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Ronnie Caram
Good, how you doing?
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
Good. I'm sitting in my hotel room looking at all the people at the pool, frolicking.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, I want to see the pool view. I just have a view of the valet.
Ronnie Caram
That's otter.
Ben Mandelker
No, it's not. It's really not.
Ronnie Caram
So here we are with the Valley Persian style season 10 episode. Well, season one, episode 10, I think is what this says. Gonessa in the sky with lab diamonds. So on the little preview picture they show when I was about to watch this, it was a picture of Adam and. Yo. Adam and Reza doing tantric yoga. And I almost just stopped. I was like, no, no, I'm not watching this. You cannot make me watch this. I won't do it.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I watched it on the airplane flying here to Miami, so a whole bunch of people had to watch Adam and Reza doing tantric yoga. And I was sitting on the aisle, so a lot of people got to see it. I could not have been more mortified. I've seen a lot of weird on a airplane, but, like, to have Adam and Reza doing all that and being broadcast, everyone around me. Oh, my God, I was so embarrassed. So.
Ronnie Caram
So definitely had Elisa Kudrow from the comeback moment. Like, no one needs to see that. Like, what, though? Come on, people.
Ben Mandelker
Also, these episodes don't need to be super sized, like, every week.
Ronnie Caram
Like, yeah, I'm enjoying half of this. Come on.
Ben Mandelker
Let's not. Let's not.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Okay. So we started Natasha Amir's house where they are looking. They're wrangling their kids, which is exciting. And then we go to MJ and Tommy's house, and MJ puts, like, some foundation on that's like. It's like gold. It's like pure gold color. Are you turning yourself into C3PO? And she's like, look, Tommy, I got this on my face. And he's like, wow, look at you. You look crazy.
Ronnie Caram
You look crazy.
Ben Mandelker
Knocking on doors with that makeup on.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, you look like you got shit on your face. And she's gonna go door to door to try and get customers, which, I mean, look, door to door may work for some stuff. I don't think so, though. I don't think it works anymore. People just get really furious when you come to their door. And I don't know that I'm ever gonna hire an agent who's like, knock, knock. Hi. I live down the street. If you Ever want to sell your house? Get the out of here. That's what I say. You're lucky we're not in Texas. And I can't pull a gun on you for knocking on my door.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I just am shocked that door to door is the thing, especially now in this era of, like, ring cams and whatnot, you know? Like, I just. Especially also in this era of, like, certain organizations coming in and taking people away. I'm not opening any doors. So she's, like, saying that she's gonna be having. She's having a Twilight listing, guys, and she's gonna be having a party for 16 current clients, future clients, and most importantly, Mauricio. It's not a week on Bravo without Mauricio showing.
Ronnie Caram
Mauricio, guys, gotta be on the show somehow. I was walking back to the hotel night last night with our friends, and what do I see? Mauricio right there on a big poster right in front of the freaking uber. Like, can I just escape? You leave me alone. And the poster is him. Like, two women are ripping off of his shirt, Ripping off his shirt. He's just like, oh, yeah, it's me, Mauricio.
Ben Mandelker
Wow, it's too much.
Ronnie Caram
It is. Can I even just have a nice, relaxing evening without Mauricio popping up somewhere? So, yeah, she's practicing door knocking with Tommy. She's like, okay, let's role play. Okay, here's me, door knocking. Knock on door. Hi, I'm. I'm door knocking. Tommy, do you have anything to say? And he's like, it's just so unnatural.
Ben Mandelker
And she goes, well, the mantra is, I'm meeting my neighbors and I'm letting them know I am not gonna let real estate sign go up in this neighborhood without the same. Without saying, well, at least they met me. They all have to meet me. I'm like, that was a pretty long mantra. So she's like, well, I know the wood has got the. Has gotten to come out, but you can't put for sale signs on my block without getting me. Without me getting a piece. That's.
Ronnie Caram
You gotta tell people. It's like doing mob. Mob style. You want to sell your house in this neighborhood? I get a piece.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Put a dead fish in their mailbox too. Okay. Scare the out of them. Have a gold n show up with a knife. Okay, Tell. Listen, I can't. I can get her out of here, but you got to pay something.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. So then he is telling us, oh, yeah, my wife and I really love each other. You know, the bickering, dividing Whatever. At the end of the day, you got nothing for nothing. And you could. You could. You got that. You got what me and MJ have. Because if you don't. If you can't fart in someone's face first thing in the morning and still got him loving you, what are you even doing?
Ben Mandelker
Well, we know we have our flaws, but it's like, I also love, love, love, love so much the moments that I feel wholly supported by Tommy. Not so much the moments where he's making fart noises with his armpit, but. Yeah, more of the support stuff. Tommy, that'd be great.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. And she's like, I mean, I don't know. I need to practice. Like, maybe I'm gonna suck the first knock. And he goes, what? I thought you said maybe I was gonna suck the first cog. Like, what? Wow.
Ben Mandelker
So then MJ goes out to start, go knocking on doors, and nobody answers. No one answers.
Ronnie Caram
Girl, I don't even answer the door for the Uber people. And I told them to come over. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
No one comes. So then we go to a studio where Tanina is doing a photo shoot for her skincare line, her serum, and Reza Jax shows up, and he's like, whoa, I love doing pro bono modeling. Are you stressed? And she's like, yeah, tomorrow I'm going to do, like, a lot of deliveries. And my partner comes in. I just have to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I got to do a photo shoot. So she's having a lot. She could be doing a launch party for her skincare, which will probably be the season finale party next week. And her skin care is called Skin by Tanine. And basically she needs to get these photos done so that way she can put them on her website.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, I don't know that we need another skincare product from some dealer celebrity, but, you know, I mean, you go live your dreams and stuff, but I think. I think that sky was actually kind of helping her. We do not have moisturizer for dogs.
Ben Mandelker
No.
Ronnie Caram
And that's actually one of the better ideas that I've heard on Bravo. So maybe you should stop being evil to your friend and just realize she might have given you a good idea.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Resa Jax is like, so what's going on with the Sky? Is the vibe the same as when you finish that lunch or. Or, you know, that I awkwardly set up for you guys? And she's like, I feel like we had that lunch and we ended it amicably and on a good note. But, like, also, at this point, it's Just like a very gray area. So I'm really not sure, but if
Ronnie Caram
I see her at the Twilight Open house, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna be like, hi. So that's my plan.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
And so she says that she expects that sky would have called her after the lunch if it was a real makeup session, but she never heard from sky, so whatever.
Ben Mandelker
And another point that's very important for her to convey because she says it about 12 times this episode. I mean, if I see her, I'll say, hello, I'm not five years old. Like, okay. So she says that literally every scene she's like, well, I got to go to the dry cleaners. If I see sky there, I'm going to say hi to her. I'm not five years old.
Ronnie Caram
Which she doesn't really, by the way.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
So. So then they do this model shoot. Did we ever talk about how when they were in Palm Springs and they had that psychic medium or whatever come over and she was like, let me, let me guess. You used to dance to Michael Jackson. He's like, oh, my God, that's crazy. Did we ever talk about the fact that he has a gigantic Michael Jackson tattoo on his arm?
Ben Mandelker
I did not notice that.
Ronnie Caram
It's because it's blurred out. But someone sent us a picture of it. We're such dodo birds. And that site, they're all such dodo birds. You've got Michael Jackson as a child right here. She's like, let me guess. You danced to Michael Jackson songs as a child. It's like, oh my God. How did you know?
Ben Mandelker
That is hilarious. He has it like a visual clue on his body for the psychic.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
So he does some Zoolander faces and everything because he shoots photos for her skin care Etc.
Ronnie Caram
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Ronnie Caram
But I'm worried to say that because someone could be like, oh, you're killing your dog. You know, you gave him a cucumber. So.
Ben Mandelker
Well, but these are, these are actually arowan cucumbers that she's feeding. So they're like pretty healthy. They're pretty good for you.
