#3250 Ladies of London S4E01: Madam About You

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens #3250 – Ladies of London S4E01: Madam About You

Date: March 7, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Topic: Recap and comedic take on the rebooted Ladies of London S4E01 ("Madam About You")

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Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie celebrate the return of Ladies of London, recapping and roasting the reboot’s premiere with their signature sharp wit. They praise the wild new cast, break down the episode's major storylines—especially the “madam” rumor bombshell—and deliver their impressions, favorite lines, and early predictions for this already-chaotic season. The hosts toggle between admiration, mockery, and pure delight at the English eccentricity on display.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. First Impressions of the Reboot

[03:54]

• Ronnie: “London, for one, the new rain. Loved it. I absolutely loved it. I was surprised that I liked it…They really went and got some of the looniest people. They're all, well, not all, but the ones that are supposed to be are legit rich and legit connected. They have a gay now from Made in Chelsea who I found very funny.”
• Ben shares his initial skepticism but ended up loving it, especially after the opening party:
  “Once we sort of got past that establishing party where we met all the characters and got into their lives, I felt like the show kind of just exploded and just was so funny and perfect.”

2. Introducing the New Cast

[05:54 – 09:09]

• The episode kicks off with big “London is the best” declarations, introducing the cast:

  • Emma: Aristocratic and elegant.
  • Margo: Noted for her scandalous acting past (see below).
  • Lottie & husband Joshua: Designers with major “Tim Burton creature” vibes.
  • Mark Francis: Openly gay, deeply snobby socialite from Made in Chelsea.
    • Ben: “It felt like I was watching a regional theater and there’s a character for a British gay man. And he was on…”
    • Ronnie: Loves his deadpan and face-tuning. “He looks like a weird doll…he was cracking me up.”

• Kimmy: American in Britain for decades, always partying.

  • The hosts nickname her “the teeth,” and love her quasi-British accent.

• Martha: “Bette Davis from All About Eve” hair—a “trip” and one of their immediate favorites.

• Missy (Ms. A): Swedish model, very comfortable with nudity.

3. Standout Cast Self-Caricatures

[09:45 – 14:50]

• Mark Francis’ social web and deadpan lines become a recurring roasting point.

  • Ronnie: “He’s like, socially connected to everybody. He’s a total monster, but says everything in like, a really dead pan. Dead panel.”

• Kimmy’s freewheeling persona:

  • "If you have a glass of champagne at 11 o'clock in the morning in the States, people start telling you you're a problem...But in London, they put on a superstar badge." [11:46]

• Introduction of Micah, “the etiquette expert,” who is unfailingly upbeat—and instantly an object of British and American ridicule.

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Notable Subplots & Highlights

A. The “Madam” Rumor

[21:22 – 27:13, 33:19, 66:00+]

• Central episode drama: Is Dara, one of Micah’s friends, a “madam” (i.e., runs a brothel)?

  • Ron & Ben spotlight Kimmy and Martha as key rumor spreaders, who heard it second- or third-hand.
  • Hilarious exchange as the rumor’s meaning gets lost—“I thought a madam is like someone high maintenance, like being a diva. And Lottie’s like. Well, you could say that. But it’s like the head of a brothel, or as they call it in America, everywhere.” [65:16]

• Micah is deeply offended.

  • Micah: “In America that would be like, defamation of character, what she just did.”

• Dara, when told, is unfazed: "That bothered—You know how much that bothers me? Like, none. Like, nine." [67:14]

B. Brits vs. Americans

• The American etiquette teacher, Micah, is a recurring punchline:

  • Martha wonders aloud if “American etiquette even exists”—featuring asides about Cracker Barrel and Kid Rock.
  • Ben: “She has that earnest American quality, while the rest are just like, British and sardonic.”

• Several layered jokes about Americans loving to sue (“I love that. The Americans go straight to the suing.” – Lottie, [27:47]) and being “beneath” London society ([37:19–37:39]).

C. Eccentric Lifestyles

• Emma (Marchioness of Bath)’s Life in the Aristocracy

  • Hosts describe her as stately and historic, but with “world’s biggest house that smells like zebra” (because it doubles as a safari park).
  • Ben: “That rhino was adorable…It's a 10,000 acre estate with art and antiques and books and somewhere my Kindle. I haven't been able to find it.” [41:23]

• Martha (“Bette Davis hair”) and her magpie Hecate [45:26+]

  • Living in squalor: Hosts debate if aesthetic or actual poverty:
    “There’s bird shit coming up and down her walls. There’s stains all over the carpet. There’s paint peeling off the ceiling. I mean, it’s sad. It’s very Gray gardens.” – Ronnie [45:54]
  • Magpie, Hecate, is a star in its own right (loves martinis, attacks eyes, and is referred to in the third person).

• Margot’s Scandalous “Nine Songs” Past

  • She films a real sex scene—“most sexually explicit mainstream film in all of British history” (highlighted by tabloid headlines [54:36]).
  • “People were like, you're a whore, you're a porn star. And I was like, what? I'm an actress.” – Margot [55:02]

• Kimmy’s Odd Family:

  • Kids named Amadeus and Mimi, ex-husband named Stuart, and the giggle about knowing a “Kangaroo Amadeus” in Austin.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Ronnie on Mark:
  “He looks like a weird doll. Like his dye job, his face tuning, whatever he’s doing is crazy. And I just loved it.” [08:14]

• Ben on the cast:
  “Who is funny and who's a good character? And I think [Mark’s] a very fun [one].” [09:45]

• Kimmy’s party philosophy:
  “I need a drink every 15 minutes until I pass out, and then I want one every six minutes.” [12:07]

• Explaining Martha:
  “She dresses like she’s from the 50s. She’s an absolute trip…is she from a different period? Like, did they time machine her in here?” – Ronnie [23:00]

• Lottie’s snobbery toward Americans:
  “...we'll sue you. She's like, go make fun of us all we want. We'll still sue your asses.” [27:47]

• On Emma and Longleat Estate:
  “I live in the biggest house in America that smells like zebra. Dark. Thank you. No.” [43:37]

• Hosting with a magpie:
  Martha: “All she sees is a hole and she wants to peck it.” (re: the magpie possibly pecking out Margot’s eye) [48:20]

• Margot on returning to London:
  “I need my career back. I need more. It’s like, oh, I love that this show’s starting out with such darkness, you know?” – Ben [55:48]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Initial thoughts, excitement for the reboot:
  [03:54 – 05:54]

• Cast and character introductions:
  [05:54 – 14:50]

• The garden party and introduction of the “madam” rumor:
  [21:22 – 27:13]

• Details on Emma/Longleat, Martha’s gray gardens, and more:
  [39:02 – 47:19]

• Margot’s movie scandal & returning to London:
  [53:30 – 55:48]

• Kimmy’s personal life & kids:
  [56:20 – 59:15]

• Micah tries to defend Dara, gets “gaslit”—the madam rumor escalates:
  [66:00 – 67:14]

• Preview of the next episode (“52 hours later...drama at Dara’s dinner”)
  [71:03 – 71:33]

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Memorable Moments

• Martha’s magpie gets a gin martini. [48:54]
• Kimmy consolidating party drinks into one glass, “There’s still enough in there that counts as a serve.” [28:02]
• Margot retelling the real-life sex scene, the British press calling her a porn star, and comic reactions to it. [54:36 – 55:02]
• Hosts’ debates over Mark’s authenticity and whether his “deadpan” makes him extra or essential. [08:14 – 09:45]

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Overall Tone & Style

The hosts combine genuine enthusiasm for the bold new cast with their signature sarcasm and penchant for witty tangents. They thrive on the show’s British eccentricities, snobbery, and the beginning of what promises to be a rumor-packed, chaotic season.

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Episode Wrap

Ben and Ronnie tease what’s to come (“52 hours later” at Dara’s dinner), celebrate how strong and weird this cast is, and urge everyone to stream updates and bonus interviews on their Patreon.

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In sum:
The Ladies of London reboot delivers on all fronts: aristocratic drama, snarky banter, oddball pets, and tabloid pasts—a perfect recipe for Ben and Ronnie’s mockery and delight. The “madam” rumor sets the tone for what promises to be a gloriously messy season.

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(Note: Ad breaks, sponsor segments, intros/outros, and tangential plugs were omitted.)

Transcript

[A]

Howdy, howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[B]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[A]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[B]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[B]

cares what there's so much that happens. Hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the magpie loving ziggy swallowing Ronnie Caram. How are you, Ronnie?

