#3249 RHOBH S15E12: Florence and the Meh-chine

Summary

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Watch What Crappens, Ep. #3249

RHOBH S15E12: "Florence and the Meh-chine"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: March 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie bring their signature mix of snark, affection, and Bravo obsession to their recap of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15, Episode 12. The theme: the Housewives prepare (with varying levels of enthusiasm and competence) to embark on a trip to Italy, while ongoing tensions and petty grievances simmer back in Beverly Hills. The hosts mock the lack of drama so far this season, but savor every character quirk—from Amanda’s flexing wealth to Dorit’s chronic lateness—and celebrate the show’s comedic value in the recapping world.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. General Season Shade & Setting Up the Episode

• The hosts agree this “slow” season works better for recappers than actual viewers.
  • Ben (05:57): “It’s great for us as recappers, I think, because we just make fun of it … It’s a little dull.”
• They humorously liken the drama arc to “a fart that has dissipated … now it’s just them lazing about.”
• Recap opens with Rachel’s son returning from France and gifting her an Hermès bangle, which triggers a riff about rich kid shopping and relatable parent gifts.
  • Ronnie (06:23): “There’s never just one fart. … Let’s have a farty party!"

Timestamp: 05:32–07:30

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2. Bravo-Land Offshoots & Bonus Content

• Ben and Ronnie catch listeners up on their busy week:
  • Recent interviews (Candace Dillard Bassett, Rob Sasorino)
  • The “Crappies” live event and available replay
  • Plug for their newsletter and Patreon
• They maintain their playful, self-referential style, often breaking to plug their own bonus content.

Timestamp: 03:24–05:32

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3. Housewives Vignettes Around Beverly Hills

• Rachel’s House:
  • The $400 Hermès gift from her son provokes laughter (“I’m done. I am done. … No one deserves your sky.” – Ronnie, 07:01)
• Med Spa Segment:
  • The “Beauty Sandwich” spa’s ridiculous name is mercilessly mocked.
    • Ronnie (09:05): “Fuck off. … It’s like, ha ha, look at what rich people have: facial sandwiches.”
  • Hosts lampoon “non-invasive,” “no needles” facial treatments.
• Sutton’s TV Cart:
  • Sutton’s rolling TV cart (“definitely someone who shops on Facebook”) leads to an extended riff about rich people and their aversion to visible TVs.
  • Sutton’s life with “Junebug” the dog and endless cats is lovingly derided.

Timestamp: 06:45–13:34

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4. Conversations, Facials, and Pseudo-Wellness

• Dorit & Bose:
  • Dorit brags about Hamptons parties while Bose is desperate to get to the “gossip.”
• Kyle & Amanda’s Coffee:
  • The two outdo each other with wellness one-upmanship:
    • Amanda claims she gets three “very active facials” a month, which Kyle dryly calls out as the season’s most dubious claim.
      • Ben (14:35): “This is Kyle’s first clue that Amanda’s full of shit.”
  • Amanda’s “ceremonial grade coffee” and red heels get more playful jabs.
    • Ben (19:24): “You can’t heal unless you expose the heel. So the heel is out, but the toe is in, guys.”

Timestamp: 13:34–19:49

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5. The Dorit Concern-Trolling Spiral

• Bose delivers gossip: Kyle is “worried” about Dorit’s late, erratic behavior and conspicuous shopping—possible signs of instability.
• Dorit claps back: believes Kyle is a “queen of concern trolling” rather than a real friend.
  • Ronnie (20:34): “She’s taking things you do normally and … trying to use it as an excuse to get you imprisoned.”
  • Recap of Dorit’s history of lateness and scatterbrained-ness—“She’s always been an idiot. … This is just unfortunately the way Dorit has always been.” (Ben, 22:45)
• Comparisons with Kyle’s behavior:
  • How drastic personal changes among the cast are parsed as red flags (with a humorous aside about lesbian “five minute” phases).

Timestamp: 19:49–27:26

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6. Amanda Wedding Planning, Bragging, & More Wealth Flexing

• Mom Car & Wedding Planning:
  • Amanda boasts about owning “so many cars,” buying out every hotel in Santa Ynez, and has no budget for her wedding.
    • Ronnie (39:12): “My husband may be poor, but I’m not.”
• Vibe Checks, Chair Selection:
  • Amanda insists she’s “decisive because I’m rich,” and is hilariously derided by the hosts and her wedding planner.
  • Wedding budget conversation reveals: Amanda will “pay for it all” because she “makes Eddie’s annual salary in a month.”
    • Ben (44:27): “He’s basically barely even a man with $15 mowing lawns for LA. Am I right, guys?”
• Helicopter Entrance:
  • Amanda wants to arrive by helicopter (despite Eddie’s wish to ride a horse; Amanda mocks Eddie’s “poorness”).
    • Ronnie (46:18): “How is this man marrying her? … Is it worth it? She’s so horrible to this man.”

Timestamp: 37:15–47:14

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7. Trip Prep: Packing, Airports, and Chaotic Group Travel

• Pre-trip Packing:
  • Italian designers are “mandatory” for the Housewives, and Amanda/Sutton room assignment antics begin.
  • Classic travel chaos:
    • Dorit predictably lateness (“She arrives 55 minutes before departure—actually really good for her.” – Ronnie, 56:40)
    • Kathy Hilton chaos (“traveling with Kathy is like herding kittens” – Jennifer)
    • The luxury of having fondue in Switzerland during a layover.
• Villa Arrival:
  • The hosts delight in the juxtaposition of opulent rooms vs. Sutton & Amanda’s “nun prison” twin beds.
    • Ronnie (59:53): “It’s like a set where nuns stay.”

Timestamp: 52:18–63:16

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8. Sutton and Amanda’s Roommate Summit

• Sutton reveals she purposefully roomed with Amanda “to be fully annoyed…get some crazy shit [she] can bring to the group.”
• Amanda tries to explain her side of her conflict with Dorit, but Sutton steamrolls with tough love, informing Amanda to “own who you are, because you need to be strong, upfront, and truthful to Dorit. Otherwise, she’ll rip your head off.”
  • Sutton (64:41): “Amanda needs to find her voice—and not the one you used when you were five.”
• Ends with Amanda feeling she doesn't have space to speak and Sutton seemingly satisfied that Amanda will be the next useful flashpoint.

Timestamp: 61:09–65:02

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “There’s never just one fart. Okay, so let’s just keep it going. Let’s have a farty party.” — Ronnie (06:20)
• “Facials are on fleek, so.” — Ben (15:14), lampooning Amanda’s wellness flexing
• “Non-invasive, no needles, no lasers? … What am I here for, your prayers?” — Ronnie on “The Beauty Sandwich” spa (10:29)
• “She’s always been an idiot. … This is just unfortunately the way Dorit has always been.” — Ben (22:45)
• “Traveling with Kathy [Hilton] is like herding kittens.” — Jennifer (55:30)
• “It’s like a set where nuns stay … you’re looking at a bedroom in an abbey on Sound of Music.” — Ronnie (59:53), on the worst room assignment
• Sutton: “Amanda needs to find her voice—and not the one you used when you were five.” (64:41)
• Wedding budget chaos:
  • Amanda: “I don’t actually have a budget. … There’s nothing he would say to not spend my money, okay?” (43:51)
• Helicopter plan:
  • Amanda: “I thought it was such a fun idea. Like, there’s a helicopter. Wait, the helicopter’s landing. Holy—the bride is on the helicopter!” (47:14)
  • Ronnie: “Tell your horse to get a job.”

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Important Timestamps

• 05:32 – 07:30: Opening shade on season pacing and “fart” metaphors
• 13:34 – 19:49: Amanda and Kyle’s coffee/wellness chat, red heels, ceremonial coffee
• 19:49 – 27:26: Dorit concern-trolling and late drama
• 37:15 – 47:14: Amanda’s opulent wedding planning, budget flex, helicopter entrance debate
• 52:18 – 59:53: Packing, airport chaos and the “nun prison” villa room
• 61:09 – 65:02: Sutton & Amanda’s twin room confrontation

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Tone and Style

Ben and Ronnie’s banter is razor-sharp, self-deprecating, and filled with pop culture references. Their affectionate mockery is never mean-spirited but always incisive, with punchlines about housewife privilege, manufactured drama, and the ridiculousness of luxury wellness trends. They use classic recap humor—voice impressions, faux-concern, and exaggeration—which amplifies the comedy of the (otherwise slow) Bravo content.

