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Watch what happens.
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Hello and welcome to Watch or Crap Ins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we just love to talk about. Okay, I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me for the grand opening of the new season of Southern Hospitality, it's Mr. Ronnie Caram. Hi Ronnie, how are you? Doing well in the.
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I don't know how the heck that happened, but I'm back. I'm back.
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He is back, everyone. We are so excited because Southern Hospitality had a tremendous premiere and if you're listening, chances are most of you listen. Watch the show. If you didn't, you really should watch it. It's so good. Before we get into that, we wrote a newsletter that just came out, a bonus newsletter. You guys know we've just recently launched a newsletter feature or relaunched one here at Crappins. It lives on Patreon. Everyone has access to it. You don't have to be a Patreon member, but obviously we love our Patreon members all but you know, all the more. But we did a newsletter about the crappies and what our experience was with it leading up to it. Etc. There's behind the scenes photos, there's video from rehearsal, all sorts of really cool stuff. So go check that out if you want to know more about that experience. And honestly, be sure to watch that replay. It's not going to be around much longer and once it's gone, it's gone. It was really a tremendous show. We had more guests than we've ever had before and we had guests from all walks of life. We had a backstreet Boys, Backstreet Boy guys. And we also had, like, people from the world of Bravo and all our podcasting friends. And again, a debt of gratitude to everyone who showed up for us on stage, who helped us put on this show. It was. It was such an undertaking, and we love seeing everyone, and it was great. All our podcast friends, you know, we have. We have to cycle them in and out every year. So this, this year's batch that we put up on stage, it was great to see some of some familiar faces again. But anyway, enough about that. The point is, go to watchgrappens.com and you will get access to all that. But definitely check that out. Also, bonus episodes. We got two this week, and they're both free. These are free bonus episodes. The first one is Rob has a podcast crossover where we talk about Traders and Survivor. Second one, we're recording right after this. We're so. I'm so excited about it, but I don't want to jinx it. I don't want to jinx any cancellations. So you guys just stay tuned. So that's coming up. And then all the usual stuff. Crap is on demand video, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm excited about it as well.
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Ronnie is excited, too. But I never want to speak for you. I never want to speak. What'd you just say?
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Just in case anyone's wondering.
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Just in case anyone's wondering.
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Just because you say I'm excited. Well, I mean, I'm excited. I don't want.
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Ronnie is not excited.
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Why wasn't Ronnie excited? Why was Ronnie pissed? Ronnie so and so coming on? Because then it makes me sound like an asshole. No, no. Just sitting, reading my text while you do your speech. Well, I do.
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I never. Listen, listen, you're not. Look, we are not Monolith, okay? But for real, we actually are both excited for it. But you know what else? Let's talk about Southern hospitality. Because this show is so good, and I feel like we always kind of. When it's on, we are like, the show is so good, and when it's off, it gets. It just sort of gets overshadowed by bigger shows like Summer House or the Valley or Salt Lake City or Miami, these big, flashy shows. But Southern hospitality is doing the work. We have not had a season premiere like this in quite some time. It was like every single inch of this hour was filled with, like, drama, you know, there was not. There were not any filler scenes here. It was like everything. It felt like it was bursting with activity. What did you think? Ronnie loved it.
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Absolutely. Loved it. I texted you when I was watching it, like, this is so good. I mean, it really, it really just starts off and I feel like a lot of times people think we're being like Andy when Andy's always like, oh my God, this season of Beverly Hills is amazing. As the kids would say, off the chain. And then it's a terrible season. We don't lie to you, okay? We only say that. We only gush when shit really is good and we want you to watch. And this shit was really. There's a lot of people to be mad at. There's a lot of. Everybody is kind of a fuck up on this show and they're all trying to get out of their fuck uppery in different ways. And it's just so funny to watch it, to me. And also they're all still working at the restaurant, which is crazy.
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Yeah. I think like one thing that's like really great with the show is the fact that since they're in Charleston, like they kind of can't cash in their fame the same way that the kids of Vanderpump Rules can by living in Los Angeles. You know, I kind of feel like they are still stuck being waiters. Like we're in la, they can go off and do cool LA things and ascend in that way. But like they're just like selling hot dogs and in from a cart in Charleston. Like that's still just where they are. And I think that's. That's what keeps them pure for us.
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Yeah, well, I mean, the Internet's global, you know, they still got their, their influencing and stuff like that. But I guess what you're saying their pool, their pool is smaller maybe. So whatever. Whatever is keeping them down. I say great, because during Vanderpump Rules, the old season, I would say we need some kind of a trust fund where they could only earn a certain money amount of money a year. And then the rest of the money they earned had to be put in a trust fund. So they would always be forced to work at the restaurant. And then once they were done, then they can get their money, you know, and so it couldn't ruin them until later. But it looks like we don't need that for this show because they're all still ruined. I would say maybe the only one who's like kind of getting out of that is Maddie, who's like, oh my God, I was just touring the whole country as a dj.
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I know that she was the only. I agree. She was the only one who sort of has Been able to break the Charleston loop. And I was trying to look at her tour because I. I want to see where she went. I've gotta find. I'm gonna pull up her touring poster because she definitely makes it sound like she went to, like, Ibiza and Coachella, and she may very well have. I just didn't look at the poster.
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Probably like you probably did.
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You say.
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I mean, she was on the. She was on a Las Vegas building last year. She does not forgot.
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But I also feel like she may have been doing, like, I don't know, like, some town in, like, Nebraska, which, by the way, a gig is a gig.
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I mean, we do. Who cares, you know?
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Yeah,
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I don't judge your money by the town it comes from, that's for sure.
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No, it's only because I'm Bravo. Like, I feel like I'm a little judger about those things, but I wouldn't.
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I'm judging about DJing in general, because I think some people have, like, a super. Like, they have a super talent for it, you know, and they're really good and they're really creative, and they do really cool mixes and creative things. But I think for a big part of it, it's not that. It's just people pressing play and then fading up and down into the next song and just kind of picking playlists and stuff and not doing anything creative with it. So I've never really seen her, so I don't know what side of that she lands on. But when they. When she was saying, oh, yeah, I've been touring, and they show the tour poster of all the different DJs, I thought, how long can DJ. How long can DJing last? Because, well, I don't think a lot of people put that much creativity into it. It's like you're really just going there to listen to somebody press play.
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Yeah, I'm looking at her tour. I'm looking at her tour right now. She did the Maddie and Tay Love and Light tour. She was in. She did London. London, Kentucky. I should articulate you and. You bastard.
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I was in Paris, Texas.
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Okay, so she went to Alabaster, Alabama. Wyandotte, Mississippi, Cumberland, Maryland. Port Riley, Kansas, Fort Moore, Georgia, Arnold's Park, Iowa. Lamar, Colorado, Buckeye, Arizona, Marion, Illinois. Worcester, Worcester, Mass. Okay. Morgantown, West Virginia.
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I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't know geography. So to me, I just see a lot of places that you went. So good for you. Okay, so we start make that money,
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make that money DJ Matav it doesn't matter where you go make that money.
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So we start with a super dramatic five months ago in New York at the reunion. Like here's something happened last night with Maddie. Well, he came to a hotel room. Yeah. We had to tell Maddie the truth. That the Trevor. Trevor never cheated with Sammy and that Brad made it all up. Now we're in the present day and Brad's like, at the reunion, I was exposed for lying about Maddie's ex boyfriend. Ch. Waiting on her. Back to the reunion. I don't know Israel anymore.
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It's like, it's. That was like I have forgotten about literally all of this and it was cracking me up. Like Maddie's. Maddie's existentials. Crisis on the watch. What happened? Stage they just like, I don't know what's real anymore. She was like in the Matrix. She was just completely gone and lost and confused. It was her brain shattering in half. It was wonderful
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last night to deflect off yourself, Amy. She's like, no, no, no, not at all. No, not, not at all, Andy. Not. Not at all. Deflecting us herself. Yes, it was. But who cares? I mean, that's so wrong. That's so wrong. You lied to this girl about her boyfriend cheating. She dumped the girl, ended up with Joe and now she's like, was Trevor my guy? Like, was. By the way, Joe knew this too.
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Yeah, I have to say that is so up. You up, Joe.
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You up, Joe.
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They all knew.
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And so now we're like, okay, well who are we going to be mad at this season? Because they all knew, so they're all guilty.
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And the funny thing was at the reunion, the thing was like, well, yeah, we did do this crazy cruel intentions manipulation to you, but we all knew all this time. And the fact that she brought up to you last night meant that she was trying to use you as a pawn. I was like, but, but this is so fucked up. It is so fucked up.
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So Brad is like, well, Emmy 100% deflected so that Will didn't have to answer for his own cheating allegations. Which is true. But Will didn't show up anyway, so he's not going to answer because he wasn't at that reunion. He was like, bye.
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Yeah.
