#3228 RHOP S10E19 Reunion 2: Bizarre Love Triangle (Part 1)

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #3228: RHOP S10E19 Reunion 2 – "Bizarre Love Triangle (Part 1)"

Release Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie deliver their hilarious, biting, and affectionate recap of the second part of the Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 Reunion. The episode expertly dissects the drama, shade, and bizarre love triangles among the RHOP cast, with particularly sharp commentary on Ashley’s season, Wendy’s feuds, and the increasingly iconic saga of Kiarna’s picture frame “engagement.” Expect running jokes, Bravo-bashing, and pop culture sidebars—delivered in the duo’s signature snarky style.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ashley vs. Wendy: Accomplishments and Apologies

• Tension Restart: The episode picks up with Ashley accusing Wendy of “vilifying” her accomplishments. Wendy fires back:

  • Wendy: “That’s because you don’t have any accomplishments.” [03:43]
  • The conversation devolves into a spat about credit cards and financial rumors, with the hosts gleefully mocking the unfolding pettiness.
    • Ben on the on-screen headline: “Prosecutors reveal Potomac star Wendy Ooo has very little money and 67 credit cards after fraud arrests.” [04:02]
    • Ronnie riffs: “Someone has to help the poor people of Citibank!” [04:38]

• Ashley’s “Apology”:

  • Andy Cohen asks Wendy if she accepts Ashley’s apology, prompting Ben and Ronnie to note there never was a real apology.
  • Wendy: “It’s not that I don’t accept. It’s that I feel like Ashley’s full of shit.” [05:14]
  • The “apology” at BravoCon is dissected, with Wendy exposing Ashley’s contradictory private messages and remarks.

2. BravoCon Receipts & Group Dynamics

• A revealing text exchange is discussed, exposing Ashley’s true feelings:
  • Stacy (reading Ashley’s texts): “I legit had nightmares last night. Are you upset?”
    • Ashley: “Yes and no. Personally, for her beautiful children, but she has been very condescending to many of us.” [06:14]
  • Ronnie: “Sorry, but Ashley’s a wuss about it and feels like she has to go with the flow...” [06:20]

3. Sensitivity and Cancel Culture Callout

• The discussion shifts to whether the group has gotten “softer” compared to past seasons.

  • Ashley: “...need to adapt... to various levels of sensitivity or boundaries...” [10:05]
  • Ronnie, interpreting the shade: “She’s coming with the argument of, like, oh, everyone’s trying to cancel everybody now. You can’t say anything these days.” [10:35]

• Angel Stands Firm: Angel objects to being singled out for sensitivity, raising issues of identity:

  • Angel: “I’m a Black woman, and Black women aren’t monolith. I get to feel how I want to, and that’s the end of it.” [13:57]
  • Ronnie observes, “It’s like, you can’t go into a football game and be mad that someone tackles you.” [14:06]

4. Ashley’s Storylines: Divorce, Dating, and the Darby Settlement

• Mauricio Montage & Divorce Package:

  • Hosts mock Bravo’s insistence on including Mauricio cameos and Ashley’s package placement:
    • Ronnie: “The great Mauricio blessing... He’s on every fucking show. Get him off the TV!” [16:14]
  • Debates over Ashley’s rumored multi-million dollar divorce settlement.
    • Ben: “She did not get $20 million. She got a cool $750,000.” [16:51]
    • Ronnie: “If this was Price Is Right, I’d say a cool round million.” [17:08]

• Ashley’s Love Life: Josh & Sharice’s Son

  • Andy questions Ashley about her breakup with Josh and reuniting on camera. The cast calls her out for making up breakup/makeup timelines for storylines.
  • Ronnie: “Ashley is a faker and doing another fake storyline by being like, oh, have to break up with you.” [19:56]
  • Discussion about Ashley kissing Sharice’s 27-year-old son, with ample mockery and debate about “girl code.”

5. Ashley: Politician Romance Rumors and Sister’s Difficult Family Story

• Rumors circulate about Ashley dating a politician, with Ben and Ronnie riffing about 80s movie scenarios and the current state of reality stars in politics.
  • Ronnie: “Politicians are these... tacky clowns at this point.” [27:04]
• A brief, surprisingly supportive glance at Ashley’s sister and family situation.

6. Kiérna’s Picture Frame Proposal Saga

• Extended shade about Kiérna’s infamous jeweler-bought picture frame “engagement” gift.
  • Ben: “It’s like opening up a box from Tiffany’s, and inside is, like, a stapler. It’s like, that’s not cool.” [39:25]
  • Ronnie: “Just go away. Get away from Greg. That man does not want to marry you, you should not have to beg somebody to marry.” [39:57]
• Dissection of her “my things, my condo, my man” catchphrase and its unintentional hilarity.

7. Friendship Feud: Kiérna vs. Wendy & Stacy

• Kiérna and Wendy bicker about a “wave” at an event and whether a hug occurred, leading to a running joke about photographic evidence.
  • Ben: “Her argument is that it was a small room, so therefore, if you’re giving a presentation, you have to wave? Still one of the most ridiculous... foundations of an argument.” [45:03]
• Stacy and Kiérna clash over the “aggressive” label and its racial implications, with Ronnie noting this echoes previous RHOP seasons and warning of “veering into respectability politics.” [46:32]

8. Jazzy Joins; Final Banter

• “Jazzy” joins the reunion, arriving with three assistants for her intricate dress.
• The cast briefly touches on Kierna and Jazzy’s status:
  • Jazzy: “The two of us stand in front of each other and then we say nothing to each other whenever we see each other.” [49:45]
• Ben and Ronnie tease the upcoming “Part 2” recap.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Wendy (to Ashley): “That’s because you don’t have any accomplishments.” [03:43]
• Ben (on gossip headline): “Prosecutors reveal Potomac star Wendy Ooo has very little money and 67 credit cards after fraud arrests.” [04:02]
• Ronnie: “Someone has to help the poor people of Citibank! Come on, Ashley.” [04:38]
• Wendy (on Ashley’s apology): “It’s not that I don’t accept. It’s that I feel like Ashley’s full of shit.” [05:14]
• Ashley (about Josh): “If you want me to go out a second time, it has to be on camera so that way America can see me humiliate you.” [19:47]
• Host riff (on politician romance): “The credits are all... Everybody just leaves. She just wins because there’s no one there to vote. It automatically passes.” [28:50]
• Ronnie (on picture frame ‘ring’): “It’s like opening up a box from Tiffany’s, and inside is like a stapler. It’s like, that’s not cool.” [39:25]
• Kierna: “I actually love picture frames. I don’t know why.” [33:30]
• Ronnie (on saying goodbye to Kierna): “I think it might be time to just, you know, say bye.” [40:45]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Ashley vs. Wendy feud reignites: 03:38–05:28
• Fake apology receipts/BravoCon texts: 05:28–07:04
• Group sensitivity & “cancel culture”: 10:05–14:06
• Angel addresses “monolith” comments: 13:36–14:06
• Ashley’s divorce speculation: 16:31–17:23
• Ashley/Josh breakup drama: 18:13–19:56
• Sharice’s son/Kissing controversy: 20:07–24:10
• Ashley politician rumors & family segment: 26:31–27:04
• Kierna’s picture frame saga: 32:40–39:57
• Kiérna vs. Wendy & Stacy “aggressive” debate: 44:03–47:15
• Jazzy’s extravagant entrance: 49:02–49:45

