronnie Caram
playing Be our guest over and over again, okay? Just because you work from. You're a doorman at a hotel and a DJ does not mean you only can welcome people during your set.
Ben Mandelker
And no more Samantha Fox. She's very unbecoming. Thank you. So Whitney comes over.
Ronnie Caram
I hear Patsy Cline coming one more time from there. What a loose woman. You know, she was wearing skirts way before that was acceptable.
Ben Mandelker
Why don't you play more Jody Watley? I do like her. He didn't hear me. Oh.
Ronnie Caram
So Whitney comes out and he's like, hey, mama, you're making a list. What's on your list? She's like, I'm going to Costco because Georgette's coming, so. No, Georgette loves stuff from Costco.
Ben Mandelker
Basically, I want to find a. An eye for Randy to go in, and I'm just going to tell him to shake the. Shake the rack until one of the big boxes falls from on high onto his head. God, Georgia. And I love laughing at him when he does that.
Ronnie Caram
I was trying to look what was on her list for Costco because she has a legal pad, and she's got all this writing on, like, four different areas of it. It's, like, all sectioned off. And I was trying to read it, but you can't take screenshots of a screener, and it's really upsetting me. I've got to know what's on there. Georgette coming. What are we gonna get Georgette from Costco? Lots of snickers. Lots of snick. Paper towels. Make sure that they're the. They're the cut bot. You know, cut your own size.
Ben Mandelker
Hey, Georgette really likes those Kirkland athletic socks, so make sure we got a bundle of those and a giant gallon or tub of pickles, okay? She likes to put the pickles in the socks, actually.
Ronnie Caram
So what's going on with you? He's like, well, I was talking to Shep about the Mexico trip. We're going to plan that for Craig and Austin. Shep wants to do it. A spirituality trip. You know, experience culture and holistic wellness. She's like, oh, God, Jesus Christ, please don't. Don't do this. And we see a clip of him talking to the guys about the invite. And Shep's like, yeah, you know, we should do a sweat house. We should do shamans. You know, it's time for some growth, friend.
Shep Rose
Bravo told me that they really want to do another shot where they do a kaleidoscope effect on us while shaman talks. So we're up for it. You know what I'm saying?
Ronnie Caram
Whoa.
Ben Mandelker
Going to Mexico with Craig doesn't sound great right now. Yeah, I always have that itch to go see some culture for a couple of days. I love culture.
Ronnie Caram
I love seeing other cultures. Craig sounds good. Sweat house. Yeah. Love other cultures. So it's like, you know, it's about the important things in life. Friendship, spirituality. Don't start that bullshit with me. You're going to hang out with a bunch of poor people because you're producing this show. You don't have to pretend with your mother.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, Shep went to Costa Rica and did toad venom, and he thinks he's a shaman now. And so then we see a clip from like two years ago.
Shep Rose
He's like, I had a vision of Taylor and I took her into my nest and fed her and nurtured her. And I wanted her to become this majestic bird.
Ronnie Caram
I mean, bless his heart. Well, we can balance my chakra. Whatever chakra is. That's a good one.
Ben Mandelker
Katarandy. No. Randy wronged. If that's not. Not Chaka Khan. Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
What's this? What's. What's a chakra, mother? I think it's a R B singer. Probably J ish. Maybe a couple decades ago.
Ben Mandelker
We don't really understand. So Charlie goes to Sally's house and she says that she needs to take a shower because she just had a colonic. So. Hello, I've got a leaky booty hole.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. She's like, I hope you don't mind. I'm going to be massaging my stomach. I have to massage it after the colonic. Just brought some lotion. So I was like, okay, that's crazy. What's a colonic? She's like, oh, my God, I love colonics. They put water up there and then what happens? Then it comes out. Where does it go to? In a tube, then? Where?
Ben Mandelker
It goes to Craig's bar. I mean, it's where things go when they come out of your butt.
Ronnie Caram
For someone to be this out of touch with their butthole. I didn't think it was gonna be Sally, I have to say.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Sally was like, so what did you do? Instead of watching Molly sing, she goes, well, I had drinks with Craig again.
Shep Rose
Oh, my God.
Ben Mandelker
Don't hate me.
Shep Rose
Don't hate me. Please, please, please. I can't handle it. Please don't hate me.
Ronnie Caram
And then we have another date scene with Craig. He does this on every date scene where he's like, asking where their relationship stands. What's that? That's weird, right? He's like, well, like, it's crazy because, like, usually when I'm seeing somebody, like, I can get a read on them, but I can't get a read on you. Where do we stand? She's like, I mean, I don't know what you want me to say, but I only see serious things with you. So does that count? He's like, thing. That's what I wanted here.
Ben Mandelker
No, I was actually wondering, like, if you come to this bar and you're a little bit late and there's no more stools, like, where do you stand here? Like, I don't really get it. So then Sally's like, I mean, I feel confused because, like, it honestly feels like a slap in the face or a friendship. I don't know. Why. Why didn't you tell me that you went on a date with him? She's like, yeah, well, I'm just, like, trying to figure out my feelings. Yeah, but, like, our friendship is being open and honest about everything we have going on with guys. And you come to me and you tell me details all the time, and then you're silent. When comes to Craig, she's like, yeah, for sure.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Well, we used to talk to each other three times a day and tell each other everything. Now that she has, whatever's going on with Craig, she hasn't spoken to me, and it makes me question our friendship. I mean, I feel like you're not telling me everything because Craig called you and told you not to say anything. And that pisses me off. He's such a calculated person.
Ben Mandelker
I wish someone had. Had warned me the way I'm warning you to stay away from him. So Charlie's like. She's like, but this is why I don't say anything. Because there's nothing to say. Because anytime I mention his name, you become a raging to me. Basically.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, because you hate him. You're gonna talk him, and you loved him until he rejected you. Although he rejected you and then told everybody you were crazy, too. So I don't really blame you.
Ben Mandelker
But Sally's not wrong. But also, it's crazy that she doesn't understand why Charlie is like. Does not want to broach the topic because it's uncomfortable, because she knows that you're just going to be on it the entire time. So then we go to Molly packing, and she's like, oh, this is gross. I'm borrowing my. My luggage since one of my cats peed in mine. So she's borrowing her mom's. And then Craig is. He's like, this is. When he's looking at his pants. He's like, wow, these look like my grandfather's pants. They're going to Mexico.