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Best for Listeners Who...

• Want a thorough, hilarious breakdown of RHOBH’s group dynamics and smaller moments
• Appreciate witty, quotable observations and running jokes about Housewives wealth and neuroses
• Crave inside-baseball recapping and bonus gossip about Bravo-adjacent projects

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Transcript

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Watch what happens. Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappin, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Manur. Joining me, Ronnie Caram. How are you, Ronnie? What's new? Where?

[A]

Nothing. What are you up to?

[B]

Not much. I didn't give you your normal adjectives, so I'm going to say no. Joyous. The joyous and happy Ronnie. I. I could not have chosen two more generic characters.

[A]

It's better to just leave it than to struggle, you know?

[B]

I'm like, guys, let me think about something.

[A]

Really try to think of something nice to say about Ronnie.

[B]

I was trying to come up with interesting adjectives, and then I wound up on the most basic.

[A]

We'll all be crushed under the weight. Don't worry about it. I'm here with this bitch Ronnie.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

This horrible human bitch Ronnie. You can't stop binging on Girl Scout cookies because he bought 13 boxes or something. Oh, by the way, thank you. That to that Girl Scout. I'm getting fatter and I'm loving every second of it. Thank you. Thin mints. Also, I wanted to show people I was talking on the Southern charm recap about shopping at TEMU and how they sent me the wrong shirt. So I had to actually show you the shirt. I pulled it out of the trash can and here it is.

[B]

Wow. Slam and bush and pound and tush. Yeah. That is not your Chateau Marmont. T shirt that you claim to have ordered.

[A]

But I did get the Chateau Marmont T shirt too, so I'm hoping this one is not. You know, I also bought a beautiful butterfly shirt and that one hasn't come, so I'm hoping it's not. This hasn't come instead of my beautiful butterfly shirt.

[B]

Well, it looks like a gay in Texas wants a butterfly shirt. Let's toughen him up. Give him the slamming bush pounding tush T shirt. Yeah.

[A]

So thanks, Temu. Thanks for sure.

[B]

We are coming to the end of a very busy week. We had such a crazy week. Thank God, honestly, for the Crappies last week because it made this week feel like nothing and normally this would have been a hell week. We recorded so many episodes. This is a crossover week for Bravo. When shows are ending, shows are launching and they always launch new shows on the heels of old shows. So we've really recapped a ton of shows. If you didn't go back and listen to, you know, Southern hospitality and yada, if you didn't watch those shows, you should. But a big shout out to two of our special guests who appeared on the podcast this week. Just yesterday we had a hilarious interview with none other than Candace Dillard Bassett, who, you know from Real House Has a Potomac and also the Traitors. And she just put it all out there. You know, I loved how she answered all our questions. And earlier in the week we had Rob Sasorino where we talked also traders and survivors. So a lot of really fun bonus content there. Also, as I mentioned, we a week ago, it's already been a week. The Crappies happened. It was a exquisite night of adventure and tears and joy and we had so many wonderful guests. Thank you again to everyone who showed up. There were so many amazing moments, priceless moments. We don't want you to miss them if you didn't watch the show or if you couldn't see the show, couldn't be there. There is a replay. It is still available. Go to our website, watchwickrappins.com you can buy tickets to the replay. It'[e-mail] we.com if you want to go directly there. So that's only going to be up for one more week and then it's then it's gone forever. So get your go check out this crappy. So the biggest and craziest of all time. And then finally, you know, Patreon, that's patreon.com watch happens. That's where you can watch the video. That's where you can get bonus episodes. Although our bonus episodes this week are free for everyone. And by the way, newsletter. There's a free newsletter that lives on Patreon, but you don't even have to be a Patreon member. Just. You can just go over there and you can click on it and you can read it. And we. We had two this week. The normal one. And then Ron and I wrote about our experiences with the crappies leading up to it, all that fun stuff. So there's like, a lot of sort of extra crap and stuff for you guys all to chomp on this week, and we hope you enjoy it.

[A]

Yeah, fun times. Okay, let's move over to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Season 15, episode 12. I don't know. Andy keeps saying, wow. The second half of the season is full on all cylinders. It is crazy. Wow. You thought it was slow to start, but wow. And it's gone. No, it's still slow. But you know what? It's still very funny. Was cracking it the whole time.

[B]

It's great for us as recappers, I think, because we just make fun of it. I don't know if you're not recapping it, if it's great for the viewer because it is a little dull. This. The season showed signs of life in the middle. In the middle. And it's like, oh, my God, now it's coming together. They're all getting angry at Amanda, and now it's just sort of like, you know, it's like the fart has dissipated and we're back down to just, you know, them lazing about. And, yeah, I can tell you what,

[A]

there's always more farts to come.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

There's never just one fart. Okay, so we've. Let's just keep it going. Let's have a farty party. That's what I say. But we open at Rachel's house, and she's got a poster in the foyer, and it's like, welcome home, sky by Gucci. A Gucci poster. Nah, I'm done.

[B]

Yeah. Skyler has been in France for two weeks. So she's like, sky, you just traveled around France for two weeks. Did you know you were even in France? Did you think you're in Luxembourg? Because guess what? You're in France. I can't believe you just did that. Sky, that's, like, amazing.

[A]

He's like, I got you a gift. She's like, oh, my God. I hope every woman in your life gets you an orange box. Oh, my God. Yeah, this is. I'M done. I am done. I am done. I'm literally dead. And it's a uni bangle from her maze for $400. And he's like, wow, it goes nice with your outfit. She's like, oh, my God. Okay, you know what? I take it back. Do not buy a random girl or Hermes bracelet. They don't deserve it. They don't deserve your sky. No one deserves this guy.

[B]

When I got gifts from my parents for, like, Mother's Day and Father's Day, it was like a cherry pitter. I would just go to the hardware store and find some, like, chalk. There's always, like, a bin of, like, weird little chaskies. That's what I would not buy my parents Hermes bracelets.

[A]

So that's nothing to brag about, Ben. Although I have to say, if I gave my mother an Hermes bracelet, she would open it and immediately bite into it to see if it was made of chocolate or she would not believe it. She'd be like, what?

[B]

So Rachel's like, I love this. Oh, my God. I love that you went to Hermes. Like, by the way, I just think it's funny that, like, there's a 14 year old kid somewhere in Paris who's like, guys, gotta stop what I'm doing. Gotta go to Hermes and buy myself, buy my mom a bracelet.

[A]

I'm with his friends. It's not crazy.

[B]

They're probably.

[A]

Okay, kids, we're stopping at the Hermes store to buy your mom something, okay?

[B]

Everyone's allowed to buy one thing, okay? One thing from Hermes. Can I get this bag? Sure.

[A]

The rest of us were at camp, like, carving figurines out of soap blocks.

[B]

Making a figure out of seashells with eyeballs on it. I'm not saying that I did that, but I definitely did make one of those, you know? You know what I'm talking about.

[A]

Yes, I do. Of course I went to camp.

[B]

Come on. I still have it. It's like, still my childhood bedroom. A little seashell creature. So Rachel's like, I love this. And he's like, yeah, it goes nice with your fit. Yeah. Wow, this is amazing. Don't. Okay. By the way, don't buy any random girl on Hermes bracelet. Only for your mom. Okay? Wow. Thanks Dead Dead for this.

[A]

So now we go to a med spa called the Beauty Sandwich. Fuck off.

[B]

I didn't notice that. The Beauty Sandwich.

[A]

Y' all don't eat sandwiches? I feel like it's, like making fun of the rest of us. It's like, ha, ha. Look at what rich people have facial sandwiches. We don't do the regular kind. You losers. You fat, old looking losers.

[B]

But it's also, like, not a name that I would gravitate to. If I'm like, you want to go to a day spa? Let's go to the Beauty Sandwich. Like, at least call it the Beauty Baguette. Call it like, but the Beauty Sandwich.