Ronnie Caram
They're healthy, yeah. The dog might die young, but at least he's gonna die feeling richer than everybody else around him. So, yeah, they're talking, basically they're talking about her dad because her dad is dying of Alzheimer's and he's in Iran, so he's being taken care of by her family. And so she has a call with her sister and cries and tells us, you know, in an ideal life, it would have been amazing and very helpful to have a best friend to actually take a bit of this weight off my shoulder. But, you know, Tanin can do it. So like, okay, I don't use your dad's illness as like a guilt thing against Tanin, please. On the tv. So it was like this whole, it
Ben Mandelker
was a very emotional scene and you feel bad for her. She's like separated. It's difficult. She's going to go visit and then she turns it into a. Well, if Tanine were here, you're like,
Ronnie Caram
yeah, she turns it into. Isn't Tanina like, come on, Sky. I'm still reading for Sky. But I'm like, oh, sky, come on.
Ben Mandelker
So now we go to a crystal store, and Gigi and MJ are there, and they're looking at crystals. And then they start doing aura photos, which is. I always think aura photos are hilarious. And because. Just because it's like a. It's like, oh, we put some colors around your faces in post production, and that's your aura, and you can pay me 200 now. So they sit, and Gigi's like, aura photography is when they read your aura colors and your energy. And my energy is dangerous. Dangerous girl from the wrong side of the tracks. Watch out, she has a knife. But life is energy, you know, and, like, the whole universe is within an atom, similarly to the space. So wait, what was the question? I got lost in my danger aura.
Ronnie Caram
I looked at my danger photo, and it wasn't even a colored. Was just a flashing siren because the police are coming. Because I'm scary.
Ben Mandelker
My aura wears a leather jacket because it's tough.
Ronnie Caram
So they have indigo around their aura, which means they are being talked about right now on a podcast called Indigo Crappings.
Ben Mandelker
Indigo means that's the color that sounds closest to. I need to go. Yes, need to go.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, I like that. This one, they're like, let's just. We're in the Valley. Let's do, like, crazy LA things every episode. We'll go to a weed store, and then we'll go get people's auras done. Then we'll go to, like, a Botox place. Does anybody just walk around to home Goods anymore? I feel like that's a real friend show when you're like, let's get a. Let's get a waffle to carry around at that waffle store next door to the home Goods. And then just walk around the home goods and, like, bitch about people that we know.
Ben Mandelker
It's just crazy that the only Real Housewives show that ever really did that was Dorinda and Bethany on Real Housewives of New York. And then Bethany Hembrid, which is like, that's like, not even the. That's not even the city where you'd expect to see a home goods scene. Like, they're not even in the suburbs. And somehow those two are the ones that manage to have a home. Good scene on Bravo. And, like, we've never seen it again.
Ronnie Caram
So the late the oral lady is like, okay, I'm from looking at this, it looks like you guys just, like, everything being calm and peaceful. Okay, you suck. And I'm not paying you my 200.
Ben Mandelker
No, you don't know what you're doing. You don't know what you're doing.
Ronnie Caram
So now they have their private scene, you know, she's like, okay, so as, as I often do in the aura shop, you two go ahead and talk and I'm just gonna go to the back and I don't know, look at, look at my past aura pictures. So you guys just make yourself comfortable.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, like any business owner, I will just leave the customers in the front of the store unattended to while I hide in the closet.
Ronnie Caram
So mj, what's going on in your marriage? She's like, well, I feel like I'm juggling a lot every day with pickup and drop off because, you know, it's difficult. And even Mauricio told me, if you want to be a real estate person, you're going to have to miss some drop offs and some pickups. So I'm practicing by being at the aura store instead of being at the drop off pickup place.
Ben Mandelker
Like, that's not what he meant by that. He meant they'll be using that time selling houses, not going to the Aura store or getting the Botox place.
Ronnie Caram
If you want to be a realtor, you're going to have to have somebody do your pickups while you get Botox. That's how realtors do it.
Ben Mandelker
I have a sincere question, and this is not coming from a sarcastic or cutting or trying to be funny place.
Ronnie Caram
Then I don't want to hear it.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, hold on, let me take a swig of this coffee because I just got something in my throat. Maybe that's a sign. But this is a sincere question. I think I asked you this. I don't remember if I asked it on the podcast or not, but if I didn't, I really am interested to know in like Modern Times in 2026, what the deal is with school buses. Because for me growing up, like, everyone just took this. Took the school bus. And like, like if you miss the bus, then like my mom would drive me to school or every now and then my mom will be like, I'll drive to school. But by and large I took the bus and everyone took the bus. And of course I was in the suburbs. It's different. So I'm like actually generally curious. I feel like there's a lot of talk, there's a lot of talk generally about like, what goes on a pickup and drop off, but here there's a lot of talk about like, you know, there's a whole scene later on about Pickup and drop off. And then, look, we don't want to let their kid be at the bus stop. And I'm really genuinely curious. Are people using school buses less or is it we're just not and we're not seeing it as much or I like, like, our school buses still a thing that people are using.
Ronnie Caram
I don't know, but they sure need them. Maybe it's like a private school thing, you know, Maybe it goes like some kind of private school that doesn't have a bus that goes to the district. I mean, I don't know, but my kid's gonna get on the damn bus.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not making. I'm not making a value judgment or anything. I'm not being like. I'm just like, I'm curious because I just feel like so much. There's so much talk about, like, we don't miss a single pickup. We don't miss a little drop off. I'm like, put them on the bus. But, like, is that naive of me to say? I guess that's what I'm asking because I just generally don't know. And I'm like, I cannot reference, you know, the way school was in 1987 versus, you know, 20, 26. Yeah. Old.
Ronnie Caram
Four years. Yeah. It's a long time, you know, I don't know. I don't know how it works. I wish I could answer you, but.
Ben Mandelker
Leave us a comment. Leave us a comment and tell us about drop off and school buses.
Ronnie Caram
So she's like, you know, I, like, you know, I just don't want to be going to life with my head in the sand without realizing if everything's cool with Tommy and the way it should be. And like, I don't know, I'm just not feeling good. And so Gigi's like, well, you. You've been playing with the stones. How are the stones feeling for you? And she's like, I don't know. The stones aren't feeling very good for me. She's like, well, they're not feeling good for you because, you know, you're. You're seeing things and you're feeling things because you've got stones. You've got the energy of the stones coming in at you. You strip them of their energy. Now you don't want them. You just strip those stones. You're just gonna leave them here in the store? I can't. I can't. I'm feeling things will destroy. It's like breaking all the windows of the aura shop.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, Jeez So then Gigi's saying, she's like, let me talk now. Dennis and I are gonna going, are gonna get back into business. You know, Dennis bought the lab diamond machine a year ago and we were talking about doing it and you're going to do lab diamonds. I was like, what label?
Ronnie Caram
This guy, he bought a lab diamond
Ben Mandelker
machine, which, as we all know, are diamonds in the shape of Labrador retrievers. No, Gigi, that's not what are.
Ronnie Caram
We're making diamonds out of dead Labradors. I learned it from Reza Scene last week.
Ben Mandelker
Those are diamonds that go in your labia. That's why they're called lab diamonds. Like, no, Gigi, of course they bought a lab diamond. Of course they're gonna put out like some sort of budget diamond situation. Like, I don't know, like this guy. Nothing says you're going, you're going to get into some sort of scandal, then co investing with the guy who's making dildos and lab diamonds.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, from the place that brought you your favorite butt plug. Lab diamonds.
Ben Mandelker
I know. So Dennis, like, yeah, you know, you make, you make raw diamonds and you send them to India, they cut and polish it there and then they insert it there and then they ship it back to us. It's all good.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, fuck yeah, Sounds amazing. This whole thing with sky really sent me over the edge. So I'm glad I have a lab diamond business. Also, why is it, why is Dennis working with Gigi at all? She doesn't do anything. She brings nothing to the table. Is it because she's like an influencer? I guess she has followers, she's on camera.
Ben Mandelker
That's it.
Ronnie Caram
It must be because she literally does nothing. Like, if you're going to go sell lab diamonds, why would you go to Gigi? But I guess that makes sense.