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains Ben and Ronnie’s trademark blend of campy mockery, Bravo superfan passion, and biting pop-culture critique. They lovingly ridicule the Housewives’ foibles while regularly breaking the fourth wall to remind listeners of the reality TV artifice at play. Lots of running jokes (Mauricio-mania, “picture frame” as symbol of disappointment, “Queen of the Second Episode Package”) keep the energy high.

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Final Thoughts

Part 1 of this RHOP reunion recap skewers the cast’s ongoing feuds, exposes fake storylines, and amplifies every shade thrown with infectious enthusiasm. Whether you love or love-to-hate this crop of Housewives, Ben and Ronnie’s breakdown is a must for Bravo fans.

[Tune in to the next episode for Part 2 of this raucous reunion recap!]

Transcript

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[Ronnie Caram]

Well, hello. How's it going, buddy?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's going well. Thanks to everyone who came to our show in Miami over the weekend. We had an amazing time. It was super fun. Really appreciate you showing up on a. On a hot Saturday afternoon. But we were really grateful. We had a lot of laughs and we are also going to be grateful to everyone who shows up this Friday at the Golden Crappies. Can't believe it's less than a week away. Just a few days away. It's gonna be a big one. So fun. There may be a few tickets left if you go to watch a crappins.com or Instagram and check out the link in our bio, there are ticket links there. And it's also going to be broadcast virtually with Kiswee. So wherever you are in the world for up to two weeks after the show, you can watch. So the links for that are in the same place as ticketing links, so check that out. And of course on Patreon we have ad free, an ad free version of Crappens A brand new newsletter just dropped over the weekend that's free for everyone. You don't even have to be a Patreon member, etc. We have crappies on demand. We can watch the video bonus episodes like the Traitors. And also speaking of Patreon, Patreon is doing a really cool pre party for the Crappies. So if you're coming to the Crappies and you are a Patreon member, you have to be a Patreon member. You can rsvp. Just go to our Patreon. The RSVP link is right there. It's pinned to the top. And also, don't forget to vote. There's only like three days left. Voting is going to end at the end of Wednesday. So we have a lot of votes in and some people are like, why wasn't this one nominated while there was around 1 of voting? And these were the top things. So make your voice heard, okay? It's going to be a good one. So that's really all the news. And the voting is also at watch or crappens.com so with that all that out of the way, we can now return our attention to the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion part two. What say you, Ronnie?

[Ronnie Caram]

Good one. Fun times. I don't vilify my accomplishments, Ashley, you dummy. So you don't have any. That's where we start off. Ashley saying to Wendy, well, I don't vilify my accomplishments. Oh, Ashley. Oh my God. Wendy's like, that's because you don't have any accomplishments.

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, well, I have one. Social Security. I know that's an accomplishment.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wendy's like, I do two. I have one. I do two. She goes, okay, well your says successful seven. Okay, 67 otherwise. And she starts doing 67. And Wendy's like, in what document does it say I have others? And then we see a on screen, we see a headline that says, prosecutors reveal Pomic star Wendy Oo has very little money and 67 credit cards after fraud arrests.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, but you know, those aren't all Social Security numbers. Just, just while we're nitpicking here supporting

[Ben Mandelker]

the economy, people have to work at these various cards.

[Ronnie Caram]

Discover Master cards. Yeah, someone has to help the poor people of Citibank. Come on, Ashley.

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, six, seven, six, seven, man.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm like, okay, are we talking about the age of your next husband? Quiet over there, Ashley.

[Ben Mandelker]

Seriously.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Wendy's like, well, it never said six, seven. It never said six, seven.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, really? Radar online says It.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Giselle's like, not six, seven. Nah. So Wendy's like, well, if you had accomplishments, you would. You would speak of them.

[Andy Cohen]

And Andy's like, well, I'm assuming that you don't accept Ashley's apology.

[Ronnie Caram]

Is this an apology? Andy, why are we acting like Ashley's sitting here apologizing?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know I didn't. I don't seem to remember hearing any apology in any of this. Wendy's like, well, it's not that I don't accept. It's that I feel like Ashley's full of shit. And doubly, I feel like Ashley set up the Bravocon, and she said, da, da, da. And we go to Bravocon, And Ashley

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

says, well, I realized that this is in no way a lighthearted situation for Wendy. So I'm like, really sorry for how it came to be, for how I came for Wendy, and I really mean it.

[Ben Mandelker]

But then Wendy's like, you lied because you said that at BravoCon, and now you're coming for me again.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Stacy's like, well, you know, you wouldn't even look at her and apologize to

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

her at Bravo Con.

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, well, that was. You know, that was. It's not a different story than today. It's the same thing.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Wendy's like, because what you don't know is that I know that you texted Stacey, and when Stacey was asking you if you feel bad Wendy's locked up, you sat there and you said, no, I don't feel any way. She deserves it. And then we see the text of this text exchange. We see a screenshot of this text, and Stacy is saying, I legit had nightmares last night. Are you upset?

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, yes and no. Personally, for her beautiful children, but she has been very condescending to many of

[Ronnie Caram]

us, which I think is fair. I wish Ashley just stood in her truth and was like, well, that's true. I mean, you act all holier than thou for seasons at a time. And now I'm supposed to cry when you get in trouble. Sorry, but Ashley's a wuss about it and feels like she has to go with the flow of everybody, you know, feeling sorry for her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Wendy's like, so you can lie if you want to, but the receipt says something different. And Ashley's like, well, first of all,

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

in the moment when you made the joke, it was like, when, you know, your devilish grin, mugshot came out. And that's what I thought, number one. It was just like.