[A]

The Beauty lettuce wrap. Let's make it realistic. So the guy Ivan is there and he's like, are you ready to get snatched? Because let's just like, shapewear for your face. Like, that's cool. Called a bank robbery outfit. Like, what, are you going to put pantyhose on my face?

[B]

I went onto their Instagram. They have 1 million followers. The beauty Sandwich is apparently like a known quantity. On the. Pinned at the top of the profile, Emma Stone. Kim Kardashian. And who is this person? I don't know. It's. It's, oh, Ana de Armas. But like, it's famous apparently. But I don't know. I'm sorry, I reject the Beauty Sandwich. I just think you could be famous, but you could also have better branding.

[A]

A lot of people have a million followers that I reject, you know? Yeah, that means nothing. Now if you want to throw some treatments, I'll be in there. Maybe I'll come to work next time. Looking like a shaved turkey sandwich. I'm fine with that. So it's like, oh, yeah, the shape. Well for your face. Okay. It's non invasive. It's no needles, no lasers. Okay, then why am I paying you? Get out your needles, get out your lasers and get to fucking work. What am I here for your prayers? What are you gonna manifest me a better face? Get your tools out.

[B]

Shouldn't it be called an open face sandwich? Just saying. So get it. It's a face pun. So now we go to son's house, and I guess she got a rolly tv. It's like a TV that's on like a. It's on like a pole and it has wheels. It made her look like she was in a hospital. She's like, okay, let me just bring this over here to my chair. A little rolling, rolling tv. I was like, are you doing a corporate presentation?

[A]

Yeah. Well, that's what they're. They're for rich people who don't have a place to put a tv, you know, because I'll put it anywhere. Like, I don't care because I'm not rich. So I'm like, okay, it's a fireplace. Nail it into that but rich people are like, you can't have a tv. It's too tacky. So now they have these rolling things that they bring out. Sutton is definitely someone who shops on Facebook. You know, like, she buys from the Facebook ads, because that's where I've seen these the most.

[B]

Yeah. To me, it definitely just reminded me of, like, being. Going to the doctor's office, and they, like, you sit and, you know, whatever on that, like, bed kind of thing. And then the. The nurse attendant comes in and then, like, rolls a monitor over and takes your vitals. But, like, for her, she's watching, like, Yellowstone or something instead of.

[A]

Yeah, it's the new version of the big, huge TVs that they had on those rolling carts when we were in school, you know.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

They would roll them, and this is, like, the new version of that. And I love that Sutton has one. And she has that cute dog, Junebug. Junebug Carter Cash or whatever. Junebug, you better not be up there eating cat poop. And then Junebug comes down, just. I mean, you could see the cat poop breath. Yeah, she's like, burping delicious cat poop. Like, look at me here, Saturday, watching a movie. Dogs, my ten cats, cat sweater. It's fun.

[B]

We are watching Oliver and Company, so that's nice. She's like, I just love when that. When Bette Midler sings as a poodle. So then we go to Dorit's house, and Bose comes over and Dorit's like. So they. She comes in, gives her some rose, and she's like, I am. I am so happy. Let me tell you, the Hamptons this past weekend, like, Dom Perignon Rosade champagne all the entire time. Now what did you do? I drew a little smiley face in a notebook at Amanda's house. So I guess we kind of had the same weekend.

[A]

I'm so proud. I'm so proud of you. All right. Cheers to having so much to talk about. Right. Do we have to keep talking about this? Because I've got a lot of gossip, and I just want to leave. So let's get on with it. Doreen's like Fountains was the most fun I've had in a long join. Rachel was impeccable host, and Kyle and I were finally able to put our differences to the site. And then we see at Jade's Market, Kyle is meeting Amanda for coffee. Will she have the same story? Probably not. Amanda gets her half almond, half oatmeal. Is that ceremonial grade

[B]

cerem? Ceremonial grade coffee. She's like, I'm like, not a morning person. And, like, I don't know if I've mentioned that, but I had to have a facial at 7am this morning. And Kyle's like, I need to do that. It's like a 911 situation. Am I right? Because my skin looks terrible. Right? This is when you say, no, you look great, Kyle. You actually look really great for your age. Okay, Amanda, your turn to say that to me now. Okay, I'm waiting.

[A]

Yeah, I got three facials a month, actually. Like, constant facials. You get three facials a month.

[B]

It's called living in West Hollywood. What else is new?

[A]

And Kyle's like, actually, I don't know anybody who actually gets three facials a month. And I love that after this whole season, this is the first thing that Kyle has disagreed with that Amanda. She's. This is Kyle's first clue that Amanda's full of shit. She's like, three facials a month.

[B]

Cut to Kyle furiously texting her assistant. Get. Get two more facials on the books for me, please, as soon as possible. Thank you.

[A]

Three more so I can beat her.

[B]

Facials are on fleek, so. So Amanda's like, yeah, but they're all very active facials. And I like the machines and stuff and, you know, but, like, some of them have a downtime, so you have to, like, make sure you don't see anyone for five to seven days. But I love a facial. Okay, so how was your event? Can you tell me about your event so then I can, like, one up it with, like, how we went to the Hamptons and met a guy named Xander who's, like, actually really cool. He wears, like, a wide brim hat. And, like, hats are kind of my thing, so we kind of bonded. Oh,

[A]

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[B]

Kyle's 50. Amanda's 41, but she's more like a 23 in cult years.

[A]

Yeah, she definitely seems younger, for sure. And spiritually, maybe she's getting too much buffed off of her spirit during facials. I don't know. Her maturity. Her maturity level, but yeah. So they're talking about facials. Kyle's sick of it, so now they move on to better conversation. And she's like, well, like, I got everyone journals. And, like, I thought we'd do some basic, like, tried and true, get clear on what you want. Journaling, you know, I thought it'd be easy. Like, normally, people pay me trillions of dollars for that, but, like, it didn't go great.

[B]

Oh, what do you mean? Wait, did you guys. Was there, like, a DJ there? Were you, like, dancing all night in the DJ booth? Rachel did that. And then, like, I went home early because, like, I care about wellness. But, like, what was going on with you? Do you guys have, like, a thousand people at your, like, manifesting party? That's where we were with, like, thousands of people. Tell me everything.

[A]

She's like, bose drew a picture. Like, how disrespectful. So then we see one week earlier, Amanda's manifestation dinner. Bose is just staring her down from across the table while sketching.

[B]

That's the action counts as manifestation works. Draw what you want. She's like, exit sign. I drew an exit sign.

[A]

Yeah, well, she said she'd never really journaled before, so I don't know. Like, maybe she just wasn't into it. It's like, oh, so they showed up, but they didn't show up for you? Is that what you're saying? Like, they showed up, but they weren't really there?

[B]

Yeah, they didn't show the up. Oh, my God. Aren't I wild how I just said that? You know, in the Hamptons, you're done. Right, okay. You know, in the Hamptons, we had, like, a lot of. So no one thought about anything? No, nothing. It was, like, great. Like, we didn't get into anything. We just, like, dropped it and had fun. And I told myself if it turns into an argument, I'll just fly back home. Okay, yes, Kyle, you're going to leave the super cool Rachel Zoe party scene to fly back home if gets into an argument? Sure. I really believe that.

[A]

Did you notice that Amanda was taking off her bottom shoe and then, like, kind of flipping it up so that everybody notice that? See her red hair? She's like, yeah, I'm really rich, you guys. These are ceremonial grade red heels.

[B]

So they have to dangle off my. I can't keep the whole shoe on my heel. The heel has to come out. You can't heal unless you expose the heel. So the heel is out, but the toe is in, Guys.

[A]

And by the way, my husband did not pay for these. He's so poor,

[B]

he can only afford one ceremonial grade coffee per six months. God, he makes so much no money.

[A]

So we go back to boz and dorit, and boz is like, I don't know. Should I just jump into it or do I have to hear more bullshit from your mouth? Okay, I talked to Kyle when you were in the Hamptons, and I asked how you were doing, and she was like, hey, look, I'm worried about dorit because she's going through all this stuff and she's buying things. And perhaps it's because her moods are erratic a little bit. She's crazy. She's psychotic. She should lose her children. I don't understand what's happening with her. Someone go save the children. That's what Kyle said.