Ben Mandelker
Well, Gigi says that so the whole thing with sky really sent me over. I was, she's so lucky I didn't grab my knife and stab her. So I pretty much have a business that we're operating called Valley Girl Diamonds. Valley Girl, just so you know, is an accumulation of everything that's been going on, you know. Cause Dennis is back in my life on a business scale, so it just makes sense. And my brain, brains, you know, and when I'm thinking this chick is talking all this shit, guess what? I just made a new company. Valley Girl Diamonds. Bitch. Used to be called Violent Girl Diamonds Bitch, but now it's just Valley Girl. Yeah,
Ronnie Caram
Valley Girl. You know, Dennis is back in my life as a business scale, but it just makes sense, you know, it's, he's, he's got business sense, I've got brains, you know? No. And who calls it Valley Girl? Who wants a diamond that's based on the Valley? Yeah, like, why would you do that? Suburb diamonds.
Ben Mandelker
I know, right? Staten Island Diamonds.
Ronnie Caram
Shelby, who took our notes today, went to the website Valley Girl Diamonds. And she said, just so you know, my AV software flagged it as a fishing site and told me not to go in.
Ben Mandelker
She went in anywhere way. She took a screenshot. And I love that the site shows a diamond. It says Valley Girl Diamonds. And then it has text over it that says elegance in every ethical sparkle. Right. And that's of course what I think of when I get something called Valley Girl Diamonds.
Ronnie Caram
I want to found the Claire's sparkle. I need every ethical to sparkle like a knife glinting in the sun. So MJ's like, oh my God, Valley Girl is going to be amazing. Yeah, I mean, insulting the Valley. And I'm gonna show you what Valley Girl can do. I'm making something out of a bad moment.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, God, no. You're actually confirming every stereotype that sky has of the Valley. Trashy, trashy, trashy things.
Ronnie Caram
Exactly. You're lame ass shit to you Diamonds. Get out of here.
Ben Mandelker
It's like two bit criminals. Trashiness. You're not doing anything to help the Valley right now.
Ronnie Caram
Dildo Diamonds. Can't wait. So now we go to a coffee shop with Amir and Natasha and they order coffee and the barista goes, thank you. Love you guys. And he goes, did she just. Did she just say I love you? And she says, I think. I think she just said I love you. And they're like, your coffee's ready. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. Love you. So that's just what you say.
Ben Mandelker
Reza pops up and is like, hey, Natasha, when you hear her say that she loves a mirror, does that make you feel like less of a wife? Just wondering.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, that was very Los Angeles.
Ben Mandelker
Love you.
Ronnie Caram
So he's like, speaking of children, I went to my appointment with the urologist and so we. He talks about how there's going to be a week of recovery. So he did go get it checked out, but it's important to him because, you know, she needs to know that if he does do this, they have to have sex between 20 and 30 times over a six week period. And she's like, yeah, that's a lie.
Ben Mandelker
I feel like that was a trap for her to be like, never mind. I'm like, just jerk. Off, sir. And he's like, and I think we should do it together. It's like a joint venture. And she's like, no. And. But then he goes, all that aside, I'm kind of reluctant to do it. I was like, what? So him basically going to have the consult. He knew he wasn't going to do it anyway. It's like when people are crossing the street, you're waiting to make a right turn, and someone's in the crosswalk. And so what they do is they run. They sort of do a jog over the first half of the street, but then walk the second half. And the jog is to show, look, I'm making an effort. But then they start walking because they're like, but I don't want to make an effort. But I don't want you to accuse me of not making an effort. So I did make an effort, but
Ronnie Caram
now, basically, going to the grocery store and buying a bunch of fruits and vegetables and then just letting them rot in your fridge all week. And you're like, but why didn't I lose any weight? I bought nail.
Ben Mandelker
That's exactly right. So he's like, I went to the doctor and I'm not gonna do it. So he's like, I'm trying to show Natasha that I do care about how she feels by not doing anything that she's asked me to do.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, basically. And he does the whole like. Well, you know, we. With my first marriage, we had so much trouble having a child that now I don't want to do something to stop myself from having a child because it seems like it's dishonoring the first. Shut the fuck up. You don't get away with that. I'm sorry that your first wife passed away, but that's enough of this. You go get that shit tied.
Ben Mandelker
Tie it up. Tie it up. It's reversible. It's reversible.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, it's reversible. You're traumatic. Won't get your tubes tied start. No, sir.
Ben Mandelker
So Resa, Jax at his place is. Lowers himself into a cold plunge, which I feel like that's weird that you like. I feel like I wouldn't do that alone. I need someone to watch me in case I, like, die. And then we go to Beauty by Niera and Sunina enters, and Gigi and MJ are right behind. They're gonna get their Botox or a. Will they? So Gigi is like, hey, Tanin, are you smiling or frowning? Cause either way, I don't like it. I'm gonna Cut a bitch.
Ronnie Caram
You smiling at me? Cause if you're smiling at me, I'll punch that smile right off of your face. And if you're frowning at me, I'll stab that frown right off of your face, so. Which is a bitch.
Ben Mandelker
You think I'm funny? You think I'm funny? How about this? You think my fists are funny? Cause I'm violent.
Ronnie Caram
So they're like, oh, my God, Botox. We need to get Botox. And MJ goes, yeah, maybe I'll get my lips done, too. And Tanin's like, no, babe, no more lips.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, you're good. You're good on the lips.
Ronnie Caram
Like, next thing you know, she's gonna look like Mufasa.
Ben Mandelker
I didn't know Mufasa had big lips, but that's fine.
Ronnie Caram
I was wondering that, too. That's. I was like, I hope Ben remembers, like, a good enough Mufasa, you know, image to remember if that was a thing. Isn't that a lion?
Ben Mandelker
Well, you know, MUFASA is, like, 30 years. It's been 30 years. So, like, we're gonna see Mufasa and, like, Mufasa is gonna look like Larsa Pippin. Like, hey, guys, welcome to Pride Rock. This is my place. Here's my son, Simba. I really love my son so much. And, like, welcome to all the animals. Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Mufasa is going to get its own spin off, called the Valley Mufasa style. They're just like, who do we put the. Who do we put the retired Bravo people on? Just. Just create the mvally. I just looked up Mufasa. Mufasa doesn't even have lips. Gigi.
Ben Mandelker
I think she probably pulled a band and referenced something else entirely, thinking that she was like. She probably thought she was referencing, like, Maribel or.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
Or.
Ronnie Caram
Who's that? I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
I meant. I just literally did it as I was making fun of myself doing it. I meant to say Marisol, and I said, maribel.
Ronnie Caram
See, she's probably meant to reference the little girl robot from Small Wonder Vicky.
Ben Mandelker
So then Nayara of Nayera's Botox comes
Ronnie Caram
out, and she's like, oh, my God, it's actually her.
Ben Mandelker
It's my era.
Ronnie Caram
We're getting it done by the Naira.
Ben Mandelker
Give me the numbing cream because I feel things so passionately.
Ronnie Caram
Do you have numbing cream to put on my brain? Because it's just roiling over with violence.
Ben Mandelker
My brain is braining because I'm mad at my sister.
Ronnie Caram
So they're talking About Skye, because I've got literally nothing else going on. So they're talking about if Skye's gonna come to the Twilight Open. Oh, my God. Why would you invite her to a house in the Valley, of all places? And MJ's like, well, she is in the market for a house. And this house does have a pool and a horrible sister in it. Horrible.
Ben Mandelker
So MJ's phone rings. And horrible sister in it. So MJ's phone rings, and it's the school. And they're like, hi, Baby Shams is here. And no one's here to pick him up. There is a man at the door saying, I just want to meet Baby Shams. But we feel like that's not the dad. Do you want to do tantric yoga while we wait for Baby Shams?
Ronnie Caram
Sir, please take that to the parking lot. I have to say, this did not sound like the first time from this principal. They're like, all right. Hi, it's me again. Baby Shams is in the fucking office again. Is anybody gonna come get this baby? Okay.
Ben Mandelker
So many of jams. So MJ's really upset, and so she calls Tommy and. Hi, you've reached Tommy. I'm farting right now. Please leave a message. And I'll fart on top of that, too.
Ronnie Caram
Bye. This is Tommy. I'm just taking a huge jump right now. Leave a message, you fucking idiot.
Ben Mandelker
Boop. This is Tommy. I'm watching the Mets. Just kidding.
Ronnie Caram
I'm taking a poop.
Ben Mandelker
Just kidding.
Ronnie Caram
I'm taking a poop while I'm watching the Mets.