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And then we go flashback. Flashback to last. Well, I think he's still at school, right? Oh, flashback to last summer at the finale party. And TJ's like, I know who you were cheating on her with. The one that took you to prom or the one that you took to prom. And Brad saying, people are saying, this girl stayed in your apartment, bro.
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And then Andy's like, will is backstage, but he's not in here because. And he's like, his mental health can't take it. His mental health was fine when he came up the elevator, and his mental health was okay to go the photo booth. It was okay to go to the dressing room, but he cannot go any farther into the studio. Andy, he cannot do it.
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By the way, that is also why he took the handicap parking out front. It is a disability, you guys.
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It is a disability. So Brad's like, I thought there was room for Emmy and me to rebuild a friendship. And then we see. Then we see at the reunion, Emmy's saying, I don't know where I am with TJ and Brad. I. I miss them. And Andy's like, well, that's a wrap. Wow. I don't even know who these kids were. I thought I was giving an after school tour and taking a picture and they can go back off to class, but apparently I was hosting a reunion.
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But I will take the rap to go because I've got children. I'm a dad. So then back to present, Brad's saying, well, after the reunion, we went back to the hotel, and TJ pipes in. Yeah, Brad and I, we're going up the elevator, and as soon as we get off the elevator door, we hear a loud voice coming through the wall. And it becomes more and more clear that this is Emmy talking. Girl, you heard that in the lobby, and you know it. Emmy like, oh, my God. Can you believe these motherfuckers?
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TJ is like. She's in her room with Will, and they're on the phone with her mom, and they're drinking a beverage. I could hear the beverage. Yeah, I could hear it. And also, she was, like, eating the mint that they left on her pillow. I heard it.
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I heard it.
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It's very loud. So she was on the phone with her mom. And then Molly tells us. And Amiev's room was right next to mine. And I could hear everything she was saying. Anyone in that zip code would have heard what she was saying. Then Brad's like, I have some notes. I wrote down some notes. We definitely played them. I fed Maddie that information to make anything Brad say, not reliable.
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That's funny and everything, but why don't you just record it? I can imagine Brad just trying to write really fast on his iPhone. You're right at the door. Anyway, just record this little typewriter.
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He's like, can we have a typewriter on level nine, please. Okay.
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She said they believed everything that I said out there about Will's mental health. She said, I. She said it so many times to make sure that you couldn't get in trouble for not showing up because it's a disability. Then I mentioned that you took the handicap space. I think that was a good. That was a good detail. And then they just all started laughing together like this. I could hear their heads. They were all thrown back. And she said, tj, Fuck, Brad. They're dead to me. Which apparently we weren't dead because we were standing right outside her door while Brad was taking notes furiously.
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And then Brad goes, It cuts so deep that I sent her a text and I said, lower your voice. You're dead to me too. Don't think we didn't hear everything that you just said. But what she did next, I don't think any of us would have predicted. She fluffed her pillow. I was outraged.
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None of us would have predicted. She gave birth. And the next thing we heard was a loud scream thumping on the door. And then the door broke down and an alien ran through the hallway, crashed through the elevator, and killed a service worker. Like, damn, you're right.
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Wow.
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I never would have guessed that.
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I did not guess that. Next thing that happened, you never would have guessed. She went to CVS and bought some tear proof mascara. Never would have expected that from Emmy.
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Then something completely unpredictable happened. She said, gorbachev, tear down that wall. And then started marching around the hallways and telling everyone she was Ronald Reagan.
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It's crazy. Then sparks came out of her chest and she started singing baby earifier work.
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Then she fucked the Prime Minister of Canada right there in the hallway.
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And then the alien came back and said, no, he's mine. And then killed the Prime Minister of Canada.
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He ate Justin Trudeau's head off. Sorry, Canada.
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He was mad, that alien. And then he said, take that mother.
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So we see the text or we see six months later and you know, clips of upcoming this season or whatever. And then I'm gonna skip that part.
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Yeah, yeah, we can skip coming up this season because it's. We're gonna get.
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So it starts with Emmy. She's like, since New York, I do not talk to TJ and Brad at all. And it's sad. And TJ was just like, you know, like my gay best friend. And, you know, Brad was like a big brother to me. And like, definitely I miss him, but it's like, show your true
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somatic. Comes in, she's like, hi. Hi. For the past few months, I haven't been around Republic because I've been on a 40 show plus tour, multiple cities a weekend. It was a lot. I am over airports, suitcases, buses. And I am so excited to be back in Charleston because it's like my comfy little sweatshirt.
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It's time for a commercial. It's time for a grapplings commercial. So Michael's starts the pre shift meeting and he's robotic as ever. He's like, happy Thursday, everybody shout out to Justin. So this past weekend, he had his first sale. So let's give Justin a round of applause for that. Other than that, any tables coming in I should know about? Anybody else? Anybody else?
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I mean, really?
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Really? I'm moving a doll's mouth with my hand, but nobody can see my lips moving.
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So I am going to stare at the staff without blinking. I mean, for the past six months, Joe has barely been here. And if I had a dollar for every time Joe didn't show up to work because he's been busy following Maddie on tour, I'd have a real tennis bracelet on as opposed to the cubic zirconia. Pause for laughter. Joke, Joke.
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It's funny Michaels. New funny Michaels this season, as you can see. Been working on that. So. All right, let's get set up for tonight, everybody. Hip hop, tip top, got time to lean, got time to clean, etc. Etc.
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Hey, hey, Brad, are you serving tonight? Are you hosting tonight? And Brad's like, I'm serving, baby. And he's like doing this thing that cuts limes into wedges. He keeps on, like, pushing it down. He looks like he's on one of those old timey train things where those two guys on a train track, they're pushing up and down, up and down, up and down to go down the tracks. But he's just doing it by himself. Just think about it, guys. That's a really funny image if you really think about it.
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I love this.
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Like a train, but with limes.
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Professional kitchens, really, you do step back in time in most of them because they don't have microwaves or anything like that. It's like manual contraptions. They still have to figure out, like, the manual contraption way to get things done. The onion one is the best one where you just get an onion, you shove it in there, you. You slam it down, boom, it's done.
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It's so good. Brings a tear to your eye. Get it? So then TJ is like, wow, you're so good at that, Brad. The Way you can, like, slice the limes with that lime contraption. He's like, yeah, I just pretend I'm on one of those old timey trains. Yeah, that's such a good way to do it. He was like, by the way, I've got a lot of experience doing this. Today I went on a long walk and I listened to that podcast again, and it got me fucking fired up. And for a moment, Ronnie, I kid you not, I thought, was it maybe our podcast? Of course it was. Nick Files.
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I was so jealous. I want to be on there. We need to start some shit.
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I know. Let's. Let's. Let's start with, okay, Maddie, get mad that I shaded your tour, because that was a really dick of me, and I know it was really dick of me, but get mad at me anyway, and then we can be in a flash.
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No, you can't plan it. We just have to naturally do it. This has to be natural then. Okay, naturally be an and hope that somebody gets mad.
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How about this, Maddie? Remember how I said on this podcast earlier after BravoCon, that we met your mom and she was like, the best, and she was so nice, and your mom sucks. Okay, Ronnie, we're on the show now.
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No, you're trying too hard. Although I did hook up with Maddie's mom. She was hot. I do not. I deny. I deny nothing. I regret nothing.
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Remember, Remember how nice Maddie was to us at Bravo Con? Well, it was a lie. She sucks. She's a cut fitness. Oh, my God. I hope she's fired up now. So fired up that she has to have a flashback to us.
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So we see a clip from the viol files from four months ago. Vile.
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Vile.
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I say vile, but I guess it's vile because it makes sense. Vile Files. Right? But now they say vial. I thought it was Nick. Vile. But now they say, I just go like this.
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I just go, wow, the Nick Mile.
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It's like Sheena announcing it. So four months ago. And Nick's like, you said evil. Do you actually think that any of your castmates are actually evil? And Will's like, yeah, I think Brad enjoys inflicting pain on others. And Emily, Emmy's like, yeah, he's so good at lying. He's like, so good at lying that he forgot the truth.
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Wow. So Brad's like, because I looked into seeing if Will cheated or not. I'm the villain in Emmy's story, and I think the thing that hurts the most is that this is coming from someone that I called a close friend. This is someone that I really, really loved and cared for. So for her to paint me out to be something that I'm not is, like, excruciating.
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Something you're not. You also did it with the other. With Maddie. What are you talking about? Somebody that you're. It's two relationships that you were coming for. One was a lie. Will's probably not a lie. That Will probably. I mean, well, yeah, Will's always.
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Brad doesn't lie. He lines. Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, lime crunches. So then Brad is like. It's infuriating. Like, I'm at work, and I have to, like, keep it PC and sit in the same room and then serve with. Serve with her on top of it. It's exhausting.