Ronnie Caram
I love them. And then Shep is packing like Shep does, just picking clothes up off the floor and smelling them. Smelling the crotch of his underwear and being like, it's been worse. Just packing it in there. So now everybody goes to the airport, and Sally's like, I'm a girl.
Shep Rose
I brought lots of suitcases.
Ronnie Caram
Rodrigo's like, you're a. You're a. With a suitcase. You're even. It's just suitcases. A. You're a. With A suitcase?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Widner did something crazy, which is that he brought really just a duffel bag and that's it. And not only that, a duffel bag with no wheels. So he's just gonna carry a heavy duffel bag. I. Straightness is.
Ronnie Caram
Straight guys love taking big duffel bags. I've noticed that, like, hot, hot straight guys, specifically, I don't see many, like, homely people do it. It's like a hot, straight guy thing to take. To take a big duffel and, like, kind of put it on your shoulders.
Ben Mandelker
And it was actually like a very beautiful duffel bag. But I'm like, sir, you know, we have wheels now. You don't have to live this way.
Ronnie Caram
Yes. Wheels have been out for a long time.
Ben Mandelker
Do it like when I. Because I. I had like a moment where I was, like, very involved in bag culture and I was like, all up in one bag on Reddit and I was like, doing all this research on bags. And it's just so funny because when I was researching, like, good bags to go under an airport, you know, like, carry on, etc, and I was basically looking into either book bags or things with wheels. And it just was always crazy that duffel bags or like these big weekender bags that are like, you know, giant squares with straps that it's like, oh. Or you can take these. You can put a weekend's worth of clothing in these. I was like, this is gonna be heavy on me. I wanna. If I can't carry it on my back, if I can't roll it, why would I want to endure this? Do you know how large these airports are? You're walking for, like, miles. This is just like, we don't have to live this way.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. It's ridiculous. It's like living without electricity. Just for fun. Like, why would you do that? I won't even buy a backpack that doesn't have a special strap on the back for luggage. Cause I ain't even carrying the backpack. I mean, sometimes at the airport, they're like, your luggage is too heavy or whatever, and they make you check it and then you have to carry around your backpack. And I have a fit. And that's why I have a fit, because I just. I can't. It's hard.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, Sorry.
Ronnie Caram
There's a laptop in there. It's like £5.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Well, you know what's funny is I actually often keep my backpack on because I feel like when I attach it to my. My roller and then I like, it doesn't. The, like, the roller, it's Harder because it's heavier. And so you know what you call that?
Ronnie Caram
A lot of you, you took a lot of talking into getting a proper roller suitcase with a stiff, stiff handle that comes up that you can attack. Attach a backpack to. You're stubborn in ways like that. I'm like, you need a backpack that attaches to your thing. You're like, no, I'm carrying my soft roller with like a little stick and then a backpack that I carry on my back. That's. That's your thing. You like, you love to.
Ben Mandelker
Yes.
Ronnie Caram
Show off your back strength or something.
Ben Mandelker
My back strength as I sit there, like hunchbacked. But I. It wasn't so much that I was stubborn. It's more like I had a really good bag and I didn't want to buy a new bag. But unfortunately, the downside of the bag that I had was that the handle was like a mono stick and you could not dangle anything off of that. But now I've moved. I've moved into a new world. And I can now. And I also have a new backpack. And so they can. They can fit together. But I do find that, like when you're trying to roll it along, it lags because it's heavy. And it's like you can hear my. My roller panting. Like, wait a second. I can't. I can't carry this backpack anymore. But, you know. Yeah, girls struggles in life.
Ronnie Caram
So Rod is just, you know, I don't know why he's always like this, but he's like, oh, my God. Molly, your head beams are ready. Yeah, head beams are showing. Nipples. Yeah. Okay. And Chef's like, I'm going to do things old fashioned way. I want a paper ticket in my hand. And that's it. The old chef.
Ben Mandelker
I love it.
Ronnie Caram
Here's my paper ticket. That's right. I've got paper suckers.
Ben Mandelker
Thanks.
Ronnie Caram
You could all suck it in this airport, you bunch of Gen Z ears.
Ben Mandelker
And so now Rod and Sally are talking, and Sally's like, I need medicine here. He's like, yeah, I haven't had my morning margarita. What's wrong, girlfriend? And she's like, yeah, hey, Charlie, I'll tell you later. But it's super weird that. And I need to talk to Bonita too. I hate everyone except for you, Charlie. And Rodrigo's like, yeah, that's why we're going to have fun. It's gonna be like, you're gonna have like a whop, right? That stands for wet ass.
Ronnie Caram
Hey, wait a minute.
Shep Rose
Austin's upgraded and I'M not upgraded course.
Ben Mandelker
So Sally. And just sit on his lap and
Shep Rose
say, this is my seat, if you know what I mean,
Ronnie Caram
Uncle. Where Austin's sitting, he's like, solo seat. Solo seat. So Chef's like, we're going to a boutique place. Okay. It's a boutique. Boutique. I don't know, but we're going there. I'm hot. If I don't put on a bathing suit in five minutes, I'm gonna freak out. And Rod's like, oh, my God. Is it like a little bathing suit that barely covers your nipples, or do you have like huge nipples? That's crazy. Like, what size is your nipples? Is he playing a gay person? Is Rod even gay?
Ben Mandelker
I think he is, actually.
Ronnie Caram
I feel like Rod is a hacky actor from the 90s who was told to play a gay guy and he's just like, ooh, I'm gonna say blowjob and nipples a lot.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I think.
Ronnie Caram
And that's. That's what gay people do.
Ben Mandelker
I think Rodrigo is ultimately like a team gay. And I think he's on the show and like, the team gay thing isn't popping. And someone said, you know what, you just need to like, lean into the gay thing a little bit more. So that way you have a more defined character. And so he's like trying it out and just like landing in a very strange way.
Ronnie Caram
It really is.
Ben Mandelker
I say this from experience, by the way. I've been in. I've been in Rodrigo's shoes. Of all the games I've played before, I get it. It's weird. It's weird when we have to sass it up. Just lean into being a team gay.