Ben Mandelker
Leave a message.
Ronnie Caram
And MJ is like, we live, like, 10 minutes away from the school. This is ridiculous. I mean, he said he wants to support me, but then he doesn't even support me. I'm very busy right now getting Botox. Also, the scene is so funny because Botox literally takes five minutes. They're acting like, oh, my God, what
Ben Mandelker
are we going to do?
Ronnie Caram
The Botox day is ruined. They go like this. And then you go, leave and get your kid.
Ben Mandelker
She has, like, a dot matrix on her forehead. Because they, like, planned it all out. But I guess probably they're, like, filming over in, like, Studio City, and she's all like, the school's all the way in Calabasas. You know?
Ronnie Caram
That's true. Calabasas isn't just an easy track to go grab the kid.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And so. But it is funny because she's like, you know, Mauricio says I have to have. You know, I'm gonna have to miss some drop Offs. But she's literally getting Botox instead. No, this is.
Ronnie Caram
I know. I mean, I can see why she's mad. He's supposed to go pick up the kids. He can't even do that. I get it. It's just funny watching them talk about this in a Botox shop.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
So she keeps calling him and she keeps getting messages. So she gets upset and goes to the lobby and Gigi goes and sit with her. Sits with her, and there's a bowl of little Hershey's Kisses. And so MJ just starts, like, opening them and pounding them because she's nervous. And she's like, where is he? Why isn't he answering? I don't know. This is a conversation you need to have with your husband, preferably with a noose in your hand so we really catch who's boss.
Ben Mandelker
Maybe his battery's dead. Is his battery dead? I'll tell you who else is going to be dead. Anyone who crosses me. I'm angry. So MJ's like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'm just, like, upset because I just can't rely on him. I know. Because you're not there to feel like you don't feel like you're not there. And you feel like you can't be there for shams, but you are there. Mare, don't put the trash in here, okay? You are there. You just happen to be in a Botox shop while your son is scared into school. That's okay, Mare. Sim. I'm making it better for you.
Ronnie Caram
Why do we keep eating these Hershey's Kisses? Just because they're there doesn't mean we have to keep unwrapping them and putting them in our mouths. Oh, my God. I can't stop eating the Hershey's Kisses. I have to spit them out. Spits out like, a whole mouthful of
Ben Mandelker
I just got married to one Hershey's Kiss to make another Hershey's Kiss jealous.
Ronnie Caram
I've got an idea. I'm gonna start making Hershey's kisses with Dennis. It's gonna change everything.
Ben Mandelker
Lab made Hershey's Kisses.
Ronnie Caram
They're like regular Hershey's Kisses, but he makes them in a machine and then ships them off to India and waits for them to be shaped and then they're shipped back. What could go wrong?
Ben Mandelker
So then MJ gets through to Tommy. Yeah, babe. And she's like, where are you? Do you have my son? No, not yet. He hasn't come out yet. I don't know, it took me literally 25 minutes to park the car. How does it take 25 minutes to park the car at school? What's going on here? Are you. Is your kid going to school at Dodger Stadium?
Ronnie Caram
Don't they have a part. Don't they have, like, a carpool lane? Yeah, he's, like, at the Hollywood bowl going to school.
Ben Mandelker
How is this so inefficient? Like, the kid is waiting in. The kid's waiting in the office. That means people have already come and picked up their kids. What else? There's no traffic in the park. Yeah, that's true.
Ronnie Caram
There's nobody at the school, sir. You're there an hour past the school ending. That's.
Ben Mandelker
You're at tcby. We know where you are.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, here comes one right now. So she's like, well, but he's been in the office for 30 minutes. Well, I've been trying to park for 25, so I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
Ben Mandelker
Well, you could call the school and let them know that you're parking.
Ronnie Caram
That man was taking a nap.
Ben Mandelker
That's 100% correct.
Ronnie Caram
Jobless ass was at home taking.
Ben Mandelker
I don't believe it. Yeah, like, literally, if you're running late and you know your kid is there, you, like, call the school and say, hey, I'm in the. I mean, I'm looking for a spot. Or, can you bring them out to the curb? I'll pick him up at the curb, whatever it is. But not like, I was looking for a spot in my school's parking lot for 25 minutes. No, I don't believe.
Ronnie Caram
It's like, well, no one's more supportive of me, all right? Because she's. She's good. You know, she's got all this stuff to do. She's got to go to showing. She's got to do stuff like that. Who's taking care of the kid? It's me.
Ben Mandelker
Me.
Ronnie Caram
It's me, okay? That's what I'm here for. I'm not leaving him at the bus stop, all right? Okay, but you should, because the bus stop is more dependable than you.
Ben Mandelker
It's a service, okay? We're paying for it.
Ronnie Caram
Marry the bus driver.
Ben Mandelker
So MJ's like. She's like, if I'm at a showing or in a meeting or getting Botox, then I need to have that peace of mind that I don't have to keep one eye on my phone to see who's calling. And the next time, at least you could just do actually be 15 minutes early.
Ronnie Caram
So she's like, yeah, he's lying. And they're like, well, is it usual that he's late? And she's like, well, what's usual is that I'm doing the pickup. That's what's. That's what's unusual. And Gigi's like, that's a little embarrassing. It's a little embarrassing. You're. You're starting lab diamonds with Dennis. You're not allowed to talk about what's embarrassing.
Ben Mandelker
Valley girl diamond.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
MJ's like, this doesn't help me trying to have my big speech with Mauricio for my event tomorrow because he literally said, if you want to level up your business, you're gonna miss a lot of pickups and drop offs. You're going to miss a lot of pickups and drop offs. Offs. Offs like Botox.
Ronnie Caram
So they're like, this sucks for her, you know? And they're asking her if she's happy and she's like, I don't know how to answer that. So then we go to Reza and Adam's house, and Reza's eating blackberries off of a BlackBerry plant and Adam's sweeping just their home. Their home life is kind of cute, I guess. I'm surprised that this ended up so peacefully with Reza because I saw a post the other day reminding us of Reza's history on this show. And it was like, hey, let's not forget. Reza was the guy who dumped Adam right before their wedding and then still took the trip to Thailand, but didn't take Adam and just took his friends instead and then married Adam at some restaurant as a surprise. So Adam couldn't. Adam couldn't even invite his friends and family. That's who Reza is.
Ben Mandelker
I forgot that too.
Ronnie Caram
I forgot about it too, but I was cracking up because I'm like, wow, how are they so peaceful? Has Adam just given up or what?
Ben Mandelker
I think the most shocking thing is how Reza is actually quite a bit of an afterthought on this show this season. He doesn't really have a storyline. He just sort of pops in and he agitates. But even that he's only really agitated in one area. And the rest he's just sort of like, around. So it's. It's surprising because I feel like Reza was the main selling point, like Reza and mj. But like, Reza is, is and always has been the star of this group. And so it's weird that he's. He's really on the sidelines so much.
Ronnie Caram
He's trying. He is trying, man. He comes in there and tries to start the mess, but he's not with as stupid people as he was before. And these people, like, he's trying with sky and it's just not going to work. He looks like an idiot.
Ben Mandelker
Absolutely.
Ronnie Caram
And you've got a huge villain in Sky. I mean, they could really be doing a number with sky and she's just not falling for it. And I love that for her.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, actually Sky. Sky is like really good at like not letting Reza work his magic on her. She like basically tells Reza to shut the fuck up later in the episode. And it works. So Reza's like, so, hey, I was texting with Tommy and actually I hit him up and I said, I just want to say that I appreciate you responding. And I was nervous about reaching out. Production aside, I'd love to meet up and chat off camera if you're open to it. And he said, appreciate you reaching out. So let's touch base once filming is done and go from there.
Ronnie Caram
I'm sorry to repeat all of that because none of it was important, but it was so funny just listening to Reza read.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, let me read you the text that I wrote to Tommy. I just wanted to say that I
Ronnie Caram
appreciate you response like, oh my God, can we just. Adam, you read it. Pass the phone. So Adam's like, that sounds promising. Sometimes it takes a minute for someone to get there, but eventually the Bulgar wheat soaks and it becomes soft enough to eat tabooli and friendship.
