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Ronnie
Who cares what happens when there's so much what happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?
Ben
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what's Crappens? I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, Ben.
Ronnie
Hello, Ronnie.
Ben
How are you? Good. Welcome to Real Housewives of Potomac reunion Pod three, everybody. We had a great weekend at the Golden Crappies. It was a really fun, fantastic show. And it is still available. It's available for the next two weeks. Go to get links for tickets over at. Watch what crappens.com it was amazing. There was a Backstreet Boy.
Ronnie
Yeah, we had a Backstreet Boy. We broke into a new tier of crappy's ness, which is that we had AJ from the Backstreet Boys there, which was wonderful.
Ben
Who was so lovely, even wrote a speech and everything.
Ronnie
He was literally so nice. He was so down to earth. This is someone who performs at the Sphere and well, on. On top of that, he's like a global superstar. And the fact that he just came and there was no ego about it, he just was down for the fun. He just wanted to help out and do all the things. He was really great. And quite frankly, everyone across the board was lovely. And our friends Paul and Michelle were sort of like. And Colleen were sort of doing a lot of stuff backstage. We're coordinating, dealing with all the guests. And the next day we were all just, like, chatting and, like, what the feedback that we got was. Everyone was so kind and so nice. It's just really nice to hear that about, you know, know, Bravo, liberties, celebrities, just guests in general. There was just no issues from anyone. Everyone was chill. And we just really appreciate that. And I think that's. Isn't that just, like, great to hear, you know, that. That when people are nice, you know.
Ben
Yeah, everybody really was so nice and having all those. We had like 50 or 60 people backstage at one point, just partying and having so much fun, and everybody was so supportive of each other. And I don't know, it's just so great, you know, because we work alone most of the time, just the two of us, and we have a great time with each other. But to have so many people that we work around and work throughout the year, it's just so great. So thanks to everybody. So go get your tickets for that at. Watch what crappens.com Today, this Week is crazy. There's so many new things on. We've got Potomac ending. We've got the Valley ended already. We just came out with that recap. You know, the other stuff is still going. Then we've got Ladies of London starting. Southern Hospitality starting. I mean, it's nuts. It's a lot.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
And I have to say, I watched Southern Hospitality yesterday. Amazing. It is great.
Ronnie
Of course it is. I can't wait. So good.
Ben
I mean, it just starts. It starts at a hundred. I mean, it is so, so good. So I'm excited for that one. Also, if you want our videos on. If you want our recaps on video, go get those along with Traders, bonus episodes and ad free listening over at patreon.com also, our new newsletter just came out and we're going to have a Crappies newsletter this week. Just kind of journaling about, you know, what was happening backstage and all that good stuff that'll be out later. Those are free, so just go get that@patreon.com and let's see. Today is Real Housewives of what I
Ronnie
was just gonna say. And by the way, thanks to Patreon for their. After their pre party at the Crappies, which was great. And thanks to everyone who came to that.
Ben
Yeah, that was a good one. All right, everybody, thanks. Let's go to Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 Episode 20 Reunion Part 3. So where we left off, Monique has just told st. Listen, you know, I wanted to believe you on all this stuff, but then I found out you were really talking to Chris. And here's my proof. And she whips out her phone and she starts playing something and then we cut off. So we start this week where we ended, which is her playing this video. And it turns out this video is one long be. Yeah, it's just. This is an emergency broadcast system. Beep is one long beep. And then we see everyone's face. And of course Giselle is acting the most shocked, like, we got her. We finally got her. But no one heard any. No one heard a thing.
Ronnie
Yeah, I don't really know. What I could kind of discern was that someone was saying, hey, Stacy and Chris went on a date. I don't know what it was. I have no. Clearly someone was talking shit. And then they couldn't even say their name.
Ben
Yeah, they couldn't even say their name. And somewhat. Basically the gist of it is that someone told Chris that Monique was shooting with her children, which made Chris file. Whatever. And Chris was coming after Monique. And they're blaming Stacy for this because who else would tell? You know, this person says Stacey was the one. Some girl on your cast named Stacey. So she's like, well, what's that about? And so Andy asks her and she's like, I did not tell Chris that. And yes, I was in the room with you, Monique, because you were in my room and I came in to use the bathroom and I literally just went through a divorce. I literally just went through custody and all those things. Why on earth would I get involved in your business and your family? And she's like, that's my question.
Ronnie
And so Kieran is like, can I
Andy Cohen
just say something, Andy?
Ronnie
And Stacy goes, no, I am with my husband and my family. We're back together. And why would I want to harm you? I don't talk to Chris. I talk to my husband, whom I live with, who's also my husband, and we have Arabella together because he's my husband and I'm worried about my family, not yours.
Karen Huger
On the flip side, why would BLEEP make that up? Everybody knows BLEEP is pretty trustworthy.
Ben
And so I was like, yes, that's what I was going to say. I will always trust bleep.
Ronnie
By the way, Ronnie, I was sort of hoping, since you're really good about going on Reddit and digging stuff up. Stuff up. And since also I know you were finding some headlines today for Crappy Hour, which is tonight at 5:30 West coast time, I was hoping you might find some conspiracy theories on who Leap is.
Andy Cohen
Do you.
Ronnie
Did you find anything on your.
Ben
The only thing that people seem to be saying is it was either a stylist, but I don't know why they would have to cut that out, or it was Kehlani, her kid, her daughter. And they were saying maybe that's why they. That's why they had to beep it out, because it was a kid and they couldn't put the kid on camera.
Ronnie
But that's like, a really good theory. I was like. I was thinking of who else would be bleeped at. I was like, is it tj? Maybe. But then TJ probably would be happy with half his name on tv. Yeah, that's a great. I think it's the kid. I'm gonna say that. That basically the. The kid talked to Chris.
Ben
And Kierna keeps trying to jump in.
Karen Huger
She's like, let me say this.
Ben
And Stacy's like, let me finish.
Karen Huger
No, but I'm. Okay, I'll let you finish that.