[B]

Dorit is nodding like she's in a nodding competition. She's like. She is like, I'm going to out brownlin bronwyn because she does not stop nodding for this whole scene. She's like, so. Well, she said that a lot last year, too. And then we see last year cobbing. Like, you seem, like, a little bit more aggressive than usual. You're kind of like, cuckoo for cocoa pops. Look at her. Oh, my God, she's crazy. Guys, should we 5150 her? Oh, my God.

[A]

So then dorit's like the queen of concern trolling. Oh, my God, you guys, I've really been worried about dorit.

[B]

Oh, that's a great way to put it. Yep, 100% concerns trolling. She does seem a bit more concerned now. And we go back to jades, and Kyle's like, yeah, I mean, dorit's just kind of like, all over the place. She got glam at 2am before a 5am flight. And then she forgot her passport and didn't have a real id. I'm like, yes, that does sound crazy. Like, it's crazy glam at 2am that's wild. And you forgot your password and you reeled it. That's crazy. But it's also kind of. I feel like just being like, rich. I think at one point you just assume someone is carrying those things for you.

[A]

Well, you've got to be on camera at 5 in the morning. You put on your. You get your glam done at 2:00am you know, these people do it. And Kyle's also talking to the girl who just got a facial at 7am so it's not really that crazy. But what's crazier is that she's talking to Amanda about it. Like, amanda and Dorit don't like each other. You're sitting here and you're spreading more doritos crazy shit around Kyle. You know, she's so transparent. And what's the point of having a real ID if it's still got your face from three years ago? You've had three faces since then. You're cheating on the real id.

[B]

Yeah. So Amanda's like, did you make your flight? She's like, yeah, we did. You know, dorit has always been one to run a little behind, but an hour to an hour and a half late is completely ridiculous. It's actually 100 on brand for her to be not remember watching teddy sit there on fairfax avenue for an hour fuming in her first season waiting for dorit.

[A]

And this season, even this season has happened like five times. She's like, oh, my God, Dorit is late. We should get her lobotomized.

[B]

I'm not saying that I approve of dorit being so late. I think it's actually really shitty. And I do think it's crazy that she forgot her passport and real I.D. like, that's wild. But I think that Kyle trying to use this as signs of dorit losing her mind and being manic is just a bit much.

[A]

Yeah, she's taking things that you do normally and she's trying to use it as an excuse to get you imprisoned.

[B]

Yeah, like, dorit's always been an idiot. She's. She's like, kyle's now saying, oh, wait, she's now being an idiot. And it means that she has a severe, you know, mental health issue right now. It's like, no, this is just unfortunately the way dorit has always been.

[A]

Yeah, well, look, all I'm saying, I'm not saying she's. I'm just saying she needs to be. Maybe not locked up, but what's a better scattered? So then we go to Dorit's house and Boza's like, well, one of the things she said is, is she present in conversations? Is she late to things? Late, I said, I can see that. I noticed that. I mean, who doesn't notice that she's always late? Well, how dare she? But I attribute that to the fact that you're talking to lawyers or the kids writing books, designing clothes. Maybe I'm a woman of the world. A boss beat, as they say.

[B]

A handkerchief isn't going to turn itself into a headband by itself. Those things take time.

[A]

Suppose it's like, what would my window do if it didn't have a reflection of someone pushing up against it and looking out with its mouth slightly open? Has it shown off its new giveaway?

[B]

Does Kyle know how long it takes for a fizz in a Coca Cola to go down when you're pouring it in a glass? Very slowly. It's a long time.

[A]

That reminds me, I need a Coca Cola. It's all a drink. Cheating. There we go. Making a little more for little Jaggy and that girl he keeps hanging out with.

[B]

Well, I'm with Dorit in person, and I don't see what Kyle is saying. I see that she's overwhelmed, and perhaps that is causing her to behave in a certain way that other people don't agree with, but doesn't mean that she's erratic and it cuts to read and she's like, I. I do have an issue with, you know, air quotes, friends who are concerned, yet they don't bring the concern to me. And we just spent four days together. Four days, 24 7. That's 247 hours in a 247 days. 247 hours in a day, in a week. Do you follow what I'm saying? Bose? I'm gonna help you through it. You spent a lot of time. And I get it, even though you didn't actually spend an entire week with her. I'll let you say the 247 thing. I know where you're going with it. And also, she's having a conversation.

[A]

You or her? Because you haven't closed the air quote. Very confused.

[B]

I'm sorry. PK stole the other half of it.

[A]

PK is eating the 7 of the 24.

[B]

I will say now, you know I'm loath to give Kyle any credit, but I will say I can understand if, like, Kyle did not want to bring it to Dorit's attention at the Hamptons because they're just having a nice time. They want to have a fun time. And Kyle's just really. At that point, Kyle's not thinking, oh, I've got a job to do. I'm on a TV show. She's just thinking, like, oh, my God, do you think Donna Karen remembers me from last night? She just wants to be in with the cool people right now. So I think she's like, look, I'll deal with this later. But then at the same time, like. And that. So I get that. But also then don't call a Bose and, like, talk shit about Doritos, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I can't.

[B]

I won't either be on vacation or don't be on vacation.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not gonna give Kyle credit. She is doing what Kyle does. She's going to use everybody else as the weapons against Dorit. That's it.

[B]

She literally says it later in the episode. That's what she's doing.

[A]

You gave us the most boring episode of all time in the Hamptons because you wouldn't do this shit to her face. And now you're gonna get everybody else to try to do it. And they're not so good for Bose for going straight to Dorit. And she's like, oh, and here I find myself this token. Token idiot. Well, if it. If it helps you, you're not all. You're not the token. There's a lot of.

[B]

You're more the standard bearer.

[A]

I actually believed that coil and I were in a good place. She's brilliant at that. But what she's doing behind my back is something very, very different.

[B]

When Kyle changed drastically, stopped drinking, started working out obsessively, became a lesbian, she started to really emulate behavior of her new lesbian friends of hers. She's sudd tattoos all over the place. She's talking like, sling blade, and she has a straw in her mouth. And not the kind you drink from. Something is going on with her husband because she's no longer on her Instagram. And I wasn't saying, oh, my God, look at her. I'm really worried. Like, actually, you kind of were, but that's.

[A]

Yeah, you actually did do that.

[B]

It's okay.

[A]

We'll.

[B]

We'll give you this one.

[A]

You did do that. And I think that that was valid to be like, why? I mean, you know, at the time, I was like, come on, give Kyle a break. You know? But I can see as a friend where you're like, whoa, Suddenly you're not. You're a different person. What's going on? And I think at the time, she was saying you're dating somebody, and now you're becoming this person, and it's weird stopping a weirdo and ignoring me just because you're, you know, like a five minute lesbian or whatever.

[B]

Also, it's like, much more that. Yeah, I apologize for talking over you. But also, Kyle's behavior was a significant departure versus what Dorit's doing.

[A]

Not at all. Yeah, that's the point. Like, Dorit's isn't different at all. Dorit's always been an hour and a half late in scatterbrain brains, so.

[B]

And shopping.

[A]

And shopping too much with money that she doesn't have and never had.

[B]

So she took $30,000 in cash to a. To big lots. Okay. And now this is. The issue is that she bought, like, an extra sundress when this is the same lady who got $30,000 of cash lifted out of her cart at big lots. Hello. That's the erratic behavior.

[A]

That was funny when she kept forgetting the store and the amount. She's like, well, you know. You know how you do. Carrying $10,000 for your car to target, $20,000 to your carted best boy. $97,000 in your carted Pet boys.

[B]

How is that? Beverages and less. And they took it.

[A]

I was being stalk stock. They tell you it's Flo behind her, the insurance lady. Wow, what a coincidence. Best buy and pet boys, both of us, the same day.

[B]

So Dorit's like, if she spent a little more time focusing inward on what needs to be done, then maybe she would show up as an actual friend. That would make us turn that eighth quarter. Not sure where the eighth quarter. Meaning that they've. What structure is she in? We're trying to get through this hamster maze together. I'm assuming that they just keep on trying to turn corners with each other.