Ronnie Caram
So then I've been the same bitter 40 year old gay since I was five. Just. I mean, I'm 50 now, but I stayed at that 40 year old level. I feel like I've always had that kind of. That just basic shitty personality. And it just kind of stuck.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, great. So then Rodrigo is saying, you know who has the perkiest tits? This one right here. I love them. And he like, touches Austin's boobs and also like, huh. I mean, I have no intention of doing anything with Sally, but at the same time, it's a little bit endearing to have someone who's hitting on you and laying on thick. It's insane right now. So they get to the hotel and there's like a mariachi band that plays for them. The host is like, welcome to the hotel. Here's a cocktail. Yada yada yada, Shep. And Benita start dancing. And Austin's like, they say how you dance is how you are in the bedroom. And Shep is like, look at me. This is what I can do. Done.
Ronnie Caram
He's trying too hard, but ultimately failing, I think, is what Austin's saying. So I did the first half of the notes for this episode, and, Ben, you did the second half. So I just opened your half, and for whatever reason, it's showing it in dark mode on my computer, where the background is black and the type is. Right. Is white. It's how my computer set. I just got exhausted. I mean, dark mode really does work. It tricks you. Like that thing on your phone where you're like, put on nighttime mode, and it turns your screen yellow. And then you're just like.
Ben Mandelker
Just go to bed. You're like the bird, and someone puts something over the cage. You're like, well, it's nighttime.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, that's how I feel. I open this. I was like, oh, my God, Is this over?
Shep Rose
Sleepy time.
Ben Mandelker
You can probably sleep to the rest of this recap. I'm not gonna lie. Here comes one right now. So the. So they wind up. They're. They're given rooms and everything. And basically all the legacy guys wind up in the master. Not the math. The presidential suite. And Whitner's in his own. And the point of the story is that Sally and Molly wind up together in the same room.
Ronnie Caram
So Sally and Charlie.
Ben Mandelker
Yes, Sally and Charlie.
Ronnie Caram
Thank you. And Sally's like, oh, my God, I don't like Molly. I mean, I don't like Charlie Craig. I'm so mad at her. So she's giving all these, like, stank looks. And Charlie's like, perfect, I'm with Sally. Great. So they get to the room, and Sally's like, I'm not planning on sleeping here, by the way. She's like, what do you mean you're not planning on sleeping. Sleeping here? What are you talking about? I mean, if things go according to plan.
Ben Mandelker
Hold on one second. I just need to call the front desk about something. Hello, this is sally in room 1363. Yes, yes. I just have to say the following.
Ronnie Caram
Can I get some room service up here? And buy room service? I mean, womb service. Get her up here, boy. We're not playing around.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, God. So, I mean, she really is talking like, a play out of the 30s. I won't be saying yeah if I have anything to say about it.
Ronnie Caram
So I hope breakfast comes with a side of sausage.
Ben Mandelker
So Austin and Chap are on their balcony, and Austin's like, wow, you got the master in both of these past two trips. And Shep's like, gosh, but I thought
Shep Rose
the last one, I was gonna be with Sienna.
Ben Mandelker
And then we see, of course, a flashback to Sienna awkwardness and her being like, yeah, I'm. You change. I'm gonna go downstairs.
Shep Rose
No, Sienna, no. Don't leave me.
Ronnie Caram
I wanted.
Shep Rose
I wanted you to watch me change.
Ronnie Caram
And she's like, gross. Just kind of walks out slowly, looking disgusted.
Shep Rose
Have you ever seen a man get out of. Have you ever seen a man get out of khakis and change into chino shorts? It's very sexy.
Ronnie Caram
In the Bahamas, I was a dead man walking. I knew it. Everyone else knew it. You did not know it. You were very surprised. I think that was one of the first times in your life you've been that surprised. That was one of the first times I think Chef's ever tried it with somebody who was like, hey, do you want to be on tv? You can be on tv. Just pretend to be my girlfriend, and we'll make out a little bit. And they were like, gross. No, I will do the TV part, though.
Ben Mandelker
Yes. It was an indecent proposal. And Sienna was like, yeah, I'm not gonna do this. So then Austin is like, yeah. Shep is on a healing journey, so it's great to see him and his penis so carefree, just flapping around.
Ronnie Caram
Ah.
Ben Mandelker
So then the. So Craig is on the. They all are talking about. The guys are like, I can't wait to go to the pool. But then Shep can't go to the pool just yet because he got Charlie's luggage by accident, and his luggage is nowhere to be found. So he takes the Charlie's bag over to her room, and he knocks on
Shep Rose
the door, and he goes, housekeeping.
Ben Mandelker
And then the guy from the hotel opens up, and it's like. I think Shep, in that moment, realizes, oh, yeah, whenever you say housekeeping, there's sort of like, an implicit kind of. You're kind of, like, you know, mocking someone in that moment. And it's like this brief and very, like, the definite, like, awkward moment. And he goes, oh, hey.
Shep Rose
I think there was, like, some sort of mistake, which is perfectly okay. Okay, I'm just gonna walk on through with this luggage by.
Ben Mandelker
I was like, o. Oh, man. Of course. Of course. Hey, there.
Ronnie Caram
I'm the guy who's glad he didn't do an accent right now. Okay.
Shep Rose
Got some luck. I'm glad.
Ben Mandelker
I. I know.
Shep Rose
Thank God I only went high pitch,
Ronnie Caram
so it's like, hey, Charlie, I think I've got your stuff. Do you have mine? And she's like, why would you think that I have yours? Like, do I look like someone who would steal? Like, are you saying that I'm stealing? He's like, no, I just thought maybe it was a mix up or something. She's like, oh, okay, okay. Don't want everybody to hate me.
Ben Mandelker
Well, sorry. I wish I had your luggage.
Shep Rose
Hey, Charlie, don't say, I'm sorry. That's not what you do. The last thing a woman should do is supplicate herself to a man. Unless that man is kind of hot, which case, buy some chickens.
Ronnie Caram
Don't say sorry to him. No one wants to fuck him.
Shep Rose
He's not worth it.