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So. So they start setting up, and Brad and Emmy just ignore each other. And then Jordan, a bartender, is getting into the mix. She's new, and she's like, have you Talked to Emmy, TJ? TJ's like, no. And I am. Good. Because hearing her through the wall at that hotel, like, running her mouth and then going on that podcast, I'm like, you didn't have to do all that. You did not have to do all that, but you did. Because Emmy went on that podcast, and she talked about the night that me and Joe shared a moment. And. And we see the flashback to Joe being like, well, I remember that, like, I slept in your bed. And she was sitting there insinuating that I took advantage of Joe when he was drunk and passed out, which is completely the opposite of what happened that night. And Emmy knows it.
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Yeah. And by the way, I love that they keep on saying that podcast instead of just thinking, I guess they can't say it or they just don't want to name it. So then we have a flashback to when Joe and. And TJ had that conversation about, like, the blurred lines in their relationship. And Joe.
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Joe specifically. Yeah. Oh, sorry.
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Yeah. He says, I was drunk and I touched you. So then TJ goes, it's hard to grasp the fact that one of my best friends went on a public stage basically calling me a predator. How would you feel if your best friend did that? Okay, it sucks, because I feel like the hole's deeper now. Jordan's like, wow, does that sound predatory? She was like, honestly, I just got here. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I'm not part of your cast. I'm just trying to serve actual drinks to these people.
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Okay, so Michael's passes. He's like, okay, work, work, work. Everybody, it is time to Work. Everybody needs to get to work. Lean, clean, okay? I don't want to go through the whole saying every single time. Okay, let's get to it, people. So the doors open, and all of the dress barn shoppers of Charleston start filing it.
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Leva is like, you guys are the best looking staff in the country. They're like, thanks, Leva. And then Emmy and Maddie are, like, putting the sign together in the back, you know, because, like, what's tonight's sign gonna be? What's Maddie? What's the sign gonna say? She goes, okay, wait, I kind of, like, need help. Because this girl who needs the sign, she's single and she wants something, so, like, maybe astrology. How about meet me in the stars? Like, oh, my God, Maddie, you're a genius. Like, you. Like, no one does a sign like
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DJ Maddie Reese, might I suggest he's gonna cheat on you anyway because you're in Charleston. Okay, just be. Just. Can I. Can I promote honesty and signs?
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Wait a second. She loves the stars, okay? She loves astrology. How about this for the sun in space? No one can hear you scream. Like, whoa, Maddie, that got real dark. Sorry. Sorry. It's been a tough year for me. I don't know who to trust me.
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Now we see another flashback to the reunion. Brad saying, I'm gonna do something that Will has been unable to do. I'm gonna take accountability, Maddie. And I'm sorry, Maddie. And so Brad's like, we're good. And Maddie's like, brad and I are not good at all. I mean, since the reunion, he hasn't tried to reach out to make amends. I don't even think he understands the magnitude of how much this hurt me.
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Yeah. Because Brad's whole thing is like, yeah, I felt really bad about lying and destroying their relationship, but, like, you know, I. I said sorry. And we see that, like, by the way, at the reading, he's like, by the way, I'm sorry about that. That was his apology.
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Yeah.
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So they. Here comes the sign. Like, space. Yeah. To infinity and beyond. Happy birthday. And they walk through, and Molly walks up to the front of the club, and she's like, oh. We realize Molly is no longer working here. And she comes up, and she's got, like, in front of all these girls, like, her backup dancer. She's like, hey, everyone, I'm Molly. I'm back. And this guy Justin's like, hey, I didn't think you were coming. She's like, I brought the girls. I'm not just talking about my boobs. Check out these foxes behind me. So then Lake sees her and was like, oh, my God. Why is this happening? And we're like, whoa, what. What happened with Molly? Why is she working there? Why is Lake upset?
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And Justin just lets him in. He's like, hi, I'm dirty Justin. I'm new on the cast, and I could use a good grooming. Get over there, ladies. You're all in. No cover. I don't think Bubba's gonna like that. I don't think she's gonna like it. So then Molly is telling us. Yeah. If you would have asked me a year ago, my life is where it is right now. I would cry, and I would laugh. I no longer work at Republic because I knew personal stuff about Michaels, and he used bullshit reasons to get me fired. I was like, personal things about Michaels? I didn't know there were personal things about Michaels. I didn't even know he was a person. I mean, I thought he just. I'm so glad. I'm so glad to know he's so robotic. Michael has a person. Michaels has a personal life. Yes. Tell me everything.
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He does sort of feel like an AI Rendering of a southern charm, Southern hospitality character. So, Mike. So Lake is like, Michaels. And Michael's like, girl, why are you not at the door? Come on. I'm a manager. Business. And Lake's like, guess who just walked in. Molly Moore. Michael's like, okay, well, I really. I don't really have anything to say. I don't really care. All I have to say is her check better clear. Thank you for coming and supporting local business. And Michaels is like, molly and I's friendship was fine up until her firing, and then all of a sudden, she's, like, going around talking about me saying that I cheated on my ex boyfriend and this and that and the third, and she got fired because she sucked at her job, and I somehow have something to do with it. Like, no.
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Yeah, well, I've never been written up, and I've never even had one comment made to me about anything bad. And Michael's is like, girl, I don't have that much power. And, like, says, oh, I don't like the way that she treated you. He's like, well, I'm just trying to finish the schedule, so sorry. I do not care. So I'll see you out there in a second. So whatever. So he just wants to avoid it. But now Molly wants to talk to ley Lake. So she's like, yeah, Lake was telling people that I ignored her outside of Republic the other day. So we're gonna have a talk about it.
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Let's get to the bottom of an ignore fight. So Lake's like, okay, Molly, here's what happened. I was, like, at the front door working, and then, like, she, like, walks by and, like, doesn't even acknowledge me. And this is like, that third time that this happens. And Maddie's like, oh, my God. I think there's a miscommunication happening. And I feel like you should just, like, go up to Molly and be like, what's our beef's like. But, like, why would I be friends with somebody that talks shit about my best friend, you know? Because between Michaels and Molly, obviously I'm choosing Michael's. I mean, Molly was my girl. Remember last year when we went shopping together? Together. Together, yeah.
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And then we see them shopping together. It's like, oh, my God, they went to Gwen's together, and now they don't speak. What is even happening in this world?
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Even after they tried on matching red dresses? Wow. 2026 takes no prisoners.
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Yeah. So Leva sees Molly and she's like, molly, I know shit got a little difficult over here for you, but, like, I wouldn't sweat it. You have so much potential. I mean, you, obviously, you're successful at whatever it is you're doing, which is mostly just wandering around the front of my club, as anybody can attest to as you've passed by it every single day, waiting for cameras to start rolling. So good for you. Just keep on doing that. Molly's. Yeah, still part of the family. Lev was like, yeah, I didn't say that. But you know, now that you did great. Let's hug. Let's hug. Please don't sue me. Thanks.
A
By the way, I just want to point out we're like, like 10 minutes into the show, and we still have not seen the Cloris Leachman waitress. And I'm gonna need her show up very soon.
B
She needs to still be on this cast or I'm gonna riot. It'll be a one person riot out there. I'll be like, bring back Cloris Leachman. Bring back Cloris Leachman.
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And we also need.
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What are we gonna put on the side today, guys?
A
And we need Leah, CEO. So then Leva says Molly has a full time day job as an event planner, and she was just switching shifts a lot, and eventually that's just gonna combust. But there's no bad blood. Although, you know, the kids always make it dramatic. So then cut to. Then we see. Oh, yeah, Ally from Vanderpump Rules is at the Front door. And we saw a bunch of cameos. Later, we saw Taylor from Southern Charm. We saw other Rod from. From Southern Charm. So, like, really? Wow.
B
Really mad. Of all the stars.
A
Yeah.
B
Huge, huge night for stars. Wait, it's that girl who dated James that time. Oh, my gosh. That. That. That lady who was trying to sell Capri Suns. The dumb chef that time.
A
That guy who ate salad.
B
Yeah, I didn't recognize that one. Who was that one?
A
Exactly. He was trying to date Olivia a few seasons ago. He was sort of, like, unremarkable.
B
Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't he the guy who's like, I got you gluten free bread. She's like, oh, my God, that is sour, Matak.
A
That is correct. So Molly is like, hey, can I pull you for a chat? Like, she really does the whole British accent. And, like, I'm at work. She's like, huh. Well, okay. Well, obviously, me and Michaels have had a falling out. And I think that there's a lot of. I don't know if it's miscommunication. I don't know if it's, like, shit talking. I don't know what it is. So I wanted to obviously come to you directly. And Molly's like. I mean, Lake is like, but you haven't talked to me. I'm not done. I'm talking to you now. Okay.