[A]

Good. Hello. Wow. A new season of Ladies of London.

[B]

It's back, baby. We are so excited. We are covering today the first episode of the two episode premiere. We will bring the second episode recap on Monday, but for right now, we got the first one. Ladies of London is back. We are thrilled. We've always been fans of the original. You can actually go back into our archives if you want to hear some of those recaps. But before we dive into this tremendous reboot, let's just give a reminder that you only have one week left to watch the crappies replay. That's at watchwithcrappins.com if you want to check that out is after that it's gone forever. So go check it out. It was an amazing, amazing, amazing time. And thanks again to everyone who helped us on stage, backstage, everywhere, who helped us put on that show. I can't believe it's been a week already since we put it on. Also, we have a. If you want to read more about it, there's a new newsletter that we put out that's free for everyone. You don't have to be a Patreon member. It just lives there and where Ron and I both wrote about our experiences with the crappies, both leading up to it. Putting it on. There's some photos, there's videos, like behind the scenes stuff. It's really cool. So check that out. Also, our bonus episode this week is a free bonus episode and it's a double bonus episode. We interviewed both Candace and Rob Cerenino. I should say Candace Dillard Bassett made it sound like they're married. Candace Dillard Bassett and Rob Cerenino, both from the Traders. And we talked to them both about the Traders and they are just great. They are so fun and they were great interviews. So check that out on our bonus feeds. And then you know, all the other usual fun stuff. Video. You know, what else? What else is there to say? Video Patreon. Am I missing something right? Ad free is on patreon too. So patreon.com watchallcrappens and with all that out of the way, let's talk about the London reboot. Ronnie, thoughts? Impressions.

[A]

London, for one, the new rain. Loved it. I absolutely loved it. I was surprised that I liked it. I thought it was going to be stupid, honestly. And then with the Real Housewives of London going to another network and not being on this one, I was kind of annoyed because, you know, we only watched the first episode of that, but it was so good. And I was like, why didn't we get this? I want this. And so I just assumed that this would suck because it wasn't that. And it does not suck. I mean, they really went and got some of the looniest people. They're all, well, not all, but the ones that are supposed to be are legit rich and legit connected. They have a gay now from Made in Chelsea who I found very funny. He's such a snob. I thought he was really funny. I just loved it. I mean, I loved all the characters. Like these are people you want on a Real Housewives type show. You. You know.

[B]

Yeah. I did not realize that the gay, AKA what was his name again? Andrew. Mark. Mark Francis. Mark Francis. I didn't realize that he was from maiden Chelsea. That's hilarious. Yeah, I thought it was great. I thought they got a wonderful cast. When the trailer came out, I remember enjoying the trailer and I was shocked that people were like, this looks boring. I was like, what? This already looks really good. And I think this premiere was great. I hope people watched it. I feel like it was actually. People were not talking about it leading up to it very much. But then today on social media, everyone's talking about it. So I'm hoping. I'm hoping that it gets traction because this is a great cast. And, you know, the show had like this 15 minute opening party, which was. I thought the opening party was fine. I was like, oh, is this going to be good? And then once that. Once we sort of got past that establishing party where we met all the characters and got into their lives, I felt like the show kind of just exploded and just was so funny and perfect. I was like, oh, my God, I love this show. I'm into it.

[A]

So we start off with the typical, like, London. London is the best. With different characters being like, london. It's the best cosmopolitan city in the world. London is like the capital of the world. Everybody's dressed so cool in London. London is so grand. It's so cool.

[B]

There's nothing like London.

[A]

And then big pink letters say Emma, right?

[B]

Because of course there's someone named Emma on the show, like Emma. And then Emma is very elegant. She's very aristocracy. And then Margo, she made one of the sexiest British films. I mean, this is basically the trailer, you know. So we're just seeing a sort of like a sizzle real moment. Like there's this person, there's Lottie and Mark and Miss A and M. And we're just seeing all this stuff like left and right, left and right, left and right.

[A]

So an American coming in to teach etiquette. I was like, oh, good luck, sucker.

[B]

Yeah, Brits love that. An American coming in to teach etiquette. I'm like, are we allowed to do that? I feel like it's like in the British constitution, Americans shall not come to

[A]

this country until, my God, walking cringe. American. Yikes. But seems so sweet as well. So we see London, you know, of course. And then Mark is the first one to talk. Of course. It's a show about ladies. Give the guy the. The opening line. But he's like, well, there's a. We call summer in London the season, because it's when everything happens. It's when London is in full bloom. There quite simply isn't enough time. No matter how many champagnes are bored, there's just too much to do. On any given summer's day, you will find a marvelous garden party.

[B]

So I Was not as sold on Mark. I was so excited for there to be a British gay on the cast. People, people were actually upset about that. They're like, it's called Laundon. Why is there a guy there? I'm like, okay, relax everyone. And so I actually was like. Actually came into this show ready to, like, just have this man's back. Be like, he deserves a spot. I found him to be actually a little annoying. I felt like he was a bit like. It felt like I was watching a regional theater and there's a character for a British gay man. And he was on. There's like, hello, Horad. Fabulous. I mean, maybe that's just who he is. That's why he was like. I just felt like he was. He was like, putting it on a bit and I was like, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

I 100 love him. I find him to be completely dead inside, which I loved. And I don't think he's faking that. And he's just like a real phony, frilly gay, you know, he's like one of the richest in the group. He's like socially connected to everybody. He's a total monster, but says everything in like, a really dead pan. Dead panel. Yeah. I thought he was absolutely. He looks like a dollar. Like a weird doll. Like his dye job, his face tuning, whatever he's doing is crazy. And I just loved it. I wasn't expecting to like him either, but I really. He was cracking me up. And then it helped that after I saw clips of people posting of him in Maiden Chelsea and I was like, yeah, he's. He's really funny. Well, I haven't seen the club that everyone's going to. And he's like, well, I'll never step a foot in there. Why not? Because everyone else is there.

[B]

Maybe I just need like a learning curve with him. I've only watched the first episode. I'm gonna watch the second one this weekend. And, you know, he definitely does seem like a phony, and I never want to get on his bad side. He is definitely one of those vicious gays who will just destroy anyone he doesn't like. And so my days are probably numbered in London at this point. I just have to wrap my head around it. Like, I. I do like your perspective on it. Like, he's just dead inside and. And fake. And like, rather than me being like, he's so inauthentic, be like, wait, no, that's his brand. That's what makes him fun to watch is like, that's a good. That's a good way. That's a good way in for me on his character.

[A]

Well, I don't look at these and think like, oh my gosh, who do I like? I think, who is funny and who's a good character? And I think he's a good. He's a very fun. And plus, we get to do this voice, but I mean, that's a little Martin Lawrence Ballard. But he does have that, like, to his voice, he just doesn't have as much, like, personality in it. It's very, like, deadpan. So I'll work on it. But we go to Kimmy. Which one's Kimmy? I'm gonna be asking that a lot.

[B]

Kimmy. Kimmy is. Okay. I pulled up the cast because I'm still.

[A]

Oh, Kimmy's the teeth. She's like his best friend, right?

[B]

Kimmy is. Oh yeah, Kimmy's the teeth. Kimmy's the American who has been in Britain long enough that she now has like a quasi British accent. She's like, fabulous. Why am I not drunk right now?

[A]

She's always laughing at everything Mark says. Okay, there are two characters in here. Kimmy and then the lady with Bette Davis from All About Eve. Hair.

[B]

That's Martha.

[A]

Martha. I know. So Kimmy and Martha are my favorite. They both have this super like, oh, it's so fun. Ha ha ha ha ha. And they're laughing like maniacally. But then they're also really dark. They've got like this super dark undertone to them. And so I love both of them immediately. So Kimmy's like, oh, I first when he was 19. And I've got to say, if I wanted a sperm donor, I would have. He's so good looking.

[B]

Yeah. Crazy Mark. Mark tells us, I'm not a socialite. I'm a social animal. I live for people and I get all my energy from people. I bring lots of people together and I just throw them all in one room and wait to see what happens. And Kimmy is one of those people who reminds you that life is so much more fun when you just let go, let an American in and just see what happens.

[A]

My God. Let me prove this by. Is that a fan? Is that a. Oh, I love a fan. Who. I'm gonna put it on my Hoo. Hahaha.

[B]

So Kimmy shows up at this garden party at the Topsmouth house, and she has a big floral headdress and she's like, I've been living in London now for 25 years and there's not as Much judgment here as there is in America. If you have a glass of champagne at 11 o' clock in the morning in the States, people start telling you you're a problem Dr.