Ben
Kieran is just trying her hardest to get in every single conversation. This has nothing to do with you, ma'. Am. So Stacy's like, well, I have no idea why BLEEP would say that, but I'VE not spoken to Chris about you and your children in filming. I did speak to him about stones. I tried to sell him a really good Christmas tree skirt with reindeer on it.
Ronnie
I tried to get him into a Snuggie. So Andy is like, were you in
Andy Cohen
contact with Chris while you were in production?
Ronnie
No, I was not. I never called him. Why would I do that? Well, you said you weren't in contact, but you were per. But you were because you showed me text messages from him before I even came around the group. So flashback of that.
Ben
No, I'm sorry, but that doesn't hold water because she showed you. We see the clip of her saying, look, he texted me, hey, what's up? I hear I'm being talked about on the show. But she didn't text him back, which was the whole point in showing you those texts, that he contacted her, but she didn't text him back. So I don't think it's fair to be like, well, you were in contact with him now he. He contacted her.
Ronnie
Yeah, I. Yeah, I don't know. I still just. I mean, it's hard to know. It's. With this new piece of evidence, it's really hard to weigh in on, like, what. What seems real or not real. It's all bleeped out. So I. I honestly just can't comment on it. But I don't know. I just don't think it's like an open and shut case that Stacy is the one who contacted Chris. I just don't think. And if she did, like,
Andy Cohen
if she
Ronnie
did, this is what I think happened. And I'm not, like, even trying to be a Stacy apologist, but I'm just trying to realistically think about how it could have gone down if Stacy did it. I don't think Stacy is the type that would call up Chris and, ooh, Monique is here. But I think she would be. Since Stacy does know Chris and she doesn't know Monique really at all, I don't think she'd be. I. I can imagine her doing something like, by the way, Chris, your ex was here and she was. She was filming and talking about your divorce. Just. Just so you know, like, because she's like, I know Chris. I don't know Monique. I'm not saying that that's good. I do think it's a violation of girl code that she did it, but I also don't. I just can't imagine Stacy doing it in, like, a real salacious, gossipy way. I could just sort of see her doing it. In a, like heads up person that I know this is happening on camera.
Ben
Well, this is beyond even saying, oh, he was talking about your marriage because she did all that on camera. So that stuff was going to come out anyway. This is, you know, you, you accused her of bringing the kids on camera, which didn't even happen, which caused a bigger fluffle and that they had to wait months for it to whatever. But you know, Chris is natural. He's. We saw the text of Chris saying, hey, I heard they're talking about me and filming. So we already see that Chris is being mess. Monique already knows that Chris is being messy. And Chris is constantly trying to start shit with Monique anyway. So it's, it's always tricky standing up for Stacy because Stacy has told some whoppers. So, yeah, you know, you don't want to get into that. But at the same time, I think that it's ridiculous to get mad at someone when you know that your husband is the one being drama and causing all the problems. And if you don't want your husband causing drama about you shooting, then don't shoot the show because he's gonna cause problems no matter what.
Ronnie
I, and again, I also, I do wonder about, like Cookie, I wonder about angel maybe casually mentioning something to Bobby and then Bobby maybe casually mentioning something Chris. I just, I can just sort of see things going in different directions.
Ben
I think it's Kierna telling Cookie and then Cookie calling Chris because they keep mentioning, which they will again in a second. They keep saying, oh, well, you know, the second we left that dinner, Chris was calling and already had the information while Kieran was the one sitting at the bar. Kieran was the one who had the time to call him. Everybody else who even had the time to call Chris.
Ronnie
Well, I think though that. No, because Kieran said the bar that was in the, that was in the wake of this. That was when.
Ben
Oh, that's, that's true.
Ronnie
It was like after Pride, when they all sat at that long table. I don't know. And the truth is I actually have. I actually really don't care about this whole thing either. But like, I just find myself like getting into the, the weeds with this stuff. I think it's just hard. If we had her, I'm sure if we had been able to hear that conversation, we may have been like, oh, well, yeah, maybe that does sound really bad for Stacy. It's just like hard. We don't, we just don't know. But all the women on stage do seem fairly convinced. I will say that they do.
Ben
They've been convinced the whole season, and it's just the same people coming after her over and over. So it's like, you know, two dummies telling each other.
Ronnie
Exactly.
Ben
You know, it's kind of that meme. It's been the same thing. It's like Salt Lake City. They're all convince. Convinced Meredith did this horrible thing or whatever. Well, yeah, you've been telling each other that over and over all season, so you're sticking to your guns, but I don't have to believe it. My biggest disappointment here is that, you know, we've been waiting for this huge bombshell, and it was nothing. It was one long bleep. So if you can't come on with anything more than a bleep, it's inadmissible in this court of law. I will not accept it.
Ronnie
And I. I do feel like there's, like, an undercurrent of the fact that Stacy became, like, audience favorite. In fact, I mean, she won. She actually won Best Bravo Liberty at our. At our show, like, the people. Like, we had, like. Like thousands of votes, and people voted for Stacy. Like, she's super popular.
Ben
She's basically the president now.
Ronnie
She's. I mean, that's the highest honor that. Not, like, not only a Bravo Liberty could get, a celebrity could get, and. But it is. It honestly, it really is a testament. That's like a. That's like. It's a real testament to her popularity. And I don't think the women like that. I think they see her as a newbie who comes in, and they see her as, like, a little bit of a fakey, and somehow the audience loves her, and it's not fair. And I think they're pissed.
Ben
Yeah.
Karen Huger
It's time for a commercial.
Ben
It's time for a crappin's commercial. So Karen is like.
Karen Huger
Well, let me just say this. One of the biggest issues that I had is when I met you, the way that, you know, you poured it all on the line. You were so vulnerable.
Ben
I love that they're giving mo' Nique her own award. They're all doing it this season. They're like, oh, my God, Monique, you. You were just so vulnerable in that scene about your marriage.
Karen Huger
Oh, you just did so good. You did so great. So we believe you. You're vulnerable.
Ronnie
Well, she is kind of dressed statuette, you know, the triangle and, like, the, you know, look at her hair. She just sort of does look like a trophy.