[A]

So many kunas Coyle knows what's on the line in my contentious woose. She was the one who warned me about what I say and do out of fear that PK would retool it. And this is the best course of action now to give him something to use against me. She's right. Of course. That's exactly what Kyle's doing.

[B]

She is 100% right. And I loved how Dorit was, like, yelling in this confessional. Like, you hear the echo around wherever she's being shot.

[A]

She's like, and can you believe what she's saying to me?

[B]

So then Bo's like, fucking good.

[A]

Damage looking, boogie dogged. Damn it.

[B]

Good.

[A]

I love that last week when she just started freaking out. Well, if there's trust between you two, she wouldn't need me to come to you and say, I'm worried about Dorit. Oh, you really think she's worried? Yeah, I mean, she's. She's worried. Really? Do you really think she's worried? I do. I think she's right. Okay, let me ask you this way. Do you really think she. I do. Well, okay, I can say it in many different accents and you're still going to agree with Coil.

[B]

How about an Italian accent? Because guess what? New topic. I've been thinking a lot about hot girl summer and how annoying it is that we keep on having to say hot girl summer on this show. And I want to take another trip. Italy is the place to be. And Theresa. Oh, Italy is like a. Is like a home for me. You know, I spent almost a decade in Italy. Parlo italiana, multi bene, parmesan cheese, meatball, linguine, lasagna.

[A]

I should pack 19 suitcases.

[B]

Ooh, pesto. So Bose is like, polish off that Italian girl. I don't know what you're saying. I can't tell if you turned into a TV that's trying to get reception or if you're actually trying to speak Italian, but whatever it is, keep that energy.

[A]

Clink. I love the sound of this crystal. So now they go to Rachel's house and she's having a chat with her son in the kitchen, or both of her sons, because they're both here now, and one of them lights a candle. And Caius is like, mom, he can light a candle. He's 14. You can trust him around a controlled flame. She's like, oh, my God, you can't. Like, seriously, be careful. Like, everything on me is flammable. I'm in feathers, I'm in rayon. Like, everything. My hair, like, please just be careful with the flame.

[B]

That. That match is like vintage Gucci, so treat it carefully. So he's like, so. Okay, guys, guys, can we have a serious talk for a second? Serious talk, Serious talk. Did someone is. Someone's like, no. Don't someone have a tumor? No. Does someone have a new album out? Xander does. Yeah. Xander's new album out. Yeah, you got that right.

[A]

No one died. No one has a tumor. So, okay, you guys were at camp and it came out. Like, I didn't know it was going to come out, but I'm, like, really famous, and I sent something out Called a pet. And that's basically me saying, your dad's stupid and I want a divorce, but I didn't want it to be public. And you know what? I wanted you to hear it from me and not your camp counselors or anybody at camp. Do they say it over the loudspeaker at camp that I'm leaving your dad? No. What do you mean? Do they know who I am?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why didn't they announce that I'm calling the camps? This is crazy. You guys don't get TMZ at camp. My God, where am I sending you? Fucking Luddite camp porn is. Do you hate your father?

[B]

Skylar's like, yeah, it's crazy. It went viral, but I haven't seen it anywhere. So, like. So then did it go viral?

[A]

That was such a burn. I like that Skyler comes back and he's like, he gives little burns here and there, and they're very subtle because, you know, he's a kid on tv, but for her to be like, oh, my God, you guys, it went viral. It was everywhere. Did you hear about it? He's like, wow, crazy that it went viral and I didn't hear about it.

[B]

Good. I'm glad he didn't hear it. How did it camp? Like, yeah, I'm sure, like, the. I still, by the way, I don't even believe this went viral. We knew. We. There definitely was an announcement when they broke up. Like, that hit the news, but, like, oh, they have now gone from being separated to filing for divorce. I don't seem to remember that being, like, massive gossip, but she's like, guys, guys, no questions, no comments. Yeah, we filed the paperwork, guys. It's official, guys.

[A]

So, guys, I remember reading about it, and in the comments, people were like, didn't she divorce him, like, 10 years ago? Like, what the hell? She's been divorcing him forever. There's been. This lasted a long time, but that. Guys, it went viral, so you're welcome. Tick tock.

[B]

Okay, guys, it's like, so you're not in love with him anymore? She's like, I'm not in love with him anymore. It's, like, different because, like, you know how, like, you have a spring look and then it becomes summer, and you're like, you're just in a different season. It doesn't mean don't like your sweater anymore. It just means you probably won't wear it for the time being. So that's what that means. Does that make sense?

[A]

This is such a bizarre conversation to have with your kids. On camera.

[B]

Right. I actually believe that they already had a private conversation. I like, because she actually seems very protective of them. And I believe she already broached this with them. And then she was like, guys, are you comfortable talking about this on camera? And they're like, yeah, sure. We don't little. Don't care.

[A]

Okay, well, don't forget to call your dad's girlfriend a skank. Okay? That's your lie. Okay, so she tells us that she, you know, she thinks kids are better off with happy parents and miserable parents. And she's like, it's important that we have an open forum as a family. Okay? What do we think of Rayon? You're right. Thumbs down. Okay, you guys get a cookie. It's a pretend cookie. I don't believe in giving real cookies. Okay, so now let's talk about, like, how does this feel last year? Does it feel better than before or, like, worse than before last year? Like, now that your dad's gone, like, is the house better or worse? And they're like, it feels same, but different. Yeah, because house is different. Like, it's better. Like, I'm hotter. Am I hotter this summer than I was last summer? Just saying.

[B]

Caius is like, yeah. I mean, he's. He was. He wasn't really here a lot before, but now there's, like, no trace of him. Like that weird little haircut he's had for 20 years. Like, I barely even remember it. Peaceful. Yeah.

[A]

He had a big energy, though, right? I guess so. She says that Caius was mad at her for letting her be treated the way that she was. And she's like, that means I wasn't modeling what marriage and relationship should be like. And now I am. Because, like, single ladies should be in Fendi. And more importantly, how to talk to someone you love so they know now when you love somebody, you put their carry on into the carry on compartment for them. Thank you, guys.

[B]

The forum needs a new topic. Should we address what happened on the way to camp, since we haven't discussed that yet? And let's make sure you're close to the camera when you say it. Like, sure. So Kais is like, basically, dad was there because he drove us there. And he was like, this is my friend. And she was like, hi. And I just looked away. And I was like, oh, that's the person. Did she look terrible? Was she dressed well? Probably not, right? I'm so sorry you guys had to see such bad fashion.

[A]

Okay, you guys, I don't want to make you uncomfortable, so I'm Just gonna make this a one to ten scale, okay? One being Humpty Dumpty, ten being Big Bird. How ugly was she?

[B]

What sort of fast fashion was she wearing? I actually don't care that Rod just speaking to someone else, but after speaking to the kids, they don't want to know her and they don't want to be around her. And they're at an age where they just have to listen to them. Okay? And, like, we have to listen to them. If I was dating a guy and the guy showed up and express men, I'd have to be like, I'm sorry, you can't be around my children. It's just not up to the level that they're used to.

[A]

Okay, you guys are gonna stay with your dad because I'm going out of town. But, like, if she's there, you don't have to be there. Okay? And you have the right. You have the right to say it. Like, okay, sure, bro. She's like, oh, my God. Did you just call me bro? Did you just call me bro? You should never call your mother bro

[B]

unless your name is Xander. He's like, actually so cool. He's like, an amazing musician. He's great. So now Amanda's in her. She's in her mom car. Her quote, unquote mom car. She's driving with her wedding planner, Tyler.

[A]

She's so annoying. She's like, oh, yeah. Well, this is one of my cars. It's not, like, the nicest of my cars, so it's like my nice. It's like my best mom cars because it has all the things. So, like, I have other cars, though. Like, I have so many cars. But we're in this other day. But, like, there's more. Don't worry.

[B]

Do you. Do you want to turn on the massage setting? Yeah, sorry. I know this car is so dumpy. Just only has the bare minimum. Okay. So she's like, eddie and I are getting married on 10, 1026, and we're basically taking over the towns of Santa Ynez and Los Olivos. And I have bought out every hotel in the area, and we have so much to do to get ready for our guests. So that basically means she's just going to drive around and be annoying.