[A]

Two days earlier, she's telling a waiter, I need a drink every 15 minutes until I pass out, and then I want one every six minutes.

[B]

But in London, they put on a super you. They put John, like a superstar badge or something like that. If you drink like that, I mean, come on in.

[A]

So next we get Miss. Hey, Missy. They pronounce it Missy, but she's got an accent over the E. Yeah, I don't know, it's like.

[B]

And on top of that, she's also Swedish. So, like this faux French version of the word of the name Missy. It just doesn't seem to make any sense.

[A]

Well, let me tell you, Missy's hot. And she knows it. She's like, I like sexy looks. I'm very comfortable in my own skin. Well, then why aren't you wearing it? Because that is not your own skin. I don't know whose it is, but you look crazy.

[B]

Sometimes I look at Missy's outfits and I think, you're just waiting for a breeze, aren't you? Nip slips, her best friend.

[A]

Well, if I had a body like that, I'd be half naked, too. Am I right? So Missy comes and sits with them, and Kimmy's like, well, you look particularly naked and hot.

[B]

I grew up in Sweden and I work as a model. For most of my life, I traveled the world. But there's something about London that I always come back to, especially for my job, you know, with fashion, with modeling. People, like, know my name here because I'm Missy. Spelled Miss A, but Swedish.

[A]

Mithy, were you in a bizarre. Were you in a bizarre. Oh, you must have been, because look at you. You're so tired. You turn so easily. I'm not tanned until September.

[B]

So here comes Micah, the etiquette expert from America. Ooh, Mika's just so nice. And it's not a facade. She's. She's not trying to play you. But in London, it's not something we're very well accustomed to, you know, Americans. So Mika comes in and she gives Mark a little gift, and he's like, no, no, I mustn't. I mustn't. I. I promised my mother that I would never be seen in public receiving a gift from an American. Please, please send this away from me.

[A]

Don't ruin me. Dartmouth House, please. So she comes in and she's wearing. She's The.

[B]

No, Mika is the etiquette expert.

[A]

Oh, Micah. Micah.

[B]

Oh, Micah. I'm sorry, Micah.

[A]

So she comes in, she looks like Hannah Brown from the Bachelor or who's like another squinty eyed person.

[B]

I don't know why. She sort of reminded me of Gloria Stefan in the. Like. Like 1991. I don't know why. It's probably not a proper comparison, but for some reason, I just kept on thinking, Gloria Stefan.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, she's very friendly, which is disgusting in this town. Say hi, everybody. Wow. There's nobody like Mark. Everybody knows Mark. You'll walk into a restaurant and you can't get to the table because he's stopping at every single table before your table to say hello. I was like, she's gonna get eaten up. Oh, she's. They're gonna eat this girl up. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. Howdy, howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[B]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the smash Daddy.

[A]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

Hey. So each week, you'll get my unfiltered, raw reactions to every single chapter.

[A]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers. Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[B]

News flash, I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you can find Fantasy Fan Fellas wherever you get your podcasts. This is an ad by BetterHelp. Did I talk too much? Can't I just let it go? Thank you so much.

[A]

Take a breath.

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[A]

Next up is Lottie. Lottie is a graphic designer, and she's married to this guy who's kind of. He looks like. I think he looks like a joker on a deck of cards.

[B]

Yeah, because they do. They are. They also like, tailors or. They are.

[A]

He's a tailor.

[B]

He's a tailor to the stars. And they, like, work with celebrities to give it Give looks. So does she do the design for, like, the prints and everything? And then he tailors it. Is that what it is?

[A]

Yeah, I think she said. At first I thought she was like a fashion designer, but then I read a bio and it said she's a graphic designer here. She just says she's a designer and he's a tailor.

[B]

They both look like Tim Burton creatures. And so Micah's like, lottie and Joshua are super cool kids. They're trendsetters in the know of everything. They do what they want. They don't care what people think, which I love about them, except for the fact that I professionally am in the business of having people care what you do, because that's etiquette, anyway.

[A]

And this guy is real weird looking on purpose, you know, he's like real pale and super skinny. He's got long, straightened hair and he's like. He's got, like a little twisted mustache. He's like, oh, hello, I'm an oh, duck, everybody. And Kimmy's like, oh, look at you, Joshua. How your. Your look matches what I like, like, cool taxidermy sort of thing. And they just stare at her. And so we see a split screen of her stuffed bird in her house and then Joshua next to each other, and she goes, oh, don't worry. I love everything that's dead. Looking

[B]

glad is like. I work with my husband, Joshua Keane, celebrity Taylor to the Stars. We both work in design and we do a lot of red carpets. Tom Holland, Jason Manmoa. We dress Sabrina Carpenter for the Brit Awards, you know, that kind of thing. And Kimmy's like, mark and I, we were lovers in the 90s. Then we decided we could do better right now.

[A]

Darling, I wasn't even born in the 90s, you fucking bitch. Contain yourself.

[B]

Is Emma coming? Emma's in cans. She's got work to do. And so we see Emma, and it says, this is Emma. And. And Emma's just in Cannes, and she's smiling and we just go back.

[A]

She's like, it's me. I'm Emma, glamorously smiling and Khan. Then we go back to Lottie, and she's like, well, Micah, obviously we know you do, like, etiquette stuff, but, like British etiquette or American etiquette? Because, like, does American etiquette even exist?

[B]

That's in British.

[A]

Sorry, but I've heard something in America called the Cracker Barrel. This is a true thing.

[B]

I turned on the television and I saw something called a Kid Rock. And this is the land that apparently has some sort of etiquette.

[A]

Well, my company, Beaumont Etiquette, it's an etiquette consultancy where I teach people from all over the world etiquette. Okay. Show my book, Business Etiquette Made Easy the Essential Guide to Professional Success.

[B]

Yeah. People come to me from all over the world to give them confidence because they see me and they say, you know what? It could be worse. I could be American. And then they go back to wherever country they came from and just feel so much more empowered.

[A]

So we see a little clip of her teaching somebody, and she's like, no. The way that you approach an audience is you come out, you look everybody straight in the eye with your mouth a little open. Your eyes are open. Your mouth is open. Okay, so you go like this, and you say, hello, and you look everybody in the eye, and the lady's like, hello. Okay, A little more work a little more. Open your mouth more. Okay. Okay. Stick your tongue out just a little bit. Okay. Eyes open. Now look at me. Okay. You're doing great. You're doing great.

[B]

I love that American etiquette includes how to walk on stage at your own talk show. Well, part of American etiquette is fork on the left, knife on the right, and make sure your mouth is open a little bit when you start your talk show. We all have talk shows, right?

[A]

Well, yeah. You know, the table setting's different, so I will tell you that. And Lottie's like, oh, stop the cutlery on the outside. Yeah. So nobody wants to sit next to me at the dinner table. Kimmy's like, I don't. I haven't even gotten to cutlery yet.

[B]

Well, there's this wonderful woman who I won't name, and every time her husband cheats on her, she was overjoyed. And Missy is like, no. What? Yes. Yes. Because it meant she got a new Picasso. And so she ended up with one of the world's greatest collections of Picassos. But, of course, she had to pretend she was mortified until the picture was up, and then she was there calling for more girls. More girls. Get me those Picassos.

[A]

She had an escort agency on speed dial. That's your friend, I must say, is like, who are we talking about? Oh, apparently, Micah, your friend is a madam. Is that true? And she's like, wait, what? What friend? Dara. She's a madam. We all know about it. And Micah's like, oh, my God. Not. Not my friend Dara.

[B]

Flashback to two days earlier. Kimi's at A restaurant with Mark and Martha. And we have Kimmy saying, this Dara girl, do you know her? And Martha's like, oh, I called someone else who knows her, and they told me she's a madam.

[A]

Oh, nice. Well, that's what I heard. Mark's like, oh, she's not coming to this party. No madam's allowed at garden party at the Dartmouth. Oh, wait, she's not coming. And Martha's like, well, I suppose you work 247 when you're madam, don't you, Miss Martha Chick? I can't stress enough. So she looks 30 in a way. And she's got in. In certain lights. Like, she just. It's so crazy because she looks so different every time you look at her. And she's got this haircut. Her hairstyle is just like Bette Davis from All About Eve. I mean, it's curled like. She puts the curls in her hair, but only on the sides. She dresses like she's from the 50s. She's an absolute trip. And yeah, she talks like this. But I immediately loved her because I was like, is she. Is she from a different period? Like, did they time machine her in here? And she wears the hair the same every time you see her.