Ben
She won the. The yield award, so. So she's like, Karen is Like, you know, I mean, Monique was so vulnerable. And then that same day, when I get in the car, I leave there, I talked to Cookie and she was so upset about the situation and said, well, if this doesn't get squared away, he's going to send her a cease and desist. And you did that, Stacy. And that was rough. The fact that Chris is calling Cookie, who is connected to all of this cast, to be messy. I just, I think that shows you who you're dealing with here, Cookie and Chris. And I love that Stacy goes, we're literally talking about Cookie. Monique, are you listening to this? And what is the only one reason, like, who are we? Why are we trusting Cookie or Chris?
Ronnie
And also Kierna, you left this lunch and you caught. You called up Cookie. Why did you call up Cookie? Or I guess immediately to give her maybe. Maybe Cookie called her.
Ben
But either way, even so, she knows she's going to be able to call her and talk about T from filming, which is the whole thing that this is about somebody leaking filming to Cookie. And that's exact. Or leaking filming in general. And that's exactly what Karen is admitting to doing right now.
Ronnie
So, yeah, I think that's like, someone should have kind of grilled her on. I'm like, still in traders mode. So I'm like, why was no one. What about that line of questioning? Why didn't they talk about that at the roundtable?
Ben
I think that she called her right after the show and she said, this is what happened. And Cookie said, well, he'll file a cease and desist when I tell him and this has to stop.
Ronnie
Yeah. And I think that Kieran doesn't remember saying it. I'm actually going to say she has plausible deniability because just as how she didn't remember that she said chin checked. She totally forgot that she said chin checked. I think she just doesn't actually maybe remember the stuff that she says to Cookie. I'm not sure, but something is like, I just think there's something weird. But if you talk to Cookie afterwards, like, why is Cookie calling? I don't know. Like, I don't know.
Ben
But can I just tell you what is happening to me right now? We are saying cookies so many times, and I found myself searching in my email for my Girl Scout cookies because I ordered Girl Scout cookies. A listener was like, would you buy some Girl Scout cookies? And I was like, fuck, yes, I will. Send me 20 boxes or whatever. Send me 10 boxes. I don't know how many I ordered. And then I was Thinking, where are my thin Mints? Where are they? And guess what? I just opened FedEx. Where are they? Oh, lucky there's no tracking here. Wait, hold on. Oh, I think label create. Okay.
Ronnie
Hey, Ronnie, I think now would be a great time to mention. I did forget to mention this on the Valley episode when I was, like, acting like I was giving an acceptance award for our show. But we did mention that the Patreon pre party was catered by something about her. And I think something that people don't realize. Everyone knows it's a restaurant built on sandwiches. People don't realize they serve enormous, delicious cookies that are the size of umbrellas. I mean, those things. Those things that make levain cookies look like little adorable, you know, like, amuse bushes. These. These were. These cookies that they have at. Something about her are massive, and they were delicious. And I feel like people should know that it needs to get out those words.
Ben
I was really bummed, actually, because I left. I had hidden some to eat after the show, and I left them there.
Ronnie
No, I put them on your. I put them on your bag.
Ben
Someone took them then because they weren't there when I was there, because they were up.
Ronnie
So. They were up on. I. I took them out of the hiding place because I didn't want you to forget them. So. And then I took them from the hiding place and I put them on your bat on your back. I literally did. Yes. Yes.
Ben
I think.
Andy Cohen
I'm sorry.
Ronnie
I really miss.
Ben
So anyway, Stacy's like, whatever, I didn't do it. And Andy's like, I watch people's expressions.
Karen Huger
I watch body language, Wendy. And I've had my eye on you, and it feels like you're looking at Stacy waiting for her to confess.
Ben
Why does Wendy get to talk about confess? Other people confessing? Why are we asking Wendy for other people to confess when her ass is lying through her teeth in this episode?
Ronnie
And she's like, well, I don't think I'm waiting for her to confess. I feel like I'm seeing in real time the tides are turning, and everyone's pointing the finger at her. And to hear bleep say that takes it to a different level. And that's just where I'm at. I'm like, so that was a non answer.
Andy Cohen
Okay. Any response? Stacy?
Ronnie
She's like, no.
Andy Cohen
Okay.
Ben
I love Stacy in that moment. She's like, whatever.
Ronnie
No.
Ben
So, okay, what does Monique think? And she's like, well, I'm gonna be believe bleep over anybody. So we all know that is pretty
Ronnie
dependable it's got to be the daughter. That's a great theory. Whoever came up with that on the Internet, I. I think, like, you did a great job there with. That's.
Ben
Rita Jones came up with that. I think it's a good one. R.A. jones. So Giselle's like Rashida Jones. No, it's her. It's her Reddit sister, Rashid.
Ronnie
Rashida Jones. Like, wow. It's a theory that came from a very glamorous place. That theory has bangs. Oh.
Ben
So Monique is like, well, that's my number one. And then we hear bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. So when BLEEP said somebody on your show said you're someone on your show's name is Stacy, I'm like, well, how do you know that? And Andy's like, what's your response, Stacy? And she goes, I wouldn't do that to you. She's like, so then why are there daggers out for you to the magnitude that they are? And she's like, I have nothing to gain from being involved with your ex husband, and I would beg for you to be smarter in this mom moment. And everyone's like, oh, but.
Ronnie
And Monique is like, I don't want to have an issue with you. I just don't. Like, I don't. I don't feel like I know where this information is being leaked. And then the only person that keeps coming up is you, unfortunately. So why don't we all sit down and talk to Chris? And she goes, well, because he's never gonna be accountable. So Jazzy's like, and if you had
Andy Cohen
sex with him and probably still having sex with him, I doubt that he'd be honest anyway.
Ronnie
Okay, Jazzy, whatever.
Ben
So quiet down over there.
Ronnie
What a smile.
Ben
You had sex with him, and you'll probably still have sex them. Okay, okay, Jazzy.
Ronnie
Jazzy. So she's.