[Ben Mandelker]

She was like, look, the joke was There. I had to go for it. I'm sorry. And Stacey says, well, I texted you, Ashley, and I said I could not sleep because I was so worried about Wendy.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And you were like, well, I mean,

[Ben Mandelker]

she gets what she deserves. That's what she said. That's what. That's what Ashley said.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Ashley's like, well, I'm not losing sleep over Wendy doing something that she potentially did.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. It's like, what, are we all going to not be able to sleep after we watch Cops? I mean.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know, we're. By the way, on the plane home yesterday, a guy was watching police chase videos the whole way in front of me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Whoa. That's so bizarre.

[Ronnie Caram]

The woman next to me, like, six hours. It was like six hours of the sky. We're just watching the police chase people down.

[Ben Mandelker]

The woman next to me was watching Tell Me Lies the entire time and also just blowing her nose just like. It was like snot and Tell me Not Lies the entire time. She's very nice, but, like, wow, the amount of fluids coming out of her. So I was like, tell me lies. How about tell me about Kleenexes. Am I right? I know.

[Ronnie Caram]

I was gonna say, tell me Kleenex. Here's one, sucker. Use it. Use it.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, very attractive cast on that show. I think I may have to watch it now. I was like, they're just so pretty. I need to get involved.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know. Teenagers. I'm just not into those shows. I feel like they're creepy. You know, I was watching. I watched the first episode of that one on hbo.

[Ben Mandelker]

Euphoria.

[Ronnie Caram]

What's it called? Yeah, Euphoria. And I was like, I'm not watching this. I feel perverted watching it. They all look five, you know? So anyway, back to this. Ashley is like, well, I'm sorry, your children. And she's like, my kids don't know your ass.

[Andy Cohen]

They don't want anything from you. And she's like, well, but I'm sure they saw what I said. I mean, of course your kids saw me on BravoCon.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, come on. Everybody knows my work at BravoCon. Wendy's like, no, my kids don't care. Okay, well, then if your kids don't care, then why are we crying about it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Right?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, Not Wendy personally, but, I mean, the show being like, oh, how could you? She has children. Okay, if your kids don't care, then they don't care. Let's move on.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

All right, well, I want to move on. I'm glad you said that.

[Ben Mandelker]

And now she's like, can I say something, Andy? I just. I need to do a little circle back real quick. Okay. Which is also something I did with Sharice's son. Anyway, a lot of people in this group, they call me messy, you know, that I'm like, starting all this. And what I realized is that the dynamic of this group is just different. And Karen was like, oh, what do

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

you think has changed since so much in the group of women now?

[Ben Mandelker]

And as she goes, well, you know, previously Karen would go tit for tat with me. And Wendy then says, yeah, we had thickest skin back in the day. We had very thick skin. I was like, wendy, do you have a thick skin? I'm not sure about that.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wendy's never been very thick skinned. And I like that. We're in a segment about Wendy not having thick skin about a joke, and she's like, oh, yeah, back in the day, it was better. The OGs have, like, we all had thick skin back in the original version.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Then we see, like a montage of Karen and Ashley and Giselle being pretty awful to each other. You know, the famous sing sing quote. And. And then Ashley comes back and it's

[Ronnie Caram]

specifically jail jokes, which I really like that Potomac did. They were like, oh, yeah, get the one where you're like, oh, really? Well, your husband better watch out because he's gonna be going to the clink, clink, Ashley.

[Andy Cohen]

Clink, clink, clink, clink, Ashley.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then the, you know, like, every jail comment they've ever made, the sing sing in your hot box.

[Ben Mandelker]

And yeah, just like, makes you realize they have a lot of jokes about jail. And so then Ashley is like, you know, and I can acknowledge that perhaps I need to adapt, you know, more to maybe the various levels of sensitivity or boundaries with the other ladies of this group. She's in a way saying, like, look, I know we're fighting, but, like, let's remind the newbies that they're the problem here. They're too sensitive. Like, we can't. We can't get on. We can't ruffle each other's feathers because it's the newbies who are the sensitive ones.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, she's coming with the argument of,

[Andy Cohen]

like, oh, everyone's trying to cancel everybody now.

[Ronnie Caram]

You can't say anything these days.

[Ben Mandelker]

Days. Yeah, she's doing cancel culture on the reunion. It's like, well, I just have to be, you know, mindful that other people are more sensitive. And then she looks directly at Kieran and Angel,

[Ronnie Caram]

and I mean, look, Ashley, you know, but you still would have to argue about that stuff at the reunion. It's not like you could say those stuff and not get called out for it. But I think that she's correct in the way that angel is like just too much of a wuss. She can't take it, you know, And I don't know if I'd call her a wuss. I would just say that she. Well, yeah, she can't take it. She. It's just not the right environment for her, you know. Yeah, it's time for a commercial.

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[Ben Mandelker]

so Giselle's like, yes, like, the gin check of it all and the catfish of it all and the eviction of it all. It just would have been something that would roll off the back of your back. And Karen's like, and the honesty of it all. And Giselle's like, yeah, it just would have rolled off. It wouldn't have been a big deal. So then angel goes, well, you know what? I get to be me. I'm a black woman, and black women aren't monolith. And I get to feel how I want to, and that's the end of it. Because there are other examples you can use, and you don't have to pinpoint me. Like, no, you're the sensitive one, Angel.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, get with the. You are the sensitive one. And I don't think she's saying black women are a monolith. I think she's saying Real Housewives need. It's like, you can't go into a football game and be mad that someone tackles you. I think that they're trying to say, like, it's football. There's no crying in baseball, you know, as Tom Hanks once famously said. And Giselle's like, well, those are examples from the season, though. I'm like, yeah, and they're all one. I think that you were kind of instigating. I mean, the chin check. She didn't instigate, but she definitely pushed it forward a lot, you know? But the catfish and the eviction was Giselle. Giselle's like, what? You can't come after me for being mean. It's what I do.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Wah.

[Ronnie Caram]

You get mad at the Dunkin Donuts man for bringing in donuts. No.

[Ad Host]

Wah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Andy is like, okay, well, is

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

there anything you would do differently if given the chance, Angel?

[Ben Mandelker]

And she says, well, I would have shown my funner, more bubbly side. And I regret that if that didn't happen. But don't worry. You'll get to know me

[Ronnie Caram]

once you get to know me. Where's that side, Angel?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Where's the bin?