[B]

Yeah, it's amazing. It sort of reminds me of Madonna in her Evita era when she wants to be taken seriously. And she was also sort of, like, wearing that kind of hairstyle around at all the award shows. And this lady, she is, like, already top tier. Bravo Liberty. I mean. I mean, this show in general, the Ladies of London franchise has a way of finding some, like, best of the bests, you know, of that Bravo has ever had to offer between Caroline Stanberry and Caroline Fleming, who I hope makes some sort of return. And now this lady. I mean, really, it's just so good. There's just such a. Such a pool of talent for Bravo Liberties over there in London. So we're back to present, and Kimmy is saying, is it true? Is she really a madam? Is Daryl really a madam? And Mika's like, like, what? No, she's like a Harvard architect. And he says, like, no, this is. It's not nice. It's not nice to say this. Like, yeah, she's highly intelligent. Why would you say that? Well, she could moonlight as something that makes more money than being an architect. Last time I checked, London was built 500 years ago.

[A]

Right? Well, it's very untrue. And I've known her since college, and we've known each other for 40. I mean, for 24 years. Sorry, that was dyslexia. We've known each other for 24 years. Kimmy's like, but how do you know, though? I mean, you can know somebody and not know that they're madam, right? And she's like, well, I work right above her in the same office. And so then we see Dara, and it says, this is Dara on the screen three days earlier. So Micah comes down and she's like, I was 17 when I met Dara. Our friendship has always been pretty strong. Cut to Dara, she goes, yeah, we weren't really super close. Yeah, well, we met at the University of Florida. And Florida and Darren, I have called each other Bunny for over a decade. Oh, my God, she calls me Bunny. She's such a loser.

[B]

Dara is so unimpressed by Micah. So Micah enters the office and she's like, hey. She's like, hey, Bunny. Dar's like, yeah, can you just call me by my regular name? Thanks.

[A]

Fast forward. We're both in London and we meet back up, and we're still not that close.

[B]

We always support each other through career, motherhood, friendship, Bunny things.

[A]

Michael looks up to me for business, and I feel like she's still really trying to find out what it is that will bring her success. And she's not quite there yet.

[B]

So Micah gives Dara a little box and there's like, what's this? It's a gift. It's a productivity tool for us.

[A]

Oh, okay. Let me. Oh, wow. Pink walkie talkies. Oh, wow. Do they have to be pink, though? Okay, I love this. Can someone put this in a drawer somewhere in another building? Possibly.

[B]

Could maybe someone write a memo to Dara that I'm a successful architect and we're not in high school anymore? Okay, just. Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Back to the garden party. This is poor etiquette to be starting rumors like that, I can tell you that much. And this could not be further from the truth. And Lottie's like, no, of course it's not. She's a very professional woman. Well, they usually are, aren't they, darling?

[B]

So now they're just like. Now they're looking at Kimmy. And she's. Kimmy's like, well, I heard from Martha that your friend Dara, she's a madam. And Micah's like, oh, God, no. What? So. And Kimmy's like, well, I didn't say that. That she's not nice. I just thought I'd brought. I. I just thought I'd brough my CV with me. Ho, ho.

[A]

The word madam isn't really something that you would throw around, especially at a garden party. Well, I did go on a date that she set me up on. I mean, I'm a model. And then they all start cracking up. And Missy's like, yeah, well, I thought that she was going to be showing up for the date, too, but she never showed up. It was just me and some old man. That was. That was. She was hooking you up, I'm sure. Well, she likes to connect people together. I don't know. Not. No. Are you a madam for that or. No, I didn't get paid.

[B]

Kimmy's like, could you excuse me for one moment? I need to be fabulous in a different section of this boring party. So she walks away. And Lottie, Micah and Ms. A are together. And Lottie's like, well, that was wild. And Mrs. Like, yes, that's a really funny thing to say about the madam thing. Tuck talk. And Mika's like. Micah's like, well, in America that would be like defamation of character, what she just did. And Lottie's like, I love that. The Americans go straight to the suing. Lottie is so snobby about Americans. Like, she has dissed Micah, like two or three times already.

[A]

Yeah, but seriously. Yeah, but, like, we'll sue you. She's like, go make fun of us all we want. We'll still sue your asses. So then we go to Kimmy and she's getting drinks off a tray and consolidating them into one glass. She's like, pouring one into another and taking the big glass.

[B]

And then she's like, like. And now you can still sell that one. You can still serve that one. There's still enough in there that counts as a serve.

[A]

So they're asking, where's Martha? Where's Martha? And now here come Martha and Margo arriving and. Wait, where are we now? Are we at the same thing?

[B]

No, same party. It was like. The party is, like, quite long. Everyone's arriving. So Martha and Margo arrived together. Martha is the one we love, we were talking about. And Margo is an American who's also an actress.

[A]

So they show her this really thin purple dress and her nips are out. So everyone's like, oh, my goodness.

[B]

Nipples.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. Not in the Dartmouth.

[B]

Kimmy is here. Kimmy's a good time. I've known her for nearly 20 years now, and I met Kimmy through one of our great British milliners, Philip Treacy. Philip Treacy, yes, look at him. And Kimmy is Like, yeah. One day he said to me, kimmy, I want you to meet your blonde nemesis. And I was. When it was Martha to sit well, and I was like, I'll tell you what sits well with me. This. Hey.

[A]

Took us both to Derby as his reservoir. Yeah. Martha got in the car and she was like, oh, my God, I need more cigarettes. But I've run out of money. I just love her. And I paid for a lot of cigarettes. They're very expensive now.

[B]

Yes. We just went and set the town on fire, quite literally. Have you ever throwing a match at a poor person's home? It's great fun.

[A]

Well, I've known Martha Gorse at least a decade. Oh, how did I meet Mark? Let me think. Oh, I've always found her intriguing, interesting, brilliant, unique, opaque.

[B]

I definitely met Mark at a party. But don't ask me more details than that because I was absolutely hammered, as I am right now. I'd like to add, well, someone's got

[A]

their nipples out today. She's like, yeah, I didn't realize how cold it was gonna be, but they're hard.

[B]

So then other drinking, and then Kimmy's like, let's get a chad of tequila. But Martha's. No, no, no. She's. She's sober. This one over here, American. And Margot's like, yes. Can I have something mocktaily? They're like, it's gross. Boring.

[A]

Well, I'm from South Carolina. I go. I got to London when I was 18. I stayed here until I was 30, and then I move, and now I'm back in London this summer to work on a British TV show called the Trip. Margaret and I met over 20 years ago.

[B]

Yeah. She was dating this Persian prince, and her brother had a big crush on me, of course. I mean, his brother. And I was like. He was like. I was like, this is. This girl's amazing. And she was so beautiful and so fun and so. She was so warm and like, he loved me.

[A]

Yeah. So now Lottie, Missy and Micah approach them, and Kimmy's like, oh, these are the ones that told me the difference. Dara story, madam. Oh, well, I simply cannot keep a secret. I mean, Margot heard that Dara was a madam, so of course I spread the rumor. I mean, we heard a rumor. It may not, may or may not be true, but what's a rumor if you're not going to spread in it?

[B]

You have to remember that British madam is much higher than American aristocracy. So really, it's a compliment to elevator that high.

[A]

Well, I've known Dara for 22 years or 24 years. We met as teenagers at the University of Florida, and she went to Harvard and I went to New York. And Margot goes, University of Florida, madam side. Harvard, not madam side. So they're fucking relentless. And it's cracking me up. Like, not one of them is like, that's terrible. We shouldn't say that. Like, so shut up. She's a madam Universe. University of Florida. Keep adding to the evidence.

[B]

Yeah, seriously. So Margot is like. I mean, this girl said to me, oh, she's like, really spicy and difficult. So now we have another flashback of Dara talking to Micah. And Dara's like, so I just went to Courchevel where we had a 33 grand bottle of wine, okay? And it's like, this is Dara again. They keep doing that. They keep putting this, like, big brash font up.

[A]

Every time they call Dara an asshole,

[B]

they go, this is Dara.

[A]

So Margo's. Margo says, yeah. And another woman was like, oh, I think she's a madam. Well, it could not be further from the truth. Well, the thing about me not drinking is that I get, like, really bored and I need to, like, entertain myself somehow. So let's just keep talking about her being a madam.