Andy Cohen
She like, is that so J. To me, is that. That you came in peace. You didn't know her, so you shared your healing. And which is when you. When you share like, that you. You carry other women along like you. And you didn't have to do that. And the fact that somebody would go around and, like, bastardize that conversation is k. It was awful.
Ben
It was horrible.
Andy Cohen
I think all of our family should be protected. And you keep saying your family and your. Look at what she's going through with her family. We have to get to the butt of it because it's serious. Not as serious as a child who keeps kissing himself in the Movie, but pretty serious.
Karen Huger
Okay, well, we're gonna leave it there. I just said it was serious, Andy. Well, it's over now. I would like to go back to it. She was so vulnerable. Please.
Andy Cohen
Well, speaking of serious radio, Andy is on Sirius.
Ronnie
Okay.
Andy Cohen
Segue into nothing. Okay. I want to talk about hosting and trips because ever since Giselle landed in Karen Seed on her birthday back in season one. Because we aren't going to kind of try to make this a ten year retrospective thing. Okay?
Ronnie
So etiquette and hosting have been the other words on the street of Potomac.
Andy Cohen
Let's watch.
Ronnie
So we see a package of all the events and trips and things that happened over the year, including the Colorado trip. So we come back and.
Karen Huger
Well, Atsi from Chuset said Giselle did a great job hosting the trip to Nevis. Giselle, do you regret intentionally excluding Stacy from aspects of the trip? I. E. Not embroidering a robe? That was so funny.
Ben
She's like, no, but I will apologize for giving you a large robe. I did not mean to fat shame you. I would have given you a robe that fit, but I still wouldn't put the name on it because I'm shady.
Ronnie
Stacy goes shade accepted.
Andy Cohen
All right. Rubber from band said, angel, why do you keep making people sit in silent circles at your events?
Ronnie
You know what? I understand that it's not for this group. Now, I get that the. Not that. Not the meditations. This is not the meditation sit around the sound bowl group. Okay? I mean, it's like, oh, I actually would have. I love sound bowls. I would have loved to have been there, by the way. I would have loved Andy to have asked some question about all the men who sat there silently in a circle as well, staring at the women on that trip. And it never came up. And I'm really upset about it because that was one.
Ben
Yeah, me too.
Ronnie
Big Internet moments of this season. Yeah.
Ben
Yeah, it was pretty gross. So then they talk about how fun it was when they were singing, and they should come out with a group called the Potomac Ponies. Oh, guys, wouldn't that be fun? And then we see Ashley being nasty and, well, the. The tweets about Ashley singing that were nasty to Ashley because Ashley's like, I would be the Diana Ross of the group. And they're like, right? And so we see all the tweets that are like, Roberta Flack is rolling over in her grave.
Andy Cohen
And Andy's like, what about Stacy's potato salad?
Ronnie
And I'm like, see, why are we asking about the potato salad when we could been asking about those guys. Right. And no one liked it.
Andy Cohen
Okay, well, Saran from Rap said, tia, what did your co workers, AKA the
Ronnie
white people think when they watch the polo event episode?
Andy Cohen
Well, gameplay employed.
Karen Huger
Yes, I'm still gameplay employed there and I've sold more than one house, by the way. Jazzy.
Ronnie
She goes, good, now you can take care of your hubby.
Andy Cohen
Yes, it was great and it was better than your $150,000 townhome.
Ben
She says, again, now you can go take care of your hubby. Her husband works. Ma', am, doesn't her husband work at NASA or something?
Ronnie
Yeah, I'm like, did you not notice his, like slim fit Banana Republic corporate button down shirt that he wears every episode he works?
Ben
She's like, your husband may work for NASA, but my husband throws a ball. So yeah, try a little.
Ronnie
Oh, that's another thing I would have liked on this reunion would have been Andy grilling Angel a little. A little bit about her always being like as an elder wag and being really very braggy about things all the time. I felt like that was like a big. That wasn't a big thing, but it's something I would have liked her to have been confronted with, you know?
Ben
Yeah. But you know what, Angel? I mean, angel had the biggest moment of the season with that trip and she's just so sad. It's like, I think Andy was just at this point avoiding questions with angel because every answer is like, well, let me tell you how I feel about. It's like, oh my God, close the door. Droopy. Close the door.
Ronnie
I know.
Ben
Like, the elevator opens going down.
Ronnie
Angel's a little bit like hal dying in 2001 Space Odyssey. Just like Daisy D. So Andy's like,
Andy Cohen
okay, I want to talk about Colorado. The worst gas trip in real house history.
Ronnie
Andy is, like, not happy about this Colorado trip. I'd like to say he does not seem to find the camp value that I personally found in it. I think people are divided on this trip. I think that you either are like, that was awful. Why were we watching that? Or you think that was so hilarious because it was so shitty. I'm in the latter camp, obviously. I've said it a million times on this podcast, but I think that Andy was genuinely upset about it. I feel like in his mind it's like it like tarnished the brand of the Housewives, but I don't know, I thought it was. I thought it was like the best thing I've seen in forever. I loved it.
Ben
Yeah. So they're talking about how they put Ashley and Giselle on a little room together and how funny it was. And Angel's like, they deserved it. And Giselle's like, boo, tomato, tomato. Okay, Giselle, you attempted to take over the trip when no water issues persisted. She's like, absolutely.
Karen Huger
Yeah.
Ben
So they. He asked if they thought it was overstepping. And of course, Kierna steps in there, and money's like, but you didn't even have to stay in the house. So. What are you talking about?
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
And.
Ronnie
And so basically, Giselle's like, yes, I think Andy should redirect the question to everybody who's in the house with. Who had. Who has had no water? Because we were stuck with no water. Okay. And Karen was like, well, it's not like I haven't dealt with bad, like, issues on trips before. Okay. And then we see a clip from when Kieran had diarrhea on a trip. I'm like, you having diarrhea is not the same as being put in accommodations where there's no water. Like, that's funny, though, in you. Yeah, that was so funny.
Karen Huger
She's like, I've.