Ronnie Caram
But I thought we were doing. He thought we were doing an exchange of luggage. So I was just trying to say, well, it's not your fault, though. Stop saying I'm sorry. And Shep's like, okay, life coach. Jeez. And Charlie clocks it. She's like, yeah, I think that anything that has to do with, like, a guy in this group, Sally has something to say about it. And I'm just. I'm like, at my breaking point. Seriously, like, I'm done with this. So Shep gets his bags and goes to the pool with the guys. And Austin's like, whoa, guys, let me say something. Nobody is stronger than the Mexican son, okay? So don't think that you're. Don't think that you're stronger. Put on sunscreen, okay? Put it on.
Ben Mandelker
Listen, we didn't get this pasty by doing hard work, okay? So preserve it, all right? Put it on your sunblock. So he.
Ronnie Caram
Everybody expects from us it's a farmer's stand, so please put sunblock only from your upper arms in the shape of a T shirt.
Ben Mandelker
Listen, I just bought these sunglasses, and I need them to shield me from some sort of bright object. So therefore, it's very important that we stay as pale as possible. So Adam's like, was this some, like, ad for the sunblock? Why do we have to watch Austin spraying these guys down?
Ronnie Caram
It's the least sexy sunblock scene of all time.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
Especially reality tv.
Ben Mandelker
They're like, oh, yeah, you want to
Ronnie Caram
put some sunblock on me? And this is like, oh, God. Put on your shirts.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, please. So they go. They start swimming and frolicking, and food shows up. And then here comes Whitney in black jeans, and he's actually wearing a T shirt, which is basically the equivalent of him being in a thong. So he's like, hello. And the guy's like, oh, my God, look, he's in. Look at the areas in his jeans. Like, I'm surprised he's not hanging by his legs. Spray Dan Spray lotion.
Ronnie Caram
And he's like, the beach is my idea of hell. Sweaty, depressing, slow death, this.
Ben Mandelker
So then Molly's in the pool. Also, Whitney's like, oh, get up and show us the goods, baby. She goes, yeah, well, then everyone's gonna see my big fat ass. Well, I feel like that's something to be, like, really proud of. Molly. She's like, okay, yeah, thanks.
Ronnie Caram
And she also doesn't have a fat ass. And she really needs to stop talking like this because it's frustrating. She's walking around with her perfect little body, and she's like, oh, my God, shut up.
Ben Mandelker
So then Vanita comes, and she's wearing an outfit. So Rodrigo's like, let's see that outfit, girlfriend. So she twirls. He goes, that booty meat. So then inside, Sally and Charlie are having more conversation. And so Sally's like, I don't know if it's the Mexican heat or what's going on with me, but I'm being a fucking bitch. So Charlie's like, well, what's going on? Well, I'm just. I'm so sick and tired of man children. I like. I'm like, obviously, Craig, for example, I'm so sick of them. God, I can't wait to fuck one of them. Any of them, really, at this point.
Ronnie Caram
Okay, well, like, I should have said this yesterday, but, like, sometimes you don't realize it, but you do say these, like, little sly, like, little remarks about Craig. Like, they're, like, really subtle. Like, I hate him. Yeah, super subtle like that. Like, I want him to die. Yeah, very, very subtle. But, like, it gives me the impression that, like, I don't know, you don't like him. She's like, yeah, because, you know, best friends warn each other about certain situations, and that's all I'm doing because I'm one of your best friends. So I just don't know how you can like Craig. I mean, okay, so he's the man I bought chickens for, but still, how could you fall for his charm?
Ben Mandelker
See, and this is, like, what I don't want to hear. This is why I don't bring it up. Because I enjoy hanging out with him, and I like spending time with him, and I'm excited to have fun with him in Mexico. But, like, maybe I don't want to talk to you about every single thing I do to them. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. Please don't be mad at me.
Ronnie Caram
Please don't. Yeah, but do you understand how that's hard for me? Because I've lost my best friend and being able to vent to her, you know, I've just lost all of it.
Shep Rose
So my best friend is dead, and you've killed my best friend. You killed her.
Ben Mandelker
You had. You haven't lost your best friend. We can still talk about everything else. Like, these draperies are nice, right? Aren't draperies fun? God, it's fun being best girlfriends again, right? I love draperies. Right?
Shep Rose
Right.
Ben Mandelker
You're not mad at me, are you?
Ronnie Caram
Charlie's like, yeah. I mean, it may be a hard pill to swallow, but it's Sally. And if anyone could swallow, it's her. So I just don't want this to change our dynamic. And she's like, I realize my best friend feels. Oh. She goes, yeah, like, I realized my best friend feels a certain way about him, so I'm not gonna be coming to you and telling you everything about it. You know, I just don't want that happening anymore because what you say influences how I feel. And she's like, oh, well, you know, fine. I've got plenty of friends I can vent to about him, so I don't have to come to you. I can talk to Popcorn, talk to Cantaloupe, talk to the other one who's named after food. I don't really know. I hope they die while I'm gone. I eat the fucking chickens.
Ben Mandelker
See, that's what I'm saying. So you're withholding again. She's like, no, no, it's fine. Hey, go put on a hot bathing suit. I'm sure Craig would like that. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. So now back to the pool. Shep is talking to Austin about Sally and Charlie and saying that Sally's really domineering. And he's like, I went to deliver Charlie's bags.
Shep Rose
I did this whole funny bit where I was like, housekeeping, but I didn't really land very well when I met, you know, the staff, and I thought she had my bag. And Sally was very controlled polling, and Austin said you could shed some light on that dynamic, Craig.
Ben Mandelker
So Craig's like, well, I really don't know. I mean, here's what I was attempting to not ever do. I never want to be a reason of conflict for those two, because obviously nothing is going to happen if I'M the reason she's fighting with her friend. I like that. He's like, I don't want to be a source of conflict, because normally you would think he would say, because they have such a nice friendship, and I would just feel terrible if I came in and I ruined that. But he's like, I would hate if something happened between the two of them, because then I wouldn't really be able to have sex with Charlie.
Ronnie Caram
It's harder for me to get laid.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
So now Sally and Charlie come, and Sally's like, I need to drink. And by drink, I mean penis. And so she's like, hey, Austin.
Shep Rose
Hey, Austin. I'm taking off my cover up. It's like,
Ben Mandelker
It's so over. She really is like, yeah, she really does it. She's really doing yoo who energy. And so Austin is like, wow. It does weigh on me a little bit that Audrey didn't like Sally because Sally was so overly aggressive, telling people what she felt about me, and then talk about the ultimate slap in their face after the breakup to, like, go and do something with one.