B
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow, Look. Getting a little spicy there, aren't we, Molly? And, like, it's like, yeah, but you walked by here twice, and you didn't even acknowledge me or Michael. She goes, this is not high school. And I did not ignore you, even if you thought that I did. So if you're crying over that, then you need to go back to kindergarten, where kindergarteners go to school. Because it's kindergarten. Because I did absolutely nothing wrong to you, and I didn't even think about it the next day. So do you want to. Do you want a fruit roll up? Little wah wah. Little wah, wah, wah.
A
Lake, I need you. We're at work. Okay. Come on. Are you good? Come on, Lake. What's going on over there?
B
She was screaming at me. So Michael was like, oh, my God. I know Molly did not come in here with good intentions. Like, baby, we should make you wait in general admission because you're a commoner now. A commoner. I mean, I've seen the rest of the people in this club. They're all commoners. I don't care what you people try to tell me. You can shoot them from any angle you want. That is an Anheuser Busch hat that I see in the background. So stop it.
A
Yeah. So Michaels comes back out of the restaurant. He goes right up to Molly's face, and she's right in the front of the line. He goes, oh, listen. You do not come in here and disrespect my staff. If you're going to act like that, I will ban you. Okay? Do you understand me? You will get bond. Walk away.
B
Walk away. Walk away. I will grab the cops. You better walk away.
A
Walk away.
B
Thank you. Have a good night. I'm not fucking around. I do not play Michael's no bad look bad. You're in front of a woman's face, and you're at work like, what the. What are you doing?
A
And honestly, like, it's not like, Molly's so great. And I. I have traditionally really adored Lake. But, like, Molly wasn't screaming. Molly was just being, you know, bratty. She was just had base level brattiness. That's it. So. And the only one really screaming was Michael, like, get away and go away. So then he comes back inside, and he's like, I'm not around. And love is like, are you okay? He's like, I'm not. I'm not. What's going on, sweetie? Molly was screaming in Lake's face outside the door. And I just, like, went up to her, and I just had to say something. She's like, shut up. Yeah. And I said, walk away. I will ban your ass. You do not get to come in here and disrespect my staff.
B
So outside, Molly is telling Brad, oh, my God. Michael's just came up to me and threatened to ban me. And, like, he said he's gonna call the cops. I mean, oh, my go. So inside, Michaels is still going off. He's like, I don't even care who you are. Like, I'm gonna yell at them. They will get banned. They will get banned.
A
And Brad, this. Brad's like, are you okay, Molly? She's like, no. Like, I'm seriously traumatized now. I'm like, okay.
B
He's like, well, you know why he's coming at you like that, right? And so she's like, yeah, well, Michaels is coming out and screaming at me is 100% abuse of power. I would. It was the same reason I was fired. Like, it was 110%, which is now up 10% from the previous 100% citation. I just made a personal vendetta from Michael's against me. Wow.
A
It was 100% abuse of power. And honestly, if you have to really, like, 10% above that. It was also a vendetta. Even more so if you looked at abuse of power, think like, imagine just a 10% larger situation than that. And that was the vendetta.
B
So then Leva has Michael's into the office, and isn't her office like, down the street or something? Or I remember her being like, I'm remodeling my office and it's a block away or something like that. So anyway, he has to trudge over there. And she's like, okay. He's like, oh, my God. Like, you used to work here. Like, if you're gonna come in here, she goes, just take a deep breath and sit down, please. I have no emotional capacity. Please just sit down. And he's like, well, I mean, she didn't tell me the exact words, but like, you talk shit about me and my ex. You're not gonna sit here and be like. Like, draggin through the mud. Like, that's not okay. Like, I don't. I don't like to let my emotions get the best of me. I don't even know that I have them. But this month is like, pent up emotions since my ex and I broke up because he was like, my first relationship and the breakup, it wasn't even that bad. But, like, we broke up and Molly was good friends with him, and, like, she just chose to be on his side.
A
Love is like, okay, I know that Molly has not been good to you as a friend as of late, but we're not in the business of banning, so make sure that you're running the business in the way that are. Do you need a hug? Are you okay? I got some Michaels.
B
He says it like, oh, like, do you need a hug? She's like, oh.
A
And he's covering his mouth and he starts going, I just do not feel uncomfortable.
B
I don't want to feel uncomfortable in the one place that I get a wall. Oh, my God. Sit down. Relax. Just sit down. Take a breath. Okay. Like, listen, your emotions are valid. I know you were close, but it's something like, okay, but you need to stop. Listen, I'm gonna be very frank, okay? You cannot have this job if you can't manage your temper. Like, don't up your job just because you let someone pull you off your cool. And then he immediately is like, completely dried. And he was like, okay, exactly, right? This is crazy. He went from being like, you're correct. Yes. Okay.
A
Command, alt, delete. She was high. She was like,
B
she's like, why are you wiping down the couch? Because I have time to lean, so I have time to clean. Happy to be here.
A
Well, now it's a new day, and we are at Maddie's house. Joe. Joe Bradley, you slept on my side of the bed. He's like, this is my side. No, it's not. No, it is, because the charger. So the charger's always my side.
B
It's like, this is my house, so I sleep on the side with the charger. The Joe really up, Joe. So now we go to Brad's, and he's doing a cold plunge. He's got, like, one of the, I guess, a. Like, a budget cold plunge. I didn't even know you could get these, because I've only seen them where people have, like, a full thing in their house. Of course, on Bravo, I don't know anyone in real life who does this nonsense, but on Bravo, they're very into the cold plunge. So he gets into, like, this little tiny tub. What does that do for you? A cold plunge? Have you ever done one?
A
No, but I think what it's supposed to do is the cold. I think, like, I believe as someone who does not follow this closely, I think it's like the blood. The blood flow is gonna, like, get really increased. Like, the blood is gonna rush to the inflamed areas, and that's. You know, the more blood that comes
B
through, the more reduce inflammation, alleviate sore muscles, boost mood, and improve circulation. I mean. Okay, it's not worth it. Okay, I say not worth it.
A
I'm like, no, I'm. I'm not gonna put myself into a giant garbage can full of ice cold water. And, like, I will just. I will let the inflammation go down on its own, right? Yeah.
B
Dear blood, don't circulate, because I'm not doing that.
A
So he is doing that. And now in a similar. In a parallel. In a scene of parallelism, Emmy is also in water, but she is floating in a sensory deprivation chamber. And the camera is, like, attached to the inside of this giant egg. And so when. Like, then Maddie's like, hey, hey, can I come in and join you? I'm like, it's supposed to be sensory deprivation, Maddie. And she's like, yeah, I'm coming in. I'm coming into the sensory deprivation chamber. It's like, okay, okay.
B
It's like, what is this even for? And then he's like, oh, my God. Taking salt baths calms all your senses. Look at me. I'm so calm right now. I can't Even take it. The water's, like, wiggling, coming over the edges, and then.
A
Then they, like, get in. And then, like, Maddie tastes the salt water. Disgusting. It's like, oh. Oh, my God. This is, like, literally salt water. It tastes like drugs.
B
Gross.
A
Really? Leaning into the sensory deprivation of this all. You're. You're screaming and you're tasting the water in the sense you're not supposed to taste things. Sensory deprivation.
B
I mean, it's like, oh, my God. It totally is supposed to calm your sensitive senses, which is hilarious, considering we couldn't have more overstimulating lives. I mean, waiters. Am I right?
A
My skin is feeling so soft. Stop feeling things. That's another sense you're engaging.
B
So Emmy is saying that, you know, she's. She thinks it works, but then she gets back into traffic, and she's like, come on, go. You get it. Get the. Out of my way. Die. She's like, so I don't. I don't know that this really works. It's like I'm just gaslighting myself. So then Maddie says that Joe would want her to go to sweat houses with her when they were dating, and she would always invite her friends because he didn't want him to get creepy.
A
Yeah. I mean, it's like, how are you
B
gonna marry that man? You know, I wouldn't be around him alone because I thought he was a creep. That's the man I want to have my children.
A
So how are you and Joe and everything like that? She's really good. It's just like, he's, like, ready to get a house and get married and have kids. I'm just like, marriage scares the out of me. The fact that people around me are even considering getting married, like, oh, my God, it gives me so much anxiety. Emmy's like, but, like, I'm getting married. It's like, ew, gross.
B
Oh.
A
Oh, sorry. Did I say that part out loud? No. I mean, I'm so happy for you because I know that's something you've always wanted. You've always had, like, a really low bar for what you want in life. Yeah. Like, it's just, like, not what I want.
B
Yeah. Like, you're getting married to someone that's going to continue to live like they're young and fuck around anyway, and that's what makes it fun, you know? But most people don't look at marriage like that, Emmy. It's like, oh, I guess that's a good point. So she's like, yeah, I'm still getting married, bitches. After countless attempts to, like, sabotage my relationship. So suck it. Here's my ring. Here's my ring. He liked it, so he should have put a ring on it. And he did. I've got a diamond Self worth. I've got self worth around my ring finger.