[Ronnie Caram]

Bring it out right now. Let's.

[Andy Cohen]

Let's get it a cake.

[Ronnie Caram]

Bring it out. We'll have a birthday for it. Where is it, Angel?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's been dangling that carrot all season long. You'll get to know me.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

You'll see.

[Ben Mandelker]

I could be fun. But right now, I'm gonna cry.

[Andy Cohen]

All right, well, we'd love to see that side at some point.

[Ronnie Caram]

Maybe we'll see it on Instagram, possibly

[Andy Cohen]

with whiskers and on a hook, because it's a catfish. All right, well, I want to move on. After all, we're finally who? We're finally getting divorced. Ashley Darby entered her first annual season, second bloom, whatever that means. But one thing is for sure. This shady flower really can't sing on key. Why do you keep using microphones?

[Ronnie Caram]

Ashley, come on.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Stop it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And because It's Bravo in 2026, they make sure that this montage, of course, includes. Hey, Mauricio. Hey, ladies. Hi, Giselle. How are you, Giselle?

[Ronnie Caram]

The great Mauricio blessing of 2026. He's on every fucking show. Get him off the TV. Hey, everybody, it's me, Mauricio. Don't forget to fix the CR in your ceilings. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's really just like. It's too much.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Well, Ashley, Mauricio from the next TV show that's going to air right after this says, hey, did you really get $20 million from Michael Darby? Was it really worth it as she's

[Ronnie Caram]

like $20 million from Michael Darby? Does anybody believe that?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, absolutely not.

[Ronnie Caram]

No way.

[Ben Mandelker]

She says. One thing I've learned on this platform is I would never, ever, ever tell anybody how much money I have or have gotten from my marriage. Which means that she did not get $20 million. She got a cool $750,000. I'm just going to say it right now.

[Ronnie Caram]

That's your guess?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. If this was prices, right? And I was guessing, I would say she probably got, like, a cool round a million. But that includes, like, the purchase of her home and stuff like that. And then she'll be on, like, some kind of payment with the kids, you know, child support and stuff like that. But $20 million?

[Ben Mandelker]

No. No. There's no way. No way. I don't see anything. I was.

[Ronnie Caram]

What is priceless, though, is seeing that Ashley got a second episode package. Because the second episode is, like, always the most boring episode on the Housewives. And when you're relegated to the second episode, that's really sad. And that's when Ashley's package is so. I love that for her because I think that Ashley was being really mean this season. Meaner than usual. I didn't like it. You know, it wasn't. It was a subtle difference, I think, in the Ashley that we've known from the past. But it was definitely meaner. And I think she was trying to get, you know, she was definitely going for first or third episode energy, and she didn't get it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she didn't. She got stuck in the. She got stuck in the quagmire. Known as episode two of Reunions. So Andy's like, well, how's go parenting going?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And she's like, very good. I'm really talking about your boyfriend Josh. How is it going co parenting him? That's pretty good too.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Pretty cool. Okay, so I feel like that answer always changes though, right? Yeah, it does. But like it's been consistently really good. Okay, and what about it? What about Josh? Where are you two these days? Let me guess, at a lid store at the mall, huh?

[Andy Cohen]

Well, we hang out quite a bit

[Ronnie Caram]

and Stacy is just horrified. She's like, oh, wait a minute, you're dating Josh?

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, I am.

[Ronnie Caram]

But you broke up with this man on camera.

[Andy Cohen]

Camera. You humiliated poor Josh.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

I did not hurt him. I humiliated my myself first by ditty him. Okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then when the cameras went down,

[Andy Cohen]

she's like, I told him my real feelings. Okay. After the cameras went down.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, so now everything's good? That's what you did. Who else heard it? Ashley.

[Andy Cohen]

Who else heard it? And she says, well, I broke up the night before.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Angel's like, I heard it now. She says when we sat in the car, I broke up with Josh two nights before and he asked me to get back together the next day. And so then we filmed the scene. So you broke up with him two nights before he called you to get back together. So you called him, you brought him on camera and then you dumped him again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I don't, I don't know if I believe that. And Angel's like, well, that was all when cameras were down and actually goes,

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

my feelings, my, my feelings were still the same. And Josh wanted to go out and I said, it has to be on camera. That's how the situation went. And it has to be on camera.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, she's like, if you want me to go out a second time, it has to be on camera so that way America can see me humiliate you. It doesn't really make sense to me.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, yeah, for anyone confused about what the fuck Ashley's talking about, I think they're just pointing out that Ashley is a faker and doing another fake storyline

[Andy Cohen]

by being like, oh, have to break up with you.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she never broke up with him. Or when she said I broke up with Josh and then went on Love Hotel and clearly never broke up with Josh. I think she's just being called out for being a liar. So Andy asks her about the kiss with Charisse's 27 year old son Jackson. 27 years old is so innocent.

[Andy Cohen]

How could you? How could you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And Andy's like, she spoke about publicly instead of made it feel uncomfortable. Is there anything you want to say about it?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, in the moment that I told Therese, you know, that I told Therese, I was ready to deal with it. Like, you know, if she was upset, I was going to apologize. But then she did nothing. She, like, laughed it off, and she goes on a press tour, and then she starts saying all the stuff and, like, where was that energy when I was talking to you to your face? You know? And I think.

[Ronnie Caram]

I think that's true.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I mean, I think Charisse should have said something in that moment. I also think it could have been like, Cherise thought it was, like, funny, and then as she thought about it later, was like, wait a second. But, like, of course Theresa is going to, like, try to extend the moment and make a press tour about it and go everywhere. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

Shareese was just trying to get some interviews, you know, because it's Shareese. Like, how often do people call to interview Shareese? Not often. Not often, because you need a real answer to that. I think she was just so excited. And when she saw people mad online, because I remember seeing one comment on some post she made, and they were like, well, Shareese, you should be mad because this is one of your friends dating your son. And that's disgusting. You should be mad. She's like, oh, I never thought of it that way. Now I'm mad. And then she went on this whole press tour about it and, you know, got the attention.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Andy asked them what they all thought about Ashley hooking up with Sharice's son. And Wendy's like, well, I thought it was terrible. I don't think that's right. Because once I see you as a child, no matter how old you are, you're always that child to me. So that's how I look at it.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And he's like, okay, yeah, so let's get back to the sexy stuff. Did he make the first move? How's his chests? Is he good kisser? Tell me everything.