Shep Rose
The one person.
Ben Mandelker
I'm like, that is correct. But you're on Bravo, so you will be the one to do that.
Ronnie Caram
You're gonna do it.
Ben Mandelker
We've seen this on every show that there's ever lecherous guys on.
Ronnie Caram
Listen, we know that you just let that busboy take your appetizer because you saw your entree coming out of the kitchen. Austin, you can stop pretending you're at a restaurant. We expect you to eat.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, that's good.
Ronnie Caram
So Craig's like, well, but you do only live once, so. And Austin's like, whoa, Craig, wow. Craig's like, wow. Austin is like the Austin I love. Again, just over girls. I love it. We're bad guys.
Ben Mandelker
He's, like, exactly the same, but he's like, wow, it's perfect. He's back. Meanwhile, as Craig is cheering us, cheering Austin to do, like, really something that could be very mean to Audrey, who he probably still has feelings for on a certain level or whatever, but he's just, like, happy that that Austin is not only rid of Audrey, but in a place where he might actually be hurtful to Audrey. So Austin's like, yeah, I really try to compartmentalize rather. Rather than, like, always being angry. And I always, like, you know, being angry is, like, not a good way to live. But then again, compartmentalizing is not a great way to live. But when you're a compartmental person. Yeah. And you have a cat, the cat sits in Your compartment. It's, like, really cute because then you're a cat dad. So, like, I think I'd rather be harmonious than always be at each other's throats.
Ronnie Caram
So Rod is talking to the girls, and he's like, yeah, I mean, Austin doesn't even know what he wants. That dumb titted bitch. And Sally's like, yeah, well, you know, like, all I hear from this friend group is people talking about how they're not for each other and don't want to be with each other. And I was told he'd be, like, nonchalant and totally be fine if they broke up. And Molly's like, wait, what? No, no, I've never heard that. Audrey was, like, casual and nonchalant. Why would someone be nonchalant after being together for a year or two? No, that's not. Sally's trying to. She's saying, like, she wants to hook up with Austin, right? Everyone's, you know, kind of. She's feeling like everyone's going to guilt her, but everybody's been saying their relationship is no big deal for a long time anyway, and so why should you care?
Ben Mandelker
But the thing that's crazy is that Sally has proclaimed many times and Austin has many times that, like, he. Like, he and Sally are great friends. They're such. They're so tight, and yet she doesn't understand the nuances of his relationship or anything like that. And now she's like, well, people just told me, so this really seems like bullshit to me. To me, this is like her doing a little bit of damage control. So people don't, like, slut shame her, basically. So she's like, I thought it was okay. So then she's like, that's just what I was told. People told me that their relationship was immature. And then everyone's like, who said that? Like, everyone's like. Even Vanita's like, look, I will. I will come.
Ronnie Caram
I don't.
Ben Mandelker
Like, everyone's like, it's Craig. It was obviously Craig who said this. And it's like, yeah, it definitely wasn't me. So, like, yeah, it was Craig. Craig told you this, didn't he? Craig is the one who told you. And she's like, well, I'm not allowed to speak negatively about Craig because Charlie's here, Charles.
Ronnie Caram
Like, that's not what I meant. God, why are you making me look down? But also, maybe Craig didn't tell her. Maybe Austin was the one making it sound so nonchalant. You know, who knows with these guys? Any guess that's true. The Other.
Ben Mandelker
That's true. Because they asked, do you think that Craig lies? And she's like, I'm not allowed to say because the Craig police are here. So then Charlie's like, oh. So then they all get in the pool and everything, and Austin's like, hey, Sally, do you want some coconuts? Because I'm not sorry. Austin says this because Austin is holding, like, coconut drinks, and she's like, do you want.
Shep Rose
You want some coconut?
Ronnie Caram
I'm holding a coconut. So, yeah, I've already got one.
Shep Rose
She's like, I met these coconuts. Talking about my breasts.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I got it.
Shep Rose
My areolas.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Shep Rose
See these things that are on my chest? We call them boobs.
Ben Mandelker
Okay. Yeah, I got them.
Ronnie Caram
Love facts. Got it. Got it. Bazooms. Got it.
Ben Mandelker
Got it.
Shep Rose
Laugh orbs. Baby faders.
Ronnie Caram
Got it.
Shep Rose
Fleshy teardrops.
Ronnie Caram
So Shep is like, whoa, my lights just went out.
Shep Rose
Your light went out?
Ronnie Caram
Did my electricity go out?
Shep Rose
But you're still on the podcast. Your electricity is on because the light behind you is on. Gosh, scary times.
Ben Mandelker
First comes dark mode. Ronnie's gonna fall asleep any second. His entire electronic ecosystem is trying to put him to bed. They're trying to put baby to bed. But, like, dark mode lights are dimming. Soon the blinds are gonna slowly go down behind you. Well, while you figure out your lighting, I will continue.
Ronnie Caram
I'm just gonna have to go like this. I mean, as long as the computer's still work. Oh, they're coming back.
Ben Mandelker
You're still very well lit, Ronnie.
Ronnie Caram
So weird. I wonder what happened.
Ben Mandelker
Did the bulb go out?
Ronnie Caram
No.
Ben Mandelker
Ronnie is genuinely spooked. This is why people should do crap is on demand because you get to watch things like the sheer terror on Ronnie's face when his light goes out. That's okay. This is like the time when my mouse died in the middle of the podcast.
Shep Rose
I was like, I can't advance my notes.
Ronnie Caram
Well, we're doing this a little early because we're going out of town, and it's very us. Like, every time, we're like, oh, God, we have to work late or do something extra, and then everything goes wrong. You know, the computer, the electricity goes out. We lose the whole podcast, and we have to record the whole, you know, shit like that happens. So that's the look of fear. What the hell? Give me back my lighting. I want it back right now, House.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, well, while you're dealing with that, I'm going to go forward.
Shep Rose
Gosh, guys, I think it's about time to head back to our domiciles and get ready for dinner.