A
And then we see. We see, like, yeah, we see all these flashbacks of everyone trying to, like, trying to, you know, undermine them. So Emmy is like, can we look at history repeating itself and what Brad and TJ do they make up, stop fake cheating rumors and ruin our lives for game. They did it to me, and they did it to you. And Maddie's like, yeah, like, I went through hell after New York. She's like, I know. And we see the reunion again where Maddie is losing her mind, and she goes, it made me, like, physically sick. I started dealing with crippling anxiety. I was sitting in the hospital not knowing what the is wrong with me.
B
Yeah. I feel like if I worked hard to build myself up so I could let go of this resentment towards TJ And Brad, like, it's been a lot to let go of the resentment.
A
P.S.
B
i haven't let go of anything. Spoiler alert. So she's like, you know, at least you told me the truth and took accountability, Emmy. And then, you know, you and Will made amends towards me. You know, I mean, nobody makes a charcuterie tray like you. Am I right? But they haven't done anything. They haven't made ham into a. Into a rose and put it on a wooden tray. Nothing.
A
Thank you for seeing my art. Well, you know what? Will and I knew about it, and we weren't. You know, we were. I just want to say we were never involved in this lying scheme. And then flashback to two years ago of Emmy being totally involved and saying, well, you know what? History repeats itself. And Trevor's been a cheater once. Like, it's very expected that he would cheat again.
B
Yeah. She's like, I mean, it was like, Brad and tj. I mean, they were the ones that were, like, involved in it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I feel like TJ and Brad are, like, calculated. Like, they have whiteboards and, like, string attaching pictures and like that. Like, I know you're not, like, smart enough for that. No offense. And he's like, yeah, like, I'm a idiot. I'm too stupid to be evil.
A
All I can do is make my bed really nice and do a charcuterie board.
B
Okay.
A
The rest is for lawyers like Will.
B
So now it's boys night, guys. The boys like, oh, my God, look, everybody, we're boys. Like, like, complimenting each other's hair. And, you know, Joe's like, I wanted bigger hair so, like, my brain could look bigger. And they're like, you're wearing a bump it. What are you doing?
A
The pompadour.
B
He's got Johnny Weir hair.
A
I know he does. And Joe's. TJ is like, yeah, I mean, you gotta bump it in. He's like, you mean a pompadour? And Gigi goes, snooki. But I don't know. I don't know why he says, snooky. Snooky.
B
He says, are you like snooky? Because Snooki had a bump it it. Yeah, she had that lump it thing.
A
So Joe. Joe's like, I almost want to do this. He starts playing with his bangs. He just like, I love it. I love you. Did I say that part out loud? Oops. So Joe is like, yeah, this place is pretty nice. And they wind up basically going to a speakeasy. There's, like, a secret poker room. So, like, bros get going to this poker room. Bradley joins TJ. Is TJ's already there? TJ and Joe Michaels and the new guy. What's his name? Justin. So they all are in there, and Justin is like, whoa, oh, check out those guns on Bradley. And Bradley's like, yeah, I know. As wide as a mobile home. Let's go.
B
So Michaels is like, whoa, guys, I need a good day. Like, I've had a really shitty week.
A
Yeah.
B
Screaming in a girl's face. Yeah, you can't scream in a girl's face. Bradley's like, and I'm Bradley, and I'm telling you, you cannot scream in a girl's face. He's like, I know. TJ's like, well, I feel a lot of the anger, too, was like, you and Molly's issues and not just, like, the actual situation. He goes, yeah, yeah, we have a lot to discuss. You know, things that are bothering me. And Justin's like, yeah, stop yelling at people in front of Republic. So they all laugh and give him shit.
A
Boys night. Boys night.
B
Are we here for a boys night? Hey, are you straight, TJ for boys night?
A
Which feels like it could be offensive. And Michaels definitely has a look on his face like, and. But they all are, like, laughing. And so Joe's like, yeah, are you straight? And Justin's like, we're gonna find out. They're like, boys night. Boys night. Joe's like, the fucking gayer the better, right? And she's just like, oh, my God, stop it. And Justin goes. So now we find out about Justin. He's like, hey, I'm Justin. I have a love a bit of history with Charleston. Used to live down in Charleston. In 2019, I did my time in Boston, L.A. and Sydney, Australia. Took a lot of photos where I look really hot. But now here I am, just unkempt and messy in Charleston. I was at a crossroads in my life. I was in a relationship, a relationship that went south. So I said, fuck it. I'll go south too. And I got in contact with tj, my old friend, and I was like, do you guys have any of that salsa in store? Turns out I was not calling Trader Joe's. I actually just called tj and he said, come on, be in the show. And I said, sure. Here I am.
B
So I got some abs, and here I am. New abs and a new haircut. Sir, you need to groom. You look dirty. You look dirty. You look unkempt. You look terrible. And then they show pictures of him when he was, like, modeling for JCPenney or whatever. And he looks very cute. So I was like, somewhere?
A
Yeah, yeah, he's so hot in all his photos. But then on the show, he's just, like, totally unkempt and. And messy. I'm like, ugh, fix yourself just because we see your potential. So they really like it, and they like him and everything. And Brad's like, yeah, Justin's different than your typical Charleston guy. He's a little dirty. Looks like he hasn't showered in a day or two. I was like, well, that was the same as that guy last year, Austin. He also looked a bit unshowered. And he would go into the woods and, like, chop wood and eat meat. So.
B
Oh, yeah. What happened to that guy?
A
I don't know. And then the year before that, there was Oz. Austin. Austin o'.
B
Sheen.
A
Whatever. O'. Sheen. And he was also pretty dirty and gross. So I guess it's just like the dirt bag category that they have open every year.
B
They just cycle in a new dirt bag. So Michaels is like, well, I mean, Justin's attractive. You know, like, he would go from a Charleston 8 to a 10 if he grew groomed. And they're like, well, if he's a Charleston eight, what do you. He's like, baby, I'm in an 11.
A
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B
So Justin's like, whoa, guys, you want to hear something so funny? So I had, like, revealed to my mom, like, really personal about myself. So I'm sitting there crying, and I'm like, mom, I have to tell you something. And she's like, justin, we all know you're gay. He's like, oh, my God. How long have you been sitting on that? Mom, I'm not even gay. They all start cracking up.
A
Joe said. Then Joe relates, and he goes, my dad said the same thing. Like, when I was 4, I would, like, play dress up with, like, girls in preschool. And my dad was like, oh, he might be gay. But, like, I was like, no, I like chicks. But then when I was really good at artwork, my dad's like, all right, he might be gay then. And I was like, no, I just. I like chicks. And then one time he caught me having sex with a guy, and he's like, okay, I'm pretty sure you're gay. And I was like, no, bro, I love women, so it's just hilarious. My journey.
B
My dad thought it was gay just because he caught me giving a blow job to one of my friends who's. Crazed dads. Am I right?
A
That's. They never get it.
B
She's just like, see, I didn't start the rumor. Joe's dad did.
A
Brad's like, I thought this was boys night. Guys, come on. All this gay talk. All right, I got a toast for us. Okay. Is that door locked? Okay, here's. Here's the toast, okay? And, like, yeah, okay, let's start the toast. He goes, okay, but. And they're like, yeah, okay, do the toast, fart boy. And he's like, yeah, what can I say? I'm a gassy guy. I get my protein in, and then we have, like, a fart montage.
B
Protein farts. They show him, like, going up to the fridge in the restaurant and them opening the fridge door for him to fart into. Do you guys. Do you guys have a food. A food inspector over there.
A
You guys are in the hospitality business? It's in the title of your show. This is not right. Joe's like, I woken up rat Maddie with, like, my farts being loud. You know, like, when I think it's like, gonna be, like, a sneaky one.
B
My dad called me, and he was like, molly's, what's her buns? Maddie said, you have really loud farts. Are you gay? I was like, dad, stop calling me.
A
So to me at work, and she was like, joe's been eating so much. It smells so bad. And I'm like, joe, you gotta stop doing that or else you'll be banned. Sorry. I'm not allowed to yell at you anymore. Sorry.
B
So they're like, how are you and Maddie? And Joe says, we're good, dude. We had a really hard year, though. Like, honestly, like, it's boys night. I don't want to get into it. But, like, like, guys, like, I want to move past everything. And Brad's like, whoa, whoa, time out. Time out. What do you mean, get past it? Joe's like, well, like, it's just like, I've been with Maddie, like, what I've been through with her this year. Like, she's having, like, mental breakdowns. Like, that group text that you guys had, like, it, like, traumatized her. Like, she's had much. She's had it much harder than you think. No, I know that this is your four, I think. And, like, she's been having nervous breakdowns every year, but, like, this year has been, like, worse because of you guys. So what do you think about it?