[Andy Cohen]

Moral side. Did he talk about me? Did he ask about me? Did you show him any text between us? Do you have any dick pics?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Give us everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she says, it was only a kiss. And he's like, but. And Wendy says, but you alluded to more. And she's like, I did. And I alluded to more, even with Shareese. Like, look at me being upfront about how I alluded to things.

[Ronnie Caram]

But no, look how honest I am. I'm honest about alluding, I'm honest about

[Ben Mandelker]

suggesting a lie, but not actually lying.

[Ronnie Caram]

Honest allusions by Ashley. So they're like, so did you fuck him or not? And Angel's like, well, why couldn't you give Cerise a heads up about her son before you turn that into a storyline?

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, well, Cerise has told me numerous times that she wants me to date her son, you know, and when I, I tell you numerous times, she says it so many times.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Giselle's like, yes. She calls Ashley her daughter in law.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then he's like, whoa, really?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Sounds like her son has had an attraction to you. I mean, he's 27 years old, going on 28. He's a strong man of good stock, big shoulders and rock hard chest. And gotta imagine what those hands must feel like around your body.

[Ben Mandelker]

Andy, come back to us. And the.

[Andy Cohen]

Andy, do you have a boner?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

I do. Okay, moving on.

[Ronnie Caram]

Stacy's like, well, that doesn't make it right, Andy. Just because he's 27, it's breaking mom code. It's breaking girl code.

[Andy Cohen]

It's breaking qvc.

[Ronnie Caram]

What a stone code. I would never do that. I would never do that, Andy.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Well, just for everyone to know, Jackson and I are 10 years apart. Well. Well, I guess that means that we're probably about like 25 years apart if you think about, and you know, not unheard of for someone to have a silver fox kind of daddy relationship. Andy? Andy, are you still with us?

[Ad Host]

What?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Never mind. What potatoes. They're the best, right? What are we talking about?

[Andy Cohen]

Well, if Sharice has been saying that you would be great together and I want you to be my daughter in law, I mean, that's a crucial piece of information that we've been leaving out, which leads me to believe I still have a chance.

[Ben Mandelker]

Angel goes, well, it could have been a joke what she said. And now she goes, no, no, no,

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

she said it all the time, Andy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Every time. All the time.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

She's always like, you could be my daughter in law. That would be the worst. Or, you better not go near my son because then you'll wind up as my, as my daughter in law. Terrible.

[Andy Cohen]

I mean, when I tell you all the time, she said, especially right after, I mean, I was done with Michael and she's like, oh, now you can get with Jackson, you know. All the time, Andy. All the time.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now we talk about Ashley and the sister who we saw this season and how heartbreaking it was because the dad is an addict. And you know all this stuff. And we're softening up Ashley right now.

[Andy Cohen]

We're like, ashley, it's nice that you

[Ronnie Caram]

don't only lie for storylines, but you also drag your family's traumas in to use the storylines. Good job. And she's like, yeah, well, I don't

[Andy Cohen]

know if he's sober, but how to say this could be better?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

All right, well, on the Colorado trip, you were mad at Giselle for stunting your connection with Mauricio, were you not?

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we have like, hey, Ashley. Nice to meet you. I'm Mauricio. Look, I'm even showing up within the flashbacks of me showing up and my nested Mauricio. She was like, can I just say I was mad at Giselle for that as well. And Giselle's like, why? I was adamant I was not gonna let anyone get with Mauricio.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Giselle. Giselle seemed to be worried about girl code, but you did not care, Ash. It was almost like you saw Mauricio and thought, wow, that's just kind of like an old version of Sharice's son. I'm gonna go for it.

[Andy Cohen]

Well, I do know Kyle, but I want to give Stacy props, because Stacy knows I'm single, and she was trying to make something happen, and I was just going along for the ride. I didn't want anything.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Stacy's like, you wanted it?

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, no, I didn't.

[Ronnie Caram]

Giselle's like, stacy wanted it. Stacy is the one who wanted it. Stacy loves everybody. But Timo.

[Andy Cohen]

Stacy wanted it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wanted this.

[Andy Cohen]

Stacy wanted that.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, no, I wanted it for Ashley. So she would shut the up, basically. And as she's like, yeah, so.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Yeah, whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they're just, like, laughing about how Stacey was, like, all up on Mauricio and everything.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And Andy's like, okay, I want to move on. Word on the street, Ashley, is that you were dating a politician. So is this true? And also, if you really think about it, considering that there's someone from the real world who's currently in. In the White House, it's not crazy for one of our stars to date politician.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you think about it now, it

[Ronnie Caram]

is not really crazy to think of people dating a politician. Do you think?

[Ben Mandelker]

I think these days, it's like, anything goes.

[Ronnie Caram]

Politicians are these, like, you know, above the moral code people. I mean, they're. They're a bunch of tacky clowns at this point.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I mean, Sean Duffy is like, what the. I forget his. The name of his position, but he was on the Real World, and now he's like, you know, what's an Interior? Or whatever? I can't. It's Secretary of Interior. I can't remember. But it's like the reality stars and government are starting to. Are starting to cross pollinate. So it really is not that crazy that, like, someone might date Ashley. But I also feel like Ashley dating, like a congressman, especially like an old congressman, feels like a movie from the 80s, you know, like they meet in some Meet cute thing, and they have this little thing and they like. She rides in the back of his motorcycle around D.C. one of his friends

[Ronnie Caram]

in the Senate's like, I dare you to date that girl. She lets her kids sit on the counter, and that's really dangerous. I dare you. So he makes her think that she loves him. And then she finds out it was all a bet. She's like, really hurt. But meanwhile, Josh has still been in the trunk of her car the whole time.

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, just wait, Josh, I've got

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

something in the work.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then the congressman, to show that he really loves her, gets up and then does like a filibuster for 24 hours to be like, yeah, say I love you for 24 hours straight.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then she realizes that she's been the politician this whole time because she

[Ben Mandelker]

has the idea for, like, the bill that brings together the house at long lasts our fractured government comes together. Because Ashley has, like, a really good idea.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, I. I wanted to speak to you, America Living Me slowly with his song.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, no. The credits are all. Everybody just leaves.

[Ben Mandelker]

They just end the movie on her climactic moments.

[Ronnie Caram]

She just wins because there's no one there to vote. It automatically passes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Great. Love it. I'll watch it. So the rumor is that she's dating a politician. And she says that she was.