Ben Mandelker
So Charlie announces that she needs to wash her hair. And Craig's like, I have a sick shower. She's like, oh, you're just playing the long game. He's like, like, I try. So now people are getting changed and they're primping, and now it's an hour later, and they all arrive at the lobby and they hop into vans. And in Whitney's van, he had. He's telling Sally this tale, and Sally has no idea what he's talking about. He's like, oh, well, we're going to the Iguana, and it was owned by Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton, and we're going to have drinks in Elizabeth Taylor's boudoir. And it was one of the most heated love relationships in the history of Hollywood. And Richard Burton met Ellis with Taylor at a pool party and apparently warned her in the opening line that it was, you've got the greatest tits I've ever seen. I was like, nice line.
Shep Rose
Who are these people?
Ronnie Caram
I wish someone would say that to me. Is he single?
Ben Mandelker
And Whitney's like, that works. Whitney's like, would that line ever work?
Shep Rose
And she goes, oh, gosh. It works at Mar a Lago. Oh, gosh.
Ronnie Caram
So now they get to the iguana, and there's a statue of Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. And Sally's like, oh, my God, Austin, it's us.
Shep Rose
Look.
Ronnie Caram
And Austin grabs Elizabeth Taylor's boobs. I mean, this class, this classy cast. And he's like, that is my hair. And that is Sally, before she had her surgery, got those boobs that her ex husband boyfriend made her get taken out. God. Back in. This is what we called the good old days. Sally.
Ben Mandelker
I wish they had shown a flashback to that surgeon. Be like, wow, We.
Shep Rose
Wow, wow, wow. You want to get rid of these?
Ronnie Caram
Hey, wait a minute. Let me open up your shirt and look at these.
Ben Mandelker
Wow.
Ronnie Caram
Those are Ma'. Am.
Ben Mandelker
This.
Shep Rose
Ali's like, hey, my boobs are still pretty nice.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I'm not even looking, but I'm sure they're great.
Shep Rose
You should look. Hey.
Ronnie Caram
So they go up to the roof to watch the sunset, and they're going through this presidential suite, and they walk past the bed, and Shep's like, is
Shep Rose
this where they banged?
Ronnie Caram
Hey, let's go look at the hot tub. Yeah, they probably banged in here. Maybe they did it like this or like this or like this. Like, you're just. That's all the missionary possession. Shep's like, I want to show you, my favorite position.
Shep Rose
Just laying here. They didn't like this.
Ronnie Caram
And then they did it like this. And then they did it like this. You're just on your back, Shep. Exactly.
Ben Mandelker
You're ruining the legacy of Elizabeth Taylor. Richard Burton. Hot, hot duo. So then Vanita and Sally are talking because everyone's on this balcony, and she's like, can we. Can we chit chat? Because I miss you, and I'm over this. She's. I miss you too. And I just feel like I've taken it to a common ground.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, whoa. Anybody want to drink?
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah. I knew there was a reason why I liked the dude to do that one.
Ronnie Caram
Ben. Sorry about that. Common ground. Well,
Ben Mandelker
the sal is like. She's like, yeah, just don't walk away because it's not like I'm coming at you screaming. She's like, I know I'm not good at that. And. And you're not screaming at me. Well, I'm sorry for bringing up in public, but I'm not trying to throw you under the bus. I mean, we can be fighting and still love each other. And she goes, yeah, I miss my best friend. So they.
Ronnie Caram
Can I have your location again, please? I can't go to sleep unless I know where you are. So now Charlie, and what's funny is this was very. This cast. They're like, okay, go shoot a scene on the balcony. So they all go onto the balcony and they're looking over the railing and stuff, but they're all standing in basically a straight line. And then they're like, okay, you guys gossip about them. And then you guys gossip about them. And they're all standing right next to each other in this big line. So very subtle, very natural the way they do everything. So, yeah, Charlie's talking to Craig, and she's like, well, I talked to Sally, and I feel pretty good about it. I mean, I think things went okay.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I said, I'm having fun, enjoying spending time with Craig, and I like him, and I'm going to keep hanging out with him and I'll see where it goes. Oh, my God, someone mad at me. And then we cut to Sally saying, all I want is, like, in this group is for everyone to be transparent. And Vanita's like, well, that's not gonna happen. I mean, I think the girls have. Are capable of doing that to agree to a degree.
Ronnie Caram
Right?
Ben Mandelker
And sounds like, no, not Charlie. That's what her eyes are saying. She said, well, actually, she goes.
Ronnie Caram
She literally says.
Ben Mandelker
She actually literally says it. I feel like Charlie's hiding something from me.
Ronnie Caram
And I would love to call Sally a hypocrite, but she's not really, because Sally is a lot of things, and one of those things is transparent. She really is. I mean, she doesn't hide anything. And Craig's like, does she know that we kiss? And Charlie's like, no, calm down. Don't say that. Because I think that means that they more than kissed, Right? Because they're acting like, oh, my God, probably kissed. And he just smiles. And so now it's raining.
Ben Mandelker
He smiles and laughs in a way that he's like, I'm gonna make sure that she finds out about this. Don't you worry.
Ronnie Caram
I'm like, don't smile. Yeah, she will know.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
So now they go downstairs to have some dinner, and they're ordering and stuff, and they're talking about how many buttons the guys have buttoned up. And Craig's like, I only buttoned two. I mean, you could probably go down one more. And Austin's like, I just did one. Oh, God, how many do I need to do?
Shep Rose
I think you should just take it off. Here, let me help, big boy.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, my God, just make out already. This is ridiculous. Jesus. Cowbell. Cowbell.
Ben Mandelker
Sally and I are very different in our approach towards men. Sally bats her eyes, and I'm like, a man repeller. I'm gonna do all the weird shit, and if you still like me, then that's awesome. Notice how Corey just been disappeared ever since I cried in his face.
Ronnie Caram
Works every time. She's like that with the audience, too.
Ben Mandelker
I've noticed.
Ronnie Caram
She's just like, oh, my God, we're shooting another scene. Okay, I got it. You ready? Okay, Roll. My cat just pissed in my luggage. Okay. Did you get it? All right, let's wrap it. Hey. I didn't even know I had opening scene for this season. I'm feeding a dead. I'm feeding a frozen rat to my snake. Okay. Get it? No.
Ben Mandelker
In my hoarder apartment, where I've carved out routes. So chef's like, can I say something? And then there's like a thunderclap. Everyone's like, ooh. And then they start playing those white Lotus sounds like. So witners goes, there's been a murder. Is there some. Ronnie, is there someone in your house? You look perturbed.