[A]

She bought out every room in Santa Nez. And I'm sure. I'm sure, so. Oh, my God. How do we get 200 people to come have, like, a vineyard moment with us? You invited. You invite them to the fucking vineyard? She's so annoying. This lady is too much. She's ridiculous. And I love that she's telling this guy who throws luxury weddings in Beverly Hills for a living. She's like, oh, my God, you want a massage? My seats haven't. He knows he's been in these cars before.

[B]

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[A]

What does it mean to live a rich life? It means brave first leaps, tearful goodbyes, and everything in between. With over 100 years experience navigating the ups and downs of the market and of life, your Edward Jones financial advisor will be there to help you move ahead with confidence. Because with all you've done to find your rich, we'll do all we can to help you. Keep in mind enjoying it. Edward Jones Member, SIPC. So they pull up to Theoni Collection and it's lifestyle event rentals. So he's like, oh, my God, if you can parallel park this thing, you can do anything. She's like, yeah, make ten tens of millions of dollars. Raise four children. Parallel park like a boss. Don't underestimate me. My husband may be poor, but I'm not.

[B]

I'm just so sad that she keeps using boss as like an adjective. It's just so sad. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna park like a boss. Winning. Also, I wish this place the Theony Collection. I really wish it was called the Talioni Collection.

[A]

And it's just like I was thinking that too.

[B]

Yeah, just rent items from her life. It's kind of like the Marlowe, like Marlowe's Vault, but it's like the Talioni version,

[A]

just random stuff she rents out from her house. She's like, well, I've only got three goblets. David stole the other one. But, you know, we've still got them. You need three for your wedding.

[B]

This is the sweater I wore when I had to hug the old guy from succession who played my dad as that giant wave crashed down on us in Deep Impact.

[A]

Taya Leone was in succession.

[B]

No, no, Brian. What's his face?

[A]

Oh, you just sent me into a loop.

[B]

I just remember his name. What's his name?

[A]

Not Appreciate Tia Leone in succession.

[B]

She should have been. If they knew it was right for that show. She could have been and be like, guys, I'm really sorry, there's been a problem. Like, that could have been her only role. Just to say that there was a problem and she would have nailed it.

[A]

So they come into this place and Tyler, the guy is like, today, I just really want to focus on things that light up your eyes. Let's light up your eyes. We're going to get a vibe check. She goes, oh, my God, let's vibe check. Yeah. Because your wedding is like a whole weekend that we're planning. I mean, there's like so many events. Like, how do we get people to take up a vineyard for a vineyard moment? Am I right? I already said that. Yeah, but still.

[B]

So you're scouting for the locations for the after party after the wedding on Saturday night, and then the day after party and the rehearsal day on Friday. So four parties, by the way, there's nothing to scout. There's like four venues up there. Everyone has their weddings in pretty much the same places and they all go the same things. Everyone goes and parties at Maverick or whatever. They all go to the this place and that. It's like, it's great. But, like, stop acting like there's a big scout. Like, you just. Just pull up the lists, throw a dart at it, and you'll have a great wedding. So Tyler's like, you want to look at chairs? And she's like, yeah, I love the idea of, like, a rustic chair. Like, would it be kind of, like, amazing? Whoa. Why don't we do like, a blue china and a rustic chair? Wouldn't that be just, like, so boss?

[A]

Yeah, I'm very decisive. So I'm rich. He's like, well, like, if we have menus on the plate, they could be beautiful and then they could, like, tell the guests what's coming. Yeah, that's what menus are. Tyler, you didn't just invent menus.

[B]

Think about it. Instead of surprising the guests with what they ordered, there could be like a piece of paper that's kind of like a roadmap of what the meal would be. We call it a menu.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Just thinking out loud.

[A]

Something like that. So, yeah, I mean. Hey, guys, welcome to the perfect, gluten free, fabulous Russian, Christian, Jewish wedding girl. Just tell people, I hope people see this before they go to your wedding. So they know to just bring food. I know.

[B]

Just because you're gluten free doesn't mean you have to make it gluten free for every single person.

[A]

Yeah. Really get your own 200 people.

[B]

I mean, there are plenty of very nice gluten free options, but like, come on, like give some, like, you know, put a, throw a crostini in there. Okay.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, listen, if I ever get married just because I'm gay, I'm not going to force everybody to suck a dick just because they come to my wedding. Give me some bread.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a dick while we're at it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then Tyler's like, oh my God. Remember when you said you were looking to spend like 300,000? And then like very quickly we learned that you like very nice things. She's like, yeah, because I'm rich. He's like, yeah, it's gonna cost so much money.

[B]

What's the wedding budget? That's the what the producer asked. She goes, haha. So I don't actually have a budget. I told him that there's an amount I probably wouldn't go over. And that was a lie. Like, listen, there's nothing that he would say to not spend my money, okay? So like, I make, I make that much in a month. What, what Eddie makes in a year. I'm sorry? Eddie makes in a month what I make in like a year. So there's just like things I'm happy to pay for. And no one could stop me from doing that because he's basically barely even a man with the $15 he makes mowing lawns around Los Angeles. Am I right, guys?

[A]

Yeah. What? Eddie Mason. Like a whole year I can make in like five minutes. It's so funny. I'm basically not even marrying a man. I'm just marrying a man on a stick who comes with children already. It's like crazy. He's like poor. He's like really poor. I handed him some, I handed him a sponge. And like every time I come home, I make him like jump in front of my car and try to like clean the windshield. And I say, no, no, no, I don't have any dollars. It's really romantic.

[B]

I think aesthetically Eddie trusts me. He said, this is whatever you want and I'm also paying for it. So like, there's that. Did I remind everyone I'm paying for it all? So. But we both want each other to have what each other wants. So like, they're Christian things, there's Jewish things, there's gluten free things. I mean, everything's gluten free. I mean, we just want, we just want to have all Those things together.

[A]

I also want a section on the outside with a rope where Eddie's poor family has to stand behind it and just kind of look through the window.

[B]

Yeah. And I want people to journal before they step into the party. And if they only do a doodle, they're just not allowed in.

[A]

And just because I'm really into charity, I would like a box where people bring canned goods. And that can be Eddie's groom cake.

[B]

So Eddie says he wants to ride out on a horse. I was like, great. Get yourself a horse. So we're gonna do a hora, and then we're gonna step on the glass. We do all the Jewish things, but there's gonna be a worship song and a gospel choir, like, full interfaith. With a horse.

[A]

With a horse. You know what's crazy? Even the horse makes more money than Eddie. I found out, like, crazy. He gets more per hour than Eddie does. Nuts.

[B]

Yeah. He just wants to come through barn doors and lead everyone to the cocktail hour. And Tyler is like. He's just, like, on a horse. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, on a horse. And I really want to fly in on a helicopter, but he doesn't love that idea. I mean, thank God he doesn't get a say because he's poor. Jesus Christ. How is this man marrying her? Like, I don't care how much money you have. Is it worth it? She's horrible. She's so horrible to this man. My God, it's like, he's so pathetic. Can't wait to marry him.

[B]

Yeah, he is. Amanda is crazy, and she wants to fly in on a helicopter, but he doesn't want the helicopter because it's gonna scare his horse. How about you just both use your feet? How about we use, like, no other accessory to get you down the aisle? So Amanda's like, oh. And, oh, by the way, I thought it was such a fun idea. Like, there's a helicopter. Wait, the helicopter's landing. Holy. The bride is on the helicopter. Holy. The. The audience is, like, looking at me. Holy. I'm walking up the aisle. Holy. The audience is leaving. Holy. No one wants to be here. Isn't that, like, an amazing moment with a helicopter?

[A]

We see a clip of Eddie going, but the helicopter will scare my horse. She's like, oh, my God. Tell your horse to get a job. Yeah. I thought it was a fun idea. Like, a moment. Like, is there a helicopter? Oh, my God. Tyler's like, oh, my God. I love it. We're gonna find the perfect spot for it.

[B]

What are the odds that there will Be no shade at this wedding, that all the attentions will be put into how to get the helicopter in, how to get the horse in. And all the guests are gonna be in blazing sun, it's gonna be boiling hot, they're all gonna be sweating, and then the sun's gonna go down, it's gonna be freezing, and there won't be a heat lamp. What are the odds that that's gonna happen?