A
Yeah, I want you guys to make amends and take accountability for it. And Brad's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Have we not made amends? Don't you remember at the reunion where I was like, hey, by the way, so sorry about that. Anywho, does she not remember that?
B
Did she not remember me shrugging and going, sorry?
A
You gotta admit, it was kind of funny in retrospect. She doesn't remember me saying that.
B
So Bradley's like, I thought we were good. Maddie grabbed me and said, hey, stop talking about the whole Trevor thing. And I want to drop it completely. Let's move on. We've texted. I mean, I texted her, congrats on 11 years of sobriety. I mean, I thought we were good, you know,
A
that broke her and her mental health. She's been to, like, eight different therapist offices. Admittedly, those were DJ gigs, but she still was in a therapist office. Brad's like, I understand that. And I'm not downplaying her health. I'm not downplaying her health whatsoever. Whatsoever. And just like. But when did it all happen? Right after the reunion. He's like, yeah, when Emmy and Will showed her everything. Those motherfuckers had printouts.
B
Yeah, those motherfuckers showed you text messages the night before the reunion. And what have we done? Nothing. Nothing. What could we even do? What could we even do?
A
I did back to nothing.
B
He's like, well, okay. A lot you want to say. You want to see the nasty things Will said about you? I can show you right now. I can show. Or does it need to be printed? Do I have to stop by a fetish X King coast for this to. For this to be decent evidence?
A
I don't give a. About Will. We're talking about our friendship. It's like, neither do I. But the point is, I didn't go behind anyone's back except to, like, vacuum a spot that was left a little bit dirty. God, I love to vacuum. Joe's like, stop the floating. Like, I don't understand why Joe is only coming after Brad and myself and not also Will and Emmy.
B
Yeah. And Brad's like, yeah. I mean, if she's having mental health issues, then why does Emmy get a passion when she used mental health as an excuse to get Will out of the reunion? If they care so much about mental health, what about that one?
A
Nailed them.
B
Nailed them on that one. And so we see another clip from the Volvo. And Nick's like, why didn't you just go to the reunion? And Will's like, because it was going to be a bloodbath.
A
What?
B
So it's not about mental health after all?
A
I think the point is it was gonna be a bloodbath, and he did not not have the mental capacity to deal with that. Not to give excuses for Will, because I still think he should have gone to the reunion. I think he out of that one. And I do think that he cheated. But it is funny that Brad and teacher are like, just because we made up an entire rumor that played on a national TV that broke up a relationship that you were pretty happy with. You're mad at us.
B
Get over it. God.
A
Yeah. I bought you a Sprite. I thought we were good.
B
So Brad's like, what do I need to do to make Madison Reese happy? He's like, well, I would love for you to respect me, guys. Like, maybe go up to her and make things right.
A
Okay, well, now we go to Michael's working out. I'm working out at the park. And look, and here comes Molly. Molly, let's have a conversation. And Molly's like, oh, my God. It's like seeing an ex. Yeah. Source subject. Why would you say that? She's like, yeah, so, yeah. Nice to See y'. All. Thanks for accepting my olive branch. She's like, yeah, I just. I think I'm just, like, really, like, hurt by you, you know, an old best friend screamed at my face. Do you remember that when you had your 125 vendetta? Yeah, the percentage went up. It's called interests.
B
He's like, I'm sorry. Like, I want you to know, like, I felt terrible about it after. Like, I've literally never, like, felt so blacked out. And, like, I was like, how did we get to this point? Point. Hold on. How do we get to this point?
A
I have to let that out.
B
She's like, I mean, the Preston situation, I'm not saying you someone else, but there were definitely lines that were crossed. He's like, yeah, but he can say the same for himself. And so she says that Mickel, the Michaels. I keep wanting to call him Mickels. That Michaels became famous and then suddenly was getting ass all over the place. People were throwing themselves at you. And. And it's common knowledge that Michaels was asking other dudes to make out at the restaurant and inviting people to come hang out with him at the wee hours of the morning. So he's saying, well, yeah, we broke up. We were gonna try and fix things. And I told myself, I'm single, so you're hot as fuck. So, like, come on, let's go. So I started texting new people, following guys on Insta, and he was doing the same, but she probably left all of that, got out, didn't tell you that part.
A
I've moved on. And it's clear as day that he's moved on, too, like everybody else should too. And, like, that one day I screamed at you. Like, that's how I felt in the moment. And which, by the way, that's my favorite thing when people do that. Like, it's okay that I screamed and was awful to you because that's how I felt in that moment.
B
That was the past me. That me died.
A
I was. And that I was being honest to myself. I always kept it professional, especially when I screamed at you in of front front of our club and told you I was going to call the police on you because you said something to Lake. So. But my patience and my peace is being tested so hard right now because for months I continually heard, like, oh, Molly said this about you. Oh, Molly said that about you. And guess what? My new phrase. Molly said this, that, and the third. You don't even want to know about the third, because I heard that you were saying the Third about me.
B
And Molly's like, well, yeah, okay, I'll take accountability because I talk mad on you. So sorry. And he's like, well, I'm in shock that she apologized, but, like, we used to be, like, best friends. Like, I would literally, like, trim her nose hairs.
A
I would trim this nose here, that nose here. And the third. And producer's like, wait, you trimmed her nose hair? He's like, y' all got the video if you want to see it. Like, no, thank you. We actually do have limits on this show, and that is one of them. So Molly's, like, moving into the bigger beast of being fired. I was, like, completely blindsided. It was, like, really hurtful. He's like, I know that you thought it was my fault, but, like, I don't have authority to hire or fire people, okay? I'm just, like, a hot person for the TV show and that's it.
B
And she goes, but you knew that it was coming. Okay, but even if he did, that's very different than you saying he got me fired because I was talking about him cheating on his boyfriend, you know? And Michaels is like, no, I didn't. Like, you didn't. I didn't find out till the morning of. She goes, yeah, but that's not what I've heard around town. But I guess I'll have to take Michael's word for it.
A
I don't think that Michael's got Molly fired. And I'm not saying that he did this or not, but, like, there is still the possibility that he was poisoning what, the waters. If he was angry at her, if he was like, like, yeah, Molly, she's just, like, not great. She's, like, not getting along with people. I don't really love her. She doesn't really have a good attitude these days. He could have been saying those things. I'm not saying that he actually did, but he's influence.
B
Love it just said that it was because she was working too much at her other job.
A
So, yeah, I mean, I believe level on this one, believe it or not, because if they were in real issue, Love, it was, like, totally chill with her. She's like, oh, hey, good to see you again. So I think it is like Leva says, I'm just saying Michael's out.
B
Although.
A
What? I would have no influence.
B
Although Love it did say that. But then they've also said that Joe never shows up to work anymore either, and he's still got his job, so who knows?
A
Yeah, how about that?
B
So then he goes. Molly's like, okay, I'll unblock you. And he's like, oh, my God, you blocked. To me. God, you're petty, bro. It's even. It's even more of a diss that you didn't even notice that you were blocked.
A
So, yeah, that's the thing.
B
Two hours until Sir Wieners one year anniversary party.
A
The amount of growth Sir Wieners has had, it's been insane to see that wiener grow. It was just so small. It looked like it was just one size, and now it has really. It has really grown. And it's. It's. It's been a. It's been a hard journey. But that wiener is now at its full length. One has to believe we do footlongs now.
B
It just evolved into what it is now a hot dog company with a merch brand. A hot dog company with a merch brand. It's been on shows. Yeah, go ahead.
A
On Eater magazine. Even though I think it's just a website, not a magazine. But that's okay. I like printouts and magazines. And I never imagined a revenge business named my after ex's penis would become
B
a huge empire because it sure wasn't a huge wiener. So he puts a cardboard cut out of Mia holding a hot dog because Mia can't be here today because she's in Hawaii with that hot boyfriend, Troy. So. Good for her.
A
Mia loves a late start to a season. She does.
B
She was. Wasn't she in Hawaii last year, too?
A
Last year she was like, you know, she was off doing, like, a beauty pageant. I feel like she's Hawaii.
B
Right. I thought it was. So I thought she was, like, doing Miss America or something in Hawaii.
A
Maybe it was. I don't remember. So. So that set up Grace, Lily shows up and she's gonna be a vendor. She's setting up a little tent with crystals. Because since leaving Republic, it's taken some time for me to, like, get back on my feet. And you're literally sitting down this entire scene. By the way, you're little. You're not even on your feet.
B
Yeah. You know, I did this. We see a clip. Sorry. She's like, I did an ayahuasca ceremony
A
and I saw Bob Marley and I told him. I was like, I love you, Bob. Like, I'm always gonna spread the message of cha.
B
Oh, my gosh. I didn't see that one coming. Just coughing myself.
A
Did you do ayahuasca just now?