Ronnie Caram
I do? I look for a turp.
Ben Mandelker
Well, because the lights went out.
Ronnie Caram
The lights are coming on and off.
Ben Mandelker
The lights went off and then you looked off to the side, and then you took your headphone off like, nobody's
Ronnie Caram
coming through the door, but I hear somebody out there.
Ben Mandelker
I just saw a trailer for Scream 7 and there's like, the call is coming from inside the house, so be careful in that.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, still coming from inside the house. I love that. In movie seven, I saw one where the scream person, you know, the hooded robe guy. What do they call it? Smiley face. What are they called?
Ben Mandelker
I don't know.
Ronnie Caram
They have a name. But anyway, the smiley face person is laying down and then someone is thrown over a balcony and they're falling straight on top of the smiley person. So he just puts his knife up
Ben Mandelker
so they'll fall on the side. That was what I saw.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, also, it's still gonna fall on you.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
That doesn't make the person falling at a high speed less heavy.
Ben Mandelker
Does it just like roll out of the way and then stab them when they land?
Ronnie Caram
Yes, that's what I was thinking too. And I was like. But then they would hurt their hand, so that's not really great. Just wait for them to fall and hope they like, why do you have to take credit for every kill? You know?
Ben Mandelker
Can I tell you something? So I mentioned last week my friend wrote this movie, so I went and saw it. The good, good luck, have fun, don't die. So I went to. I saw it to support it. And let me tell you something. When I tell you there were 30 minutes of horror ads beforehand and the movie's not a horror movie, but they're like, we know that people who watch this movie probably want to watch horror too. And it was torture for me. 30 minutes of harm of horror trailers. I might as well be watching a horror movie. I don't want to see horror trailers. They are so intense. They always get quiet and they always do a jump scare. And I'm like, I'm sick of it. I don't want to be startled while I'm waiting to see a movie that's like a thinky comedy type thing. Like, it's like, this is not what I bought tickets for. Okay? I don't want to see your. The screen trail. I didn't mind too much because I, you know, I actually saw the first two screens. But like the other things, there was one about a podcast. There's one about a podcast where a girl plays some recordings that she shouldn't have played and now she's haunted. I was like, don't drag me into this.
Ronnie Caram
It's Odd Man. It's the Odd man cases haunting her. Did you or did you not go and make a call of the Best Buy.
Ben Mandelker
There's probably hidden messages in our podcast, but we're so chatty that they can't get through. The ghost is like, hold on. I'm just trying to possess someone. Kika's just like, pause for one second. Like, no, no. Dead air.
Shep Rose
Never.
Ronnie Caram
No one would possess someone from our podcast. The ghost can't even handle it for that long. They're like, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm just going back to hell. I do not want to listen to this crazy shit anymore.
Ben Mandelker
The ghost got possessed by us. The other ghosts were like, so any luck possessing that podcast? The ghosts come back. Like, that's insane right now. Why are you talking like that? Sorry, man, I just was on grapplings.
Ronnie Caram
I think there's a ghost in my house. I just hear someone walking around going, okay, okay, okay. Well,
Ben Mandelker
so Shep. So Shep is like, okay, everyone, this is the.
Shep Rose
This trip. We're gonna do things that spur you towards inner peace. So we're gonna bring out a big inner smile in the spirit of that. Let's play again.
Ben Mandelker
Bravo. You gotta stop. It's too much.
Ronnie Caram
People just need to be able to have a goddamn conversation. If you can't cast people who can have conversations, stop putting them on tv.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, this is just. This is just garbage. It's too much at this point.
Ronnie Caram
It's literally every show this week has had a game.
Ben Mandelker
I can't. I can't. So New Year's. This. His game is, we're gonna do New Year's resolution.
Shep Rose
But each person can pick something to the left or the right that they want the other person to work on,
Ben Mandelker
which is basically saying, just tell the person who left something that they need to fix. Right. Has nothing.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, but it's also shitty because it's specifically New Year's. And what does everybody say on New Year's? The same thing. It's like. Like Ronnie lose £20. Like, that's rude. Who says that? You know? But it's New Year's resolution, so.
Ben Mandelker
I know. By the way, happy, happy Lunar New Year. It actually is New Year's right now.
Ronnie Caram
It is. What does that mean?
Ben Mandelker
Lunar New Year happened this week. What would you say it did?
Ronnie Caram
What does that mean?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, meaning it's like in, you know, like a Chinese New Year etc, or Tet Vietnam. You know, Lunar New Year was actually last night. Although everyone's hearing this on Thursday. But we're.
Shep Rose
We're.
Ben Mandelker
We're here at the New Year. It's exciting. So, anywho. Yeah, it is really cool.
Ronnie Caram
I just gave Myself some Mac assisted lighting. How do I look? Lunar New Year. It's a new me.
Shep Rose
Okay, I'm going to start. So this goes to something that happened today. I was at Sally and Charlie's delivering luggage, and I did this really funny thing where I said housekeeping, and then this guy was really upset at me, so I just walked right by him. Then I said, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Ben Mandelker
So then.
Shep Rose
So then Charlie said sorry, and then Sally said, don't say sorry. And there's nothing to be sorry for because I was like, whoa. Your personalities are so clearly different. So my thing for you, Charlie, is be more autonomous. Be yourself.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, thank you. I mean, I thought I was. I feel like I did that because I confronted her right after that.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. She's like, I mean, I. I feel like I did that. Sorry. Sorry. If I didn't do it right.
Shep Rose
That's what I'm saying.
Ronnie Caram
Sally's like, well, while we're starting that, I have a problem with you because you don't say thank you and please that often, Shep. And he's like, okay, I accept that. I'm a spoiled brat sometimes.
Ben Mandelker
I really like that. That was a good note, Sally. I like something that's specific. Like you always leave the toilet seat up or you don't wash your hands enough. Like, that's like, give specific notes in these games. That makes me very happy.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. So now it's Vanita's turn, and she's like, I would like to see Austin stand up for himself in more situations in general. It's like, Vanita, you're just taking the thing that was said right before you. I mean, if you're going to start a fight, at least do it originally.