Ben
I've had plenty of problems on trips. And they show her running to the bathroom. Oh. So angel apologizes again. And Giselle's like, yeah, but you know what? You just said you were sorry we went through that. We didn't get that at the time. And she's like, well, I wasn't on the text thread, and the only reason I even knew what happened is because I called Jazzy to see how you ladies are doing. But as a host, you should have
Karen Huger
been checking on us about everything.
Ronnie
Well, I felt that the priority was to try to find a solve first so that I could get you guys a better location. And Andy's like, okay, here's a question.
Andy Cohen
How did you all get so lost?
Ronnie
And she's like, well, someone who needs to get to know me, and they will get to know me soon enough, dropped me a pin and who was actually at the location in real time. Like, I don't know why she. It's so funny to be like, she was at their location in real time. It wasn't a pre record, like, Outlander.
Ben
She's like, yeah, I got someone dropping me a pin five hours after, but it arrived before.
Karen Huger
Who cares?
Ben
Of course it was in real time. And if someone dropped you a pin where they were, then why did it take you to the wrong place? None of this makes sense. But I also love that Giselle just. We just found out that Gisele had a whole text thread for the group trip without angel on it. I mean, that's so funny.
Karen Huger
Yeah.
Ben
She's like, you guys had a whole text thread without me. How am I supposed to know?
Ronnie
Yeah. And then on screen, we see the production text angel to say that her staff sent the wrong pin. So her staff sent the wrong pin. And again, we discussed this at the time. Why did her staff send a PIN in the first place? They should have sent an address. Because honestly, every place has an address at this point. Like, even if you're on a campsite, there's going to be a listing for that campsite. If they. They had to find the campsite on the Internet. And if you found the campsite on the Internet, then you had an address. Like, they got to that campsite at some point. Like, someone. It wasn't just like a pin that got perpetually sent forward. And they were like, like, how did they get there in the first place? They had an address. Why don't you send the address. Don't drop pins.
Ben
Send the address of that porta potty that that dude was cooking that five star dinner in front of. So then we see, basically, it's just the. The pin drama. And t goes, well, it took us forever.
Karen Huger
And we didn't get pizza on the side of the road either. I'll tell you that.
Ronnie
Yeah, that's true. We didn't really think about that. They were not fed. They were just driving around. And Giselle's like, that's embarrassing.
Ben
Yeah.
Andy Cohen
We never ended a season in a gas station.
Ronnie
Like, you haven't technically ended a season in a gas station, but, like, we also had a season ender where everyone went to Shannon's backyard and they played a rock song that was written by Richard Marks. So, like, you're like, honestly, sometimes they. These things just don't work out for you guys. Sometimes the. The banquet hall gets canceled, and we. We are okay with it.
Ben
Just be grateful, you know?
Karen Huger
So he's like, okay, we'll leave it there. I think you'll all be happy to know that we're not gonna visit that re.
Ben
That trip again.
Karen Huger
Okay.
Ben
But you didn't ask so many questions about it.
Ronnie
Still, there were so many questions to be had. Andy, you failed on this front. Why are you asking. Asking about potato salad.
Ben
So now they're setting up the next shot because Karen is coming out, and Giselle's like, wow, I watched the special with Karen. Not. You were very tough on her. And I think that was great. Da And Karen's walking to the stage. Karen has done something, I think, to her upper mouth where she's.
Ronnie
Thank you.
Ben
It's like over biting or something. Also. I'm just gonna say it now. Is Karen drunk? I think this is probably. I don't think you're supposed to ask that if somebody comes out as sober. But she hasn't really. She's still refusing to say alcoholic. And I'm not sure what's going on, but it's kind of talking. I'm not sure if it's the lip or the alcohol or the boo or the pill or pills or what it is, but something's off.
Ronnie
I don't know if she got new teeth. She definitely got, like, some new fillers or something. It's like she got an awning installed in her lips. It's like, you know that they show late at night where it's, like, attached. It's like. It's like attached to the side of your house. And you press a button, it comes out, like, very slowly. And the elderly who are drinking lemonade are like shade. And I feel like she caught that, like, in her lips and it like, it. But it was newly installed and still have to come back out.
Ben
It says, tally Ho as it comes about.
Ronnie
I feel like a technician still needs to come out and make some minor adjustments because, like, she just wasn't able to talk right. She was like, thank you very much.
Ben
I am sure.
Ronnie
I'm like, it's wonderful. Like, her words were, like, getting messed up. And we see her talking just a few months ago with Andy in those flashbacks, and she sounds perfectly fine. And her lips are also smaller, but she just hasn't quite figured out how to say her. Get her fricatives out properly. It's like a. Or a sound, I believe.
Ben
I wish it was like a fricative,
Ronnie
like a Brenda.
Ben
Brenda Fricker.
Ronnie
If we're not talking about Brenda Bleffin, it's gotta be Brenda Fricker.
Ben
There's gonna be a Brenda on this every damn time.
Ronnie
Fricatives are a classic consonants produced by forcing breath through a narrow channel in the vocal tract, creating a continuous audible friction. For example, a sound or a sound or sound. So that's something you all should know.
Ben
Yeah, learn. You guys,
Andy Cohen
why was there a pin drop for the fricatives?
Ronnie
Here comes one right now.
Ben
So they're talking about how Karen was really owning it in her interview. And Andy's like, yeah, she owns stuff. And Stacy goes, the legal seafood of it all, girl. So Kare comes out.
Karen Huger
It's like, hello, hello, people. You're welcome.
Ben
You're wel. She's just autographing the air.
Karen Huger
Hello, hello. She's here. She's here. Have you ladies been behaving?
Ronnie
She has a really big shoulder, kind of poof or wave or something, and it's, like, getting in her way of seeing Andy, which is distracting because the entire interview, she's, like, trying to pat it down. Very tough time for me right now.
Karen Huger
Hold on.
Ronnie
Let me put down the. This fabric wall for a second. It's great to be here.