B
Yeah, I've been doing ayahuasca over here. So now Grace Lilly has really decided to be responsible and settle down and Get a real job, guys. So here she is. She's like, yeah, I decided to do, like, tarot cards because they've been a thing for me for some time now. So, yeah, look, I was doing it for my cat. With the clip of her doing tarot cards for her cat, Grace Lily. The least surprising news of this year was Grace Lilly, like, getting pulled over for driving on crack or whatever the hell happened over there. I mean, God bless her heart.
A
Yeah, God bless her. I hope she's okay. So now she's doing it. She's setting up her thing. She's like, this looks good. And she sets up crystals. And TJ is like, I love it. I mean, I don't know what any of it means, but it's great. And I'm glad you set up a tent in the middle of my hot dog event. That's wonderful. We just wanted to come and enjoy.
B
I just had this minister that was doing my nails before I came here, and he was telling me that I shouldn't do it because it's a sin in the Bible. And the producer's like, wait, your minister was doing your nails? She goes, no, it's not my minister. It was just a minister at a nail salon. But I want TJ to sparkle. That's what I want. A minister at a nail salon.
A
You said the minister was doing your nails. You said it. No, it was just a minister at a nail salon. Honestly, it wasn't even a minister. I think it was just some girl from next door anyway. But I want TJ to sparkle, and I think he wants me to sparkle, so we're just gonna shine together.
B
So she shuffles her deck, and she's like, okay, guys, looks like we're gonna have some good luck today. Okay, here's your hundred dollars, you fucking weirdo.
A
No hot dogs and a reading.
B
If any of your friends come to you in their 30s or late 20s and say, Guys, I found my purpose. I'm gonna be a tarot card reader. They're in trouble. Get them help. Help them. That's a cry for help out.
A
So now we see Maddie and Joe, and they're driving on the way to this event, and Maddie's going through it, and Joe's like, what's wrong? She's like, joe, I'm trying my best to control my anger problems, but. And I'm just, like, literally praying to the gods that I'm professional tonight. Like, do you know how hard it is to serve hot dogs when you're angry at someone?
B
Oh, I was looking in the serving hot dogs professional manual. And just, like, brushing upon all the rules because, like, it's super important in the hot dog delegation to be super professional whenever you've got a dog in your hand.
A
After Joe told me that Brad and TJ were being so combative and refused to apologize at boys night, I want to cut their dicks off, put it between the buns, and serve it, period. Oh, God. Hot dog rage coming through.
B
You're working, Maddie. You're working. Hot dogs respect the hot dog.
A
I'm trying to resolve my resentment towards TJ and Brad and Mia, but it's hard not to be, like, angry because, like, I just hope I don't pop the off at the hot dog events.
B
So love it. Comes in into the event. She's like, wow, it's like a vibe in here. You've got, like, baby teas. Wow. Like, I want one. I won't lie. Like, I was skeptical about TJ's hot dog idea. Like, I'm so proud that he's come into a success us, but, like, who knew hot dogs would be so good for business? He did. That's who TJ knew.
A
He's like, well, we have the debut of a new hot dog today, which is the flaming hot Cheetos and wiener sauce. So it's gonna be. We see that it's called the cheater wiener because it's like, the idea is that you can cheat on your diet as Cheetos. So cheater. It's the cheater wiener. But some people see something a little more in that name name.
B
It's the Will wiener. So Maddie comes in, she says, oh, my God. What the. A cheater wiener? Are you serious?
A
Yeah, it's about cheating on your diet. Love is like, that's hilarious. But backstage, Maddie's like, they're bullies coming up with, like, a wiener about cheating. That's, like, so wrong. Like, why can't you learn how to stay out of your out of grown folks business? God. Oh, cheater wiener.
B
He's like, listen, it speaks more about, like, how interesting their lives are, okay? Like, if this is what they're still hyper fixating on. I mean, like, wait. Like, I mean, I'm just. Whatever. Like, I don't even care. Like, it's not even bothering me. Like, whatever.
A
Yeah, everything's fine. Like, I'm totally not bothered by this wiener whatsoever. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Maddie's like, TJ has named every single one of his hot dogs after someone in this group.
B
Group.
A
So who in this group is the cheater then? Other than Will?
B
Yeah, they're getting married. You guys can't do that. Like, that's not funny. Okay, so, I mean, he's like, yeah, it's middle school. Whatever. They attack my relationship. They attack me, but they're not going to control me. I'm Emmy. I'm, like, totally in control.
A
Look.
B
Look at me. I'm so in control right now. You guys are not gonna see the old. I mean, like, losing her mind anymore. I'm in control of myself now.
A
This. This tiny hot dog with a flag in it that says cheater is not gonna control me. That's for sure. Everyone, I am fully unbothered by a tiny hot dog. Guys, they are totally right. This little flag that says cheater in the hot dog is destroying them. And they're like, I'm fine. I'm so unbothered. I'm not. I don't care about this hot dog that says cheater on it. No way.
B
So then we go to Lake, getting her cards read by Grace. Grace. And Grace goes, oh, my God. Did something hit you out of the blue recently? Did it hurt? Oh, my gosh.
A
Lake's like, I don't. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, something did. And then we have a flashback to her and Molly having a heated conversation, because that's what got her out of the blue. Grace goes, well, I think there's an apology coming through. It's an apology mainly from a minister at a nail salon. They're probably gonna apologize to you soon, so get ready for that.
B
So Joe sees the guys, Justin and Brad, they're talking about the doozy of a boys night they had. And Brad's like, yeah, doozy is the way to describe it. So I'm gonna talk to Maddie just like, oh, my God, thank you. That would be great. Like, night therapies. Like, I can't afford a night. I cannot afford a night therapist. Okay, so we see that Maddie is. Is going to be working, so it'll have to wait for a little bit. And it just cuts to Grace going, never stressed, always blessed. It's in the card. You got two hot. You got a two of hot dogs and a three of buns. You're compatible with yourself.
A
So then we see Brad has a girlfriend named Julia. Oh, Brad and Julia. Who was those? Ocean's loving Carl Radke with a commentary. And Brad's like, my Playboy days are now behind me because I found a girl that makes me the happiest guy in the world. Julia And I have been together almost a year, and I met her when we worked at the same gym. And the second I saw her, I knew that this girl and that I really wanted to be with. I mean, ironically, I have to thank Emmy. So, yeah, guys, his playboy days are gone. He's definitely not gonna cheat. This is totally, totally firm. A relationship that's on Tara. Firmer firma.
B
Totally different now. So Emmy is like, oh, my God, I can't believe I have to work this. What a pain in the ass. Like, you're not gonna catch me carrying that tray. You want me to carry napkins or something? And Maddie's like, okay, you can carry my napkins. So they start walking around, and then Taylor comes in, and she's like, oh, my God, I'm so proud of you. It's like, stop looking around for the T, the cameras. Taylor, you're not on here.
A
Yeah, seriously. So TJ is like, okay, everyone, first round's gonna come out in a second. Here come the hot dogs. Who's excited to try the debut of the cheater wiener? So here comes Maddie. She's got, like, this little tray of wiener. She's like, like one of those 1920s nightclub cigarette waitresses with the trays, except she has hot dogs. She's like, okay, everyone is a cheater wiener. I fucking hate wieners. They're gross. They're stupid. It probably has salmonella. Do anyone want to get sick tomorrow and have a cheater wiener? Have a wiener.
B
So funny. And the guests don't even notice. They're like, sure, we'll have one. Sounds great. Oh, my God, these are delicious. And someone says, what kind are they? She goes, oh, my God, this is flaming hot Cheetos with poison and wiener sauce. Probably boogers on it, too. It's disgusting. And the Gus is like, looks yummy. She goes, it's not
A
like. She's like, sorry. Yeah, I never knew that this would be my job.
B
Gross.
A
It's just not that good, guys. Don't try it. And TJ's watching, like, ew, ew. Oh, my God. I can't believe she would do that to my hot dog.
B
Yeah. So Maddie's like, here, you want a hot dog? It's not very good.
A
Sabotaging it.
B
And they make me as cardboard. Cut out talk. It's like, maddie, this is not the new information, please, like, the memory, you know? She's like, it is to me. I found out last night. But I'm saying she did this last night on purpose is what. Stop being mad at Stop. Stop being mad at the boys. And then she just takes me as cardboard cut out and kicks it to the ground.
A
Yeah, that showed, Mia.
B
And we just hear someone go, well, guess her beta blocker's not working.
A
Are you guys gonna have a wiener? Come on, guys. Eat the last of this shit dogs that I'm carrying around. And you know what?
B
Call out of work if you have such a problem working the event. I mean, have diarrhea or something. Something like, Christ, I will after I eat one of these wieners.
A
Maddie's trying to make this day about herself. But Maddie's not ruining my event. She's only making herself look bad.
B
Everyone knows the wieners suck. Sorry, Ben. Go ahead. I thought you were done.