Ben Mandelker
And like, here's. Here's the other thing. I've been very much on Austin's side over Craig, which is shocking. I never would have thought in any sort of world or time timeline that would ever take Austin's side on anything. But I have been more on Austin's side than Craig's over this season and last season. But what I will say is that, like, Austin does stand up for himself. Austin is not a shrinking violet. He is not just, like, whimpering in the corner. Austin is squawking just as much as Craig is squawking. They're all making the same noise. They're all standing up. Like, Austin literally said, I hate you, you know?
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Austin starting fights all the time. He's the one who went to the girls night and started the whole fight between Sally and Craig in the first
Ben Mandelker
place, you know, for himself.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, he's fine. I'm not worried about him. But, yeah, they do. And Shep leads with that, too. Like, oh, my God, poor Austin. You know, he's so manipulated by Craig. You guys are so. Yeah, but she's like, yeah, you need to stand up for yourself, Austin, in more situations and stop being abused by Craig. And Wintner really doesn't like Vanita because last week he was, like, sitting there listening to the argument with her and Sally and what's her buns, and he was like, oh, really? Well, I'm here for Molly, not you, Vanita. Like, he made some snotty comment to Venita, and this week he's telling Craig, well, yeah, obviously that's you, man. Obviously that's you wondering what his deal with Vanita is like. Where'd that come from?
Ben Mandelker
Well, maybe he didn't like how Vanita snapped at him last week, and now he's being, like, all delicate about it. So Craig is like, vanita, you don't know anything about me and Austin's relationship as much as you want to. And we've known each other for over. Over a decade. I know that you're trying to make whatever you're doing, like, a thing, which, I mean, Craig may be right about this, but Craig also is not one who has shied away from. From, like, weighing in with any sort of advice to anyone about anything. So now, all of a sudden, he's pulling the. You don't know about our relationship. I just. I just don't like when people do that, you know, when they are very, very open and feel perfectly happy to weigh in on someone else's shit.
Ronnie Caram
So Austin's like, well, yeah, Craig gets. Craig has a mean streak, and he's definitely pulling it out here. But Vanita started it. We'll say, like, she's starting it with Craig again. It's like, okay, you don't like Craig because you like Craig's ex. Ex. We get it, okay? Maybe you'll be on Paige's show one day. But it's getting a little. It's getting to be a little much sauce.
Ben Mandelker
Like, well, I know everyone's trying to posture, and that's what I'm saying. I don't care what anyone has to say about my relationship with Craigs. Everyone stop posturing. I'm sick of all this posturing. So vanilla's like, well, if I had to close my eyes and hear you talk about Austin, I would say, that man doesn't like you with My eyes closed. I would say with my eyes closed, everyone. Craig's like, well, but you don't. Because I don't talk to you, Vinita. Because I don't know you, Vanita. You don't exist in my world. So just off. And everyone's like, jeez.
Ronnie Caram
I was like, she kind of started it, but God damn, Craig.
Ben Mandelker
It's pretty hard.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, it is. Why you got to go that hard?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I think it's pretty dick.
Ronnie Caram
And. But it's Greg.
Ben Mandelker
That's great. And that's also where it ends. So it's a. We'll see what happens next week after this tense dinner.
Ronnie Caram
Also, he doesn't even talk to Austin and Shep like that. And he's always fighting with them. You know, he doesn't get that nasty even with them. He's a.
Ben Mandelker
He's a little ass. Yeah. I think I'm a shock. Yeah. I don't. I don't like that he. I don't like the tone. I don't like the words. I didn't like that moment at all.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, we're not cool, Craig. But as you know, that's Craig.
Ben Mandelker
Welcome. That's Greg.
Ronnie Caram
That's Greg and that's Craig, everybody. All right, thanks, everybody, so much for being here with us for another day. We will be talking to you for the rest of the week from Miami. So get used to this pale face because it's the last time you're going to see it this pale, people. I'm going to be out there. My moobs are going to be out. I'm just kidding. I'm going to be there with a hat and a lot of sunscreen and a bra. But we will be there. So we'll still be talking to you the rest of the week. Go get your tickets for Watch what Crappens Crappy Awards February 27 over at watch whatcrappens.com for both live show and live streaming. Okay, we'll talk to you next time.
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Southern Charm S11E12: Iguana Be Startin’ Somethin’
Release Date: February 19, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
This episode focuses on recapping Season 11, Episode 12 of Southern Charm entitled “Iguana Be Startin’ Somethin’.” Ben and Ronnie delight in their signature mix of Bravo fandom, wit, and critique as they dissect the group’s cast trip to Mexico, friendship drama, packing habits, and the latest rounds of flirtation, gossip, and confrontation. The two hosts, with their typical irreverence and warmth, walk listeners through both the episode’s plot and southern etiquette, while taking plenty of detours for observational comedy about both the cast and each other.
On Tommy Bahama Fashion
[03:57] Ben: “The breadth of Tommy Bahama. Not only can he do ferns, he could do palms. It's amazing.”
On Southern Gift Etiquette
[10:23] Ronnie: “Do you have to take a gift everywhere in the South? Jesus, I would never go anywhere.”
On Housekeeping Mishap
[36:29] Shep: “I think there was, like, some sort of mistake, which is perfectly okay. Okay, I'm just gonna walk on through with this luggage. Bye.”
On Poolside Sunscreen
[38:09] Ben: "Nobody is stronger than the Mexican sun, okay? So don't think that you're—don't think that you're stronger. Put on sunscreen, okay?"
On New Year’s Resolution Game
[61:09] Shep: “This goes to something that happened today. I was at Sally and Charlie's delivering luggage, and I did this really funny thing where I said housekeeping...”
On Craig's Harshness
[64:31] Craig: “You don’t exist in my world. So just fuck off.”
[65:29] Ben: “Yeah, I think it's pretty dick.”
On Bravo Games Overload
[59:49] Ronnie: “People just need to be able to have a goddamn conversation. If you can’t cast people who can have conversations, stop putting them on TV.”
Ben and Ronnie are as biting, goofy, and affectionate as ever, both lampooning and defending Southern Charm cast members as only Bravo superfans can. Their friendship and insider knowledge drive the tone, keeping it breezy, irreverent, and warm even during discussions of the cast’s nastier moments.
If you haven’t watched the Southern Charm episode or listened to Watch What Crappens before, this recap is all you need: Get all the key drama, hear the best jokes, and skip the ads, games, and filler—just as Ben and Ronnie would want!
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