Karen Huger
We all better be happy I'm back. Well, I was gonna ask the ladies how it feels to have the Grand Dame back, but you've mentioned that you wanted to shed that moniker. Are you still the grand dame? And she's like, well, let's be very clear. I never needed the grandam, but I am grateful for a grande dame, and people have bestowed it upon me, and I've tried to shed it, but it's not working. So I give the people what they want. I've that moment of humility or is gone now. And I'm now the grandam again.
Ben
It's like, wow, that took you, like, one week after your interview to be like, wow, I'm humble now, and I never need to be the Grand Dam again. She's like, no, I'm back. Yes, I'm keeping it.
Ronnie
And I also love that they showed this clip from 2017 where Cameron looked very different, and she was talking about how she had moved out of Potomac to. This is when she moved to probably Great Falls or wherever it was in Virginia. And Ashley's like, well, you're not gonna be the Grand Dom of Potomac anymore.
Andy Cohen
She goes, that's your opinion. People bestowed that upon me, and I graciously accepted it until I hand it off. It's no one to have that.
Ronnie
She's.
Andy Cohen
She was saying, like, oh, well, I was.
Ronnie
I never cared about being random. And they showed this clip of her being like, it's mine, and I'm keeping it. So Andy's like, ladies, how does it
Andy Cohen
feel to have Karen back out here?
Ronnie
And just like, I'm super excited. It's great to have my favorite punching bag back. I just told her. I was like, I don't like doing reunions without her. So she said, I'm here. Or actually, I believe she said, I'm fear. I'm fear. But I think she meant, I'm here. I'm here. Can't really tell with that lip.
Karen Huger
Will I not say it like that? I am here. Though. And I was about to sit on your lap. What do you think of that? Has someone been sitting in my seat? I was going to sit on your lap. That was the plan. Still got it. Still got it.
Andy Cohen
Ladies, how does it feel to see Karen Ashley? Oh, it's amazing. It's just like old times. I'm only saying that because she's like, looking at olden times. Wow, look at her.
Karen Huger
It's just like old times. And she is the times that are old.
Andy Cohen
It's like. It's like when you see those. Those movies about the old west.
Ben
That's Karen, Wendy. Well, I've not seen her and I'm just happy to see her on the other side of this.
Karen Huger
Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Wend check. Yeah, fine, fine.
Ben
You got that one.
Karen Huger
So who are you seeing here for the first time?
Ben
Like, no.
Karen Huger
And actually, I have a wonderful pleasure
Ben
of meeting the rookies.
Karen Huger
Great energy, ladies. And when I, you know, say I start going off the way the rail sometimes, and my heart went out to them, I wish I could have picked up the phone and it told you to tell them to themselves sometimes, but, you know, let it go. But Giselle would have been like, okay, next.
Ronnie
You're right.
Andy Cohen
But you handled it. You handled it very well. And you also haven't seen Monique in some time. She's like, I have not. I have not. But you look very beautiful. Very beautiful.
Ronnie
Monique's like, thank you. You do too. So Andy's like, well, who has been
Andy Cohen
the most supportive of this group?
Ronnie
Well, just have a little surprise.
Andy Cohen
You know, she did some things that really made me smile about seeing me and leaving me not to my mailbox. I got them. I have them little fax messages, which
Karen Huger
is my love language.
Andy Cohen
So thank you very much.
Karen Huger
Well, I'm told that you watch this season. What was your reaction when you heard Giselle say she was hoping that you would be in an elderly wing of the jail?
Ben
So shady. I was cracking up. And we see the clip of Giselle saying, I want her to be secure. I want her to be like, here. Here's an elderly section. And Ashley being like, yeah, like the
Karen Huger
AARP of the jail.
Ronnie
So, like, Karen's like, well, you know,
Karen Huger
I ignored her ass.
Andy Cohen
Okay, well, you and Stacy ended on
Ronnie
not a great note. Karen. Karen starts looking for Stacy. She's sitting right next to Stacy and she starts looking for Stacy, looking all the way down. I was like, where are you
Ben
looking for me? I'm sitting right next to you.
Karen Huger
She's like, oh, well, did you lie Again, this. This season, Stacy, because there's no shade. That's a question.
Ben
She's like, what was I lying about?
Karen Huger
Well, last year, it was about the boyfriend. That was not your boyfriend. Right. And this year, you're not dating Chris, but I hear you might be dating Chris. Is that true?
Ben
Are you really coming after someone for lying, Karen?
Ronnie
Yeah, Karen, come on. He's just like, that's not true at all.
Andy Cohen
Where do you stand today?
Ronnie
Well, I think it's clear where we stand. My goodness.
Andy Cohen
It's like, I don't know. What was that? Where is he? Since you're actually on the set, I literally don't know where she's standing.
Karen Huger
Honestly, this line of questioning shouldn't define where we stand. I'm for new beginnings, but I cannot take the lies. You understand me, young lady?
Ronnie
Well, I would love for you to give me that opportunity.
Andy Cohen
Oh, you've got it. But please don't lie, because, you know, I know. I always know. And I'm the one that lives in Potomac. By the way.
Ronnie
She goes, okay, you live in Potomac.
Ben
It's so Karen is so Karen.
Karen Huger
And by the way, ladies, I'm the only one who actually lives in Potomac. Thank you for having me.
Ronnie
So
Ben
where are we? So it's been four months since you were released.
Karen Huger
How has your sobriety journey been going? She goes, absolutely wonderful. I'm in recovery for life on all levels. And I'm at peace. I'm at peace and a very much at peace. I'm on peace on the rocks with a splash. How do you feel about that? I just want to revisit something. Karen, you are not completely comfortable calling yourself an alcoholic. So is it part of being an addict owning that?
Ben
And she's like,
Karen Huger
well, I'm still not an alcoholic, but, you know, it's a personal choice. Andy is how I identify. I've learned that in 2026. We respect how people identify. You know, I met a girl in prison who called herself a unicorn, and we just went with it. Andy, you know, it's called respecting people's identities. And I'm a non alcoholic, and I would appreciate it if we all threw me a parade and celebrated me coming out of the closet. Thank you very much. I'm Karen Hugo. I'm not an alcoholic.
Ben
Thank you.