[B]

Oh, come up with new travel. So Micah's like, dara is not here to defend herself, and it's up to me to stick up for Dara because I would want her to do the same for me. That's what friendship is. And poor, poor Micah. She does have that kind of, like, earnest American quality, while the rest are just like, British and sardonic. Even, like, even Marco, who is American. And Margo and Kimmy are both American, but they have now adopted just being British and sardonic. And they're like, oh, please, she's a madam. And she's. That makes her all the better for at least she's interesting and like, you etiquette person. So then we go to Micah is Dara.

[A]

Yeah, she's really stupid and I hope she dies. Back to the party. Well, she spends every hour working. She's a good mom. She's a good friend. She's a real professional. She's a worker. She's an architect. She's an entrepreneur. She knows how to open her eyes and her mouth when she says hello. She's so smart. She could not be further from a madam. The time just clicks and everyone's getting

[B]

really bored with her.

[A]

And then, you know, she can roller skate, I think. I mean, it's on her special skills. I'm not sure if she really can. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure she can. Going to grow to love her. You're just going to love her.

[B]

Everybody, they're like, we're bored of you. So L and Missy are talking, and Ms. Is like, I just feel it a bit bad. And Auntie's like, why was that? Too much time talking to an American. Same for me. She's like, no, because Micah, she's so nice. And, you know, we were. We were, you know, where we left the lunch. And she was like, yeah. Three DAYS EARLIER Lottie.

[A]

Dara. Dara.

[B]

This is Dara at lunch. This is a pitch at lunch.

[A]

Lunch. Micah is my friend. Like, I've known her since college, but, like, we're very different people.

[B]

Oh, Back to present. Lottie speaking. I remember that lunch.

[A]

And then we left the lunch and we were talking about our car. We were walking about to our cause, and Dara said that she was, like, embarrassed of her. Like Darius was saying, she's so cringe. And you know when you know someone from your past and you're embarrassed, they're going to embarrass you because you built this whole new image. Well, yeah, that's. Do you think I should tell her or not?

[B]

Lottie's like, well, if you want to get involved in other people's business, then you can. But if I were you, I wouldn't be doing that. I think it'd be more fun if we just laughed behind Micah's back, don't you? British don't forget.

[A]

Yeah. So Lottie is also pregnant, and nobody knows yet except Missy and Dara, because she told them at that lunch. So she's like, oh, my God, I need to. Lottie's like, well, I wanted to get everyone together because I wanted to. Wanted to tell you I'm actually pregnant. By who? Not that stick figure with an evil villain wig.

[B]

How does someone created in stop animation get a human pregnant? By the way, this is the cast

[A]

of Nightmare Before Christmas in your belly.

[B]

By the way, this is the difference between British people and Americans. Because if it were American, an American, it would be a whole party, and they would arrive in a carriage and then go up a staircase and be like, everyone, I'm so glad that you're here, because guess what? And it'd be like doves would come out and fireworks and be like, I'm pregnant. But here she's like, guys, gather round. Well, you're close enough. That one's not. I'm not even sure. Do you count as being in the circle right now? Are you in the group? I'm pregnant, guys. Okay, carry on.

[A]

They're like, oh, wow, someone's adding more to the London traffic. Thanks. Thanks for that.

[B]

So Mark is like, bring her a glass of wine immediately. That was a joke. Not just like, no, no. Okay. You can't tell Mark. Okay? I'm like, this still. Look, I've got a teeny, tiny bump. Don't I look hideous?

[A]

Well, I just thought you had ibs. Well, I'm pregnant, not fat. I mean, come on. I'm up the duff, babe. Yeah. And we see on screen, it says, up the duff is British slave playing for pregnant.

[B]

And then the next screen says, you dumb Americans, this is Dara.

[A]

He looks like she's up the duff. Gotta hate Micah. Back to present. So Kimmy. Kimmy needs a strong drink now. And now we watch Micah walk down the street, and she's. She's like, okay, here's how it works in the uk, there's royals, and then there are aristocrats, and then there's just other members of London in society, and they don't have this in America. So the Americans are like, whoa. But here, you could be sitting at a pub next to a lady or next to a prince, and it's actually very common. And it's like seeing Jessica, just her. Jessica Parker in New York City. I mean, it just happens all the time.

[B]

Lottie bumps in and says, you know, while we're mentioning it, yes, they're royals, and there's aristocrats and the members of London society. Then you have basically people on the street, commoners, rats, general sewage, and then the Americans that come over to visit. Commercials.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[B]

News flash, I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you can find Fantasy Fanfellas wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

So now we go to Martha. So Martha scene. And she's like, my title is Martha Lady Stillwell. My lady title came from marrying a Berryman, which is the lowest on the rung, let's be honest. But it's not a hereditary title. Hard blink. Hard blink. Hard blink, yes. Hereditary titles have been done away with now. So what? Great Granny Fucked Kim Charles. King Charles, whatever. It doesn't really matter now. All right, hierarchy of English nobility. Let's go through duke, dut, marquess, earl, viscount, baron, baronet. You've got it. Has everyone got it?

[B]

And then we. And now we have our first real moment with Emma. So Emma's like, my title is Marchioness of Bath. My husband is the Marquess of Bath. And Micah probably needs a bath. She's American. Just want to throw that in there. I'm catching up because I wasn't at the party.

[A]

The embodiment of modern aristocrat. She's cool, she's trendy, but at the same time, she holds a great grace, the weight of being one of Britain's most important aristocrats.

[B]

She's also the first black woman to be married into an aristocracy family. And I think Meghan Markle tries to claim that, but it was actually Emma. I'm like, oh, of course. This show is gonna take some strays at Meghan Markle.

[A]

So now we see 160km west of London, and we're at Longleat, Emma's Wilshire country home. She's like, I'm of mixed heritage, half Nigerian, half English. The press commented heavily on the fact that I was going to become the first woman of color to hold this title. Let's put up a headline, racism feud at Longleat. Her claims his mother suggested his Nigerian wife would harm the bloodline. Fine, thank you. And I acknowledge the fact that I'm the only one still. The only woman of color in this position is me. Still to this day and now I would never say suck it, married Megan Markle, but I will imply it.

[B]

I did it first. What does it mean in 2025 to have a title? Well, for me, it matters in the context of the estate and the house and the family. My husband spelled C E, A W, L, I, N, which I've been told is a spelling that makes no sense to Americans. They don't know how to pronounce it. Is it a culin? Ze cowling? It's our little British inside joke. We come up with these names just to be fuddle them.

[A]

It's probably Colin, don't you think, Colin?

[B]

It's probably John. Yeah.

[A]

Well, we run the Longleat house. So. Longleat house is a stately home. It was built in The Elizabethan Times. 1518. Bought for €4,54, I think. Oh, wow. And now it's like $205 million.

[B]

It's the biggest house in the UK, by the way. That's right. It's huge. It's a 10,000 acre estate with art and antiques and books and somewhere. My Kindle. I haven't been able to find it. A very huge collection of beautiful things. Longleat is our main home. But then the kids go to school in London now. So I'm half in London, half in Longleat. And no two days are the same. I'm dying inside.

[A]

Well, we've seen this before now with the Earl of Sandwich and his wife Julie. Remember?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When they were like, oh my God, I'm actually a real lady and we own this big house. It's like so crazy. And then like her second season, she's like, oh, my God, I can't afford this house. Oh, God.

[B]

We're gonna go, bro.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I'm gonna roll dates into a ball. And this will support the entire house.

[A]

What if we served sandwiches at the Earl of Sandwich Castle? Oh, my God. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do yoga videos. Maybe I could of videos. Jump balls. Jump balls. Julie makes balls. Julie makes balls.

[B]

Oh, God, Julie. She did seem like, so, like, ooh, she's the. The. She. She's married to the. The Earl of Bath. Wow. Like, look at her. She's so fancy on the side and she was a nutcase. So then Emma's. We see Emma with her manager and they're going over the schedule and she's like, well, it's very important that you go to the. You have to be ready for the season, Mum.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The London Royal Academy. You've got to go there, Mum. And the Serpentine summer party. Mum. Are you ready to get with that one, Mom? And also you're going to Rome with. There's lots, lots of words that Ben Mandela is not used to saying.

[A]

Mithrasa to run the estate costs a fortune. So my husband's grandfather had the foresight that there needed to be an income from somewhere. So we opened it to the public, which was incredibly controversial. The Queen was very cross with him. RIP bitch. Because imagine having people running through your house. But he was a pioneer. A pioneer, I tell you. He's turned it into A zoo. He opened the first safari park in the world outside Africa. And now Longleat is one of the top 10% attractions in the world. It's incredibly public. I live in the biggest house in America. That smells like zebra. Dark. Thank you. No.