Ben Mandelker
And then Adam's like, there's a knock on the door and are you expecting someone? Oh my God, it's gonna be Tommy with a flower plot duck. So Adam's like, maybe I'm gonna go to the door and, and see if you want to go see if you want to put this in the closet. He, he. So there's a guy named Brandon and he's like this handsome guy. And Adam leads him to the backyard and Reza's like, dude, there is a very handsome, tall black man in the backyard. Like, what the hell am I doing here? Am I getting the three red that I've always wanted? Adam, we're breaking up. I have a new husband now. We're going to Thailand.
Ronnie Caram
What? Everybody wants surprise. Tantric yoga
Ben Mandelker
on a hot 95 degree day in the valley.
Ronnie Caram
Outside in the valley. Yeah, sounds sexy. So the guy's like, okay, well if you haven't done this before, it's great. Okay. I'm kind of gonna be your first date in la.
Ben Mandelker
You're going to pop the cherry.
Ronnie Caram
What?
Ben Mandelker
Bitches be crazy. Tantric sex in my own backyard. Like, what? This is such white people. Seriously. So Adam's like, reza and I definitely are making steps to listen and communicate more. And my husband says I don't him enough affection. So now I am going to learn the act of finding ways to ejaculate without even having to touch in the first place.
Ronnie Caram
When Gigi said all I have to do is look at him and he'll ejaculate, I was in. So then, like, oven. It's like spiritual oven mitts.
Ben Mandelker
So they now start practicing tantric yoga, which is a lot of, you know, a lot of touching and feeling and writhing.
Ronnie Caram
And the guy's like, you guys need to get root to root. What the does that mean? I don't want to think about their roots. So they're touching and they're massaging. And then he's like, bends Reza over and is like, kind of like doing, like, fuck poses behind him. This whole thing, I mean, at least they're closed. This could have been worse. It could have been like hot yoga naked, you know, with just some little fuzz outs. So I. I guess most of this I was thinking, well, this could be worse. But I still don't need this. Nobody needs us. Aren't you guys trying to build an audience?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. If this was. This was not helpful. And I really, again, I can't emphasize how embarrassing it was for me on the airplane watching this. So Reza's like, sexual touch is great. Yes. But it's just about feeling connected, like that's who I am. And let me see pictures of, like. We see him in, like, a happy baby pose and everything, and he's like, what's your favorite pose? And Adam says he likes downward dog.
Ronnie Caram
F. F. So then we go to MJ's Twilight open house, and Layla's there. Guys, now, we've all been missing Layla. Yeah. And Layla's like, oh, my God, we need some champagne. This is crazy. I mean, we need a pre party. So they start drinking while they're setting up. And we see the house. It's 5,600 square feet, five bedroom, five bathroom. It looks like pretty much every other house. It's like kind of that, like, farmhouse modern, cheap remodel slapped over an older house.
Ben Mandelker
It looks empty and echoey and bare. And so, you know, MJ's saying that Mauricio's coming and stuff. And she's like, you know, I had this big meeting, and he said, if you want to net a million a year, you're gonna have to miss a lot of pickup.
Ronnie Caram
Literally, all MJ took for that whole meeting is like, I don't have to do carpool anymore.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. That's all. That's all I have to do. And yet she says how Tommy had pick up and he was 30 minutes late. And Lila goes, so he didn't know what time he's supposed to go pick up. He's like. She's like, he knew. I'm just humiliated. I'm mortified. I'm sad. I'm still really pissed.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. So she's talking about how she's trying to build for her family, and he's just blowing it. So she calls Tommy. Tommy's bringing stuff over, and she's like, hey, I just want you to know that Reza and Tom. Oh, no, I'm sorry. She's talking to Layla still. I thought it was a later part. She's saying, I want you to know Reza and Tommy have been texting back and forth, and so now I need to tell Tommy Reza's coming. So she caught. This is where she caught. I'm sorry. Sorry, you guys. I should just scroll. So she calls Tommy, and she's like, I just want to warn you, Reza's gonna be here. He's like, got it, got it. I'm on the way. And I thought, wow, that's so casual. Like, now he's gonna be fine with Reza. I misunderstood. Misunderstood that one need to adjust one
Ben Mandelker
little aspect of what you're saying. She calls Tommy, and Tommy does not take her call. And then Layla calls Tommy and he takes the call. Oh.
Ronnie Caram
And then.
Ben Mandelker
And MJ's like, why aren't you taking my call? And he goes, oh, I did answer your call, but I hung up right away. If you hang up on someone, it doesn't go to voicemail, sir guy. He's just lying now. But anyway, so she warns him that Reza will be there when he drops stuff off. And then Reza comes over. This is actually my favorite version of Reza when he comes over and he critiques a place. You know, like, I actually think that they really. They should give Reza a show where he sets a place up for staging to go on the market. Because I think he's actually pretty good at it. And he, like, walks around and he's
Ronnie Caram
like, you did that remodeling show. Remember?
Ben Mandelker
It's different. Remodeling is different. I think just staging, like, what to do to make it look better for sale instead of, like, the remodel show. Was so silly because it was like they went through all these schematics they rendered on. On the iPad and that people didn't even do any of it. It was so stupid. But Reza is like, I'm a realtor, so I know how difficult it is to pull off a Twilight open because you're wearing a lot of hats. And obviously, I want MJ to succeed, and anything I could do to help her, I know she's having Mauricio, her boss, come by, so it's, like, anxiety at another level because it's also a chance for me to get in front of a Mauricio, and then I could get the listing.
Ronnie Caram
So they go through this tour, and
Ben Mandelker
he's like, oh, are you gonna fix those ceilings?
Ronnie Caram
Because there's, like, cracks on the ceiling, and, like, that's bad. And, like, look, the sliding glass door doesn't work right. Like, do you see how this is turning? It's like Skye's hairline. It's, like, from water going in here.
Ben Mandelker
I was like, oh, my God, look. You know, you have weeds here by the pool. And I'm just like, but I think we wanted a kid. Keep that, though. She's like, you want to keep the weed that's growing in the cracks by the pool?
Ronnie Caram
Well, she's saying, I think that, you know, the people that. The people that buy that can take care of it. She's like, they can get it. If it's her house, they can fix it. And so she says no. She's not offended by his two cents, because that's his love language. And if your friends can't be honest with you, you're screwed.
Ben Mandelker
Tommy shows up, and he's got supplies, and so he sort of, like, he's, like, leaving them at the curb. So Adam goes there, and, like, Adam grabs ice from Tommy, and it's like, wow, look at them interacting. He grabbed the ice from Tommy, and Tommy's like, here's the ice. That was, like, it. I was like, who? They're talking. Then Reza comes outside. He's like, hey, bro. And he comes out, and he, like, tries to do a fist bump, but Tommy just totally ignores Reza and just keeps on going. Reza's like, oops. Psych. Yeah, great.
Ronnie Caram
He just walks back to the minivan, and, like, won't come out from behind it. Brett is like. Like, I think, like, Tommy and I
Ben Mandelker
texting was, like, a milestone, but I'm feeling his body language, and it's not even, like, open or respect receptive. He's behind a minivan.
Ronnie Caram
So I don't think he's very open to a conversation. No, he's not coming here to shoot with you. He's coming to drop ice. I did think Tommy was going to come in and at least say, like, hi, but I think he knew that Reza would be like, let's have a scene about it.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I mean, I. It's. This is like another weird thing where, like, in the real world, I. I don't know. I think Tommy, this is a big deal for mj and he should have just stayed and helped set up and, like, put his to the side for one night, you know? But he also knows it's a TV show. This is where it gets meta. Because it's like the. But we know it's a TV show. We know it'll be a scene. He doesn't want to be forced in a situation where he has a conversation. But then on the other hand, he can just shut the conversation down. He can be there and he can just not engage because we see it happen with, like, actually several other people in this.
Ronnie Caram
In this party, in this actual episode, or just say, like, hey, I respect that. You want to have a talk? I'm not ready. Yeah, that's it. You know, Tommy, it's like we're expecting emotional intelligence for Tommy, and him being worried that Reza is going to make a scene is correct because Rez is
Ben Mandelker
like, I guess he's not ready for a conversation.