[Ad Host]

And.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she says what's impossible about it? And he's like, yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

Because Stacy's like, that is impossible.

[Andy Cohen]

A politician.

[Ronnie Caram]

I love Stacy. Every time they say anything to Ashley, Stacy's just horrified by it.

[Andy Cohen]

She dated a child.

[Ronnie Caram]

She dated a politician. Never Ashley, like, everything they say. Stacy just does this whole scandalized thing to get Ashley back. It's cracking me up.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And he's like, why is it impossible, Stacy? I mean, not with your history,

[Ben Mandelker]

which I don't know really what that means, but it's like, both, like, very insulting, but also so judgy. And Ashley's like, I am.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, I mean, she's a bottle girl who is married to an old man who was accused of assaulting one of the cameramen that she stood up for and tried to. I mean, there's a lot that's just. That's just the 2 second version. So. Right.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Ashley is like, I'm an upstanding, beautiful woman, and you better sit your stank ass breath over there. Stacy goes, well, who literally slept with your friend's son. Really upstanding.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's gonna use

[Ben Mandelker]

burgeoning political career.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, exactly. And your stank ass breath thing is just like. It's so old, Ashley. It didn't work. It never really worked. Keep trying, Ashley. Keep trying. And she's like, yeah, you fucked a child. And she's like, it wasn't a child.

[Andy Cohen]

He was 27 years old, stink breath.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Ashley's like, hush up.

[Andy Cohen]

And I will say. I will say it with a capital U. Capital U. Upstanding citizen.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

All right.

[Andy Cohen]

Capital U for vilify. All right.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

But you're not dating the politician anymore. Who is, Otter the politician or Sharice's son? Can you give me explanations of both? And if you only have time for one, let's just focus on Theresa's son. Thank you very much.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Giselle's like, well, actually, I thought this question was about me, because I'm the one who's dated a politician. Nah. So I was confused. And they all just look at her and they're like, what? And Andy and Wendy at same time go, when were you dating a congressman?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, now I'm telling on myself. And they're like, yeah, what's. Where's this? And Andy's like, so after the season,

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

you dated a congressman after the season?

[Ben Mandelker]

She goes, yes, after the season.

[Ronnie Caram]

Nah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Karen was like, oh, just. Al, you have such an amazing dating life. Why does this not come to the group? Like, you have an amazing dating life. Which was her very friendly way of being like, you're coming after us all season long and you don't even share your.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, of course.

[Andy Cohen]

All right, well, Jackson from five guys wants to know, what do you see yourself doing in the next chapter of your life? Bo's divorce.

[Ronnie Caram]

Now she's like, well, funny that you

[Andy Cohen]

could ask, because I brought a book cover because I'm actually writing a children's book.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, for Christ's sake. My God. Is it about dating?

[Ben Mandelker]

So she holds it up, and they're all very nice to her about it.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's called the Wonder Club. Get the fuck out. It's like a children's book. Hard to write. Write the Book. Then before you come to the reunion promoting it, you have to write one page and spread it out over 30 with pictures in it. Ashley, do some work before you just bring me the COVID of this book.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

All right. Well, Kay, this season we got a closer look at your life, your business, your condo, your man, your things. But you made it clear you were not chasing no ring.

[Andy Cohen]

Watch.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we see what we've all been waiting for, which is the very scintillating and exciting extended montage of Kieran's season on the show.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. You know the scene I wanted to see in the leasing office of that condo? That's the scene I want to see of Kiernis. The rest of it is all lies. So he's like, okay, so the ring is coming. And she's like, yes, yes, it is, Andy. And she reaches behind her on the pillow, she's got a prop, and she pulls it out. And he's like, oh, my God.

[Andy Cohen]

Is the ring of rides. What are you pulling out? Oh, my God. What is it?

[Ronnie Caram]

It's the picture frame. It is the picture frame she got during the year.

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, it's my picture frame. Because everybody wanted me to hate this so much, and I still loved it so much. So I love my picture frame, and I'm not ashamed of my picture frame. Then me and Greg, we always talk about the big picture, and it was symbolic to me. So, yeah, it's a little picture, but we talk about a big picture. It's a picture. So he couldn't really even get the picture right, which is the point. But I love him, and I have a frame and I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's nice to see that she still has not put a picture in the frame.

[Ronnie Caram]

She loves it so much. It's just not going to be used ever.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. Well, it is a ring, just a ring of metal that goes around a picture. And she. I love when she goes. I actually love picture frames. I don't know why. It's like, of course, like, this is Kieran's defining personality trait. She loves picture frames.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she's like, he loves me. He knows that I like picture frames,

[Andy Cohen]

and he got me a picture frame.

[Ben Mandelker]

Picture frames just get me more and more of them. I'm going on to Picture Frame Reddit right after this, but I actually feel

[Ronnie Caram]

bad for any husband who does buy his wife or partner, you know, girlfriend or whoever a picture frame as a gift, thinking it's going to be nice. Like, wow, she likes picture frames. I'm going to get her a picture frame. Because after this show, oh, you're going to get kicked out of the house or have to sleep on the couch.

[Ben Mandelker]

I, I, yeah, the picture frames have, I feel like picture frames have really dropped by the way. I hate her picture frame that she has. I feel like we haven't like talked about it enough.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's ugly and I feel like it's gonna have dog hair in it. You know, it's like just, Is it gonna be hard to dust? It's got, you know, it's not a good picture frame.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like a series, it's like, it's like this gold frame with a series of like hearts that are tumbling around it. And like this, there are hearts. But if you're not looking carefully, it sort of just looks like, like static or like wiring or like an electrical current. You know, it's like not even a pretty pattern.

[Ronnie Caram]

It looks like a dish, you know, like one of those metal scrubby things you use to clean a dish. But you've used it so much, it's all kind of pulled apart.

[Ben Mandelker]

Uh huh. Like a, like a shower scrunchie. A shower poof after its time. And I say that as someone whose shower poof is basically like turned into a giant like mop head.

[Ronnie Caram]

Me too. And how does that happen? They should be able to last longer.

[Ben Mandelker]

I actually like it that way. They have more coverage. I like when they get big. I had it in their infancy where they're tight, tight little shower poofs. I want them to.

[Ronnie Caram]

I moved on to sponges.

[Ad Host]

Huh?

[Ronnie Caram]

I moved on to sponges. I use big sponges now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, that's nice. Like a loofah?