[B]

They really love saying fu to the crown. First they open up one of these houses to the public, and then they put in safari animals. And then the craziest thing of all, someone who's not white gets married in. But I just love the fact they turned it into a safari. That's crazy. Yes, that's right. I have a safari that I have to pay attention to now. I'm so excited. I did not think that this would be my life at all in a million years. I was moving to Beverly Hills. I was not planning to be in. In Wiltshire. I thought I was going to be living near Wilshire Boulevard. And yet somehow now I'm feeding giraffes. How did this happen? How is this part of the aristocracy?

[A]

But you know, you fall in love, you get engaged, and that's what you do. You follow the money. The money has left me to cleaning up rhino dung. So here we are. Let's. Let's go bait the rhinos, shall we?

[B]

Well, I'm just about full from that scone, so I guess it's time to throw mud on the rhino.

[A]

Ma', am, you've got the serpentine ball. You've got to get to roam with Ms. Etheria. Oh, don't forget, we've got to mud bathe the rhinos first. She's like, oh, God. So we go and she gives a mud bath to a rhino. And the rhino is so cute, like, lazy. And she talks to it and it kind of talks back. She's like, do you like this? And it's like. She's like, oh, my God, it really responded. Lady, pretend that you do this every day.

[B]

Yeah, I know, but that rhino was adorable. So cute. Just coming over to get its mud and then rolling over, you know, Even though they could just probably set up a mud bath for the rhino in the pen, it's cute that they go and put it on him.

[A]

Now this is the classy way to have animals in your home. Now let's go to Martha. The tackiest, saddest way to have animals in your home. Martha, take it away.

[B]

Martha, who's a lady and a model, she lives in this like, cramped, cluttered, kind of like decrepit apartment flat. But then you start to realize, like, oh, actually, I think this is her aesthetic. I think she Actually wants to look kind of like, frozen in time, like an antique shop. Like, it's not that she's whores, it's that she just likes having knickknacks around and toy airplanes hanging on her wall, you know?

[A]

No, no. Then we find out, no, no. She's. She's poor, and she keeps getting kicked out from places. I mean, there's literally bird shit. She has a magpie as a pet, is flying all over the place, and there's bird shit coming up and down her walls. There's stains all over the carpet. There's paint peeling off the ceiling. I mean, it's sad. It's very Gray gardens. And she is frozen in time, you know, with that. That hair and everything. And what I really like about her is, first of all, I love a hard blink because that's, like, shows something. Something off. And she does this, like, wonderful, like, fabulous. Like, I'm always happy. And then she gets really dark and really depressed, and then hard blinks it away and she's happy again. It's the weirdest thing. And I'm obsessed with this lady.

[B]

Yeah. She's like, babe, babe, come down here. And she's like, I would say that I have a unique flatmate, and it's a bird. She has a magpie as her pet, and its name is Hecate Hekate. And magpies, like, I. My. I feel like what I know about magpies is that, like, for instance, they attack bikers in Australia, right? Like, they are known for attacking humans when they are, like, you know, in heat, when they're. When they're horny or when they're. Or when they feel like a human's gotten too close to, like, their. Their nest or the babies, they just, like, swoop down and they attack people all the time. And I'm like, wait, you got one as a pet that. Yeah, of course she does.

[A]

And she's sitting there feeding him worms. He's just eating.

[B]

She like, hey.

[A]

God, he's such a diva. It's like living with Mariah Carey.

[B]

If Mariah Carey could fly.

[A]

I mean, she's fabulous.

[B]

She's feral.

[A]

The.

[B]

That magpie only likes to be shot from its left side. So Marco's like, oh, look, look, we have a dog. Okay. And here comes Margot. Hello, Margo. How are you? Good to see you again. And Margot comes in, and she's like, oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, my God, Martha, what's happening to you? She's like, I'm an actress. I fucking hate this bird.

[B]

And the bird is like, Flying around. And Margo's like, this. This feels unsanitary. I don't think I should even be here. She's like, okay, all right, I'm gonna give you some goggles. You can see what happens is if he's on your shoulder and your iris moves, if she sees something, just a small move, her natural reflex, stick a beak in it. So she might just peck out your eyeball and we wouldn't want that, do we?

[A]

All she sees is a hole and she wants to peck it. She's like, oh, my God, Margot, Martha, please. No. And she tells us Martha is too pretty and young to be in her bird era. Oh, my God. She goes, my eyes are really valuable to me. She goes, I know, I know. They're so pretty.

[B]

Just don't look directly at Hecate. She doesn't like to be stared at. She's very demanding. Be careful. You know, she demands three hot paths a day and a gin martini at 6 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[B]

And we see that she literally gives this bird a gin martini.

[A]

Yeah, the bird's sitting there sipping on a martini. But bird air is for when you're, like, really old and you have a bird sitting down your back and sitting on your shoulder. I mean, come on, you can't be on your 40s and have a bird, Martha.

[B]

So now, Margot,

[A]

sorry, Hecate got very upset. Margot, no, I don't want a worm.

[B]

Margo's literally sitting there with goggles on and the bird is, like, on her shoulder. She's like, sorry, I unfortunately can't put her away. I met. So Margot says that she met Margot, Martha, 20 years ago. And she's like, so even when Martha was ever in London, getting photographed by everyone at every party, party, there was just, like, no door shut to Martha ever. And Martha's like, oh, so, you know, by the way, you know, I have no facial recognition. So I'm wandering around Mick Jagger's Christmas party. I'm not going to. I'm not even going to apologize for saying that. So I'm wandering around, sticking my hand out and saying, hi, I'm Martha. I'm Arthur. And this lovely old chap who, you know, with this mullet on, says, hello, I'm Paul. A nice said, oh, how do you know Mick? Are you in music? Yes, I am in music. So I'm trying to keep the conversation going because this guy's boring as hell. Hell. And I said, so, are you in production or you're a performer? And he says, I was in a band. And I say, well, Cool. Which one? He goes, he said, the Beatles. And I said, that's exactly what Hecate loves to eat. How fortunate.

[A]

Like, oh, my God, Martha. Well, to prove that I'm an enormous Beatles fan, I then sang Imagine at him.

[B]

Oh, you mean like, imagine you had electricity in this apartment? Yes, exactly. But then someone pointed out to me afterwards, it's not even a Beatles song. It's a John Legend song.

[A]

Yeah, that's after the Beatles broke up, Martha. Well, there's probably loads of people I haven't recognized that were famous. I once did recognize my own. Didn't recognize my own sister for about 10 minutes. She had cut her hair. It was different. She looked different. I don't know. I didn't recognize her. What do you want from me?

[B]

Did a lot of hard drugs. What do you want? So Margot's like, well, how are you feeling? She's like, well, I'm so happy here. My. My landlord's an actual angel. It's a dead person. I'm squatting in a dead person's old apartment.

[A]

Well, I mean, it's a really nice area. The area is nice. You're. You're right by the park, so, you know, you won't have to move far next time you're kicked out of your house. You can just go right to that bench. It's right there. I mean, it's a little run down, you know. I mean, you know, there's damp patches on the ceiling, as you can see. And it. It needs some love, but I'm gonna give it a lick of paint and a little bit of love and I'll just make it. We are a little cozier.

[B]

I am the eternal riches to rags and rags to riches story. I grew up in enormous privilege, but then I was homeless. We see a picture of her and her, she was like, bleach blonde with a mohawk. And she was like. And she goes, well, then I was discovered as a model by Vivian Westwood. And. And I think I was really lucky that Vivian Westwood saw me because she's like an iconic British designer. I mean, I didn't know who the hell she was. I was like, who are you again? She goes, I'm Vivian Westwood.

[A]

Really?

[B]

She goes, yes. Remember, we've met last week. And I said, come into my office for modeling again. I said, I'm not aware. I don't really recognize you. You're a total stranger to me. Anyway, she gave me a job, and without Vivienne, there's no punk, there's no sex pisses, there's nothing I Got headhunted.

[A]

I had entered to model. You know, it sort of brought me back into society I'd grown up in. And I'm going to get rich again. You watch.

[B]

Someday. Me and Hecate taking Britain by storm.

[A]

So Margo's, like, barely holding on this one. So Margot's like, well, do you think you'll be happy here for a little while? I mean, that's good. Well, I hope I'm going to be here for a little while. I got married. Married. You know, it didn't transpire to be a very happy marriage. And eventually I left with nothing. And then up again. I went off and did the same thing with a different man. And I'm determined not to do that again.