Ronnie Caram
Like, no, it's not about you getting your scene. Everything's not about you getting your fucking scene, Reza.
Ben Mandelker
But. But also, like, Tommy acting like he's Mother Teresa for dropping off ice. He's like, I've supported so much.
Ronnie Caram
I dropped off the ice.
Ben Mandelker
I picked up Shams. What do you want from me? Yeah, thank you for. Thank you for getting me ice. Thank you for bringing Chance. Can you come inside? She helps set things up. MJ's sitting there sweating while she's trying to look good for this Twilight open and try to be presentable. She's running around like crazy. And you don't. Like, you don't have your person there to help you out. You just have Layla and Reza.
Ronnie Caram
I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
I just think it's. I think it's shitty on his part, regardless if it's a TV show or not.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. He gets in the car to drive away, and she's like, wait, Tommy, I need five minutes. He goes, I've been driving all over town. Sorry, I'm done. And she goes, I need five minutes. And he's like, close the door. So she closes it and he drives off. And I'm, you know, I just sit there waiting for a divorce attorney to arrive because this fucking guy. So she's like, well, so much for the icebreaker. Like, you can't just say hi. Like, I've never had higher stakes. And he's just waiting. He's just, like, walking out for nothing. It's immature and it's disappointing.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So other people are arriving. Vita. Vita shows up. Or Vita's.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Lifeguard. Where's the lifeguard?
Ben Mandelker
Where's the lifeguard? Greg. Greg and Tannin are driving, and Greg's asking if. If Skye's coming. Antonio's like, well, mayor said that she's coming, which I was very surprised to hear. I mean, if I see her, I'm gonna say hi. I mean, I'm not a five year old. I don't know if you know that. I'm not a five year old.
Ronnie Caram
So Vita is asking Tanin if they're still friends, if she's still friends with Sky. And she's like, we're working on that. Well, it's good. You should be friends with people who are good people. I know she's a good person. I saw her dog. Even her dog looked very healthy. Moisturized. Very, very healthy.
Ben Mandelker
You know, Shervin was there. I saw Shervin and I saw some people. I saw Kiki, Monique in the background, and I saw Shervin. They showed literally a.03 second clip of Shervin. But I have, like, a really strong Sherv, Darren, because when it went by, I was like, that was Shervin. And I went. It was like, literally, I was going by frame, by frame. It was one frame of Shervin, and then it kept on going.
Ronnie Caram
Well, I saw Ben Mandelker over there in that party we got invited to. That Twilight open house. Yeah. You were out of town.
Ben Mandelker
You were.
Ronnie Caram
You were somewhere. And I was like, oh, I don't want to go to an open house. A Twilight open house on tv. I always look stupid on tv standing by, standing in the background of those things.
Ben Mandelker
I'll show up and
Ronnie Caram
I just look so much cuter in my head that I decided to keep it that way. But thanks for the invite. Ding. Well, I'll go the next one if there is one.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah.
Ronnie Caram
Jay has committed to never doing carpool again. It makes it in realistic. I'm just kidding.
Ben Mandelker
We could have been. We could have seen Mauricio pop up in real life. Well, Gigi, Layla. Gigi shows up, which, by the Way in another world would have been a more significant moment because she hates her sister so much, she wasn't going to show up because she doesn't want to go see her sister. That's family layoff, bitch. But she shows up, and she says, the reason I'm going to my sister's open house is because if I didn't show up, all hell would break loose. MJ would get offended, my sister would get offended, my dad would get offended, my friends would get offended, the Lab Diamonds would get offended. And then I'd have to just slice all sorts of people up with my knives because I'm violent.
Ronnie Caram
I don't.
Ben Mandelker
Safer, fools.
Ronnie Caram
Girl, you're only going to this open house because you know Sky's going to be there and you control her. So that's. We know. So Reza's like, I go where the
Ben Mandelker
wind takes me with those two.
Ronnie Caram
Because Gigi's like, oh, my God, Dennis is here, everybody. They're like, oh, my God, we have to talk to Dennis again. So Rez is like, hey, bro, what is happening? You know, I just, like, let the wind take me with them because, like, it seems like at this moment, they're cool, but as soon as they get uncool, she's gonna expect me not with this guy anymore.
Ben Mandelker
So then Reza is like, hey, what is that chintzy thing on your chest? Did you go to Claire's Boutique before? She goes, no.
Ronnie Caram
Were you eating Cracker Jacks?
Ben Mandelker
Why do you have one of their toys around your neck? What's up with the Dorito on your chest? This is Valley Girl. It's my new jewelry line that I just started this past week. Which, by the way, that's another reason why this is going to be garbage. Like. Like, how do you just start a new business and a new brand, like, of jewelry within a week and expect it to be good? There's no way. I'm sorry.
Ronnie Caram
You already had the machine. I like that she's getting necklaces before she's even got the diamonds cut. So Mauricio comes, and he's looking around the house. He's just like, yeah, let me look at this closet door up. That's a closet door. I knew it. I knew it.
Ben Mandelker
Hey, are there any hot chicks in this closet?
Ronnie Caram
Nope.
Ben Mandelker
What about in this drawer?
Ronnie Caram
Nope.
Ben Mandelker
All right, well, I guess my work here is done.
Ronnie Caram
Meanwhile, MJ is talking to some guy. He's like, oh, my God, Mercedes, your boobs are huge. She goes, yeah, well, I was thinking of getting a reduction. Oh, hi, Maurice. Yeah, he comes Right up behind her. She's talking about her boob production.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, oh, hi.
Ronnie Caram
Hi. Hi. Okay, let's talk about the house. I noticed there were some doors, and I said, those are closet doors. And then I open them, and they were closet doors. So that was pretty good.
Ben Mandelker
I. I like the color scheme and I like it. It's a little starkish and it's, you know, it's a little dated, but, you know, it's. But you're wearing a nice outfit, so I don't want to rag on it too much. And the house is nice, too, but, you know, it feels a little bit like a little hospital in the hallways. It's just like, no warmth to it, you know? But, you know, as a buyer, though, you should be able to get around that and get to it, so it's all great. I'm like, he hates the house. He doesn't want to troll his own agent on tv. He's like, this is really bad. You're not going to make a million dollars. Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
He's like, you've done no, no work on this house. This house sucks.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
But you can work around that as a seller. You know, you tell them what. What are you gonna do? You know, if you have a medical emergency, boom, at least you're already in a hospital.
Ben Mandelker
You're here already and, like, you did good job. You did a really, really good job. You got a good turnout. I like the mamitas. The signs look good. That dandelion growing by the pool, nice touch. I like that.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, well, I did some door knocking. And he's like, really? That's just a term. People don't really do that.
Ben Mandelker
You don't have to. You really don't have to do that. It's a turn of phrase.
Ronnie Caram
And MJ is like, yeah, and I missed some drop offs and pickups. And he's like, oh, so you just abandoned your child? Or. Well, I don't know. Maybe my advice isn't really translating.
Ben Mandelker
I love doing great job at work, and I love that I'm, you know, in the company of such greatness as Mauricio. And he. He gives me my confidence back to just, like, go crush it. And sky's the limit on my real estate career. I just. I have so many goals now. Yeah, okay, well, that's a nice little monologue you had. But, you know, you're. Let me give you some buzzwords. You're doing the work. It's turning out nicely. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't know. You're crying over spilled milk and. Gotta go. Bye.
Ronnie Caram
Bye. I'm opening a kimo sabi in my basement, so I gotta go make sure the construction's going okay.
Ben Mandelker
I hear they're rebooting Real Housewives of Dallas, so I gotta get a flight down to Texas, so see you later.
Ronnie Caram
This guy and Bombshot are in the car and she's like, oh, how long do we have to say this thing? And he's like, you know, you go, you walk around, you take a look at the house, you come across people, you know, you say, hello. That's the short of it. Someone attacks your wife, you say. Then after you come back in the car and say, I'm sorry, what do you want me to say?
Ben Mandelker
It's actually going to be interesting. I haven't seen anybody for ages. I will wonder if I eat Erawan in front of them, will it taste worse because of their stink?
Ronnie Caram
I don't have a problem with mj, so I'll support her, but I'm not nervous to see anybody. Do I want to see them? No. But am I nervous? No. Can I ask myself more questions?