[A]

Totally. What are the odds that her wedding dress says I'm with stupid with an arrow pointing?

[B]

What are the odds that there's going to be a whole cocktail hour for 200 people and there'll be only one bar, station, and like one order of station and they're going to run out midway through because she's so focused on her helicopter.

[A]

Totally. We've all been there.

[B]

We've all been to those shitty weddings.

[A]

We've all been to narcissist weddings. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Where they really don't care about the guests.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So we go to a boutique where Erica and Kyle meet up and Erica's like, hey, did you go to Italy with Lisa the pump? And Kyle's like, oh my God, yeah, Mo just got in a Ferrari cuz he's really rich too. And we took the Ferrari out and that was some fun Lisa, you know, then life got complicated. Let's say goodbye, Kyle.

[B]

I love that they threw in that clip out of nowhere. So then Kyle's like, have you talked to dorit since we got back from the Hamptons or anybody? And Chris like, no, I haven't.

[A]

What's up with the read?

[B]

Oh, well, I think she's very worried about her life because I think. Because, like, listen, I was very worried about my life post separation and I didn't even have the financial stuff to worry about because, I mean, let's face it, Mo and I kind of have the best separation in the history of separation. You're welcome. But like, I don't know, she's like a little cuckoo for cocoa.

[A]

When people are going through problems, like, don't you ever think like, oh my God, how do poor people do it? Erica's like, oh,

[B]

yeah, well, that stress is terrible. So Kyle goes, of course I'm worried about dorit, but she does not want to hear what I have to say when I never say it to her in the first place, even if it's good advice. And I'd rather talk to people that Dorit actually is listening to so maybe they can get through to her.

[A]

So she's like, yeah, when we went Shopping. I was getting worried for her because she was, like, saying she has to pay for half of everything. Well, what do you mean? Half of what? Well, it's like she's like. It's unclear because they were like, talking so much, like, I couldn't even get a damn answer. Like, I don't even know. Like, half of what? Half the mortgage, half the kids, schools, half the bills. What are you two acting like you don't know what half of shit mean? Do you have to pay for your live your life? What do you need man for?

[B]

Yes. So we see a flashback of. Of Dorit saying how PK pays for all that stuff. And Erica's like, somebody who's still involved in this financial drama half a decade later, cut a deal and move on and find something else to do. By the way, this piece, this cardigan is not made. Bullshit.

[A]

I like that. They walk in and there's all these sweaters that say, like, literally say, cute on them. Really big.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's, like, printed on them. And then Erica and Kyle look at them, and they both go, oh, cute.

[B]

The sweater's like, let me help these bimbos along. Little on the nose.

[A]

Well, I want to know something's going on with Dorit that she's not telling us because I was the same way. You know, Dorit's not drinking on antidepressants and looking like an ass, But I remember how angry and frustrated and upset I was when I was at my limit. So that's why I get it, okay? Let's not bring everybody to Tom's level. Although we are talking about pk, so, man, I hope something was going on and we find out soon, because I've been waiting since the first day Dorit came on this show for those two to go down for fry fraud. You know that it's bad with those two. Find them. Why? Can you find everybody else? Bravo, police.

[B]

Yeah, we still remember that lady who confronted them at the pool in Florida over the Caribbean. So Kyle. Kyle and Erica are paying at the register, and Kyle's like, do I have mo pay for this? Oh, my God. Look at me buying something so expensive. I'm gonna make mo pay for it. I'm like, ma', am, the least you can do is just like, if as long as you're accusing of Dorit of purchasing things erratically, at least try to purchase something, like, very cheaply. So that way, at least your. Your argument has. Can hold some water. But when you're showing that you're just buying something expensive, like, everyone Else. And you're showing that this is actually the norm of what happens on the show with this group of people. You're really kind of undermining your own case here.

[A]

But she's not poor. That's the point. I mean, it's like, Amanda can go shop, but Eddie can't have those shopping scenes, you know, because he's poor. Don't know if you heard. So now we go to the ladies packing for Italia. And, you know, it's like, typical packing scenes. And Erica's like, hey, Lyle, did you get your European permit to drive? Because you really can't drive.

[B]

Are you excited to go see beautiful Tuscany where you'll be driving my ass around? Don't you think it's a vacation?

[A]

Oh, my God. I have to. I have to get my poochie. Okay, Like, I want all the caftans, but they have to be all Italian designers, because, like, why? What else would you wear in Italy but Italian designer? Armani, Gucci, Versace, Dolce.

[B]

What don't I love about Italian designers? Okay, let me get something that's, like, drapey and flowy. Oh, my God. I love that. But you know what else? I need something that's, like, drapey and flowy. Oh, my God. Vintage Gooch. I love it. Wait a second. Wait a second. Assistant. We really need something that's, like, vintage and flowy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Poochie. Oh, my God. I love it. Love it.

[A]

Oh, my God. You know what brand I want to try? Roger's new girlfriend's a whore. Oh, I'm sorry. I meant poochie. I meant poochie. God, I hope the kids didn't hear that. So it's the departure day LAX luxury terminal. So Bose and Sutton get in the lounge first and have some caviar. And Sutton's like, okay, listen. So I thought that I would room with Amanda. You're welcome. I'm a good person now. Okay, Sutton 2.0. This Sutton Brown talking.

[B]

Yes. I feel like Amanda is very neat. You know, I'm also a neat person. Neat in terms of how we clean up after each other. Not neat in terms of personalities. Okay. And I decided, you know, I need to give her a better chance to annoy me. I felt like I was only partially annoyed. I want to be fully annoyed, and I want to give her a chance to be understood and heard and tell me more about herself and feel uncomfortable doing so. Basically, I just want her to say some crazy shit, and then I can bring it to the group and Then I'll be the hero. This season.

[A]

I'm on an ammunition run. Okay. And Bose is like, well, I'm worried for the tension in the group because it could be something bigger. So we're traveling in three groups. The first group is me, Kyle, Amanda, Sutton, and Natalie. And then a few hours later is Erica, Dorit, Rachel. And the third group, Kathy and Jennifer. God knows if they'll ever get there. Good luck to them.

[B]

But, America, get ready. You're going to get a trip with Natalie.

[A]

What?

[B]

Everyone's been asking for Natalie Fuller joining the cast trip for no reason.

[A]

Poor Natalie. She seems so nice, but, oh, gosh, she's just not. There is no splash. There is no splash being made.

[B]

Sometimes these friends of just don't pop. Now, I will say I was thinking about it just now as we're talking. Normally, you would expect Sutton to room with Jennifer. Do you think that, like, Sutton opting to go with Amanda is like a weird. Like, it's. It's like a weird sign of something going on with their friendship because they have had some cracks this year.

[A]

Yeah, probably. And I think Sutton's probably a little gel that Jennifer is, like, this huge star on the show, you know, so I'm gonna be fun with somebody else. But Amanda. Oh, God. Oh, God.

[B]

The funnest of them all. Yeah. So Amanda. And so Amanda and Kyle arrive. So the first group leaves, and now Erica and Rachel arrive, and Erica's like, God, the bad cut off is in 30 minutes, and Dorit is yet to

[A]

even leave her house, it seems. Oh, my God. Where's Dorit? Dorit being late today is not an exercise in me being pissed off, because it's literally like, she cannot miss this plane. Like, this plane is, like, not waiting for her. It's not private. It's going with or without her. Okay? Like, that's just how planes work. So Rachel's like, yeah, if she's not here, they're gonna just throw her luggage on, you know? And Erica's. I've got anxiety. So now we go to group three, and it's Jennifer and Kathy. And Jennifer's like, I'm dying for a martini. Where's my passport? Oh, geez. Jesus. Traveling with Kathy is like herding kittens. There's all of these moving parts and bits and pieces and pillows and bags. It's not the relaxing start to a trip that I was hoping for,

[B]

because Kathy is chaos. She really is like, I can't find my tissues. So then guess what, guys? Dorit. She gets off. It's she gets. She arrives 55 minutes until departure. So 55 minutes until departure.

[A]

It's actually really good for her.

[B]

That's like, fine, you know.