[B]

And also, like, one has to imagine there's some sort of severed tie with her family, because if she grew up in immense privilege, but they're not giving her any money, then there's definitely gonna be a backstory we're gonna find out about. She's like, well, I just tried to burn down the country. That's it. So Martha's saying, can you go? Because Margot, go, go. Fly over to go. Go sit on her shoulder. Go, go, go. So this is where the bird is on Margot's shoulder. And she is so incredibly uncomfortable and unhappy. And she's like, let me go. I want to leave.

[A]

So funny. So then we go to Margot again, but now she's shopping for houses. And we go into this crazy house. It's $6,000 a night. Okay, that's crazy. And she meets this gay who hates her. And we kind of find out why everybody thinks she's the worst as. As we go on. So she's like, yeah, the luxury in the city, it's out of control. I'm an actress. My entire career, I've worked in London. Like, never in America. Oh, gross. America, right? American actors. And when I tried to work in la, no one knew me. People were like, oh, you're just starting your career at 40. Oh, good for you. I'm like, hello. Pretty big. I'm pretty big.

[B]

Yeah. So she. It gets turned around, this. This house, really. You walk in and there's, like, a bridge. And over, like, the rest of the house, which is down below, is wild. And Margo's like, yeah, it all started with this. It's called Nine Songs. It was, like, a tiny independent film, and then it went to Cannes. And then, like, Nine Songs was billed as the most sexually explicit mainstream film in all of British history. Yeah, they showed a collarbone and the Brits Just lost their mind.

[A]

Actually, we see a headline, we see a headline that says, actress who made co star ejaculate on camera in real sex scene. Proud of controversial film.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like I never heard of this movie, but, like, obviously it was a big deal because anytime there's, anytime one of these movies comes along because it happens once in a while, it's like there was real sex. Everyone gets into a tizzy. So she's like, people were like, you're a whore, you're a porn star. And I was like, what? I'm an actress. So.

[A]

Yeah. And Kimmy's like, well, if you're an actress, you act. And if you're in a film when you're virtually having sex, you're a porn star. That's just how it works.

[B]

Emma's like, he was quite controversial, I've heard. Scandalous. I might watch it. So Margot goes on and says, like, you know, one fear I have about being back here is that I just have to relearn this city without, like, late night parties, right? Because I used to love to party in London and. And I got a lot of jobs from that and I made a lot of friends from that. But, like, now I'm married with a daughter who's a toddler, and then I've got two stepsons, and she's basically like, I'm a mom now and I have to do the mom thing. I'm like, excuse me, go to. Go to Real Housewives of London. Clearly, Lazer London is for like the women who are just like, fuck it, party time in London.

[A]

Yeah. And she's like, I mean, London's really changed and now I'm different. So I really need this to work. I need my career back. I need more. It's like, oh, I love that this show's starting out with such darkness, you know? And she's talking to the realtor and he's like, oh, you know, this is, this is a good neighborhood. You know, like, there's still sort of a single vibe here. And she goes, oh, you mean like an open marriage type thing? And he just like turns red and looks down like, no, I'm in those pubs.

[B]

So now we go to Kimmy's house. She's like, cooking a whole bunch of clams in a pot. So I was like, I love this woman. I love that she's just casually cooking a bunch of clams and her kids come home with because she. Their. Her husband or her ex brings the kids back. And she has two twins, Amadeus and Mimi. Hilarious. And her. And her husband is Stuart. And she's like, well, you know, Stuart is the father of my twins, and I was married to him for 23 years. And I've got a little girl named Mimi, and I have a son called Amadeus. They're amazing, and they're nine now. And Amadeus is incredibly gregarious. I think he might be. He might be straight. And I'm really disappointed. I'm like, no. But Anyway, he turns 10 next year, which means he's gonna have his first martini.

[A]

I went to dinner the other night, and I looked at the check, and I said, your name is Rue. Because as a kid, my name was Root. Like my nickname was really? And he said, yeah, my name is Kangaroo Amadeus. My parents were Kangaroo.

[B]

Am Kangaroo. Like, Amadeus. Okay, I kind of get that.

[A]

You know, his legal name is Kangaroo Amadeus. And I forgot his last. Like, Leavenworth or something. I forgot his last name.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

How cute is that? That's so Austin.

[B]

That is amazing. Kangaroo Amadeus. Maybe. Is his last name Deerheart? Yes, because I just. Well, because I just searched in Kangaroo Amadeus.

[A]

Oh, my God. I was like, you've heard of him? Yes. Kangaroo Amadeus de Earhart. What does he do? I didn't look him up. He was very nice.

[B]

I don't know what he does. He just has. He has a bunch of nice photos up on Instagram. He. Yeah.

[A]

Wow. I just thought that was the most that is a name Austin name I've ever heard. Oh, yeah, he's so cute. Look at him. And his name is. Yeah, I guess we shouldn't be shouting out his whole name on the Internet. But anyway, sorry, Rue, go follow him. Yeah, I just thought it was so cute. And I was. We were cracking up that that was his name. Cause it's so Austin. And then I turn on the TV and she's like, my son Amadeus. I was like, oh, really? Well, I know a Kangaroo Amadeus.

[B]

Sorry, you're so boring.

[A]

Regular Amadeus. So anyway, we see Kimmy with her kids. Her daughter is on the spectrum. And her husband and son and her. It's just a family of laughter pretty much. But Kimmy is demeanor does change a lot with her family. You know, she does have to put on kind of the mom act, I guess. And then there is a darkness here with her and her husband too. She's like, well, you know, I don't know. I was married to Stuart and it was fine, but then we just realized, oh, God. I mean, we just knew each other for three weeks, really. And then we were married, and I Don't know. We had a huge wedding at Highclere Castle, and that was fabulous, but. Oh, God. Then, I don't know, we were estranged, and we wanted to have a child, and we figured, might as well do it anyway with each other, so. So we did that. And I don't know, it just gets so much sadder when she's on her own.

[B]

It's like, let's have a child. But then two came out by accident, and then they were separated, and then. And then she's like, had them for four years, and, like, you know, so. But what's. But by the way, these kids are so cute. Obviously, they just came from school, so they're in their school uniforms, but they're like. Like, the. Like, Amadeus is in, like, a little blazer, you know? And then a little bit later on in the scene, he's, like, pouring wine. He's just so adorable. And so they're all sitting there, and they're like. They're having, like, a happy family scene because she and Stuart are, like, very friendly, and he's very jokey, you know? But you can tell that there's definitely, like. Because she keeps on mentioning that there was, like, tension between them, but they all. They appear on camera like, everything's great. So there's definitely more to the story than this. And we see Timmy's like, well, I taught these children really well when I was alone with them during lockdown, how to pour wine. It's a skill. We see Amadeus pours the wine for his parents, and he, like, does the twists that way, like, nothing drips. And Stuart's like, oh, hey, I even trust the bottle. That's amazing.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, it is a vital skill, darling. That's what I'm saying. I mean, this is lockdown. That's when I taught them this.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know, the pandemic did bring good things. Service and children. So that's good. And he puts the cork for the little cork back. So then we go to Dara's house. Oh, this is Dara. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. So we go over to her, and she's like, oh, my God. Like, I need, like, decking for this property, and this just isn't good enough. Back to the drawing board. This is Dara.

[B]

I'm an architect. I started a company when I was around 29. University of Florida. Madam Science. Stop it. Harvard. Harvard. Anyway, I have a team that's global. I work with collaborators and developers and funds, and I just need a Everything to be a little bit More serious because I work in a man's world. And we see, like, she's like, get my nails. Nail salon appointment rescheduled. Man's world. I basically never turn off. I find it hard to holiday because I'm thinking about, like, work pretty much all the time.

[A]

Oh, my God, I miss my son. His name is Wolfie, but he's at camp now in the south of France, and he has a lovely stepmother now, and her name is Beatrice York. And then we see this lady and says, her Royal Highness, Princess Beatrice. And you always hear those horror stories about how your ex's new partner is not getting along, but, you know, she's so kind. And they put up a headline that says, eduardo Mapelli, Mozzi's ex wife, realize, reveals what it's like co parenting with Princess Beatrice.

[B]

And basically, Dara has said to the press, why would they want to break up this family? Father of fiance ditched by Princess Beatrice's new lover. Claims the role may have been instrumental in their split. Basically, she's like, oh, my God, I love Princess Beatrice. But, like, all the press is like, she ruined our family.