Andy Cohen
Here's what I am, Andy. I am an addict. I am addicted to wi Fi in Surrey County. So sue me. That's what I am. Apologies, everyone.
Ronnie
Andy is like. But isn't part of being an addict owning this?
Andy Cohen
Well, I own everything about it. And there's also a choice that you make, that which empowers you to say that I'm a woman who. That chose to live in complete sobriety the rest of my life, and I'm going to be in recovery. And I think that says it all. Well, it says almost everything except for one word that starts with A and ends with a. Oh, yes, aspic. I enjoy it. A delicious dessert. Gelatin. Who knew?
Karen Huger
Well, you know, we saw. Let's look at some BravoCon footage when you came out and everyone cheered for you. That was amazing.
Ben
You know, there are still a chorus
Karen Huger
of people saying that you put people's lives at risk. And they're asking whether or not you should be given a platform. What is your reaction? Well, Andy, first of all, I would hope they would consider that facing your addiction, which right now has no name, is a brave act and a brave step. And people have a right to their opinions. But I have a right to thrive and not say the Alphabet backwards just because someone wants to with me after I've taken a little stroll down the street to have a cocktail.
Ronnie
I love when she said, I have a right to thrive.
Andy Cohen
Drink and thrive. It's actually illegal,
Karen Huger
so I got a gut. Andy, driving under the thriving, it's called
Andy Cohen
a gut instinct for that reason.
Ronnie
So Giselle is like, guaranteed something that
Karen Huger
was driving while thriving. Andy, thank you very. Guilty. Guilty. I'm guilty on that one.
Andy Cohen
Arrive and live, don't drink and thrive.
Ronnie
So Giselle says, says Karen did something that was bad. She served her time for it. And the other thing she did that was bad, whatever filler she put in her upper lip, she sounds like she is choking on a chocolate bar.
Karen Huger
Well, I would like to point out to everyone I'm now selling T shirts that say Matida Mothers Against Thriving Driving. Thank you very much. I'll be here all week.
Ronnie
So we are so wrong. We are so bad. We should not be making jokes about these very important slogans. These are like literally life saving slogans in organizations. And we're like, there's a pun. But seriously, when she said, like, I. When she said I have a right to thrive, in response, I just, I thought that was like, I thought that was an amazing phrase.
Andy Cohen
I have a right to thrive.
Ben
Oh. So now Monique is like, oh, my God. You know, Karen, you know, she dropped her walls. And she talks about how Karen's parents passed and she really dropped her walls. And, you know, now she's doing the work and she's so proud of her. And Karen's like, God, thank you.
Karen Huger
Don't make me cry. Do not make me cry.
Ben
And. And he's like, well, Karen, I want
Karen Huger
to thank you for being so candid today and the evening that I met
Ben
you at your home.
Karen Huger
And I'd also like to thank you for the tab that you served me that night. I haven't had one of those in
Ben
a very long time.
Andy Cohen
How's your son doing, by the way? Speaking of that night, he hasn't responded to any of my text messages.
Ronnie
It's kind of wondering if he'd like to hang out.
Ben
Out.
Andy Cohen
Apparently he is not up, which is.
Karen Huger
I think that he has the phone number for Sharice's son.
Andy Cohen
Do you think that, I don't know,
Ronnie
they'd be up for maybe all three
Andy Cohen
of us hang out?
Karen Huger
I don't know.
Andy Cohen
See where the night takes us? Just exploring each other's bodies.
Ronnie
Just seeing, exploring, wonder.
Karen Huger
So Andy's like, this group of women said that you were in denial about a whole bunch of things. And one of the headlines of our conversation was you repeatedly saying, I was in denial. Oh, absolutely. I was in denial. I don't deny that because I don't deny things as a person who's not in denial. Andy, thank you.
Andy Cohen
Denial in the middle of Virginia, you
Ronnie
know, so Andy's like, well, did that,
Andy Cohen
did that resonate with you? Actually, 100%. Okay. Glad to hear that.
Karen Huger
It was important. An important hour of television. It was a very, very important hour of television. And I would like to thank myself for being so hard headed.
Ben
You're welcome, everybody.
Andy Cohen
I'd like to also thank Jen Pauli for asking the hard hitting questions. That was me. I'm not Jane Paulie. All right.
Ronnie
Sandy's like, well, you also corroborated Ash's
Andy Cohen
Legal Seafood story, which sounded like total last year, but somehow that is the one thing that was verified. She's like, yes, yes, yes. And thank God she finally got one of our stories right about me. But I did it. I would go to Legal Seafood and I'd get drunk and I'd say, isn't it funny being in a place called Legal Seafood getting drunk? I wonder if I'll ever get into a problem. I have a legal problem with getting drunk. Maybe there'll be seafood.
Karen Huger
Illegal. Legal seafood. Illegal driving. Why is one legal and one isn't? Let's discuss that.
Andy Cohen
Unfortunately, my body has a negative reaction to clam chowder, I've realized, and it makes me drive like I'm drunk. But luckily, it's not the alcohol, it's just the chowder the very specific issue.
Karen Huger
Well, you did say that Wendy was lying about what she said.
Ben
And we see a clip of the last reunion, Wendy saying that she went to a place and they told her Karen goes every day and gets drunk. And then a clip from Karen's interview saying she doesn't know what Wendy's talking about. Do you think that Wendy got that gossip from Ashley and just made it her own because she didn't think Ashley was going to say anything or what?
Ronnie
I think the like Wendy says it was a random person and I actually believe that. I believe a random person was like, like, oh my God, Wendy, I love you on the show. Can I say something like, it's so sad with what happened to Karen, but you know what? Like, I used to see her at this one bar. She'd always get drunk all the time. And I'm just happy she's getting the help that she needs. You know, people will sometimes say crazy things.
Ben
It's probably the same person. It's probably the same legal seafood bartender. He's just on everyone's public transportation. Everywhere you go, he's just waiting for a Real Housewife of Potomac to come on. I hey, I know Karen has drink
Karen Huger
for alcohol every day.