Ben Mandelker
Sure.
Ronnie Caram
Will I? No. So he's like, get over it, okay? Let's just go. We have to get. Get over it and get through the thing. So he tells us she's going through the lion's den, but he's like, you know, I'm going to have to go into the lion's den with her. And that's okay. I take some kicks, I take some scratches, I take some bites. But that's marriage. It's what we do.
Ben Mandelker
I'm a miserable guy, basically.
Ronnie Caram
Don't ask me to get a bartender, Please, please.
Ben Mandelker
So they show up and everyone's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, Sky's here. Sky's here. Oh, my God, Sky's here. Marisa's like, hey, sky, are you on your own TV show or is this count as a pop up or not? I don't know. She's like, hello, Mauricio. She's like, yeah, that's nice. Oh, yeah. Okay, I'm gonna go now. So MJ's like, Listen, Sky, I've been the person that is like walking into a room where I wasn't welcome. I'm just saying, I just don't want you to feel that way. So maybe you talk to people. No, I don't feel that way because I feel welcomed by you. So I don't look at that way. We were invited. All good. I'm Happy.
Ronnie Caram
And Skye's like, well, I went to lunch with her, and she should. If she was serious about being friends, she should call me. Which is basically also what Tanin says. So they're both being stubborn. And Reza comes over, and meanwhile, I think it's important to point out that the cast is all standing against a wall. They're like, in the. Okay, if you're on this show, stand over against this wall. This is where we're going to shoot the cast. Because they're all just kind of standing there, you know, looking. So Reza's like, okay, I'll go in. So he walks over and he's like, hello, sky, can I talk to you about what happened in Palm Springs? And she's like, oh, God. You guys haven't communicated. No, we haven't, because Adam hit her up and she didn't respond. She's like, usually I do not respond if people are rude to me and disrespect me. He's like, I don't know that you
Ben Mandelker
realize the way you were behaving.
Ronnie Caram
And she's like, no, what did I do?
Ben Mandelker
Well, when I was setting the table, you came by and you were like, if you're going to do it, do it right. Meanwhile, cut to Reza walking around the house being like, mj, if you're going to lose this house, do it right.
Ronnie Caram
Reza trying to make that a huge deal is so funny. She was not even being mean to you. She was out of woods.
Ben Mandelker
I know. I think she was, like, being jokey. Stern, right? And so he's like, when you yell at a bunch of people that live in the Valley that there are no good restaurants in the Valley, the food sucks in the Valley. He's like, taking this whole thing of like, how dare you insult the restaurants in the Valley.
Ronnie Caram
So this guy's like, the Valley business district. What do you call that? The. The Chamber of Commerce or whatever.
Ben Mandelker
Scott's like, okay, Reza, okay. Just going back and digging into that shit. Oh, I can't do this. Digging into the shithole that you created. How could you. There are shitholes in the Valley. How could you talk about the Valley like this?
Ronnie Caram
You know, these people are new to the Valley. When they're not used to people talking shit about the Valley, like, yeah, you'll be fine. So Rez is like, but from your words, that's where this is all coming from. And the way you were talking to people. Stop attacking women in like, go away. Just fucking go away. You're such a little gnat. Yeah, go away. Stop trying to start public fights with people. So awkward.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And Skye's basically like, yeah, I think you're trying to start, babe. And I'm not into it. I'm really. I'm not into it. Your words. She basically like, whatever.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. And MJ's like, but I feel bad now. So then we see the cast standing against the wall, and Adam's like, oh, do you think she's taking accountability? Or as we call it, Tabooli? And Natasha's like. And goes, yeah, I'm gonna say no. No. I'm gonna say no. So then we go back to the conversation. This guy's like, oh, my God. Bumshad. He's being so rude and gross. He's like, oh, you know, there's nothing else to say. What else does he have to say? Huh? Well, I don't have to listen. So now Reza comes back to the other group, and he's like. I was like, can we talk about what happened? And she says, no, I don't want
Ben Mandelker
to talk about the past. I want to make sure that sky knew. Like, listen, we can be cool. And if I'm going to be around you, at least I want to be able to explain to you why we had an interaction that we had. But she was like, whatever, I don't like this. And then she literally walked away. Adam, what are you doing to that wall? Sorry. Practicing the tantric yoga. Is this awkward? Stop it.
Ronnie Caram
Also, Reza, that's not what you did. You didn't go over there and say, hey, I hope we can be cool. You went over there and started another confrontation. This guy.
Ben Mandelker
So he's like, zero accountability. Double down, triple down. What a waste of time.
Ronnie Caram
So Adam's like, well, I have a bone to pick with her. And then he acts like he's walking off, but it's Adam.
Ben Mandelker
No, no, Adam, no, stop. I was kidding, guys. I wasn't really gonna do anything. Don't worry.
Ronnie Caram
We're safe.
Ben Mandelker
So now Gigi is handing out her jewelry. She's like, everyone, here comes Valley girl jewelry. And they're all handing it out. And then Dennis. Dennis is offers one to sky. And Gigi's like, like, what if she throws it down? I might have to get angry. I might have to use these hands to strangle a. Because I'm violent.
Ronnie Caram
I'm gonna start us. I'm gonna surprise her with a Valley girl charm necklace. V for Valley. Because she loves the Valley so much. I kind of thrive off this. I mean, I thought it was so great. While you're starting a whole Business just to troll someone who doesn't even like you. You're so pathetic.
Ben Mandelker
Or careful.
Ronnie Caram
Like, this is so sad.
Ben Mandelker
So they're all, like, getting. They're looking at their necklaces. They're being nice about it. You know, Natasha's like, oh, she did this out of spite. Well, good for her. And Reza. Jax is like, it's. It's a bit childish. It's very childish. But you know what? That's Gigi. Haha. And so Vita. Vita walks up and looks at and she's like, oh, it's V for Vita.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, you know this is not real. You know, this color is gold, of course, but this is not real. And they're like, no,
Ben Mandelker
she knows I
Ronnie Caram
like that they're trying to make sky the big villain, but Vita's the one
Ben Mandelker
who will really just say it.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, who brought this junk?
Ben Mandelker
I know. So. So the MJ is, like, reading it. Sky's looking, just not saying anything. And so she hands it. She hands it over to Bombshell, and she's like, put these somewhere away from me, as far away from Erawan as possible.
Ronnie Caram
I don't want my neck to turn green.
Ben Mandelker
It's so cool that you took, like, a negative connotation, Gigi, and you turned it into something really good. That's amazing. If Reza weren't mad at Sky, Reza would be ragging on this jewelry so hard, on camera. Like, she took, like, basically scrapyard metal and put a diamond on it. Like, what is this?
Ronnie Caram
And what good did she turn it into? Because that website looks fake as and you can't buy diamonds off of it. So what are you guys talking about? She's like, well, when I saw Disrespect to the Valley, oh, I just started boiling inside. I just thought it's a perfect time to make it. Also, a V has two very sharp points on it. Two ways to stab people.
Ben Mandelker
I'm gonna stab him, and I'm gonna drive off on my Mercedes because I'm a punk. So then sky is like, viva Valley. Viva Valley. It's like, obviously, like, they're fake diamonds. I mean, do you. Do I look like someone who will wear this on my necklace? That's from Sex Toys. Now you're doing jewelry. Like, she is so pathetic.
Ronnie Caram
She does her thing. I don't care what anybody says. I love Sky. She's my favorite person. She's like, wow. Oh, V for the Valley. Oh, yes. You're making fake diamonds. Of course. Like, you're making my points. Like you said Earlier. She's just making your point.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she's great. So sky basically tells mj, I'm not ever going to change myself or go out of my way. People, they know me for years. They know who I am. I trade people with equal, equality and
Ronnie Caram
respect, and they bring the bag to my car. I say, thank you.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, that's pretty much it. MJ's like, but now, okay, but you're like, really not okay with your best friend right now. You got to deal with that. She's like, no. It's like, okay, well, that's not okay. And Bombshell's like, mj, you need to give it time. You need to let them figure it out on their own. See, look, supportive husband. I did it. I did it.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. This is very reminiscent of the original Valley, when they all started shooting and Brittany and Jax would split up at the parties and try and get everybody fighting with each other. And, like, Brittany would literally be like, no. Remember, the reason you're mad at her is because she disrespected you. You need to go out there and
Ben Mandelker
tell her you're not happy about him. Go.