[Ronnie Caram]

No. Well, kind of. I mean, kind of. I'll send you a picture. We'll talk about it over on Amazon.

[Ben Mandelker]

Put it in the newsletter. Newsletter? Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

Huge news. Sponges, commercials.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Here comes one right now.

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[Andy Cohen]

so she's like, I love picture frames. Well, we saw Greg go ring shopping this season, and then he gifted you with a picture frame. And that really made the viewers mad. Made me kind of sad. And then I waited by the phone for Sharice's son to call me to make me feel better, but he hasn't yet. Yet. Still have hope. How do you feel about that, Kierna? She's like, I mean, I understand why they could be mad, but I'm not mad. So I don't know why they're mad because I'm not mad.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's like, you're not mad?

[Andy Cohen]

No, I'm not mad. Are you mad yet? I'm still not mad. Well, all right. Let me, let me give you a. Let me give you a situation. Let's pretend you're handsome, you're successful, you have everything going for you, and Sharice's

[Ronnie Caram]

son hasn't called you.

[Andy Cohen]

How do you feel?

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Are you mad now? Since you love that picture frame so much, would you be mad if we took picture of Sharice's son and put it in the frame and then took another picture of me, cut me out of it and attach it to his picture, and it would be in your frame. You'd still have your frame, but now we could see what our future would be like if Sharice's son and I were together.

[Ronnie Caram]

Think about it. The thing with the picture frame is that it came from the same jeweler. So I was thinking maybe it was going to be jewelry.

[Andy Cohen]

And she's like, well, I get why you were thinking that. Because it came from a jeweler. So it looks like maybe it was going to be jewelry, but it wasn't. It was a picture frame. And I prefer picture frame frames. I want to walk down the aisle just wearing a picture frame on my hand, that that's all I really want walking down the aisle.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think it's like it's the picture frame. The thing is that, like, if Greg had gone out and bought this picture frame at, like, Macy's or Something or Target or whoever knows where, like, it'd be fine. Okay. It's. It's a cute little gift. But the fact that he went to a jeweler and got the frame at the jeweler, so he gets the cred of. Of like, getting her something nice because it's from, like, a jewelry shop, but it's just a picture frame. That's what annoys me. Because, like Giselle says, you have a bag that has the jeweler's name on it. You have a little box. It's like, it's literally telling you one narrative, and then at the last second, you're just getting a picture frame. It's just like. It's like opening up a box from Tiffany's, and inside is like a stapler. It's like, that's not cool.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And it's also. There's another level to it because he's saying, look, I went to the store, so I'm thinking about getting you a ring.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caram]

But I'm still not going to do it. It's like, that's even worse. It's like, wow, you've really talked to me so much about this that I'm really considering it. Still not getting what you want, Sucker.

[Ben Mandelker]

Or I wanted to, but the only thing I could afford was this picture frame. So this is the best that I could do. It's just like, you know, it's just not. It's just not what a real housewife deserves.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, well, I don't know. You date Greg, and you're still dating Greg. Just go away. Get away from Greg. That man does not want to marry. You should not have to beg somebody to marry. Although if you get a condo out of it, you know, I don't know. But did she. Do I believe that she got the condo from Greg? I still don't. So I don't. I don't know. I think Kieran is just kind of full of it. You know, she's tried. She's really made an effort for. What does she have three seasons now?

[Ben Mandelker]

This is her third season, somehow.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, enough. And now her big thing is she had that line, like, my condo, my things, my whatever. She had a man. Yeah, man. And then she had the iconic thing of Stacy basically shutting her up. But that wasn't her thing. That was Stacy shutting her up. And then her biggest thing, you know, she's repeating that line here.

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, oh, my God.

[Ronnie Caram]

Remember that line? It was so iconic. And then she's bringing out her other iconic thing, which is that picture Frame, which is so sad. And I think it might be time to just, you know, say bye.

[Andy Cohen]

Bye.

[Ben Mandelker]

The lease is up. I think the thing is that with Karen's famous line of, you know, my things, my condo, my man, whatever it is, that line is famous. Not because she said such a great line that were like, yes, this is going to be a mantra in my life. It's because she, like, her order of priorities where she thought she was, like, reading Stacy the filth. And she's like, I'm so happy for my life. I've got my condo.

[Ronnie Caram]

Or whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

It just was like. It was so lame. It was so lame. And we all laughed at it. Like, we were all laughing at Kierna in that moment. And she's like, yep, that was my line. It's like, oh, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, it might be time to always have her bones.

[Ben Mandelker]

And that's good news.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Andy's like, well, you believe that

[Andy Cohen]

moving back in with Greg made K lose her power. Giselle answer.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, well, that's what the old aunties say. And by old aunties, I mean certainly not me. Like, you are the old auntie. What are you talking about?

[Andy Cohen]

Just say it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Just say yes. And that's, you know. And she does. Basically, she's like, that's how I was raised.

[Andy Cohen]

And Kieran is like, well, I get that. I mean, I get that their generation did things that way. And, you know, there's. The way I do things is a little bit different, you know, and that's a decision we're making. Very, very careful. I mean, super carefully. Very, very carefully. First he went to the parking lot of the jeweler, and he did that for about a month every day. And then he finally went in. So that was something. I mean, picture frames. I love picture frames. I love picture frames.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love them.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

All right, well, Sharice's son still hasn't answered my text, asks, hey, why did you want a condo instead of a commitment? It's giving sugar, baby. Which, by the way, I just want everyone to know I am open to being in that sort of situation with, I don't know, maybe one of your sons, maybe Cherise's. I don't know. But which is fine. But if you want that. But you just own it, Tiana, and stop making us think Greg is going to put a ring on it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, it's me, angel here, guys. I just want you guys to get to know me a little bit better. So I just want to speak to this because there's a lot of projection that's going on about this and, you know, there's no world in which she's a sugar baby. She's a very strong, independent woman who never threatened to chin check me. And Kieran is like, well, let me

[Andy Cohen]

speak to this myself, okay? Because I can speak for myself. One thing I will say about myself is that I've always been a hard

[Ronnie Caram]

worker and I've always, always, Since I

[Andy Cohen]

was 23 years old, I've owned my own businesses.