Ronnie
If you ride the acela long enough, you know, eventually someone from Potomac needs to get to New York City. Find them. Yes, Gigi, I'm a bad girl telling gossip about legal seafood.
Karen Huger
Well, honestly, one day I don't believe anyone is talking to you about me.
Ben
Well, you can believe whatever you want.
Karen Huger
Well, you can produce them. Where are they? Where are they? Where are they?
Ronnie
So then Wendy is like, well, talking about now the betrayal, you know, when. When. When Karen was like said like, I
Andy Cohen
want to thank everyone. I want to thank Giselle. I want to thank Ashley. I want to thank Andy Cohen. I'd like to thank craft services. I'd like to thank whoever installed the ceiling fan at the bank. Cuz it gets hot in there when
Ronnie
you wait to make your deposit closets.
Karen Huger
Thank you.
Andy Cohen
Thank you for making my life better
Ronnie
before I go to jail.
Ben
Well, you can give your flowers to whomever you choose, but I would not be being truthful if I if to myself I didn't say, oh, that felt stingy.
Karen Huger
I felt the sting from that. She's like, well, I think it's important to deal in reality even though we're on a show. Let's be honest. You and I became distant because I feel betrayed by you. And I just felt like you betrayed me when you went over to Stacy
Ben
and then we see a flashback. Stacy saying, karen said that Wendy was self absorbed, wasn't a girl's girl and she would never be my friend. And Karen's like, I've never said that to you.
Karen Huger
Do you believe this shit?
Ben
Wendy and Wendy saying, oh, you're gonna have to side eye for a minute, that's for sure. And so we come back and Wendy's like, the betrayal was from you. Because I remember very specifically when we sat down to pick out dining wear for my 40th birthday party and you referenced my mother as a witch.
Ronnie
The shrine fight comes back.
Karen Huger
Congratulations.
Ben
You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two.
Karen Huger
Go look for the recap that says part two.
Ben
See you over there, suckers.
Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
It's the Foster and the Furious.
Karen Huger
It's.
Ronnie
It's Amanda Foster. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clapp.
Ben
Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniella Etchells. We never miss her Call, it's Diane Call Sunday in the park with Dylan Clark. Big yay. It's Emily Gaultier.
Ronnie
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Ben
Namey Sipped some scotch with Jessica Trotch.
Ronnie
She's not a McBee, she's a McBride. Jess McBride she's our favorite streamer.
Ben
Caroline Peacock, Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a B in your bonnet with Lacey B. Que sera sera. Whatever will be will Lauren Sills be she gets an A from us It's Lindsey D. Let's give a Kisserino to Lisalino. Fresh as a daisy. It's Maisie McHenry.
Ronnie
Aren't you glad? It's Marianne Ahrens.
Ben
Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg.
Ronnie
This is living with Michelle Vivian I love Aya.
Ben
Olivia Williamson.
Ronnie
She sure is swell. It's Raquel.
Ben
Yes we can. It's Savannah.
Ronnie
Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge.
Ben
Darn Skippy, it's Tippy. And our super premium sponsors, she's vvip
Ronnie
It's Amanda V. Can I have a Kavanaugh? It's Anna Kavanaugh. Somebody get us 10cc's of Betsy MD
Ben
we're taking the gold with Brenda Silva.
Ronnie
Let's get real with Caitlin o'.
Andy Cohen
Neal.
Ben
Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Hogle your horses. It's Christine Hogle. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper can't have a meal without the Emily sides.
Ronnie
Who, what, why, where?
Ben
And.
Ronnie
And Gwen Pentland. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish. My favorite Murdo. Karen McMurdo.
Ben
She's a total knockout. It's Katie Manock.
Ronnie
Let's get Savage With Laura Wildman in the study with a candlestick. It's Leslie Peacock. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron. She's a whiz. It's Liz Sarthi, always killing it. It's Lola Al Kalani. Roger that. It's Marlas. Roger.
Ben
The incredible edible Matthew Sisters. She eases our woes. It's Melissa St. Rose. There's a chance of meatballs. It's Rebecca Cloud. She's our princess. It's Rebecca Prince.
Ronnie
Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska. She's the queen bee. It's Sarah Lemke.
Ben
We cannot tell a lie. It's Sarah.
Ronnie
Tell of son Shannon out of a can. And Anthony, please don't stop at solely. And pop. Let's take off with Tamla playing.
Ben
Strike a pose. It's Tori Rose. She ain't no shrinking violet Coutar. We love you guys.
Date: March 2, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode Focus: Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 Reunion Part 3
In this episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the first half of the Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP) Season 10 Reunion Part 3, titled "Sharin’ is Karen." The hosts deliver their signature mix of praise, mockery, and forensic Bravo sleuthing, unpacking reunion drama, cast alliances, and standout moments. Special attention goes to the bleeped-out bombshell, fan favorite Stacy, the latest in hosting and etiquette on RHOP trips, and the grand return of Karen Huger to the stage.
Memorable Moment:
The classic RHOP themes of hosting and social etiquette are front and center:
Calls for more focus on the men’s behavior during group events and Angel’s penchant for “silent circles.”
Karen discusses her sobriety journey, why she won’t claim the label “alcoholic,” and the nuance of Bravo “redemption arcs.”
Karen Huger: “I have a right to thrive and not say the Alphabet backwards just because someone wants to with me after I’ve taken a little stroll down the street to have a cocktail.” (40:24)
Discussion about betrayal, particularly between Karen and Wendy, referencing the infamous “shrine fight” and Wendy losing trust.
The hosts balance sharp-witted humor and genuine insight, blending pop-culture references, playful banter, and Bravo-obsessed speculation. Their commentary is warm but ruthless—firm but fair in their lampooning of cast behavior and Bravo production choices.
Ben and Ronnie’s recap covers all essential RHOP reunion drama, from missing receipts to shifting alliances and the quirks of Potomac etiquette. The tongue-in-cheek tone ensures you’ll be well-versed in the major events, cast relationships, and ongoing storylines—even if you missed the original Bravo broadcast.
End of Part 1 — Refer to the next episode for the continuation of the RHOP reunion recap!