A
Don't make me call the cops. Remember when Michael said that to you, Molly? Wasn't that so funny? So then Grace is now reading Julia and Brad's card. She's like, okay, you know what this card is? This is the sex card. Look, there's a picture of Oshina on it being naked in Tulum. Isn't that amazing?
B
Now, as someone who used to read these in high school, I do not remember there being a sex card.
A
But I love that.
B
She's like, why is the sex card. Yeah, look at it. So good. So Brad's like, well, what does that mean? She goes, it means y' all are
A
sorry. I'm new with this. So now, Grace Lily reading cards is
B
absolutely the best thing that's happened to Grace Lily.
A
Changes my mind.
B
She's so funny. My God. This one is a drive through. You're gonna go through a drive through later? You better tell me to do it.
A
You lost your spoon, by the way. It's gonna fall off the table at the restaurant. So just get ready for that moment.
B
I sense some confusion. What is a spork? I agree with you. The spoon or fork? Nobody knows.
A
Oh, don't guess. What? There's a sport card. Everything's solved.
B
So congratulates TJ on one year. And he's like, well, thank you. You know, it's crazy. It's been one year. Please buy merch. So I'm not broke. Yeah, Next year we're gonna be a brick and mortar. Brick and mortar. Oh, it's catching on like wildfire. Started here first. Started here. Wow.
A
Brick and mortar. Hot dog. Brick and mortar. Somali's like, oh, my God. And so TJ is like, guys, there's gonna be an after party. You want to come to the after party? Come to the after party. Come the after party. It's gonna be fun. They'll be a wet T shirt contest. Kidding. And so everyone's like, yeah, I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be there. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
So Joe's like, hey, Maddie, I think we should go to the after party. She's like, no, Joe, I'm not going. Why would I want to go to this after party, okay? I'm already barely surviving being near those wieners. He's like, because all of our friends are going. Like, listen to me. Hey, let's hear closure. Give them an opportunity to apologize and make amends. No, Joe. If they want to talk to me, here I am. They can talk to me now. Hey. Hey. Hi. Listen, no, I'm here. I'm not gonna beg for an apology or beg for accountability. That's stupid, Joe.
B
So Emmy got a cute hot dog drawing of her and Maddie. She's like, I mean, our hot dog thing's ready, so that's cool. Joe's like, see? It's not a total loss. We just got free art.
A
I love that they are so mad at tj and they're so mad. Stupid cheater hot dog. This is stupid. But we can get a hot dog caricature. So that's.
B
Let's get our hot dog. Let's get our hot dog
A
above getting a free service.
B
Yeah. So TJ's like, I know you didn't want to work, but I appreciate you coming. So Maddie's like, I mean, we're. So. We're happy to support you, but, like, there's, like, a lot of times where, like, we were around each other and, like, there was so much opportunity to tell me about things that you, like, conspired with Brad and Mia about. And he's like. And Brad's like, what? She goes, how am I involved? Just the knowledge of knowing. She goes, like, in the group chat, like, the knowledge of not. Of knowing and not saying, okay, you're mad, but Joe is also in that group chat. I think that everyone's forgetting this.
A
Yeah. So Maddie's like, okay, so, like, I wasn't friends with Emmy. Remember? She was the fucking bitch last year. I wasn't friends with her. And then tj, we were friends, and we hung out. And same with you, Brad. We were all friends. I'm just confused why it's coming up again. Because I thought that we diminished that. That. Which is not maybe the right use of diminish, but I'm gonna use it anyway.
B
I'm a hot dog seller. And just like, well, because we haven't Talked. And she. And she's gone through hell this year, you guys. Like, it's been terrible. It's been like she actually woke up this morning thinking she was supposed to be sleeping on the side of the Charger.
A
Literally, everything's upside. Upside down. Yeah. And, like, my phone has been, like, at 33, and it's, like, stressing me the out because of what. What Joe did last night. But, like, when did we talk to diminish anything? We never talked about that. Okay. After the reunion, we were all out. Okay.
B
And.
A
And Brad's like, wait a second. Hey, everyone. I heard my name. Yeah, well, Brad, she's bringing up what happened last year. Oh, really? I didn't even know you were upset with me. Like, this is new to me.
B
So she's like, okay, you were accountable. That was great. But, like, then you're, like, really combative to Jord towards Joe at boys Night. And, like, you asked him about having a pump, and, like, are you serious? He's a man. If he wants to wear a pump, it. That's up to him. And Brad's like, he wants me to give you another apology. What the fuck? Yeah, but you both had apology. You both had opportunities to tell me, and you need to wait until there's a bunch of dicks and buns to tell me. I mean, that's just not cool. And this would be different if you came to me and you came to me, but instead Emmy came to me. And Brad's like, oh, my God, stop yelling. Why are you yelling? And now Julia, Brad's boyfriend, comes up. She goes, what is the issue? Because when after the reunion, like, literally, you, like, walked up to Brett and Maddie's like, oh, duh, duh, duh, duh. Oh, my God. Could you date someone who could learn their lines? What the.
A
Are you kidding? This girl wasn't even born yet when I was dating Trevor. Like, she wasn't even born. Like, I think she had her first period when I was dating Trevor. It's rare that you see Bravo stars. Like, making fun of someone for being too young normally goes the other way. Like, what are you, old? So she's like, yeah, you walked up with Bradley and you said, let's squash the beef. That never happened. Yes, you did. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. That never happened.
B
And Julie is like, but then how come when you saw us, then. Then you were. You were gonna act all friendly? Then she's like, I found out about this four hours before the reunion now. So TJ's like, well, you still showed up.
A
Yeah, bitch. So did you. Guys, guys, guys. This conversation's, like, getting a little heated. Brad's like, you're not making any sense. You backtrack everything you're saying. Yeah, you do. You spin and deflect. Instead of being like, I fucked up. I did something wrong. Okay? Because you fucked up, Brad. You fucked up.
B
So then, baby, TJ's like, oh, really? Well, baby, I could ruin your fucking gear if I showed you the mean shit they said about you in the group chat. She's like, do it then. Because we weren't even in a good place. Place. But we were in a good place. What are you not understanding? Like, you guys were my friends, but they weren't my friends, were we?
A
I don't know if we were ever in a good place, babe. You lie. You lie. You can go yourself. You lie. And then Joe's like. Like, hey, Maddie. Maddie, calm down.
B
Maddie's not coming at him. She's like, I'm gonna kick your ass. Joe's like, no, no, babe.
A
No, babe. I'll let you sleep with the charger tonight. On the charger side. Come on, come on. Come down, babe. Come on. Come on. Maddie. No. Maddie Reese. No.
B
And that's. That. That was a good one.
A
Oh, it was great. So wonderful.
B
Yeah. You know, a lot of times it's like, oh, my God, why are you still fighting about last season stuff? But the last season stuff was really good, and it just dropped at the reunion, so, yeah, love it. And they're so good at just, like, holding off for five months. They're like, well, yeah, I'll fight about it in five months.
A
It's fabulous. Well, everyone, thank you so much for being here. We love you all. And we will catch you on the next episode of Watch what Crap ins. Bye, everyone.
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Release Date: March 5, 2026
In this episode, Ben and Ronnie recap and mercilessly roast the Season 4 premiere of Southern Hospitality, “Weiner Takes All.” They praise the episode’s density of drama, dissect the tangled relationships among the staff of Republic in Charleston, and revel in Bravo’s latest batch of chaos. From DJ tours in obscure towns to cold plunges and “cheater wieners,” the hosts deliver a fast-paced, incisive, and hilarious breakdown while staying true to their “mock because we love” ethos.
On Bravo Fame and Delusion:
“I never want to speak for you. We are not a monolith, okay?” – Ben (03:59)
On Maddie’s DJing:
“She did London. London, Kentucky.” – Ben (08:29)
“I was in Paris, Texas.” – Ronnie (08:46)
On Kitchens and Manual Labor:
“Professional kitchens, really, you do step back in time in most of them… they still have to figure out, like, the manual contraption way to get things done.” – Ronnie (18:55)
On Confrontation:
“You do not come in here and disrespect my staff. If you're going to act like that, I will ban you!” – Michaels (33:02)
On Sleep Sides and Mental Health:
“She’s been having nervous breakdowns every year, but this year has been, like, worse because of you guys.” – Joe (51:16)
Bravo Nonsense At Its Best:
“Serving hot dogs professional manual: it’s super important in the hot dog delegation to be super professional whenever you’ve got a dog in your hand.” – Ben (63:02)
If you missed Southern Hospitality’s S4 premiere, this recap will catch you up on every messy subplot, searing side-eye, and cocktail-fueled confrontation. Ben and Ronnie make the drama accessible, highlight the ridiculousness, and promise that if “hot dog therapy” and “cheater wieners” are any indication, it’s going to be a banner season for Bravo’s southern up-and-comers.
No need to catch up on Bravo — these two did it for you.