[Ronnie Caram]

I've owned them, you know, have they

[Andy Cohen]

been picture frame businesses? No, but they could have been. And I don't want people questioning me. Picture frames, I love them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just the best thing in the world. So andy goes, okay, C.J.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

from Louisville said, wendy, why couldn't you just concede the point to Kane? Just apologize for not showing up to her as a friend in the way that she expected. Seems like you just didn't want to be your friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, I feel like your intent towards me was malicious and cares about, like, don't speak to my intent

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

because that was not the case.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I feel like you talk about the fact that I was a speaker and I didn't wave at you while I was speaking, but you have never once said to the women that the moment I got off stage speaking, I came up to you, I gave you a hug and in fact, I cut my arm on the picture frame that you had hanging off of your shoulder.

[Andy Cohen]

Kiera's like, no, you didn't.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, you didn't come up and give me a hug. She's like, oh, I didn't.

[Andy Cohen]

Let me finish, let me finish.

[Ronnie Caram]

Because what's so funny is that when the episode airs, someone who was at the bunch literally came up to me. And I remember they were at the bunch because when they came in, I waved at them and they came up to me and he goes, look, look, I got a picture. I got a picture of you hugging Kieran. So look at that. Okay? And it was all. And you know, I'm shocked. It must be a misunderstanding, you know? And this is Kierna. And this is what's kind of annoying about this whole season, being like, stacy's a liar when it's Kierna. They have no problem with Kierna, who's clearly gotten caught in a couple of doozies. This one's crazy. I walked into a charity event, you were on stage speaking and you didn't say hi to me from the stage. That's crazy. And then to pretend she didn't hug you, it had to Be caught on camera. The fact that this was even a fight is stupid. But the fact that you're actually being called out for being such a liar and it's being proven over your stupid storyline, it's ridiculous.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bye. Yeah, so. And I just feel like it's also just so crazy that, like, Kierna is expecting Wendy to wave at her while she's talking. And then. And then her argument is that it was a small room, so therefore, she could just. If you're giving a presentation and you're speaking, you're under no obligation to wave while you do it. I'm sorry. It's still one of the most ridiculous basises. Basis, basis, basis. Foundations of an argument.

[Ronnie Caram]

It is. We're not all as unprofessional as me. You know, if we're up there on a stage and we're talking about stuff, I will definitely be like, are you eating candy?

[Andy Cohen]

What kind is it? What does it taste like?

[Ronnie Caram]

Do you have any more? I mean, but not everybody's that unprofessional, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So they go back and forth about the hugging.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And Andy's, okay, I want to move on to Charisse's son. I'll be the top. He could be the bottom or go the other way around. Whatever works. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

So, Kay, can you clearly explain your issue with Stacy?

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, well, my issue is that she would act like I was so aggressive. And Stacy goes, because you are. Well, which has nothing different. That. Which was nothing different than what anyone else has said or done in. To her in this group.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's. Stacy's like, no, you were aggressive. And Tia's like, yeah, that's a harsh word. You shouldn't use that word. And Kieran is saying, no, it's a very convenient narrative that you like to pull out.

[Andy Cohen]

And Stacy's like, but it was aggressive. It was literally aggressive.

[Ronnie Caram]

You were in my face.

[Andy Cohen]

And Kieran says, oh, it's very black Karen of you.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so Stacy says, listen, I understand the connotations. I have responsibility as a black woman to not perpetuate that stereotype. But she has a responsibility as a black woman to act accordingly and to behave herself. And the world saw. I mean, we're going in and we're veering into respectability politics there, which I think she should have just left it at. You know, I know that no one likes the word aggressive, but you were literally in my face pointing fingers at me and screaming at me in public. So to me, that's aggressive. And just Left it at that, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Because when she says how someone should behave themselves, that is such a fraught topic that it's like, not the best.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Not the best.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Andy's like.

[Ronnie Caram]

And we learned about that during the Monique vs. Candace season when Giselle was using that argument against Monique.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Andy is like, okay, well,

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

what about ordering cheese in front of a lactose intolerant person?

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought you're allowed to do that.

[Andy Cohen]

That was hilarious. Well, do you think that it's aggressive

[Ronnie Caram]

to order cheese in front of a lactose?

[Ben Mandelker]

Daisy goes, that's not what happened.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

It's not.

[Ben Mandelker]

We see a flashback to her ordering burrata while K is like, I can't eat dairy, by the way. You want to split this? Let's get something to share. Okay. Burrata on a pile of cream cheese. Thank you.

[Andy Cohen]

And Karen was like, exactly, Andy. Exactly.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, so what now? I tried to kill her with cheese.

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, yes, she did. She tried to kill me because I

[Ronnie Caram]

told her I was allergic. You brought me a peace plant with no damn piece in my.

[Andy Cohen]

With no damn piece, my friend. You.

[Ronnie Caram]

You tried to kill me with cheese.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, Kieran, what type of friend are you? You chin checked your friend. And Ken was like, well, you know what? And you know what? Know what? Like, okay, let's just move on. Let's move on, Andy. Let's move on. Moving right along, Andy.

[Ronnie Caram]

Great alliance. Madness and sadness.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Andy's like, okay, we're gonna take

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

a quick break, and Jassy's gonna join us. We'll be right back.

[Ad Host]

Wow.

[Andy Cohen]

And Kieran is like, we'll see what Carol Kenny has to say.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now Wendy and Kierna are mocking each other back, back and forth. And now Jazzy comes back, and she's ridiculous and has three assistants carrying her dress because it's just so intricate. She's a wag. Now, everybody, in case you didn't know, she has three assistants to carry her dress.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

So Andy's like, wow, everything's coming up Nigerian.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we're just like, well, I'm sorry,

[Ronnie Caram]

because it's covered in roses.

[Ben Mandelker]

Andy's.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

And he's like, okay, we're back, and Jassy's joined us. Hey, Jassy.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, hello, Andy.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Great to see you again, Married lady. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you.

[Guest or Additional Panelist]

Congratulations. Yes. Do you know Cherise's son? Can you just give him a little text for me?

[Ben Mandelker]

Anything.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's been married six months now. Where's Darius? Playing. Why? The New England Patriots okay.

[Andy Cohen]

And he's like, have you met fellow patriots Wacky Cardi B?

[Ad Host]

Wow.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, well, no.

[Andy Cohen]

She came to one game and I wasn't at that game, so I didn't

[Ronnie Caram]

get to meet her. So now they're talking about Kierna's relationships. No, Kieran's relationship with her. And Jazzy, where do you stand with Kierna? And she's like, well, the two of us stand in front of each other and then we say nothing to each other whenever we see each other, because that's what happened yesterday on the bus. Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

[Ben Mandelker]

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