Ronnie Caram
That's exactly what MJ and Reza are doing. They're like, okay, come on, guys, we need to fight. We're on a TV show.
Ben Mandelker
So sky is. You know, sky and Tanin are sort of, like, looking at each other from across the party. And Skye's like, tanin thinks that it's like, you know, this is time for me to initiate, too. But, like, you need to know the situation when you stay in that corner and interact with them. That's not my problem, sweetheart. So MJ's saying, well, you offended your best friend. What did I do wrong for her? My dog is my child. I moisturized my child. I learned from Rachel Zoe.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, you made a comment about the discount of jewelry, and it was just a wrong vibe. She was, oh, so I should apologize for this? She's like, if you love somebody, you can take ownership. And she's like, get out of here. I piss on love
Ben Mandelker
because you piss on love. Yes. Miss her? No. That's what you want to hear? No.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, but she says, your family, and who are you gonna have Thanksgiving with? She goes, I'm not desperate, honey. I have my own family. I have my own husband. I have my own children. I have my own Erwan for turkey. Stop it.
Ben Mandelker
MJ says if you would rather be right about everything than get your friend back. That's unfortunate. Thank God I don't have that Kind of drama with my friends right now because it's just so petty. I'm like, but you do with your husband. I had to say, so, mj, you.
Ronnie Caram
You broke up with your friends? The last time we saw you guys, you guys wouldn't speak to each other either. The only reason you started talking again was to get another TV show. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
So it's talking over by the wall. She's like, guys, I mean, if I see Sky, I'll say hi. It's not a problem. I'm not like a five year old, right, guys? Greg's like, wait, you haven't said hi? She's like, well, I haven't seen her yet. And Amir goes, but she's like, if I say hi, I'll say, hi, guys. So, like, Tiny's pretty cool, huh? And she's like, wait, wait, hold up, hold up. Amir, go get a drink over there. And then Adam goes, go get a vasectomy. Ha. Such a bad boy tonight.
Ronnie Caram
So Tanin's like, well, you know, when you walk into an event, usually you go up to everybody and say hi, like Bombshot did. But she didn't do that, so why should I say hi to her? Oh, my God, are you fucking five? You're all five years old. Just stop. So she finally does. She goes to the bar, and that's where sky is. And so she's like, how are you? And she's like, oh, it is exhausting. I'm ready to go home. She goes, yeah, me too. I've been ready to go since I got here. I mean, did you see the cracks in the ceiling?
Ben Mandelker
So you look tiny. Are you just not eating? And Sky's like, no, I eat. It's called Erawan. How many times I do say it.
Ronnie Caram
And then it's just like a real awkward moment where Tanning's like, oh, really? I look thin? Well, maybe it's because my father is dying, but does she ask me like, you know that that's coming in. You know that that's coming soon.
Ben Mandelker
So Vita comes by and say goodbye. They're selling fake jewelry over there. Antonine's like, okay, well, I'm gonna see you at my event, right, Vita? She's like, oh, yes, yes, yes, of course. I can't wait to tear it apart.
Ronnie Caram
Yes. But I'd also like to thank you for coming to my event. And I would like to thank you, sky, for coming to. To the event. Vida, you might see from the cheap necklace. But I would like to say thank you for being more of a spitting image Than me, than MDA could ever be.
Ben Mandelker
I know, right?
Ronnie Caram
You are my daughter.
Ben Mandelker
So sky is like, I'm gonna go.
Ronnie Caram
Bye.
Ben Mandelker
So sky goes to say bye to mj, and she's like, my kids are at home. Anthony's like, you know what? I went. I said, hi, because I'm not five years old, and the ego and the pride is above my friendship. This is so embarrassing.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. So MJ tells Tanin about the conversation they had. And she's like. And I said, what about Thanksgiving? What about family? And she says, I have no family. I have. Have no. She says, I have no. I already have so much family. And I was like, can't you just say you're sorry? And she said, no, I'm not sorry. And then I said, then why don't you guys just move forward? And she said, no. I was like, you're really helping things, mj. I'm just like, all I want to
Ben Mandelker
do is help and to need. Like, look, I just put her in this little weird box. She's my sister. And to be honest with you, I think I overdid a little bit with how much, you know, Skyscra jewelry I have or how much support I have. And MJ's like, hey, you put her on a pedestal. And Tanine says, you know, giving no credit to any of the time we spend, the trips, the family gatherings. These are all signs and red flags of a terrible friendship. And then we see a flashback of the serum going on the dog.
Ronnie Caram
Well, you know, they've really made that one argument about not liking the Valley last. Gotta hand it to him.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So basically, t's like, you know what? Now I really want nothing to do with her. It's just disgusting at this point.
Ronnie Caram
And that's it. That brings us to the end of the vow and the week. Everybody go grab tickets for the Golden Crappies on February 27th over at Watch what crappens.com, we'll talk to you next time.
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
We love you guys.
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: February 20, 2026
Ben and Ronnie dive into The Valley, Persian Style, Season 1, Episode 8 (“Twilight Saga”), recapping the latest Bravo antics with their signature blend of praise and mockery. The discussion covers everything from humiliating public TV moments to the absurdity of Botox emergencies, fake jewelry launches, fraught sibling dynamics, and the ongoing saga of MJ and Tommy’s parental handoffs. If you love Bravo — or love making fun of Bravo — this episode is for you.
On Door-Knocking:
Tommy: “You want to sell your house in this neighborhood? I get a piece.” (06:50)
On Botox Emergencies:
Ronnie: “Botox literally takes five minutes. They're acting like, 'Oh my God, what are we going to do?'” (31:20)
On LA Parenting:
Ben: "My kid's gonna get on the damn bus." (18:36, Ben pretending to be Ronnie)
On Fake Jewelry Launches:
Vita: "You know this is not real. You know this color is gold, of course, but this is not real." (61:33)
Gigi’s Threats:
Gigi: “If you’re smiling at me, I’ll punch that smile right off your face ... and if you’re frowning at me, I’ll stab that frown right off of your face.” (27:13)
Reza’s Real Estate Shade:
Reza: “Are you going to fix those ceilings? It’s like Sky’s hairline.” (45:00)
Gem from Sky:
Sky: “Do I look like someone who will wear this on my necklace? That's from sex toys. Now you're doing jewelry? Like, she is so pathetic.” (63:11)
| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------|-------------| | Miami Recording & Technical Issues | 01:16–02:43 | | Ben’s Airplane Tantric Yoga Shame | 03:30 | | Mauricio Ubiquity Rant | 05:41 | | MJ Door-Knocking Scenes | 04:12–07:09 | | Skin Care Photo Shoot & Psychic Gag | 08:08–10:51 | | Sky’s Family Scene/Manipulation | 13:10–13:57 | | Aura Photography at Crystal Store | 14:05–16:35 | | School Buses & Parenting in LA | 17:33–18:48 | | Valley Girl Diamonds Business Launch | 20:15–23:13 | | MJ’s Botox/Motherhood Meltdown | 29:50–35:35 | | Tommy Dodges Open House Help | 46:15–48:11 | | Open House: Reza’s Snarky Tour | 44:17–45:43 | | “V” Jewelry Passive Aggression | 61:09–62:07 | | Sky vs. Reza Confrontation | 57:32–58:55 | | Sky–Tanine: Stubborn Stand-off | 63:11–65:46 |
This episode is a parade of bizarre LA-isms — door-to-door real estate, Botox emergencies, spiritual vanity projects, and Bravo-fueled family feuds. Ben and Ronnie cut through the melodrama with biting, irreverent humor, exposing both the absurdity and the relatability of Bravo life. Whether you live for the Valley, or laugh at its stereotypes, this is recap and roast at its best.
Notable Quote to Summarize the Episode:
Ben: “I just think it's shitty on his [Tommy’s] part, regardless if it's a TV show or not.” (48:07)
Ronnie: “If you can't fart in someone's face first thing in the morning and still got ‘em loving you, what are you even doing?” (07:09)