[A]

And I'm so lucky to have that sort of support and kindness from a princess. Princess Beatrice hates this. This is Dara. So now Micah comes over, and they're like, oh, my God, we're, like, wearing the same slot. Like, we're wearing black pants and a white. No, white pants and a black top. Like, we're the same. I mean, except that your pants aren't really as nice as mine. Okay. Hi, Micah.

[B]

Well, bestie. Or should I say bunny? Remember bunny? Hey, by the way, I've been trying to radio you with the. With a. The. The. The walkie talkies. I am not getting anything back. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Anyway, so I'm really excited about your. Have a flashback. This is Dara planning a dinner, And Dara is FaceTiming with Mark, and she's gonna. She's saying how she has to go to Tuscany, but she's also gonna host a dinner for everyone.

[A]

He goes, oh, Tuscany? Where in Tuscany? She's like, I don't really know because, like, my assistant's doing it all. So I'm like, I don't know. He's like, you don't know which part of Tuscany you're venturing into? Oh, my God. What a faux pa. So we cut back to present, and Micah's like, what's the dress code for your dinner? I need to know. Like, what kind of manners are we going with that night? Is it cocktailish? Because yeah, they just dress fancy. So now we see Martha going to a restaurant and she's meeting Missy and who else does she meet? I guess Lottie comes.

[B]

Oh, lobby comes. Okay. So they sit at a bar and Martha's like, oh, my darling, how's it settling into London?

[A]

No, you're right. It's just the two of them. I'm sorry.

[B]

Because I think. Yeah, no, I think we have multiple scenes that wind up going back and forth in this area because it's a gossip scene. So Missy's like. She's like, yeah, it's good. I'm so happy to be back. I love my new house. I love my area. My daughter's school is very near. They're so upset. When I have nip slip at drop off, everything feels easy. My relationship was so up and down, up and down, up and down. And honestly, I just like an over complicated life. And like, the more I'm like making things easy, I feel like it's really working for me. It makes me happier person.

[A]

And Martha's like, oh, yeah, good for being happy. High fives. I'm happy as well. I'm happy. So we find out a bit. Missy, she says that her life is in episodes. She's gone from this glamorous supermodel in Milan, signing for Victoria's Secret, deciding to keep her baby with the football player boyfriend. But then she married. But then who? She left. And then we see a headline that says, footballer Anders Lindengard marries modeled Missy in a beach wedding. And then another headline that says, missy Bickery speaks out about marriage. Split from ex Manchester United goalie Anders Lindigaard. And then. Oh, sorry. Then she met the fun guy and had all the red flags. I totally ignored, you know, TOWIE's Jake hall steps out in style with his

[B]

stunning girlfriend Missy, who I then decided to have a child with within eight months. I've lived like eight. I've lived like five lives. Martha's like, darling, I'm so bored. I'm going to have to start drinking my Magpies martini soon. She's like, okay, well, okay. Mark's lunch. That was fun. Wasn't that fun? It was a really good time. But what about the rumor? Oh, that's Darius and Madam. Yeah, I don't even understand that at first. And now we see unseen footage from the party, which is funny because they could have just shown it to us as the same episode. And Missy is like, I thought a madam is like someone High maintenance, like being a diva. And lattice, like. Well, you could say that. But it's like the head of a brothel, or as they call it in America, everywhere.

[A]

Well, then we go back to Martha, and Martha's like, no, Martha's like, well, that's my fault. I mean, it was me that spread it. Whoops. Oh, you spread the rumor. Well, I spread. I heard the rumor and then I spread the rumor further.

[B]

But it's not a great rumor, though. It's not a great rumor. Not being a madam, that's like soul destroying. I thought it made her so much more interesting.

[A]

I thought I was doing her a favor. Oh, no. I hope I haven't offended anybody.

[B]

This is like, she's going to be upset by that.

[A]

So now we go back to Micah and Darren, and Micah's like, of course you missed Mark's parties. And I really miss, missed you. Because you're my partner, okay? You're my partner in crime. And there's like. I mean, everyone was so wonderful. That's nice. Like, such fun vibes. Okay, but then I have to talk to you about a part in person. Okay, so we're in the space Martha, and she. She brings this friend, Margot, and then Margo starts telling the party that she hears that you're a madam, and she's like, okay, well, my house. Well, that's ridiculous and absurd, right? She goes, you know what? Like, that bothered. You know how much that bothers me? Like, none. Like, nine.

[B]

It's like, did she just hear what I said about her? I just told her people saying that she's a madam, and she's like, not even reacting and she's like. Because it's like, not even true. Like, am I really supposed to be bothered by a rumor that someone who buys grape scissors for other people brings to me?

[A]

I don't know, but I went into, like, full protective mode, you know? Of course I did. You know, Like, I felt like it was happening to me because we're like, basically the same person. Whatever. This is, like, so beneath me. Like, I do not even care.

[B]

You know what, though? I have, like, real gossip for you, though. What? When I was at the wedding, one of our best friends was hurt that you're friends with her ex's new wife. Can you believe it? And you were talking about how great she was in a close friend group, and I. I think that, like, hurt her feelings.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Such good goss. People are mad at you.

[A]

Okay, well, I'm telling her something negative about her that I heard. And then I'm Gaslit into thinking now there's something wrong with me. And I'm like, what is going on? I love this girl Dara. She's so perfect. She's so perfect for these shows. Oh, my God. And she's like, oh, really? You heard that about me? I heard that everybody hates you. So. Well, you asked me for real gossip. So, like, this was real. She goes, no, I didn't ask you for real gossip. You told me you had real gossip. And we see one minute earlier.

[B]

This is Dara.

[A]

I have got some real gossip for you. That was Dara.

[B]

So Micah's like, okay, amazing. Well, I think I'm gonna head out. Dar's like, yeah. It's like, nothing. It's fine.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is my Harvard side speaking. So now we go back to about it.

[A]

I'm sure it's nothing. I mean, it just happened in Tuscany.

[B]

So now back to Martha and Missy at the bar. And Missy's like, what? Dara? She's like, so nice. Like, I like her. Okay, but you acknowledge that she's boring, and she needed a rumor like this to spice her up, right? She's like, but there's like another side to her that's not honest. She's shady about Micah. Oh, how do you mean shady? Tell me everything.

[A]

Well, it's like we went to lunch with Lottie. So meet Lottie, Dara. And then when we left, she was like, oh, my God. I met her the other day. Day. And she was like, so tacky. Bringing these pink walkie talkies to my house. And Dara said, oh, she's embarrassing. So low class tacky. She's faking her lifestyle, her whole career. Like, the etiquette was just like a myth, you know? Like she just came up with that. Like, that's how she feels. But she said it after Lottie left, just to me, it was like a different tone, you know?

[B]

Oh, yes. Like a whole different personality face. Right? Is that's what you're trying to say?

[A]

A whole different personality face.

[B]

Totally different.

[A]

You know, negative stuff. So that's her friend of 20 years. And then at the party, Micah was totally having a back.

[B]

Oh, also, I love the sound of a pink walkie talkie. By the way, that sounds like for walkie talkie. Super cool. Oh, do you think a magpie would know how to use a walkie talkie? That could make life so much easier around home.

[A]

No, it's the tackiness. But I like tacky. It's cool.

[B]

Martha's completely not moved by this. Like, her takeaway Is like, oh my God, they make walkie talkies and things.

[A]

Think walkie talkies?

[B]

Yeah, she just wants walkie talkie. Who's Martha going to talk to on. On a walkie talkie? She's going to have one down by the bartender. All right, I'm coming down to just get my martini ready for me. Thank you very much.

[A]

It's just. Just the bird pecking the walkie talkie with its nose, its beak. So she's like, well, I'm nervous about this dinner. Me too. So I spoke to Mark and I spoke to Lottie and both of them said, do not get involved. Like start of it. But I don't know if I can do this. Well, I'd listen to them over me, darling. I mean, my life's a mess, isn't it? I wouldn't take life advice from me.

[B]

52 hours later. This is Dara in 52 hours and we see this dinner that's gonna happen, I guess in the second episode. I'm so excited. Missy is saying like, you put me in a really shitty position. You know, we were talking about your friend and she was like, oh, she's a bit cringe. And Dar's like, I don't think that conversation is necessary. And I love you, you know I do. And Mark's like,

[A]

yeah, dun dun dun. The drama coming up in episode two, which we will cover on Monday.

[B]

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