[A]

Yeah, that's good. That's really good. Especially first class. You don't have to be there 19 hours early for first class.

[B]

I always think of the movie hello Again where Shelley Long plays some sort of like, you know, orchestral. Orchestral. Orchestral person. She's a. She's in the. She's in the orchestra. And she shows up to rehearsal and someone was like, I don't remember her character's name. They're like, oh, my God, you were almost late. And she goes, that's called being on time. And for some reason, I always remember that.

[A]

Like,

[B]

I was like, she is so right.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, God, girl, we've been cussing you out. And she's like, why I didn't miss the flight. I've still got 18 hours. So then we go to Tilly and it's her, you know, taking footage on the phone and she's narrating the layover in Switzerland. And it's just Kathy running around. Where's my bag? Do I have a face? Do I have a face right now?

[B]

They literally got fondue at their layover. I mean, I was like, wow, maybe it's a long layover or maybe it's just what I guess. I guess they pro. I don't know. I've never been laid over in Switzerland, but I love. It's like, well, while we're in Switzerland, guess we'll have a pot of fondue right now for the next 10 minutes before we get our next flight. That was so funny to me. I was also so jealous. Could you imagine being able to have fondue with Kathy Hilton and Jennifer Tilly in Switzerland? That's kind of like my dream scenario.

[A]

My dream scenario is finding Kathy's phone on the plane. Because Kathy leaves her phone on the plane. That's the phone I want to find because, you know, there's no lock on it or anything. I feel like you could just open it right up and start looking through it. Now we're in Tuscany. Both Sutton, Kyle, Natalie and Amanda are driven to the villa. And it's Villa Bimiani. And so we get the like, dun dun dun dun dun music and the host, Stevenor comes out. He's like, are you ready to enjoy the entale Dolce Vita?

[B]

So they come. Yeah, they walk around. It's like a very, like, Italian villa with all sorts of ornate art and etc. And they go through this tour and there's like a wine cellar and a theater and chandeliers and a chapel. And Bose tells us Villa Bibiani is owned by my friend George. He invited me to come here a dozen times. And if I had known his villa looked like this, I would have come

[A]

here a lot earlier.

[B]

But who would have thought a guy named. Named George would have such a fancy villa? Wow. And I would have come here without all these broads.

[A]

So Stefan was like, oh, my God, look at the room. Oh, my God, look at the other room. He's got so much energy, this guy. Jesus, what's. I know. In water over there.

[B]

Really excited. So Kyle gets a queen bed room. And then so the sun in Amanda's room is two twin beds. And Kyle, of course, starts laughing. And Amanda, you know, sudden's like. If I had known when the producers had suggested that I room with Amanda that I'd be stuck in a tween bed, I never would have said yes. I thought I was helping the show. And this is what I get in return. Son is so unhappy with this situation.

[A]

Yeah, because it's not even just that it's two twin beds. It's like. It's like a set of where nuns Stay. You know, it's like you're looking at a bedroom in an abbey on Sound of Music. And the other rooms are like, wow, look at this. There's a waterfall in my room. Wow, look at this bed. It spins in circles, turns upside down, and boom, you're in space. This is crazy. And then you get to the other room, and it's like, wow, here's a stone slab to sleep on. Okay.

[B]

I know. Next to the money queen. So Sutton and Amanda sit on their beds, and they're talking, and Son's like, well, this place is beautiful. Too bad we don't get to enjoy it because we're stuck here in nun prison. But I wanted to talk to you. Okay. Because I'm guessing you might be a little surprised that I asked Bose for us to room together. And Amanda's like, you know, I have conflicting opinions about rooming with Sutton. Sedona was Rocky, the manifestation. Lunch didn't go well, so I guess we'll see.

[A]

My favorite part of this is Sutton walks in. Amanda is, like, on the bed with her eyes closed. And Sutton goes, are you sleeping? She goes, yeah, I'm really tired, so I'm just gonna sleep. Okay, well, I want to talk to you about both. We're having sex. What? Did you. Did you not hear me say I'm going to Take a nap, ma'.

[B]

Am.

[A]

So son's like, I want to start some shit with you. So when I was at your house, okay, I was quite. I get strong.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I thought you were a bit wishy washy with your opinion, missy, about Drit's divorce. And that's why I was so forthcoming with you at your house.

[B]

Okay. Well, I still think that the read and I had been able. If we'd just been able to step away, it could have been sorted out easily, like, with context. It would have just wasn't like me being someone going around talking bad about her. I just, you know, I just hope her and I can just, like, sort it out, you know.

[A]

Well, I do too, because you're not. Stop.

[B]

I'm just gonna still talk because I'm earning money. Okay. And I do think to say to her, like, I didn't mean any harm. I would never want anything bad for her. No.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And no, I never intended to hurt her in any way. But I don't think I've ever said. And here's the thing, it was an informed opinion. It's not a random opinion that I have no background in. When I was getting my masters in counseling and manifestation arts, my focus was in childhood development and play therapy with children and their parents. So I'm basically a licensed therapist that's been, like, considered the best therapist in America.

[A]

Is time different in Italy? Because I think an hour has passed. You started talking. God damn it.

[B]

You know, many of the children that I blessed with my presence came from divorced homes. I can think a lot. A lot of the situations in which parents are talking badly about one another, it just hurts the family, you know, And I just don't know if she cares about my informed opinion.

[A]

Okay? But I. I don't know. I don't even know where I am anymore. I don't know what time it is. Is it still light outside? My eyes are rolling to the back of my head.

[B]

I just want to just reiterate that I have an informed opinion.

[A]

Okay, well, that's. That's great. Okay, well, I've also been new to this group, and I know how it's felt to have been kind of picked apart a little bit. Of course, mine was by Lisa Rinna. That's a real big dog. She'll get you. You want to be gotten. That's who's. That's who's going to get you. Let me tell you something. Let the mask up. Let the mask up.

[B]

When I started thinking about that, I thought, you know, I Just don't want Amanda to feel alone just because she is alone. Right. Because we all hate you. You know that, right? Okay. Because I can empathize. Now, that's an informed opinion right there. Because you are a dodo bird. Very well.

[A]

I was. I was just really trying to give you advice, which is, you know, Dorit can be hard to like. Well, like, get your point across to her is what I meant. So what happened to me personally was I would hold back and then I would just blow up, you know, like, lose my mind. Like lose it, like I'm about to do right now. I mean, actually, you are a very good foil for Dre, now that I think about it. It's like putting stupid up against stupid and just watching stupid go. You know what? You're going to be fine. Forget I said anything. I hope you don't mind. I'm going to take a nap now.

[B]

Let's see a montage of me blowing up at Doritos from an era that the fans call fun Sutton. And then we just see his son being like, don't get the back book then. Yeah. And just her just yelling. Etc. So Amanda's like, I think that if she wanted to get to know me and to resolve things, there'd be space for me to speak. Well, I would personally, from my dealings, I would make sure you do that because, you know, you might lose your brain like I did. And honestly, it'd be really fun to watch you and Doritos thought.

[A]

Wait, you mean if I don't tell her how I feel, it's like. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, I don't feel like I'm holding back. I mean, I just haven't seen her in a while. Please don't tell me I'm holding back in my own room.

[B]

Amanda needs to find her voice and not the one you used from your when you were five. Okay, let's use like a nice 40 year old woman's voice. Okay. Because that has a business that has a bit. Okay. Own who you are, because you need to be strong, upfront and truthful to read. Otherwise she's going to rip your head off, chop into little pieces, and serve for everyone to enjoy. And we will be laughing. Yes.

[A]

I love this. Sutton is like, I'm going to make peace with Amanda and then just fucks it up the second she walks in. It's very sudden. Well, good luck with that. That's the end of this episode. So. Yeah, here we go.

[B]

It's a quick little episode where they flew somewhere. So that's exciting. And I guess we'll see how this all pans out. In the meantime, after this, we are gonna go and recap the first episode of the Ladies of London reboot. Can't wait to talk about that. Be sure if you've got some time this weekend, settle in with some crappy's love. Check out our replay and that's at our website, watchgraphics.com and we will talk to you on the next episode. Bye, everyone. Bye. Watch what Crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King.

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